Yesterday it dropped x2 lp3 exang
Today = x2 lp2 hearts 
#🧙┃mage
abstract bramble
vernal finch
Yesterday it dropped x2 lp3 exang
Today = x2 lp2 hearts <:gregory:1182373904937...
wtf
i never even got ever 2 lp exsang, im at 1700
abstract bramble
If I get 7k health + capped endu & such ima delete my char 🤣🤣
hardy loom
smh
abstract bramble
Rip +800m
hollow arrow
yeah figured it would lmao
vale tartan
How much damage would you be able to do with enchant weapons conflagrate node
hardy loom
is this a math question
vale tartan
Yes
vernal finch
anyone know if runemaster have chance to blind / stun on their kit?
hardy loom
i f-ing finally slammed a t6 ward on shackles
💀
thought im gonna fill up another graveyard tab
sturdy summit
anyone know if runemaster have chance to blind / stun on their kit?
I believe all spells have a chance to stun
and lightning's personality likes to buff stun
I believe shock increases stun chance
can't think of anything for blind, but blind kind of sucks
vernal finch
I believe all spells have a chance to stun
are this mean increase stun on laddle not bad idea? 4th stat?
whats best stat on belt? cooldown? or lightning damage?
sturdy summit
lightning damage on belt? Is that even possible?
at least, not as a suffix
CDR is a suffix
cedar ocean
Yeah you can have lightning dmg on belt as suffix
But still I'd always opt for t7 cdr over dmg there
sturdy summit
what is this suffix. I don't see it.
sturdy summit
yeah
cedar ocean
Yeah mb mb
hardy loom
i dont feel the impact of my t7 cdr slam on my strands 
cedar ocean
I honestly did feel i4
sturdy summit
if you're doing lightning, you probably already have a ton of CDR from int
cedar ocean
Felt great speed wise doing the monos
hardy loom
was like a 2.3 > 2.1sec diff on flame rush
cedar ocean
Yeah I had only the passive node for cdr before that
So it helped with tp a lot haha
sturdy summit
the cdr from int is simply insane, and it's hard to feel like anything is having an effect after that
cedar ocean
Yeah I also did a lot of slams at onnce when I did my belt
So I got a bunch of int too
hardy loom
but flame rush just too good with frenzy
cedar ocean
Maybe why it felt so much
sturdy summit
that's why I play frostbite. I get my second cold rune from frost claw :D
hardy loom
maybe i can revisit my cold rm now that i slammed the shackles
i can consider a LL
not sure if thats a thing
lul
sturdy summit
not sure if thats a thing
I think most people prefer twisted heart, and it's particularly awkward to do LL on frostbite because you can't use last steps, but you can manage with just body and gloves if you got that t6 health to ward slam on shackles.
sturdy summit
yeah, LL means no heart
hardy loom
do u run the 600% freeze multi for teleport?
its good dmg but super low cd on teleport is so amazing
sturdy summit
no, I can't tolerate the extra 5s cooldown
sturdy summit
I do like the haste refresh on tp when running through a map, though. Best thing about that tree. I'm not sure if I'll stick with it though. I'll probably unspec tp again and try frost wall again eventually.
hardy loom
frost wall prob the better option
unborn hamlet
with proper gear ur already doing 4-5k stacks in few seconds
no need for extra freeze
hardy loom
but having to press one more button 😓
vernal finch
was like a 2.3 > 2.1sec diff on flame rush
bruh so small lol
so better for lightning damage then
hardy loom
bruh so small lol
yeah it gets less noticeable on already low cooldown
hardy loom
impt point is high rolls on the strands
sturdy summit
armor is a suffix and lightning damage is a prefix. I don't understand what you're considering here at all.
sturdy summit
guess so. I thought they were asking for the 4th affix
vernal finch
armor is a suffix and lightning damage is a prefix. I don't understand what you'...
the t7 i mean to put 1 LP
hardy loom
tho a single t5 on armor puts u at 90% already
sturdy summit
ah, okay
vernal finch
guess so. I thought they were asking for the 4th affix
that was for laddle
sturdy summit
it doesn't help you, but I want freeze rate as the t7 on belt :p
vernal finch
near the 180% mana spend gain as ward thing
my no LP belt was 174, my 1 LP belt is 137, but 70% ward retention
37% less mana to ward trade for CD
hardy loom
high rolls on mana spend should be better than ward retention
vernal finch
if i dont get the cd probably not worth to even use it
unborn hamlet
it doesn't help you, but I want freeze rate as the t7 on belt :p
louder for the non believers in the bacK!
whats ur freeze at btw
vernal finch
why would lightning frost need freeze rate?
unborn hamlet
if i get 3LP frozen ire ever, i will break 3k
sturdy summit
like 2k. I'm just under 600 corruption right now.
unborn hamlet
you got ways to go boi
sturdy summit
yeah, a long way
hardy loom
if i get 3LP frozen ire ever, i will break 3k
whats ur highest ticks on dummy
plain glade
yeah, a long way
lol who cares though my man
unborn hamlet
testing dmg on a dummy KEKW
hardy loom
i just use it to see the dot dmg lul
sturdy summit
why would lightning frost need freeze rate?
lightning doesn't need freeze rate, but I'm playing frostbite
unborn hamlet
if i know how to count numbers then its around 6milions
if im blind and dumb then 600k
but im pretty sure its a 6 and 000 000
vernal finch
lightning doesn't need freeze rate, but I'm playing frostbite
aaaaaah no wonder
hardy loom
should be higher cuz my per tic is 680k highest
how i see is i just stack to 999 and stop casting
vernal finch
does frostbite can perma freze oro?
hardy loom
then see the resulting dot
unborn hamlet
how i see is i just stack to 999 and stop casting
why stop?
