🧙┃mage

[hollow arrow]

then dupe it and see how roll come sout

i'd like to keep CDR

[unborn hamlet]

3LP snowdrifts too, like yeah ok, 0.0027 whatever, you will eventually luck out

But 3LP boss drop nearing the integer numbers , kekW

[hollow arrow]

whats drop rate on 3lp frost

[unborn hamlet]

Something stupid like 0.00001 iirc

1LP ones are already 0.65 iirc

[hollow arrow]

0.016% for 3lp

[unborn hamlet]

I mean 2LP

[hollow arrow]

and i got that on MG

4lp is uhhhh

0.00001%

[unborn hamlet]

0.016 ain't as bad as I thought ngl

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[unborn hamlet]

Oh thought it's 3lP for that

[hollow arrow]

nah

thats 4lp

[unborn hamlet]

I mean look, as long as it's not integer numbers, it's possible

Statistically speaking, 1 in a what is it, Milion? With this people playing on various corruption boosts too? Doable

1 in a trillion or more, nah bro never gonna drop

[hollow arrow]

ye

sacrifical embrace

4lp

integer numbers

lmao

[unborn hamlet]

I remember dropping my first 4LP, being happy even if it was crap, and I look at the chance and it was like 4%

And I was like, bruh, half of my build is more rare with 1LP what is this 😂

The trash fire bow

I need to find t7 armor% chest, with Armor flat, to get back up the Armor number, since I swapped my belt to the GG one, I lost like 700 Armor from it and 12% DMG mitigation, I was like, yeah ward stronk, but you can feel the difference

[quiet drift]

Lightning dam and +level to flame Ward erased mage weavers will.. vendor?

[dusky ingot]

Ey, im new to runemaster, and i was going through different frost claw builds, and there are 3 uniques options that I dont fully understand the decision on.

Why is unstable core used? It says "directly cast" and we dont really ever directly cast elemental nova, so wouldnt an exalted, or a better unique be useful?

In terms of boots, I see blood of the exile used pretty much everywhere and these I really dont understand what they bring to the table, specially with foot of the mountain existing.

And I can understand using prismatic gaze for damage? But wouldnt crest of unity be a better option with +4 on nova and making it tri element?

These are not "complaints" but genuine questions

[unborn hamlet]

Crest of unity is 1: bugged and 2: you don't actually use the Nova itself for dmg

You use it to apply spark charge

[steady sierra]

Ye

[unborn hamlet]

As for unstable core, it's the mana and spell DMG as well as +1 to spells that's why people use it, if you don't need the +1 cos you have something like omnis, it's totally possible to drop the Armor all together but why do that

[steady sierra]

I saw the build he migjt be referencing

[dusky ingot]

Oh i've been using it, what is the bug? Is is not applying the buffs to it it says it is?

[unborn hamlet]

Omnis objectively brings nothing to the table in terms of dps so it's better to just get +1 on the armor

[steady sierra]

I do hope you can try to play runemaster honestly, my head hurt trying to play it

[unborn hamlet]

It's making nova costs much more mana that it should, and as I said, you don't use nova for the dmg

The extra nodes are pretty much worthless

[dusky ingot]

oh the mana would help hit 300 mana right? For some of the idols

[unborn hamlet]

Yes

[steady sierra]

Yea

Getting to 300 mana is a bit of a pain i will say

[unborn hamlet]

Blood of the exile I don't know what they even do so I cant explain the process behind those

[steady sierra]

Im only lvl86 and got to 317 mana, Im still trying to find rings to make my damage higher

[dusky ingot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEMxxlo

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (68)

General:

▸ Health: 1,114, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 280, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 650%, Regen: 58/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 16 Dex / 156 Int / 6 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 70% / 76% / 78% / 66% / 62% / 70%
▸ EHP: 2,091 / 1,991 / 2,091 / 2,381 / 1,774 / 1,712 / 1,833

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 223
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (94)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,543)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Runic Invocation (25)
• Frost Claw (27)
• Flame Ward (22)
• Elemental Nova (25)
• Flame Rush (22)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Unstable Core
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Julra's Stardial
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

This build has a guide:

New Broken Runemaster Endgame Build! Melts 2200+ Corruption & 40K+ Ward Mega Tank! by Mattjestic MultiGaming

[steady sierra]

I'm aboe to throw links here no?

[dusky ingot]

This is the planner i was looking at

boots are in there if you want to check them

[steady sierra]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/fireball-sorcerer-guide

[dusky ingot]

prob just for the +12 int? idk

[steady sierra]

This is what I used

[unborn hamlet]

Ok so you use those for the int

And loads of move speed

That's it

[steady sierra]

Its for int

[unborn hamlet]

All the other stats are useless

[dusky ingot]

mountain gives +8 and inifnite mana for bosses tho

[unborn hamlet]

Movement speed

[steady sierra]

You'll need to move around tho

[unborn hamlet]

30% is a crazy number, basically free t7 move speed

[steady sierra]

Its better to move fast than run like a turtle

[unborn hamlet]

^

[dusky ingot]

yeah agreed honestly, gonna give them a try I have a random lp1 around

[steady sierra]

I learned that the hard way

[unborn hamlet]

You won't understand until you try, once I got that move speed slapped on my snowdrifts I never looked back

Even on boots that would be more dps

[steady sierra]

So now i carry T5 MS

[unborn hamlet]

It felt so damn slow to move around

[dusky ingot]

I'm coming from dive bomb rogue, trust me I miss the movement speed too hahahahah

[steady sierra]

Teleporting makes moving easier, but boots make the difference

[unborn hamlet]

Haste from traversal skill is a strong stat too

[steady sierra]

It is

I finally put it on yesterday and boy it was a grace

[unborn hamlet]

Yeah, I found a T5 max roll speed T5 max roll haste t7 amror t7 health boots yesterday

[steady sierra]

Comfy, di you know what unique wand would be better than cindersong?

[unborn hamlet]

So now I'm looking for new snowdrifts for slam

Won't settle for anything but 3LP(or4)

0.027 for 3LP,

😂

[unborn hamlet]

I don't know what build U use

Cindersong is generally a bad wand

Unless you're playing fireclaw

[steady sierra]

Its this

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/fireball-sorcerer-guide

[unborn hamlet]

Which is just a budget version of frostbite

Oh you're a sorc, not my speciality

[steady sierra]

I'm going off that and Im generally killing my braincells trying to get the gear

Oof you're a rune?

[unborn hamlet]

Can't help, all I can try and tell you to get is Calamity helmet, and uh, the belt that gives +1 meteor

Yea I'm RM

[steady sierra]

I have calamity helm but that held back my damage by A LOT

Its still not enough numbers to easy clear lvl90

[unborn hamlet]

There is 1 fire set ring that's imo a better option to the build

But as I said I'm no sorc

[steady sierra]

Which ring?

[safe grail]

Necroing this a bit; it depends on your gear and build. I went into early monos at level 36 with the right gear and was fine blasting levels the whole time

The most OP items in early spellblades gearset os 2x Humming Bees

[royal gull]

goddamn. Ok that took too many tries, rematch with squid god was rough

Just so many ways to get stunned into 2 hit death

[hard orbit]

• bonk *

[royal gull]

I don't have a long range enough build to just stand on the stairs and finish it quickly, so I was doing 1/2 my real dps the whole fight

Missing my 2 main uniques still as well

[safe grail]

@steady sierra i can throw on my gear on my sorc in a bit and show you how i’d build it

[steady sierra]

Fireball sorc? Similar to the build i linked?

