🧙┃mage

[sacred flume]

any shatterstrike leveling builds?

[solemn viper]

Welp uber is a nono with black hole lmao

Standing still with disintegrate is not a great idea lol

[left hill]

is mana-stacked missing mana Glyph of Dominion still the best way to accumulate lots of Fire Aura stacks?

[solemn viper]

Switched to dominance and still got one tapped… I got 8k armor, 2rr and titan heart with 3k health and 3k ward

Skill issues I guess lol

[pine falcon]

Fastest 300-500 mage build?

[boreal widget]

Normal abby died really fast with black hole in my build so idk. Like he interrupted his own phase transition fast. Just depended on how much he ran around but some abilities he just stood still long enough to melt away to me occasioanlly tossing a black hole his way while running around dodging

But yea uber prob is just a hard check DPS wise that black hole alone can't make

[solemn viper]

Yeah I mean normal is very squishy compared to uber, also deals no damage

[sand cosmos]

@full bluff Which one do you scale your damage with? Direct hit (cold) or spark hit (lightning)? If former, why conversion of LB to cold (for freeze chance / chill?)?

[boreal widget]

A +2 nihilis granted it another huge chunk of damage might help. As well as a high LP grasp and stymied. Like just +1 skillpoint is straight up going from 1mil a tick per black hole to 1.3mil a tick per black hole.

[full bluff]

I use spark charges so main scaling is from int, spell damage, crit, lightning. I use cold conversion to match cfc invocation

[boreal widget]

But again I don't think it'd be enough for uber. Damage is high but unless you got some serious CDR/good gear its just not spammable enough to stack them up.

[sand cosmos]

Convergence vs Closed Circuit - did you try the alternative (3 points refunded, 1 spend and maybe one more for +50% chain back to yourself)? I like the idea of 0 cost LB, and having mana issues still...

[full bluff]

You need convergence for single target, without it lightning blast becomes too weak against single targets.

[sand cosmos]

But with Closed Circuit I have twice as many chains, and the chains go back to me, back to boss, thus same number of hits vs boss?

[full bluff]

No, it doesn't work like that. I tested it 🙂 Was hoping for that effect too

[sand cosmos]

Need to slam mana cost on the ladle then...

[full bluff]

Better enjoy convergence while it lasts, will probably me nerfed next patch

I have no mana problems at all, on both sorc and runemaste, with 5-6 casts / second

Ladle = mana from potions

[boreal widget]

Convergence seems pretty low on the totem pole of 'things needing nerfed' lmfao

[sand cosmos]

So int, spell damage, crit, lightning,and maybe light pen. Why Snowblind tho? Defensive?

[full bluff]

Snowblind for blind to solve crit defense, chill for ailemnt, and the 50% more armor, and easy 4 lp

50% more armor is massive defensive boost

on top of 170% more from static shell

Skills and builds that farm 2k+ corruption always seem to get nerfed for mages. So I am expecting that with lightning blast too

They probably missed it, since it is not a popular build

Frost claw needs another nerf too

and meteor 😛

[umbral trellis]

Does Band of Deception benefit from increase elemental dot ?

[harsh abyss]

My own design, but about what you'd expect. Proc frost claw and LB, use Enchant Weapon for extra attack speed, etc. The main difference from a spellblade version is since it's a 2H weapon I'm building my defenses a bit differently. Going Sorcerer and getting some Damage Taken as Mana before Health, stacking mana for extra Mana Strike damage and guaranteed crit, things like that.

Currently debating how much mana to stack vs how much health and dodge to worry about. Considering doing Foot of the mountain + dodge to get a huge amount of endurance threshold, then using Wall of Nothing to turn that into ward decay threshold and Seed of Ekkidrsasil to also make it affect mana

[nimble rover]

yes

[blazing root]

@boreal widget mobile discord is annoying me atm: do you have a planner for your black hole nonsense you talked about above

[boreal widget]

No planner but I can just share what I'm running now on LEtools. There's plenty of room to improve it.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oX4K5Dgo

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (85) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,101, Regen: 33/s
▸ Mana: 436.6, Regen: 20.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 262%, Regen: 94/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 1 Dex / 88 Int / 1 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 121% / 131% / 78% / 135% / 147% / 96% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 420
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (207)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (890)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 127%

Used skills:

Snap Freeze / Meteor / Flame Ward / Black Hole / Teleport

[boreal widget]

One day I'll replace that left ring. I've done two full-prophecies-loaded-up for rings and still nothing

But hey I got like multiple 3LP sentinel rings and a 4LP bow ring

[cosmic dove]

If Disintegrate has Electrify and Infernal Ray does it have both the fire and lightning tags?

[blazing root]

I feel that

[blazing root]

Thanks; do you use snap freeze a lot? One of the skills I basically never use on any mage lmao

[celest rain]

Yes. If you pick only one of them all damage is converted to that type.

[cosmic dove]

The tools planner isnt giving it the fire tag if you take both

[celest rain]

If you pick both or neither then it continues to have both Fire and Light components.

[cosmic dove]

meaning if I take both and then equip an item that is + fire skills, disintegrate doesnt benefit

not sure if tools planner is correct ofc

[celest rain]

Mmm couda sworn when I tried it last night it kept both, but maybe I am wrong.

[cosmic dove]

the wording on them is weird

[celest rain]

I'd you pick both it can't lose both tags

[cosmic dove]

that sorta suggest it would keep the lightning tag if you have Electrify
but this doesnt have the same wording

it doesnt mention Infernal Ray

I'm confused LOL

[celest rain]

Maybe Electrify trumps it.

[cosmic dove]

sadge. I was trying to see if I could use Spine for +6 to disintegrate but still take the zero mana cost + mana stacking for the damage multi

[harsh abyss]

If you take both one will probably overwrite the other. Alternatively, they will both convert the other half of the damage and you'll end up in the same way as you started 😝

[celest rain]

I'm not running either of those nodes so I can keep both kinds of damage.

[harsh abyss]

It would be funny if it lost both scaling tags though

[celest rain]

That way if something has high fire resistance I've got lightning for backup and vice versa.

[cosmic dove]

that is an option but I was hoping to use the free mana cost / damage with mana stuff that is locked behind Electrify

[celest rain]

If you're going to go down that route you might as well commit to lightning damage and use static orb for Aegis.

Because it all synergizes.

I'm keeping the mana cost and just having a ton of mana regen and ward per mana to tank.

[cosmic dove]

Im a noob...is there a weapon (or weapon + offhand) that would boost DoT lightning skills like Spine does?

using spine just for the +3 DoT skills seems like it would be a bad idea

[manic drift]

Going to level a mage today, shatterstrike or brand of deception more fun?

[boreal widget]

Are there any good items defensively for a lightning build?

Like snowblind is for cold builds

[half pollen]

Static shell, the chest with 170% more armor

[boreal widget]

Better than null portent/wal of nothing yea?

[half pollen]

Depends on your build, I mostly mentioned it since it has lightning synergie

[harsh abyss]

Static shell has a decent amount more damage as well as more defense, too. So if you don't need the full defensive benefits of wall of nothing or can't use the type of benefits its gives (like if you aren't stacking endurance threshold), it can be better

[boreal widget]

Thanks, any other item tips? I know weapon/helm are stuck for the int->spellpower scaling, but wondering if there's any notable belt/ring/gloves too

[cobalt matrix]

So flame rush still bugged?

[molten cobalt]

channeling is still bugged yes

[cobalt matrix]

Might as well reroll. Such a pain

[hybrid schooner]

yu did they nerf the red ring imprint. need a couple fresh ones and they dont drop anymore. they use to drop all the time

[harsh abyss]

I doubt it, probably just had a lucky streak vs an unlucky streak. Even with imprints they're supposed to be pretty rare

[tacit glacier]

Some days the rings rain down on me, other days there is drought.

[hybrid schooner]

like id be clearing an echo, get 2 rings, leave the echo get 2 more rings that happened twice in like 20 mins

[blazing root]

I mean without knowing the drop rate and doing 10,000 tests it is just rng whims

1/600 doesn't mean you get one after 600, after all, and the rate might well be lower

[hybrid schooner]

anyways. im piecing together a shatter strike build, just speeding through and hoovering up shit with the tpose setup. shatter gear is definitely more challenging to obtain. a lot of the items are boss specific, and exceedingly rare to have more than 1 LP. so COF is not helpful for this

starting to remember why i had such a rough time gearing this last year

[smoky barn]

You know... the mage is such a fantastic character! Him and his famous, yet unforgettable catchphrase : ||"I cannot do that!"||

[boreal widget]

"Fools, FOOLS!"

Also:

[smoky barn]

Hmm... tempting.