999 is not the cap
u ediotta
unborn hamlet
@sturdy summit make me a spreadsheet to calculate freeze rate per stack of chill k thx
sturdy summit
okay, so, I've heard that freeze rate per stack of chill doesn't affect frostbite damage
it doesn't convert, only global frm
but I haven't tested that to confirm it
hardy loom
i was looking for t7 frostbite pen affix on armor on the freeze multi base armor, one page in bazaar and price was insane
💀
unborn hamlet
its about the amount of stacks at that point
sturdy summit
I think frostbite chance t7 is better for body
unborn hamlet
na fam T7 armor % is the go
sturdy summit
I could be convinced of that
unborn hamlet
well in active combat i have about 4k freezerate
just need to fix my idols so frostbite lasts longer
hardy loom
oo thats high af
sturdy summit
puff puff
unborn hamlet
also im convinced having FC eff and cold dmg over time -> FC eff armor/mana%
on idols
hardy loom
i do that too
sturdy summit
yeah, I take armor/mana on grands, but damage on ornates
unborn hamlet
same
abstract bramble
😵😵 game lagging
Forgot to turn of everything from the new patch 🤣🤣
@hardy loom Does shift feel different after the mini patch? 🤨🤨
hardy loom
no?
abstract bramble
I mean when your mapping
hardy loom
nope
abstract bramble
Weird, feels different when using it (like interface stuff)
hardy loom
🤔
abstract bramble
Idk 🤣🤣
Something is different, (maybe it's smoother gameplay & I'm not used to it) 🤣🤣
hardy loom
ive been a lazy gamer nowadays
i map traps to right click and shift to the side buttons of my mouse
and just play one handed with the mouse
same as on my runemaster
too bad i cant map the other mouse button
abstract bramble
After shift > it's like not so smooth (does it make sense?) When mapping
hardy loom
using g304 logitech
hardy loom
After shift > it's like not so smooth (does it make sense?) When mapping
camera view difference ?
abstract bramble
Turn off evey thing
hardy loom
idk but i did notice a tiny difference from ticking and unticking those options
but i dont know how to put it into words
it is what it is
xD
abstract bramble
At least I'm not imagine it then 🤣ðŸ¤
@hardy loomcan u join uhhmmm
sanctum marked and i stream?
i show you
abstract bramble
just watch 😛
abstract bramble
in talk1
hardy loom
cant tell anything cuz the video is laggy
discord streams arent the best
but anyways, 6k hp holy moly
@abstract bramble
vernal finch
failed belt slam @_@
hollow arrow
rip belt
abstract bramble
No 🤣🤣
hardy loom
its never silky smooth after i exit from shift
abstract bramble
Idk how to explain 🤣🤣
abstract bramble
but anyways, 6k hp holy moly
6,5 if using t7 heart 🤣🤣🤣
hardy loom
lul
abstract bramble
its never silky smooth after i exit from shift
Like if you shift when not mapping it's smooth (when mapping it has a tiny delay) it make sense?
hardy loom
new matt video coming out with "INSANE 7K HP 4K CORRUPTION MM" if u post a video
hardy loom
Like if you shift when not mapping it's smooth (when mapping it has a tiny delay...
yeah
sounds normal
💀
abstract bramble
Like right after shift you supposed to move right after but when mapping it has a little delay
Not the case for me earlier 🤣🤣
vernal finch
anyone use jungle belt here? for perma flame rush....
hardy loom
always been the case for me 😢
hardy loom
anyone use jungle belt here? for perma flame rush....
sounds crazy i like it
add the flame rush T7 on helmet
and u giga zooming
vernal finch
i have it..... but i often die using that belt, cause i move too fast, my ward usually very low, and i dash into like alot of mobs
lol
abstract bramble
new matt video coming out with "INSANE 7K HP 4K CORRUPTION MM" if u post a video
Idk 🤣🤣 if I reach 7k heatlh I spam chat 🤣🤣
hardy loom
rofl
hardy loom
i have it..... but i often die using that belt, cause i move too fast, my ward u...
thats the cons of rm
vernal finch
i use it on my rogue though
hardy loom
for wells mono i sometimes die cuz i just hold down frostclaw and not move
then suddenly 10k ward gone and i die
*pikachu face
hardy loom
Really annoying since I always have 100 mobs chasing me 🤣🤣
i throw 2-3 trap and run one circle around the mob for the arrow to detonate
but mostly just run to objective
abstract bramble
I'm always jamming shift 🤣
vernal finch
so can runemaster really have stun, cause there a guide on youtube that use increase stun on laddle
hardy loom
too low to happen on boss and mono mobs die too fast to care about stun
vernal finch
i mean its for extra debuff for increase damage from laddle
its max 8 debuff for laddle buff right
hardy loom
the regular fc nova already does 8 debuff
abstract bramble
Crazy 🤣🤣 I lost connection
Logged back in and the delay is not there 🤣🤣
vernal finch
the regular fc nova already does 8 debuff
ahhh ic
hardy loom
iirc even the cold shred from flame rush or the lightning shred also counts as an ailment
safe grail
deez also counts as an ailment
hardy loom
stiff crown
Gottem
hardy loom
🤑
vernal finch
nice, from arbor?
