🧙┃mage

[boreal widget]

It isn't a good stat but its still useful. Less chance of ludomancer falling off

[celest rain]

the strength is nice I suppose

does mean if I take flat armour elsewhere that's a much bigger gain

[boreal widget]

Also stats towards red ring

[celest rain]

Finding an LP1 red ring gonna kill me tho, still haven't seen even a normal one

Been Ascending rings like a mother f#$ker and farming and still nothing

[edgy sage]

If you are CoF its just a bunch of propehcies

should get it in like 200k on avg

so quite quick

[boreal widget]

Yea CoD prophecy targetting is best way by far. Just use the 'Ring + Monolith only + no monolith' and spam everything saying 'unique ring' that isn't diamond matron or seige golem

Will fill up entire prophecy thing in a few minutes and complete all of them in about 3 echos

[molten cobalt]

you didnt mention the absolute worst one

void horror

[boreal widget]

I've never actually seen that one

[celest rain]

I'm merchant guild

[boreal widget]

I don't think it shows up with 'no monolith'

[edgy sage]

Then you just buy a normal one then

[celest rain]

They cost like 10 billion gold

[edgy sage]

And then maybe try to snip a 1lp one when they sometimes show up

[molten cobalt]

you cant even have 10bil gold

[boreal widget]

Imprint some good sentinel and falconer gear and farm it to sell so you can buy your insanely cheap disintegrate gear

[edgy sage]

Nah Red ring is like 200-300mill for legendary one, and like 400 for a clean one

[celest rain]

I have like 600k gold

[edgy sage]

Thats farmed in like what a couple of hours

[celest rain]

;P

[edgy sage]

Are you not selling stuff?

[celest rain]

Uh, I don't seem to find much worth selling

I sell the occasional thing

Usually get a few hundred thousand gold

[edgy sage]

What corruption are you farming?

[molten cobalt]

then you will struggle hard with MG

rip

[edgy sage]

Since at like 400+ you will farm like 50mill an hour on the low end

[molten cobalt]

selling loot is an absolute must

[boreal widget]

MG is really rough if you don't know all the classes to know what's valuable even for stuff that isn't good for you

[celest rain]

In fairness, I don't actually know what is worth that much.

[molten cobalt]

you should have picked CoF then

[celest rain]

I know the shit that's worth I a lot that I want.

[edgy sage]

If you dont know prices you should just go CoF and farm for yourself

[boreal widget]

Yea if you can swap to CoF it'd be worth it, but you prob have bought gear you'd have to take off :(

[edgy sage]

Or you need to pricecheck better

[celest rain]

I mean part of the issue is the auction house interface is awful

[merry river]

Is a flame wave + volcanus build possible? Perhaps with fire auras too?

[celest rain]

So hard to filter by stats you want

[edgy sage]

Its the best ingame one in any ARPG, but thats a low bar 😄

[celest rain]

Takes 10 minutes to find out if a random drop is worth selling

[edgy sage]

takes like 20sec or less to pricecheck WDYM

also with a good filter you barely need to pricecheck

since most stuff you pick up is worth something

[celest rain]

There needs to be a way to click an item and have it auto-fill AH selection with it.

[boreal widget]

Can make an honest amount selling 0LPs of essential legendaries for other builds, like the jungle belt for falconers

[edgy sage]

Just take a decent trade filter, and change it a little to suit your build

[celest rain]

If I was to switch to CoF right now I'd lose 100% of my gear on all my characters 😛

[edgy sage]

Like the TSM very strict one is only showing drops worth 50k or more, and then all t7s that you might want to price check

[molten cobalt]

in hate how the game does this

locking you into a faction

barrier to swap is huge

[boreal widget]

Its so people don't go MG to start their build, then swap CoF

[molten cobalt]

let them

[boreal widget]

iirc didn't EHG not even want to add MG originally but there was so much outcry for trading it was put in?

[edgy sage]

I started CoF, but after killing Uber abby on 2 chars I swapped to MG to play a true AH goblin

[molten cobalt]

who cares

let people swap

[edgy sage]

Now I have killed Uber Abby on all classes

[celest rain]

Ye I don't get why it's a problem if people can buy starting gear and then swap

That isn't gonna get them the giga gear

[boreal widget]

I'm pretty sure LE was more designed around SSF experience over trading like PoE. MG is a compromise not a focus

[edgy sage]

Yeah and they have said they want changes to MG

so

hopefully it gets better

[celest rain]

All I ask is a way for it to auto search an item I pick

That would make me life 100000x easier

Price checking would be breezy

[edgy sage]

Yeah they talked about that in the last Q&A they want a proper pricechecking tool

[boreal widget]

You can also just grab a few low level legendaries and level up a second character disgustingly fast to swap to CoF

prob easier lmao

[edgy sage]

But yeah for now just have a proper filter

[molten cobalt]

can be done if there's a market API

[edgy sage]

and then you can price check stuff like T7 mods which goes quick anyways

[molten cobalt]

both poe1 and poe2 has such tools

[celest rain]

I have a filter and mainly only check T6/7 mods

[edgy sage]

Well checking T7 mods takes like 10sec

[celest rain]

I ain't checking random rares

Single T6/7 mods are worth literally nothing though.

[edgy sage]

and right now T6 solo mods are like worthless

so I only show Double t6 or higher

[celest rain]

They are only valuable if you get T7 + a nice T6 or whatever

[edgy sage]

Bunch of single t7 mods are worth fair bit

[celest rain]

Which ones?

[edgy sage]

like Void melee dmg on 2h axe

[celest rain]

I haven't seen any that are

[edgy sage]

Movement speed

Block chance

[celest rain]

hm, aight

[edgy sage]

CDR

Elemental damage over time

All the stat ones like Dex, Str, Int

[molten cobalt]

you can print these like mad in trove maos

[boreal widget]

+4skill ones too

[edgy sage]

Yeah skill ones are worth a pretty penny

you can also havoc to make money if you got plenty

[celest rain]

I've been buying skill ones for pennies O.o

[boreal widget]

You're playing mage

[edgy sage]

It depends on the skill

[boreal widget]

And off meta mage too

[celest rain]

Do people not like mage?

[edgy sage]

Yeah mage is cheap

[boreal widget]

mage has like 2% representation

[celest rain]

Oh, rofl

[boreal widget]

Its the least played class

[celest rain]

I mean I play a bunch of chars

[molten cobalt]

is there even an "on meta" mage?

[edgy sage]

T pose

and Hydra I guess

Shatter strike

[boreal widget]

Snapshot runemage killing uber in <1min I think

[celest rain]

I have a Tornado Storm Shaman, Smite Paladin, my Disintegrate Mage, Crit Melee Lich, Wraithlord Necro.

[molten cobalt]

from what i understand to do that you need insane timing and practice

[edgy sage]

smite paladin gear sells well and fast

[boreal widget]

But yea I tyhink shatter, hydra, and t-pose would count as 'meta' mage right now? I don't know cause I'm firmly in off-meta crowd this season

[edgy sage]

Yeah

[celest rain]

Meta builds are for weiners 😛

I make my own shiz

[edgy sage]

I play some meta some dont

[celest rain]

Which is also why I have no idea what is valuable lol

I just know what's valuable to ME

[edgy sage]

Well if you dont know whats valuable MG is kinda bad

You can just get a filter from TSM or something though

that helps you a lot

[celest rain]

I have a full on filter set up

I stole a big universal filter a while back and reuse it

[boreal widget]

Loaded up on 300 unique rings of prophecies, lets see what I get

[edgy sage]

is it updated though?

