🧙┃mage

[wispy rune]

but thats ofc more frost wal doing it, but similar effect

thats mine.

[cerulean plinth]

Is prismatic buffer still worth if you're already capped on ele res?

Oh it doesn't give you res it reduces damage. Nvm

[woven yarrow]

hmmm, seems very identical xdd

[cerulean plinth]

Dang only 2m for a 3lp doesn't sound bad at all

[dark jay]

this cant hurt me

[wispy rune]

dam, i gain 900 ward per meteor cast. lol

[dark jay]

1 last ride for the night

[wispy rune]

i have like 4 of them and cant find a cleansing belt to put into it, im so sad

[dark jay]

they are common yeah

[wispy rune]

ive thrown multiple on the ground too

[dark jay]

i have multiple tabs for failed ventures

to remind me why this game's crafting system SUCKS

[wispy rune]

i just drop them so i dont have to see them 😂 the only ones i keep are the potentially useful ones

i like the craftign system, it just doesnt like me

[cerulean plinth]

Agreed

If everything was guaranteed it'd be boring. Sucks when it goes wrong but feels so good when it goes right

[dark jay]

finally a W after like 10 Ls

[cerulean plinth]

Not bad

Monka phone is at 15% already. Too much discord

[wispy rune]

hmm

[dark jay]

🙈

[wispy rune]

egg was useful for once

yknow what grinds my gears. my min rolled idols ive had since like lvl 60 since i cant find anything better

[cerulean plinth]

My good idol is throne. The rest are garbo

[wispy rune]

my glass ones all have the righ suffix, just low rolls on most of them.

i should tbh swap them for more mana spent gained as ward maybe. not sure ift hats better or worse than the armour + mana

[harsh abyss]

I've always kinda wondered how much "mana spent gained as ward" you could stack, and if it would feel good for defense if you did.

You can probably get upwards of 500% if you go all in on it.

[wispy rune]

i have a lot and its great. tho i think im getting diminishing returns now

[feral moss]

as always the real limiter for mana-as-defensive-metric is how much you're able to regenerate all the mana that you use up. 😦

[wispy rune]

i have

74 + 55 on chest
177 on belt
39 on relic
12 and 29 on rings(once i can slot them)
soon to be some on idols

[jade torrent]

Mage seems so dope, werebear druid is boring tbh

[wispy rune]

so yea, 1 meteor cast of 122 mana gets me ~900 ward, but i have a lot of flat ward on cast and stuff.

[cerulean plinth]

Mage is pretty poggers. Quite a few routes you can go down

[dark jay]

yeah that's a valid form of defense, but ward depletes rapidly at around 9-10k now so you need some retention too

[finite trellis]

Most classes have ups and downs.

Mage is fun, but can also get boring. Balance as all things should be 🙂

PerrythePigs's poison swarmblade druid looks lit. You could try that out too

[wispy rune]

yea thats why im wondering ift he idols are even worth it

since i trade %arm and %mana for %mana spent gained as ward

[cerulean plinth]

900 ward per cast is wild

[wispy rune]

yea im ngl, this home brew build is doing better than i expected

[cerulean plinth]

Let him cook

[wispy rune]

ive been cooking a lot, and often been burning it. I was trynna make lightning fireball work earlier and have it proc meteor

[feral moss]

real question is how often can you cast that, consistently. cuz 900 ward per cast sounds good on paper but it's useless if it's only 1 cast per second for 5 seconds and then you're outta mana

[wispy rune]

i have 0 mana issues. i use focus to get mana and by the time i go through the mana focus grants me, focus is back off cd.

i can often clear a full mono without usig focus once. focus is just there for bosses really.

[cerulean plinth]

What is your mana regen at

[wispy rune]

only 19? i dont think thats high?

[cerulean plinth]

I see. Just a huge mana pool?

[wispy rune]

mainly mana well tbh 🤔 i dont actually know how i dont have mana issues.

maxmana is only ~1200

[feral moss]

i mean if it works, it works 😄

[wispy rune]

oh unless this isnt shown on stats? i have 90 int

wait thats max mana scaling 🤔 idk

archmage refund is forsure a chunk of it

unsealed mana also gives me 15mana after using 3 0 cost skills,which the evade does count for

the rest idk

[nimble rover]

i need yours. and seems like you need mine 😄

[wispy rune]

those prefixes are hot, wish thebase was a bit better tho

[cerulean plinth]

Huge curse damage

[finite trellis]

I stopped using meteor and started autocasting flame ward instead for ward. Seem to generate more ward that way. Haven't even noticed a difference 😂 everything still evaporates.

[nimble rover]

ah its just for slam

need fat wrongwarp

[wispy rune]

🙏 u dont get the suffixs

i lowkey think this is my favourite build ive played 🤔 and i played flame wraith when it wasbusted

[dark jay]

gimme dat

[finite trellis]

It's pretty fun for sure. I like avalanche shaman more I think though. Dropping bombs is hella cool

Tbh though...feels similar with the spender --~ generate Mana playstyle.

[nimble rover]

i mean its not that far behind if at all. im killing t4 julra in 1 second with not good gear at all. so ye pretty pog. and with good gear as someone showed on yt even aberroth will be oneshoted

too bad i cant play today 😄

[cerulean plinth]

My goal is getting up to 1k ignite stacks with my build. Idk if that's even possible tho

Best I can do atm with pretty bad gear is 350 xd

[wispy rune]

wahtre u running alongside that? i saw flamerush can consume ignite stacks and it seemed like u could do somthing funny with that

[vale tartan]

yeah in case you get to high amounts of ignites fast

[cerulean plinth]

I figured I should probably swap flame for teleport if I'm gonna be going after wrongwarp. Even tho flame is super fun to use

[vale tartan]

im not sure how the damage of Forbidden Flame is calculated tho

[wispy rune]

flame rush is lowkey so much more fun. was a massive pain not having tele for t4 lightless tho

[cerulean plinth]

Yeaaah it's pretty sick

Basically has no cd too

[wispy rune]

and u can make it give lightning aegis, so thats sick

[tall oasis]

Its particularly fun when combined with skill mechanics. one of my favorites, for sure

Runemaster's kit is IMO where Sorc's kit would be if EHG took 2 months out of their schedule to focus on a single mastery.

[wispy rune]

yea when RM released it legit just felt like a cooler sorc but without meteor. wish blackhole got some love too.

sorc passive changes made a world of difference tho

[tall oasis]

Not a huge fan of it, expected something heavier on the mastery fantasy. but flat damage works for now

[vale tartan]

And lightning Aegis is additional DR so i dont know why people dont reall yuse Flame Rush

[wispy rune]

sorc changes made it a lot of fun, but might just be me

and yea flame rushes only downside over tp is really the fact its not a blink, and the clear casting/global cooldown recovery

[tall oasis]

most cooldown reduction reliant specs bring it down to roughly 2.4 seconds, its really a no biggie

Frost wall to me would be the weakest RM skill, and it can still be useful

[wispy rune]

the fact it being the only cleanse(i think) is rough.

[cerulean plinth]

Main reason I'm debating on going cinder song instead of the warp staff. I want flame

[tall oasis]

Yeah DoTs are a big issue

[cerulean plinth]

My poor ignite build :^)

[full bluff]

I changed my sorc to glacier from spark charges+frost claw, using the same gear almost, and glacier is so much better 🙂

[tall oasis]

Im currently thinking of trying a melee, flame aura based build that isn't using Disintegrate. Thought about integrating Flame Reave

[cerulean plinth]

I'll make it work dw

[wispy rune]

its fun for sure, and 100% uptime on lightning aegis is great

[cerulean plinth]

Dots are a bit tricky because if it's too broken, everyone will do it. And dots are already really strong for zooming through the story on an alt

Torch go brr with a bit of added fire or dot dmg

[wispy rune]

im trynna find better pair of vilatrias set and its actually so hard

[tall oasis]

DoTs are tricky bc of how they are applied. Absolutely without mercy, and out of very large range sometimes. Like those scorpions

[cerulean plinth]

True that

I do like the big bop of enchant weapon popping all my ignites at once

[tall oasis]

Without any indication, bang, 4 stacks of poison and bleed

[cerulean plinth]

Speaking of ignite, are there any other good ways to extend ignite duration? Like is there some unique that I am completely missing? I have the 25% ignite duration from enchant weapon tree and another 40% from sorc tree

[queen warren]

Could anyone help me understand how to fit in twisted heart relic in the Frostbite Frostclaw Sorc build, where you lose life when you cast spells in exchange for Ward. But I'm not sure how to sustain a high health pool or counter that particualr downside in the more endgame version of the build.

[steel ridge]

does this apply to ANY invocation as long as it has a lightning rune? OR ANY invocation that does lightning damage? Same thing I guess. https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AGwTmQ

[wispy rune]

u dont sustain it, u sit at low hp

[cerulean plinth]

Whole point of a lowlife build :p

[queen warren]

oh, it's intended to play low life?

are there not any ward bypassing mechanics or attack types?

[cerulean plinth]

Not that I know of. That would be kinda funny for a lowlife build tho lmao.

[rocky anvil]

There is a very rare trap that bypasses ward, but this trap deals damage based on your current health, too. So even walking over a hundred traps in a fraction of a second, they can't kill you by themselves.

[cerulean plinth]

So if I'm casting 4 fireballs per second that's in theory like 400 ward a second with just heart. Monka. That + changing my passives will actually just solve most of my survivability issues. Wild

[wispy rune]

problem is, can u reliably cast that many whilst moving and dodging and waht note

[cerulean plinth]

Wait you can't combine heart with a lowlife build right? Since it's based off of current health?

[wispy rune]

u can

[cerulean plinth]

Oh

[queen warren]

nothing else in the build I'm following indicates or says anything about being a low life build

but just this single item makes it a low life build I guess

[wispy rune]

if u have no benefit of actually having the hp, and get good use from the ehart, its basically just free stats

[rocky anvil]

"low life builds" is usually defined by having skills, passives or items that scale off of having low life (i.e. "You deal 35% more damage at low life") so builds that generate ward by spending life but don't actually don't have interactions with scaling stats other ways usually aren't called a "low life build". But obviously, you're gonna be sitting at 10% of your max health in combat all the time with an item like that 😜

[wispy rune]

low life builds are whatever im playing coz i cant dodge anything

[proper hawk]

people are misleading you I think, twisted heart will give you less ward if you let your health total drop from it. What you want is a little bit of leech that will top off your health pool. It gives so much stats you can easily ignore that part of the item and use it on a low life build, but if you dont have other items for low life like exsanguinous, thats not what is going on here

[queen warren]

That's what I originally thought but I don't see any lifesteal in the build

But maybe someone who plays frostbite frotst claw already knows where the lifesteal comes from

[wispy rune]

if ur sorc u can get enough just from the passive tree. unsure for rm/spellblade

[queen warren]

Ah, cold damage leech, 1.5% I guess that's enough?

