🧙┃mage

[molten cobalt]

Since sorc got buffed

In 1.1

And pure int frostclaw runemaster isn’t even a runemaster

The purpose of runemaster isn’t even used

[amber stone]

i'm messing around with nova stuff for funsies

[hybrid schooner]

yall ever confirm is the posesses nemesis does anything useful

i put it back on the tree but i dont think it does anything

it does say the nemesis is possed when im fighting it, but if it doesnt benefit the egg who cares right

[nimble shoal]

Just helps you get more nemesis encounters

[hybrid schooner]

just seams theres almost always a nemesis anyways. i suppose it couldnt hurt tho

only like 25m off of falconer

close...

[hybrid schooner]

bro... the reason they all go glass cannon shatter on uber is because it doesnt matter if you go tanky with health and dr, every single thing is one shot anyways

but like i hae not given up any damage what so ever

[molten cobalt]

it doesnt

the imprisoned mage node will actually give you extra prisons

with or without the nemesis node you still only get 1

[nimble shoal]

You can't get more than 1 nemesis per area, but it's supposed to just get you closer to 100% chance. If it's not doing that, then it's a bug I guess.

[hybrid schooner]

@molten cobaltare you working on any builds rn or still str stackn

[molten cobalt]

most days i dont even log in

[molten cobalt]

i cant remember ever not having 1 nemesis even without that node

it seems it is there in every single map in high corr

[hybrid schooner]

breh this guy Goosewayne has been in global crying about a falconer bug fix

i bet the stupid falcon still kills uber in under 3o seconds

[molten cobalt]

imagine the crying in 1.3 when they nerf sentinel

[hybrid schooner]

ya, but i bet most the people playing that are just meta chasers. theyll just play the next potato players Op build

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, chance scales with corruption, so should be pretty much always when you're up high

[molten cobalt]

so the node is just straight useless

[harsh abyss]

Well, not every node needs to be super strong at all corruption levels

[indigo ingot]

Will look into this build! Have been running a dual Disintegrate/Fire Aura build with Ignivar's Head but hasn't really been working for me at empowered monos

[jaunty mason]

quick question. What should i be slamming this with? I am currently running LB meteor. What afflix do yall think would be best?

my stats for a better idea. I know my resistances are low for any sort of corruption. im currently working on some resistance boots

[wet cape]

How does this work exactly?

So if you have cold cold fire runes it would cast the corresponding elements runebolts?

[lunar crest]

Anyone got a STR stack planner lying around?

[wet cape]

You should try to get some transient rest unique boots, gives you all the resistances you're lacking

And with high mana builds the passive ward generation is nice

[jaunty mason]

thats exactly what i was building up in nemesis

and it proc'd exactly what i needed

[wet cape]

I used them for so long, congrats

[mellow tiger]

Hi, how are you?
Please help me level 1-50 can you help me?

[jaunty mason]

thanks, it was the perfect answer to what i using before hand.

[mellow tiger]

I'm starting a new game with rpa

[wet cape]

For being lvl 91 I'm surprised you're using rares/magic items at all

[mellow tiger]

I'm starting a new game with rpa

[jaunty mason]

I have no idea what im doing 🤣

[mellow tiger]

can you help me?

[wet cape]

What kind of help do you need? Lvl 1-50 allows for a lot of fooling around and learning at your own pace. If its your first RPG I'd recommend following your own path. Unless you mean something else for RPA

[jaunty mason]

last time i played was in beta

[mellow tiger]

yes

[wet cape]

Do you have any runes of havoc or redemption laying around?

[jaunty mason]

im sure i have lots of both, i havent use any runes since i started

[mellow tiger]

😢

[wet cape]

Using nemesis to create multi exalt mod items, paired with those runes are like the bread and butter of making the best items

Gilto I don't know what kind of help you need 🙈

[mellow tiger]

ok

[wet cape]

Check out maxroll website if you want full build guides

Maybe that's what you need

[mellow tiger]

ok

[wet cape]

Sorry I can't help further

[jaunty mason]

I sent you a DM prism

[mellow tiger]

no problem

[mellow tiger]

no problem

question has builds start? wizard

[hybrid schooner]

what

bruh when did peeacock start locking almost all of their content behind anothe pay wall

[slender wren]

Is it worth to use Traitor's Tongue for Flame Reave Spellblade in main hand*?
If so - in off hand I put Scissor of Atropos or Eye of Reen?
Or just go for x2 Scissor of Atropos?

And what about double Sunwreath?

[harsh abyss]

Traitor's tongue is usually used for offhand because it adds flat crit. Since mages can't use it offhand (because it's a dagger) it's not usually considered a great item for them

[slender wren]

I understand that

But +4 to 4 out of 5 skills looks so tempting

Jasper's Searing Pride is also an option, but I'm not sure if it's worth it

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, and parry chance isn't exactly bad, either

[rose mica]

+500hp is worthy

[tight wadi]

when i first started playin LE there was a crazy fun looking gatling gun fireball build that seemed quite strong, is that still a thing and is it any good?

[daring wedge]

i will automatically assume that it wasnt fireball

[tight wadi]

wut

[daring wedge]

well by that i mean that it's probably flameburst

[tight wadi]

that looks neat

[rose mica]

chill

[warped crow]

no it was

it was ignite version most likely

cindersong and mortality rings?

[warped crow]

is that what it was?

i played that back before they gutted the rings xD

[daring wedge]

isnt it just strictly better to do blackhole ignite or tbh anything else ignite

[warped crow]

oh ye litterally anything else on mage is better than fireball rn

black hole is kinda expensive to get off the ground

need alot of skill points past 20

[daring wedge]

blackhole can do upto 300 without that at least last time i played it

[warped crow]

maybe? you need to do a lot of passive tree stretching

and you need to like really juice area to make it work

[daring wedge]

and i assumed the fireball build he was thinking of was the immolator's oblation fireball hit build (where ironically a decent amout of the damage was from flameburst and not fireball

[warped crow]

maybe? lol

i mean a build still exists like that on maxroll updated ... but they dont cheap out on the gear kek

[daring wedge]

because that can push at least mapping to 1000s of corruption but as you would expect its a glass cannon build

[warped crow]

its just worse fire converted frostclaw

its soo sad

you need like 15-18 points just to do what frostclaw can do in like 4 or 5

and thats kinda your cap ... while frostclaw can tripple in the next like 10

the only thing that fireball has over frostclaw is the fire res shred

and well thats not a hard thing to get

[bleak wind]

Has any1 tried lightning meteor with the vilatria set this season?

Wanna see if it's worth it to play with set shard crafting

[warped crow]

its probably good

[warped crow]

youll lose all the potential mana from the staff but you can use the +1 ele skill staff owo

[daring wedge]

main upside of fireball at least for corruption pushing builds is it offscreens alot more consistently

[warped crow]

lol

[dusk sluice]

Damn leveling that int stacking brand of deception still quite low level and on the orbiting plasma orb step damage single target is sooo low xD doing it on CoF thats mby why ofc xD

[vale tartan]

Has anyone a link to a semi viable Static build ?