bronze plank
question - why does frostclaw mage use gloves that reduce dot damage (armor applies to dot) when they have a cleanse built into frostclaw?
vernal finch
dot is the one in the ground
not poison
but tbh doesnt really matter u just die in 1-2 sec mostly that glove like buys extra 0.4 sec?
hardy loom
question - why does frostclaw mage use gloves that reduce dot damage (armor appl...
dot dmg is everything damage over time (ailments, channeling) mostly monster breathes lol or those laser beams from skulls
its not only from ailments
vernal finch
oh shees my swadling glove got t7 int
vernal finch
15% and 5 all stat
hardy loom
i would love a swadling with t7 int and t7 armor lul
vernal finch
int only 14 sad
hardy loom
i got a t7 int and t7 lightning res instead
bronze plank
I'm using a pair temporarily and it's got 16int and 6 all attributes but the rest of it is trash <_<
health regen t2 coldres and melee atkspd
hardy loom
I'm using a pair temporarily and it's got 16int and 6 all attributes but the res...
good enough
bronze plank
I've been trolled by weaver items more on my mage in a few days of playing it than for all the hours I played 2 separate level100 rogues XD
hardy loom
its the only stat u care about anyway, high int
bronze plank
just pure garbage on rings and belt (using them while leveling) over and over again
vernal finch
tier 7 int and tier 7 stun chance swadling glove..... i might use this lol
i usually die to DOT anyway even with 23% glove DOT, doesnt feel any difrence
vernal finch
.........
do u use rune creation on it and sell cheaper cause 0 forging? or u sell it raw? do people actually buy 0 forging?
eternal ridge
anybody can help me hmmm... so i have gotten a obsidian resonance between me and my 2nd acc. i wanna gift a 3LP item which i already did sanctum to fused with exalt stats that i bought from my 1st acc and i wanna gift it to my 2nd acc.... does it work?
vernal finch
i dont think u can gift item that u buy from bazzar
hardy loom
cant trade anything that has the tag "untradable" at the bottom of the item
sturdy summit
cant trade anything that has the tag "untradable" at the bottom of the item
gifting is not trading
sturdy summit
read it somewhere u can if u have obsidian resonance lol
I think it should work
hardy loom
gifting is not trading
🤔
eternal ridge
idk its not working for me i have never gifted before so i am not sure lol
vernal finch
nah doesnt work, allready tried gifting my friend item that i bought from bazzar
sturdy summit
idk its not working for me i have never gifted before so i am not sure lol
you have to be in a party together, and in the same zone
eternal ridge
i did put it in the same party and same map i have 2 pc
sturdy summit
I dunno, maybe it doesn't work if you buy it on bazaar, but I have been able to gift untradeable items I found
I'm in CoF, so items that drop all have untradeable on them
and never had a problem with gifting them
hardy loom
I'm in CoF, so items that drop all have untradeable on them
i learnt something
time to bot a 2nd char and gift stuff over
🙈
sturdy summit
🙉
eternal ridge
i just dont like to cramp all my build in 1 account lol
every game i play i make 2 account
eternal ridge
you have to be in a party together, and in the same zone
i am trying to do it now, doesnt work
sturdy summit
does it give you a reason?
eternal ridge
i am not familiar with the gifting interface but if im doing it right, it did not say anything when i drag the item to the giftbox
sturdy summit
what about the resonance?
eternal ridge
still in my char
eternal ridge
i already transferred in the material bag
eternal ridge
can i dm ya
eternal ridge
xD life saviour
sturdy summit
the issue was needing to use the player menu to give rather than the gift inventory
that's one that trips a lot of people up, I think. Totally not intuitive that you gotta use a different menu than the one that says Gifting :p
eternal ridge
its really misleading lol
sturdy summit
smoke weaver. crit multi, added melee phys damage, armor shred
hardy loom
oh cool
eternal ridge
back to farming on my frost claw lol
lucid ravine
so many ppl use frost claw why is that i am new mage
safe grail
frost claw is the best all around ability.
lucid ravine
oh k
sturdy summit
frost claw does everything. Its specialization tree is just really good, and it has synergy with other good abilities
it has good ward generation, mana regen, procs, damage, multiple hits
multiple casts
median hamlet
@sturdy summit hope u dont mind me rtagging u
sturdy summit
hi, what's up?
median hamlet
silk pewterBOT
median hamlet
is my ire sceptre good enough now? I kinda didn't luck out on the roll
RNGesus
i got the freeze multiplier
sturdy summit
It really hurts to not get spellslinger on that. How's your mana feel?
median hamlet
yeah the spell slinger it didnt roll 😦
mana feels good aside from bosses
but then with some bosses you spend time repositioning so ur never out
due to regen
what is best to put on my eye of forumus
sturdy summit
I made due without spellslinger on ire for a while. It's okay if you know how to play around it. But keep trying, because when you do hit that you'll be able to really supercharge your damage by taking the chaining nodes for FC
median hamlet
this build is easy to scale just need twisted heart
what are the chances of dropping an LP snowblind
sturdy summit
you'll definitely want a freeze rate multiplier on eyes
median hamlet
i have two amulets... issue is the other affixes are not that great
and its only one lp
sturdy summit
snowblind is a common with LPL 65. So 2 lp is rare, but possible
3LP is extremely rare
median hamlet
i had other drops with 5x unqie helemt from level 90 hearot
sturdy summit
anyone able to check how much 3lp snowblind is on the bazaar?
