2-3 min lol
#π§βmage
strange flicker
yes cheese is the way
i already have 2 different ways to cheese
incase they nerf this cheese
hardy loom
im gonna have to do that soon
strange flicker
am all loaded up
vernal finch
but i fail it sometimes, cause 1 sec late, he just shoot small fast meteor from his head, and im dead
hardy loom
i cant see sht on my screen anyways
strange flicker
i mean at higher corr its not worth fighting it
vernal finch
need to timed it perfectly in begining, too fast it doesnt hit, too late it will unleash hell
strange flicker
its not even about killing it
u kill it w 0 gaze
u aint climbing sht
LOL
gonna be battle of the ages just to get +10 corruption
hardy loom
hmmm
im still building my one shot setup on jelkhors lul
should be cheap to do the freeze π§ right
vernal finch
wow i managed to get new amulet, removal rune works 2 times, and get all 3 tier 5 stat, with just 35 forging potential
hardy loom
crazy
safe grail
aight i got a bit of time before i logon to work
lets go for slams 8 & 9 and brick again π
vernal finch
lets go for slams 8 & 9 and brick again π
my relic takes me about 18 slam........ 12 from tier 5 frost claw though...... only 6 tier 6, even 3 of them are rune creation
safe grail
i hit relic on #12
safe grail
my first 4 were CoF lmao
vernal finch
lol
safe grail
i have NOT had the greatest luck because i got some solid drops v early.
vernal finch
how much u buy each
safe grail
uh they werel ike 30-40?
the t7s i found myself in julra runs
of those 12, i found like
the 3 t7s, and maybe half the t6s?
again icredibly lucky w/ drops
slams not so much
think my best slam so far has been
3 LP ladle
hardy loom
damn
safe grail
R1 rng right there
hardy loom
me: dropping red ring, selling during the mg mess for 700m, bought 2 red ring for total 40m
safe grail
lmao i sold 2 LP suloron's the morning all that was going on for 1b
do i wish i wouldve found and sold more? maybe
but
even with all the gold in the world, still need the items to exist on the market anyways
vernal finch
suloron whats that for?
hardy loom
gives insane melee crit multiplier
safe grail
yeah insane melee crit multi. 2 LP is very rare as it is
hardy loom
melee version of frostmourne boots
safe grail
but at the time there were none up on the bazaar (i learned about the gold exploit 10 mins later after they sold for 1b lmao)
vernal finch
gives insane melee crit multiplier
what gear is that weapon?
hardy loom
boots
vernal finch
i tried static armor, man i lose like 350% lightning damage from stats, and lost all skill points
does this armor really worth
hardy loom
how do u have 350% from armor alone
vernal finch
cause my armor have like maxed ele damage
max mana
and 4 lighting damage 300 mana
lost all that
safe grail
you can only go static shell
if you have other compensating items
like the second i got my 3 FC heart, i stopped using unstable
and ive been using an int/crit multi chest
vernal finch
kill time doesnt really drop noticeable though
but i figure since i need to shock them to get the armor.... whiel they are dead anyway on first hit
vernal finch
3 stat from runic, 3 stat from ele nova, and all 1 lost, im still tuning what should i remove
if i havent die after 3 orb then its worth i guess
cedar ocean
I just realized you can have 35 points in ele nova
safe grail
OMG
#8 HIT
LETS GO
17 int + hybrid armor/crit avoid
jfcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
cedar ocean
Gratssssss
I got my +3fc relic and int+lightning multi on armor first try both
Luck was with me this cycle haha
safe grail
yeah
it just be like that sometimes lol
real nice part is near capping my crit avoid w/ the high armor now too
should be tanky enough to never think about it again
cedar ocean
Definitely π
strange flicker
gz
vernal finch
17 int + hybrid armor/crit avoid
17 int? Is that tier 7 but min roll ?
vernal finch
i never get that glyph work, that thing that rolls affix stat
it only change one affix at a time
and it said roll all affix stat
does the description bugged?
i swear it only roll 1 out 4 affix, not all 4 as description said
strange flicker
glyph of chaos?
safe grail
it rolls all 4
but rolling all 4 includes current rolls
it doesn't always make them better or worse.
safe grail
you're just unlucky like me then
stiff crown
Just bad lunch
safe grail
lol
vernal finch
unlucky then
stiff crown
Luck
safe grail
#skillissue
stiff crown
This
vernal finch
my only compalin this game was we should be able to empty LP, so missed slam, but can remove it
im too scared to slam 3 LP, cause my t7 might not get in there
lol
like i slam c heap 10m LP 3 times and fail to get the t7
safe grail
i mean as an inverse to that, we should also never get 0 LP items.