[safe grail]

Yes. I have a sorc and a fair bit of fire gear

[steady sierra]

Oo okay ty

I'll be waiting and will reference from it later

[safe grail]

Sure. Just for general points though, maxroll is considered okay to follow for leveling but beyond that you wanna find stuff elsewhere like youtube and LE tools

[royal gull]

I like what I'm doing, but it feels like a looooooong wait between upgrades already and I'm only 72

Desire to take my pile of uniques and use them on other characters is growing

[safe grail]

I still have no idea what homebrew youre doing lol

[royal gull]

I pushed onward and level 80 zone is easy again, it was only Lagon the Sequel that was hard

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApLVWxeA

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 73

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (12) / Runemaster (54)

General:

▸ Health: 1,159, Regen: 18/s
▸ Mana: 234, Regen: 13/s
▸ Ward Retention: 240%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 1 Dex / 65 Int / 1 Att / 12 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 107% / 113% / 68% / 66% / 64% / 65%
▸ EHP: 1,421 / 1,421 / 1,421 / 1,402 / 1,301 / 1,272 / 1,283

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 255
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (379)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Rush (20)
• Frost Wall (20)
• Runic Invocation (20)
• Lightning Blast (20)
• Glacier (20)

Used unique items:

• Isadora's Gravechill

[royal gull]

@safe grail I just reimported it for you

I need my offhand that casts Blizzard with Frost Wall and the boots

Also just.. better gear all around

[safe grail]

yeah there's too much going on there to comment on lol

[royal gull]

Glacier to give myself Rime buff for 6 seconds / stun things, Frost Wall to do damage / control / shoot more cold Lightning Blasts, cold Flame Rush with cold Brand and casts Invocation / shreds cold res, LB I self cast to fill runes / save mana when necessary

Runic Invocation doesn't need manually cast unless I want to use it as a proper teleport effect

The problem with Squidward is that I have a LOT of dps tied to Flame Rush and it was dangerous to use it on cooldown against him

While in the L80 map I just cast Frost Wall -> Flame Rush past it and explode, everything dies

Also probably would have helped against Lagon if I had 3rd explosion in Glacier enabled, but mana issues until my gear is better

I spend 30~ mana per second while pumping and only regen 13

[safe grail]

idk what your end-game goals are

if you plan to step into empowered or not

[royal gull]

Well this is the furthest I've ever been so I guess I'm just taking it as far as I can

[safe grail]

ah okay that makes sense

[royal gull]

I know it will be a lot stronger with those 2 uniques I'm missing 😦

[stiff crown]

Bro is playing D&D without the PHB or DMG.

[hollow arrow]

[stiff crown]

Bro has 156 INT, but the builder says he's only getting 450% spell crit from Calculated Destruction. Shouldn't he be getting 156*3=468? Is the builder wrong or am I tweaking. I've noticed this on other builds too

Also, things get more significant figures on the builder. Like crit values in game are whole numbers, but the builder shows 2 decimal spots. I wish the game showed you. Kinda awkward trying to decide if someone is selling a 3.50% crit Dragorath's or a 4.00% because they both show 4% in game.

[topaz spade]

shouldnt lightning blast chains back to enemy if it chains from enemy to you, gives you buffs? i tested it on dummy and it chains just enemy to me, it should chain right back if you have more than 1 chain, right?

[royal gull]

Frustrating, I'm getting so many uniques for Necro and any class but Mage 😛

I've actually found 5 uniques for Acolyte and Rogue skills each, and only 4 that are Mage specific

4 that are Primalist and 4 that are Sentinel

[stiff crown]

LB only chains to enemies once AFAIK. It doesn't "bounce" back. Imagine it forming a link (or chain) but never looping back.

[hard orbit]

for a lightning spell, lets say lightning blast, 50% spell damage increase and 50% lightning damage increase are one and the same?

[royal gull]

@sturdy summit I'm still at it, haven't changed the build and beat Squidward Round 2

[safe grail]

bro i have no idea wtf im doing w/ this sorc fireball/meteor build

but its kinda fun

[topaz spade]

makes sense but it should bounce back from you to enemy, for example if there is just one enemy, and you got 4 chains on LB, logically it should go enemy-you-enemy-you 🙂 but it would be OP i guess

[stiff crown]

Looks like the calculator doesn't take into account the 6 INT from Mental Catalysis. So you get 18% decreased crit chance and 24% decreased INT scaling damage on the calculator

[royal gull]

Finally got Snowdrift 😮

Now I just need my offhand

Ok but seriously what is up with invisible enemies? Can I fix this with a reinstall or something?

[safe grail]

can try verifying yeah

aight i might've cooked up something spicy w/ this fireball meteor build lmao

[stiff crown]

If you can’t get 350c, you’re wrong

[safe grail]

that'll be at least the goal

i dont even have emp monos yet on my fkn sorc lmfao

and missing 9 levels is kinda big too

that's 72% more crit multi

RIP another 3 LP Cinder

gdi

i just need one of these to hit cast speed lol

FIANLLY

after like 4x 3 LP Cinders

[royal gull]

Only 4 more monoliths left

[safe grail]

i hit one w/ crit multi, t6 cast speed AND ignite

lmao

[royal gull]

then the real game begins

I don't super duper understand why they gave bosses inflated hp and just made them super sponges when everything else dies in .2 seconds in maps

[safe grail]

to give you something of a wall

but also your build probably won't scale much further than what you're already doing

[royal gull]

I heard someone complain that the game nerfs your damage to normalize it against bosses so you literally can't finish them quickly no matter how high your dps is, is that true?

[safe grail]

yes

boss DR kicks in earlier if your dmg is signficantly higher

[royal gull]

I don't know if that is what is happening or if the boss just has as much HP as an entire arena worth of enemies

[safe grail]

with your build probably not.

lol

[stiff crown]

I feel like spamming Flame Rush on cooldown to get a frenzy buff for 2 seconds is a DPS loss for me

[safe grail]

you need the exp boots

for it to be worth

i get like 4 seconds of frenzy

[stiff crown]

I need LP4 Steps

[hard orbit]

that sounds very reasonable

[stiff crown]

Chance is technically greater than 0%

[safe grail]

yo i just made the most sick armor wtf.
https://imgur.com/QWWjSsS

this thing is fkn cracked holy hell

[hard orbit]

hot damn

[safe grail]

yeah thing is kinda nuts tbch

[stiff crown]

That's pretty good. I'll check if I have any T7 fireball armor when I get home tonight for your build

[safe grail]

appreciate that

im just yoloing this since @steady sierra was asking some stuff earlier

and like

[stiff crown]

I feel like it should be pretty cheap on the market since few are going fire build

[safe grail]

i wanted to see how i can build up a fire ball build

[stiff crown]

You might be able to pick up some LP4 fire uniques cheap

[safe grail]

so 4 LP Cinder is

expensive

im fairly confident a 4 LP Calamity wouldn't be expensive either

2 LP bute w/ the lowest int and dex rolls of my life

fk

[royal gull]

Might go back to my Spellblade with the uniques and what I've learned after this peaks

Is there anything about the monoliths that carries over between characters?

[safe grail]

nothing.

[royal gull]

Whew. What a grind

[safe grail]

idk if the catch-up mechanic applies for empowered monos across toons either

[hard orbit]

kinda confused about some damage calculation: spark charge is an ailment and a spell as well?

[stiff crown]

I guess it’s like a spell that applies an ailment like a time bomb

[hard orbit]

which is a hit and crits and is affected by crit multi

[stiff crown]

Yea

[hard orbit]

and is double dipping on intelligence if you have fragment of the enigma (% damage increase and flat damage increase)

[stiff crown]

The damage portion is a hit, but applying the ailment doesn’t count

[hard orbit]

double dipping as in it scales 4% with int but also its flat damage is increased

[safe grail]

it's a spell w/ tags

[nimble shoal]

The part that actually deals damage is just a spell, but the thing that procs the spell (and the thing that your skills can apply) is an ailment that just also happens to have the same name.

The spark charge ailment does not transfer any stats from the skill that applies it to the spark charge spell that it casts, unlike normal procs. Ailment effect (seen in skill trees as spark charge deals X% more damage) is all that matters from the applying skill.

[opal mountain]

That's most skills embedded with skill trees. They all have the Int scale if you hold down alt. Not sure I'd call that double dipping

[nimble shoal]

Most skills don't scale quadratically with attributes, spark charge does

with the item ofc

[hard orbit]

you lost me a bit there

[spare phoenix]

Alright Mage team, I've got a decent (hopefully) problem that needs help solving.

