- perma arcane
#🧙┃mage
strange flicker
safe grail
yeah but this interaction won't exist come 1.1
kain already mentioned they are removing the interaction w/ dots and changing disintegrate to compensate
crimson raft
Depending on how it turns out it could be like, yay, free item slot 🙂
safe grail
i mean it's probably gonna be more like "yay! 11 free item slots!" since you'll just hard avoid dis at that point
kekw
barren pawn
yeah but this interaction won't exist come 1.1
wa... yes it will
he didnt say they were messing with ingvars
just gamblers
safe grail
yeah but the primary reason yo udid that was both ing's and gamblers combined
it might not be worth it come 1.1
barren pawn
Itll still be worth
barren pawn
can still get to 500+ spell crit without gambler
barren pawn
( there is also the amtter of support lb.... )
barren pawn
nahhhhhhhhh not worth.
will be worth, so lnog as they do what kain said and amke it stand on its own
cause itll just be anohter 5x multi
on top of all the other multisa
and whatever new stuff they do to it
safe grail
they dont crit or hit, something about that needs to change
they can't not do both, it's just ass.
hollow arrow
need them crit dots
spare glen
Its literally same as in any other arpg
spare glen
Also calling dots ass is kinda weird when we have absurd amount of strong dot builds
crimson raft
999 frostbite stacks etc 😄
safe grail
still ass.
the investment required feels bad
only wont feel ass if other builds are brought in line to what they said on the stream
barren pawn
the investment required feels bad
This.
safe grail
where builds that are over XXXX corruption need a looking at
barren pawn
DoT based abilities need otbe able to crit
or at the very least need to be coutned as hits
spare glen
where builds that are over XXXX corruption need a looking at
I mean all of those will be nerfed so no worriss
barren pawn
easyu way to preventy abuse of this is to limit how many of them cou nt as hits
crimson raft
I don't see why they need to be the same as other skills or abilties as long as they have their own scaling that works
safe grail
I mean all of those will be nerfed so no worriss
yup. as long as they see it through
then it will be no big
barren pawn
I don't see why they need to be the same as other skills or abilties as long as ...
thazt sthe problem, they dont have their own scaling that workls.
crimson raft
Scaling is basically the main issue for everything. You need enough flat\stacks\more's etc just enough stuff to make good damage. How you get there isn't important
barren pawn
Disintegrate only currently scales well thanks to flat crit. You take away flat crit, and youre left with a wet paper towel.
Kain said they are fixing this to bring it in line with the other abilities so 🙏
stiff crown
Nerf Enigma
safe grail
wrong game.
safe grail
nerf deez
bitter iron
nerf flushes
sturdy summit
nooo, not teleport. why are we nerfing teleport :panic:
white cedar
Wtffffffff
wintry oasis
hard orbit
is never late passive still bugged or?
hollow arrow
u right
hollow arrow
thanks i'll use yer monies
subtle knoll
best lvling build for mage?
unborn hamlet
best lvling build for mage?
run with the flow, ignore the guides, and get someone to carry u across the dungeons and power level u in monoliths
😂
hardy loom
the true answer
sturdy summit
best lvling build for mage?
at level 5, specialize Elemental Nova, go Ice Nova. At level 12, specialize Frost Claw. Get these nodes in FC: Gift of Winter, Volley of Glass, Celestial Conflux. That combo plus anything else is the best levelling build.
vale tartan
BURN . That's the advice. Anything spreading flames and ignite that's fast helos
barren pawn
thanks i'll use yer monies
i mean hes using a good chunk of my monies
warped crow
best lvling build for mage?
go glacier from 1 to endgame xD
honestly mage is one of the easier classes to just pick up anything and have it work
no real noob traps
except maybe ele nova?
and even then its not horrible
vs rogue have fun trying to level with shuriken or acid flask
barren pawn
@full bluff I had a crazy idea i shared with Ex and he hates me for it
cause it works
full bluff
<@815396931982327848> I had a crazy idea i shared with Ex and he hates me for i...
What works?
barren pawn
@safe grail @full bluff
safe grail
harbinger's proc rate is just rly low
full bluff
Mana strike crit casting meteor?
safe grail
yeah
might've been done before
but with harbinger's proc rate being lik
9%
it feels like ass.
full bluff
Dre3d did a build on it, I tried it, but felt bad to play
full bluff
yes, looks good
safe grail
see just reinventing the wheel i guess
full bluff
I am still looking for that unicorn build, that solves meteor
barren pawn
who tf is dre3d?
safe grail
ah yeah i see it now
full bluff
who tf is dre3d?
some guy on youtube
full bluff
If meteor is to be the main damage source, there is no way around having to cast a lot of them. Can't be that single cast once in a while.
safe grail
ya
full bluff
The damage is just not there for that
full bluff
Working on fireball on runemaster now
safe grail
lmk
proper hawk
<@177205113046302720> <@815396931982327848>
you could go full meme and use battlemage's endeavor like me for more proc chances
full bluff
I was hoping runic invocation spell cascade would cast the actual skill, but it just launch a single fireball
proper hawk
meteor has lots of base crit from tree, and procs are made up for by just having a ton of them
proper hawk
thats why i said procs are made up for by just having a ton of them
safe grail
i mean fair
proper hawk
mana strike + mana arc autocrits so thats nice
full bluff
I have not had any problems procing meteor, more that it procs too much and it wrong places, leaving me out of mana
proper hawk
then lightning blast has a bit of base crit, and procs spark charges and spark nova as well as convergence for more hits
and then you also have frostclaw with chance on melee hit and base crit on tree
full bluff
3xFire rune invocation looks so nice
urban bridge
@full bluff I'm back again to disturb your peace lol
I'm still looking for ward sources. I tried a couple of items that converts used mana to ward but they seem like useless
proper hawk
I was hoping runic invocation spell cascade would cast the actual skill, but it ...
if you have multiple fireballs specced that sounds like a bug to me
full bluff
I'm still looking for ward sources. I tried a couple of items that converts used...
Which ones have you tried?
urban bridge
I mean I just tried to equip items with mana to ward and looked at how much ward I gain
full bluff
I limits itself to how much mana you can generate and spend, and thats not a lot.
urban bridge
I just checked again and I reached around 125% mana used to ward and the ward I gain is so minimal I didn't find it usefull
stiff crown
Julra's the most common. Then there's Strands
stiff crown
Some skills don't work with this (like Mana Storm)
urban bridge
what are you playing?
