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vernal finch
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there alot of people talking on general discord

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and in game

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people doing arbor also got no unique drops

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since the last patch

strange flicker
vernal finch
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i just test it 3 lich boss, 0 unique drop 3 times in a row

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it wass suppose to be 100% chance to get either amulet or the boots

strange flicker
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LOL

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probably unintentionally messed something up

vernal finch
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yea

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there bug also about affix not showing up

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if u compare to other gear stats

full bluff
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some bug fixes and some new bugs and kept most of the old bugs πŸ™‚

digital musk
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Are you tping before accepting blessing

vernal finch
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no

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i dont ever do that, no point

opal mountain
vernal finch
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idk about arbor never tested my self since last patch, but alot of people complain on world chat like since last patch

full bluff
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I don't get it, how can lightning blast cast from frost claw / drag claw be so good, and lightning blast cast from static so bad.

strange flicker
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is it using the tree?

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some skills dont use the skill tree when it gets casted

full bluff
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not using the tree it seems

strange flicker
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also ur casting like 1 lightning blast

full bluff
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or just casts 1

strange flicker
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every second w static

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LOL

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ya

full bluff
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1 single chain..

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and the range is up close

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while frost claw proc LB off screens with full tree

unborn hamlet
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Glad I'm not playing no more

full bluff
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3x second πŸ˜›

unborn hamlet
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Every patch is just more and more bugs and the performance is worse and worse

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πŸ˜‚

full bluff
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I am down to use 3 skills on sorcerer now, fire ball, teleport and flame ward

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rest just seems like a waste of cast time, rather just cast fire balls πŸ™‚

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lets see if I can fit AA back in

strange flicker
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LOL

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ya am just gonna test out my sorc build

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then prob chill till cycle 2

full bluff
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AA casts LB with full tree

strange flicker
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i wouldnt bother w that path

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try acuity and get it fully specced

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should be able to maintain 100% uptime of aa

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w/o the drain

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i think

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that+ more damage on slow and all the cast speed stuff/mana reduction/mana on kill

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LOL

full bluff
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I have some mana sustain issues with AA

median hamlet
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i know this sounds stupid

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but sorcerer should have what warlock has

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in regards to overload...

spare glen
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what sorcerer really needs is devs attention, class is same since 0.7

median hamlet
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thats what i am sayin

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How does warlock have more fire support

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than the actual class that uses meteor lmao

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the runemaster class passives are just straight up better...

brave birch
full bluff
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One burst of fire ball at 4 mana cost, does more aoe damage than meteor at 197 mana

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I really enjoy sorcerer and am trying to build one that has 2 damage skills, one spamming fire ball and one big bang nuke. So far I have not been sucessful. My low cost spam skill always outperforms my big nuke

median hamlet
median hamlet
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but idk man I feel like warlock just does so much more dmg

full bluff
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Use frost claw and everything is fine πŸ™‚

brave birch
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meteor dps tooltip does not assume all 6 metoers hit same target

full bluff
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I think the solution to fix sorcerer is nerf frost claw, fire ball, elemental nova and lightning blast, so they do 1/10th of the damage. That way the other skills will be much more attractive

brave birch
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like when poe nerfed exalts they created another card for brothers stash

safe grail
median hamlet
safe grail
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exactly.

median hamlet
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This is an ARPG, you are supposed to be batshgit op

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The reality is not that Runemaster is SUPER STRONG

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but the other two classes are weak and not interestring

obsidian reef
safe grail
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eh they are uninteresting tho

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spellblade specifically

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πŸ˜‰

median hamlet
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the game has a lot of skill modifiers

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but the majority are kinda weak]

obsidian reef
safe grail
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LMAO

median hamlet
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spellblade should be cool

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but it has like one actual ability

full bluff
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Should have been a feature so give up a spec slot and just get a flat stat boost. Having to pick the least worst skill to spec is hard than I thought. Down to snap freeze for more armor now πŸ™‚

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Some general all class passive skills you could spec

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Just need to have one node in the tree, +int

safe grail
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anyone have an idea on how invo chooses the rune for a multi-ele ability?

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i fkn cannot for the life of me remember how

autumn crypt
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When will new cycle start?

safe grail
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early juneish

autumn crypt
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oof I thought somewhere next month, guess I'll need to play again while waiting lol

safe grail
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yeah they've pretty consistently said 3-4 months, but there's a very large likelihood they are leaning towards 4

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which would put us in june

spare glen
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I have lil hopes even for 4 months, the amount of bugs they have that actually hinder or overpower skills is absurd

rustic sapphire
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is only runemaster worth playing

median hamlet
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all classes work

digital musk
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ok but only this 1 bugged build i saw in a youtube vid is viable and everything else is bad

spare glen
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depends on your definition of bad, if doing 600-1k corruption with bis gear is bad then yes

flat copper
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i am having a problem. my rune invocation only is creating one rune not the 3 it is suposed to

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can some one plzzzz help

rustic sapphire
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which build is bugged

safe grail
spare glen
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also runic invocation isnt supposed to create 3 runes? why would it?

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u create runes by casting spells not by casting invocation

safe grail
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i knew what he meant

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he just typed the wrong thing

spare glen
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well i thought so initially but the idol u talking abt i think limits only to 2 runes not 1

safe grail
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there's 3 idols

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iirc

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or 2.

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and either of them restricts the max amount of runes

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unvar's rise

spare glen
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yes it restricts to 2 runes

safe grail
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restricts it to 1

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the other 2 unique idols restrict it to 2

spare glen
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oh i never got this one

feral moss
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@fluid topaz sorry, saw you were talking about a build involving Harbinger of Stars and was wondering what you're doing to recoup mana? I have a build going but it needs more fuel for the meteors

fluid topaz
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mana strike

feral moss
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are you doing a mix of lightning and fire damage in your build,then? or did you convert meteor to lightning

median hamlet
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lightning

naive hamlet
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hmmm. feels like they fixed the bugged never late 5/5 passive. I'm definitely not 100% critting anymore with spark charges - at least, its not as consistent as before. weird.

digital musk
barren pawn
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its capable. you just need waaaaaay more min max than i already have

digital musk
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i wish i could do channeled skills but they're just so zzzz to me

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gotta go fast brain

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do people actually use static w/ shell?

hazy parrot
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why is mad alchemist's ladle so hard to see? Only going for rune prison to loot but never drops

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any tips for Mad archemist's ladle?

royal palm
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Is T7 int instead of +FC on heart ok?

strange flicker
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its better depending on type of spark charge you are

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you only use +fc to get enough mana reduction to maintain the fc spam

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but if u can already do that then its generally useless in most cases

plain flicker
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is it possible to make decent black hole based build?

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anyone tried?

unborn hamlet
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Theoretically at the sacrifice of less chance to trigger elemental nova (if you use it in the first place), you don't need +fc at all

unborn hamlet
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Wait for new cycle, and pray they look at old classes

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The spell provides nearly no utility, no buffs, and the base DMG is so dog it's funny

safe grail
solemn viper
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so what 4 affixes should i put on an amulet im slamming into a 1 lp omnis?

safe grail
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It literally doesnt matter because you clearly will only want one of them right?

solemn viper
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i mean i dont wanna waste the 1 lp omnis so like whatever is best even if its t5

safe grail
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I mean it’s either gonna hit your t6/t7 or it wont lmao. So just put whatever you think is best

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No memes either

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Not tryna be a dck but this is how i started approaching 1 LP items

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Either i get my slam or i dont

solemn viper
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i was going with crit multi, spell crit, frailty on hit and 1 resistence

safe grail
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There’s your answer then

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Gl may the odds be ever in your favor

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Imo. Omnis feels like a turbo bait item

solemn viper
safe grail
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Id rather just use a 5 stat exalt lol

solemn viper
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I generally ignore them

solemn viper
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But on an omnis with 33 crit and good res I’m not gonna complain tbh lol

stiff crown
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Just get 4LP. Ez gaem

safe grail
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Skill issue

solemn viper
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^ that

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i got a t5, was the second best option

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skill issues

grand karma
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Has anyone tried making an elemental nova centered build? Not like frost claw into elemental nova, but Primary Elemental nova?