[rugged bronze]

nah i wanna hear i cant do that yet

over and over

[smoky barn]

The real LE experience

[vital ermine]

is there a way to play black hole WITHOUT doing ignite stuff?

been running ignite black hole for a while and am enjoying it and starting to love the spell but I think it'd be fun to play a cold build using the skill but zero clue if anyone has explored that

or where I'd even begin

[harsh abyss]

You'd probably pair it with another spell that applies frostbite (probably frost claw) and use black hole for supplementary damage. The explosions from the Collapse branch are gigantic, so they could apply frostbite to the whole screen and be decent for clear

Probably something like this:

If you get extra points go into the north Rifts branch that reduces the CD by a bunch so you can have a ton of collapses firing all the time, applying lots of frostbite in addition to the cold DoT damage that BH does

[vital ermine]

how are you applying frostbite with it exactly are there specific uniques to pay attention to or

[harsh abyss]

The Pulsar node in the top left makes a Collapse happen each second. It's a massive explosion that hits, which will apply frostbite

You can get a ton of frostbite chance and penetration from idols and gear

[vital ermine]

ohhh the collapse applies frostbite okay

[harsh abyss]

You can also go into the Runemaster tree and get this node

And then get gloves/neck/weapon with crazy amounts of armor shred, which will make insane frostbite application

[vital ermine]

oooooo okay

I might actually spend some time at some point theory crafting this

[harsh abyss]

It could definitely work. There's a decent amount of "more" damage on the BH tree that would affect Collapse (and the frostbite it applies), plus the AOE pulses from collapse are big enough to hit most of, if not the entire screen. Then if you back it up with something like Frost Claw that can be a damage boost for single target, you'd be able to cover the angles for clear and bossing

And you could even stack freeze rate multi and maybe able to freeze most things pretty regularly and utilize Snowdrift + Frostbite Shackles for some meaningful defensiveness

[blazing root]

Ward on freeze for mono survivability, too

[harsh abyss]

Yep

[boreal widget]

If running fire and get +4 blackhole on relic you can grab singularity + binary to make it much higher damage on its own. Pulsar scales very badly (unaffected by much, not damage over time) but does apply frostbite well. If going a support black hole though Id avoid anything nerfing its pull strength and instead grab the blind & cold stacking + double black hole

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, the ignite version is stronger because of the fire resistance scaling, but I think as a secondary skill, cold black hole can still fit a good spot in a build

[boreal widget]

That way you get two simultaneous pulsars going that blind enemies and build up freeze/frostbite. While combined pull mostly immobilizes everything

[harsh abyss]

Plus, pulsar looks rad

[boreal widget]

Oh yea, its just without going fire its very poor damage overall. And going fire comes at cost of 90% of its utility

[blazing root]

I was thinking of doing ignite bh but this is tempting me

[boreal widget]

If going damage over time black hole ignore ignite entirely, it sucks at stacking it

[harsh abyss]

Theorycrafting in LE is always fun 😝

[blazing root]

Gotta decide which is cooler looking hmm

[boreal widget]

I just killed aberroth with a black hole only build this morning.

[harsh abyss]

The fire version that uses the sword?

[vital ermine]

wdym ignore ignite entirely

[boreal widget]

Well black hole only + meteor for craterborn

[boreal widget]

Ye

He died pretty quick. One sec actually

[harsh abyss]

I wonder, does Pulsar get converted to fire if you convert BH?

I feel like it's supposed to

[boreal widget]

#🧙┃mage message

This is me killing t4 julra with it

[harsh abyss]

Not bad at all

[vital ermine]

god damn that was some damage

[boreal widget]

Yea, fire black hole has 36x damage in its own tree if you stack the various % bonuses. Theyre all miltiplicative

#🧙┃mage message

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, the fire branch is super strong for that, it's what you miss out on by going cold

BUT cold is probably easier to gear for because you don't need as many +levels

[boreal widget]

Going cold is all in on the support side. Id grab double black hole + pulsar + blind/duration + pull strength/area if I could

Maybe even recast on self if possible

Yoink entire screen to one spot and freeze

[harsh abyss]

Well you want the blind anyway because it leads to the node that leads to the cooldown reduction node

That 120% ICRS is big for having good black hole uptime

[boreal widget]

Ehhh, if going cold Id skip that. Its nice but losing the pull sucks.

If you just want frostbite stacking Im pretty sure theres a ton of better abilities for it :/

[harsh abyss]

Well that's what I mean about using it + collapse to clear screens instead of be single target

Yeah for single target you'd use frost claw or cold converted LB

But you can do both

[boreal widget]

Collapse doesnt do much sadly. Its base damage is like 100?

Evem with all my boosts mine hits for 10k a pulse

[harsh abyss]

You'd use it for the frostbite application mostly.

Double BH + collapse should be decent frostbite application to the whole screen

And any damage that actual BH does would be a bonus

When each collapse is applying 10+ stacks of frostbite, it should clear out smaller enemies pretty easily

[boreal widget]

Maybe! Have to see it in action. I still dont think giving up pull is worth it. Double black hole pull stacks and starts sliding bosses

[harsh abyss]

hmmmmmMMmm. I wonder if cold convert mana strike + LB with Battlemage's Endeavor would work with that build concept. Get big shred on it, apply LBs that apply a ton of frostbite, but also trigger frost claws and stuff

The spell damage on BE isn't great, but with good attack speed and FC + LB triggering, could apply tons of FB while maintaining mana

[boreal widget]

Glacier vortexes would scale off same stats and black holes would gather stuff into them

[harsh abyss]

true

Glacier vortex would probably be another good option

IDK if AOE damage is going to be a big problem though, I feel like single target is where BH doesn't cover very well, and Frost Claw is a really good way to deal with that.

[boreal widget]

Also on earlier question pulsar is buggy

[harsh abyss]

Like, just the collapse frostbite will be enough to wipe screens, is it worth worrying about pulling things in?

Feels like a "See how it plays" sort of situation

[boreal widget]

From what I can tell fire conversion makes it fire. Binary makes it both, singularity makes black hole fire

But pulsar will flicker into a binary for the animation for cold only, then flicker back to fire

Its very weird looking

[harsh abyss]

that does seem odd

TBH I think it's mostly a "see how it plays" situation. How it feels to do will determine the better way to build BH

[boreal widget]

#🧙┃mage message

Its also visually inpairing

[harsh abyss]

lol

[boreal widget]

Honestly have no idea how it works. But will test when back at PC since to do so I just unequip my +12 points and move em around

[harsh abyss]

Okay, I don't think it's so bad if you don't do double BH AND fire conversion and binary system

I have a feeling the graphics for fire are just getting added on top of the ones for cold and it makes everything way worse

[boreal widget]

Hrm, pulsar doesn't seem to add frostbite on its own.

So I'd have to just find generic sources to add to it

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, it doesn't have default application, but you can easily get it on the mage skill trees, idols, and chest/helm affixes

Especially if you go into the runemaster tree for the node I posted the screenshot of

[cosmic dove]

would this work too?

[harsh abyss]

Yep, any cold skill

It's kind of low value because 5% chance per point is meh, but it's an easy way to get a bit

[cosmic dove]

I didn't know if Collapse was a skill, since it is not something that has its own tree

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, it's a triggered skill

The 2x2 idols can roll up to 50%+ frostbite chance for cold skills

And T7 chest can get over 200% chance for cold skills too

[cosmic dove]

how is glacier's ST? could it be used instead of claw?

[harsh abyss]

It's definitely an option, but for frostbite FC is generally superior because it hits more times

You can spec it so that it hit 5-25 times on larger enemies

BUT, glacier does create vortexes, which are another type of cold damage over time

[cosmic dove]

do vortexes apply frostbite?

[harsh abyss]

No, they don't hit

But they're cold damage over time, so they'll scale with the same sort of stats that frostbite does

[cosmic dove]

yeah, just thinking of options

[unique notch]

I'm playing Mage Shatter. Capping out at 325c and cant get ab down. Is this normal? I see people farming 600c+

no idea what im missing

kinda at the point of being done.

[cosmic dove]

sorry, learning the details of LE TC. no area tag means that collapse can't increase with area of effect passives/etc right?

[unique notch]

i dont see a path forward

other then farming out a red ring and I really dont feel like doing that on mg.

[cinder kraken]

I was having that exact same issue

Swapped to a strength tank autobomber mage

At 500c now but can definitely go lot higher

[unique notch]

crazy

okay, didnt know if I just sucked at the game or what was going on

[cinder kraken]

I was thinking the same

Like I was a glass cannon that would just get 1 tapped

[unique notch]

if I switch, im going void knight meta. Dont want to invest in something else with a pretty decked out character

100% what I'm getting

[cinder kraken]

Ya I feel that. I'll probs do that next

[unique notch]

I have to dodge everything perfectly

[cinder kraken]

Just trying to stay away from the meta so the game is actually difficult

[unique notch]

yeah but this is a brick wall with no path forward

😄

[cinder kraken]

Ya shatterstrike is a leveling build

Not good for endgame really

[harsh abyss]

Maybe not? I'm not sure why it has the void tag. But the AOE for it is stupid massive anyway so you don't really need to scale

[prime whale]

hmm thats pretty decent

[molten cobalt]

it is yes

mine didnt have enough FP to reroll implicit

[prime whale]

I found it on the ground

then a couple of havocs

and some luck

[molten cobalt]

👍

[prime whale]

eternal gauntlets with this experimental mod and any T7

is good to add to the filter

is it possible to reroll intel to STR on a mage relic since it cannot have str by default ?

[proud swift]

I have been told that for hard-core the minimum ehp we need to have in Ltools is 10k. Is it possible to reach 10k ehp on RuneMaster without taking unreasonable amount of defence by sacrificing offense?

[prime whale]

physical EHP ?

[proud swift]

Idk

That's my build.

[left hill]

possible, definitely. possible without godly gear with implausible drop odds, I'll let others answer.

but if you assume ridiculously good drops, you can get like 100K eHP without sacrificing offense.

except DOT eHP... eff DOTs lol

[proud swift]

Thanks. Is my ehp fine with that gear though? I'll consider unique later.

I remove dots by going through frost wall.