Utilizing Calvern's sceptre with Frag. of Enigma. What are some ways I can maintain a healthy level of Mana BUT NOT actually hitting full mana while spamming FC? Currently I'm at
Mana Regen: 11
FC cost: 14 (with foot of Mountain boots)
Nova Cost: 0

[opal mountain]

Def need to see this in other characters. Its awesome

[nimble shoal]

Usually when you proc a skill with another skill or apply an ailment, all stats are passed down from the skill you used. So like fireball has a node that gives it 7% more damage per point, that damage also applies to ignites inflicted by fireball.

[safe grail]

I have no idea what item you are talking about unfortunately.

However, FC's mana issues are almost entirely solved by ensuring you are specced right

[hard orbit]

oooooooooh didnt know that! but it still gets my bonus spelldamage and lightning damage?

[safe grail]

we won't be able to help you unless you import your build and link it here

[opal mountain]

There's a calculator online, but its actually pretty easy to balance if you read the tree.

[hard orbit]

I think he means culnivars claim

[safe grail]

OH

you shouldn't use that

plain and simple lmao

[nimble shoal]

Yeah, so since Spark Charge is cast directly from the player, it gets its own stats calculated at the time it's procced bassed on whatever your stats are at that moment

[spare phoenix]

Lol.. damn wrong name. This^^

[safe grail]

Yeah dont use that item w/ FC

[spare phoenix]

But I want to try and make it work.. right now I'm out damaging LB version by atleast 4x

[safe grail]

LB does less dmg than FC until scaled correctly, so yeah.

The problem w/ the sceptre is, you will always regen to 100% out of combat

which means you will get into combat w/ 0 mana

[hard orbit]

oh uuuuum ok I was thinking about burst windows with julra rings but maybe on these 4seconds I dont have as many spark charges on the enemy

[spare phoenix]

My current issue is OOM while in combat.. I'm refilling my mana too fast ..

[safe grail]

Yeah that's why that item won't work w/ FC

[shell fern]

How does culnivars claim interract with fractured crown? Does it just drain the mana?

[safe grail]

you mean the drain from culnivars?

[spare phoenix]

You'd die so fast...

[shell fern]

yea, since you can't have ward with fractured crown does it still drain the mana?

[spare phoenix]

But I like the thought. Ima try it lol

[safe grail]

I'd suspect so. Culnviar's just says it converts to ward when you hit 100%

so it'd just drain you to 0

But yeah, by and large, Culnivar's is not an item to use w/ FC at all. It will cause more harm than good.

[stiff crown]

Just get more speed

[hard orbit]

I mean, I do but its not "guaranteed" that you'll have x ammount of spark charges on the boss at that 4second window

[nimble shoal]

LB pops spark charges on hit if you spec it that way, which helps keep stuff in small windows like that and flame ward

[hard orbit]

LB? * aw hell naw *

[nimble shoal]

but yeah, otherwise it's not super important probably unless you are really trying to hyperoptimize

just hit more, and you have more spark charges

[stiff crown]

Usually when you use a traversal skill, you are in a safe position to keep attacking for 4+ second unless you completely goofed

[hard orbit]

I have 2 godly julras with 16int and lightning damage and 2 1lp atlarias( A LOT OF PROPHECIES LATER) with mismatch of stats and im wondering if the damage boost from 2 julras is worth it or if I should mix em or if I should go 2 atlarias for the sheer defense boost

[stiff crown]

Just use Oceareon with Int slam. Does about the same DPS with no traversal skill requirement

[nimble shoal]

I'd probably just use red rings tbh, unless you are hurting for damage

[hard orbit]

what? how

[stiff crown]

The damage multiplier is multiplicative

"more"

[hard orbit]

oh, 20% then

thats pretty nice

[stiff crown]

You can calculate it if you want. Do a set with Julras. 3x stats with 1/3 weight, then regular stats with 2/3 weight. And add together. Then do it again with Oceareon

[nimble shoal]

Or, just be silly and for for dual invokers for that ward on hit lol

[hard orbit]

lmao

[stiff crown]

Since neither rings affect your speed (I don't think), you just need to see what the per hit damage is and not dps

You didn't even need to know your base since that's not changing either

Just anything that scales with int, then your spell/lightning increased damage

[hardy loom]

never liked the 4sec buff and 12sec cd on julra rings

rather use ocearons

or just exalt rings like a poor peasant

[hard orbit]

the int alone is 28ish on average compared to 10 int of red ring

wait, I goofed, 5 int per red ring

thats a lot of int dif

which is a lot of spark charge added and increased damage and a lot of ward retention

[stiff crown]

I'm not talking about red ring vs Julra. I'm taking Oceareon vs Julra

[hard orbit]

oooooh oh oh ok ok I see

[nimble shoal]

Red ring got that move speed though

[hard orbit]

red ring is godly in helping also balance dem resistances

[stiff crown]

I run 1 red and 1 Julra, but I just inspired myself to run the damage comparison calculations vs Oceareon

[hard orbit]

brain is fried atm, do tell

[stiff crown]

I'll let you know when I do it. Going to a parent teacher conference

But it'll depend on your build

[shell fern]

i'd imagine julra is better burst but oceareon better sustained dps

[stiff crown]

So my results will be different from yours

[nimble shoal]

Oceareon gonna be better at a certain level of investment just because it's multiplicative, but idk where the line is

[stiff crown]

The line is 10% multiplicative damage 😛

[hard orbit]

20 no?

[stiff crown]

Per

I only use 1

Since Red is my other

[hard orbit]

ah, mb

[hard orbit]

surely I'll manage to slam int on it despair

[whole gazelle]

Blessings may be my least favorite grind in LE. 100-300 corruption in Black Sun and haven't seen a single crit multi blessing.

[wet lintel]

have you tried burning sage at the height of the full moon

[whole gazelle]

Keep seeing the same blessings, so paranoid I just reset the whole game >.<
I'll do sage if I reach 400 corruption.

[wet lintel]

Yeahhh it took me like 15 boss runs in the same monolith to hit spell damage leeched as health

And then I reset it for crit multi

[stiff crown]

Get an LP4 for guaranteed slam
Ez

[safe grail]

ez

skill issue

[hard orbit]

true and right

[safe grail]

lads

pushing roughly 280% Cast speed w/ fireball lol

[hollow arrow]

noice

[full bluff]

I am playing the classic teleport+nova build from D2

Kind of works on sorcerer 🙂

[hollow arrow]

hmmmm time to check AH

[rich badger]

how did "slam" become the popularized term

[crimson raft]

PoE i think? Slamming exalts 😄

[stiff crown]

Sounds better than the slap

[rich badger]

or smush

[opal mountain]

Skills embedded in other skills have their own stat support. Just hold down Alt when you mouse over it in the Elemental Nova tree. Scaling tags are lightening/spell/area/int

[safe grail]

I'd 100% believe this.

[hard orbit]

Wait so what about skills that proc from other skills? Do the nodes from frost claw somehow affect my nova that is procced by it?

[mint pine]

how can you tell when you freeze enemies?

[crimson raft]

They stop, and turn blue

[hollow arrow]

they turn into ex

then start moving again

[tulip sinew]

Does the mage passive which gives ward when health drops below 70% give one shot immunity or will the mage die if the damage is over health+ward gained from passive?

[nimble shoal]

You will die if the hit brings you to 0 health, the passive's ward gain comes after the hit that procs it so that doesn't help at all. There is no reliable one-shot immunity mechanic in this game as far as I know.

[soft elm]

Any link to updated RM frostclaw FB without the +3/4 relic?

[calm night]

i heard that paypaling a HH-support paladin is a very reliable one-shot immunity 😂

[mint pine]

hmm maybe its my graphics settings but hard to tell if its stun or freeze

[crimson raft]

stun usually has this cartoon style yellow circle star thingy

[mint pine]

ah whole time assumed both stun and freeze had the swirly, ty

just hard to tell when Shatter Strike executes

nah i swear freeze does the same thing, just pressing snap freeze its always a swirly if they're cc'd

[full bluff]

The elemental nova classic, turned into a speed farm build: 2 sec cooldown teleport + elemental novas + chain reaction + quick ring

[safe grail]

chain reaction?

