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finite trellis
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i mean....yeah better gear always gonna help, but I got the entire build except red rings and even at level 80 you gotta do boss mechanics lol. That's pretty bad.

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maybe im spoiled form avalanche shammy and falconer, i dunno

gloomy topaz
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glacier just grab Static Orb pretty much
make it boss killer version and shotgun them to oblivion

uneven valve
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any build i can use a 3 LP tribolectra on?

past obsidian
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why is glacier so hot right now?

young prawn
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because haha ice go boom

neon lynx
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@dark jay have u tried wrongwarp/exile boots yet?

silent lark
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I'm looking at people playing disintegrate on last epoch tools, and there seem to be a few that run meteor with it. I'm curious: why? Is there some synergy I'm not seeing?

sinful shard
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why do i see many static orb builds taking this node? Even if they are not COC meteor?

dark jay
dark jay
harsh abyss
sinful shard
dark jay
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1 cast applies multiple stacks at shotgun range so it's like 5 stacks per static orb

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literally FREE damage (don't use it with coc meteor though, you will go oom)

strange cape
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Hey all I have a question about the brand of deception passive node. It says that it will scale DOT to shcok chance % 1 to 1. When reading this though I'm unsure if it's global shock chance % combining hit chance and chance when hit or is it only for shcok chance on hit and not when attacked? Thanks in advance

harsh abyss
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It's your shock chance on hit, not chance to shock when you get hit

strange cape
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Arhh ok I think the wording could use some adjusting on that since the way it is written sounds like a global shock chance base. Using it in a Rune Gale based invoc build

harsh abyss
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Well, that IS global shock chance base. Chance to shock when you get hit is a different, more specific stat that isn't part of your global shock chance.

strange cape
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true yeah I guess it dose have it's own seperate % tab on the character sheet too. Dose the shock chance with lightning skills count also? I notcied that dosen't affect the % number for blanket "chance to shock" on the stats page

molten spear
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are the only good builds for endgame on maxroll or can almost anything work

umbral crescent
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planner also has good builds

molten spear
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whats planner website?

umbral crescent
neon lynx
molten spear
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thank you

dusk bough
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Whats current best Runemaster build?

molten spear
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i was thinking of doing the plasma orb endgame build after I get to endgame with runemaster that is on maxroll but not sure how it is exactly

rocky anvil
# molten spear i was thinking of doing the plasma orb endgame build after I get to endgame with...

There's one major weak point with that build since its inception in that it becomes a serious APM build late game that becomes even more APM intense the better your gear gets because of cast speed needing you to do like two rune rotations per second.

In 1.1, the build is a lot worse due to reowyns losing its entire DR stat and the ward buff on it being practically nullified due to ward generation nerfs in general in 1.1. besides that, even with the ward generation buff for reowyn, most of your ward generation still comes from other sources.

molten spear
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ah i see oof

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would the hydrahedron guide on maxroll for runemaster have the same issue or would it be better then that sense?

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I am still in story for my mage so i havent even selected a mastery either

rocky anvil
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The build just can't compete with the massive tankiness of sorc builds

molten spear
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got it so sorc builds are just way tankier then

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how are spellblades I see that they just melee range but are they actually good?

rocky anvil
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I think the only viable (Or should I say, competitive enough with sorc builds) spellblade build I know of is the shatterstrike build with enigma where you use enigma's "sparkcharge bonus % on melee" and apply it to shatterstrike which with the correct nodes has many melee hits/s. Then use mana strike to recharge your mana bar. And you repeat this process.

I think there are many spellblade builds out there that can reach corruption 500 and even 800 (Beating most other melee builds) but that build is the only one that can keep up with the top sorc builds around ~1300 corruption.

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I think glacier will even outperform S tier builds from 1.0, so perhaps that one will manage more than 1500. If disintegrate was working properly, perhaps that one would also reach that, but that'd need a bugfix on the node interactions with stutterstepping.

A lot of this also depends on toughness of which we're not sure they can handle that (RM 1.0 with 30% DR was extra good with the old ward calculations)

molten spear
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Whats wrong with disintegration?

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Whats like the go to sorc build? I saw ziz going for the frostclaw frost thingie build

rocky anvil
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I think the frostclaw build is very solid yes. Takes a bit of effort to make sure you can sustain the mana cost due to needing some -5 mana cost on gear. As for disintegration, the nodes aren't keeping disintegration up at tier 3 like they said they would when you stutterstep sometimes. And that costs you a ton of DPS

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With harbingers and such, you need to move a lot, and thus every time you risk losing your t2-3 disintegrate bonus.

molten spear
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Damn unfortunate for disintegration

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Thank you for the info!

rocky anvil
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I'm sure it's on the list to fix even mid-cycle because it is a bug after all.

👍

molten spear
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Think I’ll go for sorc frostclaw then and use the sorc leveling guide on maxroll before i transition into the endgame frostclaw

south monolith
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Whats a good frostclaw guide to follow, there so many?

rocky anvil
velvet crag
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did they patch something? im playing shatter spellblade with sparks and stuff and randomly since few hours my mana keeps disappering

rocky anvil
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An example

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Also don't forget that there's an affix on gear that makes damage you take reduce your mana instead of your health... That might be what you're experiencing?

velvet crag
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Nvm i misslicked and played with harbringer of stars unique belt im guessing the meteor casts ate my mana

night cliff
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any1 playin shatter strike spellblade this cycle?

velvet crag
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yeah me

night cliff
velvet crag
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It plays really well scaling is easy u have great damage and u are tanky

velvet crag
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if u like burst and run and burst gameplay i recommend

night cliff
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i still need the catalyst

feral trail
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Why is it so hard to get staff drop ?
I am still using lvl 16 staff tom

naive hazel
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Does Ignivar's Head scale via Increased Spell Crit or the actual Crit Chance calculated from 5% base times increased?

echo valve
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Any hydrahedron rune master here?

bleak vigil
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question about applying ignite with elemental nova here...
theres this talent ELEMENTAL TRANQULITY, which gives +20% ignite to fire nova
and theres this talent IMMOLATION that gives +25% ignite to all novas
if I have tranqulity already, all my fire novas can ignite right?

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follow up question with SHATTER NOVA, which has 10% more damage against chilled, shocked, frozen, ignited
if i have a mob that is all 4, it takes 4x10%?

warm owl
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anyone plays frost claw sorc? I do 200-300corrupt, but struggling with dps? only big dps upgrade is 2-4LP and first get the IRE staff with 2LP+?

young prawn
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tried 1st empowered mono boss with glacier... really disappointed. I just run out of mana instantly and the fight becomes a slog. guess I need better gear, but I'm just really unimpressed with this build overall. meh clear speed even with lots of cast speed. jank playstyle, too.

zinc patrol
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but i was already level 93 then so

young prawn
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imo the build should feel way stronger given how jank the playstyle is

zinc patrol
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its all relative, if you're comparing to last season that will never be true because everything is weaker

young prawn
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that could be part of the problem, too.

weary hamlet
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cause most mana regen skills in this game are crap and glacier has decent built in mana sustain at high mana pools

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Haven't played my sorc too much and I'm only currently at about 250 corr with disintegrate, smooth sailing so far but lol 250 corr is nothing

mint relic
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glacier sorc issues for me - the toggle thing where u cant move is not great

zinc patrol
weary hamlet
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I doubt that disintegrate can push beyond 500 really in its current state

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Wait I thought that this was always known, did they break something with the freeze multi scaling?

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The sole reason why throne of ambition exists is to balance lightning being better than fire and cold due to shock

gloomy topaz
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Wonder if they gonna add LP for set at some points

Would love Meteor if can convert it to Lightning but the set is the only way to do it but it feels falling off a lot due to no LP

weary hamlet
zinc patrol
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lot of people were hoping it would math out that the compensatory buffs and base changes would push disintegrate over, but the multiplicative interaction nerf was just way too much

still tulip
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would you guys recommend to directly start building the glacier sorc with a new char? or should i use a different build and make the glacier later

zinc patrol
weary hamlet
# night cliff but also this

this is from that maxroll guide again? I have no idea why they label their spark charge spellblade build "shatter strike" cause the shatter strike in it does f uck all and could be replaced by any other melee skill

weary hamlet
still tulip
gloomy topaz
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Just whatever decent exalted gears work imo

Glacier can sustain itself for farming if you have enough 100% crit and the node that refunds mana / at around 800 mana

zinc patrol
still tulip
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alr ty

weary hamlet
zinc patrol
gloomy topaz
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Even if the damage is competive I think the channeling playstyle is just too janky

And it doesn’t benefits the various nodes that give benefits on spamming 40 mana spells like Lost Knowledge

zinc patrol
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a smoother moving channeling build like a d3 spinning dh would be cool to see someday

weary hamlet
zinc ether
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I'm trying to theorycraft (which I suck at) a spellblade focused on flamereave and sunwreath unique ring. i would like to avoid building rhythm of fire with another skill and instead focus on attack speed. Am I just sacrificing too much damage for my own comfort like this?

weary hamlet
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at this point I wouldn't be surprised if channeled fireball was strictly better than channeling disintegrate except for this bit of dr

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I'll eventually try it just for the luls

weary hamlet
zinc ether
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I see! However, i'm also trying to avoid using mana strike and instead would like to self sustain my mana. No idea how to approach this tho

weary hamlet
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you will not sustain it without mana strike, not even without the ring but much less with the ring

zinc ether
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hmph i feared that

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alright thanks!

weary hamlet
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at least without putting a lot of points into mana efficiency nodes instead of damage nodes, and flame reave needs every last bit of damage it can get

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although maybe you could in fact have enough points to go for most of the damage nodes + mana efficiency, but that still leaves the cost at around what - 18 per use? You won't sustain that for long without a way to regen mana

zinc ether
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wait why 18? flame reave with the mana nodes is 8 mana, sunwreath can roll as +4 mana which makes it 12 total, then maybe use mana reaver node on spellblade for +3 mana gain which makes it psuedo 9 total?

