🧙┃mage

[harsh abyss]

It's 7% increased total, but it does give you 7% to each element. The way flat damage works for multi-element spells is that the damage is divided among the elements. So tri-element nova with +60 flat damage will be 20 fire, 20 lightning, 20 cold. Which means 7% to each element is 7% to each of those.

[tired gust]

Ah thanks, didn't know that

so if I have something like +20 spell lightning damage, does that mean I'm only getting 6.67 lightning damage from it with a tri-element nova?

[harsh abyss]

No, anything that specifies a specific damage type gives that damage type

[tired gust]

how about +20% spell lightning damage instead of flat damage?

[harsh abyss]

So +20 lightning is +20 lightning.

It gets a little complex, but it does what it says. If you have 60 total damage and +20% lightning damage, you'll end up with 24 lightning, 20 cold, 20 fire.

[tired gust]

ah okay, so if I'm doing exclusively lightning novas, and I have +2000% spell lightning damage, then making them tri-element instead would be a bad idea?

[harsh abyss]

Exactly. Because then you'd be doing +2000% of the 20 base instead of the 60 base (in this example)

[tired gust]

that's kind of a bummer. Hopefully I can still scale this decently while avoiding element specific increased damage affixes

[harsh abyss]

Your best bet would be to combo it with the Vilatria set, because that adds a lot of flat lightning damage specifically. But in general, you'll be better off just scaling elemental damage or generic spell damage than specifically going for lightning damage with tri-element nova

[tired gust]

I don't actually use lightning nova, was just using it as an example, though I am using the Vilatria staff just for the decent base damage it gives at my level (currently 61).

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, Vilatria is great while leveling even if you aren't specifically building around it

[tired gust]

I'm low-key excited about getting to level 70 and upgrading to Aergon's refuge, lol

[hushed sigil]

I might've got sidetracked trying to make endurance threshold useable on a mage lol https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg8Dndxo

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (27) / Spellblade (55) / Runemaster (11)

General:

▸ Health: 1,172, Regen: 41.1/s
▸ Mana: 516.71, Regen: 14.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 128%, Regen: 160/s
▸ Attributes: 37 Str / 8 Dex / 64 Int / 78 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 139% / 87% / 89% / 73% / 73% / 76% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 667
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,370)

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Enchant Weapon / Shatter Strike / Lightning Blast / Frost Claw

[harsh abyss]

Trade last bear chest for Wall of Nothing to turn endurance threshold into ward threshold maybe?

OR go all in on strength stacking and swap dragorath's for cleaver solution

[hushed sigil]

Nah I'm specifically avoiding abberoth items so I don't grind it (ignore vaion's chariot), I'd use cleaver but im using palarus to stack attunment/INT instead, with STR being a tertiary.

Like at the point I'd be farming it I'd just be using LP0 seed/wall/worlds

[harsh abyss]

Why are you stacking so much attunement?

[hushed sigil]

Was using mana for EHP via hp damage dealt to mana, was looking for something that stacks STR and saw palarus, so now I'm using attunement instead of it.

[sinful stag]

I use endurance threshold on my hydra rune master as a strong anti-one shot defense layer that synergizes well with high dodge

It was tanky enough to do 10k corruption echoes

But I surmise that it wouldn’t be nearly as good without being able to rely on dodge

[hushed sigil]

yeah im relying on mana shield and high armor instead rn, I kind of want to get hit for more aegis and lightning blast procs

my idea rn is to balance out my mana with shatter and mana strike so I have ET from erased mage relic to cap Default HP via ET

while using palarus and last bear set to have a reason to stack ATN/STR for offense

[glossy quarry]

Anyone cooked a Chlotho needle spellblade?

25% range on firebrand

with already 75 melee crit multi weapon with melee damage, you only need attack speed

and spellblade already covers it

or even shatter strike with it

[bleak surge]

Anyone know why they changed the way the T-Pose mage looked channeling for the lame ass look it has now? Was that ever addressed by devs?

[harsh abyss]

They just changed the look, didn't say why. Maybe they didn't like the T-pose animation

[stuck fable]

So ranged ms proccing FC proccing novas no longer a thing?

I mean yrun penance makes it a nice frostbite build with volatile ice

[sinful stag]

T pose def unintended, im surprised they shipped it out with a T pose as is

current animation still looks wacky

[harsh abyss]

Ranged MS still counts as melee

[stuck fable]

Noice pun intended

Now sorc or spellblade

[hushed sigil]

Well since I'm a spellblade now, spark charge is bad without enigma scaling right? I forgot if scaling from other stuff can work on spark charge. Like paladrus... Actually I literally have the setup ill answer my own question lol

[idle ember]

Is that possible that I'm under some very tricky bug or something? I've gotten 18 rings with no LP and the Remensis ruined them all as well

I got only 2 rings with LP on season 0 and that's all. 2 out of 22 over all

[radiant vessel]

Considering that 1 lp is 1 in 16 I'd say you're just unlucky

[idle ember]

Got you bro

[stuck fable]

Sadge that yrun penance didn't change the mana arc to cold... Guess the cold conversion node on mana strike doesn't change that too

[glad marten]

Not even that unlucky. Especially if these are the result of a 0 LP imprint. 0 successes in 18 attempts is like a 30% chance

[harsh abyss]

Its supposed to, but it may not change the visual. I havent tested it extensively.

[glossy quarry]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg84d0vo

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (70) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,728, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 105.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 130%, Regen: 90/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 32 Dex / 40 Int / 1 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 27% / 3% / 37% / 0% / 0% / 59% / 9%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 346
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (128)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (638)

Used skills:

Firebrand / Enchant Weapon / Flame Ward / Teleport / Mana Strike

[glossy quarry]

Any firebranders can help me?

I see that with firebrand you can melee with super comfort

also for leveling mage

is it still fire torch?

[harsh abyss]

Fire torch too stronk. It will always be leveling king.

[stuck fable]

Yah and that -4 mana to fire spells stonks

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, its super good.

[inner perch]

Hey guys, currently playing with my wife and we arrived at the empowered timelines and now she begins to struggle. Ive been looking for Builds on lastepochtools for her but the last ones for sorcerers are from last year. Is there any newer/updated builds for sorcerer to be used on higher corruption levels?

[topaz iron]

idk man try youtube if is there something

[glossy quarry]

Yes

For sorcerer, lighting blast with spark charges

Whatever you see, zap! Dead

[inner perch]

Sounds fun, we are not so familiar with the items required, is there an online source what to go for?

[sinful stag]

Dang focus hydra with full squishy gear can I’m almost sure do a sub 1 min uber aberroth

Permanent double cast op

[sly crater]

I swear I'm destined to never drop Diothaen's Nib

[sly crater]

Is she struggling in damage or survivability?

[inner perch]

Mostly the survivability, she usually has a lot of Ward but also gets oneshot quite often. I guess its also as she skilled a lot of passives more or less at random. I was hoping to find a proper guide for sorcerer but so far havent found anything

[sly crater]

Are her resistances capped? Resistances + wards should be enough to survive empowered

[sly crater]

Finally got it, CoF moment

[hushed sigil]

nah empowered champnions are kinda finnicky even at 100c.

specially pillar of skulls

update on my attempt at making an ET mage build. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGrmZDxQ it actually ended up p good, also im now broke.

Also I need one last skill that does a lot of damage. Also still trying to find passives to use

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (21) / Spellblade (51)

General:

▸ Health: 1,142, Regen: 55.8/s
▸ Mana: 383.51, Regen: 10.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 148%, Regen: 155/s
▸ Attributes: 86 Str / 13 Dex / 74 Int / 48 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 80% / 82% / 66% / 66% / 69% / 69%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 66%, Threshold: 829
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 81% (13,900)

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Enchant Weapon / Lightning Blast / Frost Claw

[glad marten]

Want my 3LP 😇

[hushed sigil]

man now I need to change back to runemaster because I figured out how to cap ET finally and also RI is a lot better than shatterstrike. But now I'm broke as hell lol

[distant flower]

To my fellow Hydrahedrons - When you snapshot your Frost Wall; do you know if Frey's Retreat +40% duration is also amplified?

I usually just use T7 Frost Wall Duration on helm + chest when snapshotting; but after trying with T7 Frost Wall Duration Helm + Chest + Frey's, I feel like my damage isn't really amplified?

[glossy quarry]

What do you mean snapshotting frost wall

It’s not a minion skill

[harsh abyss]

I think the "snapshotting" with frost wall only really works with channeling skills because as long as you start channling while you have a frost wall, the "have a frost wall" gets snapshotted for as long as you channel. Other than that you have to continually have the wall active

[distant flower]

Exactly, and flame rush is a channeled skill - So you throw down the frost wall for max duration, and last second you Flame Rush through it

And then after that, you keep Frost Wall active on the boss; but you're not allowed to touch the Frost Wall, or you'll lose the damage buff that was snapshotted

[harsh abyss]

Are you chilling the enemies?

[distant flower]

It's this buff that is snapshotted

It buffs the damage of Runic Invocation - But because I'm RI'ing via Flame Rush, I never actually consume the buff

It gets replaced if I touch a new wall though

[harsh abyss]

seems jank

[distant flower]

But yes, I keep it up 100% of the time on bosses, and I spam-cast it to funnel into Copied Scrolls

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, IDK honestly, I've never experimented with it. You shouldn't need it to make hydra work though

[distant flower]

At some point it becomes a necessity

I'm oneshotting 2k corruption echoes in 3-player groups

[harsh abyss]

Sounds like you're well beyond anything being "necessary", heh

[sinful stag]

Test it with a different invocation

That has a single damage instance

[placid sandal]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApNjwGeB
Hi everyone!
Created this one from scratch with only some ideas borrowed from other builds.

Any ideas on where to improve?
Curently running C300
What Corruption is considered enough for build to be considered viable?

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (25) / Sorcerer (15) / Runemaster (69)

General:

▸ Health: 1,684, Regen: 19.44/s
▸ Mana: 421.49, Regen: 12.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 200%, Regen: 40/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 1 Dex / 89 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 76% / 127% / 76% / 84% / 78% / 56%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 337
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (768)

Used skills:

Elemental Nova / Flame Rush / Runic Invocation / Flame Ward / Static Orb

[nimble shoal]

300c is viable, that covers all game content except uber

[sinful stag]

i see why freys retreat doesnt work

when you cast it

it procs aspirants arrival immediately

so its impossible to snapshot with it

[placid sandal]

Any ideas about improving the build are welcome!
I am currently looking into changing the mirror+catalyst to Aergon's Refuge to make myself completley unkillable

[bitter lava]

I know I neec crit avoidance to survive emp monos, but what is the minimum?

Currently have 140% Crit Avoid and it's def not enough

[nimble shoal]

You get no benefit from going over 100% crit avoid or 100% reduced extra damage from crits (you want one or the other)

Having enough ward (or health and capped endurance) is far higher priority

Crit mitigation is pretty low on the list unless you are HC

[bitter lava]

Caster doing ward. So what ward shards am I looking for? Decay, threshold, etc?