[celest rain]

but it mainly filters for T6x2 or T7 exalteds

Yeah I update it

[edgy sage]

Yeah but the TSM filter is updated by them with stuff like Idols, Uniques and such

[celest rain]

Like I don't filter for specific shit outside of stuff I need myself, but I have filters to highlight T6 >= x2 and T7

[edgy sage]

If you want to make money in MG you need a proper filter

Like my filter basically shows multi exalt items and t7s+ any combo of stuff that is worth 1mill+

And then I have a rule for stuff I need for shards and such

I even have some items I can use for Havoc gamble

[boreal widget]

Rip no red ring :(

[celest rain]

What did you do O.o

[boreal widget]

CoF go brrr

[edgy sage]

Thats CoF

[celest rain]

Jeebus

[edgy sage]

Prophecies goes hard

[celest rain]

That's a bit ridiculous rofl

[edgy sage]

you can get like 2-3 pops like that in one Echo

Like if I wanted a Red ring right now, I could prob get it in a 4-5 hour farming session

COF is actually nuts

[boreal widget]

And exalteds are way more common, and when they'd drop at T6 have a 1/4 chance to instead be T7

[celest rain]

Oh hey Twisted Heart buffs 4/5 of my skills.

That's nice

I should just give up the Ele damage buff on teleport and max out the armour buff

I don't even think the Ele teleport buff is multiplicative.

[harsh abyss]

It's not

[celest rain]

Yeah, okay not worth then

I'd rather an extra 200 armour

[boreal widget]

If it says 'more' its multiplicative, if it says 'increase' its not

[celest rain]

"Increased elemental damage"

It ain't mutli, they normally mark when it is

150 armour > 30-40% additive ele dmg

[boreal widget]

Almost done wit this awful chore of nemesising all these abber drops lmao

Not shown is the entire second page of failures t.t

[edgy sage]

Did we get an update btw? cant log in

[boreal widget]

Rip, no red ring again t.t, and no patch I can see today

[celest rain]

Uh, can you get gear with two T7 affixes?

[molten cobalt]

sure

can get 5 t7, theoretically

[celest rain]

I'm assuming more than two is pretty unlikely tho

[molten cobalt]

correct

but 2 t7 and 1 t6 is fairly common

but such items can actually work against you

because you're essentially eliminating core crafting mechanics such as sealing

[edgy sage]

harder to craft what you want on them

[molten cobalt]

but double t7 is easy

[celest rain]

Sealing never works for me no matter how hard I try >.<

RNG hates me

[molten cobalt]

if it is an exalted item t1 is 100%

t2 is something like 70%

[celest rain]

Ohhhhh

okay I was doing it wrong then rofl

[molten cobalt]

which is why i said triple exalted mods can work against you

[celest rain]

Was trying to Seal T4/5 stuff

[molten cobalt]

yeah forget that

[celest rain]

So Seal T2/3 stuff

[molten cobalt]

t1/t2

dont try t3

[celest rain]

Hm, okay

[molten cobalt]

more often than not it wont work

and you just get a t4 mod

[edgy sage]

Seal can also be used as a targeted removal

[molten cobalt]

yes

thats the main purpose

[celest rain]

So for something like this:

I should just be sealing Something with low tier physical resist

[molten cobalt]

that one was dropped

[edgy sage]

Also to get stuff like experimental affixes or set affixes that you only need at t1

[celest rain]

and other shit I want

It wasn't dropped because I made it in the online tool ;P

[edgy sage]

Stuff can drop with sealed

[molten cobalt]

oh i see

well you can drop stuff like that

[edgy sage]

Especially now with the Weaver tree being busted

[molten cobalt]

yeah

though that specific weaver imprint isnt so busted

it's rather meh actually

[celest rain]

I have my current gloves on my Weaver tree for the Sealed imprint one

[edgy sage]

You get less of them, but you can high roll, especially if it's in a slot that doesnt use uniques

But yeah I just imprint for money making in mg

[molten cobalt]

i got this one imprinted there

but never got anything higher than t5 set mod sealed

[boreal widget]

Is the shock chance worth maxing out? I wasn't aware stacking shock had value since it caps at 10?

[molten cobalt]

shock chance is key for brand of deception

[boreal widget]

Ahhh, but not for lightning meteor. Still use that set bonus for most lightning builds though cause spell damage to int scaling

[molten cobalt]

sure but then you can just seal a t1

but for brand...

[boreal widget]

Yea thats insane

[boreal widget]

Also makes sense, I was sealing at T1 for the set bonus

And deception is daamge over time right?

[cosmic dove]

yes, all the brands are dots

[boreal widget]

So you could run that for lightning disintegrate

[cosmic dove]

it needs a mana 15 lightning spell hit to trigger though

so disintegrate cant trigger

[boreal widget]

direct spell?

[cosmic dove]

no, like a static orb from disintegrate can proc it

as long as the mana cost is 15+

[boreal widget]

Fireball too actually. If you do the cancel cast fireball thing

OOF

Just had one drop of a regular white mob

[cosmic dove]

@harsh abyss after the collapse bug discovery I went looking for other non-FC frostbite possibilities (for...reasons)
do you know how this invocation works?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/runic_invocation15_attaching_ice_large

It says "repeatedly hit" and 0.1 second interval. How long does it last? How many hits?

[molten cobalt]

how would you guys make this into 2 specific t7 prefixes?

havoc into double t7 suffix, yolo removal, seal other, craft on 2 prefix of choice and havoc again?

fat chance i can do that in 46 FP

[harsh abyss]

Dunno, never tried it

[boreal widget]

I'd seal armor or health regen, add a suffix I want to T2, then havoc

[harsh abyss]

I don't really do much with DoT builds, I like crits too much

[molten cobalt]

i dont want suffix

i want 2 prefix, like stated

[harsh abyss]

You... don't? Your only option is to Rune of Havok

[boreal widget]

Redemption spam

[molten cobalt]

i want these

[harsh abyss]

errr yeah redemption

[molten cobalt]

100% chance of brick

[harsh abyss]

Lol, you just gotta rune and pray

[boreal widget]

Only 99.9% chance

[harsh abyss]

There's no other way to change T7 affixes

[boreal widget]

Nah

He has a good plan

Havoc them onto suffix -> seal prefix -> yolo other prefix? -> add two he wants -> havoc again

[molten cobalt]

issue is the semi low FP

I'd have to get insanely lucky

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, IDK if it's possible

[molten cobalt]

yeah no

first havoc

[harsh abyss]

Especially needing to removal, seal, and add 2 prefixes. You'd have about as much luck with redemption

[boreal widget]

I love how once I'm 2/3 on my exlied mages on prophecies

suddenly they never show up for like 20 echos

[harsh abyss]

Just do the exiled mage woven echo?

[molten cobalt]

yeah this is dead haha

[boreal widget]

Can't buy and don't have one

[molten cobalt]

should always have one

you can farm it for champions over and over

as long as you dont interact with the experimental affix station in the middle you can leave and kill them all over

and essentially farm the top left weaver imprint for free

[boreal widget]

That'd of been real nice to know >:(

[boreal widget]

Yea I use that

[molten cobalt]

you dont invest in lizards?

[boreal widget]

Nah, they never seemed to drop anything so moved off them

[cosmic dove]

just a mechanics check. this node in the frost wall tree wouldn't affect frostbites from frost wall because it isn't more, right?