0 LP is the same as 1 LP
vernal finch
imagine buying 1b item and failed slam
stiff crown
Convert my 0LP red ring to LP1
vernal finch
that also work
npc that give LP
just farm item required
even it was hard atleast its guaranteed
pale cedar
im too scared to slam 3 LP, cause my t7 might not get in there
True. I found a 4 lp ring and im too scared to slam stuff into it too because what if i I find a better ring to slam into it later π Even if it costs something, clearing the slots would be great
digital musk
I used to be like that in beta and my legacy stash is full of very nice unslammed things I'll prob never use
Enjoy the item if you got something usable imo
vernal finch
Enjoy the item if you got something usable imo
this only works for like COF
for MG u always feel bad if u upgrade from similiar but higher stat item
pale cedar
I used to be like that in beta and my legacy stash is full of very nice unslamme...
ya its too late though, i slammed my item into a 3 lp sunwreathe instead and havent found a good ring since haha
digital musk
If you're MG you can just buy both things again tho if that situation happens right
Unless the item is truly a unicorn I guess
pale cedar
this only works for like COF
Yeah im CoF, but tbh will probably go MG next season... finding everything myself isnt as fun as i thought ;_;
vernal finch
3 LP meta item usually cost 300-1000m gold
carmine seal
at least you have the chance to get it again, unlike CoF π
digital musk
3lp meta item does not exist in cof
pale cedar
I mean for CoF if you hit level 10, you can get a free duplicate if its from a prophecy. So you cant really complain imo
digital musk
I'd just slam it lmao
I mean I'm cof too and have some wild stuff
I know it's less than MG would have but idc
pale cedar
ya i find cool items in CoF, it just takes too much time to farm what i actually need
plus it feels kind of bad that a bunch of cool items just rot in my stash
left tundra
I know it's less than MG would have but idc
it's more cool stuff it's less specific stuff
pale cedar
I think CoF would be way more fun if you had a friend group you played with that was all CoF
that way you can just gift each other certain items
digital musk
Add something to tweak boss specific drops and I'm content enough
Its just free loot compared to the usual ssf I'd do anyway
carmine seal
CoF is probably great for the "broken" builds that work very well with just the barebone items. If u play a weaker build you're probably better off in mg, as the non-meta stuff are probably way cheaper. Like i've spent like 300k favor in wand prophecies this weekend, trying to get a lp2+ cinder song. I had a stash full of lp1s at the end of the weekend and pretty much gave up on it
digital musk
I took a physical chakram rogue to 1k on cof so I will disagree with that
Ok I agree that it would've been easier on MG but everything always will be
digital musk
Real
unborn hamlet
and i say that as someone who spent 2,5mil favor on sceptre prophecies and never dropped a 3LP frozen ire yet
you either get the item or u dont its that simple
left tundra
for sure
i've dumped like 3m favor into red rings gotten 8 1lps bricked them all
it is what it is
strange flicker
havnt seen a single red ring
let alone used my favor as mg
its stuck there at 999999 for weeks
strange flicker
owned
unborn hamlet
i didnt drop a red ring yet myself funilly enough, and i spent A LOT of favor on rings getting my Ocearon slammed
vernal finch
bought 3m red ring that someone set wrongly
LOL
i got frost claw +3 before for 300k
hardy loom
π
vernal finch
but failed the slam anyway so doesnt matter
vernal finch
my relic was done after my last gold
about to retired from this game
my last 50m
buy frost claw 30
and succed
that was on mid march
how much was red ring on first 2 week of cycle
i saw it was 10m lowest i see, i wonder if first week was even lower
vernal finch
i imagine it will go lower and lower now that everyone has it allready
split yacht
which stats are the most important on the static shell, the chance to chock and ig how much armor u get against shocked enemies or are the others also important?
safe grail
armor and dmg
safe grail
reread the chance to shcok again
it's vs. attackers
as in
they need to hit yo uto get shocked
split yacht
ah lol
safe grail
lol
stiff crown
You wa shock
full bluff
Anyone have a link to a good planner for a frostbite frostclaw runemaster, going to work a bit on mine and need some inspiration.
stiff crown
πΈ
safe grail
(as in the shock vs. attackers that it rolls)
robust gorge
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sturdy summit
Anyone have a link to a good planner for a frostbite frostclaw runemaster, going...
There's the guide I wrote: https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/frostbite-frostclaw-with-teleport---introductory-runemaster
silk pewterBOT
unborn hamlet
i tried to get the runic jump
it just doesnt feel good bro
i need that flame ward
sturdy summit
flame ward instead of runic jump?
sturdy summit
oh yeah. That's definitely a personal preference choice
full bluff
There's the guide I wrote: https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/frostbite...
Thanks, the list of gear options is great for what I need now π
sturdy summit
I need to revise some of the gear suggestions I made. Was maybe a bit too overeager to add stuff.
unborn hamlet
despec 3pts from artors and 1 from shiver shell
get glamdrill cold star on trough the snow ever onward and crack in the ice
full bluff
I need to revise some of the gear suggestions I made. Was maybe a bit too overea...
I have lots of 3lp snowblinds, so going to try that
unborn hamlet
DPS and Freeze will go brrrrrrrrrr
sturdy summit
nice
unborn hamlet
@sturdy summit is the runic movement based on your mouse location
or based on where the character is facing
sturdy summit
mouse location
unborn hamlet
yea so
the warmage initiative is a completly wasted point
stride to safety already achieves the same thing, just gotta place ur mouse in the other direction from where u want to go
unborn hamlet
so you can save 3 points and get transcribe of power instead
for over all more DPS
and cast speed
π
sturdy summit
I don't think it's completely wasted, but if you are willing to do the extra mouse work, you could skip that one
lilac tulip
Any rune master build for HC ? something with high sustain.
unborn hamlet
Any rune master build for HC ? something with high sustain.