[dusk sluice]

Check Bigdaddy on YT I think he had static build but for big dips needs a lot of investment

[vale tartan]

Its LB or its a Frostclaw E-nova rn :/

[warped crow]

ye i wouldnt kek

[vale tartan]

i believe exploding ground Volcanic orb is still good for leveling

[warped crow]

probably not without a low lvl unique with +4 to volcanic orb

that skill is very hungry for points

expecially when glacier exists

[dusk sluice]

Im half way till I get to brand it will be bit easier then with brand ticks but for now its so mediocre either way the gear I could get so far

[proud swift]

The cast speed on mad alchemist's laddle just seems way too good not to take as a Runemaster :/

[molten cobalt]

The ladle is indeed a staple and often best in slot

Just gotta make sure you stack ailments

[molten cobalt]

You don’t use plasma orb for single target

But if you’re still int stacking maybe you have not switched to criterion chest armor yet

[amber otter]

so im cooking some shatter strike stuff and want to get some opinions, exsang prevents bleed meaning you cant use the bloody nib, is going shroud worth it? ditch the nib? maybe i should just give up on low life ward shenanigans?

also yes ive heard of some very OP shatterstrike build but im trying not to look it up

[hybrid schooner]

uhh tell me the shatter stikr build rn

[molten cobalt]

Shatter strike is in no way shape or form OP

[hybrid schooner]

ya im very skeptical of this claim

[amber otter]

skimmed this post https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1kr1b9t/has_shatter_strike_shattered_my_expectations_for/

[molten cobalt]

Reddit

[hybrid schooner]

@amber otterif you dont lose nib. you lost 50-100 bleed stacks on bosses. so basically most of your damage

if you dont use nib

[amber otter]

i honestly just said "i want to play mage" and then started winging it and did mana strike and shatter strike seemed like the natural progression

[amber otter]

i see

[hybrid schooner]

its the only substantial pen that shater strike can get. so its a huge increaes

[molten cobalt]

Then you’re not gonna play shatter strike

That’s not a mage that’s melee

[amber otter]

hey the class is mage 🧠

[molten cobalt]

Mage is sorc or runemaster

[molten cobalt]

Yeah but blade isn’t a mage, not really

It’s a shitty attempt at a melee battle mage

Failed attempt

[hybrid schooner]

@amber otterfind this buld you were talking about.

its probably the zhp variants that kill uber. which means you have to be a gaming god to not die

[molten cobalt]

I’d like to be a god gamer

But I know my limitations

I fumble, a lot

[hybrid schooner]

ya i get super tunnel vision while playing mele. im not cut out for it

[amber otter]

i was being bad with my phrasing, what i should have said was "ive heard this skill is godlike and you can make an OP build with it", and my source was comments in that reddit thread

[molten cobalt]

You cannot make an OP build with it

You can make a functioning build with it, if you’re REALLY skilled

[dusk sluice]

Wait I dont? In his guide he said switch and other than plasma orb he had only lb which ofc I also spam but its even worse I think xD and by int stacking brand of I meant just the version of build I dont have any uniques yet still in acts

[molten cobalt]

Alright yeah then you’re still at that stage where your damage against bosses is ass

It gets fixed big time when you swap to STR

[hybrid schooner]

@amber otterwelp. the reality of shatter strike is that the boss damage is the only strong point of it. and its not anything even close to the other big guys. your echo clear speed is relatively slow. and you have to be extremely well geared to even approach 1000 cor. not to mention almost ALL of the gear is 2lp at best. you really wont find higher

[dusk sluice]

Right okay xD to str? Damn that will take me weeks xD considering Im level 30 smth after two days ahahahha

[amber otter]

aight thanks for the rundown

[hybrid schooner]

ive been working on a shatter strike a couple weeks now

[amber otter]

i did feel weird that i was flying with erasing strike but didnt experience anything near it with shatter strike

[molten cobalt]

Then yes that’ll take you weeks

[amber otter]

i always start character found and no build guide so it's like for like comparisons

[hybrid schooner]

ya that guy is absolutely coping hard

[molten cobalt]

Lies

[hybrid schooner]

cooooping

[molten cobalt]

Insane and OP it is definitely not

[hybrid schooner]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9rXw8EB heres my shatter strike.

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (28) / Spellblade (77) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,372, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Mana: 140.71, Regen: 14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 257%, Regen: 196/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 125 Dex / 67 Int / 6 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 113% / 89% / 113% / 110% / 106% / 123% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 674
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (600)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,693)

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Teleport / Enchant Weapon

[amber otter]

i see, makes sense

is frost claw not worth it?

i pretty much have the same skills as you besides teleport

[hybrid schooner]

surge then?

[amber otter]

oh wait no you did something a little different in the flame ward tree too, hmm

[hybrid schooner]

uhh are you doing a frostbite setup? frostclaw just doesnt make seense if youre not doing an on-hit type build

well. what is the frostclaw doing for you

cuae its not for damage

[amber otter]

ok i barely reached monos so nothing has really been put together yet, but through the whole campaign i did shatter proccing frost claw (30% from tree, 20% from passive).

[hybrid schooner]

right but what is it actually doing for you other then a wee bit of damage

[amber otter]

but the damage scaling of frost claw might not be there, there's not a lot of "more" nodes

you're right

[hybrid schooner]

if you were doing an on hit frostbite dot setup sure

i thought maybe u were gettind ward from it or something

[amber otter]

no i was applying warlock brain

"hehe this trigger this trigger this go brrrr

[hybrid schooner]

i mean i guess technically it would be higher damage overall then tele, cauase of the

i didnt even see that there

[amber otter]

yea

that was how i decided to go in that

[molten cobalt]

That’s runemaster and sorc

[hybrid schooner]

alright i see

[amber otter]

but i guess its gonna be not worth it anyway

[molten cobalt]

If you do it correct

[hybrid schooner]

what do those frost claws do to your mana i wonder

do all of the extra casts proc off this as well

[amber otter]

no they dont

you need to direct cast

hence why i agree with you, really doesnt make sense to go into frost claw

for a normal hit build anyway

like this is the current state where i was preparing to go into elemental nova
then i realized. damn its already only 50% chance to proc the claw, and nova has its own percent chance, and doesnt scale off melee

[hybrid schooner]

a moba skill is too much to lose. i would honestly consider dropping flame ward for mapping maybe. ill actually try this for funsies

[amber otter]

my cooking is horrible

[hybrid schooner]

i think this node would give the claw a whole lot more punch on single target

im gonna mess with this to maybe improve mapping. idk

good to see they still burry this node behind fire/lightening nodes in the tree....

[amber otter]

oh right, i intially ignored that volley node because of the mana cost, before realizing my whole loop was basically blast until out of mana then do mana strike anyway

[amber otter]

fr........

whyyyyy

[hybrid schooner]

yaa. that was always a cuck

silly nemesis. got adhd putting 4lp on the wrong stuff

[hybrid schooner]

kek... confluence of obliviom

[woven yarrow]

I tried dmg to mana on spell blade. With just seed and t5 dmg to mana on helm, end 60%, flame ward spec for 30% dmg to mana and 2k HP I can tank most ubberoth attacks.

Might be worth on shatter strike

[hybrid schooner]

im listenning

was it a prue mana strike setup

[woven yarrow]

I posted vid in the vid channel you can check gear

[hybrid schooner]

pure

ahh

[woven yarrow]

But low investment into it works good I tgink

It was volcanic orb lol

Using a lot of mana tho

[hybrid schooner]

with my current setup i can sit in the purple puddles n shit but half the time even when i stand on his tail and he still hits me with the pizza somehow

[woven yarrow]

You just play same tho, try not to get hit but if he does, then you won't die

But last TS of dmg will still get you

Lots

[hybrid schooner]

alright let me see this video

@woven yarrowcool, im re thinking my whole life now. its just straight higher damage then shatter strike anways

[woven yarrow]

yea volcanic orb kinda nuts

with good double t7 its 2 min kill

with bad gear tho its rough

i have one on online server too but 20% worse gear than that vid and it struggles

[hybrid schooner]

whats making orbs

[woven yarrow]

you hold down orb and mana strike together

[hybrid schooner]

ok

[woven yarrow]

the freeze tech is kinda nuts th

perma freeze him sometimes

[hybrid schooner]

whats the clear like

[woven yarrow]

b ad

lol

you would need to go ranged mana strike and maybe cold static orb or make ice barrage split

but yea kinda bad

[hybrid schooner]

2lp wall is a hard pull. everything else is fine

[woven yarrow]

yea you can do the other one

Null Portent

1 lp should be fine tbh since frostbite chance is over 1k

[hybrid schooner]

prio the pen. thats a ton of pen

[woven yarrow]

yea

[hybrid schooner]

evven missing shred on gloves

[woven yarrow]

yea no need

xD

[hybrid schooner]

that sword actually prefect for this

[woven yarrow]

just wanring that its bad if you dont have similar stats in vid... (also no crit mitigation atm lol) so yea try at your own risk

especially defence stats.. its like made to just have enough haha

[hybrid schooner]

you have a link to show me how to do the offline stuff. its a lot of investment t try something wild just to see if it even works at all

[woven yarrow]

i found it on reddit.. 1 sec

https://github.com/RCInet/LastEpoch_Mods
they have a discord with instructions.