spare phoenix
grand karma
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Yeah I've heard some people say it's rough on their systems when I run my frostclaw nova build, but I'm just bored of seeing the frostclaws... I'm gonna try the disintegrate build soon. I'd love if a unique came out that allowed runebolt to proc off elemental nova

safe grail
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Tried it. Nova sucked by itself

strange flicker
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its doable

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its prob 3rd best build or 4th alongside frostbite/cold crit

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but it'll just be worst than frostclaw nova

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cause you're just casting less novas kappa

crisp yoke
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I got stuck in chapter 3 when you need to fetch the second stone to open the bridge to next location, no quest mark. This happened after I got the stone opened the bridge and entered next location but got crashed before activating the portal. Help please

vocal cloud
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@topaz blade maybe here could help you

topaz blade
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possibly

vocal cloud
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what main skill you using?

topaz blade
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Shatterstrike // firebrand

vocal cloud
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and youre surviving with ward?

topaz blade
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yeah

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My skillset rn is

Flame ward , Enchant Weapon , Fire Brand , Focus , Shatter Strike

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i feel like my damage fell off.

vocal cloud
robust junco
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Firebrand ?

topaz blade
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Yeah

robust junco
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Why ?

topaz blade
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Main damage to bosses

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i stack it up

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with enchant weapon

vocal cloud
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well it stacks attack speed

robust junco
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I am a bit confused by the Firebrand / ShatterStrike combination

topaz blade
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each 1 stack is 20% damage buff

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and it multiplies with enchant weapon

rustic sapphire
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with mage builds do you go low life or is ward truly an extra def layer on top of health

robust junco
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So you stack Firebrands and then consume with Shatter Strike ?

robust junco
topaz blade
vocal cloud
robust junco
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Usually yes

topaz blade
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well im new to the game so i dont really know what im upgrading just a vague idea

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trying to make it work

topaz blade
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it sais it "multiplitacive with other modifiers"

robust junco
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I dont understand what get Multiplied

vocal cloud
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i thought u were using firebrand to make shatter strike hit more often

topaz blade
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Im guessing the enchant weapon 50% damage

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thats what ive been thinking

topaz blade
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i use firebrand to get more damage usually used for bosses

vocal cloud
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well it will make one attack have more damage after firebrand

topaz blade
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yeah i keep using firebrand and shatterstrike

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i stack firebrand 6 times then use shatter strike and repeat

vocal cloud
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well im also relatively new...but you are using a cold skill with a fire skill

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which means youre not stacking one element on your items

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unless you are stacking just cold damage?

topaz blade
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πŸ€”

vocal cloud
topaz blade
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i dont know πŸ˜‚

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yeah i do spam it

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but not on bosses

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i usually stack it up with firebrand

vocal cloud
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meaning it has lower damage individually, thats why firebrand usually is with flame reave, cause its a skill that already has a big damage

topaz blade
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so should i switch shatterstrike with flame reave?

vocal cloud
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obsidian reef
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flamereave spellblade not lookin too good rn

grand karma
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so are channeled attacks considered "Damage over time" for the purposes of affixes?

lyric mango
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I think every tick of damage from channeled attack is the same as damage from normal spell

grand karma
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Oh I think that's just specifically disintegrate that gets considered dot

unborn hamlet
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every dmg type has its own type of DOT

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for example cold has frostbite

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and physical has bleed

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the spell must specifically state that it can apply said DOT dmg tho

grand karma
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Well I know disintegrate has the DOT tag and also hasn't been applying any of the on hit effects with ladle

unborn hamlet
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@barren pawn i summon thee to explain

grand karma
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ironically its his build im running with atm

barren pawn
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I was summoned

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No, disintegrate cannot proc on hit effects

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ladle is not BiS

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theres a reason i run a crystal wand

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despite having a 4lp ladle

grand karma
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so my disentegrate shows that its estimating about 53k per second in damage, but im only seeing less than a thousand on the ticks...

spare glen
spare glen
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it doesnt count enemy damage reduction which is 87% as well as includes thingas like dps ailmentsand cast speed, which do not affect disintegrate in any way

grand karma
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so do the dummies in the training arena have resistances at all?

spare glen
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depends which dummy

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also enemies have 0 resists by default

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some enemies have some types of resists but main thing that enemies have iis damage reduction that depends on area lvl and caps at 100

glad marten
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DR =/= resist

spare glen
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overall forget about tooltip in this game if u dont know how dps calculation work itll only confuse u and if you know how dmg mechanics work u dont need dps tooltip at that point which makes it completely useless

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we had new players coming in for YEARS asking abt these things and i have no clue why ehg even added this thing in the game in current state, people cried that there was no dps tooltip before now people are confused cause in some cases nobody even knows how it works or what those numbers mean...even devs or veteran players themselves Facepalm

grand karma
# barren pawn I was summoned

so what is your skill rotation when running your disentegrate build? Teleport, Glyph, and Disentegrate until out of mana then focus?

glad marten
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Do it until you have to move, are out of mana, or everything is dead

grand karma
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Is it worth having flame shield on autocast?

barren pawn
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you dont even need glyph outside of bossing, or reeeeally beefy elites / mages

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if you pla yit right you rearely ever run out of mana unless bossing

glad marten
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Well, I assumed we were talking bossing. Otherwise, how do you run out mana?

unborn hamlet
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its simple

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you use big cost skills when u dont need them

median hamlet
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should i switch from frostclaw to sparkchartge?

digital musk
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...do you want to ?

lyric mango
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Why would you want to change except for experience of something else?

digital musk
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why would you want to change except for (the reason anyone changes anything)

median hamlet
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whats better for frostclaw? cold dmg over time or frostbite chanc

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frostbite FC

lyric mango
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One is frostbite and one is electric build

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Just decide whats more enjoyable for you

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binaQC has best so far build for frostbite version

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And FrozenSentinel has best electric build

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Just YouTube search for it

median hamlet
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its Joever

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time to grind two weeks again

lyric mango
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You can use 0LP items for frostbite fairly easily up until 800-1000 corruption I believe

median hamlet
median hamlet
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i still have frey to slam

lyric mango
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And dropped 3LP vial 30 minutes later

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RNG gives and takes

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Flow of life and stuff

median hamlet
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Bro I dropped two 2 lp items that are good for my build but now I cant find the exalted

pale kiln
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anyone knows if the Never Late 5/8 still persists forever? tried it out but it seems like the buff fades immediately

mystic robin
heavy panther
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are you solely using flame reave/firebrand? or are they triggering a spell somehow? cuz if not itd be really hard for me to justify using this over well-rolled crustal swords. Maybe if you wanted to lean into block as a defensive aspect? but mage doesnt really have much block support, alas.

basically I think its fine, especially pre-empowered monos, but I at least would want to transition to good exalted crystal swords eventually (or maybe a pair of bee swords if i wanted to lean hard into ward)

rustic sapphire
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hey ya'll, i been messing aroudn with a fireball build. is there anyhting that can help it feel smoother or autocast otehr than frost wall?

solemn viper
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it's decent and most importantly it isnt frost claw lol

rustic sapphire
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i been going a full fire build with fireball, ffrost(fire)wall and fulll fire runebolt. is frost claw just better to replace one of those?

solemn viper
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lightning or ice frost claw are better then fire claw but there are builds out there using fire

digital musk
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There's fireballs over 1k

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Its fine

solemn viper
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fireball and runebolt fire are a little redundant tho

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its fine but it feels off

rustic sapphire
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still fun though

solemn viper
rustic sapphire
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true true

solemn viper
rustic sapphire
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yeah theres fire stuff all over the screen. cinder song makes it extra nice

unborn hamlet
# median hamlet snowblind 2lp

In terms of frostbite build, I wouldn't consider a snowblind unless it was at minimum 3lp max roll or 4LP with decent rolls

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Unfortunately it gets outclassed too hard by 2 "normal" helmets

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Personally, Runed Visage is the top pick if you want my honest opinion, but you can also use the one that gives %max mana

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.6

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (21) / Runemaster (72)

General:

β–Έ Health: 1,218, Regen: 20/s
β–Έ Mana: 221, Regen: 10/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 570%, Regen: 43/s
β–Έ Attributes: 14 Str / 1 Dex / 65 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 100% / 199% / 77% / 79% / 81% / 118% / 58%
β–Έ EHP: 1,695 / 1,695 / 1,695 / 1,945 / 1,695 / 1,695 / 1,443

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 244
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,682)
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 31%

Damage Types:

β–Έ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

β–Έ None

Used skills:

β€’ Frost Claw (24)
β€’ Elemental Nova (21)
β€’ Flame Ward (21)
β€’ Flame Rush (21)
β€’ Runic Invocation (21)

Used unique items:
unborn hamlet
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Can check my planner to get an idea if you want

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Doing 3k 300 corruption with this

obsidian reef
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Spellblade leaderboards full of fraudulent builds omegalul

rich plinth
obsidian reef
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they specced into non-spellblade spells

rich plinth
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Classic trick :p

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Whats THE meta spellblade build right now ? BiS gear

obsidian reef
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By default I guess that makes me the rank 1 spellblade omegalul

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BiS is a whole bunch of LP4 uniques

rich plinth
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Im thinking of Bloody Nib variant but im worried about survival and ability to push corruption.

obsidian reef
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I dont like bloody nib because it makes you way too squishy

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past 300 corr you are getting one shot

rich plinth
obsidian reef
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low life shatterstrike should be BiS rn

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.6

Class:

Mage (27) / Sorcerer (8) / Spellblade (78)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,709, Regen: 20/s
β–Έ Mana: 153, Regen: 9/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 531%, Regen: 184/s
β–Έ Attributes: 18 Str / 12 Dex / 110 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 70% / 63% / 70% / 81% / 61% / 88% / 66%
β–Έ EHP: 3,051 / 2,861 / 3,051 / 3,513 / 2,810 / 3,204 / 2,926

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 542
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 2% (48)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 24% (1,045)
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 99%

Damage Types:

β–Έ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

β–Έ Enchant Weapon (Passive)

Used skills:

β€’ Mana Strike (20)
β€’ Flame Ward (21)
β€’ Shatter Strike (24)
β€’ Enchant Weapon (22)
β€’ Teleport (20)

rich plinth
obsidian reef
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the rest was bought off AH though

rich plinth
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Sweet build. Apogee is better than well rolled crystal sword ?

obsidian reef
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otherwise no

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there's around a 10% dmg difference between a min maxed crystal sword and a min maxed apogee

rich plinth
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Makes sense. Can make use of Apogees freezing talent ? Keepers gloves would spawn bees all the time, lol

obsidian reef
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I'm pretty sure bees do count as minions, but keepers glove really isn't that optimal πŸ˜…

rich plinth
vernal finch
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trying to upgrade armor blessing such pain

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45/55, fight 20 boss, armor only appear 3 times, and all of them lower lol

unborn hamlet
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Such be RNG

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I killed the frost lich like 400 times at this point

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Still only 89% sceptre drop rate

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That 1% will haunt me forever

flint vortex
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Aint there a good lightning sorcerer specc around without manaproblems? 😦

austere harbor
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playing a runemaster and i think some of my invocations sometimes cast twice, what exactly is doing that? I feel like i missed something because i have no idea how it happens lol

cedar ocean
austere harbor
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dude i completely misunderstood it

full bluff
digital musk
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or just lightning blast

warm merlin
frozen sleet
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Lightning blast uses 0 mana if you have a wand that has the - mana cost implicit

digital musk
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Yea I took a lightning blast ssf to 1k with it at 0 mana cost its perfect viable

full bluff
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I am testing out using lightning blast as single target damage with convergence and fireball/lighting as aoe and mana generator. Casting Meteor also to sustain mana

digital musk
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Just using the free chain node and spark charges w/ enigma and its fine on both aoe and ST

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Need to really pump cast speed tho. After a teleport I was at over 300 cast speed

full bluff
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This is odd, I have faster clear with lb, using convergence/single target at 800 monos, than using chains...

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what else did I change...

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My problem with LB was having to choose aoe or single target

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but it kind of works with convergence

digital musk
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The ST wasn't terrible for me tbh

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I had a 2.2s teleport w/ frenzy boots and put spark charge on nova teleport

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Quad cast with 320 cast speed

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Was not breaking any records but it was good enough

safe grail
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that gets ALL of the applications of charge/nova

full bluff
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Tested it on a boss now, was way better single target damage than fireball

safe grail
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yeah

full bluff
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so going with LB for that and fireball for clear

safe grail
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i saw this coming, just never thought to test it on Sorc

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but w/ meteor it eliminates the mana issue entirely

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but w/ you having figured out chain reaction, the AOE is covered

full bluff
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It was frost claw level of single target damage πŸ™‚

safe grail
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oooowee

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considering teh ward yo uwere generating

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you can likely drop wrongwarp

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for something else.

jovial spruce
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Im playing Sorcerer and am leeching health or gaining health when I dont want to, I cant find the source of the health gain, any ideas?

digital musk
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Sorc passive?

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Leech + pen nodes for each element

jovial spruce
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Thats it, thanks! Guess i gotta pass on the pen

gritty copper
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hello all, thoughts on 4th affix for ladle after cast/multi/pen?

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shock or stun?

deep tendon
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When you enable multiple nova elements do the nodes in them apply when another nova type is cast? Ie would a fire nova get bonus area from a lightning node like elemental expanse for example?

unborn hamlet
tacit thorn
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Hi. Cant see Never Late, Runemaster passive buff icon after adding 5th point, any idea why?

flint vortex
spark hearth
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Insofar as messing with Sorc has gone, I kinda just stumbled into fireball spam

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With meteor/flame ward/teleport/black hole (when I get it)

drowsy stirrup
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i need some general help, im following a guide for fireball/meteor Sorc and downloaded the relevant loot filter, the build is tied to a Build planner, however it doesn't really mention which attributes are most imporant, and since i'm still around 60s im unsure what attributes to prioritise in random drops

drowsy stirrup
silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (54) / Runemaster (39)

General:

β–Έ Health: 2,848, Regen: 20/s
β–Έ Mana: 483, Regen: 14/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 449%, Regen: 54/s
β–Έ Attributes: 14 Str / 1 Dex / 96 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 68% / 69% / 68% / 75% / 82% / 67% / 76%
β–Έ EHP: 3,783 / 3,818 / 3,783 / 4,802 / 4,066 / 3,765 / 4,066

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 570
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,049)
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Damage Types:

β–Έ Fire, Cold / Spell

Buffs:

β–Έ None

Used skills:

β€’ Meteor (26)
β€’ Fireball (22)
β€’ Snap Freeze (21)
β€’ Flame Ward (22)
β€’ Teleport (20)

Used unique items:
full bluff
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Int, cast speed, crit, health maybe

drowsy stirrup
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on all item parts or specific?

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im still quite noobish so i have no clue what priority on indiv pieces should be

spark hearth
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That’s the build I found while looking for possible builds of the wand there

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And from looking it up, Black Hole seems to absolutely suck?

full bluff
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Black Hole is pretty hard to get working. Meteor is hard to use as main damage skill, due to mana cost and low damage scaling.

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I like the idea of using the wand to generate mana with fire balls and triggering meteors πŸ™‚

spark hearth
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I just wanna spam fireballs while summoning meteors and binary stars

digital musk
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You can do just that and get to 600c comfortably, which is perfectly fine

spark hearth
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Lv36 at the moment so I can replace my whiffed LP2 firestarter with the fireball wand soon enough

digital musk
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You do not need to use cinder btw

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Its fine but there are better

spark hearth
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I’d assume a fire focused exalted wand/sceptre would do far better

digital musk
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Or ladle yes

spark hearth
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I do actually have a Mad Ladle

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For my lich

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Buuuut I got bored of them quite fast so I can just stash it over

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It’s LP 0 though so it’s on the block for replacement later

spark hearth
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The other one is an exalted +% elemental damage so at least that didn’t get wasted

full bluff
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I am going to try that crit on cast meteor build, it looks like it can be improved on quite a bit

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from video it looks pretty good

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heh ran out of mana in 5 sec

digital musk
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Yea thats always been the issue

solemn viper
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does someone have an updated hydrahedron build? heavybreathing

knotty hamlet
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Sorry for the Noobie question: I'm trying to get my Fireball to cost 0 mana. I have a wand -3 spell cost, the 3 points in "Mana Sphere" to reduce the cost of fireball by 3, but Fire Spray witch adds +5 for a net cost of 2 points per cast. Is there a way to remove those last 2 points? An item or something?

full bluff
proper hawk
full bluff
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I tried replacing my Wrongwarp with Cinder Song, but lost so much damage. Started to struggle

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Remind me again, what makes runemaster better than sorcerer. Trying to build fireballs on rm

rich plinth
spare glen
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Better gear affixes

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Way more ward

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Cfc invocation

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The list goes on and on

full bluff
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So basically runemaster has cfc shield, thats the main thing?

