🧙┃mage

[molten cobalt]

flame rush > invocation > brand

[dusk sluice]

that way, and his doing it differently ya said?

[molten cobalt]

he uses a diff invocation for bosses

which means his elemental converts need to be diff

so he has slightly diff skill nodes

thats all

[dusk sluice]

whats the point? flame rushing and just doing invocation seems okay

[molten cobalt]

whats the point of what

[dusk sluice]

of doing it differently, he uses more skills or smth

[molten cobalt]

matter of personal taste

i noticed when fighting uberroth covenant arc can somewhat easily miss

[dusk sluice]

need to see his gameplay video to see what he uses, using just flame rush sounds perfectly ideal

[molten cobalt]

you have to sort of aim it

so thats yet another thing to keep track of when fighting an already obnoxious boss

lightning web fixed that

[molten cobalt]

both of us just use flame rush

the diff is what flame rush triggers, when fighting bosses

his way works fine

[dusk sluice]

oh I see lightnign web need lightning/cold/lightning so ya what use LB > flamerush >lb and the ninvocation for the brand?

[molten cobalt]

i use flame ward + frost wall + flame rush for lightning web

[dusk sluice]

aaah, all these invocations destroying my brain 😄

[molten cobalt]

i think you are focusing on something not important

[dusk sluice]

I mean remembering what order to click skills all the time is important 😄

[molten cobalt]

except its not important at all

its completely irrelevant in fact

[outer sinew]

how are rm and sorc this season

[molten cobalt]

compared to what

[viral helm]

for shatterstrike, if im standing close to a mob and use shatter strike and they are inside the outside zone does it still do full dmg?

[dusk sluice]

ooooooooooooh damn didnt know about it 😄

okay amazing then I guess, got the plan now will need to find time to start it and see how it goes on cof xD

[outer sinew]

I have a warlock and bladedancer rn

But idk

[molten cobalt]

mage is weakest class atm

[outer sinew]

damn, guess that makes sense

warlock not that strong either I guess it’s just peak physical build season

[harsh abyss]

This has been out for a little while I think. But also, with Lightning you can use Triboelectra to get +3 levels, which is pretty decent

[weary hamlet]

sure but that forces you to use ignivar's, which narrows the itemization down way too much

[harsh abyss]

All that says to me is we need more good catalysts

Though, you could use a Fragment for another +1 lightning level

[desert hill]

for lightning blast whit spark charge is better sorcerer or runemaster? please help 😫

[potent echo]

This is just a visual effect (and a consequence of taking all the +area nodes), there's no sweet spot or anything.

All mobs in range take full damage

[rustic gulch]

Depends on your goal.

Sorc is more dmg and runemaster is tankier

Uber has been killed on both versions.

[weary hamlet]

tough sell for how the developers are going so far - and so far, I mean, ever since the catalyst rework 3 years ago

not to mention the inherent issues in scaling a direct dot spell

[lost grotto]

well you can do flamethrower node so now cast speed doesn't matter as much. But I figure anything more late game focused would not be using flamethrower, as you can't scale #hits/second

[next lance]

how did u get strength and lightning pen on your armor

@molten cobalt

there is no str t7 on mage armors and i cant put lightning pen on others i dont get it

oh wait there is this echo thing where u can reroll attributes i forgot

[molten cobalt]

bingo

[hardy pilot]

is there any way to make fireball explode in a big AoE?

[lost grotto]

ik it's not fireball, but meteor has some nodes that do that

[hardy pilot]

my issue there is that I'm trying to put together a lightning based plasma ball build, but currently feel like I'm lacking in regards to AoE

there isn't any way to convert meteor to lightning damage, so I need an alternative

[weary hamlet]

vilatria's set staff/shard converts meteor

[potent echo]

There is if you're willing to use an exalted staff

I've been playing with the idea of trying lightning meteor, I never got to try it back in early access bc getting the set was a pain.

[hardy pilot]

oh hey, I missed that on that

I actually got the full set just recently horray for CoF rank 4 perk!

[potent echo]

Yeah CoF perk actually super useful there because the helm is naturally crazy rare

But the staff is common and whoops now you get the helm for free

[hardy pilot]

unfortunately, I am currently not high enough level to use the staff

I'm currently level 27

need to be level 46

[next lance]

aight nice but how do u create the helmet??

[molten cobalt]

painfully

you shatter vilantria helmet for the shard

then slap it on like any other shard

do some havocing to land t7 on it

and then run out of forging potential so the suffixes always suck ass

[next lance]

that must be the worst part

doing this shit last

[molten cobalt]

getting any random t7 vilantria helmet isnt so bad

but if you also want t7 str it gets kinda bad

and on a specific base too, usually

[next lance]

does my exalted have to be the name vilantria helmet? or do u mean if i put the shard on a helmet it becomes vilantria?

[molten cobalt]

it gets that name after you craft on the shock mod that you got from shattering the set item

[balmy drift]

can anyone help me make a shatter strike spell blade build? it's my first time playing and I just finished the campaign

[molten cobalt]

unless you specifically love that skill, for some reason, don't

mage is not where you go for a melee build

[balmy drift]

i have been messing around with mage and sentinel and it's my favorite thing so far but I don't really know how to make a build or where to look

[molten cobalt]

start with googling for shatterstrike uber aberroth

a mage build that kills uberroth has some oompfh for sure

[hardy pilot]

or make sure you have the suffixes you want when you pick up the item and just don't forge it at all if it doesn't

that is also an option

[molten cobalt]

im sure the people uploading videos on that also have their build and or guide linked

[molten cobalt]

then I would not have a helmet

[hardy pilot]

you can get the set to T5 and leave some forging potential for suffixes

Use that helmet while you find a helmet that rolls the suffixes you want on drop

[balmy drift]

can I ask what makes shatter strike bad?

i really like spell blade so I'll do anything

maybe a thunder based build

[molten cobalt]

t5 is unacceptable and likley eats more FP than havocing it to t7

[hardy pilot]

better than no helmet at all

you can have an imperfect item that is "good enough" while you work to get that perfect item

it's not an all or nothing deal

[molten cobalt]

it can do uberroth with some effort but it is rather shit for everything else

it is by no means an overall build

[molten cobalt]

well my current helm has t7 STR and t7 vilatria, that is my idea of a "good enough" helmet

[balmy drift]

what spell blade build would be good overall?

[molten cobalt]

none

[balmy drift]

💔

gg

[potent echo]

Spellblade has defensive issues, it's VERY squishy without good gear and even with it you'll cap out quite a bit lower than other builds. If you want to play it though someone linked their setup in here a bit ago, lemme see if I can find it

[balmy drift]

that would be great thank you

[molten cobalt]

^ which is why I said unless you specifically like the skill/build

[potent echo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXD8nlDo courtesy of Skrrizzle, this is what he was running for mapping. For relic you'd run Diothan's Bloody Nib for bosses (or always to start since you're not gonna have Shattered Worlds starting out)

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (25) / Spellblade (80) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,021, Regen: 30.42/s
▸ Mana: 183.32, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 267%, Regen: 183/s
▸ Attributes: 33 Str / 141 Dex / 62 Int / 16 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 72% / 85% / 117% / 77% / 125% / 86%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 604
▸ Dodge Chance: 22% (731)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 57% (3,971)

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Surge / Enchant Weapon

[potent echo]

Maxroll also has a shatter strike guide that'd go into more detail about the skills & gear options although I don't necessarily 100% agree with their choices.

[tawdry remnant]

anyone know any real builds that center on lightning blast, doesn't seem likely these days but just curious

i know there's a handful that proc it seperately but you never know

[balmy drift]

alright tysm, im gonna mess around for a little and see if i like any other moves besides shatterstrike

[potent echo]

I know flame reave was a build back in early access but I'm guessing it hasn't scaled well since I haven't seen a single mention of it

Shame bc it's a very neat skill

[molten cobalt]

not really as a main damage dealer

it has been done, but it aint very efficient

[tawdry remnant]

yeah i kinda figured as much

ty

[balmy drift]

is there any other skill i shoudl do for spellblade that would be better than shatterstrike?

[potent echo]

Nothing that's gonna be more effective. Shatter strike has a great tree to scale it as a primary skill.

[balmy drift]

ah alright

ty

[potent echo]

The issues it has aren't with shatter strike, they're core to spellblade itself

(And kinda mage as a whole tbh, they're just more visible on a melee build)

[static bluff]

new player here, does spellblade have any scalability with flame reave/firebrand or anything able to use fire?

[proper hawk]

I would actually mention spark charge mana strike, you need the fragment of the enigma unique for it though

not saying its better than shatterstrike mind you

but its a fun build thats reasonably good and has great clear

[balmy drift]

tryna send a builder link 🔥 ?

[proper hawk]

I don't have a planner or guide sorry

[balmy drift]

aw ok

i found this on yt https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bj4GGN1A

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (63) / Runemaster (23)

General:

▸ Health: 1,437, Regen: 22.72/s
▸ Mana: 236.5, Regen: 9.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 430%, Regen: 277/s
▸ Attributes: 13 Str / 27 Dex / 196 Int / 7 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 162% / 101% / 72% / 79% / 99% / 67%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 287
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (183)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,512)

Used skills:

Frost Claw / Lightning Blast / Flame Ward / Enchant Weapon / Mana Strike

[balmy drift]

is this good

[proper hawk]

basically you use fragment of the enigma, and take everything that says intelligence, and melee attack speed

that planner should technically work but imo it makes some strange choices

[craggy crest]

I DID IT YES

I finally got a red ring to drop

took me way longer than I thought it would

[proper hawk]

hell yeah

[craggy crest]

No LP tho 😔 , and im to scared to slam it in the egg

[uncut zealot]

Why it can’t brick

[proper hawk]

just slam it in the egg, get a random crap affix, and imprint on weaver tree, it counts as 1LP for imprints

[craggy crest]

oh it does?!

that's good to know then...will slam it in the egg then

[proper hawk]

yeah legendaries count as LP = # of legendary affixes

[craggy crest]

I didn't know if it counted them when it already had the affixes

[potent echo]

That'd be awful if it didn't

Although imprints don't update with the item so you'd be fine as long as you didn't need to swap it out

[craggy crest]

I'll need to swap it out for a 20% res one

but all I care about at this point was getting just one....and the DR, finally cancels out the passive tree damage taken

[hearty chasm]

im finally able to do 600c with my hydra runemaster, slowly getting there... ToT

[next lance]

wait it matters if i have 1lp or 0lp in weaver tree?

