🧙┃mage

[mystic tundra]

doing the Lagonian strat?

[gentle mango]

it was a different echo but ye

lakeside non arena

[mystic tundra]

maybe I should try that tonight then

I really want to slam this into ladle, but scared to try on 2LP

[gentle mango]

didn't get a t6 or t7 missing hp to ward tho 😦

[gloomy topaz]

you can't put staff on ladle tho?

[mystic tundra]

oops, just realized that too

@gentle mango what corruption btw?

thinking 330 might be too low

[gentle mango]

umm think it was aout 600 or 700 when i did it

i'm assuming 2 3LP was also a bit lucky too

[mystic tundra]

True

I need to upgrade my wand blessing too.. only 50 out of 90%

[gloomy topaz]

yeah but I also want lightning claw for shock trigger

it's sad how the supposed 'buff' of the patch is a f- you to this build lol

[waxen sigil]

F I have no endless arena keys how do I get them

Without doing dungeons or monos, can I buy them anywhere

[mystic tundra]

what do you run arena for?

its just for testing how far you can go with your build?

[waxen sigil]

Yah

To the top baby

[mystic tundra]

I just want an orion's eye or red ring fam

[waxen sigil]

Same bro I want 5000 mana

[mystic tundra]

5000 wtf lol I'd kill for 1000

[past obsidian]

my coc meteor feels a little underwhelming and not procing - is it me not getting enough crit? my off-hand is not the crit chance one

[sly dagger]

I have 2 red rings, they're both bad, lowest rolls on everything on both of them, and both went in the egg and rolled poison dmg which is useless for me, but that aside, would 2 red rings with 0 LP be worth it over 2 3LP ring of the third eyes? I assume they're tankier, just don't know if worth losing 2 T7 intel stats, 2 T5 spell dmg stats and a chance to apply frailty and shred armor

[waxen sigil]

i think so

[scarlet totem]

Anyone using/used Frozen Sentinel's FC/Spark build?

[waxen sigil]

if u have no shred anywhere else then no tho shred and fraily r really important

but also that -30 crit multi u get rid of is nice

[sly dagger]

I'm thinking of using 1 red ring and 1 ring of the third eye, I have lightning res shred, just not armor shred, the other ring of the third eye will give frailty

[gentle mango]

frailty and shred.. on a ring? am i missing something

[sly dagger]

Or maybe I can have 1 red ring and the other ring of the third eye can have intel and armor shred + frailty

Wait, can you not get it on a ring, am I being high (I def might be)

[gentle mango]

i think you're high or i've been high for 8 months

[sly dagger]

I'm high

LMFAO

[mystic tundra]

lmao

[scarlet totem]

Is there a way to see en Echo's tag or title without jumping into it?

nevermind, lol

[south yoke]

is this good or trash?

[past obsidian]

coc meteor build - how do I craft this chest?

[past obsidian]

It is not some god BIS but has some really good stats. I can see every affixes on there being useful

[waxen sigil]

the hp regen is not useful

oh srry the gloves r good

[past obsidian]

Should I risk the biscuit and remove those?

I mean, I dont think there is anything good suffix to be put on there. It is still better than my mediocre stable core without lp.

What good prefix is there for coc meteor on chest?

[unreal umbra]

Int overall good for everything

I would do that first then chaos the health regen

Pretty solid

[past obsidian]

Solid plan. I didnt think of chaos

This chest gave me 140 more mana

[scarlet totem]

Pretty much covers ailments

[mystic tundra]

damn 3LP, lucky

[past obsidian]

Ah stupid me. I kept on hitting upgrade for int and ran out of FP before I could chaos the regen

[unreal umbra]

Did it get to t5? Still pretty good

[past obsidian]

T4. Well, the good thing is I learned something

[unreal umbra]

Also if you get to t4 and have lots of fp left, if it's a perfect roll at t4 you can use the rune of order to keep the max roll

[south yoke]

whats better for off hand higher mana tier or higher crit multiplier tier

[unreal umbra]

Depends on build, I go mana everywhere. Only exception would be weapon where crit multi could be a better choice

[wheat gyro]

did they nerf mana

for glacier sorcs

[mystic tundra]

wish the mana and crit multiplier were swapped but damn, get me a 3LP Ladle stat!

[past obsidian]

what build you playing using ladle?

[mystic tundra]

Frozen's frost claw spark build

[waxen sigil]

armor mana, dodge at the high end, meteor level, other skill level

[scarlet totem]

Are you playing it now? I want to switch to that build from meteor/glacier but lack the Enigma

[scarlet totem]

Lucky yes, but it was empowering a nemisis

[mystic tundra]

this is my hope to get one, but I keep finding 1LP which is super annoying

[mystic tundra]

Yep! Been playing it for a few weeks now.

[scarlet totem]

Like it? As good as it looks for erasing bosses? Decent echo clear?

[past obsidian]

How does it do against bosses? I mean, coc meteor with glacier and static melts bosses since static orb is so good at single target burst

[mystic tundra]

it doesn't feel the greatest for boss clearing, but I know that changes over time once you have more INT stacked where the core of your dmg builds from. The min max version of this build has around 200 INT, I'm at 150 right now. Echo clears are fast though. I know there is another variant of this build that Frozen highlighted recently from some Captain guy, that version melts bosses in seconds. Mana stacking I think?

[scarlet totem]

can you post your build? I am just straight meteor and glacier (can't decide which one i like more, lol)

[past obsidian]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/mana-stacking-elementalist-sorcerer-meteor-glacier-static-orb#skills

[silk pewter]

Mana stacking Elementalist Sorcerer (Meteor, Glacier, Static Orb) Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class

Mage / Sorcerer

Used skills

• Teleport
• Meteor
• Static Orb
• Focus
• Glacier

Used unique items

• Peak of the Mountain
• Unstable Core
• Wrongwarp
• Harbinger of Stars
• Transient Rest
• Julra's Stardial
• Julra's Stardial
• Strong Mind
• Stormcarved Testament

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Ranged

Created by chunkypapa · Jul 17, 2024, 12:15 AM

[scarlet totem]

doe s that one go FC and static orb?

[past obsidian]

I mean, static orb has to be involved if you want to melt bosses

[scarlet totem]

Thanks...that's quite the laundry list of needed uniques

[past obsidian]

all of them except for the chest and relic are easy to get I feel like, and the chest isnt mandatory

[mystic tundra]

nope, uses FC and spark charge from sorc passives

The mana stacking build from Captain and Chunky use static orb and melt bosses.

[scarlet totem]

yeah, that's the one i was thinking of

[harsh abyss]

Most builds don't need lots of uniques to function, but because of the way uniques are mostly easy to drop and LP being a thing, lots of people slot their "BIS" unique into the slot and then add the affixes you'd mainly look for to those as a way to show what an ultra perfect endgame setup would look like.

That's why you'll see uniques in basically every slot on most builds.

[scarlet totem]

so, out of that list, are you playing with some? most? Trying to get an idea of whether it's possible to transition with only a couple of pieces...and i am not yet at 1000 mana

[scarlet totem]

thanks

[past obsidian]

Technically all you need is the belt, and at 800 mana it is barely playable - I transitioned to the coc build at 800 mana and felt slow at first, and then things got a lot better as i gain more mana. 800 mana is barely enough because you need to tap static orb to kill elites that will drain your mana really quickly during mapping.

[mystic tundra]

im planning to just farm 600 corruption with it. the other build is more designed for single target and you lose some AOE. it's better for bossing if thats your focus, but AOE/echo clear, this is better. and it's proven it can handle 1000 corruption etc.

[scarlet totem]

good to know, thanks for info

[scarlet totem]

well, have some additional gearing grinding to do then 😀

[scarlet totem]

if i go with this, it would be echo farming to start until i hav enough upgraded gear to sole focus on bossing

[past obsidian]

I think frozen is playing a variant with static orb right now

[mystic tundra]

Yeah he switched to that variant.

[past obsidian]

How is it doing compared to the glacier coc meteor variant?

I mean, frozen seems a very smart guy

I actually think this build is better

[mystic tundra]

this pretty much sums up what he said about it

[gloomy topaz]

tbh Static Orb is too effective and efficient at killing boss nothing even comes close

[mystic tundra]

yup if you are primarily bossing, nothing beats it

[gloomy topaz]

also makes that you never have too much mana since it scales / can instantly empty your bank to use Focus
tried FC and it sometime doesn't empty fast enough also FPS issue with my scuffed lap

[past obsidian]

I havent looked into the math but I do feel like captain noobs build have higher damage potential in maps, for bossing either papa or captain noobs build is gonna one shot

I think I will eventually swap to that build as it is easier on my eyes without meteor involved

[mystic tundra]

higher damage potential than FC spark?

[past obsidian]

Just comparing to the coc meteor. I feel like at some point meteor stops scaling, but claw does not. But with glacier you get to freeze stuff around.

The incentive for using static orb is apparent, the rest is just to figure out a good trash killing spell(s) for map clearing. Both the glacier + coc meteor and claw have their pros and cons.

[mystic tundra]

true. Tough part is getting to 1500+ mana

[past obsidian]

How is claw clearing in maps? I am not sure if I will like it over coc meteor clearing in maps becuase the meteor aoe and targeting are pretty insane

[mystic tundra]

I'm only pushing 300s right now but its very fast. don't need to aim really, just a couple clicks towards the mobs and keep moving along.

I haven't played coc meteor so, can't compare personally. claw isn't a screen wide AOE though.

[past obsidian]

Meteor is sort of screen wide but my problem with that is it's damage feels kinda meh and procs of meteor isnt always reliable, but obviously i lack a little crit to cap glacier

[mystic tundra]

for what corruption?

[past obsidian]

I am doing 200. I mean the meteor damage is still solid, but sometimes there is still leftover in spite of a rain of meteors

[waxen sigil]

^_^ check now

[past obsidian]

For slamming stardial - elemental damage or spell damage?

[ebon rain]

t7 int.

[tepid barn]

😐

[stuck fable]

Meta is static orb now?