[molten cobalt]

sure

[prime whale]

nice thanks

[scenic sail]

It's sad that "strength" is literally what mages have to use to be good this season. I didn't reach level 100 with mage but it felt terrible this season compared to the past two seasons. They nerfed sorcerer way too much, it's almost un-usable now

[harsh abyss]

I do think Lost Knowledge has been nerfed to the point of uselessness

5 ward per 30 current mana? At LEAST make it max mana at that point, yeesh

[nimble rover]

Ye they sadly dont know how to nerf properly. They basically also killed storm totem this season as example

[harsh abyss]

Isn't it still one of the top builds?

[nimble rover]

No

You can play it as sprigan but its giga garbage compared to big thunder totem of the past

[cunning lynx]

trying out a spark charge rm by proccing lb via using frost claw with dragorath's claw and i run out of mana after like 5 seconds. Any ideas on how i can sustain mana?

[scenic sail]

Yea, I just de-specced Lost Knowledge and I couldn't even tell

[left hill]

Mana stacking + Cooldown Recovery + Focus Null Profusion/Infusion is one way

[scenic sail]

I've been using Glacier in previous seasons but with the nerf, it doesn't feel like it really helps mana very much, currently I have fireball + the Tier 7 fireball helmet affix and that also isn't great for mana sustain. Mana from potion use affix gives you lots of mana regen so you could try just lots of mana regen + mana from potion use, but honestly I wouldn't try too hard, the mage class is just so weak right now.

[cold bobcat]

Is the shattering strike planner missing 3 passives point or what ? this adds up to 110, but you can get 113 or is there something using up points ?

nevermind

[spare glen]

can you elaborate on what exactly they ""nerfed"" on sorc? what did u even play that its unusable

the only thing that was nerfed is static orb bs, which is a fair nerf, every other aspect was only buffed with new idols and ward affixes, despite int nerf

[boreal widget]

Its so pretty I don't want to ruin it in a bad slam

[molten cobalt]

do eeet

[boreal widget]

I gotta figure out what I need first, saving it for the lightning meteor build and don't know what that build is gonna look like yet till I got its parts together.

[steel oasis]

everytime i portal anywhere i need to put more points in volcanic orb its so annoying

im not touching my equipment

so annoying

[boreal widget]

Recent issue or been happening for awhile?

My initial fix is take off all gear, close game entirely, reopen game, put on all gear again, assign points.

[molten cobalt]

finally

[left hill]

some examples:

• Spark Charges on non-Static Orb skills
• Frost Claw lost ability to cleanse ailments, had ward generation nodes reduced, and mana cost on two of its nodes increased
• Int/ward retention changes (the idols absolutely do not make up the difference, although they help soften the blow, although I think this change is fair anyway, but listing for the sake of answering the Q)
• Lost Knowledge got halved in its effect
• Proc'd Meteors with multiple meteor spec'ing got shut down via all the "direct cast" restrictions

[molten cobalt]

after so many attempts

[spare glen]

nothing out of that makes class unplayble though, frost claw still op and spark charges was never the best way to play it in the first play since ailmet version had at least 2.5 more dps than charges. U still get plenty of ward on all builds. meteor belt nerf sucks

glacier is still insanely strong and unkillable, the only issue it doesnt have dps for uber

[left hill]

not looking to debate. you asked what was nerfed and I was just adding some examples

[coral thunder]

thats insane

[solemn viper]

Try to look a build up, right now shatterstrike is the strongest mage build so maybe you just need to farm better gear

[boreal widget]

This hurts to have drop for me when I can't use a staff with my build

[sinful coyote]

hydra RI use staffs sooo

[shrewd latch]

messing around levelling a frost-sorc mage, is the glacier teleport a terrible idea or can it work?

[scenic sail]

when you're leveling anything can work, and it's easy to just re-spec if it's not working for you. I used the new helmet Dominance of the Tundra (once you hit level 60) and it was awesome for leveling. It's a drop from the weaver echo Antipode Rift, I highly recommend it. The +400 flat armor is especially good early on

[bright patio]

It can definitely work but it eats mana for breakfast - it’s very defensive and effective for general mapping if you’re not confident w defences

I tried making it work but personally mana got annoying but it could be rly good if you really invest into it

But yeah as previously stated above, you will hit a wall where your options get limited

[boreal widget]

hydra RI?

[shrewd latch]

thanks

[kindred oxide]

how to increase our critstrike chance? like i've equiped most stat with critstrike chance increase , but it still counted 0

[sinful coyote]

hydrahedron

or LFF invocation if you didn't play with it b4

basically mage style ballista

squishy but giga dmg (compare to mages ofc)

[scarlet tinsel]

Ucenui's Sphere worth it when not equal stats?

[sinful coyote]

120% inc when not equal, +40% from base so 160% inc

[junior coral]

Does monolith corruption level impact the Egg chance of being LP

[hybrid schooner]

brother... 7 havocs and shock on hit did not change 1 time.... its not purely rng dude theres some shennanigans going on that is not obvious

[sinful coyote]

i personally don't think it's worth it since 160% increased dmg is roughly 1 T7 ligthing/spell dmg+ 1 T4 spell dmg, unless you get 3/4LP sphere

[sinful coyote]

iirc LP chance isn't affected by corruption, but nemesis spawn rate and chance it upgrade rare to exalteds are affected by corruption

[junior coral]

ok

[next lance]

whats the best mage build rn to push corruption?

[hybrid schooner]

lp change doesnt sscale but the drop rate of things increases. boss drops for example

[sinful coyote]

depends on using snapshotting glitch or nah

if yes then mana guide str stacking Tpose RM

nah ill say hydra or dex stacking RM

[hybrid schooner]

dex nah. its faster farm for sure but you have minimal armor, and therefore minimal ward

[next lance]

anyone got proof of someone going past 1500 corruption with mage season 2?

[hybrid schooner]

i mean i could for sure. just cruising around above 1k farming doo. i did ego pushing past season. makes farming hella slower

[next lance]

u play hydra?

[hybrid schooner]

negative

[sinful coyote]

i got 2000 with str stacking

but with snapshot glitch

so it depends on do you wanna abuse glitch or no

[next lance]

whats snapshot glitch i suppose it will get fixed right

[sinful coyote]

it basically just give you huge boost of dmg

like summon snapshotting

[next lance]

i would abuse it as long as i can hahaha

[sinful coyote]

but pure glitch

[hybrid schooner]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A2ndGb4A

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (21) / Spellblade (14) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,630, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 311.32, Regen: 14.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 453%, Regen: 209/s
▸ Attributes: 159 Str / 39 Dex / 159 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 79% / 79% / 115% / 103% / 76% / 78% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 326
▸ Dodge Chance: 15% (492)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 66% (5,524)
▸ Block Chance: 173%, Mitigation: 46% (1,733)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 120%

Used skills:

Focus / Flame Ward / Flame Rush / Runic Invocation / Frost Wall

[hybrid schooner]

ya without the snappshot you do about 1/4 the damage

[sinful coyote]

prob get fixed by next season

[next lance]

thats your non glitch legit build?

[junior coral]

Can someone confirm or deny if uniques/legendary work in the upper top left weaver slot?

ive heard people say both

[hybrid schooner]

gltich has nothing to do with the setup there

[junior coral]

sides

[next lance]

is there a guide for that?

[sinful coyote]

just place forstwall -> pass it with flame rush when it's about to end-> don't pass frostwall again/self cast RI/change between zones(echos doesn't count)

bang you get perma frostwall buff for RI

[hybrid schooner]

@junior corallogically it wouldnt make sense if they did right. but u never know

[next lance]

lmao can u link your char?

[sinful coyote]

combine it with item swapping for forstwall duration on helm/chest

im playing with other builds rn

[hybrid schooner]

charactor build has nothing do to with the frsotwall snappshot

[sinful coyote]

playing mirror bolt at 1500c, but mirror bolt is shit on clearing

[hybrid schooner]

put gear on the make frostwall as long as possible
cast frost wall
flame rush through wll right before it ends

do not hard cast invocation at all.. do not go through another frost wall

put normal gear back on instead of frostwall duration

[sinful coyote]

with double T7 froswall duration snapshotting you are getting perma 450%-480% dmg boost on RI

[next lance]

whats RI

xd

im pretty new sry

[sinful coyote]

runic invocation

[hybrid schooner]

the build is the same with or without the frostwall stuff

[next lance]

but what is your dps spell on here

[hybrid schooner]

brand of deception. applied just my flame rush

by

its a single stack damage over time. last 4 seconds. its huge

[sinful coyote]

flame rush proc runic invocation, str stacking use FLF > plasma orb for clearing, and LCL/CCL for bossing, they apply brands

[next lance]

is that better than frostclaw nova build?

[sinful coyote]

brands will take all dmg bonus/modifiers from the skill applies it

[next lance]

with lightning single target

[hybrid schooner]

frostclaw is kinda dead

[next lance]

its crazy that i cant find anything on yt to mage builds season 2

thanks for showing me

the frostclaw was legit the only good guide i saw

[hybrid schooner]

i did claw last season. its a pitiful shadow of its former self

4500 corr

[next lance]

what

the guy in the vid is doing 1.1k not bad ig

[hybrid schooner]

i mean it took about 7 mins to kill orobys at that corr but ya

i was built for perma freeze on boss. so i would literally stand in front of orobys and toggle on an autoclicker basically and go make a sandwich

[next lance]

why do u have strength on mostly everything in your build

but dex on your relic

and why dont u use uniques for gloves and belt?