just kneel over in Lagon fight and play normally
safe grail
Any rune master build for HC ? something with high sustain.
just play a meta build.
sturdy summit
yeah, any meta build for RM has good sustain
lilac tulip
just kneel over in Lagon fight and play normally
No, I am used to healing hands sentinel build
unborn hamlet
u will never achieve what healing hands ward build can do on RM
at best u could probably do 50k ward with top of the line bis gear
lilac tulip
What's the closest thing to that guy
strange flicker
u wont even be getting 50k ever outside of bosses that dont attack back
aka dragon the dps dummy boss
unborn hamlet
aka dragon the dps dummy boss
my favorite boss
only if he wanted to give me that 2LP heart
sturdy summit
dragon and lich, my two favorite bosses, because they're both completely blind
unborn hamlet
the worst boss in this game has to be the 3 fire shamans
like even if u kill one they will keep spamming BS at u
safe grail
absolutely true
unborn hamlet
they are so tanky for no reason as well
@safe grail bruh look at the helmet some dude just posted in item showcase
digusting i want it
unborn hamlet
but all that extra spell dmg for free
safe grail
yayayaya
grand karma
For those of you who use frost claw to proc elemental nova. Have you had better experience/more fun with the frostbite variant or the electric variant?
sturdy summit
For those of you who use frost claw to proc elemental nova. Have you had better ...
depends how geared you are.
digital musk
the worst boss in this game has to be the 3 fire shamans
I pushed this timeline actually and I love the fight now
Getting all 3 low and using a kill threshold ability is just π
Also nice that everything is easily outlined and it feels very fair to dodge everything
grand karma
depends how geared you are.
I mean I've been working towards frostbite now, so I have all the uniques for the fb and most for the electric one. It's just so far I enjoy the massive aoe of the electric, though the survivability of the frostclaw one is very good even I'd its a tad boring
safe grail
Wow nice
hardy loom
but i have to take out lightning shred and use mana blessing
@safe grail what u think
safe grail
im assuming to get over 300 mana?
hardy loom
yeah
hardy loom
holy double mana idols cost so much
strange flicker
just dont worry about getting the 300 mana for now
the dmg increase isnt even that much
get eventually
strange flicker
yeah w julras and idols u can
hardy loom
static is 24int + t5 armor
safe grail
that's what im saying like
strange flicker
static is huge survivabiltiy boost too
safe grail
300 mana is a very end game min max
full bluff
I have 3500 freeze rate now. Not using Frozen Ire, are there any other reasons to Frozen ire / scepter than the freeze and -5 mana cost?
hardy loom
haha
safe grail
it's not an early focus.
hardy loom
i dont have much to improve alr
strange flicker
for frostbite?
hardy loom
rest is giga expensive to improve
full bluff
yes
safe grail
i mean
full bluff
frosbite fcrost claw
strange flicker
its just to avoid having to spec for mana regen from belt
safe grail
you said you only have 1 mana eff idol
strange flicker
imo ladle is better
safe grail
that's a huge improvement to make
strange flicker
but w ladle u will have mana issue w/o pots/experimental belt
safe grail
if you just got static shell, you might have other pieces to slam before you look at 300 mana
hardy loom
silk pewterBOT
hardy loom
idk just looking to hit lightning dmg, armor , cold res
safe grail
will likely push you to 300
median hamlet
silk pewterBOT
median hamlet
thoughts?
hardy loom
like traversal or osmething
i have that, but its like min armor roll and t6 lightning dmg
safe grail
but also tbch
you should probably look for
t6/t7 cdr
over the dmg
you have enough dmg
hardy loom
is it a big deal π€
safe grail
that's just my opinion tho
median hamlet
which rare relic do i get? Vial of Ice or Twisted heart?
hardy loom
i do have that t7 cdr strands π
safe grail
said he didnt wanna use the unique lol
strange flicker
probably barely 5%
barren pawn
im never replacing ym strawnd lmao
barren pawn
near max mana spent = ward
safe grail
w/ mana implicit and t6 lightning + CDR and hybrid avoid
barren pawn
id replace ith with a SLAMMED TO HELL variant
but othe than that its perma slotte dcause of build
barren pawn
yeye
barren pawn
FC can get away with not having
barren pawn
I am dis build tho
safe grail
yep
strange flicker
i would prob take over strand
safe grail
agreed
strange flicker
cause thats insane armor w static shell+ inferno
hardy loom
that dmg increase is probably not even 10%
oh that low?
strange flicker
am already at like
barren pawn
Insane
barren pawn
meanwhile all my DR comes from skills
hardy loom
silk pewterBOT
strange flicker
yeah the increased dmg stat really isnt anywhere as much as u would think when u math it out
since u already have a decent amt
hardy loom
my armor looking really juicy
hardy loom
yeah the increased dmg stat really isnt anywhere as much as u would think when u...
icic
hardy loom
yep LOL
strange flicker
LOL
safe grail
hahahahaha
strange flicker
atleast he got his armor LOL
barren pawn
red ring is massiv bait and is relly only good for turbo int stackers and int / dex hybrids
strange flicker
only useful if ur scuffed with resistance possibly and even then i wouldnt get more than 1 at most
hardy loom
i would need to use 2 julra rings to hit 300
barren pawn
yall seen my julras?