I'm dying a lot to what I assume is crits given it's always 700-2K damage

[nimble shoal]

The death message will tell you if it was a crit (and won't mention crit at all if it wasn't), so you don't need to assume.

[nimble shoal]

You want ward generation from skills/passives/gear and ward retention (mostly from passives and int). Decay threshold is nice to have as well, but not the primary goal

Probably about 3-4k ward is the lower end of what you want to have going into empowered

And you of course also want decent resists (60-75%, when you have cleanse you can mostly ignore poison res), decent armor of you can get it (~4k), and the crit mitigation which you already have. Probably other things depending on build, like usually you'll want that 8pt RM node that gives damage reduction

[bitter lava]

I know my ward needs to get higher. My armor is trash atm. Resistances have been capped, which is why I'm so confused why I'm taking so much

Is it really just lack of ward?

[sinful stag]

where would a 10k corruption caapble build cap out at in arena i wonder

[median charm]

10k corruption is about arena wave 2500: https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/arena-scaling

[sinful stag]

thanks, didnt realize there was a tool for that

wow the scaling on arena ramps pretty hard

[median charm]

yeah, there's also density scaling thought I'm not not sure how exactly it works with different enemy types. you can see it with debug param: https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/arena-scaling?debug=1

[sinful stag]

hydra on arenas is like tower defense lol, put down wall, perma stun chokepoint, hydra kills

im on wave 611 and it feels very comfy

[sinful stag]

fk

i looked away for a second and died on wave 998

rip

i only have 1 LPs on most of my important gear lol, i think hydra can push arena really hard

once i slam the 2-3LPs ive been hoarding i think i can get to 1000+ fairly easily, missing like 40k EHP, 1-2k spell damage, and 70% multi dmg

[sinful stag]

Dang I am only 100 waves behind 1st place runemaster and he has giga multi T7 gear

[hushed sigil]

Update on my current ET HP Mage run, I finally got a couple mill selling hearts. I am also now broke again because I realized relying on champion imprints for three pieces of gear is dumb. I am also back to being an RM. I'm gonna continue getting money then going back to doing doing empowereds to see if it doesn't get melted and at what corr.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZGvM88o

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (32) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (44)

General:

▸ Health: 1,170, Regen: 33.4/s
▸ Mana: 883.01, Regen: 13.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 176%, Regen: 141/s
▸ Attributes: 67 Str / 1 Dex / 89 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 77% / 79% / 66% / 66% / 67% / 67%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 78%, Threshold: 879
▸ Armor Mitigation: 78% (10,179)

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Lightning Blast / Enchant Weapon / Runic Invocation / Frost Claw

[marsh ether]

hello all, noob question here.. playing Spellblade and one of the reccomended items for I guess meta build is use of Diothaens Bloody Nib (relic) which scales damage very well, however puts a substantial amount of bleeds stacks (35+) on me to where its rapidly killing my ward and getting me 1 shot. is there some as aspect of this build im missing?

this is the build im using: https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shatter-strike-spellblade-guide.. I dont have some of the more expensive items, but I have majority

[glossy quarry]

That means ur ward gen isn't enough to sustain those amount of bleed stacks

what you can do is get a cleanse ailment somewhere

and when you get to around a level of bleed stacks, cleanse ailment

In elemental weapon: cleanse the elements can help

[marsh ether]

ahh I see and its only a 1 point commitment.. good idea. i will give that a shot.. thanks for the responses 🙂

[glossy quarry]

Don’t worry, it used to happen to me too

[glossy quarry]

When using mantle of the ox with mirror images from teleport, do they die too quickly or can they tank a cooldown round of teleport?

[hybrid schooner]

uhh someone was using them in that way a while back durring this season. i dont remember what build it was

[glossy quarry]

Bina

for his runemaster

I am gonna do a Mishka build

glacier sorc

[spare glen]

have fun, you need 1600+ mana for comfort

before that u can disable big explosion or play 1sec cd orb

[sinful stag]

died at 950 wave on 2nd try

arena is so exhausting to do

💀

[placid sandal]

how was it meant to progress a build when getting a specific 2LP is already a pain in the ass and getting an Exalt with 2 needed T6+ is even less likely...

[merry veldt]

I personally couldn't take a build guide serious, if it already comes with double exalted slams.
Yeah, I try to slam those too ofc. But if a build does not work with 7/5/5/5 - it is not a build to me

[placid sandal]

I've seen a paladin yesterday in action... he was just melting stuff on C1000 with 2lp 7-5 slams...
And i can't even remotely find a propper 2lp stick (got 2 with worst rolls possible) nor an exalt worth slamming onto 2 lp (with at least 7-x right affixes so i don't spend all FP on trying to remove minion bullshit)...

[glossy quarry]

Before I forget since I saw something cool with ice icicles back in 2023

has anyone tried ever them again

the spell part of shatter strike

since like volcanic orb, I realized the projectiles kinda shotgun

[glossy quarry]

The damage to mana is so nice

Helps a lot with survivability

I forgot I need my aberroth helm too

So far mage has the third Uber viable builds right?

LB spark charges, frost claw spark charges, glacier orb, t-posing mage

[rain cliff]

Been trying for like 5 days with LB mage, best attempt so far was down to 36%

[sinful stag]

mage has a 1 minute clear with hydra, probably one of the fastest builds in the game that isnt flat out one shotting it

the guyu who did that 1 min kill also had good but not exceptional gear, with even more of a dmg focused setup i figure a sub 1 min kill is not only possible but comfortable

overall mage seems pretty balanced among its masteries, or maybe its just underpowered relative to the strong ones

[glossy quarry]

Frost wall snapshotted hydra

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[placid sandal]

Why would they design an item that turns volcanic orb into void dmg without any other source of void dmg on mage..?

[sinful stag]

without snapshot both mage and acolyte has no meta competitive builds anymore

RIP

Does brand of deception use the snapshot at all? Forgot

[placid sandal]

why should it? It's a dot an you most probably won't be switching gear every 3 secs anyway

[glossy quarry]

There are many builds that can prove you wrong

It’s just that most people tend to go the big meta meta

And forget everything else

[sinful stag]

yeah i mean like big meta, being able to speed farm uberroth, get to 3-5k corr, etc, i feel like 99% of all builds can do uberroth or 1k corruption as a baseline, the variance there is efficiency and level of gear needed. even the worst potato skills unless they are truly atrocious and have no support can probably do all content in the game including uber, it just may take 15 min to kill him

[sinful stag]

i remember seeing a frozensentinel video talking about snapshotting using the braand of deception build

but now that im remembering better i think it was about julras rings

also i think non snapshotted hydra was one of the earliest uber aberroth kills out there too, i havent played other mage builds too much but i wonder how non snapshot hydra competes with them. probably not as well but still viable

[sharp mantle]

#💀┃acolyte message

idk if anyone actually plays this because zombie rng clunk is a bit awkward but this is definitely meta power level

[sinful stag]

yeah seeing mishka builds was what got me into actually reading skill abilities and trying to figure out how to make things work since she cooked up so many interesting builds

i wanted to try gearing that build but i got sucked into mage stuff

that build looks absurdly tanky with really high damage

it also looks like it would fry my PC lol, LE runs terribly on my comp already

[glossy quarry]

1k corr doesn’t mean anything

[sharp mantle]

that one in particular is very tanky, very high damage on mediocre gear and the playstyle is practically a one button build plus transplant

[glossy quarry]

hc or Uber viable is what matters

[sinful stag]

yeah literally almost any build can do uber

[glossy quarry]

Plus at 500 corrup is hard cap for rarity

[sinful stag]

imo

it just takes longer

[sharp mantle]

14s boss dummy for that build I linked

3m uber, but could potentially do it in half the time with good RNG

[sinful stag]

the damage does seem to need some ramp on fixed locations which makes the echo clearing funky

[sharp mantle]

there's a correct order for things to happen in basically

[sinful stag]

i would also say basically any build can be HC viable too, just slot in tons of defensives and limit yourself to low corruption

[sharp mantle]

you want shades to spawn on top of enemies, then sacrifice to go off, but not too much that it takes all your mana so you can use dread shade to extend the infernal shades

[glossy quarry]

But the issue is that you don’t need to go to 1k corruption

Unless for bragging rights

[sharp mantle]

that one gets so much armor from dread shade that it counts as unusually tanky imo

[sinful stag]

wait rarity actually caps at 500?

i thought it was 1k this whole time

[glossy quarry]

Hard caps

[sinful stag]

dang idk why everyone was teelling me to do 1k

[glossy quarry]

They like to say “ohh ur build can’t do 1k corrup not viable”

[sinful stag]

the EHP must be off the charts, it has really high armor, tons of ward, and tons of life too

the downside is the clunky DPS rotation subjects it to more risk

but sheer stats wise its one of the tankiest builds ive seen

[sharp mantle]

at least the clunk is automated clunk

you really just have to press rip blood and summon zombies if you have the mana for it, maybe wraiths too

and dread shade for buffs I guess

[sinful stag]

yeah, lowkey might be the best arena build for acolyte?

[sharp mantle]

the profane veil zombies one probably, that build can clear more than one screen at a time

[sinful stag]

true

both have to compete with 30 min snapshot ritual abom, but theoretically they have better tools to survive and go further

if only arena could be tested easily offline, would be a good way to benchmark builds meant for it

[sharp mantle]

for how long in arena does abom plague from idols do meaningful damage?

[sinful stag]

seems like the DPS would not be an issue

or atleast not meaningfully so before the mobs do much damage they just annihilate you

[glossy quarry]

Is it possible to make Lightning blast sorc mana tank?

Or would you be killing your own dps by going mana

[sinful stag]

if its your primary defensive layer behind ward it does burn through a ton of mana

[glossy quarry]

Hmmm

Leveling glacier but my mana cooks

Might just level with spoon and enigma on the meanwhile

[sinful stag]

mana management is def hard with glacier in the leveling grind

atleast from what i remember when i briefly tried it in prior seasons

[glossy quarry]

Can you go sorc mana god with lightning blast?

The sorc passive doesn’t seem to benefit it too much 😦

But asking if anyone done it before

[hushed sigil]

I remember getting static to at least 40 mana before so if you're using static for more lb procs that could work

Yeah just use power surge

[hybrid schooner]

man borderlands 4 drops less than 3 weeks after next cycle starts. what an i gonna doooo

probably enough time to get through all the content, but idk if its enough to make a primo charactor up to my standards

[glossy quarry]

What are rings that I can use pre red rings

[sinful stag]

i found a tech thats probably mostly useless

volcanic orb animation can be canceled by casting it mid flame rush

only issue is strangely it makes the character drift, sliding forwards more than usual with a normal flame rush

[nimble shoal]

Gold rings cover some of the resists that will eventually get covered by RRs

[glossy quarry]

damn glacier is so fun

but damn my screen

😭

[sinful stag]

bricked my rarest 3 LP

[stuck fable]

manastrike spark charge still good?

[spare glen]

hydra is also vible

also focus snapshot currently best mage build for uber, heavily bugged too

[sinful stag]

Focus snapshot?