[full bluff]

Spark charges and spark novas triggering eachother into a chain reaction

[safe grail]

oh ya forgot spark nova exists in the Sorc tree

[full bluff]

Now I just teleport and run with mobs after me, casting frost claw hitting behind me and killing with the chain reaction

[safe grail]

yeah

[full bluff]

The lake map is the best

[prime moon]

so playing frostclaw Nova build ----following a guide (have checked others) ---- My question is about "Band of Deception" passive ....it's required 15 mana to apply .....frostclaw does not cost me 15 mana

[surreal root]

dear EHG, willing to buy phasing affix for boots or somewhere, mobs getting in my way is annoying

@prime moon full upgraded frostclaw will, or you need to make frostclaw more expensive

[safe grail]

you're playing it wrong then 🙂

FC will have over 15 mana cost when skilled correctly.

[hollow arrow]

oof i need to lvl my alt

[safe grail]

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qexz0b5A

If anyone cares about playing a lil Fireball sorc; Disclaimer I have not stepped into Emp monos quite yet
@steady sierra this is how i'd play fireball

[hollow arrow]

how is fireball sorc

[safe grail]

kinda fun, no idea how it'll do in Emps

but

[hollow arrow]

lol those idols

thats how ya get the cast spd

but nice

[safe grail]

😉

[hollow arrow]

looks solid tbh

[safe grail]

gotta get crafty yo

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[safe grail]

aegis is kinda nice to get big DR from consistently lol

[hollow arrow]

isnt there a fire pen idol thats 3x1?

[safe grail]

fk do i need fire pen for? I get 75% of it from meteor lol

[hollow arrow]

ah right i forgot about meteor

never see it used tbh lmao

[safe grail]

I get 100% Shred from fireball and 75% pen from meteor

[neon lynx]

the famous last words of 99% of homebrewed builds

[safe grail]

YERPPPPP

can't wait for it to brick

lmfao

[hollow arrow]

ye let us know how it goes lmao

[safe grail]

lmao

[neon lynx]

that shits always so funny

some new guy comes into chat

[safe grail]

oh yeah i have like

zero expectations lmao

[neon lynx]

"guys i have this op new build i made, its COOKIN through the campaign and normal monos"

[safe grail]

LMFAO

hahahahaha

true

[neon lynx]

1 day later

guys i need a new build

[hollow arrow]

[safe grail]

insert anyone that follows ragegamingvideos here

[hollow arrow]

i always laugh at those titles

"OP BUILD, CLEAR 200 CORR SUPER FAST"

[neon lynx]

brother i swear

if u go look at any old LE videos

from pre 1.0

they are all like that

[safe grail]

okay hold tho

[hollow arrow]

or talks about how good a build is, and starts doing runs with it. and it's like 150 corr lmao

[safe grail]

Account for the fact they changed scaling

considerably.

[neon lynx]

youd look at like "end game corruption pushing" videos

and dudes would still be leveling their characters

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[safe grail]

THAT is different

[neon lynx]

thats what they all were

lol

ive owned LE for about uh

idk year and a half now

guides and yt videos

were all 100% useless

until 1.0

lol

[hollow arrow]

i got LE when it first entered EA

and i can say after playing it back then and seeing how much it kept changing each update

i decided to wait till full release before i try anything

lmao

[neon lynx]

i tried to go onto maxroll when i first downloaded the game

just for u know

a guide for my first play through kinda sht

and i was like

OMG ALL OF THIS IS USELESS! lol

[safe grail]

lol

[hollow arrow]

lmao i did maxroll when 1.0 came out

was lvlling vk

was SLOW, and wondered why

yeah they had the worst affix's/skills put on there

using all blues, no uniques to help lvl

would've been nice knowing like how the torch is

that pretty much speedlevels you through content lmao

[stiff crown]

Yeah, when I checked people's video guides. They would showcase level 70 stuff with like 100c, but at the same time have a misleading title and thumbnail

[tardy comet]

The torch is the weapon flame on hit?

[hollow arrow]

yeah the scepter

used that on all my alts, makes lvling with them a breeze

makes me wanna do a paladin warpath build with fire dmg

hmmm

ooof

some guy got 4lp jelkors from arbor

it duped 4 times cuz of the modifiers

lmao

[safe grail]

<@&1082357055484071997> <@&1161418687471956101> yall know what to do lmao

[calm night]

still no automoderator settings, or discord invite link / embed setting set correctly zZz

[hollow arrow]

thanks mods lmao

[vivid tundra]

When playing sorcerer, I only use Mage skills

Sorcerer skills really need to be buffed

I tried to come up with something interesting, but just went back to the base skills

[calm night]

meteor build is doing alright

[safe grail]

wdym, there's plenty of automodding.

just try to say explosion

😮

it works?!

explode

😮 😮 😮

[vivid tundra]

takes 900% damage efficiency to be alright...

[calm night]

what does damage effectiveness have to do with that?
its not sorcerer thats the issue, but runemaster just being too good

sorcerer is pretty middle of the pack i'd say. which is fine for how they probably want classes to be balanced

[safe grail]

it's kind of both actually

[vivid tundra]

Im saying that the mage base skills don't have the same issue

[safe grail]

sorc needs love for sure and brought into the modern era and RM needs to be brought down a bit

while also bringing up runic invo and runebolt considerably.

[neon lynx]

i thought sorc was better than rm

[safe grail]

can do more dmg

def cant do more ward

lol

[neon lynx]

who need ward

when u can wear armor rings

[safe grail]

also cannot get more DR

[stiff crown]

Either I screwed up badly, or for my current build, 1LP Oceareon does as much as 1LP Julra with moderate spell damage if traversal skill is used every 15 seconds. This does not include time lost for actually using a traversal skill though. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1usAEW5smR15yfOiXXSV32monSCqtp8sPj2Hw0tL6zAY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[neon lynx]

aint flame dash instant if u just tap it

[stiff crown]

It still takes frames

[unborn hamlet]

The thing about RM is that's it's not even remotely close to the real overpowered classes

Kek dive bomb falconers

[hard orbit]

die bomb falconers?

[unborn hamlet]

Dive

It's like a 2 button build that flies across echos at light speed and deletes everything you see

[hard orbit]

it was a pun cause dive bomb falconer doesnt have glorious 40k wards

[tardy comet]

Lol you must like the new paladin build then. 100k ward

[unborn hamlet]

People say ward is overpowered, no, ward is not the issue, it's the items that allows you to generate ward in the first place

[hard orbit]

0 single target stay afk on a boss for 3 minutes? looks lovely 😛

[tardy comet]

Immortal though

Just sent it on auto cast and come back

[glass canopy]

While u killin that boss others finish 4 more echoes

[hollow arrow]

everything is immortal

[sullen umbra]

I have run into some interesting irony with my runemaster... experimenting both with and with out a crack in the ice node results in better mana conservation with A crack in the ice allocated from the extra casts proccing gift of winter than with out it lol... either way my next focus for an item upgrade is the sceptre...

[hollow arrow]

came with your git gud skills

[hard orbit]

still but at the end of the day, you must like what you play aesthetically and visually, I prefer Sparkles McExplodeface

[tardy comet]

I agree I like visually lightning theme

Milking DA MM right now

But I’m hoping an OP build from mage lightning in future

[hard orbit]

oooooooh, daring today, aren't we?

[sullen umbra]

speaking of item chasing, there are 2 or 3 uniques that are good for frostbite frost claw that are monolith boss drops, including the relic from reign of dragons... is there any timeline that would be better to farm for a Sceptre with t6+ -mana cost?

[hard orbit]

If we're talking about other builds, I really wanted the ballista turret build to work but it feels so squishy compared to other stuff.

Basically like my minions going ratatatata, but I die so they cant go ratatatata, so I went runemaster spark charge so I can go ratatatata and not die.

Unga-bunga.

[tardy comet]

They need to make minion immortal with a timer

It’s annoying to make minion and yourself tanky. Not enough stats around to tank and dps

[hard orbit]

but you use traversal every 12 seconds, not 15.

[hard orbit]

and why the crit chance on rings?