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wait it might be even less, as i currently have a +8 mana cost sunwreath and it only increases the cost by 3 with the mana nodes. math is my worst enemy

still tulip
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Same bro same XD

jolly gyro
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are there any cool interactions/uses of "Black Hole"?
the only interactoin I found is in its Tree with "Meteor" - no uniques, passives or other skills that have combos with it D:

prime fable
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Hi guys. I am following a glacier build and i noticed the guy on YT has 460M gold. How is that possible. What am i missing. Im also in the merchant guilde

rapid hinge
proud swift
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Does 'Arcane Batter' node from the Runic invocation skill tree also provide Runic energy for mana spent by auto casted skills?

tidal hatch
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roughly how much is this worth on merch

bleak vigil
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is this 120% if i have all stacks

rocky anvil
gloomy topaz
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damn
too bad Tribo / pure static orb is just kinda inferior to either Glacier or Spark Charge FC

still tulip
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Which class should I pick? Using fireball, fire desintegrate and maybe the volcanic orb (sorcerer would be cool with meteorite but Runemaster would be also nice with the runes and stuff)

weary hamlet
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go with sorc if you don't plan on using any of the RM-specific skills

still tulip
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👍

errant shadow
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Is the game harder ? I am following the sorcerer leveling guide from maxroll (the one with Glacier).
I am currently in the 4th chapter at lvl 27 in a 24 zone and I die in a few hits.

delicate pilot
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im going to be crazy playing sorc since league start (100 lvl mage) never see wand on nemesis (not unique wands rares and exalteds) any gm to help me? only getting swords,axe,mace and shields

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
delicate pilot
neon lynx
gloomy topaz
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it casts the normal static orbs that you supposed to cast / has every nodes I think

errant shadow
neon lynx
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oh i misread that. it only reduces the cost by 10%, not it costs 10% lol

weary hamlet
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Also make sure you haven't equipped the masochist boots

lofty sinew
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what level should you be for the shattered road endgame?

weary hamlet
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It's hard to imagine you reaching the pinnacle boss on your first character before levels 95+

neon lynx
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did they make +ranks exalts more common this cycle? i see so many of them compared to 1.0 lol

weary hamlet
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I'm seeing much less of them if anything, looks like it's ole good rng

neon lynx
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maybe its just im seeing all ranks and none of what i want. lol lvl 96 and still using a rare relic 🤣

worn kite
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im rerolling to glacier sorcerer, any lvling uniques or sets to move through campaign faster?

harsh thistle
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Are the sacrificial embrace gloves any good? Got a 2LP one, seems interesting to try with a FC crit build maybe

neon lynx
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i wish you could adjust what shows up on ur mini map like you can in path

harsh thistle
mighty vortex
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hey folks just started a sorc. last night. first time playing ive bookmarked a guide on maxroll but for simplicity could someone gimme like a "top 4" loot/gear i should REALLY keep an eye out for... doing the "standard meta build" with glacier and seemingly alot of frost related skills ?

dark jay
mighty vortex
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jimminy crickets lol ok thanks looks like ive got some serious grinding to get to

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put about 644 hrs into d4 in less than 9 weeks lmao so might as well go nuts here too... looks to me like the sorc is the "pit pusher" here in last epoch ??

dark jay
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sorc is the squishy boss deleter

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omegalul it's OP as hell, like if you compare druid with sorc, they are not even in the same game

cerulean plinth
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If you're playing the meta build ye for sure. I'm still trying to make fireball work heavybreathing

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Fireball ignite go brr

neon lynx
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every class is always gonna have shi tier builds kappa

ocean horizon
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I'm following the maxroll guide for runemaster plasma orb which tells me to get fundamental criterion and stack dex, but then it also tells me to use a staff. How does this work. I only get more damage from dex by using Gon as a first rune but plasma orb uses Rah as a first rune?

neon lynx
dark jay
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a fat unstable core just dropped, surely nothing will go wrong with this

neon lynx
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gz on ur tier 2 health roll from nemi

dark jay
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into the memesis machine we go

neon lynx
ocean horizon
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Oh I see it now, thanks!

harsh thistle
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So nobody tried the void gloves?

neon lynx
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throwing away a huge dmg multi sounds bad

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doubt anyones tried it

harsh thistle
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Yeah, I’m wondering if it’s worth triggering it like crazy with FC

neon lynx
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try it. crit multi is op tho

unborn jolt
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does archmage passive trigger when I use black hole to trigger meteor?

gloomy topaz
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so what's the reason for some builds to use Static Shell when they don't even specialize in Static or use it
just for the armor value / damage against shocked?

neon lynx
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ya, its a more multi for dmg

wicked ermine
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are there anyways to autmoate flame ward as a spellblade?

jolly gyro
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I think I found 2 skill perks that cancel each other without it being said in the info text, can any1 confirm? For "Black Hole"
Perk 1: "Binary System" - Black Hole becomes 2 Stars which orbit each other
Perk 2: "Singularity" - Black Hole deals +50 % more damage but only 1 Black Hole can be created at a time.
The visual effect gets from 2 stars orbiting to ONE black hole.
This feels more like a bug tho, since "Binary System" doesnt cast 2 Black Holes, right?

bleak otter
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Is there anyone who cooked good lightning fireball build?

rapid hinge
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I havent tried it out in game yet but it sounds at least decent theory wisse

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the new passive and items help fireball quite a lot

bleak otter
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because i got these 2 badboys and thought it could work, but couldnt find a build anywhere

dark jay
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that used to work but got nerfed

full bluff
worn valley
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followed the maxroll runemaster guide for levelling which is centred around frost claw. Want to transition to the 70+ frost claw build but obviously now ballsed as i chose runemaster mastery while follwoing the guide. Am i just screwed and stuck to any runemaster build from now on

neon lynx
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ur stuck with runemaster yes

worn valley
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Nice.. Whats the best runemaster build to aim for?

lone prairie
worn valley
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I dont see any runemaster frost claw, only sorc

neon lynx
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theres place u can go for builds besides maxtroll lol

lone prairie
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He has a whole spreadsheet for the build

noble bay
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FrozenSentinal is playing FrostClaw Sorc now.

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The Runemaster build was for last cycle, but it still works. It's just not as optimal as the sorc from my understanding.

lone prairie
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Idk, I'm playing it rn with 0 LP and blast

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5k ward, one shot most rares

worn valley
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Thanks will look into Frozens build then, sorry new to the game and overwhelmed with everything

noble bay
lone prairie
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I'm also "new" (been playing for two weeks now) and out of Paladin, Runemaster and Falconer, Falconer was the best one leveling wise. Paladin second because of the tankiness. Runemaster was the worst

neon lynx
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man how far is this gonna go

jolly gyro
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(not the only problem with "Black Hole" visuals lul the effect length and visual model dont fit at all, especially if you buff the length of the effect, model disappears but dmg effects still happens as it should)

jolly gyro
cerulean plinth
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Think i might be leveling an alt soon while I wait for a few pieces for my sorc. I really need a +4 fireball and the fireball pierce affix for my build to shine

worn valley
worn valley
south monolith
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is there a frostclaw spark build for sorc anyone can post?

noble bay
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Yeah, I played Runemaster last cycle as well. 🙂

bleak otter
remote solar
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Any good zones to reset for mages besides lakeside trail

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Not sure if they all got nerfed the same

gentle mango
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is blackhole ignite/frostbite a real build? i haven't seen it anywhere besides icy veins

cerulean plinth
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

south monolith
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Still just leveling and i just made it to emp mono, no builds use 2h staffs, is this ok to use for now?

cerulean plinth
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That is a pretty sick staff for a mana stacking build

remote solar
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Staffs are good for progression

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Late game crit catalysts are insane but you need 2 well rolled gears so that’s why they usually go cata

neon lynx
gloomy topaz
neon lynx
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lolol nice "pinnacle boss"

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thats gotta be his standard character ya?

gloomy topaz
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yeah it's legacy char

neon lynx
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theres no way dudes got gear like that on cycle lol

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surprised hes using rests over exile

weary hamlet
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you don't have to slavishly copy a guide from level 1 or else the big bad lizard from maxroll will drop by and tear your balls off

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a lot of builds that could be labeled as "theme" or "meme" builds are viable to 300-500 corruption

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
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I ran ignite glyph a patch or two ago, it's not bad by any stretch of imagination, it's just a "fair" build in a time when people were running 25k corruption on the really broken builds

mint relic
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if the glacier is not my poison which is the next best build for high corruption?