[glossy quarry]

I forgot the most important trying

Thing

I still don’t have my mana stuff in my sorc

I should be using mana strike

[glossy quarry]

What other main skills can I use apart from glacier for regular damage? My only issue with glacier is how big it is in the screen, I also don’t want to lower the third explosion too, and still have a reason to go mana tank

I also though of using frost claw with +mana nodes

[spare glen]

idk its either mana strike or glacier

[stuck fable]

FC proccing Nova?

[fossil zephyr]

Not bad

[glossy quarry]

Is lightning disintegrate a thing?

with the damage reduction nodes

[glossy quarry]

it looks good on paper

[glossy quarry]

More lightning damage per max mana on disintegrate: 8 to 1%

🥠

[fossil zephyr]

I think these items sucked all the luck cause I put the RR on a nemesis and i got garbage

😂

[glossy quarry]

https://youtu.be/mVEFwHm7JHU?feature=shared

[glad marten]

I'm playing a build that uses this and I'm enjoying it. Its not competitive with the top builds

[glossy quarry]

If you get like a lot of mana u can go mana to health

It should be super fun still

[glossy quarry]

https://youtu.be/XlJomOHBVWI?feature=shared

Surge

Damage

Wow

[glad marten]

Yep, that's what I do

[sinful stag]

hell yea

i beat the arena record for mage

time to see how much farther i can go

[glossy quarry]

Congrats

You better push more before the other guy comes up too

[sinful stag]

i think the other guy iss thankfully done with the season, and his gear is so giga juiced he has no more room for upgrades

[sinful stag]

dangit

i died at 1300

a tiny minion stunned me and one lightning orb did 10,000 damage

im sure i couldve gone to 1500+, the hydra build does so much damage it can melt things at 10k corr, the only issue is my gear is still single/double LPs with only one double T7

i feel like a theoretical perfectly built hydra can go 2000+ if the corruption scaling on tunklabs is right

[glossy quarry]

[sinful stag]

but i think i too am done with the season now that i managed to nab 1st for mage

its honestly pretty insane how far i could push with not very good gear

this may flat out be the best mage build, albeit depending on the frostwall bug to do real damage

[formal sun]

What build is that my dude I don't know all the icons

[sinful stag]

It’s hydrahedron

[unreal umbra]

can you take hits at 1300 or is just glass cannon at that point?

[sinful stag]

if im channeling focus i can take a hit or two but if not its instant death

mostly relies on the 70% dodge

[fossil zephyr]

Which would you take as CoF?

[harsh abyss]

XP for sure

[ruby pulsar]

still working on getting another sword but we gettin there

[safe spoke]

hello. i am using actionrpg mana guide sorcerorbuild. he has meteor with harbinger of stars on it and a weapon that converts its damage to lightning. problem is, with only a 7% chance to cast, it doesnt come to party often enough in my playthrough. I have 25% crit chance is it that or is there maybe another ability that could synergize well with this build or proc off focus/lightning blast?

[placid sandal]

Hi everyone! I found out that using static orb aegis with heart of uhkeiros makes the aegis almost instantly fall off. Is it in fact not that much usefull when receiving big hits (like on bosses) and it's at least safe not to use idols with ligtning aegis as a condition?

[placid sandal]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg8e0D9o
What you think? Gonna try it on a twink

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (77)

General:

▸ Health: 1,130, Regen: 23.6/s
▸ Mana: 315.68, Regen: 12.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 160%, Regen: 72/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 15 Dex / 43 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 30% / 64% / 24% / 56% / 73% / 29%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 226
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (71)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (578)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Volcanic Orb / Teleport / Focus

[sharp mantle]

someone mentioned snapshotting focus as a very strong build a few days ago.

does anyone know what they mean? im not aware of anything you can do with focus that could be called snapshotting

[radiant vessel]

You just need to get your CRIT up, 100% CRIT is pretty much a must and getting a belt with 8 or 9% is pretty important too

Lightningblast itself has quite a lot of base CRIT from the storm razor node

[sinful stag]

maybe brand of deception with julras rings?

if i recall someone could get a 1 min uberroth with that

[past pendant]

does Enchant Weapon convert ALL melee damage to elemental for 5s?

[harsh abyss]

No? Anything that adds flat physical damage or whatever will still add damage of that type. But mages are pretty much all elemental melee damage anyway, you kinda have to try to get non-elemental damage

[past pendant]

but simply using an attack that's tagged Melee and Cold converts all damage to cold right?

[harsh abyss]

Any adaptive damage will be used as cold, but any damage that specifies a type won't be altered. So if your melee weapon has an implicit that is +45 damage and then and explicit mods that are +30 cold and +50 fire, the base damage of the attack will be 75 cold and 50 fire.

The node in Enchant Weapon that gives you cold and lightning damage based on the physical damage is basically a dead node. A long time ago, all implicits on weapons were physical damage and that node just hasn't been updated since they changed it to be adaptive.

Any damage that doesn't specify it's type is adaptive. So anything that is +X melee damage will get converted, but other than that, conversions only happen when specified (and almost always it only converts the base damage of the skill, which will also affect the adaptive damage). Conversions that affect damage that specifies a type are VERY rare

[past pendant]

Skills that add something like +1 melee dmg: don't they fall off greatly in the late game, when my weapon has 1 fentanyllion base damage?

[past pendant]

"Cold penetration with Frostbite":
is it against frostbitten enemies?
or is it with attacks that apply Frostbite? if so, is it also the same chance as Frostbite application?

[nimble shoal]

Weapon base damage never really gets super high, so you often still want flat damage where you can get it. It does vary by build, though

[nimble shoal]

It makes the frostbites themselves penetrate cold res, so they deal more damage

[past pendant]

is this affix considered any good?

[nimble shoal]

It is useful if you're running a frostbite build, been a while since I've done that so I don't remember if it's BiS or anything

[hushed sigil]

I somehow turned into a focus lb spark charge build with some melee on it. Really wish mana strike could go into lightning blast on it's own without drag's claw, fc really is just a gigantic specialization slot tax to make everything work

[past pendant]

Enchant Weapon's Cleansed by Elements: is the +50% Mana Cost nullified by Efficacy, or will it require half of base mana cost?

[past pendant]

Is the Frostbrand node bugged? The reported DPS on Shatter Strike did not go up.

[nimble shoal]

Flat mana cost modifiers are applied before %, so if you reduce the cost to 0 then the +50% mana cost does nothing to it

[nimble shoal]

I don't think so. You can always test on the dummies, though.

[past pendant]

Does Chains of Uleros (potions grant Ward instead of health) interact positively with Health gained from Potions affixes?

[rugged shell]

Yes

By all logic

[past pendant]

Hard to tell since it starts draining quickly

[past pendant]

It would also be logical that:
Chains of Uleros sets Health restored by potion to 0; hence any multipliers to it would just result in zero

im too lazy to record and scroll footage frame by frame

[rain cliff]

this works right? 🤔

[past pendant]

Why can't a lot of bosses be frozen with Snap Freeze, all of a sudden ?!

is it Dodge?

is this issue entirely resolved by taking the on-hit node?

[nimble shoal]

Did you convert it to lightning? That disables the freeze.
Otherwise, I think only Heorot and Lagon are really immune to freeze (as far as bosses go), though some bosses don't get penalized much from being frozen.

You kinda just need to know when the freeze is useful for that particular boss, like to interrupt Gaspar's tri-beam for example.

[past pendant]

I did not convert it to lighing.

I should specify, i meant strong enemies (Champions), not bosses.

All of a sudden, in "Blood, Frost and Death" timeline, i stopped reliably freezing champs

and i noticed "Dodge!" pop up on one such occasion

Can champions be naturally dodgy? Was that a level Modifier?
Dodge negates Freeze because Freeze is not a DoT, correct? If yes, can i bypass Dodge by taking the snap freeze's Hit node?

[nimble shoal]

Dodge negates all on-hit effects, including freeze and DOT ailments that would be applied. I guess snap freeze can be dodged, which would mean it doesn't apply freeze when that happens. There's nothing you can do to make snap freeze undodgeable.

[past pendant]

Guide says otherwise

[nimble shoal]

Echo mods and enemy modifiers (on magic or stronger enemies) can grant enemies dodge chance. Not sure about specific champs.

[past pendant]

"Dodge cannot protect you from damage over time ffects"

[nimble shoal]

Right, but if that DOT effect is applied by a hit, the hit needs to land. After the DOT is applied, dodge no longer affects it.

[past pendant]

But it says dodging "does not count as being hit".

[nimble shoal]

Right, so it prevents the hit damage and doesn't trigger any on-hit effects when a hit is dodged

[past pendant]

ok i get it now
Guide should use less ambiguous wording

But you don't know whether that node on Snap Freeze can help?

[nimble shoal]

It won't help, unfortunately. You'd need something that gives snap freeze "cannot be dodged" or disable the enemy's ability to dodge, I don't think either is possible as a solo mage (rogue can disable enemy dodge).

[fleet cradle]

anyone do arena ladder?

i got to wave 140

[surreal talon]

Is lightning fireball/meteor viable?

[past pendant]

lastepochtools says that Blade Weaver, unlike Volka's Razor, boosts auto-casted spells, but not equippable ones.
Does this mean that autocasted Frost Claw won't get boosted, bit it's Ice Spirals will?

[past pendant]

Uhh why is Volka's Razor not working for my 10 mana Shatter Strikes?

[sharp mantle]

maybe the mana cost is rounded up to 10 on the display but actually costs 9.7 or something?

[past pendant]

Yeah thats the info i just received from a moderator

except the game does show one decimal after point. so its like 9.96 displayed as 10

basically need to not max out the mana eff node

[sharp mantle]

some things you get the benefit of the doubt when it rounds, like idols which are stronger if you have >=300 mana apparently work if you have 299.6 mana and it rounds

not that that will come up often

but I remember someone posted a LET builder which showed they had 299.7 mana or something but in game it displays 300 and their idols give them the 300 mana bonus

[nimble shoal]

No, ice spirals is part of frost claw, so it doesn't apply to those since it doesn't apply to frost claw.
What that means is spells that are part of a melee attack are affected, such as flame wave cast by firebrand.
There is a special exception to this, fire aura doesn't get the bonus ever.

[ruby pulsar]

Shatterstrike build so far!

if anyone has some tips/comments towards my stats, anything i could focus on plz, let me know 🙏

[fleet cradle]

armor, crit avoidance 100%, ward retention...

[sinful stag]

can anyone toss me some ways to get some easy cast speed via passives/skills/etc?

playing runemaster and cast speed is ending up being a very good stat, but i cant fit it into any gear pieces

without sacrificing a lot of damage

[surreal talon]

Does craterborn buff get converted to lightning with the set staff?

[umbral stone]

What build are you running?
Or post a LE tools link, would make it easier to suggest upgrades

[radiant vessel]

Nope

[sinful stag]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/jl2658/character/Mage

[past pendant]

With Shattestrike's Whiteout node, re-casts seem to not be able to trigger Macuahuitl / Warden's Echo. Intentional?