[hybrid schooner]

oo the dex is just for orb scaling while farming echos, dissregard the dex, pretend its str

jsut gives a little more horsepower for the clearing setup. hard to explain

well theres no belt in the game that offers any advantage for this build unless its 3lp+ and tthe belts are gigga rare. and the BIS gloves come from uber abberoth. so ya

im cof so i cant just buy them

[solemn viper]

Didn’t they nerf perma freeze last season?

[hybrid schooner]

they did

[next lance]

oh im merchant which items are those u recommend?

[hybrid schooner]

the belt there really arent any options for unique

gloves you want the uber abberoth ones. idk what they called

[next lance]

ok ty

[solemn viper]

So how did you do it? lol

[blazing root]

There were people discussing frostbite bh in here earlier, did any testing come from that

[solemn viper]

Just an insane amount if freeze?

[hybrid schooner]

i must have been freeze pre s1 then. i played when game released

[blazing root]

Curios if any numbers for frostbite vs fire exist yet

[solemn viper]

Oh yeah probably, 1.0 you could perms freeze stuff but they changed it in 1.1

[floral pier]

Anyone got a functioning ele nova build? I played around with it on my sorc, +10 helmet, unstable core, pretty sweet gear in other slots stacking crit and resistance for the penetration, just hits like a feather pillow. I imagined it would be a lot better, using teleport to dash through packs and blast them, then rapid casting on bosses/tanky rares but yeah, in basic monos it's junk, haven't even tried empowered

Inflicts a ton of ailments on hit, idk if dot is the way to go with it maybe

[hybrid schooner]

@hybrid schooneryup. basically voids frostbite claw build. then throw on the intel nerf and ward decay...

yuhh did i just @ myself. chad

[blazing root]

Slick

[hybrid schooner]

@sinful coyote

[sinful coyote]

this helm is unethical ngl

[hybrid schooner]

the focus ranks was on there. but its actually pretty great. i put it on 2 pts for another 14% ele dr

idk how that helm survived the craft with an occupied sealed affix already

[fickle smelt]

jesus

[boreal widget]

That feel when you see this and not a single one meets your filter :(

[lost siren]

sooooo whatg's the state of runemaster currently? Considering leveling one

[sinful coyote]

depends on how you treat glitchs

runemaster has a glitch to do 5x dmg but it's pure glitch

with glitch we are about VK level

[woven yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf3yjzlS3Ls
ubberoth on sorc

[hybrid schooner]

oyy its bigdaddy

suhh doo

@woven yarrowthis your first kill with any build?

brother why....

[spare vessel]

congrats! what corruption u were before u beat him?

[hybrid schooner]

Lord Raiden build

[sinful coyote]

https://youtu.be/b4cHPDgY5ek mirror bolt feels better than hydra ngl

[hybrid schooner]

dude your ward gen is sick

[sinful coyote]

mirror bolt it is

[molten cobalt]

rip

[hybrid schooner]

whats your clear like with mirror bolt

[sinful coyote]

trash

playable but trash

compare to plasma orbs etc

[hybrid schooner]

@molten cobaltits still about a 9% overall damage upgrade swapping the pen out for the dot damage after testing

[sinful coyote]

okayish if you hunt for rare/champion

[molten cobalt]

im still rocking t7-t5 cleaver so pen is better for me

but cleaver might be next project now that im done with shoes and shield

next double 7 project

dont even have any double 7 axes though

[hybrid schooner]

@hybrid schoonerupdate on that cleanse affix btw. super effective. i have not been plagued by dots literally at all since. i have potion set to auto consume when i pick them up and capped

[molten cobalt]

how do you automate that?

[hybrid schooner]

gameplay setting toggle

is probably checked by default i think

[molten cobalt]

aye its auto on

but i cant say it works all that well

because without leech my life is constantly going down

due to twisted heart

never noticed that it auto drinks potions

[sinful coyote]

@hybrid schooner if you curious about echo clearing speed of mirror bolt
https://youtu.be/h2XvM5Z__Ao

[hybrid schooner]

word ty

[molten cobalt]

good kill speed, but not great clear speed

since you lack the aoe clearing

[hybrid schooner]

yo, the "damage while channeling" affix on relic. is this an overall multi, and would it be effective for the topse build

[molten cobalt]

no idea

but should be additive damage

[hybrid schooner]

cause i guess most of the brand applications would be done while channeling, its such a small number for an affix i would assume that its a multi

[sinful coyote]

yea mirror bolt is limited to 6 damage instance per cast

so maximum 12 kills per 2sec

[molten cobalt]

its a small number because its flat spell dmg no?

[hybrid schooner]

it just says damage while channeling. ill find one in my bag sec

[molten cobalt]

ok, i was looking at helmet

that one is flat spell dmg

[sinful coyote]

flat spell dmg/single element dmg is highest iirc?

[molten cobalt]

@hybrid schooner increased

so, additive

[hybrid schooner]

why would it be such a small number relatively, but such a niche affix

[molten cobalt]

🤷‍♂️

[hybrid schooner]

thats why i thought it may be a useful multi

[molten cobalt]

not sure it would work either anyway

[hybrid schooner]

right, idk

[molten cobalt]

because im assuming the damage is calculated and snapshot when brand lands

and when brand lands is when flame rush ends

at that tiny moment we are not channeling

[woven yarrow]

Corruption doesn't affect him but I'm at 1.1k and probably can go 2k easily on this

[blazing root]

I just watched; holy crap your cast speed is funny lmao

[woven yarrow]

It's actually a bit slow I think. Can get to 300+ if u wanted

XD

[blazing root]

do you have a planner?

[obsidian agate]

does the frostwall buff snapshot forever

or is it whenever u leave/exit monolith like minion snapshotting

[hybrid schooner]

as long as you dont leave the general mono area

like if you went to the market it would come off

but u good between echoes and changing waypoints in the monos

[obsidian agate]

so like minion, kk

[woven yarrow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ba41aXYQ thats what i used on ubberoth. probably swap fw to static orb for mono clears tho

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (56) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (32)

General:

▸ Health: 1,638, Regen: 22.8/s
▸ Mana: 304.51, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 376%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 23 Dex / 194 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 58% / 59% / 62% / 79% / 69% / 30%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 328
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (92)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,880)

Used skills:

Meteor / Teleport / Frost Wall / Flame Ward / Lightning Blast

[hybrid schooner]

imprinted 77 relic to slam my lp2. but nearly every relic that drops is off class

the actual f

ahhh cuase the relic i have slotted is not mage specific. gg

[molten cobalt]

😂

[hybrid schooner]

nothing to see here

[molten cobalt]

someone is hunting red rings

[hybrid schooner]

ya they hard nerfed imprints, or at least red ring imprints

ninja devs

[molten cobalt]

doubt it

[hybrid schooner]

ya i think they did. because there was a bug for double drops and people were getting 4 lm RR by putting a 4 affix weaver ring in there

every time a RR would drop for me before it was ALWAYS 2 at a time. and what are the odds of that

[harsh abyss]

I mean that sounds like a bug, not a nerf

[hybrid schooner]

im saying at the same time its quite possible they nerfed it in general and fixed the bug

[molten cobalt]

wait people got 4lp red rings if they imprinted a shitty weaver ring?

for real?

[hybrid schooner]

ya

[molten cobalt]

thats insane

why didnt i know this hehe

[reef creek]

Hi. Is this a viable build to start on Empowered Monos as Sorc? Freshly doing 100s and wondering if there is any other build to orbitate towards (CoF so not easy access to uniques yet).

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/allies-mana-stacking-meteor-sorcerer

[silk pewter]

Allie's Mana Stacking Meteor Sorcerer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class

Mage / Sorcerer

Used skills

• Meteor
• Focus
• Flame Ward
• Teleport
• Arcane Ascendance

Used unique items

• Strands of Souls
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
• Frostbite Shackles
• Throne of Ambition

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Season Starter / Beginner / SSF / Ranged

Created by Allie · Jul 7, 2024, 3:11 PM

[hybrid schooner]

@reef creekwish i knew enough to help there

cold meteor or something? whats up with frostbite shackle gloves

[reef creek]

It's regular meteor stacking build i think. I quess these are cheap alternative for ward retention, i am running experimental health -> ward. Just wondering what can i run with sorc at 100s as most of the builds are LP2+ already 🥲

[hybrid schooner]

ahh i see. welp, i can only talk about what i know and its not meteor. but the only value those gloves give is the ward retention which you could nearly achieve with a t7 intel affix if youre already stacking intel

[sinful coyote]

grab lightning meteor set if you wanna invest on meteors, 80% more on lightning meteor makes it viable compare to regular fire meteors

[nimble rover]

well telfun boots/never late node works for invocations. so this affix also should

[reef creek]

That's interesting idea, this set, right? https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/black-hole-armageddon-lightning-conversion-sorcerer

[silk pewter]

Black Hole Armageddon Lightning Conversion Sorcerer Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Beta / 0.9.2f

Class

Mage / Sorcerer

Used skills

• Black Hole
• Meteor
• Lightning Blast
• Frost Wall
• Flame Ward

Used unique items

• Vilatria's Storm Crown
• Vilatria's Downfall
• The Invoker's Static Touch

Tags

Ranged

Created by EMP1241 · Oct 10, 2023, 12:30 AM

[spark belfry]

hello for this class have any build can uber and farm 2k corruption ?