Meteor
urban bridge
As it's not a fast casted skill, other ward procs wouldn't work so I thought this would be better
urban bridge
are you using mana tunnel?
I don't remember what that was
urban bridge
are you using mana tunnel?
Aah I found it, no I'm not using it
earnest marten
Silly question, did 1 type nova help the screen clutter? Ice in this case
full bluff
Runemaster has one anoying feature, have to redo key bindings for each char.... when using locked in runes
full bluff
yes, found a way to make fireball work on rm
safe grail
o boy
full bluff
in theory...
full bluff
got the planner?
need a bit to clean it up
everything is a mess on this runemaster
could really use a real loadout system, this home made one is not good enough
errant plank
i'm looking for exsanguous for few hours now, no luck
looking for specific echo reward in the right timeline
sullen umbra
does higher corruption make rare drops less rare? IE if I push the corruption on Blood, Frost, and Death timeline will the frostbite shackles be more likely to drop?
errant plank
is there a bette rway to get it? Looks like it can drop randomly from what i read... would you suggest ascendance? some prophecies?
errant plank
does higher corruption make rare drops less rare? IE if I push the corruption on...
i got this one today 😄
nimble shoal
does higher corruption make rare drops less rare? IE if I push the corruption on...
Yes. Corruption gives increased item rarity, and that increases the drop chance of the rare boss drops.
nimble shoal
is there a bette rway to get it? Looks like it can drop randomly from what i rea...
It's kinda uncommon, just use all the tools you have until you get your first one, if you really need it - including runes
errant plank
It's kinda uncommon, just use all the tools you have until you get your first on...
ive 16 runes so far... never used one 🙂 Do you think i should use them on my alt once its level 23 ?
full bluff
got the planner?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QexPdm5A the test setup
silk pewterBOT
safe grail
poggers
nimble shoal
ive 16 runes so far... never used one 🙂 Do you think i should use them on my al...
The level doesn't matter, just slap them on any body armor and it'll have a (small) chance to get you an exsang
full bluff
Brand of deciption works with fireball, so you get the ward gains from celestial doom, same as spark claws
Can use cfc shield
So defenses on rm solves itself, leaving more room to work on damage with fireball
safe grail
holyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
full bluff
Like using a different chest you were talking about
full bluff
yes and rings
safe grail
i have a really cracked chest
full bluff
lots of options here
safe grail
full bluff
Mana is solved with mana tunnel + cfc invocation and rune bolt spam
full bluff
runebolt could probably do it alone
safe grail
since defensive layers are kind of solved.
safe grail
runebolt could probably do it alone
RB mana gen is incredibly strong, so it wouldnt surprise me
full bluff
need damage from somewhere, will look at options for wrongwarp too
barren pawn
I like how my dumb ideas have spurred more builds.
full bluff
flame burst does not scale on int, so need flat damage and increased damage sources
safe grail
Think cindersong could be viable for that
safe grail
flame burst does not scale on int, so need flat damage and increased damage sour...
Cindersong immolators.
could be a possibility
full bluff
Immolators might be it 🙂
safe grail
because if ward is solved
that solves the need for strand**
i will muck about w/ my cindersong to see how it feels
ring wise, i ironically feel like julra is a possibility here
full bluff
dont have immolators so need to fck about in soulfire...
full bluff
but this build looks very promising 🙂 more should try it
fun mechanic to play
just blast stuff
safe grail
omg the ward gen from edict of the scion
sturdy summit
does higher corruption make rare drops less rare? IE if I push the corruption on...
Corruption increases both enemy difficulty and item rarity. Higher item rarity modifier makes better items drop.
safe grail
i forgot cus everything is tagged area that explodes
OH BOY
slapping it together now.
i actually have +8 to fireball
so i can probably get a few pts off mana as well
@full bluff can proc runeword inferno too
full bluff
<@815396931982327848> can proc runeword inferno too
yes, just put a point in it now
safe grail
yo how tf do i unbind right click?
sturdy summit
omg the ward gen from edict of the scion
edict is sick, I love it
safe grail
it keeps saying its bound and i cannot
sturdy summit
yo how tf do i unbind right click?
do not unbind right click
errant plank
The level doesn't matter, just slap them on any body armor and it'll have a (sma...
JUST GOT IT, 1LP, from an echo reward as mentionned in the item, i did not spend any rune of ascendancy 😄
sturdy summit
if you succeed, you will not be able to bind it back to anything, and will have to reset your hotkeys
nimble shoal
Grats 😄
errant plank
+7 spell damage 😄
full bluff
it keeps saying its bound and i cannot
cant be done
full bluff
have to reset to fix it
safe grail
yeah that's dumb
sturdy summit
it's super dumb
I had to redo my hotkeys
why did I think to test that
I got a huge wall of text of revisions I need to make back from Dammit :D
full bluff
I think it is about immersion, really defines my runemaster that I can't use right click on action slot 4.
and runebolt can not be on right click
when I want cfc
sturdy summit
yeah, when we're required to build our skill bars according to rune order, not being able to change hotkeys is even worse
hollow arrow
hmmmm to lvl alt or get monies
full bluff
yes, but we set out to make a sorcerer non-meta build, and ended up making the next runemaster meta build...
safe grail
same
it just goes to prove it again
which sucks but
gives them another data point to buff RM lol
safe grail
lmao
hollow arrow
hows this one
hollow arrow
lmao
safe grail
can actually net more dmg too from TP
hollow arrow
what'd you do for the mana
safe grail
just runebolt spam for mana regen
full bluff
it is not OP, compared to frost claw, but it is pretty good compared to other build options
frost claw is just something by itself
hollow arrow
more options is always good though tbh
safe grail
ive also wanted to goof around w/ a str8 runebolt build
so that may be something i do too
oooo
ashes
has a spot in this build now
errant plank
@barren pawn : I'm about to move to LowHP/Ward build, some nodes may differ from what ive atm (passives/skills wise), did you make any update since last time you shared it here? I've this one: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0wVv3PA
silk pewterBOT
barren pawn
<@237570498651750401> : I'm about to move to LowHP/Ward build, some nodes may di...
experimental gloves
beyond that not reall
errant plank
experimental -HP+Ward ?
empty urchin
Any good endish game builds that dont require farminga boss for something impossible?
