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potent echo
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Oh right I actually came here for a reason. I've noticed that occasionally in certain spots Shatter Strike seems to cast "sideways" and doesn't actually hit anything. Usually moving a step in any direction fixes it. Is this a bug and if so is it a new one?

harsh abyss
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I think its the same bug as accidentally clicking on "top" of terrain and shooting projectiles/aoe skills in the wrong spot.

molten cobalt
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CoF can be really time consuming as well

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which is why I like trade, but efficient trade

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PoE stash tabs connected to trade site makes it very easy to set price and administrate your sales

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and buyer always ports to seller

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item up for sale gets highlighted in stash

potent echo
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I just meant that in terms of them both having the same system of "several different interactable locations" but CoF can swap between them in UI while MG apparently can't

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Seems odd

molten cobalt
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yeah thats a bit odd

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should just be 1 trade window with categories for every item tab

potent echo
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I've never played PoE so I have no comparison for useability of MG and it doesn't really affect me anyways since I will always pick CoF

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So I've not even been inside the MG hub lol

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But definitely seems like there's some improvements just to the UI that could help

molten cobalt
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I'm sure EHG knows

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would be impossible for them not to know

rustic gulch
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Hey for build that run wrong warp is there any replacement ?

I'm just wondering can you instead go for a big 2 handed weapon or is something like wrongwarp and scale of ettera just always going to be stronger ?

trail leaf
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is meteor not viable for 1k corruption?

rustic gulch
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I mean technically everything is 1kc viable

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If the gear is good enough

molten cobalt
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that I have my doubts about

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some mage builds just don't have it in them

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to efficiently do 1k that is

trail leaf
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lightning blast is good but I dont want it to be my main skill for the whole mage life

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I initially want lightning meteor tbh

rustic gulch
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I did enjoy LB spark charges

trail leaf
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yeah same

rustic gulch
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Managed to solve my dmg also with teleport spawning 3 novas for lots of Spark charges while moving

trail leaf
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actually I like chain lightning more tbh

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but spark charge is better

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I just like the animation of chaining shit hehe

rustic gulch
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Still going back and forth on glacier sorc vs LB spark charges.

As I'm not a huge fan of wrong warp and like ladel. But not sure if ladel glacier sorc is like some meme build.

rustic gulch
trail leaf
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yeah Im still on the campaign

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Im gonna place convergence as the last point

boreal widget
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Are there any uber (within reason) capable builds not utilizing snapshotting for mage?

trail leaf
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whats snap shotting?

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like move shot move shot?

rustic gulch
boreal widget
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The current meta of swapping gear -> using ability for buff -> swapping back to different gear.

trail leaf
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ahh

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Im on controller so I dont know if thats viable for that kind of gameplay hehe

rustic gulch
boreal widget
rustic gulch
boreal widget
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Which mage builds scale well enough without like all 3lp gear?

trail leaf
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ahh

sharp mantle
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hydrahedron can snapshot but you can also do it without snapshotting and it does tons of reliable damage to uberroth while you dodge

rustic gulch
silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (61) / Runemaster (32)

General:

▸ Health: 1,680, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,018.4, Regen: 13.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 163%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 5 Dex / 74 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 60% / 76% / 60% / 56% / 86% / 61% / 101%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 336
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,431)

trail leaf
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question, whats the point of killing Uberroth? is there some really great chance for rare gear for grinding him or like just an achievement

rustic gulch
trail leaf
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ah so both

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are those gears worth it tho

sharp mantle
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yeah his gear is worth it

trail leaf
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sorry I came from D4 (preseason, yes its disappointing) and killing Uber Lilith was just more of an achievement that something worth killing for

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thanks guys, Im still new to Last Epoch

craggy crest
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I'm trying to work towards killing uberroth

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And I still get insta gibbed by harbingers and shades

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At 400 corruption lmao

rustic gulch
trail leaf
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for now I just wanna reach 1k corruption

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Ill consider uberroth later

rustic gulch
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1k is a big goal.

My goal is just 300c

trail leaf
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is the difference worth it tho?

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300c vs 1000c?

rustic gulch
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Yeah each bit of corruption is like a more multiplier

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If people character were able to consistently farm 1k corruption they were pushing for uber

trail leaf
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I see

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cause in D4 higher levels of pit were like useless

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cause same drop rates

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kekw

rustic gulch
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Basically up to 300c you get lots of bonus. 300 to 1k you get some scaling and then 1k+ is just silly numbers

trail leaf
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just higher exp

unreal blade
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rarity scales infinitely

trail leaf
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so youre saying 300c is already good and realistic?

rustic gulch
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Yeah you can technically push like 5k corruption to get loads of rare items but you will also die like 10 times per area

trail leaf
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lmao

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nah I dont want that

unreal blade
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depends on the build

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strength runemaster can farm at 5k, probably doesn't die that much

rustic gulch
unreal blade
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but you need very good gear for that

trail leaf
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thanks guys all of this is so helpful

rustic gulch
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Yeah it's sort of about the reward vs time taken.

If you can clear 5 zones at 1k corruption and it takes same as 1 zone in 5k corruption it's better to do more in less corruption

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I remember when I was new and I was like yeah 9k corruption is totally normal right

trail leaf
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Ill finish the campaign fornow kekw Ive recreated like 3 mages already cause I was thinking my build sucked lol

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or wont do good at the end

unreal blade
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basically you want to go as high as you can without time taken either for the clear or for additional deaths. if you are powerful enough to clear 1k at the same speed as 500, no reason to farm at 500. if you die sometimes at 1000 but never at 800, then maybe 800 is best. stuff like that.

trail leaf
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sounds fair

rustic gulch
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Yeah that's why I plan to just sit at 300c

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Actually farm and learn what's going on and then possibly push to 500c ect

trail leaf
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would you say that 300c is like casual

rustic gulch
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Well depends. I'd call "casual" you hit lv60

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Don't even get to 1c

molten cobalt
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as if hitting lvl100 is hard in this game

trail leaf
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kekw

molten cobalt
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its actually too easy

rustic gulch
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I mean I have over 200 hours played on steam and hit lv75 this season as my highest character

molten cobalt
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is that 200h in this season alone?

rustic gulch
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Nah total

molten cobalt
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well then you are an uber casual

rustic gulch
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I think this season is maybe 30h total across all character

trail leaf
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Ive had 37 hrs since monday

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am I a casual

molten cobalt
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30h on ONE character this far into this season isnt even much

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30h spread out on multiple is very little

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so i doubt you'll hit lvl100

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at that pace

rustic gulch
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Nah 30h across like 5 characters

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It's why I decide to go from HC back to SC

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I mean now I'll have my one character

trail leaf
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same

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Ive deleted 3 chars

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lol

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too much analysis paralysis

rustic gulch
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Still between spark charge LB or glacier sorc.

But I mean I can swap between the two if I get a big Enigma or big mana item

molten cobalt
rustic gulch
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Wait not it's been 56h this season

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But I now have my actual character concept ready to go

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Spent alot of time just leveling things up to test out

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My worry with glacier is hitting crit cap with seed helmet.

I would have like 23% base crot

molten cobalt
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you dont need 100% crit chance

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its not even worth it

rustic gulch
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I guess with 3 hits and each hit that crits giving back 1% of total mana. I can do fine with like 70-80% total chance

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I mean ill have 17% base before any item or crit chance. Like 17% just from base skill

past hedge
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damn the new animation when chanelling focus with mana guide looks ridiculous LOL.. was fine the way it was.

cerulean plinth
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Speaking of time played....I have over 200 hours this season

cerulean plinth
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Actually over 200 now gg

past hedge
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Used to be a T-pose with the weapon in front of you, which looked fine.

cerulean plinth
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Interesting. Not sure if I prefer that or the t pose

past hedge
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If you prefer this then someone needs to check your harddrive

rustic gulch
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Just make the T pose a skill cosmetic

harsh abyss
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Yeah, the T pose was better, but it's not that big of a deal

bleak wind
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Why do I like this more XD

harsh abyss
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Personal preference, mostly

hybrid schooner
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brother. im trying to make shatter strike work this season but this is what happens when you walk up to a tiny trash mob in an echo

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insta bonk

harsh abyss
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What corruption are you at?

weary hamlet
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wtf is a drowned husk even

hybrid schooner
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750, it should not be like this

weary hamlet
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also is spirit barrage a weaver ability?