[wispy rune]

yea

can look to grab more if u desire but only where u dont sacrifice other stuff

[tiny belfry]

Health is for babies just sit at 10hp and 20k ward

[cerulean plinth]

Real

[harsh abyss]

Those passives are in the first half, so you can get them on whoever

[wispy rune]

was more unsure if rm/spellblade had better access in their own treesm

[tiny belfry]

You play ward on spellblade since you have on hit ward

[wispy rune]

p sure u play ward on everything at this point 😂

[cerulean plinth]

There are still some hp copers

Maybe hp could be sick if you didn't have to invest so much into making it decent

[tiny belfry]

It’s significantly outbalances other options. Like it’s just leech but you have no maximum really

[woven moss]

Any Static Orb experts able to answer this question.. Tribolectra wands has a +2-5 tendrils affix range. How important is this in your opinion for a lightning build on a different class? Like is the tendril range super big or? Was having issues testing

[dark jay]

tendrils help killing mobs outside of initial explosion aoe, but doesnt increase your single target

[wispy rune]

p sure that wand is bad for actual static orb dmg builds? sonce youll rip through all ur mana no?

i was using it for lightning aegis on dash for a bit tho

[dark jay]

range is quite big and deals actual damage

you dont want to use Tribolectra anyway because static orb scales very well with mana, lvl higher than 22 doesnt actually boost damage as much as a t7 mana wand

[solemn viper]

You sustain it with the passive in sorcerer tree that gives you leech for 1 element, lets say you use lightning claw you want the leech for lightning spells, not only that it also gives you penetration wich is needed

Twisted heart is the opposite of a low life build, you want to maintain the full hp for more ward

[cerulean plinth]

What's the boot that gives a crap ton of attributes? I don't remember the name of it

Actually now that I'm looking at transient rest I might go with that instead. Hmm

Dang a max rolled foot of the mountain gives 60 total attributes

[rocky anvil]

is the other one, but less attributes as you can see.

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, but if you can slam T7 Int onto those boots, they're amazing.

[cerulean plinth]

Even if your bleed doesn't do anything with bleed? I'm doing an ignite fireball build

[lean saddle]

whats better boss build, glacier sorc or frost claw sorc

[cerulean plinth]

Is there any universe where unchained fire is good in the fireball tree? For one giga fireball?

[nimble rover]

any cof enjoyers? is lvl 10 cof working at all? or maybe someone can explain how exactly it works? because im farming peak of the mountain and there is no drop sometimes. but with lvl 10 cof it should be +150% drop rate.

[frank widget]

Dungeon bosses don't have a guaranteed drop like monolith bosses do

each item from a dungeon boss is rolled separately

[nimble rover]

well i just found an answer that its a bug

[frank widget]

thats probably also true

[nimble rover]

and devs works on it

[dark jay]

about time, looking forward to receiving my 2LP juldra ring

[frank widget]

but why you dont get any drops at all is because at base, there is no guarantee. you can see the chances per item in the LET db

[next swallow]

can anyone take a peek at my character built so far and tell me what I should work on next? (besides obvs only being rank 6 in merchants guild and unable to purchase much beyond what is on) https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/lb1om06w

[dark jay]

juldra has 100% guaranteed chance for the ring at t1

[mint relic]

where can I find a good glacier/meteor build? Maxroll guide is not great for this one

[nimble rover]

its been answered by Mike 3 days ago tho 😄

[dark jay]

x2.5 = stonk 3 rings per run

[frank widget]

thats true

[nimble rover]

like i mean its critical

[dark jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD25LMgjbqo

[nimble rover]

ah yes. you are right. and i never got 2 or 3. so ye its still bugged

sadge

[cerulean plinth]

Makes me feel less badly about taking so long to level cof

[mint relic]

thanks man! I dont like focus in there but other than that great ❤️

[dark jay]

focus max defensive + flame aura combo is extremely powerful, i can face tank t4 mountain boss with this, dont even need to dodge nor cap res

[bold holly]

Apologies if this has been asked and answered, does anyone know why the maxroll guide for Spark Charge Shatter Strike recommends Dragorath's Claw? I see 0 ways that Frost Claw is in the build

[dark jay]

this

i dunno about dragorath either

[mint relic]

honestly, not sure what this means? returning player 😄 how this combo works?

[cerulean plinth]

There are nodes in focus and flame ward that give you massive defensive stats while they're channeled or active

[mint relic]

but flame ward is not even in this build

[nimble rover]

ah i just asked Mike. and he said that he doesnt have info about status of bug.

well rip cof i guess 😄

[cerulean plinth]

Sorry I read flame ward instead of aura in pod's message. My b

[bold holly]

Thanks. I'm good on the skills, passives, etc. Just dont understand the weapon choice

[mint relic]

Can I play Flame Ward instead of focus in this build?

[dark jay]

I meant flame ward 😆

[cerulean plinth]

It's ok, it's a Monday. I'm having one of those days too

[rocky anvil]

Dragorath is because of good inherent melee speed but most importantly because it's relatively easy to find 4 LP versions.

[dark jay]

You need focus to regain mana after emptying it, flame ward can be put on your bar without specing it for this build

[rocky anvil]

So the 17% all res and the spell crit mult are the two big factors

[mint relic]

so it's not worth to try to work towards self sustain mana through crit % ?

[bold holly]

Ahhhhh ok. So it's just to be a big stat stick with the 4LP? Makes sense and also why I couldn't figure out the Frost Claw part lol

[rocky anvil]

Yeah. It uses mana strike to just fill the mana tank and shatter to apply many melee hits for massive spark hits.

[frank widget]

this one hit well

[dark jay]

You will self sustain with glacier during mapping, but for bossing you will burn all mana with static orb to delete boss

[rocky anvil]

So the fact that the implicit effects are scaling so great with it (+ spell damage and +4% added crit chance) is hard to pass up on together with the all res and spell multi. Even if the "unique effects" are literally garbage. It DOES however mean, that you can farm whatever weapon instead of dragorath if you can get better stat rolls somehow or a super lucky high LP version of a "theoretically worse" weapon.

[mint relic]

Ok I'm following so I need to put focus on the bar for bossing. Then I cant put Flame ward on the bar? orb, glacier, teleport, ascendance +1 Flame Ward / Focus? Or skillswap during bossfight?

[dark jay]

I havent dropped a t7 mana gloves nor relic 😭

[frank widget]

i have only dropped a t7 int relic, which did not smash a twisted heart, twice

[cerulean plinth]

Sad

[dark jay]

You can put these for 99% of the time: flame ward, glacier, static orb, teleport, focus. As for arcane ascendence, it's clunky and should only be used if you need that eztra damage to skip phases like the video i sent

[cerulean plinth]

I'm really hoping that I have a heart chilling in my bank when I get home. If not, I'm farming one out tonight

[frank widget]

i did get cleanse on a strand which is nice

[cerulean plinth]

Will have to farm out a 2/3 lp one anyways

[mint relic]

Omg, I love this I just hate ascendance. 😄 thanks man

Then I assume the "not specced" flame ward is good enough with the 30% dmg reduce as well.

[dark jay]

Yeah its amazing, pop it while chanelling focus to tank hits

[dreamy zinc]

is this worth anything?

[cerulean plinth]

Not bad. Never played as a trader so idk prices

[muted dust]

the node from the runemaster to the far right that gives you flat damage per point and then a boost to marked enemies, how do you mark mobs to gain the threshold benefit? I dont get the tooltip. Its worded weird in german

[dreamy zinc]

how would i price check this

[cerulean plinth]

That's a good question. Never played trader tho soooo idk

My guess would be comparing it to similar pieces but idk

[dreamy zinc]

none on the market

[rapid hinge]

alot, dont sell cheap

[dreamy zinc]

10m ish?

[rapid hinge]

pre or post gold glitch?

[dreamy zinc]

what gold glitch

[rapid hinge]

well looks like you're not aware. Just list it for 1.5b and go down after few days if noone bites
But dont sell cheap

[dreamy zinc]

the lightless arbor one?

[cerulean plinth]

1.5b????

[dreamy zinc]

listed it

[cerulean plinth]

For how much

[dreamy zinc]

1.5b

[cerulean plinth]

Please let me know if it sells for 1b+. That is actually insane

[dreamy zinc]

lets see

[rapid hinge]

It's as good as it gets for a mana sorc. And it's the price AFTER gold glitch

[cerulean plinth]

What was this gold glitch?

[rapid hinge]

You will see (alot) more red rings than things like that. And red rings are going for hundreds of million

[neon lynx]

Ugly base tho

[cerulean plinth]

This is what I've updated my planner with throughout the day. I'm just figuring out if there are any other uniques I should go for, but I haven't put in what stats I'll be aiming for on each piece

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oza5LJbB

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 93

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (62) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,195, Regen: 22/s
▸ Mana: 235, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 404%, Regen: 89/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 6 Dex / 57 Int / 6 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 173% / 113% / 121% / 57% / 95% / 71% / 71%
▸ EHP: 1,813 / 1,813 / 1,813 / 1,738 / 1,813 / 1,744 / 1,744

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 239
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 30% (1,404)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Enchant Weapon (Passive)

Used skills:

• Fireball (23)
• Enchant Weapon (21)
• Flame Ward (24)
• Teleport (21)
• Meteor (23)

Used unique items:

• Calamity
• Woven Flesh
• Cinder Song
• Strands of Souls
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• The Invoker's Scorching Grasp
• Omnis
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
• Throne of Ambition

[cerulean plinth]

Woven flesh is just for the meantime while I figure out maxing my crit avoid.

Going from my exalted wand to base cinder song is a 50k dps decrease lmao. That's before using the 2 points it gives me but still

[umbral crescent]

guys I was trying to a build on sorc that I'm quite not liking how it is atm

suggestions of low budget ones I could change into?

[harsh abyss]

I'd suggest experimenting with different abilities to find one that you like, and then building that as your main skill.

Most skills can be focused on if you build around them

[slow cargo]

Hello, could you recommend me a build that works well for a single character, and in CoF?

[umbral crescent]

too lazy to cook my own stuff rn 🛌

Just wanted smth to clear emp monos

[cerulean plinth]

There are a bunch of guides out there for meta builds. Find a skill you think you'll like and see if there's a guide for a build that uses that skill

[harsh abyss]

Yeah, I mainly suggested trying out the different skills to see which ones you like, then you can look up a build for them. But if you just choose a build blindly, you might end up with another one you don't enjoy 🤷‍♀️

[nimble rover]

look what i found. if only base was any better 😦

[uneven palm]

can someone tell me the difference between these things (in flame ward skill tree)

[harsh abyss]

Through flames adds flat damage, Infusion Increases the damage done by a percent (additive with all other increased % you have from elsewhere)

So if you take both of those nodes and have no other sources of flat damage or increased damage, then you'll add 30 damage to all your spells.

[cerulean plinth]

Holy that's cracked

[uneven palm]

wouldn't it be 10*250% = 25?

but yea i see what you're saying; that makes sense

[harsh abyss]

No, it's 10 * [1 + Increased%(2.0)] = 30 from those screenshots.

Remember, it's not a 200% multiplier, it's 200% increased which is 1 + the increased%

[cerulean plinth]

It is almost gaming time

[harsh abyss]

If it was a multiplier, anything less than 100% would be a debuff, which would be silly. That's why with "More" multipliers added together, it's always "1+Multi"

So you end up with a situation where you have 20 base damage, 20% more, 40% more, 50% increased, 100% increased, and 230% increased being:

20 * (1 + .5 + 1 + 2.3) * (1 + .20) * (1 + .40) = 161.28 damage

All sources of Increased damage are added together additively, all More damage modifiers are multiplied together. That's why a lower More multiplier can sometimes be better than a higher Increased modifier.