[molten cobalt]

not the same build

[upbeat temple]

Dear Shatter Strike enjoyers, any tipps on my build? Things that instantly make you go: Thats an easy upgrade! Would really appreciate it
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/sanguinguerra/character/SanguinG

[molten cobalt]

the build that could do both of that got kinda fked over due to EHG screwing up channeling

making uberroth a pure pain

[nimble rover]

hydrahedron can do both

[celest rain]

Channeling a DoT skill can't apply On Hit affects still, right?

I know they fixed the mana regen, not sure if they ever changed how On Hit applies.

[nimble rover]

ye if skill is a not hit it will not apply on hit effects. you can easily check what is hit and what is not hit on letools

[molten cobalt]

we can

dot itself isnt a hit

but you got other stuff happening that count as hits

[solemn viper]

It’s honestly good, you need attack speed on both scissors and to replace ring gloves and amulet

[celest rain]

Uh, what do you mean other stuff? You mean other skills, yes?

The channel skill itself can't apply it tho?

[molten cobalt]

flame rush will

and some other things

you got the uhhh whats the name

[nimble rover]

not every build is using flame rush

[molten cobalt]

lightning aura circle shit

[nimble rover]

not every mage player playing focus rm

[solemn viper]

Your skills and passives could use some attention tho, check snap on YouTube or the guy that killed uberroth

[molten cobalt]

i assumed he was playing brand of deception

maybe he is not

[celest rain]

I am not 😛

Just wanted to know about Channel skills specifically

Cause I know they fixed the Mana Regen thing in the past

Wasn't sure about On Hit

But it sounds like they still don't apply On Hit

[nimble rover]

channeling dot is disintegrate build or something

[celest rain]

Correct

Also is it possible to get like... +10 to a skill? lol

The highest I've seen is +7 or +8

Fiending for points for Disintegrate

[nimble rover]

im pretty sure disintegrate is super viable we just dont know how to make it strong. last season there was a guy who did very well on arena with it

[celest rain]

Oh it definitely is

just gotta get enough mana regen

I've been messing around with it and you can make yourself damn near invincible while channeling

[nimble rover]

like look at this setup

[celest rain]

And I don't know if it's a recent addition to the game or not, but Elemental DoT damage affixes give you MASSIVE multipliers

800% more damage on a single weapon affix is crazy and easy to attain

That's more than some entire builds get

[celest rain]

Ye similar to what I'm trying: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bj4EybxA

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (93)

General:

▸ Health: 2,086, Regen: 43.66/s
▸ Mana: 949.25, Regen: 25.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 306%, Regen: 312/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 16 Dex / 116 Int / 16 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 156% / 57% / 81% / 103% / 77% / 63% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 664
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,041)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Arcane Ascendance / Focus / Black Hole

[celest rain]

I thought I was the only one using Blackhole, but I guess not.

[nimble rover]

well when this guy used bh it was total garbage

[celest rain]

I mean I just use it for CC

and Blind

[nimble rover]

he said there is some broken unlimited scaling in this setup

no one did it again

[celest rain]

Oh there is

You can get Lightning or Fire DoT damage up to like 2000-3000%

[boreal widget]

Trying to make BH/Disintigrate work? Its alright

[harsh abyss]

Remember, Increased Ele Dot affixes are additive with other increases, like from stats and such.

[boreal widget]

Downside is you can't really keep interrupting your disintigrate to toss out black holes, and without spine black hole damage is dirt, and without ingvar's head disintigrate damage is dirt.

[lost siren]

Not glitching. Don’t like it 😊

[boreal widget]

I killed aberroth with just black hole the other day (regular) and starting to push corruption with it while farming lightning meteor build. Its best to just go all in on one or the other with supporting skills imo

[celest rain]

Like I said, Black Hole ain't for dmg for me, it's just CC

All my damage is loaded into Disintegrate

Black Hole is mobbing/CC

[boreal widget]

So long you got ingvar's head and good crit chance should be alright then yea? Well, this season doesn't play well with stuff you can't move with I feel but its decent damage I bet

[celest rain]

Ain't running Ingvar

Trying to avoid crit entirely

[boreal widget]

Any reason why? Its pretty much only way to make disintigrate do more than tickle iirc

because the crit chance conversion is multiplicative, not additive

[celest rain]

Because you have to spend a lot of passive and skill points and item enchant slots for that crit

And it doesn't feel like it gains you more to me than just raw pumping it all into Ele Dot Dmg

[boreal widget]

I mean, even with just like 100% crit chance you're already doubling your damage entirely

And if you have 300% dot damage, 100% crit chance, you'll have 600% total bonus damage

[celest rain]

Yes, correct

And one singular T7 Ele Dot Buff on your weapon is more than that.

[boreal widget]

If you had ele dot damage and crit chance on weapon you'd have a like 1800% multiplier

Which is more than ele dot damage alone on every slot combined

[spare vessel]

I tried this talent and im very confused, i dont see either a blink or a cooldown as mentioned

what does "directly cast" an invocation mean? Am i doing it wrong?

[celest rain]

There's only so many slots, people ain't running around with LP4s on every slot ;P

I sure as hell ain't that rich

[boreal widget]

Thats just 2LP though which isn't unreasonable

[celest rain]

But Ele Dot as a single affix will net more damage additively than Crit or Multi by itself.

The second LP slot is reserved for Mana and Mana Regen.

Which is... very mandatory.

[boreal widget]

So put crit chance on ingvar's head :P, 117% crit chance on ingvars is a 2x multiplier to ele dot damage on every other piece of gear you have

[celest rain]

The bigger problem with Ingvar's head is that Aergon provides a lot of tank

And I've found that tankitude is more important than the damage Ingvar is gonna give me

At least so far. We'll see as the build progresses if that changes.

[devout pecan]

Hey there, I'm homebrewing a mage using spark charges with Lightning Blast/static orbs and the spark charge off-hand.
Would you go Sorcerer or Runemaster? Sorcerer got the static orb spark charge node, but runemaster tree seem stronger overall

And I love Enigma as a movement skill, with Sorcerer I'd have to use teleport, which is meh

[celest rain]

You can turn several skills into traversal skills as Sorc or dip a few passives into Runemaster for Flame Rush.

[devout pecan]

So you'd go sorcerer?

[boreal widget]

If I wasn't already trying two builds I'd try ingvar's head + wrongwarp disintigrate build for the hell of it. Looks fun

[celest rain]

Uh, depends on more than the info you've provided.

What you've said alone isn't necessarily enough to determine the class you need for that.

[open vapor]

I'm making the same consideration myself. So far I'm testing out going sorcerer mainly due to this node:
With 200 int that's 1k endurance threshhold

[devout pecan]

Basically I'm going to use Spark Charges, max INT and lightning dmg, Static Orb and Lightning Blast spam.

Rest is flex

[boreal widget]

Out of curosity, fire, mixed, or lightning desintigrate?

[celest rain]

Mixed

Though predominantly fire

[devout pecan]

Could see this build work with Runemaster or Sorcerer, with sorcerer doing more damage but runemaster being WAY more tanky thanks to endurence thr node

[boreal widget]

Curious how viable trying to weave in meteors for mana and craterborn is.

[celest rain]

Honestly it's possible I should just fully convert my Disintegrate to Fire and convert Black Holes to Fire.

We'll see when I get this this fully geared out

[boreal widget]

fire black holes lose all CC :(

[celest rain]

Yeah... BH would become for dmg at that point

But also tank

It gives lots of Ward stacks

It would also cause Ignite

I don't think it would be worth it tbh

But could be

[boreal widget]

Definitely look into meteor if you haven't. Craterborn gives 75% fire pen, and comboed with free spell cast, super mana cost, and spell refund on meteor you can toss one out at 100% cast speed and get a ton of mana back while getting 75% fire pen

[open vapor]

What would make the runemaster tankier?

[harsh abyss]

Someone was talking about cold BH yesterday and my brain has been kind of on fire for a cold bh + cold LB frostbite build

[boreal widget]

Imo I want to like it but I feel like you'd stack up faster on a channeled lightning blast build or something. Waaaaay faster lol

[devout pecan]

Cerulean Runestone node. 30% mana as end thr.
And unless I'm missing something, Sorcerer got 0 defensive node

[harsh abyss]

Channeled LB has reduced ailment application, so definitely not

[devout pecan]

Which worries me

[celest rain]

Uh,,, yeah that could be a thing, I mean at some point if I realize that CC isn't necessary because the build is tanky enough I may convert BH to Fire or just swap it for Meteor, ye.

Using Meteor just for Craterborn when it's going to do no damage and BH will do damage seems kinda meh though

[boreal widget]

its also for a lot of mana. You combined these

[open vapor]

Sorcerer got this one giving 1k ward decay threshhold @devout pecan .
I suspect you're not stacking mana and if you got 200 mana it would only be 60 endurance threshhold from the runemaster node

[celest rain]

Okay but that's a completely different build now lol

That's swapping Focus out for Teleport as well

[boreal widget]

Wait you're channeling focus and disintigrate at same time? o.O

[devout pecan]

Fair point. Hmmm how would you go for defensive stuff? Stack ward, what else? Dodge? I like having multiple layer of def

[celest rain]

No, you can't channel them at the same time.