[steady idol]

Is plasma Orb considered a dot?

[stiff crown]

I did 15 to build a buffer because chances are you aren’t going to do it exactly on 12. It’s to simulate a real scenario and in a way account for skill delay.

I put on crit because I wanted to see how it compares, and why not if I already have the template built

You can always fiddle with the values

Obviously decreasing the time will increase damage for Jules

[hard orbit]

Ill copy your glorious math and experiment as well

[stiff crown]

🫡

[quiet drift]

got a 13% frost claw effiency relic with 8% armour and 8% mana, price on this?

[stiff crown]

Disclaimer, I may have messed up but I don’t think I did

[hollow arrow]

check market on those affix's and check the prices

it's always changing on those so

[quiet drift]

yep already have and its alot right

lookin at 200m unless im trippin

listed for that

near max roll 😄

[hard orbit]

and thanks for going to all that trouble XD

[muted kindle]

elemental damage or lightning damage?

for lightning frost claw RM

i'm assuming lightning has more value

[hollow arrow]

damn 4lp stormhide gloves

aint worth nothing lmao

[full bluff]

Anyone know where I can find info on boss adaptive damage reduction, so I can try avoid it?

[hard orbit]

single element will have bigger affixes compared to "elemental"

[toxic anvil]

I'm working on Hydra for my Mage. What happens if I change my Runebolt for the Static? or it won't work?

[woven rover]

How rare are +frost claw affix to come across? Got like 30 hours of farming a catalyst for it and have had any luck

[safe grail]

Relic

They spawn on relics

[woven rover]

Err year relic, idk why I said catalyst lol

[safe grail]

Lol

[hollow arrow]

2lp ocearon

x2

throw those at my freeze rm or sell maybe

[safe grail]

Lmao. I need to get back to farming

[hollow arrow]

im doin arbor with my last 100m

see if i make any big sells

Either do unique dupes, or try for good exalted

[pseudo crow]

Hello guys, I'm following this guide here
https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/novaclaw-spark-charge-runemaster
I'm currently lv 54 but i keep ran out of mana sooooooo fast and IDK what good items to get tbh, any tips? I've just 100k gold for now

[hollow arrow]

make sure gift of winter is 3/3 on frost claw

youc an also get frozen reign for another -3

should help your mana issues while leveling

[pseudo crow]

alright will consider maxing the gift of winter in next couple of levels

[safe grail]

You probably cant play the build without needing to get mana back thru mana strike or runebolt

[full bluff]

My dps is reduced by 50% on the last 30% on a boss, compared to the first 30%.

75% on the middle

[robust junco]

Did you give the boss Endurance ?

[full bluff]

No

But maybe they have built in endurance

[nimble shoal]

They have adaptive damage reduction, which is pretty similar to endurance

[full bluff]

yeah figured there was something like that, testing to see if I can find an optimal way to play it, just stacking more damage does nothing it seems

[nimble shoal]

The only play against it is kill threshold

as a mage, I think your only option is like, Last Laugh as a weapon swap?

[full bluff]

More thinking of building defense instead of damage, if the damage does little to improve the fight

[nimble shoal]

I see what you mean; yeah, stacking more damage always makes the fight shorter, but it does have slight diminishing returns. If you can't stack enough to trivialize the boss, then yeah having reasonable defenses is really helpful

[quiet drift]

i think i just found one of the better FC relics around - this has to be worth moneys https://imgur.com/tnClTM7

not t7 though sadgers

[neon lynx]

Wat

[hollow arrow]

like 40m prolly

or 50m

still avg for +3

+4 is the money rn at 300-400m

[muted kindle]

uhkeiros vs knowledge of an erased mage?

[crimson raft]

Twisted heart for tankyness

Unless you're ward as lost health % thing, then you don't really want that

[royal gull]

So how does Sorcerer deal with using 60-80 mana per cast?

[quiet drift]

become a gigachad like me with 15static orbs before going oom

into -mana focus proc

[full bluff]

You cast less, use a mana generator skill or mana regen, teleport can be used for a free cast every 4-6sec

[royal gull]

So does every big mana build use Focus to recover?

Or can you stack enough regen? Right now I'm at like -30 mana per second when going full on, but only regen 10

But that is with Glacier -80% cost node, which I want to drop so I have the biggest explosion again

I saw Runebolt can recover mana, maybe I should change to that again

[full bluff]

Glacier can regen mana on crit

Runebolt is great generator if you are a runemaster

[royal gull]

I'm full upper left side though, almost 20 points on the dot so I am not building crit

[obtuse reef]

o.o dots? so cast once and let dots do the work, shldnt be casting too much

[royal gull]

They stack

[steady sierra]

@safe grail whats the build for fire btw, im home

[obtuse reef]

ah

[royal gull]

Every cast generates a big aoe that does damage over time in addition to the basic hits, and those aoes stack

They all do the same damage as each other though

[obtuse reef]

consider frost wall doenst solve much nvm

[royal gull]

Glacier itself is just so strong though that I don't want to lose the final spike because it gives so much range

I have Frost Wall 🙂 I will maybe try Runebolt

[full bluff]

I had some sucess with Arcane Ascendance for cutting mana cost

but thats sorcerer

[obtuse reef]

im running frost wall, glacier (2 casts only) and glyph for my tri ele build atm

[royal gull]

I was back on Lightning Blast because I liked my Frost Wall casting it, but maybe I need to focus on that slot as a generator not a damage source since I have Glacier

[obtuse reef]

theres so much "mana refund" that it all adds up. Once i figure out how to sustain 3 mana glacier, ill probably drop that node

[royal gull]

The casts from Frost Wall just aren't that important or frequent

But if I took all the mana nodes on Runebolt I would not have any mana issues

[obtuse reef]

yeah except runebolt hits pretty lackluster imo, 100% added effectiveness and doesnt scale too well

i tried :/

[royal gull]

That is why I don't use it for damage, just building

Glacier gets hit 3 back and is my main spender

Also I can make it apply a lot of Frostbite with the Armour Shred node and my passive

[full bluff]

Rune bolt has Runeweave that gives you a 3 second buff, more damage, mana regen and ward

So it compensates a bit for having to cast it

[royal gull]

It also can just generate 18 mana on hit every cast

I'm only firing Cold bolts

[full bluff]

and Unsealed Mana in passives

3x 0 cost cast = 15 mana

[royal gull]

Yeah, the 3 second Cooldown was why I stopped using that, but when I have the points I might take it again

I guess it counts as 5 mana per second, which is frankly worthless compared to 18 per Runebolt

Thanks all, I think we solved it

(my cast speed gets pretty nutty when I'm on full blast)

[safe grail]

@steady sierra

[steady sierra]

tyty <3

[old vine]

Are there any prophecies that can increase twisted heart drop rate from the boss?

[inner tinsel]

Nope, only the corruption boosts the drop rate supposedly

[old vine]

Damn ok that’s I figured. What about the mad alchemist ladle that only drops from Mages?

[calm night]

you could try tarot. in real live that is.
not ingame tho.

[safe grail]

I just stepped into emp monos so. No clue how itll fair

[inner tinsel]

Same as boss drop

[old vine]

Damn

[royal gull]

Does "Cold Damage over Time" buff persistent effects like Frost Wall and Blizzard, and Frostbite?

[waxen shoal]

what is the best sorc lvling build? the maxroll one?

[calm night]

i'd guess spreading inferno fireball with twink DoT/Fire legendaries. 1shots any pack with a single fireball cast all the way including regular monos, depending on how good your twink gear is.

[waxen shoal]

is there a build link?

[errant plank]

can you play rn? ive an issue with steam cloud sync 😒

[calm night]

thats how i level my mages anyhow, regardless of which spec i go. i just respec at level 60-80 for whatever the real build is gonna be.