safe grail
red ring solves a lot of resists for me atm
strange flicker
even int stackers
unborn hamlet
as well as tons of mana
strange flicker
the julra proc is insane
safe grail
so i am using julra + RR
strange flicker
like the only value it can add is if ur
unborn hamlet
consider strong mind necklace, its a very underrated item that is not hard to get on 4LP
barren pawn
silk pewterBOT
strange flicker
so u can get away with abit more
barren pawn
the slam on this made me MMM
strange flicker
but even then imo the burst u get from julra is nuts
unborn hamlet
it has a lot of flat mana, gives flat lightning dmg, and gives u free stun avoidance based on ur mana
4LP and ur set
perfect necklace for spark charge
barren pawn
int / crit slammed onto the only 2lp julras i have ever owned
hardy loom
it has a lot of flat mana, gives flat lightning dmg, and gives u free stun avoid...
is this propaganda
safe grail
3 LP nb in terms of price
hardy loom
im checking it out
safe grail
strong mind that is
median hamlet
cdr is probably the best stat u can get
i just blew something with CDR up
digital musk
how to get 300 without mana blessing
Orians eye
unborn hamlet
Orians is trolling
strange flicker
also u can get the mana gloves
median hamlet
how do i get better blessings? the ones I have now are just % to find items
strange flicker
urs are not that good anyways
unborn hamlet
is this propaganda
yes im trying to spread awarness of strong mind actually being a good cheap easy to get with high LP unique especially for the mage classes
hardy loom
LOL
hardy loom
Orians eye
thats expensive stuff
strange flicker
i'll have u know
i have a 4lp spriggan necklace
w 63 mana
that i used to use before
hardy loom
barren pawn
wat is strong mind
hardy loom
actual solutions
barren pawn
show me
digital musk
Potential 150 mana, less dmg over time, insane void and fire Dr
strange flicker
unique neck w mana
digital musk
Trolling?
unborn hamlet
check my planner, lemme grab it
digital musk
What
barren pawn
OOOOOO the one with mana as stun avoidaNCE?
safe grail
ye
unborn hamlet
silk pewterBOT
barren pawn
yeh its pgood standin for super cheap if you slam
hardy loom
π
barren pawn
for me its my peak, exsang, and the foot thats in my stash
strange flicker
a 3lp twisted would be nice
barren pawn
peaks universal for me
strange flicker
unborn hamlet
true, like all my items are pretty much best outcomes
except snowdrifts
missed that sweet haste
gotta try again
barren pawn
same here kinda except my ammy and offhand'
unborn hamlet
ive been either trying to get new snowdrifts slammed or a perfect cuckoo, and we all know that doesnt exist
the only one that was good for my build instantly bricked
hardy loom
then again im only losing 72% lightning dmg for the 2 grand glass idol (20% and 16% doubled)
suuurely its fine
unborn hamlet
the lightning dmg isnt even that big of a deal
crit multi and flat spell dmg is more important
hardy loom
i have 473% on my previous set up π€
hardy loom
im getting persuaded this is bad
unborn hamlet
u seen the light, now u cant go back
safe grail
esp cause i was looking to do Katt's chain reaction build
where strong mind would be NUTS
so
yeh
sht even a low end 4 LP is only 350m lol
unborn hamlet
anything with 3 flat +50mana is good
safe grail
ye
strongmind v busted on sorc in fact
cause that extra flat gets added to sorc's passive flat
then everything else
unborn hamlet
the strong mind revolution shall take LE by storm
safe grail
it's juiced lol
safe grail
i only run shred on ladle
no where else atm
still get like
good amount of stacks quick
hardy loom
how about lightning pen
strange flicker
crit still better prob
strange flicker
what about spell damage
hardy loom
72
safe grail
yeah i wanted to go crit chance on my neck
but
sitting 50% w/ gaze atm
prolly just gonna rip crit multi on the neck
if i can get both, then so be it
hardy loom
but but what if i slam mana on it too
mana + spell crit + shred
take out all my mana idols
joever
safe grail
waste of mod imo
hardy loom
time to slap julra ass
safe grail
prayge we hit this
barren pawn
https://imgur.com/EZF19Ix
prayge we hit this
it will go
safe grail
im tempted to sell it lmfao
like
this thing crafted nutty
like the refine hit so perf
sht wait. lemme see what this is worth
LMAO
barren pawn
Gift it to me
safe grail
no
barren pawn
Not even as repayment for all the theory help?
π
Ex doesnt love me anymore
π
I kid i kid
ammys probs worth a good 400m
safe grail
uh
try upwards of 1.2
LMAO
i didnt realize
what i crafted
LMAO
til i saw 58% crit multi t7 and im like W8
hardy loom
safe grail
i mean the res are whatever
sucks it doesnt have shred
but
near max spell crit and max crit multi
unborn hamlet
average market player
safe grail
haha
barren pawn
anyone that pays 1.2 for that is a fool imo
unborn hamlet
i drop 7 of these out of my pocket every minute meanwhile MG players paying 1B for literal garbage
safe grail
lmfao
barren pawn
slamming that on a 4lp is a complete waste, slammin it on a 2lp = whiff city
barren pawn
i drop 7 of these out of my pocket every minute meanwhile MG players paying 1B f...