[hybrid schooner]

alright thanks

[woven yarrow]

i have 2 copies of my last epoch install so i cna swap between offline and online

its a bit of a hassel but def worth for testing things out

[hybrid schooner]

ya i was always concerned about bricking my LE or getting a ban

[woven yarrow]

i looked around and if set it to offline only you shouldnt get banned i would think. this also will not work online anyways

and many people do use, i think all maxroll creaters use aswell

[hybrid schooner]

current SS build, minus the scissor i use for mapping. i feel like uber should beobtainable with this gear. my dmage just doesnt seam to be up to par even tho i should be soind more than alost every sS uber clear ive seen.https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg7JPN9B

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (28) / Spellblade (77) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,372, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Mana: 140.71, Regen: 14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 257%, Regen: 196/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 125 Dex / 67 Int / 6 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 113% / 89% / 113% / 110% / 106% / 123% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 674
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (600)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,693)

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Teleport / Enchant Weapon

[woven yarrow]

yea thats nuts

3 lp null potent?

wow

[hybrid schooner]

ya it kinda bricked tho

[woven yarrow]

gears very nice

[molten cobalt]

bruh fix your filter

[hybrid schooner]

need to carry health on chest and crit redux helm. i have a 3lp helm i been trying to slam for a week now. forge isnt going well

[woven yarrow]

ah yea but already 3500 hp

thats like double most mage builds lol

[hybrid schooner]

ya exactly. im just a potato i guess

i think lack of cleanse on belt is a problem.

[woven yarrow]

i dont really like ur tree

tbh

i never used cleanse on belt for any of my uber kills ;/

[hybrid schooner]

the ward burst is sonething i was testing out. idk

[woven yarrow]

ah ok

[hybrid schooner]

what can i do otherwise

[woven yarrow]

yea but seems like you could squeeze like 10-20% dps with some changes maybe

[idle shard]

Is Meteor top-tier yet?

[hybrid schooner]

@idle shardnot even close

[idle shard]

😪

[hybrid schooner]

@woven yarrowill get on that SS and look at some options

what would be the highest value options in terms of damage. i pulled the extra ward burst pts, so i have 8 free rn

[woven yarrow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnDb5aVo
maybe this?

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (80) / Runemaster (13)

General:

▸ Health: 3,310, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Mana: 137.5, Regen: 14/s
▸ Ward Retention: 195%, Regen: 193/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 128 Dex / 64 Int / 6 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 113% / 89% / 113% / 110% / 106% / 123% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 662
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (614)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,693)

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Teleport / Enchant Weapon

[woven yarrow]

if you spec ur flameward full defence you should be able to tank the pizza with ur stats

oh and probably get endurance maybe

since ur hp is quite high you have a decent threshold

do you have cold shred already?

you can get blessing for that

[hybrid schooner]

i mean the cold shred comes from nib mostly, would the shred be better than the cold %

ill swap and check

oo that swaps armor, thats right

[woven yarrow]

its not on the cold blessing yea

8% armour

[hybrid schooner]

would that basically be additive on top of the nib shred

err pen. basicalyl same thing

[woven yarrow]

I forget the order but isn't it before pen? Since it's reducing resistance

[hybrid schooner]

idk. if thats 20% before the pen on shatter sstrike thats pretty huge

need to re slam a different belt. min rolls on armor and damage. its lp3 but 3rd affix bricked

i have a pile of lp2 chains

[tight wadi]

Tbh all I remember is fireball galore and extremely fast clear, no clue what corruption tho so... Lol

[slender wren]

Hey, what's the point of the Eye of Reen in this build, just crit multiplier?(I'm genuinely interested)
Also does Siphon+Schains really do that much for melee builds?

[hybrid schooner]

if you look at the 5% damage per stack of doom on belt, its a multiplier. and from my testing theres no better option than eye of reen maybe unless you just a perfect double 7 scissor. even then 200 crit multi on reen is nearly 2.5x t7 affixes worth of crit ulti

plus lp2 reen is fairly easy to come by and get ur 7/7 slams. meanwhie ive farmed hundreds of scissors a day and havent seen a 7/7 viable option

[slender wren]

Got it, what about belt and ring combo? Also huge multiplier?(and great def from belt)

[hybrid schooner]

i was talking about that exact thing with Binaqc the other day. the verdict was that its pretty much non negotiable. the armor, the multi, the leech% and leech rate

so we kind of pin holed into using the belt/ring or belt/boot

[slender wren]

What if I go for Traitor's Tongue in main hand for Flame Reave Spellblade instead of Scissor?
And what about double Sunwreath is it worth it?

[slender wren]

What boots exactly?

[hybrid schooner]

i dont want to pretent to know anything about flame reave honestly

[slender wren]

ahhh

[woven yarrow]

im playing flame reave now ^^

well sorta

[hybrid schooner]

the other item that can produce doom... BUT... 1lp is the only thing ur gonna get here

[woven yarrow]

(perma surge build)

its like got up to 21k ward

[slender wren]

With static?

[woven yarrow]

lol

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJVz5JmQ

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (62) / Runemaster (26)

General:

▸ Health: 1,619, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 173.72, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 410%, Regen: 256/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 29 Dex / 187 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 69% / 85% / 92% / 60% / 65% / 27%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 324
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (116)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,224)

Used skills:

Surge / Flame Reave / Flame Ward / Lightning Blast

[slender wren]

No CD on belt?_)

[woven yarrow]

yea

[slender wren]

There is no need or?

[woven yarrow]

you can fly across map

you need that mod on belt and 1.8 sec cd surge

[hybrid schooner]

ya the first thing i did is look at why you had so many pts in runemaster. then i saw the wand

[slender wren]

Hmm, still pretty high

[hybrid schooner]

uhhh. how

[woven yarrow]

potions

[slender wren]

I don't get it

[woven yarrow]

its mainly there to give me mana tbh

[slender wren]

204 int, holy...

Does this stacks "as much as your AS allow you to"?

This one is from Jasper's Searing Pride

[hybrid schooner]

like... this is what it looks like when you have 4k healthm null portent red ring. and you get touched by one single fireball from uber

seams reasonable

[slender wren]

So - there only 2 options:

• dodge all he have
• die in a corner

Does Uber have same attack pattern/attacks?

[nimble shoal]

Yes

[slender wren]

So much flat melee damage

[woven yarrow]

Well if you had endurance maybe you live

You were at 20% only

[slender wren]

Like - 104 spell = 104 melee

[hybrid schooner]

@woven yarrow far superior damage with these changes btw. its very significant

[woven yarrow]

Nice

[hybrid schooner]

and ya i can tank pizza ez with FS

[woven yarrow]

Nice, that makes the fight a lot easier

How many stacks of blade weaving on average?

Maybe increase/decrease

[hybrid schooner]

uhh i can go dummy test it. i get tunnel vision on uber

[woven yarrow]

For me it was around 3 ish

[hybrid schooner]

i jsut had him to 37%. if i can get him into execute range we golden

[amber otter]

aight i underestimated frost claw, this was the "massive more multiplier" all along. you can even boost it further with 2 more projectiles. and they dont just hit one target, everything they pass through gets hit as well

but yea gotta give up a utility skill

[hybrid schooner]

ya its a huge increase on damage

[amber otter]

and mana is also oof

[graceful scarab]

How far into corruption should I expect to make it on spellblade?

[amber otter]

dude above you cleared uber

[hybrid schooner]

@woven yarrow3 stacks on occasion, generally 2 stacks

[woven yarrow]

Ok so yea keep 3 I guess

[graceful scarab]

How did you know that?

[amber otter]

i was just theorycrafting some spellblade stuff with them earlier

they showed me their build

[graceful scarab]

Ohhh

[hybrid schooner]

@graceful scarabi can speak from the viewpoint of shatter strike only. if youre farming with ease around 800 youre doing really well with sb

relative eas...

[amber otter]

here's the link

[hybrid schooner]

thats mine!