crimson raft
Define impossible ^^
empty urchin
Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros feels impossible honestly
and im not even trying to get an lp one lol
crimson raft
Erm, have to disagree that's easy enough IMO with no LP. Just kill the dragon like eeh 5-10 times.
sturdy summit
and im not even trying to get an lp one lol
Frostbite Frostclaw wants Snowdrift Boots. That's a common drop.
sturdy summit
awesome. what kind of weapon?
empty urchin
and strands of souls =/
I was wanting to get the mad alchemist laddle thing but had no luck with drops of it yet. wish i woulda tried merchant but no idea how ppl get so much gold lol
crimson raft
They don't farm gold really, they get a good drop sell that for the fat cash and then the cycle continues
sturdy summit
ladle isn't a great thing to start with, because it's not great if it doesn't have LP on it too.
for frostbite, any good wand will get you started until you can farm up a 1lp frozen ire with spellslinger on it
the main stat it stacks is Freeze Rate Multiplier, and it gives you both defense and damage
that makes it really nice in early corruption situations
empty urchin
ya, i am at 300+ corruption on a few of the monoliths
and i do well enough but damage is really starting to drop off
full bluff
Frost ire shouldnt be too hard to find either for frostbite build
Or any t7 freezrate wand really
might be better 🙂
empty urchin
i have a t6 freezrate wand currently
All i wanna be able to do is tier 4 dungeons. i get destroyted constantly =/
full bluff
My frostbite build, nothing on it is hard to find, https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oyRjPq7A
silk pewterBOT
royal gull
I need a break from my Runemaster, gonna see if my Spellblade is any more fun now that I have a few new uniques it can use
empty urchin
thanks red, ill take a look
sturdy summit
695 damn
full bluff
@safe grail Tested fireball at corruption 300, highest I can do on this runemaster. Works great, everything melts
empty urchin
Any suggestions on best way to use the Circle of fortune? it seems real weak later... i watched a raxx video on how to try it but ill have to try it later
not level 10 yet
crimson raft
stack the two more multis, and the third is just for getting the item to show in the prophecy (like glove, or dagger etc) more often. Reroll until you get a prophecy you WANT to run, try to do it in a timeline that also has boss farm you want. Stack as many as you can and pray to RNGesus
sturdy summit
either a boss drop, or a timeline that has the Unique/Set echo rewards for an item type you want
full bluff
The fireball build on runemaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXW_Ic_G4HE first version, think it can be greatly improved on
safe grail
<@177205113046302720> Tested fireball at corruption 300, highest I can do on thi...
Hell yeah
royal gull
... ooooooooooffffff.
I just saw what Exothermic does on Firebrand, what a missed opportunity
Ignite Chance per Stack Consumed? Really? When you're already at like 200% Ignite chance on every attack
Even if you don't want to be
urban rover
hey im new to runemaster.. i saw alot of frostclaw build using runic invocation skill specialization but when i watch the video some of then dont even use it so what is the point of having it on your specialization when u just gonna spam frostclaw?
royal gull
Especially a missed chance when an easy answer is right there, use Firebrand stacks as Rhythm of Fire fuel
Is there any kind of effect that makes Fire Aura do anything other than damage over time?
safe grail
... ooooooooooffffff.
I just saw what Exothermic does on Firebrand, what a miss...
it's even worse than you think
royal gull
I dunno, just seeing a lot of interactions in Spellblade really pushing you towards an Ignite build, but I was really hoping for a Fire Crit build instead.
Ex: lol you mean it is even worse, when I came in here just to say how bad it is?
safe grail
yeah i worded that terribly lmao
fire build for spellblade is just
not fantastic lmao
royal gull
I wanted to try something else other than DoT on my sword mage and the game is fighting against that
full bluff
Looking at doing something stupid with fireballs and firebrand
royal gull
Also Dancing Flames feels awful when I saw how slow the wave moves
safe grail
Looking at doing something stupid with fireballs and firebrand
you have a SB?
full bluff
you have a SB?
was going to test it on rm or sorcerer, but have sb too if needed 🙂
royal gull
Also Sunreath doesn't say it on the item, but visually it seems to reduce the range of Flame Reave
safe grail
Also Sunreath doesn't say it on the item, but visually it seems to reduce the ra...
it's worded incorrectly.
full bluff
flamereave is what I am testing
royal gull
I was going to say, it also seems redundant
full bluff
or crit if you want more of that
royal gull
Like, it looks like you are significantly lower range, something like what Worldfire would be yeah at -35%
Also, why does this cost 26 mana as my first unlocked ability? Are you serious?
I have 118 mana, I'm level 24
safe grail
you dont spam it
generally at least
if you have firebrand at least you wont spam it
royal gull
I have Firestarter's Torch and am thinking I should just use Fireball until I'm like 50
safe grail
hey katt, do you know if we don't have the embers node, can we still hit multiple projectiles to a single target?
royal gull
How far do you think Firestarter Torch can carry you if you focus on DoT instead of hit?
full bluff
hey katt, do you know if we don't have the embers node, can we still hit multipl...
no, only 1 projectile hit per target
safe grail
no, only 1 projectile hit per target
okay so that's why embers says what it says
royal gull
Oh, yeah Fireball doesn't shotgun
royal gull
I don't think anything does by default
royal gull
I noticed even though Fireball doesn't have an Area tag it does explode in a small area
So you're saying the explosions can overlap
but only 1 Fireball per cast can explode on 1 target
and none of the nodes in Fireball increase that area for some reason
full bluff
3x fireballs = 12 stacks of rythm of fire, makes flame reave have huge range like a spell
it looks cool, no idea what to use it for
royal gull
Is there any way to reduce the cooldown of Flame Ward that I'm just not seeing?
safe grail
yes
nocturne charm
This may seem like a more "general" question but... How can we target +x to Frost Claw relics? I am about to hit 100 and have barely found 1 or 2 +1
safe grail
Is there any way to reduce the cooldown of Flame Ward that I'm just not seeing?
you get CDR on gear
safe grail
This may seem like a more "general" question but... How can we target +x to Fros...
farm t4 temporal sanctum
clear the ENTIRE floor for each floor before julra
alternatively, if you're CoF you can target farm relic prophecies
but i am not CoF and have gotten like 2-3 from temp sanctum
royal gull
Yeah, CDR on gear looks like the actual only way
nocturne charm
why temp sanctum though? T4 is relics?