[tepid barn]

600 ？appetizer？@trueogre

idk if i can make it this cycle again i have too much work and not enough time to play..anyway i dont think i have a chance to beat your builds anyway

[plush anchor]

Man, decisions.

[plush anchor]

is this ONLY available from Soulfire Bastion?

[main apex]

Hey.
I'm trying to do the first level of arena says level 50, I'm lovely 82 and I'm running level 90 monolath, but I can't even complete the first level of arena.I just die every time I don't understand

[thick bridge]

anyone have a loot filter for volcanic orb?

[gentle mango]

yes

[plush anchor]

guess ill have to keep grindin it...

[gentle mango]

i'm assuming shatterstrike

you can kinda just not use it until you feel like you need more defense/ward generation

[radiant breach]

Guys is there a build which has a unique synergy like the spark charge one i linked below? I played using this build at release and i loved it a lot, so i was wondering if there other builds that have unique\interesting synergies?

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/sorcerer-leveling-guide

[queen mason]

T6 affix in this screenshot is pretty rare and I has single wand own this affix only 🙃

And I need to find this affix under T6/T7 with T5 crit multiplier at least. How tough this task is!

[gloomy topaz]

fresh drop from Nemesis lol

[waxen sigil]

!! hope we can play again sometime more co-op like, in this game or another bro!

[tepid barn]

👍🏻alright man

[south monolith]

Is there a secret to getting stand of souls, im at 300c now and i realllly need it, maybe it will help me live longer.

[worn valley]

Really struggling with Maxroll glacier build. Damages seems ok but I’m running oom on boss fights around 50%hp and then it’s just slowly chipping away at them. I’m around 1.2k hp, 2k static ward (5k ish in combat) mana is 700. Crit chance around 65%. I know the build says to get 100% crit and suggests mana over 600 is enough to sustain. But I cannot get close to 100% without losing major survivability. Any other variations that would be worth looking at? I’m at 200c btw

[sacred flume]

anyone got a flame reave 1.1 build to share?

[merry veldt]

CoF r10 makes it a quite common drop

[gloomy topaz]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKdnwvXQ
what's your gear?
700 mana is really quite low for Glacier
should aim for 1k3 ish. A decently rolled Unstable Core + Arcane Visage helm helps a lot
this is rather budget enough maybe

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (62) / Runemaster (31)

General:

▸ Health: 877, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 1,513.41, Regen: 11.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 313%, Regen: 174/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 68 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 66% / 103% / 77% / 66% / 92% / 99%
▸ EHP: 1,154 / 1,054 / 1,154 / 1,268 / 1,059 / 1,154 / 1,154

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 175
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,081)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Glacier (22)
• Flame Ward (22)
• Static Orb (24)
• Teleport (21)
• Focus (21)

Used unique items:

• Unstable Core
• Marina's Lost Soul
• Strands of Souls
• Transient Rest
• The Invoker's Static Touch
• Julra's Stardial
• Strong Mind
• Knowledge of an Erased Mage

[gloomy topaz]

also you supposed to use Static Orb for bossing

[worn valley]

Sorry don’t have gear handy as I’m at work currently. I’m putting 4-5 hours in every evening and honestly cannot seem to find any reasonable upgrades that give + mana along with other desirable stats or has the potential to be forged into a decent one. I’ve seen some builds use the static orb for bossing but found it weird that maxroll has zero mention of it and reckons glacier is more than enough. I know maxroll is far from the best but I liked the simplicity layout of the builds etc. will take a look at the build you linked when I get home as I have all the prices needed with +1/2lp so should hopefully be a smooth transition. Was using the lightless about helm but maybe there’s a certain breakpoint instead of just insta equipping

[plush anchor]

yes im doin shatterstrike and I do feel I need more ward :/

Hell, i also feel very underpowered. Im only lvl 72 but I feel 100cor should be a breeze and its not.

[marsh oasis]

I'm playing plasma orb RM, and i'm struggling HARD at 100cor. Yeah man.

I have all of the uniques, but i'm missing Slams on Helm, and Chest..and Relic,and that is making the build basically unplayable.

[celest urchin]

What's the meta builds for RM atm ?

[plush anchor]

yeah its crazy how you can have mostly everything except some slams and the build will feel awful.

[marsh oasis]

I thought it was plasma orb, but at level 87 i still need a hundred more hours before i'm even close to beating Aberoth.

[full bluff]

Frostbite frost claw runemaster still works pretty well. But harder to manage mana now and less ward and defenses.

[marsh oasis]

The good news is, ... I'm learning the boss mechanics for the first time in 550 hours. lol

[molten lily]

anyone have an opinion on whether coc meteor or frostclaw is better for the static orb mana stack setup?

[noble goblet]

i had no Slams at cor 100 and was doing pretty fine. i assume u lack a bit of damage? can u screenshot the char menu ?

also which idols do you use ?

i was running cor 100 w/o reowyns and criterion, after switching to both of those uniques i adapted the idols to the suggested ones on maxroll with cast speed on light aegis and increaded light damage... damagewise 1 shotting most mobs but i lack a bit of defense now, since my dex is only at around 25 and dodge at around 350

[marsh oasis]

It's not about damage, always about survivability. I could get 400 nec res, but i can't beat any boss then. lol I'm doing mostly fine, but i still die to nemesis, and bosses at level 87

[sleek elbow]

Can I get some advice on damage upgrades for my build? I finally hit 300 corruption but my killing efficiency is much much slower. This is a frost claw build and using meteor for mana regen

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/qyietstorm/character/qyietstorm

[marsh oasis]

I got my int up there, Res just forget about it. Not sure where to add them other than finding GG rings, and gloves.

[noble goblet]

basic movement speed is also pretty low, but i would go for more res in the idols instead of the current ones...

u need at least capped res..

whats your reduced bonus crit ?

[marsh oasis]

Only at 28% on the gloves. I missed the BINK on the helm

[noble goblet]

i see

[marsh oasis]

I can't even do tier 4 julra for the movement speed slam on the boots. This build is..... I don't think it's that good without GG gear

[past obsidian]

For claw build, what's the most important roll on the enigma?

[marsh oasis]

I might go for capped res, but the damage is nice with the idols

[noble goblet]

well i had no problem cor 100 w/o reowyn and criterion,

[marsh oasis]

I might try her in a bit, but i really think i just die.

[sleek elbow]

Probably spark charge chance

[noble goblet]

until lvl 93 i was using older gear due to overcapping res and up to 5k ward. but that was w/o the idolsetup similar to yours

[marsh oasis]

How did you reach 5k ward? That's my big problem actually.

I can only get around 3.2K in a fight.

[noble goblet]

i had 2-3 items with good ward/second and lots of ward retention%

and the barbute helmet

[marsh oasis]

ward per sec on what items?

[noble goblet]

i think it was chest, relic and gloves iirc

the one feather relic has basic stat ward/second f.e.

[marsh oasis]

aaah, so not the heart. Yeah this build has a couple too many uniques i think

[noble goblet]

no i dont have the heart yet :(

[marsh oasis]

The build guide says life leach: on lighting damage is the best sustain.

I need one more point in it before i decide whether to keep playing the build.

It's a passive.

[noble goblet]

which build guide is that?

[marsh oasis]

The maxroll plasma orb corruption one.

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/plasma-orb-runemaster-guide#gear--header

[noble goblet]

yeah im following the same guide

[mystic tundra]

time to respec to glacier? 😦

[past obsidian]

Acid flask trap

Nvm, that build doesnt use this either

[noble goblet]

is glacier a thing with acid flask?

[past obsidian]

Acid flask is with rogue

[gentle mango]

only really good for a frostbite build

[noble goblet]

yeah i know

thats why im asking :d

[mystic tundra]

into the stash it goes

[patent palm]

34 forging potential. Want health -> armour/ armour % / armour + bonus / necro res / cold res / void res / poison res. Think I try to despair it (~34% chance) and then try chaos (no clue what odds of success are with the affix weights) . Any alternate suggestions?

[rapid hinge]

for use or slam?

[patent palm]

either I suppose. Base is usable (runed visage). But moreso wanting to slam

I just want the best chances of getting the 4 affixes that I want, don't mind if health is sealed on it.

[waxen sigil]

Chaos twice

Check modpool of suffixes

You have a lot of good acceptable hits

Also despair use a lot of expected FP so even if it hit it can leave u with t2 trying to craft later

[marsh oasis]

I can't even kill T3 julra with nearly fully geared plasma orb at level 88. LOL. I'm nearly done with this build man.

[waxen sigil]

Brother how does meteor net you mana regen

[patent palm]

teleport mana tunnel + meteor has a refund node that i think works

[sleek elbow]

Teleport gives a mana free cast and meteor has % mana regained of cost

[past obsidian]

Is frostclaw worse than glacier for mana management? I dont know about claw but you gain a lot of mana from glacier crits

[sleek elbow]

Yeah spark charge frost claw is a lot more fun than glacier for me. Gives you range and it auto targets

[waxen sigil]

Kk cool, umm try finishing the first node right in frostclaw

[patent palm]

expected FP used is identical between despair and chaos. both show 1-18

[waxen sigil]

Oh wait

I realize u have to be 40+ mana cost on fc right

[mystic tundra]

yes

[waxen sigil]

You can’t use glyph of hope tho right

[patent palm]

you can't use glyph of hope for either chaos or despair... all three are glyphs :p

[waxen sigil]

And then u have to raise it from 0

[patent palm]

ah, that part is true. chaosing into the desired stat would be some "free" levels

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/affixes not sure how to use this tool to calculate the odds of chaosing what I want. Might spreadsheet it

[jagged apex]

I got 4 lp firestarters torch. Does anybody here have guide for fireball ignite mage using it?

[sleek elbow]

Just slap fire/elemental damage, int. And ignite chance and fire pen if you really wanna be op

[past obsidian]

Claw players - does the spark chance on enigma roll make a big difference

[rapid hinge]

no

[past obsidian]

which one do I use to slam on a 2lp enigma?