[proper hawk]

yep, higher lp imprints make it more likely to get LP

[next lance]

bruuh i had 1 lp ring all the time but i didnt use it there

but u say i can just put legendary in it

[next lance]

u play attunement?

i played this shit till like 1.2k u make lots of dmg but everything just 1 shots u and thats mad annoying

[hearty chasm]

yep, i think ill be happy if i reach 1k xp

[next lance]

that u will do for sure

[hearty chasm]

im just wondering how soon can i do this, i currently have both red rings with t7 attunement slam, i have 3lp staff, body armor, box and belt in my stash while im trying to farm for exalted relics to slam, getting omnis to drop a with a lp and a good roll is hell, everything im using right now at least have a 1 t7 slam

[next lance]

do u use frost wall snapshot?

[next lance]

https://youtu.be/Wh1j8qkq5Pk?si=TbHLTpyaMgELcfi5 she explains how to do it

[hearty chasm]

im following this build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZVhMpi6H0&ab_channel=Stoyven

[next lance]

yea watch the video ive sent she explains how to use the frost wall snapshot, you will do 300+% dmg that way

[next lance]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKrE220o and copy this guys gear, blessings, idols, skills passives etc

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (30) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,280, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 335.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 341%, Regen: 173/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 22 Dex / 113 Int / 92 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 112% / 78% / 87% / 89% / 142% / 88%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 256
▸ Dodge Chance: 48% (1785)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,974)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 70%

Used skills:

Flame Ward / Runic Invocation / Frost Wall / Flame Rush / Runebolt

[next lance]

but i would recommend playing some strength build instead of this, you will still do crazy dmg but tank way more

[hearty chasm]

i was actually following her guide before, for some reason i cant tell if the snapshot is active, also i dont find that gameplay engaging. If my understanding is correct with the snapshot, its just a permanent buff from frostwall without constantly going frostwall all the time ?

[next lance]

ye u just keep spamming hydras then and they melt everything

u can tell by the dmg u do xd

without it my hydras were doing 40-50k hits snd with it it was 400-500

[hearty chasm]

if im going through FW before flamerushing anyway, wouldnt the summoned hyrda still have the buff ?

[next lance]

im not that deep into it i just know it worked for me

u need t7 armor and helmet with fw duration

put it down and flame rush through it near the end of it

then just swap your gear and skills

[hearty chasm]

i know how to do it, i just dont find the gameplay really engaging, as i understand how the buffs work, hydra will be empowered as long as I pass through FW with surge, snapshoting will only make it permanent without requiring to pass through FW all the time. plus i get the extra survivability from the ward being generated from FW

[blazing root]

The point, afaik, is to allow you to swap off of the gear that boosts Frost Wall

You can swap out Frost Wall duration for something like additional attributes, or whatever, and still retain that big buff

It also means you're not only using Hydrahedron (or whatever your invocation is) on a tight timing, since you have that buff% no matter what--as long as you flame rush you're good

[hearty chasm]

passing through fw everytime is not an issue for me ( i like that gameplay better than the snapshot ),

also, the snapshot gets deactivated when you manually cast runic invocation right ?

[next lance]

ye u cast it by using flame rush

the thing is your damage buff is based on how long the wall exists

so you passing through it without extended duration equip will not give the big dmg buff

[hearty chasm]

so still have the snapshot even though fw is integrated in my spell rotation ?

[next lance]

after using snapshot u cant use frostwall or runic invocation

u just press runebolt fireball flamerush

[hearty chasm]

this is new information to me, damn

[next lance]

every second of frost wall is 30% extra dmg

so once u snapshot in the last second of the wall running out your dmg stays crazy

with t7 eq you get 100% increased duration

[molten cobalt]

frostwall is never part of rotation

since you use the node that makes runic invocation depend on skills on skillbar, irregardless of what you press

[rustic gulch]

Hey so I'm wanting to get Enigma.

Just wondering if I just show all runic stone on my filter and rune of assendacy them. Or does it work on any base of catalyst ?

Not sure if I'm just super lucky as don't have one yet

[molten cobalt]

any catalyst and you can just gamble them, no need to loot them

since gambling npc can be reset for 500 gold or something similar

[warped crow]

they should make the teleport mirages act like blink arrow/mirror arrow from poe xD

have them cast fireball/lightning blast ... and some cold skill that makes sense

xD

and then they can scale from those 3 skills trees owo

[umbral dew]

what things should i be looking for in equipment

[warped crow]

what you mean?

[umbral dew]

I'm not sure which things to focus on when choosing what to wear

Resistance, dmg, special things

Cuz i'm fairly new to the game iteslf and just started mage, played necro for a bit before

[warped crow]

early on only hard focus dmg on your weapon and defenses on everything else

resists/life on armour
mana if your mana stacking since that covers both defense and offense on sorc

cast speed and damage on your weapon early on ... cast speed and crit later on ... or dmg and crit if the skill doesnt need cast speed

if its a melee skill like spellblade skills flat damage is really really good

[umbral dew]

kk

[warped crow]

eventually youll kinda have dmg stuff and defense stuff on everything but thats simplified

means you only need to focus on the prefixes or suffixes of every item and not both

the only exception i would make is that movement speed on boots is a prefix but its just a really nice stat

[umbral dew]

got it, last time i just went necrotic dmg for acolyte but this time i think imma actually do a proper mage build

[molten cobalt]

whatever you need

[hearty chasm]

Defensive

1. Cap your resistances to 75% ( helmet, body armor, gloves, boots, belt rings, amulets relics, off-hand )
2. Ge critical strike avoidance, HPm armor, dodge whenever you can ( in order of importance ) - ( helmet, body armor, gloves, boots, belt rings )
3. For certain builds, ward and ward retention ( unique belt, unique relic, unique body armor, unique boots )
4. Mana ( depending on build ) - ( helmet, body armor, gloves relic, amulet, unique rings )
5. Cooldown reduction ( boots and belts )

Offensive

1. Your main spender's damage type ( weapons, rings, amulets and belts )
2. Cast speed ( gloves, weapons and relics _
3. Mana ( depending on build ) - ( helmet, body armor, gloves relic, amulet, unique rings )
4. Elemental Penetration - (weapons)
5. Armor shred - ( gloves, amulets )
6. Spell critical strike chance - weapons, body armor, helmet
7. Frailty - ( gloves, amulets relic )

edit: added gear

[molten cobalt]

unless he is a brand player

[warped crow]

lol

[umbral dew]

peak

[rugged shell]

Get as much of everything that's useful to you

[molten cobalt]

maan

watching latest Last of Us episode

it is complete ASS

so incredibly boring

they dont stay true to source material anyway so who the F cares about how Ellie spent her past birthdays

[near cedar]

Anybody got a meteor build?

[rustic gulch]

Wait I forgot about gamble npc...

And I guess can always use some rune of assendacy if needed.

I guess gambler is my main use for gold In CoF

[hearty chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rt5vi54rqk&ab_channel=ChronoSparkz

[molten cobalt]

you can never run out of gold from gambler npc

but its an easy way to get ascendancy bases

[rustic gulch]

True.

Just buy 10 bases and 10% chance for Enigma hopefully....

[native skiff]

any tips for survivability for mage???

700 coruption rare/bos hit so hard

[rustic gulch]

Depends what option you go for.

Can go big mana sorc with lost knowledge + Seed helmet or something like runemaster

If you commit to defence low life with 10k ward is very possible this season

[molten cobalt]

do more damage

few mage builds are actually tanky

[native skiff]

intel hoard??

[molten cobalt]

we just don't get the damage output either, we are kinda cucked atm

if you want a tanky build you should go for str stacking brand of deception runemaster

that's a real tanky mage

[native skiff]

i can hold 700 coruption with sentinel no problem

[molten cobalt]

yeah thats where you go wrong

[native skiff]

but with sorcerer im fckd up

[molten cobalt]

this isnt sentinel chat

mage is weak

you cannot compare

[native skiff]

what tips do more damage for sorcerer

[molten cobalt]

get better gear?

[native skiff]

i play meteor lightning spam with 1100 mana

[native skiff]

@_@ i guess i need red ring

[molten cobalt]

or change build

[molten cobalt]

you chose a build that is known for not being tanky

mana stacking isnt that good anymore, it was severely nerfed

[native skiff]

can you share meta build for lightning sorcerer

[rustic gulch]

I have only really seen mana stacker this season with like 2k mana and seed helmet + lost knowledge + 80% dmg taken to mana.

So then mana is like a 2nd hp pool

[native skiff]

@rustic gulch what meta for sorcerer lightning nowadays???

[molten cobalt]

mage does not have enough good builds for you to be able to be picky like that

if you lock yourself into specifically lightning on top of mage you're fked

[rustic gulch]

Nah not on lightning sorc.

The current lightning sorc is just Enigma + ladel and spark charges

[native skiff]

so need to max all element?

[molten cobalt]

i see

language barrier

[native skiff]

yeah sry my english so bad

[rustic gulch]

I mean generally the two things I have seen work on mages is

• big mana (but needs cracked gear 2k mana + Seed helmet + lost knowledge + dmg taken to mana before life + 60% endurance)
• spark charges

[native skiff]

i will try and search in forum, thanks for the tip and reply mate

[hardy condor]

Hi about the lightning blast spark charge sorcerer I ve seen there is a rune master very similar so I've come to ask what the pro and con of each build? which is the overall strongest?