Is Shatterstrike's mid-section a true double hit, or just a single double damage hit?

[radiant vessel]

True double hit and yes it's intentional, the recasts aren't direct casts

Things that say "when you use" only apply to the initial cast because that's the one you "used" while recasts are cast by the skill, not you

[past pendant]

No hold up. I noticed im getting some double claws actually

[radiant vessel]

Do you have the passive node

[past pendant]

i noticed that double casts occasionally occur...
and that i seem to be getting less claws than promised?

it's AS IF the passive and the skill's node dont stack properly

[radiant vessel]

They're independent yeah

[past pendant]

...

they don't add to a 50 percent chance?

[radiant vessel]

Don't think so no, but it doesn't really matter when you're spamming

[past pendant]

what?

of course it matters.

So does it mean that only the higher chance counts?

[radiant vessel]

No

Both count, but they're independent rolls

That's why you get double casts sometimes

[past pendant]

they're independent rolls... does that mean that effectively no scamming occurs in this case?

[radiant vessel]

Yes no scamming

[past pendant]

i'm still gatting an avg of 1 frost claw per 2 melee swings?

is that how the math checks out?

[radiant vessel]

Mmmm I'd have to think about that but I think so?

[past pendant]

fair enough, if buffs apply to the whole chain then so should penalties

[radiant vessel]

If a debuff and a buff have the same conditions they get inherited the same

The game doesn't care whether something is a buff/bonus or debuff/penalty

Just double checked and yeah the math comes out the same, on average you're still getting 0.5 casts of frostclaw per use, it's just a little more volatile

[past pendant]

Someone said that "there's only one way to properly build Spellblade".
It was probably an exxageration, but i think im slowly collapsing into the META which that player had in mind (tryin to do stuff on my own and did not look up any BUILD guides)

[radiant vessel]

Honestly as someone who's played spellblade for over 1000 hours I don't think that's right but it also kinda is. Spellblade is insanely limited in viable endgame builds and a lot of the viable ones like surge are just annoying to play (in my opinion). Right now CRIT based shatter strike is easily the most dps by a long shot. Frostbite shatter strike works but is kinda just worse. Flame reave is really bad as a main skill but can be used as a complementary clear skill since you can still one shot trash with it. And firebrand is only good for surge, and playing surge as your dps sucks as mentioned

Basically just go crit shatter strike. you can choose to include or exclude bloody nib and mourning frost depending on how tanky you wanna be able to be. They both provide tons of damage but make you squishier, especially mourning frost

[past pendant]

its true that my dps was the biggest ive seen with crit, but i have now unspecced from crits to try a freezing shatterstrike.
It attacks many many times, so it should freeze amazingly well? And the freeze can then be capitalized on by Glacial Smash and the much slower Frostclaws.
More freeze = less crowd clear but Champs and bosses are trivialized; thats the theory

[radiant vessel]

That's a sound theory but it's not really worth it in practice, it's easier to just one shot everything and stun bosses from sheer DPS

Damage = cc but freeze (cc) != Damage

[past pendant]

"stun"?

[radiant vessel]

Yep, any damaging hit has an inherit chance to stun that scales with the damage it deals

[past pendant]

i didnt notice bosses get stunned that much

[radiant vessel]

Because your damage is too low

[past pendant]

:[

[radiant vessel]

You need to do a LOT of damage

Plus bosses are harder to cc in general compared to other mobs

[past pendant]

i missed or forgot that stun chance is damage-based

[radiant vessel]

But it's enough to interrupt their casts and basically make them stuck in a loop of trying to cast

At 1000 corruption you just kill timeline bosses and harbingers before they get a single cast in usually with a decently geared full DPS CRIT shatter strike setup

With fairly top end gear you can do over 100 million dps vs a single target, and even more vs multi target

[past pendant]

100 fentanyllion dps :0

is this how it's reached?

[radiant vessel]

Nah I don't use ice barrage, the damage boost is nice but you die too easily without flame ward

Plus the ice barrage cast time interrupts your ramp

So it's not actually that insane

[past pendant]

really i thought Ice Barrage is for sure the answer to the riddle.

whopping 60%

[radiant vessel]

For a screenshot sure

But it's not very practical

[past pendant]

teleport for the free cast and some safety

[radiant vessel]

This was around 122 million at peak ramp

Without ice barrage, with ice barrage you might be able to get closer to 200 mil

(armour shred and doom aren't counter here)

And I've checked, it's accurate if you account for them, CRIT shatter strike is simple enough for the DPS tooltip to be reliable

[past pendant]

ramp from Lingering Chill?

[radiant vessel]

Nah bloody nib and eye of reen

Shatter strike was a part of why eye of reen got capped :P

Used to not have a cap so you had two infinitely stacking more multipliers

Now it's just one, but eye of reen is still solid with 2 lp

Also fyi lingering chill doesn't stack

And also note that screenshot is vs multiple enemies and It might've been before the eye of teen cap, can't remember

[subtle meadow]

Holy crap lmao. I was just coming to post a theorycrafted build I was working on today and I was very proud of myself for getting 500k dps on meteor/wanted to get opinions bc I don't know if I really did well (mainly farting around, first time trying to make my own build ): https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0pKZydQ

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (75) / Spellblade (6) / Runemaster (12)

General:

▸ Health: 2,036, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 615.82, Regen: 21.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 198%, Regen: 194/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 5 Dex / 51 Int / 20 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 151% / 74% / 99% / 71% / 81% / 68% / 68%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 407
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (233)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (629)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 93%

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Flame Rush / Flame Ward / Meteor / Static Orb

[subtle meadow]

56 million is insane

[past pendant]

So are most other masteries not like this? Having more diverse endgame metas?
Which one is most diverse?

I wanted to play spellblade because i thought it would be versatile but turns out it's no Spell and all Blade.

[sinful stag]

does runeword inferno increase your sheet armor?

from what i can tell no

but maybe it is and it isnt being visually reflected

[nimble shoal]

No. It gives you armor against specific enemies based on their current status at the moment they deal damage to you, not armor in general.

[sinful stag]

i see

[sinful stag]

Failed 3 LP telfuns slam, 3x 2LP seed slams

Wanted to see if I could break my hydra build into top 5 arena

But I can’t grind no more

Atleast I know it can get into top 10

[weary turtle]

do passives in specialization trees carry over to the procced version of skills? lile the enhanced chain area from lightning blast to the blasts procced from static or static orb?

[nimble shoal]

Yes, when you proc a skill that has a spec tree, it uses that spec tree (and not the spec tree of what procced it)

[wheat ravine]

I am trying to choose between RM and Sorc for a 'mage' style char (got a melee already)...I heavily favour stacking one element overall for damage...But wanted to understand, given the greater level of 'static playstyle' of the RM (i.e. standing in static buffs etc.)...can you channel the invocations e.g. greater fireball invocation? Can you channel any invocations at all? Which ones, if so? Quite like the idea of turretting...Also wondering about a dot build; is it fair to say ignite is the best supported element for dots on the mage? If others are supported well also, is sorc or RM a better choice for a dot playstyle. Lots of questions I know; back later, any info appreciated.

[nimble shoal]

There are no channeled invocations. I think disintegrate is the usual option for turreting on RM (and it itself is a fire and/or lightning DOT, and can also apply ignite too I suppose).
Not sure what the best setup is for it these days, but glyph of dominion is RM only and has some specific disintegrate synergy.

[surreal talon]

How to get single target dmg on lightning sorc? Atm playing Fireball, but have also tried lightning blast. And it struggles

[sinful stag]

There might be a build to be had with disintegrate channeling runes for double casted runic invocations

In general I feel like manual order rune generation has been criminally under explored

[weary turtle]

would it work to, with chance to ignite on hit, build a fire dot mage that relies on static+lightning blast and meteor for st?

[wheat ravine]

Thank you; any observations on Sorc Vs RM generally for DoTs is appreciated... Quite keen on a 'freeze everything' or 'melt everything' or 'shock everything to death' style

As in: dots 🙂 Which is better - Sorc or RM?

Or am I better off going say, Marksman/Falconer for wide spreading dots? (have a Lock already)

[nimble shoal]

Probably not. A lot of ignite chance is locked to fire skills, so static and LB would be at a disadvantage. Meteor is not a good skill for DOTs just because it's not really set up to support them.

[nimble shoal]

I'm a bit out of touch with current good DOT builds for mage, I think there is one specific lightning DOT (the lightning brand) locked to RM's passive tree, but otherwise the two classes mostly have access to the same builds. Frostbite requires a hefty investment in RM's passives even if you pick sorc. Thanks to mastery respec, we no longer have to worry about getting stuck on the wrong mastery, at least.

[sinful stag]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qb5zJjwA\

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 85

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (21) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (62)

General:

▸ Health: 1,399, Regen: 24.34/s
▸ Mana: 452.93, Regen: 16.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 176%, Regen: 12/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 18 Dex / 57 Int / 78 Att / 29 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 66% / 91% / 56% / 56% / 65% / 65%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 590
▸ Dodge Chance: 52% (1810)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,597)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 84%

Used skills:

Runic Invocation / Flame Rush / Flame Ward / Focus / Frost Wall

[sinful stag]

for my build here I am trying to figure out whether i should have damage taken to mana or attunement for one of the 2 prefixes i can slam on seed

effectively due to the very high dodge rate the build has the damage taken to mana is an extremely efficient affix since very few hits go through to mana, making it a highly reliable DR source as any mana that gets chunked from damage regens while dodging. effectively its a massive anti-one shot DR source which synergizes really well with dodge.

vs. a T7 attunement that could add 48% multiplier damage from fundamental

according to tunklabs the t7 damage to mana would provide 15k hp against 1 shots, 40k EHP vs. 48% multi

[wheat ravine]

Thank you; is it expensive to respec, especially when leveling?

[nimble shoal]

It costs gold scaling with character level, as long as you don't do it frequently, it's no big deal, especially early on it's not too expensive

[sinful stag]

is fundamental criterion really 1/730 for 3 LP?

elecoes abandon apparently has a similar 3LP ratio rate and i have multiple of them with like 300k favor, ive spent over a million and have yet to see a single 3 LP criterion

[nimble shoal]

Elecoe's is listed at 1/237, which is like three times as common. But also rng with low frequency drops can be pretty erratic.

[sinful stag]

Dang thought elecoes was also 1/730 but that makes sense

I’ve dropped 2 3LP telfuns which is 1/3000 vs just one 3LP fundamentals, rng be brutal

[nimble shoal]

oof well congrats kinda, lol

[sinful stag]

Bricked both boots

[lavish sundial]

Is it just me or does Flame Rush feel painful to play due to the collisioning that happens on maps?

