🧙┃mage

[harsh abyss]

@uncut zealot oh yeah buddy, we cookin

[half pollen]

Just throw in an idol

[cerulean plinth]

dont have one with crit avoid atm

[safe mason]

Hi guys. Thinking of trying a shatterstrike build for the first time. Those who play it, is it decent? Viable for some corruption pushing?

[proven dome]

Its one of The top builds for bossing

Im doing a variant of The build with flame reave, much more fun, since its screen wide aoe clear

[safe mason]

Ok ill check it out then. Thank you.

[weary hamlet]

yea disintegrate is a bit of a meme

[molten cobalt]

Is shatterstrike the meat grinder build?

If so it is quite squishy

So you better learn the boss mechanics and not get hit

[safe mason]

Currently playing a very squishy rogue in melee range so will be the same i guess

[molten cobalt]

I suppose

[spare sparrow]

not sure about currently but in the past it was quite tanky by just generating a ton of ward

[molten cobalt]

I saw a video where the dude couldn’t even generate 1000 ward

But maybe we’re talking about different builds

[half pollen]

meme you said? here is a dex stacking disintegrate runemaster
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A1d24eKo

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (28) / Runemaster (60)

General:

▸ Health: 1,356, Regen: 27.2/s
▸ Mana: 157.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 106%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 106 Dex / 59 Int / 15 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 88% / 58% / 88% / 66% / 62% / 68% / 68%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 271
▸ Dodge Chance: 17% (577)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 58% (4,155)

Used skills:

Disintegrate / Runic Invocation / Mana Strike / Static / Static Orb

[half pollen]

(never tested, probably complete trash, but you get 81 times damage on disintegrate)

and it has 415% crit chance 😄 (yes, absolute crit chance, not increased)

[weary hamlet]

ze fuq is that

[half pollen]

its an abomination

but you get a lot of crit from dex

probably needs a mana prefix somewhere to not go into negative

[weary hamlet]

you sly dog

8% per dex vs 3% from int

checkmate

[half pollen]

yeah, its quite a bit, I use that 8% per dex on my dex stacking reowyns runemaster

its free crit cap which is very nice

mourningfrost with its cold damage makes it a little awkward but you use elemental damage over time anyway

but you cant do lightning pen

and you probably need to spec into ball lightning with static orb to make mana manageable

[viscid rivet]

im doing a spellblade with mana strike + lightning dmg. does % increase to lightning damage give me more dps than flat +lightning meele damage

[half pollen]

depends on your gear, its a clear maybe

[viscid rivet]

the skill tree + ench weapon gives tons of flat. so i assume the % should give me the most?

[half pollen]

you need to do napkin math at least

[viscid rivet]

what is that lol

[half pollen]

thats rough math 😄

you need to calculate whats better for your current setup

or go to the dummy and try it out

[viscid rivet]

well the problem is im deciding on adding % dmg to my unique or flat

where is the dummy even. it has changed spots

[whole garnet]

Hi team 🙂 Dummy question, but is it possible to make Mana Strike deal decent dmg? I've got a Mana strike proc based build, Frost claw doing lots of the heavy lifting in clearing, but the area on these makes it difficult to hit bosses 😅

[viscid rivet]

you can use teleporting strikes from top right

it will use mana strike where ur cursor is

[weary hamlet]

these kinds of builds are usually focused on spell damage from various procs you trigger via mana strike since mana strike's direct damage is ass. If you want direct melee lightning damage consider building firebrand (converted) + surge

[weary hamlet]

kinda yes but actually no because it lacks any meaningful more damage in its tree

that said I ran this build a lot and didn't find issues with hitting bosses with your procs

[whole garnet]

Hmm I see, I do refer to the Ice Spirals missing the bosses btw!

[viscid rivet]

lightning blast is my only proc and spark charge i guess. im using the unique battlemage endeavour currently

mana strike dps is calculated at around 10-15k but does tha dps also calculate the lightning blast procs etc? or just mana strike dmg

[spare sparrow]

unrelated side note but firebrand surge is such a fun build zooming around and one hitting pretty much everything

[weary hamlet]

just mana strike direct damage, also tooltips are notoriously inaccurate

[weary hamlet]

would be more fun if surge's AOE didn't need to be found via a microscope

[whole garnet]

My mana stirke is calculated at 19k DPS, but hits for like 2k ST 😂

[weary hamlet]

also the calculation is for nominal damage while level 100 mobs have 87% (or was it 88) damage resistance

at least it's not old disintegrate where it could be hitting for 10k with a tooltip damage of 20 billion

they did fix that one.. a little bit

[quiet folio]

Still not accurate but the boss dummy is closer to reality

[meager badge]

hello guys, can anyone take a quick look at my build and give me some guidance on what to improve ? I am playing flame reave spellblade, but I kinda lack a bit of damage (~400k dps tooltip, but the numbers against bosses shows between 20k and 60k for a normal hit, and about ~150k for the 4th flame reave)
i am also not that tanky, most bosses 2-shoot me (especially the girl harbinger, her void line attack nearly one shots me each time 😦 )
i am trying to get enough stats for a red ring atm, trying to get a better helmet with +int
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEwO8q7A
thanks in advance

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Mage (22) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (85)

General:

▸ Health: 2,600, Regen: 24.86/s
▸ Mana: 240, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 257%, Regen: 234/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 20 Dex / 52 Int / 1 Att / 9 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 76% / 185% / 75% / 56% / 157% / 99%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 33%, Threshold: 520
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (168)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,535)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 69%

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Flame Ward / Flame Reave / Enchant Weapon / Teleport

[weary hamlet]

your weapons don't look good for flame reave chief, try either jasper's (you already have 3 in arcane severance - go up to 4 in that case), clotho's, or a pair of scissors, those are quite busted. Also try to find points to allocate crit multi in flame reave. Your idols also need more ward per second or ward on melee hit. Your trees are mostly fine but you should swap 8 of lower impact points from spellblade into Sphere of Protection. Your Flame Ward tree is wtf, go either for two charges (my preference with champions and everything around) or cold convert and get armor. Ward nodes in the tree feel too low impact to me. Auto recast in enchant weapon, not a fan, just press the button. +9 ward every 4 sec in mana strike sounds like a waste. Mana refund on teleport is unnecessary in your build, could also replace it with surge if you like that more, teleport tree is generally very low impact.

[meager badge]

Clotho's ? It's the weaver unique ? didn't even't considered that but looking at the item online yeah, looks really strong ! is it worth losing the 4 points from the traitors or do I put a clothos + traitors ?
for flame ward I wanted to grab the damage from its tree, but it's true it's a defensive spell so yeah, i'll try to respect

i'll take a look at surge instead of TP also, thanks for your feedback !

[scenic dock]

Whats our max corruption

[weary hamlet]

clotho is 2h, but you can dual wield scissors

[viscid rivet]

what in ur skills uses mana? you have lots of "mana gained" skill points but nothing uses mana really on ur build

eg u have 5/5 for "mana on crit" and "mana strike gives more mana"

instead u could put 5 points on "rage sap" which gives +35% global dmg increase

on flame ward there is that "infusion" node it gives +250% fire dmg for 5 points versus your +10 flat fire dmg. i cant imagine that flat damage being better than the % incerase

ah flame reave uses mana. didnt know. but those damage nodes are still worth a look

[meager badge]

flame reaves uses a lots of mana yeah

without this node I run out of mana in a second

and even with all these nodes I have to mana strike each 4 secs otherwise my mana is gone

[wild nymph]

thats a stretch, but if i spec into (lightning blast -> cold) passive and spec lightning blast into spark chage, will spark chage on melee hit be cold?
probably not, right
i've no idea how to check

[weary hamlet]

no because a cold conversion for spark charges just doesn't exist

it's convoluted but think of it more like an ailment - bleed doesn't convert to cold damage when applied by cold skills, right?

[wild nymph]

that feeling when spark charge on shatter doesnt have neitehr lightning shatter nor cold spark charge conversion

[weary hamlet]

nor any good way to apply it via shatter strike now that arcane current was reworked

[wild nymph]

wwwwwwwwhat did it do before the update

[weary hamlet]

wait no that's a brain fart, you couldn't take them together right?

at least this nerf wasn't relevant for SB

[wild nymph]

i only know of this one, aparently it didnt require a 40 mana cost before

[molten frost]

Would 1500% increase in cold damage and 33% crit chance out weight 200% pen with 85% crit chance? Taking into account same base cold dmg and crit multi.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7ZqZZPQ saw someone post this. Trying to juice it up

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (5) / Spellblade (69) / Runemaster (16)

General:

▸ Health: 1,885, Regen: 1,122/s
▸ Mana: 219.51, Regen: 15.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 76%, Regen: 32/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 34 Dex / 26 Int / 1 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 73% / 61% / 73% / 59% / 54% / 35% / 69%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 377
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (136)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 10% (241)

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Shatter Strike / Enchant Weapon / Teleport / Flame Ward

[onyx dagger]

That looks like a math question. You should pop that into an LLM and see what it says.

[weary hamlet]

depends on the rest of your stats, especially increased damage you already have

[molten arch]

It would depend on the crit multiplier

[frosty fox]

There seems to be so few mage builds on maxroll, only 1 runemaster, is there not much viable for mage?

[queen stratus]

I'm currently trying to get the glacier one online but it's rough I haven't tried anything else though.