[full bluff]

I saw a video of the head of maxroll trying out the maxroll leveling guide for mage/sorcerer, didn't go well 🙂

[grave goblet]

Sorry if its a dumb question, but whats the slider bar on my ward bar mean? the little notch that goes down when i gain ward

[calm night]

you mean blue sweatshirt guy? i have no idea what his actual name is, but thats what everyone in my friendsgroup knows him as LOL

[calm night]

1k ward

[grave goblet]

The little ticker thing?

its almost like a clock hand or something

[calm night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/214512799567708160/1221398757485314098/image.png?ex=66126f3c&is=65fffa3c&hm=71a58e43878e71536571a337d22614df284014b6ca44a756b867262fc92f26bf&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

yes. 1 line for every 1k ward. there will be more, the more ward you gain.

[full bluff]

Yea, Ryan, he was swearing non-stop about how bad sorcerer is. Was funny.

[calm night]

i only ever level mage subclasses as mage with fireball for spreading flames, so i dunno how bad it could be really

[grave goblet]

GOOD LORD 60k ward?!

[inner tinsel]

Is sorc really that bad? I heard people swear left to right saying it’s trash compared to rm

[calm night]

it is, compared to rm

but there's not many things that arent, compared to rm

[inner tinsel]

Some class reach 100k EFFORTLESSLY, looking at healing hands

[calm night]

falconer and warlock. but thats about it more or less.

[full bluff]

Sorcerer is not bad, just a bit worse than runemaster in some ways.

[grave goblet]

Thats insane. but so cool

[paper finch]

I thought I was doing good.... I was clearly mistaken

[stiff crown]

I know him as that condescending guy

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[verbal juniper]

are frostclaw builds currently bugged?

[unborn hamlet]

wdym bugged

[proper hawk]

@grave goblet This is inaccurate, each line represents a full health bar. If you have 1k life, each segment will represent 1k ward yes, but if you have 2k or 3k maximum health, each segment will represent that amount of ward instead.

[calm night]

wait, is that actually the case?

[proper hawk]

yeah

its more obvious if you play a LL build, since you stack up max life on those

[calm night]

i thought i was 100% correct with 1 bar = 1k health.
but i guess not.

i mostly just play LL, but i dont really look at my health anymore when i switch

[verbal juniper]

I mean if the build uses a bug to perform

[sturdy summit]

you can tell it's correct because the ward bar starts with the max as your total health, and it only gets a bar when you go above your max health

[unborn hamlet]

the only bug RM had was patched , and it was a node nobody used anyway

[calm night]

o yeah it does. TIL

[unborn hamlet]

RM´s kit is just overloaded, because its a new class, but seeing some other classes, RM is not even ´´that strong´´ in comparison

[full bluff]

There was a bug with elemental nova that got fixed, it really enabled the frost claw + nova builds to shine

(the fix made the build work)

[unborn hamlet]

i think he meant if the RM is performing cos of bugs

which the answer is no

RM just has easy use of the great ward generating synergies as well as having a lot of ward directly knitted into the skill kits

[proper hawk]

i think i missed this, what was the bug?

[unborn hamlet]

when will they fix crest of unity bug tho?

[full bluff]

Elemental nova only got a visual effect from +area, not actual hit area. When thay got fixed, you could really start using the aoe

[proper hawk]

oh, nice

[proper hawk]

crest of unity bug?

[unborn hamlet]

for whatever reason it increases the mana cost of ele nova

i know it makes the nova tri-elemental, but it doesnt state anywhere the mana cost will go up

[full bluff]

I don't see any difference with crest of unity on for the mana cost

any special conditions for it to happen?

[surreal root]

It's going to increase because your technically casting three ele Nova at once

[barren pawn]

raxx

[proper hawk]

thats not how it works, its only 1 ele nova, its the same ele nova as when you have no specific element unlocked on the tree

[surreal root]

Oh gotcha

[proper hawk]

I wish it tripled my cast speed lmao

[teal trench]

If I bring a lower level friend into a 200+ corruption Orobys, can they get Omnis to drop for them?

[safe grail]

aight time to figure out more fireball shenanigans

[stiff crown]

He who shall not be named

[stiff crown]

What gear you looking for? Typical gear?

DMG, cast speed, crit, res, hp? Or you doing something special?

[safe grail]

lemme drop the planner so you can see what i have going on

after a bit of research, i think SMK did something similar.

[stiff crown]

I'm still at in laws but I can check in an hour or so

[safe grail]

yaya ofc. it's just a whole concept im toying w/ that's all

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8keRG5o

I think in this i will likely want a 3 LP Calamity and a 3 LP unstable.

but 3 LP Unstable is practically non-existent.

same for even say a 3 LP Prism wraps

[stiff crown]

Would Ashes of Mortality work?

[safe grail]

oh ya. wrong ring

ty

[stiff crown]

Lol

[safe grail]

i was toying w/ some stuff lol

[stiff crown]

What about Liath's Glove

[safe grail]

the lightning convert one? nah.

[stiff crown]

🐸

[safe grail]

so when you convert half the dmg to lightning

it fks the calculations

HARD

like i mean yeah chunk of the dmg scales w/ lightning then but

i've got hella spell dmg lol

it should still scale decently and it didnt

[stiff crown]

Hm. Wondering if there another unique that would synergize with the split damage type

[safe grail]

yeah. enigma

LOL

[stiff crown]

🐸

If it was 100% application in fireball, I would go for it

But that percentage is too low

[safe grail]

so w/ liath's

i could see that working sort of

liath's gives another 20% chance to apply a spark charge

and since i took the node that allows fireballs to hit the same target

it would calculate on each projectile.

[stiff crown]

Hm

[safe grail]

that'd be kinda cute

[stiff crown]

Enigma is like 12%

[safe grail]

Plasmaball Spark Reaction

now im kinda curious lmfao

34% chance for spark charge on each projectile.

lmao this feels like

a more fun version of LB

xD

[stiff crown]

I haven't looked at the fireball tree. Does it have indirect spell casts?

[safe grail]

as in can anything else cast it?

[stiff crown]

Yeah. Like FC can cast EN or LB with Dagger

[safe grail]

ah. there's like maybe 2-3 spells that can indirect cast, but

it's like

frost wall, flame reave

lol

my investment into flame rush -> static orb w/ aegis actually benefits here too

kinda nice

[stiff crown]

There's sunwreath for flame reave, lol

Flame Rush has a fireball node too, I think

[safe grail]

yeah it's ass tho

[stiff crown]

You using runic?

[safe grail]

playing sorc

so nah

[stiff crown]

Shame

Smh

It's okay. RM players are not good

[safe grail]

lol

also wouldnt have access to spark nova

if i was RM atm

oh sad. i only have like 3 fireballs now

hm.

so its either

i shoot 3 fireballs

in a line

or

i get 7 in a cone

okay gonna try it as 50/50 split w/ enigma and see

[stiff crown]

Going full lightning then?

The FB damage would be insignificant, I feel

[safe grail]

nah

50/50 split is

kinda fun

and the reason it's not insignifcant

I have flame burst which every 3 fireballs that hit, it does a fire aoe

[neon lynx]

😮

[stiff crown]

I don't have any T7 FB armor, just a couple of T6s. I'm guessing you're doing generic spell damage instead of specific fire/lightning

[stiff crown]

Plasma Ball node converts half of fireball to lightning. Would Liath's convert the other half? Or is it 75?

Liath says half of FB base damage is converted. Plasma Ball says half of FB base fire damage is converted

[bleak wind]

Based on my testing it becomes all lightning with both the gloves and the skill node

[stiff crown]

Sounds build worthy at this point

[bleak wind]

Ya I use it with my lightning meteor build, still having some survivability issue but the damage is S-tier haha

[stiff crown]

Unironically, if Sorcs puts out more damage than RMs, then I think Sorcs have a higher corruption ceiling. Just takes more time/effort/skill to get there. It's like D4 when you're doing T100 NM Dungeons; all survivability mechanics go out the window (except for auto Flame Shield) because you die in 1 hit no matter how much defensive layers you have. So to do T100, Sorcs just go two-hander burst damage to kill stuff then wait for cooldowns. Same may apply here

[safe grail]

sry been theorycrafting lol

yeah. it'd convert it to 100% lightning

i found that full lightning is worse than 50/50

and yeah, im running spell dmg to cover both elements

I think I might've figured something

[hollow arrow]

👀

more build options lets goooo

[safe grail]

i gotta see how it scales.

lol

but it seems like it may be viable.