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don't remember dying to it

hybrid schooner
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it was the first mele hit as soon as i ran up to this guy

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like, tiny little guy

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (25) / Spellblade (80) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,219, Regen: 30.42/s
▸ Mana: 172.21, Regen: 13.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 289%, Regen: 220/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 122 Dex / 67 Int / 6 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 76% / 89% / 118% / 78% / 116% / 74%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 644
▸ Dodge Chance: 19% (626)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (3,415)

hybrid schooner
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shit wildly underpowered

blazing root
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It is the shotgun ability that does a few hits

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Not sure if they can be simultaneous and be considered one hit or not, but they're the little blueish projectiles

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Think they usually shoot 3

hybrid schooner
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i udnerstand that but its the first thing this little trash mob did as soon as u engage it. like unavoidable

blazing root
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Yes, same problem I have on MM lol

hybrid schooner
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every fight with this spellblade is a fight for life, every single monster has a death threat

sterile pelican
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anyone try the hydrahedron rm build this season? how's it play?

potent echo
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I played it for a bit, my gear was pretty garbage but it felt okay. I wasn't huge about how uncontrollable their targeting was though.

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Stuff like the weaver bosses in tombs it'd waste most of the projectiles on the random adds that do nothing which would severely lower your damage.

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That probably kinda gets solved with better gear although idk if there's a way to scale hydrahedron cast rate apart from the box

craggy crest
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My ehp seems decent....around 4k for one shots but it sure doesn't feel like it lol

hybrid schooner
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the devs of this game must get off on making every mob put a death circle on the ground. every omb dude

craggy crest
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I had one map where I go up to two Diamond matron and the first ability they both did was the magic laser that I couldn't even avoid lmao

hybrid schooner
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witho NO cooldown

craggy crest
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Tell me about it I gave up on it lol

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Maybe I can go down to 300 instead of 400 but I'll still get one shot by the harbys

hybrid schooner
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its actually use to be a lot worse. seams like theyve reduced the number of encounters with the more cancerous mobs. for example the little lighting totem things. some maps they were just everywhere bombing you from off screen and the circiel was impossible to see sometimes

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the 10x harby echo does not seam at all to scale with the corruption its suppose to be

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like the harbys in uber aberoth are far easier

craggy crest
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I was surprised how tanky they were

hybrid schooner
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ya exaclty, they are not proportonate to the corruption level

craggy crest
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I wasn't shredding them that hard...and I have 15% pen w/ cold shred.

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I did see one shatter strike player that did Uber abby

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And I wouldn't consider it glass cannon but it has less than 2k HP lol, it's all damage reduction

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No CDR though and I don't wanna manually activate enchant weapon :/.

harsh abyss
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Does anyone NOT take the auto-activation branch?

hybrid schooner
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ya i think no cdr at all is a problem

craggy crest
hybrid schooner
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no ive seen it

craggy crest
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I'm so stat starved already tho idk where to put everything

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I need health, leech, crit multi, dex because my crit chance is carried off base crit from a pair of scissors rn

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I don't even have attack speed yet

hybrid schooner
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all your crit comes from passives and your dex

craggy crest
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...mana because I'd rather not have less than 200 mana but maybe I should sacrifice it

craggy crest
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And then found out it ain't doing to much for me

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And I didn't see the flat damage scaling from dex either so...my fault for not reading

hybrid schooner
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crit chance is free

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maybe try these boots. its an easy lp2 to get your cdr. and are 20% faster than any other shoe

craggy crest
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I was thinking about those, I'm using mountain boots right now for the endurance

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But I'm sooo slowww

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I gotta get a kestrel to probabaly...or a woven I can't really decide which I wanna go with. The thing I like about bonus crit reduction is the extra flat armor with it.

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But it would free up other slots

hybrid schooner
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u have 1lp mountatin with crit redux?

craggy crest
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2 lP mountain w/ T5 Movement speed and T7 max roll CDR

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I'd be missing the endurance but....idk I think at this point I'd value the MS than the less one shot potential because it aint one shots killing me, its 3 big hits within short timeframes that kill me

hybrid schooner
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3lp kestrel is also anther freebie, should be easy to do

craggy crest
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yeee I need to do that...I wanted to try and get a chest piece to imprint beforehand though

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I actually got lucky and got a +4

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What's good to slam on the kestrel? The +skills, dex, and I assume health after that? Or do we put bonus reduced crit in the chest piece?

hybrid schooner
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if you nee crit redux its gotta be there

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you can do t7 and 75 crit redux elsewhere and not slot it on chest

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this is what i did now that my redux is handled elsewhere

craggy crest
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I planned on putting CDR in the belt...but man it sucks to have to give up either dex or the health in the chestpiece

hybrid schooner
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ya exactly, chest already fighting for stats

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and if you do cdr belt, 2-3lp is super rare so no health

craggy crest
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and when I get double red rings its gonna be 11.5 seconds on Enchant weapon...I need 9 seconds :/

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Well...I could farm a 4 LP Kestrel I guess....the odds aint that bad right?

hybrid schooner
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no youll get it

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i had a few

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i just leave the 3lp on the ground now

craggy crest
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Ill just have to give up increased armor

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why no hybrid health in belt btw?

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Is increased health better in that case?

hybrid schooner
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ya

craggy crest
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and do you use the doom ring?

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or the boots w/ double red ring?

hybrid schooner
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i been farming 2lp symied for a week

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never seen it

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and idk if we have enough leech without doom unles running null chest

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unless its on a sword somewhere

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leech is the onyl thing keeping us alive cause the ward is almost nothing

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flat out on a target duummie and im just over 4k ward

craggy crest
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I got like 2k ward just doing nothing lol

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it's all health

hybrid schooner
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with bloody nib on, ward tops out at 3300

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3k health, 330 ward. by the time you get to 1k corr everything will hit double that

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3300*

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i thought i was building this to be tanky but i guess not

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i have another 2lp vise gloves i want to slam but i dont know what to put there

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mele attack, and was thinking experimental Dot redux, or hybrid health

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i mean or just more damage,

craggy crest
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Im using the weaver's relic instead of nib

hybrid schooner
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ya i map with this

craggy crest
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i was thinking of farming that to for maps, im guessing nib is for bossing?

hybrid schooner
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the bleed is just deleting ur ward with nib. but if you dont use it on boss you will do like half damage

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why does my less damage taken say 2....

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i have red ring and shattered world on

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this is why

craggy crest
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doesnt double red give 20% tho

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it shouldn't be....that low no?

hybrid schooner
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10, i didnt have world on at the time. also flat damage recduction dimishes like verything else

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two red rings would be 20, but its 19

craggy crest
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dang, it's rough out here for SS lol

hybrid schooner
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switch back to teleport instead of surge and pulling some of the nodes on the left side. makes tp cooldown too long

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prob gonne get the middle bottom nodes

harsh abyss
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The ward nodes in teleport are really strong if you're just using it for buffs and not for the free mana spell

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Especially if you're stacking health

hybrid schooner
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ya thats what im lookn at

craggy crest
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Im using TP for the free buffs and just using the ward nodes, I tried to use the free CDR node but uhh....I didn't even notice it tbh so I specced out of it

hybrid schooner
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ya its weird, you think it would actively reduce anything that on cooldown right. but no if you scroll over flame shield, it reduces cooldown if you activate a spell within the time frame

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it SHOULD work as an active reduction on current cooldowns but nah

hybrid schooner
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almost 700 ward every teleport and 50% retention. not had

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bad

unborn ravine
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might sound like a stupid question, but when making a build, should you use a unique item in every slot with how crafting works?

hybrid schooner
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no. unless you had ALL lp4 items. your portentialy losing a lot of necessary stats

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some uniqies that you need to wear for a build you wont find beyond 1lp, so there goes 3/4 of your affixes

unborn ravine
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wait some items wont spawn with more than 1lp?