[boreal widget]

Whoops, forgot I gotta fix something

[harsh abyss]

Frostbite also doesn't get bonuses from flat spell damage in any form

So nope

[molten cobalt]

how much memory amber do you get from the echo reward?

with this

[boreal widget]

Thats what I had to fix. I ran out middle of respec and forgot to go back and fix it later

[molten cobalt]

fix what

[molten cobalt]

looks the same

cant see the numbers

[boreal widget]

No i had to remove those lol

They sucked

[molten cobalt]

i see

i got this

even if the lizards aren't super amazing i have no clue what I'd put the points on otherwise

there is nothing else thats really good

[boreal widget]

This is what I meant to go

Super arenas are goat, like 6 champions in a 1 minute echo

[molten cobalt]

you actually want arena echoes?!

[edgy sage]

I block out a lot of the bad rewards so I can get better end rewards

[molten cobalt]

oh really?

[boreal widget]

When they're like 1 minute and half the waves are replaced with champions yes

[molten cobalt]

none of the rewards are any good

[boreal widget]

I go up for guranteed exiled mage spawn so every cemetary has that extra champion chance

[molten cobalt]

so basically this?

[boreal widget]

And then max out double echo rewards, and woven echo drop chances.

[boreal widget]

yea but they're weaker (pillars ones have higher stats than regular ones) and the echoes themselves are really short cause all the enemies rush you super fast

And the waves come multiple waves at a time

[molten cobalt]

how many champions in a super arena?

[edgy sage]

I keep runes. And then skip everything else

[boreal widget]

Gimme as ec to spawn another and I'll just show it

[edgy sage]

Double echo rewards are good

[molten cobalt]

i never run cemetaries or tombs

only when i want to build my farm web

[edgy sage]

I am also on mg so I pick the Weaver item nodes

[boreal widget]

I do for havoc runes and the extra quick echo imo

[edgy sage]

Since they are like pretty decent money

[boreal widget]

Since the end chest counts as an echo reward for imprints

[molten cobalt]

i get havoc from prophecies

stopped having issues with no havoc

[edgy sage]

I get havoc from Uber abby

He drops then often

[molten cobalt]

but yeah i never run regular echoes, so i never get tombs

so i have no use for the guaranteed exile node

[boreal widget]

Yea if you don't do tombs then you can prob move those points to less arena waves

Which honestly I think I'll do anyways

[molten cobalt]

but super arena sounds interesting

though

i do the temple and trove farm

i would never get arena echoes anyway

so thats pointless now that i think about it

i do this

[boreal widget]

That is one way to do it lmao

And ywa if I had that many shrine maps I'd be using the loot lizard shrine thing to

[edgy sage]

My farming strat now is just bossing so

I ran like 200 Uber abbys or something

[molten cobalt]

i have not managed to kill him yet

[edgy sage]

I got 8 different chars I have killed it on

Was going to do forgeguard today but they nuked my build

[molten cobalt]

would this also double the imprint, if it triggers?

[edgy sage]

Yes

[boreal widget]

Yea I have it maxed out

[molten cobalt]

so it counts as getting 2 separate echo rewardS?

[edgy sage]

Yes

[molten cobalt]

ok i need that then

[edgy sage]

Yeah it's good

[molten cobalt]

removed this to make that happen

this node seems pretty shite anyway

not like LP is hard to get anyway

[cinder kraken]

is that a mage you're at 1200 corruption on? and if so what build

[molten cobalt]

yes and im just chilling, i kill just as fast carrying someone in a party, which means 70% more HP on monsters

i could go 2k+ corruption easily

it's the brand of deception autobomber runemaster

[cinder kraken]

ahh okay ya thats what im running

[boreal widget]

Here's a super arena example to give an idea.

[cinder kraken]

im at 900 corruption havent pushed it

you must have crazy gear tho

i dont have any red rings

[molten cobalt]

not crazy at all

[boreal widget]

idk what they changed in arena echoes but everything rushes you so fast compared to last season

so they're <1minute usually

[molten cobalt]

i think they said some timer amount got halved

and amount of waves also reduced

[boreal widget]

The next wave spawns well before previous ones are done too

[boreal widget]

Whats the efficient way to do this?

[molten cobalt]

yeah i think thats the timer that got halved

spawn time cut in half

[cinder kraken]

by any chance do you have a planner or anything for your setup?

or is there a build you're following

[molten cobalt]

lostwood folly in the middle surrounded with as many unclaimed trove as you can sustain (prolly only 2) and rest false temple

in a honeycomb pattern kinda

[molten cobalt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/om4k8vqB

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (19) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,683, Regen: 27/s
▸ Mana: 274.51, Regen: 16.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 507%, Regen: 196/s
▸ Attributes: 176 Str / 23 Dex / 176 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / 127% / 144% / 93% / 77% / 78% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 337
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (332)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 66% (5,351)
▸ Block Chance: 190%, Mitigation: 46% (1,727)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 104%

Used skills:

Focus / Frost Wall / Flame Rush / Runic Invocation / Flame Ward

[cinder kraken]

thanks man

[boreal widget]

Thanks, prob should tweak my echo tree more now doing that

[molten cobalt]

lostwood folly makes each false temple give ~2000 amber

with the more amber node on weaver tree

and you get a bunch from trove too

[stiff ice]

Hi guys, I am new to the game and i just got it. any recommendations or tips please

[molten cobalt]

but you print so many imprinted items in trove

[stiff ice]

i have 7 pts

[molten cobalt]

find a build that looks fun then find a guide

[stiff ice]

is this website good ?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/

[boreal widget]

This is what I came with if doing the trove spam. Grabbed double echos, maxed out +3 exalted from troves, and grabbed possessed rares for more amber drops

[molten cobalt]

does anyone know how much more amber posession gives?

[boreal widget]

No clue, they drop amber whent hey wouldn't of before. no clue what possessing does otherwise

[molten cobalt]

makes them stronger

but its only 10% for rares

[boreal widget]

Yea but rares are everywhere

[molten cobalt]

i would love more amber

but dunno where the 2 points should come from

[boreal widget]

Also surprised you don't have favor caches over loot lizards

[molten cobalt]

im swimming in favor man

[boreal widget]

favor cache is really common and extra atop regular caches, get one every other echo minimum and works with imprint

[molten cobalt]

dont need more

[boreal widget]

Don't use it for exalts? Using the mono no mono trick I can dump 100k favor in 2-3 echos

[molten cobalt]

wait it works with imprints?

[boreal widget]

Yea favor caches count as caches for imprint drop chance

[molten cobalt]

😮

[boreal widget]

They're just regular caches but dump out favor

[molten cobalt]

how do you know they with with the bottom right imprint

[boreal widget]

Because they only drop favor normally

but randomly somtimes dump a pile of exalted items from imprint

[molten cobalt]

well ok i need that then

hell yeah

what to delete though

maybe the champion lizard companion

[ruby flax]

what are good leveling uniques for a new mage?

[boreal widget]

Yea blue/green lizards are kinda meh

I also don't like pile or runes from echo objective cause it so rarely gives havoc/redemption and I have a billion of the rest

[molten cobalt]

fair

[boreal widget]

I've also really liked pile of woven echoes drop chance from champions. It adds up

Like half the time they drop 2-3 false temples lmao

[molten cobalt]

yeah but that doesnt work with the farming method i use

otherwise i would take that too

[boreal widget]

Doesn't it? When you go to place more you'll have so many extra false temples you can get more lost troves

Every single dropped temple is 750 amber saved

[molten cobalt]

you mean this?