[hushed sigil]

Right, at the least you could get crit or mana instead of just mana

The thing about slapping exalts on a unique is that you should getting affixes you want more of, not using it to cover things you need. So avoid like putting res on exalt slams, unless you're using it for overcap

[past obsidian]

Thanks. I maxed crit multi, then how do I deal with those suffixes?

[hushed sigil]

crit multi has a cap now??

[past obsidian]

I mean, I maxed the prefix to t5 it on the item

[hushed sigil]

Honestly I'd save the 2LP for something better, unless you're a sorc that wants more mana

[marsh oasis]

Is there any other runemaster build that's decent aside from Plasma orb?

[past obsidian]

Yes, I am sorc. And 2lp enigma's are not that rare

[marsh oasis]

Plasma orb literally just made me quit the season. I'm done. Can't even kill T3 Julra.

[hushed sigil]

Fair I'm just apprehensive about crafting the Mana/ crit mult since that only thing I can think of is removing the fire res and adding a different affix if the multi is t5.

[past obsidian]

I can probably chaos the freeze rate and get some useful resist I am lacking

[rapid hinge]

FRM is an useful stat tho

[hushed sigil]

like i said don't count on your legend slams for stuff like res. It's not going to be pretty if the rolls avoid the res but then it doesnt get the rolls

[rapid hinge]

you better get res from somewhere else not requiring a slam

[hushed sigil]

also I hear ice stuffs awesome on sorc now, so yeah FRM might not be bad

[past obsidian]

well, this is what it turned out. it is what it is now

[rapid hinge]

more FRM = more ward per cast for FC

[past obsidian]

oh shoot I didnt know

[rapid hinge]

not super big but it's something

[hushed sigil]

they kept retaliate and ailment cleanse though right i still need those

[past obsidian]

look at this base

It is for enigma mapping, so mana is not "that" crucial

[hushed sigil]

With the sorc changes is melee sorc feasible now?

[waxen sigil]

U follo guide??

[marsh oasis]

Yes, it's bad man. IMO.

Every other build can hit 300 corruption with eyes closed. Plasma orb takes extremely specific rolls on literally every piece.

Also requires spamming potions to dodge which is just lame IMO.

[rapid hinge]

eh, no. Dont go for staff version early on when you dont have items

[waxen sigil]

Oh yea staff build is brutal I did it in beta took me forever to get everything

[rapid hinge]

i think you're just tunnel visioning into the guide

[marsh oasis]

I'm not that early, but it just sucks IMO. What's the other version?

[waxen sigil]

Wound up w 4-5k armor wars dodge

[rapid hinge]

well that IS early

[waxen sigil]

Ur only getting 70 dmg from ur weap at this point

[marsh oasis]

level 88 with every single unique? nice troll bud. I'm done

[noble goblet]

now u have decent res but lack tons of int, also whats your reduced bonus damage and ward atm ?

[waxen sigil]

Like it’s good bc it gets 500 not 70 lol

[marsh oasis]

O i think. This build is pretty frustrating. I'll probably try something else tomorrow.

I dropped the int, because the dex gave me more damage. At least right now

[rapid hinge]

well the build and RM in general has been nerfed/fixed several times since that build surfaced, so you might have overexpect a little bit maybe

[noble goblet]

u could go torment warlock f.e. u got enough int items...

[marsh oasis]

I played that last cycle. Very good, very fun build. 🙂

[noble goblet]

also uses the barbute

yeah enjoyed it a lot too

[marsh oasis]

I was like like 500 corruption literally falling asleep. RM just sucks. lol

[noble goblet]

Na Invoker is cool , love the mechanics... but needs time to really shine

[marsh oasis]

I do like the mechanics, i had fun with it up until end game. :/ It's just uber squishy without LP rolls. unplayble IMO.

I just beat T3 Julra though. I had to spam potions and pray for dodge rolls.

[waxen sigil]

I think it’s because u picked a super end game budget build as a starter

[rugged shell]

Is the shattered lance set even usable, ive been thinking of using it for shatter strike but it has so many drawbacks in my opinion to even using it.

Mainly cause you are wasting a ton of suffixes just getting the regen

[marsh oasis]

You might have assumed correctly.

[nimble shoal]

Yeah it is, usually primalist builds, but also doable on shatter strike and some sentinel stuff, I think.

[rugged shell]

Just the knife or the set?

[nimble shoal]

The set, I don't think you'd generally want to ever use the items separately

[rugged shell]

the knifes not half bad atleast

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, maybe not too bad if you use vessel instead of the set relic

[rugged shell]

Yeah I remember looking at the vessel aswell

it would be really good if the relic wasnt a part of the set

[nimble shoal]

It does suffer from being a set item though, no way to upgrade it beyond what it is

[rugged shell]

Yeah, genuenly think they should be able to get lp or something along those lines

since set items ingeneral feel a bit underpowered imo

[nimble shoal]

There's an overhaul to sets planned for the eventual future, hopefully either next cycle or the one after

[rugged shell]

Ah okay

[jaunty widget]

Spell critical chance is the same as critical strike multiplier?

[rugged shell]

what?

critical chance = chance to land a critical hit.

Multiplier = the damage multiplier if you land a critical hit

So if you have 10% critical chance you have a 10% chance to land a critical hit.

And if you have a 200% multiplier it increases your damage by 200% on critical hit.

[jaunty widget]

My bad hahahaha I was doing 2 things at the same time. My intention was to ask, is there any difference between spell critical chance or critical chance? They do the same regarding the difference on the name, right?

[rugged shell]

Oh yeah theres not

critical chance is just general critical hit chance (applies to melee and spells)

the trade off is usually that its a lower % than the general one

[jaunty widget]

Great great, so if I need spell critical chance but I got a really good critical chance item. I can use that on the unique

[rugged shell]

Yup

[jaunty widget]

Thanks man

[dull zodiac]

I could be wrong but i thought that if you had say 10% crit chance and 10% spell crit chance. You'd end up at 20% crit chance with spells?

[rugged shell]

its just 10%

Its just specifies that its for spells

[marsh oasis]

Dude, is there a shield version of Plasma orb RM? The ward nerf really destroyed this build end game.

[gentle mango]

i mean you can just put a shield on for any build

[waxen sigil]

Not for that skills that requires a 2h sword or axe

Ayyyy got em!

[gentle mango]

[past obsidian]

How does frost claww have lightning visual effect?

[jaunty widget]

You have to unlock it on the skill tree. It changes the prophety to lightning instead of cold dmg

[past obsidian]

ah, no wonder my damage sucked

[lilac dawn]

node is called Spark Artillery

[past obsidian]

does claw have any mana management mechanics?

[waxen sigil]

Yes it can cost a lot and do more stuff or be cheap and refund mana

[scarlet totem]

Hate to ask, but couldn't find it back in this channel (I know it was discussed), but...when computing Crit Chance you take the base (5%) plus anything on gear (like 6% on skulls) plus anything from a tree (like 8%) and add them together (19% in this example) then multiply by increased crit chance (from passive tree, skills and gear) then add that number to the summed crit chance (19% in this example)...so, if you have a sum of say the 19% and an increased value of say 400%, you would have a total crit chance of 19% plus 76% for 95%....do I have this right? So, you have to look thru all of you gear and trees to get these numbers since tool tips and character sheet don't really give it to you, right?

[unreal umbra]

you can use last epoch tools which adds all the crit chances for you for that last step

whats your account name?

[scarlet totem]

ok, thanks, but do i have it right?

[unreal umbra]

yeah its right

[scarlet totem]

reactor101

[unreal umbra]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/reactor101/character/Major

go to offense tab, mouse over spell crit chance and it gives you the break down

hang on, that last bit of your calc is wrong

say you had 19% base crit and 400% additional, it's .19 * 400 = 76

then 76 + 19 = total crit chance

[scarlet totem]

think that is what i said?

[unreal umbra]

ok, i misead, yeah that's right

i didnt see you do the multiplication, but you did do it

[feral cairn]

Can someone confirm if + Fire Damage core stats actually exists on weapons? Cause all i see is + Lightning Damage on Staves, Wands/Scepters and Catalysts.

Im not talking about Affixes, obviously i know it exists there.

[scarlet totem]

i see the tool values but i get confused as to whether it is accurate...as an example, i know i have the base 5% but i also have 8% from the Glacier trree ata minimum...the le tools just shows universal crit chance, no?

[unreal umbra]

yeah so glacier crit isnt incldued in that sheet

flick said there's an actual glacier calculator though on there, not sure where it is

or calc yourself

so 5+8=13 base crit. .13 * 202.22 = 26.28

26.28 + 13 = 39.2886

[scarlet totem]

right, thanks for bearing with me...yes, Glacier has a DPS calculator in the tools, along with a few other skills

[waxen sigil]

Mage is back on top guys

[mystic tundra]

@unreal umbra what can you do to force your character profile to update?

[unreal umbra]

i dunno, i think it just does it auto pretty quick

trueogres profile already updated so cant see what he did. rip 😦

[mystic tundra]

mine won't update since I last checked it about 20 mins ago, even relogged

changed my helm and wanna see the diff in crit %

[waxen sigil]

What do you mean, I trapped all my enemies with black hole and then used fireballs and lightning blasts to destroy them

Oh and good old reliable disintegrate static combo

[iron knoll]

New to the game and I've leveled a mage to level 70 with the runecaster build. I was looking at doing the plasma build for end game is now a good time to switch?

[waxen sigil]

Which version

[iron knoll]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/plasma-orb-runemaster-guide

[waxen sigil]

I don’t suggest this and I was the first plasma orb

This is not for new character

[iron knoll]

what do you suggest?

[waxen sigil]

Well first I suggest to play your own spells and experiment until you get stuck

And then I would do frostclaw bc going for this staff is such a bait for a new player

[mystic tundra]

@unreal umbra Yeah still not updating for me since the first time I checked. rip

[marsh oasis]

I highly suggest you do NOT try the Plasma orb build. It just doesn't work end game without perfect rolls in every spot.