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or do you mean itll take forever to find items like that with more than 1

hybrid schooner
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exacly my point. yes up to 4lp

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certain items its very impractical to even target farm beyond 1-2 lp

unborn ravine
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oooh i see i see yeah the chances on some are insane how the hell would that even be possible???

hybrid schooner
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so ya if you had 4lp eveerything, sure put a uniq item in every slot

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but some builds just literally are uniqe if every slot. and they are very difficult to build right when half the items are incredibly rare to see higher than 1-2lp on

unborn ravine
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good god yeah thank you!

harsh abyss
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I mean, late game every build should probably be a unique in most every slot

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Except for sets or really specific base types, uniques are usually gonna be better at the 2lp+ level

rotund pine
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is this bugged? i dont see any additional effect

harsh abyss
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The visual isnt very visible but it works unless they broke it in a hotfix

rotund pine
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i only see the lightning effect but nothing else :( okay

hybrid schooner
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unslammed wall of nothing and mountain boots, no endurance anywhere. thinking this chest has some value if i can slam a 2lp. wouldnt have to resist stack like with the null

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how does endurance work on it. lets say if you have 10k EHP. and you get hit for 10k, would it just one shot or would it factor in the 50% dr below threshold

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would be dope if you could run low life and have that DR apply to the ward

harsh abyss
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Yeah, it applies to damage that takes you below the threshold

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Do if you have 5k health and 2.5k, 50% endurance, and you take a hit for 3000 (with no other defenses), you'll take 2750 damage (2500 above the threshold and 500 past threshold and reduced by 50% endurance)

hybrid schooner
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alright

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would be pretty silly if the endurace threshold was nealy all of your health

harsh abyss
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The thing about the boots is that you can stack some dodge rating to get a ton of threshold. I think it'll be solid defense if you can get a well rolled Wall. So if you have 3000 dodge, that becomes 3000 endurance threshold, which becomes ALSO 2550 ward threshold

hybrid schooner
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hmm

harsh abyss
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With those boots, it's VERY easy to have enough endurance threshold to cover your entire life pool

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I have a 3lp Ward Trail, and if you stack T7 flat dodge and T5 % dodge on it, you can get like 600 or so dodge just from the belt

hybrid schooner
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60% dr on all health sounds wild

harsh abyss
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I wish I could stack a bit more damage on my channeled LB build. It just feels so low compared to the meteor spam

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But because of the way channeled LB works, you can't really stack much else on top of it like you can with a lot of builds.

hybrid schooner
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this cahr is beyond garbage righ tnow

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literally a garbage class dude. cant even do the fkn uniqe affix reroll echo

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jsut as im slapping them in the face they 1 shot me

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unavoidable damage

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700 corr with nearly BIS gear double t7 everywhere. it should not be this try hard

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i feel like i trying to polish a turd

rustic gulch
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Okay decided on what I'll be playing now. Glacier is a bit awkward to aim on controller.

So spark charge rune master is a go. Using ele nova + tp that spawn nova for clear and LB for single target.

Since that character is mostly just scaling via Int stacking

  • Enigma flat dmg per int
  • ladel cast speed per int
  • frost guard ward per int
  • ward retention per int
  • cooldown per int
  • crit chance per int

And then it's just about sustaing mana costs at that stage.

rotund pine
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does this get casted on me or on my target?

fresh bobcat
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how to make shatter strike build more tanky

woven yarrow
hybrid schooner
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no never seen it

woven yarrow
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After ward gen nerfs I think LL is best for ward atm

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My lb build with bis heart gear barely goes over 6k ward

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But LL can easily do 10k

hybrid schooner
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whats ll

woven yarrow
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Low life

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With ward per missing health gear

hybrid schooner
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i mean i have this. but right off rip you lose half damage cuase no bleed

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some kind of new animation when wearing this chest?

woven yarrow
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Oh yea rip, no bleed kinda sucks

hybrid schooner
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but ya i see the ward already just wit that. let me fid gloves and boots just for kicks

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all 3 LL pieces 6600 ward if i dont change anything else, and i lost about 1k health from my slams too. so ya

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i see it. maybe good for mapping tho cuase i dont ike to use nib there anyways

woven yarrow
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Yea

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If you could never potions to ward too they give a decent heal

hybrid schooner
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another bricked vise. and i cant reliably farm uber either

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even the str stack mage. ive done it a few times. everything is cake up until the last circle

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do i need to make a time rot so i can kill it in 5 hits

smoky barn
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I know some would say that he's "EZ", but Normal Aberroth's a pretty challenging boss fight (unless you run a build that melts him down in a minute or less, no doubt).

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I will kill him for sure later.

rustic gulch
woven yarrow
rustic gulch
woven yarrow
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for reference i have 1.8k life and 430 retention and have 8k ward

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thats with T7 LL mod on gloves

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Also like over 1k ward decay threshold from sorc int>decay threshold

rustic gulch
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Where's all that ward retention coming from ?

Idols or something or just massive int. I have often seen builds however around 250-300 range

woven yarrow
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I have 220 int

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Xd

rustic gulch
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Ahh big smarts

woven yarrow
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Can get more but all my idols and gear is dmg

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Like no ward retention idols at all

rustic gulch
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That makes sense. I'm planning a fairly tanky build so another 50% from passive tree and possibly some from idols.

Wait actually if I'm LL can't use the ox chest for DR.

woven yarrow
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It's kinda bait tbh

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If u want Dr, static shell probably more reliable

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Dr from armour is probably similar

rustic gulch
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Yeah the ox chest is currently bugged with ward also.

Yeah static shell would also give some dmg boost.

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As I'm runemaster instead of sorc. Cos stacking all that int also gives ward from frostguard and cooldown

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My other concept was just straight up get mana + dmg taken to mana + lost knowledge + Seed helmet.

And then I could use idols like increase lightning dmg at 300 mana.

woven yarrow
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you can try flameward dmg to mana first to see how your mana sustain will be

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but its not gonna be good

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also the flameward dmg to mana affects ward

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^^

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pretty underrated node

rustic gulch
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Yeah that was my issue going sorc and mana stuff

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It's why I was thinking runemaster as in your case having 220 int would be

Initial ward of 760
Ward per sec of 600

rugged shell
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Since you can get around 1000 ward per sec from being LL without alot of hp investement

rustic gulch
rugged shell
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Last steps of the living 15% exanguinous (wtvr the name is) body 20% gloves t7 affix 20% so it's 55% at max

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Unless I'm missing something

rustic gulch
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Ahh so less than I thought

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20 chest
20 gloves
Belt ?

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I guess with 55% that still like 2k ward per sec

rugged shell
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Don't think belt has one

rugged shell
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Like atleast 300 from mage passives

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And ward retention/threshold from int

rustic gulch
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Yeah that's true

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I guess it's just personal preference I like runemaster. That cooldown based on int does feel nice

rugged shell
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It's all about consistent gain vs conditional gain

rustic gulch
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But can always change mastery now

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But I guess leech + twisted heart works while attacking vs ll is all the time

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Might play around with static shell also tho if I'm not LL

warped crow
sharp mantle
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I think the vessel of strife approach has a lot of merit vs LL or twisted heart tbh

rustic gulch
sharp mantle
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regen on gear, str stacking with cleaver solution & last bear affix on gloves.