[frosty fox]

Yeah im not sure if its a maxroll thing or a game thing or what

I tried icyveins but their builds seem more confusing

[quiet folio]

Flat damage better until you have enough to multiply 😂 🤣

[quiet folio]

Did ye try the new Helm?

[queen stratus]

My warpath was in 300corrupts at lvl 73. My mage is 80 and can barely do empowered 100 corrupts. I think it's a balance thing lol.

I have the crit one right now is this is my first league with LE

[weary hamlet]

no maxroll just sucks and covers only a handful of builds

[frosty fox]

Yeah thats feels bad, and im not big brain enough to make my own lol

[weary hamlet]

back when they released falconer it could do 3000 corruption with no gear

like, literally by unequipping all your gear

or maybe it was "only" 1k corr some guy did this on stream

balance in LE is a joke but that works both ways, as most builds can kill reasonably challenging content with enough gear

[frosty fox]

Is there anywhere else to look for builds? Maxroll is so detailed but seems to have so few options

[weary hamlet]

youtube

some builds from there end up on le tools in the builds category but I'm not sure how they are scraping the data, still ought to be a small selection

[frosty fox]

Gotcha, ill check tomorrow then and hopefully find something that looks interesting. I was looking to try runemaster but hydrahedron just not my thing lol

[solemn viper]

Has anyone had any luck in doing a Grand Prism Nova build with the new catalyst?

[weary hamlet]

yea some guy got lucky yesterday and discovered a bug with repeated invos not being replaced

omegarip

[half pollen]

which is a good thing, since the actual invocation is probably better than grand prism nova

[weary hamlet]

I also have a strong suspicion that just using it with 3x the same rune is better than trying to get resets via using rainbow runes

20% reset chance vs much better scaling on single element

[half pollen]

well the biggest issue is that the item doesnt do jack shit to buff the invocation, has a horrible base and no other useful stats

and reacting to your runes not resetting must be absolutely horrible gameplay wise

you usually have 2 or 3 runes again before you could react to the not reset stuff

[weary hamlet]

its a catalyst with no crit

tbh I still have no fu cking clue wtf they are thinking with the catalysts

having one viable base for an entire item class is pretty damn bad in my book

[half pollen]

its two imo

Opulent Focus is very strong too

now that int got gutted ward retention wise

[weary hamlet]

yea cause the other can high roll 5% crit pepega

[half pollen]

6%

oh, you mean the worse crit one 😄

none of my current builds have any use for crit, so those arent useful for my build anyway

having like 1000% increased crit chance from dex is nice

[weary hamlet]

yea I mean there are edge cases

or maybe if you are in ailments

[half pollen]

gordian prism getting a 6 int base is super troll though

at least you can get a 3LP one quite reasonably

but I would probably still prefer a good base with 4 affixes

[weary hamlet]

maybe they were afraid of giving a good base to a low lpl unique and they felt that it had to be low lpl cause it's a meme

[solemn viper]

That’s what I was thinking, probably lightning is the best

[weary hamlet]

but could have given at least something better

[weary hamlet]

yea ofc cause you can use the free ward affixes with lightning

[half pollen]

yeah but lightning replaces one of the best invocation. You use your off hand slot to use a 600% effectiveness spell instead of a 1600% effectiveness spell

the only thing going for GPN is its aoe

if it would replace ALL invocations with grand prism nova, direct or indirect, that would be at least a little interesting

[weary hamlet]

wasn't it 900? But LLL invo has shit clear so you are probably using it with like convergence LB for single target

yea yea I already know your next point

why jump through all the hoops and not just use it the other way around

[weary hamlet]

no reason whatsoever

lol yea that's bad I thought they bumped it to 900% in this patch

[quasi wedge]

unstable core vs fundamental criterion for Ele Nova runemaster?

[weary hamlet]

criterion doesn't do anything for ele nova right?

[quasi wedge]

ah, you're right

can I somehow proc three novas with this?

I mean, I can unequip flame ward and cast it when stunned

so that's three slots-nova, RI, teleport

[half pollen]

nope

[weary hamlet]

no I mean even if that did work, criterion would do nothing to help that

[quasi wedge]

aha, criterion is specifically for invocations

ok, but would that work? "naked" nova with no other skills on bar, being cast thrice?

[half pollen]

you dont need to put nova into 3 slots, you can just have it on one slot and it casts it 3 times assuming the runes match the element

[quasi wedge]

jeah but I am worried about other skills

[half pollen]

just put them on cooldown before, thats how I do it

[weary hamlet]

but wait I was just casually looking at the nova tree and you can kinda build a cold only channeled ele nova by dipping into the lightning tree and disabling the lightning nova there

you get like 40 points in the tree, enough to take everything of value

[half pollen]

yeah, but is it good now? Or is it still ass?

[quasi wedge]

I mean it's like 20% better so still probably ass
but I can't help myself

[half pollen]

channeled nova misses the defense part that disintegrate and focus have

[quasi wedge]

I fear that my 2 ideas clash - cast 6 novas per RI, and using Gordian prism

[weary hamlet]

you get to 18,8x more damage and 5 casts per second without having to invest anything into cast speed

[weary hamlet]

no shit but we are memeing here

[quasi wedge]

'cause with gordian prism I likely want to just cast Grand prism novas as many times as possible

[weary hamlet]

why do you even bother asking rhetorical questions, of course it's still ass cause that also costs 64 mana per second to channel

[half pollen]

its a shame that mana spent channeling doesnt count as mana spent

[weary hamlet]

I'm pretty sure it does, or at least it did back when I was running fire disintegrate on sorc

[half pollen]

no clue, sorry

[weary hamlet]

casually got to like 300% mana spent gained as ward and it definitely showed in ward numbers

[half pollen]

it doesnt work for arcane battery in runic invocation

[weary hamlet]

I was on sorc

[half pollen]

oh, then the runic invocation node just sucks

[weary hamlet]

so no rm shenenigans contaminated the test results

[half pollen]

runic invocation with arcane battery could have saved the mana issues though

[weary hamlet]

yea I actually checked what arcane battery says and there is no mistake there, cause for a channeling skill "casting" only counts when you start channeling it

[half pollen]

oh, I cant read

would be great if that was mana spent without the cast restriction

[weary hamlet]

yea but that would be too fun

[quasi wedge]

hmm, second scaling avenue would be mana

anything that scales with mana well, besides %dmg x2 with >300 mana?

[half pollen]

Static orb

[weary hamlet]

coming to think about it, I never tried building around random invos and Runic Energizer, does it actually work? Does it give you more accumulation per invo? How long do the stacks last?

still probably not worth it..

[quiet folio]

The only thing with higher damage is the one that pulls Monsters in and explodes after 3s

[weary hamlet]

per hit, sure. But a lot of invos have multiple hits resulting in higher total efficiency

[half pollen]

Gon Gon Gon is 1600% since its 16 times 100%

[quasi wedge]

5 invos to get 2 stacks per second, meanwhile with 100 cost RI you can get 10 per cast

[half pollen]

even if you get to 300% its still a lot worse than mana battery. With mana battery you press static once and have enough stacks for the spell triggers

[weary hamlet]

or just spam rainbow rune bolts at 3-4 times per second to get 1 energy per cast with Rune Powercore

[half pollen]

thats still a lot slower than arcane battery 😄

[weary hamlet]

yes but you don't have to regen mana

[half pollen]

you dont need mana reg

[weary hamlet]

yea you only need to waste time on focus

[half pollen]

you trigger mana strike with your runic invocation

thats what I do on my fortress build

its 240 mana every RI

[weary hamlet]

wait lol with spell cascade?

[half pollen]

yeah

[weary hamlet]

omegarip

[half pollen]

works nice with channel spells since those dont get trigger

[weary hamlet]

this sounds more and more janky by the second

[quiet folio]

20 base dmg vs 3x 40 on nova or 3x 53 on Antipode still looks way stronger, no? on bosses at least sorry...that was missing 😄

[half pollen]

I do one 3 rune invocation per second

[quasi wedge]

if I wanted non-janky I'd play hydra like everyone else

[half pollen]

with elemental nova on your bar you only get 1.5 mana strikes per RI on average though

so you need to make due with 120ish mana per RI where RI itself costs 36ish when you spec the mana return

[quasi wedge]

I'd use the maxed out refund node

[half pollen]

with lightning nova you can do 2 novas, static cast and then RI

[quasi wedge]

and find a way to scale with mana

[half pollen]

with cast speed thats probably two 3 rune invocations per second

[weary hamlet]

tbh any unconventional invo build is gonna be jank since you won't be leveraging criterion fully, or at all, and that's like 90% of the skill's power budget

[half pollen]

yeah, criterion is a must

its all just different criterion builds

[quasi wedge]

but I want to cast 6 novas with RI 😦

[weary hamlet]

yea ofc I meant that the intended (apparently) method of playing RI as an "invoker" cannot be viable with this item being what it is

[half pollen]

yep

[weary hamlet]

cause when your invos are all over the place you arent getting good use of criterion

I wonder why they never even acknowledged it as an issue

then again..

[half pollen]

I dont think they even want you to play different invocations

they killed the only invocation that was good besides your primary damage invocation

man now I want to build a elemental nova RI spam master

[weary hamlet]

what's weird is that that was the only non-damage invo, like where are the rest of my utility, buff, debuff, CC, or mobility effects that I might be inclined to use situationally?