[hollow arrow]

hmmm

[safe grail]

AND it's a sorc build

[hollow arrow]

ye the juicy stuff

[dusk grail]

Anyone got a unique off meta build idea/planner?

[safe grail]

I also may have dropped 50m on a 4 LP Liath's lmao

so i can slam int + cast speed + useful suffixes onto it lmao

[hollow arrow]

lol

lets see if we made any sales

20m better than nothing

now we lvl RM alt then sorc alt for possible fire build later lmao

[safe grail]

LOL

[stiff crown]

Gonna be 700M after you release the build

[safe grail]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[neon lynx]

hes gatekeeping it

[hollow arrow]

yeah once its realised it's gonna shoot up

[neon lynx]

radart jr

[safe grail]

ya dude

wanna screenshare

?

i'll show u

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[neon lynx]

only if ur coc is in it

[safe grail]

or i could hit you with the trueogre

send me ur planner

ill make 6.9 suggestions

[neon lynx]

$50 cashapp

3 changes

hes super weird tho lol

he actually went through the trouble of hiding is exports

[stiff crown]

Another "you guys don't know how good I am" type?

[neon lynx]

he can actually back it up tho

if u go look at the beta arena boards

still weird tho

[hollow arrow]

it was funny cuz he's like

'just look up my name and you can find it'

knowing there aint nothing with his name there, then wouldn't share nothing

lmao

[neon lynx]

at least he wasnt like radart

who had like a wave 20 arena clear

[safe grail]

yea

i get that

[neon lynx]

but still

this game aint that serious lol

its not like path or something

where theres a bunch of money on the line for gauntlets

u dont get anything for being 1 lol

[hollow arrow]

i just find it funny that RM gear is still super expensive

[stiff crown]

You get to brag on Discord

[hollow arrow]

but the wraithlord, falcon gear started going down fast

[neon lynx]

yeah but then u just get memed

and disappear again

lol

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[stiff crown]

"Congrats. Do you want a cookie?"

[hollow arrow]

guess they really wanted them cookies

[safe grail]

lmao these gloves are stupid

[hollow arrow]

stupid bad or stupid broken

lmao

[safe grail]

stupid broken. the slam i put on was gross lol

[surreal root]

can you get mad alch label from a prophecy?

[neon lynx]

maybe

if ur looking for a ladle tho, no

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[safe grail]

look at DMs lol

[hollow arrow]

sorry was fightin boss

[austere gyro]

is there any reason to keep all experimental items?

there are only a few of those affixes that are used by anything, right?

[surreal root]

just to use rune of resaerch on them for chance at an insight glyph

seal the affix on them then drop em

[barren pawn]

some builds use the expers tho

so sealing them does have a use

[surreal root]

a t5 frenzy on the proper base is worth a fortune se well

like, if you get a t7 int boots with t5 frenzy... nom nom

[austere gyro]

are there any experimental affixes that are definitely seal/drop?

[surreal root]

anything that isn't a t5 basically, t4 and below are easily crafted with insight

[austere gyro]

oh that makes things simple then

[hollow arrow]

quiet tonight

👀

[royal gull]

Ok I'm back at it today, gonna see how Runebolt as mana and rune builder treats me

[hollow arrow]

dang swaddling with t7 cast spd t6 int

[unborn hamlet]

Lucky mf

[hollow arrow]

nah not me

buddy of mine

but you right lucky mfer lmao

his turned out with 28% cast spd, 10 int and some armor/block i think it was

gloves have +4 attributes so

pretty good pair

[white cedar]

hey guys, ive been following this build on my newest alt: https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/fire-ball-volcanic-rush-sorcerer

i assume the reasont this build (and many other mage builds) take frost wall is for the free flame wards that used to exist on a previous patch, judging by the tooltips on this build. Since that's not a thing anymore do you guys think frost wall is still the move or is there another ability that could provide good utility that im overlooking

[royal gull]

Does Increased Spell Damage and Increased Cold (or any element) multiple or add together?

Do these add with Increased Damage Over Time or multiply?

[royal gull]

I love Frost Wall for itself and made a Cold Runemaster around it

Though I think it has a lot of trap nodes, mostly the ones that cast other spells automatically

[white cedar]

its a solid ability yea just not the focus of this build, just there for utility

and the biggest part of that utility no longer exists lol

[latent cloak]

any fire runemaster builds which could use this staff? https://imgur.com/a/UkuUN1I

[white cedar]

yea

[latent cloak]

ideas?

[royal gull]

I've been out there in the General chat figuring out what my build actually scales with and I am left with questions

[robust junco]

Go ahead, we don't have that 1 min slowmode here

[royal gull]

Does anything at all scale Frostbite besides "damage over time", "elemental dmg over time", or "cold damage" ?

Does "added damage" do anything? I don't think it does

[robust junco]

Added Dmg doesn't do anything

[royal gull]

Ok then I'm less confused than I thought 🙂

but I have Snowdrift and that means I get penetration from added Freeze Multiplier

[robust junco]

If you have the Snowdrifts boots FRM scales

😅

[royal gull]

So that means now I have 4 ways to scale it besides applying more stacks of it faster

However, Snowdrift ONLY buffs Frostbite and not my generic Cold DoT effects

[robust junco]

And don't forget More Dmg from the skill that applies the Frostbite

[robust junco]

Correct

[royal gull]

Oh that is a good one, didn't know that

So because Blizzard has no "hit" component it cannot apply Frostbite

However Frost Wall can because it has a skill that specifically gives it a Frostbite application chance

[robust junco]

It need to be either generic More Dmg, or More Cold Dmg, More Dot.
If a node says More Spell Dmg for exemple it won't do anything for Frostbite

Double Correct

[glad island]

where does fc nova runemaster get leech for twisted heart from?

[royal gull]

and in fact it applies Frostbite extremely fast at 8 stacks per 1 second, if I understand the tooltip correctly, which says 200% chance every 0.25 seconds

So what is the thing making everyone use Frost Claw to apply Frostbite? It has a good More?

OH and here are some good nodes then

Arch of Rimefrost says +12% More dmg on Frostwall so that means Frostbite applied has that, and then Frozen Throne says 25% More dmg to Frozen enemies so that would also start applying to Frostbite once the enemy is frozen?

@robust junco 🙂

The Dark Cold looks like it would also scale the Frostbite damage actually "More damage over time per second of existance"

[neon lynx]

Sorc passive

[robust junco]

Frostclaw can have 5 hits per cast, with a base cast speed of 1.467 cast per second. That's 7.3 hits per second without any cast speed. So if you have more than 100% frostbite chance that even more stacks. That why FC is so good

[royal gull]

Ah because it stacks quickly, that makes sense

[robust junco]

It also has Frostbite duration, and a few nice More Dmg

[royal gull]

Am I right that The Dark Cold would scale Frostbite as well?

[dusk grail]

Anyone got a unique off meta build idea/planner?

[royal gull]

I'm in the middle of that right now, Frostbite without Frost Claw

Still tinkering as I figure out more mechanics

[dusk grail]

I like testing builds offline if you wanna see its viability with specific gear that may take to long to get

[robust junco]

"This doesn't affect ailment and subskill"

[royal gull]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Reading is important

[dusk grail]

If you send a build planner I can push it to like 2k corruption and see if its usable there etc.

look at dps with specific gear

[royal gull]

Frozen Throne also doesn't then, but Arch of Rimefrost does

[dusk grail]

stuff like that

[robust junco]

Yep

[royal gull]

I appreciate the offer LeoBoy, but I'm in the middle of some heavy tinkering so will have to pass until I have a better idea where I'm putting a few points

I'm not done with the first 10 timelines yet

I will report back in here though once I am

[robust junco]

Have you considered Volcanic Orb?

[dusk grail]

all g just send a build planner if you want it tested and ill run it through specific things

[royal gull]

I was tinkering with that as well, yeah, will give it another look with this new context

I wasn't sure I was making a "Frostbite" build until today actually, I didn't understand the difference between it and general cold dot

@robust junco I have another line of inquiry regarding Brand of Subjugation

It says +2% more dmg per 1% chill chance, but this is kind of a trap anyways since Chill maxes at 3 stacks and I apply those stacks nearly instantly?