median hamlet
I am COF
vernal finch
snowblind is a common with LPL 65. So 2 lp is rare, but possible
Snow blind? Or u mean snow drift
sturdy summit
I mean snowblind. But did Earth mean snowdrift?
vernal finch
The shoes ?
sturdy summit
I think we're talking about the helmet
vernal finch
Oh I'm dumb
sturdy summit
it's not a core item, but it looks like a good item
sturdy summit
it means More Damage for frostbite
median hamlet
I should then have something well over 40% pen then
with over 1000% and most of it is from items
vernal finch
Can u like Perma freeze Oro with that build or something
median hamlet
Oro is a breeze before empowered
vernal finch
I mean freeze stun locked
sturdy summit
you have around 1400 FRM, which means 280% more damage
median hamlet
against heorot its not greatest though XD
sturdy summit
Heorot is immune to freeze
sturdy summit
I find him okay, but I use teleport
eternal ridge
Can u like Perma freeze Oro with that build or something
at 1k corrupt i dont think it can be perma freezed with default skill nodes and items. i think need some changes for 100% perma freeze. But im 80% freezing at this corrupt
sturdy summit
you're doing empowered, right?
median hamlet
i can start tommorow
median hamlet
two more level 90 left
sturdy summit
You get more xp from higher corruption, so you should do empowered even just for levelling faster.
don't wait
ashen turtle
Running the frostbite frostclaw and battling issues with either mana (can't get a good Sceptre with -5) so running a wand.... Or having issues with surviving can only get like 14k ward which I believe is tied to cast speed
sturdy summit
-4 is enough, btw
sturdy summit
Running the frostbite frostclaw and battling issues with either mana (can't get ...
14k ward at what corruption? 14k should be enough ward for you.
hardy loom
im assuming cuz build guides always uses frozen ire lol
median hamlet
the biggest problem is building favour
ashen turtle
Yeah but I need the Sceptre to have cast speed and at least the -4 with other useful stats
median hamlet
it takes a good hour to get enough to get some good prophecies
sturdy summit
you get a lot more favor at empowered, too
ashen turtle
I run with a buddy and he's up to 690
sturdy summit
corruption = xp = favor
hardy loom
Yeah but I need the Sceptre to have cast speed and at least the -4 with other us...
shouldnt be that hard to get -4, cast speed, freeze multi on a exalted sceptre tho
i find them decently enough on my cof char
sturdy summit
okay 690, 14k ward is going to be rough if you don't have perfect mechanics
ashen turtle
I'm cof
hardy loom
spam those propecies :p
ashen turtle
Only seen a handful of -4 and -5
median hamlet
runemaster is just my farming build
but idk when cycle will finish,this cycle had no mechanics
so i have no idea why they did cycle
hardy loom
and yeah like what philip said, high empowered = more favor and also running arena nodes = more favor cuz u kill more mobs
17/17 waves can give me 10k +
silk pewterBOT
sturdy summit
how much does your FC cost with wand?
hardy loom
rip ur passive skill tree ... so many things i can change
sturdy summit
both those idols are max roll mana eff, nice
drop mana shell, wisdom. get essense of clarity, chill to the bone
median hamlet
wait should i change all my idols
sturdy summit
Here's link to my planner right now
Don't use brand of deception. You have no lightning spell to proc it.
sturdy summit
yeah, you're right.
bronze plank
I bought my entire frostclaw build before even making the character
median hamlet
i made my build post leveling without guide
bronze plank
it's kinda driving me insane playing this many hours without being able to use so many pieces XD
median hamlet
it's kinda driving me insane playing this many hours without being able to use s...
yep
sturdy summit
this is me right now: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oz8zl3jQ
silk pewterBOT
median hamlet
but leveling is very boring
bronze plank
the progression curve for this game especially especially alts is just absolutely bonkers
hardy loom
i agree
sturdy summit
I can barely get myself to grind corruption already. I would never do it for an alt.
bronze plank
I'm level gated in being able to get 20 points ... because ... why?
hollow arrow
i might just sell that slammed jelkors i got phili
median hamlet
yeah the early level grind is crazy
hollow arrow
cant push myself to regrind the blessings and corr
bronze plank
so many aspects of this game are just head and shoulders above Diablo4 and even PoE in some regards ........ but so many design decisions are just paradoxically stupid
median hamlet
Grim dawn does this really well for where 500,000 gold u can speed level ur character to early late game in one hour
median hamlet
like Grim dawn has saviour tokens
bronze plank
like how did we manage to do so much right but get so many core things so egregiously wrong?
median hamlet
which gives u all ur required points
median hamlet
imo Grim Dawn is the best ARPG ever made
sturdy summit
I'm afraid from what the devs have said already, their idea of fixing it might be nerfing everything. You don't need to grind, because you'll never get above 500 corruption
ashen turtle
Don't use brand of deception. You have no lightning spell to proc it.