[graceful scarab]

I should prolly use null

[woven yarrow]

I think dodge would be good on shatter tbh

Since you stack lots of dex

[hybrid schooner]

where would i scale the dodge from. ive considered putting on mountain shoes

[amber otter]

depending on the mana cost it might screw with one of the spellblade passives i think

[hybrid schooner]

so many stats so little places to put

[amber otter]

where you need more than 10 cost for the more multiplier

the foot of the mountain boots i mean

[slender wren]

I have a q about blade weaving:
Are you like Shatter Strike(until out of mana) then mana strike for mana and blade weaving stacks and repeat.
But isn't Shatter strike with Whiteout consume 3 stacks in one cast?

[woven yarrow]

Yea you would lose lots of HP

[hybrid schooner]

gogeba, just right click and hold down mana strike and hold down shatter strike also.

i you put mana strike on right mouse and key press ss, i know it sounds wrong but it prioritises the mand strike when out of mana. so it automatic

[woven yarrow]

wtb void well for SB

[slender wren]

Forbidden tech

[amber otter]

this passive is honestly so busted, you reach it with 2 points, all the intricate mana based balancing out the window

like they went to great lengths not to include sutff like + flat mana regen, too many - cost affixes, mana regen % scaling by max mana

and then void well

[slender wren]

I was still thinking about Flame Reave instead of SS, but god, this scaling is hard to compete with:

[woven yarrow]

yea its funny, the warrior class has better mana management the the mana class "mage"

[hybrid schooner]

whoever was asking about shatter strike swords earlier. this is a fine replacement for scissor if you cant pull a viable scissor

[slender wren]

That one guy who love mana hungry builds just said "enough is enough", and then coded that shit

[hybrid schooner]

pretty easy lp2 pull so you can slam dub 7s

@woven yarrowis there any chance that 2 pts here instead of in the cold pen node would be higher overall damage cause of more shatter strike and less mana strike. but theres also the bladweaving to consider

[rose mica]

pretty fun ^^

[woven yarrow]

yea maybe.. gotta test tho im not too sure

[slender wren]

Is it, basically, cast 5 SS and get one more for free?

(tbh, I'm not sure how the game calculates mana cost when you have both +%mana and -%mana)

[hybrid schooner]

-mana subtracts from the base cost. so anything % based is calculated after that. which is super nice for % mana cost increases

@woven yarrow tool tip is almost 14% higher than before out of combat. and then the bladeweaving and cold shred. good changes thanks. uber feels within reach right now

probaly 30% gain here

[slender wren]

I mean - you have node that give you +200%manacost and another one, that give -50%, does game transform it to +150% and then calculate final value, or?

[hybrid schooner]

hmm, ya idk

i think it probably would work like that

[slender wren]

How much SS cost you and how much points in Flow?

[hybrid schooner]

i had 0, going to try 2 pts

[slender wren]

hmm

[slender wren]

It's not

I can't get in-game value through math -_-

ahh

it's mana efficiency, not direct -mana% cost

[hybrid schooner]

@woven yarrowlast shield bar man we got this today

more damage more better

[slender wren]

Swap to last laugh? 👉 👈

[hybrid schooner]

lolol. i would but the node in SS u cant cant Ss with 2 2h on

with a 2h*

[slender wren]

Mana strike

[hybrid schooner]

o, fart

u smart

[slender wren]

sometimes xD

[hybrid schooner]

would it still one shot with the shield up??

[slender wren]

U should

Why in the world +50% mana efficiency turn 15 mana ability into 10 mana?!

[hybrid schooner]

becuase if it doesnt work with the shield up its more trouble than its worth if hes already at 25% when the shield comes down. after that its just a few seconds on chopping

[slender wren]

It should work trough shield, but you need 20% of HP in best case.

[slender wren]

you get 32.5 instead of 39, so idk

[hybrid schooner]

i think i like the 2 pts there

smoother delivery on SS casts. and i can tell its sending more shatters than 0 pts there cause stacks of bleed are a bit higher

[slender wren]

Hmm

Does whiteout even work properly when you spam ss?

Because visually it's just reset additional cast.

[modern rampart]

anybody in to cold mages? https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/graqt052 I am looking for ways to improve my cold based sorcerer. I have 2 LP ladle and a 3LP Exsanguinous in my bank. 70% of my damage comes from ice barrage which I trigger from frost claw at this moment. on top I cast volcanic orb. I feel like volcanic and flame ward are not doing much for me. what you guys reckon?

I hit empowered monoliths but I kind of struggle

happy for every help 🙂

[woven yarrow]

volcanic orb is highest dmg spell

for mage atm i think

[modern rampart]

it does not come close to my ice barrage atm

can you look in to my build and tell me where to go? 🙂

[woven yarrow]

you need to spec it to explosive ground

shrapnell is dead

[modern rampart]

ah

[woven yarrow]

i did a fire ver and frostbite you can take a look at and get ideas maybe they are in the video channel

[hybrid schooner]

would dex still be the best damage scaler over intel even while over 100% crit chance

[woven yarrow]

dex give flat dmg right>? for shatter

[slender wren]

For SS?

xD

[hybrid schooner]

is flat and mele so id asume its the higher point for point even over 100% crit

[slender wren]

2 base damage is a crime

[hybrid schooner]

would love for one of my 2lp bloody nib slams to cooperate

the question is 7/7 dex+int or dex+crit multi

[slender wren]

What int give you except ward retention ads some damage for SS?

[hybrid schooner]

actually. scrap the intel.. just cold daamage % is way higher

im such a potato dude. i have so much health and leech that i just dont move out of the way of the purple orbs when im laying into uber

id kill for a attack speed scissor with shred on it. i cant beleive i have not found this yet. my stash has pages full of them

there is this tho

[molten cobalt]

and i dont even have a shatterstrike build

[slender wren]

Wait, armor shred affect all hits, or what?

[hybrid schooner]

ya, supre nice suffixes too

hits, yes

[slender wren]

-_-

[hybrid schooner]

thats why ladel has shred

[slender wren]

My whole life was a lie

No, I dont mean applying armor shred

I mean - does shredded armor increase damage even non-physical hits/dots?

[hybrid schooner]

yes

[slender wren]

ffs

[molten cobalt]

not dots

[hybrid schooner]

would be no reason to have shred here otherwise

[slender wren]

figured

[molten cobalt]

but basically everything else yes

since almost everything is a hit

[slender wren]

Just kill me

[hybrid schooner]

70-80 shred stacks is optimal. higher than this and it dimishes pretty hard

[slender wren]

Not that it would save my Frostbite Heartseeker, but still.

Never late to learn something new, I suppose

[smoky barn]

Tbf, it took me a good while to learn about eggs in LE.

[slender wren]

?

[hybrid schooner]

bruhh the sword i just found in my stash with all viable affixes just does not have anough shred. tops out at 30 stacks... not enough

[smoky barn]

Nemesis' eggs. You can replace one of them with a 0 LP unique in your stash.

[slender wren]

Ah, yes

[latent cove]

Did they change the right part of the meteor tree to be only on direct cast?

[slender wren]

I forced my mouse to press both of them at the same time - works like a charm.

[hybrid schooner]

ye i wa gonna do that in the razer synapse. never got around to it

[slender wren]

How much dps is shown on your SS?

[hybrid schooner]

out of combat with enchant weapon on. 1.53m

top end is 4.6m in combat

[slender wren]

Haven't expected that much, tbh

[latent cove]

Is frost claw the only skill that frostbourne boots double dip on? saw a video with insane dps

Mourningfrost*

[hybrid schooner]

shatter strike too

i dont know how youd control the resist tho with 130+ dex

[woven yarrow]

well the infinate surge build turned out really good haha

its like temporalis blink builds in poe 2

[slender wren]

Have video?

[woven yarrow]

yea just uploaded it (in the vid channel)

hope ehg doesnt nerf lol

[slender wren]

xD

God.. I want that

[hybrid schooner]

das a lotta shred. flies right up to 270 stacks

[proud swift]

If I am investing in shock chance as a RuneMaster then is it also worth investing in stun chance or should I just invent in damage and penetration?

[hybrid schooner]

mmmkay so youre multiplying the potion drops and getting surge cd and ward from it yes

[slender wren]

VOrb SOrb Flame Rush, when?