Ahhhhh, Glyph of Dominion helmet can convert to Cold Res Shred

[languid oar]

is Hydraheadron still viable?

[royal gull]

Oceareon adds Freeze Rate per stack of Chill but that still isn't interacting with Chill chance directly

[robust junco]

Btw, chance to apply Frostbite over 100 gives you chance to apply an extra one.
%'Inc Dmg from Int also apply to Frostbite

For Brand of Subjugation, it doesn't matter how many stack you can apply, if you have 400% to chill it's 400% More Dmg

[royal gull]

That is what I mean, it seems unique as the only type of effect in the game that scales that way

At least in Runemaster I think

[robust junco]

Doesn't interact with Chill Chance and it doesnt count toward FRM for Snowdrifts

[robust junco]

There is a Brand for every elemental dmg

[royal gull]

Yeah I know, but this is the only skill or item or anything I've seen so far that interacts with chill % to make it scale in a meaningful way

I don't even need Chill % to Chill since Blizzard is 100% and so is Frost Wall

So the only way to improve Brand of Subjugation is to get More multipliers on Flame Rush itself, or waste stats on Chill %

I mean besides the usual DoT / Ele DoT / Cold dmg

[languid oar]

anyone wanna answer me?

[royal gull]

I just checked over every single skill in the DB for Mage extremely carefully and confirmed Subjugation is the only effect in the entire game to scale with Chill chance like it does, which is cool and all, but definitely not a reason to target Chill affixes

@robust junco when Rime Caster says Global DoT and Global Freeze Rate that means both apply to Frostbite, right?

From all sources not just from Glacier

and with Greater Vortex node giving +50% effect of Rime buff I guess it is really +150% global to both

[latent cloak]

i have no idea what to do with this https://imgur.com/a/UkuUN1I

[glad island]

does chains of uleros work with frosbite?

[royal gull]

Probably, but 12% increased is pretty crap

[glad island]

ok thx

[robust junco]

Yes

[royal gull]

I'm deep in the weeds now Vlad 😮

[hollow arrow]

just save it for when you make a build that uses it lol

[royal gull]

Ok @robust junco I've got a new line of thinking

does Glyph of Dominion with Vaporizing Realm cause More dmg with Frostbite if you take Power Word: Devastation? (assuming Heo runes)

[robust junco]

Yes

Problem, you can't convert Glyph to cold. So all your juicy Frostbite Chance on cold hit is lost

[royal gull]

It isn't an issue imo since Glyph doesn't "hit" anyways and instead applies 15 Frostbite per second without hitting

Which may as well be 30 stacks since they're all doing double damage

Would Wreak Havoc also work on Frostbite?

"GoD's dmg over time part deals more dmg for each second it is active" I guess not, or would it? So hard to say

Atomization also would work on Frostbite I bet

Oh wow, would Runic Dominance also boost the Frostbite it applies with another +30% more?

This is all very cool, but the end result of everything I'm figuring out is that Brand of Subjugation is just straight trash garbage and not worth building passive nodes around

The other 2 brands though, those are kind of neat and inspiring me

[robust junco]

Wreak Havoc should work
Atomization for sure
Runic Dominance too

[royal gull]

😄

[robust junco]

Imo the only good Brand is the lightning one

[royal gull]

I think I'm taking this build in an entirely new direction

[robust junco]

Because it's not locked behind a specific skill

[royal gull]

The problem I've had so far though is that I thought I was making a Blizzard build

Now I'm leaning hard into Frostbite as the actual build since Blizzard can't inflict it

I don't actually need the boots for Blizzard, at all

[robust junco]

Yep, or you could go for a Spell DoT Cold build

With Vortex, Blizzard and Frostwall

[royal gull]

Chilled Touch from Frost Wall buffs Frostbite, right?

Yeah that is what I was starting towards when I made this character Vlad

I got sidetracked by Flame Rush quite a bit though, I loved the spell, and the interactions with Frost Wall, but the reality is that it doesn't really help damage over time builds at all to use it

Casting a Blizzard on arrival is a neat trick and all, but not as good as just hard casting

The problem is you center the Blizzard on your arrival point, which means you are a melee range Runemaster

[royal palm]

I didnt realize how big of a deal cast speed was for ward generation

[royal gull]

Been learning a lot of hard lessons this week 😛

Cast Speed is the best stat in all of these games because it directly makes your character more responsive

That is my hot take of the night

Vlad I think Flame Rush has some confused design in the Manafused Current node

I see what the devs were going for here actually now

You start with Blazing Flux, it wants 150% fire res, you go to Manafused Current because you have to, but the point is Glyph of Intention which immediately gives you +45% resist all when you have Arcane Mirror in Glyph of Domination

Same problem with Blizzard though, you're pbaoe-casting a thing you should be casting at enemies that are far, far away from you

[royal palm]

Im playing cold sorc with static orb/ice barrage

Pretty much everything freezes with 1800% freeze multiplier

[royal gull]

Oh jesus. @robust junco I just saw the Frigid Departure node in Teleport

Nice Alex, love to hear success stories

[royal palm]

Definitely

Less animation lock

[royal gull]

Well crap. Vlad it doesn't explicitly say it in the description, but Glyph of Domination only inficts Frostbite when it explodes

[crimson raft]

Most things, have to hit to apply stuff.

[soft elm]

Hi guys, the affix "lightning critical strike multiplier" is rare? i can't find it

[crimson raft]

Yepp.
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/affix/mage_lightning_crit_multi

[royal gull]

Yeah, I just thought it might work like Frost Wall since it does damage over time and didn't say the effect only happens on explosion

[soft elm]

Thanks, interesting.

[crimson raft]

Oh sure, but unless the skill or nodes or passives or something specify it, anything you got that needs a hit won't apply it if it's a DOT.

[lavish depot]

guys how did you find blood of the exile with lp2,3? it just wont drop for me since weeks , corruption 316 Spirit timeline, also COF is only 1 LP if lucky

[royal gull]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaXw6WxQ

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 76

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.4

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (44)

General:

▸ Health: 964, Regen: 18/s
▸ Mana: 212, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 203%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 1 Dex / 52 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 95% / 126% / 12% / 58% / 55% / 56%
▸ EHP: 1,234 / 1,234 / 1,234 / 831 / 1,050 / 1,024 / 1,032

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 216
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (813)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 30%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Teleport (20)
• Frost Wall (20)
• Runic Invocation (20)
• Runebolt (20)
• Glacier (20)

Used unique items:

• Isadora's Gravechill
• Snowdrift

[royal gull]

Ok this is making a bit more sense now

Link is to what I am currently using to finish the initial run on the timelines

[safe grail]

2 & 3 are very rare drops. For CoF you could continue to target that timeline using unique boots prophecies.

[lavish depot]

thx for reply

[hard orbit]

small question about static shell: how is the bonus armor calculated? like, I have 2800ish armor atm and a 160% multiplier on it

[steady folio]

Hey there, brand new to the game. Just got Runemaster into Monoliths and looking deeper into build guides. Is every build Frostclaw? 😂

[robust junco]

99% sure it's bugged

[full bluff]

No, but if you first start using frost claw, it might be hard using somehing else 🙂

[robust junco]

Or the tooltip is wrong
I reported it a while ago

[steady folio]

Haha ok, are their any fire versions that are good? I see ice and lightning in the higher corruptions

[full bluff]

Good question, maybe I will try a fire claw crit based runemaster build, never done that beyond small testing

Cold has frostbite, lightning has spark charges, fire has ignite, but ignite is tricky to scale

[stiff crown]

I'm going to assume it's total armor = added armor * (1 + increased armor)

[hard orbit]

is it like a separate multiplier? thats what Im wondering

[safe grail]

wrong words, but yeah

[stiff crown]

I thought added was flat, and increased was percentage. Am I tripping

[safe grail]

added is flat

increased is percentage

unless

OH

i see what you were doing