[boreal widget]

Left one of that

[molten cobalt]

yeah

"regular echoes"

[boreal widget]

false temple counts as regular echo iirc

[molten cobalt]

not woven echoes

no

see the webbing on all of them

they are all counted as woven

[boreal widget]

Does it not? I'll run a few cause I coulda sworn I've seen them drop in those echos. It just doesn't work with stuff like pillar of skulls

[molten cobalt]

i would like it to work

but to me it sounds like it does not

[boreal widget]

Eh tree is buggy as hell anyways. Like the incubated silk node is bugged or I'd grab it for more amber

[molten cobalt]

there are other good echoes too that you cannot buy, i would like more of those as well

such as this

[molten cobalt]

we also have the fact that the entire inventory menu is literally called "woven echoes"

and that echo is in there

[raw monolith]

anybody have any old disintegrate build plans i could look at for inspiration

[harsh abyss]

I was putting together a lightning disintegrate version a bit ago, it's very rough though. I know there are a few different fire versions going around

[cosmic dove]

This is a very rough lightning disintegrate + brand of deception build. Invocation is Echoes of Thunder that applies brand. Static orb is for 100% lightning aegis. Could consider static or glyph instead. Decent ward from rune generation + mana stacking.
I'm new and I'm sure it isnt a great build. But for inspiration:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oRnarkLo

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (66)

General:

▸ Health: 1,878, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,031.88, Regen: 23.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 270%, Regen: 220/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 85 Int / 9 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 47% / 71% / 23% / 61% / 24% / 24%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 70%, Threshold: 489
▸ Armor Mitigation: 15% (468)
▸ Block Chance: 44%, Mitigation: 27% (540)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Static Orb / Runic Invocation / Flame Rush / Flame Ward

[harsh abyss]

Just a FYI, your chest and helm shock affixes don't work for brand

It has to be generic shock chance, not a specific type, so "shock chance with lightning skills" doesn't apply

[raw monolith]

im attempting afire varient at the moment and ill see where i get with it and ill post if its any good later lol

butr thanks for help all the same 🙂

[cosmic dove]

that's annoying. I got that straight from a brand build guide which I guess was 100% wrong.
what is the normal source for generic shock chance in a brand build typically?

[harsh abyss]

Vilatria helmet (T7) is a good source, other than that shock chance on weapon and neck I think?

I'm not an expert on it

I'm currently looking at a sorcerer version of a lightning disintegrate build

[molten cobalt]

slam on weapon, vilatria mod

slam on amulet

idols

like these

[cosmic dove]

thanks

[harsh abyss]

ahh yeah those idols are great

[molten cobalt]

also this variant

if you dont have frailty on gloves

[warped crow]

too bad they gutted mana stacking builds ... while adding those mana + mana regen idols

i feel like the identity of fractured crown should be the identity of sorc uwu

no ward

just mana and endurance scaling

[harsh abyss]

Well, skip fractured crown and go for Wall of Nothing + Seed of Ekkidrasil, it is the same thing but better (and no ward loss)

As I mentioned above, I was thinking of a heavy mana stacking lightning disintegrate + static orb (charged ground) build

[celest rain]

@boreal widget what was that thing you did earlier to try to reroll a bunch of unique rings?

To try and get LP?

Is it better than Egging them?

[harsh abyss]

Its the turtle. You put LP items into it and it either adds LP or sets it to zero

Its rare to get boosted LP, but if it fails you can always egg them for another try

[celest rain]

Do they have to have LP to start with?

Like I can't put something in with 0 LP to try and get it?

Is Egg the only way to do that?

[cosmic dove]

Are there any tricks with mage and dodge that don't require insane investment? Looking at this affix:

[harsh abyss]

Yeah gotta have 1lp

[celest rain]

Aight

[harsh abyss]

Dodge is better than people give it credit for

[cosmic dove]

this came up searching

wasnt sure if there were known tricks or anything

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I have a 3lp one of those belts, I'm waiting to slam it until I have an exalt with t7 dodge and t5+ %dodge

One trick is Foot of the Mountain converts dodge rating to endurance threshold. You can get your entire life pool covered by endurance with it.

[cosmic dove]

I was just noodling build number 7347 (I may have a problem) and it will have 3 x Heo runes so I thought about that affix and how to use dodge

[harsh abyss]

Theres the staff that gives flat spell damage to invocations based off the lowest of your ward/armor/dodge, that is an easy way to get a bunch of dodge for that staff

And the 3xHeo invocation is cold DoT I believe

[cosmic dove]

it is yeah

[wintry nimbus]

Myy failure tab so far

[buoyant monolith]

Is 99 dex the max you can get?

[uncut zealot]

No. I had a lich that had 275

[harsh abyss]

Okay, here's my short review for Battlemage's Endeavor hit build:
TL:DR It isn't very good because lack of spell damage.

BE gives you ~50 flat spell damage, BUT it's divided between cold and lightning. This forces you to either ignore one type of scaling or scale lesser damage types like Spell Damage and Elemental Damage. At ~4.5 attacks per second, I could kill stuff, but at 100 corruption it just wasn't fast enough to be fun. Bosses, particularly thick harbingers just have too much health for the amount of damage you do, so that's only going to get worse as you get to higher corruptions.

I could probably have improved my gear to a point where it felt better, but with T7 Attack Speed on BE and Falcon Fists, the damage at 100 corruption needed to feel a bit better for me to want to continue working and fill out the build.

There is possibly a frostbite version of this build that is MUCH stronger. Between Mana Arc (cold converted), Lightning Blast (cold) and Frost Claw hits, at my current attack speed, you're hitting ~25 times per second with spells. That should stack up huge amounts of frostbite using the RM node that converts armor shred to frostbite, and if you went RM with it, you could use Flame Rush (cold converted) to apply the cold brand for even more damage over time.

It's a neat item and idea, but it's just not quite strong enough to feel good on the outset. Like most builds you can PROBABLY push it to a point where you're killing regular aberroth with it, but the play style just isn't enough to keep me engaged

[buoyant monolith]

Thanks!

[celest rain]

Getting a Twisted Heart to drop is gonna kill me >.<

been killing this asshole dragon nonstop

[boreal widget]

Oh right boss drops suck to farm if you arent CoF

[harsh abyss]

I always get mega lucky with twisted hearts for some reason.

I've been theorycrafting mana stacking related things... absolute (theoretical) max mana

[cosmic dove]

o.O

[hybrid schooner]

do these not have weaver suffix for light damage? looking through my inventory to see what the roll would be on weaver but I dont have any

@harsh abysscrazy mana. would it be possible to scale the mana for damage to mana in addition to a defenseive layer of health or ward

[harsh abyss]

Well, that level of mana isn't realistically attainable

[hybrid schooner]

mana eating a lot of your prefix slots. are you scaling damage with it somehow

[harsh abyss]

I have a theory that you could do a good mana strike build with World Splitter. Every 10 mana would give you 1.5 flat damage and 1% crit multi

[hybrid schooner]

interesting

[harsh abyss]

Mana strike doesn't have a lot of inherent More multipliers, but with that level of scaling, you might be able to get it to a point where it does some serious damage. Especially since when you're above 1000 mana, you'll have 100% crit chance with zero investment into crit chance anywhere other than 1 point in the mana strike tree

[hybrid schooner]

so were talking flat mele. so adding the spark on on hit that people use to do with mana strike (and making it ranged) would not really help?