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I am a meta slave so i have started glacier obv

cerulean plinth
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Lvl 92 atm working on getting my blessings

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Got my throne last night too

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Rn I can get my ignite to like 350ish stacks before it starts falling off

weary hamlet
cerulean plinth
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Makes sense

weary hamlet
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yeah for fireball you really want to have a high roll pierce exalt so you don't have to spend points in the tree on this effect

cerulean plinth
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Do you have any tips for survivability with a build like that? I can't really do any of the mana stacking cheese the op builds are doing

weary hamlet
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for survivability fireball is better cause you can stack more ward with say twisted heart + the ward on hit items/effects in meteor, class tree etc. I'd say that it's actually far ahead of the glyph builds cause glyph builds kinda stack health on mage

cerulean plinth
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Good to know tyvm

weary hamlet
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sure you get a fair amount of endurance/e thresh from RM tree but still

cerulean plinth
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Enchant weapon worth going for the ignite pop?

weary hamlet
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sure, you don't need anything else for that skill slot anyways as fireball should be fairly mana neutral with craterborn

cerulean plinth
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It seems decent. Kinda annoying how close you have to be for it to work tho

weary hamlet
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you'll be up close with most bosses anyways

minor flume
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Does "Archmage" passive work with channeled skills? (Pretty sure it does not, but double-checking)

cerulean plinth
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True

weary hamlet
cerulean plinth
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Should I be going for ignite chance on gear?

cerulean plinth
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I saw a comment on a post saying "you have too much ignite chance" on a similar build and I was very confused

weary hamlet
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just sim yourself, oh wait sorry wrong game

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the tldr is that your dps formula is basically X * Y * Z and your total stat budget is X+Y+Z <= const, so you want to spread your stats evenly between all the stats and not hyper focus on one of them. But it's been a while since I last played this kind of build so I cant remember offhand what other relevant stats ignite chance competes against, other than generic things like int etc

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obv you also want to have good slams on your legendaries, say fireball pierce is head slot so you really want to get that on calamity or whatever other helm you are using

cerulean plinth
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Interesting I've never heard of that before. Thank you for the info 🙂

broken trellis
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is blackhole scattered node just dont work?

shut escarp
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I feel like its almsot pointless using frostbite shackles with the ward nerf

dark jay
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WHY WHY WHY IT WAS HIGH ROLL 😭

cerulean plinth
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Gg

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Nemesis gives and he takes. Usually he takes

dark jay
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i got another one but the rolls...

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may as well not bother

cerulean plinth
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Surely this is the one

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+19 vs 118 holy

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Nvm don't bother lmao

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Kinda wish there was a way to re-roll implicits on uniques

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Even if it was tedious/expensive to do so

gentle mango
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enigma catalyst roll range is really annoying for CoF

weary hamlet
cerulean plinth
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Lmao

wary sand
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Hello, I have a question on the runemaster
If I take :
-infernal nova on elemental nova
-elemental starfield on runic invocation
Does it cast the 3 nova ? (if I have the 3 runes)
In teleport or frost claw it's on the tooltip but not in starfield

proven haven
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I just had a thought, what if Spellblade was literally better than Runemaster for FC Nova. The late part of the RM tree is giga nerfed, and the best invo doesn't provide 30% DR anymore.

sleek elbow
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anyone kill abberoth with a meteor build?

wicked mist
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Mad Alchemist's Ladle or Dragorath's Claw for spark charge FC sorc

rapid hinge
wicked mist
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that's what my gut was thinking, but I saw a lot of Ladle builds

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but you also lose 1 skill slot

rapid hinge
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you dont lose anything, nobody force you to spec lightning blast

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Also with Dragorath, you can get 3 points into FC's refund on cast node without going under 40 manacost. You cant do the same with ladle

jolly gyro
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I thought it would at least LOOK cool, but thats also pretty disappointing

wicked mist
rapid hinge
proven haven
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Also - cast speed is relevant for bosses where you can dump the whole mana pool for burst

proven haven
rapid hinge
proven haven
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Then you recover your mana normally as you would anyway, I'm just saying it's not a dead stat

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cast speed also improves your mobility in echos, stand still shorter time = get hit less

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3/3 GoW still applies Spark Charge with Claw? are you 100% sure?

nimble rover
rapid hinge
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oh i never meant to say it's a dead stat. And with dragorath you can always get cast speed from cast speed with lightning aegis idol

proven haven
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Aegis breaks when you take 250 damage though, even if that damage is taken to your ward

rapid hinge
proven haven
rapid hinge
proven haven
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yea, thank you

rapid hinge
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pls ignore the audio

proven haven
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if definitely is applying, tooltip says 40?

rapid hinge
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yes

proven haven
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weird. I heard someone else say the same with dragorath. I tested a different 40 mana cost setup before and it didn't work

dull zodiac
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Would a 2lp laddle that managed to get t6 cast speed beat a badly slammed wrongwarp on glacier sorc?

proven haven
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some funky stuff going on here with mana cost it seems

rapid hinge
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you want me to unequip enigma + LB to be sure?

zinc ether
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Anyone has a cold crit shatter strike build? I'm not really sure I want the maxroll spark charge version...

proven haven
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keep enigma, just do it without a weapon

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inb4 those booms are just from LB, that would be awkward.

rapid hinge
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looks like it doesnt apply

proven haven
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yea so those were all from your LB - you were missing out on the FC spark charges

rapid hinge
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holy lol omegalul

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no wonder why my DPS is tanking at 900c

proven haven
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Well at least my calculator is correct then, that's good news lmao

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you got to 900c without a functioning FC Spark Charge? wow lol

rapid hinge
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omegalul 😂

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so you're saying i'm about to become super saiyan now 🤔

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hmm so my DPS was mainly from LB? If that's the case it's quite impressive tbh

proven haven
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Okay so here's the math; With Claw + 2 GoW you have 44 mana cost and net mana loss of -41.12 per cast on average. With 1 GoW + Frozen Reign, you have 41.8 mana cost, and -40.36 per cast on average.

It's actually better to do 1 GoW + Frozen Reign

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r/theydidthemath

rapid hinge
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that's the math i want to hear 😎

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ok let's try it with this new knowledge

proven haven
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Also I just made another discovery that will help

rapid hinge
proven haven
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the Reowyn's Veil node in FC is per bounce and works with Global Freeze Rate multi, so you want the +600% freeze rate in teleport tree. It gives an extra 75 ward per FC cast - bonkers

rapid hinge
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already done that

proven haven
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Do you have cold and calculating? It also gives a boost of ward it seems

rapid hinge
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i do

proven haven
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I'm testing an FC Spellblade right now that uses all the new crit nodes for free crit cap + massive boost of ward from the Crit -> Freeze Rate -> Ward setup. seems solid tbh, weird world we live in

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5k resting ward without low life setup, and several hundred ward per cast

rapid hinge
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do you think it's worth it to use horn of ukheros + FC's mana eff stuff
To bump up Meteor's cost while keeping FC's cost at close to 40
To increase the mana/sec from tele meteor tech

proven haven
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To help with mana cost?

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It prevents using enigma tho

rapid hinge
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oh nvm you lose enigma

frigid saddle
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Is there a way to increase the damage of snap freeze?

proven haven
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if you wanted a cool setup, I'd say gate staff. You'd still get a lot of flat plus get the mana thing. Don't need to stack int

rapid hinge
proven haven
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I think it will be hard to beat enigma, that's like 400 flat end game

rapid hinge
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Main culprit is the less cast speed per extra projectile from FB's tree. I'm shooting very slow ven with 150+ sheet cast speed

proven haven
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not worth :/

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Not much can hit as many times per second as FC with 40+ mana cost, I think only IB has come close?