[umbral crescent]

right... might try that

[scenic dock]

trying to build a lightning blast - static orb - meteor build. Impossible

[umbral crescent]

I came from POE, so it's hard to know when it's a bait build. This one I'm following came from a yt video

[harsh abyss]

I can't speak for build guides, but the goal of LE is that all skills are viable. So there's always going to be a good build that focuses on a given skill, except for some support type skills like teleport or flame ward

[uneven palm]

🤯

[harsh abyss]

Lol ARPG math gets hella complex 😝

[uneven palm]

I've been cooking up a disintegrate build that i'm pretty happy with; just got to empowered monos with it

[umbral crescent]

Gotcha!

[uneven palm]

once I flesh out some details i'll share it here for feedback

[carmine sedge]

i love runebolt

[scenic dock]

does the archmage node work on meteors summoned by the belt?

[harsh abyss]

No, it's only direct casts

[uneven palm]

something I discovered today is that this node does NOT affect damage over time spells (like disintegrate or frost wall). kinda bummer. i'm assuming that's not a bug? although it's written kinda confusingly

[cerulean plinth]

this random set belt I found is better than the exalted I was using lol

[scenic dock]

is there a way to make a lightning build with frost claw or lightning blast while using mana stacking static orc + meteor (harbinger of stars) ? Im running a very unoptimised build with 500 mana and im getting oom instantly running with lightning blast and idk if its even possible

[thorny shell]

500 mana is very little for mana stacking but that will be a forever problem with Harbinger of Stars

You'll proc so many meteors that any amount of mana will run out very quickly

[scenic dock]

is there even a reason to bring harbinger of stars if static orb is your dmg source #1 as it is on mana stacking sorc

[zinc patrol]

double mana idols start at 80m now woooooooooooooooo

could be worse i guess

[nimble rover]

static orb is your single target ability. while meteor and glacier (for belt) are your mapping abilities

[scenic dock]

yea, im trying to make meteor my single target ability while also being triggered with blightning blast (+spark charge) and orbit static orb

but i have lack luster single target dps and getting drained too quickly. Seems like it just sucks

[nimble rover]

you will be oom with this kind of build

[scenic dock]

too bad since its kind of a nice gameplay. Glacier seems boring tbf and there is no alternative so far

[nimble rover]

atleast we are real mages. using cold/fire/lightning all in 1 build 😄 (can even use necrotic damage 🙂 )

[zinc patrol]

there are plenty of alternatives lol

[scenic dock]

for similar dps output? not as far i know

[zinc patrol]

frostclaw static charge clears

unless all you care about is sitting in one spot with maxed out top end 2k mana gear, then glacier outshines of course

[nimble rover]

2k is low gear. we already have more

also frostclaw single target is not that great

[zinc patrol]

sure, and glacier movespeed and playstyle is super slow for farming. if all you care is about is standing in one spot and doing the max possible dps, then yes you will pidgeonhole yourself into one possible build

[scenic dock]

static orb is for single target dps

[zinc patrol]

plus single target is fine if you're running ice barrage on top anyway

[nimble rover]

glacier movespeed is super fast wdym. we are using wrongwarp

[thorny shell]

2k is low? I barely got 1.2k :sadcat:

[nimble rover]

well you are right. mediocre 😄

[thorny shell]

But then again, I'm full exalteds with kinda meh manastacking affixes

Missing mana on a few slots

big fan of these tho

[nimble rover]

nice gloves

[thorny shell]

Not even MG bought, self found and crafted

6fp left so I could dupe and sell

[nimble rover]

dupe and mg are together once again 😄

[thorny shell]

I mean rune of creation dupe, not exploit

[nimble rover]

ye it was a jk 🙂

[cerulean plinth]

finally got my first fireball pierce piece that isn't awful. i mean it's not great but it's something

[ebon rain]

Yikes. I was fortunate enough to get a couple for around 100k. Hopefully the market improves over the next week or so now that the dupe is fixed.

[zinc patrol]

yeah, it should come down slowly for sure but the damage will be felt long-term as folks see that and quit + those with money will still slam the top end items such as the mana stacking stuff. its a shame sadly

[proper tiger]

anybody playing sorc glacier this season? im confused with a passive and could use some help understanding it

how exactly does the glacier build cast 3 spells that dont require mana?

or is the 5 allocated points mainly just for the cast speed?

[thorny shell]

Both of those are alright without the bonus

[somber flax]

Probably a dumb question, but does Ignivars Head's fire damage get converted to lightning with disintegrate

[kind fox]

Lightning meteor gang whatup ⚡️

[bleak wind]

It likely do not

[scenic dock]

cant you play frost claw or lightning blast with meteor for mapping while having static orb for single target?

[feral moss]

no

[feral moss]

i am interested as to why you even want pierce chance with fireball as a helm affix instead of just getting the pierce nodes on fireball, since you need a max-rolled t7 pierce in order to get 100% pierce

[cerulean plinth]

because the node also increases your mana usage a ton. and I'm not running a mana stacking build at all

even just 2 points is enough to be mana negative atm if craterborn isn't up

[feral moss]

why aren't you reducing fireball's mana cost to 0? if you're using a wand like Cindersong, the pierce node just increases the mana cost from 0 to 232% of 0 which is 0

[cerulean plinth]

I don't have a cindersong yet. Best I have atm

and 100% pierce makes a pretty big difference

mana cost for fireball is 5 atm

[feral moss]

100% pierce is a big deal i agree, but you can get it through the node without needing a max-rolled t7 affix.

you only need -5 spell mana cost to get fireball reduced to 0 alongside the Mana Sphere node (-8 mana total) so you should already be at 0 with that wand

[cerulean plinth]

I'm confused. I have 2 points in the node and 50% from the t5 pierce on the helm. and I currently dont have any points in mana sphere. if I had a t7 pierce I wouldnt have the +66% mana problem at all

atm I need 2 points in piercing heat to hit 100%

my fireball tree atm. I'm going an ignite build

[feral moss]

it goes without saying you'll want a cinder song at some point for the mana cost and level to fireball but you'll probably want other sources of +fireball as well

here's my suggestion (ignore the other 4 skills, i'm being lazy with my planner)

[cerulean plinth]

I'd like to keep flame burst if possible. It does good damage. And yeah, I'm working on cinder rn. I'd love +4 fireball on chest but that aint happening anytime soon

[feral moss]

this build has 24 levels in fireball without a +fireball affix on chest. could be as high as +8

unstable core (chest) +1
cinder song (wand) +1
nihilis (amulet) +2

flame burst is good yes but there's only so many levels under the sun and some nodes are mandatory like homing, bonus projectiles, pierce, etc

[cerulean plinth]

current breakdown of my fireball with my current setup

once I finish all of my emp blessings I'll start hard focusing on getting a cinder

[feral moss]

can you link your build planner

[cerulean plinth]

lmfao

yeah I'll link it in a sec

[feral moss]

shame the rolls are kinda trash though. but nice

[cerulean plinth]

all basically min rolls unfortunately

[timid totem]

Just picked up a 2 LP cinder song, thinking of swapping from glacier to fireball

[cerulean plinth]

big if true. all depends on how the slam goes tho

[feral moss]

i ran a fireball + meteor sorc last cycle with harbinger, back when sorc was bad. it felt weak tbh. and i'm too lazy / too enamoured with my current build to revisit to see if it's any good now that sorc is buffed

[timid totem]

How does fireball stack up in comparison? I’m pretty heavily invested in the mana and ward stacking part of glacier + have a lot of gear for crit chance, cold damage, +glacier, etc.

Is the build comparable enough where a hard pivot is worth it or should i just keep scaling glacier until i get enough good fireball gear to then play around with it?

[feral moss]

but it prepared me quite nicely to critique all the builds that everyone else is doing these days with meteor

[cerulean plinth]

I definitely don't feel strong like a more meta build. But I like the playstyle

[delicate pilot]

whats the point of unstable core on frostclaw builds? u are not self casting elemental nova buff doesnt affect you, only for +1 and elemental damage, mana?

[feral moss]

fireball itself is very weak, it works better as a tool for proccing other things since it hits like 17-20 times a second

[cerulean plinth]

that's why I went more ignite focused

[feral moss]

+1 skills, mana, elemental damage, yeah

[harsh abyss]

Honestly it's just a really good all around chestpiece. Mana and Inc Ele damage are both good stats on any mage, and it has a pretty high-tier base item. And it's gonna give you +1 to all your skills

[cerulean plinth]

gonna slam it and see how it goes then i'll send planner

dang. got the 1 I didn't want

[harsh abyss]

As is tradition

[cerulean plinth]

5 mana per to 4 per pog

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (56) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,104, Regen: 19/s
▸ Mana: 186, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 430%, Regen: 67/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 77 Int / 1 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 200% / 78% / 141% / 76% / 77% / 78% / 95%
▸ EHP: 1,494 / 1,494 / 1,494 / 1,643 / 1,494 / 1,494 / 1,494

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 286
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (17)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,030)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Enchant Weapon (Passive)

Used skills:

• Fireball (21)
• Enchant Weapon (20)
• Flame Ward (23)
• Flame Rush (21)
• Meteor (21)

Used unique items:

• Woven Flesh
• Cinder Song
• Isadora's Tomb Binding
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• The Invoker's Scorching Grasp
• The Invoker's Scorching Grasp
• Soulfire
• Throne of Ambition

[cerulean plinth]

using flesh atm just for the crit avoid

I see I can't actually clear the link. I just changed a few things

[feral moss]

only 4 mana per pog? LETS GOOOOOOO
pogpogpogpogpogpogpogpogpogpog

[cerulean plinth]

down to 2 now 🙂

[feral moss]

yeah ping me once the planner link is ready

[cerulean plinth]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7xb9OJo changed up my gear a bit to get a +2 fireball on chest. better than nothing

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (56) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,127, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 186, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 510%, Regen: 67/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 97 Int / 1 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 129% / 78% / 141% / 76% / 77% / 85% / 149%
▸ EHP: 1,546 / 1,546 / 1,546 / 1,707 / 1,546 / 1,546 / 1,546

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 290
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,084)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 122%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Enchant Weapon (Passive)

Used skills:

• Fireball (23)
• Enchant Weapon (20)
• Flame Ward (22)
• Flame Rush (21)
• Meteor (21)

Used unique items:

• Cinder Song
• Isadora's Tomb Binding
• The Invoker's Scorching Grasp
• Soulfire
• Throne of Ambition

[cerulean plinth]

t7 fireball would be huge

build is very rough atm because I'm missing some pretty important pieces

[feral moss]

pretty sure your enchant weapon tree is very incorrect since many of those nodes only give melee damage which you don't use

[cerulean plinth]

the set piece waist is genuinely the best option I have atm lol

there's nothing else that I can get there that will benefit me tho. Not that I saw anyways

maybe the cleanse

[feral moss]

also since you're forced to take fire res shred in fireball to get homing, i think Smolder and Burn in Flame Rush is useless to you anyway

[buoyant fractal]

I've got 800 mana playin a meteor glacier mana stacker build but don't like how squishy it is, and how I have to cast focus a bunch. Anyone havin fun with a tankier mage build?

[unborn jewel]

Is blackhole "good" now? Or are we back to frost claw and meteor

[thorny shell]

damn

Need to find me some fire pen shards and I can finish this

[mighty portal]

"Do you want mana?" "Yes."

[thorny shell]

Hopefully I can roll implicits at least once, after adding fire pen

[kind light]

Can anyone tell me the difference in shred lightning and lightning penetration with shock?