[iron knoll]

Which frostclaw build do you suggest? I've seen a couple that use frost claw

[waxen sigil]

Okay no it doesn’t have to have perfect rolls, but it needs to juggle and balance stats that mage’s have less access to than most- your damage is tied to the defenses being high and all equal

Doesn’t matter can’t go wrong w frostclaw for new player

Easy to change around gear and spec

[iron knoll]

the skills seem to be the biggest pain to change more so than gear is that correct? The leveling of them at least.

I'm only about 5 days into the game and like it so far.

[forest bane]

so tempted to use this over crystal skull

[past obsidian]

What build?

woah I got a t6 int slam on my stardial and mapping with coc meteor became so much better

[forest bane]

Coc Meteor, but I'm thinking of switching to frost claw / static orb

I saw empy's vid, he said never late is bugged so 5 points in that and you don't really need the crystal skull to be crit capped all the time

[past obsidian]

have you seen this? https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/mana-stacking-elementalist-sorcerer-meteor-glacier-static-orb#passives

[silk pewter]

Mana stacking Elementalist Sorcerer (Meteor, Glacier, Static Orb) Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1b

Class

Mage / Sorcerer

Used skills

• Teleport
• Meteor
• Static Orb
• Focus
• Glacier

Used unique items

• Peak of the Mountain
• Unstable Core
• Wrongwarp
• Harbinger of Stars
• Transient Rest
• Julra's Stardial
• Julra's Stardial
• Strong Mind
• Stormcarved Testament

Tags

Boss Killer / Monolith Farmer / Ranged

Created by chunkypapa · Jul 17, 2024, 12:15 AM

[forest bane]

Yeah I did, but he doesn't take never late in the passives, which is a flat 10% inc crit chance. Isn't that technically more crit instead?

[past obsidian]

I think it could be better to cap crit chance from gears and grab those catalyst and wand passives

oh i didnt know its bugged. that could be interesting

[forest bane]

Exactly

So I thought the 10% perma crit from the node would be better than crystal. double multi t6 and t6 all res is a tad bit better I think

[past obsidian]

yeah if it is indeed bugged then you are correct

[past obsidian]

but never late is only accounting for one spell cast though

[forest bane]

Apparantly at 5 points it stays on permanently

[past obsidian]

oh that's what you mean it is bugged

[forest bane]

Yeah

[past obsidian]

Well, bug like this is here to stay until next cycle.

[waxen sigil]

It has been bugged and reported since the first week runemaster came out

Apparently, They said they fixed it but it didn’t work out to be fixed

[unreal umbra]

i dont get how the bug works, coz even with 8 points in it and with a crystal skull etc, im still seeing white numbers on static orb. but meteor is always critting

[forest bane]

i wish last epoch had a pob of sorts, can't see how much each spell crit chance

but with 5 points it's basically 20% perma crit chance, or maybe I am wrong. The bonus gets added right?

[harsh abyss]

Only for the next non-channeled spell. Every spellcast after that should be back to your normal base

[past obsidian]

With this bug i need to actually now run my toon through planner and see if i am overcapping crit

[waxen sigil]

Brothers you don’t need to do all that

Just take the number on neverlate add 5, that’s your new base crit

Now do your int x 1.03

What are you at now? Manually add up a few more points and u are good. It’s something u can eyeball in like 2 seconds

[past obsidian]

hang on

my int with stardial after teleport is at 108

[waxen sigil]

Ok do you want to be crit capped all the time or not all the time

[past obsidian]

not all the time

[waxen sigil]

Okay you prefer to aim for burst windows

That’s cool and I respect it, 108x 3 is 324

8/8 neverlate + 5 is 21 base

Or 15 base if you only put 5/8

Ok take 15 OR 21 and increase it by 324%

Don’t forget any other sources of base crit u might have in skill trees or on items whatever.

[forest bane]

Wouldn't that put his base crit at like 45-48%?

Or my math just sucks

[waxen sigil]

But how is that his base crit if he multiplied it by his int

[past obsidian]

I have an additional 300% from trees and items

[waxen sigil]

It’s a new value that isn’t “base crit” anymore

Okay so increase your base by 624% that’s your real crit chance

[waxen sigil]

I have an important lesson for you son.

When we do this multiplying “by an increase” , it can be confusing because something that’s increase by 324% looks like you just go *3.24 right ??

Well no! You’re leavin off the first 100%

So you ask yourself “well how the hell does that make sense”.

And it’s like, well, if you increase something by 100%, you instinctively know that you’re doubling it. You’re not just multiplying by 1, because that’s not an increase!

[past obsidian]

Per this calculation I have 6 points into never late and now my crit for orb after teleport is 106%

does int give more damage or just crit?

[waxen sigil]

Mouse over it for more information, this crit is assuming you took at least 5/8 in the first int sorc passive

[forest bane]

So with 75 int and base 25% crit, how much would be my current crit be with 5/8 never late?

[waxen sigil]

Let’s see you try to work it out

[past obsidian]

so does this mean instead of stacking int on some items i get to stack other things

[forest bane]

i meant base as in spell critical strike chance in the char info

[waxen sigil]

I see, it would be something like that, but higher than you reckoned

[past obsidian]

I think with this information I am going to swap now officially to the captain noobz build

[forest bane]

the frostclaw build?

[past obsidian]

yeah for a couple reasons (correct me if I am wrong): 1. I don't need to swap between meteor (for echo) and ascendance (bossing) 2. gonna put all these int i have stacked into better use (with enigma), otherwise all these int is going to waste

[forest bane]

I think both

But more prio on Mana iirc

[forest bane]

CoC Meteor I don't think you need to swap to ascendance. Just base ascendance is more than enough

[past obsidian]

oh, cool. Well, everything is overkill now i guess.

and at some point i will resort to a build that's easier on my toaster and my eyes

[unreal umbra]

never late bug is really good for frozensent/noobzor build coz it uses fragment, so you lose out so much crit chance by not using a crystal skull. forces you into prismatic gaze, phantom grip. but they still use them, even knowing this info

[forest bane]

Thats' what was bothering me

[waxen sigil]

Spark charges don’t get neverlate bug

[unreal umbra]

how come?

what about static orb, does that work? im still seeing white numbers, check out my toon with 8 points into never late https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/spicorr/character/spicorrmage

[past obsidian]

Could it be some tendril damage or any sort of additional damage?

[woven lark]

never late bug is what is is, a bug. it's gona get fixed any moment now, i wouldnt recommend buildling around it

[unreal umbra]

i was thinking that, it looks like a pretty chunky number though, over 200k

[past obsidian]

without the bug frozen build can still fly through maps I am sure. Important thing is static orb gets crit benefit that's the boss killer

[unreal umbra]

well the bug has been around forever, and they still haven't fixed it. why would they fix it now? maybe next cycle.

i dunno, must be some weird interaction with static orb. coz when empy tried to one shot aberroth, his gear should definitely be able to do it, but it was nowhere even close. he wasn't using crystal skull though. then compare that to chunkypapa who can do it easily, but he's not using never late bug (uses peak to crit cap legit)

[forest bane]

He used peak and crystal skull

that's over 80% base spell crit

[worthy jackal]

best build for sorcer is glacier?

[unreal umbra]

chunkypapa is crit capped in the julra window

i think that's what he said

[forest bane]

I like frozen's build. coc can be annoying when pack is not dense

[unreal umbra]

yeah for sure

i might change.

[past obsidian]

I am absolutely with you

[worthy jackal]

wich frozen build?

[ebon rain]

He should be. I have similar gear and I'm at over 100 with julra.

[past obsidian]

Do you know how frozen's build deal with mana management? comprared to his build, the coc meteor has minimum mana issue with glacier returning much mana

[unreal umbra]

are you talking about the original build or the noobzor variant?

[forest bane]

No idea

[unreal umbra]

original build uses meteor refund tech to mana sustain. you can do this with not that much of a mana pool and its still ok.

[past obsidian]

noobz

[unreal umbra]

noobzor build requires bigger mana pool, doesn't use meteor refund tech but static orb refund instead . but because the amount you get back is based on how big your mana pool is, you need bigger mana pool for this to work

[scarlet totem]

which Frozen buiild are we talking about...his original FC/Spark or FC/Staic Orb?

[forest bane]

FC/static orb

[past obsidian]

FC/orb, or the noobz build

[scarlet totem]

got it

[worthy jackal]

frostclaw static orb is better than glacier?

[past obsidian]

how does static orb refund work?

[unreal umbra]

Same thing, free after teleport, but get a refund

[past obsidian]

oh so technically claw does not have any mana sustain like glacier has

[unreal umbra]

Yeah, I mean you will run out at times but you can just focus back up

[past obsidian]

I never knew that it does not have sustain like that. Mana refund based on percentage is so nice with glacier crits

[forest bane]

Meh, sad % roll

[unreal umbra]

Noobzor build requires pretty good gear coz you need both int and mana

[unreal umbra]

Still good!

[woven moss]

Playing a mage is cheating

[forest bane]

I tried other builds, but nothing was as fun as sorc :<

Give me a GG warpath build and i'll play it 😛

[marsh oasis]

It's anti cheating actually. lol

[worthy jackal]

nice i swapped into glacier and cant kill monoliths

[past obsidian]

this is the claw tree provided by cptnoobzor in frozen's video - how does it not use lightning conversion?

[unreal umbra]

Claw doesn't actually do damage, damage is from the spark charges

[past obsidian]

To abuse this bug even further I can drop int on my stardial and get things like spell damage

[worthy jackal]

why unstable core is soo expensive?

[unreal umbra]

Everyone wants the phat mana pool. Then usually need multiple coz it's most likely 1lp so 1/4 chance to hit the t7 mana slam

Do the 0 LP ones still sell good?

[mystic tundra]

I thought it was interesting that his semi budget build had T7 int slam on chest but min maxed version was T7 mana with T5 int.

[unreal umbra]

Hmm

[mystic tundra]

I'm trying to work my way towards that build and just found my 2nd core with 1LP. but now I don't know what to try and slam into it lol.