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Lol testing in offline and I can sort of clear 3k corruption with Spellblade FC Nova, hilarious

rapid hinge
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what's the selling point of spellblade for FC?

proven haven
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Free crit cap because of the flat crit node, allows you to drop prismatic and replace all spell crit affixes with crit multi or cast speed

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still end up with like 250% crit chance for FC

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which is like 1250% freeze rate - huge ward per cast

rapid hinge
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does uncapped crit have effect for that node?

proven haven
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I think so? not 100% sure. either way free crit cap is big

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and 5k resting ward is a lot without low life

rapid surge
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65hours after the release still cannot be 9 level or more.... its so embrassing spending that much and trying to grind like braindead..

gentle mango
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yeah faction rep is ridiculously slow

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i swear it didn't take this long last season even though they said 12 is quicker than old 10

proven haven
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is it just a MG problem? I was CoF R12 on day 3

rapid surge
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i droppped an item at low levels from nemesis but ppl can buy my item if they reach rank 12 ... pretty annoying

rapid hinge
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jumping between timelines to complete harbinger might slowed down your favor gain

gentle mango
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that's a big point

rapid hinge
rapid surge
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for example , cleared 2 times that whole map around 100-250 corruption just made 20k favor or smth

rapid surge
# onyx river bro spend that favor

still not fixing my problem, its only 65k , i need farm more for buy an item , if i need there , should i gonna do farm and get an item after farmed alot favor ?

rapid hinge
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i dont think full clear is a good idea

cerulean plinth
dark jay
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you gain like 10k per ritual lake run

gentle mango
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definitely gonna ignore harbingers next season until like 500 corruption in 1 timeline besides the ones you naturally do from blessing farm

onyx river
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if ur farming levels don't hold onto more than 20k favor, spend that at the gambler if u need to

dark jay
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it's kinda insane how fast your favor gains once your build gets going

rapid surge
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there is no good game with graphics around but i wanted to quit every day from this game , if i had game to play , i would like to switch

proven haven
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you should get R12 around the time you get to level 100 tbh. You could math it up but 100 is 405M exp now iirc

cerulean plinth
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You could just not play. Crazy concept

proven haven
onyx river
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ngl this mana stacking sorc is so fun but not having constant haste makes me miss rogue

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also, guy attunement gives mana, BUY MY STUFF that i'm crafting with mana + attunement affixes 😦

eager sparrow
scenic dock
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how good is lightning blast compared to glacial

eager sparrow
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I wonder why they still not released poll to nerf SC Sorc

onyx river
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SC = starcaller?\

cerulean plinth
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They don't like to make balance patches mid season

onyx river
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i mean acid flask rogue is at 2k corruption already

cerulean plinth
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They only made an exception during the first season because profane was straight up not working as intended and broken

gentle mango
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acid flask huh, that was fun to use levelling

onyx river
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I feel he should be taking more dmg than he is in the video tho

small heath
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Hello,
Is fire disintegrate build viable and what synergies are good with other skills?

cerulean plinth
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It's doable but it's not great

rapid hinge
onyx river
small heath
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So what about viable disintegrate builds?

rapid hinge
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but yeah he shows his name on cycle ladder at the end

onyx river
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how do you tank any boss attack at 2k corruption with 2k ward

rapid hinge
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he doesnt tank anything

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use silver shroud from smokebomb to dodge the 1 shot

onyx river
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ah

rocky anvil
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TheCurse mentioned something like this as well where Corruption 500-800 was the most successful for him during his LP3 ladle hunt and the higher he pushed beyond that the worse the LP's got and after doing hundreds of farms at corruption 1300 he said he got LP1 at most.

onyx river
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if true, speed farming meta will be boring af

rapid hinge
rocky anvil
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And a shade at corruption 2000 dropping a whopping 1 unique at LP0 is fine.

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and 0 LP heart

gentle mango
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0LP>1LP for nemesis gamba though

coral apex
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If I have black hole summons meteor, does preparation/never late affect the meteors it summons, if I trigger it on the black hole?

sour thicket
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First 3lp item lol

unborn jolt
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does the archmage passive work for skills procced via other skills? Like meteor that gets triggered with black hole?

harsh abyss
rapid hinge
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@proven haven can proced FC's from mana strike trigger spark charge from 40 mana node?

odd fjord
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does critical strike also apply to spells, or only spell critical strike?

sleek meteor
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is the reverse glacier any good?

raw escarp
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Guys does this scale with mad alchemist ladle passive?

sleek meteor
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alchemists ladle or mad alchemists ladle

finite cobalt
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is unstable core annoying to drop outside the "chest timeline" mono ? I've done the harbinger here and I kinda want to move on

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but it's a key unique to sorc so ...

scenic sail
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I don't even use unstable core. You can use an arcane regalia with very similar results, but I don't even do that, I use titan heart for the damage reduction

finite cobalt
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well I haven't reached 1K mana yet so I'm trying my best to get some more 😄

onyx river
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And spend money on idols

finite cobalt
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I'm not playing merchant's guild

finite trellis
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@proven haven your build is great, thank you. You have saved me from the misery of glacier.

Have you messed with static shell at all? I found 3LP one and curious if I should mess around with it for your build. Or, if tested already and not worth

waxen kelp
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seems something makes -mana cost (only have it on wand) to double dip the cost reduction. Seems to be with on through the winter and/or the cost increase nodes. Is this a known thing?

raw escarp
rapid hinge
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kek for 250k
never clicked that fast in my life

next swallow
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does anyone have any idea on value for this? theres nothing with those 3 mods at rank 6 on the bazaar at all lol

sleek meteor
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ignite is a negative ailment

serene trellis
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Orobys is a direct counter to glacier pls nerf. He keeps teleporting behind me right after I blow my entire mana load lmao

thorny shell
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It's almost a collector's item since sealed t6 and t7 only come from Nemesis

thorny shell
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If you want to frontload your damage

serene trellis
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Oh thats interesting, I think I normally like the way it goes, I was jmostly just kiddin but he does it EVERYTIME

white dune
thorny shell
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I only do middle explosions on mine

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Don't every glacier build go down to the crit tho?

white dune
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Yeah but you need to get stun chance to 3

thorny shell
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Wasn't it 2 for crit too?

white dune
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just one

thorny shell
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Ah fair enough then, but honestly, stun is not wasted, pretty good defensive mechanic too

white dune
thorny shell
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Curse is specced into the reverse order at least

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I'm not myself but am playing glacier on a more temporary basis

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Need a belt for my meteor

white dune
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tbh my main dps skill is static orb somehow lol

white dune
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I decided to run a couple maps with it and boy, do you run out of mana in half a second on a big pack

thorny shell
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Harbinger? I want a Strand of Souls

white dune
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Oh, you're going selfcast?

thorny shell
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Yep

white dune
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Ah, then it should be fine

thorny shell
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I played proc meteor last season

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With mana strike and dragoraths

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I might do it again maybe

white dune
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I skipped past year of patches waiting for the first league so it's all quite new :>

thorny shell
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Not dragoraths but proc meteor I mean

white dune
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The cast on crit belt seems quite fun, if one can figure out what to do about the manacost lol

thorny shell
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You get 3k mana and use focus every now and then

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No way around it really

white dune
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Maybe I should've just specced out of spark charge actually

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Cz the meteors just drained 1.5k mana in under a second

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I'm not sure if getting to 3k would've helped at all lmao

thorny shell
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Not by much but it's almost twice the burst

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You can proc so often this game currently because we don't have similar CoC technology as PoE I believe

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Cooldown on the procs, lowered by CDR with server tick breakpoints mostly

white dune
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Oh it's very similar

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To the old server melting CoC that is, when it had no cooldown at all

thorny shell
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In PoE or LE?

white dune
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PoE

thorny shell
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Oh yeah I know, but those limitations aren't in LE

white dune
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LE has no CoC cooldown though?

thorny shell
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Which is what I just said

white dune
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What I meant is that on release PoE didn't have it either

thorny shell
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I know, I was there before the release

white dune
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Fun times

thorny shell
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I played when vaal oversoul was final boss in act 2

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That oneshot you with frost wall

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But I wasn't comparing PoE then to LE now, just meant current day

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You can empty your orb in a second if you get a fast hitting skill and good crit chance, no matter how much mana you stack

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Can do that in PoE too, don't get me wrong but rarely you see those builds that don't ramp their mana cost through Indigon or something

raw escarp
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Btw can someone explain to me why Prismatic Gaze is better than this helmet?
I mean apparently its suposed to be better with the base crit but tooltip says more dmg with this exalted one on Frost Claw...

thorny shell
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What build are you?

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Just main skill frostclaw or are you proccing something with it?

sleek meteor
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i wonder if it would be possible to use a skill that costs less than 40 mana that triggers a skill that costs more than 40

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or the other way round

sleek meteor
thorny shell
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It does some averaging with crit and crit multi

raw escarp
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I am frostclaw into storm spark or what is it called

thorny shell
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Spark charge?

raw escarp
sleek meteor
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whats better for frost claw, sorceror or runemaster?

thorny shell
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Not sure how that exalted helm is better than 4% base crit alone

raw escarp
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yeah I was thinking the same but the tooltip

thorny shell
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Depends how you want to use frostclaw

raw escarp
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but thats probably because i do dmg with the charge not witht the claw right

thorny shell
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Yes

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Exactly, you can ignore frostclaw tooltip entirely

raw escarp
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is there a reason why people want to go like more than 500 mana or so

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I know there is a bonus from 1000 mana but thats like +5 spell damage only no ?

thorny shell
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Mana gives you ward and crit

onyx river
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and more mana back

thorny shell
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Not sure about your build tho

raw escarp
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I would like to show you my character so you could see if there is something I can directly improve but I dont know how to do it

thorny shell
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lastepochtools can import your character

raw escarp
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I think im doing alright but I dont really understand how to scale this in a proper way

thorny shell
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What are you struggling with

finite trellis
thorny shell
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Wait whose build is that even

raw escarp
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I am not struggling at all at the moment I am still doing the monoliths to get to endgame

thorny shell
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Not sure you need to fix anything then

raw escarp
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but I was wondering how to scale this, it´s a frost claw spark charge

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for some reason the build doesnt do crit multi in the passive tree
and it feels like 50 % crit multi is a lot so I wonder why

proven haven
thorny shell
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Might've been D4 actually, heartseeker victimize build, nevermind

raw escarp
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oh so why do I need to get crit chance?yeah I dont ujnderstand.. maybe his version is bad? xD

thorny shell
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I'm pretty sure spark charge can crit

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But your build doesn't seem meta, I think a lot more people use the new wand

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Triboelectra or whatever it was called

raw escarp
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what is that 😮

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I didnt find another build for spark charge and it looked cool

sleek meteor
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any idea if tundra nova has a cooldown?

thorny shell
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Can't you hover it right there?