I'll check through ur build and compare and adjust where needed.... Thanks for the advice
hollow arrow
hmmmm how much could i sell a slammed jelkors for, +3 and -5 mana. t7 lightning, shred and crit multi
pretty much perfect for what it is
sturdy summit
that's a lot of zeros :D
median hamlet
but leveling this game is super slow
like its insane how long it takes to get to subclass
bronze plank
imo Grim Dawn is the best ARPG ever made
I think the only thing stopping me (on several occasions) from touching GD is that 1) afaik no loot filter 2) when I look at the steam page for it and see a page of the inventory/character screen I'm like "oh, no, I'm not doing this nonsense again"
hollow arrow
and if you 4lp some say to get stun so idk
bronze plank
I don't think I can go back to games with limited stash or not having autosort or search at this point
hollow arrow
i'll prolly just list it for 1.5 and get rid of it
bronze plank
that's probably the biggest thing LE did right - gave you basically infinite stash and searching your stash
hardy loom
yeah cuz it looks like a 2liner
imagine if its melee health on hit or shred, crazy stuff
sturdy summit
tbh, the autosort in this game is useless
median hamlet
I don't think I can go back to games with limited stash or not having autosort o...
GD uses GDstash. Its a bit of a pain but it also basically breaks the game
in like
hollow arrow
the only reason i used what i had was cuz it was both dropped at same area
allows me to sell it
lmao
sturdy summit
I sort a page of rings, and it doesn't even put all the rings of the same base next to each other.
median hamlet
with GDstash u can basically make some SUPER broken builds with 0 grind
because it basically can craft the perfect equipment
GD is made to be modded and basically adapted
imo the real GD is GD-DOM mod
easily 100000x better than POE
but grinding this game is a pain because the story isn't that great
It needs to be expanded a lot more
bronze plank
these games have a story?
median hamlet
grael?
sturdy summit
Yea
median hamlet
ngl it doesn't fit his character but Yulia simps for him
so makes sense
unironically they need to expand the story of the spriggan
sturdy summit
when we fight him, at the end he recognises us. "You! YOU! Why are you here!?"
median hamlet
from lightless arbor
like bro she is such a nice tree and she just dies
we should be allowed to plant her
sturdy summit
;_;
I think the last 3 chapters will expand on the ancient era, and we're going to discover why Eterra is gone.
maybe we'll get a chance to plant the spriggan there
maybe eterra is the Forgotten Knight who greats us at the End of Time
median hamlet
that makes sense
i havent done chapter 9
i got bored and did Monos
the chapter bosses are weak
aside from Lagon
Lagon is hard as hell
but he is a well designed boss imo
sturdy summit
whatshername Majasa is probably not as challenging a fight as Lagon, but she's fun.
and not someone you get to fight elsewhere
worth finishing just for that
bronze plank
but he is a well designed boss imo
As soon as they fix damage and visibility on boss moves and have proper telegraphing based on move type and severity type a lot of the boss fights conceptually are pretty interesting and not bad at all
but damage telegraphing in this game is so insanely skitzo
sturdy summit
As soon as they fix damage and visibility on boss moves and have proper telegrap...
lagon has all of these things
bronze plank
things that look like they should oneshot you are feather ticklers
bronze plank
he does, but the visuals don't really line up with what I'd personally expect the damage to be
a little bit of a head turn does not speak to me and say "ah yes, pressurewasher of death literally 1 tick KO"
sure I know it now and it's easy to avoid
median hamlet
lagon is a good fight
hardy loom
lagon is quite easy for me
median hamlet
julra is also very good
bronze plank
lagon is a good fight
I look at these things from a casual/newbie perspective when I think about if it's a good fight or not
sturdy summit
"still... so much... to learn!"
hardy loom
crazy ones are the spider , some shades variation lolol
median hamlet
I look at these things from a casual/newbie perspective when I think about if it...
i am an experinced arpg player
bronze plank
I think they could make one huge but also tiny change that'd make my criticism evaporate
median hamlet
If I am being killed by a boss I just have to figure out their mechanic
bronze plank
just make it so you don't have to redo the whole run to retry the fight
median hamlet
as long as its not something weird like damage reflect or mana burn
bronze plank
I don't really mind dying but all the content leading up to most of the dungeon boss fights are boring as crap
hardy loom
how about potion silenced debuff
sturdy summit
wow, I didn't realize you had to restart from the previous warp point
median hamlet
skill silence is rtoo op
bronze plank
imagine if you had a kinda potato player trying to learn lightless but every time he dies he has to rerun that whole boring garbage dungeon XD
median hamlet
GD had some good bosses
bronze plank
like oh my god would that be an absolutely misreable experience
bronze plank
PoE has so much to do so much to see so it never really mattered to me what the bosses were or how hard they were tbf
median hamlet
poe is too strict
bronze plank
you can have a 100% satisfying experience and even be gearing purely via SSF without ever touching a PoE boss <_<
sturdy summit
poe has had a decade to add stuff to do
it's not fair to compare anything to it
grim dawn has been around for a while, maybe that's a fair comparison
bronze plank
it's not fair to compare anything to it
I'm kinda split on if I agree or disagree with this XD
sturdy summit
I have purged blizzard from my mind. I don't even care if they make something good anymore.
and they don't, for that matter
median hamlet
diablo 4 seems like a bad arpg
bronze plank
on one hand like you're right realistically nothing is ever going to launch with the same amount of historical still existent content as a game that's been around as long as PoE
median hamlet
just from the mechanics of the game
bronze plank
but on the other hand like ... so what new games just get a free pass for X years to have no content even though they came into the market knowing they'd be competing with games that already had a while to simmer and have tons of content already?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sturdy summit
just cause it's not fair doesn't necessarily stop it from being true ;)
median hamlet
LE feels like its still very recent
endgame is basically smashing a good exalted with LP that u farm
its a shallow mechanic but its fun
bronze plank
LE is weird cause small company so they get a bit of a pass, but they also spent eternity in early access and TB was 100% right (RIP) when he said that when you launch in EA, that's it, you launched, that's your game, it's released.