[harsh abyss]

Dodge works really well with ward, I've found. My channeled LB has ~65% dodge chance and it feels SUPER tanky because of it

[boreal widget]

Oh weaving them together. The meteor method might net you same (or more) mana without having to stop and channel atop of other teleports other benefits (Extra stats and such)

[devout pecan]

You can only stack dodge with items with mage right? No dodge passive anywhere

[harsh abyss]

Technically you can get a little from dex, but yeah

For channeled builds, Telfun's Mirage gives an awesome amount of dodge. Hella underrated boots

[devout pecan]

Alright. I think I'll try that, the damage potential with Sorc seem big.

[celest rain]

Oh Meteor has a skill node to Guarantee Crit when above 400 mana...

So you could use it wihtout building any crit chance.

Hm... interesting.

[open vapor]

Not sure, one way would be going low life and sitting on like 7k ward without doing anything

Found this build clearing uberroth earlier today:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oPNdZqWQ

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (56) / Spellblade (5) / Runemaster (32)

General:

▸ Health: 1,638, Regen: 22.8/s
▸ Mana: 304.51, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 376%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 23 Dex / 194 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 58% / 59% / 62% / 79% / 69% / 30%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 328
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (92)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,880)

Used skills:

Meteor / Teleport / Frost Wall / Flame Ward / Lightning Blast

[celest rain]

Maybe there is something to this lol

Still though, most of my damage buffs are DoT, so Meteor wouldn't gain from that

[boreal widget]

Well if using it for craterborn/mana regen it wont hit hard. But the cast speed is so fast its almost instant to throw out after every teleport.

But the 75% fire penetration is really hard to beat damage wise

Like thats a lot of fire penetration on a fire build lol

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, it's really good

[celest rain]

Doesn't resist shred and pen have like 50% reduced effectiveness against bosses?

[harsh abyss]

No

Only shred

[celest rain]

hm

[harsh abyss]

Technically shock as well

[boreal widget]

My black holes are ticking for almost a million damage thanks to absurd fire pen and stuff lol

[molten cobalt]

why is the attribute swap map so fkn ass

cant move properly

[celest rain]

I mean, like I said, I'll think about it

we'll get there when we get there 😛

It certainly warrants consideration

75% fire pen is definitely quite a lot

But getting this character to survive is my primary consideration atm

[boreal widget]

Yea, the cast speed node + teleport combo lets you turn it into a big mana battery too. Its pretty awesome.

Teleport gives 250 armor & stun immunity too which is a godsend

[celest rain]

Focus gives me Stun Immunity for free and like 600 armour because it's channeled

[boreal widget]

Aye, but only while channeling it. Teleport is just passive for 8 seconds after casting even while doing other stuff.

[celest rain]

It's a Disintegrate build, you're stun immune while Disintegrating, which ideally you are doing all the time 😛

[cosmic dove]

@harsh abyss frostbite question from yesterday
ailments gain strength based on the damage boosts of the skill that applied them
like ignites from BH benefit from damage boosts to BH
but we were talking about Collapse applying frostbite. Collapse's damage is not boosted. would that make the frostbites from it really weak?
or am I missing something?

[harsh abyss]

I don't think there's any reason collapse's damage shouldn't be boosted. It should be affected by all the "more" damage multipliers in the BH tree.

It might not get to the same damage scale as the DoT stuff from BH's core damage, because it's a 100% damage effectiveness skill vs BH's 600% damage effectiveness.

But Frostbite doesn't get things like added spell damage, so while Collapse will have lower damage hits, the inherited frostbite should still get those bonuses as well

[boreal widget]

20,000% of 15 is still a very low number

[cosmic dove]

all triggered spells are boosted then? like lightning blast from frost wall is boosted by frost wall multis?

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, but you don't care about the hit damage that collapse is doing

No, triggered skills only inherit damage boosts if they ARENT specializable skills.

[boreal widget]

Just that its 2 hits a second pulsing in a reasonably sized AoE?

[harsh abyss]

So no matter how you trigger lightning blast, it will use the lightning blast tree

[cosmic dove]

gotcha

[cosmic dove]

yeah ... it would apply more frostbites

[harsh abyss]

You mean unreasonably sized 😝 The collapse AOE is massive. The idea is to use it to apply frostbites to the whole screen for clear, instead of single target boost. Using FC or LB, you can get plenty of single target damage.

[celest rain]

Focus is a really wonderful "oh f%#$ f%#$ f%#$ I'm gonna die" button beyond just Teleport, gives you a shit load of tank and regen as well as triggering the ~600 armour from channeling and multiple ailments that reduce taken damage by 10% each. If you just need a quick Teleport, then you can tap it. The only advantage Teleport confers is a boost to elemental damage if you take that node, and potentially mana refund as well. So it does make some sense in a pure fire build with Meteor for the Penetration. If I'm using BH or whatever though, Focus makes more sense.

[cosmic dove]

continuing the newbie questions, Collapse has this:

does that mean cast speed changes the 1 per second part?

from BH

[harsh abyss]

No, triggered spells are triggered on a timer

[celest rain]

If I was to end up going meteor though, I need to redo my talents on my Disintegrate to make it pure fire and make some other changes too.

[harsh abyss]

Or however they're triggered. The scaling with cast speed would be if you somehow self-casted them, heh

It's kind of "default spell behavior"

[cosmic dove]

"somehow" 😂

appreciate the info, I'm new to TC in LE so I dont know what my levers are

[harsh abyss]

The only way to affect how often triggers happen is usually in the skill tree, like you can see in Arcane Ascendence or Frost Wall there are nodes to make LB triggers happen more frequently, stuff like that.

[celest rain]

Also having a 10 second cooldown Teleport is kinda..... not great.

[boreal widget]

I'm just thinking of it compared to say, a shrapnel meteor rain which is also a huge area, but each hit + each shrapnel would apply frostbite no?

[boreal widget]

there's 70% reduction in same tree. its 4sec for me.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, but you cast BH once and it collapses every second for the duration, vs meteor you only proc shrapnel once per cast.

[celest rain]

Ah, you right you right

[harsh abyss]

So for clearing out small enemies, it should be good for applying enough frostbite to kill them

And then you use your main single target thing for rares/champs/bosses

[boreal widget]

once per meteor per cast no? 5 meteors + strapnel of each, 10 hits

[harsh abyss]

Sure, that's definitely a way you could do it. Shrapnel's frostbite would do a lot less damage though because the meteor tree doesn't have many More modifiers, compared to BH

So each frostbite applied by collapse should theoretically have significantly more value than meteor applications

[cosmic dove]

is there anything with ailments that make it so it is better to match the applying spell to the ailment? (when the applier isnt doing damage)

[harsh abyss]

Well, ailments don't care about base damage effectiveness, so the 900% from meteor does nothing, for example. And a lot of the ailment application stuff is "ignite chance with fire skills" so you're kind of forced to use the appropriate element to apply them.

Like, meteor is going to be really bad for frostbite application, because the chest/helm affixes and the idol affixes both specify that it has to be a cold skill.

[cosmic dove]

there's no cold meteor that I know of. how would shrapnel be a good applier then?

ah ok

[boreal widget]

Oh right, the armor specifies cold spells

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, as does the armor shred conversion from the RM tree

So you'd be pretty lacking in ability to stack it up with meteor. But you could use cold converted static orb or ice barrage, or whatnot

[boreal widget]

So uh, bad news

Its not applying frostbite at all

[harsh abyss]

well that's super weird

Sounds like a bug to me

[cosmic dove]

I think I know

it was tagged void, not cold?

[harsh abyss]

lol, maybe yeah

[cosmic dove]

says cold damage, but void tag

which...I am too new to understand

what that means

[harsh abyss]

TL:DR, the affix probably looks for the "cold" tag to see if a skill should apply it

Since collapse has the void tag and not the cold tag, it won't apply

[boreal widget]

Lmao its void damage

[harsh abyss]

No, it's cold damage

But it has the void tag

[boreal widget]

Yea, just its scaling with void damage not cold.

[harsh abyss]

Seems unintended

[boreal widget]

err, no I see

Still would scale with cold, just wont trigger anything

[harsh abyss]

yeah

[cosmic dove]

is that something to put in bug reports?

or feedback?

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, you should put in a bug report in-game

That's definitely not what you'd expect it to do

[celest rain]

@boreal widget So you could do something like this: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe4gZPaA

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (93)

General:

▸ Health: 2,086, Regen: 43.66/s
▸ Mana: 949.25, Regen: 25.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 306%, Regen: 312/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 16 Dex / 116 Int / 16 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 166% / 67% / 91% / 103% / 77% / 63% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 664
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,041)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Arcane Ascendance / Teleport / Meteor

[celest rain]

This is a lot of effort just for 75% Fire Pen though.

And gives up Ward generation, Blind, and CC.

I mean I guess you still have Stun/Slow

[boreal widget]

Arcane ascension is an interesting choice if you have mana issues. Its bonuses are additive aren't they? And cast speed wont help disintigrate

[cosmic dove]

are you trying to make disintegrate work on sorc specifically?

as opposed to runemaster

[cosmic dove]

bug report submitted

[celest rain]

I'm using the node where it costs no mana

[boreal widget]

I honestly don't know enough about RM to know synergy for disintegrate. I imagine glyph of dominion combo works nice

[celest rain]

RM wouldn't add all that much I don't think

You'd get Flame Rush for Fire Shred, but that def gets reduced effectiveness on bosses

And the Glyph of Dominion Disintegrate buff is small and additive relative to all your other buffs on it already.