[open vapor]

I've dabbled a bit with both and feel like they're pretty similar in strength. Personally decided to go sorcerer since runemaster versions convert lightning blast to cold which feels bad imo. I wanna be darth sidious 😋

[open vapor]

Can't facetank by any means but I have no issues surviving random occasional hits. Built my sorc quite tanky though. 2 red rings, orians eye and running around with 4-7k ward in combat.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bad0VGNQ

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (57) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (31)

General:

▸ Health: 1,655, Regen: 33/s
▸ Mana: 309.51, Regen: 10.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 368%, Regen: 61/s
▸ Attributes: 45 Str / 22 Dex / 190 Int / 22 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 69% / 82% / 83% / 58% / 80% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 47%, Threshold: 331
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (117)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 49% (3,064)

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Frost Wall / Teleport / Flame Ward / Focus

[woven yarrow]

Static shell is amazing

[open vapor]

Was inspired by your build but don't have shattered world so had to settle for a build that doesn't rely on low-life. Any advice to improve my dps? Shooting peanuts at uberroth rn

[woven yarrow]

If it said 20-40% less hit dmg taken from shocked enemy I swear more ppl would use lol

[open vapor]

100%. Understanding how much damage reduction it gives against hits/dots is a real headache 😅

Got 1 skill slot open btw, any dps boosting skills that I could use?

[woven yarrow]

Julra star dials, use boneclamor bacause evade,

Static is also fun with the lightning blast casts

But mainly the rings give insane dmg boost

You can check my planner from when I first killed him to compare stats I guess

[open vapor]

Will definitely try all of the above! Are stardials a considerable dps upgrade even at 1LP?

[woven yarrow]

Hmm not sure about 1lp... I used t7 t5 2lp rings

[open vapor]

As CoF those pesky 2LPs feel stupidly rare

[woven yarrow]

I farmer a few myself even in mg lol

[open vapor]

Game is giving me 4lp siphon of anguish but not a single 2LP stardial so far :/

[woven yarrow]

Lol

[open vapor]

Definitelt need to farm a t7 belt as well

[woven yarrow]

You can try binas rm ver maybe, his killed with very easy gear

[open vapor]

But I wanna be darth sidious and shoot lightning from my fingers 😢

[woven yarrow]

But it was kinda zdps

If you can do his first bar of 20% and some ward dmg (like 20-40%) before slam then it's good I think

Otherwise you need more dmg

[cerulean plinth]

The current build I'm doing (vk rive) does ~10% still trying to get a char strong enough to down uber

It's a struggle

[open vapor]

Pretty mcuh get exactly to the threshhold so that would mean I need to at least double my dmg. Time to upgrade everything I guess!

[woven yarrow]

X2 star dials will probably do that

Just gotta fix res lol. Just phys void and cold I think are most important

[hardy condor]

Thk for the answer so really no big diff even in The passive tree I mean both top end give different thing which serve the most the build?

[woven yarrow]

One plus for sorc is that you can use different skills easier bacause of mana refund. So frostclaw nova is easy to use. Also you can run static orb setups, which rm cannot.
I do think for budget versions rm does seem to offer better stats but with endgame they seem very similar with sorc having more qol I think.. dmg seems to be same tbh

And 2.5k ward per potion is pretty op

[open vapor]

Perfect! Since I have orian I just need fire, cold and phys. Since I dont need tp for mana refund I have low cd and basically perma uptime. Can respec it to give free fire res as well. Just need tons of phys res somehow. Either blessing or idols

[woven yarrow]

Yea change armour blessing to phys maybe

[cosmic dove]

via idol affixes? passive is based on int so I don't see how that could reach 2.5k

[woven yarrow]

You convert potion to ward + 220 or so int

[cosmic dove]

kk

[woven yarrow]

Was thinking if you go full potion with jungle queen .. might be fun ward lol

[open vapor]

Holy moly! Would go crazy for a few seconds before you run out. Tbh, focus is probably a better way to tank a hit or two though. 8 armor per int + 20% dr from shocked + 20% dr from chilled + 35% elemental dr is just bonkers tankiness

Cant attack during focus though

[void shore]

which is best for pure lightning blast sorc?

like, do the prism shard really matter or is it more the crit chance from the Gaze over the light pen and +1 from the crown?

[static bluff]

does fire have any good endgame builds with spellblade?

[cosmic dove]

only tested it a baby levels, but I'm testing a black hole / meteor build with mana guide
clear is just meteor (single, not split)
rares/bosses is BH w/ meteor every second. you can focus with mana guide and dodge while the BH and meteors damage the target. crits on other mobs proc the belt for more meteors
not meta for sure but the BH casting meteor is attacking during focus in a way

[molten cobalt]

would you actually have enough points for the 35% ele DR though

i sure dont

[void shore]

anyone have any experience ?

[molten cobalt]

noone runs pure lightning blast

[void shore]

i already have a meta char, im just playing for fun now

[native skiff]

red ring 2 and orian eye is op item, jesus christ ur so lucky

[dusk sluice]

thats the sad thing xD really love arc like skills but here it does no damage sadly, but at least we got t pose (or skiing now :D)

[open vapor]

yes, if you spec into defensive stats
4 iron stance (armor per int)
5 chilling aura (dr vs chill)
5 prismatic stance (ele dr)
1 mana flooded
5 shocking aura (dr vs shock)

[molten cobalt]

i suppose you can skip the haste node

and the zero cooldown node

[open vapor]

no cooldown is nice so you can definitely do 1 point in dr vs shock and take that if you want. Haste is imo overrated though since you only gain it after finishing channel

[molten cobalt]

that eats 4 points i think

you gotta spend 3 to unlock the no cooldown

[molten cobalt]

channel is interrupted by flame rush, teleport or evade, so you kinda get a natural refresh and thus haste

[open vapor]

yup, so you put 1 instead of 5 into shock dr to compensate

[open vapor]

I'm not playing mana guide, just talking about putting it on as a second flame ward

[rustic gulch]

Yeah I'm actually looking at static shell next.

Also arm applies to dots ect

So the rune of assendacy spam worked for Enigma. Even got a few so could pick the best aoe roll.

Just wondering about something Tho. Ele nova vs frostwall.

I have enough aoe on spark charge that 1 LB can hit apply charge + explode it and clear a pack. But is it worth dropping the ele nova on tp stuff for frostwall that fire LB ?

[molten cobalt]

shocked DR > ele DR

much rather have a universal DR against all elements and damage types than only against fire, lightning and cold

[open vapor]

well, depends
ele DR also applies to damage that doesn't come from enemies, (and to void damage if you use orian's eye which I am)

[proper hawk]

what damage that doesn't come from enemies are you expecting to mitigate with this?

[open vapor]

uberroth things

[compact current]

critical strike multi or spell damage more important on the lightning blast build for mad alchemist

[harsh abyss]

Depends on how high your crit chance is, and how much spell damage you have elsewhere

[compact current]

72% damage with 286% CS multi

[harsh abyss]

what about your crit chance?

286% multi is garbage if your crit chance is only like 10%

[compact current]

chance is 22 so not great

[harsh abyss]

Go for spell damage then, more multi isn't really gonna help you until your chance up higher

[compact current]

gotcha

[cinder latch]

is % mana gained as ward capped? in the UI, it shows 60 but then a bigger number in ()- does that mean I'm overcapped?

[open vapor]

main reason to use frost wall is that there's a node that gives you 12% more damage against chilled enemies when frost wall is up. So frost wall is way superior on bossing, however is almost useless when clearing

[warped crow]

ok nvm i found a longer cooldown movement skill that javelin uwu

17 second runic invocation xD

to be fair its more like 9 cuz built in cda but ye

[warped crow]

love how weaver and cof can both proc seperately for echo reward drops

sometimes you leave a map and get like 10 xp books

[nimble shoal]

That's a lot of reading

[warped crow]

lol

[sacred flume]

any builds that use disintegrate working?

[polar prism]

anyone see the new skipose build?

[hybrid schooner]

yah

didnt see too wild other than the move speed

[polar prism]

yea doesn't seem bad or to crazy

[hybrid schooner]

the clear seamed pretty spotty. the old str stack eamed way more reliable just walk through stuff and itll die

gotta wait for LB to hit with the skipose

[polar prism]

Your going to do the build?

[hybrid schooner]

no i have a min/maxed tr stack right now

str

[polar prism]

what build is that

[hybrid schooner]

we use to call it T pose strength stack but they changed the animation. idk what to call it now

[polar prism]

where did u find it?

[hybrid schooner]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJr191bQ

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (21) / Spellblade (14) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,543, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 327.14, Regen: 14.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 495%, Regen: 224/s
▸ Attributes: 173 Str / 30 Dex / 173 Int / 18 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 79% / 115% / 103% / 76% / 85% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 309
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (389)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,559)
▸ Block Chance: 187%, Mitigation: 46% (1,733)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 104%

Used skills:

Focus / Flame Ward / Flame Rush / Runic Invocation / Frost Wall

[hybrid schooner]

here

to really get it cranking there is s snapshot involved. but its not mecessary.

[polar prism]

Whats your main damage ability

focus?

[hybrid schooner]

so we flame rush which produces an invocation, and as long as the invocation is active, whih is all the time. it apply brand of deception which is a single stak DOT its a hige dot

huge

[polar prism]

ah

[hybrid schooner]

the focus is generally just for survival, we get a lot of armor and ward while in focus

so u jsut flame rush around and exhist while everything dies

the clear is pretty phenomanl. even at 2500 corr im cruising

[polar prism]

wow

if u don't mind could i join u for 1 mono

I wanna check it out

Do u follow a guide or did u make it your self

[hybrid schooner]

was definitely a guide. frozensentinel on youtube was working this one

[polar prism]

o he was the one i found the skipose from

[hybrid schooner]

right

[polar prism]

what is your boss damage looking like with the str stacking mage

[hybrid schooner]

in monos is definitely exceptional at any orruption level. uber boss was a challenge because you cant phase skip the last phase at all

but its supre tanky, you really cant die even if you potato the entire fight up until last phase

[polar prism]

lol

[hybrid schooner]

unlike this shatter strike im working on, no room for potato

ya the str stack build i was even standing in the tri slams no problem half the time. not really intentionally . skill issue

[polar prism]

lol

would u say str stacking or ski pose is better?

[hybrid schooner]

probably str stack

ya most likely

man the nemesis really like these belts. 4 of 11 went lp2

[polar prism]

nice

[rustic gulch]

Yeah I guess my nova setup is just way better clear. But if doing something like Aberoth I possibly just swap to frostwall for single target.