[half pollen]

yeah, exactly. They didnt give us any reason to use different invocations. They only differ in AoE, Element, Damage effectiveness and amount of hits

[hallow sapphire]

But you cant move right?

[sour thicket]

Definitely can.

[half pollen]

whaaaaaat

[sour thicket]

And I’ve tested you definitely gain the % increase to spell damage and the buff is on your buff bar

You just have to be moving before you use arcane ascendancy. Once you’re moving, it be on. Once you stop, you’ll have to recast after you start moving with focus again

[weary hamlet]

spaghetti code is a pathway to many interactions some would consider unnatural

[quasi wedge]

idk why they made invocations permutations, instead of more meaningful combinations

like the more spells the merrier, but each has like 2-3 variants, and only like 5 are really useful

[hallow sapphire]

Thats crazy. What else are you running with it? I was doing focus, meteor, enchant weapon, static, lb

[sour thicket]

Focus, meteor, lightning blast, static, arcane arcane ascendancy

Unspec teleport

Static might get removed for flame ward if I end up needing it

[lime tundra]

is Clotho's needle worth respeccing to spellblade? ive got one with 1 LP or one with 13 weavers will rolls available

[quiet folio]

getting there 😂

[tired hound]

@molten cobalt can yiu link me your build? Ive seen the link somewhere and i cant find it anymore
Many thanks!

(Auto bomber)

[molten cobalt]

i followed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcsX7zLNd5s

corruption 454 atm and still slapping and effortless

[tired hound]

Thank you very much sir

[round hare]

No

[peak oracle]

🤔 my website one is like 760k it doesnt seem to include a lot of things

[quiet folio]

yea still cooking got it as high as 6 mil but the gear is near impossible to get

[peak oracle]

lmao

theoretical gear

[quiet folio]

well just have to farm a shit ton tho, you need flat spell damage on all your idols where possible 😄

personally, i think those new idols and set crafting ic ompletely overlooked by soooo many

[peak oracle]

im sacrificing a lot of dps for just survivalability and qol

[weary hamlet]

hold your horses until you get a needle with actually good rolls, might take 50 needles, might take 500

WW is a lottery

[zinc pewter]

best slot in any build?

[weary hamlet]

yea it aint bad for a build that doesnt want a specific chest unique

so not mage omegalul

although its viability on primalist got significantly impacted by the new 25% less damage taken chest which also has low LPL

[molten cobalt]

would you actually swap class/build for that alone?

[hazy kraken]

most fun sorcerer build currently?

[weary hamlet]

nobody knows what you find fun, gotta narrow that down a bit

[hazy kraken]

guess best build then

most complete

[molten cobalt]

lightning meteor autobomber?

but it is rather skimpy defense wise

[hazy kraken]

sounds awesome tbh

where can i find it?

[molten cobalt]

never seen 3lp from a nemesis before

[hazy kraken]

maybe i should just follow a lvling guide untill i hit endgame?

[full bluff]

I am playing a spark charge based sorcerer build now, pretty good (to be a sorcerer) but don't think there is a guide for it

[molten cobalt]

1 tap KO fully empowered nemesis 😄

[slim furnace]

i got a echo popping up in my monolith that isnt imprinted into my weaver tree

im confused

[half pollen]

Its so anti climactic though, just a little boop and then he dies. We need big explosions and stuff!

[molten cobalt]

that is fair

cant have it all

[molten cobalt]

i forgot i needed to swap attribute and now item is 0 potential

shit

such a good feeder too

ass

[cloud aurora]

Hello, i found a alchimist laddle 3lp i put 40% cast speed+shred armor on my frostclaw runemaster any build has good use of alchimiste laddle and intelligence on stacking for more cast speed please? Ty in advance

[molten cobalt]

the era is ladle is mostly past

[cloud aurora]

So it finally dropped at the worst time xD🥹

Roger, i will stick to my heart seeker so and bear beastmaster

[cloud aurora]

What build is this please

[molten cobalt]

@cloud aurora this

[cloud aurora]

Ty very much

[hollow bolt]

spark charges have always been great

dragorath + enigma = lightning blasts spark charges nuke screen

[cloud aurora]

Spark charge is proc by lightning blast if i remember well?

[sacred flume]

flame reave or shatter strike for spellblade lads?

[weary hamlet]

ss is a lot better

[warm flicker]

Ive been doing flame reave and just hit a wall at 300c. You can get decent damage but you pop like a balloon if any of the tomb enemies look at you funny. I can cruise through 100c and 200c usually. Havnt been able to fix the survivability yet.

[molten cobalt]

im still chilling on 450

clearing just as fast as 100

[fading snow]

If you can fit it, sunwreath + aoe + pull nodes for flame reave are very comfy for mapping, so you can include it in your SS build

unless that's been changed in the last... year and a half or something

[languid ridge]

Playing fire Sorc right now, any suggestion for cool uniques I could fish for with ascendance runes? Already got Calamity hat

[harsh abyss]

I'm doing a GPM build with Gordian Prism and it's getting into the endgame. I'm doing tri-element with ele nova and it slaps. I dunno who was saying that Elemental Starfield only does 1 nova when using Crest of Unity, but they're wrong. Every time you use the RI you get 3 ele novas.

So with a 30% chance to keep your runes, sometimes you can get a chain of 3-4 casts of RI in a row and that means 9-12 ele novas all going off. Plus you int stack and use Cosmic Mind to get like 700+ ward each time you cast it, so it's easy to bump your ward to 4-5k with the garbo gear I have.

It sucks that Copied Scrolls doesn't work, but also it doesn't actually matter that much because you're invoking SO often. I had Spell Cascade originally, but aside from the very first cast of a fight, it will NEVER go off, because you're invoking every 3 casts (at most) so you never really accrue runic energy when you need it.

Here is my actually trash current setup ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6zpw2DA. I haven't gotten a good slam on an Unstable Core yet, so I have that and Wrongwarp to upgrade to still. Did the first harbinger at 74 and it was basically a non-issue. Not being able to use unique rings and amulet will hurt, and I may drop them eventually once I get a good Unstable Core so that I can get Red Rings or Oceareon in there

[cerulean plinth]

finally found my first vilatria set at 88

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, it took me a long time too. Now get ready for the grind to find a good staff to add the set to, heh

[cerulean plinth]

yeeeeah

I see they changed this side of the tree to only happen when it's directly cast

is that what kinda killed meteor autocasting?

[harsh abyss]

Basically, yeah

You can make up for it with a lot more procs, but it'll still eat your mana for breakfast

[cerulean plinth]

it sure does

[harsh abyss]

That's why even using single-meteor casts, I've always found it easier to just self-cast. It's so much more controllable

[marble badge]

Anyone's world ender not guaranteeing crit hits?

[cerulean plinth]

do you benefit from craterborn if you're converting to lightning

[harsh abyss]

No

Craterborn and shrapnel don't convert

[cerulean plinth]

hmm

[harsh abyss]

Shrapnel CAN trigger more meteors though, if you hate having mana that much.

[weary hamlet]

btw Zerax how is your channeled LB build, have you dropped it already?

[harsh abyss]

It's at Aberroth, but to beat him I need some significant upgrades that I don't feel like farming for right now

[weary hamlet]

lol same spot as my focal blast is in

I just thought, you are a real channeling enjoyer, have you tried channeled nova?

[harsh abyss]

I'm using a Triboelectra, which is really bad for the build if you ever have to use Evade, since it takes you deep enough into negative that you can't start channeling LB again

[harsh abyss]

I have only dropped ONE mana guide, and it happened from a prophecy right as I DC'd so I couldn't pick it up.

[cerulean plinth]

tragic

[weary hamlet]

I have a few 2-3 lp ones

but look I ran the math today and you can get channeled mono cold nova at about x12 more

without any kind of real silly shenanigans

just a honest workmanlike build

[harsh abyss]

I did get another one from Nemesis yesterday, but I'm probably gonna focus on my nova + prism build for a bit and see if I can get one that I can plop a decent slam onto

I'm gonna do a mana stacking mana guide build instead of the brand trigger version that everyone is so hyped about.

[cerulean plinth]

so I've been messing around with trying to use LB to proc meteors and am looking into maybe putting points into spark charges. any recommendations? Is it even worth putting points into spark charges if you're not specifically building around them

[harsh abyss]

They can crit, so they can add extra procs and stuff. I like to use them on ele nova because they scale with flat spell damage and stuff. Makes early game good

I've never liked them for LB because 30% application chance just feels too low

And all the other spark charge application stuff is on melee attacks

[cerulean plinth]

makes sense

I've seen a different version where they use range mana strike to proc meteors instead

but idk if I like that more

[harsh abyss]

I like the mana strike version for a few reasons:

1. Mana strike regens mana, which helps keep you afloat.
2. You can use it to proc a variety of things that can crit: spark charges, Mana Arc, Frost Claw
3. Rune Sap is a decent amount of increased damage for free.
4. If you're scaling mana (which you should be), crit chance is capped when you have 1000+ mana with the right node

[cerulean plinth]

hmmm

I'll give it a try

[marble badge]

World ender doesn't seem to be working for me

[cerulean plinth]

I only have 500 mana atm with the +140 from vil staff

[harsh abyss]

Do you have a Singularity(one slot unique idol) equipped? Or Wing Guards (gloves)?