I guess it is free ignite stacks

[cosmic dove]

I've got a low level runemaster that is using lightning disintegrate + Echoes of Thunder invocation to apply brand of deception
it works pretty well but I havent pushed it

boosts to lightning dot help brand and disintegrate

[celest rain]

If I was going full Lightning Disintegrate, then RM seems lke it's be more beneficial

If you're going Fire, Sorc seems a lot more beneficial

[cosmic dove]

(no idea if it is good, just thought I'd mention it)

[harsh abyss]

No it's not, it's multiplicative

[boreal widget]

Sorry I'm tweaking this sheet you linked to give an idea of what I'd run, it'd be a lot cheaper too.

[harsh abyss]

Plus if you can apply brands, you can get two additional 12% more modifiers, which is pretty meaningful

So you can convert flame rush to cold, make it apply the brand, and channel disintegrate

[celest rain]

RM seems like you can get a lot of benefit to Lightning damage and dots and pen

For fire you're mainly just getting Ignite stacks out of it

[cosmic dove]

Echoes apply brand really well (triggered by flame rush)

[celest rain]

Diseenth's idea about Meteor giving 75% fire Pen seems.... a lot more useful if you want to go Fire Disint

[cosmic dove]

100%

[celest rain]

Especially if that doesn't get reduced on bosses

My build I'm trying currently because it's dual damage hybrid

It is mainly focused on tank and DoTs and CC

[cosmic dove]

are you avoiding both of the conversion nodes or taking both?

[grand lark]

I need someone to pray to rng that I get a +4 black hole soon....

Tried farming 20+ proph on my sentinel and that didn't work at all

[celest rain]

Avoiding both.

Maximizing my points into damage and tankitude.

[cosmic dove]

does craterborn only help 1/2 your damage or does the pen work on full damage?

[devout pecan]

I've seen the buff to Static/Lightning Blast combo (automatic cast of LB with Static charge), is there any potential to this?

[celest rain]

If I was doing Craterborn I'd fully convert it to Fire damage or there would be no point.

Because that would be 90% Fire Penetration.

[cosmic dove]

that sword that can give +6 to disintegrate might be worth looking at in that case then?

might make up for tankiness loss

disintegrate is already tanky / other sources

craterborn is 75% fire pen btw

[celest rain]

You get 15% from passives

I'm assume the pen stacks additively

[celest rain]

Which sword is that? O.o

[cosmic dove]

(ignore the slam)

[celest rain]

Eh not worth the tradeoffs

imo

Like if you were going to use that, then you could use Ingvar I guess

[boreal widget]

@celest rain I grew lazy and stopped part way but this is what I was more in line with thinking towards

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALD1zPdA

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (93)

General:

▸ Health: 1,687, Regen: 43.66/s
▸ Mana: 649.17, Regen: 18.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 314%, Regen: 210/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 20 Dex / 120 Int / 20 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 112% / 88% / 112% / 103% / 39% / 67% / 67%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 459
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (178)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,684)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 31%

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Arcane Ascendance / Teleport / Meteor

[celest rain]

But you are just totally abandoning tank stats

[boreal widget]

Ingvar and peak are so easy to LP getting a 3LP of those is much easier than a 2lp of wall of nothing

[celest rain]

I mean the 2LP wall is a stretch goal heh

I would imagine it's an LP1 Wall for a long time 😛

LP2 Aergon's are a dime a dozen tho.

[boreal widget]

But ingvar + peak on their own in that image, before weapon and other affixes come into play, is way more damage with disintegrate

to give an idea of how strong ingvar is for desintigrate

[celest rain]

I don't like how much tankiness is being sacrificed.

I am a slow old man, I need to be able to stand in a lot of shit 😛

[boreal widget]

There's a point where 'kill them before they kill you' helps with survival. And you aren't sacrificing that much?

You can invest way less in damage with ingvars cause of how it scales. Instead of 1000% damage over time on your gear, you can get 500% damage over time and 100% crit

250% damage over time and 200% crit will equal 1000% damage over time

[celest rain]

Right so that's two buffs to deal slightly more damage than a single buff

[boreal widget]

deal... slightly?

[celest rain]

Like realistically the damage increase would go up, but not by all that much, and you're giving up Flame Ward points, 10% flat damage reduction, more raw Ward, etc.

[boreal widget]

I don't think you quite grasp how vast the difference in multiplicative scaling is vs additive

[celest rain]

No, I understand, but that's why shiz like the 2H ele damage over time buff is like 800% in a single buff.

[boreal widget]

I didn't even add the weapon when I mentioned the damage boost

When I add the weapon its upwards of 1000%+?

Like with ingvars alone, the 400% elemental damage over time on your weapon becomes 600% just from the spell crit on ingvar itself

That's before peak is added into the mix, which turns 400% to 1200%

[celest rain]

I'm not saying it won't be more damage, but the effective damage output on the other end isn't going to double. Like you aren't doing to kill the boss literally twice as fast.

[boreal widget]

Yea, it'll more accurately triple or quadruple

[celest rain]

Wut no it won't

[boreal widget]

You're really underestimating just how hard it scales

[celest rain]

Effective damage probably won't even double.

It'll be more, for sure.

But you're forgetting other stuff.

Your build has literally half as much flat spell bonus, less Intel on weapons, etc.

That's a huge chunk lost to be multiplied by the % increases.

You're giving up a lot of tank, and yeah if you can 1 shot any boss in the game then who needs it, but you aren't 1 shotting any boss in the game 😛

You're giving up 10% flat damage reduction from the staff, Flame Ward points, bonus Ward, a shit ton of Ward per mana, Damage to mana, chance of 0%, mana/mana regen, etc.

All that to get maybe.... 40-50% more Effective DPS?

Someone better at dodging shit than me might be able to make good use of that increase, I probably can't tho tbh.

[boreal widget]

Eh it looks like I'm mathing it out wrong anyways, and the gambler's fallacy thing was nerfed (shows how long since I read up disintegrate). I still believe it'll deal signifigantly more damage than the flame ward staff. And the more I look at runemaster it definitely looks like the better option even with fire pen meteor. Glyph of Dominion is rediculous

[celest rain]

The math isn't that complicated, like I said, you'll get like 40-50% more effective damage.

Whether or not that's worth it is up to the individual, personally the utility and tank being lost isn't worth it to me.

I want my gameplay to be chill and relaxing 😛

The Fire Penetration though

THAT would be a big increase without having to change my gear and lose a bunch of tank even lol

That would be pretty neat

I'd be losing CC and utility, but if this build is as tanky as I'm hoping it is, maybe that doesn't matter.

I'd have to restructure my passives tho lol

@boreal widget the other fun thing is if you went Meteor you can take the passive skill that refunds 20% of Mana guaranteed if you have over 1000 Mana.

so without even using teleport that's 68% refunded.

Cause you don't need the Spell Slinger node

Actually

Is the Refund value (20%) tripled as well (to 60%)??

Or just the Spell damage and chance to refund?

[sinful coyote]

nope it’s triple the chance(35%) to 100% on 1000mana

[celest rain]

still only 20% refund though?

[sinful coyote]

and spell dmg from +5 to +15

yes

[celest rain]

aight

[boreal widget]

Yea meteor battery is pretty great.

[celest rain]

I'm actually not sure if I'd need the Teleport Refund node

At that point

Hm

Eh, I guess it wouldn't hurt

Does anyone know does "Global Cooldown Recovery Speed" apply to spells that are already on cooldown, or only spells you cast during the buff?

[sharp quest]

I cri as a lightning mage

[boreal widget]

Oh hey speaking of your wishlist

[sharp quest]

[boreal widget]

Is the set staff better than shattering it and putting it onto an exalted and sealing the set bonus affix?

[celest rain]

Like how does this work if you already casted something and then start Disintegrating?

I assume it does nothing? Or how would it work, because it seems a pointless node if it does nothing.

[sharp quest]

O.O it's my first time playing and I'm on the third monolith right now >.<
I don't think I've found much better stuff which is why I've been using this

Slowly getting into crafting

[boreal widget]

Ah you can shatter set bonus items and put them on non-uniques. The staff can take the 'shock duration' and 'meteor to lightning' part.

And you can turn a regular exalted staff into being part of the set to get the int -> spellpower effect

[sharp quest]

Oh wow damnnn

I'll research more on this >.<

I have copies of this set item in my inventory as well

So basically I can add these affixes to an exalted item, and then add exalted affixes to a unique as well (Cause of LP)? is that the way to go, or are exalted items by themselves also crazy strong

[boreal widget]

So something like this

And no you can't add it to a unique

It becomes a set item so can't be added to a unique

[proven fern]

hello should i not pick yellow and blue items when i'm in monolith ? my filter highlight this item

[near magnet]

probably due to the +1 to skill

if you open Shift-F it will add a number next to the item on the ground that corresponds to the rule on the loot filter

the description should hopefully explain

[upbeat temple]

I followed the maxroll guide, could you elaborate what you mean exactly? :)

[celest rain]

@boreal widget Okay this would be a pure fire build I could swing with the same gear and not losing tankiness: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKr11YXo

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (93)

General:

▸ Health: 2,086, Regen: 43.66/s
▸ Mana: 949.25, Regen: 25.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 306%, Regen: 312/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 16 Dex / 116 Int / 16 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 166% / 67% / 91% / 103% / 77% / 63% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 664
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,041)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Arcane Ascendance / Teleport / Meteor

[celest rain]

My only gripe with it is I don't have enough Disintegrate points to get the 20% skill cooldown node.

which would get Flame Ward down to like 6 second cooldown instead of 9.