I do feel zoom, 100% uptime on haste and nova explosions passively happen as I teleport around.

[molten cobalt]

Ski pose isn’t a build it’s the animation for focus and both builds discussed would look the same

It’s just a meme name he slapped on it but basically every build that uses mana guide amulet would be a ”ski pose”

[warped crow]

isnt it called that because you can move while in arcane ascendancy with it?

[molten cobalt]

No it’s what the animation looks like. Before recent patch he called it T-pose because the animation made a constant T-pose

Can just as well call it row your boat build

Has nothing whatsoever to do with the build itself, it’s just a naming scheme to make the build feel special

[hybrid schooner]

what happened to the gutys that were working on mana strike builds? i wodner how it went

[livid ingot]

guys, a runemaster related question: If i pick immutable order from runic invocation and got fireball with 50% fire and 50% light base in skillbar, what element does it chose? or 50:50 chance? (the other two skills are Gon and Rah)

[hybrid schooner]

can u just test it. i may be the onyl one around rn and i dont know

[livid ingot]

yeah i'd if i was at home 😄

[hybrid schooner]

ahh, making notes at work i see

[harsh abyss]

It will rotate between them

That's how all multi-element spells work

oh wait, with immutable order, it specifies it in the node

[rustic gulch]

Yeah this was weird to work out.

On my build I'm using
Flame ward - cold
Ele nova - cold + lightning + fire
LB - cold

And it defaults to CFC

[hybrid schooner]

bruh i been working on one slam piece for 4 days now. i can not get it through the forge in tact with the right stats. idk whats going on. probably ripped about 50-70. 7/7/ helms by now

trying to give this my best shot. but nothing has passed the forge yet

ths is the closest ive got o far. but still need to havoc to dex/health, and hit 4 upgrades on crit redux

[weary mantle]

plasma orb is a playable build on runmaseter?

[hybrid schooner]

meh idk. we been using it to apply brand of deception. i suppose you can scale its damage if you want

[raven skiff]

does mage have any strong builds this season?

[weary hamlet]

depends on your definition of "strong"

[molten cobalt]

On its own no

You cannot really make an invocation the main damage dealer

[molten cobalt]

Compared to sentinel no

[gilded dock]

Gonna point out that there's some potential bugginess in how immutable order interacts with multi element spells especially ones with element conversion.
I've noticed it particularly with runebolt, which I have fully converted to cold. I will get a fire rune when I fresh log in to the character instead of a cold one. Something to do with the conversion tags only processing on the skill after a little delay, I think.

A workaround for it is to use runebolt directly once, then it "fixes" the rune and is correctly cold from then on out.

Just worth mentioning in case you do any conversion

[static bluff]

does volcanic orb have any endgame scalability?

[weary hamlet]

yea you can kill normal aby and corr up to idk 600-800

uber aby, probably not

[static bluff]

nice. good to know

[weary hamlet]

maybe you can push it higher with good gear, nobody really knows cause nobody plays that build

ironically I have it on my rm currently but I've not been playing much in the last few weeks

[static bluff]

i mean im just curious, this is my first ever character

[weary hamlet]

its still in like 200 corr

[static bluff]

i beat the story yesterday and just starting echoes today

[weary hamlet]

if you need inspiration look up dread's build, that's more or less cutting edge tech in regards to this skill so far

for direct damage

you can also build either frostbite or ignite on it, the gist is the same

[static bluff]

sounds good, ill check it out whenever i get stuck

havent hit a solid wall yet

[proud swift]

Is it just me or is there a lack of unique items for Rune Master?

[molten cobalt]

Absolutely just you

[weary hamlet]

just you, RM is probably the mastery most dependent on its specific uniques

[molten cobalt]

There’s in fact too many uniques

[weary hamlet]

not to mention all the more generic ones that are still perfectly usable in various builds

[molten cobalt]

I actually wish they moved power from uniques to the skill itself instead

Runenaster rely on too many uniques where it’s really just 1 stat you need to unlock build but rest is rather poopoo

But you’re forced to take the entire item

[weary hamlet]

yea honestly criterion is the worst example of this design, many skills have some of their power budget in its supporting uniques but in case of RI it's more that nearly all of it is in uniques and only some is baseline

also it gets really annoying to play especially with effects like Immutable Order which doesn't even let me set up my hotbar in a way that would be convenient as opposed to mandated by the skill

[molten cobalt]

Yeah it’s poor design

[cosmic dove]

agree in general that RM needs a lot of love but just FYI you can remap keys and mouse buttons in the hotbar
I have the 3rd hotbar button as RMB in my disintegrate/RM build

[weary hamlet]

yes but I don't want to do it every time I swap characters, which is often

[cosmic dove]

I just use the order on all characters. so meteor is on RMB in the 3rd position.

[molten cobalt]

What is RMB

[cosmic dove]

right mouse button

[molten cobalt]

Right

RM needs several skill bars I feel

And a quick swap button

Then we could for real use multiple invocations

And preferably that runes update as you quick swap

Then you could actually have a quick swap for “oh shit”

And one for gotta go fast

[cosmic dove]

One thing I want to see changed is the inconsistent mapping of stats / side effects to runes
On criterion Heo goes with str. But on the affix Cold Pen goes with dodge which is dex.
It just feels off and most combinations don't work

[molten cobalt]

And one boss

[cosmic dove]

In general the invocations could use different utility. Like one invocation for good aoe/clear and then another that does 10x damage but only single target

[molten cobalt]

We have that

[cosmic dove]

does any invocation do enough damage to be a ST boss killer?

[molten cobalt]

No they don’t work as main damage dealer no

[cosmic dove]

yeah that's the issue

[molten cobalt]

But we do have aoe clear like plasma orb

And single target like lightning web

They’re still used like you explain but they boost something else that does the damage, like dot

[cosmic dove]

I feel like there still room there. Like all the cold DOT ones are large AOE. I can blizzard or I can swirl.
It would be better if you could blizzard for clear and then another cold invo would put a mega DOT on a single target

[molten cobalt]

But visually it looks like the invocation does the damage

Gotta pretend here

[cosmic dove]

😉

[molten cobalt]

It’s an RPG after all hehe

[weary hamlet]

I'm pretty sure that the meteor invocation is better than the actual meteor for single target damage too, although that's not exactly a high bar to clear

[jaunty mason]

hey y'all, new here. I havent played since closed beta and i just recently restarted sorc LB mage. I finally reached corrupted maps but man does the difficulty scale quick. I've tried to research as much as possible before attempting the reach out the community but I would absolutely love some feedback if or when someone has some free time

[hybrid schooner]

@jaunty masoni thnk theres a few people around that are working LB. i think Biddaddy has some videos on yt about it

hes in here often

[jaunty mason]

yeah ive seen most of his videos but im kinda stuck between normal maps and corrupted ones

i just do more dmg without spark charge

[smoky barn]

I think... the biggest invocation damage I found is ice-fire-fire. Target has to be stationary though and gotta make sure you proc the double invoc. Doesn't melt bosses like other classes, I'd imagine, but still.

[woven yarrow]

If you don't have good gear my builds won't really work Xd. I didn't really make or test starter planners

[cosmic dove]

looking at igneous rain, which is it? text says 50% chance to ignite and 150% effectiveness

but the spell says 100% chance to ignite, 200% effectiveness

[smoky barn]

Hmm, unsure. I would presume the latter.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, it's a lot more common for descriptions to not get updated

[reef creek]

Hello, can I ask for a feedback what's the most critical for me to change asap for Frost Claw/Nova build? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q09DdMJB

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 93

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (58) / Runemaster (28)

General:

▸ Health: 1,142, Regen: 25.02/s
▸ Mana: 320.82, Regen: 9.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 203%, Regen: 29/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 100 Int / 1 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 40% / 52% / 106% / 115% / 49% / 68%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 228
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (845)

Used skills:

Flame Ward / Elemental Nova / Lightning Blast / Flame Rush / Frost Claw

[jaunty mason]

which is exactly where im at, im unsure if i should just struggle through to try and get corrupted gear or breeze through some non corrupted maps to get the actual gear i need

im in a really awkward spot gearing wise

[molten cobalt]

int version of brand of deception runemaster is fairly easy to gear up

str version gets more specific and needy

[lunar crest]

I have red ring on all 3 imprint slots and I still have not seen a duplicate in 3 days. Do you guys have any tips to improve my luck?

[molten cobalt]

not gotten an imprint trigger in 3 days?

[lunar crest]

A duplicate of a red ring specifically.

I'm sure imprint is working it's thing.

Just not the result that I want.

[molten cobalt]

elaborate on "duplicate"

what are you expecting

[lunar crest]

Another red ring.

[molten cobalt]

well what kind of farming are you doing

how are you running your maps

[lunar crest]

Pretty much doing the folly > trove > temple cycle.

[molten cobalt]

top left wont ever produce a red ring FYI

[molten cobalt]

well there's your issue

[lunar crest]

Damn. I have start reading these tooltips a little more.

[molten cobalt]

your farming strategy is purely to maximise amount of cache chests

which is the only imprint you cannot shove a ring in

did you not realise this

folly does not even have an echo reward i think

which means bottom left cannot trigger

do you even have double echo reward node?

[lunar crest]

Yes, I have this maxed. And bottom left imprint should still trigger on trove and false temples tho, right?

[molten cobalt]

yes, but false temple isnt a quick map

you need quantity

you basically need to run regular echoes and just rush the objective

and F everything else

that way you could do echoes in matter of seconds

[lunar crest]

Okay, that makes a lot of sense. If you haven't even mentioned it, I would have kept the imprint configurations the same.

[molten cobalt]

thats how you farm red rings

[lunar crest]

Thank you very much! 🙏🏻

[molten cobalt]

👍

[steady ermine]

Yes I use mana guide to channel focus and move and it is AWFUL

[molten cobalt]

awful how?

totally fine for me

[rustic gulch]

This sounds stupid but how do I use nemesis eggs ?

• I click on replace
• I click on the box to show stash
• I click on unique in stash with 0lp
• move to the big empty area I assume the item goes In
• nothing happens

Is this some bug with controller ?