I mean good on you for having good rng
hardy loom
rip my crit wasnt added
barren pawn
I dont like rng because i play BDO. So ill pay to skip it
unborn hamlet
MG players dont know how good it feels to drop an exalt from nearly every rare monster , or multiple, or 100+ from a prophecy
safe grail
MG players dont know how good it feels to drop an exalt from nearly every rare m...
I just love seeing purple beams w/ no items on the ground
kek
unborn hamlet
sometimes there is so many items the screen cant even show them all
barren pawn
I just love seeing purple beams w/ no items on the ground
kek
unborn hamlet
well if ur filtering for such specific things then yeah
barren pawn
this mono boss just summoned like 30 zombies and almost ddosed me into a death
corpse emp?
unborn hamlet
but seeing MG players pay hundreds of milions for literal trash
i would pick up everything
π
barren pawn
we dont pay hundreds for trash
hundreds = atleast one good t7 affix
minimum
OOOO THAT REMINDS ME
@safe grail
safe grail
hm
barren pawn
Some absolute fekkin IDIOTA posted a failed 4lp slam ladle for 20m last night
guess the stats
( by failed i mean they slammed bad item )
safe grail
do tell
barren pawn
hold i think i have it saved somewhere
safe grail
but seeing MG players pay hundreds of milions for literal trash
gotta understand that ppl will just always pay a premium for slammable donor items lmfao
cause ppl like to play the market vs the game
safe grail
TRUE
safe grail
holy hell
barren pawn
in other words, slammed 3/4 on a 4lp
sturdy summit
go play real life stock market instead
people who work for the real life stock market aren't allowed to
barren pawn
listed for 20m
safe grail
people who work for the real life stock market aren't allowed to
i am also not allowed to in my current job. w/o disclosing EVERY move and i cannot sell anything unless i hold it for 30 days.
barren pawn
methinks they got angry
safe grail
so yeah. stock market gay.
safe grail
methinks they got angry
probably.
barren pawn
stock market mega gae
sturdy summit
i am also not allowed to in my current job. w/o disclosing EVERY move and i cann...
or even trade in any security that your firm has in their universe, right?
strange flicker
probably a ragequit
how do u even mess that up
LOL
prob slammed wrong item on accident
and slammed his table w dat
cedar ocean
Kyo mind sharing a planner for Desintegrate build pls?
safe grail
or even trade in any security that your firm has in their universe, right?
i can trade them, but i have to use in-house brokers and report EVERY trade.
even my 401k is heavily monitored.
barren pawn
cant be wrong item cause it had t7 crit mult t7 cast speed
hardy loom
wtf
silk pewterBOT
unborn hamlet
Kek no
hardy loom
lmao
unborn hamlet
Keep this disintegrate propaganda out of here
barren pawn
I mean its hella fun, capable of taking a half decent player to 800 corr, and doesnt require all that much to make work
its very beginner friendly
hardy loom
disint just feels like standing still and whipping out ur.... and slapping mobs
barren pawn
I mean dont you stand still for you rbuild and only move with runic invos traversal node puru?
or was that one of our other turbo nerd pushers
cedar ocean
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWVYGaEA
Grazie
stiff crown
He's trolling
barren pawn
eith ping or dm
stiff crown
πΈ
vernal finch
damn red ring only 10m now eh, the low stat one
cedar ocean
npnp, im here for questions
How far have you pushed with this?
safe grail
haha mine hit frailty.
barren pawn
How far have you pushed with this?
its gone to 800
safe grail
i chaos'd into it and was trying for shred
cedar ocean
its gone to 800
Ohh nice nice
barren pawn
haha mine hit frailty.
split yacht
could shattered chains be smth for runemaster when u go more defense anyways with static and stacking armor since u can get a bunch of % armor or what was the armor cap, might even reach it without it so it would be prob worse than strands of souls then
hardy loom
ward retention
strange flicker
no point going shattered when u can just go the exalted belt tbh
split yacht
its red if u get an affix onto it :p
strange flicker
or 4 lp legacy of the quiet forest
split yacht
actually the forest belt has some nice stats or is the ward retention that good from strands of souls and if u get some more ward from mana spent
strange flicker
u can actually also just get the weavers belt
if theres some that already got t7 cdr and some other stats
whole moat
Is there a way to make flame reave as good as shatter strike? Or is the scaling not there?
whole moat
Shucks, i already got one sunwreath and Jaspers and was feeling a lil inspired to try it out
shadow sun
I'm thinking of shifting my flame reave character to shatter strike
solar leaf
i really want spellblade to work but to me dual-wielding is part of the fantasy and compared to jelk mm it feels so bad
hardy loom
every class gonna feel bad if u compare it to jelk mm
abstract bramble
Light mm is bad compared to old flame wraith
shell fern
Shucks, i already got one sunwreath and Jaspers and was feeling a lil inspired t...
jaspers is super janky, if u could get melee attack speed on staffs then it could be decent.
shell fern
flame reave is okay, if you want to go for flame reave build your best bet is to build bulwark of the last abyss and crystal sword or eye of reen
whole moat
Thats unfortunate
shell fern
i mean you can still play it if you really want, the playstyle just feels kinda slow. i was doing ok at 300c with jaspers but sword+shield just feels so much better.
whole moat
Thats the reason i like shatter, its fast and zoomerz
robust gorge
What's the closest thing to that guy
self cast frost claw might be the best HC runemaster build. as for which variant is best i don't know. i think in theory dragorath crit claw + lb + nova is the best high end version, but dot is very nice for early game, and ladle crit claw + nova + frostwall seems to be the goto for mid budget
i played mana strike for number 1, it is really good but it is at least two tiers below any version of self cast frost claw in power lol
lilac tulip
self cast frost claw might be the best HC runemaster build. as for which variant...