Obviously not applicable to every build but when it works you're getting tons of EHP/s

rustic gulch
#

Ahh yeah i can see it with str stacker type setup

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For my current planner I have like no regen tho

sharp mantle
#

yeah regen is kind of all or nothing, one or two regen affixes alone is totally worthless

rustic gulch
#

Yeah that's true

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My current thing is more about low life vs just leech + some ward ontop.

Like do I want 4k hp and 4k ward over just like 10k ward but ll

sharp mantle
#

but if you fully build into it you're really tough, endurance DR and ward regen being faster the lower your ward is lets you survive some really crazy stuff

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Ward effectively regens slower the closer to its ward equilibrium is, and you can't take advantage of the highest rate of ward regen because you can't do any health tanking.

That's the key thing imo, when you're dipping into your health on a regen setup you have amazingly high effective recovery between your ward trying to regen and your health regen

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and unlike just health + leech setups you have the ward buffer against one-shots in more situations

rustic gulch
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Yeah my plan was to go life + leech and then a ward buffer also.

So it was like 4khp + leech then like 4-5k ward

rugged shell
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Also a shame since u can't get shattered lance set bonus with it. Would be kind of too crazy though

hybrid schooner
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does strife apply health regen directly to wps? it doesnt actually say

rustic gulch
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Yeah

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So I used it for BM. Had 1k regen which then gave 400 ward per sec (40% roll)

molten cobalt
#

i always wondered why the fire lizards and their fire puddle were so freakin ridiculously OP

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patch notes explains why

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also t-pose mage now being floppy bird mage is hilarious

hybrid schooner
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lol what

molten cobalt
#

check the animation

hybrid schooner
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i gotta log on that to see

molten cobalt
#

looks ridiculous

hybrid schooner
#

oh wtf

molten cobalt
hybrid schooner
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ya i guess we cant vall it tpose anymore

molten cobalt
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indeed we cannot

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floppy bird / air paddeling mage

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kinda like t-pose more

hybrid schooner
#

it would make sense if his animation was in sync with the static pulse but its not

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seams like some wasted energy to be concerned with our tpose animation

molten cobalt
#

yeah not the most well spent time perhaps

hybrid schooner
#

yuh i spent too much time off the str mage. i was starting to think that my spellblade was a good farmer

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i wonder how much area you could get on shatter strike. can we do the entire screen. asking for a friend

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its just gloves and neck for area right

placid snow
#

i am shatterstrike spellblade first time playing this game and it's fun, but idk how to craft gear or upgrade it so i don't understand what my max stats look like

hybrid schooner
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well, theres no one way to craft. it really depends a lot on what the piece looks like initially

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start forging and crafting as soon as youre able. no reason to wait

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the only things youll want to use sparingly are havoc and redemption runes. i would not bother burning those early game

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@placid snowshatter strike, or any spellblade is a relatively challenging class to play. i enjoy the play a lot. but its cute compared to what some other builds can do

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area with 2h on

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thats the world splitter which has even more area

rustic gulch
#

Hey anyone got a link to a ward calculator

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As just realised with just frostguard + 200 odd int is have 550 ward per sec and 400 retention. So wanna know how much that actually gives

rustic gulch
#

Yeah so my guess was about right. Frostguard + 200 int is 4k ward. Without any other ward stuff.

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4.2k if I include the 50% retention passive

stark chasm
#

hey, this combo gives me fire cold cold for runic invo with the skill bar node that gives runes based on elements (snap freeze place holder until I get frost wall) tho it should give cold fire cold per BinaQ video, I cant see a way to convert teleport to cold?

hybrid schooner
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i dont think so

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u can put another snap there i guess

stark chasm
#

yeah, its weird as he has teleport flame ward frost wall and it gives cold fire cold

hybrid schooner
#

dont have flame rush yet?

stark chasm
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nope just leveling wanted to test if this thing works right out of the gate with placeholder setup but I must miss something

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his setup

placid snow
hybrid schooner
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ya i was just doing that for shits, i dont recommend using a 2h

lunar crest
hybrid schooner
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nah ex

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1 t7 affix on scissor and the other sword should be eye of reen anyways

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just get t7 scissor attacks speed/crit multi/flat damage. slam 2lp reen with attack speed and flat/cold/multi

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just work around the scissor you get. and re roll the base stats of scissor in the woven echo

lunar crest
hybrid schooner
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yas

lunar crest
#

I haven't tried weaver items on gauntlet, interesting.

hybrid schooner
#

for weaver items it must have the same or higher level of weavers will. even if its allready weaed u can reroll

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do not discard scissors with trash weaves if they over like 14 weave. save for rerolls

lunar crest
#

What stats of Scissors are worth rerolling for?

hybrid schooner
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attack speed, and +skill. mostly _ skil

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it will also reroll the weaved affixes. as long as it get the t7 on it nice, and the +2 skill u good

lunar crest
hybrid schooner
#

value

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i have 3 pages that look like this

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weave all ths scissors u see. even an 8 wp. u can still get a t7 prefix and shred armor there

rustic gulch
hybrid schooner
#

right

rustic gulch
#

To get the right runes for frostguard you sort of need multiple skill slots to make sure you can convert stuff

hybrid schooner
#

what build he using frostguard on

rustic gulch
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Spark charge

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I took the core concept and changes it a little for some more clear speed. His is more single target style with spark charge explode to clear

hybrid schooner
#

wouldnt worry about the frostguar until u can convert and have the right spells. its just ward

rustic gulch
#

Basically since you already scale int for ladel cast speed and Enigma for flat dmg frostguard just let's you also scale ward via frostguard

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But I mean before mono I just leveled and used the runic invocation for pure cast speed buff and random runes

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His build sort of requires like lv70 or so to start.

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But the thing I like is ele nova + tp. With enough nova aoe you tp spawns 3 nova that all overlap + Enigma base 1 from tp.

So clearing is just up big cooldown and tp around

smoky barn
#

All the ele nova synergies are fun to use.

rustic gulch
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Yeah just something about running up to a boss and tp like 1 pixel to spawns 5 spark charges on the boss

smoky barn
#

Alright, I killed normal aberroth. Ye ye, I know, too ez, I'm a scrub, real gamers kill uber for breakfast

lunar crest
hybrid schooner
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no, folly is part of my farm route. so like 1/6 echoes are folly

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also i have folly imprinted to it shows up often

rustic gulch
smoky barn
hybrid schooner
#

has never once produced yet. ive had it there for several days

potent echo
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I got one this morning, first one I've seen.

hybrid schooner
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i have it imprinted too. much higher chance of boots/ring/belt if u farming those. pretty average to see 4 rings, 2 boots ,1 belt

buoyant monolith
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I’ve gotten a couple of those. I feel like it’s a 50% rate from shades. I’ve never seen one from a Tomb though.

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Does it work with the weaver node that allows shades to pop up randomly?

hybrid schooner
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idk i heard that one is incredibly rare too

harsh abyss
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I specc'd those nodes for a while and never got anything, so decided to unspec them

hybrid schooner
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couple changes to what i use mapping. attack speed instead of flat, and the stun chance. also maximizing area

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seams effeective

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oo just remember that these exhist. idk they 4x1.