[harsh abyss]

Well, the ranged version of mana strike still counts as melee

But that flat damage is only melee damage

So it wouldn't affect any spells you trigger like spark charge

[hybrid schooner]

so full mele crit damage

[harsh abyss]

Yeah

[hybrid schooner]

anything but intel builds this season. plz fix intel

idk i think it says a lot tht mages are finding more value in everything but intel right now

[boreal widget]

@molten cobalt It works

[hybrid schooner]

wats this

[boreal widget]

He only does woven echoes self sustaining them and we were trying to see if this works in the temple echo despite it not being a 'regular echo'

Turns out it does work, so it helps fund more echos while doing them

[hybrid schooner]

some intel here on imprinting. ive had the opprtunity to imprint a tripple 7 and see what the output is. Its probably produced about 20 belts so far, they are all 77, not 777. But it does seam like it is producing at an increased rate compared to imprinting a 77.

pretty much every time it procs, it produces 2 to 4, 77 belts

[twilit valve]

Does anyone know if the disintegrate dps is bugged or not? shows one number on skill bar, visual dps on target dummy shows 1/10 that number

[harsh abyss]

The dummy has some damage reduction because of the level of the area it's in, the tooltop doesn't take that into account

[celest rain]

Bro

I have killed this god damn bone dragon 100x now

to try and get a twisted heart

literally nothing

[warped zodiac]

does anyone know how disintegrate works together with preparation?
Is it only the first tick that is affected or the full channel duration?

[molten cobalt]

That can happen normally too

[nimble rover]

there is only 1 suffix for damage on them

[celest rain]

Oh shit, my T7 block chance shield sold fast O.o

yee boi, I've actually made money

[boreal widget]

It'll affect entire spellcast, but its 'increase' effect so isn't a very big damage boost.

[boreal widget]

Red ring finally (god I love CoF)

[molten cobalt]

time to flter away all 0-2 lp crap rings

[boreal widget]

No? It can happen in cemetaries but you see it sometimes because you always have 1 point in it to path to the other champion stuff.

[molten cobalt]

oh yeah i do have 1 point

[boreal widget]

The 'drop a bunch of woven echoes on a regular champion' isn't a default thing lol

[molten cobalt]

so basically wording is incorrect

[boreal widget]

Kinda, 'regular echo' is any echo that has an actual reward showing on the map

(when it says that)

So pillar of skulls doesn't display a reward, so wont count as a regular echo for stuff

this one for example you can't farm the infinite spawning mobs in the attribute swapping mission since it isn't counted as a regular echo

but it'll still trigger in temple

[molten cobalt]

btw you just swapped farming method and now FrozenSentinel released new math and new findings @boreal widget

sounds like false temple is out

[boreal widget]

And whats the new one? I ahven't played much today so didn't really try out the old method

[molten cobalt]

echo of reveawing instead

but that would mean we cant proc that imprint for example

because reweaving has no reward

[boreal widget]

:OOOOO

[boreal widget]

But its a cemetary so gets all the bonuses from that yea?

[molten cobalt]

i guess

but losing an imprint is huge

to me who is only trying to farm double t7 for slamming its an absolute deal breaker

does reweaving have a reward or not?

im unsure now

[boreal widget]

I'm pretty sure its a tomb map so no

But I can see how it'd have a comical amount of memory if it works with folly

Since its already a huge cemetary map dropping memory already

[molten cobalt]

yes about 3k profit per map he says

compared to the 1200 ish profit of false temple

taking slightly longer to finish though

[boreal widget]

Yea, so an extra trove map or two each time. I can see it. + more champions, guranteed nemesis, and guranteed exiled mages

[molten cobalt]

for full clear

[molten cobalt]

exact points he makes in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlwVUGd9v0

[boreal widget]

And since you can grab the thing that makes stuff drop a ton of woven echoes in cemetaries, which then at the end you can reroll for better ones

[molten cobalt]

but losing imprint

[boreal widget]

and being in a cemetary means a lot more havoc/redemption runes

True, but commoner's is the least common one since it drops off just any regular enemy

Its insanely rare from what i've seen

and it'll still work when doing troves

[molten cobalt]

not at all

i got a double t7 amulet imprinted and i get it to proc quite often

also had red ring in it previously and also procced often

reading a comment that the timeline has an effect on the echoes you drop

[boreal widget]

As you say that mine procs <.<

[boreal widget]

Oh i'd hate that if true

[molten cobalt]

"It's important to mention the timeline you're using (The Black Sun) because the Cemetery of Weaving will be on a different map type in other timelines. In my experience the other base maps are not nearly as efficient as the armory map you keep getting.
6"

[boreal widget]

Oh! Yea

Some echoes will have a different tileset depending on timeline

[molten cobalt]

The Reweaving Cemetry Map seems to depend on the timeline; that might be important.

I just did the setup in the Stolen Lance timeline, and here I am getting Willow Marsh Woven Echos exclusively.

Apparently Black Sun gives you the Forge, havent tested the rest.

[rustic gulch]

How is mage level of tank for HC after changes ?

As in can you still just go with the rune master one that gives ward and still hit like 12k ward ?

[molten cobalt]

12k ward would pretty much be the very peak and a short term peak at that

for the meta build

STR stacking brand of deception has excellent tank

[rustic gulch]

Hmm I was assuming you get lots of Reowyn's Frostguard. But I guess ward retention is an issue

[rustic gulch]

Is that just from stacking str then using cleaver for massive int tho ?

[molten cobalt]

yes

[rustic gulch]

Hmm don't have that sadly

[molten cobalt]

not familiar with that build but could be

[rustic gulch]

Basically frostguard lasts for 13s and gives you

Initial ward granted: 100 + 3 per intelligence.
Ward granted every 0.4 seconds: 20 + 1 per intelligence.

So with 100 int let's say that's

• 400 flat wards
• 120 ward per 0.4 seconds

[molten cobalt]

yeah that wont work with the brand of deception build

because the invocation is spoken for

[nimble rover]

if you want real ward you need to play mirror bolts.

[rustic gulch]

What's mirror bolts ?

[nimble rover]

invocation

[rustic gulch]

Yeah you run this with lots of cast speed + ward on cast and something like frost claw

Is this even that good ?

Ward gained by Allies hit: 20 + 1 per intellignece
Ward gained on Ricochet: 30 + 1.5 per intelligence.

[nimble rover]

it is highest ward rm build possible

[rustic gulch]

Can you stack them ?

As in get multiple of them at once

I just know last time I played frostguard I had like 2k ward at lv30.

But that was also a while ago

[molten cobalt]

does anyone know what the lizard tail actually means?

[boreal widget]

Ultra rare drop that teases of a secret lizard level (there isn't one)

[molten cobalt]

oh

is it a ring?

[molten cobalt]

never seen that before

[boreal widget]

It wont show if you have 'keys' hidden

[nimble rover]

yes. you will need to double cast them with Flame rush

[boreal widget]

As it counts as a dungeon key

[molten cobalt]

i show keys

[nimble rover]

what is fun

[molten cobalt]

then struggle

[nimble rover]

well you know you can still play the builds just without snapshots

[boreal widget]

I'm enjoying black hole, but I'm only comfortably doing 400corruption with it

[molten cobalt]

yup

bye

[nimble rover]

not every. just RM

[boreal widget]

Yea there's uber sorc build not using it iirc, and a few others

[molten cobalt]

mage is very weak without it

[boreal widget]

Nah, some meteor mana battery for lightning blast one iirc

[nimble rover]

lb

[boreal widget]

I think its the first one if you look at tools for sorcerer builds this patch

[nimble rover]

bina also posted his lb rm. take a look

for inspiration

[molten cobalt]

@boreal widget its actually even worse

you essentially kill 2 imprint slots

the echo reward one goes too

[rustic gulch]

What's the deal with brand of deception ?

Just hit lots of time to apply lots of it ?

[fair stump]

Can only have one stack

[rustic gulch]

Ahh

Yeah not sure if I just wanna go frostbite frost claw runemaster and see how that feels

It was really good back in the day. But also not played mage in like over a year.