[sinful stag]

it is

i eventually got used to it

[sinful stag]

finally hit it

[sinful stag]

starting to hit 400k hydra procs now, and with consistent double hydras thats some pretty big DPS. can almost 1 shot the 1k corruption dragon boss with a meteor shower

[lavish sundial]

Glad I’m not crazy lol, unfortunately paired with Magma Starter as a SpellBlade the cost benefit analysis is poor, even with mana strike specced for mana generation. Had to put the theorycraft on hold due to getting so frustrated lol

RIP to trying to make VO feel good to play

[leaden sonnet]

was there a trick to gweettig lp2? i oly get lp0-1. im ruig 1.2kc but dot thik that afffects aythig

[sinful stag]

spamming uber aberroth was the only way for me to realistically start dropping 2 lp seeds

[nimble shoal]

Right, corruption does not apply to Abby. Uber doesn't have any extra LP chance, but if you're able to kill him you double your Abbys

[leaden sonnet]

cat solo him yet...i get to 40-60 ormally ad die

[sinful stag]

almost done gearing b4 i push for top 10 in arena

Just need to get a solid 3LP amulet and then spend a day burning through all aberroths to see if I can get t a 2LP vise or worlds

[sinful stag]

feel much stronger and tankier

hopefully i can atleast get to 1500 waves

[sinful stag]

fml i accidentally stepped into a poison pool and died

10th is what i managed

[sinful stag]

retooled the build to be much tankier and consistent at the cost 40% damage, can now manage 1600 waves with somewhat unupgraded gear

seems like 40m DPS is overkill for arena

[tired lion]

i would like to see that thing u play vs ubby 😄

looks fun !

[sinful stag]

it can farm uber abborth very comfortably, face tanking triple slams and clearing in 2 min, will upload a vid later maybe

also died at wave 2020

so close to top 5

stupidly ran into a new wave without full ward rip

[unreal umbra]

wow, gg 2k waves

do you have to position yourself strategically or do you just stand in the middle?

[sinful stag]

relatively strategically, have to camp at a chokepoint and spam hydras in it

basically tower defense strategy where enemies funnel into a single area and get hit by the hydra turrets

otherwise they are so fast they outrun the hydra firebolts

tankiness wise i can ignore most hits except damage over time

made 1 more gear upgrade putting me from 71% dodge to 74% and adding 500 spell damage to hydra

goign to see if i can get a doubkle exalted chest which would yield ~800 more armor as well

then i think i can push hgher more comfortably

[rough minnow]

@gritty pagoda https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgkjXmYB something like this on paper, obvs you exchange the set later. Mana strike, mana strike mana arc, Arcane ascendance superconductor, enchant weapon Zap, that's 4 potential procs. I just don't see the multipliers for damage

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (39) / Spellblade (34) / Runemaster (20)

General:

▸ Health: 1,182, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 193.51, Regen: 10.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 128%, Regen: 29/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 33 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 27% / 3% / 27% / 0% / 38% / 1% / 1%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 236
▸ Armor Mitigation: 4% (83)
▸ Block Chance: 46%, Mitigation: 20% (250)

Used skills:

Flame Ward / Mana Strike / Meteor / Enchant Weapon / Arcane Ascendance

[gritty pagoda]

Hmm

[rough minnow]

worth considering if they buff Sorc tho 😛

[brisk night]

Does Jagged Veil apply its multiplier to Critical Strike Multiplier?

[nimble shoal]

Yes, it's a 1.2x multiplier to your crit multi. e.g., the base 200% crit multi becomes 240% with the max bonus.

[brisk night]

Ty

[rough minnow]

if they buff fire aura for instance, you can get enough damage through Dark Shroud of Cinders

right now i dont think it has enough tho

[native bane]

Any fire ball build or meta?

[past pendant]

Does Volka's Razor not improve autocasted Frostclaws and Lightning Blasts and Spark Charges?
I found this decent build online about proccing all that with Mana Strike, and it doesnt spec into Razor.

[rough minnow]

@gritty pagoda i cooked a bit further with this variant

[gritty pagoda]

👀

[rough minnow]

i just need a runic invocation that hits frequently

something that can, alongside mana strike mana arc and enchant weapon zap, do a lot of hits

[sinful stag]

mirror bolt?

its a decent amount of hits in a short timeframe, also gives a lot of tankiness

[rough minnow]

ideally one gon rune for crit would be nice but its an option

lets assume its not necessary

im running static and mana strike and and enchant weapon

so thats already 2 hons

[sinful stag]

does stuff like ball lightning count

for non dot invocations mirror bolt, hydra, and ball lightning stand out to me as the highest hit rate

mirror bolt being the best

[rough minnow]

id have to convert mana strike to fit in mirror bolt, thats rather rough

[sinful stag]

oh i see

[rough minnow]

ball lightnign is fine, hydra should be fine too tbh

does auto cast of enchant weapon still happen if its off the bar?

actually

might be one of those rare cases

where 1 rune and 2 rune invocation cast on RI makes sense

oh wait

need ccovenant arc

bad

for this take

so thatd be heo, heo heo and heo heo gon

thats not too bad

[rough minnow]

@sinful stag @gritty pagoda https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oy3D4KYQ something along those lines.

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (30) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,190, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 120.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 463%, Regen: 363/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 151 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 101% / 87% / 76% / 76% / 81% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 238
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (145)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,113)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 133%

Used skills:

Enchant Weapon / Mana Strike / Static / Runic Invocation / Flame Ward

[rough minnow]

(assuming enchant weapon works if its off bar)

[sinful stag]

is that easy to test?

[rough minnow]

i mean, yeah

Just have Kindling Blade in Enchant Weapon and put it off your bar

might need at least one manual cast

but the idea is simple, thicc brand with 200 void spell added and 200% void pen through static, other skills just charging it

[sinful stag]

gimme like 30 min ill generate it offline and test it

[rough minnow]

intended to use covenant arc for more shock chance

[sinful stag]

is the brand the main damage mechanism? if so, is there a need for crit?

[rough minnow]

not on the brand

right now its really boss focused... might need something else to make it work for trash

ah shit

cant be brand...

brand doesnt use the flat. dammit

Hmmh

lol is it a trinity of elements take

hmm no, probably a revik's blizzard take

[sinful stag]

this is from me testing different runic invocations with reowyns but i found the DOT ones like revik and trinity to scale horrendously with added flat,

[rough minnow]

well, high effectiveness is just fine tbh

but you want a dot

cause crits do no additional damage

so that disqualifies all htis

maybe its a sorcerer black hole take

after all

[sinful stag]

let me know if you want anything tested offline with gear since i am done with the season and mostly messing around testing

[rough minnow]

ive one VK build i wanna test

right now im trying to make a mage variant of it

if that's something youre keen to try

[sinful stag]

sure

[rough minnow]

yeah no, sorc is just too bad for generic scaling. has to be runemaster to do anything voidy. or at least, have fire aura reworked so you can do it on spell blade

[stuck fable]

Sadge cannot make an frostbite mana strike toon viable

Cos spark charge has no ice equivalent

[nimble shoal]

Maybe not, but you can definitely proc frost claw from melee attacks

[stuck fable]

i know... was tinkering with a volatile ice and yrun penance for lols

[nimble shoal]

Spark charge just isn't good for applying ailments anyway

though I guess neither is mana strike

[stuck fable]

Hence the lack of double hit via mana sarc is sadge

For ice builds

Mebbe they will have full conversion

Cold mana strike process fc proc ice Nova

[stuck fable]

But for pure ailment direct cast FC for sure

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I tried to do a Battlemage's Endeavor build and it's just... not good.

I wish you could build mana strike as a damage ability

[nimble shoal]

You can build it as a main skill proccing other things like meteor or FC, but even those aren't meta

[sinful stag]

do you guys think mana guide/focus will be nerfed in the new cycle?

it seems OP to me but at the same time its not nearly as egregious as more broken stuff like falconer

[stuck fable]

They may rebalance serpent strike druid first before touching mana sorc

[hearty jolt]

there's plenty of builds to balance before they even touch mage lol yeah

[hardy condor]

hi dos sharpnel from meteor and volcanic orp bnfit from each other node (maybe not necessary to get 2 pircing sharpnl if so )

?

[radiant vessel]

No, meteor shrapnel is separate from volcanic orb shrapnel

[karmic ravine]

im actually curious about this. what is bad about mana strike? it seems to have really good base damage and potential for 100% crit really easy with mana stacking

[nimble shoal]

Its damage effectiveness is 100% and the only damage multipliers in its skill tree require you to be out of mana, which completely disables its easy crit and flat damage stacking options.

Compare that to an okay melee skill: flame reave starts off with double the damage effectiveness at 200% and actually has damage multipliers you can use while also getting crit stats.

Mana strike does have good range, but very poor area (especially considering mage has some of the biggest area spammable melees).

[karmic ravine]

ohhh, that is a good point.

i might have to focus more on Flame Reave instead

[tranquil bay]

Might wanna use the Mordita's Reach spear - 500% frostbite chance

[lament wedge]

Does Never Late passive still works with Invocation that casted through Flame Rush? After my Flame Rush invoke Hydrahedron, the Never Late buff icon still there

[karmic ravine]

found out today that arcane momentum does not proc off triggered spell casts

[karmic ravine]

mana strike specced into spark charge + Fragment of the Enigma seems pretty good/

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, mana strike used to proc spells is okay

Spark charge, frost claw, and meteor are the usual options

[fleet cradle]

my first and only char a mage, @ 300c with meteor, black hole ignite

[sinful stag]

If other builds get nerfed maybe hydra #1 arena next season although fixing snapshotting will nuke the build out of existence

[fleet cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/live/WATND9VAMTc?feature=shared&t=1495

kind of reaching limit at arena wave 150 or so

late game is just a bunch of fast charging and long range crap attacks... reminds me of poe2 a little bit lol

wave 150 is top 200 for mage atm. We're getting our ass kicked since average void knight is like double the level lol

[fleet cradle]

there is a blessing that gives 50% chance 30 ward on hit... is it good? seems to fix the issue

ah nvm -- sucks lmao

[sinful stag]

I don’t think mage is popular is the main issue with the low average placement

I got hydra to wave 2020 or something which is higher than everything except shaman and forge sentinel but I think probably around 2500 is where it caps

Idk if there is a mage build that can go higher, brand of deception is much tankier but since it relies on block and armor it gets wasted by infinite scaling damage vs dodge

[stuck fable]

Dagaroth or mad spoon for a spark charge build

[nimble shoal]

Spoon

[noble musk]

Hey this is my first time playing and i just beat the campaign with glacier, is there anything i can swap to thats stronger?

[spare glen]

glacier is the best sorc build rn, just use it with cold converted volcanic orb for single target

if you are rm then go hydra and if spellblade go shatter

actually no technically best sorc build now is bugged snapshot focus build

[noble musk]

Ahh ok thanks, is it true that sorc is the worst class in game right now?

[spare glen]

no it is not true

[queen mason]

Do mage have any builds work like that? I have no idea

[reef flume]

I love disintegra, any buff this in next ss ?

[karmic ravine]

closest i've seen to this on mage so far has been Focus + Mana Guide + Lightning Burst specced for chains. biggest downside is it is very boring imo

[proper hawk]

Depends, dragorath (or a good katana) is good for mana strike spark charge, ladle is better for spell based spark charge like lightning blast

[karmic ravine]

i really liked Culnivar's Claim for mana strike spark charge.