royal gull
Or from a passive like Runemaster's
safe grail
why temp sanctum though? T4 is relics?
higher level mobs/rares in there
royal gull
but no way to chunk it down fast by seconds at a time
safe grail
consistently dropping exalted.
safe grail
idk, have you found any? lol
nocturne charm
no lmao
safe grail
lmao
royal gull
So if you wanted to go Fireball to support Flame Reave, you would have to focus on spell dmg and convert it in Flame Reave
Or have an even weaker Fireball than normal
full bluff
Fireball is pretty strong, I was thinking something that could make it even better
but don't see it yet 🙂
safe grail
So if you wanted to go Fireball to support Flame Reave, you would have to focus ...
you're not going to be able to play any of the ranged abilities that scale off spell dmg as spellblade
there's no way to build for it really.
royal gull
Oh right, the passive tree itself is all melee related
safe grail
yeah
generally speaking, if you're playing flame reave, you're likely playing firebrand in a builder-spender type of rotation
if you play shatter strike, you're playing mana strike and shatter strike
royal gull
So again if you were trying to get anything useful out of Fireball when doing Flame Reave... you're back to DoT spec because now you're just scaling Ignite and it doesn't matter what your added spell or melee dmg is
Do I have that about right?
safe grail
no. you're likely not playing fireball at all
the scaling and play style aren't really there.
royal gull
but say I was using it as a supportive skill
I would HAVE to focus on Ignite to get anything substantive out of it?
safe grail
nah. you can play it as a crit build
spellblade has the opportunity to get very high crit chance
royal gull
but I can't scale the Fireball with spell damage, so it is still neutered right?
safe grail
you cant scale it w/ melee
royal gull
Compared to Rune or Sorc
safe grail
is what you meant
you can scale it thru gear and thru the burden of knowledge node
and any of the 1st half tree nodes in sorc/RM
like theoretically you could do SOMETHING
it's just going to very likely be clunky and not terribly viable beyond normal monos
royal gull
but it won't really be worth it compared to scaling Ignite, is what I'm saying
Because you could scale Ignite for your melee and Fireball equally
It doesn't care about your spell or melee damage
safe grail
yes it does
the actual tick dmg applied by the ability will care about the dmg modifiers on the ability
royal gull
I meant added spell or melee dmg, like from your weapon
Those don't scale Ignite, as you said only the ability that applies Ignite scales it, or passives in your passive tree, or affixes like Elemental DoT
Fire Damage, DoT, Elemental DoT
At that point you're scaling Ignite itself, not the skill that applied it, unless the skill that applied is also a DoT like Frost Wall converted to Fire or Fire Aura
So you could in theory do Fire Wall, Fire Aura, Fireball, Flame Reave, whatever other Fire skill and scale them all by scaling Ignite, correct?
safe grail
yep but the truth is you want to be scaling the amount of stacks applied
the dmg is secondary.
royal gull
Right, absolutely
Applying twice as many stacks is worth the same as +100% DoT dmg, you have to balance it
Use skills that apply it quickly
So for example Frost Wall converted would apply Ignite 4 times per 1 second, but it doesn't have a Hit component so it won't scale with "chance to ignite" on gear
safe grail
it's more about maintaining the the stacks
royal gull
So the rate never scales up
royal gull
So putting a boss that doesn't move much in a Fire Wall would maintain 10 stacks of Ignite by itself
safe grail
nah it doesn't refresh em
royal gull
It applied 4 per second, so in 2.5 seconds of standing in the fire it would apply 10 ignite
The initial would fall off and get replaced
safe grail
it then loses 4 stacks half a second later.
yeah
so you'd end up kinda around 8?
i guess?
8-12?
royal gull
Well it applies them in 0.25 second interval so you'd be at 9-10
royal gull
All good, I looked up Frost Wall in LETools to verify how it applies Chill, which is how it applies Ignite when converted
Frostbite becomes Fire Res Shred
royal gull
Also I was going a bit all-in on treating Ignite like it is exactly the same ailment as Frostbite with a different element
I should probably see if there are any differences
safe grail
it's actually worse than frostbite
like ignite is arguably the worst ailment dot in the game
all it does is applies dmg and at a weird interval
whereas frostbite can chill/freeze and shock shreds resists
royal gull
Frostbite just makes Freeze easier yeah
It does 36 damage over 3 seconds by default which is 12 dps, Ignite does 40 dps over 2.5 seconds which is 16 dps
So there is your answer, Ignite is by default 33% more dps in the base amount, which will then be scaled up by the same things Frostbite is EXCEPT for Snowdrift
full bluff
Yes, snowdrift is what makes frostbite crazy for damage
safe grail
think the next thing imma look at is a runebolt build
unborn hamlet
yeah but you can easily get 3-5k stacks of frostbite good luck doing that with ignite
royal gull
Wait what, you can get 3-5k stacks of Frostbite? Is that what Frost Claw is up to?
unborn hamlet
Yeah
royal gull
How do you apply 3k-5k stacks before they can fall off???
unborn hamlet
999 is not the cap
royal gull
How are you applying 999 or whatever amount?
full bluff
yes, no cap on stacks, I have 4k stacks going
unborn hamlet
And Devs said it had no cap
full bluff
The possible single target damage with frostbite is silly high
royal gull
So is this a unique or something that lets you apply so many stacks? The tree doesn't seem to indicate anything absurd
unborn hamlet
2800% freeze rate multiplier then modified by 100% or so cast speed and then further multiplied by freeze rate per stack of chill (I can apply 3 chill stacks) which is totaling another 1000-1500% freeze multi as well and then that gets multiplied by the volley of glass each hit applying frostbite then further multiplied by all the recatss
full bluff
Just stack up on frostbite chance, cast speed and use frost claw spam
unborn hamlet
I'm at 999 stacks+ after 3-4 frostclaw casts lmao
royal gull
Why does Freeze Rate Multiplier apply more Frostbites?
