🧙┃mage

[glad marten]

Spark charge is great for skills with otherwise bad clear, because it will one-shot trash. And it's respectable add to single target, too

[fallen wren]

yea, for multiple/quick hits

[glad marten]

But anyway, yeah, staves are outshined big time by wands, at least in part because unique staves all suck for sorc/runemaster

[fallen wren]

frost bolt can be specced that 1 cast adds 4 spark charges

and it aoe one shots trash with enigma

[glad marten]

I'm playing disintegrate and it's a bummer that I'm using a staff but I'm literally hiding all unique staves because they do nothing

[fallen wren]

though I only go 600-700c, but mainly the problem is tankiness, not damage

for me at least

[sour panther]

I think aergon is a staff that can be good

[fallen wren]

I hate that channeling does not trigger a lot of stuff

[sour panther]

10% dr on a staff is huge, got good flat spell dmg, almost every mage build uses flameward as well

20 int is really good as well

[fallen wren]

healing hands would be fantastic if it machine gunned divine bolts for example 🙂

[glad marten]

Channeling does, but damage over time does not

Got nothing to do with channeling

[fallen wren]

channeling does not trigger stuff that triggers on direct use

only once, when you start channeling

and a lot of juicy stuff requires direct skill usage

[glad marten]

I think that one would be worth it for me with 3 LP

But build is not fire

[glad marten]

That's true!

[fallen wren]

why does it matter for aergon? you "only" miss tha mana gained as ward (which looks really good), the rest is still decent, like the 10% less dmg

or the +10-20 int

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, Aergon's is the best unique staff, but needs LP to be usable and is pretty rare with high LPL

for generic spellcasting anyway

[fallen wren]

if there is an unlimited trigger fire trigger spell, the +20% mana as ward gained could be decent

like if you can trigger it 5+ time/sec, and have 2k mana, we are talking about some significant recovery there

[nimble shoal]

Do triggered skills work for Aergon's ward gain?

The wording is pretty old and doesn't explicitly say it needs to be a direct cast, but it just seems like one of those effects that would require a direct cast

[fallen wren]

yea, that is why I thought it would work with triggered stuff

but I might be wrong

also, it is still a lot of missed offensive stats

once I used up my harbinger eyes, I might check if I can make it work somehow

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, it's basically just a juiced staff base for a legendary craft. Outside of the int, it offers basically nothing offensively compared to a white staff lol

[fallen wren]

frostguard+that staff+flame ward+1k mana+maybe the regen thrown in from runemaster sounds like a decent start 😄

unfortunately I only seem to have 1 staff without LP, that is not very useful

[queen mason]

@warped crow which point from Meteor let you believe it should the sorcerer exclusive skill?

[tough nymph]

hi there! is glacier good starter skill?

[sour panther]

prolly the best for leveling

and also viable later

[tough nymph]

sounds good, thanks 🙂

[fallen wren]

I have been playing for quite some time before the 1.0 release, but I always remember Meteor being the sorcerer's mastery skill

I think sorcerer was released that way

[queen mason]

What i'm surprised is the skill isn't volcanic orb haha

[fallen wren]

for a long time there was only spellblade and sorcerer

[queen mason]

That's the skill which compared with fireball in the famous video, why diablo players hate le

[fallen wren]

and the former was supposed to be more melee oriented, the latter ranged (also I vaguely remember some stuff that worked at certain range or scaled with range, but I might be incorrect on this)

[fallen wren]

not sure if they do hate LE, and not sure if it matters at all...

I played an extreme amount of d3 (between 5-10k hours), a good amount of D4, but now I actually prefer LE

[queen mason]

Mike said Meteor is the favourite skill for Judd. Do you know why

[fallen wren]

no idea 🙂

I don't like these spiky, delayed damage skills, I did not enjoy glacier either

it is interesting though that it has 62k sheet damage without specialization, while I use frost claw for clearing (along with spark charges), and that only has 11k, so it might actually be good

[queen mason]

Static orb is later than Meteor to release then it suppose better than Meteor without doubt

[fallen wren]

not sure if it was released later

in the past there was a sorcerer build that worked with orbit, and it was decent

I actually used it with orbit recently, and it is still decent

[nimble shoal]

Probably part nostalgia for D2, but probably liked it in D2 because some people just find that kind of playstyle satisfying. The gathering of a bunch of enemies and exploding them all at once.

[warped crow]

because its litterally the most expensive skill to cast ... double the cost of glacier ... and thats sorcs entire thing

mana stuff

also i never said it should be

just said that yours shouldnt either

[queen mason]

Because...Static orb is expensive on mana cost too?

[warped crow]

if anything arcane ascendance should be there but i cant think of an ascendancy with a support skill as a main

actually wait

i can

owo pally

forgot pally existed for a sec

[queen mason]

yeah it must a high mana cost for high damage I suppose

I don't know what pally is. Touch the game since 1.0

[warped crow]

holy aura? the buff skill that is always active but you get double its effect for a short time when you actually cast it

[queen mason]

? No skill call holy aura

[warped crow]

i said pally ... paladain

as another char with a support ability for a main skill

so it might be ok for sorc to move arcane ascendance as its main

[queen mason]

oh then the thing become more interesting and complex haha

[warped crow]

i mean i think its already locked behind 30 points so other masteries cant get it

so nothing would change from the perspective of spellblade/runemaster

[queen mason]

And only four skills available on paladain's passive tree

[warped crow]

yeeeee oof

[warped crow]

one of the chars has a few base skills missing too sadge

more skills would be nice xD

just to fill in the gaps ofc for paths missing them

for now at least

[proper hawk]

The tooltip dps can't calculate spark charge damage, so no it won't be even close

[fallen wren]

yea, and frost claw hits 3-4 times

and it has amazing range too

[unreal umbra]

gz. didn't have time to try and beat this. might have a window of opportunity to have one attempt tonight but havent played the sorc in a while

[waxen sigil]

@tepid barn @unreal umbra when does arena close boards for reset ???

Idk might bust out the ol dusty mage lvl97 to take it back from the necros like the ancient times

[unreal umbra]

i think its about roughly 16 hours from now

[sour trellis]

I use a -3 wrongwarp to keep mana above 40 and trigger elemental nova with frostclaw . My spark charge is around 60k flat dmg .

Clear monos very quickly I love it .

[novel latch]

looking for advice for my FC sorc. i technically also use static orb but only have ~1k mana so it's not really a high use skill atm. i'm still grinding gear for the build, but realise about 200 corruption is sorta where I'm comfortable. going above 200, i find that i die too quickly, and also cant do enough damage to finish off bosses.

Current stats: 1.1k hp, 976 mana, 59 int

Gear: wrongwarp (1 lp no slam), Unstable core (legendary but crap slam), prismatic gaze (crap slam), strong mind +mana, fragment of enigma (crap slam), 2x julra/phantom grip, mana regen belt (still farming abom for strand of souls), blood of the exile +health, stormcarved testament (crap slam), 12 int glove, 3x mana/armor idols (7%, 10%, 11%)

Question is - aside from getting strand of souls, what are my other obvious paths to improvements?

[unreal umbra]

without being able to look at your planner, the only advice i can give is dont get roped into using uniques just coz they are uniques instead of using a good exalted with a t7 int roll, or just good exalts in general with well rounded stats that help. also make sure that your fc cost is over 40.0

[novel latch]

is there a site i can upload my current items/build to share? (edit: nevermind found maxroll, doing it now and will share)

[unreal umbra]

yeah www.lastepochtools.com

you should be able to do it in 20 seconds, no manual inputs required

[novel latch]

ah mmm, i have to create an account to upload/share. will need some time to do this

[unreal umbra]

whats your le account name?

[novel latch]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVLd52lB
Done it now!

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (64) / Runemaster (24)

General:

▸ Health: 1,127, Regen: 19.3/s
▸ Mana: 1,129.29, Regen: 20.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 215%, Regen: 146/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 10 Dex / 59 Int / 7 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 52% / 84% / 113% / 43% / 40% / 47% / 102%
▸ EHP: 1,341 / 1,650 / 1,650 / 1,332 / 1,144 / 1,207 / 1,544

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 225
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,515)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 52%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (21)
• Arcane Ascendance (20)
• Static Orb (22)
• Teleport (20)
• Focus (20)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Unstable Core
• Wrongwarp
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Blood of the Exile
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Strong Mind
• Stormcarved Testament

[unreal umbra]

is your static orb doing enough dmg to one shot bosses right now? the fc/so build is more of a late game build once you have all your gear sorted, doesn't really work that well unless you have the gear to support. until then you're better off focusing on pure frostclaw which means int rolls everywhere, spec out of static orb/focus and into meteor as a generator

[novel latch]

No, it isn't really doing enough to burst down bosses. I could try going into meteor as the generator instead

So i guess that's where I'm hurt, being an in between state and not quite there yet

[fallen wren]

1. I still use exalted helm and chest for the build, you should consider that too
2. it is ok to switch gear for bosses, I usually switch my enigma and my amulet out for bosses

[novel latch]

That's an interesting idea. What stats do you prioritise for exalted helm/chest/catalyst?