Do you have a YouTube video or planner for your build. This is my first mage build since version 1 release and I don't even know what the frost claw skill looks like
lilac tulip
i played mana strike for number 1, it is really good but it is at least two tier...
Also, thank you
full bluff
What you guys think about using static shell on frostbite frostclaw build, for armor?
robust gorge
this is my current character, i don't have a proper guide for my variant yet but i will probably make a planner for a more SSF-viable version https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AL9j3ZWQ
silk pewterBOT
robust gorge
if you give me a bit ill make a more easily farmable variant
actually ill just say to not play mana strike lol, self cast frost claw is just better in every way almost
mana strike frost claw trigger was fun though but if i were to play a char fresh knowing what i know now i would just play frost claw
hardy loom
What you guys think about using static shell on frostbite frostclaw build, for a...
dont think its necessary imo, cuz u gonna freeze mobs anyway, normal setup with shackles and armor belt should be plenty tanky π€
robust gorge
you could probably do 2k corruption without dying on that version on the same level of gear
i would cap out around 1.3k without major upgrades as mana strike
errant plank
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWVYGaEA
Is it your latest version? I add one with some leech on lightning damage...
barren pawn
Is it your latest version? I add one with some leech on lightning damage...
ye should b
errant plank
here is my current build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o310ja7Q
silk pewterBOT
robust gorge
what i want to figure out is if any pure runic invocation based builds can compete with the amount of defense you can get by going frost claw lol
lilac tulip
mana strike frost claw trigger was fun though but if i were to play a char fresh...
Which one has more sustain ?
errant plank
ye should b
The latest one i had from you was: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A1Gd9eaB
silk pewterBOT
robust gorge
self cast has more sustain and more damage i think
lilac tulip
self cast has more sustain and more damage i think
Ok thank you. Lastly, If I am not using mana strike as a 5th skill should I pick flameward as a skill ?
robust gorge
not necessarily, for as good as flame ward is, Reowyn's Frostguard (Cold Fire Cold invocation) has 100% uptime (and automation with flame rush) so i wound up prefering that to having flame ward as an "oh, shi" button
on the other hand, if you have insane CDR, then flame ward + another buff can wind up outperforming
sturdy summit
frostguard and flame ward stack, so I use both
There are a lot of situations where I can predict that I might get hit
so I use it preemptively in those situations
robust gorge
i use unspecced flame ward too
i was just talking about in terms of speccing
flame ward unspecced is worth using if you have the bar space
i just prefer not to spec flame ward without high CDR investment
full bluff
I am using fire wall for brand with frostbite fc, not sure it is worth it, taking a slot and not having flame ward
muted flume
hey so runemaster friends - i wanna try to make a big onehit boom build with runic invocation and greater fireball, always loved that skill
firestarters torch seems perfect for it cause more damage multiplier to mobs affected by spreading flames
but missing out on massive potential flat damage - thoughts?
it also fits in well with the fundamental criterion, sceptre giving 33% more damage to the invocation
errant plank
ye should b
What would you suggest to improve build rn? Should i start doing some slaming? what corrupt should i farm at in your opinion?
full bluff
Frostbite is fun to play again π
hollow arrow
hmmmm farm formoses or emperor
errant plank
formoses or emperor? What is that? uniques ?
full bluff
I do both now π
robust gorge
but missing out on massive potential flat damage - thoughts?
i was thinking about this but i question how high the scaling of Spreading Flames can go. It can scale up high enough to let you take a level 15 straight into monolith with some twink gear but it falls off on its own after a while and you have to scale ignites anyway.
robust gorge
hmmmm farm formoses or emperor
LP last steps and gloves are consistent money makers in BFD. ROD just has twisted heart, right?
both timelines have good unique echo reward, ROD has easier mobs
robust gorge
i mostly just run BFD since im playing low life. chest boots and gloves are all nice when they drop but at least in hc only chest and gloves sell without LP. boots can sell if they are max roll on the ward gain
muted flume
i was thinking about this but i question how high the scaling of Spreading Flame...
i was thinking of using the effect more for the more fire tbh
scaling crit and crit multi then megablast with empowered fireball
i mean the f/f/f invocation
if i understand it correctly the more fire damage is all fire damage right?
hollow arrow
thats true, it sucks that spirit of fire drops more boots
but has crap boss loot lol
robust gorge
if i understand it correctly the more fire damage is all fire damage right?