[feral moss]

shred lightning is a debuff that reduces lightning resistance on the target

lightning penetration with shock is an effect that causes the Shock debuff to calculate its damage according to a lower resistance value than what the target has

the end result is the same - more damage. but how you get there is different which can matter for minmax and stacking multiple sources.

[rich pecan]

how can i tell my crit chance with glacier? do I just add crit strike chance and spell crit strike chance together?

[feral moss]

use only the spell crit strike chance. 👍🏻

[sleek meteor]

i feel like you should hold a staff in two hands

[rich pecan]

gotcha, is there hidden crit within the skill itself that i'm not seeing? is it possible to get max spell crit? i'm only at 38%

[sleek meteor]

it looks goofy holding a staff in one hand at the bottom of it

[dull dirge]

I did it… I made spellblade tanky enough to at least do 300+c harbs with almost no issues

[feral moss]

you can't just say something like this and not also share the build planner so we can copy it 😦

[dull dirge]

I have to upload in a bit. It is NOT easy to gear

Have to clean up cat barf first… 🤦‍♀️

[feral moss]

whether you can see it or not is up to you i guess, glacier does have bonus crit iirc as some of the nodes.

it is possible (easily) to get max spell crit

[feral moss]

you can't just say something like this and not also share a photo of the cat so we can look at it 😦

[sleek meteor]

hes gotta have some really strong wrists

[buoyant fractal]

plot twist all staves are hollow

[sleek meteor]

they are made of styrofoam

or they are wrapping paper tubes

[buoyant fractal]

the particles coming off from them arent just your skills it's little bits of microplastic styrofoam, so the enemies you dont kill still die. from cancer

[feral moss]

he's clearly holding it with two hands, the other hand is just using telekinesis. that's why there's spell effects coming off of it

[dull dirge]

Capping endurance, seed of ekkidrasil and wall of nothing helped a lot

[buoyant fractal]

trying not to get 1shot?

[vagrant axle]

Is it possible to check crit chance of current spell?

[buoyant fractal]

spell crit strike chance might be the closest way

[gentle mango]

what exactly is going on here, you went full tank so that you don't have to run away from harbingers for 80% of the fight or?

[vagrant axle]

In this list are wrong %s normally, but thanks

[feral moss]

only way is to make a spreadsheet and calculate it yourself 😦

[tight wadi]

just got both of these from the same echo, is the game trying to tell me to play mage

[dull dirge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oyqKnPYo

[silk pewter]

Spellblade, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Mage (21) / Spellblade (82) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,925, Regen: 23/s
▸ Mana: 220, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 257%, Regen: 131/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 33 Dex / 56 Int / 6 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 102% / 105% / 83% / 65% / 82% / 94% / 74%
▸ EHP: 3,780 / 3,780 / 3,780 / 3,682 / 3,780 / 3,780 / 3,755

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 73%, Threshold: 963
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (154)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (689)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Enchant Weapon (Passive)

Used skills:

• Teleport (21)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Shatter Strike (21)
• Enchant Weapon (21)
• Mana Strike (21)

Used unique items:

• Seed of Ekkidrasil
• Wall of Nothing
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Omnis

[dull dirge]

damage is not the greatest. but i think i can get it better with lp gear.

[cerulean plinth]

my gear isn't great atm but this is what the clear is like. doing 100 monos for my blessings rn

[feral moss]

you killed aberroth with this build?

[dull dirge]

no not yet

i had to make a falconer to get the helm lmao

[gentle mango]

are you sure them changes even make you tankier than just scaling your armor?

[dull dirge]

I tried that already, it didn’t work as well as I thought it would

[gentle mango]

i'm surprised you don't care for reactive ward passive line for survival

i don't know anything though

[sleek meteor]

aw dammit

i was looking at the fireball nodes and was thinking the channeling node would be good with the one that makes it fire all projectiles in a line

but the single projectile node is before the channeling one so nvm

[dull dirge]

i also tried that, but it was screwing me over and taking charges when i actually needed it

[gentle mango]

i don't mean the flame ward thing

in the mage passive tree

[dull dirge]

oh yteah i forgot about those. i think ill try that in a bit

[gentle mango]

i think i'd go for that over health nodes

[dull dirge]

yeah especially since im relying on enduranc enow

[merry pumice]

Does the fire nova you can activate with the volcanic orb node inherit nodes from your fire elemental nova skill if you're specialized in it too? And if so, how does the 4 second cool down fire nova node interact with the decreased volcanic orb cool down node? Does it override or will it only activate a nova every 4 seconds?

[feral moss]

i'm not 100% sure but i believe the Fire Nova from that node doesn't scale with the Elemental Nova tree

[merry pumice]

aww, I'm looking at fun stuff to try and see a bunch of skills can emit novas like volcanic orb and teleport and was thinking of kinda mixing a few and seeing how it felt

[sleek meteor]

any idea if the igneous force node on the fireball tree is any good?

[feral moss]

frost claw is the main nova proccer in the meta

[merry pumice]

meh i'm still in the 'wanna figure things out myself and see what works' phase

[feral moss]

totes! good luck

[serene trellis]

tf am I supposed to do about running out of mana on glacier during boss fights like eldar gaspar into the harbinger? Like I cannot get near her to hit her with mana strike and without hitting hordes of enemies I have 0 regen, im just casting 1 glacier every 30s

[feral moss]

a) use less mana
b) get tankier so you can get into melee range
c) teleport strikes in mana strike
d) get more of the Increased mana regen stat

[young prawn]

are you running Focus or Mana Strike?

[serene trellis]

Mana Strike but I may swap to try focus, idk

[young prawn]

Mana Strike is okay during the campaign. Focus is better when at monoliths. Generally speaking you want +mana on every piece of gear, also. it's priority #1 for that build

[serene trellis]

Yeah I have 700, its totally fine during monoliths but my crits not super high yet so on bosses I run out. im only level 77 so im still not even nearly geared up

All res maxed, 100% crit avoid, 23% armor, 1k health and usually ~2k ward but the Harbinger does a shitload. Also I keep getting stunned. at least I assume thats what this horrible clang noise is

At max res the rotating beam still hitting for 300/second and if I get stunned from one of the static orbs on the ground its basically instadeath

[gentle mango]

getting hit by the electric orbs is a pretty catastrophic error

[young prawn]

I'd try out Focus instead. every time hit negative, pop focus for your free instant 40%. it essentially becomes a mana potion.

[wispy rune]

make sure to spec null profusion and infusion if doing negative strat

[serene trellis]

I mean I dont hit them during gaspar but during the harbinger fight there are times where the arena is pretty much covered and the rotating beam is out plus shes attacking, there are times where its hard to avoid

[serene trellis]

Ill try out Focus with the other suggestion as well

[gentle mango]

if it's overwhelming, you can try running over them all to get rid of them

[verbal palm]

did anyone try to make vilatria's set build? looks like a pretty fun set to try lightning manastacking sorc with

[worldly ferry]

this is what im running now with frostclaw/meteor. i personally love it. its tough to get the stats you want on the rest of the gear though since two set peices cant get LP or other affixes. I'm doing 350ish corruption pretty comfortably though at the moment with sub par gear

[verbal palm]

thanks for the reply, do you also run like harbinger of stars belt, what are some other items that might work together?

[worldly ferry]

oh no no id run out of mana wayyyy too fast with that. i want to get a strand of souls but havent had any luck yet

i did try it though and it was amazing haha just burns through 1k mana so fast

[verbal palm]

i guess the crit node pretty much guarantees a cast lmao i think they should really buff the autocast mana cost on some items

[wispy rune]

its also what im running. very fun

[past obsidian]

glacier build is it good idea to use some numpad trick to autocast flame ward?

[wispy rune]

that sounds terrible

[young prawn]

yes.

[cerulean plinth]

these harbingers are actually tough if you dont have a 1 shot build. my damage is bad so they basically enrage at lower hp and attack so fast

[wispy rune]

i didnt know they enrage 🤔

[cerulean plinth]

sure feels like it

maybe they're just awful to fight as a build that isn't super mobile

[wispy rune]

dam that difference of spec timing is wild. ive never noticed

[young prawn]

arena echoes long ahh hell

[cerulean plinth]

bro this fight is brutal with this build

I'm not stopping till i get it

I just get 1 shot idk

[solemn viper]

It’s the stuns, you need to dodge them as much as possible

[cerulean plinth]

I'm trying my best lol

[solemn viper]

Also enchant weapon is pretty much useless on spells

[serene trellis]

Is there a way to view crit chance for a specific skill? I dont see it in the Alt many when I hover the skill

[solemn viper]

It’s not bad at all, it’s just the damn stuns

[cerulean plinth]

I'm using it to pop my ignite

I don't really have a different 5th skill to go anyways

[solemn viper]

Oh, i think that loses you dps

Unless you stack a ton of ignite and then pop it

[dark jay]

wow you deal no damage

[solemn viper]

Use arcane ascendence it’s WAY better

[dark jay]

the slender boss is even worse than this

it gives you no window to attack, and it does a non telegraphed attack after every thrust

[wispy rune]

no, need to calc it. LeTools can show for some or help u calc

[cerulean plinth]

only reason I use it

but yes I do no damage to bosses atm

[wispy rune]

playing to make stupid things work is the real fun

[cerulean plinth]

trueeeeee

but also help I am in pain

[solemn viper]

It still consumes all the stacks so you lose ignite dps

There was a flame reave fireball build that used that node but idr the video name

[cerulean plinth]

it's doing double the damage that the ignite stack would have done without being popped

the skill tree also gets me +25% ignite duration

[wispy rune]

tbh if ur having dmg issues and survivabiloty issuee, u needs revisit the basics of ur build

[cerulean plinth]

I need a twisted heart real bad for better ward gen

[wispy rune]

best get to that emperor of corpses

[cerulean plinth]

if only I was t10 cof 😦 will be t9 before I log off for the night

[wispy rune]

i will spend yet another day, hunting t7 int rings formy stardials 🥲

[cerulean plinth]

I'm using 100k favor rn to hit t9

[gentle mango]

why people flaming enchant weapon ignite pop

have you not tried black hole

[cerulean plinth]

I have not

[gentle mango]

nothing better for consistant ignite if you have to move alot

idk what you're doing or how it fits but ye lol

[wispy rune]

blackhole is kinda subpar due to its cd tbh

youd also need to stack some hefty fire res to make it relevant

could prob add some value against bosses that dont move a lot

[acoustic bough]

How much mana/what uniques are needed to swap from glacier/orb to glacier/meteor orb?

[merry veldt]

Never heard that before. Cindersong isn't viable at all in endgame, or?

[cerulean plinth]

as you can see by my struggles. not really

[cerulean plinth]

if you want to see pain

[merry veldt]

That's how much corr?