[fallen wren]

atm I use this, https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3kLWayo, and while it is no means optimal, it is just enough to "one-shot" (kill in 1 volley of static orbs) Aberroth

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (22) / Sorcerer (61) / Runemaster (30)

General:

▸ Health: 1,044, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 2,114.06, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 469%, Regen: 265/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 11 Dex / 104 Int / 7 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 78% / 115% / 125% / 75% / 73% / 79%
▸ EHP: 1,235 / 1,382 / 1,382 / 1,533 / 1,264 / 1,239 / 1,382

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 239
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,222)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Ward (20)
• Frost Claw (20)
• Static Orb (23)
• Frost Wall (20)
• Focus (21)

Used unique items:

• Wrongwarp
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Julra's Stardial
• Phantom Grip
• The Confluence of Fate
• Stormcarved Testament

[novel latch]

Thanks! I'll take a look

[fallen wren]

I am still running monos without crit resistance 😄

[novel latch]

Same haha just armor and reduced crit dmg

[fallen wren]

only from the tree

but that is not good 🙂

on yours, I would definitely swap prismatic gaze for one arcane visage, get something on your wrongwarp (with nemesis)

until recently, I have not used phantom grips (and no julra's rings either), still do not use strong mind (I swap in omnis + enigma for monos)

also, I started this build to 1 shot t4 julra, I could do that around 1200 mana, by that time, I could easily 1 shot any timeline boss as well (without being close to crit capped)

also, it might be wrong, but I found speccing flame ward + frost wall instead of teleport + arcane ascendance is better, especially for monos, but not bad for bossing either. you get decent defensive buff, added + increased spell damage (flame ward), and a more multiplier (frost wall) that way. this is my personal preference, I am not arguing this is optimal by any means

[tepid barn]

Time to wake up😆

[novel latch]

My wrongwarp has 1 lp so I can't do anything with it until I get a good wand drop and try to slam

[novel latch]

What corruption did you test till? I'm still trying to go through ~250 corruption but struggling with this build

[fallen wren]

I think I played around 200-250 initially

with the linked build, I farm 600-650, the damage is plenty, the problem is tankiness

[novel latch]

Mmm thanks for the info

Yeah farming monoliths is easy. But bosses/harbingers are very tough

[fallen wren]

for me, lastepochtools did not show lp

[novel latch]

Just randomly get one shot with a small mistake lol

[fallen wren]

I switched off the harbs 🙂

especially the bad ones, there are ones that are easy

there is nothing really you need from them for this build at least

I would also swap some blessings if possible, like the all resists from the dragon, armor from heorot

possibly crit multi from rahyeh (and swapping the gloves to void res gloves with mana+int+armor shred)

[queen mason]

Your wrongwrap gives so much mana

[fallen wren]

yes, got lucky with that one

wasted some before 🙂

[queen mason]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdDabwpQ I can't use wrongwap because it will cause frost claw cost less than 40 mana. And I want more crit multiplier... 🤔 I go to stack intelligence as the alternative because of this reason.

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 99

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (63) / Runemaster (29)

General:

▸ Health: 1,235, Regen: 19.86/s
▸ Mana: 1,483.47, Regen: 18.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 536%, Regen: 223/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 12 Dex / 140 Int / 9 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 117% / 113% / 95% / 75% / 118% / 64%
▸ EHP: 1,737 / 1,737 / 1,737 / 2,001 / 1,737 / 1,737 / 1,565

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 247
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,721)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 18% (198)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (24)
• Flame Ward (24)
• Teleport (20)
• Focus (20)
• Static Orb (24)

Used unique items:

• Peak of the Mountain
• Unstable Core
• Triboelectra
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Blood of the Exile
• Stormcarved Testament

[queen mason]

So far what I lack only is it's not a lv.100 class yet :)

Trying to keep updating my gears but the progress is very slow

[fallen wren]

you can spec out of gift of winter, then you can use wrongwarp

[queen mason]

yeah but then I can't cast lightning damage

[fallen wren]

??

[fallen wren]

what lightning damage?

[fallen wren]

that's fine, most of your damage comes from spark charges, not frost claw itself I think (I used to use that node too, did not make a huge difference speccing out of it), also, by having low spell crit, you might not be making the most out of your crit multi

also, I not sure if a good exalted crystal wand would not be better than triboelectra

[queen mason]

🤔 hah so it's not relevant to it's a lightning skill or not?! Let me try

[queen mason]

The dps after i use wrongwrap lol

Why its damage down so much

[novel latch]

Yeah I haven't been farming blessings properly yet

[novel latch]

I was thinking of farming the ring from the harbinger at reign of dragons

[fallen wren]

you can swap them for 10k gold

[novel latch]

But he's such a pain in the ass to fight lol

[queen mason]

I guess then it's a good chance to play meteor instead of static orb after I don't need to limit on lightning damage

[fallen wren]

what ring does that harbinger drop??

[novel latch]

I haven't even finished most of the empowered mono yet since I've been focused on the belt

[novel latch]

Flames of midnight

[queen mason]

I guess he want to say flame of midnight from spirit of fire

[novel latch]

It's mainly for mobility

And also to counter the random teleport from wrongwarp

But yeah I think maybe it's time to do a few switches to my build while I farm items

[fallen wren]

that comes from the spirits of fire harbinger, not the reign of dragons, also, what fire spell are you using? if you only want the ring for the swiftness, you are better off with other items for it (like the crab ring, that at least gives all attributes and armor), or potentially the gloves (viable endgame choice with 3-4LP)...

[novel latch]

Oops wrong mono name my bad. Which glove are you referring to? My gloves could be changed too

[fallen wren]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAsGYFYE4g

[novel latch]

ahhh nice suggestion thank you, let me try to see what i can do with my items

[fallen wren]

and that ring imo is a waste for sorcerers, I'd rather take a decent exalted (unless you have one with 3-4 LP, but again, I would still slam it for one of my warlocks)

[fallen wren]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCcGYDZiA

that ring is much better imo, if you really want swiftness, but again, I think it is reasonable to use either 1 LP julra rings, good exalted rings, or phantom rings if needed for crit capping

[novel latch]

yeah i have 3x 1lp julra rings, just not slammed yet

[fallen wren]

even without slam, they are decent (for echoes, good exalteds are smoother though), with t6-7 spell damage or int slam they are good (I discard the 60- spell damage rolls though)

[novel latch]

i have seen a bunch of those crab rings, but none with LP so far

[fallen wren]

you can try the nemesis and see if you get lucky

[novel latch]

true. i should pick a few and try to test

i will have to rework my loot filter quite a bit

thanks for the suggestions!

[fallen wren]

and really, farming the midnight ring is 1. pain (that is among the worst boss/harbinger combinations) 2. you are not likely to get high LP, so you are ending up with a ring with swiftness + 1 random attribute, not very good imo, a good exalted can give you 4 useful attributes

[novel latch]

it not just swiftness, the way that i saw it used with disintegrate for fast running through monos look very enticing

but yes

that harbinger is bloody difficult lol

[fallen wren]

julra rings have specific use to give you a good 4 sec burst window, so they are not really for mono clearing (though I have been using them for a long time being lazy to swap them out), so I'd say for starters your best bet is just plain exalted rings, then phantom grips with 1-3LP, they are fairly common

[novel latch]

i have 2x phantom grip and 3x julra, maybe i'll do 1 of each for a balance

[fallen wren]

but disintegrate has the option of being fire spell, so it can spawn a ghost, you are not using any fire spells are you?

[novel latch]

yes just using disintegrate for the sake of spawning a ghost to teleport. but that was an idealistic end game view

[fallen wren]

when you have 100-120%+ move speed, you are not that pressured to teleport

is moving the actual limitation of your clear speed?

[novel latch]

no just qol lol

so its not my main aim

i have been spending a large majority of my time trying to get strand of souls

[fallen wren]

yea, don't worry about that for now 🙂

also, strand of souls might not be that exceptional either imo to deserve being high priority

the mana spent gained as ward is not super significant, the ward retention isn't that big either

[novel latch]

building more ward faster i think would be helpful when fighting bosses

[fallen wren]

chains of uleros can be a worthy option, or again, the trusty "good exalted" can be the solution

[novel latch]

or maybe i just cast teleport too much lol

[fallen wren]

but it is not significant amount of ward

you get much more out of your passive

again, by no means it is a bad item, it just should not be a priority at your gear level imo

it is kind of a "luxury" item

[novel latch]

hmmm

so it seems like my gloves should be a faster fix

and helm?

[fallen wren]

also, can you effortlessly kill t4 julra?

because slamming the belt requires that

for helm and chest, I still use exalteds, and I have much more advanced gear

[novel latch]

i havent tried t4 julra yet tbh

i should give it a shot to test

[fallen wren]

if you have some level 75+ item that needs slammign you should try it

[novel latch]

yeah i got the unstable core by luck from a prophecy, and the slam was just from nemesis

[fallen wren]

I discarded a lot of cores

[novel latch]

its time to go check out what prophecies i can get then

[fallen wren]

it could be bad as it removed 2 skill points, also, wrongwarp gives damage based on movement speed, and it gives a strong buff after you teleport, but that damage seems like a bad joke 🙂

[fallen wren]

as a priority, I would try to get a good exalted helm (arcane visage with static orb +3-4 + mana or int + resists you need ideally) or at least a prismatic gaze with +4% crit and a better slam if you insist using that, but I found that having at least +3 for static orb is quite beneficial

[novel latch]

thanks for the tips

[fallen wren]

also, +3 static orb automatically comes with +80%ish spell damage, which is also useful

[novel latch]

that is true. time for farming

[novel latch]

heh i got a 1lp prismatic gaze drop, and 3 exalted drops in 1 run thanks to prophecies. now should i try to slam with +4 static orb or 16 int hmmm

[sour trellis]

Well if you want to use it for bosses I would go +4 static orb . I have a +4 crit gaze and +4 static orb on mine which gives me around 2m flat static orb dmg .