So you'd have nearly constant uptime on it

I'm also not sure if getting the Fire Aura node on Flame Ward is worth giving up 100% fire damage on it.

ohhhh if I give up Fire aura entirely I can get the cooldown for Ward... hmmm

That might be worth it

But then I also lose fire damage per int...

So that's 65% fire damage and Fire Aura lost to get more consistent Flame Wards...

And 100% fire damage lost on Flame ward to get Fire aura on it instead.

hmm

Oh shit Fire Aura is like 60% of the base damage of a Disintegrate.... that seems worth.

60% more effective damage increase vs only 19% effective increase from the bonus 100 fire dmg

[boreal widget]

If you weren't so all in on the aberroth drop gear I'd say Crest of Unity + Glass Cannon to cancel each other out

[scenic dock]

do we have anything viable for uber besides BoD???

[sharp quest]

Oh wow damn

That's so cool

Thank you for the idea ^.^

Any wands and off-hand catalysts I can look out for? as like a lightning mage

[sinful coyote]

its staff only so no offhands

[weary hamlet]

at 72 flat it's a bit low but.. you might be on to something here, I'll check it out a bit later whether the math is mathing or not

[celest rain]

THERE

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALD1qWEA

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (93)

General:

▸ Health: 2,086, Regen: 43.66/s
▸ Mana: 949.25, Regen: 25.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 374%, Regen: 312/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 16 Dex / 116 Int / 16 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 162% / 63% / 87% / 103% / 77% / 63% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 664
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,041)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Arcane Ascendance / Teleport / Meteor

[celest rain]

Oh shit you can use Meteor guaranteed Crits to trigger Flame Auras with idols

That's dope

Diseenith thanks for the Meteor fire pen idea, I can rejig this all to get a lot more damage while maintaining tankiness.

And the gear doesn't have to all get swapped too much aside from some idols

The only real question here is can it be sustained Mana wise without Focus to generate a bunch.

[boreal widget]

Sorry, got a call and couldn't follow up

[boreal widget]

Are you liking flame auras? can make a passive tweak for it. One second here

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bj4OWMWA Review the passive tree there

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (70) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,108, Regen: 43.66/s
▸ Mana: 927.47, Regen: 25.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 353%, Regen: 310/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 16 Dex / 119 Int / 16 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 171% / 72% / 96% / 103% / 77% / 63% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 670
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,041)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Arcane Ascendance / Teleport / Meteor

[boreal widget]

Note the runemaster one is multiplicative damage reduction, -8% pretty much globally

[celest rain]

Flame Aura I've realized is a substantial Damage addition

More than a lot of what we've been discussing lol

Especially if you can stack Auras

[boreal widget]

Yea, anyways so ingvar's head has that little tidbit about flame auras

I kid though

seriously though look at the passive tree in my link and compare

[left hill]

Cooldown on those idols makes me so sad 😞

[celest rain]

Can Flame Aura stack?

[boreal widget]

Yea

[left hill]

Yes

[celest rain]

Oh shit yo

[boreal widget]

The visual gets a little silly at high stacks

[celest rain]

lol

[left hill]

Goofily enough, best way to stack it is Glyph of Dominion spam by mana stacking but staying at low mana

[smoky barn]

Is there a stack cap for flame aura?

[left hill]

No

[celest rain]

Flame Aura is an effective 73% damage increase with 1 aura.

Which is crazy

[left hill]

No hard cap anyway

Practically it's very hard to get past a couple dozen

[smoky barn]

Makes sense

[celest rain]

Eh there'd be no point

you're running into the wall of effective gains at that point

But like... 2-3 free Fire Auras would add a lot of damage to Disintegrate

Well... I don't know how far the Auras reach though

[left hill]

not really true for things like Uber Abby

[celest rain]

Do things have to be standing on top of you for fire aura to hit?

Or if you have the 40% improve Passive AoE does it reach a decent distance?

[left hill]

It's close range but not 0 range. And you can take some things to boost the area

[boreal widget]

2 or three?

[left hill]

that'll get you ~8 concurrent at peak (8.08 on average) if you can somehow pull off both conditions (otherwise ~4)

[boreal widget]

if only getting a volcano champion belt wasn't hell

[left hill]

Glyph can theoretically get to like 60-something. Maybe a bit higher with some really goofy gearing choices that sacrifice defense and other damage scalars.

[celest rain]

I don't think it would be worth pulling out a bunch of passive points just to get those Flame Aura passives lol

But nice idea

Especially when I'm often not moving or using melee attacks ;P

[smoky barn]

Isnt it worth for the int stacking tho?

[celest rain]

15 points is a looooot of points lol

[boreal widget]

personnally I don't like flame aura, but its for the int stacking damage bonus & flame resistance shred (since you don't have shred in build elsewhere) and still gives intellect. I moved points from elemental resist/damage in sorc tree to same thing in spellblade tree

[celest rain]

hmm

[boreal widget]

Resist wise that 8 points in runemaster is pretty much a 'Yes' in every mage build lol

its just 8% damage reduction and 64 health. Hard to beat that

[celest rain]

I guess I could pull some out of insight

And Inferno

God, we're crowd sourcing a build here rofl

[boreal widget]

Oh, if you keep inferno at 8 you can safely get rid of the spreading flames talent in desintigrate

As your flame auras and that talent will maintain it without needing to put a skill point in it

This one

spreading flames can't stack so no point beyond initial application for 15% damage buff from inferno

[celest rain]

meh

I'd need 3 freed up points

1 ain't enough to matter

Well... hmm

[boreal widget]

Still a free point to move, spreading flames is a 'one and done' since it spreads to all enemies once applied.

[celest rain]

actually... do I need 3 points in Lucomancer really?

I could get away with just 1

[boreal widget]

global reduced mana cost adds up

and global damage amplification is big

[cosmic dove]

please check the math. I don't have many LE TC skills yet so it could be very bad. but 6 points in disintegrate might make it interesting, I dunno

[scenic dock]

do we have alternatives to BoD for uber?

[celest rain]

hm

[boreal widget]

Note ludomancer is global so it buffs meteors and flame auras vs ignited enemies

and also reduces mana costs of all skills, not just disintegrate

[celest rain]

Do I need 8 points in the Pyromancer passive

[cosmic dove]

it hurts meteor battery, if you are using teleport before it but I agree

[celest rain]

I'd rather have it in Dragon Breath for the Area for Aura

I'd be losing Ignite % tho...

And ignite stacks

[boreal widget]

Funny thing for damage. Grabbing those 8 points in runemaster nullifies the self damage in glass cannon which would be 120% more damage with disintegrate (multiplicative)

[celest rain]

I mean

If I leave that 1 point in Disintegration

Can't I just give up Inferno entirely?

[boreal widget]

This is multiplicative, and disintegrate and fire aura benefit

[celest rain]

hm

Game needs to give me +4 to Disintegrate on armour and I'd be happy 😄

[boreal widget]

Those 5 points prob add up to being more damage than pyromancer, elemental ascendance, and elementalist combined

[celest rain]

Pyromancer I need for the Ignite stacks tho

otherwise I'd only have 1 point in it

Elemental Ascendence I pulled points out

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BE63veXo

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (78) / Spellblade (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,086, Regen: 43.66/s
▸ Mana: 949.25, Regen: 25.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 380%, Regen: 312/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 16 Dex / 119 Int / 16 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 171% / 72% / 96% / 103% / 77% / 63% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 664
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,041)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Arcane Ascendance / Teleport / Meteor

[celest rain]

This is where I'm at

I'd REALLY like to max out Dragon Breath as a passive

But I just don't have the points for it

[cosmic dove]

reactive ward and warden in base tree are really strong
I would get those over elementalist (additive so meh)

[boreal widget]

Great want me to throw another wrench in it with a different idea?

[celest rain]

I CAN ONLY FIT SO MANY IDEAS

[cosmic dove]

can the game interest you in +6 to disintegrate on weapon?
(sorry, had to)

[celest rain]

stabby stabby

There should be unique idols that give you +1-3 for certain skills

[boreal widget]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ba4R8wzQ

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (70) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 2,108, Regen: 43.66/s
▸ Mana: 912.95, Regen: 25.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 359%, Regen: 302/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 16 Dex / 119 Int / 16 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 171% / 72% / 96% / 103% / 77% / 63% / 63%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 670
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,041)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Flame Ward / Fireball / Teleport / Meteor

[boreal widget]

Wrench thrown

[unreal blade]

flame rush should be fixed soon

[celest rain]

Naw that's a bridge too far

That idea is too crazy

CRAZY

[boreal widget]

Everytime you move you throw out like 30 fireballs with 200% ignite chance

[celest rain]

No

There's a fireball cap

[boreal widget]

Oh hey its exactly 30

[celest rain]

It's 6

[boreal widget]

6 casts

[celest rain]

"Maximum Fireball Casts: 6"

[boreal widget]

Check the fireball tree

You'll launch 6 fireballs per cast, so 36 fireballs

[celest rain]

Hm

I mean.... still kinda eh on the idea

[boreal widget]

Technically 10 per cast but its cut in half +1 since grabbed thing that lets them all hit same target

[celest rain]

If for no other reason than twin Disintegrate Stream is sexy looking.