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I forgot the list πŸ™‚ and I played quite a bit of runemaster

spare glen
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Rm will be much better even if you dont use cfc

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It has more ward and more dmg

solemn viper
rich plinth
pliant shadow
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Hi champs. Can someone share their experience with me? Does Shattered Aegis notable in a spellblade tree gives you ward per second as basic arcane shield, or for every active shield up to 4?

spark hearth
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Black Hole is a binary now and going for the boss/rare damage end is helping it with that niche i guess

rustic sapphire
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how do u guys sustain direct cast frost claw?

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i havent even taken all those left nodes and i cant keep up casting it

rustic sapphire
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^ nevermind, made some tweaks. getting elemntal nova down to 0 cost and properly speccing into unsealed mana helped a lot. also switched to mad alchemist ladle from frozen ire...seems good for now

rustic sapphire
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which Runic Invocation do u guys use?

pliant shadow
solemn viper
opal mountain
rustic sapphire
plain glade
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Does Frost Claw buffs based on Freeze Rate still apply if element converted?

full bluff
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Tested my sorcerer fireball build on runemaster, same gear and similar skill setup. Guess which mastery was best?

digital musk
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Spellblade?

solemn viper
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For sure Sorcerer omegalul

pastel hedge
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Anyone that can give me a bit of help with playing frostbite frostclaw rune master? I've been following the maxroll guide for it and im not ideally geared, but im level 60 and can't clear the first levels of mono's. I was able to clear them at level 55 on my falconer right after the campaign with the same gear i fought lagon with.

unborn hamlet
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Order of importance, snowdrifts -> frostbite shackles -> twisted heart

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If you use ice barrage as secondary dps spell you should have no trouble clearing baseline monoliths

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I cleared them all before LVL 65

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I follow that guide myself, tho I made some adjustments to it after I understood the inner workings

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If you don't spec into frostclaw recasts until much much later, you should be fine on mana

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With just a -3 spell cost from a wand base

median hamlet
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frostbite and freeze rate are two different things

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the node should state clearly

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Frostbite does 36 dmg over 3 seconds, forst 30 stacks each givw 20% chance to freeze

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So 600% total freeze chance at 30 stacks

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Freeze rate multiplier refers to.FREEZE ailmrnt

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so you have a base level.of freeze, that is multiplied

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@plain glade

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So imo its not the same as IGNITW

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or SHOCK

plain glade
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Wat

plain glade
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I’m talking about the Ward per 40% freeze multiplier etc

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nothing to do with frostbite

median hamlet
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Frostbite chance converts

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Freeze rate wont

plain glade
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so it still has freeze rate

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Despite being converted?

median hamlet
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The base dmg doesn't affect the silment procced

plain glade
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No no

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I mean

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There’s a node that has +Ward for every 40% Freeze Multiplier

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But if I’ve already converted it to fire, the base spell no longer freezes (since it’s not an ice spell)

median hamlet
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but you still have % freeze rate

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so it would still give based on that

plain glade
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ah, all I needed to know

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Good lookingtons my g

median hamlet
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no worries

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if you press C it will show u on the others tab how much you have

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but i think.only the % from items count not your base passives

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but dont quote me on that

royal gull
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SUP πŸ˜„

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The prophecy was fulfilled, and I return

unborn hamlet
safe grail
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Yep. A fix not implementation. Wild that it was bugged

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At least it isnt like the diablo team, who would flaunt it around as like a bit of seasonal content lmao

hollow arrow
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πŸ‘€

tardy comet
safe grail
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apparently, but it was bugged online and wasnt functional.

full bluff
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Suggestions for non-frost-claw runemaster builds?

robust junco
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Ignite Glyph of Dominion

full bluff
royal gull
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The problem I now have is that they have selective buffering for some reason

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It won't let you buffer things that have the "same priority"

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Like say a builder and a spender that happen to have the same priority

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So you still have the same problem of janky inputs if you're holding right click to use your builder and tapping another key to use your spender, it won't buffer

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You can hold right click and tap a defensive or movement skill and those will have higher "priority" and buffer

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So the game is more responsive now in only certain cases

solemn viper
full bluff
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Trying untable core and crest of unity now

clear mural
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Runemaster's Holwing Rift Node - the node that allows the frost wall to be moved. Is the wall's cooldown reset when it moves or does it count down from the previous wall?

hasty vortex
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Ele nova burns pc lol 🀣 and server lag lol 🀣 at least mine does haha

royal palm
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hi guys, question if anyone can answer: if my FC is lightning and I use a +spell cold damage idol how will this affect my FC?

radiant vessel
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The cold damage won't get converted, it'll just do both cold and lightning

royal palm
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thanks so much

thorn fossil
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i have a nasty level 84 flame reave spellblade build just getting my corr stacked what will my corr cap be before the toon falls off?

spare glen
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depends, some pushed 1k with flame reave

glossy ice
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so hatd to int on this weaver will lol

next lance
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is there an endgame viable build with meteor?

solemn viper
next lance
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it never is. meteor costs a lot πŸ’€

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is there a legendary/set for meteor?

solemn viper
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add that to the meteor mana back node and it generates mana

next lance
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is runemaster just more fun to play? What build uses frost clawS? I heard they were OP.

solemn viper
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fc is op but boring after a while

next lance
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I know everyone has quit last epoch by this point until next seasons but I didn't even get to corruption levels lol. I jumped back inot PoE Necro league but got bored. It's just so tedious.

full bluff
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Fireball+meteor is pretty good

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You get a free meteor every 4 sec from teleport, mana regen from fireball to cast some inbetween

plain glade
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And nah having too much fun to quit. It’s also my only ARPG though (I’ve only played D3 Reaper of Souls before this)

deep blaze
silk pewterBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beta / 0.9.1c

General:

β–Έ Health: 1,008, Regen: 27/s
β–Έ Mana: 1,378, Regen: 19/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 0/s
β–Έ Attributes: 22 Str / 1 Dex / 12 Int / 7 Att / 6 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 71% / 53% / 100% / 75% / 38% / 73% / 73%
β–Έ EHP: 3,730 / 2,769 / 3,380 / 4,001 / 3,730 / 3,297 / 3,322

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 914
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,078)
β–Έ Block Chance: 29%, Mitigation: 43% (1,466)
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Damage Types:

β–Έ Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

β–Έ None

Used skills:

β€’ Flame Ward (20)
β€’ Teleport (20)
β€’ Static Orb (20)
β€’ Focus (20)
β€’ Snap Freeze (20)

Used unique items:
robust junco
# silk pewter

It might still be decent but it got kinda destroyed
@deep blaze

deep blaze
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ty

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did look kind cheep

robust junco
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It used to be one of the best build, one of the first that pushed 2k corruption
But it got nerfed and bugfixed

plain glade
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Does Infused Weapon (Spellblade Passive) affect Glamdring (Frostclaw Node) in any way?

robust junco
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Should yes

solemn viper
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is shatterstrike execute treshold viable on bossess?

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or is enchant weapon's conflagrate just better?

rose knot
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for runemaster which is more worth between vial and frey's retreat?

junior kestrel
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Hey all. I've been grinding days and days for a twisted heart for my frost claw build. And I've yet to find one with lp I need one with two. I mean 3-4 would be nice but that is never going to happen lol has anyone found one with 2 lp so far and how long did it take

safe grail
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0.65% chance to drop as a 2 LP before modifiers

junior kestrel
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Ugh ... So it ain't ever happen unt lol I've done it at like 450 corruption atleast 60-70 times

pale kiln
opal mountain
# junior kestrel Hey all. I've been grinding days and days for a twisted heart for my frost claw ...