My other setup gets me around 2.5m flat static orb dmg for aberroth

[novel latch]

wow awesome

well, i tried and failed lol

got mana on it :/

[sour trellis]

You’ll find another soon , pretty easy if you are cof to get another

[novel latch]

yeah just gotta stack dem prophecies

[sour trellis]

I just keep all the 0lp ones I find and give to nemesis until he gives me a 2lp before I try to slam

Also if you have a +4 static orb helm try to duplicate it as they are are to find

[novel latch]

ah poop i didnt lmao

well i will remember to do that next time

[sour trellis]

I think all season I only found 3 or 4 +4 static or be exhaled helms

[queen mason]

Struggling on which skill is the best "one-shot" skill by trial and error....
what I can confirm is black hole and ice barrage is bad at insane damage

I want to go the cold damage direction (so increase cold damage/ increase freeze rate multiplier)

I has no idea how to deal with meteor because it's a fire skill which for aoe rather than single target. Its damage is excellent but too distant from enemies always because they'll move

[queen mason]

And due to this reason I passed glacier because I agree with it

😵 Do I have to go back to static orb...

[fringe grove]

Is there any good spellblade that isnt using enigma/spark? so more like a real attacker?

[glass tinsel]

@waxen seal I want to check out your build

How are you balance intelligence and mana

[waxen seal]

Haven't played in a while lol so il just follow one on yt lol

Shud be easy with all extra loot we ganna get tho

[fallen wren]

which is the good spellblade build that is using enigma/spark?

[fringe grove]

that is the only version of a spellblade build i can find online 😅

[midnight pine]

Plenty ^^, shatter strike in frostbite or Crit, mana strike with LB and frostclaw trigger frostbite or Crit, firebrand with frostclaw in ignite or Crit with meteor or flamme reave

[glass tinsel]

If you need to clear echoes, frost claw is the first choice so it mean intelligence more important than mana.
If you need to target bosses, you need enough intelligence to support overall damage too because static orb take insane amount of mana so frost claw is an alt to go on you output

[waxen seal]

They both scales with same stuff and frost claw must cost 40 mana per cast

[glass tinsel]

I mean I don't know why people just care about mana nor both of mana and intelligence

More intelligence more damage

And do this build suppose to aoe more or single target more

[waxen seal]

Cuss the passive on tree makes mana more immportent lol

[fallen wren]

but what is the build? I might want to check it out... what is the definitive source to find builds? there are a lot on maxroll, or are those outdated/garbage?

[waxen seal]

Well shall see how it gose lol it's more or end game build anyway

[glass tinsel]

Then why this build need intelligence too nor just all resources go to mana

[fallen wren]

because you can have both?

[glass tinsel]

So I ask how to balance them. You want mana means stack intelligence harder and vice versa. Focus on single target is easier than balance double targets.

And you need more critical strike multiplier and crit chance at the same time without ignoring resistance

[fallen wren]

there is nothing stopping you from switching gear for bosses

[glass tinsel]

Oh so the solution is craft double sets, one of them for mana and the other one for intelligence?

Then these YouTubers are amazing on owning a set of gear which perfect balanced both of them...

[fallen wren]

not sure, it depends on the build

[rough minnow]

Can you turn any Mage spell into necrotic or void damage type?

by some item or interaction?

[fallen wren]

but for example, I use this atm to farm echoes: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oNLVPJWQ
and I used this to farm aberroth: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3kLWayo

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (22) / Sorcerer (61) / Runemaster (30)

General:

▸ Health: 1,162, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,843.46, Regen: 24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 472%, Regen: 268/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 11 Dex / 109 Int / 7 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 90% / 126% / 136% / 76% / 86% / 70%
▸ EHP: 1,562 / 1,562 / 1,562 / 1,749 / 1,562 / 1,562 / 1,492

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 262
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,346)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 12% (98)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Ward (23)
• Frost Claw (22)
• Static Orb (26)
• Frost Wall (22)
• Focus (23)

Used unique items:

• Wrongwarp
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Julra's Stardial
• Phantom Grip
• Nihilis
• Stormcarved Testament

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (22) / Sorcerer (61) / Runemaster (30)

General:

▸ Health: 1,044, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 2,114.06, Regen: 27.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 469%, Regen: 265/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 11 Dex / 104 Int / 7 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 78% / 115% / 125% / 75% / 73% / 79%
▸ EHP: 1,235 / 1,382 / 1,382 / 1,533 / 1,264 / 1,239 / 1,382

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 239
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 27% (1,222)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Ward (20)
• Frost Claw (20)
• Static Orb (23)
• Frost Wall (20)
• Focus (21)

Used unique items:

• Wrongwarp
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Julra's Stardial
• Phantom Grip
• The Confluence of Fate
• Stormcarved Testament

[fallen wren]

and yes, if you have gear that is really good, you do not need to switch, but that is not easy to get, also lower corruption timeline bosses can be killed with the echo farming gear usually

[faint heart]

Can run 1k+ corruption + bosses and kill Abby in seconds.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owkjWgXo

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (67) / Runemaster (26)

General:

▸ Health: 962, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 2,079.21, Regen: 21.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 386%, Regen: 275/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 11 Dex / 90 Int / 7 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 40% / 16% / 80% / 56% / 28% / 17% / 17%
▸ EHP: 974 / 901 / 1,433 / 1,261 / 823 / 766 / 834

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 192
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,577)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Swiftness

Used skills:

• Static Orb (24)
• Teleport (20)
• Focus (20)
• Frost Claw (22)
• Arcane Ascendance (20)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• The Confluence of Fate
• Unstable Core
• Wrongwarp
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Julra's Stardial
• Phantom Grip
• Blood of the Exile
• Stormcarved Testament
• Fingers of the Phantom Mire

[fallen wren]

that is some really high-end gear 🙂

[faint heart]

The gear is mostly easy to get if you're CoF, it's the slams that are pain in the butt. With the exception of prismatic gaze. Took me forever to get a 2lp.

[fallen wren]

slams are part of the gear...

and I don't see them dropping a lot even with 1 or 0LP

and to get a good slam as well, and 4% crit

[faint heart]

Yeah, Prismatic Gaze was definitely the hardest.

[fallen wren]

but also, 2 LP ammy, 3 LP off-hand and wand

all with decent/good slams

I am not sure if I will ever get such good gear

[faint heart]

Those aren't so hard with CoF really, I've had about 3-6 drop of each I think.

[fallen wren]

I farmed that boss a lot, and haven't seen any

[faint heart]

Rahyeh?

[fallen wren]

only saw 1 testament with 2 LP also

yea

and the boots are not common with 2 LP either

and to get the good slams, it is likely one needs more than one

anyway, I think that is really good gear

[faint heart]

Gotta use eggs for the testament...mines still 1lp, I've wrecked 3 2lps. Gotta do Rahyeh at 300 corruption I think to start seeing more amulets.

[fallen wren]

I semi wrecked 1 2 LP testament, and saw a lot of Rahyeh amulets, just not 2 LP

I think my next priority should be helm and chest anyway, still using exalted there

but the build already did its purpose, used up all my harbinger eyes, and can comfortably farm 600ish echoes

[queen mason]

hah I think stormcarved is the hardest one lol

never see a 2lp

[queen mason]

then i guess this gear for bosses only 👀

[queen mason]

Your min damage isn't low at all because of your wand haha

[faint heart]

A good slam on 1lp still works fine for the stormcarved. 2lp I'd want mana and crit multi

[queen mason]

I'll want mana and intelligence

😵 Ok stop my experiment and go back to play static orb

[faint heart]

If you can bump Lagon up to 800+ you can get him to drop 2 stormcarved on death about 30% of the time.

Again, if you're CoF of course

[queen mason]

800 corruption?

[faint heart]

Yes

[queen mason]

lmaoooo can I say 503 corruption is enough to torture me lol

Then I need to craft double gears at first

[fallen wren]

what happens at 800c?

[queen mason]

Of course, it's the skill issue more

[fallen wren]

I think I would have no problem with 800c or even 1k lagon, the issue is more the echoes

[queen mason]

on the opposite, I'm stuck on bosses always

[fallen wren]

even at 600-650c, I occasionally get 1 hit, and I cannot comfortably tank tower hits for example

I loath that the trash mobs are coming 1 by 1, and I cannot check loot on the ground with the towers shooting...

[queen mason]

So I don't like to farm harbingers at all, this boss just harder to kill

[faint heart]

Over 800 is where I started seeing 2 drop. Never before 800, so I imagine there's some kind of softcap there.

[fallen wren]

hmm

at 1k, do you not have tankiness issues? or you are just comfortable dodging everything?

[faint heart]

Speed is your friend with spires, go back for loot when they're dead.

[fallen wren]

the whole map? no f'ing chance 😄

like 2-3 screens I am inclined backtracking if really needed, but not more...

[faint heart]

If I get hit at 1k+ generally it kills me. I don't die often though. Again my movement speed is stupid high and I consistently teleport every 5 seconds for 1 second of immunity and 2 seconds of haste, plus other buffs.