[molten cobalt]

empower the nemesis

[rustic gulch]

But the items not there

The egg is still shown

[molten cobalt]

and see what you get from the egg

hmm

[rustic gulch]

I can't replace the egg

[molten cobalt]

you should get a prompt asking if you are sure

then the selected item is shown instead of egg

[rustic gulch]

It's just not letting me replace the egg.

I click on the item and move it over the big empty space and click again. The item just stays on the cursor

I'm not sure if this is just a bug with controller

[molten cobalt]

real gamers use PC

[rustic gulch]

I have a PC

[molten cobalt]

🤷‍♂️

[warped crow]

keep getting hit with the stupid black circle bug

[rustic gulch]

When I move my item to the massive empty space i get NEMESIS I'm large text at the top of the box and that's it.....

[molten cobalt]

no eggs for you

[rustic gulch]

Yeah I get to this stage. Move item over to the big empty box. Click and nothing happens.

Even using the buttons that puts items into forge but moves them into inventory

[molten cobalt]

🤷‍♂️

[rustic gulch]

There is no item level limit that I'm just missing right ?

[molten cobalt]

not that i know of

[rustic gulch]

It's not just 1 item

[molten cobalt]

just needs to be a 0lp unique

[rustic gulch]

It's every single 0LP unique I have

Same issue

[molten cobalt]

rip you

[rustic gulch]

Tomorrow I'm gonna do the extra same thing with a mouse just to check I'm not going crazy.

I assume the click on controller is just not setup right or something.

Wanna make some use of my random 0lp Enigma

[molten cobalt]

finally

[lunar crest]

You might wanna send over a screenshot of the item.

[rustic gulch]

It's every since unique item I try same result. Egg replace not working

But if it works on mouse I'll just make a bug report and add some images

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, sounds like a a bug for sure

[rustic gulch]

Yeah seems it's a bug

For some reason when you click on the nemesis egg area on controller it will pick up and item from it but won't put one in

Here's how you need to do it if you play on controller currently

• Left Bumper to get to nemesis window
• Open stash
• Left bumper to go to stash
• Navigate to item
• Press Triangle to move item a few times
• Right bumper to go back to nemesis window
• Confirm

You can't do it via the controller mouse

[molten cobalt]

just saw a video of serpent venom druid, looks sick

i hate melee though

but it completely b*tch slapped uberroth and farmed corr 7200 like it was corr 100

[harsh abyss]

hot damn

[molten cobalt]

so cool it transforms though

into like Scyther

[blazing root]

It has pretty lame clear but yeah the poison is strong as hell

[molten cobalt]

lame clear?

it looked super fast

https://youtu.be/gYv4WRTtp5U?si=H-_Um_3cJ41sCzOL

cant say thats lame clear speed

[harsh abyss]

Anything that CAN clear 7200 corruption probably don't have lame clear

[blazing root]

With what is the best possible gear for the build, he's still clearing packs behind him. I guess that's not "lame" in the sense that it is 7200 corruption, but it has the DoT issue where you're going to be moving past things and having to loop back for items + it doesn't just delete the screen as you move 🤷

You can ask the people who play that build without perfect gear and they'll tell you the same thing, it suffers because it is dot/melee

[harsh abyss]

I always hate DoT builds for that reason. The most optimal way to play being to walk past things is always meh

[rustic gulch]

Maybe I'm missing something but is 7k corruption needed. I assumed most people sat around 1k.

[molten cobalt]

needed no

that's just an e-peen contest at that point

[blazing root]

part of the problem is application, too, since you apply the strong DoT of that build with the small melee hit

there's no way around it, you always have to melee to do anything reasonable (and it has a short lifetime, too, so you need to get comfortable knowing how many stacks of other ailments you need to make the big dot kill)

[harsh abyss]

Seems fine, tbh. Just a way that certain p[eople will like to play and others won't

[blazing root]

I mean in terms of clearing--something like Witchfire which spreads its DoT without melee range (just as an application example) doesn't have that exact downside

[molten cobalt]

what impressed me was the combination of clear speed and uberroth kill time

[blazing root]

It is also tougher to play it against uber without knowing the moves well enough to be able to sustain the DoT but that's any true melee class (which obviously, VK ES isn't counted in lmao)

[harsh abyss]

VK ES is insane

[wet cape]

Prob too vague but how much mana regen should we aim for to replace focus in a build? I realize it can vary but just curious if there's an average approximation

[harsh abyss]

Really depends on the build, tbh

[static bluff]

wow, shatter strike spellblade is nuts

[warped crow]

kind of but not really

it has a really good start but it caps fast compared to other stuff

[static bluff]

well, compared to whatever mess I cooked up myself it is a lot better xD

made it to echoes comfortably with my own setup so not complaining, now to see lategame

[lunar crest]

If Shatter Strike wasn't so dependent on Mana Strike, it would actually be insane.

[lunar crest]

Why can't these ever happen on my Scissors?

[glad marten]

Most people? Most people are WAY lower than that

[daring wedge]

most people just finish the campaign or if they are into empowered they'll be between 100-300

[warped crow]

id probably say if the current meta didnt exist it would be pretty close to the next wrung down

[smoky barn]

Me, being between 300 and 400

Yes! I'm slightly above most of them!

[proper hawk]

@thin schooner about your reply in suggestions, frost claw already triggers ele nova without the benefit of that node, since it only works on direct cast

[wet cape]

does Fan the Inferno scale off just global ignite on hit or can it scale with ignite on with with fire spells?

[harsh abyss]

Just character sheet ignite, I believe

[twilit jasper]

ok?

is that even a thing

dafak

[hybrid schooner]

i think the rangs to flame rush one is a thing but only for the spell damage. but both together lol

[twilit jasper]

both are weird lol

apparently flame, shatter might be a ting

[hybrid schooner]

anybody around can do a few uber with me? ive dont it solo but its super unreliable

[rugged shell]

No point.

You can scale both to deal mediocre damage at best or scale one to do amazing damage.

[hybrid schooner]

i mean they both scale off the same exact thing other than the fire/cold tag. but even if you scale both, why is the question

[molten cobalt]

is what even a thing?

i dont see anything weird

[dusk sluice]

@molten cobalt hi yestersay begun to level mage using guide you suggested via glacier setup. Can I ask at which level should I look to potentially seitch to that plasma orb thing that YT video doesnt actually mention the level at which to switch and I guess Ill need shock chance gear and idols ideally at least some before switching right

After playing on trade and using full fledge 50m leveling gear glacier feels so bad xD but thats ofc as it should be xD

[molten cobalt]

it's not a level check, it is a gear check

[hybrid schooner]

does not work until you get this node the the runemaster tree at the very least

[dusk sluice]

Oh gear I thought we need like some level to get some passive points or skills levels needed

[hybrid schooner]

strength mage right?

[molten cobalt]

well yes that one is of course a must

[molten cobalt]

i think he doing int first

[dusk sluice]

Right so that one first and then then on gear what type do I need aprox. Just bunch of shock chance everywhere plus int and other misc stats from planner?

Ideally if I find any then idols with shock too

[molten cobalt]

you have the video guide right?

with the 6 steps in the video description

the gear is literally right there

[hybrid schooner]

any thoughts on this? i think the sealed affix is doing some cuckery with my imprint outputs. 7/7 is very very rare right now.

[dusk sluice]

Right right okay thought to ask what to focus on specifically as gear can have tons of stats and not sure which are must have which are just good to have

[molten cobalt]

from what i remember the gear was really basic and got more advanced as you progressed through the steps

[dusk sluice]

Oh okay so nothing toooooo complex is needed for first switch then

[molten cobalt]

also literally says lvl25 here

but i remember i went step 2 around lvl30 or so because thats when i had the gear

[dusk sluice]

Oh didnt notice that coz when I open it said level 100 xD

Guess can gamba starting gear from gambler vendor if needed will see thanks

[molten cobalt]

the affixes aint hard

and many are optional too

like armor shred on gloves

in no way shape or form do you need that at lvl25

so its basically just int + mana / mana regen + whatever res you can get

movement speed

some cast speed maybe

and as high +spell damage wand you can get

until you swap to brand of deception version then spell damage is useless

[dusk sluice]

Oooh Im dumb so first switch is not brand version but just hitting orb version

I was too focused like how do I get to there by 25-30 xD

[dusk sluice]

Spell damage doesnt work on brand? Like at all I thought it is still some kind of spell or elemental damage type

[molten cobalt]

no it does not

BoD has 400 lightning damage as base damage, so it will not get boosted by flat spell damage

[dusk sluice]

Still confused why not xD just because it doesnt have spell tag ir smth coz lightning damage to mee sound like elemental or spell damage

[molten cobalt]

increased elemental damage does boost brand

but BoD is not a spell and thus cannot be boosted by spell damage

it is an ailment

[north heath]

Hi 👋

I'm currently playing a flame reaver spellblade. I'm looking for a way to get lightning aegis, bc sometimes i still get one shot even with 2k health and 3k ward.

If i use an idol with aegis when hit, will that be up against harbingers, nemesis, etc?

The hit that procs LA probably doesn't get it's damage removed, right?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q09J653B

This is my current setup

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (66) / Runemaster (20)

General:

▸ Health: 2,044, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 148.5, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 321%, Regen: 277/s
▸ Attributes: 4 Str / 19 Dex / 83 Int / 1 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 90% / 81% / 79% / 123% / 89% / 83%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 409
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (986)
▸ Block Chance: 18%, Mitigation: 30% (644)

Used skills:

Firebrand / Flame Ward / Flame Reave / Enchant Weapon / Surge

[hybrid schooner]

lightening aegis is awesome but there very few ways to actually get it. there are idols for when you get hit to get aegis, probably very inconsistant and also they are pretty big. another way is from lightening blast which isnt naturally part of a spellblades toolkit

this could have some play if you wnt to get lightening aegis in your kit

because of this node here

these chests could have some play in combination with 2h and aegis

@north heath

surge can also produce lightening blast. but you have to spec into surge and lightening blast obviously

[north heath]

but this might be the best angle

I have the Titan Heart but i dont see how it can get me LA?