2 of my first 4 Twisted hearts were 2LP. Ive had over 50 boss fights since then and Im probably seeing 1 out of 3 with a 1LP but no sign of a 2LP. The cool part about frost claw is that there are plenty of ways to play it and most people arent in a corruption level high enough to where they actually need a Twisted heart. Most dont need a slam on the TH either. Lightning is easier to gear than any of the other variations. Its all relative

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My question is who actually cares about leaderboards? Im enjoying building and farming gear so much I havent thought to look at it and honestly have no idea how to access it. Its going to be a shame when all these "balance" nerfs happen at the end of the season and most of the players arent even concerned with relative performance. Is anyone actually excited about leaderboards?

steel ridge
junior kestrel
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I would like to get a twisted heart with 2 lp. Want to push high just to limit test

junior kestrel
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I'm assuming the frost claw will be nerfed. I hope it doesn't get hit to hard because I love my build and I'm having so much fun. I think all builds should be strong. I don't think valence should come in unless PvP. And they only things that should be changed are the stuff that is weak. PvE doesn't matter about balence if they putting in PvP then yeah for sure πŸ™‚

torpid bough
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It does matter, it's boring if everyone is playing the same class. parties will be composed of all the same builds. And trading will only be interesting for that one build.

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Also someone who prefers to play melee or summoner shouldn't be forced to play a range build because that's the only viable one.

opal mountain
# junior kestrel I'm assuming the frost claw will be nerfed. I hope it doesn't get hit to hard be...

Yeah...Im not sure how many devs have actually played a FC build deep into corruption. Im only at 1.2k and it takes a lot of luck and rolls. Being CoF its been fun and honestly FC just has a high ceiling that will reward you if you get the gear. You absolutely hit a wall around 7-800 trying to balance cast speed and DPS/defenses. Most of the players who are running deep cor are just taking advantage of the Snap freeze duration that exceeds cooldown. I could see nerfing Snap Freeze but gutting FC would be silly since prob less than 1% of players will put in the 500 hrs to make a good one

next lance
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is there any known way to make glyph of dominion into cold damage?

junior kestrel
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I already have like 120hrs into my frost claw build lol

halcyon dust
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Hello! I'm pretty new to mage and saw some really fun looking frost claw builds but it looks like all the best ones convert to lightning. Does anyone know if there is a frost claw build that stays using cold?

opal mountain
plain glade
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That doesn’t answer their question in the slightest lmao

pale kiln
halcyon dust
halcyon dust
royal palm
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what does retaliate mean for frostclaw's shiver shell node?

plain glade
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Your mage auto casts frost claw at enemy

surreal marsh
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How smooth does Frost claw Mage play? I played 1 character so far and its an explosion trap blade dancer and it feels clunky if that makes sense. Looking to make a second character

royal palm
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i see, thanks

opal mountain
halcyon dust
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I've been trying to make a brain dead "push button and win" build and I was doing werebear and feeling pretty good about it but man so far even just leveling frost claw mage is soooooo much more tanky

surreal marsh
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@halcyon dust does the build feel smooth thru ability rotation?

halcyon dust
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Well I'm only like level 30 and all I do is cast frost claw. I don't have any of the multicast skills yet. I wish there was a way to level alts faster

plain glade
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Then around level 35 I set a loot filter for that character

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Level 50 I just focus on upgrading gear and skills

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Then around Level 60 breeze through the story to get CoF

halcyon dust
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Does anyone know if the frostbite frost claw build mentioned above can keep up with lightning frost claw builds?

royal palm
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has anyone compared core of the mountain vs static shell?

pale kiln
# halcyon dust I'm mostly interested in freezing things, but if the only way to do enough damag...

Depends on what 'high corruption' means for ya! I recco you check the video out for a better gauge. Maybe compare it with FrozenSentinel's lightning FC build to see how it compares! Both are great imo

And yes, with BinaQc's build almost everything is perma-frozen, including most bosses, if that's what you're going for.

I keep equipment for both lying around so i can switch it up whenever i want! Running around 7xx corr now with both easily, om sure i could push it even further (probs 1k?) and i'm far from BiS for both builds.

weak cosmos
royal palm
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thanks, ive been watching his vids hahah, lots of good stuff there

shell fern
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i believe plenty of bladedancers pushed to 2k before the addition of runemaster which is when that build was nerfed heavily

scenic sail
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Hey everyone, has anyone here actually seen a helmet they can show me with an exalted T6 or T7 "gain 20 mana from fireball" helment?

full bluff
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Will be interesting in next cycle, when they add a boss tier system, where I guess perma freeze/stun might not be possible. How different builds and masteries rank then.

full bluff
scenic sail
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In the bazaar apparently they do exist. I've got 300 hours in the game and never seen a single one, which I find odd, plenty of "Fireball pierce" helmets, but never the mana gained from fireball one, it seems to be at least 10x more rare than fireball pierce

full bluff
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What are building to use fireball as mana generator?

shell fern
pale kiln
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anyone zooming to the other side of the screen when Flame Rush is just tapped at times?

full bluff
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heh crest of unity mess up runic invocations, you don't get random runes anymore, just 3 same combinations, all bad ones

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Cast F/x/F changes order of elemental nova runes

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From the good ones to the bad ones, and back

full bluff
solemn viper
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i think it's not a bug

full bluff
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yes, there is a pattern to it and you can switch the order by using 2 type invocations

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now to figure out to not end up in the bad rotation

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bit tricky since the core thing with elemental nova is spamming super fast, hard to control order

junior hollow
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grab the node that puts runic invocation as the first 3 skills on ur bar

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you can push the CDR down pretty hard and still get to use the ability every couple of seconds

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If ur running e-nova and runebolt u already have tons of dmg sources

full bluff
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I know, but trying to make a build around casting invocation and elemental novas and not locking in using that node.

solemn viper
full bluff
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since it puts a big limit on use, both cooldown and bar skills

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it is working pretty well, with random invocation, if I get the good order on it

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3 good skills to pick, or the bad order has 3 bad skills πŸ™‚

junior hollow
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hmm yea

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exactly which invocation do you want to trigger everytime?

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i feel like if you're running both enova and runebolt you want some survivability

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im not sure what corr you're building for though

full bluff
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antipode (FLC), realm (LCF) and tide (CFL) thats the good ones

next lance
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can anyone advise me on the best way to level as a runemaster? im reading a maxroll guide that says glacier but..looks kinda clunky

junior hollow
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fire cold fire tho

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the ward shield

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arguably the best one lmao

full bluff
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Haven't been able to work that in yet in a way that flows nice

junior hollow
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Fair play, that's why i use the fixed set w/ cooldown

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Cause you dont need to pop it every sec

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And your cooldown is like what 8 seconds or smth? so u have the ward and damage reduction up all the time

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It's SUPER strong

full bluff
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I know all that πŸ™‚

junior hollow
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but im like you but opposite, havent messed around with many of the others

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just grand prism nova

full bluff
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I am mostly trying out alternative builds to frost claw

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see what works the best

junior hollow
#

yeah, fair

full bluff
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I keep running into limit or bugs that kind of stops them from scaling

junior hollow
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exploring runemaster is epic though, 40 invocations is nuts

junior hollow
surreal dove
#

Is frozen Ire inferior to Eye of Reen for shatterstrike.

junior hollow
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so some of them just dont scale well and become weak?