Both of those make it so you can't crit

[marble badge]

no, also second picture has 1 crit and 1 non in same meteor

[harsh abyss]

Have you changed zones since you selected the World Ender node? (remember all monoliths are the same zone)

Sometimes you have to transition zones before new nodes kick in

[cerulean plinth]

is it worth making strike range if it's a whopping --80% mana regen

[harsh abyss]

The -80% mana doesn't affect the "mana gain on crit" or "mana gain on boss/rare hit" nodes, so you can work around it pretty easily.

[cerulean plinth]

oh interesting

should I also swap static to frostclaw

prob

wait, if you change strike to be range, does this node even still work

[harsh abyss]

Yep, mana strike still counts as a melee attack when it's ranged

[cerulean plinth]

that's sick

[harsh abyss]

There's another 20% chance to proc FC on the spellblade tree too

And you can make it hit 5 times, so 50% chance to hit 5 times on a melee attack adds up quick

[marble badge]

Seems to be specific to the Age of Winter timeline. If I go to Last Ruin timeline, it works, if I got back again to Age of Winter it's broken again

[cerulean plinth]

does it need to be on your bar like static

[harsh abyss]

Nope

[cerulean plinth]

ooo

[harsh abyss]

oh! Do you have a monolith 'buff' currently where mobs have a chance to evade crits? That can also do it I think

It should show them on the right side of the screen unless you have it minimized

[marble badge]

Yes!, that was it. I see it on the left in enemy modifiers. Thanks, was driving me crazy

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I didn't even think about it as a thing. I often forget about those modifiers

[marble badge]

apparently it's a modifier for my whole Age of Winter timeline...

[harsh abyss]

They have a 'lifetime' so once you complete 2-4 echoes it should go away

[marble badge]

ah nice, didn't know that

[harsh abyss]

Yeah the UI doesn't do a good job being clear about that

[grand karma]

Is there a node for elem nova that allows it to fire where you click or is that unique to the helmet?

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, Arcane Projection, in the west end of the Fire branch

[grand karma]

Neat. I'm trying to mess around with a elem nova build that hard casts it and uses the catalyst that turns invocation to grand prism nova

And I wanted to use crest of unity

[harsh abyss]

That's what I spent most of yesterday doing: #🧙┃mage message

It's been working really well so far. Not sure how it'll go as I get to higher corruption though. Still need those key upgrades that'll help a lot

[grand karma]

Do you mainly use gpm or nova?

[harsh abyss]

Both. GPN casts nova 3 times every time I use it. So it's Nova 3 times -> GPN

And then if GPN doesn't use your runes, do it again. Sometimes you can get chains of 3-4 uses before your runes are consumed and it's VERY satisfying.

While leveling I'd highly recommend you use fireball line or some other good single target for bosses. It doesn't really come online until level 50 or so.

[grand karma]

So like you use unstable core, crest of unity, mad alchemist ladle, twisted heart, and gprism?

[harsh abyss]

I wouldn't use Alchemist's Ladle, you need decent flat spell damage for the build. Ladle is best when you have another source of flat spell damage that you scale.

[grand karma]

Hmm. Interesting is there a unique that's good for the slot or is it just find an exalted?

[harsh abyss]

My current plan is to swap to Wrongwarp, since teleport also casts 3 ele novas. I'm a little concerned about how the random positioning will feel in boss fights, but with Evade it shouldn't be too bad.

[grand karma]

Why not just use flame dash? It'll auto cast gpn?

[harsh abyss]

NO, GPN only works on DIRECT casts (says it on the item)

[grand karma]

Ah darn XD

[harsh abyss]

Also, teleport + 3 novas is great for clearing trash

When you get your nova AOE big enough, they overlap

[grand karma]

Fair. Plus not like nova needs you to be super positioned since the aoe is so big.

[harsh abyss]

yeah

[grand karma]

Have you found in testing if gpn uses any nova nodes?

[harsh abyss]

It doesn't, but it also doesn't need to

It basically hits the whole screen

I don't use the Projector node in Nova because the AOE is big enough

[grand karma]

Sexy. So just for clarification, you hard cast nova 3 times for runes, gpn until out of runes (which spams 3 novas), then repeat?

[harsh abyss]

Yep, with teleports as often as it's up, or to reposition. Then when you drop below zero mana, pop Focus for a second to get 40% mana instantly and the burst will fill you up most of the rest of the way.

I've never had problems with Focus CD being too long, as long as I use the burst as well as the instant mana.

[grand karma]

Hmm... would you consider if the cooldown node on invocation? Since it gives a big boost to dmg?

[harsh abyss]

No

[cerulean plinth]

I was wondering why strike didn't feel that good and then I saw this node. omg

actual game changer

[grand karma]

I just don't know if the boost and not needing to worry bout mana too much is worth the downtime

[harsh abyss]

I used it early on because my mana couldn't handle repeat invocations, but when you can trigger multiple invocations in a row, the cooldown messes that all up

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, you NEED that node

[harsh abyss]

45% more damage is nice, but casting it twice in a row is 100% more damage 😝

[grand karma]

So what's your other skill? You have nova, tp, invo, focus... that offers for a 5th skill

[harsh abyss]

Mana is basically never an issue for me unless I'm on a boss

[cerulean plinth]

what do you do for ward gen on a build like this

[thin flicker]

I kind of want to do a build with the mirror clones from teleport

[cerulean plinth]

I was using heart but it doesn't work with this

[harsh abyss]

Flame Ward for defense, though I'm considering using Glyph of Dominion for some defenses while standing on it because my resists are really bad right now.

[harsh abyss]

Pray, mostly. IDK I haven't actually done it in a while. You could easily do a combo of ward/sec and health leech/regen and stack health and endurance like a normal build.

[grand karma]

Idk bout that, I'd your tp all over the place (if you swap to the wand) you'll hop out if it

Wait why doesn't heart work?

[harsh abyss]

He's talking about a different build

Heart would work with the nova build

[grand karma]

Oh lol

[harsh abyss]

Ward for the nova build is REALLY good, with 3 different runes, Cosmic Mind provides a crapton of ward when you cast RI

And plus you have the big less damage taken from Crest of Unity

[grand karma]

I'm stoked to try the build. I loved novaclaw in 1.0

[harsh abyss]

It's been pretty fun. Just explosions everywhere.

Ele nova is enough to kill small/medium enemies in one or two hits, RI will blow up a whole screen of enemies in one cast

You're zooming around with teleport every couple seconds

[cerulean plinth]

erm

[harsh abyss]

Just a graphic issue

[cerulean plinth]

yeee just had me confused for a sec

[harsh abyss]

I think the only part of the build I'm not currently liking is the Invoker set. The +3 levels and all the cast speed it gives are good, but I think I'd prefer to be able to use some of the strong uniques for those slots. I'm considering dropping it when I get a decent Unstable Core slam (since it also provides the same +3 levels to my skills)

And if I don't like the way Wrongwarp feels with the teleport, my backup is probably a Triboelectra, which will be another +3 for all my skills.

[grand karma]

ALL THE SKILL LEVELS

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, also it's valuable to keep Ele Nova at 0 mana cost. That way when you drop negative after casting RI, you can still cast nova. I found that if I couldn't, it felt weird and disrupted my flow

Shattered Cycle also has decent stats for a scepter, but you'll never utilize the Dawn To Dusk mechanic so it doesn't feel worth it.

[cobalt totem]

hey, so I’m looking at builds on lastepochtools, and I see very little disintegrate builds. I guess it isn’t suitable for clearing content fast ?

[cerulean plinth]

first crafting attempt...kinda got screwed on suffix rng and havoc also screwed me over

[plucky vale]

How do you sustain mana with auto meteor build ?

[cerulean plinth]

uhhh mana strike seems like an ok option so far. other than that focus ig

[plucky vale]

yea i am playing mana guide so cant do that xD

[cerulean plinth]

t5 regen kinda troll but I got lucky sealing t2 vil. what should I do as my 2nd prefix?

I don't have any lightning crit shards

mana I guess?

[plucky vale]

i feel like the base set helm is good already until gg helm

[cerulean plinth]

uh yeah, probably

just gonna slam mana for now

decent. I think it's better than base set helm...I think

[molten cobalt]

still trying to make a good helmet myself

stuck with this

[steel oasis]

how do you build volco orb shrapnel or orbs

I tinkered too close to the sun last night and my builds funky now but my cooldowns are nice

[cerulean plinth]

that double t7 could have been insane.....

[cold sand]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qde2W63B

any suggestions? Tryin take down uber aberoth solo, was able to get him in group, but solo is really difficult w/ how terrible Focus is

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (66) / Runemaster (27)

General:

▸ Health: 1,312, Regen: 23.6/s
▸ Mana: 2,016.81, Regen: 26.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 218%, Regen: 248/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 21 Dex / 115 Int / 11 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 73% / 49% / 117% / 63% / 77% / 52% / 52%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 274
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (232)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (2,003)

Used skills:

Snap Freeze / Flame Ward / Teleport / Static Orb / Focus

[cerulean plinth]

2k mana is insane holy

[steel oasis]

does the fire aura on crit idols share a cooldown?

[half pollen]

Yes

[molten cobalt]

baby steps

wish the t6 had ended up on the STR though

[cerulean plinth]

going for t5 vil instead of sealing it prob is just worth on helm huh

[molten cobalt]

hm

would that be 0,8%?