[fallen wren]

that is not comfortable for me unfortunately

and you probably have at best 50% MS on me, that does not make such a big difference imo

[faint heart]

After teleport. I've seen much higher, but have to use other uniques.

[fallen wren]

that's with haste, right?

or just standing without doing anything?

[faint heart]

Post teleport, so yes, plus passive bonuses after traversal in the RM tree. I have 82% base movement.

[fallen wren]

I have 77 base

but I do not have haste on movement(I get it on hit from the wand though) and better haste

with chronowarp, I have 112, with haste I have 142

[quiet axle]

controller or keyboard? i use both but if you want to whiz through and pick up gear, controller is very good

[fallen wren]

kb+mouse

how does the controller help?

[quiet axle]

cause you just spam A while running

[faint heart]

That's pretty good. You should be able to dodge most things, especially the spire bombs

[quiet axle]

and u will pick uup all the gear

compared to the mouse

it def makes a huge diff in picking up gear

100%

[fallen wren]

I can, but I do not like to pay attention always

[faint heart]

Haha, well they don't make gear to make up for that 🤣

[fallen wren]

generally, if I concentrate, I have no issues, and damagewise 600+ is comfortable

[fallen wren]

yea, skill issue is a hardcap 😄

[queen mason]

Where are you gain movement speed except the boots? It give you 65% base movement speed only

[fallen wren]

if I had passive 2k ward per sec, it would work 😄

[fallen wren]

wrongwarp gives 35%, haste 30%

[queen mason]

???? I'm confused. he owns 82% movement speed under just stand here?

[fallen wren]

he also has swiftness

from the gloves, that's 20%

[faint heart]

+Boots, +Wrongwarp, +Gloves

[fallen wren]

I have 69% just from the boots

other 8% comes from the ammy

if I had gloves, I could go for 20% extra (I might slam the 2 LP gloves)

[faint heart]

Waiting for 3lp Boots to slam with these

[fallen wren]

juicy 🙂

[queen mason]

base movement speed I mean is the number without traversal skill bonus and haste

[faint heart]

Yes

[fallen wren]

we were talking about that too (as well about total MS)

[fallen wren]

how often are you dying? I manage to die like 1 out of 10-15 echoes even at 600 😄

also, I have one generic loot filter I made, which is not really good, as it tries to pick up loot for all my characters

so even though my screen is relatively clear, I need to glance at the loot I pick up

[faint heart]

I'd say at 1k I'm about the same maybe? Haven't really averaged it out.

[fallen wren]

did not want exact stats, just how are you feeling it 🙂

the difference between 1k and 600 is probably there is more stuff that 1 hits you

[queen mason]

So plus all movement speed bonus from boots and passive trees, it's 75% at max. How the glove give your ms? No bonus on the description

[fallen wren]

check swiftness

[faint heart]

Probably about the same. My issue right now is crit avoidance. I have a 2lp belt I'm waiting to slam on a t7 crit avoidance, and 4lp gloves to cap crit avoidance when I get the right drops.

[fallen wren]

are you using avoidance or less damage taken? should the former be preferred for some reason?

[queen mason]

oh swiftness give 10% bonus when lv.100?

[faint heart]

Less dmg taken at the moment, but I'm switching to avoidance when I get the exalteds to drop. As long as I can cap it, then I'll never get crit and less dmg taken won't matter.

[queen mason]

oh so this glove can give 20% movement speed bonus at max

[fallen wren]

I know but does a crit have any other spec effects than more dmg being taken? or is taking 90%-100% less extra damage fine

less damage taken is available on the tree

so I go with that

also, at 600-650 I do see 7-8k non-crit hits quite often when I die

[queen mason]

thanks, never know that glove gives so much ms...

[faint heart]

Less dmg taken is fine I’m more or less trying avoidance out cause that frees up space on my belt for cooldown recovery.

Need teleport to be faster lol

[queen mason]

lv.99 is as same as lv.100, give 20% bonus 🤭

now I have a few unique items need a slam

[queen mason]

emmm so you don't use focus usually?

[faint heart]

I use focus if I'm in the middle of fighting and run out of mana, or to overcharge for bosses/abby.

[queen mason]

what reason guide you to choose Arcane Ascendance nor flame ward?

[fallen wren]

I don't spec it, so it is fast 😄

[faint heart]

Double damage

[fallen wren]

how is arcane asc double damage? 😮

[fallen wren]

is it important to spec teleport? I started that way too, but I found I don't need the 1 extra free static orb every x sec, it is just better to not to spec it

[faint heart]

So not double damage, but 1.5mil boost.

[faint heart]

If you aren't using teleport, you aren't getting Chronowarp from Wrongwarp.

[queen mason]

oh I see. flame ward is for defense more, Arcane Ascendance is for offense more

[faint heart]

Or just not putting points in it?

[fallen wren]

but how? isn't that boost just coming from cast speed mostly? by reading it, I saw arcane asc giving meager amounts of increased damage, no more damage at all

[faint heart]

I spec it to reduce the cooldown and extend buff durations.

[fallen wren]

I am using teleport, just not speccing it

[faint heart]

The extra orb is just a bonus

[unreal umbra]

worth speccing always i reckon. what else do you spec into instead?

[fallen wren]

but with the extra orb, you actually increase its cd, I have mine at 3.3s, if I specced it your way, it would be 6s+ I reckon

[faint heart]

I go from 374% spell damage to 550% and 33% cast speed to 88%.

[fallen wren]

yea, so cast speed I found meaningless

[faint heart]

Hmm

[fallen wren]

I run out of mana in seconds anyway, and anything that needs dying dies in that time

I specced frost wall, as it gives a nice more multiplier

and it works in echoes too

I don't really use static orb in echoes, only to ohko mages, nemesis and bosses

and flame ward gives added +increased damage (though only 250% lightning damage, which is of course much worse than 200 spell damage)

but again I am not arguing it is better or trying to convince you

I just try to learn, and I will readily use ascendance if I think it is better

[faint heart]

You may have a point, although I like stun immunity for 1 second...I may play with that.

[fallen wren]

currently, I am not convinced it would be much better for me for bosses (as I have ample spell damage, and the 100+ int also gives 400% spell damage which is additive with it afaik)

if I get stunned, I usually get 1 shot anyway 😄

you said if you get hit, you die anyway, which makes sense at 1k 😄

[faint heart]

Which is why that stun immunity is nice, but maybe not worth 7 pts

[fallen wren]

flame ward mitigates a lot of damage though, even if you spec it offensively

but again, when would you get stunned?

you don't get stunned, you get 1 hit

[faint heart]

Haha ok fair

[fallen wren]

but sure, I would not mind stun immunity either, but the uptime on it is pathetic

my bad

the uptime is actually good

but still, I prefer 1 sec invulnerability + locking mobs every 3 sec versus being stun immune with some extra armor every 6-8sec

also, for you it might be even more beneficial because of the haste on traversal

also, flame ward can give haste while it is up as well 🙂

[faint heart]

Yeah. I'm gonna try it, why not.

[fallen wren]

and the frost wall can freeze rares 🙂

and you just drop it, and you have the more multiplier as frost claw chills and slows automatically 🙂

if instead of cast speed bonus, ascendance give some other form of extra dmg, I would probably use it as well, though I am not enthused by the fact I cannot move

[faint heart]

Almost perma hasted with the new teleport skill tree. Added dmg as well. I like it. Thanks.

[unreal umbra]

what did you change, spec'd flame ward for spec'd aa?

[faint heart]

Nope just changed the teleport skill tree I'll drop in a sec

[fallen wren]

glad if it helped 🙂

[faint heart]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BE5lOjgB
Between Wrongwarp and the boots almost always have haste. Love it.

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (67) / Runemaster (26)

General:

▸ Health: 962, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 2,079.21, Regen: 21.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 386%, Regen: 275/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 11 Dex / 90 Int / 7 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 40% / 16% / 80% / 56% / 28% / 17% / 17%
▸ EHP: 974 / 901 / 1,433 / 1,261 / 823 / 766 / 834

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 192
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,577)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Swiftness

Used skills:

• Static Orb (24)
• Teleport (20)
• Focus (20)
• Frost Claw (22)
• Arcane Ascendance (20)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• The Confluence of Fate
• Unstable Core
• Wrongwarp
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Julra's Stardial
• Phantom Grip
• Blood of the Exile
• Stormcarved Testament
• Fingers of the Phantom Mire

[fallen wren]

teleport alone almost gives you constant haste 😄

that teleport spec I considered, but I found the frost wall+flame ward combo quite good

if I had boots like you, I would use that tp as well 🙂

what is teleport cd now (with the cd boost)? 🙂

[faint heart]

3 seconds. Once I get it on my belt and boots it should be around 2.5 I think.

[fallen wren]

hmm

don't think so, or something is not right... I have it on 3.3 sec cd, and I don't seem to have cd reduction

other than the tree

did you skip those?

no, I don't get it why I have 3.3 sec, and you 3 :S

you should get more than that from comet rush alone :S

[faint heart]

Now is 3.1 seconds for some reason

[fallen wren]

weird

[faint heart]

8% increased cooldown on my wrongwarp

[unreal umbra]

got it back

smk gonna bust out an 800 at the last second

[faint heart]

Nice

[queen mason]

🙃 The rate of failed in the slam for stormcarved is super high really

65% failed rate. So I'm failed again

[unreal umbra]

rng is rng. i bricked 15 2lp titan hearts before i hit it on the 16th one. going for a 1/6 chance slam. rip 15 fails in a row.