[cerulean plinth]

130 lol

my gear is also pretty bad atm

[wispy rune]

dam, the struggles

convert to lightning fireballs 😈

[merry veldt]

Should get better with an exalt wand already ^^

There's also some possible Legendarys here, but Cindersong isn't one afaik - not even as 4 LP

[merry veldt]

Btw you miss the base crit ^^

[cerulean plinth]

pretty damn sure my only real options are cindersong and wrongwarp

[merry veldt]

Exalt > Cinder

[wispy rune]

r u 100% crit with fireball? if not, run double crystal setup

[merry veldt]

Cinder misses the needed base dmg

[cerulean plinth]

wrongwarp it is then ig. rip

[wispy rune]

u dont have to use a unique btw

[solemn viper]

No one is, but in the fireball meteor build aa would fit better i think

[merry veldt]

Haven't checked my dps for a while in LEtools, but pretty sure it is almost the double of your damage, just with a crappy exalted for now.
CoF myself and taking it slow, I'm far from the gear I want

[merry veldt]

this ☝️

[solemn viper]

This sound fun, do you have a build for that? Lmao

[rich pecan]

for glacier sorc whats the trick for mana regen on singles? i'm struggling hard. but have no probelm in density. can spam all day

[cerulean plinth]

Yeeeah. My old exalt that's solid is a good 30k dps more.

[merry veldt]

I guess even unbuffed probably

[merry veldt]

Nice for now, even more if you use ignite

[cerulean plinth]

ye I'm ignite based

ngl did not realize cindersong base damage was THAT low. that's insane

[past obsidian]

is mana stack sorc using glacier really that good right now?

[cerulean plinth]

are you also doing a fireball build?

[merry veldt]

ye

[cerulean plinth]

hell yeah

glad to know I'm not the only one

are you planning on going for a unique wand?

[merry veldt]

Played it a bit last cycle bit never hit the ceiling, want to see how far I can take it.

Never played a caster that high, so I'm not sure how it will end. For now I plan an Exalt wand for the next 500 cor and then see what I find.

Wrongwrap is an option, tho dislike the random port strongly.

[cerulean plinth]

yeah me too. I wish cinder was better :/

[merry veldt]

Yeah, a shame that even a 4 lp can't compete in endgame

[feral moss]

cinder lets you get an extra fireball from its unique effect and also helps with mana management, so for that player's specific build, yes, cindersong is optimal.

also who in their right mind gets base crit in the fireball tree lol

[wispy rune]

depending ur setup its not bad

[merry veldt]

How high did you play a Fireball build if I may ask?

Cause I have different info on both topics and not enough own experience yet.
My highest Fireball so war was only around 300 cor

[cerulean plinth]

LFG

[wispy rune]

i cant get any int to save my life 😭

[cerulean plinth]

I did 1 gamba before bed and it paid off

[feral moss]

300 corruption but i was doing a harbinger build that used fireball to proc the meteors, not a pure fireball build

[wispy rune]

time to throw 100k favour at guild to pray on some t7 int rings

[feral moss]

doesn't matter what you feel, though. what matters is what the damage formula says. 🤷🏻‍♀️ you don't have nearly enough skill points to spare to allocate to base crit and mages already have 100% spell crit chance anyway by default

[merry veldt]

I don't see that, but time will tell.

At least for Cinder I'm sure you want avoid that, if Fireball is your main

[feral moss]

i mean we don't need to wait for time to tell, fireball already has a 100% crit chance as a mage, why would you want those nodes

[frosty pewter]

I think firestarters torch is underrated, relatively easy to get 2 - 3lp on and basically the same damagr multi as ladle

[cerulean plinth]

it has the same base damage problem

[merry veldt]

Still great for leveling

[cerulean plinth]

for sure

[merry veldt]

I saw all bigger Fireball players take it to reach 100% crit. 🤷‍♂️

Usually 1.5 base crit is quite strong

[feral moss]

I have never in my life seen anybody, anywhere, take base crit in the fireball tree, and I would argue that anyone who does so has made a horrible mistake in their build. Do you have an example?

[wispy rune]

hear me out

if you need crit, take crit nodes, if u dont need crit nodes, dont take it. 😄

[feral moss]

^this basically

[merry veldt]

true! That is why I said "time will tell me" ^^

[feral moss]

even if you wanted additional crit chance, you would take the 'more crit chance' node over the base crit chance node

there's literally no reason to take the base crit node

[wispy rune]

considering thats crit% and not base crit its just a lie, and its conditional

you grab stats as you require them based on ur build not "you HAVE to follow this setup"

[feral moss]

it's "more" crit chance not increased, so it's multiplicative and therefore multiplies your base. and it's conditional on igniting a target... which is not hard to do with fireball

[feral moss]

this is generally true but some nodes are mathematically superior to others

[wispy rune]

so what happens when i convert fireball to lightning using liaths machniations?

using sweeping statements is poor use of terms and leads people to being confused.

[cerulean plinth]

I can only get like 230 ignite stacks rn

must get it higher!!!!!

[sleek elbow]

Anyone kill abberoth with a purely meteor build?

[feral moss]

liath's is an entirely separate build that has its own considerations, but if you're going for lightning-converted fireball then you already have the base crit chance nodes by default because they're travel nodes.

[wispy rune]

again, this is why sweeping statements are poor. you take things based on what you require.

not just "X is bad", its "X is bad when you already have Y and Z"

[merry veldt]

Nelfi, 1,5k corr for example

[feral moss]

you're hopping into a conversation midway through when context has already been established and accusing me of not qualifying my statements to the context of the conversation

[feral moss]

i don't know who that is so i'd need a link to actually see their build planner 😦

[wispy rune]

yea this is not a specific context statement based on the convo u were having prior

[merry veldt]

I'm on mobile...

[feral moss]

in what context do you think the base crit chance node is useful for its crit chance? because i don't know of one

[wispy rune]

its useful when uneed base crit, how i that not simple?

[feral moss]

yes but what fireball build are you running where you need base crit?

[wispy rune]

if u already have high crit% or are on that side of the tree, u can easily pick up the base crit nodes without requiring excess points

[sleek elbow]

Are double mana idols very rare?

[wispy rune]

decently but not absurdly

[feral moss]

i would love to know what build needs more crit chance because mage already gets 100% spell crit chance by default

[dark jay]

fireball builds usually go for lightning gloves and bring enigma catalyst so they need that extra crit on the tree. Fire fireball is kinda mid

[cerulean plinth]

1 shot the fire harbinger 😄 felt so much easier than the frost one lol

[wispy rune]

on that note, imagine the mage passive was guranteed crits on spells 🤔 that could be fun

[nimble rover]

imagine abusing bugs 😄

[wispy rune]

is that to say there is a crit bug or?

[warm owl]

which build ppl use for glacier? maxroll one?

I find rly hard to find body/staff legos, swapped from frost claw ele nova.

[neon lynx]

Apparently it is. It never worked for me when I tried it

[wispy rune]

i was making a joke about if they made passives for each class

i know nothing of a crit bug tbh

[neon lynx]

Some say the rm passive that gives fat base crit after using a transversal skill is just always active

[nimble rover]

yes it is always active after 5 points i guess

[neon lynx]

I tried every point up to 8 and it never worked for me. Was sadge

[nimble rover]

well i tested today with 25% crit i critted like 8 out of 10 times

so it is working idd

but i will never build my char around bugs. just funny how is it still not fixed

[wispy rune]

im not using thenode so im fine 🤷‍♂️

[neon lynx]

I had 70% crit on sheet with 8 points in and was still seeing non crits

[tribal forge]

You guys tried seed of ekkdrasil? is it any good

[sleek elbow]

Do you guys cast flame ward with arcane ascendance?

[wispy rune]

i do often to upkeep arcanemomentum and for some DR

[sleek elbow]

Okay. I'm always worried about dying when I'm stuck in place like that lol

[wispy rune]

transient rest can also be useful depending ur build

[sleek elbow]

Yeah I still haven't found one yet XD

[viscid kindle]

Is there an item that converts disintegrate to cold damage?

[wispy rune]

dont think so

[bleak wind]

Has anyone ever tried void damage spellblade or sorc? Nemesis put T6 melee void damage on Celestial doom lol, trying to decide whether to use it on sorc or void knight

[still tulip]

Void knight better I think

[naive hazel]

Tried the void volcanic orb last cycle
Looks cool but kinda hard to scale very high

[young gust]

-Not a real build- world splitter flame reave aoe goes brrr

[naive hazel]

Something about fire and lightning dmg mixed together that just looks good, like Disintegrate, Plasma ball, etc

[young gust]

yeah for sure

[naive hazel]

Worldsplitter reads like it could be a real build 😄

[young gust]

Yeah probably, dont think its a good spellblade weapon though ngl. Generally dont really get a lot of mana on spellblades, they're better with swords all of that

[merry veldt]

Can you please explain how your "default" comes together?
Would like to see your math on that, could probably learn something. (sorry for the delay, but needed to get some work on my work 🙂 )

[feral moss]

5% base 6% catalyst is 11% base, you get ~35% from knowledge of destruction (5 points) and then at least 300% from calculated destruction (5 points). reasonably gets to 60% just from that alone.

after that, the remaining 40% varies by build but every build has some. can get additional crit from various other passives depending on build (runeword cataclysm, crackling precision, more points in knowledge of destruction) or just by stacking even more int. many builds can opt into prismatic gaze or phantom grip, or just get increased spell crit chance affix

as such you shouldn't really need a base crit node in fireball as fireball is very node-hungry since there are so many good nodes in it and way more sources of crit than you really need

[naive hazel]

Anyone know what the frost projectile into Blizzard skill is that my Mirror Images are using?

[desert mulch]

Any good skills for an int stacker/crit sorc to focus on?

[tiny belfry]

Glacier

[wispy rune]

int and crit can be nearly all sorc builds aslong as the skill crits.

meteor, fireball, frostclaw, glacier, static orb, various runjc invocations. etc.

[tiny belfry]

Isn’t runic the runemaster

[wispy rune]

oh yea didnt see he specified sorc. still same concept tho

[desert mulch]

Out of those spells, Meteor orb and glacier seem fun

[harsh thistle]

is lightning pen really needed from that tree if you go spark charge though? Shock lowers lightning resistance (up to 50%) so I'd assume some lightning pen on wand or amule would be enough, and the leech is not useful

[desert mulch]

Static orb doesn't have any base crit mods from what I can see, is that going to be a problem?

[wispy rune]

depends ur setup, makes it harder for 100% but overall its fine. i think static orb is the strongest rn by making it use a lot of mana at a time and shotgunning it

[desert mulch]

Also, is there any way for mage to bypass crit avoid on monoliths enemies?

[solemn viper]

The more pen the better, leech is needed to sustain twisted heart

[harsh thistle]

ooh I see, right, I don't use twisted heart

[solemn viper]

Everyone going mana stacking sorc so rip heart

[harsh thistle]

I mean I'm CoF and haven't started to farm for it, I'm running a T7 int weaver's will relic

I'll adjust my build if and when I drop it

[solemn viper]

Last cycle was pain to farm it on cof but with the changes to lvl 10 it should be better i hope

Also no lp heart is still useful if you cope hard enough with egg

[harsh thistle]

I wouldn't really know yet tbh, I'm only at about 200 corr in 3 monos, haven't started working on the dragon one, increasing corr. is a pain in the butt, even with the new glyphs

[tiny belfry]

Currently playing shatterstrike spark and have all the uniques to make the build alright with 2/4 spark hit idols and 80 int. Shouldn’t I be able to pretty much insta a normal mono boss

The level 64s at least

[feral moss]

i've obtained more hearts leveling a new legacy character (not even 100 yet) than i did for the entirety of cycle 1.0, thanks to cof 10

[tiny belfry]

What one is rank 10

Oh yeh the duplicating one. Really wish I would’ve unlocked factions earlier so I would’ve already had that lol

[solemn viper]

That’s amazing to hear, I’m close to rank 10 in cycle and saving the bossess i want lol

[warm owl]

Why 8X unique armour prophecy drops me 4x helmet 2 boots 2 bodies? shouldnt it be 8bodies?

been farming 6hours for the unstable core body armour.. cant even get 0 lp one-.-

[feral moss]

"armour" -> any of the 5
"body armour" -> only body

[tiny belfry]

You need one I have about 12 sitting in chests from nemesis lol

[solemn viper]

It changed, now you get more chance for a boss unique to drop

[tiny belfry]

Wait is there still one that makes your prophecies dupe?