[hybrid schooner]

do uber with this ples

[slender wren]

Glide over Uber xD

This guy don't even need 5 slots

[woven yarrow]

lol be like 2 hour fight

[hybrid schooner]

electric glide

[woven yarrow]

yea this can work

[slender wren]

Add Statick and make it 1h

[woven yarrow]

but mana costs...

i realy wish i can use surge as sorc

get that ward per int on potion

would be 30k ward easy

[slender wren]

Yea, especially if you decide to add Glyph

I'm actually thinking about something like that, but I don't know.

mana is the issue - and I have no clue is that should be DoT build or hit

[woven yarrow]

hmm yea

i think hit unless its something like brand

dot wont get enough stacks

[slender wren]

Fair

Hmm

[woven yarrow]

do brand ele nova with from teleport maybe

clear would be pretty sweet

[hybrid schooner]

i like pushing flame ward and it doesnt activate because mana cost

[warped crow]

lol

[slender wren]

What about Fire Aura?@woven yarrow
as res shred and damage amplifier?

[warped crow]

only place ive ever seen that used is judgement

get like 2 lp then put your own flat spell dmg and melee attack speed

[molten cobalt]

sweeter than plasma orb?

sounds hard to achieve

[slender wren]

Nah, only flame rush

[warped crow]

lol

[slender wren]

Look at a flame rush like you are Warlock.

You can trigger 3 more spells with it

[warped crow]

lol

[slender wren]

There is also can be Triboelectra+Dominance of the Tundra

🤔

[molten cobalt]

i have a real silly "issue"

[hybrid schooner]

if the hit boxes on the tri slam werent absolte donkey this would be a lot easier

just have to flame shield and tank it because the information on the screen is useless

[molten cobalt]

i cant figure out which european country to visit with my kids this summer

[left hill]

"Sir, this is a Last Epoch discord."

[molten cobalt]

yes yes

i know

[dusk sluice]

guys to confirm, does brand being triggered by initial flame rush explosion whic htriggers invocation as flame rush costs 15 mana, oooor plasma orb also can trigger brand as it says it costs 59 mana?

[molten cobalt]

both can trigger brand

but since plasma orb has a gigantic aoe it's hella lot easier than flame rush even if you take the larger aoe nodes

flame rush you also sort of gotta aim, I tried it and it was awful

[dusk sluice]

I mean I got both and considering flame rush takes lightning node, so I both brand enemies with flame rush explosion, and with every hit from plasma orb then too? very good

5 points away from shock damage increase from brand, damage should spike alot xD

[molten cobalt]

plasma orb itself does pathetic damage

it is because plasma orb applies brand to everything it touches

which is everything

[dusk sluice]

yeeee after I took brand node I felt damage insrease, was mentionig low damage for single target took that node and damage spiekd ALOT

[molten cobalt]

damage will spike even more when you swap to STR and use criterion chest

and you swap to single target invocation

[dusk sluice]

nah thats too far away to even consider Im close to only level 50~ atm and gear progression pretty slow too

[molten cobalt]

i dont know why you progress so slow

[dusk sluice]

first tiem cof quite not used to not be able go to bazar and just buy what I want xD

[molten cobalt]

cof isnt really doing all that much for a brand autobomber at lvl50 though

you should be able to progress fast without it

[dusk sluice]

1. I play an hour a day mby few (will progress bit more on weekend)
2. distraction like - discord,kids ect.
3. and just being me - found an item lets sit for 10 minutes think do I use it or not xD

[molten cobalt]

i see

[dusk sluice]

Im over all very distracting player xD run a map - check YT for next 5-10 minutes and run another map xD

[molten cobalt]

that expains it

[dusk sluice]

but I still enjoy arpg alot

over 5k hours in POE says all xD

[molten cobalt]

something tells me that 5k hours didnt get you all that far 😂

[dusk sluice]

to be fair I had suuuuper good leveling gear on bazar and run acts in aprox 4hours I think its quite good for newbie. but it was with a build that was one shotting everything xD

[dusk sluice]

lets say did get far only after aroudn 3500-4k~ 😄

[molten cobalt]

870h, but thats only from 1 league

i did play it in 2013 too but that was their own launcher and leagues didnt exist back then

[dusk sluice]

yeee it was ages when I had more than aroudn 200h a league

neither me neither friends like last dozen of leagues it becomes worse and worse

[molten cobalt]

i was very entertained, but thats because everything was new to me

i had sooooo many mechanics to figure out

[dusk sluice]

yeah theres quite a few xD

ooh I got a question though

[modern rampart]

on which slot you get volcanic orb level?

im lv 88 and havent gotten a single shard

lol

[dusk sluice]

if you might remember or not I mentioned that build version I did that had low damage with brands. it was using what was it static orb that you throw and it does damage then, and in the guide it was saying to use it because then ticks are bigger damage. so using lower damage skills like lb to trigger brand is worse because what, skill itself got lower damage therefore brand is lwoer damage oooor skill tree has less +% damage and thats why that static orb was said to be good as it has lots of % damage on tree or smth?

[molten cobalt]

not how it works

BUT

brand does inherit the stats that scale the skill that triggers brand, if brand can make use of it (hence why spell damage is still useless)

[dusk sluice]

thats where Im confused how is that lightnign web or whatever we use later are so much better than static orb so damage goes from 100k~ to what was it 10mil?

[molten cobalt]

im no expert myself

i dont think its better, or wose, not directly

but whatever you choose to activate brand you kinda have to spec into

and you still must spec into invocation due to the MASSIVE amount of resistance pen

[rose mica]

This is the top thing why merchants is good, sometimes there is good LP++ items it average price

[molten cobalt]

maybe its more of a deal where you cannot realistically fit the skill such as static orb?

because i wouldnt give up any of the skills i currently have specced

no freakin way

[dusk sluice]

idk build was around static to run and brand to clear and then switch to static orb for single target as I quote " it does more damage"

[molten cobalt]

well its quite easy to test out isnt it

you got dummies for this

[harsh abyss]

Part of the problem is that LE allows lower damage ailments to overwrite higher damage ones. So if you use static orb to do a high damage one, and then proc a LB that "refreshes" it with a lower damage one, it will just replace the higher damage one.

So you can't rely on the high damage DoT from orb if you're still automatically proccing LBs

[dusk sluice]

question is how and why static orb "does more damage"

[molten cobalt]

so thats the reason? mana guide fking it all up?

[harsh abyss]

Because triggered spells (like brand) scale with "more" multipliers from skills, and Orb has a LOT of those

Yeah

So if you just use orb, it'll work fine

But if you use orb and LB, it'll be less fine

[dusk sluice]

so I was correct jsut because skill tree of static orb has much more % damage

[molten cobalt]

but you are never just using orb, mana guide auto shoots lightning blasts

[harsh abyss]

Yeah

I mean, if you were gonna do an orb build, you probably just wouldn't do it with mana guide at all

[molten cobalt]

ouch

[harsh abyss]

OR you wouldn't spec your LB to cost 15+ mana (and thus wouldn't proc brand)

[molten cobalt]

there goes most of the EHP

[dusk sluice]

in my case we were swtiching static our of panel to ward to stop it procs and then we could use static orb only

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, presumably you can do that. People like Mana Guide because channeling Focus gives you a ton of defenses if you spec it right

And if you stop to cast orb, you'll lose those defenses and potentially die during the cast time

[dusk sluice]

yeah Im doing this version now (trying to) just was curious about all this damage scalling as of why just not run around spamming LB or smth xD

[harsh abyss]

But I bet there's a build in there that is mana stacking Orb, because you can get insane damage from having a huge mana pool. And that will all apply to brand (and create charged ground as a bonus)

So you'd want the idols that give more tendrils to static orb, so your brand will hit more things while clearing

[molten cobalt]

that doesnt sound like an improvement, for clearing

when you're already one shotting everything with plasma orb

[harsh abyss]

It wouldn't be an improvement for clearing, but you'd probably have a better time for bossing

[dusk sluice]

yeah what I didnt like with static even after I tried my best and got (I know its low but best I could do) aroudn 600% shock chance, with static orb my damage was aroudn 100-300k avg hits I believe it was 100k or Im mistaken I can go test on dummies

[molten cobalt]

until you get 1 shot from not having defenses 😄

[harsh abyss]

🤷‍♀️ Nothing says you can't use mana guide still, you'd just have to spec it for low mana cost LB instead of high mana cost LB

[molten cobalt]

600% shock chance isnt low

600% is great

diminishing returns and all

[harsh abyss]

Remember, Static Orb hits aren't getting a bonus from shock chance, only the Brand DoTs.