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Should say on lastepochtools

sleek meteor
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it doesnt seem to

thorny shell
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Under related abilities?

sleek meteor
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no cooldown listed

thorny shell
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Cooldown: 0 seconds

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Second stat

muted dust
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man disintegrate would be the coolest spell there is if the hitboxes wherent so janky

sleek meteor
muted dust
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yeee its sooo cool. The level 3 dual ray disintegrate makes you just shred through anything

sleek meteor
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or a unique that makes it bounce

muted dust
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cooking honestly

cerulean plinth
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despair. nemesis not being nice today

surreal dawn
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Guys, if I cast Black Hole, and then Disintegrate with "increase damage while channeling" items, will the black hole's damage be increased? The number on the skill display increases, but does it only count at the time of casting?

main apex
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Hi everyone I started a new Character today can anyone help me quickly lvl up so I can get to the end game stuff please?

cerulean plinth
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That's not how this works

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Just blast through the story like everyone else. You can get to monos in a few hours

main apex
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I thought a person can let you Tage along for the arena stuff

thorny shell
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Yes but you still gotta run story for passives and idol slots

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So it's not really helpful to powerlevel someone

main apex
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Oh

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Ok Thanks for the information

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How do you blast the story in a couple of hours?It takes me days

still matrix
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'Per uncapped cold resist' Is this per resist above 75, or under 75 specifically?

cerulean plinth
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You don't have to do all side missions. Most of them don't actually give you idol slots/passives. You can do chapters 1-7 and just do all sides until your full passives/idols and then go monos. I know Raxx has a video from S1 explaining it

still matrix
proven haven
# still matrix Thanks.

It's neither of those, it is total cold resist. Uncapped just means that the amount you have above cap still provides benefit.

still matrix
surreal dawn
proven haven
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Exactly, I wish people wouldn't confidently give info that is incorrect, it's in the game guide though anyway;

thorny shell
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I knew it wasn't under 75, wasn't confident enough to add that the 75 is also counted

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The phrasing never made full sense to me at face value

proven haven
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it is weird phrasing, yea

thorny shell
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Think I saw it in PoE first and I hated it then and I still hate it

unborn jolt
harsh thistle
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Can spark charges crit?

steel tangle
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@proven haven how did you find your spark charger for bossing? Doing a Dragorath Claw version, awesome clear but bossing feels a bit slow/ rippy

steel tangle
harsh thistle
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Thanks, but they’re also not a spell right so rly hard to raise their crit multiplier I assume?

steel tangle
harsh thistle
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Damn, thanks, that changes things

steel tangle
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That also means stuff like flat spell damage on your weapon is added to charges

harsh thistle
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Right, they can scale off of basically everything

proven haven
steel tangle
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Yeah the one shot builds make nice clips, but seem janky for mapping outside of bosses.

Have seen mana strike spark chargers stacking damage to mana face tanking all the boss slams too, but damage and clear is kinda meh.

proper hawk
south yoke
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guys whats better? i only see 2 builds being popular, mana stacking with meteor and static orb and full glacier, whats better? D: i struggle with mana

steel tangle
finite trellis
cerulean plinth
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why am I not getting the void res blessing from empowered monos? Done like 6 boss kills and still no blessing

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am I just giga unlucky

heady tartan
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Asking the dumb question here. Are you in the right mono to find void res? (Black sun) @cerulean plinth

cerulean plinth
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ofc

heady tartan
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Then ye. Just unlucky

sand pawn
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good for shatter?

acoustic elbow
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Hey all, Im really struggling for some reason with my blizz/metor sorc. I've just reach abaroth and getting absolutely melted.
Also I've noticed now i swapped to meteor, i feel my defences have drop in 250-300 corruption

Any chance someone could have a squizz at my build and see what I need to change? Would really appreciate it!
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqG0Xb0o

silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Mage (22) / Sorcerer (74) / Runemaster (12)

General:

▸ Health: 1,040, Regen: 35/s
▸ Mana: 1,414, Regen: 19/s
▸ Ward Retention: 196%, Regen: 151/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 0 Dex / 46 Int / 0 Att / 0 Vit
▸ Resistances: 107% / 111% / 84% / 95% / 93% / 95% / 97%
▸ EHP: 1,312 / 1,312 / 1,312 / 1,436 / 1,312 / 1,312 / 1,312

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 208
▸ Armor Mitigation: 24% (975)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 38%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

Focus (20)
Static Orb (22)
Teleport (20)
Glacier (20)
Meteor (21)

fading snow
remote solar
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does scatter blast smaller orbs only add more coverage? or does it increase single target damage in some way

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never played it before and notice people tend to take those nodes, but then then also don't use any idols that give + tendrils as prefix? just confused on the mechanics

long cipher
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Hello guys how can i farm items

proper hawk
cerulean plinth
harsh thistle
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I don't really get why mad alchemist ladle is recommended for FC spark charge instead of either wrongwarp (massive spell dmg boost and free movespeed) or the unique dagger. I know the dagger is also recommended for a more mana hungry build and compensates the low spell dmg with lightning strike procs, I just don't get why wrongwarp is never used for the build?

south yoke
robust junco
long cipher
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And i need solo mage build 😅

finite trellis
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the big mana builds are quite strong, but if u dont have everyhting...its gonna be rougher than it needs to be

long cipher
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i am playing raiden mage build but i cant find purpel items

proper hawk
harsh thistle
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I see thanks

harsh thistle
woven yarrow
steel tangle
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Wasn't meant as a jab, still impressive to tank all that stuff.

If I can get a decent copy of the helm, I might try to fit it into Frost claw for a bit more tank / dot mitigation. DoTs are insane in this game.

past obsidian
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Is the glacier sorcerer guide on maxroll good? is it mana stack?

dark jay
# acoustic elbow Hey all, Im really struggling for some reason with my blizz/metor sorc. I've jus...

your catalyst MUST be Crystal Skull, with T6/7 mana
slap on a Phantom Grip with +2% crit for now until your other pieces are good
body armour must be either Unstable Core with good rolls, or Arcane Regalia/Valkaur Regalia with T6/7 mana/INT
remove Arcane Current in sorc tree, this melts your mana. Also remove 2 points in mage tree, look at the guide on where to put your points in
Focus tree is incorrect too, you need to route full defensives with Iron Stance, Shocking Aura and Chilling Aura
Static Orb is missing 1 point in Manacharged
Glacier should have Fading Echoes for clearing
For Amulet slot, you should aim for a T7 mana then craft armour shred on it, your current amulet is not better than an exalted piece

dark jay
rocky anvil
woven yarrow
past obsidian
dark jay
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glacier is a good leveling skill, but when it comes to endgame bossing, it's time to pivot to static orb/frost claw

harsh thistle
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glacier can be good to proc meteor still, and sustaining meteor mana cost (provided you have a ton of mana)

past obsidian
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I just want to play the most FOTM glacier build

harsh thistle
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fotm?

past obsidian
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flavor of the month, as I am a meta-slave

harsh thistle
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oooh

dark jay
dark jay
past obsidian
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I dont know how the build works but amazing to see how that much mana can be dumped in just seconds

finite trellis
#

You can drop meteor from that build and be pretty fine too if you want to be tankier. Swap belt for strand of souls and just spec flame ward instead. You can just mana tunnel static orb and forget about arcane ascendence.

This way you will never die if you are worried about pushing content.

past obsidian
finite trellis
past obsidian
finite trellis
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Totally! I personally dont like meteor cuz I am a boomer and i find it distracting. Also, it doesnt do much for boss kills anyway.

Its only good for echos, so thats how I roll. try out both! xD

opaque sun
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would this work for a spellblade?

charred nymph
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Its funny how my mage looks like anything but a mage.

still matrix
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Where is the dummy you can hit for testing?

wispy rune
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west of bastion in the cold lands

rocky hornet
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Hi guys. Does anyone know if there is something like a "trade lootfilter" which highlight expensive uniques or asked meta exalted items?

sleek meteor
#

is channeled elemental nova any good?

dark jay
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not when you have to stand still

sleek meteor
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any idea what mastery is best for a frost claw build?

rocky hornet
neon lynx
#

Add the discord gg. This server is still locked down and won’t let me post links lol

solemn viper
#

Has anyone tried low life after 1.1 ward changes? Is it still good or not?

wispy rune
#

ward is still fine, ur just not getting to the absurd numbers u were prior

dark jay
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they just cap it at around 10k now

wispy rune
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which is still a lot tbh

solemn viper
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Yeah but I haven’t seen any low life builds recently so maybe they’re not that good anymore

wispy rune
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again, theyre still fine. you jus arent getting the same ward as before.

Most sorcs are going mana stacking which makes lowlife hard to go at the same time.