[feral moss]

yes, it's rank 12 now.

[solemn viper]

Lvl 12 gives you double rewards now but they’re not duped

You need the lense for that

[tiny belfry]

Yeh I just need a large quantity of exalts to drop for t7s

Really glad we don’t have any echos for gloves boots and belts

[bleak wind]

I wonder if you can make a flame-reave sorcerer, since that skill only need 5 points into spellblade tree XD

[tiny belfry]

As soon as you get mana back from glacier it’s on the bottom half of the glacier tree

[silver aurora]

I have 1 extra point for flame ward (20+1),would fire aura over through flames work better if i have lightning ward and dual aegis already?

Im still leveling and in early 80's still ie

[dark jay]

fire aura literally does no damage

just get more DR

[silver aurora]

ok,what about ward per sec,ele DR,flat 80 ward,or ward for missing hp? I could but that point in one of those

[still matrix]

Ward for missinh hp seems kind of useless to me; I always have full HP and ward covering my life pool.

[silver aurora]

does energize ward per sec keep adding untill "cap"

[dark jay]

you have other options in generating ward, but DR is a rare stat

ward is capped at 10k anyway

sea of trash, day 4 of trying to find t7 mana

[scenic dock]

any gucci builds that arent running glacier or frost claw?

[still matrix]

Meteor was strong for me early game. I'm lightning FC now thjough.

[frosty pewter]

Mana stack meteor was really good for me, I didn't push it to high corr cause I didn't like the way focus plays but it's very solid

[scenic dock]

i was trying to build a raiden themed build with orbiting static orb and lightning blast

but the single target/boss dps is just awful

[rapid hinge]

if you're having single target DPS problem with static orb you must be doing something very wrong

[weary hamlet]

I already have like 12 twisted hearts, only 3 of them at 1 lp though and the rest are failed nemesis upgrades with sh it like increased hp regen

so while it's better than the previous cycle, it's still a long shot from deterministic gearing

[umbral crescent]

Last Epoch players when they're trying to target an item and have to inspect 47 different rings on their screen (They find it very fun)

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedruner-gif-20263880

[weary hamlet]

I have a few t7 mana relics it should be trivial to find compared to +4 disintegrate knowledge that I still need for my build

[gentle mango]

there's an old one on icy veins, it's nothing crazy but it's a solid supplementary ability/cooldown for adding more ailment stacks

[slim furnace]

i have flame ward self casting when stunned, should i keep it in my skill bar or replace it with something like snap freeze?

[dark jay]

i think it doesnt trigger if you dont have it on your bar no?

[weary hamlet]

you still want to have it on your bars anyways, nad that node is a trap more or less. Gotta use it when you need to, not when rngesus decides to fu ck you up

[cerulean plinth]

Same but fireball. I found my first +3 last night but the base and other stats were awful. Still no +4

Also I feel like 10x tankier with the changes I made. So ty again for the advice:)

[weary hamlet]

ironically I have a few +4 disintegrate exalts on terrible bases that don't cut it compared to my current +3 one, that weavers base is actually good in this build, could use that extra mana shielding

[cerulean plinth]

Are you mana stacking? What kind of mana usage does disintegrate have at end game?

[weary hamlet]

too high

I'm not excessively mana stacking but I have some amount of it to hit the 1k mana breakpoint, as that's some extra stats and better mana regen on the mana tunnel meteor

also the t3 channeling is around 62 per second with the boots and lucomancer discount

[cerulean plinth]

Oof damn

I updated my build drastically last night https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oRznJLzo

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Mage (28) / Sorcerer (57) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (8)

General:

▸ Health: 1,151, Regen: 32/s
▸ Mana: 187, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 530%, Regen: 67/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 102 Int / 1 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 97% / 81% / 136% / 121% / 77% / 84% / 177%
▸ EHP: 1,684 / 1,684 / 1,684 / 1,836 / 1,684 / 1,684 / 1,684

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 230
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 23% (916)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 68%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Enchant Weapon (Passive)

Used skills:

• Fireball (22)
• Enchant Weapon (20)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Flame Rush (20)
• Meteor (20)

Used unique items:

• Transient Rest
• The Invoker's Scorching Grasp
• Soulfire
• Throne of Ambition

[cerulean plinth]

Got lucky with a transient slam too

[weary hamlet]

also having some mana pool is necessary for mana shielding as obviously you don't want to be caught with your pants down, and with a well rolled Knowledge I'll be sitting at the baseline 29% conversion. I don't think it makes much sense to go all in on that though cause mana regen is nonexistent basically

[cerulean plinth]

Makes sense

[weary hamlet]

idk if I should waste more time on trying to fish for the relic slot or just do aberoth as is

should be fun painful on disintegrate omegalul

[cerulean plinth]

I was struggling last night just on normal harbingers. My build does no damage

Also if you take too long to kill them, it feels like they enrage with how quick they attack

[weary hamlet]

nah they don't enrage by themselves unless you have the mono modifier of enrages below half health

[cerulean plinth]

Ah. Gotcha

I posted a clip of my struggles last night lol

[weary hamlet]

and it's not as if disintegrate damage is stellar, the visual display is glitchy AF but I think that (combining the damage of fire aura and the beam itself independently) it hits mobs for about 45-50 a second with my current gear, although for some reason I've seen numbers of like 85k+ against shade

[cerulean plinth]

Dang that doesn't sound too bad

[weary hamlet]

still got no clue why it's all over the place, their new system of combined damage pop ups must be to blame

also since I don't have a good staff nor relic with plus skills, I'm currently lacking another 16% more from the other two points in lucomancer, nor the red ring really. The build could be pushed higher

I'm also not sure on dropping most of my current bases and focus on mana and shifting to crit + ignivar's, could theoretically yield even higher damage but at the cost of too much defense, currently the build is ultra squishy (for a turret build that is)

[cerulean plinth]

I feel that....fireball isn't exactly full turret but it basically is. Main reason I was having issues on the 1 harbinger. Just felt like I didn't have enough mobility to get out of his damage. And they hit HARD

[weary hamlet]

the fat harbinger is just rude with his generic combo at higher corruption

although half of the reason why is the dot based void beams that deal obnoxious damage cause dot isnt really mitigated by much of anything

[cerulean plinth]

They actually hit so hard. So many of my deaths were because I accidentally took a few ticks of it and got nuked. The range on them is bigger than you think

[weary hamlet]

also whoever designed the fall of the empire harbinger fight can fu ck himself, the fight is literally impossible for any stationary build cause you have like 10% uptime on casting as there are 3 or 4 distinct void zones that it puts right under your feet

and all of them are dot based and chunk your health regardless of anything

[cerulean plinth]

:^) I was having issues with the frost one

[weary hamlet]

it's the one that puts down two or three frozen ground dot based void zones that chase you around and also does the dot based frontal beam? I begin to see a pattern here

[cerulean plinth]

My attempt that started decent but went sideways. FYI this was when I was trying to make cinder work, not realizing the base damage is so incredibly low. Going back to my exalt almost doubled my damage

[weary hamlet]

actually I find her rather easy as at least the pattern was predictable and you have freecast while she is channeling

[wicked ermine]

do firebrand stacks increase fire melee damage globaly or just for firebrand?

[weary hamlet]

globally

[wicked ermine]

ok good thanks

[weary hamlet]

that's a good half of the reason why builder/spender builds with firebrand work

[wicked ermine]

yeah ive been using it as just a buff

[stable wharf]

hey, im leveling as glacier on level 17. now i found a firestarter torch and was wondering if leveling as volcanic orb wouldnt be better. can any1 recommend one of theese builds?

[weary hamlet]

both should be fine, although with the torch you want to be playing ignite as it has about zero flat damage

VO ignite is a decent build though, or VO frostbite for that matter

[stable wharf]

thx

[coarse egret]

Ok I am lost on Spark Charge: If Flame Ward gives me +10 lightning damage to attacks and spells while active.. does that apply to spark charge? if not, why not?

[weary hamlet]

it should apply, but also you probably shouldn't be specced into that as it's a waste of points for multiple reasons

[coarse egret]

"This damage does not scale with modifiers to the hit that applied the charge" what is meant with that exactly?

by specced into that you mean the flame ward thing?

[weary hamlet]

that means that it doesn't inherit more modifiers from the skills' trees that are applied to other ailment that thos skills apply

[weary hamlet]

I mean the + spell damage nodes in flame ward, it already has far too many useful nodes as is

[coarse egret]

ok, but the 250% increased damage should be worth it?

[weary hamlet]

likely also not but that depends on the rest of your build/items

[coarse egret]

ah ok, but everything global that buffs spells (lightning) works then, just not the skill tree (frost claw), ok

[weary hamlet]

if you have say even 1000% of increased damage from other sources, which is very easy to get, you will actually only be getting 12,5% more damage while it's active

[weary hamlet]

basically spark charges and shadow daggers are weird because they are skills used by you directly but triggered by ailments, which is why their scaling with skill trees is all over the place

cause the rules for ailments and triggers are different

[oak gate]

is there any good fire dot build for mage?

[harsh thistle]

I wasn’t sure about the meme crab ring before but after testing, swiftness is OP, seems like the best ring for any wrongwarp build?

Huge dmg boost through swiftness, excellent stat stick, even with 1 LP it’s worth imo. I guess it’ll also be amazing for BD and maybe other classes that care a lot about move speed

[wispy rune]

I havent given it much thought, whatre the stats like on it?

[harsh thistle]

Swiftness gives me +19% move speed at lvl 96, the implicits can give +6 vit, affixes give you up to 30% increased armor and +6 all attributes

The move speed feels so good, I’m at +95% move speed after teleporting

[full bluff]

I am trying to build a Frozen Orb sorcerer, but don't have much experience with volcanic orb. Anyone got some tips or mechanics that could be good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9OjPVIZT9w Really wondering about the speed, should it be faster or slower?

[wispy rune]

hmm not bad. Dont think itll fot my build.

Losing evade at later levels just seems rough

[autumn crypt]

so now with the new cycle do we still need to repeat everything when we create an alt such as the campaign and stacking of corruption?

[harsh thistle]

Then with LPs it can get insane

[wispy rune]

I have a 2lp crab ring sitting there. maybe itll have some use

[harsh thistle]

Yeah if you care about evade it’s a big deal, true. I walk fast enough to avoid any boss mechanic so I never used evade

[wispy rune]

if u arent legacy yea.