I know it scales the cold penetration with Snowdrift, but what does it have to do with applying more stacks?
unborn hamlet
The wording is weird
But freeze multi increases your chance to apply frostbite
So 1 frostbite = 100%
royal gull
Wait.. so it isn't just making their resistance negative?
unborn hamlet
And when you have like 5k freeze rate after all the modifiers
You apply 50 stacks a hit
Granted 1 is not the base
Depends on mobs resistance too
It is insane, the only downfall of frostbite build is that on high corruptions your clear is slow
Because you don't have upfront dmg
1500 is easily doable tho
I'm running 750 with no issues
full bluff
I apply 135 stacks of frostbite with 1 frost claw cast
unborn hamlet
I apply 135 stacks of frostbite with 1 frost claw cast
Not too shabby, but you can do better
The extra recasts make it go crazy
full bluff
I took duration idols, not frostbite chance
I can do up to 3.2M DoT ticks on dummy
Need some better gear
unborn hamlet
Dummy tests are dummy indeed
Honestly doesn't translate into real gameplay at all
Almost any build can bit for millions on a dummy
My actual boss DOTs are around 100-150k depending on the boss
full bluff
I wish meteor could 🙂
silk pewterBOT
unborn hamlet
My current Loadout
mossy turret
I stg if I fail this sixth T6 +3 Frost Claw slam into Twisted Heart 1lp
royal gull
I still have yet to meet a dummy, do I have to spend a key to use them or no?
unborn hamlet
I still have yet to meet a dummy, do I have to spend a key to use them or no?
They are next to the arena entrance
Or well, near the arena
royal gull
Ahhh so I can just go there up to the point where I need a key?
royal gull
I will do that, thanks. Also based on what you're saying then, if I give Runebolt 100% chance to apply Frostbite it will actually multiple with Snowdrift and my FRM to become more than twice that?
(I have the Runemaster passive that changes Armour Shred to Frostbite Chance)
unborn hamlet
I don't know how runebolt operates I'm not qualified to answer that
royal gull
I'm up to 1800% FRM when fully buffed
Where are you getting Freeze Rate Per Chill from?
Oceareon?
Ahhh there are blessings and whatnot ok
full bluff
I am saving frostbite runemaster build for last, since I suspect it will be the best and hard to go back after
royal gull
I was making a Blizzard build but honestly it became a Frostbite build just because they all scale with similar affixes
unborn hamlet
It's just gear heavy
Very high level of entry
Not friendly for MG players at all and very hard to assemble on CoF
hollow arrow
two tries to get one lmao
but i gotta get some monies cuz broke
or farm emperor more
i hit 500 corr on my warpath build, and that's about as far as im taking that i think
unborn hamlet
The +4?
That, and 1-2LP prismatic gaze, 3-4LP enigma 3-4LP mad Laddle, 2-3LP static shell
All incredibly expensive items
full bluff
Glad I play CoF
safe grail
they are only expensive
unborn hamlet
1LP prisma gaze with 4% crit roll is something stupid like 100m
hollow arrow
2lp enigma is fine tbh unless if you need resists
unborn hamlet
because people sheep a build
CoF on top, trust, they gonna give us better perks next cycle including for bosses
safe grail
yeah for sure
unborn hamlet
It's not coping at all
hollow arrow
im gonna do CoF starting next cycle as well
safe grail
but it's cool cause imma jump ship to D4 for S4 when that rolls around
hollow arrow
pretty much experienced MG with this one
full bluff
If people are used to playing overtuned skills and builds with 3-4 LP items as minimum gear, they are in for a surprise when stuff normalize
safe grail
yeah
royal gull
I have been given a lot to think about today, thank you everyone for expanding my understanding of the game further
safe grail
may
hollow arrow
ah rip
safe grail
PTR is next week for D4
royal gull
We have some time yeah, but then it gets a new expack right after that
safe grail
then s4 is early may
full bluff
open for everyone on PTR?
safe grail
yea
hollow arrow
ah right the ptr
full bluff
Nice, going bug hunting there then
safe grail
We have some time yeah, but then it gets a new expack right after that
Expac DOA if they dont get S4 right
full bluff
I had a good time finding bugs on the sorcerer in season 2 / d4
not really builds in d4
more ways to exploit stuff 🙂
safe grail
when i first started this cycle i really wanted to play frostclaw w/ barrage proccing but
it was meh
wonder if i could do a frostbite version of that?
hm
full bluff
I play with ice barrage, but self cast
vernal finch
someone sold 2 LP exan for 0 gold just now...... i got it LOL
hollow arrow
ye lotta times you can snatch up some good things
royal gull
Expac DOA if they dont get S4 right
For sure, I'm amazed they are doing the stat changes first and not convincing people to buy the expansion by holding them hostage
safe grail
For sure, I'm amazed they are doing the stat changes first and not convincing pe...
Nah they know that future seasons woulda been DOA
which would've made the expac DOA
if they unfk S4 and S5, then they will sell more copies. it's free real estate (marketing)
hollow arrow
hmmm might have to run a few soul gambas
safe grail
might've made allie's CoC build better lol
hollow arrow
kek
safe grail
heart?
hollow arrow
ye
those fkers going for 1b rn
hmmm
im honestly okay with my t7 heart
i'll just slap a +3 or 4 into a 1lp heart in future for fc if i need to swap
hollow arrow
yeah
i got two chances anyways for +3
and +3 are going for 20-30m rn
+4 are 400m+
better off doing 1lp, swap from int to fc + when i need it tbh
current lowest 2lp twisted is 990m
i'll slap mine for 900m ez
i'll get 2 max stat 1lps and try to slam lmao
hmmm these experimental boots might be worth something
t7 movement, t5 haste, t4 dodge, t4 armor %
royal gull
Does Blade Weaver at the end of Spellblade make Ignite inflicted by skills also do more damage?