sturdy summit
I think there is some extent to which I am willing to give games a pass like you said. X isn't going to be 10 years, of course.
median hamlet
its just more of how well it plays more than whats differnet
sturdy summit
there needs to be something that remains compelling after 600 hours
median hamlet
Like my standard will be GD because in GD I have to think about resistances, resistance shred, armour
sturdy summit
I came back to no man's sky after a few years and they cleaned up their mistakes and made a passable game.
in fact, it's been a few years since I played it last, and they've added a ton of new stuff, so it's time to check it out again.
median hamlet
this game feels like there isnt enough mechanics
but still its addictive
idk how to explain it
i think its the hunt for LP
hardy loom
if u enjoy arpg u enjoy LE its that simple prob
sturdy summit
the last ARPG I played was release d3, and I quit after like a month, never to return. ARPG isn't really my main game type. But Last Epoch threads the needle on what I enjoy.
bronze plank
I came back to no man's sky after a few years and they cleaned up their mistakes...
I was legitimately furious with NMS when it first game out, almost everything they advertised and promised was a lie ... it earned the name one man's lie
but my god was it a redemption arc
bronze plank
granted they're a whole company not just a single person but they've been giving NMS the same TLC and attention that dude gave SDV
median hamlet
I've heard it described as a western gacha game without scummy monetization
its very good, but the game is basically impossible to platy solo
like it only works in parrties
sturdy summit
granted they're a whole company not just a single person but they've been giving...
yeah, there are some bugs still that really frustrate me (like timers stopping randomly, or other inventory glitches), but they've turned things around that I'll give their next game a try.
median hamlet
and the progression in that game is extremely weird
like the mods etc it takes some serious skill to get it sorted at a high levle
learning how the game works is important
and how to work as a team
bronze plank
I tried to like warframe but it has the same issue as PoE has for me sometimes ... just too much going on too many weird features systems areas options all competing for my attention and if you're not hardcore serious about it ... it's just totally overwhelming
sturdy summit
my point in bringing up NMS however was how it's a game I keep coming back to as they add more stuff. I think that's how a game like LE can compete with an incumbant like PoE
bronze plank
but unlike PoE warframe didn't have a core gameplay loop along the way that really enthralled and was fun to me
median hamlet
I tried to like warframe but it has the same issue as PoE has for me sometimes ....
i felt that, i also got stuck on mastery lmao
bronze plank
I did enjoy warframe a bit bit just not enough to slog through all the weird systems and grinds and complexities
median hamlet
i hatre the mastery challenges
because it was a weird way to progress when i could do that same tghing in actual missions but not in the room
bronze plank
my point in bringing up NMS however was how it's a game I keep coming back to as...
Agreed - though I'm a bit pessimistic with LE ... mostly cause I'm feeling a bit left out in the cold on the lack of having a proper CM and the lack of active discourse
sturdy summit
Mike is trying, but community management's not his job
bronze plank
like for example there's no centralized bug/issue tracker and apparently it's too much to have someone acknowledge and confirm reports
which I get from a company/business/logistics perspective but
I'm not only reporting stuff cause I personally want it fixed, if I was I'd just be one of the petulant children going "THING BROKE FIX NAO"
sturdy summit
is that something PoE does? Acknowledge and confirm every report?
bronze plank
I'm also reporting it because I wanna help and because I know good reports make a difference
But like ... idk it feels kinda disrespectful to repeatedly waste your customer's time with guesswork around "do they already know? is it already confirmed? do they already have a fix ready to go on this? should I bother capturing video/screenshots to help them?"
bronze plank
is that something PoE does? Acknowledge and confirm every report?
I honestly have no clue XD
sturdy summit
is there a game you're thinking of that does this?
bronze plank
Generally speaking most games once report volume on something reaches a particular threshold you'll get someone that starts occasionally replying to new posts about that specific issue saying "Yep we've been seeing reports of this it's being worked on"
sturdy summit
I work in enterprise software, so I'm used to that being a thing, but not with games.
maybe it would be worthwhile suggesting they hire someone to do that.
bronze plank
I did actually post a big feedback post to their forums suggesting more or less exactly that
Of course there were no replies 😄
hollow arrow
welp lets see if anybody buys that dagger
sturdy summit
Satisfactory has a community manager that does a stream each week giving updates and stuff.
I guess Mike's stream is the equivalent of that, but Mike is a developer, not a community manager.
very different roles
bronze plank
Yar
Honestly I think even just one FTE doing the job of a CM focusing on giving the community a bit more engagement and updates on ongoing efforts would do the trick
If they've got a proper tracker/ticket system internally then it should be fairly easy for a competent analyst type role to be doing a bit of PM type work, a bit of CM type work, and scrape what they need information wise to be able to competently speak to a lot of central issues and topics when talking to players
And also free up technical resources to work on actual technical issues instead of dealing with stupid whiny humans XD
sturdy summit
yea
hardy loom
👀
split owl
@hardy loom is dragonaths good ?
it's doing great in leveling
wondering about endgame
hollow arrow
3x 2lp prismatic gazes
too bad they are 3% crit
could've been a good money maker right there
hardy loom
<@261791652685807617> is dragonaths good ?