[unreal umbra]

There's probably reasoning behind it, I mean depends if you are item swapping for bosses or not too

[past obsidian]

I would say if you have other ways to cap crit, then slam t7 mana onto it

[mystic tundra]

Yeah I was looking at the Echos planner from Frozen's vid, there was a separate bossing one too. But I'd assume with this build, even the echo verison can melt bosses with 1500+ mana.

[past obsidian]

because though int scales with spark charge damage, it probably takes on less priority compared to mana

[mystic tundra]

Even the bossing version of the planner had T7 int on chest

[past obsidian]

mana also gives you quality of life as you run through all sorts of content, which is not shown as stats on paper

[mystic tundra]

I think for these two looks like they just swap exalted catalyst + confluence ammy for enigma and exalted ammy

cant believe how hard its been to find T7 int rings

[unreal umbra]

Yeah I struggled at first

[mystic tundra]

I have like 15 julra rings waiting

[unreal umbra]

I hit a t7 julra slam but didn't need the 2nd one yet so didn't bother

[south yoke]

only for slam? D:

[mystic tundra]

yeah I think only one is really needed

[south yoke]

too risky if i use removal so i can try to get int or mana? xd

[mystic tundra]

I still have issues doing T4 julra

[unreal umbra]

Gotta risk it for the biscuit

[mystic tundra]

Orion's eye would solve all my troubles

[past obsidian]

I have just been slamming t6 int here and there while reserving the well rolled stardials for t7

how come never late bug doesn't affect spark charges

[mystic tundra]

ill prob start doing the same

I wanna try out that build already but still need quite a few things to get to 1500+ mana

[past obsidian]

I hope spark charges damage better outscale meteor damage, because all that int is going into waste if it does not

[mystic tundra]

damn

[south yoke]

hi

[unreal umbra]

hello

[south yoke]

which one is better ?
can u help me? its always int a better stat for items? im mage

[unreal umbra]

generally ye

[mystic tundra]

@unreal umbra is it even worth doing julra T4 unless you need the higher slam cap?

[unreal umbra]

when i was hunting julras, i did t1s. because guaranteed 2-3 rings from that, nothing else can drop

but, t4 has a better chance at 2lp if you are going for that

i end up getting no rings and all somnias sadge

[mystic tundra]

Yeah I could care less about hunting 2LP julra, just gonna botch the slam anyways. just trying to get one Julra with T6+ int slam on it

already bricked 3 in a row and out of rings to slam now

also bricked my 2nd core on the 50/50 😄

[unreal umbra]

this is the first time ive farmed julras specifcally, otherwise i would always just do t4 and there'd be no other reason to do lower than that

[mystic tundra]

gotcha. you're COF right? if farming rings, is the BIS setup for lenses to use 2x of the double rewards paired with one of the 10% increase chance to find rings, then just focus on either rare rings or exalted rings specifically?

[unreal umbra]

yeah i'm cof

yeah that's the strat. it kinda sucks, we only really have 1 lens slot because the other 2 are must takes

[past obsidian]

I run rarity, item type, double count (rank 10

[mystic tundra]

yeah agreed

[past obsidian]

How do you know that?

[bold mason]

Anyone else struggling with keyboard inputs for the plasma orb build on maxroll? I switched to the build today at lvl 75 and keep messing up the inputs to get f/l/f runes to pop runic invocation to pop plasma orb. Any tips?

[past obsidian]

my claw costs 39.6 mana. Same for you?

[mystic tundra]

41.8

[past obsidian]

I think because I have -4 cost on my wrongwarp

[mystic tundra]

yeah if you're using wrong it must be -3 I think

"spark charges from arcane current dont proc at 39.6, only the fragment 10-12% procs. huge frostclaw damage loss at 39.6 with -4 wrongwarp "

[unreal umbra]

i think you can do -4 if you take no gift of winter

[past obsidian]

I have been testing out never late on spark charges

[mystic tundra]

@waxen sigil damn is that you hitting 1746 arena??

[past obsidian]

I think I still am seeing some white numbers

but i like this play style so much better

and look at what i just found

[mystic tundra]

grats and gl on the slam

[past obsidian]

i was like - wtf

[mystic tundra]

very unfortunate roll on the mana though.

[gloomy topaz]

yeah min and max unstable core is night and day

120 mana is like essentially a t7 mana line difference by itself

[mystic tundra]

CoF is starting to feel kinda bad to play idk

[past obsidian]

Yeah I am wondering if I should slam t7 on that core at all

[mystic tundra]

absolutely should try

[gloomy topaz]

I think CoF would feel less bad if you can instant slam

[unreal umbra]

i would save your t7 mana exalt for a better unstable core

[gloomy topaz]

forcing to run one full dungeon just to try once? Really?
no point to drop like 100 lp1 cause why bother

[mystic tundra]

what about when we have multiple T7 mana exalts but cant find unstable core xD

[past obsidian]

guys, I have an nnouncement to make. I haven't downed t3 julra yet.

[unreal umbra]

its ok, you'll get there

[mystic tundra]

CoF in theory sounds good but just really sometimes doesn't net much, especially when you need to target farm uniques

[waxen sigil]

Hypothesis testing and conclusions based on empirical data

[unreal umbra]

yeah judgement call, but as cof peasants you have to make do with the resources you have

[past obsidian]

I have done some testing myself and think can agree with you.

[gentle mango]

no it's garbage

[waxen sigil]

I just know some things from playin, ya’known.
But don’t take peoples word for things if u wanna test something I say do it. Lot of times ppl told me things wouldn’t work but they did big time

[unreal umbra]

i have a 2lp unstable core but it rolled with 19 mana also, sadge

[mystic tundra]

its like I've found 30+ phantom grip, 15+ engima, many of which were LP2, even 10ish ladle with a few LP2, but can't get unstable core on target farm (only two LP1 so far and both random drops) or can't get more gaze, testament, etc. even wrongwrap drops easily it seems.

then all of that work just to brick the slam on your hard to find LP1 unique

[gentle mango]

i found a 3LP exsang and swapped to low life before i saw my first 2LP static shell

[past obsidian]

does static orb proc spark charge? if so, do the damage matter?

[mystic tundra]

I guess it's something

[waxen sigil]

Well, what are the conditions for proccing spark charge? Does your character/‘s static orb meet them? I know mine doesn’t proc spark charges, but yours might be different.

[gentle mango]

hmm i'm already fearing the lack of blackhole ignite scaling

weird how much lack of support ignite has in general compared to frostbite and bleed

[mystic tundra]

not too shabby

[harsh abyss]

That health and mana roll though 😦

[mystic tundra]

I know... 6-8% woulda been nice. cant win em all

Im doing another one of these right now that did roll 8% and 20 weavers, but its already bricked on the first 2 affixes added lol

[rustic thistle]

Is spellblade hard to use?

[gentle mango]

depends what you mean

it's a melee so relatively yes

[rustic thistle]

I have way less expierence with ranged/caster classes in my 3 decades of gaming

[ebon rain]

interesting chest placement 😂 (wait... is that chest always there?)

[warped rain]

I’m confused with the spellblade skilltree with using a sword instead of a wand for stuff. I’m not to far in the game and haven’t come across any swords that seem to have stats that relate to the spellblade scaling or am I missing something.

[gentle mango]

yes, also one in the other timeline

[ebon rain]

learn something everyday I guess. 8 100s and never realized that. yikes.

[gentle mango]

they drop garbage anyway, pretty sure they're scaled for the t1 version

[forest bane]

Is runeword cataclyms worth taking the points?

[gentle mango]

man it's so sad how bad ignite is

[merry veldt]

Outcome is any unique helm

I see. Yeah ignore my bad try to help ^^

[harsh thistle]

I remember seeing a cool black hole build with ignite, is this not viable in 1.1 ?

https://www.icy-veins.com/last-epoch/sorcerer-black-hole-ignite-endgame-build

[gentle mango]

i'm trying it atm, it just doesn't scale well

[harsh thistle]

I see

[gentle mango]

map clear is terrible and squishy af

[harsh thistle]

tbh I value clear higher than single target dmg now, cause good clear means more favor, more survivability, faster mapping in general. Single target dmg can always easily be improved with better gear while clear speed is usually very limited by skill mechanics

so yeah I'd be frustrated with this build problems as well then haha

[gentle mango]

yeah, idk maybe it scales okay for bossing but this is just pain

[deep locust]

Anyone tested this so far? trying the maxroll spark charge sorc bild.. with the slight variations done in Bigdaddy's version..
i see 1 point of arcane current taken in maxroll whereas the other has gone for distant spark.. curently i dont see any skill taking 40 mana to proc the arcane current spark charge reliably.. theres also the option of 5 points in spellbaldes essense duel for the attk speed. So which would be the best to go with? 1 point in arcane curent and max essense duel or maxing distant spark?

[rapid hinge]

1 point in arcane current doesnt do jackshit, idk what guide you''re looking at but that doenst seem right

you either go 4 points in here for the threshold sparrk charge or no point at all

for 40 mana skill it's either frostclaw/ice barrage/volcanic orb

[gloomy topaz]

Generally any nodes that has ‘reach x points for special effect’ you either put that much amount minimum or don’t bother yeah unless they are prereq to sth

[waxen sigil]

Who else would it be, big fella

[celest urchin]

Hello ! Simple wuestion, on the Reowin fortress, when they say "your ward" is it you ward number at this time or your ward decay ?

[waxen sigil]

At this instance how much ward is protecting you

[rapid hinge]

can you give me some hint on the mechanic you use 🤔
All i can suspect now is that you're using manastrike with some sort of either overflowing mana/OOM(more lean on overflowing mana since you mentioned "infinite DPS" and that's the only thing that i can think of that can give you infinite damage with manastrike)
But havent think of any way how you can do that
Also i saw you use Focus teleport cancelling which can be something reltaed to OOM

[unreal umbra]

is there a reason why no one really goes for lightning pen on any of the current builds?