[hybrid schooner]

no the sword is getting lighting aegis if you also spec light blast

the chesst is just to combo with a 2h weapon

[dusk sluice]

Oooh that way okay okay thanks

[hybrid schooner]

aye first uber down in a while. its so hard

[molten cobalt]

why no cold snap?

you dont use frostwall anyway

[proud swift]

The unique boots 'Vaion's Chariot' says "Every 3 Seconds your next Movement Skill deals (24 to 40)% more damage.". If my Runic Invocation has the movement tag then does the spell I cast with Runic Invocation benefit from this % more damage?

[molten cobalt]

yes

[proud swift]

Thank you

[molten cobalt]

but you're gonna have a bad time if you're trying to use invocation for damage

[proud swift]

Why is that?

[molten cobalt]

They deal no damage

Endgame runemasters never actually use the invocations themselves for damage

[proud swift]

😭

That sucks 😢

Defeats the entire purpose of RuneMaster it seems 😦

[dusk sluice]

Theres a lot of that in last epoch unfortunatelly 😦 I wished for pure lightning blast one of my favorite skills in path of exile too but here it basically used to trigger smth else 😭

[harsh abyss]

I tried using Battlemages endeavor as the centerpiece for a build, and it just didnt feel like it had enough flat damage.

[hybrid schooner]

was it a shtter strike build

right off rip you lose 80% crir multi and a ton of attack speed because the shater strike nodes just pigeon hole you into 1h swords

[harsh abyss]

I did it as mana strike, tried for max attack speed. I got it up to 5 aps to trigger a ton of LBs and Frost Claws. Problem is that BE only has a max for 48 flat spell damage and not that much flat melee (for Glamdring in Frost Claw). AND its split between lightning and cold

You need 4aps to match the proc rate of Dragorath's Claw and it provides a bunch of extra stats. Similarly, Essence Weaver does the same, even if it is just Frost Claws, it gets those triple stats.

BE just cant hold up in comparison to either of those options.

[proud swift]

I am working on a Lightning RuneMaster that uses Lightning Blast and my experience has been the same. After empowered monos Lightning Blast falls off hard especially against bosses forcing me to take the nodes that trigger Spark Charge.

[harsh abyss]

My channeled Lightning Blast built worked pretty well up to Aberroth. I should really get around to farming the gear that I'd need for it to beat him

Is there an item that somehow makes dodge chance affect DoT damage?

[nimble shoal]

Foot of the mountain, kinda. But by default dodge does avoid "on hit" DOTs, too

[cosmic dove]

couple frost wall questions
this nodes says it swaps chill => ignite

would this swap to ignite too?

[hybrid schooner]

pretty sure yes

[proud swift]

In what way is Staff better than Wand + Off-hand?

[hybrid schooner]

idk i guess it depends on if your build has a unique offhand, or needs the other types of stats that can come on an offhand

but is it better? idk. posible that a t7 damage roll on a 2h is higher than 2x 1h weapons together

[outer sinew]

I wish they had let mage stay strong to experience the new content with that level of power

[hybrid schooner]

ya i think the intel nerf was not necessary. the ward decay increase was already enough to massively shit on our ward anyways

some builds can still get respectable ward. but like shatter strike for example use to be a ward monster. now like 3-4k and youre cooking

[weary hamlet]

in case you never noticed, the design of RM is extremely questionable in general

[outer sinew]

the issue im running into now that ive made most of the characters i want to make is that only ones that i see handling end game smoothly are builds i find really boring

[weary hamlet]

which is now especially obvious after they nerfed all the random OP crap it also got

[outer sinew]

they should have kept mage how it was yeah with just some ward reduction, im assuming their next reworks will buff that stuff again up to a more tolerable level

[hybrid schooner]

like doing the ward decay increase and dumping on intel at the same time wasnt the move. should done the decay first and see where things landed after. cause anyone who uses itel just took it to the face on that one

[weary hamlet]

ah I just wanted to ask how your build was faring in killing it so far

still procrastinating I see I see

[weary hamlet]

yea bring back the 0.8.4 mage, is it even a real build if it doesnt oneshot the pinnacle boss?

like have they even played poe or something

[hybrid schooner]

isnt the power fantasy of mage to be a glass cannon for the most part? we got all glass, no cannon

to be fair the str stack is cray tanky

[proud swift]

Is there a point where investing any further in cast speed is not worth it? Like diminishing returns?

[weary hamlet]

there are diminishing returns for each stat, since basically your character's damage problem is the solution space for X+Y+Z = C, X * Y * Z -> max

but you gotta whip out the calculator for that

[hybrid schooner]

well theres is no actual hard diminish on cast speed. but as with everything the more you have of it the less valuable it becomes relative to getting other stats

[proud swift]

is 99% cast speed too much?

[hybrid schooner]

like if you had 200% cast speed already, and add another 30. its really only 15%

idk. but in general cast speed/attack speed you usually get every bith of it you can in each slot because it directly multiplies damage

evey bit*

plus its just more fun to go faster

[smoky barn]

More cast speed is usually more efficient to proc more things, right?

[hybrid schooner]

more everything. its probably the priority stat on most everything

[outer sinew]

the answer is no

just got the max ward per second roll for blessings hell yea

[hybrid schooner]

lol brooo. i was just goin g through a trove here and was like gdamn this mob is really tanky. it was a fkn orobyss

[proud swift]

The unique relic 'Ucenui's Sphere' says "3 Water Orbs per cast if your Attunement is Equal to your Intelligence". Is it worth it making attunement equal to intelligence as a RuneMaster? Does it also apply if Attunement is greater than Intelligence?

Unless my math is wrong it seems the intelligence sacrificed is worth it because we get way more increased damage if attunement is equal to Intelligence.

[hybrid schooner]

so what.. how do you get both attributes to be the same

not at all sure how that would work. how do you get both stats the same

[proud swift]

Put attunement in the gear and get intel from the passive tree.

[hybrid schooner]

kek. julras stardial

[lunar crest]

I'm about to lose my mind. I've turtled about 20 Reens already not one has resulted in a 2LP.

[hybrid schooner]

2lp reen is pretty common. i have at least 30 2 lp reens

[lunar crest]

Throw some luck my way.

[hybrid schooner]

but i been on 1h sword prophs like a wild person

[lunar crest]

What lenses do you run for target farming?

[hybrid schooner]

come with me when i go through my boss proph clean out. ill drop you some reens

uh 1h swords i do 1h sword lens, double yield, monolith only

i buy all the 1h sword prophs for mono bosses, but prio is like nemesis/mage/boss/giant scorpion

i just keep going and re buying until its almost entirely full with mono boss prophs. then i hit each boss quickly

when the boss ones are piled up its like 40 prophs done in like 15 minutes

my bad, i have 15x lp2 reens. i keep sacrificing them to high roll the base stats

[proud swift]

Is 463 mana high?

[hybrid schooner]

for what build?

[proud swift]

RuneMaster

[hybrid schooner]

hmm. i think unless youre doing some kind of damage to mana before health or ward, that would be considered high mana and probably not needed

[proud swift]

thanks

[hybrid schooner]

unless that mana is doing something idk what youd have so much

[proud swift]

triple invocations 🙂

[hybrid schooner]

hmm

[proud swift]

prologue and interlude node in Runic Invocation XD

[cosmic dove]

lightning disintegrate runemaster can mana stack for Hyperfocal and Scrivener's Haste but that's an edge case

[harsh abyss]

You can also build Focus (Mana Guide) for max mana and do lots of dps, even though most people are using it for other builds

Static Orb can also benefit from infinite mana stacking

[proud swift]

Do defenses like resistance And armor apply to damage done to our ward as well?

[harsh abyss]

Yes

The only thing that I'm aware of that doesn't apply to ward is Endurance

[proud swift]

Thanks

[rose mica]

Which base staff do you use for lighting shard build ;)? This Ram Staff looks good, isn't

[harsh abyss]

Dragon Staff or Gate Staff are usual choices

[green crystal]

ram staff only gains a little bit of health when it upgrades unfortunately

otoh you can always use it until you find a better one

[harsh abyss]

That, or it could be useful for health stacking defenses, since you can't get that on other staffs

[lunar crest]

Does gauntlet echo also reroll the implicit?

[hybrid schooner]

uhh yes

itll reroll anything that is slammed on there too

in the case of rare items (high LP or just rare in general), if the nemesis bothces them up just save them to reroll others

red ring is a good example of such an item youd want to do this with

but the mor common stuff that i farm on mass for my builds, when it starts to overflow in the stash ill go to the turtle to either wipe the LP, or get lucky on LP. and then head over to the gauntlet to tune up the base stats on everything i want to egg in the nemesis.

like, what if you could just buy the prophecies you wanted instead of fishing for them like a pleb

[glad marten]

Sorcerer is where it's at!

I tried runemaster and it just didn't work as well for me

[fleet cradle]

Mage gang

[cosmic dove]

I play both (not well)
the lightning disintegrate I was messing around with a lightning invocation and brand of deception. since brand is a DOT you can boost it and disintegrate at the same time...in theory

[glad marten]

Yeah, often splitting your attention just dilutes the final result. The problem with my sorc setup is that it's tight and every skill has a strong purpose.

Disintegrate - obvious
Static orb - apply 10 shock and lightning aegis uptime
Flame rush - channeled mobility and casting static orb
Flame ward - obvious
Focus - absolutely necessary for regen

[cosmic dove]

I was messing with lightning disintegrate because it cost zero mana

but I hear you about splitting...I always try to do too much with a build

[harsh abyss]

Also, you can pair the static orb charged ground with disintegrate because it's also DoT

[wet cape]

Does the doubled effect bonus proc if its Frost Wall casting runebolt and not me directly casting it myself?

[harsh abyss]

Should be easy enough to test. Spec it and open your character sheet when you cast frost wall

It doesn't say "Directly cast" so it should, but usually those things do require a direct cast

[humble umbra]

So, finally did an empowered echo. I was mentally prepared for a challenge, but... eh. And quite frankly, I'm not having much fun. Included is a link to my first empowered echo, and my build and gear. I had been told that things get interest once you do the empowered echoes, but not only does it seem more of the same, aside from the single boss in the video, the difficulty increase is barely noticeable. And while the gear I may get is probably better, it's.. eh.