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despite being good early and mid game

full bluff
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Compared to frost claw most skills seem weak, especially the invocations

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My elemental nova spam is stronger than all the invocations

junior hollow
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ye unfortunately the nature of invocations makes it hard for it to out-dps

full bluff
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So it might just end up being CFC invocation and spamming novas

junior hollow
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since u cant really spam it the same way

junior hollow
full bluff
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I can invoke every 1-2 seconds and sustain mana

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Get ward from 3 diff rune invocations

junior hollow
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have you messed around with hydra at all?

full bluff
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But the node that generates runic energy when runes chance is bugged...

junior hollow
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:/

full bluff
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yes, I couldnt make hydra work well beyond 200c

junior hollow
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ive heard its decent but yea maybe not

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did you have box of hydrae?

full bluff
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yes, I use medium "tier" gear for everything

junior hollow
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gotcha

full bluff
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1-2lp stuff and t7 base stats

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not too much gear, but not undergeared either

junior hollow
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yeah so you can tell if the build is good or not lol

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and not being gear carried

full bluff
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if I have to run around in circle at 200corruption, I messed the build up

junior hollow
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yeah you wanna clear fast and not linger

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i get you

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keep moving

full bluff
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What is often anoying is that a skill that can be buildt for aoe and I get another one for single target. Then it turns out the single target outperforms the aoe skill...

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The balance and gap between skills is huge

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Or the aoe is better at single target

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So most of my builds end up being only 1 damage skill

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But for elemental nova invocation is promising since it also casts 3x elemental nova

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and you get elemental novas on teleport

twin adder
#

Can someone please explain this line from the spark charge guide on maxroll? "Flame Ward is a powerful Defensive Skill. The Damage Reduction it provides is incredible. You are extremely tanky while it's active and we can achieve 100% uptime with Frost Wall." The "Frost Wall" at the end there is blue like its a skill, but has no tooltip and doesnt link to anything, and this build doesnt use frost wall whatsoever. Ive looked up "100% flame ward uptime" and cant find anything.

full bluff
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I gave up and went with locked in CFC runes and just spamming elemental nova, too many restrictions and complications with actively using runes and casting

solemn viper
subtle bobcat
#

can someone suggest a good build for frostclaw runemaster, can i trust maxroll on this? :>

junior kestrel
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@subtle bobcat I have. A good one. The one in using is super good. I'm rolling through corruption 500 πŸ™‚

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And my build is only like 60% done

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And does anyone have a 2 lp twisted heart that they would be willing to trade

full bluff
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Direct casting Elemental nova is pretty fun, don't get the massive headaches when it is limited to where you aim, not fullscreen

digital musk
#

The ward node used to not have a cd at all

twin adder
#

Coming from a really good setup for healing hands divine bolt pally, the need to constantly maintain flame ward manually is annoying

digital musk
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You dont need it constantly

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Just when you're about to take a big hit you can't avoid or in danger etc

twin adder
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well the ward im getting so far sits at like 2k, vs the 25k average for the pally setup

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HH divine bolts you feel like an impenetrable tank

digital musk
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My thrown together lb build just used twisted heart and I would reach 7-8k ward mapping and 10k in bosses

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Went to 1k c

twin adder
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maybe its because im doing the spark charge melee build vs the meta frost claw builds

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but i just dont have +3 or 4 frost claw relic to use and everything saysd you need that

digital musk
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Wait this is a melee runemaster build?

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What the fk

twin adder
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ya it works with the mana strike melee node

digital musk
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You can just press lightning blast at 0 mana

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And clear the screen

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All the way to 1k

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Maxroll moment #5,000,000

junior kestrel
#

And does anyone have a 2 lp twisted heart that they would be willing to trade

junior kestrel
unborn hamlet
#

unless u drop it while already playing together

next lance
#

wait yeah what i thought trading was impossible?

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and the gifting feature im guessing is only if it drops and you give it to someone who was in the party at the time? im so sad i just startng cycle and i gave my friend Firestarter's Torch, wish i still had it to level my mage :x

unborn hamlet
next lance
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yeah damn, i wonder, can she give it back if we left the game or is it bound now 😦

unborn hamlet
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you can gift items that did not drop while playing together only if u have the corresponding resonance (gold or for any LP unique case Obsidian) but u need to play together a lot to get those to drop

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so if u just wanna trade items, its adviced to find people to play together all the time for easier farming

unborn hamlet
next lance
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damn. a firestarters torch with low drop level is probably not even worth it then huh

unborn hamlet
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youre probably better off just finding a new firestarter torch

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its not that rare

next lance
#

but, i think you level RM with cold anyway

unborn hamlet
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i dunno, i used mostly garbage with no idea what im doing πŸ˜‚

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cant even remember what spells i used, but it was glacier for the most part until monoliths

next lance
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yeah i thought glacier looks clunky and awful but it one taps everything so, i'm ok with it

unborn hamlet
#

frostclaw as a leveling spell is just really terrible, its not useful until u lvl it up to like lvl 12-13 at least, u really need that gift of winter node maxed and a wand to bring the cost down enough to be able to spam it

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you might even want to get like a hemophage sword or something on main, put some insane stats into it, and just transfer it for leveling

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and just use mana strike

next lance
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ok thats good to know

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is glacier best in slot for leveling until late game, just having it specced and respec much later? the rm leveling guide said, you start w/ runeclaw when it's level 4 but yeah i also don't like the aim, it only hits that point whereas stuff like glacier or nova feel really 'easy'

unborn hamlet
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That's the way I did it, I used glacier until I had skills LVL 15 or 16

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It's just a 1 button delete

junior kestrel
torpid bough
#

Anyone playing disintegrate? I made the switch yesterday after following the levelling build and it seriously feels like a downgrade

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DPS is not as good as I expected and the lack of mobility is a huge pain in the ass. Does it get better at some point?

bold wave
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any spellblade afficionados in here? have some questions regarding shatterstrike and frost claw

plain glade
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Where fire starter torch be at tho

half pollen
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Currently you need two specific uniques to make it work and thats kinda sad

robust junco
bold wave
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is it viable to use frostclaw as mana or should I swap out for mana strike?

solemn viper
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on that topic, is there a shatter strike build that's viable? xD

robust junco
bold wave
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so far 75k dps

robust junco
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So I don't know how much you need for viable

bold wave
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thank you for the input vlad!

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I'm trying not to look at build guides rn, a little challenge for myself so I don't get in the habit of relying on them to make fun builds

silk pewterBOT
robust junco
bold wave
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No you're all good, bud!

obsidian reef
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spellblade mentioned ⁉️

bold wave
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Yes, that's me

obsidian reef
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I'm top 1 leaderboard shatterstrike spellblade rn

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You can check my build on lastepochtools

bold wave
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nice! I'm trying not to look at build guides rn, but when I feel I'm at a brick wall, I'll check it out!

obsidian reef
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also keep in mind that 1k corruption last patch is significantly easier than 1k corruption now

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so that build's viability for 1k is questionable now

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I reached 1k corruption with low life shatterstrike though

bold wave
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That's actually what I was planning on running!

robust junco
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What are the benefits of LL here?

obsidian reef
robust junco
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But could you not do Ward per Second and keep your life?

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Or not enough support?

obsidian reef
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the thing is, spellblade is already so squishy that you'd have to use ward to push higher

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life in a bad spot rn

bold wave
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Yeah, regen seems pretty iffy too because of how much damage you'd be losing out on

solemn viper
trim depot
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Hey guys, i'm a lucky guy and I found 4LP Ladle. What are the best suffixes for FrostClaw Mage? Blind and shock on hit?

unborn hamlet
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blind is trolling

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light pen and stun

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unless u are not playing spark charge, in that case dont use a laddle

trim depot
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why it is trolling?

unborn hamlet
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because its not helpful

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at all, all it does is reduce the chance of enemies critting u

trim depot
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would that not be helpful in higher cor

unborn hamlet
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no, u want to have either 100% reduced bonus dmg taken from crits

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or 100% crit avoidance

trim depot
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okay that would be better ... you are right

unborn hamlet
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in both cases blind is useless

trim depot
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so crit avoidance on boots and chest?