[rapid hinge]

what build?. for pure spark charge int stack pen is pretty big

[unreal umbra]

anything that uses lightning, static orb or spark charge

like on weapon ppl dont even bother

[celest urchin]

Thanks !

[rapid hinge]

the static orb build using marina there's pretty much zero lightning dam

[unreal umbra]

static orb with wrongwarp though, thats common

ppl make a bis planner and will blatantly leave lightning pen off, as though it's bad

[rapid hinge]

even with wrongwarp i think crit multi + mana is still the better prefix duo

[unreal umbra]

yeah but like not even 3rd prio?

[rapid hinge]

since a big portion of the flat damage is not lightning

[grizzled lily]

Personally I play with confluence of fate and grimoire so lightning pen is not really useful

but sure there are some setups where it will be good

[unreal umbra]

makes sense

[rapid hinge]

i mean if i have a 2LP orian's eye. I'd for sure slam only mana + crit mult on it. So i can use it everywhere

[unreal umbra]

yeah, def not if its a prefix

[rapid hinge]

Pen can be bis in some niche cases, but very suboptimal in all oher cases

[unreal umbra]

but like on a weapon if doing a 2lp slam, getting a pen is an consolation prize if you hit the t7

[rapid hinge]

it's something. Not what ppl looking for but still something

[unreal umbra]

this is my slam food, how would i make it better next time?

[rugged shell]

no sealed affix first of all

[unreal umbra]

huh

its got a sealed affix, and its slam food so it doesnt matter anyway

[rugged shell]

Or can you not roll sealed affixes into lp gear?

[unreal umbra]

yeah it's only the 4 non sealed

[rugged shell]

ah okay.

[unreal umbra]

that sealed affix is just there because i didnt want to risk removing the crit multi

[rugged shell]

Yeah thats fair, I guess what you can do is increase the shock to t5 incase it rolls it.

[unreal umbra]

only reason i didnt was i wanted to creation and higher shock chance not worth risking

[rugged shell]

I mean I dont see what else you could even do, your affixes are nearly as good as you can get right now

since i dont think you could get any better withing 2 or so rerolls.

[mystic tundra]

@unreal umbra pretty sure Frozen’s FC spark build spreadsheet references lightning pen a couple times.

[patent palm]

If you want to creation, I’d do it as it is now I think. Static orb has a chunk of shock chance as well, so you are likely to get to 10 stacks pretty fast. If you are running lightning claw, you’ll hit 10 stacks super quick before your orb burst.

[unreal umbra]

yeah i creationed already

it whiffed hard though feels bad

[waxen sigil]

All of my abilities got infinite damage, not just manastrike, if you notice the flame reaves hitting in millions

[forest bane]

Is this crit ENOUGH for you?

[spice cosmos]

Is Arcane Ascendence worth getting? I am using a Fireball + Meteor + Focus + Flame Ward build at the moment. My fireball is insane right now. With AA, it does 25k dmg per second (im only lvl 50)
If I do use AA, should I get Acuity + buff it to 16 spells instead of 4? (4 literally lasts like 1 or 2 seconds lol)
If I dont use AA, I was thinking of using Flame Rush, (perhaps trying a fire version of Frost Wall, but atm Fireball + Meteor do all the damage that I need to do)

[merry veldt]

With 4% implicit probably not

[forest bane]

It was just a meme

Heard you like crit so I gave you base crit plus crit and then some t7 crit too

[merry veldt]

Reroll the implicit for sake of the meme!

[forest bane]

CURSED

[spare glen]

lmfao as always we see people hiding gear on arena ladder, funniest sht ever in the game with 10k playerbase

[silk bobcat]

what do you guys think of this scuffed void fire aura character?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOvRgZmQ

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (84)

General:

▸ Health: 1,106, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 111.51, Regen: 8.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 152%, Regen: 104/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 17 Dex / 38 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 93% / 43% / 76% / 93% / 93% / 61% / 49%
▸ EHP: 1,567 / 1,183 / 1,567 / 1,726 / 1,599 / 1,440 / 1,244

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 221
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (68)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,114)
▸ Block Chance: 39%, Mitigation: 20% (250)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Enchant Weapon (Passive)

Used skills:

• Flame Reave (20)
• Flame Ward (20)
• Focus (20)
• Enchant Weapon (20)
• Teleport (20)

Used unique items:

• Dark Shroud of Cinders
• Blade of the Forgotten Knight
• Atrophy
• Siphon of Anguish
• Locket of the Forgotten Knight
• Siphon of Anguish
• Stymied Fate
• Defiance of the Forgotten Knight
• Decayed Skull

[silk bobcat]

can sustain 12 stacks with elemental weapon up

[rugged shell]

I assume this isnt theorycrafted? but imported

[silk bobcat]

no this is a rough theorycraft with items i have minus the legendary affixes

[rugged shell]

Ah okay

How much ward are you averaging?

[silk bobcat]

looks like 300/s before on hits

[rugged shell]

I mean max ward wise

id assume around 2k maybe

[silk bobcat]

unsure, i would have to do more math

[rugged shell]

yeah, anyways defences atleast all around look decent

around 4k against physical hits for one shots, then for elements it fluctuates between 2.6-3.5k (1k ward)

[silk bobcat]

yeah idk i have never put a build together only really followed a guide so i dont have much of a frame of reference

[rugged shell]

Yeah thats fair, I really dont know alot about fire aura eighter.

Im just looking at general stats

[silk bobcat]

i thought the experimental health as ward on atrophy with siphon was interesting

the leech keeps you topped

[rugged shell]

Yeah. That just doesent work.

[silk bobcat]

wdym?

[rugged shell]

As you said the leech

[silk bobcat]

i mean as you are losing hp to the experimental affix you are regaining it with the void leech

[rugged shell]

Best thing I can give you is to try and get your cold resist atleast to around 70%

[rugged shell]

Yeah, you are just losing hp. You'd need to be at low hp to gain ward.

[silk bobcat]

ah frick i cant read

i thought it was like exsang where you gained it as ward

[rugged shell]

Exsang work the same way You lose 20% hp and gain 20% of missing hp as ward

[silk bobcat]

bummer that changes things

[rugged shell]

haha, you wouldnt have gained too much ward per second, its not a big loss

[silk bobcat]

immolators could be interesting

[rugged shell]

You'd lose gain around 77% ward per second at 0 hp

Immolators synergises well with ashes of mortality

You could spare a ring slot for it, although its gonna reduce your void dps a bit

and less doom chance.

[silk bobcat]

yeah i will have to look into that

[rugged shell]

Tbh, you should try and focus into one thing. Since you are doing void and fire right now.

But if what you are doing works, then why fix something that works.

[silk bobcat]

yeah just sort of exploring RN

the increased and more void damage is pretty n uts

[rugged shell]

I'd just say look at your resists a bit and try to cap them or get them to around -70%

yeah its 30% more at max stacks or was time rot 12 stacks, i forgot.

its 12, 36%

[silk bobcat]

i think its 36%

600% increased just from dark shroud at 12 stacks of fire aura

[rugged shell]

Yeah, you could just stack void damage on flame reave

[silk bobcat]

yeah there is a node that lets you go one for one spell damage to melee

so you can double dip all the increases

[rugged shell]

Yeah, you have that already

I think your flame reave will still do more damage than the fire auras can

[silk bobcat]

yeah i think so

alot of added flat and effectiveness

[rugged shell]

since you have 900% added void damge

then its 1.6x that due to fire reave added damage effectiveness

[silk bobcat]

sheesh

how do ailments work with added damage?

[rugged shell]

Ailments dont scale.

[silk bobcat]

got it

[rugged shell]

More damage works on them, but not flat or increased. iirc

[rugged shell]

You may want to consider shattered chains

[silk bobcat]

dang that goes hard

up to 56% more

[rugged shell]

only thing is that it drops from 120+ corr shade

[silk bobcat]

im pretty sure i have a couple laying around

[mystic tundra]

those drop easily

[rugged shell]

15% and scales with corr

[silk bobcat]

yeah i got one

[marsh oasis]

plasma orb RM is unbelievably bad man. wow. Sigh See you guys next cycle.

[rugged shell]

bye!

see u tomorrow!!

[marsh oasis]

lol, nah. not this time. I've tried shield, mad wand, .... It's Joever for me. I'm done. No damage, no survibility. GGS.

Dying to 100cor bosses like i'm playing Elden Ring. I'm out.

[rugged shell]

Dang, i feel u

Tried making a spellblade with shattered lance set in 1.0. Complete glass cannon

[silk bobcat]

so is the formula weapon base attack rate x skill base speed x attack speed modifiers?

[rugged shell]

Yeah i'd assume so

[worn valley]

gave up trying to improve and enjoy glacier build from maxroll, went for a suggested mana stack static orb meteor. It's insane, my eyes are bleeding and i'm having the time of my life

[mortal escarp]

14 attempts to craft LP2 Wrongwarp 0 successful crafts, this is some kind of joke

[marsh oasis]

Do you have a build link?

[worn valley]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/mana-stacking-elementalist-sorcerer-meteor-glacier-static-orb

I was lucky to have all the pieces stashed away with lp1/2, didnt get great slammign results and dont have 1500 mana (1100) and its still insnae, looking forward to getting upgrades

[marsh oasis]

Thanks. I gotta get rid of this plasma orb garbage. lol

[worn valley]

I tried plasma orb and the rotation drove me insane lol

[rugged shell]

mana impowes your chances of not going oom atleast the instant the belt gets rolling.

[marsh oasis]

I might just delete the character.

[waxen sigil]

Do it dude the class isn’t for u

[rugged shell]

And static orb damage i guess

[waxen sigil]

Its too hard and u need guides

Pick something easier man

[marsh oasis]

The lag on bosses throwing off the rotation, tanking your damage, then dying because your mana is gone. sweating hard to spam potions. It's horrible. 🥹

[worn valley]

yeah defintely, im able to blast things down ina few hits, only 250c atm but my main aim is to get the mana pool going

[rugged shell]

Main issue with it is just defences.

since you are stuffing mana everywhere. Essentially just a glass cannon.