[proper hawk]

The attack speed on sceptres is so slow though

And culnivars doesn't do much for spark charges

[karmic ravine]

neither does Dragorath, really.

comparatively, Culvinar's has more stats that outright boost spark charge than Dragorath does. (with the extra Lightning Spell Dmg/Crit).

granted the spell crit multi on dragorath is very good, so /shrug.

[proper hawk]

Dragorath is strictly better than a rune dagger, if you were going to use a rune dagger, a good lp dragorath is better. The difference in base attack rate is a big deal as well. The flat lightning from culnivars is negligible compared to the amount of flat you end up getting from fragment, and you get increased damage and increased crit chance from int

If it's on a spellblade you don't need the flat crit so just go with a katana, but on RM high LP dragorath is likely BIS

[echo star]

is there any levelling guide for mage ?

[harsh abyss]

Last Epoch doesn't really need leveling guides, you can level using pretty much any combination of skills you like

[unkempt gyro]

a very common way to level as a mage is with Glacier, and rushing the Lesser Glacier node.
but as Zerex said, you can level with almost any set of skills.

[grand lark]

perfect rolls on affixs damn

[polar steeple]

Hi all 🙂
This sceptre is really good but the mana converted to ward is so annoying. There are times, like in boss fights that you need mana but you have to wait because of the "mana converted to ward" loop. Mana regen mods can't speedup the mana to ward loop?
Any way to fix this?

[small rover]

Increase max mana might help

[signal crane]

I just got this weapon not too long ago. The way that I manage with this is to have focus on my skill slot and trying to keep my mana within the 100 point range.

This is my current build with Culnivar so far

[karmic ravine]

that is why i used this scepter with mana strike. mana strike gains mana super fast. 🙂

[ember prism]

This is a good guide for glacier sorc, right? Seems to be based on your work: https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1lmrsnc/i_played_as_subzero_in_le_heres_how_that_went/

[spare glen]

Ya you can also check planner in my video, its for endgame, untill 1200 mana disable 3rd explosion

[idle shard]

Is Meteor top-tier yet??

[harsh abyss]

Self cast meteor is good, you can probably build it into a top tier build

[tulip tree]

Been playing for a week and am struggling to get an idea of what I need to work on to be more effective in empowered monos (more tanky? more dps? etc).

This is my build for reference https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGnWb0xQ

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 88

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (65) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,407, Regen: 36.02/s
▸ Mana: 461.06, Regen: 12.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 271%, Regen: 43/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 4 Dex / 81 Int / 4 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 145% / 113% / 77% / 76% / 75% / 60% / 137%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 281
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (54)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (438)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 13% (86)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 46%

Used skills:

Fireball / Flame Ward / Focus / Arcane Ascendance / Meteor

[stuck fable]

thought most meteor buils uses tp

[tulip tree]

I honestly have no idea what I'm doing lol. Up til lvl 75, I had strictly fire skills (pyromancer theme)

Lagon changed my life...

[karmic ravine]

I decided to try a Firebrand / Flameweave build again now that my spellblade is up to the mid-70s in level. It feels really stronk

[stoic wind]

good morning --- im using a mage build with disintegrate. which is better 100 lightning damage or 250% increased lightning or spell damage? is the added damage better that a percentage increase?

and does it matter if i get lightning damage or spell damage?

[nimble shoal]

Baseline, +100 is twice as much as 250% increase. Which one is actually better is dependent on your specific build's balance of added damage vs. increased damage, but it will probably be the added damage unless somehow you have an extreme amount of added damage and almost no increased damage.

[nimble shoal]

If you've converted disintegrate to 100% lightning and don't add any non-lightning spell damage to it, no it doesn't matter, they are identical in that case.

[balmy spruce]

which unique gloves can i run with shatter strike?

[stoic wind]

thanks for helping guys i really appreciate...this group is amazing

[warped kraken]

Immortal vise is pretty solid for melee builds. Drops from uber tho. Can slam more melee attack speed on top

[karmic ravine]

frostbite shackles aren't a terrible choice but they arguably don't increase your damage directly much

[balmy spruce]

what about the swaddling

[balmy spruce]

cant do uber rn

[warped kraken]

Swaddling is a dps glove, not great defensively and then sorting thru the rng weaver affixes. I'd just stick with exalted like eternal gauntlets base is great

[warped kraken]

Ideally you would want melee attack speed and the more dmg is sadly to high hp only

[balmy spruce]

i only have 0 lp shackles

[warped kraken]

I wouldn't recommend it. Unless you are stacking cold res for ward or doing frostbite. I would assume you are crit based?

[balmy spruce]

ye

just started the build today

[karmic ravine]

if crit based id just get an exalted with a decent base

[warped kraken]

Agreed, don't force a unique. The only worthy one is the uber drop

[balmy spruce]

was just wondering

if there was

any good

[karmic ravine]

unfortunately not really. unique glove choices imo seem a little scarce for some mage builds. is what it is. /shrug

[south yoke]

hiiiiiiiiiii

im so hyped

with the new ring we have finally meteor top tier? :v

[ember prism]

What's the meta spellblade build these days? I was planning to gearing up a sorc using Mishka's glacier build, but I liked leveling as spellblade with Shatter Strike so much that I don't want to let it go 😅

I found https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shatter-strike-spellblade-guide, wondering if this is a good source to follow.

[wispy rune]

what new ring?

u mean the set one?

[full bluff]

I am playing meteor now and not sure if turning it into lightining would help, even with +spell dmg, not sure if the fire pen converts

[small rover]

Wonder if it’s worth attempting converting to void in the upcoming patch

[south yoke]

yes because count as equipped item set, so 2h staff is not necessary anymore

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, but you need to equip the staff to have lightning meteor, anyway. The ring just lets you skip the helm, unless you want a weird mixed-damage meteor.

[wispy rune]

what converts meteor to void? didnt know u could

[nimble shoal]

Nothing

You can convert VO to void with the rat city spear, and of course you can add void to stuff just by getting +void spell damage

[wispy rune]

i mustve misunderstood the previous comment then i guess?

[nimble shoal]

I'm not really sure what they meant tbh, might be unrelated to the meteor discussion

[wispy rune]

ahh, maybe

noob question, im not in game atm. whats rm passive? like how sorc gets mana scaling

[nimble shoal]

30% increased Elemental Damage
10% increased Cast Speed with Elemental Spells

You can always look these up, along with most info, in LE Tools or TunkLab
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/

[wispy rune]

yea i did later, i was just on a janky phone at the time

[empty pasture]

i tried runemaster for the funny hydra thing

anyone know whats a good skill to trigger them?

i used the fire elemental nova but idk which one should be the lighting one

[cosmic wave]

I think flame rush is used a lot to trigger

[gritty pagoda]

@radiant vessel @wispy rune yo cyborg this dude is curious about spellblade

ya still got the video of your like 2 bil dmg pen nib thing

[wispy rune]

👀

[gritty pagoda]

welp found his old guide for it https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/bloody-nib-crit-shatter-strike-spellblade

[silk pewter]

Bloody Nib Crit Shatter Strike Spellblade Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1

Class

Mage / Spellblade

Used skills

• Enchant Weapon
• Flame Ward
• Mana Strike
• Frost Claw
• Shatter Strike

Used unique items

• Boneclamor Barbute
• Shattered Chains
• Siphon of Anguish
• Mourningfrost
• Diothaen's Bloody Nib
• Nihilis
• Eye of Reen

Tags

Boss Killer / Melee

Created by cyborgwars · Feb 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

[wispy rune]

is shatterstrike the only viable spellbladr? its all i see peeps use

[gritty pagoda]

great question

no idea

[radiant vessel]

Pretty much tbh

You can do surge but I don't like it since it feels clunky to have your main dps skill be on cd

[gritty pagoda]

me making anomaly into a main damage skill

[wispy rune]

im still wanting a blackholr viable build but the cd is wsy to long to make it anything other than support 😭

[radiant vessel]

Firebrand and flame reave are just meh, you're better off playing something else lul

[wispy rune]

do u habe an updated planner? for shatterstrike.

potentislly playing it next cycle

[radiant vessel]

I have a really optimized one. I don't be updating my guide anymore since I'm in CT but you can always ask me questions and stuff

[wispy rune]

nws, tyvm

[radiant vessel]

Here you go
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AL48OE2A

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (8) / Spellblade (77) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,462, Regen: 23.6/s
▸ Mana: 157.42, Regen: 13.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 174%, Regen: 172/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 131 Dex / 47 Int / 5 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 44% / 75% / 70% / 69% / 100% / 50%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 292
▸ Dodge Chance: 37% (1302)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (3,176)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Enchant Weapon / Flame Ward / Mana Strike / Surge

[wispy rune]

❤️

[radiant vessel]

It's pretty aspirational gear though

[gritty pagoda]

w cyborg

[radiant vessel]

You can do a ton of DPS without that level of gear

[gritty pagoda]

how many bleeds does it sustain

[radiant vessel]

And the idols can especially look very different before getting it optimized

[wispy rune]

yea i dont play cycles enough to get that super super bis gear

[radiant vessel]

Yeah but all the uniques stay the same either way

Just less LP

Name of the game is stacking dex and attack speed

[wispy rune]

yea, if none of the new cycle uniques catch me eye i might give it a go

[gritty pagoda]

I hope cold shred gets a source that isnt the blessing next cycle

[radiant vessel]

Entirely depends on enemy count. Can't remember what the single target is, maybe 100 or a little less?

[gritty pagoda]

ah

[radiant vessel]

I don't even have cold res shred lel

You have nib

[gritty pagoda]

planner has the blessing c:

[radiant vessel]

Any source of it becomes better used for something else

Wtf

Hold up

[gritty pagoda]

also like almost all the sources of cold shred are ones you cant use

[radiant vessel]

I mean you can use it

But it doesn't give you a lot of value

Its like 10% more damage

But yeah it's 10% damage or be a bit tankier basically

You choose depending on your armour and stuff at the time

Cleaned up lul

[gritty pagoda]

10% more damage or go crazy with your like 200% pen

[radiant vessel]

Well it's 10% with 200% pen

Since it gives another 20%

[gritty pagoda]

shush

[radiant vessel]

Xd

[gritty pagoda]

its not the work day anymore you can't make me actually think

[radiant vessel]

Oh wait that's not how math works it's less

[gritty pagoda]

[radiant vessel]

It's 6.7% dmg

The armour is 8% DR on that planner, you choose xd

[gritty pagoda]

⚔️

k i l l

[radiant vessel]

@wispy rune just thought I'd warn you if you follow that planner; you will be squishy even if you get all the defensive stuff on it. It's simply a glass cannon. You can get substantially tankier by not using mourningfrost but you'll of course also miss out on a bunch of flat damage so it's your choice. I like playing with it but that's just because I like damage too much :P

[gritty pagoda]

thats kinda the spellblade way

[wispy rune]

yea expected, but ill try. im waiting to see anymore uniques before i commit but id been meaning to play a spellblade for awhike

started levelling one this season n got sidetracked 😂

[radiant vessel]

I do usually farm at around 1000+ corruption and can survive fine but it's less because the build is tanky enough and more because I've learnt to avoid getting hit enough to survive xd

[wispy rune]

have u done uber with it?