Ahhhhhh yeah it does
pale cedar
i kind of called my spellblade useless this entire time but now that i finally geared him a lil, the damage is kinda nutty
pale cedar
Does Blade Weaver at the end of Spellblade make Ignite inflicted by skills also ...
it says it does but it was hard for me to see the difference when i was testing it tbh
might just be because ignite base is low so maybe i wasnt seeing it trying to test with low stacks
warped crow
ngl flameward could use a tree overhaul lol
like half the tree basically never get touched
royal gull
I was just looking for something that might give Mana Strike other dmg types, doesn't look like anything can
warped crow
I was just looking for something that might give Mana Strike other dmg types, do...
i mean spell dmg is a dmg type
xD
wait nvm you cant turn mana strike into a spell
but mana arc is a spell ig
same for the spark charges
safe grail
i love taking streamer builds that are ass and making them better
royal gull
I feel like with Eye of Reen and Firebrand / Flame Reave they are really pushing Fire Spellblade to hybridize strike and DoT
I am keen to try the Reen 🙂
I just need to find one
safe grail
Reen is only good as a 2 LP
i've tried it
it gets out classed by 2x crystal swords.
royal gull
What does 2 LP mean? Also were you trying for a hybrid build?
safe grail
legendary potential
idea behind a 2 LP eye of reen is that you can slam attack speed onto it
and maybe crit chance
and no.
if you go Dot, you don't build crit
if you go crit, you dont build dot
too much required for too little of stats available.
royal gull
Also what do you mean outclassed by 2x Crystal Swords? As in 2x Eye of Reen compared to them?
safe grail
as in crystal sword/eye of reen or X/eye of reen is easily out classed by 2x crystal swords
because crystal sword implicit is like 40-100% melee elemental dmg and 10-15% melee attack speed or something to that effect
royal gull
Can you wield 2 Eye of Reen or no?
safe grail
you can
royal gull
Will you build stacks twice as fast?
royal gull
Crystals can't build Reen's Ire can they?
safe grail
no
royal gull
That is what I'm asking, does 2x Eye of Reen build twice the stacks of Reen's Ire
royal gull
They absolutely stack, no limit that I'm aware of, but 5 second duration
I'm looking at it on LETools
safe grail
all i know is eye of reen is only really good at 2 LP
otherwise it's not worth using
even for the unique buff
royal gull
Thats ok, good to have value at 2 LP
rough python
Mad ladle 3lp, how rare we talkin
royal gull
It isn't a boss specific drop so it probably isn't hard to get a few to slam
safe grail
uhm
it has value at 2 LP but
it's very rare lol
like a 1.35% drop rate
are you COF or MG?
royal gull
CoF so I can also try to ascend it
Since it isn't a specific drop
Or does Ascend rate change with drop rate?
royal gull
So you could ascend one early game if you were really lucky
safe grail
they and there's only so many of them.
so very unlikely that you will get one
1 LPs are bit more common
so you'd be likely to get one of those, slam attack speed on it
and call it a day
royal gull
Sounds like a plan to try for one either way, I like the idea of having a chase item 😛
royal gull
The further into corruption you go, the higher the drop rate for +LP items?
safe grail
yeah
primary thing you gotta realize for flame reave is since it is builder-spender style rotation, you want to be out of the builder portion as quickly as human possible.
that's why crystal swords are generally better until a 2 LP reen
50% chance to slam attack speed onto it and then another semi or fully useful stat is always welcomed.
safe grail
firebrand -> reave yeah
also next time anyone complains about RM
i'm linking this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IKgd3-b3i0
royal gull
I don't love Rhythm of Fire after trying just the preceeding node Dancing Flames
Anyways I think my course is set, I'm going for hybrid with Fire Aura
safe grail
w/ fire aura?
royal gull
Reen buffs fire dot, Fire Aura is fire dot, grants +ignite chance with Reave
safe grail
mk. have fun 🙂
royal gull
The Surge path that leads to Fire dmg also has Aura interactions
strange flicker
that 1 is getting fixed anyways
its confirmed a bug
RM most ethical class in the game
hollow arrow
alright time to slam
strange flicker
okay to be fair
i clear monos at 3k+ faster
their boss dmg is just insane
LOL
safe grail
Dont think mm can stack ward without LL
neon lynx
just a casual ramping 2500% crit multi from that sword lmao
safe grail
Lololol
neon lynx
dude had 465 stacks at the end of oro lol
hollow arrow
eye of reen?
neon lynx
yea
hollow arrow
reen is nuts
sturdy summit
It isn't a boss specific drop so it probably isn't hard to get a few to slam
exiled mages aren't a boss, but you only get at best one attempt at one each echo.
neon lynx
when u hit 500 times in a 5 second fight ya
royal gull
exiled mages aren't a boss, but you only get at best one attempt at one each ech...
Exiled Mages are your best chance at unique swords?
sturdy summit
exiled mages are the only ones who drop ladle
neon lynx
wat
royal gull
exiled mages aren't a boss, but you only get at best one attempt at one each ech...
I wasn't talking about Ladle 🙂
sturdy summit
ah, okay
royal gull
Eye of Reen is my chase item I think
I know a lot more about how the game works now and think I've come up with a hybrid Fire Spellblade build
royal gull
Let me dream please, at least I'm interested in Spellblade again 😉
safe grail
It’s all good. It’ll be fun! Not like youre doing high corruption anyway
royal gull
Exactly, I will burn out in style
royal gull
I've never used Firebrand or Surge so we'll see if I even like those
lol, at the moment (level 24) I do so much damage by just running around proc'ing Fire Aura that it kills by itself
I don't even need to attack
I feel like there is a missed opportunity in Spellblade to let you take more Dex than other Mage builds normally would
royal gull
Like you can, and you get 4% dmg just like Int, but there is nothing that makes Dodge itself better and every defensive passive is geared towards Ward with one towards Armour
hollow arrow
time to play some dd2 and see if i make any monies on le
neon lynx
does more leech = bigger ward with twisted heart?
more cast speed = more ward
u just need enough leech to not run out of health
glad island
ahh ok thanks!
barren pawn
time to play some dd2 and see if i make any monies on le
hi im 40 hours deep
in ...
three days
fiery vigil
is anyone using ward per current health for frostclaw?
royal gull
What is the point of gambling btw? Also what is dd2?
Gambling feels like I'm paying and waiting to get an item I would find on the ground
winter crow
hi im 40 hours deep
40 hrs and still playing? wow
I played like 25-30 hrs and finished the game with a ton of secondary quests done
I guess I rushed a bit cuz sorc is actually op in that game, oneshotting everything with a bugged skill lol
magic nexus
I played like 25-30 hrs and finished the game with a ton of secondary quests don...
shoddy definition of " i finished the game" if you only played 25hours lol
winter crow
shoddy definition of " i finished the game" if you only played 25hours lol
yeah, didn't need more
I was oneshotting everything with a single skill lol
royal gull
I'm trying to figure out how to make a good loot filter and I'm terrified of hiding good affixes by mistake
Like I've got a basic flow here,
Show all Unique / Set / Exalted items
RECOLOR those same types with >=2 tiers of at least 3 of the 104 affixes I care about
SHOW 28 types I can use with at least 3 of the 104 affixes I care about
show 28 types I can use with 104 affixes I know I at least kind of care about
Hide all normal / magic / rare
The thing I fear is that I may be hiding affixes that aren't important to me at the moment, but might actually be valueable and I should be trying to Shatter them
Or saving the item for an alt in general
Does anyone have an answer for this?
glad island
what's a better source of leech for twisted heart (playing frostbite frostclaw rm) -- chill to the bone passive (1.5%) or spell leech blessing (2.2 - 3.5%)?
austere gyro
The thing I fear is that I may be hiding affixes that aren't important to me at ...