[cerulean plinth]

I wouldn't call it "good" compared to some of the meta builds. But I've been running a fireball ignite build that's able to do emp monos easy enough. I haven't climbed corr with it yet tho

[wispy rune]

ig thats what the swiftness is for haha

[harsh thistle]

True true

[cerulean plinth]

I need more damage atm as my boss damage is kinda trash. The clear is decent tho

[wispy rune]

maybe ill try it, but 2x julra stardials is just super nice

[harsh thistle]

Yeah it’s better for one huge big burst for sure

[autumn crypt]

thank you

[cerulean plinth]

I hit t9 cof last night. Surely this means I get flooded with godly t7s now

[stable wharf]

found a firestarter torch from event and now it has 100% ignite damage and 30% fire damage added on lvl 20, would that be op for switching to volcanic orb build or is glacier just superior?

since i only found 1 volcanic orb guide from last patch

[wispy rune]

copium

[cerulean plinth]

I've only briefly experimented with orb but it seems pretty lackluster. Probably perfectly fine going through the story and normal monos. But no clue how it scales up

[stable wharf]

hmm kk

guess i stick to well written maxxroll guide then instead of experimenting

too bad though, wish i found sth like that for glacier 😄

[cerulean plinth]

You could definitely experiment and see if you like it. It gets easier to respec as you level

Once you hit lvl 80 it's basically free to respec as needed

[stable wharf]

hmm kk gonan see, thx

[cerulean plinth]

Glgl

[weary hamlet]

ignite fireball, ignite VO, ignite glyph of dominion, disintegrate (more of a meme build)

[cerulean plinth]

Disintegrate big meme

[oak gate]

which one would be the best of those builds

[cerulean plinth]

Ash what kind of max fireball stacks should I aim for? Atm with constant fire I can get up to 300. I can't find any other way to increase ignite duration

[weary hamlet]

it should be slow but not too slow, you want it to stop inside the mob's model and not inside your own

[weary hamlet]

dreadful should have a guide for last patch and not much about that build changed since then

[stable wharf]

thats the 1 i meant

[weary hamlet]

the hidden benefit of orb is that it has very high dpet due to low, well, ET, so you can dodge mechanics more freely than on a hard cast or god forbid channeling build

[cerulean plinth]

Makes sense

[weary hamlet]

sorc passive tree has a couple of ignite duration nodes, and I think there are ignite+spreading flames duration idols too, other than that you really can't

[cerulean plinth]

I see. So at the end of the day it's limited by cast speed

[weary hamlet]

I guess fireball should be the best simply because you are spam casting an elemental spell so you have the best access to Twisted heart for survivability

[cerulean plinth]

I can't wait for heart man. It's gonna be a game changer

[weary hamlet]

I have no clue how to scale survivability on say VO ignite, perhaps still something like low life or lol vessel

[cerulean plinth]

Should I just get a 0lp heart for now? I kinda want to finish t10 cof before I really start farming boss drops hard

I'm almost done getting my empowered blessings

[weary hamlet]

it should be an improvement over more or less any other relic when it comes to survivability in your build, yes

it's a fairly dumb item really

[cerulean plinth]

Especially for high cast speed builds. Kinda insane

[full bluff]

I don't have problems with suriving in monos with volcanic orb, not tried bosses yet

[cerulean plinth]

A max rolled twisted heart would give me almost 100 ward per cast. And I'm doing multiple casts per second. Soooo

I'm able to comfortably be around 3k ward atm without it

[scarlet totem]

Funny stuff...haven't played LE for some months...was fighting mono Lagon only to discover (after a death or two) that you have to target his tentacles...imagine my confusion as i launched lots of meteors and glaciers at him to no avail, lol

[cerulean plinth]

Lmao

[gentle mango]

isn't frostclaw just still the best for ignite

maybe the mana is too scuffed now idk

[wispy rune]

anyone tried the flamethrower fireball node? seems fun but also really bad?

[weary hamlet]

it's on my list after I finish my disintegrate build

[white herald]

Hello people, kinda new to the game. Started rogue but swapped at lvl 80.
Now playing a mage runemaster, what are your best runemaster builds? 🙂

[weary hamlet]

but I already suspect it will just be strictly worse, and lol imagine being strictly worse than disintegrate

[wispy rune]

is it an actual flamethrower or just shoots out fireballs? the text seems unsure.

and yea it sounds terrible but could be fun

[full bluff]

Ice Barrage + Volcanic orb is pretty good for aoe farming favor

[gentle mango]

enjoy doing random invocations for levelling until you hit a wall because the options for runemaster are low for end game

[harsh abyss]

Speaking of channeled other abilities, I just want the Halo Effect node to work in LB. Then my channeled LB build works again 😢

[weary hamlet]

it shoots 7 fireballs per second, it's hit damage based

well I mean it's not a purely dot spell like disintegrate, you could possibly build ignite flamethrower.. although just why

[wispy rune]

Hmm. Thats kinda sad from what i was expecting. Wonder how itll play out

[harsh abyss]

I just dunno why you'd do the channeled version instead of the multi-fireball version

[wispy rune]

For fun?

[harsh abyss]

You can easily cast more than 7 fireballs a second using that 🤷‍♀️

[weary hamlet]

the biggest point exactly, channeling 7 fireballs per second sounds fun, until you realize that you could just be hardcasting 15 fireballs per second

[wispy rune]

Playing dumb stuff and trying to make it work is way more interesting than just meta stuff tbh

[weary hamlet]

wait they hadn't fixed it yet? I was planning to try that one too, eventually

Might as well just move that to 1.2 entirely

[harsh abyss]

Nope, it was one of the first things I tested in the new league. I submitted a pretty detailed bug on it via their forums: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/lightning-blast-halo-effect-node-does-not-function/72234

[wispy rune]

Sad cast speed or any form of that cant like speed up the fireball casts. would be super funny if u could

[harsh abyss]

It was bugged all 1.1 as well, which is super frustrating. I think I'm one of the only people that made a build using that node 😝

[weary hamlet]

nah it's good that cast speed has no interaction with channeled spells, that opens up different gearing/play styles. But the problem is that cast speed is very strong on most skills and most channeling skills have nothing to compensate for that

[harsh abyss]

Thing about the channeled fireball is that it's behind Unchained Fire, which if you take all the bonus projectile nodes is 72% more damage per fireball

[harsh abyss]

I definitely think there should be a set of unique gloves that converts cast speed to more damage for channeled spells

[wispy rune]

Oh yes for channeled in general. Just think it would be funny to shoot an extreme amount of fireballs from flamethrower.

Really sad it isnt just a cone of damage or something. Would be a bit more interesting but oh well

[weary hamlet]

yes but taking 5 extra projectiles is 500% more damage per cast

[weary hamlet]

ironically LB of all skills has a cone damage conversion node

it's not even that terrible, we used to play it back in 0.8.3 or so

[harsh abyss]

I've always liked the idea of the "lightning beam" conversion

I just feel like it's a little too short to be comfortable

[wispy rune]

Also, do we have any details on what theyre doing to set items? since its not just lp?

[molten lily]

can anyone tell me the meta build for sorc now? people keep saying different things

[harsh abyss]

Not really, but based on one of the weekly dev talks, it sounds like they're intending to make set items be more valuable individually. So you might not wear a whole set for a build, but you might choose individual pieces that are valuable to the build.

It sounds like they don't like the idea of the set being "one choice" where it's a binary "use the whole set or not" and that takes up a bunch of inventory slots. So it sounds like shifting the value to the individual pieces with more niche effects going to the set bonus.

So maybe we'd see something like the Vilatria staff get the int stacking buff, and then the meteor lightning conversion move to the set boost. That way you can have niche meteor build, or Vilatria staff or helm having value by themselves.

That's just my guess, but I hope if they do that they also allow LP on set items. The thing I don't like about sets is the slot being "done", there's no chase once you're using a set piece, that slot is just locked and you never need a weapon or helmet ever again (once you get a decent roll)

[weary hamlet]

That just sounds like uniques and tbh they should just bite the bullet and admit that sets are a failed idea that is incompatible with the rest of their itemization model, and scrap them completely. Turn the current sets into uniques where it makes sense as most of them are quite literlaly useless.

[wispy rune]

Thats cool. Have they mentioned how they intend to bring them on par with legos tho?

Coz i swear i remember them saying they dont want to allow LP and want its own little thing

[harsh abyss]

🤷‍♀️ I think the idea is interesting. They basically are crappy uniques currently, just without LP. So if the effects of the set are much more powerful, but more niche, it provides value to the set as a whole without making each piece mandatory.

Yeah, I think they don't want to add LP because it feels like a bandaid for sets being garbo. But LP adds so much power to uniques as a whole, sets have fallen way behind.

[dark jay]

yeah sets are too behind in high end

[harsh abyss]

I just think the way that LP makes unique items not stagnant is a huge step forward in ARPG itemization as a whole.

Especially looking at something like POE where sometims 5+ of your slots are taken up with uniques to make some weird interaction work, and then your build is just a couple rare items

[wary raptor]

Anybody know of a functioning build that maybe uses Fractured Crown and the "damage taken to mana before health" thing?

[harsh abyss]

Any mana stacking build should be able to use it. However, you'll want to upgrade to Seed of Ekkidrasil if you can. It's like Fractured Crown but allows you to get ward, which is huge.

[rocky anvil]

These 2500+ corr streamers are out of their minds lol. They get two shot at best but they manage to keep pushing

[wispy rune]

Crown disabling ward maked that item so sad.

[cerulean plinth]

Don't have to worry about getting 1 shot if you 1 shot the mob first

[dark jay]

yeah

[wary raptor]

That's great insight on that Seed vs. Crown thing. Any further insight on what type of build would use those? It would be mana stacking obviously. Any key passives to look out for? Would it basically have to be Meteor and using the "mana spent gained as ward" node?

[harsh abyss]

No, if you get enough "damage taken from mana before life", you'll be focusing more on that than on ward. Any ward you get will just be incidental and nice. I probably wouldn't go meteor at all actually, I'd go for something that scales damage with your max mana like Static Orb or Disintegrate. Since you're going to be focusing on mana as your #1 by far affix, you'll want to tie as much scaling as you can into that.

Since mana is a prefix, you'll be sacrificing damage affixes for it, which means you'll want to get as much benefit out of it as you can.

People go for meteor because it already does craptons of damage, so it's fairly easy to give up some offensive affixes in favor of defensive ones.

[nimble rover]

no negative rolls yikes!

my first amulet

[dark jay]

slot it in the nemesis machine

[nimble rover]

i will let the rngods be on my side today

[cerulean plinth]

Prayge

[nimble rover]

seems like something useful for Vk

[cerulean plinth]

14% hp and ward lost when evade huh. That sounds awful

[harsh abyss]

I mean, if you use evade. If you don't evade much or if you have ward generation and leech online, it's not that bad. +2 to all skill is pretty huge

[dark jay]

just dont dodge 4 head

[cerulean plinth]

I use evade constantly

[nimble rover]

take it like a man

[harsh abyss]

Lots of builds get travel skills on a pretty short cd so it's not as necessary

[cerulean plinth]

True

[harsh abyss]

But also if you're using Twisted Heart or something similar and have some leech, you'll have no problem recouping that life and ward loss, especially since your evade is probably moving you out of the way of incoming damage for a few seconds

[feral moss]

plus nihilis grants frenzy on evade

[nimble rover]

got 1 lp from nemesis

[feral moss]

pog

[nimble rover]

only if i could slam t7 mana 😄

[dark jay]

what's stopping you

[nimble rover]

my strong mind will be better if i dont

ah ye i will do a lil gamble. 25% is still a chance right

[feral moss]

slam something while you farm for one that has 2LP

[nimble rover]

i have 2 lp strong mind with t7 mana

[feral moss]

i mean a 2LP nihilis

[nimble rover]

well its very hard to get 2 lp nihilis. 1 per 200 amulets

only nemesis can save us

[dark jay]

🙃🔫 got 2 LP1 unstable core but they are min rolls

why did they make the rolls so low on this armour

[nimble rover]

unstable 😄

well my unstable core is also trash. but i got t6 mana so im fine

[sour thicket]

Will my Lightning Blast cast from Disintegrate trigger lightning blast from Super Conductor node in Arcane Ascendance?