[cerulean plinth]

that lightning pen is pretty huge

I sealed at t2

[half pollen]

not that huge for lightning invocations

since those get insane pen anyway

[molten cobalt]

yeah 0,2% is too low

[cerulean plinth]

I'm playing frost claw/mana strike/lightning meteors rn

trying to figure out how to not die instantly

[half pollen]

yeah chillon needs the shock chance

for his build

[molten cobalt]

that 1% on helmet takes me from 367% to 521% shock chance

[cerulean plinth]

sheesh

[molten cobalt]

which is MASSIVE

so 0,2% would be like 31% shock chance

[half pollen]

I just spam the invocation for shock chance

I get up to 750% with it

[molten cobalt]

instead of 154 from a t7

[molten cobalt]

what do you mean

[steel oasis]

so the idols DO share a cooldown, i cant get lucky?

[half pollen]

cold cold lightning gives 100% shock chance

for 4 seconds

so 200% for 4 seconds with repeat invocation

[waxen locust]

how does your build work?

[half pollen]

which means I get 400% from invocation

[molten cobalt]

didnt know covenant boosted shock chance

that 521% was with plasma orb

standing in town

aye i see it now

100% per activation

[waxen locust]

how did you get 6 affixes with two from a set item?

[molten cobalt]

what cave have you been living in

its a crafting mechanic in this league

[half pollen]

says the guy who doesnt know that the invocation he regulary uses in his shock chance build gives a shock chance buff (sry)

[molten cobalt]

oof

fair

i had that coming

[waxen locust]

yes but how did you get 6 affixes?

u can get 5 with sealing but 6?

[molten cobalt]

its 5

the 6th isnt an affix

it is a set bonus

[waxen locust]

aaa, makes sense now. thanks for the explanation

[cold sand]

just mana stacking static orb, more mana = more damage

[waxen locust]

how's clear and single target?

[sacred flume]

Anyone got a good flame reave build?

[hollow bolt]

There is a flame reave build where you use it for mapping and swap to static on bosses

[sacred flume]

Oh man swapping skills sound like a chore to me 😦

Is shatterstrike just better?

[tight bloom]

oof that t4 julra was hard even on cleaver brand of deception, first t4 julra ever, took like 6-7 tries

[hollow bolt]

not full respec just off your bar

[neat basin]

Do you have a link to it?

[hollow bolt]

it was a video that dr3ad made a while ago. you use the flame reave around you tech for mapping. then for bossing you replace flame reave with static on your bar

[hollow bolt]

shatterstrike is good if you enjoy the generator spender playstyle

[molten cobalt]

pray for me

i want the dex to land

nope

[cold sand]

both very good, but uber aberoth a bit hard cus you have to rely on using focus to regen mana during the fight and it's clunky af

[uncut zealot]

You still on same build??

[molten cobalt]

yes i dont have tiktok brain

[uncut zealot]

😂😂😂

[molten cobalt]

i can actually keep interest

longer attention span is dying out though

soon to be extinct

lets go again!

shit

[sacred flume]

anyone know a shatterstrike leveling build?

[cosmic dove]

maxroll has one

[unkempt socket]

Im trying to make shattering work in endgame, its tough xd

Atleast starting oht its hard, go alot of damage but really bad survivability

[charred stone]

Does anyone know if mana strike keeps the melee tag when you take teleporting strike to convert it to ranged attack? I'd assume not but I don't have a mage to verify

[blazing root]

I believe it does based on discussion in here

[oblique fossil]

I think it would since skill doesn't say it removes a tag just makes it a teleport and hit

[tight bloom]

isn't this too much damage for 142 corruption?

[unkempt socket]

Nah

[tight bloom]

there were like 2-3 hits in less than a second

[molten cobalt]

you're simply too weak

[blazing root]

Also some things, especially with the weaver possession, slap

[harsh abyss]

Yes it does

[unkempt socket]

Yah i have same issue on my spellblade build, i can erase single target, as long as i stay alive

[hallow sapphire]

Im 2500 ehp at 100 corruption and getting melted. What do?

[robust jetty]

I'm a noob just running my own elemental nova / fireball build, does anyone know of any relevant build guides I could look at to find a loot filter, or at least see what affixes I should be looking for?

[molten cobalt]

get more damage or more ehp

[hallow sapphire]

I would suggest look up raxx universal filter, he just released a new one with a video to go with it

[hallow sapphire]

Is 2500ehp low for 100 corruption with max res?

[molten cobalt]

i dont know

but clearly it is for you

[robust jetty]

the problem with ANY filter is that you need to add the affixes you are looking for.
I am new to the game, I have no clue if spell damage is better than chance to ignite, or some other affix I don't even know about yet 😅

[harsh abyss]

If you look up Aaron Action RPG he has some 'basics' videos that might help you understand some of those things

Knowing how that stuff works will help you in the long run with trying out other builds, and even other ARPGs, a lot of the concepts are similar.

[robust jetty]

I do understand how the concepts work, I just don't want to go through all the affixes in the game and I'm sure people have done so already in previous patches.
There's just not many people going sorc now so none of the builds are popular anymore, hence I was hoping someone would know of a good one to point to

[harsh abyss]

I think a lot of folks build their own loot filters, I know I do. It's generally pretty easy to understand how to build them. Hide things you aren't looking at, enhance/color things that you're specifically looking for

[hexed path]

it's important to show rare affixes your build might want as well (like hybrid health or class-specific mods like +level of skill)

[harsh abyss]

I usually leave all class affixes as shown because I like to shatter them

[hexed path]

yea shatter the rare affixes

[robust jetty]

that's my whole question, how do I know what affixes I actually want?

I feel like my bank of runes has got to the point where I need to stop picking up / shattering all purples and just filter for the ones that matter, but I still have no clue what's actually good

[harsh abyss]

I mean, it totally depends on what you're doing. Usually +level to your skill(s) is good, but beyond that your specific build dictates what you want to see.

[robust jetty]

And my experience was that crit gave me way less damage than I'd expect, and ignite way more than I'd expect

[hexed path]

exalted main stat (probably intelligence for you) is generally good, also + level of skills for your main dmg skill is good if there's more nodes it wants

[harsh abyss]

Crit is an exponential multiplier. +100% crit multi with 5% crit chance is 5% more average damage.
100% increased crit chance with 5% base crit chance and the default 100% crit multi is also only 5% more average damage. (it will increase your crit chance by 5%)

[tight bloom]

is this better than an exalted gloves?

have this for slam

[molten cobalt]

could be

[harsh abyss]

Depends on how much you need those resists

[molten cobalt]

if you land the 2 prefixes

[harsh abyss]

with some of the new mobs, having low poison resists is a death sentence

[tight bloom]

what the second prefix other than strength?

[rugged bronze]

How do y’all get +x amount of lvl to frost claw is it an extra or is there a unique that have it like elemental nova

[harsh abyss]

The little pip on the left shows prefix, the pip on the right shows suffix

[molten cobalt]

i dont know your build, but the 25% damage delayed is big for survival, so thats why i said 2 prefixes

you'd want damage

[tight bloom]

I'm playing cleaver brand of deception

[tight bloom]

can fix res with other items

[harsh abyss]

Then I wouldn't use that exalted for those gloves. I'd look for one that has other affixes than strength that you want.

You're going to get 2, so make sure at least a couple affixes on the exalted you're going to slam with matter

[molten cobalt]

you'd want STR and DEX then

but its questionable if that unique is worth it

for that build

[tight bloom]

why dex? for plasma orb damage through fundamental criterion?

[molten cobalt]

yes

exactly that

[harsh abyss]

The main reason you'd want to use those gloves would be for crit, which brand doesn't do

[molten cobalt]

i use this

but i would prefer the base that has defense against DOT

as implicit

i dont need the 40% void res

frailty is kinda big

6% DR and can stack up to 18%

[tight bloom]

never considered using dex, on how much corruption it becomes needed?

[molten cobalt]

dunno

how high would you want to go

[frosty fox]

are there any viable disintegrate builds? im usually not a huge fan of big beam type of abilities but this one feels nice to me

[tight bloom]

400 I think, just need t7 exalted items, on 150 it's too rare

[molten cobalt]

for 400 corr you dont need dex

400 is very low though

[tight bloom]

@molten cobalt do you swap to covenant arc for bosses?

[molten cobalt]

yes

unless the boss spawns million adds

like the dragon boss

then covenant is next to useless

[tight bloom]

I thought 300 was average number, is this was in 1.0 or 1.1 and became power crept?

[molten cobalt]

in 1.0 people pushed past corruption 3000

1.1 i didnt play

but i did play 1.0

[frosty fox]

oh i was also wondering what high/average corruption was

can most builds push past 1000 then?

[stable thistle]

How i can boost my survi guys?

[harsh abyss]

Get some armor

[frosty fox]

like if i just made a disintegrate build (not sure if its good or not, just an example) would that be able to push 1000ish?

[stable thistle]

Which items is the best for armor affix?

[molten cobalt]

that armor...

[harsh abyss]

You could equip a single high level base that gives you more armor than you have now, heh. It depends on your build, but there are lots of good options. Armor is a SUPER useful stat, it helps not just against physical defense but also non-physical hits.

Overcapping your resists isn't helping you so your super high cold and poison resist are a lot of wasted stats

[frosty fox]

isnt overcapping resists technically useful if the enemies have some sort of pen/shred?