the more dmg is only for spreading flames, but it has really high dmg effectiveness. not sure what the best way to stack flat for it would be though
global flat dmg for spells is a rare stat for mages i think
robust gorge
thats true, it sucks that spirit of fire drops more boots
last steps can only drop from BFD though. it is definitely the timeline to play if you go low life
hollow arrow
Yeah, my Rm doesn't do low life but i need some 2-3lp frost shackles for my rogue for sure
so i'll prolly have to farm that and see if i get any luck
robust gorge
lp2 on gloves is like 1:5000
on top of whatever the droprate is for them
they go for a fortune in bazaar
hollow arrow
mssed up part is i dropped 3lp and sold them cuz i needed gold to fund the RM playstyle
lmao
errant plank
How easy is to change completely a build when level 99 ? Should first farm few items that are mandatory for the build first and it goes smooth??
hollow arrow
hmmm first drop for the day was a 1lp heart
not terrible
almost max rolled everything as well
could be worth something
robust gorge
How easy is to change completely a build when level 99 ? Should first farm few i...
i think so
you need to make sure you're strong enough for whatever corruption you're at when you switch
errant plank
i have few timeline at 100, some at 150 and 3 at 200
sturdy summit
i have few timeline at 100, some at 150 and 3 at 200
Do you have items to completely replace your gear for the new build?
make a stash tab to pick out what items you would switch
errant plank
Do you have items to completely replace your gear for the new build?
i dont know what is the new build yet π This is just an idea to change the gameplay some π
may depend on what ive in my stash, or would go with the 1 or 2 best meta builds
sturdy summit
Are you switching from crit to dot or the other way around?
errant plank
yeah im playing dis. atm
sturdy summit
do you have a lot of elemental gear you need to change out from lightning to cold or vice versa?
changing all your dot gear to crit and int gear is probably the most severe change you can make
errant plank
i see... may not be that easy when i hear yuou π
sturdy summit
that's the most extreme case, but I'm not meaning to imply it's hard or easy
you might already have all the gear you need, depending on how you've been collecting
make a stash tab where you can organize your new set. Got an exalt for every slot? you're fine.
errant plank
yeah, i first need to identify 1 or 2 possible new builds then i can check gameplay, what ive in stash etc
safe grail
Stash deez
errant plank
ive at least 10 stash tab of exalted
T6/T7 (i kept all T7 sor far)
and dozens of uniques
sturdy summit
yeah, so make a blank one so you can use it to organize just the items you're going to swap in after you respec
that will make it easier to keep track of what you need
errant plank
sure
i will make 2/3 tabs for different builds i guess. Will definately keep my current gear to be able to swap back
what are fun builds to play rn?
you have made a guide if i remember well π
sturdy summit
yes, I am doing frostbite
errant plank
ive shackles, some boots, some fc shards...
errant plank
snowdrift?
yeah
sturdy summit
yeah, with shackles and snowdrift, you'd find it easy to transition to frostbite. I bet a lot of your dis gear would transfer over.
sturdy summit
silk pewterBOT
sturdy summit
how would you describe the gameplay in few words ?
"standard frost claw gameplay"
errant plank
only 2 uniques?
errant plank
went through the build, really nice !
I can see you use only 3 uniques in the end game whereas you mention more in the uniques section, will check this out depending on what ive in my stash (because i think ive more of those)
and i see LL not really an option because snowdrift mandatory so no last steps π¦
will see this tomorrow, time to go to bed gn8 folks
sturdy summit
I can see you use only 3 uniques in the end game whereas you mention more in the...
My intent is to give people the minimum they need to get started, and suggestions for how to proceed afterwards based on what you get.
sturdy summit
and i see LL not really an option because snowdrift mandatory so no last steps οΏ½...
yeah, I'm so sad, because I got a 3lp last steps, but I'll need to use it for an alt ;_;
kindred shell
@sturdy summit how is the DPS for the Frostbite Frostclaw RM vs Spark Charge Frost Claw RM?
sturdy summit
<@130553802142121985> how is the DPS for the Frostbite Frostclaw RM vs Spark Cha...
I don't have any hard numbers on that, but it's the lightning based builds that we see pushing the highest corruption now. My guess is that lightning scales better above 1000 corruption. The advantage of frostbite is that it's got a smoother onramp before that.
strange flicker
they both around same corruption as far as i know
but lightning can be optimized abit more for mroe dmg
for dmg
maybe not on bosses purely
sturdy summit
The biggest advantage for lightning, imo, is that it can stack int. And int is sooooo good. I cry that I can't get the CDR from it.
strange flicker
ya thats the thing
u can scale it abit harder cause of int
and ladle being so strong
but
as frostbite u can sac abit of defense and still make it work so u get boosted dmg from that
sturdy summit
yep. I stopped using frostwall because enemies weren't even reaching it. They're frozen before that.
strange flicker
also if any rm build is gonna get nuked
it mite be the spark charges
doubt its frostbite unless they nuke frostclaw itself
sturdy summit
I think what's going to get nuked is going to be frost claw. My bet is they're going to tone down gift of winter so we can't be mana positive at all cast speeds.
strange flicker
i hope not
kindred shell
Enjoy it whilst you can then
sturdy summit
I'm just speculating, but the mana regen that scales with cast speed is what I think makes all these builds so busted.
strange flicker
tbh if its just a decent nerf nothing 2 crazy its still gonna be easily doable
u just needa drop strand/get mana regen belt
run mana regen on flame ward
end
*etc
to make up for it
barren pawn
I think what's going to get nuked is going to be frost claw. My bet is they're g...
tbf anything pushing 4 digits is getting tuned
shell fern
I think what's going to get nuked is going to be frost claw. My bet is they're g...