[dark jay]

it doesnt trigger faster if that's what you are asking

[sour thicket]

I'm just asking if that lightning blast will trigger the lightning blast from super COnductor

[dark jay]

🤔 hmm, i don't know about this one, my logic is telling me yes

[harsh abyss]

The Superconductor lightning blase is a separate trigger from the Disintegrate lightning blast. If you activate AA and then channel disintegrate, both of them should trigger, yes.

The LB from Disintegrate isn't actually triggering the LB from AA, they're both triggered by their respective skills as a completely separate trigger

If you wanted to be silly, you could also make Static and Frost Wall trigger LBs as well

[dark jay]

new patch is coming

still no fix for cof R10

[full bluff]

Can my count be right that a single volcanic orb casts around 65 shrapnels?

[cerulean plinth]

What's broken about it rn?

I only hit t9 last night

[dark jay]

still doesnt work in dungeons

[cerulean plinth]

Good thing I don't plan on farming any dungeons atm xd

I feel so rich with my 1.5m. Is Lightless worth dumping your money into or is it still kind of a waste. Is it Lightless or the other one idr

[dark jay]

no, the chests are not affected by cof perks i'm pretty sure

[harsh abyss]

oof that's rough

[dark jay]

just kill the boss then get out

[cerulean plinth]

Truly unfortunate

[harsh abyss]

Though at the same time, what else are you going to do with your money in CoF? 🤷‍♀️

[cerulean plinth]

Tbh that would be pretty insane if it did work with cof

[dark jay]

i save money to buy stash tab, i zoom too fast to pick up gold so i'm poor af

it's an issue with high corruption, stopping = death

[cerulean plinth]

I'm hoping they increase the radius in which you can pickup things in the future. Especially gold. It would be so nice

[weary hamlet]

even without the Seed that other comment already mentions, the Crown is largely obsolete cause you can have fairly easy access to mana shielding effects that do not compromise your ward - via affixes on chest and helm, sorc passive, knowledge relic etc.

[nimble rover]

ive seen some damage dealt to mana build on yt. damage was very low tho

[cerulean plinth]

How low is low. Like struggling to clear 100 corr?

[sleek elbow]

can anyone help me figure out why I'm getting slapped in 100 corruption? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/qyietstorm/character/qyietstorm

[cerulean plinth]

Probably don't have enough defensive nodes picked in your passives like I did

Trust me it makes an insane difference

[sleek elbow]

which ones

[cerulean plinth]

Max out the blue nodes instead of x imo

[sleek elbow]

okay I'll try that thanks

[feral moss]

your armour stat is pretty low, should try getting more of that. also you have basically nothing mitigating enemy crits so you probably get crit a lot and die

[shell fern]

armor extremely low, and way overcapped resistances

[sleek elbow]

yeah I just got to empowered monos and I havent gotten all the blessings yet Iguess

[cerulean plinth]

Armor blessings definitely help a ton

[feral moss]

tough to say if your ward generation is high enough, too. your hp is almost at the minimum for a character of your level so you need some crazy ward generation to offset that

[sleek elbow]

aright I guess I need to go farm the crit resist and armor blessings

[cerulean plinth]

You could go for a woven flesh chest for now. It's a unique from abom and gives 100% crit avoid

It's pretty easy to get. But it wouldn't be a long term solution

[sleek elbow]

I think I have one in my inventory

[cerulean plinth]

It's like a 50% drop from abom I think

[sleek elbow]

I'll give that a try

[cerulean plinth]

I would also just scrap all of the offensive part of the flame ward tree for more ward

[nimble rover]

not that low ofc. compared to coc meteor

[cerulean plinth]

Everything seems low compared to that :p don't look at my build

I tickle bosses atm

[sour thicket]

Think if I'm wanting to do Lightning Disintegrate Sorcerer is a must? I was thinking Rune mage for Glyph of Dominion

[harsh abyss]

If you're going to go for Laser Focus / Hyperfocus nodes, you need to get up to 1200-1500 mana for it to really start showing value, so I think that's why people are thinking sorcerer.

If you aren't going to go for those nodes, you can totally do RM without any issue

[humble copper]

Im a little confused on how to get glyphs of insight. I think im supposed to use a rune of research on an item with an experimental affix on it. but what can i do to increase the change of the glyph of insights dropping? Should I use the rune of research only on items with an experimental affix that is above a certain tier? should I try to increase ALL affixes on the item in order to increase the chance?

[feral moss]

the non-experimental affixes don't matter. higher tier experimental affix is better odds of glyph of insight. ultimately it's random, just keep spamming rune of research. i usually only pick up the t5 experimentals but you could probably afford to do t4/t3s as well

[humble copper]

cool, cheers!

[celest urchin]

Sorry for these 2 questions that might have been asked 2000times
Is shattered strike the best sb build atm ? + Is it good ? (able to farm 1k+ corrupt)

[sour thicket]

It did get buffed. So its very good

[celest urchin]

I can't find anythings recent about the shattered strike build, is it because it's the same as before ?

[full bluff]

For bosses the slow moving volcanic orb seems best, for running monos the fast rolling one is really fun to play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q21KUjndrUg

Need a new laptop to play this 🙂

[tall oasis]

Yeah this build seems to punish computers

[cerulean plinth]

That was me and the op rogue build last season. Actually destroyed my frames lol

[full bluff]

Cold version I tried with ice barrage at same time, kept getting disconnected from server

[meager osprey]

is this worth the slam should i waste a good catalyst for these low rolls

[mild igloo]

I'm trying to build a purely meteor build with the harbinger of stars belt. Sitting at 850ish mana and it is unplayable.. I need more. Anyone else running a build like this and have some advice or tips

[untold marlin]

What are some fun mage builds right now?

[mild igloo]

If I can get this meteor build to work with better mana management then I would suggest it

[untold marlin]

is

Static orb any good?

[barren belfry]

you running glacier for mana reg?

[full bluff]

I enjoy volcanic orb at the moment

[cerulean plinth]

Gamer

Love it when people try and make lesser used abilities work

[full bluff]

Have to switch build around for bosses from fast speed to slow speed, but it works

Then the orbs sit inside the boss spamming hits

[nimble rover]

yes. it is best spell for boss killing.

[untold marlin]

Would it still be good for clear speed too or mainly boss?

[nimble rover]

the most common build currently is static orb for single target and glacier coc meteor for mapping. all these spells in 1 build.

[untold marlin]

Gootcha

[mild igloo]

No, I didn't know that was an option....currently running fireball to proc the meteors, flame shield, teleport and arcane for the dmg boost

I'll look into the glacier skill now to see which node helps regen mana

Ahh I see the critical rejuvenation node 1% max mana returned... hmmm I may also switch arcane ascendence to focus... might make more sense for mana rejuv at the sacrifice of damage to bosses

What are your thought on this @barren belfry

[shy marlin]

I somehow don't understand the haste reset of comet rush. If I would get a T7 experimental haste on boots and the teleport cdr is low enough I could refresh it with this skill ... but then I wouldn't need it anyway because the experimental affix would trigger again with the next teleport and this would grant me haste. Or are there other ways to generate haste where comet rush would be useful for?

[solemn viper]

How does fire penetration work? Let's say i have Lavamancer maxed out wich gives 15% fire pen, if i max out Craterborn from Meteor skill tree wich gives 75% fire pen does it mean i have 90% fire penetration?

[harsh abyss]

Correct. There's no maximum to penetration. Every point of penetration is effectively 1% "more" damage

[solemn viper]

Thanks! I'm trying to make a funny fire pen build with black hole and meteor lol

[cedar fox]

Why am i getting absolutely stomped in 100corruption content?

Bit of context: i am playing maxroll glacier lvl 86. 920 mana, res capped, Crit capped, "Crit immune" (103% avoidence), armor is quite low i suppose at around 20% reduction.

I simply get oneshotted by almost every mechanic the empowered harbringers does and i cant for the life of me figure out why... Please help me 😤😅

[dim jolt]

how much hp/ward do you have? Res capping is not nearly as important in this game as it is in others. Actually having a high enough base health/ward combined is usually more important.

[cedar fox]

Ty for reply!

I got 950 hp/1700 ward standing still

Easily reaching 2500+ ward while getting to do dmg

[south yoke]

is this any good ?

[dim jolt]

Far too low for corruption if you're getting hit in my opinion. Either need to dodge abilities (not get hit), find more Ward in your build, or get some additional +health modifiers going.

[nimble rover]

we are not using + health. his health is fine. his ward is maybe a bit low tho. but anyway you need to dodge mechanics. you cant just stay

[nimble rover]

are you using lost knowledge node?

your ward will be much higher. you need to stack some mana tho

[tiny belfry]

2500 ward is pretty low all my builds so far are hitting that at level 50

[hoary flare]

[tiny belfry]

what build are you using that for

[hoary flare]

static orb glacier

[nimble rover]

poggers. if only crit multi instead of l damage 😦

[tiny belfry]

so sad the implicit is low rolled and the haste on hit

but assuming static orb is hitting a lot that part might not matter

[hoary flare]

cant complain man, I got it 2 LP atleast

[nimble rover]

its not matter. because we are clearing with glacier + meteor

and its perma haste

[tiny belfry]

the spell damage does but its still good

[nimble rover]

idk man. the guy got 2 lp 🙂 you are acting like we are 1 month in the cycle 😄

[tiny belfry]

im not shitting on him lol im just saying thats tough that it didnt high roll

[hoary flare]

I actually got x2 wands 2 LP, and x2 1 LP, first slam worked

[tiny belfry]

i cant even kill the boiss to get my 1lp wrong wrap cast speed on my glacier xD

[nimble rover]

ah im still working on 2 lps. no luck with slams yet

[hoary flare]

work on ur dodge game bro

[tiny belfry]

its not that i just dont kill her fast enough thats its too many phases

100k pre buffs and it takes forever

before i had 0 void res and the pool she put down insta killed me xD

[hoary flare]

I couldnt kill her with glacier doing 0 dmg

[nimble rover]

are you talking bout julra?

[hoary flare]

yes

[tiny belfry]

ive since swapped to shatter strike and i feel like i got baited by the maxroll guide

[nimble rover]

we. static orb users killing her like a regular mob 😄

[hoary flare]

nah, I didnt give up, just swapped few points in glacier, used strand of souls belt and killed her

[tiny belfry]

oh so just take me through it real quick thanks 🙂 lol jk

[nimble rover]

i can if you need

[hoary flare]

cause you cant teleport while beams are circling, too risky, so the burst window is very small, glacier has to do dmg if u are not 1 shotting her

[tiny belfry]

i dont ive swapped off the build for now

[nimble rover]

you can with wrong warp tho

[tiny belfry]

if you get wrong wraped into a bad spot its still risky

[nimble rover]

it is hard to die with immune

[tiny belfry]

i feel like i should be insta killing regular mono bosses by now