[molten cobalt]

you dont really want much more than this

then other stats scale harder

[rugged shell]

diminishing returns.

[dusk sluice]

Im afraid Im lying will go double check both shock chance adn damage 😄

[molten cobalt]

out of increased damage, lightning penetration and shock chance i get most damage from increased damage at this point

[harsh abyss]

The real boost that static orb gets is the Mana Cost to More damage. With 2000 mana, it's a 400% More damage multiplier, which stacks with the More multiplier from shock chance for brand.

Which is obviously huge

[dusk sluice]

build guide was not stacking mana in any way I think

[harsh abyss]

IDK what build guide you're using, so 🤷‍♀️ I just know what Brand does. I think there's a mana stacking brand version in there using Wall of Nothing + Cerulean Runestones

[molten cobalt]

why wont the game let me port to arena?

tells me game version is out of date?

but it isnt

oh

[rose mica]

2000?? show me that lol

[dusk sluice]

patch

[molten cobalt]

they literally this second released a hot patch

😂

[rose mica]

new clinet mean an update

[dusk sluice]

and Im sorry I was lying xD my dps was 500-600k with static orb on avg sometimes more with crits but its avg and I had 767 shock chance 😄

[molten cobalt]

767 is already too high

it's inefficient

[dusk sluice]

I think build guide had 800+

so idk was doing what was said in there

but yeah damage was only 500k on avg

[harsh abyss]

I have a sorcerer with 2400 mana right now, and my gear isn't even very good, heh

[molten cobalt]

per tick?

[dusk sluice]

yeah I throw static orb and it tiks for 500-600k ticks

with static skill auto LB by just running ticks arre smth like 250k ~

[rose mica]

Da fak, I have LP2/3 build and still working about. And have 450~ xD

[harsh abyss]

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oPZ9GvJQ

[dusk sluice]

just saw 700k tick. so okay a500-700k avg

[rose mica]

Im gonna look at it but I play auto casting meteor build

[harsh abyss]

Oh yeah, different builds definitely

You don't need a huge mana pool for meteor autocast

[dusk sluice]

1m tick damn xD wasnt as bad as I thought it was xD but still felt suuuuuper slow on bosses

[harsh abyss]

The whole point of my build was to try a mana stacking mana guide build

[rose mica]

exacly, Im investing in crit multi+lightin dmg+spell dmg following to mana regen

[harsh abyss]

Though tbh the brand mana stack build kinda sounds interesting

Yeah, you don't want huge mana as long as you can stay above 400 mana for auto-crits for meteor

I, on the other hand, want as much mana as I can get

Because of the damage from Focus

[dusk sluice]

either way thansk guys for examplainign wanted to understand better scaling stuff. time to go level bit further and try to finish acts

[rose mica]

why do u use orginal set staff? its weak. U can make it with some T7 staff

[harsh abyss]

The set staff is basically a double T7 staff with good rolls. It's better than any I've crafted so far

[rose mica]

ahh I see now... mana and light dmg

[harsh abyss]

And I don't care as much about flat damage from a higher tier base, since most of my flat damage comes from mana

[molten cobalt]

though thats not fair since its a dummy 😂

[harsh abyss]

Eventually I'll want to swap to a good Spoon, but I need some other upgrades to make that worth it.

[molten cobalt]

with 45 runic energy

[rose mica]

Im going there right now 😄 hold my bear

[harsh abyss]

Just a cool 35m damage, nbd

[molten cobalt]

unrealistic though

since that would only be first brand

lets see what i get with no runic stacks

still aint bad

that was 4 runic energy, as far as it got after being reset

[rose mica]

I'd enjoy it because of +1 skill and the main affix for my build which here is CM. I still looking for better one but is hard

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, for sure. That's a good eventual upgrade. My build doesn't actually even need the Vilatria set ultimately. I'm just using it currently because it's very generically strong.

The double T7 mana and lightning damage on the default set is just very good for the build

[dusk sluice]

yeah thats why Im here and trying to make this version still not sure where the hell all this extra what 34mil coming from but will find out eventually mby xD

[rose mica]

And this is my best change at all in building. I hate the crab ring! I just used to using evade in this game 😄 totally recomended Litah ring so u get a space for other affixes for ur build than resistances

BUT when u lose right click holding u are dead hahaha

[molten cobalt]

except i got res nowhere other than red rings and shield

oh and 2 small idols, sorry

using liath ring would be a huge downgrade

[dusk sluice]

how do we even get so many runic energy? if Im not mistaken on the tree its like +4 or smth I think Im running with 5 or 6 atm max

[molten cobalt]

yeah thats why i said the 35mil was unrealistic

since thats after runic energy gets to 45

basically only useful for first hit on a boss

[harsh abyss]

Alright, I'm feelin it, gonna try the "Zerax version" of static orb brand

I'll let you know how it goes

[rose mica]

fk me, not even in half of half hahha

[molten cobalt]

not even 10% dude

[rose mica]

sad :S

[molten cobalt]

you didnt even get 1 million

[rose mica]

with static 200 stacks will be 1m++ but I cannt stack it on arena :P\

[molten cobalt]

even so

18mil with no runic energy

maybe you thought it said 1.8mil 😂

[rose mica]

So as so Im glad you show me that, now I have boost to work about this build 😄

I see potential here as fk. Just lose 10% m. speed while chanelling but get nice resistances so I can change res idols for offensife idols 😄

[molten cobalt]

yeah i dont have a single medium idol with res

they all look like this

i do have a bunch of the one with damage instead of ward though

[harsh abyss]

@molten cobalt Do you use ladle for your brand build? Does the More spell damage from it apply to the brand?

[hybrid schooner]

no and no

[molten cobalt]

cleaver

im STr stacking

and no spell dmaage cannot apply to brand

brand has 0 spell dmaage to scale to begin with

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I was curious if it might inherit more/increased spell damage from the spell that applies it

[molten cobalt]

sadly nope

[harsh abyss]

ah well

[hybrid schooner]

nemmy handing out all kinds of random lp4s today

[harsh abyss]

I've always wanted to do a build with that but not being able to gain ward during combat just feels so brutal

[hybrid schooner]

anyone ever egged an item and had it go 1lp on the first hit, and 3 lp on the next hit?

as opposed to 2lp, and then 3

[molten cobalt]

sure

had it go to 3lp on first go as well

[hybrid schooner]

damn what item was that

[molten cobalt]

both mana guide and cleaver

not that common though, I have egged soooo many mana guides and cleavers

[hybrid schooner]

im still holding a 3lp mana guide from like the first day of that build. never got a good slam

[molten cobalt]

same, got 2 3lp mana guides

and 2 3lp cleavers

[hybrid schooner]

the reason i ask is becuase when i see 1lp after the first hit i know its already shot. never goes higher when its at 1

[molten cobalt]

yeah thats not true

but it is tied to ordinary LP chance though

and on most items even 2lp is pretty low chance

[south yoke]

bruh should i wait for 2ble t7 at least isn't?

[hybrid schooner]

i would personally. like a perfect 4 affix item with viable stats on it. cause if you dont take care with every affix and it gets the one you didnt want it may as well be a fancy lp2

that one there is not a practical item to farm lp3 either. i would take care

lp3 slams stress me out. 2lps are simple. double t7, you either hit it or not

[sinful stag]

is there any build using reowyns fortress?

i just dropped a 4 LP

[lunar crest]

I know Hydra builds use it.

[wet cape]

What's a healthy amount of ward to be able to sustain for normal abberoth?

[hybrid schooner]

mage? what kind of build. really is relative

id say if youre a pure ward setup with no other defenses and 1500 health. like 10k ward

[harsh abyss]

it also depends on how you recover your ward

[hybrid schooner]

oyy normal aberoth

normal easy

[harsh abyss]

10k ward but you can't get it back easily is worse than 5k ward that you can recover instantly

[slender wren]

10k ward for normal abb?!