Spell blades are doin random stuff

and RM got hit decently hard so ive seen few been playing it

dark jay
#

enjoying the game
classes channels are chilling
look inside general
complaints as far as i can scroll
it's like clockwork

wispy rune
#

interacting with gaming communities lately has made me realise how stupid some people really are

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
weary hamlet
weary hamlet
charred nymph
weary hamlet
weary hamlet
charred nymph
#

I mean sure, but then if I'm doing that why would I need plate armour for

weary hamlet
#

more protection is always better than less protection 5head

charred nymph
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But some magic cloth would be better

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Also we need transmog, kinda sucks to have the ugly character

weary hamlet
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magic plate > magic cloth

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but sure a transmog system would be good to have, the damn gloves never match any set you are wearing

charred nymph
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I don't really even like any armors from the cash shop, except for the hood Wich I have purchased

normal valley
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just started a new mage character, any strong build suggestions?

still tulip
#

Glacier sorc is a good one, but you have to push your mana

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static orb and frost claw are also good

merry veldt
#

I've seen a few times on Maxroll, that guides combine low-life setup with the twisted heart, which makes absolutely no sense to me. Does it make any sense, and if so, can someone explain why

still matrix
#

Where do we go to change our selected blessings?

eager sparrow
wispy rune
#

there is a person right before the first bridge

wispy rune
merry veldt
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Thanks. Almost guessed it was about the pure stats itself, which still leaves me confused a bit in my case, but glad I had no oversights 🙂

bleak otter
#

Is there a fast clear build without arcane ascendance because that spell will bring me to my grave.

lyric wedge
merry veldt
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Yeah, I know that. Still it competes in my case with Soulfire, which I can easily plan with 3-4LP. I'll test both, but almost sure it'll be a Soulfire for me in the end

lyric wedge
bleak otter
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I dont like that it roots me in place

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i want to fly through monoliths not stay in 1 place

wispy rune
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im pretty sure no build locks u into arcane ascendance. its just a nice pile of stats against beefy oponents

lyric wedge
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the issue is half the spells ingame lock you half a second anyways, so if your spamming low cost skills its no different to being locked with arcane ascendence or channeling a skill, though with ascendence you cant aim at all on controller so its kinda iffy for me atm

tiny belfry
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why do you use dragoraths wrath in shatter strike?

weary hamlet
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Because you are using the maxroll build and it's not a shatter strike build, it's a spark charge build. Look at the stats on the dagger in that context.

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The damage of your shatter strike is irrelevant there

tiny belfry
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It still makes no sense since you don’t cast frost claw in the build

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Unless it’s strictly for double crit multi

weary hamlet
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that also doesn't matter, the dagger gives flat crit, crit multi, all res and some fluff

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and it's not hard to get at 2-3 LP

tiny belfry
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Jus a stat stick basically alright

dark jay
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hoooooolllyyyy i'm popping off tonight

pure grove
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Any mage build that plays in similiar way to torment lock? I mean mainy casting one skill that procs bunch of other skills?

still matrix
still matrix
pure grove
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Hmm, tbh I just remembered that we got new ice sword that could work with ice FC spellblade

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Mana strike, FC, LB, ward and enchant weapon

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With fc dagger and mana strike sword

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Not sure how viable would it be tho

rocky anvil
pure grove
rocky anvil
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so is a 3 LP ladle

pure grove
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So there's that but I never played spellblade so I'm not sure how he generates ward

rocky anvil
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You generate ward by dipping in the sorcerer tree and take the nodes that generate ward on casting 40 mana costing spells and then make FC cost 40 mana

weary hamlet
pure grove
rocky anvil
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Oh you want it to be mana strike based? but then you're limited quite badly on melee attack speed. Sorc/RM have many sources of spell cast speed and therefore directly casting spells (FC) is the better source for spark charge. Unless you do the shatter spark I guess 🤔 but IIRC that one is much more janky

pure grove
rocky anvil
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So it's a LB/FC spellblade build, of which I suppose you turn FC into lightning element to benefit from lightning dam on gear?

pure grove
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But I guess I could cut enchanted weapon + mana strike and go for nova + ice barrage

rocky anvil
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Doh stupid me... focal means forced ice LB

pure grove
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With new sword I could get cold pen and cold leech but not sure if there is good way to use leech for spellblade

rocky anvil
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Anyway since it's spellblade, and the video I linked has that totally bonkers crit interaction with int explanation, I guess if you lean heavily enough into int, it'll do quite well. You are still going to suffer having only 50% (At best) of your FC casts you'd normally have (especially assuming you'd otherwise have more spell cast speed than melee attack speed.)

If you're desperate for leech, you could instead invest in the sorcerer tree for the cold leech node that also gives cold pen.

pure grove
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Well the more I look the more sorc ver. looks better

rocky anvil
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It's up to you but yeah sorc is very juicy right now.

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could still make it SB for the int interaction craziness and dip into the sorc tree until you get the leech if you want it.

pure grove
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Changing yrun sword to heart and using 40 mana FC should be enough ward gen

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Slap frostbite shacles since I would stack cold res eather way for dagorath

rocky anvil
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So if you have 100% cold resistance, that'd be a 20% crit multiplier (For LB only) which, would turn 400% to 420%, which is only a 5% DPS increase, for LB only.

fossil solar
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Yo guys. Can anyone check the price of the Nihilis amulet with NO LP on the market ?

full bluff
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Interesting that spellblade can almost crit cap with just int investment. Freeing up a lot of affixes and points for other types of damage 🙂

pure grove
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When you mentioned easy crit scaling I checked new ice spear but yeah no int scaling

rocky anvil
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Yeah but it feels like a design error to me. The mastery is supposed to be a melee + spell hybrid. But most of the nodes support either melee OR spell, and the OP nodes are ones for spells, not melee... It is really a pity.

rocky anvil
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It is absolutely crazy good... but only for spells. And in most cases, probably still behind sorcerer because of mana issues for anything beyond FC/Nova

pure grove
gloomy topaz
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trying to look at some other classes after i finish with sorc/mage for new experience but seems like nothing even comes close for visual satisfaction wise. Like the skill effects just look bland in comparison

rocky anvil
pure grove
rocky anvil
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Yeah... looks like I'm a dumbass for looking through the vid too fast. 🙃

unique pendant
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I'm looking for the best mage build with a low(ish) button press/movement requirement for play with a controller. Any suggestions?

wispy mango
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@unique pendant I've just started a spellblade myself. Check out nalias spark charge spellblade build it.might fit what you are looking for

unique pendant
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Thanks!

cerulean plinth
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How do fireball users generate ward? My first thought was ward on hit/spell cast since we have high cast speed. But it's barely any ward generated atm

young prawn
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whoops, accidentally enabled harbs on my lagon fight. lost all of my prophecy rewards lol

cerulean plinth
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Also not really an option for me to stack mana since fireball is basically free

wispy rune
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that is on hit but handles ur mana at same time

cerulean plinth
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Even that buff barely generates any ward. Is there any way to juice it?

cerulean plinth
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:noted: new uniques I've never heard of?

wispy rune
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neither are new. heart of uhkeiros has been a stapel ofr ages and boneclamor saw a lot of use for 1.0 by warlocks

cerulean plinth
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Oh interesting. I'll look into it tyvm

full bluff
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I used static touch rings (ward on hit) when I played fireball, it doesn't make it great, but it starts to work in defense.

pure grove
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Frostbite shackles also if you stack cold res and need ward retention

cerulean plinth
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If I had to pay repair bills I'd probably be broke based on how often I die atm.

worn valley
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For plasma orb runemaster do I just cast Runebolt/static orb/runebolt for F/L/F then runic invocation and thats it?

rapid hinge
pure grove
rapid hinge
cerulean plinth
still matrix
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In passive tree, at the bottom left where it says "mastery skill", what does this mean?

worn valley
rapid hinge
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i dont remember exactly. runebolt's default is F/L/C so you'd need to take the node that turn the 3rd bolt from C to F

pure grove
cerulean plinth
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Gg

wispy rune
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anyone using arcanse ascendance? whats ur skill tree look like

worn valley
cerulean plinth
wispy rune
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it is meteor yes

rapid hinge
worn valley
rapid hinge
worn valley
weary hamlet
rocky anvil
weary hamlet
weary hamlet
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So it's not as if youtubers have very much incentive to cover it or anything

rocky anvil
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yeah, I just feel like it deserve a lot more unique support though, and the melee skills just always have nodes that have spell components to them that makes you want to play a sorc instead anyway 😛

weary hamlet
rocky anvil
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"Oh flame reave can cast fireball, cool... wait a minute, there's no way to scale fireball off of melee damage..."

weary hamlet
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also between some of the sorc passives and new implicits on various pieces, you can have a lot of stable ward via higher ward threshold, and if you are using twisted heart you won't have any problems replenishing it in or out of combat

cerulean plinth
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That is the issue atm. No heart

weary hamlet
weary hamlet
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even on cof with the new 250% boss loot bonus it's fairly easy to acquire

cerulean plinth
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I don't have my cof high enough for that yet. I think I'm only r7 or 8. Not home to check atm

rocky anvil
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It would be better if these spells can trigger melee effects again or something. "Flamereave can cast fireball" "Fireballs hit from flamereave can cast flamereave again. Flamereaves cast from fireball cannot cast fireball"

Edit: and put some huge penalty such as "Flamereave has -50% radius"

cerulean plinth
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Will definitely farm one out tonight

rocky anvil
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At least make it super interesting that way

cerulean plinth
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Will probably have to drop some of my damage passives for the ward retention ones in the mage tree

weary hamlet
# rocky anvil It would be better if these spells can trigger melee effects again or something....

tbh with the current state of the overall game mechanics, combining spells with melee damage is a fairly dubious prospect in general, even when using a staff. So the best solution would be to add honest melee conversions to a few spells to improve SB build variety. Some spells seem to be much easier to convert conceptually.