[worn valley]

i spammed glacier, oom in 5 secs and then running round chipping at the boss was torture lol

yeah defintely, i can die quite easily if i get compalcent and stand still, i just try to stay mobile all the time

[rugged shell]

The biggest reason for dying is going oom anyways, you lose all your ward gain basically

[worn valley]

im running focus instead of ascendance atm as well which is nice. I'm not crazy about pushing but i like to be able to play a decent build at a certain level

[rugged shell]

Yeah no, nothing else accept focus even works.,

[marsh oasis]

Dang, Mage/sorcs have always been my least favorite class to roll in any ARPG. This doesn't help. I gave it a GREAT try though.

[rugged shell]

focus recovers 50% mana flat

[worn valley]

Seen the build runs ascendance for one shotting aberroth btu thats near perfect gear, never touching that l;ol

[rugged shell]

the build can already one shot aberroth if you just get enough mana

arcane ascendance is overkill.

[worn valley]

Yeah maybe so, only been playing since last night so still getting used to what it can do, just praying for some good mana slams tonight

[rugged shell]

Forexample if you have around 2000 mana with 5/5 mana charged and overcharged detonation your static orb costs 435 or so mana, thats 870% damage from overcharged detonation. and 500% from manacharged, then 50% from sorc passive

so 8.7x5x1.5=65.25 time damage

So yeah.

You get insane multipliers on the build already.

[worn valley]

Yeah the scaling with mana is insane, just gotta get lucky with those t7 mana slams

which im not ofc haha

[rugged shell]

Atleast the gear progression is fairly simple, number go up monkey happy

[worn valley]

I'm too smooth brain to think for myself, so finding a detailed guide with easy progression was fantastic

just my poor pc is screaming with the explosions

[rugged shell]

Turning off screenshake helps 😂

Maybe motion blur too would help

[worn valley]

Oh don't worry I already ahve it off, turned it up to max while playing glacier to see hwo bad it was and I started to feel sick lmao

[rugged shell]

Yeah fair lmao its basically ^2 on this build

[worn valley]

I can only imagine, dont even want to try haha. Are you playing this build or something else?

[rugged shell]

Yeah im playing a mana stacker too, about at 1550 mana right now

[mystic tundra]

another bricked slam, missed the T7 but hit the T5. Good times

[worn valley]

very nice what corruption you running?

[rugged shell]

atm around 120 this is my first character of the cycle

[patent palm]

What build(s) is ladle BiS for? I got a 4LP drop 😅

[mystic tundra]

FC spark, dude you have no idea how rare that is

[rugged shell]

Ladle is good on alot of things

[mystic tundra]

did it drop from exiled mage?

[patent palm]

Is it better than wrongwarp? Or just different? Have a 2LP double mana wrongwarp already

[mystic tundra]

I would kill for even a 3LP one of those. I keep finding 1LP and only found two 2LP.

[rugged shell]

The thing I want to say is, theres almost nothing ladle isnt good on

[mystic tundra]

depends on the build, for mana stacking wrong is better I think

[rugged shell]

You have insane choices right now build variety wise.

[patent palm]

Yes, exiled mage drop. Only way to get it right?

Other than bazaar I guess

[mystic tundra]

yeah

what corruption?

[patent palm]

You’ll hate me if I tell you

[mystic tundra]

as long as its 100+ lol

[patent palm]

280ish I think

[mystic tundra]

thats fine, most people farm ~300 tbh

I think if you can speed clear, ~600 is nice

I still hate you though 😄

[rugged shell]

I'd have hated you if you dropped it in campaing 😂

[patent palm]

What would you put on it? T7 multi, t5 mana+ward, shock chance, ???

[rugged shell]

You gotta make a build now lmao

[mystic tundra]

Pretty sure it just depends on your build? For me, I'd slam T7 multi, with T5 Mana+Ward, T5 Lightning Pen, and T5 Stun Chance

[rugged shell]

if you mana stack go for t7 mana ward

[patent palm]

Math supports t7 multi over t7 mana for damage

At least on the weapon slot

[rugged shell]

Honestly, just cook up something in le tools and then think about what you are going to slam

[mystic tundra]

@patent palm curious... did you have Wand % blessing on?

[scarlet totem]

Playing straight meteor (and glacier) right now, but can't find either what item or where in the skill/passive trees you can convert meteor fire to lightning...second, what causes the auto meteor on coc build...i know i have seen this somewhere

[patent palm]

I do.

[patent palm]

CoC from Harbinger of Stars. You don’t need to convert meteor to lightning in the build

[mystic tundra]

good to know. ive read a lot of interesting posts about theories that the blessing actual messes up Ladle drop chances... I decided to take it off for my next round of farming.

[scarlet totem]

thanks, didn't know if there was something else...my Harbinger is 8% chance, so you have to cast something that has near 100% to crit in order to 8% chance? am i seeing that right? the lightning conversion question was more out of curiosity for a different take on straight meteor

[patent palm]

glacier is easy to get to crit cap, resplendent frost adds BASE crit chance. 5% base, up to 12% there, up to 6% from a crystal skull offhand, already at 23%. Then int * 1.03 for increased crit chance + some from other passives and you should be at 100% glacier crits

[scarlet totem]

Vilatria's staff is what does the conversion, just couldn't recall

[patent palm]

ahh gotcha

Stardust on the meteor tree is another way to scale non-fire damage on it

if you have a ton of non-fire flat damage (eg - lost soul wand, grimoire offhand, etc), stardust can be a huge mulitplier

[scarlet totem]

thanks 😀

[patent palm]

choose your own adventure! what would you do with these two 🙂

[patent palm]

Think you nailed it. Only other possibility is Freeze Rate Multi which appears to use almost the same calc as Stun to do effectively the same thing. Unless if I'm missing somethingI was missing something, stun is better :p

[grizzled spruce]

So whats the perfect static orb range to shotgun? Just point blank?

[patent palm]

point blank

[molten lily]

guys it impossible to get frostclaw to 40 mana cost if i have -5 on my weapon?

[grizzled spruce]

Afaik you need -3 to spec 1 in the skill node, -4 to have it unspec'd to still make 40+

[past obsidian]

Why these top end builds not capping their resist now

[grizzled spruce]

So you are probably screwd with -5 yes

[molten lily]

sad, guess i have to play coc meteor then

frostclaw is so much more engaging to play

[grizzled spruce]

And its less awkward at initiating combat and getting ward up

I mean you could just get another weapon, get a ladle or something til you find a -4/-3

[scarlet totem]

So, FC/Spark or Glacier coc Meteor...which is better,easier to play, easier to gear, etc

[grizzled spruce]

Raw glacier isnt bad and can do abberoth fine, but im leaning FC/Spark after trying all 3

Im not gearswapping either

[patent palm]

easier to gear is prob glacier coc. Just need harbinger belt which is pretty common and mindless stack mana. FC/Spark needs a solid enigma offhand and more of a balance of mana and int to feel good.

[scarlet totem]

Thanks, seems FC Spark would be easier to transition to FC Static Orb too?

[grizzled spruce]

Sorry i ment FC Orb not FC/Spark

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnqzmxKA

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.2

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (67) / Runemaster (26)

General:

▸ Health: 992, Regen: 23.5/s
▸ Mana: 2,075, Regen: 21.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 506%, Regen: 261/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 16 Dex / 120 Int / 12 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 74% / 50% / 114% / 74% / 72% / 78% / 84%
▸ EHP: 1,468 / 1,293 / 1,616 / 1,781 / 1,325 / 1,371 / 1,494

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 198
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (75)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 40% (2,283)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Arcane Momentum (5/5), Chronowarp, Haste

Used skills:

• Static Orb (26)
• Teleport (20)
• Focus (20)
• Frost Claw (21)
• Arcane Ascendance (20)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Unstable Core
• Wrongwarp
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Phantom Grip
• The Confluence of Fate
• Stormcarved Testament

[grizzled spruce]

I dont run prismatic gaze (no redring yet either) no blood of the exile yet either at level 99 lol but it cruises

[scarlet totem]

Thank, I have a couple of those but not enough for build and mana and int nowhere near enough....so keep chugging

[scarlet totem]

Thanks, yep, still need that Enigma

[molten lily]

what's the phantom grip for?

[mystic tundra]

base crit

[grizzled spruce]

easy LP for crit ye

[patent palm]

ignore all the lines of text about minions. you wear phantom for the base crit and mana %

[waxen sigil]

So what’s the deal abberoth, does he have corruption and stuff and what’s the fastest kill time ?

Would it be impressive to kill him in sub 2 seconds??

[patent palm]

i've seen him basically instagibbed by full glass cannon static orb

he does not have corruption or any modifiers at all

[waxen sigil]

So actually 1 hit kill or multiple fast casts ?

[patent palm]

everyone says "1 shot" but really it's a quick series of button presses followed by dumping 5 or 6 static orbs all within about 2-3 seconds

[waxen sigil]

Oh I see

Thx

[patent palm]

sent you a message with a youtube link to an example

[past obsidian]

my tool tip says i have 36% spell crit chance - does this calculate everything before items?

[patent palm]

everything that is generic, including items. So spell crit chance, crit chance, etc from EVERYWHERE. BUT NOT lightning spell crit chance

also nothing that is specific to a skill. eg - glacier can get an extra 12% base crit chance that you won't see on your character sheet

[mystic tundra]

@patent palm finally a little bit of luck. this will do well for a while

[plush anchor]

eww.

[past obsidian]

Never late being fixed guys

[past obsidian]

whay build?

[mystic tundra]

FC Spark

[sleek elbow]

is ladle better than wrongwarp for frost claw/spark charge builds?