Maybe disintegrate is just a boring OP skill and I've ruined my own fun, maybe not. I'm just not seeing myself having fun even getting to pinnacle content.

Or maybe I'm jumping ahead of things, and the 100 corruption is just baby level, and that the "real" stuff is later. But still. Going from normal echoes to empowered ones without having done any real grinding, and just going for "let's get to empowered asap", it feels rather disappointing.

Build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o37dVVyo
Video: https://youtu.be/WX0sqiVmLuI

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 87

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (30) / Sorcerer (67) / Runemaster (3)

General:

▸ Health: 1,395, Regen: 21.18/s
▸ Mana: 621.08, Regen: 27.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 162%, Regen: 183/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 30 Int / 15 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 145% / 160% / 129% / 180% / 31% / 63% / 44%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 21%, Threshold: 295
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (100)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (544)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Focus / Arcane Ascendance / Black Hole

[wet cape]

I'm at work rn otherwise I would test myself. Thanks for the reply anyways

[harsh abyss]

A lot of strong skills won't struggle for the first few empowered monos. Once you start to get up towards 300 corruption, things start to take a lot longer to kill.

Also, Aberroth on stand-still channeling skills seems to be pretty rough.

[humble umbra]

Yeah, disintegrate isn't good where you need to move, but so far I've very rarely had to. I've been going with face-tanking in mind.

But if you watch the video, or have played it yourself.. this just isn't fun.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I've messed around with it. I tend to not like one-button builds

[humble umbra]

Technically I use all the buttons, but the others are support/maintenance, not set-up

[harsh abyss]

yeah

[wet cape]

If you wanted, you could take flame ward off your bar and switch in teleport/flame rush. Since you are running Astonish on your Flame Ward tree, it will just cast when you get stunned

[humble umbra]

...well, no, the arcane ascendance or what-have-you is set-up of a sort.

[harsh abyss]

You can't really do that with channeling skills because you're immune to stun while channeling. So it'll never trigger automatically

[humble umbra]

If I take flame ward off I won't be able to face-tank as well.

[humble umbra]

Honestly didn't know that. Neat.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, the game doesn't really do a good job telling it to you

[humble umbra]

You should've seen my previous built, where I didn't know disintegrate neither hit nor crit.. ':)

But is this normal, or just a result of disintegrate itself being boring and/or OP?

[harsh abyss]

Sounds pretty normal to me. Games are pretty boring when everything just dies.

Disintegrate is one of those skills that is super strong early, but struggles to scale to the top end. Especially once face tanking becomes not an option

[wet cape]

I was using focus on my runemaster for a while and it feels terrible needing to plant yourself to channel. Just the nature of channeling but I've pivoted away from needing to use focus/channeling and it has been one of the best changes to my build.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, sitting still to channel and do stuff is definitely no fun

[humble umbra]

Guess I should make a new character. Void knight seems pretty cool. Appeals to my inner edgy 12 year old.

[harsh abyss]

If Disintegrate was boring because everything was too easy, I wouldn't make a sentinel 😝

[wet cape]

You could just respec into a different build, its easy enough

[humble umbra]

Well, I have been collecting uniques, and in particular the staff? that changes volcanic orb into void damage..

[glad marten]

There are TONS of other mage skills. You don't have to level up fresh. Sounds like you just don't like disintegrate

[wet cape]

Volcanic orb is a ton of fun, its what I started with on my runemaster. Can't speak on the void combo tho

There's a vorb relic too

[humble umbra]

Yes, I have that one too.

I assume that all +fire/elemental damage will cease to apply if I convert volcanic orb to void.

[humble umbra]

but I'd need to re-gear and re-learn, so may as well restart. I assume that I keep things like faction rep, so it's not like I'm starting from scratch.

[harsh abyss]

Sort of. The base damage and all added adaptive damage will be converted to void (and scale off %void damage, etc). BUT if you have something that add flat damage of a specific type, like Confluence of Fate, it will still be added of that type (and thus scale with whatever type of increases for that type of damage)

[glad marten]

Personally, I think the issue you're dealing with is just that the game is waaaaaay too easy in that part

Levels 50-80, if played naturally (complete campaign -> complete monos) is just trivial for any mildly competent build

And disintegrate really needs threats to feel engaging

[humble umbra]

I'm looking at crest of unity (ele nova is always tri-elemental) and unstable core (+1 lightning, fire, and ice, casting nova 6 times without a 2 second gap gives big boom).. it seems like a potentially fun combo, and wouldn't require a lot of gear changes.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, Ele Nova can be good when you get it up to like +10-15 levels. If you get a +6 crest and slam a +4 nova onto it, it's pretty nutty on its own.

[humble umbra]

But honestly meteor sounds fun, if it's a big boom, but for that I only have the set that makes it lightning.

[harsh abyss]

That's all you really need for meteor

But you can also do it as fire

Int stacking Vilatria meteor is quite strong

[humble umbra]

Would need to look for gear (and change the loot filter, yay) before converting it. And I also have this "fragment of the enigma", but that seems more for more spammy spells.

Yes, I think I will try meteor. It's 3 AM, but what the heck. 😄

...they can dodge meteors. I've not seen any +hit, but is that a thing I should look for?

[harsh abyss]

Nope, some monolith stuff gives monsters a chance to dodge hits

It's kind of annoying, especially for big cast spells like meteor

[wet cape]

I think he means that they can move out of where it has been cast cuz of fall speed ?

[harsh abyss]

Nah, it sounded like they were dodging with the "Dodge" notification, otherwise he wouldn't be asking about +hit (which is a mechanic in other games)

Basically, mostly mobs don't have dodge chance unless they have an affix that grants it, or there's an active monolith modifier that grants it

[humble umbra]

No, they actually dodged, as in "dodged" notification. And now I can't even do the basic level 90 echoes without paying very close attention. 😄

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bry25myQ

Just did some fiddling with the tree, no gear changes, no experience with meteor etc. so it's to be expected. Still didn't expect to get killed by a nemesis without standing in multiple skills.

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 87

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (72)

General:

▸ Health: 1,363, Regen: 21.18/s
▸ Mana: 621.08, Regen: 27.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 168%, Regen: 183/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 33 Int / 15 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 146% / 152% / 130% / 180% / 31% / 63% / 44%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 21%, Threshold: 289
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (100)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (544)

Used skills:

Meteor / Flame Ward / Focus / Arcane Ascendance / Black Hole

[harsh abyss]

yep, that's the dodge from affixes or monolith modifiers

Meteor tends to have pretty mediocre defenses unless you do some specific setups.

[humble umbra]

Also, wow, tooltip DPS drop. And I can really feel it. From IIRC a good chunk over 100K to 23K. ':)

[harsh abyss]

For lightning meteor, you need the Stardust node, it's a solid 80% more damage multiplier

[humble umbra]

Yes, but I'm doing fire for now.

[harsh abyss]

Ah, yeah

[humble umbra]

Due to gear reasons

[harsh abyss]

You generally spec into the 5 meteors if you're going to direct cast it

It ends up as a pretty strong single target

[humble umbra]

Unfortunate. I was hoping that "ME DO BIG BOOM NUKE NOW" would work.

[harsh abyss]

It can, but you have to gear for it

Mana stack and use World Ender + stack crit multi for absolutely massive crits

[humble umbra]

That... does sound quite cool, actually.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, auto crit means you don't need to stack any crti chance. Then get like 1000+ mana so you can cast quite a few before running oom. Then you can spec Focus for Null Profusion to instantly pop you up to ~400 mana when you go negative.

[humble umbra]

Do you think I should return to the beam and have a boring yet quick time to gear up for that, or try to go through with the meteor?

[harsh abyss]

Ehhh, I hate farming on things that I think aren't fun

So I'd just do whatever you find the most fun, but being able to farm empowered monos is a lot better drops than anything before it

[humble umbra]

I think that it's a tad too late and I've had a bit too much wine to make a good call. Thank you for your input, I'll at least not uninstall last epoch. 🙂

Still kinda want to see a cool build that uses the staff that makes "vorb" into a void skill work, simply because "void damage" gets my inner edgy tween to go "hell yes".

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, you probably can, at LEAST until 300 corruption. A lot of builds will cap out before aberroth, but they'll get you most/all of the way there

With really good gearing you can probably do Aberroth on basically any build

[humble umbra]

I love APRGs, but I'm not the sort of person that actually tries for the ultimate late game. If I need to copy-paste someone's build AND farm for specific gear I may as well call it work, unless it's exceptionally fun.

Anyway, 4 AM, thank you for your time and assistance and so on. Have a good night/day/what-have-you. 🙂

[fleet cradle]

Hey there -- You might like the mana guide amulet https://www.youtube.com/live/4FMwo1YmCyg?feature=shared&t=975 it lets you move around while recharging mana during focus. Also some mastery points in mana strike help me regain mana. It gets harder from here. You have good damage but maybe get some more ward decay thresh, mana/regen.

ward gain on hit is nice too

can't go wrong with more armor too

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRgzGBsAcQ

[hybrid schooner]

bro shatter strike uber is impossible

you gotta be an absolute ninja to do this

like i go behind him to avoid the tri slam and he still gets me with it

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYa360Vo about to hang this character up because if i cant do it with this, no amount of upgrades is doing to help. guess im not cut out to be a mele class.

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (80) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,626, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Mana: 162.11, Regen: 11.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 252%, Regen: 225/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 125 Dex / 67 Int / 6 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 107% / 83% / 107% / 120% / 106% / 123% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 725
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (636)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 57% (3,925)

Used skills:

Shatter Strike / Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Teleport / Enchant Weapon

[hybrid schooner]

this is the first build i played in 1.0 and it defeated back then so i thought id give it another shot. I tried. 0-2 on shatter strike

[next lance]

The build looks like paper

[lunar crest]

All Uber kills I've seen done by Shatter builds run glass cannon. I think going on a no-hit run is the only way you get it done on melee.

[molten cobalt]

It is

Hence you gotta be a ninja

God gamer

[next lance]

This is why melee is never considered good in ARPGs 😂😭

And the obvious clear speed differences

Unless you make melee less melee

[proud swift]

How long does flame ward last?