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could be about 66 wps with the right weave on it

hybrid schooner
#

immortal eye prohecies seam to be broken. i have 6 prophs for them. just killed a whole bunch in mono and no progress or completions

viral helm
#

any good chainlightning builds out there

molten cobalt
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thats horrible

hybrid schooner
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do you have any idea what youre talking about

molten cobalt
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melee build where you must stop moving to attack

hybrid schooner
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o ya

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is pretty bad

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i thought u meant what i was using in general

unreal blade
hybrid schooner
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idk chillon im tryn to polish a turd here

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@unreal blademaybe, i didnt look. its been days and ive killed alll kinds of eyes. i have prophs from a while back still

hybrid schooner
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dual weidl here. missing roll for area on gloves

rustic gulch
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Is there any way to improve spark charges clear ?

As in make the aoe bigger or is it just Enigma 200% and anything else is not noticble ?

hybrid schooner
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yo doing nova claw spark charge?

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if so, try this node at left side of claw tree

rustic gulch
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I can't take that node cos it messes up rune colours

hybrid schooner
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err i mean nova tree

rustic gulch
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I'm doing nova for clear and LB for single target

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Yeah nova is what I'm using for a fire rune

hybrid schooner
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should shouldnt change the element order

rustic gulch
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Nah to take this id have to turn it into cold

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And then it becomes blue rune

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Ele nova + types and runic invocation interacts very weirdly

hybrid schooner
#

but youd still have fire too

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can u just make somethign else fire

rustic gulch
#

Well I'd need to change flame ward til fire

proper hawk
#

multi-element skills will give the rune you have the least of iirc

hybrid schooner
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clear on that node was pretty cool. thats all

proper hawk
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so if you are going for cfc, you should be able to grab the cold node and still have a fire rune from ele nova

rustic gulch
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Yeah I know it's good.

My clear is mainly just running around the tp spawns large nova that apply spark charge

rustic gulch
proper hawk
rustic gulch
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I took all 3 converts and it gave cold for example

proper hawk
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hmm

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well i would try it out at least, i could be wrong

rustic gulch
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It's not really nova size is my issue

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As it basically covers the screen

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It's more the actual pop size. I noticed it mainly in fights with a boss and lots of little ads

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Things are like awkwardly not close enough to hit one with a LB and the spark charge also hit nearby things

hybrid schooner
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if youre set up to tel around and apply spark charge i think youll find teh single target damage is pretty poor. idk what kind clear that will have as you move up in corruption

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i was under the ipmression that spark charge was pretty much dead. at least the claw version. but youre lb right

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nemesis does it again

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problem is now i have to treat this like an lp4 slam...

last knoll
#

Is Flame rush's volcanic orb node bugged?

potent echo
hybrid schooner
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uhh, not really

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shatter goes a lot further cause its base distance is already way bigger

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i only have 2 pts in range on mana strike tho too

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i mean its definitely further than it was

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sort the distance of shatter before any area buffs

potent echo
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Yeah still kinda depressingly small. I'm always sad when a boss like Shade makes me move away and I can't attack bc no mana.

hybrid schooner
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heres with max area in skill tree. not much differemt

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f thi game dood. t7 health gone

craggy crest
#

I thought you were trying LL build?

hybrid schooner
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no you cant. then you lose bloody nib which is at least half your damage

#

damage loss on boss would be massive

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have to just try again on the 2lps i have

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the dex is whatever. but 39% more health...

craggy crest
#

Rough...what's the odds on a 3LP null?

hybrid schooner
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probably not good, i got this from nemesis.

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BUT, its not a total loss. this actually frees up a slot on helm so i can throw a t7 heelth on 2lp there. ad those are freebies at 2lp

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t7 on helm is 26. o well

craggy crest
#

better than zero

hybrid schooner
#

breh idk how these guys do uber with shatter strike. like even if i down it once it would be mostly luck

craggy crest
#

god tier bullet hell dodging skills lol

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the one video I saw dude barely got hit at all

hybrid schooner
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ya i dont understnad at what point im actually suppse to hit him thers always a 1 shot coming

#

if i run away and wait like they do he jsut tri slams

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im standing on his back legs and still get tri slammed

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i should be doing more damag than them as well, gear is better but im not. something is off

#

well i did forget to put my throne idol in

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idk

wet cape
#

How does Mastery of the Invoker work? Like if I'm using Epilogue to trigger runic invocation with flame rush, there's a chance that my invocation gets double cast? Or

potent echo
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It wouldn't work with Epilogue because that's still casting runic invocation, just indirectly.

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It's meant to be paired with stuff like power word: Devastation in glyph of Domination.

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(No clue if there's any other effects like that tbh, I just know that one exists)

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Oh it'd also work off the Imbued Runestone in Runebolt

wet cape
#

Ah I see thanks. Searching around there's Imbued Runestone

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Yeah xP

broken pecan
#

so I'm running a Hydraedon build but I've gone back to do the last bit of the campaign for that +1 all attributes, but... sometimes I do the flame rush to trigger the runes and... nothing happens

#

it's very strange

potent echo
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Do you have the mana? If you don't have enough to trigger runic invocation it just won't trigger

broken pecan
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OH, I didn't realize that.

potent echo
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There might be exceptions but as a general rule auto-cast effects can't put you into negative mana

broken pecan
#

yeah... hm, I need more mana.

nimble shoal
#

Usually they just can't proc if you have negative mana, RI from flame rush is one of the few/only that requires sufficient mana

whole gale
#

Is anyone running invocation hydrahedron that prefers to use throne of ambition?

cerulean plinth
#

Don't you always use throne?

whole gale
#

Eh, im feeeling like it isn't always kept up unless obv on boss fight

buoyant monolith
whole gale
#

hard to keep track of tho

craggy crest
woven yarrow
#

It's still very good

#

Lb clear is so bad so you gotta do FC or static orb for monos I think

floral pier
#

Ok hear me out, 2x eye of reen, firebrand ignite stacker, using enchant weapon for conflagration pops. Am I wasting my time?

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Ideally with 52 attack speed on each sword for max stacking. Defence is just hit so much and gain a lot of ward

cloud creek
#

Anyone's got a planner on which item I could send to my reroll mage to lvl up faster ?

serene plume
floral pier
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i tried it offline with item editor, even with absolutley cracked gear in every slot (perf rolls 4lp uniques) its just shit

#

the conflagrate pops are ok but the defences are horrendous

#

currently fiddling with volcanic orb, maybe the void version idk

floral pier
#

everything is doubled with an extra sword isnt it?

rugged shell
#

The reens buff doesn't stack

floral pier
#

the chance to ignite does tho

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the idea was to mega stack ignites on mobs then bomb them with enchant weapon, conflagration

rugged shell
#

It's not a bad idea tbh if it works how I imagine

#

Atleast for boss damage

floral pier
#

you can get 314% chance to ignite per sword

#

if you are really cracked and you get bleed chance and use mahelins hubris to convert it to ignite, you can get 248 ignite chance per sword

rugged shell
#

Cause ignites should inherit more DMG multipliers from skills etc.

floral pier
#

428*

#

time two, you get 8.5 ignites per hit

rugged shell
#

Then you get +2x more damage from conflag

rugged shell
floral pier
#

yeah the conflag pops were off tap but i couldnt stop dying so idk, maybe too much focus on damage

rugged shell
#

With el nova trigger

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Yeah actually lol.

#

Just spec enchant weapon bottom left tree completely and just use it for single target lul

floral pier
#

i was using flame reave with sunwreath and spreading flames to clear trash, was ok

rugged shell
#

Frostclaw is just way too good at stacking procs

#

Since a single cast can do 10+ hits

#

Then use manastrike to upkeep Mana cost

rustic gulch
#

Yeah if you wanna do some speed leveling manastrike is really solid

#

I realised how impactful mana regen was for me as it allows more cast speed and more dmg in general

#

How just need to find that ladel and Enigma

static bluff
#

just reached the point where i can pick my mastery for the first time, but i cant decide .__.