[faint heart]

Yep. My buddy bricked close to 30 1lp stealth and 5 2lp stealth just trying to slam movement speed.

I had a 3lp Testament drop on the ground from a nemesis, only to die to ground poison before I could pick it up. rip

[sour panther]

one day I slamed some leveling gear, all 3 lp and i managed to miss the t7 affix on 5 out of 6, that was insane xd

[unreal umbra]

bruh

that's ultimate feels bad missing a 3lp

coz you know you're meant to hit it

[sour panther]

ye luckily just leveling gear, in exchange i also hit the t7 on a couple of 1 lps 😄

my first slam of the season was hitting t7 max roll int on 1 lp phantom grip 😛

you lose some you win some, thats how it is 😄

the worst is when you get really rare gear to 2 lp like I had one 2 lp wings of argentus but missed my t7 flame reave on it 😦

[queen mason]

Ok 366 mana set for echoes and the other one for bosses

🤭 I'm confused why less mana cost but more damage too

340 mana one must deal more damage if I can find another T7 intelligence exalted rings and do a successfully slam

[queen mason]

Oh forget that confusing amulet. Another serious gamble coming soon

[fallen wren]

if I get hit, and I hear a "ding" sound, what does that mean? did I get crit?

[queen mason]

ohhhhhhh successfully on the slam again hahaha

[queen mason]

Huge update is done 👍

[sour panther]

you got stunned

[sour panther]

do you have armor shred somewhere? before you blast bosses with static orb you can easilie apply like 200 armor shred stacks with a few frost claws with one t 5 aromor shred affix somewhere

[fallen wren]

thx, is there such thing for crits as well?

or even better, is there combat log accessible somehow? 😄

[sour panther]

ye you die

jk

😂

[queen mason]

😅 I still stuck on harbinger of chaos...No. Shred armor or crit multiplier or mana, choose one.

[sour panther]

no there is not as far as i know

only if you die you can see if the ability that killed you crit

[fallen wren]

that's still better than what I remember from PoE or Diablo 😄

but nothing compared to WOW or FFXIV

I got garbage nemesis slams on my best 5 nihilises :/

[queen mason]

At least you have many Nihilies :)

I even can't kill harbinger once time...Sigh. I mean the thin one

[tough glacier]

which mana stack build guide is nice for now?

[sour panther]

look up frozen sentinel on yt i guess 😛

[sour panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjF2eg7B1Uo the other very popular sorc build i guess 😛

[tough glacier]

ohhh i saw this glacier one

[sour panther]

this one might melt your pc tho xd

friend of mine had problems with meteor and he has a high end set up

but hey maybe engine update will fix that ^^

[queen mason]

I can't accept no ward so it's passed

[sour panther]

sorry for the thumbs up bro didnt see the end result, rip

[obtuse pine]

bricked

[nimble rover]

why you did it with smk? 😢

[tepid barn]

Gj unfortunately I didn't have any time to push again😆

[quiet axle]

man something has to be done about 3Lp misses.... itjust feels so bad

compared to 1LP hit etc.

I heard they talked about it on dev stream

I think it will eventuually be looked at

[tight venture]

Yeah I think making affixes with higher tier have more success chance on getting slammed?

[little wasp]

any builds around elemental bees totem?

[fallen wren]

that does not solve the problem, it will happen more rarely, but it will feel even worse. an example for a solution is that you could decide to reduce the LP by 1, but then you would be allowed to choose 1 affix (or all affixes, though it only matters for 3LP).

[tight venture]

I would rather take the chance than lose LP from a sought after BIS item, because I really need that 3rd affix for my build to shine/survive at higher corrupt.

[fallen wren]

that is a choice of course

but then, you choose to take the risk

that was just an example, I am all against rng in "rare events"

getting a 3 LP drop of a good rare item with good rolls on it is rng enough imo...

[tight venture]

There's always a risk I failed 18 times to slam a 2LP item just to get my desired affixes (2 prefixes.) This is in MG. I have the worst luck lol.

I quit my frost claw build and transitioned to glacier one because I failed to slam a 1LP red ring with 16int that I bought for 1.5b. MG sucks for self found loots. I haven't seen a red ring in 400 hrs this season, nor a 2 LP stormcarved drop. This is 1.5k-2k corrupt lagon farming.

[fallen wren]

if it happens 18 times quickly (like you can get 18 times in 20 hours of gameplay "roll the dice"), I am fine with it, but I loath it when I have to roll the dice for something that happens once in 6 months, and the result is greatly determined by the dice roll's result

[fallen wren]

I have only seen 1 red ring, but I play COF because of the polluted economy

that is a good example, I don't want to gamble with "once in a lifetime" items...

[tight venture]

BUt I got the rarest gloves though, what's that called again I forgot

[fallen wren]

but unfortunately there seem to be a lot of players who want more rng :S

not sure what is EHG's stance on this

but sure, increasing higher tier affixes' chance helps, I guess it is better than nothing, if they do that, but I still think it will feel even worse to miss

as one will think "this should not have happened, what is the chance?"

[tight venture]

for sure, I only got 1x16 int ring this season haha

t7*

[fallen wren]

I don't play cycles either, I really hate the limitations of the early gearing

[tight venture]

The hardest part in MG is fixing your loot filter, what to sell to dispose of. I wish I;m knowledgble with other classes, so I can maximize my profts haha

[fallen wren]

well, mg is a different animal

I would have preferred to go MG, I started that

but when I saw the prices (that were mainly caused by cheaters flooding the market with extra money), I went CoF

in 1.1 I tried to start MG again, but then I saw EHG messed it up, I just went back to legacy to play CoF 😄

[tight venture]

Newbies and casual players are most affected by it. They can't buy inflated priced items

[fallen wren]

yea, I am a casual player, I feel it

if the trading could somehow be automated (setting the filter, picking up the items, selling them), it would be good to play 😄

[tight venture]

At least bazaar is better than manual trading of PoE.

[fallen wren]

indeed

[tight venture]

When you have to deal with AFkers and price fixers lol

[fallen wren]

but PoE has tools

[tight venture]

yeah third party ones

I used them all.

[fallen wren]

out of my 11k poe hours, I reckon over 50% was trading

[tight venture]

But I haven't played the last 2 seasons of PoE so. not sure what's new

[fallen wren]

I haven't played since the wisp league

[tight venture]

TRADING in POE is end game.

[fallen wren]

and I don't mind it tbh

but I would really want automated trading

and auctions

[tight venture]

haha most I have fun gameplay wise probably is the tota league

[fallen wren]

I only started the end of it

but that was a good league

[tight venture]

u casual LE player but hardcored 11k hrs PoE player haha

[fallen wren]

last time I stopped playing after I watched Palsteron's video on how to farm the wisp league

[fallen wren]

I am a lifetime casual, there are skill limitations 😄

[tight venture]

maybe I'm just waiting for PoE 2 myself

[fallen wren]

I'll sure play that

or try that

[tight venture]

speaking for skill limitations I haven't defeated uber Maven solo yet in 1k+ hrs

[fallen wren]

and also vessel of hatred, if it is free on game pass

[fallen wren]

me neither

and I only beat the normal one a couple of times

[tight venture]

same

[fallen wren]

that is one of my griefs, I think that fight is just too hard for casuals

[tight venture]

lol I'm having a hard time at 20% aberroth

[fallen wren]

I think Aberroth is too hard as well or heck even t4 julra

I could only farm aberroth with the broken mana stacker

[tight venture]

yeah

3-4 shots for me

hahahaha

[fallen wren]

I tried it with a very well geared torment warlock and I got to like 60%

[fallen wren]

something 1 shots me 😄

[tight venture]

WHat is that build not sure accolyte maybe, I found in youtube farming 3k+ corrupt eeasily this season

[fallen wren]

but that is not the biggest problem, the problem is it has a plethora of abilities, and you have to know which are (relatively) harmless, and which should be avoided at all costs

[tight venture]

my browsing history got wwiped so can't see it again

[fallen wren]

and add to this, you cannot practice the fight cheaply

[tight venture]

yes

[fallen wren]

so I detest that

[tight venture]

I failed all my 15 eyes

[fallen wren]

but apparently some people cheered for it

[tight venture]

I'd like more content

[fallen wren]

in poe, I hated the uber bosses, especially maven, and the items like original sin that cost 1.5 mirror

[tight venture]

PoE has too many content that i haven't touched heh

[fallen wren]

yea

poe is a game about what not to play 😄

[tight venture]

that MIsha guy still playing? delving?

[fallen wren]

not sure, I haven't played for a loong time

possibly I won't play until poe 2

[tight venture]

what game are you busy at now

[fallen wren]

but I agree, would be nice to have more content in LE, but I think it is coming

nothing really, was playing LE the last couple of weeks

I played LE more or less from about end of july

[tight venture]

COF is good all the time, while MG offerings are stale when near season end

[fallen wren]

I am happy that I don't have to do the trading 🙂

also, I think MG was not very friendly interface

compared to PoE's trade site for example

but I read it will be improved now, shame I won't get to see it 😄

but I love the concept they have CoF and MG

so you don't feel as pressured to trade

I usually try some new games on xbox game pass for pc

if they are from genres I play and are decent

[fallen wren]

what have you been playing yourself recently?