[hard egret]

@spare pendant is this build still good? im a lazy pet player but this caught my eye as a possible exception to pets due to how lazy it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIeHXY9LHKI

[spare pendant]

there is a better version by Frozen Sentinel on YT

https://youtu.be/1SqrHIIi-w0

[hard egret]

thanks for the reply !

[molten cobalt]

no, just hits hard for 3 seconds

but you reapply it before 3 seconds

[molten cobalt]

@boreal widget when you think about it loot lizards aint that good

early on this can be good

but i cant remember last time a lizard actually gave me something of real value

some 1lp unique i will shove into the turtle sure, that happens a lot, but thats not actually value

[nova gyro]

Is the focus channeling thing fixed?!

[molten cobalt]

yes

[nova gyro]

So happy I could cry

[covert stone]

Hello, I am trying to make a fun build, a freezing aura build with the least buttons to click (or just using 1 skill), I want the aura to kill all the stuff for me. Can someone tell me which mastery would be the best suited for this?
I was thinking about the sorcerer mastery since the passiv tree gives the most elemental damage which would push the damage of the aura quite a lot. Spellblade seems to be nice too but that would imply that I would have to attack myself which I actually wanted to avoid and it would more increase my cold melee damage instead of my aura damage.
And runemaster I don't know, it doesn't seem to do much for the aura damage except for the +30% ele damage and some elemental penetration, but that's mostly it.

[molten cobalt]

you assume this is even possible

[drowsy bridge]

which mage builds can kill uber abberoth?

[molten cobalt]

hydra, brand of deception, shatter strike

[nimble rover]

lb/bod/hydra/mirrorbolts/shatter

[drowsy bridge]

thanks guys

and which of those have also good clear?

[molten cobalt]

brand of deception

[nimble rover]

hydra/bod

[covert stone]

I am not sure yet, should be more of a fun build of course.

not expecting to push it super high 😄

[molten cobalt]

does it have to he cold?

must be freezing aura?

[drowsy bridge]

thanks!

[molten cobalt]

the functionality you're explaining is basically brand of deception, but thats not an aura nor is it cold dmg

but it works the way you want it, a 1 button build where everything dies around you as you walk past

[drowsy bridge]

do you have a planner?

[molten cobalt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Br34Jmlo this is mine atm

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (19) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (59)

General:

▸ Health: 1,683, Regen: 27/s
▸ Mana: 274.51, Regen: 16.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 507%, Regen: 196/s
▸ Attributes: 176 Str / 23 Dex / 176 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / 127% / 144% / 93% / 77% / 78% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 337
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (332)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 66% (5,351)
▸ Block Chance: 190%, Mitigation: 46% (1,727)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 104%

Used skills:

Focus / Frost Wall / Flame Rush / Runic Invocation / Flame Ward

[covert stone]

I think cold would be the most safe to play it I guess, because of the freezing. But would also work as fire or lighting.

[nova gyro]

What do you run for clear?

[covert stone]

This sounds great ❤️

[molten cobalt]

that is clear

[nova gyro]

Fire Light Fire?

[molten cobalt]

plasma orb is what applies the DoT yes

and the DoT instantly kills everything

[nimble rover]

i would like to play dex plasma i guess damage will be insane

[molten cobalt]

you could but dnt need to

dex loses you a lot of defenses

[nimble rover]

not rly

your main lose is melee range block

and you are getting a lot of evasion

[molten cobalt]

you lose block chance, you lose armor, you lose a lot of cooldown which = ward

[nimble rover]

you lose armor yes. but not that large amount because of armor high value huge DR

block is as i said only melee range with bastion

[molten cobalt]

im not here to convince you, i dont care which version you play

but STR version already crushes 2500 corr

[nimble rover]

any archer/caster do not care about this kind of block

[molten cobalt]

you are always in melee

[nimble rover]

main reason is no one plays dex because str was forced from the start i guedd

[molten cobalt]

STR is mandatory for the single target version

and since it also works for clear people dont wanna juggle 2 sets

what limits you isnt damage output it is defenses

at 2500 corr you will still insta kill packs, but you will die more often

[nimble rover]

i mean bastion is not working against ranged mobs

thats was my point

[molten cobalt]

very little is ranged when you flame rush from pack to pack and instantly end up at melee

but go ahead argue about everything

[nimble rover]

well im not arguing. i thought it was known limited factor

[molten cobalt]

you do you

[nimble rover]

and you for some reason think its just the best build in the world 😄

[molten cobalt]

it absolutely is not

but its the best mage build atm

[nimble rover]

well i just see how you biased

[molten cobalt]

i have dex pieces to swap to

i already went down your path

it is not needed at all

[rustic gulch]

Just for pure tank I assume runemaster > sorc ?

In that you have ward gained on invocation and invocation that grant ward or cast a spell ect.

[molten cobalt]

yes

[past hedge]

anyone else have an issue with their hydrahedron not auto casting after flame rush sometimes? yet runic invocations goes on cd.. happens sometimes 1-4 times in a row so there's me running about like an idiot trying to dodge all the boss mechanics. gets me killed so often

[nova gyro]

What corruption do you clear with orb?

[molten cobalt]

i have not tested it's limits, I'm chilling at 1200

but @hybrid schooner went up to 2500

and another guy, forgot who, also pushed way past 2000 just because

there is very little benefit in doing so however

[nova gyro]

How do you deal with elites and such with orb at that level?

[molten cobalt]

what elites 😄

i never see them

even posessed and enraged just poof

[nova gyro]

I mean like champs and timeline bosses and stuff

[molten cobalt]

champs die pretty much instantly

bosses i swap to LCL

[past hedge]

what build is this?

[molten cobalt]

brand autobomber

[molten cobalt]

I'll show you a boss at corr 1222, hold on

[past hedge]

have a link to guide/planner?

[molten cobalt]

boss with ward

[molten cobalt]

this

anything else under boss you just use plasma orb

[molten cobalt]

posted one a bit further up if you scroll

[nova gyro]

Do you have a quick way to swap? :D I hate swapping so much

[molten cobalt]

takes like 3-4 seconds

just swap the skills

you dont respec points

[nova gyro]

Gotcha

Why do you not have all your points spent then?

[molten cobalt]

no benefit

and i would just constantly lose them anyway due to changing chest for snapshot

[nova gyro]

whats that snapshot thing?

[molten cobalt]

make frostwall damage bonus stick

[nova gyro]

That is done with a chest armor?

[molten cobalt]

you can get frostwall duration on chest armor

[nova gyro]

then place frostwall and change armor and just ignore it?

[molten cobalt]

no

you pass through frost wall just before it ends, with flame rush

then the damage bonus that would otherwise be short is perma

until you die or move to a diff part of the game

or until you pass through a frost wall again

or manual cast runic invocation

[nova gyro]

i see

move to diff part means what?

[molten cobalt]

leave monolith

[nova gyro]

ok

[molten cobalt]

entire monolith counts as one area

no matter timeline

going to refil prophecies or buying echoes would be changing area

or going to Julra

[nova gyro]

ok thanks

cant wait for when we can make certain items show up on the map

[molten cobalt]

how do i hide affix shards?

cant find it anywhere in filter

[cosmic dove]

How does this frostbite affix work exactly? It's not on hit so it is on tick of a DOT (like blizzard invocation)?

[nimble rover]

i guess this is the answer

[cosmic dove]

boo

but thanks

[rustic gulch]

Yeah it's when the spell hits

I'm actually having a good time so far with frostbite claw + nova.