[radiant vessel]

Yep but it's rough lol

Not going for mourningfrost would make it more Uber viable imo

Since you can get to the point of not getting oneshot by literally anything if you don't use it

[waxen sigil]

Is there anywhere I can see a concise list of changes to runic invocations individually

Obvi I can read through and search keywords in every patch notes, I tried letools but I’m not really seeing it, working some new cool tech maybe

Also what’s going on w the 4.4K waves guy is he doing infinites or just high sustain and mitigation

[nimble shoal]

On LE Tools you can look at the changes to the individual invocations at the bottoms of their pages, but nothing that sums up all changes for everything

[waxen sigil]

Oh yeh I see now ty just a few specific ones anyhow

[wheat ravine]

Been messing around with some sorceror play and really liking it; fireball'ed to 70...now looking to swap to a good cold build. Anyone recommend one? Lots of long-range AOE or similar please (off-screen hits ideally). What do people suggest; Ice Barrage? Frozen Orb? Frost Claw? Bonus if it's a massive frostbite stacking build 🙂

I suppose sorc is better than runemaster also for cold?

I've heard of a cold-converted lightning blast build, but can't find one. Note this is just for low corruption stuff, nothign high.

[waxen sigil]

Shock is better for damage and just killing stuff than fiddling w dots

Crit multi etc

I used plasma fb gloves a lot, easy lp too

Cold is cool tho 😉

[wheat ravine]

Any suggestions on a shock build with a load of off-screen aoe then? Something like just a lightning blast spam build? Runie or Sorc?

Think; huge off-screen clear and non-targeted, ideally (basically a 'netflix' build) 😄

[tepid barn]

Tornado whole screen wipe

Pure glass cannons

[waxen sigil]

I personally love homing fireballs for offscreen

And the helmet mod gain mana on cast or whatever easily makes them into a mana generator

And u make them tagged w light/fire by wearing the glove, or they can be pure lightning if u also get the node

[ornate ice]

What is the shatter strike build you mainly use for both bossing and mapping purposes? Maxroll or something different?

[proper hawk]

you could probably do a cold converted frostbite lightning blast build, and I think it should be totally fine for low corruption, but you'll probably need to make it yourself, doubt you'll find much for guides

for frostbite, you might want to look into using focal blast together with halo effect

the spark nova from halo effect inherits the damage multipliers from focal blast

halo effect doesn't inherit the damage multipliers from shattershock, so normally I would recommend convergence for single target over focal + halo, but frostbite won't benefit from shattershock anyways so you can just go focal and still have a little clear on LB.

[dreamy scaffold]

I am trying out Mage, and has anyone else had an issue where Focus with Conveyance gets weirdly interrupted a lot of the time, cancelling the channel after the teleportation? Is there a workaround for this?

[dreamy scaffold]

A mechanics question for people: With Ice Claw and Volley of Glass (the enables multi-hit passive), will the projectiles from On Through The Snow also hit the same target if they impact at the same point?

[dreamy scaffold]

Hm, looks like yes

[radiant vessel]

Yes

Also I haven't had that issue with focus myself

But I also Pretty much never use focus outside of mana guide

[dreamy scaffold]

Thanks for the confirmation

Do you usually just use things with lowish mana cost, or have some other way of regaining mana?

[radiant vessel]

Either or. You can potentially use things like runebolt or fireball as mana generators and if you're spellblade you use mana strike

Or you use something with a low cost

[dreamy scaffold]

I played Ice Claw mage through the start of the first Imperial Era zone, and so far it has been quite strong but also very mana intensive, using Focus to reload quite often.

[radiant vessel]

There's also mana tunnel in teleport in case you want to occasionally use a high mana cost spell but honestly it doesn't have many uses

[radiant vessel]

Yeah if you're using the recast nodes it can get a bit pricey for sure. You'll just need to invest in some Regen, the less cost nodes. A wand with - mana cost and so on

[dreamy scaffold]

I am not playing farther for now because now that I found a skill I want to try building around I am holding off for the expansion in a couple weeks

[radiant vessel]

Imo taking all the recast nodes is too much, I'd only use what you can sustain tbh

Yeah 1.3 will include balance changes and new uniques like every new season so there might be something relevant to what you wanna play that changes the build in a meaningful way

[dreamy scaffold]

Where I left off, the multihit node plus the first repeat node gave me about 75% uptime, which was worth it I think since the repeat node roughly doubled my dps

[radiant vessel]

Yeah taking the first recast is a must with volley its legit double damage as you said

[dreamy scaffold]

The backward recast seems like it would be another 50% more damage, though at 2 + 30% more mana cost

[radiant vessel]

Taking things like winters gift and the left hand less cost node can help but yeah both volley and the recast add to the mana cost so it'll be a bit pricey without a good wand and decent Regen

[dreamy scaffold]

Do you have advice on building Ice Claw for frostbite vs changing it to lightning damage and using that "cast on crit Lightning Blast up to 3x per second" dagger?

[radiant vessel]

I haven't played a ton of frostclaw myself but if you look up frozensentinel on youtube he's very knowledgeable on the skill and has a few guides on it

Think he actually made a volley of glass mourningfrost build this season

[dreamy scaffold]

The video I am looking at from a year ago was the lightning version stacking Spark Charges with 40+ cost. I am not sure how he is sustaining the mana for that

Something I've been considering for this build is trying that "completes sets" unique ring with Vilatria's Storm Crown, to get that 2 item set ability of +1 spell lightning damage per 2 int without needing to use a weapon slot

Hm, looking at the video more, it looks like they use teleport to refund meteor plus the additional recovery from meteor specialization

[radiant vessel]

Yeah but honestly I dislike that tech

[dreamy scaffold]

Yeah that seems a bit awkward

[radiant vessel]

Check this one https://youtu.be/t0JclZMTujU?si=UFD_5Ejy2MT57KYZ

[dreamy scaffold]

Ooh, mourningfrost can double dip for it with that one Frost Claw passive, didn't know it worked like that

[radiant vessel]

Yep it's pretty dope

[dreamy scaffold]

Hm yeah that's better scaling than the 1/2 int from that crown set, and sadly it looks like Mad Alchemist Spoon with int stacking will be better than that cast on crit dagger

Also it seems that you can stack two attributes almost as high as you can stack just one focusing on that

[elfin obsidian]

is frost claw better than shattered strike?

[radiant vessel]

DPS wise? No

Corruption pushing wise? Yes

You can get way tankier on frost claw thanks to things like twisted heart

Which you don't even really need. It being ranged is already a huge advantage

But both are solid

[elfin obsidian]

ah ok thanks bro i made a mage and im enjoying shatter strike

[hardy condor]

hi i have a few question about black hole skill : 1)does buff from yourself apply to an already existing skill ("craterborn" from "meteor" to an already existing black hole)?2)does black hole gain both fire and cold tag from "binary system" even i have "singularity" and if so does i get +2 black hole from unstable core ?

[nimble shoal]

1. No, skills take your stats at the time you initially cast them (this will change in some cases in the next update like for minions, but idk if black hole specifically will change).
2. Yes, singularity doesn't interact with binary system, so it should get +2 still. Just fyi, the way binary system currently works is the "two stars" thing is a purely visual effect, and all it does aside from that is make black hole deal double damage, there's no cold component added so it's all still fire (the lack of cold is definitely a bug).

[hardy condor]

so 2) is a bug and should give the +2 well for now its a +1 so less worth of a slot ty for help

[nimble shoal]

It does still give the cold tag too, I'm pretty sure, so it would get +2 just without actually being cold. It's a really strong node if you're near since it's just straight double damage

[waxen sigil]

i messed w black hole yesterday, armageddon gives it a firetag while maintaining cold, the other one gives it a fire and removes cold

test by using +skill weapon, tags are not updating properly.

[radiant tendon]

can someboddy help me get Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros? 😄

[waxen sigil]

Heh goat item

[ember prism]

Thank you for your video! It got me interested in mage, and I ended up trying multiple builds - spellblade, glacier, hydra (with a detour to lightning blast).

With the snapshotted aspirant's arrival, hydra has such insane dps, but I think I like the feel of glacier the most. Lots of ward and volcanic orb is unexpectedly great at single target.

[spare glen]

i like glacier more too especially if you get to seed+ward setup

[elfin obsidian]

they are taking snapshotting out of the game when the new season starts

[nimble shoal]

Not entirely, but the aspirant's arrival thing is really just a bug anyway

[proven haven]

Has anyone had much success messing around with Spark Nova? any sort of weird chaining you can do? I know there was some weird stuff in the past, dunno if still anything cool
https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/small_lightning_nova

Spark Charge -> Nova -> Spark Charge kinda but its pretty low chain chance, other than for AoE which seems good

[radiant vessel]

I've used it for stuff like harbinger of stars and spark charge procs and it's good for supplementing them but 40% just isn't enough to keep it going by itself usually, but like meteors proccing spark charges and Novas can make harbinger go crazy for example and drain any amount of mana

[proven haven]

yea spark charge was what I was looking at too, I did some math on it and it seems like a decent DPS boost even with the low chances per hit, if you can smooth it out with a lot of hits. The harbinger thing becomes a big problem though because of the mana, and only being 1 meteor now :/

[radiant vessel]

Oh true I totally forgot they made that change

Darn

With shrapnel I bet it's still doable tbh

Shrapnel + spark nova and spark charges is a good amount of hits

[proven haven]

on single target?

[radiant vessel]

But not enough for it to self proc and go ham on single target

Yeah nah

[proven haven]

how many hits would you get out of 1 meteor + shrap?

on big hitbox do you get multiple?

[radiant vessel]

You can get It to hit maybe 5 times per cast but you need like 12+

Hmmm I'm not sure if shrapnel snapshots or not tbh

I'd imagine it doesn't since they're shot at the same time but idk

[proven haven]

I was also looking at a meteor mana dump tech and this potentially could work with self cast meteor

but you probably better off going into the meteor damage itself

since it has great scale nodes

[radiant vessel]

If you don't go multi meteor you'd wanna go vilatria for sure for stardust, since otherwise there's not really enough nodes right

[proven haven]

well maybe with +6 and +1 from new ring

[radiant vessel]

But multi meteor is so crazy compared to single so I feel you're better off self casting meteor tbh

It's basically 5x damage for double the mana cost or so

[proven haven]

yea. honestly the mana cost per meteor is just too high for indirect now

unless you are doing it with some crazy generator or something and its just supplementary

but much more cost efficient uses of that mana

[radiant vessel]

Yea

[proven haven]

createrborn didn't become light pen with vilatria right?