[atomic bough]

are you really comparing in game system with 3rd party system?

not very fair comparism

[fallen wren]

afaik pathofexile.com/trade is not a third party system, it is developed/maintained by GGG, I might be wrong though.
but sure, from my viewpoint as a player, I don't care who developed a part of the game's ecosystem, I do consider for example awakened poe trade (a 3rd party overlay for poe that has a good amount of very useful trading related features) as part of poe, as it is allowed by the game developer, is readily available for everyone, and improves my playing experience
and yes, I did find MG's search features quite a bit lacking compared to pathofexile.com/trade's filters, or live search. one massive improvement of LE on that though is you don't have to manually trade (and deal with afk players or fake listings)

[rough minnow]

Hey guys

I was considering cooking a Celestial Doom Sorcerer

[atomic bough]

there is nothing more fun than pure flame reave 2h

[tight venture]

just cs2

[lilac ingot]

Hello i want to test a Mage.
Does the Maxroll Guides sorcerer level Guide and Glacier Sorcerer are good ?
Do you have any recent youtuber builds to recommend on mage ?

[rough minnow]

Very solid yeah

just mind itll take you a while to get up to those items theyre listing

on mage specifically, no - if youre interested in some ability or playstyle, try to look it up and try to find a guide with it in recent patch.

thatb eing 1.0+

[sour panther]

does everything in this game have to be easy af tho? god forbid there is a challenge

it'a an uber boss, it is supposed to be hard

[fallen wren]

I don't want challenge, I want enjoyment
but my problem is the combination of limited access (keys), usefulness of reward and difficulty

[sour panther]

a challenge is enjoyment

[fallen wren]

if Julra did not gate slams on level 75+ items, I would not care
if Abberoth dropped useless loot, I would not care
if there was an infinite ability to practice the fight, where the limitiation is only my time, I would care less (I am confident Julra can be learned by most players)

[sour panther]

I don't want everything in this game beeing dumbed down.

[fallen wren]

for some people, sure it is

[cedar mauve]

Hey folks, is spell blade in a good place right now? I'm interested in the melee mage power fantasy, ha.

[sour panther]

got close to 700 cor with it and the build was far from finished so ye there are viable builds for sure

also think it's fun

[cedar mauve]

How did it feel/play? I've not had one since pre-1.0.

[sour panther]

julra is not hard to learn tho, yes she deals a lot of dmg but once you know what she does, everything is telegraphed

[cedar mauve]

700 is quite impressive!

[fallen wren]

I do love complexity, however, I do not like when there is a massive emphasis on execution

and again, one of my big gripes is the lack of ability to practice

[sour panther]

that's exactly what i like about this game

[cedar mauve]

That's what keeps it challenging; PoE does the same thing, sadly, with its ubers

[sour panther]

beeing about execution

[fallen wren]

😄

[fallen wren]

yea, one of the thing I did not like in poe

I don't like when the endgame far exceeds my ability 🙂

I mean, I know I am bad, but surely not that bad

[sour panther]

like ye maybe you cant practice aberoth too much but every other boss can be practiced as much as you want

[fallen wren]

can you practice julra?

[sour panther]

yes?

[fallen wren]

don't you need a key?

[sour panther]

you run the dungeon 5-10 min and i agree its frustrating some times, but they also said they make the rooms smaller and obstacles less this patch

i literally sell 30 keys every 30 min

i dont see how keys are a problem lol

[fallen wren]

really? 🙂

I only have like 2 tabs

and I usually pick up sanctum keys

[sour panther]

how often do you want to practice julra?

she has like what maybe 8 abilities

[fallen wren]

as much as I need to master it so that I can beat her 99% of the time

[solar hollow]

frostclaw spellblade or sorc better dude ???

[fallen wren]

sorc

[sour panther]

I had fun 😄 but I can't talk for you, just try it 😄

played pure melee as well

[sour panther]

both viable

spellblade makes it kinda easy to crit cap

if you want to combine it with mana stacking static orb then sorc is better

[fallen wren]

the main problem with Julra is not the difficulty though, but that she gates a key feature... do you think the majority of the players can kill t4 julra?

[solar hollow]

i saw spellblade use nova so good

[sour panther]

if they put some effort in yes I believe they could. I also believe many players will die once or twice and be like nah thats too hard. And I believe that's a player problem not a game problem.. if you dont want no challenge at all last epoch is not the arpg for you, at least I hope it won't be because if they give in to that then it won'T be for me anymore.

[fallen wren]

it might be true (though I think it is quite a bit easier than PoE, not to mention stuff like FFXIV), but unfortunately there seems to be no arpg for me

[sour panther]

what about diablo? xx

[fallen wren]

I quit diablo last autumn I think 🙂

[sour panther]

maybe just check out how it will be after the patch, because they change the dungeons

[fallen wren]

LE > D4 for me

[sour panther]

so it should be less frustrating to learn the bosses.,

[fallen wren]

I will surely check it out after vessel of hatred

[sour panther]

was talking about le 😄

[fallen wren]

ah

[sour panther]

I cant get back into dia4 as well

[fallen wren]

btw, I can farm both Aberroth and Julra, but I had to break the game to do so

[sour panther]

actually my first arpg because a friend told me I'd have to play it.. was fun for a while but after I tasted le's skill system I just can't motivate myself to play d4 at all

[fallen wren]

I kinda 1 shoot abby with sorc, but that is not a proper kill, it is almost like an exploit

[sour panther]

I mean thats also an option tho, play one op build and then just use this to farm the op bosses, play some for fun builds next to that

but ye i get one char is allready time intesive

[fallen wren]

I have fun with the sorc, but sure, I have many builds 🙂

one thing I love in LE is the build diversity

for every class, there are multiple viable builds

[sour panther]

ye thats true

and great about the game

[fallen wren]

when I played d4, it could not be said about that

[sour panther]

y

i like how fighting feels in this game

but the skill system just does not motivate me at all ^^

[fallen wren]

tbh, if they did not mess up the market, LE would be the closest to perfect for me among the arpgs on the market 🙂

though it still is 😄

but I don't like the direction of adding very hard content and super rare stuff

that's for the elite players 🙂

[sour panther]

I feel like they also try to add a lot of stuff that is accessible for all players, nemesis, loot lizards etc.

ofc expanding the endgame is also important and they will continue to do that. But not everything in the late game is like super skill dependent.

[fallen wren]

they do

[nimble rover]

it's more about your build/gear and time. and after this is piloting skills

[fallen wren]

currently I think only Aberroth can be considered "very hard", but unfortunately he guards some very tasty, exclusive loot

[sour panther]

ye ofc, time is allways a factor.. if you don't have loads of time I do believe arpgs might just not be the best choice for gaming in general tho^^

like these games are all super time intesive.

[nimble rover]

very hard maybe for LE current state. overall hes very easy. last phase is a bit bad in terms of visual clarity tho

[sour panther]

he only really guards one item tho doesn't he?

[fallen wren]

I am not confident I could have beaten him with my torment warlock

[nimble rover]

oh you will be able to im sure

[fallen wren]

isn't the body armour, the helm and the amulet exclusive loot?

and the amulet with good rolls is quite good and flexible

[sour panther]

null portent seems to be your right

[fallen wren]

though sure, you can argue that none of those are necessary and probably none of those are bis to most builds

[sour panther]

didnt try to farm that so i didnt know 😛

[fallen wren]

and wall of nothing, and seed of ekkidrasil

[nimble rover]

nihilis. null portent. and see of eblablabla something

[nimble rover]

wall is not

[sour panther]

y

but like non of these items are essential for any build

[fallen wren]

which harb drops it?

[nimble rover]

fall of the empire

[fallen wren]

true, I said that too 🙂

[sour panther]

soo i get it might be frustrating if you try to farm them but some stuff needs to be rare, at least for me

and you can allways just go merchant and buy stuff i guess^^

I think it's still way better then farming ubers in dia 4

where you do the same boss 50 times to get one uber

[fallen wren]

also, I got like 10-15 amulets, and probably all are going to get bad slams and/or rolls

[sour panther]

and have to farm mats for the boss as well

[fallen wren]

forget d4 😛

I bought ultimate for 100EUR, now I regret giving blizz that money 🙂

[nimble rover]

well amulet is a bit hard to get. i mean good one. it need to be + 2 and with decent rolls without -% rolls pref 😄 and also at least 1 lp

[fallen wren]

they do not deserve it for that garbage

[fallen wren]

or 0 LP and lucky nemesis 🙂

[nimble rover]

tq2 EA is 70$ btw 😄

[fallen wren]

honestly, if I consider it in a vacuum, probably the 100EUR was worth it, as I played several hundreds of hours

70 usd is perfectly fine for a good game

or 100

[sour panther]

ye

[nimble rover]

not for early access tho 😄

[sour panther]

i think this crying about games beeing to expensive is such bs

[fallen wren]

but with d4, I felt they did not deliver what has been promised

[sour panther]

ofc games are getting more expensive, everything is

if the game is not finished, that's what is bad

[fallen wren]

with hindsight it is like "it would have been better to leave it out of my life altogether", including the time spent with it

[nimble rover]

we paid like 35 for LE? do you think it is finished btw?