LB could be a spammable melee strike that chains, or deals linear damage with that node.

VO could be a channeled melee spin to win type skill that deals damage in small area and throws out shrapnel in a large area.

IB could be a short duration channeled directional melee skill with a built-in directional shield, similarly to guardian sword 3 in GW2. Give it a cooldown and keep the lingering more cold damage effect from the extant shield nodes in its tree.

Ele nova and flame rush also seem to readily lend themselves to melee conversions.

cerulean plinth
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What kind of ratio are you looking for ward retention and decay threshold? My retention atm is 276% and my threshold is only 45 lmao

weary hamlet
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you basically pick up threshold where it's not too high of an opportunity cost, like in the passive nodes

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otherwise don't go out of your way to stack it

cerulean plinth
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I see ty

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My ehp is very bad atm. Basically right at 2k

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Probably explains why I keep getting 1 shot

weary hamlet
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What level are you and what content are you doing? If you don't have the heart you can probably respec some passives into defense (which you should be doing at any rate) and perhaps look for health on some slots. You'll need it for twisted heart anyways

cerulean plinth
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I can send you a planner of my current build atm. I'm really just trying to get my empowered blessings farmed out currently. I already see a few glaring issues just looking at the planner

weary hamlet
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sure just send the planner, I highly doubt that you have the defenses in passives etc sorted since that alone should give you above 2k ehp

wispy rune
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I need to revisit my paasice tree 🤔 cant tell if its optimized or not

cerulean plinth
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I swapped out my gloves last night not realizing I was using it to cap frost res. So I'm at like 40% in the planner rn

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Harbingers of Ruin / 1.1.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (52) / Spellblade (15) / Runemaster (19)

General:

▸ Health: 1,535, Regen: 19/s
▸ Mana: 251, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 261%, Regen: 85/s
▸ Attributes: 2 Str / 2 Dex / 49 Int / 2 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 191% / 51% / 136% / 77% / 70% / 80% / 92%
▸ EHP: 1,914 / 1,538 / 1,914 / 2,003 / 1,815 / 1,914 / 1,914

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 526
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (23)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 13% (352)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 31%

Damage Types:

Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Enchant Weapon (Passive)

Used skills:

Fireball (20)
Enchant Weapon (20)
Flame Ward (20)
Flame Rush (20)
Meteor (20)

Used unique items:
cerulean plinth
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Getting my idols and blessings situated will probably help too

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I saw the maxroll guide for crit fireball (not ignite) using double altaria rings which is probably good

rocky anvil
# cerulean plinth Getting my idols and blessings situated will probably help too

Yeah, if you're suffering from getting one shot, just get the two armor blessings (It's so easy to respec blessings now, so solving "immediate" issues isn't going to be a PITA later on, thank you 1.1) and focus on taking less crit damage will be giant boosts.

You also have a conflict here with your T6 HP affix on your chest piece which won't do anything for you right now as you're ward focused right? Just swapping that out for a rare innate level 70-80 chest piece with base armor of 200-300 is literally almost doubling your total armor 😛

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Don't forget that in LE, armor helps against non-physical damage too (at 70% effectiveness)

vale tartan
cerulean plinth
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It does. Double altaria was just in the end game version of the build

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Also ty tsp 🙂 good advice

vale tartan
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then its not a crap guide GrolePortal2 groleshades

cerulean plinth
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I'm pretty sure I have one in the bank somewhere

rocky anvil
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If you get one shot very often then dealing with that first is most important I think. Will be hard to get the gear you really want otherwise, so yeah.

cerulean plinth
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That's fair

weary hamlet
rocky anvil
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Just stay around 100 corruption or whatever high you can push without getting oneshot with a good clear speed.

vale tartan
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Also a thing
This is what sunwreath actually does for you rn . Compare to the Invoker Ring

cerulean plinth
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Lmao yeeeah I was looking at that too

weary hamlet
cerulean plinth
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Noted. I wasn't sure if arcane flames was worth it considering I'm trying to do an ignite build. But you're right prioritizing the ward is def more important

weary hamlet
vale tartan
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Meanwhile everything on that would help you

cerulean plinth
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I do have 1 of those in the bank atm

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Not sure why in not using it tbh

weary hamlet
cerulean plinth
# weary hamlet

That was from me trying to cook last night and I was in fact not cooking

weary hamlet
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basically you have some really low impact nodes allocated, and not enough of the defensive nodes. Thankfully it's easy to fix

cerulean plinth
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Isn't arcane warden only for melee attacks though?

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Ig the 5 point bonus makes it worth

weary hamlet
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it's still int per point which is generally valuable, and a free 100 ward threshold

cerulean plinth
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Makes sense

weary hamlet
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you are also going to combine it with Arcane Insight for more of the same effect

wispy rune
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is there a chestplate with mana spent gained as ward as an implicit?

weary hamlet
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Also make sure that you have specced (correctly) and are using (correctly) flame ward, it's the crux of mage survival

past obsidian
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Is glacier without meteor or else essentially a melee build? Gotta get into melee range pretty much and cast glacier which is a skill shot

wispy rune
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sweet. ty

weary hamlet
vale tartan
weary hamlet
# weary hamlet

also @cerulean plinth that's an example of a low opportunity cost ward threshold item since you presumably already want it for mana spent to ward

past obsidian
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So, with the advent of hard bosses, is it worth like in POE we make one toon for mapping/echo and another toon dedicated for bossing?

cerulean plinth
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Makes sense

weary hamlet
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cause while that can oneshot aberoth it will still die to random archers in 300 corruption

cerulean plinth
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Is it still worth going 5 points in unsealed mana in the runemaster tree for the 15% cast speed?

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I wouldn't really be getting the 5 point bonus ig

weary hamlet
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possibly, depends on how much cast speed you have from other sources

cerulean plinth
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Thank you. I've added all of these changes to a planner and will put it all into action when I get home tonight

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The advice is greatly appreciated 🙂

wispy rune
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now hm to have ashunava look at my passive trees 🤔

cerulean plinth
remote solar
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at least in the setting of 2k mana stackers... I guess those smaller orbs are different from the "tendrils" described on grand idols that go up to +4?

weary hamlet
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cause it also adds single target damage from the small orbs, and if you are running something that procs say static charges, that's 5x more hits per cast for that

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tendrils are another subskill that shoots out from the explosion at more distant targets, and most importantly, does not shotgun

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while the small orbs do

remote solar
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ok so small orbs can shotgun gotcha

cerulean plinth
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Hmm is the ward gained on potion use + ward decay blessing more worth than the ward per second one?

long cipher
cerulean plinth
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It's an item base

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With all of those changes I'm up to 392% retention and 694 ward threshold. I should be able to cap resistances with idols

mint relic
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how can u reach 100% crit on sorc? I have like 67% mountain + offhand + passives

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what else is needed

dark jay
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stack INT too

worldly ferry
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man i was using frostclaw lightning build w/ meteor and instead of going the normal route of ladle with spark in offhand i am using the lightning set peices for 2h staff and crown, which gives +1 lightning damage for each int (like 100+ flat damage) plus changes meteor to lightning. my damage shot through they roof. lose a tiny bit of ward but things die so fast now its way better

wispy rune
wispy rune
velvet crag
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I Got pretty Lucky today not the best rolls but still

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Shred armour makes alot of difference

cerulean plinth
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That's pretty nice

dark jay
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day 3 of not getting ANY t7 mana relics

wispy rune
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i still cant find any t7 int rings 🥲

dark jay
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does it matter for t7 finding if i trigger prophecy in dungeons instead of high corruption monos?

cerulean plinth
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Damn didn't realize le tools has a full blown dps breakdown. Huge

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Calculating specific skills

worldly ferry
# wispy rune the set is very fun to use but filling defensives is kinda rough and you have a ...

Definitely lose some ward, i went from 8k down to like 6k but its fun lol. only at 250 corruption at the moment so defenses arent too crazy important yet. once i find a mad alchameist ladle i can put my 2 lp offhand back on. my damage sucked without this though, doing like 2k per hit and my meteor was like 5k. now its like 5k and 20k so its worth the trade off. if things die fast enough i dont have to worry about getting hit too much haha

cerulean plinth
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That was my strat too. Until I started getting 1 shot

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Then I realized I should probably fix my defensiveness lol

wispy rune
worldly ferry
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once i hit that wall ill worry about it 🙂 but glass cannon builds are a blast, literally. but yea some mobs are annoying with the 1 shots. normally them mobs that throw the flaming spears ont he ground that expode. actually one benefit of meteor being lightning now is i can actually see telegraphed effects on the ground. i couldnt see crap before

wispy rune
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man i still cant see the ground haha

cerulean plinth
tidal timber
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Hi all, I was following a build from someone called Allie and she had said it can easily do 700-800 corruption but I’m getting crushed in 150 corruption and can’t do bosses that easy. It’s mana stacking self cast meteor. Is there another mage build I can maybe try? I don’t want to level another class. Also I’m COF so not exactly easy to swap into an entire new set of gear

wispy rune
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lightning meteor slaps nemesis. is funny.