[wet cape]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApEGL2mQ

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (30) / Sorcerer (29) / Runemaster (54)

General:

▸ Health: 1,975, Regen: 29.6/s
▸ Mana: 207.51, Regen: 11.36/s
▸ Ward Retention: 280%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 93 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 243% / 163% / 93% / 63% / 75% / 74% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 395
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (680)
▸ Block Chance: 80%, Mitigation: 34% (897)

Used skills:

Frost Claw / Runic Invocation / Runebolt / Glyph of Dominion / Flame Ward

[wet cape]

This is my build

Also curious what adjustments could make it better

[hybrid schooner]

whats up with your armor, thatst crazy low

[wet cape]

I have double that from soulfire

[hybrid schooner]

you got 2 thrones of ambition on. they dont stack

[slender wren]

Double Throne of Ambition??

[wet cape]

They don't stack the more multi? I realize they don't give more stacks but thought they'd both provide the more multi per stack

[hybrid schooner]

no

[wet cape]

Why not

[hybrid schooner]

just doesnt work like that. at best maybe itll stack faster

[wet cape]

It says on the idol 'if you have multiple thrones of ambition you will only gain one stack' why even state this if they don't work with multiple

[hybrid schooner]

im tryna figure out what this build is. you got fire damage and dot relic on. but ur frost claw is not fire

so youre trying to frostbite froastclaw yes?

[wet cape]

Frost claw is used to generate heo runes quickly for aergons mirror bolt

[hybrid schooner]

ok. then im out of my area of experience right now

[slender wren]

This ability have weird effect.

[wet cape]

I realize I should have a video of the gameplay as it can seem confusing

[nimble shoal]

Because technically speaking, that is the only stat actually on the idol, the rest is explaining what the buff does

Could be clearer of course

[hybrid schooner]

nah, id have 4 of them on then

[slender wren]

Would be cool but busted af

[wet cape]

Weird, well there would just be ignite idols in there instead then similar to the other 1x2's I have

[slender wren]

How often do you use invocation?

[wet cape]

As often as I can, if im on target dummy I can probably cast it once a second. I'm almost constantly casting mirror bolt or igneous rain

[slender wren]

In that case - move 2-3 points from here:

Also, Aergon's Mirror Bolt isn't Area invo

So this one do nothing

[wet cape]

The igneous is though, and sometimes I cast shit too fast where greater fireball is cast

[slender wren]

You mentioned only bolt, so yea

[wet cape]

Sorry said it here at end

[slender wren]

Ahh, my bad

[wet cape]

Shit gets hectic and greater fireballs come out often enough. Even taking out those points I wouldn't even know what would be effective comparatively to move them to

[slender wren]

This

But no, you a ignite stackig, yes?

[wet cape]

Yeah mostly, but any added damage with my invocation is still a net gain right? I had ignored those for a bit because of thinking entirely about ignites but those could still be better

[slender wren]

Well, it is still better then "nothing"

since - you don`t really need to have 12 second buff

Can't sleep because of this thing:

[smoky barn]

Trying to understand how your build works cause I haven't seen something like this before and I'm legit curious. Are you like a life leech focused fire runecaster of sorts?

[wet cape]

Sorry I wish I had a video, figured this would happen 😅 my first time playing the game and have been happy with what I've been able to homebrew for my first build

Frost claw for heo generation, i can teleport onto packs/bosses and drop a glyph, into mirror bolt. Repeat this rotation into a second glyph and mirrorbolt . While the glyphs are placed i cast frost claw into runebolt for mirror bolt or igenous depending on what i need, continue spamming combo for mirror bolt until my glyphs have ended then repeat pretty much

I get upwards of 11k ward and ~800 stacks of ignite

[slender wren]

Have you tried to use Aergon's Plasma Arc for ignite stacking?

[wet cape]

Don't know how I'd generate gon rune though, I had been using lightning focus when I had mana problems before but channeling sucks

[slender wren]

🤔

[wet cape]

I guess i could spec out of the lightning blocker for runebolt

Wait no it would still alternate

[slender wren]

+-

That will be F L F

and you need L L F

But..

[wet cape]

Still don't know how I'd generate a gon rune, without messing with the consistency of being able to cast mirror bolt which is my main ward generator

Iunno l will try out the dual runebolt later and see how plasma blast feels at least

[slender wren]

For ward ppl always used Reowyn's Frostguard, but idk

[wet cape]

Pure lightning could work too if I wanted to generate two runes, would force me to be casting glyphs more often tho for rah runes and its nice just putting them down and forgetting for a bit

[slender wren]

That thing was broken:

[wet cape]

I've tried frostguard and it just didn't seem to generate much ward. But I should probably fit it in as often as I can at least since its a 13s duration

I'm standing in the middle of packs so the mirrorbolt ricochet go ham

[slender wren]

In that case, you will be having like four different evos to cast, which seems like too much

[wet cape]

Thanks for the discussion/suggestions. Look forward to trying out the changes to incorporate plasma blast into the build

[slender wren]

Welcome!

Still haven't found build for myself

[wet cape]

This build is all I've played so i can't give much for suggestions 😅 it has gone thru a ton of itterations recently, but it has been a ton of fun

[slender wren]

I played Frostbite Heartseeker with Puncture. But hit a wall recently.

Like - I was able to kill normal Abby, but clearing maps at 300c isn't enjoyable(slow and ez to die).

[wet cape]

Actually realized that the fire/lightning runebolt wouldn't work since combo always starts fire, and I'd typically be interrupting combo with invocations

If im at 400 corruption should I just stop being a pussy/lazy and try normal abby

[slender wren]

Yep

[slender wren]

Yep, he's funny

[broken pecan]

my favorite mage build last season no longer works, I don't like shatter strike having to be in melee, have tried a few autobombers but they end up taking forever to do bosses... not sure where to go from here

[hybrid schooner]

meh my autobomber kills 2500 corr boss in about 5-10 seconds

[broken pecan]

must not be the one I used then.

[wet cape]

How do autobombers work in this context

[broken pecan]

hold focus, everything dies?

maybe flame rush for additional boom? shrugs

[hybrid schooner]

playing it wrong the focus does not do any dmage

[broken pecan]

probably wasn't even the same build

[hybrid schooner]

doesnt sound like it

bro what are you suppose to do when uber puts the fure on the ground. if youre even remootely nearby the thing he keeps jumping into it

and fkn mele so cant do anything about it

[broken pecan]

yeah I wanna stand back and hit things from three miles away (or at least half the screen)

[hybrid schooner]

ya thats normally how i play. this game just punishes mele. especailly when they gutted the only natural layer of defense that spallblade has

[broken pecan]

I play melee on sentinel and primalist but they have absurd block or leech, so I need ranged with mage

[hybrid schooner]

half the passive tree and a lot of the skill nodes are just dead useless rn. they gen ward but it doesnt amount to anything

[broken pecan]

but no idea what to build

[hybrid schooner]

at any rate im getting close with this char on uber. getting into the last circle. 25% on hp and half way on his shield.

[broken pecan]

might just have to play hydradeon, glacier feels like BIG NUMBERS ... every 3 to 5 business days

[uneven ember]

mans summoning pokemon in le

[broken pecan]

arguably more useful than the actual hydrahedron

[night cedar]

Is a spark charge frost claw sb capable of uberroth? Dropped a 4lp claw and was hoping

[harsh abyss]

Spark charge fc is dead

Removed entirely in the season 2 patch

You cant get the 100% chance to trigger spark charges via FC from the sorcerer tree any more.

[broken pecan]

killed my favorite build they did

no more zap'n'bees

[night cedar]

Damn

Well

Guess it sits in stash

Maybe frost claw will return next cycle

[amber otter]

there was this posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0JclZMTujU

its still frost claw at least

[night cedar]

Yeah that’s true

Guess I have the dex red rings already

[broken pecan]

blerrrf, build decisions, Do I go bakc to ARPG's raiden build or do I find some other autobomber/walking simulator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoEDXhYtk1U or this thing from FrozenSentinel

[lunar crest]

@hybrid schooner Is there a way for us to see the effects of Reen's Ire? When I check character stats, multiplier doesn't change. Is it bugged?