don't touch frost claw, just nerf rm. frostclaw is not really that broken. just ward gain for rm
shell fern
even forgeguards pushing 1k
thats solely because of healing hands, they only need to balance that skill ward gain
strange flicker
naw even without healing hand
u can get 1k+
healing hand already confirmed that the bug will prob get nuked
shell fern
what bug? it's not even bugged just ridiculously overtuned.
mind linking a forgeguard build that is pushing 1k without healing hands and its ward generation?
strange flicker
na the ward conversion isnt suppose to scale with increased healing stat
was confirmed by devs
sturdy summit
I think if they nerf everything across the board to make it impossible to reach 4-digit corruption, 1.1 will feel like a hangover, and everything will feel bad to play.
strange flicker
honestly thats 2 hard
LOL
i have 0 expectations of that
esp with them adding more gear/skills etc
sturdy summit
yeah, I don't think they're going to do that for 1.1
strange flicker
hell i expect next cycle ppl can push just as hard
sturdy summit
they're too busy adding bosses and stuff. They said there aren't going to be huge skill rebalances, right? I don't think they can fix ward without it.
strange flicker
imean they can nuke ward sure but
then its like add something to int instead of just ward retention rite
i assume the weaker int specs
will get destroyed by that
but yeah
sturdy summit
if all they do is nuke, the game will feel awful and people won't want to play. They have to be careful here.
strange flicker
ya and they seem reluctant to nuke outside of bugs
i assume it'll be some small nerfs/bug fixed and buff all the weaker specs/weaker skills
safe grail
all they are going to likely be doing
is just altering how heavy the rate of decay/retention is at extremely high ward
sturdy summit
gotta invent that modified newtonian gravity that lets the galaxy spin differently without changing the orbits of the planets
strange flicker
with the numbers ppl are throwing out
like
60k ward RM as if that ever happen outside of dragon
prob wont even be a bad nerf
LOL
shell fern
just add cooldown to celestial doom and jagged veil and rm will be just fine
safe grail
if they even remotely touch anything on RM but dont absolutely gut other classes
shell fern
warder-node in sorc tree has 10second cooldown. make it make sense
shell fern
warder sucks tho
exactly my point, only ward generating node apart from lost knowledge on sorc tree and both are ass
safe grail
v true
shell fern
if they even remotely touch anything on RM but dont absolutely gut other classes
they honestly don't need to touch that many other builds in regards of ward
safe grail
lost knowledge getting nerfed cause of SB and RM was kek
if we see some nice changes to sorc and SB ill be happy
strange flicker
i mean
primalist has a build that gets perma maxed ward
for druid
the transform build
shell fern
i think on falconer, wraithlord and marksman dmg output is the issue.
strange flicker
but its ass dmg
shell fern
the transform build
yeah but it is compensated with no dmg
strange flicker
i just think if they destroy ward, its fine for rm
shell fern
i think it's fine if the build is stupidly tanky if it's dmg sucks
strange flicker
but for weaker classes that depend on it only
tehy gonna get nuked
as far as rm goes
u can nerf ward all u want i honestly dont think it'll make a huge diff unless its massive nerfs
strange flicker
i just hope whatever they do with rm, it ends up making all invocations better
frostclawing instead of being invocation focus is tragic
kindred shell
if we see some nice changes to sorc and SB ill be happy
That is so true
sturdy summit
for me, the big thing is itemization. Some builds have really good itemization options, while others feel like they just get nothing.
a lot of balance issues could be addressed by adding some good uniques for less represented builds
it feels a bit sad when you look at your build and realize the best in slot items are almost all exalteds
safe grail
that's a very fair point
opal mountain
I think what's going to get nuked is going to be frost claw. My bet is they're g...
its the only decent Runemaster build out there. That'd be silly to nerf. Alternatively there are many more skills that need a buff to be viable. Otherwise everything kinda caps out at a few hundred corruption
royal laurel
cuirious, is there any real reason to keep LP1 items? I guess for leveling alts? low level stuff?
strange flicker
even for alts ur prob better off using some cheap 3/4 lp that requires low level
royal laurel
well cheap is relative when you're SSF
but would there be a real reason to keep LP1 items ever really
strange flicker
nope so far atleast
sturdy summit
its the only decent Runemaster build out there. That'd be silly to nerf. Alterna...
maxing out at a few hundred corruption appears to be the intent. They said that any build reaching 4-digit corruption is probably too strong.
strange flicker
they gonna have to force me to run naked in monos for 1k to be the max u can ever get to
gonna be interesting to see what kinda nukes they drop for that to even be possible LOL
tbh i hope they also instead giga buff corruption scaling after certain number
sturdy summit
I wouldn't be surprised if, despite that being their intention, they ultimately decide to lean into what they got rather than what they intended.
strange flicker
that way u keep every1 sub 1k
but the power scaling is actually as strong as say 4k
yeah i dont think they will nerf that hard imo, i feel like
arpg players arnt the type to like nerfs 2 much
digital musk
its the only decent Runemaster build out there. That'd be silly to nerf. Alterna...
There is literally 0 chance everything other than frostclaw caps at a few hundred c
sturdy summit
no one likes nerfs. Human instinct is to feel loss much more strongly than gain.
strange flicker
idk