wand ends up better, i can see the flat crit on drag doing well early
hollow arrow
had a couple 3lp items but nothing worth anything rip
hardy loom
damn gz
hollow arrow
still in lightless
yeah bonebruits aint worth anything
+10 stats go for 100k lmao
rip that
2lp 3% looks like about 200m
so 150 each and i can sell em quick
split owl
what are you farming for in lightless
hollow arrow
just gold lmao
gotta sell stuff
3lp thornshell aint worth nothing rip
and 3lp 2handed acolyte axe aint either rip
hollow arrow
yeah but it's all junk crap
cept the prismatic
i got like 4 diff 3lp items x3
but none worth anything lol
like give me lp3 x3 jungle belts
oh well, lets do like 3-5 more runs
hollow arrow
that rounds a bust
👀
2lp core of the mountain
wonder if that worth anything
oh nice 300-400
oh higher if attribute max lmao
bronze plank
I wish LP items were naturally higher end in terms of their roll values cause like
LP is worthless on a lot of items if there's crucial stats on it that are just potato bad
bronze plank
grats on your x4 0LP battlemage's endeavor
hollow arrow
lower roll on int
but still worth
dang 2lp jelkors
too bad it's not 3
time for another run
keep this roll going
split owl
@hardy loom mind to share ur rm planner?
hardy loom
<@261791652685807617> mind to share ur rm planner?
Yeba
Yeba4
split owl
anyone knows why my runes order is not cold - fire - cold as in bar setup but it's lightning/cold - fire - fire?
violet sedge
anyone doing disintegrate build?
minor wasp
anyone doing disintegrate build?
I was toying with the idea but standing still to DPS gets painfully slow pretty quick
errant plank
anyone doing disintegrate build?
@barren pawn is the cult leader as far as i know 😄
vernal finch
anyone know if theres build that use melee cold damage idol?
hardy loom
Something something spell blade probably
unborn hamlet
Spellblades, but the class is already bad enough, they don't have room to incorporate a bad build on top of it
vernal finch
so its not even BIS idol for spell blade?
class is rare and bad, and the build that use it not good?
ok ill just throw in bin then lol
does spell blade use frost claw at all?
hardy loom
bad > not meta > stuff they use is cheap
unborn hamlet
does spell blade use frost claw at all?
Indirect cast from shatter strike iirc
Which is like, 1 of the 2 good builds the spellblade has
But the idol is just not providing enough of a stat to be "good"
vernal finch
spark charge explosion area on enigma..... not very important right, only check for int?
there 3 ip enigma 13 int for 18m
hardy loom
wut so cheap
unborn hamlet
You can play all you want, pushing corruption is only a measure of how good the build is, and you don't have to care about it, I would say if you can do 300 you're okay, the increases to item rarity and boss drops are not that big
hardy loom
i bought mine for 30m ... 3 days ago
i wonder if banning is in progress so the gold hoarders are gone
vernal finch
i bought mine for 30m ... 3 days ago
how much is the area explosion charge
hardy loom
damn a full shift
hardy loom
how much is the area explosion charge
ive no idea
vernal finch
does it really matter
hardy loom
obv more the better but hmm
vernal finch
cause alot of people seeling 180 area for like 100-300m
even 200% sell like 500m lol wtf
hardy loom
ill always take the cheaper option as long the important dmg stats aren't too bad
vernal finch
i want 14 int but every thing that has 14 int cost like 100+
vernal finch
finding 3ip and good price laddle is hard..... even after find one slamming it near impossible
i got 2 brick
vernal finch
only to use it to fill resists
i mean laddle... weapon
hardy loom
oh laddle
cedar ocean
I quit after 7 tries or so on 3lp laddles
vernal finch
thats liek 25% ch ance
hardy loom
Got cast speed multi and dodge rating <:kappa:570776921554681905>
thats exactly what i got for my off-hand
xD
vernal finch
i finished my offand, unless i want 14 int ore more explosion area
vernal finch
Laddle has Stun chance <:kappa:570776921554681905>
this actually not so bad..... compared other
there some utuber suggesting increase stun instead of lightning pen
idk whats his thinking
bronze plank
This is random but reading about people doing slams gave me a weird thought <_<
strange flicker
2 most important stats
cedar ocean
Could do a lot more; but lazy haha
bronze plank
What if instead of LP as slots LP determined what % of the fodder item was on the new gear?
Then you wouldn't have to redo slams endlessly, LP would just be a representation of how strong your end result was
Cause I honestly hate the whole "the only progression past a certain point is to just endlessly gamble new slams cause most top end items can't even drop as 4lp"
well and even if they could they're so rare no one besides a few would ever have them
vernal finch
area explosion size
my explosion only 126/240 lol, basicly very bottom roll.......
vernal finch
well tbh i buy it 18m
lowest on the market
even 8 int cost like 20
does reduced damage from c rit capped at 100?
or u can go beyond 100?
strange flicker
yea
split owl
hmm, using dragonath's with T6 multi, T5 cast speed
but damage is not impressive at all
vernal finch
Cold is so much better then light version for my claw
how soo
hardy loom
frost claw > frost claw
grizzled olive
xD
safe grail
but damage is not impressive at all
It’s only impressive if you use the full sweep of the build
As in you are using drags claw to proc LB AND nova
grizzled olive
I wonder whats better...since i play a freeze build...100% more frostbite chance...Or 50% cold resistance penetration?
safe grail
AND you are close enough in range to get bounces of LB for closed circuit to proc
grizzled olive
what do u think is better?
split owl
It’s only impressive if you use the full sweep of the build
what's the core of the build?