[molten cobalt]

3 or 4 seconds i think

[proud swift]

Thanks

[rose mica]

before a Mage Id made Druid Screwblader tornado - he is as melee as AOE magic :DDD, cuz of items attacking melee create and targetting enemies on a whole screen - total destruction, and he is much better echoes cleaner than my mage right now :F

[proud swift]

Does the node Flame Runner in Flame Ward provide haste throughout the entire duration of Flame ward?

[molten cobalt]

yes, but generally not worth it to get haste from FW as there's easier options

you need 5 points to take that haste node

you need every single FW point you can get

[proud swift]

thanks

Was thinking of a permanent uptime flame ward build XD

[icy heart]

I made a DoT Warlock build which seemed to devastate everything, but I watched my friend play voidknight and it seemed super slow by comparison

Personally I prefer my lightning orb mage for clear - it just blasts everything, super fun

[proud swift]

If you compare to the top performing build/classes of the season then many things will seem super slow 😅 Just play what you enjoy.

Its the best way to play ARPG in my opinion.

[molten cobalt]

everything is slow compared to VK

it is overtuned to high heavens

[icy heart]

Yeah this game seems to really nail allowing even the competitively undertuned classes to do well

[molten cobalt]

other classes are not really undertuned

they just overtuned sentinel massively when they reworked it

thats not actually where they want the power level to be at, sentinel will be nerfed in a pretty big way for next season

[sharp mantle]

you say that but the strongest builds are rogue & primalist.

[molten cobalt]

strongest overall i would say is sentinel

[next lance]

Depends on the build

Devouring Orbs clear really well

Hands free too if you take the node where they generate automatically while moving

[proud swift]

Why does it suck to try and make Runic Invocation the main damage source? I am not even talking about using the entire catalog of spells. Even if you specialise in 1 specific element and focus on 1 specific skill of that element from the spell catalog it still seems to suck. What's the reason for this?

[molten cobalt]

not enough multipliers

and maybe too low base damage

[weary hamlet]

basically this game is based on spamming skills, and invocation has the downside of only being usable 25% of the time. And it just doesn't do 4 times more damage than spammable skills

not to mention, yes, the bad base damage/eff/hit number on most invos

[icy heart]

I see you talking in here a lot Chillon, do you have any personal favourite builds you might suggest?

[molten cobalt]

i tend to get bored at work thats why

i haven't tried many builds personally so can't say I have any favourites

i didn't even play season 1.1

[proud swift]

Should we request for some rework for RuneMaster? It completely defeats the purpose of playing RuneMaster when your catalog of spells is just consistently inferior 😦

[icy heart]

I wasn't being critical, I know that feeling all too well

[weary hamlet]

sure but they have a backlog of at least about 10 classes that are as bad or even worse, and they will never be able to deliver on the invoker class fantasy anyways cause it goes directly contrary to the rest of their game design

like why would you choose to use skills manually, slowly and thougtfully when you can just automate everything and spam procs and one button builds that do a lot more damage and are a lot more braindead in piloting

it's just math

[proud swift]

Because I like an active playstyle and don't want to play walking simulator where I am just moving around trying not to get hit...

It was basically the reason I could never get into POE because at end game everything boiled down to a walking simulator build.

[hollow vector]

(prioritizing subjective fun) most popular mage mastery? (:

Or what are some of your favorite skills to level?

[proud swift]

If automation is where the dev team would like to take this game then that is their choice and I won't be against it. Its just not the kind of game I can play because at that point I don't really see a difference between such a game and a game like afk hero.

[molten cobalt]

PoE2 tried it your way, with the amazon or whatever the hell they called the new class. You were supposed to parry and shit to get extra damage and extra other stuff. People absolutely hated it and chose to ignore that entire part of the class

[proud swift]

Yes, I am aware that majority of the poeple who like to play ARPG games prefer not to press buttons. I am just not one of them.

[smoky barn]

True... you can't use invocation as a spammable. I know from experience. It's much better to consider invocation as a low cooldown ability tbh. (Since you need a small setup time to trigger the double invoc for extra damage)

It's best to use something else as a spammable and use invocation every now and then, depending on how you use it.

I do like the ele pen passive you get from the invocation by int stacking.

[cosmic dove]

the issue is baked into most of LE design. non-invocation damage spells rarely do the damage
lightning blast doesn't do the damage--spark charges do
frost claw isn't used for damage--it stacks ailments really well
<pick your lightning spell> doesnt do damage--it procs brand of deception which does the damage
the invocations are 'balanced' vs these spells and as pointed out ^^ also can't be spammed. they are doomed by design.

[weary hamlet]

you chose the wrong genre for that, arpgs are almost universally about this kind of degenerate gameplay, you might want to try fighting games or idk some kind of a soulslike

[cosmic dove]

I played around with a build based on Frey's Retreat. I cast frost wall and got the blizzard invocation. I was getting Heo runes, so I manually added blizzard invocations. 4 or 5 stacked blizzards? almost no damage
the frost wall itself was much better damage

[weary hamlet]

yeah this is a different but related problem, which I would label the shadow dagger syndrome

and instead of fixing shadow dagger they went on and functionally added it to other classes too

like take a look at primalist, nearly all direct damage builds are now about storm bolt

what your skills do doesn't even matter as long as they deliver storm bolts

and if they don't they likely suck

you want to be a shaman? you play storm bolt. You want to be a bear? You play storm bolt. You want to be a cheap aliexpress khazix knock off? Still playing storm bolt

[weary hamlet]

the joke is that the CCC invo still doesn't do damage even if you fully optimize it with criterion and reowyn's, two of the two worst designed unique items in this game

[cosmic dove]

this is a standard ARPG issue in addition to the 1-button (or zero button) build addiction
whirlwind in D4 doesnt do damage, spawned tornados do
lightning spear in D4 doesnt do damage, an aspect proc does

[weary hamlet]

yea this is the primary reason why I'm only playing arpgs/le intermittently when I want some dumb button spam, these games go out of their way to remove the actual gameplay from themselves

like piloting any of my WOW characters in M+ is fun because there is depth, nuance, and skill expression there

[cosmic dove]

a lot of people defend/explain it by saying they want to get into a "zen" state, grind for 10+ hours while watching anime on a 2nd monitor

[weary hamlet]

"piloting" most of my LE characters doesn't even merit being called that, they mostly pilot themselves

[cosmic dove]

I never got into that but I guess I understand it

[cerulean plinth]

My enjoyment in these games usually comes from gear progression and character growth. Once upgrades start becoming too big of a grind I either quit or move on to an alt

The gear acquisition in this game is enjoyable to me which is what has kept me playing

[cosmic dove]

I keep telling myself to take a break and wait for season 3
I get an idea, go to the planner, have fun coming up with something, test it in game...and run into the "it's not designed for that" problem

it is fun at its core though, which is a good thing

[weary hamlet]

just take a break for a while, I've been playing very little these last few weeks, still have quite a few build projects unfinished

[ionic siren]

Does placing 2 glyph of dominions on top of each other stack the buffs?

[proud swift]

Seems like No Rest For The Wicked is an ARPG with an active playstyle according to its commmunity.

[smoky barn]

Eh, I mean... there are ways to play with an active playstyle. It's not most optimal, but it can work.

[spare glen]

does anyone know how this less duration works with ramp up dmg on orbiting static orb , does it still ramp to 100% more but in 2 seconds now but it caps at 60% now?

[latent cove]

Why dont I find any meteor builds, especially with Vilatria set? Damage seems insane to me

[spare glen]

what content are you doing

people tested it and its low dps on uber

[latent cove]

I don't really care about uberroth on this character

but yea I guess it's just not meta enough

[spare glen]

if u dont care for uber then its amazing

[amber stone]

what's the deal with a lot of runemasters using cleaver solution and going full strength?

what does that enable

[hybrid schooner]

@next lancebuild looks like paper? with nearly 4k health, null portent, red ring. as a spellblade? lol

literally what else can you do

double t7 on every piece of gear? yes paper

[next lance]

Something can be well geared and still be paper, weird right?

[hybrid schooner]

well it is paper youre not wrong. but theres not much else to do

shatter strikes toolkit is inherently built to scale ward. which does not scale well at all anymore. i suppose you could go all in on ward but it just doesnt scale well for the investment, and loss of everything else

mapping and general bossing is fine. not a problem there. i have an endurance setup im still working on putting together as an option which is really just mountain boots and maybe wall of nothing. but you have to dodge something every half second in that fight so the endurance would prbably not have great up time

[molten cobalt]

It’s the most optimal version of brand of deception

[amber stone]

yeah, I found it

[molten cobalt]

STR giving defense and cleaver gives you int 1:1 to your STR so indirectly STR gives you everything int gives

So it’s best of both worlds

[amber stone]

so many possible builds out there

[molten cobalt]

And since brand is an ailment it doesn’t care about spell damage

[hybrid schooner]

the cheest converts your str into your damage stat anyways

[molten cobalt]

So not using a wand is no loss

Yeah criterion chest gives damage based on your str

[amber stone]

I'm just amazed how there are so many interactions possible throughout the game and it's all reasonably balanced

[molten cobalt]

Mage is not reasonably balanced

It’s underpowered

[hybrid schooner]

i think he means like its balanced within itself

but relative no

like all the sskill and stat swaps aand conversions and interactions and its still somehow balanced

[molten cobalt]

Fair

[hybrid schooner]

its pretty wild actually. im sure when they re-tool a class it takes a tremendous amount of effort

[amber stone]

right, and also like there isn't a single item that's going to take a build and mkae it do 1000x more damage because of some broken interaction, and if there is, there are very few cases of that

[molten cobalt]

Well there is

Criterion is that item

But it’s by design, poor design

Runemaster has almost zero power without that chest piece

[hybrid schooner]

ya, the complexity of the interactions is definitely something else.

i suppose without the chest youd have to be a straight intel built

like RM frostclaw use to be

[molten cobalt]

Today it’s sorc frostclaw

[hybrid schooner]

im not sure why. can we not acces the invocation anymore?

[molten cobalt]

It’s just better now