And runic + flame ward still as stupid as ever early

Running around with 390 life and 1.2k ward

[covert stone]

I saw a guy using enchant weapon on a sorcerer, I am confused, enchant weapon doesn't work on spells right? :/

[cosmic dove]

Usually it has to do with these two nodes

can give a big boost to ignite builds

[covert stone]

Oh ok thanks that makes sense now.

[harsh abyss]

I don't think you do

[molten cobalt]

excuse me?!

how the shit is that not possible

[harsh abyss]

🤷‍♀️ They''ve always maintained that they want you to want to pick up shards, and you pick them all up with one click so it's not a huge deal

[molten cobalt]

as long as i have to click shards i want them gone completely from my view

[molten cobalt]

when you have 3000+ of every shard you really grow tired of seeing them

well maybe not 3000 of every skill shard, but you get my point

i will forever not need more shards

[harsh abyss]

Well, you can whine about it in the #1210282176680169562 and maybe they'll change it, but I doubt it tbh 🤷‍♀️

[molten cobalt]

they should make them auto vacuum

save us constant clicking to clear our view

but sadly I think you're right, they won't bother

[celest rain]

@edgy sage there, went through my stash and searched all my Exalted items on the AH for an hour and sold whatever seemed worth money:

I'm not ultra poor anymore 😛

[edgy sage]

good start 😄

[celest rain]

If the AH actually cooperated and wasn't constantly broken and laggy

this would be easier

[edgy sage]

Yeah

did you update your filter to fit those affixes?

like 1million plus recolour red

5mill green

and so forth?

[celest rain]

I just recolour for 1+ T7 affix, 2 T6+ affixes and 3+ T6 affixes

And just look what drops myself

[molten cobalt]

MG actually has to loot every t7?

i even hide single t7 items now

in CoF with some prophecies you'd get lootsplosions of 40+ t7 items at a time

[celest rain]

I mean I just sold several T7 singles for tens of millions so

ye

some are even going for hundreds of millions

[molten cobalt]

i guess it's just much easier finding t7 with CoF

they are so damn common i need to hide them

i also hide double t6

t7+t6 minimum and i usually dont loot those either

[rustic gulch]

Man not looked at frostguard in a while.

What have they done to my boy. The amount of ward is now like half and no more 30% DR.

Is there any other good defensive invocation ?

[molten cobalt]

maybe it was simply too OP

[rustic gulch]

I mean yeah

You had mages with 20k ward and 30% DR

[celest rain]

I mean... that is the point of CoF 😛

It would be weird if it wasn't that way.

[rustic gulch]

I'm thinking I still want to go runemaster over sorc due to cast speed.

Think frostguard is still fine even if it only gives me like 400 ward per second. Not sure any other providers the same style of buff.

As its a single button every 10 seconds or so to keep that up

[edgy sage]

nah I filter out most

[sinful coyote]

frostguard was nerfed in 1.1 iirc?

[celest rain]

I would filter out specific T7s if I knew enough to know which ones are valuable

[sinful coyote]

but even it’s nerfed i still loves it

[celest rain]

but also if you do that you're risking missing out on market changes

when the meta shifts

[rustic gulch]

Nerfed in

1.1 and 1.0

Duration + ward gained down and 30% DR and freeze effect removed

[harsh abyss]

Its still good though. 2.5x intelligence as ward per second is significant

[molten cobalt]

i wonder what it would give me

though i cant use it

[harsh abyss]

With all the ward nerfs, they could probably bring the 30% DR back, heh

[molten cobalt]

@boreal widget btw, about losing 2 imprint slots if doing reweaving, apparently the math supports that and the amount of extra cache maps you get more than makes up for it. supposedly. I have not done the math myself

[rustic gulch]

Wait seems in 1.1 they upped the ward amount and remove the DR.

[rustic gulch]

2.5 ?

Ahh yeah it's every 0.4 seconds for some strange reason. So 100 int would still be like 300 ward per sec and a burst of 900 when you first use it.

Oww also forgot you can automate it via flame rush.

[molten cobalt]

300 ward per ward? 😄

[harsh abyss]

Yeah 100 int would be 250 ward per second (100 at .4, 100 at .8, 100 at 1.2. 100 at 1.6, 100 at 2.0) so 500 every 2 seconds

[rustic gulch]

Well estimate.

If you had 100 int it would be 270 ward per sec

Wait no

Base of 20 per .4 sec

So base of 50 ?

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, 50 + (2.5x int) ward per second

[rustic gulch]

I mean getting that to 400 ward per sec seems very possible.

[harsh abyss]

Its pretty significant

[rustic gulch]

I'm not sure if I'd have to reduce amount of cast speed / frostbite chance tho to

[sinful coyote]

at 150int you get 425wards/s

wut skill u wanna do for dmg then

[molten cobalt]

which elements is this invocation

you could make flame rush itself apply brand

so vs bosses you could potentially use this defensive invocation

if you up the AoE of FR

[sinful coyote]

CFC for forstguard

[rustic gulch]

Frostbite

So frostclaw that trigger cold nova and ice barrage. All are cost so can work with frostbite via cold spells.

[molten cobalt]

ok so you'd need fire flamerush

and lose the 250% lightning dmg

wait no the 250% is flameward

[rustic gulch]

Yeah flame rush to apply the brand of sub

[molten cobalt]

would be annoying as hell

but possible

[rustic gulch]

Don't need flame rush

Flame guard works

[molten cobalt]

flame guard?

[sinful coyote]

are there many nodes support frostbite?

[rustic gulch]

Convert flame rush to cold.

Then you have

• cold flame rush
• fire flame ward
• cold frostclaw

[molten cobalt]

what is flame guard

we are talking about differen builds

[rustic gulch]

Yeah.

Can get it on base frostclaw but also idol and also passive converts armour shred to frostbite chance

[rustic gulch]

Flame ward sorry

[molten cobalt]

rather use cold flame ward

for the extra armor

[rustic gulch]

But then no brand from ice rush (flame rush convert)

[molten cobalt]

you wouldnt use ice rush then

you'd use base, fire

flame rush doesnt benefit from swapping element

but flame ward does

but applying brand with FR aoe would be super annoying

[rustic gulch]

I guess

Possibly something to play with

It's just cos I like having movement on 2nd skill. And if you go flame rush have to swap order

[molten cobalt]

thats not a big deal

your brain will adapt

[rustic gulch]

But basically you flame ward to give ward and defence, then flame rush that gains ward and then trigger invocation on end which caused frostguard and gives more ward

[unreal blade]

with decent int it's more like 600 wps (counting the burst as over 13 seconds)

[rustic gulch]

Ahh yeah I guess so.

I'm thinking 12k ward total is very possible.

[rustic gulch]

Just checked and you don't really have the points.

Since you go into duration and cooldown so it's full uptime.

[full bluff]

I can barely sustain 12k ward with 224 int

[rustic gulch]

What's your setup ?

As in do you have ward retention idols and ward threshold stuff ?

[full bluff]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ba4pkeaQ

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (17) / Spellblade (8) / Runemaster (60)

General:

▸ Health: 3,604, Regen: 39.74/s
▸ Mana: 252.51, Regen: 10.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 486%, Regen: 48/s
▸ Attributes: 35 Str / 21 Dex / 224 Int / 9 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 94% / 82% / 67% / 80% / 86% / 86%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 721
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (115)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,269)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 4%

Used skills:

Runic Invocation / Flame Ward / Runebolt / Teleport / Lightning Blast

[unreal blade]

retention over 8-9k is pretty rough. you have to be generating a ton of ward to push over that with int nerfed. last season it was more like 10-11k was sort of the soft cap.

[full bluff]

A lot of my ward comes from twisted heart

[rustic gulch]

Ahh I get you

[rustic gulch]

What is your invocation ?