[sour panther]

no

[fallen wren]

I paid 35 for it too, during early access, and I am very happy with that, and all the time spent on LE

it was well worth it

that is the big difference

[sour panther]

but i spent 600 hours at least on le and had loads of fun, so the invest is still so worth

[fallen wren]

every minute and every second was well spent

and every cent 😄

but again, when you spend hundreds of hours on a game, 35 eur is nothing

[sour panther]

you know not everything is perfect about le, they had bugs, problems at 1.0, this season there was a bug where you got stuck in load screen in temp sanctum which was very frustrating

[fallen wren]

if you are an adult, and you are in a country from where you can play, you surely make around 5eur/hour at least

[sour panther]

but the developers actually care about the game, work hard on it, patch it, and they communicate.

[fallen wren]

true, but for some reason I can forgive EHG, I cannot forgive Blizzard

[sour panther]

mistakes happen, nobody is perfect

ye because blizzard has so much more experience and money, it feels like the mistakes they make should not happen

[nimble rover]

there is no more Blizzard anymore. like for long time. and now its even worse. so

[fallen wren]

they had probably hundreds of millions of sales, EHG had like a couple 10 mill at best

well, activision or microsoft whatever

[nimble rover]

its a huge difference

[fallen wren]

still, big companies with glorious past and infinite resources

[nimble rover]

blizzard was a god tier company

their products are legendary

[fallen wren]

and d4 is a massive success

commercially

[nimble rover]

and now it is just money grabbing service

[fallen wren]

it is not even in the same league as in LE

but tbh, it probably is better than LE for the target audience

and again, I am not against money grabbing

I am happy to pay for entertainment

no one likes to work for free 😄

[sour panther]

you know it went bad for gaming as soon as people realized there is a lot of money in games and the investors came in.

All these companies went to sht because of fcking investment groups only carring about making max revenue.

[fallen wren]

so you say the laws of capitalism determine that games will be for the masses? too bad...

[sour panther]

I don't complain that games are for the masses, I complain about a lack of quality, of games getting released unfinished, bs monetization etc.

[fallen wren]

define quality

[sour panther]

but then again this only works because people buy into it.

[fallen wren]

I can accept unfinished games, provided they finish it, and the end product is good

agreed on the bs monetization though

[sour panther]

I can accept that if it is communicated, earlie access games etc.. there are a lot of good indie games still ofc, or games of smaller companies..

[fallen wren]

yea, LE is a good example

[sour panther]

y

[warped crow]

the devs are just really garbage at PR ngl ... game is finished ... they should have worded it that they were adding more ... not that it wasnt finished

[fallen wren]

I have xbox game pass for pc for like 4 years now, and it is interesting to play some games released in the past, for example I read a lot of s*** abount Anthem, but when I played freely on game pass a long time after its release, I found it a perfectly fine game

[warped crow]

so people are just latching on to the fact they said it wasnt finished

lel

[sour panther]

i mean look at cyberpunk, it was a shitfest, i bought the game after 1.6 and it is my favorite single player/story game of all time

I just wont ever preorder a game of big companies, like ever.

[fallen wren]

I got it at release

[warped crow]

35 mins till start

[fallen wren]

and sure, it had crap stability, but I could immediately see it was a really good game

and it became decent after some time (regarding stability)

how could you write shitfest?

ah interesting you can write shitfest, just not s***? 😄

[sour panther]

true now that you say it 😂

[fallen wren]

that's good practice, I try to do that myself

[sour panther]

And I am 100% sure if you asked any of the cyberpunk devs, they would have delayed the release by a couple of month and the game would have been released in a better state.

[fallen wren]

I was just so hyped up about d4...

[sour panther]

but investors wanted a return early and well the internet burned 😂

[fallen wren]

interestingly Blizz does that (did it in the past), and yet they manage to release a fundamentally wrong game

[sour panther]

and if i remember correctly, marketing was also a problem for that game because people thought it would be like gta

[fallen wren]

is cdpr a public company though with influental investors?

[fallen wren]

it kinda has similarities with GTA

[sour panther]

cd projekt is really big player after wither 3

[fallen wren]

yea, but did they get external investment or takeover?

[sour panther]

yes but it is more story driven and less of a sandbox

[fallen wren]

and I stand by my opinion it is a really good game

lots of content, and that is what I would call "quality"

the technical issues are a completely different thing 🙂

[sour panther]

you don't have to convince me, I love the game 😂

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/investors/shareholders/ 60% owned by "unknown" investors

[sour panther]

they are different things, but technical issues can haevily effect the qualitie of gameplay.

[fallen wren]

yes, but ideally they can be fixed

[sour panther]

for me a good example might be total war warhammer, they had a big shitstorm becaue they upped the pricing of dlcs but the qualitie went down, less content and "lazy" or badly thought out design choices.. and there were many inside reports that it was due to the investors wanting to milke the game as much as possible with the least amount of work put into it.. well in this case the community protest actually worked and the last dlc had great content and qualitie, and noone complained about pricing anymore.

[fallen wren]

I got that with a deal (like all dlcs and games, except the ones after warhammer 3), it costed a lot, but it is a great game

[sour panther]

it is

[fallen wren]

on the normal price, it is ridiculously expensive though possibly over 400-500 eur...

[sour panther]

ye if you buy it now it defenitly is

however i had no problem buying this over the years because i spent like 1,5k h in wh2 and 3 together xd

[fallen wren]

I got them so I can play immortal empires, then they made it available without owning all the games iirc 🙂

[sour panther]

great value

[sour panther]

ye that also needed a lot of community pressure sadly

[fallen wren]

agreed, though still it is quite expensive

[torpid kelp]

decided to play rune master, any build in particular you guys would recommend?

[fallen wren]

plasma orb is the current famous build iirc 🙂

[torpid kelp]

in maxroll there is plasma orb and hydrahedron

[fallen wren]

but I am not sure it would not work well with frostbite frostclaw, I will try it

hydrahedron was nerfed repeatedly, not sure how it is now

[torpid kelp]

looking at the date

has it been nerfed AFTER that date?

[dark jay]

mfw static orb is still not nerfed

[sour panther]

no balance changes for this patch as far as I am aware

[fallen wren]

don't think so

[sour panther]

hydrahedron was op pre 1.0 but is still a good build i think

[fallen wren]

just atm it is not close to a meta build, it was in the past

[sour panther]

im still undecided if this is the first "cycle" where i dont start as mage

[fallen wren]

you start anew for the new patch?

[sour panther]

falconer, bladedancer, warlock or rm 🤔

[sour panther]

ye

but i might also play some legacy

[simple scarab]

how busted is static orb tho

like instant kill busted

[sour panther]

ye but it also needs a lot of investment to be able to os

but ye its busted

[grim ferry]

Soo curiosity the fun frost claw builds.. Sorc mana stacking? or do we have other options? (I hate the constant mana managing with mana stacking)

[sour panther]

ye spellblade fc

[torpid kelp]

Ah ok, well.... no point for me in playing a "meta build" If it's boring

[sour panther]

but fc without mana managing wont be possible

need mana strike or focus

mana strike better for low mana builds, focus for high mana

I'd say

you can also use telport/meteor refund tec

time to patch and hate watch rings of power

[sour panther]

another option for rm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81VibD_FfzA

[torpid kelp]

thx!

will take a look at it aftter work

have fun with the game!

[inner coyote]

ITS BACK! LIVE SERVICE RETURNED!

[grim ferry]

Last minute question.. opinion on Spellblade Frost claw compared to Sorc?

[fallen wren]

I had no issues with mana managing (definitely did not experience constant mana managing)

[fallen wren]

I cannot make a good comparison (did not play spellblade recently), but playing sorc it is hard to imagine spellblade has as good scaling as sorc

[proven haven]

Significantly inferior as spellblade

[sour panther]

oh ye forgot you cant take spark charge note as spellblade thats bad 😄

[fallen wren]

these new skill shrines are OP when leveling with leveling gear 😄

[grim ferry]

Good to know.. Only reason i was looking at other options was the fact that Sorc mana stacking has that annoying bit of using Focus or some other skill to constantly get your mana back

[fallen wren]

you don't need that after some point if you don't cast some very expensive spell

[grim ferry]

Any specific build variant i want to be looking at.. i presume something like frost claw would be one of the "less mana intense" one's?

[fallen wren]

I can complete echoes with just casting frost claw, and never using focus

I only use focus to overcharge mana to 1 shot bosses

[oblique yarrow]

why do my sorc passive ui look like 1.0 passive?

[warped crow]

they screwed up sorc tree

sad

[oblique yarrow]

it just visual bug i guess

[grim ferry]

Endgame variant or midgame stuff too?

[fallen wren]

I would say midgame is painful for sorcerer, but I started on legacy, so I could skip a good bit of the midgame

[warped crow]

its probably not just visual cuz connectors on the last passive sadge

definately bug tho

[fallen wren]

around 600 mana it started to work, from around 1100 it was good, with 2k it is superb, can 1-shot abby consistently

[fallen wren]

sry, forgot to use the reply function, but see above my experience

[grim ferry]

Interesting. what build did you follow?

[fallen wren]

I tinkered with frozensentinel's build

[fallen wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFBbVdeIp0

[grim ferry]

Thanks.. i was looking at that one too. Just going to use either Allie's leveling stuff till 64 points or another.