  • trying to spec into fire and was initially thinking of spellblade cause it sounds cool asf
native skiff
#

what item do make survivability for sorcerer in 500+ coruption

#

beside exsang and last step boot

spare vessel
#

So if you like that, try it

#

You can always change later

pulsar musk
#

I'm having trouble sustaining ward on my build... Can I ask anyone from you guys ?

spare vessel
#

you can try box of hydrae if it suits your build, its cheap

pulsar musk
#

I have (last steps of the living + twisted heart) + grasp of the blood mage
having too much spell leech to the point of anti-synergy

weary hamlet
rugged shell
#

But dont know how good it would be.

#

Could use mana strike for sustain and triggering

weary hamlet
rugged shell
#

if you wanted to make it work

ruby flax
#

dang. Lightless Arbor is so nice for havoc farming

pulsar musk
molten cobalt
#

No one is forcing you

molten cobalt
ruby flax
ruby flax
molten cobalt
#

How long does a good run take?

ruby flax
#

a few minutes with the portal charm

molten cobalt
#

Can get 20 from prophecies rather quick too, but rolling prophecies take time

ruby flax
#

it just takes a lot of gold

#

if you have gold to spend only accept chests with runes and modifiers that duplicate or add more runes/items

molten cobalt
#

What is a lot?

#

I don’t loot and sell to npc as CoF so I don’t have much

#

For MG it’s easy I guess

rustic gulch
ruby flax
molten cobalt
viscid harness
#

So with Black Hole, if I were to use singularity, would it cancel out the Scattered node?

hearty chasm
#

can someone explain to me why my wordless invocation keeps on generating RRR instead of BRR ?

#

what is triggering it to make that combination ?

pulsar musk
#

you prolly have an elemental convert either on your skill or on your idols (probably idols)

rustic gulch
viscid harness
#

thanks for the heads up

broken pecan
#

shatter strike question: Yrun's Penance with good slams better than scissors?

potent echo
#

Ehhhhh

#

Missing out on skill levels

broken pecan
#

Oh, I forgot that was on there

potent echo
#

I don't know the actual math but it's definitely not better than good scissors. Might be better than really bad ones.

sand pagoda
#

Is int bugged? 50 int and only 178% ward retention

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
harsh abyss
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Wasnt it? Pre patch 50 int wouldve been 200% retention

weary hamlet
#

yea its 2% per point now

harsh abyss
#

Oh, the int tooltip, yeah that makea senst, I was thinking the ward retention not being updated for some reason, heh

hybrid schooner
#

@broken pecanno definitely not better. if you compare scissors to the purple crystal sword (which wwas best in slot before scissor was in the game), the scissor is essentially a more powerful version of that.

broken pecan
#

yeah, especially with +level melee skills

#

I've got two +2 right now

hybrid schooner
#

yup

broken pecan
#

MELTS bosses.

hybrid schooner
#

its pretty wild, even with 30 pts in shatter i still want at least 4 more pts

#

2 scissors with nice rolls is quality of lifewith the extra 2 pts. but its hard to go back after you use 1 reen. the crit multi is huge

broken pecan
#

reen?

hybrid schooner
#

200 crit multi, and its easier to get double t7 here than scissor.

polar prism
#

Is runemaster hydrahedron good?

sharp mantle
#

if you make full use of the frost wall bug/snapshot then yes

polar prism
#

there is a snapshot for hydra?

#

I haven't heard anything about that

sharp mantle
#

there's a frostwall node which increases the damage of the next invocation based on how long the frostwall has lived when you pass through the frostwall.

If you only trigger and never directly cast runic invocation then that buff lasts forever

polar prism
#

not really a snapshot just a bug

sharp mantle
#

so you go through your frost wall a moment before it ends and trigger the hydra cast then you have a huge damage multiplier to all hydra casts until or unless you actually press the invocation button, which you don't have to because you're always triggering it with that movement skill

hybrid schooner
#

make helm and chest with t7 frostwall duration. put those items on > cast frost wall > go through frost wall at the last second > do not do through another frost wall > do not hard cast invocation

sharp mantle
#

yeah, it is more of a bug than a snapshot in the minion sense, but it is snapshotting and preserving that temporary buff from frost-wall so it isn't entirely misleading to describe it that way.

I think it's a bug too fwiw

polar prism
#

Should i go hydra or abom

#

or ballista

sharp mantle
#

ballista

polar prism
#

yea,i was thinking that but abom looks cool and so does hydra

sharp mantle
#

hydra is cool, but ballista is significantly better

polar prism
#

what corruption does it run.Haven't really seen anything on it this season

#

I've only seen it on maxroll

sharp mantle
#

I think that largely depends on the pilot

polar prism
#

The only problem i had with ballista is the boss fights

sharp mantle
#

it's not exactly a durable setup, but the playstyle can be very very safe and mostly just offscreen stuff

polar prism
#

What build do you do

sharp mantle
#

but you also have to collect potions etc and obviously you can make mistakes and run into things you should avoid. Also the tombs/cemeteries are a bit close quarters for ballista to be that comfortable

sharp mantle
#

and witchfire warlock

polar prism
#

whats witchfire warlock?

sharp mantle
#

good for monos, bad for bosses

viral helm
#

anyone have a leveling build for lightning blast?

polar prism
hybrid schooner
#

if this was t7 attack speed id be pretty happy

oblique fossil
#

@sharp mantle does that mean I should press runic for another plasma or just use flame rush?

hybrid schooner
#

what build

#

oo that, nevermind i have n idea

oblique fossil
#

I did not even know the bug did frost claw just changed to the auto bomber. So I been missing dps 😞

hybrid schooner
#

@oblique fossilthe strengthstack auto bomber?

#

if so, do the snapshot, you can not press runic invocation after. the orb is not what is doing the damage anyways. it does 0 damage

oblique fossil
#

Still on int. Can't find t7 intel to turn into str

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@hybrid schooner good to know will stop pressing it. Maybe farm some more lost my hard core mage. So been doing a hard core Sentinel.

hybrid schooner
#

ya as long as there is a single orb up, the orb is applying the brand of deception, which is where the damage is coming from

oblique fossil
#

You have to do it every echo or just when you go to say eot and back

hybrid schooner
#

no everyy echo, as long as u dont leave and go to get prohpecies basicaly

#

u can switch timelines no problem

oblique fossil
#

OK will try when I get home

hybrid schooner
#

ayoo. i expected when i finally pulled a 3 it woulda been min rolled stats

hybrid schooner
#

gonna have to slam t7 dex, t7 health%, intel, crit redux so I have some wiggle room with other items if i dont get the 3 prio stats

craggy crest
#

Btw i forgot to ask you, how do you deal with having less than 200 mana

#

doesnt that mean you burn through it really fast? I usually find that I always die when im trying to mana strike something

proper hawk
spice gull
#

How long does Oerden Echo last? (The one that lets you swap attributes)

#

This thing never ends and I get overwhelmed

proper hawk
spice gull
#

So kill champion, swap, kill, swap?

proper hawk
#

yeah

spice gull
#

Lul

proper hawk
#

they dont spawn immediately though

#

you can see your progress with the bonus stability bar on the right

spice gull
#

I need more defense tho, this hydra build is rough trying to balance dodge/armor/ward

craggy crest
proper hawk
craggy crest
#

Yes, I have Shatter as Q, and mana strike as....anything else

proper hawk
#

are you using wasd input?

craggy crest
#

No, mouse to move because that's what I'm used to

proper hawk
#

thats very strange, it should work fine

#

shouldnt have anything to do with your keyboard

craggy crest
#

It's the symptom of having a very old keyboard

#

it ghosts

proper hawk
#

ghosts?