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if ur getting crushed at 150 its ur gear.

especially if u copied a build

cerulean plinth
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Check your passives too and make sure they're not all in dps like me :^)

worldly ferry
wispy rune
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best thing about lightning meteor. u just stack int and defence stuff. its so simple. crit is optional

cerulean plinth
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Big numbers won't do you very good if you're dead on the floor

worldly ferry
wispy rune
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i dont like that node personally. but yea int stacking is so easy

cerulean plinth
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Has anyone used wrongwarp and if so how is it? I like flame rush over teleport so I don't think I'll use it

dark jay
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it's crazy good, game changing

worldly ferry
cerulean plinth
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I see

dark jay
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you get 1s of invuln after using warp so no worry about dying to random aoes, and it adds so much speed + damage

cerulean plinth
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My build thrives on cast speed which it also gives an insane amount of

wispy rune
cerulean plinth
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I have a few things to grind for ig

weary hamlet
cerulean plinth
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Interesting. Seems incredibly useful. Glad it has fireball implemented 😄

dark jay
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what should i slam on 1LP transient rest? thinking about cdr or crit reduction

wispy rune
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int

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become an int enjoyer

harsh abyss
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Int enjoying is the way

dark jay
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🤔 are you trying to brick me

wispy rune
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o wait i got the boots mixed up with blood ones.

ignore me

cerulean plinth
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Lmao

wispy rune
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blood of the exile boots with more int tho. i love them

dark jay
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cdr would feel so nice i think

cerulean plinth
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The altaria ring has a passive of 10% less dmg if you have 180 total attributes. Does that stack to 20% if you have a 2nd ring?

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Also 180 att seems incredibly high

wispy rune
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its not too incredibly hard if u try for it

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blood of exile boots alone is like 30?

true kayak
wispy rune
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there is a sealing rune

cerulean plinth
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There's a glyph you can use to seal things. It has a higher chance if the tier is low. Basically impossible to seal a t4, almost guaranteed to seal a t1

wispy rune
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when upgrading affix, chnce to seal. chance becomes lower at higher tiers

frank widget
true kayak
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got it! ty, missed that

cerulean plinth
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Is it actually guaranteed? Sick

cerulean plinth
true kayak
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just sealed a T4

cerulean plinth
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I think highest I've successfully done is a 2 lol

wispy rune
cerulean plinth
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Interesting

wispy rune
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found another on my gear lmao.

cerulean plinth
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I need to farm out more of those glyphs

wispy rune
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glyph of despair are amazing

frank widget
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i believe these are chances

wispy rune
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even if its just for removing a mediocre t1 so u can add a good stat and craft to t5

frank widget
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Rarity: Magic Item w/ 1 Affix
Tier: 1 chance: 0.525
Tier: 2 chance: 0.345
Tier: 3 chance: 0.1725
Tier: 4 chance: 0.075

Rarity: Magic Item w/ 2 Affixes
Tier: 1 chance: 0.63
Tier: 2 chance: 0.414
Tier: 3 chance: 0.207
Tier: 4 chance: 0.09

Rarity: Rare Item w/ 3 Affixes
Tier: 1 chance: 0.735
Tier: 2 chance: 0.483
Tier: 3 chance: 0.2415
Tier: 4 chance: 0.105

Rarity: Rare Item w/ 4 Affixes ---- OR Exalted item w/ 2 Affixes
Tier: 1 chance: 0.84
Tier: 2 chance: 0.552
Tier: 3 chance: 0.276
Tier: 4 chance: 0.12

Rarity: Exalted Item w/ 3 Affixes
Tier: 1 chance: 0.945
Tier: 2 chance: 0.6210001
Tier: 3 chance: 0.3105
Tier: 4 chance: 0.135

Rarity: Exalted Item w/ 4 Affixes
Tier: 1 chance: 1.05
Tier: 2 chance: 0.69
Tier: 3 chance: 0.345
Tier: 4 chance: 0.15

cerulean plinth
wispy rune
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.15, i was kinda close.

cerulean plinth
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Cool I'll have to save that. Ty

wispy rune
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why has this been sitting in my bank 🤔

cerulean plinth
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Yo that's sick

wispy rune
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thinkin i rune of cration it instead of the t5 pois res 🤔

cerulean plinth
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Not a bad idea

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Or risk the t5 and then creation

wispy rune
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decisions decisions

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i dont need the pois res tho 🤔 and thats a good keep to smash for lego

cerulean plinth
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True true. Creation it is then

wispy rune
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yea i creatoned. didnt wanan risk haha

dark jay
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i have decided to slam 4 x transient rest with INT, will report back in a bit

cerulean plinth
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Glgl

dark jay
wispy rune
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man please send some in my way. i have 2x julra stardials sitting here wiating for int rings

cerulean plinth
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Is int stacking just the thing to do on most mage builds or is it build specific? The ward you get from int alone is kinda sick

wispy rune
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build specific, but u cant go wrong with some form of int

cerulean plinth
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That's fair

wispy rune
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int is also 4% increased skill dmg per point, along with stuff like crit from trees in sorc

cerulean plinth
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True there are a lot of passives that work based on how much int you have

wispy rune
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the reason i was talking abtu int stacking prior was coz of this set effecrt

cerulean plinth
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Holy

wispy rune
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along with the stats on theitems giving shock chance and shock duration based on int.

cerulean plinth
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Just realized I've spent the past 2 hours tweaking my planner and looking at items instead of working. Oops

wispy rune
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☠️ it do be like that. i am currently starig at mine and wondering if i can get more defensive stuff

cerulean plinth
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I'm the same way. I just want to go home rn and put the changes into action

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I wanna see how crazy the difference is

wispy rune
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i cant tell if i want the sun and storms passive 🤔

cerulean plinth
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I'm the same way about cinder song vs wrongwarp. Warp is probably just straight up better

wispy rune
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my meteor is below 100k dps now with that chestplate change, smh

cerulean plinth
#

Slacking

harsh abyss
cerulean plinth
harsh abyss
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CoF makes farming up sets super easy now. Getting the Vilatria helmet was kind of a pain before

cerulean plinth
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Dude it's actually so sick. I love that change

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And if you don't want the set you can vendor it for a free 7.5k. Ez game

wispy rune
# harsh abyss Vilatria set enjoyers unite

yea its honestly so fun ngl. makes me really hyped for when they brign sets on par with legos

if ur running the set,could i see ur build? itnerested to how ru setup is

dark jay
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failed venture...

harsh abyss
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It's nothing special really. Just int stack + mana stack, and cast meteors on things. Use Vilatria's set + Harbinger, profit

wispy rune
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hmm im not using harbingers anymore 🤔 wonder if i should

cerulean plinth
dire zealot
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How's flame reave spellblade nowadays?

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And is shatter strike just better?

dark jay
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WHY WHY WHY I HAD T7 MANA 😭😭😭😭

cerulean plinth
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Man this game doesn't like you huh

wispy rune
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atleast crit multi isnt bad

cerulean plinth
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How hard is farming out a 2lp ww?

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It will be on my list of things to do for sure

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I've got the perfect wand to slam into it too

dark jay
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i think it's kinda rare, i spent 150k favor and only got 2

wispy rune
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is this 1s per point? or 1 what?

cerulean plinth
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Dang

dark jay
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i got one more but no t7 mana wand

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cof chads stay winning (i have lost all my gambas tonight)

cerulean plinth
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Truly unfortunate

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I have a bunch of uniques I should target farm and I'm not sure which to prio. The only one I have ready to slam is a wand tho

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Only thing that'd make it better to slam is maybe swapping in cast speed

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210% fire damage tho

dark jay
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belt is easier to farm i think, just need crit reduction on it

cerulean plinth
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Which belt is that? Strands of souls?

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Prob gonna be the belt I'm going with

wispy rune
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strands of souls is bae

cerulean plinth
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Seems pretty sick to me

wispy rune
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just noticed ive had my wrong one equipped this whole time

cerulean plinth
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Infinitely better than the crappy exalted I'm using rn

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Mine has t7 end threshold lmao

wispy rune
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beats my pois damage 😂

nah but mana regen aint bad with focus

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i actually despise not having a cleanse tho

cerulean plinth
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I don't need focus with my build thankfully. Just need mana reduction on fireball

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True having a cleanse would be nice

wispy rune
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i honestly can go most monos with 1 mana bar, which is wild. onyl bosses and sometimes gates i require focus

cerulean plinth
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Wish there was a way to make flame ward cleanse

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Can you send me a pic of your flame ward tree? Curious to see what yours looks like

wispy rune
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u can kinda get it to

spec frost wall and make frost wall cleanse + proc flame ward