[hexed path]

doesn't matter for pen

matters in like soulfire bastion b/c enemies give you -25% all res but like usually doesn't

[frosty fox]

ahhh okay so not ever a thing to take into account, gotcha

[stable thistle]

I playing shatter build. So... Which items fit the best for armor? i have belt or head free

[harsh abyss]

Check out lastepochtools.com. You can look through the bases and uniques there to find something that fits

Use the build planner

[frosty fox]

are the builds there good to follow?

[harsh abyss]

yes

[frosty fox]

cool, ill check some out

[harsh abyss]

LE is probably best experienced by making up your own builds though

The game is very fogiving to trying things out.

[frosty fox]

yeah im trying to understand like, why builds work

like every build ive tried so far has converted their damage to a new element, is that just pretty much always best?

[harsh abyss]

Not inherently. But generally it's best to funnel all your stats into as tight of a space as you can. So if you're doing damage, you want to do one type of damage. So you might convert all your spells to lightning damage, for example.

[hexed path]

not necessarily no, though some damage types have different types of support in the tree (lightning has a ton of crit for instance)

[harsh abyss]

That way you can stack a very specific type of damage, the more specific things are, the higher rolls they generally have.

[frosty fox]

yeah that makes sense

[harsh abyss]

So things like "increased damage" are usually lower rolls than "spell damage" which is lower than "elemental damage over time"

So if you're trying to scale fire, lightning and void damage all at once, the most specific increases you can get are "spell damage" and that's not usually very efficient

[frosty fox]

by lower rolls do you literally mean like, they have a lower number than the other? like increased damage will have 10% and spell damage will have 20%?

cause i def didnt know that lol

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, like the actually roll range for "lightning damage" is higher numbers than the roll range for "elemental damage" because it's more specific

[frosty fox]

ahhhh okay, that definitely makes sense,i always wondered why the builds i follow never take just elemental damage or spell damage or something like that

[harsh abyss]

yeah

There are also some other important factors, like flat damage vs increased damage vs more damage. They all mean different things and combining them in the right way is how you get a strong build

[frosty fox]

yeah im assuming you want flat damage to an extent and then a lot of %

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, the general calculation is:

(flat damage) * (all sources of Increased damage added together) * [each source of More damage separately]

So if I have 50 flat damage, 100% increased spell damage, 50% increased fire damage, 20% more damage with this skill, and 15% more damage with this skill, the equation looks like

50 * 2.5 * 1.2 * 1.15

[frosty fox]

hmm okay i see

[harsh abyss]

And skills will have different values for damage effectiveness too, like Lightning Blast has 100% effectiveness, where Meteor has 900%. So 1 flat damage for meteor is 9x as effective as it is for lightning blast. BUT meteor is a ton of mana to cast, so that's where the balance comes in.

[frosty fox]

ahh okay, i need to take that into account too

[harsh abyss]

Different skills will be valuable in different scenarios because they have good clear, good single target, etc, and finding a good set of skills for all scenarios is how you get a strong build

[frosty fox]

so a meteor build would probably want more flat damage than % and you'd counterbalance that with mana

[harsh abyss]

As a general concept, yeah. But there's also a ton of other stuff that goes into it. Cast speed, crit chance and multi, ailment application, etc. And unique items can totally change how skills work.

That's why a lot of people use build guides, because these games can be super complex. But LE is forgiving enough in the early game that you can try stuff out and see what works without screwing yourself over.

As long as you understand some of the basics like "lightning damage make lightning spell do more damage", you can generally figure it out and it's pretty rewarding to put a build together and see how it works.

[frosty fox]

yeah crit is one of the ones where im never quite sure why crit is good on something

[harsh abyss]

Crit is complex because it's deceptively weak to start, but strong when you invest in it

[frosty fox]

critting is always good ofc but like, what makes crit great on a build vs not great

yeah for sure

[harsh abyss]

Generally, it's the most efficient way to scale damage once you reach a certain threshold.

So, with the base 5% crit chance, +100% crit multi is 5% more damage.

But if you scale your crit chance to 100%, then +100% crit multi is 100% more damage

[frosty fox]

yeah makes sense, a crit is, im assuming double the damage, and then count in multiplier and it gets crazy

yeah yeah i gotcha

[harsh abyss]

The base multiplier is 200%, yeah. But you can easily scale that up to 300-500%+ if your build works for it

Here's a good example, heh. I was feeling like I was doing too low damage in my early monoliths. So I looked at my gear and realized I hadn't actually upgraded my wand since level 31.

vs a wand that I picked up randomly off the ground

[frosty fox]

yeah i do that all the time lol, ill forget a piece and be like oh that only has like 12 health and nothing else on it, woops

[rare hedge]

Prolly a dumb question, but does +%elemental damage affect Brand of Deception? And relatedly, is there any way to actually see a damage tooltip for Brand of Deception?

[harsh abyss]

Yes it does, but I don't think there is a good way to see it

One of the nice parts about LE is that if something seems like it should affect something it usually does. Brand of Deception does lightning damage, so elemental damage should affect it

[harsh abyss]

Wow, nicely done

[placid flicker]

how is your Ele Nova build doing? i used your planner you posted earlier as a reference and i am struggling with defenses at 100 corruption, what would be good defensive options?

[harsh abyss]

It's going okay so far. My resists are hot garbage right now so I'm trying to work on that, heh

I've been thinking about "Ward gained per rune consumed by runic invocation" as an affix that the build might like. Since you're constantly hitting RI, you'll be constantly consuming runes. And I've got a T6 chest that has 133, so ~400 ward every time I consume runes with RI, on top of all the ward I get from my Intelligence

I'm also looking at potentially dropping Flame Ward for Glyph of Dominion for the resists, to solve things while I get some blessings that don't suck

[placid flicker]

ward gained per rune sounds good didnt think of that, could defo help defenses

[molten cobalt]

just made this bad boy

now im crit immune

[harsh abyss]

Also be sure to stack Intelligence as much as possible, you get 6 ward per Int whenever you invoke, so it's big.

[placid flicker]

yes i am trying hard to fit int everywhere i possibly can

currently sitting at 101 int i guess its too low

[cerulean plinth]

I'm so spoiled from playing my sentinel. I feel insanely squishy on my mage and idk how to fix it with the build I'm doing rn

[harsh abyss]

That's about where I'm at and it doesn't feel too bad. I've just had a couple deaths, but that's expected when you've got like 25 of some resists.

[placid flicker]

are you playing at 100 Corruption right now?

[cerulean plinth]

Yeah

[placid flicker]

i die every 2nd mono

[cerulean plinth]

I'm like 1.6k ehp rn....which I know isn't great

But idk how to fix it. Not being able to have a wand/catalyst kinda sucks

[molten cobalt]

is the EHP calc correct on the build tool?

[cerulean plinth]

Looking at ehp inside of le tools

[harsh abyss]

Get some of the idols that are ward retention and ward/sec. It's huge for survivability

[molten cobalt]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgDXMKRo

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (13) / Spellblade (13) / Runemaster (58)

General:

▸ Health: 1,697, Regen: 28.63/s
▸ Mana: 286.38, Regen: 15.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 374%, Regen: 114/s
▸ Attributes: 162 Str / 30 Dex / 162 Int / 12 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 92% / 133% / 100% / 145% / 73% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 339
▸ Dodge Chance: 11% (335)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,198)
▸ Block Chance: 176%, Mitigation: 24% (383)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 105%

Used skills:

Focus / Frost Wall / Flame Rush / Runic Invocation / Flame Ward

[cerulean plinth]

Trying but no luck yet. Most of idols are dedicated to res atm anyways

My ward regen is super low too

[harsh abyss]

Here's my current setup, I think I've only had one legit death so far
~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BG6GEZmQ

[placid flicker]

thank you for sharing, i will have a look

[cerulean plinth]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oyLm1zYB

This is mine atm. Just swapped to this chestplate so I'm currently fixing my res with idols

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (56) / Spellblade (27)

General:

▸ Health: 1,586, Regen: 32.6/s
▸ Mana: 346.03, Regen: 18.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 284%, Regen: 63/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 105 Int / 0 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 121% / 103% / 93% / 117% / 22% / 64% / 77%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 317
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (149)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (909)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 128%

Used skills:

Mana Strike / Frost Claw / Meteor / Flame Ward / Enchant Weapon

[cerulean plinth]

my relic rolls are awful but it's the only usable relic I have atm lol

trying to find a decent belt to slam into a 2lp harbinger

[cerulean plinth]

would slamming t7 int into a static shell be a good idea

my build isn't using static anymore

[tight bloom]

I have 3 tabs of champion/experimental items, are they strong? which affixes should I save?