[opal drift]

ok got a question here never ran into this issue before. Im doing the maxroll sorc leveling guide and such moving towards the shatterstrike spellblade which i have taken as my second class. But now at level 38 it says for me to take the crackling presicion skills but they are locked behind a chain. I am kind of confused as to what to do now.

i have the 25 skills in the sorc passive and 20 in the mage passives. So I am wondering why this is still locked out for me

[fathom badge]

you can not change your main specializaion, you are locked to sorc

if you wanted the spellblade for the endgame - the only way is to level another character and pick spellblade at lvl 20 as specialization

[opal drift]

oh that is what i did

[sleek elbow]

when you pick your subclass(in this case spellblade), you are locked out of half the tree for the other 2 subclasses

[opal drift]

i am just unable to follow the maxroll guide as I cannot put the skills in that it is telling me to

oh...so then i should of not taken my specalization until 70?

[sleek elbow]

follow a spellblade guide

[mystic tundra]

pretty sure the answer is... FC Spark = Ladle, FC Static Orb = Wrongwarp

[opal drift]

Weird. I normally follow the 1-70 leveling guides and they dont have an issue for me to get to 70 then i repec my skills at 70 to the mastery

[sleek elbow]

@opal drift if you want to follow a detailed, newbie friendly max roll guide then use this for spellblade https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/spellblade-leveling-guide

[fathom badge]

no, just use any leveling guide that is using specialization that you desire for endgame

[opal drift]

aaaaah ok. thanks again guys. 🙂

[sleek elbow]

can you explain why? because of the more multiplier for spark charges?

[mystic tundra]

for FC spark, ladle gives us cast speed from INT scaling, about 48% more damage, ailments, etc

[past obsidian]

technically FC static orb uses sparkcharges too but not as extensively

[sleek elbow]

so that outweighs the spell damage bonus from a higher end wand like wrong warp?

also is there any diminishing returns on cast speed where we may have too much?

[mystic tundra]

I tried using wrong for a bit, I saw some higher crits but overall felt slower in terms of kill speed, especially considering a major cast speed reduction. Beyond that, I am not entirely sure, but I know that in Frozen's video and spreadsheets, he doesn't listen Wrongwrap as a viable option.

[past obsidian]

I see FC spark use one setup for both map and boss, while FC orb uses FC for map and orb for elites/boss

[rapid hinge]

ideally you'd have a specialized boss setup

but that means $$$$

[forest bane]

Looks like they finally fixed the never late bug

[unreal umbra]

Source?

[rugged shell]

I think this is source

[past obsidian]

[rugged shell]

Even if never lates fixed 99% of builds that use it just need to swap a catalyst and put on a peak

and its as if nothing ever happend.

[forest bane]

I swear xD

[forest bane]

It's in the new patch notes that just came out

[rugged shell]

Ah okay, usually check through steam

[unreal umbra]

oh i missed patch notes, i only saw the new notes preview thinking that was it

[forest bane]

Is Confluence of fate with proper LP better than calm mind?

[unreal umbra]

wow actually fixed

legit bina knew ahead of time

[rugged shell]

I mean its a bug.

[forest bane]

Yeah but they've tried fixing it before too and it didn't work, not sure 100% if it really is. I see the buff pop up at 5 points now after using teleport

[unreal umbra]

yeah but its been there since week 1 runemaster and reported a million times

randomly hotfixed in the middle of a cycle

[forest bane]

Won't know for sure unless some of the big guys test it properly

[rugged shell]

Okay so after respeccing it now I have a permanent never late icon doesent go away after casting

[past obsidian]

let's go

[rugged shell]

Lets go never late isnt fixed!!

[warped crow]

pretty good

[rapid hinge]

Kekw

[forest bane]

How many points? I have 5/8 and the buff disappeares after using a skill

[rugged shell]

I respecced it

[forest bane]

It's wierd though cause the buff doesn't increase my crit chance in the char sheet as well

[rugged shell]

weird

[forest bane]

How many points?

[rugged shell]

0

I respecced it.

[forest bane]

And you have the buff shown all the time? lol wth xD

[rugged shell]

Probably cause I used evade in town

then respeced it, I still see the crit in character sheet

[past obsidian]

oh so now they made it even better - you don't even need to spec points in it to make it last

[forest bane]

Might as well not take it anymore, better to get more int/mana nodes

Time to farm peak 3lp, cause rng won't be nice to me

[rugged shell]

Literally lmao, though I dont think ill want to go respec every time I log on

Ill check if it goes away in death

I'd assume it does but who knows

[nimble rover]

i mean i just tested it. its just visual bug

this time

[marsh oasis]

This archetype is a complete mess. I really should have studied up on it, before i went. "That build looks cool, look at those effects!!!". 😦 lol

[rugged shell]

Persists on death lmao

[rugged shell]

How'd you test?

[unreal umbra]

time for peak farming. just means ill lose my arcane visage 😦

[nimble rover]

on training dummy?

[forest bane]

Probably just a visual. Cause even I specced into it and used teleport to pop the buff, my crit didn't change in the char sheet

[rugged shell]

fair lol

I mean i see 53%

would be less without it

[nimble rover]

how so.never late has no effect on sheet

[forest bane]

I am 53 without it aswell, not specced into and no buff icon either

[nimble rover]

i have buff icon after re spec but its just an icon. no real effect

[forest bane]

How'd you know apart from testing on a dummy?

[rugged shell]

I mean I can just import my character in le tools

[nimble rover]

if u have 74% sheed crit and im not critting 8 times from 30 casts you know what? it doesnt work

and previously it was like 2 no crits with 50 % sheet crit

[forest bane]

Guess that makes sense lol

[nimble rover]

so clearly it is fixed

[rugged shell]

oh wait i just do have 54% crit

[forest bane]

Time for runeword cataclysm xD

[rugged shell]

lmao, thought i had less

[rugged shell]

Why would u run it anyways???

[nimble rover]

because it is very good 😄

[rugged shell]

wouldnt**

[nimble rover]

ah. thats the question yes

[rugged shell]

My thought isnt going too well at midnight

[past obsidian]

okay so officially it is fixed.

[forest bane]

I'm seeing white numbers :<

[rugged shell]

lmao

[forest bane]

Is confluence of fate 2lp better than strong mind?

[nimble rover]

for bossing it should be better yes

[past obsidian]

I think so, but good mile

Flat spell Damage helps FC too

But strong mind is easy to get

[nimble rover]

it helps but this neck is not for corr push. just for bossing

[forest bane]

So strong mind for overall then? Cause I still haven't gotten enigma even after 10x relic prophecies lol (Rank 12)

Thinking of doing coc meteor till I get a good rolled lp enigma

[nimble rover]

enigma is not relic. i guess it was a typo

[forest bane]

I meant catalyst

I've been farming for relics all this time. fml

[grizzled spruce]

I've gotten like 6 enigmas, 0 blood of the exile and 1 transient rest idk whats going on (and im farming boots only since corr 300+)

5th enigma was 2 lp and hit 9x mana/ele res atleast

[nimble rover]

well it is something, not double suffix right ? 😄

[grizzled spruce]

Yeah I wanted mana the most so its fine

id rather have mana/crit but yea

[forest bane]

Omg, Thank you @grizzled spruce I've been farming relics on cof all this time >.<

[grizzled spruce]

That was @nimble rover but good luck! 😄

[forest bane]

@nimble rover Thank you 😄

[nimble rover]

ye np. you will drop it in no time

[grizzled spruce]

When will my boots drop eymix 😦 level 99 now

[nimble rover]

well i got like 20 boots at level 99 so

keep grinding 😄

[grizzled spruce]

transient or exile?

transient is more common iirc, i even rune of ascension boots

[nimble rover]

maybe like 20 transient and 10 blood of exile

[grizzled spruce]

jesus, but maybe you pushed higher corr, i was 97 when i reached abba

Just chilling doing 1 at a time, no deaths or so just building corruption without many needles

[forest bane]

Is blood that good over transient?

[grizzled spruce]

I mean with wrongwarp its kinda nice imo, and MS overall is just nice for the qol

[nimble rover]

i was playing at like 500 corr chilling. but after todays update i just got 400 extra corr in 30 mins

[mystic tundra]

Feel like everyone's luck is different. Enigma's drop for me left and right, as well as some other things, but the others won't lol

[forest bane]

Only thing I see it has is good int and better MS

i prefer the transient's ward

[grizzled spruce]

Yeah i gotten like 8 of those chests 😄 0 exiles

Havent farmed stormcarved so, but otherewise pretty equal id say

Alot of strong minds ofc, best was 3LP i think

[mystic tundra]

my issue is getting T7 int onto stormcave. already bricked 3 of them.

[nimble rover]

it is a hard question. blood is 100% better for bossing tho. transient has huge resists and extra ward. so it can be easir to setup for corr farm

[mystic tundra]

and always find 1LP

[forest bane]

Not the best LP slam but still good

[grizzled spruce]

Yeah i'd bootswap if i had them, assuming both has MS slams

[grizzled spruce]

Yeah, its not bad, its just wrongwarp MS scaling is just so wicked

any other slot and youre superhappy with int (yes mana too but ye)

[nimble rover]

our huge advantage on bosses we can go full dps items. we one(two) shot or die pretty much.

[grizzled spruce]

Yeah, i cant 1 cycle t4 temporal yet

[nimble rover]

i have both boots and just swapping them

[grizzled spruce]

but i can kill abbaroth idk whats wrong

[grizzled spruce]

I still only complete like 1/3 keys 🤣

[nimble rover]

yday i was blessed by ehg no endless loading

[grizzled spruce]

yeah 1/3 of keys is completed, 1/3 is loading shenanigans 1/3 is just deaths

[nimble rover]

need to farm 2 lp rings tho

[forest bane]

That's gonna be hard af, aern't 2lp julra's annoyingly rare?

[grizzled spruce]

Its a bit counter-productive with T1 sanctum being 100% droprate, and T4 like 35% base but somewhat

[forest bane]

I'm at 1.7k and around 360k static orb, i can't one shot julra t4 either

[nimble rover]

they are

[forest bane]

GL

[grizzled spruce]

My orb is 115k tooltip

[nimble rover]

around 60 runs for 2 lp