i expected lagon fight (quest) would be fast but it's not
with dargonath and that unique offhand 0lp
safe grail
Dragorath’s is meant for a very specific setup. If you are just still in the campaign, I do not recommend playing the full drag’s build
It very much requires exact items to make it function properly and not feel like sht
hardy loom
i expected lagon fight (quest) would be fast but it's not
btw
no build will be as fast as jelkhors
just so u know
xD
expect to take time to kill boss
split owl
am not expecting it as strong as jelks
split owl
Dragorath’s is meant for a very specific setup. If you are just still in the cam...
as from my perspective the only diff is using LB with dragonath
safe grail
Yeah. I mean. It’s the primary difference but you do it to provide you buffs
split owl
and I assume having one more skill to proc would be dps buff?
safe grail
The problem is it eats mana
split owl
alright
safe grail
Yeah. I’m convinced that there’s only two ways to make dragorath’s work
1 way is a heavier dps build with less defensives
The other way is likely how puru currently builds which is using foot of the mountain (someone else in this discord did this early on too)
split owl
am just using that dagger cuz I got some good exatled bases
hardy loom
does more gaze = harder shades?
i actually have no idea about this
im at 8 gaze now
split owl
optimal is 2 gaze then do owo
barren pawn
anyone doing disintegrate build?
yo
vernal finch
so staying at 600s
why u need to stay at 600 for farming shackles
hardy loom
faster
i can push this back to 1k easily
but nah
didnt got me anything when i was farming relic
literally only lp1
twisted*
vernal finch
faster
uh.... didnt u get less timeline per node for clearing echo
so farming timeline in 600 is slower
so less boss
hardy loom
its not that much lesser
i can turn off brain as well
mobs barely do anything to me
dont have to convince me LOL i have multiple 1ks
vernal finch
ic
left tundra
uh.... didnt u get less timeline per node for clearing echo
stability caps at some point it doesn't infinitly scale
hardy loom
im like 60 + 200 now
vernal finch
stability caps at some point it doesn't infinitly scale
oh i didnt know that
thought it was scale based corruption infinite
vernal finch
favor and xp scale infinitly
yeah thats a thing also more favor, i awalys run out of favor even at 1700
left tundra
farming favor you don't want to be as high as possible either though
hardy loom
bruh someone just got 5 identical third eye ring
left tundra
you want to be where your 1-2 shotting mobs
hardy loom
lucky ass
left tundra
because for favor farming you care about favor per hour not favor per mob
hardy loom
i can near oneshot if i push to my max but uhh the occurance of randomly dying to one shot justs gets higher as well
:p
left tundra
yeah it's just something that varies build to build where the farming sweet spot is
hardy loom
yup
i think being able to play with just my mouse and 1 side button on the mouse is really comfortable
safe grail
<@177205113046302720> how much u put for
225m atm, but someone else undercut me to 180m
safe grail
i mean i had only undercut 5m fro mthe person closest to me last night
this person just like
yeeted 45m undercut lmao
vernal finch
yeeted 45m undercut lmao
how much t7 claw now
safe grail
lowest is 180m
left tundra
my 4 FC relic hasnt sold yet
already have one slammed?
safe grail
then mine is 225m
safe grail
already have one slammed?
yeh i got a 3 FC already. dont need the 4
vernal finch
maybe dupe it and sell 150
hardy loom
people getting poorer
safe grail
i dont have any creations
or i wouldve.
hmmm
maybe i send some arbor rq
and just yeet runes
strange flicker
for some reason twisted still so freaking high
i wish our mage relic wasnt so dog
str8 up useless stats
vernal finch
never got any luck with unique on arbor, so i dont bother to take them at all, just skip all the way, only take exalt
strange flicker
LOL
hardy loom
ive been farming dragon for ages only 1LP max i found
how can it ever be cheap like that
ðŸ˜
safe grail
40-64% armor, cast speed, HP, skills, ward gen
ooo
i managed to sell the prefix and put int onto this relic
5 FP left
def gonna hold it to dupe
lol
vernal finch
4% prismatic gaze 1 LP used to be sold out in like 1 min for 15m
yesterday i saw 4% 2.5
left tundra
ive been farming dragon for ages only 1LP max i found
i've only ever seen 2lp twice with like 400 hours this season
vernal finch
no one buys for like 1h
left tundra
boss lp item drive me crazy
safe grail
and no plans for COF modifiers to touch boss items is tone deaf af lmao
hardy loom
its perfectly fine 
abstract bramble
Idk how many lp2 heart I looted
vapid forge
for the devastator node for runebolt it says it explodes when hitting an enemy but it doesnt is this a bug
safe grail
do you have the pierce node?
vapid forge
oh does that make it not explode on contact?
barren pawn
favor and xp scale infinitly
favor does not scale infinitely.
It has a cap of 999999
left tundra
favor does not scale infinitely.
we're talking about gains there buddy
and it scales infinitely with corr
barren pawn
Word your 💩 better next time then " buddy "
left tundra
don't try to nit pick a convo you're not apart of the people who were involved knew what was being talked about
and that's what matters
vapid forge
dang mages b hardcore
left tundra
mages are kind of a vibe for sure
vapid forge
what does the cast speed in the runeslinger node on RI refer to?
left tundra
i just fked my fp from 1 and the despair-ed worked at 4
that's the worst feeling
safe grail
that's a v solid slam for sure
hardy loom
the other was 40% cold res and 17% ms