craggy crest
#

Yes, certain keys if I hold them down at the same time, say Q + W

#

it only detects me as holding Q

proper hawk
#

oh

craggy crest
#

The W "ghosts"

proper hawk
#

well that will make shatter very hard to play for you

craggy crest
#

I'm already at 400 corruption i might as well just keep going lol

#

level 100 as well

proper hawk
#

lol fair enough

craggy crest
#

I think it could work if I do it on right click

#

but ive already done Teleport on right click so much that it's weird to change

#

and i hate change lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

proper hawk
#

teleport on right click? thats so weird to me i would have assumed mana strike would be on right click

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its probably worth trying to change it and see how it feels when you can just hold both buttons down

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you can always change it back

craggy crest
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Oh wait nevermind, I just tested with Q + W

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It does work

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I guess im just literally not in range

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actually mana striking the mobs

proper hawk
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oh lol

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well there you go problem solved

craggy crest
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I gotta be so close I'm hugging them

proper hawk
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mana strike is unfortunately rather short ranged

craggy crest
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i also don't get why they make area of skills based on the radius

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instead of....the actual area

proper hawk
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not sure what you mean, afaik it is based on the area

craggy crest
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It doesn't feel like it goes up that much for a pretty hefty investment

proper hawk
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well yeah because its 20% increased area and thats harder to see than 20% inc radius

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if it increased the radius the increase in area would be squared

craggy crest
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Fair enough....didn't think about that tbh

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do you think LL could work on SS better than health stacking for mapping?

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I know you need the Nib for bossing but...was thinking of farming two seperate sets of gear for bossing and mapping

proper hawk
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maybe? sounds annoying tbh, i dont like gear swaps

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but thats just me

craggy crest
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that priority thing is actually a gamechanger lmao

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I can actually keep SS up the entire time xd

waxen barn
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im not even a mage but i got this. I chatted here because im assuming it's for mage since it says "Battlemage". Any builds that use this? i wanna try.

warped crow
# waxen barn

we got a dagger that does what it does better so no one uses it

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lol

hybrid schooner
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@waxen barnthere gotta be a 2h build for it. with static shell chest im thinking. prob pretty tanky

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any build that can work lightening aegis into is can basically get a free 20% damage redux. theres no many ways to get reliabel aegis. a build with that sword is one way

warped crow
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probably a hot take but unless an affix requires a specific skill to use that is locked to a specific class it shouldnt be locked to a classes gear

hybrid schooner
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you mean purples?

warped crow
hybrid schooner
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in the case of purples its not the affix that is locking it to class, its already class locked and the affix shows up becuase of that.

warped crow
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ok ye so like

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channel cost for example being locked to sentinel

hybrid schooner
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oh i see

warped crow
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even tho dissentigrate and rampage also exist

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i think all the shared minion stats are also primalist exclusive

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when they would be good for forged weapons

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i was just checking to make sure i wasnt insane about the affixes being class locked

woven yarrow
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I did volcanic orb uberroth in 2 min xD. This might be one of the fastest Uber killed for non bugged mage builds

blazing root
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Got a planner? Sounds neat

warped crow
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disentigrate cant crit right?

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dot

blazing root
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sadly, you're correct

woven yarrow
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Planner is in there

warped crow
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lol

craggy crest
woven yarrow
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Yea been playing for a while haha, amazing game

craggy crest
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I only know you for armor stacking in PoE 1! ( I never got an armor stacker char going tho 😔 )

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Those orbs do a ridiculous amount of damage though, good amount of ward generation to, you never really dipped below 5k to much

woven yarrow
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yea and i only had like 160 retention lol

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if u got more u can easly get over 10k ward stable i think

craggy crest
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How does it do in maps? It looks more like a boss build

blazing root
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He's got piercing fireball and extra projectiles in there, which should help a bit for clear

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orb on big lads

woven yarrow
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you can clear with fireball only tbh

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and remove reduced volcanic orb idol and use for clear. its actualy very good

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and probably red rings for monos too

warped crow
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my main problem with fireball is you kinda need like 3/4 of your passive points just to make the skill functional lel

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gotta grab homing ... gotta get shotgun ... got to get some kind of peirce until you get the helmet affixes ... and then explodey

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and like most of that can be done in like the first 5-6 points of frostclaw and frostclaw still does more

stuck nebula
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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqNVz0RB
i just swapped to hydra RM (was playing str RM), can someone take a look at my build and give me some advice in which direction to go next? my main concerns currently are

  1. do i have enough damage to start pushing for uber abby?
  2. i keep dying in monos (600c). is it normal to kinda walk around and die or am i lacking in defenses somewhere? ill admit im much squishier than when i was playing str RM. i was much tankier but i dont particularly feel like im just carelessly walking into mobs and dying but im dying very easily now.
silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (21) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (67)

General:

▸ Health: 1,314, Regen: 25/s
▸ Mana: 322.51, Regen: 8.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 270%, Regen: 112/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 19 Dex / 97 Int / 95 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 98% / 74% / 93% / 72% / 70% / 76% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 263
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (564)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,688)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 90%

spice gull
warped crow
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if you lightning convert fire aura does the 50% chance to shred fire resist convert to lightning res shred from the spellblade tree?

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smolbrain idea but mana guide with ignivars head means you can just keep walking and channeling fire auras

unreal blade
warped crow
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sad

sand pagoda
molten frost
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is black hole scalable to uber level?

whole gale
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Do you guys find ;it worth running ambition idol even during "trash clears"

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Seems to me like something to swap in for bosses

weary hamlet
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not worth the hassle

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it also procs off rares just fine

rugged shell
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but who would carry around 4 or so idols to hotswap, like we can currently.

lost grotto
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Is Disintegrate just bad? Like I haven't tried it with a +4 to it yet, but no synergy with any mage mastery passives (ok, there is the runemaster elemental dmg), but feels not great to use. Looks fricken cool tho with dual beam

weary hamlet
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I used to run it in 500+ corr last patch and currently my disintegrate alt is sitting around 350 with turbo shit gear but I haven't been playing it in a while

lost grotto
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hmm ok ty, I'll keep working on it then

weary hamlet
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mastery cornerstone passives are also irrelevant in this game in 99% of cases, you can forget about those

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disintegrate has a lot of synergy in the RM tree but it's mostly for lightning, and lightning's problem is that it wants a lot of mana to use that more damage per max mana node just to not be worse than fire

lost grotto
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ya I have fire based right now with disintegrate for aeo and fireball for ignite stacks

weary hamlet
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dont spread thin, disintegrate has little in common with any other skill in terms of scaling, focus just on it

lost grotto
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oh, you mean like you kill boss with it too?

weary hamlet
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you kill everything with it, why have two skills when one does the job

lost grotto
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the ramp up does do a lot of dmg, but you have to stand still and takes a lot of mana so I was like I'll just die to boss. I'll try that, ty

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so idea is you just get items focused completely on one skill? with some defense ofc

weary hamlet
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well the turret playstyle is why its not uber viable, but you can build enough defenses so that only occasional dodging of major mechanics is needed

weary hamlet
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scaling one thing well is better than scaling multiple things poorly

weary hamlet
lost grotto
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huh ok, I just thought that focus one on aeo, another on single target was the way to go. Cause like with both fireball and disintegrate the main annoying thing is I wanna be taking ignite chance which is bad for disintegrate aka my main map clear. But I have to have it for fireball or boss doesn't die. Other fire/elemental/dmg over time scaling is ok. Oh I guess the other thing that is not ideal is taking nodes for ignite duration.... time to do some respecing 😄

weary hamlet
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yeah you already answered your own question, fireball and disintegrate have very little overlap in scaling so you can't leverage both effectively at the same time

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cause sure of course you have some overlap but i.e. fireball really wants cast speed while it has no effect on disintegrate, etc

dusk sluice
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anyone knows any actyual lightning blast builds that utilize lightning blast as a damage skill or is it so bad that only smth like spark charges or similar variant is viable?