Can't tell from skill order

[full bluff]

cold fire cold, for ward

[rustic gulch]

So are you using the lightning for clear and other for single target ?

[full bluff]

Using lightning blast for single target and clear, with spark charges

[rustic gulch]

What's runebolt for ?

[full bluff]

Mana regen, more damage buff, haste, rune word inferno trigger

[rustic gulch]

Okay

So I guess I'm using flame rush in that place that gives a little bit of ward and automates invocation instead.

However I guess very similar setup but I'm looking at low life and ward retention via idols. So aiming for 600% ward retention

[celest rain]

@boreal widget Do I take the straight armour or armour from channeling buff from the Spirits of Fire Monolith? 😛

I honestly can't decide

Twice as much armour while Disintegrating seems real nice, but I worry about getting popped when I'm not actively channeling >.<

[wild nymph]

so why (were) frost claw+enigma mana strike on a spellblade a thing? what made them work? (especially compared to just spark charge on melee hit+enigma) ?
i feel like im missing something here

[cosmic dove]

You can remap all the keys. I like disintegrate on RMB but needed it in the second position for lightning rune. I remapped the 2nd "key" to RMB and it works fine.
Just an FYI.

[rustic gulch]

Oww did not think of that.

But I think I'll still dont have enough points to spec into cold anyway.

[wild nymph]

you could just have no cd attack on your right-most side slot

[cosmic dove]

yeah I have static orb in right most slot, mapped to E (I'm WASD for movement)

[rustic gulch]

Wait I'm on controller

Can you remap controller ?

[proven fern]

Hello all, i stuck a lot in empowered corrupt 100 any advice ? what should i focus on my character ?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A1y3MJ5A

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 92

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (81)

General:

▸ Health: 1,109, Regen: 31.91/s
▸ Mana: 403.21, Regen: 17.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 107%, Regen: 73/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 3 Dex / 46 Int / 3 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 112% / 153% / 204% / 118% / 88% / 113% / 46%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 32%, Threshold: 266
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (191)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (442)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 9% (56)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 75%

Used skills:

Lightning Blast / Teleport / Flame Ward / Focus / Static Orb

[proven fern]

(lightning blast sorcerer)

[wild nymph]

change your lightning blast to something else probably

[proven fern]

KEKW why ?

i love the spell

[proven fern]

what does it mean (sry my first characterà

)

[fading snow]

lightning blast is fine for clear (edit: or single target with convergence, but his is spec'd for clear)

[fading snow]

are you dying too much, or failing to kill small monsters quickly, or failing to kill big monsters/bosses?

[proven fern]

yep i use static orb for single target

small monster is quit decent atm

not one shot but fast

but for big boss / static orb it's really not enough

and i yea i'm squishy af!

i tried to cap my res and add avoidance crit but still rekt

[fading snow]

cap res and crit avoid is good, and you could use more flat health or ward stats

you have leech and frailty, that's good

honestly I'd just slap on a twisted heart https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwVgHATAjAbEA

you get it from the necrotic dragon timeline boss

other than that, just aim to get more health / ward

[proven fern]

someone told me to choose between health/stamina threshold etc and ward stuff

i choosed ward

[proven fern]

look good

[fading snow]

hybrid is good this patch, especially when you're at 100 corr, you just want ehp number to go up 😁

[proven fern]

allright what about my damage ?

i just look for more % ?

[fading snow]

Mmm for the static orb I suspect you don't have enough mana for the mana nodes. Though I haven't run the numbers

getting some flat spell crit from something like https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwRhGYHYCYg would help your damage quite a bit. Typically hit based skills will want to cap crit chance, eventually

[proven fern]

oh OK crit, i thought cast speed was the must have

[fading snow]

cast speed also good 😁

definitely kill the lagon timeline boss until you get this blessing

[proven fern]

allright thank you!!!

is lightning blast build weak

or i do everything wrong maybe

[fading snow]

mage is probably the weakest class this patch, so it will be easier to turn your brain off and play sentinel 😛 but if you're having fun then stick with it

[molten cobalt]

probably? definitely

[proven fern]

i really love everything blasted with this spell aahaha

i didn't know there was a big gap

[rustic gulch]

Okay so been looking at the frostclaw builds.

Any idea why sorc is just more often used ?

Runemaster gets 10% cast speed and better defence via frostguard.

Is it just something about sorc having less buttons or doing more initial spell dmg ?

[rustic gulch]

Sentinel is currently 50% played. As in half of all players are just sentinel.

[proven fern]

there's no patch ?

i'm new to the game ^^

to nerf/up etc ?

[molten cobalt]

not a single 7-7 or even 7-6 😦

[rustic gulch]

Ahh yeah there was a whole season patch like a few weeks ago. Like 9 months worth of development patch. Sentinel got a whole rework and ward got a big nerf early on.

One big thing about sentinel is just all the free stats they get. On my paladin I had like 50% of all resistances just for existing.

I say sentinel is good. I mean paladin and voidknight specially are good.

[molten cobalt]

shit...

so close

1 attribute off

unacceptable

[rustic gulch]

I read that as 93 ward per goon rune

[molten cobalt]

huh?

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (12) / Spellblade (69)

General:

▸ Health: 1,881, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 131.98, Regen: 12.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 346%, Regen: 267/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 39 Dex / 152 Int / 9 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 122% / 72% / 106% / 73% / 95% / 146% / 72%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 376
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (212)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,268)

Used skills:

Volcanic Orb / Flame Ward / Enchant Weapon / Mana Strike / Teleport

[boreal widget]

Yeup, I stopped using them cause I don't think I've ever gotten anything besides random 1LP uniques, and the occasioanl rare 1T7 item. It was nice when I needed shards/runes still

@molten cobalt This is what I ended up with for the 'new' farming method

[molten cobalt]

yeah i took away most of the lizard nodes too

[boreal widget]

What was the consensus on the 'timeline' thing?

[molten cobalt]

kept 2 points in the lizard from cache though

[molten cobalt]

black sun wasnt it?

[obtuse pine]

I’m following a Maxroll HydraHedron build but I’ve noticed you can’t add attunement on mage helm or body armour. What’s weird is that Fundamental Criterion says more dmg per attunement. Is this a bug?

[molten cobalt]

you can and no bug

[sinful coyote]

do attribute swap in woven echos

[sinful coyote]

what was the name of that?

[molten cobalt]

Oerden's Watch

[sinful coyote]

yea

[molten cobalt]

nice one

speaking of swapping attributes..

it will be like this

[obtuse pine]

Bro then something is wrong with my game then because I have 173 shards of attunement

[molten cobalt]

read

you can only apply int or dex shards

but thats not how you apply attunement

or str

[obtuse pine]

i think this might help because even if i read it doesn't change the fact i can't add attunement on my helm as shown

[boreal widget]

Yes you max out intellect and then swap it to attunement

takes 1FP though

[molten cobalt]

noone said you should be able to

read the text of the echo

its like me having STR on items

you swap it with the echo

[obtuse pine]

yea based on the echo i have to do that in order for me to swap int to attunement

[molten cobalt]

int or dex to attunement

its how everyone do it

[obtuse pine]

yea i've been reading the guide back and forth to see what i missed and it never explained that key thing which is why i poppped by this chat to seek help. Thank you

[molten cobalt]

quite a few new echoes with key crafting mechanics

make sure you read all of them

[obtuse pine]

i don't have all the echos unlocked yet so once i find that one echo i need ima bast thru it

[molten cobalt]

this one

the small hammer icon means it does something with crafting

[obtuse pine]

OHHH ok