Maybe take a look at raxx’s loot filter video for inspiration
royal gull
I did actually! I was using his on my first Mage, but I didn't love it
Is the reason that I never hear about Spreading Flames because it doesn't scale very well since you can't stack it?
Like it is awesome while you're just leveling up, but doesn't scale into Monolith?
magic nexus
yeah, didn't need more
yea but that's not the end of this game , h&s dont have any proper end, its all about grinding your items character to make them perfect. But i feel like i get your point though, in LE there isnt much endgame content (no real variations of boss, no really very hard and diverse encounters either)except grinding monoliths and doing infinite arenas, which could get hard though. As you push corruption level harder, you'll definitely stop "one shotting" everything at some point. But tends to be very repetitive. i guess having the feeling of one shotting everything is an end in itself when you finished the campaign. the genre is just not for you then
glass forge
need some help about this current runemaster build im going
any knowledgable runemasters to help me about runic invocation dm me please!
white cedar
has anyone tried using google SIMA to optimize their build?
next mural
Anyone wanna join up and run some monos or whatever?
crimson raft
Interesting thought, but my first reaction to that is that you'd need to teach it the game first and how everything works. But that AI seems to be more geared to actually do stuff in the games not just calculate stuff.
white cedar
SIMA nuts
sinful hamlet
white cedar
lol thankyou!
zealous jewel
any lightning blast expert who knows exactly how the "arcing power" node functions?
it chains additional times for each direct cast recently which is obvious what that means
but i cant figure out if triggered lightning blasts will benefit from those additional chains
assuming that you have been casting it directly before it gets casted by triggers
hard orbit
what's a better source of leech for twisted heart (playing frostbite frostclaw r...
chill to the bone is more than enough
unborn hamlet
personally I use the spell leech
stiff crown
but i cant figure out if triggered lightning blasts will benefit from those addi...
It will not. You need Chain Lightning for triggered (indirect) casts
Unless you directly cast it before in the last 4 seconds, then it will
shy jewel
@neon lynx so by the way, started my little holiday and rerolled from sorc to runemaster and oh my god. The difference is ridiculous, basicaly. Compared to how I was, now literally flying through the game 👀
zealous jewel
@stiff crown alright cool. yea i am planning on casting it directly but also having it trigger
stiff crown
What are you using to trigger?
mild sandal
is there a good way to farm mad alchemist ladles now? necrotic streets strategy doesn't seem that good
crimson raft
There was a strat for it? I just do monos and booped them when i saw 'em.
mild sandal
there were maps that had a high chance of them spawning very close to start so you would just restart those maps and juicing the magic find bosnuses before running them of course
vernal finch
anyone knows which one better for tanking
2 red ring
or
julra maxed stat with t6 int LP
hardy loom
20% less dmg > everything else
vernal finch
20% less dmg > everything else
this was i was thinking before, but i had doubt because every guide i see only use 1 red ring, the other one are julra with int LP
i just found 2nd red ring from ascendence idk if i should sell or use
hardy loom
It's just to balanced things prob, u don't need so much defense when on a runemaster
stiff crown
20% less dmg > everything else
It’s actually 19% if you use 2. They are multiplicative, not additive.
hardy loom
All those setup still won't prevent you from getting fked by 2k c orobys
vernal finch
All those setup still won't prevent you from getting fked by 2k c orobys
im still at 1200, can i tank oro with 2 red rings, im too scared to tank, i usually hit and run lol
are poison resist are really that important to cap, i still die in 2 sec vs poison DOT from poison spire.... i even tried 100% resist to test it, doesnt matter lol
stiff crown
Get Oracle amulet or glove implicit and experimental for DoT reduction
Or just don’t stand in the DoT, lol
vernal finch
Or just don’t stand in the DoT, lol
thing is, i cant see anything on the ground..... too many screen clutter
stiff crown
I’m at 1400c and still using 1 red, 1 Julra. I don’t know if another 10% less damage mod will help me. If I’m dying, I’m dying, lol.
hardy loom
^
So just sell ur 2nd red ring
🤣
Been farming reign here and there and only got 2 Lp jelkhor and no Lp hearts at all
Unlucky
hollow arrow
woooo made monies
vernal finch
fml i just mistakenly sold my mage armor chance to frostbite tier 6 200k, lowest one is 40m LOL
strange flicker
more flame wards/mobility the more dmg u avoid
strange flicker
they make a pretty massive diff in combination with static shell
barren pawn
I played like 25-30 hrs and finished the game with a ton of secondary quests don...
you definitely missed 90% of the game
hardy loom
fml i just mistakenly sold my mage armor chance to frostbite tier 6 200k, lowest...
i sold a bis sentinel idol for 200k
😢
hard orbit
i sold a bis sentinel idol for 200k
hey, look at the brightside, you made someone happy
hard orbit
I mean imagine scouring the chaotic wasteland that is MG tabs and finding the jackpot
turbid dome
alright, im like level 35 or so as a spellblade and im having trouble doing any appreciable damage to single targets/bosses etc
my waveclear is INSANE but my single target dps is basically whatever i can do with melee.
anyone have any suggestions as to what i can spec into to combat this problem?
unborn hamlet
anyone have any suggestions as to what i can spec into to combat this problem?
im gonna give it to you straight, unless u like the class that much and are willing to suffer playing it
just play literally anything else
spellblade needs serious buffs to even get into the ´´mid´´ category
turbid dome
im gonna give it to you straight, unless u like the class that much and are will...
ouch that bad huh?
unborn hamlet
its just terrible as is
turbid dome
any chance spellblade may get buffs in the future?