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What about chill on hit? I have a good slam with chill on hit

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What is the difference between "Spell critical strike chance" and "critical strike chance"?

nimble shoal
trim depot
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what about chill on hit? Sorry for all the questions πŸ™‚

solemn viper
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nope, thats not good since you wanna use lightning frost claw not ice

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you just need a t5 anyway so you can craft it easly, you want t7 prefix

trim depot
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Okay I have these Slams for a 4 LP Ladle:

  1. T7 Cast Speed - T5 Spell crit / T5 blind - T4 Stun
  2. T7 Crit multiplier - T5 Cast speed / T5 Stun - T5 Lightning pen
  3. T7 Cast Speed - T5 spell crit / T4 stun - T3 Lightning pen
  4. T7 Crit chance - T5 cast speed / T5 Stun - T5 Lightning pen
  5. T7 crit chance - T5 cast speed / T5 ignite - T5 Stun
    I Think it doesnt matter that much that it Stun Chance isnt T5 on some slams?
    Do I take one slam, or should I wait for another?
solemn viper
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number 2 is very good

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are the stats good on the affixes?

barren pawn
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I wouldnt slam anything but a dual t7 into a 4lp ladle

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7575 or something similar

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or a t7 / t6

trim depot
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Yeah pretty much have 29 Forging left and Stun Chance is T6
Cast peed is 22%
Crit multi ist 83
Stun is 206
Pen ist 10%

barren pawn
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something like that

unborn hamlet
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Wouldn't you want t7 cast speed

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Like, way more

trim depot
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yeah I loos around 30% cast speed

barren pawn
unborn hamlet
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Think option 3 is best atm

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But I would not settle for that on a 4LP laddle

barren pawn
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^

unborn hamlet
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Up to you, but option 3 definitely wins

trim depot
solemn viper
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t4 and t3 on a 4lp ladle seems like a waste

unborn hamlet
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It is

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But you want t7 cast speed

solemn viper
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if you can forge it to 5 otherwise wait

unborn hamlet
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That is non negotiable for that build

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If you CoF just target prophecies for wands, if you're MG, just make that big investment into a perfect slam weapon

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You already have the expensive part

trim depot
unborn hamlet
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It's pretty much a dead stat

trim depot
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yeah im cof

unborn hamlet
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If you're rank 10, and have both of the doubling lenses, you should drop it in no time

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Might even get double exalted

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I have a T6 cast speed t7 freezerate T6 cold DMG wand in my stash but it's useless cos I can't slam that into frozen ire

trim depot
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yeah im rank 10 for some time. The last two weeks i played marksman ...

unborn hamlet
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And I need -cost anyway πŸ˜”

trim depot
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But thanks guys for the help and insight. I think I will play a little bit more for a better slam, but now I know what I have to look for

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If option 3 hat T5 lightning pen - I think I would slam it, cause it would be doubled with T5 :/

safe grail
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slam deez

iron citrus
trim depot
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Okay I don’t want to do arenas. For monolith its useless? So confusing. 🫀

iron citrus
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ignite tech for fire eater in flame rush, blind for what i mentioned above

trim depot
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So ignite and stun for monolith pushing/playing?

iron citrus
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ignite is more useful against bosses where u can actually stack the ignite for the pass thru

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u wont be doing that much in normal monos

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blind without malice is not as useful either, so up to you nd ur build

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malice is very costly mana and points wise

trim depot
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Okay

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So the best suffix combo will be stun and lightning pen as they already mentioned above.

iron citrus
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up to you freind, u can also get stun in idols

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i use blind and ignite for different occasions on two 4lp ladles, build however you see works better for ur build tho, depending on ur end goal

trim depot
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Hehe. Yeah but now I think I understand those mechanics a little bit better. πŸ™ Thanks

iron citrus
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no worries man! hope you find the perfect slam ur looking for and enjoooy slammin it!

next lance
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At what point do i get better mana control for frost claw spam on the runemancer nova freeze build ?
#i have 3 points in cost reduction already, but as im adding the bonus proj, and nova, the mana cost is up to 45. With a mana cost reduction staff. Do i need to grind til i get idols with frost claw mana efficiency? Even then if i have two idols at around 15% cost efficiency. thats 30% and it brings me from 45 to like 31.5 or whatever. How are people getting down to 22-25?

royal palm
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what do you guys think about rift bolt? is 5/5 too much? im thinking about 3/5 or 4/5

unborn hamlet
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Ideally t7

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On T6 you about break even but sometimes you still run out

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Also it depends what Staff you use as well

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Some of them increase the mana cost

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You also need to get all the mana reduction for Nova as well in the skill tree, it should ideally cost 1 or 0

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The node for that is somewhere in the top left

next lance
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that other build is probably mana hungry too though eh so meh

unborn hamlet
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That way, even with a -3 base on wands you'll be fine

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Instead I spec into the DMG increases to cover some of the difference

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I used nothing but the freeze build since I started playing RM and finished the story with absolute trash before LVL 60, and all base monoliths before LVL 65 with minimal gear with it

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It works well enough,

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i can link you my build planner if u wanna take a glance, given its basically end game gear (my top timeline is something over 3k corruption), you can check my skill specs and passives

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.6

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (21) / Runemaster (72)

General:

β–Έ Health: 1,218, Regen: 20/s
β–Έ Mana: 221, Regen: 10/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 570%, Regen: 43/s
β–Έ Attributes: 14 Str / 1 Dex / 65 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 100% / 199% / 77% / 79% / 81% / 118% / 58%
β–Έ EHP: 1,695 / 1,695 / 1,695 / 1,945 / 1,695 / 1,695 / 1,443

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 26%, Threshold: 244
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,682)
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 31%

Damage Types:

β–Έ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

β–Έ None

Used skills:

β€’ Frost Claw (24)
β€’ Elemental Nova (21)
β€’ Flame Ward (21)
β€’ Flame Rush (21)
β€’ Runic Invocation (21)

Used unique items:
unborn hamlet
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its not the ideal ideal gear as i dont have the best exalts possible, but the upgrades i have left are very RNG

next lance
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hmmm how does the clear feel if you dont have all the extra casts (which are a part of the mana refund right) ? is it like super single target focused? any chance you have a video of what it looks like specced that way? "feel" is big for me so if i respec out of things to reduce mana cost but the dmg/clear feels bad its gonna suck haha

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nvm im seeing you spec into nova and multiple of the extra casts, there's only the one extra cast on the bottom left you skipped thats what im already doing and mana feels bad. ill just get the idols and see, since i need one more level in merchants to buy

solemn viper
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any tips on where to farm a t7 staff?

unborn hamlet
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It hits everything in its path

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You can also use ice barrage as a substitute dps spell

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Unspec flame rush , only keep it as a movement spell

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And replace snap freeze (which is just boss stun utility) with specced ice barrage

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The clear is not fast without the recasts, but it was enough to do 300-400 corruption easily

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You don't need that much mana refund if you don't have all of that extra cost

unborn hamlet
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It's kinda not good

junior kestrel
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Does anyone have a 2lp twisted heart they would be willing to trade

ionic vigil
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Hey guys I'm new and I'm trying out all the characters.

I like lightning which mage should I go for lightning? I've gone sorcerer but I'm only level 20 so I can start again if rune master is better

unborn hamlet
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rune master is uncomparably way better

plain glade
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I’m looking through the passives for Sorcerer, why are they just so much worse lol

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Like read Dragon Breath (Sorcerer) and then read Circle of Elements (Runemaster)

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Why does a node far in the Sorcery tree require so much set up to do what Circle of Elements does for free, with no setup?

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This is just awful balancing.

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Honestly, should probably like double the node’s power at the very least to +20%, and let it scale to +200%. Or do +25%, and have it as a maximum of 8 nodes for a +200% cap, for double the strength with less skill point investments.

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Is there anywhere I can compile and post a huge list of proposed changes to the passive trees? Because it really bugs me how unbalanced this is.

feral moss
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it is generically true that many of Runemaster's passive nodes are excellent, and also true that Runic Invocation is quite versatile and strong, but it's not like sorceror is useless. there are reasons to pick sorceror - like if you really want access to Meteor, or if you're planning to do a mana-stacking build for Fractured Crown

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also the devs are aware that older classes (like sorceror) have been powercrept and they've mentioned they plan to go back over the passive nodes for older classes and touch them up to bring them in line with newer classes' power

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especially for someone who wants to go for a lightning-specialized mage build, sorceror is quite good since it provides access to Crackling Precision, Distant Spark, and Archmage

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...and i guess technically lightning meteor is a thing though i wouldn't recommend that

plain glade
feral moss
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if it's available to all mage subclasses then i don't consider it to be a "runemaster" strength. it's just available to all mages

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i mean Void Knight has a passive that gives you more crit multi per point allocated to Void Knight, so for Void Knight it's important that it has as many good passive nodes as possible, so that you actually want to put all your points into the Void Knight tree

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but sorc and runemaster don't have any such thing.