[fallen wren]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4kbWl4Q - this is what I used yday to run some 650ish echoes, and it was quite smooth

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.4

Class:

Mage (22) / Sorcerer (61) / Runemaster (30)

General:

▸ Health: 1,162, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,843.46, Regen: 24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 472%, Regen: 268/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 11 Dex / 109 Int / 7 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 90% / 126% / 136% / 76% / 86% / 70%
▸ EHP: 1,562 / 1,562 / 1,562 / 1,749 / 1,562 / 1,562 / 1,492

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 262
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,346)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 12% (98)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Ward (23)
• Frost Claw (22)
• Static Orb (26)
• Frost Wall (22)
• Focus (23)

Used unique items:

• Wrongwarp
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Julra's Stardial
• Phantom Grip
• Nihilis
• Stormcarved Testament

[fallen wren]

again, I am not convinced with sorc ssf leveling, I think I have been spoiled by playing torment warlock 😄

[grim ferry]

I was ruined after pre nerf runemaster

[fallen wren]

been there too 😄

[spiral mason]

they changed flame ward?????

[fallen wren]

I started leveling a spellblade, and just noticed the significant changes made in the passive tree, for sorc as well

[grim ferry]

Leveling a spellblade huh. Not a sorc?

[fallen wren]

I play legacy, and already have lvl 100 sorc there

[cedar mauve]

I was considering going spellblade, too, honestly. Thematically I prefer melee?

But is it really that much worse than sorc right now? 😦

[fallen wren]

it was before the patch

[grim ferry]

I'm going sorc.. had a quick look and its def a good bit better.. i can always make a 2nd char. and play it as spellblade

[fallen wren]

not sure how big the changes are, but there are significant changes, for example the mana bulwark node is really interesting...

10% mana per point? :S

[grim ferry]

FrozenSentinel is the main sorc / spellblade guy so i'm going off of that atm.

Oopsie that was a ping reply..

[wary lichen]

Fire 🙂

[chilly wave]

FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!

[turbid dome]

Can somebody explain the spark charges to me for the spellblade

[spiral mason]

having no fire conversion for mana strike should be a crime

[spiral mason]

spell that explodes after so much time attached to an enemy, i think some items have some relation with them too, but that might be something else

[turbid dome]

And it just adds an unreasonable amount of damage for moderate investment?

[spiral mason]

go to the mana strike tree (or any skill that gives you spark charges) and hold alt and it gives you a lil explanation

[spiral mason]

idk never used it yet

[fallen wren]

you need a specific off hand for it

then it does good damage

[turbid dome]

That blue white triangle thing?

[fallen wren]

I think so, fragment of the enigma

[turbid dome]

Yep, was lucky enough to dupe a 2 lp drop off that chest modifier

[proven haven]

It's strong for sorc because you can apply 50+ Spark charges per second as early as level 51 with 100% scaling on each

Spellblade is not able to apply nearly as many

[fallen wren]

how do you apply 50 per sec? 😮 can you do it sustainably?

[proven haven]

Each hit of Frost Claw applies 1 and you can hit up to 25 times per cast

[fallen wren]

😮

[proven haven]

So yea fairly sustainable if you do more you'll need to recover mana

[fallen wren]

25 times per cast?

I am heavily missing something...

[proven haven]

Potentially, we are getting pretty technical here

[fallen wren]

with frost claw? or frost claw proccing meteor etc?

[proven haven]

Frost Claw itself

[fallen wren]

honestly, I have no idea how

[proven haven]

Each bounce can apply 5 hits with volley of glass

If you have all extra bounce nodes and direct hit, it counts as 3 bounces hitting so 15 hits at once

Technically you can make all 5 bounces hit

[grim ferry]

Hey frozen, curious what makes frost claw Sorc so much better then Frost claw spellblade?

[fallen wren]

I do use volley of glass, and crack in the ice like nodes, I would swear when I checked on the dummy, it did not apply that much charges

[proven haven]

Well not even talking about static orb which certainly favors sorc, just Frost Claw alone benefits immensely from the sorc only node where 40 mana cost skills have 100% spark charge chace

I'll have to make another video on the mechanics explaining

[fallen wren]

I have to test this, if 1 fc applies 20+ spark charges, that almost makes static orb unnecessary

[grim ferry]

Long story short the dps / survivability different between sorc / spellblade is major enough to defintely pick up sorc?

[proven haven]

It does, I did all this math before 1.1 even dropped

And it works as expected

[proven haven]

It's not even comparable

Sorc is insanely strong with this setup, S++ tier type stuff

Spellblade honestly probably A tier

[grim ferry]

Interesting.. i saw a bunch of vids about Frost claw builds using Spellblade that looked fairly decently.. But good to know the info

[ruby bluff]

Sorc is nuts, spellblade is just comfy brainless mode

[reef gate]

Mana Well changed at the moment fyi

[ruby bluff]

although spellblade has lost its prodigy node (bug?)
so sorc is the only way to make it work properly now anyway

[grim ferry]

Well i got fragment of the enigma.. Ascencion did the funny

[proven haven]

It's fine, but I'm literally speed farming 700C in Hardcore SSF with sorc at 180% movement speed lol

spellblade can't come close to that damage and survivability

Damage is probably 1/5 (before considering static orb), Survivability probably 1/3?

[grim ferry]

Good to know.. Glad i did indeed pick sorc and didn't go spellblade

[proven haven]

This seems like a bug...? It just says "increased mana" and doesn't give it

[reef gate]

Yup. I'm guessing they accidentally rolled in future changes with this update.

[fallen wren]

I logged in to my sorc, it seems the tree is broken, I have 5 points allocated in mana well 😄

[ruby bluff]

yeah devs are aware that trees are broken

i'm playing spell blade and we lost the one node that makes frost claw work for spellblade >.>

[fallen wren]

we'll get back the 1.1 tree soon?

[ruby bluff]

We should still have the 1.1 tree

[fallen wren]

but we don't atm

[ruby bluff]

the fact we do not is a "bug"

[fallen wren]

how did you test it?

is it possible to make spark charges shown as a debuff?

unfortunately I cannot see them on the dummy

[proven haven]

https://www.youtube.com/live/00SXDBTB2ec?si=geor6z5ZR4RzqlWi here, HC SSF Abberoth kill using Spark Charge only, no static orb

[fallen wren]

I see a lot of spark charge explosions, but it is impossible to count it, it can well be 5 or 25 (if some explode simultaneously)

[proven haven]

I tested it by using exactly 100% shred chance and counting shred stacks

[fallen wren]

weird

I have 77% shred

I hit with 1 frost claw, wait for the charges to explode and I get between 19-29 shred stacks

processing this now 🙂

I might be wrong, but I think if 1 cast hit 25 times, it should apply more armor shred stacks (unless there is an ailment multiplier for frost claw/spark charges) like the expected number of the shred stacks should be 25x2x0.77 which is around 38 no?

[spiral mason]

any type of melee damage is added to mana strike correct?

[fallen wren]

it should be

[turbid dome]

Isn't Spell blade still one of the best classes for taking down aberoth?

[ruby bluff]

nah, sorc is by a mile

if you don't mind a small one shot rotation

[turbid dome]

eh

i dont feel like starting over on a brand new character

im nearly level 80 on my spellblade i want my first abberoth kill already

my falconer got completely nerfed by this patch today idk what happened

[ruby bluff]

level 80, I take it your on legacy then lolol

[turbid dome]

oh all the way

ill never play cycle if i can help it

[ruby bluff]

Fair, I was worried lol

Shame, its good fun

[turbid dome]

i dont want to start completely over and grind faction every time

that sounds MISERABLE

[ruby bluff]

but yeah passive trees are messed up and possibly bugged so everything is messed up

[brazen crest]

This is the way

[turbid dome]

is that potentially whats wrong with my falconer?

yesterday i was in nearly 700 corruption pretty comfortably

today i go into 350 and die instantly

i mean INSTANTLY

and im not doing enough damage

anyway side note, should i run red rings on my spellblade or does he need the +int from exalteds?

[ruby bluff]

Red rings give you int

but in a perfect world red rings WITH int slammed on them

[turbid dome]

id win the lottery first

i dont have enough luck left in my remaining life for that

[ruby bluff]

Skill issue

(red rings are awesome, even without slam, i'd use them)

[proven haven]

It's only 25 if you make all 5 bounces hit

which you won't do by default, you need to stand on the boss and aim away, using the redirect from frozen malice to return hit

on normal direct hit it will be 15 hits

[fallen wren]

ty for the explanation

when the mob is far away, where should I target?

[proven haven]

I prefer the Ferebor set ring with a good roll tbh

up to 18 int and 180 armor + necro res and ward decay

unless you can get a good slam on the Red Ring, then it wins

1 RR is good for resists though so YMMV

[proven haven]

direct

or at a group of enemies, you aim to the far side of the pack

[fallen wren]

and I will get the 15 charge version?

[proven haven]

so it hits all

yes

[fallen wren]

yea, packs are crazy

I noticed that pack around some tougher mob is much better than the tough mob alone, as the charges from the small mobs hit the big one too

nice, I got a portal to ruined college 🙂

gotta love these small qol changes

[warped crow]

supposedly its just visual but oof

[reef gate]

You can only put 1 point in it so it's not just visual for this skill

[warped crow]

OOF

true

[warped crow]

did you actually try yet tho or are you just looking at the tree

[fallen wren]

for existing characters, the 5 points stayed there, and the prereq skills can be empty