[radiant vessel]

Don't think so, at least not in the past

[agile hollow]

Im looking at rolling a mage for next season, whats a good build/strategy to get familiar with using mage before the season

pros/cons/etc

[radiant vessel]

I feel like you don't really get familiar with the class/mastery as much as the specific build. So I'd just pick a mage build that seems cool/fun and you'll get some general knowledge of the class as you progress with it. I would say that playing spellblade gives you the least amount of knowledge of the class though since it shares very little in common with the other two masteries in terms of how you build it and stuff

[agile hollow]

gotcha, yeah i have a solid handle on ARPGs as a whole and the concept of min/max'n
So ill start running up through Spellblade and get a hand on it

thanks

[finite igloo]

Hey guys, I started LE 2 days ago and made a sorcerer. Level 83 atm and I finally equipped my Wrongwarp wand. I am not using Teleport, but Focus with the passive that turns it into a blink

I thought since with that passive Focus inherits the same tag as Teleport, it would proc with Wrongwarp, but it doesn't.

Is this a bug?

[proven haven]

no, it's not "teleport" iirc the focus node also says it does not count as teleport

hey mage experts, I did a bunch of math on the new set vilatria + ladle combo with some changes and it seems like the spark nova spark charge combo should be really strong

Made a video: https://youtu.be/9DsKn-WtfTY

Please let me know if this makes sense. I have a few other ideas using same combo that might be good but 🤷‍♂️

[neon bobcat]

that "counts as a set" ring has some pretty potent potential with the vilatria's set

i'm considering running that in combo with the spark charge offhand for the mana strike -> frost claw -> lightning bolt -> ele nova max attack speed setup as my build for the new season, barring the lich changes completely wowing me

basically just adds 50% more added flat to spark charges on top of the fragment of the enigma offhand, from multi-dipping on int

[neon bobcat]

This is what I was working on: very rough idea. mostly 1lp slams, no idols planned yet, no preferred amulet, no blessings configured. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ2zvZ8B

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (56) / Runemaster (32)

General:

▸ Health: 1,266, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 215.51, Regen: 8.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 284%, Regen: 233/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 16 Dex / 148 Int / 7 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 42% / 18% / 82% / 52% / 12% / 13% / 13%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 253
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (64)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 13% (373)

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Frost Claw / Elemental Nova / Enchant Weapon / Mana Strike

[proven haven]

This was already decent before so probably even better now I imagine

[neon bobcat]

Last time i played it was before guarenteed 1LP slams so i was barely scratching 90 int, this time around i should be able to get t7 attack speed slams and t7 int slams on top of having the set effect. should be absolutely nutty

[proven haven]

Could maybe even use Halvar set shard for 40 flat on boot with the set ring. Need to math that though

Yeah Niche was running basically this build in hardcore, i think it ended up getting close to 200 int, pretty far into corruption too

[neon bobcat]

you get fairly stacked on lightning pen and specific-affix damage

flat's powerful but unsure if you'd actually pick up something worth it there over slamming t5/7 int on exile boots

esp if you're taking say, lightning res shred blessing

[proven haven]

Its possible we have T8 affix

[neon bobcat]

Pardon

[proven haven]

We've seen +6 skills on chest

We could see +24 int or something

[neon bobcat]

these lich changes better blow me out of the water cause i'm more and more onboard with sparkmage

[nimble shoal]

Pretty sure we can't apply that to legendaries

Not sure if they conflict with the primordial ring also

[sand bridge]

Would something like this be viable late game? Using mana strike to proc lightning blast and frostclaw/nova
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qnxzbmzo

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (68)

General:

▸ Health: 1,245, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 404.6, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 102%, Regen: 15/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 26 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 35% / 43% / 15% / 12% / 0% / 3% / 3%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 249
▸ Armor Mitigation: 11% (278)

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Frost Claw / Elemental Nova / Enchant Weapon / Mana Strike

[radiant vessel]

Depends what your end goal is. If you want to kill Uber aberroth then no. Normal aberroth? Maybe but it would be a struggle still

[sand bridge]

sadge

[radiant vessel]

Battle mages endeavour is just not good currently sadly

[neon bobcat]

a similar build would be something like i posted earlier, using dragorath's claw and fragment of the enigma

plays the same, just spam mana strike

[radiant vessel]

Yeah dragorath's is just straight up better than battle mages endeavour tbh

[neon bobcat]

battlemage's doesn't appear to have the cap of 3 lightning blasts per second, but i don't think that's worth it over dragorath

you also lose out on a catalyst

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, considering it's 75% chance per attack at most, you'd be really hard-pressed to even reach 3 per second average

[neon bobcat]

4 aps isn't too too bad, but the sources of added attack speed are not common

i'm "stretched" taking t7 on dagger and gloves (on falcon fists base for the second attack speed roll)

[nimble shoal]

You'd need 123% increased attack speed. It's doable, especially while EW is up, but it's not super easy to have

[harsh abyss]

I built a BE this league and it pretty much sucked. BUT you might me able to do it using the ring to replace the vilatria staff and have that set.

The problem was that BE has such low flat damage that even with super high attack speed, you dont have much spell flat damage and it makes it hard to do reasonable damage.

Its hard to make it better than Dragorath's for basically any build though. You need to get well over 4 aps to really make it worth it.

[neon bobcat]

and it's not like dragorath's loses effectiveness as your attack speed increases, too. you still get more frost claw/ele nova procs, "just" 3 lightning blasts per second

[neon bobcat]

makes me wonder if i should try just selfcasting frost claw at some point. new ring and ladle perhaps

[queen dew]

so is snapshotting in all forms being removed (so for temporary skills like fissure as well as minions)?

[safe hedge]

That's what we have been told

[nimble shoal]

No

we don't have 100% info on what it happening with snapshotting

we've been given a couple examples, minions don't snapshot and aura of decay won't snapshot, but disintegrate will snapshot

[queen dew]

hmm, I hope there is nuance

snapshotting for some skills makes them so much more interesting

gear swapping for minions is clearly toxic though

[thick pebble]

It wasn't even that bad, most builds did it once per monolith and then you could blast for hours without doing it again

I agree though. For skills it makes sense and should exist, there is some neat tech you can do with Julra rings

[nimble shoal]

Wasn't that bad isn't a stunning review, tbh I would personally just skip any build if it needed that.
The worst is when the snapshotting involves respeccing skills, big oof.

[proven haven]

Yeah i was talking about an exalt with T8 int and halvar as an alternative blood of exile

If that's a thing

[proven haven]

I mathed this too, will probably do a video on it

[nimble shoal]

Ah, gotcha - yeah I guess we'll see if there's anything preventing us from being able to have those on reforged sets

would be big for reforged sets if so (and especially if having a primordial exalt doesn't prevent us from equipping a primordial unique)

[unreal umbra]

re t8. it's really interesting, like look at this. the 1h they showed had 17% melee crit, that's way off this chart

t8 11-12
t9 13-14
t10 15-16
t11 17-18

or it's more like they took the 1h value and made it into the 2h value

[waxen sigil]

Lol I have one for you…. Respeccing mastery 😉

[nimble shoal]

lol

[proven haven]

we also saw +6 skills with 297 spell damage - T7 is +4 with 150% spell damage so seems like 50% more levels and maybe 100% more max on the spell - I'm not sure if they have some sort of formula for this or if it's balanced case by case, but it is a lot of power

[nimble shoal]

It doesn't seem like a formula, like T7 is usually double a T5, but not always... doesn't exclude there being a formula, but I feel like the funny typos leading to low tiers having an extra 0 on their max roll really makes me think the tiers are hard-coded

[thick pebble]

It is personal perspective but when I was playing Stormcrows I literally put on the minion gear, summoned them, put on my actual gear and didn't have to think about it for the rest of my session

A mild inconvenience at best, took me 10 seconds in exchange for significantly stronger minions.

But I understand why it is bad on average and needed to be fixed

[neon bobcat]

would love to see what the t8 2h ele dot mod is then 👀

[rotund steeple]

hey i cant get hydra with runemaster to summon, i place ice wall, then flamerush then runic inovation, just does meteor shower

[neon bobcat]

do you have any of the idols that limit your runes, or have you converted any of those skills?

hydra is gon/rah/rah, I think you need to convert ice wall to lightning first

heo/rah/rah is igneous rain

[proper hawk]

should only be 25% shouldnt it? since vilatria is 1 per 2 int and enigma is 2 per 1 int

[neon bobcat]

Ah true, to the spark charges. Does add a lot of damage to all of your proc’d hits tho

I had forgotten that enigma was 2 per 1

[proper hawk]

maybe this is a hot take but i think vilatria's with enigma is more of a side grade, you are giving up a second red ring as well as a double int helmet in exchange for 25% more damage, maybe its just me but id take the red ring DR and resists and the extra bump in int instead

[nimble shoal]

You're also giving up the ability to have a different primordial unique (if there's a good one for the build), or primordial exalted if those get blocked by primordial uniques as well.

And there are some good unique helms you miss, too

[proven haven]

It's possible but it's a lot more than 25% more damage. Even with a LB setup 42% of your hits are spark charge, you hit way more often with LB than Spark Charges, so the flat damage added to both benefits both. Also the secondary procs (nova, spark nova, etc etc.) also get the added flat from vilatria and many have their own skill tree multis unlike spark charge.

but yeah basically I brought up that exact argument in my video when I went over the math and why it doesn't fully apply

[rapid hinge]

also not everything has to be a straight upgrade

[safe hedge]

95% total damage increase seems worth losing 1 red ring, personally. losing double int helm doesnt matter much with how much flat dmg you are getting

[proven haven]

Yeah. I also forgot about the orian belt in my video which procs smite that also gets the flat, and procs more novas and sparks which proc each other a bit, all with added vilatria damage

[proven haven]

Exactly it doesn't. New tech forces us to approach the problem from new angles. Like the novas I tried before and they sucked. New tech makes them decent

[safe hedge]

The smite getting flat is interesting lol. Curious what runemaster version dps looks like without all the extra spark novas

[proven haven]

Its solid still, especially if they fix jagged veil

And CFC invocation is a lot of ward

Mana sustain much worse though

There's a bunch of trade offs to consider. Can't look at any one change in a vacuum. You meed 8 extra points to take LB nova for example so if you don't take LB nova you save 4 pathing nodes too for something else that gives damage.

I had to drop Aegis for this to work but the cast speed from aegis idols meant you need some way to generate more mana, indirectly costs dps

I did do some offline fudging to simulate 1.3 changes as best I can and got pretty close. dummy dps was much higher than 1.2 RM as expected

The AoE dps with all the novas and chains was insane though. The triple dummy test basically froze my game with all the calculations going on

[boreal crow]

Hey guys, is there any guy who can tell me what is the different between "+50 magic damage" and "50% increase magic damage"? I think i dont understand. Im also very bad in english (i googled it but dont understand the difference)... 😅🙈

[torpid urchin]

Love your vids btw!

[proven haven]

Flat vs increased. 1000 +50 = 1050. 1000 with 50% increased is 1500. (Assuming no other modifiers)

You want both typically

Dont think LE has "magic damage" though