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runemaster is very bottom-heavy, a lot of its best nodes are in the section that is available to all mages. and all that means is that mage gets a lot of cool passives.

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i mean if i look at the top half of the runemaster tree, those nodes don't really seem that good to me. other than maybe Decree of the Burning Wind and Ancient Inscriptions i'm not seeing very useful nodes

plain glade
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Difference is, putting those points into Runemaster will directly aid Runemaster a lot more than it will the other subclasses, since it furthers your ability to spec into the later Runemaster tree as well

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And I’ve also got suggestions for buffing the left side of the tree for sorcerer as well

feral moss
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and Recollection in Sorc tree is just a more point-efficient version of Ancient Inscriptions anyway

plain glade
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Which is open to everyone

feral moss
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point allocation hasn't been an issue for me, it's not hard to split 45/45 points across the sorc and runemaster trees and grab everything that's useful in both

plain glade
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Well, current recollection matches Ancient Inscription once you’ve reached 80 Intelligence

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My proposed buff would increase the match rate to 120 Intelligence, which would allow for more flexibility and low intelligence builds to still profit

feral moss
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they give the same amount of CD-speed at 80 intelligence but Recollection gives it to you for 4 passive points

plain glade
feral moss
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fair enough, i'm just saying the options exist for both sorc and runemaster to get cd-speed and sorc's takes fewer points letting you allocate other things too

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my sorc build has a 25mage-52sorc-36rune point allocation πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™€οΈ and the build wouldn't be meaningfully better if i were a runemaster instead.

(though in my case i'm forced to go sorc since it's a meteor build)

plain glade
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Like… it’s not really up for debate that Runemaster does what sorcerer does but better, except for the things that literally only Runemaster can do, like meteor

full bluff
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Sorcerer has one passive that is really really good

unborn hamlet
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yeah, it's called Runemaster

ionic vigil
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Damn, so if I wanna play as a lightning type character, rune master is better than sorcerer?

elfin peak
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I haven't played sorcerer, but lightning runemaster is insanely good

barren pawn
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wait

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no craterborns a skill passive

plucky sandal
plain glade
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Where get Firestarter Torch?

digital musk
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Best place to get it is from the random mob that drops it when you forget you want it

plain glade
digital musk
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nah thats buy plat and trade for it

plain glade
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I should have said the… idk standard RNG procedure tbh

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The desire sensor

ionic vigil
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I'm new to the game so I'm probably doing something really wrong, but I've tried every character to level 30ish except for the paladin looking guy, and the mage has just been absolutely horrible to level. My spells are barely doing any damage, continually running out of mana it's crazy.

next lance
ionic vigil
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You know early on those flying winged things that raise zombies? I can barely kill them the damage is so low.

Every other class has been face roll

subtle bobcat
elfin peak
subtle bobcat
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I played the lightning Variant from frozen sentinel and literally was kicked out by my friends, you cannot play any coop with this :x

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Numbers there insane :>

elfin peak
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hehe yeah, I learned a lot from frozen sentinel as well

silk pewterBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.6

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (24) / Spellblade (2) / Runemaster (67)

General:

β–Έ Health: 1,188, Regen: 24/s
β–Έ Mana: 277, Regen: 10/s
β–Έ Ward Retention: 722%, Regen: 79/s
β–Έ Attributes: 29 Str / 25 Dex / 174 Int / 6 Att / 10 Vit
β–Έ Resistances: 70% / 62% / 70% / 72% / 68% / 124% / 58%
β–Έ EHP: 2,021 / 1,886 / 2,021 / 2,597 / 1,992 / 2,132 / 1,822

Defenses:

β–Έ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 238
β–Έ Dodge Chance: 4% (118)
β–Έ Armor Mitigation: 46% (2,761)
β–Έ Crit Avoidance: 31%

Damage Types:

β–Έ Cold, Lightning, Fire / Spell

Buffs:

β–Έ None

Used skills:

β€’ Snap Freeze (21)
β€’ Runic Invocation (22)
β€’ Frost Claw (26)
β€’ Flame Rush (21)
β€’ Elemental Nova (22)

elfin peak
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have lots of room for improvement as well

plucky sandal
elfin peak
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As Aywin said, you can't see anything hehe

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the whole screen is blowing up with your magic might

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I want better gloves&amulet. And I've bricked my 2LP boots and relic/ring

shrewd birch
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I am trying to build a frostclaw build and am confused why people use flame rush over teleport for movement. Is there an actual advantage I can't see?

subtle bobcat
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Maybe to get an element for runic innovacation, its also used to get some burning on the Boss for better ward Generation if I remember correct

unborn hamlet
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That build is not for the feint of hearted weak PCs

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Since the game is poorly optimised still, you might just nuke your FPS within a second instead of the enemies on screen

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πŸ˜‚

elfin peak
elfin peak
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I also tried teleporting with runic invocation. It just felt wierd, maybe you can cope

shrewd birch
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OK. I know nothing about managing runes. Do I need to use skills in a specific order?

elfin peak
feral moss
# shrewd birch OK. I know nothing about managing runes. Do I need to use skills in a specific o...

the majority of players take the node Immutable Order in Runic Invocation which makes it so that you no longer need to cast spells in a specific order, but instead it's based on the order of spells on your skillbar. you can opt out of doing this but then you do need to make sure you're manually casting the skills to obtain the combination you want. and the combination you want is likely to be frost-fire-frost for Reowyn's whatever-it's-called

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the thing is that Immutable Order ignores non-elemental skills and also ignores Runic Invocation itself when assessing the order of your skills, so if you choose to use Teleport, that means your remaining 3 skills have to be cold-fire-cold in that exact order on your bar (they can have gaps between them but it has to be that order)

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but i personally do not find that to be a problem. if you're using the standard frost claw build that people like FrozenSentinel have popularized, you can easily just set up your skill bar as QTeleport - WRunic Invocation - ESnap Freeze - RFlame Ward - RMBFrost Claw and still have frost-fire-frost with Immutable Order

shrewd birch
south talon
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started a spark charge spell blade for the first time, how is leveling into the build? how should i play it

unborn hamlet
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who will tell him

south talon
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what im sayin.. im using torch and ladle with fireball, just tried the bee sword using the spellblade passive skill. dog dodoo

solemn viper
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if you have sunwreath ring you can use them tho

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you go firebrand and flame reave, the mana cost is not that taxing after you max out the abilities on the right for flame reave

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the dmgs are not amazing but its doable

elfin peak
ionic vigil
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Wow sorcerer is so bad. Time to try rune master lol

full bluff
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Which skills did you try on sorcerer?

ionic vigil
digital musk
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Sorc is bad cause you didn't like lightning at lvl13 omegalul

ionic vigil
proper hawk
proper hawk
feral moss
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if you're level 13... have you even managed to get your sorc mastery? πŸ€”

digital musk
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You do not even have enough skill points at 35 to truly be a certain class anyway

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How can you blame this on the class I really just don't understand

full bluff
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It depends a lot on which skills you use. Some are great with 2-3 points in them, some are really good at 20 points. Some are never good.

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With 35 points into elemental nova it is finally starting to feel good.

full bluff
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it is from beta, right before release

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I have a feeling something is bugged with elemental nova, but can't find it πŸ™‚

spare pendant
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oh so

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ele pen was applying at 7* its rate

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thats probably why

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and probably some other things

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thats not his fault, at the time we had no idea what was happening

full bluff
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ok, so pen from skill node and crest of unity was adding way more?

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7x seems about right

spare pendant
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its fixed now

safe grail
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1.5k corrupt as fireball

unborn hamlet
safe grail
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Hehe

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Nah it’s a solo mapper

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Havent seen that staff before so

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It’s kinda neat

solemn viper
safe grail
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Chest because staves are considered melee weps

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So 15% extra DR that is multi

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And hp scaling etc

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Gloves probably just cause of fire pen

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Which is weirdge

solemn viper