[zenith wraith]

is 3lp dragorath claw good? dropped one while playing my FG

maybe i should do a spellblade

[rose mica]

valueless 😛

[rose mica]

lul not bad 😄

[woven yarrow]

Dragoraths ver is a lot worse than caster spark charge. About 50% less dmg or so

[harsh abyss]

Yeesh, I can see why people like the brand of deception build. Pretty mid tier gear and I'm already hitting dummies for 6-12 million?

[midnight pine]

Anyone know if this node on firebrand allow you to hit 3 times if we are enough close from the bosses ? ^^

[harsh abyss]

Doubtful, but I've never tried it.

[sacred flume]

anyone playing pinchingloafs lightning blast runemaster? what affix should i imprint on orian belt

[hybrid schooner]

damn that dagger use to be a hot item, what happened. thats why i dont play mg. you get excited about heading to the market to sell your stuff to find out you been carrying around dookies in your bag.

[molten cobalt]

you cant imprint an affix

you can enchant a unique with affixes though

just follow the guide you mention?

[hybrid schooner]

yuhh, imprinting relics is the worst. even if its a mage specifc impint it drops other class relics

[solemn linden]

What’s the best mage speed clear build

[hybrid schooner]

hmm. theres a few. if nothing else we have some good clear at decent corr

[solemn linden]

Like what build

[hybrid schooner]

if you do the strength stack tpose, but basically use dex its super fast

only reason for the dex is cause the invocation we use durring clearing only scales off dex, and the single target invocation scales off strength

even if you dont use any dex its stil super fast

[zenith wraith]

well, nothing to be too excited about them

thanks

[molten cobalt]

brand autobomber

[hybrid schooner]

rip, f this crafting system

make stuff impissibly rare, spend weeks farming for and then ruin it

[amber otter]

yea tbh when i went into this game i heard about the magic crafting system and shit, fair and all up to 1-2LP i suppose

which i guess is where most normal people stop

try to push beyond that and its just as bad

[hybrid schooner]

i guess just play mg and open up the wallet

dont know why things are so rare considering the chance that its never going to make it through the craft process

uhh these guys are all saying they are slammig items and its adding lp to it

[amber otter]

i wish, thanks nemy

also the rest of my gear is embarrassing yes, this was a lucky drop at 100C (no prophecy), sometimes things just happen i guess

[hybrid schooner]

youll get there

are you tryn run double RR. i dont like double red ring

[amber otter]

probably not on this character

siphon seems good

[hybrid schooner]

i you go double ring you bsaically have to wear the stymied boots and they dont have and dex/int/health. and you wont get better than 1lp

do you lose eitehr cdr or move speed

in addition to dex/int/vitality

and with that. double red ring and your definitely not zat 100% crit chance

[amber otter]

CDR actually being so important was surprising to me, because enchant weapon is insane

you could get to 100% uptime but its so hard

the boot LP affixes are so strained

[hybrid schooner]

yup. its like a 2.5x multiplier whic hurts a lot when its down for 6 seconds

[amber otter]

need both movespeed and CDR, no room for stats

[hybrid schooner]

yup

i had a 3lp slam on a pair of these but of couse i didnt get the cdr

so... brick

and its not like u can just go "farn" another 2lp

3lp..

IMo these boots are the best qol for general play. move speed much better

[amber otter]

yea i was considering mountain but the movespeed

at first i thought the bleed was the most important

but its like these boots fit into every build

[hybrid schooner]

i would only say mountain boots for bossing imo. id like a 3lp pair myself. dex/move/cdr

ya, and you still get your priority damage dtats

i wll not map without these boots. anything else and your crawling

already hurts that i dont have acces to haste

i guess stymie boots have hasete. but again 1lp at best so no cr

[smoky barn]

I get my haste from runebolt + teleport to refresh the haste duration.

[amber otter]

also, with regards to frost claw for shatter strike, think ive spent enough time with it to figure out: it's not worth it

1. The insane second/third cast nodes for x15 hits are locked to direct cast only
2. Mana efficiency is locked behind fire/lightning conversion
3. You're forced to take the heavy mana cost nodes for this to be worth considering at all, but honestly even at base mana cost its already kinda heavy

So you create this anti synergy, frost claw doesn't proc when you're out of mana, but when you have mana you're spending it on this weak spell 50% of the time instead of more shatter strike attacks.

all that for kinda underwhelming damage looking at the dummy, even with the melee->spell scaling. with enchant weapon active 3x crits on shatter are like 100k damage each = 300k. Frost claw procs for 8k x 5 = 40k.

gotta full send on frost claw to make it worth it

[hybrid schooner]

ya i would drop it

its a considerable passive pt investment as well

[spare glen]

new glacier version 4 min uber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9EN3MLaQtw and dummy kill 77 sec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SA_1cIJObE no double t7/uber /crazy lp items

[amber otter]

yea 5 points on the tree, not worth it, i might try the fire aura for cold shred bonus thing. otherwise ill just dump it into int/ward/health not much else to take

[amber otter]

ayo, you cooked, given the int and cast speed wouldn't ladle be nice too?

[hybrid schooner]

all the fire aura stuff is a hige investment. its definitely not worth

crazy amount of pts to even get it going

i mean i gues it takes 3 to get the shred and cold conversion. then get the fire aura on mele hit

[amber otter]

xd, need this to cap 10 stacks kinda consistently, but it still needs some ramp up

[hybrid schooner]

8 pts

actually 12 pts

you have to get the cold conversion

or ur shredding fire res

[amber otter]

ah but flame ward* converts for you doesnt it

it shreds cold from my testing

flame ward sorry* global conversion

[spare glen]

no, you need flat and speed is tricky on this build u dont need more than 110% unless u get 200%+

[hybrid schooner]

oh i see

i use this for shred. do not need the extra armor

[amber otter]

the problem is its shred chance per second and not shred chance per hit,

[amber otter]

this is so much better lmao

[hybrid schooner]

i was using the armor until yesteday. but i have 3400-3800 health depening on what im wearing. and 4400 armor otu of combat

shred was a big dmage boost cuase i didnt have any

i should have 4500 health but both lp3 slams bricked...

[amber otter]

game is hard

[hybrid schooner]

lets make a turd

[molten cobalt]

you got the weaver reroll node?

[hybrid schooner]

as far as i know it doesnt reroll the affix type

[molten cobalt]

oh, bummer

never tested it as i dont use weaver items

[dull cairn]

whats the best frostbite build for mage in s2

[hybrid schooner]

@dull cairnnot sure. probably some form of volcanic orb setup. bigdaddy posted a video yesteday in the video section

maybe but no shred so garbo

[flint heart]

Can Spellblade dual wield?

[hybrid schooner]

yup

but naturally we take more damage. supre cool

[flint heart]

Awesome tyvm

[dull cairn]

@woven lark yo following your maxroll S2 frostbite sorc guide, Saw in S1 its a runemaster - why the pivot to sorc for s2

[hybrid schooner]

are there idols that have crit multi on them? which ones if so

[molten cobalt]

yeah

the stout one

crit chance + crit dmg weaver affix

i believe there is a crit multi while dual wielding as well

nvm thats rogue only

[hybrid schooner]

i see it thanks

i really dont have a lot of flex in my idols right now anyways. its muddied up with void/phys res to get 115 for null portent

meh, 2x lp4 relics off the same proph. garbage

[molten cobalt]

cant even bring myself to log in

browsing vacation to turkey

but i always have such a difficult time deciding

[lunar crest]

Yo @hybrid schooner do Reen's Ire stacks not reflect in character page?

My multiplier doesn't seem to change regardless of my stacks.

[hybrid schooner]

it will on tooltip when you start attacking

[lunar crest]

I must've been looking at the wrong place.

Finally got a 2 LP Reen.

[hybrid schooner]

nice

[lunar crest]

And 2 LP Nihilis. 🙏🏻

[hybrid schooner]

uhh, i like to stand and hold down the buttons with mouse over the tooltip and whack it ofr a while to see the top end

the crit multi definitely shows up there

[lunar crest]

Do you do it on the training dummy?

[hybrid schooner]

ya if you stand right above a dummy its hit it with the mous over tooltip. ton use the multi dummy or the damage will be wild cause of extra bleed stacks