weary hamlet
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I ran focal blast at the start of the season, its a bit of a meme but I guess its viable at 500+- corr

dusk sluice
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Im just looking for a build like lightning blast (but actual skill chaining and killing not procing smth else) or any kind of aura like skills to run around + teleport* killing everything passively. looking for to jump into CoF

boreal widget
dusk sluice
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focal blasT? never heared of it, any links to a build guide to check ?

weary hamlet
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spec focal blast and spark nova, you don't have points in lb for much else anyways

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use ice barrage either for boss damage in a damage build or as a steroid with the more cold damage branch

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that's more or less it

harsh abyss
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I've always wanted to try the mana stack disintegrate build

weary hamlet
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its on my list.. somewhere on the flip side

harsh abyss
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I'm already trying out a mana stack focus build, I should be able to swap over relatively easily.

weary hamlet
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Im more interested in that tech that some guy smoked up last week, using spine of maltharos (sp?) for +6 to disintegrate

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the only problem is, swords can't have the ele dot affix

dusk sluice
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oh focal blast is a skill tree point let me see

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ooh it removes chain, but its so satisfying to chain, the whole point of the skill is chainining through enemies

molten cobalt
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you walk and shit just dies

dusk sluice
molten cobalt
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can do uberroth with it, though you kinda need frostwall snapshot for it, unless you want to manually use frostwall for damage, which is basically pulling all your hair out

molten cobalt
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bruh

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dungeon gave me 0 havoc

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literally 0

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i only chose rune options

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and duplication stuff

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what a scam

dusk sluice
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it was working on 500+ corrupt with mediocre 1 tops 2 lp gear

molten cobalt
dusk sluice
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but killing some tankier bosses was taking quite some time coz those big dots were going for ages even if big numbers

molten cobalt
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you just swap the skills on the skill bar

dusk sluice
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def played diff version

molten cobalt
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you still talk about spark and lb

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brand of deception has nothing to do with either of those

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it's an autobomber build

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which is what you asked for earlier

dusk sluice
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yeah I was runnign spark to auto cast lb to trigger brand of deception dot ticks

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it was from YT BigDaddy

molten cobalt
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i see

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never even seen that version

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most trigger brand with invocation which is triggered with flame rush

dusk sluice
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but eventually he scaled way way faster than I could catch up so I stopped eventually xD

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I mean build was litteraly run around autocasting Lb and therefore autocasting invocation

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on big mobs drop blast charge or whats its called for those juicy big dot ticks

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but those ticks are so slow xD

molten cobalt
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you mean this?

dusk sluice
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I might have confused spark name with static name

molten cobalt
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i suppose if you actually spec into LB to make it cost 15 mana

dusk sluice
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used this

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to then trigger deception via LB that yes costed 15 mana

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and u just run around all dies.

molten cobalt
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1 hit dead

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or rather, 1 tick dead

dusk sluice
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yeah, cons for me was dropping static orb on bosses for ticks of deception

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ticks were nice smth like 90-100k with my setup, but so damn slow, area bosses + big guy was taking ages because of that

molten cobalt
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dunno what is more efficient, but i like the version where flame rush triggers invocation which then triggers brand

dusk sluice
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can ya drop a link to it never seen that version curiosu how it plays

molten cobalt
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FrozenSentinel got many videos on it

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and his progression

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and alterations

dusk sluice
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as I was currently running judgement aura build, loved it, but apparently in later stages you MUST switch all skills to auras to rise defence and damage and was left with no movement skills

dusk sluice
molten cobalt
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100k per tick is incredibly low

dusk sluice
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bossess of mono on 400-500+ corrupt were taking me at least 5-7 minutes

molten cobalt
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wooow

dusk sluice
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but then my gear wasnt that good

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wait I think I can import my gear didnt change it from then

molten cobalt
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let me find a video to show you a timeline boss at 1200 ish corr

dusk sluice
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it might have been higher but Im not sure

dusk sluice
molten cobalt
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@dusk sluice

dusk sluice
silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,304, Regen: 25.44/s
▸ Mana: 314.49, Regen: 12.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 518%, Regen: 238/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 14 Dex / 159 Int / 10 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 103% / 117% / 141% / 91% / 31% / 83% / 98%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 607
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (56)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (667)

dusk sluice
molten cobalt
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that would be the single target invocation

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lightning web

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1mil+ per tick

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on a timeline boss

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and thats with zero runic energy

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with 45 stacks of runic energy and a dummy my ticks are 12mil+

dusk sluice
molten cobalt
silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (19) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,683, Regen: 27/s
▸ Mana: 283.51, Regen: 16.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 539%, Regen: 236/s
▸ Attributes: 177 Str / 23 Dex / 177 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 123% / 148% / 93% / 114% / 89% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 337
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (332)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,187)
▸ Block Chance: 191%, Mitigation: 46% (1,727)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 104%

dusk sluice
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oh red rings too xD

molten cobalt
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red rings are actually worse for damage

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i did uberroth with 2 julra rings

dusk sluice
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ye but +40 all res and -40 all damage

molten cobalt
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yeah

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but absolutely not needed

dusk sluice
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without them where to even find so many res xD

molten cobalt
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if i can do uberroth without them, noone needs them

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and im a terrible gamer

molten cobalt
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i got 0 res on the medium idols

dusk sluice
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I mean - 2 rings, some res can be on those too I guess

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either way, any actual build guide, I need some holding hand to understand it all especially leveling part as its my first CoF run (if I dont count barely hitting monos on my judgement aura build)

molten cobalt
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in the video you linked i see he isnt 1 shotting everything even on 900c

dusk sluice
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yeah he wasnt 😄

molten cobalt
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so thats alread worse

dusk sluice
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he did kill bosses and so one, later on upgraded build massively and even killed uber abo but with few changes

molten cobalt
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i one shot everyting on 1500 and i never bothered even trying to go higher

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others have done up to 2500

dusk sluice
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sounds great, was thid build form YT Pinchingloaf channel?

molten cobalt
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i did however carry a noob on 1500 so thats technially 1500 + 70% health to monsters i believe

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and still 1 shot everything

molten cobalt
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FrozenSentinel

dusk sluice
molten cobalt
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no

dusk sluice
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nah wait

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wrong one

molten cobalt
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he has made quite a few videos on it

dusk sluice
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newest video 😄

molten cobalt
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yeah the RIP part is the animation changed

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character isnt doing a T-pose anymore

dusk sluice
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nice clickbaiting people to go look further and do not even check video 😄

molten cobalt
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but more of a row your boat or flappy bird animation

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looks totally dumb

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he also tested some stuff out like triggering brand with flame rush that he made do damage and have larger AOE

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that version kinda sucked

dusk sluice
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from which video do I start even theres so many updates

molten cobalt
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the version im using isnt even in one of his videos

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he always tried to stick to the err whats the name

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the invocation that gives shock chance

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covenant arc

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i use plasma orb for clear and lightning web for boss

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he uses plasma orb and covenant arc

dusk sluice
molten cobalt
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from lvl1 to int stacking to str stacking

dusk sluice
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so I use that from the link till what point ? 100 corrupt? 500 corrupt? or more

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just to know at which point I got look for smth upgraded

molten cobalt
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just watch that tutorial to understand the steps and more importantly WHEN to take the steps

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gear wise, skill wise and passive wise you can look at the loadout I sent and compare

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a lot of stuff is a matter of taste

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are you fixing crit avoid with helmet or belt? stuff like that

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do you want leech in passive tree because you chose crit avoid helmet?

dusk sluice
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so you using what that fire dash to hit the ticks and his using smth else ?

molten cobalt
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less important stuff like that

molten cobalt
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it felt horrible

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no directly triggering brand with flame rush