[molten cobalt]

for mage not so much

the experimental mods that is

[harsh abyss]

Either Int or a level of a skill for a build. You don't need to use static for that chest to be excellent

[cerulean plinth]

gotcha

I have a max roll t7 int chest I could drop into it

[tight bloom]

will this work?

would be cool if it drops t7 Vilatria's

[cerulean plinth]

the only way I think you can get vil is by using one of the new runes to shift a t7 to it

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, that's the only way to do it since you can only craft up to T5

[grand reef]

any reason there is none of these on the market

[vapid arch]

cuz mg sucks

[tight bloom]

mages are not popular and this item is rare

[grand reef]

how much should i list it for

im stupid i had weavers will in search filter

[charred stone]

Can you get set bonus from dual wielding the same weapon? And/or a set weapon and an exalted weapon with set affix

[harsh abyss]

No

[charred stone]

Rats. Thanks

[cerulean plinth]

this game just wants me to swap to runemaster huh

maybe I should just take the hint

[molten cobalt]

success

[tight bloom]

dope

[cerulean plinth]

that's sick

[lyric yarrow]

Whats mage doin this patch?
Maxroll doesn't seem to have much and only 1 runemaster build on letools

Scopin out seeing what kinda options are available for a new chara

[molten cobalt]

there's the semi squishy spellblade meat grinder

[cerulean plinth]

speaking of which, does anyone have a glyph of dominion build

[molten cobalt]

the runemaster autobomber

the sorc lightning meteor

[rough garnet]

3 months is such a long time to have spellblade die to a breath while sentinel can afk for a minute and not die in high corruption with 0 defenses built in their items. I really hope they rethink their "no balance patch" and at least do some class buffs. It's a little too much in the other direction here.

[cerulean plinth]

yeee. my sent is chilling at 500 corr with little to no chance at dying

meanwhile my mage is struggling at 100 corr

[rough garnet]

yea it's one thing to have other classes be better than others like in most arpgs but this is egregious levels here cus of the free defenses/survavibiltiy diff its not even a damage thing

at least warlock/runemaster in 1.0 was actively building towards ward

the unkillable sentinels aren't even putting defenses in their items lmao

[lethal lagoon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALXzlyxA

ive been working on this lil frost claw/ ele nova.

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Mage (32) / Sorcerer (60) / Runemaster (21)

General:

▸ Health: 1,355, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 516.76, Regen: 16.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 152%, Regen: 104/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 56 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 291% / 195% / 219% / 115% / 133% / 116% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 271
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,359)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

Used skills:

Frost Claw / Elemental Nova / Meteor / Flame Ward / Teleport

[lethal lagoon]

still working on gear and stuff (imma change the 4 LP stuff to like a 2/3 to be more reasonable)

also dont need that much mana so i can shift some point

[cerulean plinth]

about to speedrun level another char

[remote tendon]

Hey y’all, noob here, so if I plan on running shatter strike build, when do I swap from leveling abilities to shatter strike abilities ?

Should I start using shatter strike as soon as I have access to it at 25?

[lethal lagoon]

when you get gemini passive

[remote tendon]

Ok cool thanks I appreciate it

[lethal lagoon]

you can probly swap earlier. i either suffer through leveling with the skills that i was (i do this hwen im peicing a build together) or at level 40 if i was using a dedicated leveling build

[remote tendon]

Alright , does spell blade struggle with survivability without gear ?

[lethal lagoon]

mage in general does. its innately kinda squishy. its defensive, flame shield, requires timing unlike some of the others which is just a buff

[remote tendon]

Ok cool preciate , regardless of tankiness we ball

[uneven eagle]

does the seed of ekkidrasil cover the entire mana bar? or does it also use a endurance treshold?

[lethal lagoon]

end game they get tanky whith ward/mana stacking but they just require cook time

[remote tendon]

Being in melee range probably doesn’t help either lol

[naive current]

ive never seen that stat in my life

howd you get it

[tight bloom]

it's itemised vilatria's helmet affix

the great bridge woven echo allows to shatter set items for theirs affix shards, this affix is from vilatria helmet and I used rune of havoc to make it t7

[naive current]

the shock chance per int?

[keen needle]

anyone playing a shatter strike spellblade? im playing kestrel rn, from the maxroll build but i feel like it gives mostly only movement speed (+the 3 affxies from lp).. what could i use instead, specially for bosses? wanna do uber abbertoh at some point, i can easily do abberoth alr, i feel like the only upgrade would be null portent tho, all other chests dont seem any good

[weary wagon]

i need one of these with like 2 LP

[frail hedge]

What should I roll on these?

[cerulean plinth]

Depends on your build

[frail hedge]

I dont have a mage yet

Was thinking of selling it if anything

[tight bloom]

yes

[left sable]

Will the sorcerer passive that increases dmg based on mana cost apply to the ignite damage of fireball?

[keen needle]

has there even been a single spellblade that killed uber abberoth? i have only seen runemaster

[naive current]

3

[tight bloom]

that's insane, I just discovered this woven echo

[grave sleet]

i was gonna ask about spellblade anything new to the build or same still, been wanting to paly it but haven't seen anyone

[keen needle]

im playing with the maxroll build and can kill abberoth easily in like 30s but feel like uber is gonna be impossible with my current setup

[grave sleet]

haven't checked if its the same ill take a ook now

[hearty chasm]

is disintegrate better as runemaster or sorc ?

[dire zephyr]

for like the first time ever I didn't follow a build guide and I built out a mage using disintegrate, but I got to empowered monos and im getting 1 shot very often. is my life/ward just too low?

[harsh abyss]

You gotta get that physical resistance up and get some armor. Physical damage is the most common type of damage.

Armor also protects against ALL damage, its just most effective against physical. Dont underestimate how valuable it is.

[dire zephyr]

good point I swapped out a helm and capped the phys res now

so much better omg

thank you

[peak oracle]

hmmm

am i supposed to start running null portent

the enemy damage is rough

but my own is also getting rough

[cerulean plinth]

is going an ignite build troll as runemaster if brand of deception exists

[harsh abyss]

Nah they're built totally differently

[cerulean plinth]

leveling an alt as ignite rm and it's kinda sick

[harsh abyss]

Oh yeah, especially if you have a firestarter. Its the easiest way to level by far.

[cerulean plinth]

yep

[harsh abyss]

I slappes t6 ignite chance on one, heh

[cerulean plinth]

i had t5 ignite on the exalt but it missed 😦

[velvet rover]

Hello, wanted to ask if damage dealt to mana before health works with mana efficiency

[harsh abyss]

No, but it has an inherent 5:1 ratio (5 damage takes 1 mana)

[velvet rover]

Thx, what about mana spent converted to ward?

[harsh abyss]

Nope, doesn't interact with it either, but you can stack that over 100% (so if you have 150% and spend 30 mana you get 45 ward)

[velvet rover]

I see, guess no broken interactions here xd

[harsh abyss]

Nope, they've mostly stamped those out, heh

[cerulean plinth]

why do I always get the useless skills

[queen stratus]

Anyone have any good mage builds for HC they would recommend? I was thinking glacier but u do kinda get pinned down a lot with it. However the freeze / ward gen seems strong for HC.

[slim condor]

Guys would this build work?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BgD66bxo

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Mage (34) / Spellblade (71) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 3,320, Regen: 42/s
▸ Mana: 190.28, Regen: 8.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 222%, Regen: 32/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 10 Dex / 73 Int / 5 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 201% / 76% / 91% / 88% / 88% / 100% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 664
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,235)
▸ Block Chance: 16%, Mitigation: 27% (550)

Used skills:

Flame Reave / Fireball / Enchant Weapon / Surge / Flame Ward

[cerulean plinth]

@harsh abyss is there still a way to pop ignites like you used to do with enchant weapon?

[harsh abyss]

uhh, IDK actually

[cerulean plinth]

looks like you can still use enchant weapon to do that

[junior coral]

good build for a real gamer or just streamer nonsense?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PiTDJ4IWgE&t=666s

[harsh abyss]

Dr3ad usually does a good job showing the negatives as well as the positives of his builds

[junior coral]

have a hard time finding a decent affordable build

so was looking at more weird stuff

[cerulean plinth]

does leech from ele damage apply to ignite

[harsh abyss]

It does if it doesn't specify "hits"

[cerulean plinth]

makes sense

[harsh abyss]

Or melee, obviously

[cerulean plinth]

cursed leveling gear lol

[harsh abyss]

So the Avarice gloves or the Lavamancer node would work on ignites (or other fire DoTs

[cerulean plinth]

o dang i forgot about lavamancer

ty

[harsh abyss]

Leveling gear at 99% effectiveness:

[cerulean plinth]

gigachad

I think with this guy I'm gonna say screw ward and go full hp/endurance/leech

[solemn viper]

Swap fireball for firebrand or mana strike and it works

[harsh abyss]

I'm gonna make my mana stacking mana guide build I think, I'm tired of seeing all these mana guide builds that don't do that

[solemn viper]

Swap the relic as well, soul fire works best, your passives need some work tho

[cerulean plinth]

oh god is burning avarice gloves really that rare

[dusk grail]

anyone tried a build with this item? Looks kinda cool but idrk how it'd go

[next lance]

That's cause we stacking strength

[waxen locust]

I absolutely love frozen sentinel's str stacking auto bomber but single target is bad and I can't force myself to respec a skill just to do a boss. any solutions to this?

[next lance]

I've been playing it all day. Just respec the skills lol

[waxen locust]

but I don't get to assign points immediately. I need to play a bit, get the points then put them elswhere then when I'm done with the boss do the reverse. it's just tedious

[next lance]

It just doesn't perform as well on bigger bosses. You can kind of get away with not but man it's slow

[next lance]

I've always got 4 points to play with and they come back the first non boss echo

[waxen locust]

yeah. i tried different builds. the one from bigdaddy is cool as well but the plasma orb is so much fun

I'll try get used to it

[next lance]

Are you spending all 22 points in flame and ice wall?

Flame dash or rush or whatever lol

[waxen locust]

yeah. and that's my problem, isn't it?

[next lance]

For fast switching yeah.