unborn hamlet
most likely yes, that is if devs keep their word about trying to balance all classes so they are viable for play
spellblade and forgeguard are just unplayable in the current state of game
even if u really push it, u will flatline at 250-300coruption even with a ´´great´´ build
unborn hamlet
i certainly dont want to discourage you from playing it, im just warning you what ur getting urself into
obsidian reef
anyone have any suggestions as to what i can spec into to combat this problem?
dual wield
and cap crit
spellblade isnt that weak
chillout
stiff crown
Just let him cook
obsidian reef
a bad class is something like forgeguard that needs to rely on other class passives
spellblade is fine as spellblade
barren pawn
brotyher dual wield is so deep into the tree hes gonna be struggling
lilac lodge
There’s vids of Spellblades in 600-1k corruption
barren pawn
yeah, but thats in min maxxed gear, adn they are suffering
don get me wrong, forguard is worse
but spellblade is by no means the class you pick if you want to have it easy or fun / no struggle
obsidian reef
brotyher dual wield is so deep into the tree hes gonna be struggling
should have probably said speccing into melee damage or attack speed
I had no issue levelling at all though
stiff crown
Some people enjoy the challenge. TBH I choose RM by happenstance, but if I were SB, I think I’d enjoy trying to minmax and push as far as I can with a class that is seen as weak. But that is me.
I’m just too far into this RM to swap.
We’re all playing LE while they’re playing a Soulsborne
turbid dome
Some people enjoy the challenge. TBH I choose RM by happenstance, but if I were ...
im new to arpgs and LE especially, like ive got a level 85 lich and im breaking even on level 90 monos
i have very little idea what im doing
i imagine me looking through the gear and crafting system much resembles a chimpanzee trying to play badminton
obsidian reef
LE was my first arpg and spellblade was my first class
you'll be fine
if you're still interested in spellblade that is
stiff crown
Honestly, I think the RM mana strike Spark charge build can convert to SB pretty well. It’ll be less ward and no CFC so you’ll be more squishy, but still should take you to 1000c with the right gear
strange flicker
nothing like starting a mono and moving a tiny bit just to get airstriked and insta dead
safe grail
Spellblades are starting to lean on use of Flame Rush and sphere of protection from RM for additional defense
Seems pretty bad design to me if you cant even rely on your mastery’s trav skill cause it doesn’t offer anything defensively that feels okay to use
Also having the spec be flashy and allowing them to DW but take 9% more dmg is absolutely dogsht design lmao
Class only feels good to play when you play it as LL variant or mana strike spark charge/static and even RM/Sorc do those better
hard orbit
Also having the spec be flashy and allowing them to DW but take 9% more dmg is a...
isnt there a spellblade with dragoraths and enigma? no need to DW
5Head
safe grail
Lmao yeah look down one more comment heh
Builder spender variants of rotations also dont appeal to everyone
Which is predominantly what SB is about
hard orbit
Builder spender variants of rotations also dont appeal to everyone
I mean its not bad but it should have a certain appeal like "ok now im nuking"
safe grail
Yeah and it just str8 doesnt have that
Like you get to the point where you can use shatterstrike or reave w/ mana strike or firebrand and thats it
It’s not like RM where you progress thru builds w/ FC and eventually end up in FC Nova or FC Drags
Which looks and feels nuke-y
Your primary spike of dmg for shatterstrike is getting peak and 2 swords w/ melee crit
hard orbit
not really nukey, dive bomb is nukey
safe grail
It doesnt go much further than that lmao
Since shatterstrike gives you 240% multi from just nodes
hard orbit
do you know if frenzy is a additive or multiplicative with any other cast speed increases?
hard orbit
Cast speed itself is multi
que pasa
safe grail
Equip a cast speed item
Unequip it
It shouldnt be additive
Im pretty sure at least
I cant check atm im at the office
hard orbit
I cant check atm im at the office
same, so my brain is a bit fried, tyvm XD
unborn hamlet
im pretty sure its a multi
when i unequip all my gear the frostclaw is so slow it hurts
and with barely 90% increase i fire off like 5 times a second
strange flicker
doubt theres any mage mastery that cant do atleast 1k corruption w proper builds
the class skills that can go around are pretty strong
stiff crown
isnt there a spellblade with dragoraths and enigma? no need to DW
This is what I’m saying. You’d replace Runic with Enchant Weapon.
vernal finch
prefer static armor or unstable?
knotty wind
do Twisted Heart with LP's are hard to come by? I'm farming like 4 straight days, not even one has come up. current corruption 333
strange flicker
decently common at higher corruption, i get a couple a day usually of the 1 lp
but at lower its prob p annoying
knotty wind
its been pretty annoying bro. at what corruption are you referring to
strange flicker
3k+
knotty wind
I'm at the edge that I would just switch to merchants guild 🙃
strange flicker
i havnt seen a single 2 lp though and its the only timeline i do basically
depends how far u are, merchant is alot better for getting some decent/1lp gear and getting ur builds going
knotty wind
do you know hm gold is it there?
strange flicker
1 lp hearts?
vernal finch
static if ur geared enough
whats considered geared enough? haha, without unstable my frost is only 25, is that good enough? i just remove 1 nova so 2/3 ele n ova?
barren pawn
1lp hearts are like 40 mil? Wdym 10m
vernal finch
like 1m-10m prob depending on stats
i buy mine like 7% for 1-2m, if u patient enough
strange flicker
how 40m, we talkin max stats?
yea
plenty of low
7% 1lp heart prob like 5m tops
barren pawn
aint worth getting if it doesnt have that max % on the literal onyl stat that matters on it 😂
strange flicker
meh the diff is small
glass canopy
what build u runnin on 3k+ ?
glass canopy
ladle or dragorath ?
glass canopy
impresive
strange flicker
am giga stacked on damage compared to the usual frostclaw builds prob for spark
knotty wind
is ladle better than dragorath/
strange flicker
ye
feels better to play too imo
all the free ailments like frailty and stuff ontop of the cast speed
and u can freely play around w ur build mana wise and stuff moreso than dagger
safe grail
Drag’s is cute if you wanna play w/o nova tho
I have been enjoying it and have managed to achieve mana neutrality/positivity with it
stiff crown
Dagger if you’re going melee variant, otherwise ladle
glass canopy
same here, wanna check at least a reference to it
vernal finch
am giga stacked on damage compared to the usual frostclaw builds prob for spark
is 140 int good enough to switch to static armor?
strange flicker
silk pewterBOT
safe grail
Legend. Thanks king