[waxen locust]

thanks for the hints mate!

[next lance]

You just don't need to spend those points. Those skills don't do your damage

Np! I have been having a ton of fun with it. Was messing around with Nova before that and then switched over this morning.

[waxen locust]

yeah u are absolutely right. I'm slow sometimes so I just never realized it 🙂

[next lance]

I think the most annoying thing to farm for that build was all the dang shock on hit idols. So. Many. Cemeteries.

[waxen locust]

yeah, but the new idols are fire

love em

one difference in my build is that I use a staff

but hear me out

so I think it's all good

I'm wondering if I should get greedy and re-roll the affixes 🙂

[unreal blade]

use lightning flame rush to proc brand for aoe clear, use LCL lightning web for single target

clear will be worse, but manageable. single target will be greatly improved

[waxen locust]

yeah, but this too requires a respec, no?

[unreal blade]

not for bossing

lightning web is the same damage unless you stack the covenant buff

[fervent ledge]

Why do all the decent mage builds this season feel like people are cobbling together the scraps of somethings

And then still can't do Uber abberoth or super high corr

[harsh abyss]

Eh, mages are kind of on the bottom of the pile right now

[fervent ledge]

Like I saw that new dread video Sorc build

Whole lot of hoops for a whole lot of nothing

[cerulean plinth]

that's just kinda how it be as mage atm

[fervent ledge]

I guess the only good thing about that Sorcs build it's possibly cheap. Maybe

[cerulean plinth]

idk I only play cof

it probably is

[fervent ledge]

I'm MG, big mistake

Basically can't ever play red ring builds

[harsh abyss]

Join us in COF, enjoy the relaxing nothingness

[fervent ledge]

For int brand builds what is the highest dps brand enabler

[cerulean plinth]

I wish they'd let us skip the first 2 quests of normal monos once we do it on one char

[fervent ledge]

Plasma orb?

[tough kettle]

Just beat abberoth with ignite fire claw build is pushing much harder than I expected

[cerulean plinth]

nice

mind sharing your planner?

[honest sentinel]

what's the usual affix people go for when they use this?

[tough kettle]

I’ll make sure to grab it for you tomorrow got off for the night after abberoth

[tough kettle]

Not too sure I’d guess like mana/%mana?

[cerulean plinth]

I only ask because I'm also working on an ignite build, but it's not frost claw

only started it like....4 hours ago?

[tough kettle]

Oh nice man what is the main skill you are using?

[cerulean plinth]

atm I'm using glyph of dominion

[tired aurora]

Is there some way to increase my mana cost of my Lightning Blast from 12 mana to 15 mana?

[full bluff]

If you are using a wand, switch to daggers

[tight bloom]

4 points in node that gives chains and no -mana cost on weapon

[tired aurora]

ah i got -mana cost on weapon

thanks guys

[full bluff]

Testing orbiting static orb but there is something weak about it, it only hits once per cast? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je8KIBLJ_s8

[tribal pivot]

Does mage have a build where you just go around and nova everything?

Not asking for a guide or anything

Just if anyone has done it

[half pollen]

Covenant will always win this

[weary hamlet]

it shouldnt unless they broke it in this patch

[half pollen]

Because all invocation deal the same amount of damage regarding Brand. And covenant gives extra shock chance

[weary hamlet]

played so/static last patch and the orbiting so was working fine

[half pollen]

I play orbiting SO this patch and it works like always

[full bluff]

Maybe I cast too fast and they don't get time to orbit?

I shouldn't spam them non-stop...

[weary hamlet]

sure there is a limit for a reason

[full bluff]

Changed out the mana cost reduction, with mana refund on LB and alternating, works great.

No more frost claw I think for the spark build 🙂

This feels much more fluid to play

[scenic dock]

lets gooooooo

[full bluff]

Does the refund triggers for static orb - lightning blast stack up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFbRUisBOno can get the mana sustain going but I struggle a bit with timing stuff when it is so fast 🙂

[half pollen]

Sadly no

[upper mason]

do you think runebolt is playablle or is it a pipe dream buiild?

[full bluff]

It can be a good mana generator, so pair it with a high damage invocation or skill

Hold down both and it will cast rune bolt when out of mana, and damage skill when you have mana

For example shot gun with static orb, high cast speed from aegis..

[molten cobalt]

how's running a dungeon with the scale charm?

in terms of farming exalteds

[full bluff]

Did one run and got anoyed at chasing them 🙂

but that was with paladin, probably easier chase with sorcerer

[molten cobalt]

chasing?

they die rather fast

how many in one dungeon would you say?

[half pollen]

You have one of the best builds to kill loot lizards

When you actually need to hit them they can be a little tedious

[molten cobalt]

makes sense i guess

[half pollen]

They are a breeze for my Brand build but can take a while with my reowyns build even though my reownys build does a lot more damage

[languid ridge]

I've added a point into Mana Cleave and I've noticed the horrible delay on mana gain after attacking, is that a bug maybe? Nothing in the skills description indicates there would be such a delay

[buoyant creek]

Is it real? Another Firebrand user?

You use Firebrand as main dps?

[stable thistle]

Any runemaster plasma enjoyer?

[half pollen]

sry, I talk about Brand of deception

[whole garnet]

Hi, can "Triple Strike" for Firebrand shotgun?

[buoyant creek]

Noooooo

Damn it everyone's using that build

[buoyant creek]

Nah it doesn't overlap

[half pollen]

I use some mana strikes in my reowyns build, so I at least use some melee stuff

[junior coral]

Whats the best build atm that doesn't use red rings?

[half pollen]

Doesnt use as in "red rings isnt best in slot" or doesnt use as in "doesnt require red rings to function"

[junior coral]

bis

Or at least still very good without them

[half pollen]

Well then you want a build that doesnt stack any stats. So some mana stacker

No clue what spellblade is up to these days

[junior coral]

no lightnign brand?

[half pollen]

You can play static orb mana stacker brand

Which is what I do, but its worse than strength stacker

[junior coral]

Does static orb apply the largest brand in that build vs plasma orb?

[half pollen]

Yeah, static orb is the Brand applier there, no runic invocation damage

[molten cobalt]

to be fair brand of deception works just fine without red rings

[half pollen]

RI is used to stack shock chance with the covenant invocation

[half pollen]

Yeah, but they are bis for the build

[molten cobalt]

damage wise this is just as good

BUT you dont have the DR or res

res you can get elsewhere pretty easily

so it comes down to the DR

[junior coral]

hmm ill try that

[half pollen]

Whats your issue with Red rings though?

[molten cobalt]

no issue

i use one myself

[half pollen]

Just Spam some ring prophecies and you have em soon

[half pollen]

I mean the guy who doesnt want to use Red rings

[molten cobalt]

i got plenty of no lp ones

but only 1 turned into lp

[half pollen]

Yeah I still need LP ones

[molten cobalt]

with imprinting in weaver tree red rings are easier than ever

out of the 9 red rings i have found thus far only 2 have been from a prophecy

[junior coral]

I'm merchants guild thats the reason I'm even asking 😄

[molten cobalt]

MG has imprinting too..

just need the first one

[junior coral]

yeah thatas the issue

[molten cobalt]

how much to buy one

[junior coral]

i think 69million 0 lp

[molten cobalt]

the cheapest possible

[half pollen]

But shouldnt they be cheap then? When everyone can imprint them?

[molten cobalt]

a failed egg one

[molten cobalt]

dunno, but i have found 7 from imprinting and only 2 from prophecies

[junior coral]

guess the drop rate is too low to imprint in the first place

for mg

[molten cobalt]

maybe MG struggle with finding the first one to begin with

honestly I'd buy one and then imprint it in every spot possible and start selling them

69million isnt much though

not for MG

[half pollen]

I have 1000 hours played and 3 million to my Name in legacy

69 million sounds impossible to me

[molten cobalt]

i have 8 million this league alone

on CoF

and i dont even loot stuff to sell

but let's put it into perspective

there's this age old trading forum, the one who shall not be named

[junior coral]

hmm ill keep farming gold then. just wondering what build to farm it in for RR. Ill try INT Brand

how high can Int brand go?

[molten cobalt]

69m is nothing there

[junior coral]

yeah the prices of things rae going up higher than the rate at which i make gold i gotta maybe play more

[molten cobalt]

thats always the case of MG

[junior coral]

and im not playing sentinel or whatever so its slower

[molten cobalt]

many people are trading stuff between games, which of course isnt allowed, but it is still widely practiced

so they start a new league or whatnot with a massive trading power

CoF is just better than MG

in every way

well, no

MG beats CoF in getting exalted bases

but thats it

[junior coral]

Can you imprint exalted bases to print those

[molten cobalt]

sort of

you can for example imprint a 2 exalted helmet and end up getting lots of 2 exalted helmets

but might be wrong base and 2x t6 instead of 2x t7

and the mods are not imprinted

so you still need to roll it with those new runes

and most will get bricked

and you cant select which exalted mod gets rerolled with the rune, so even if you land t7 of your desired mod, that too will get rerolled when you try and alter the other one

[full bluff]

Static Orb in orbit mode is really wonderful for lower corruption farming 🙂

[junior coral]

has any brand build killed uber abberoth

[molten cobalt]

i shall try soon enough

non uber was stupidly easy

[full bluff]

Trying to be a judgement paladin at low mana https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKsVgVc7tI

[junior coral]

which brand build you use?