contrast that with frostbite or ignite. those ailments are not spells
#🧙┃mage
ember charm
okey, I got it now
and would you recommend getting Pulsar passive to deal more damage?
sturdy summit
I'm not qualified to answer that one, don't know the black hole tree in detail
or sorc
cold sand
How much does black hole scale dmg wise, could it be a primary dmg spell? Or more like something you'd combo with meteor
proper hawk
and would you recommend getting Pulsar passive to deal more damage?
no idea but its worth noting that the collapse explosion will actually not be damage over time, but a hit iirc
ember charm
okey, thanks for that info
proper hawk
How much does black hole scale dmg wise, could it be a primary dmg spell? Or mor...
the only way ive seen someone use it as a primary damage skill was as an ignite build, using the ignite per uncapped fire res node
I think it was Dr3adful that did that build?
you could probably find it on his youtube channel
sturdy summit
Doctor Three Adful, I love that guy!
proper hawk
lmao
safe grail
DODGED THE LAYOFF LETS GO
proper hawk
<@114074530372124675> build is sad
this is sad :c
safe grail
YERRRRRRRRRRRRR
sturdy summit
DODGED THE LAYOFF LETS GO
nice! did you get promoted instead? 
barren pawn
they lay your colleague off?
safe grail
lol nah. turned out it's a realignment to a new director
barren pawn
or keep both?
safe grail
uh they laid off 1
barren pawn
i c i c
safe grail
not me or my colleague that does the work we do
sturdy summit
wow, you actually got reorganized. What an unexpected outcome!
safe grail
so.... it was a bit weird that i was reporting an Operations Director and not the Director of Risk & Controls lol
proper hawk
big oof lmao
barren pawn
even with gamblers off
safe grail
so it makes more sense
rich badger
Just hit 30 Formosus kills without a Shackle drop 😄
sturdy summit
Just hit 30 Formosus kills without a Shackle drop 😄
it's an appropriately named item. even though the item hasn't dropped, you're already shackled to that timeline 🤣
rich badger
oof. you're tellng me.
proper hawk
Just hit 30 Formosus kills without a Shackle drop 😄
LP shackle or any shackle at all?
rich badger
LP shackle or any shackle at all?
Any at all, which is probably on the far-left of the bell curve
proper hawk
yeah, yeah it is lmao, what was your rarity at?
rich badger
what corruption?
farming between 150 and 250 corruption. moved it down to the lower end now because I was dying a lot on the boss fight.
proper hawk
my understanding is that rarity affects the drop rate of rare boss drops, capped at 500% rarity. dont quote me on that though
but hey, at least you have a lot of his other drops though lmao
rich badger
Yeah I have 24 amulets.
On the plus side though, I just got an Aaron's Will from one of the unique echos
barren pawn
@proper hawk yeah no lb is dealing like 200 dmg
proper hawk
<@114074530372124675> yeah no lb is dealing like 200 dmg
RIP, whats with your scaling lol
no crit multi i guess
barren pawn
238% crit mult
barren pawn
gotta be how i built LB
proper hawk
did you take shattershock?
pale cedar
Hi all, ive been trying to make some viable builds but nothing seems to match up to my frostbite runemaster (get up to around 600 stacks of frostbite). Are there viable ignite/spellblade alt builds that work pretty well?
rich badger
ignite sucks.
pale cedar
Sadge yeah i was doing some testing. 100 stacks of ignite were doing like... 8k a tick V_V
errant plank
hey guyz, what is your best defensive layers (ward, armor, res, endurance, HPs, dodge...)?
ember charm
well, apparently, if I remove the passive that adds "cast meteor with black hole" then 75% of the damage disappear. And I don't think that black hole can reach even to 100k with a lot of ele dot. It's a shame
pale cedar
i found a 4 lp and 3 lp sunwreath so i was trying to figure out a build to play with them since spellblade was my first char
safe grail
problem is flame reave is already bad so relying on a bad dot on top of it just sounds kinda oof
now there are some builds that are out there being worked on where you use conflagrate to consume ignite stacks to deal dmg instantly.
but that involves using enchant wep to do that and getting enchant weps CD down kinda sucks
pale cedar
yeah i was doing some testing to try that but even then the instant ignite is harder to apply due to range and still does less than frostbite. Might be an unfair comparison given how op snowdrifts are tho
barren pawn
ignite sucks.
I had ignite ticking away for 30k the other day. it doesnt suck
and that was with just 5 stacks
pale cedar
and yeah im considering trying to use them with a rune master and just take advatnage of the free fire damage for glyph of dominion + frost wall fire version haha
oooooh! What did you use to scale it?
safe grail
problem w/ fire/ignite on spellblade
is you stack melee fire dmg
which doesnt affect ignite
lol
barren pawn
oooooh! What did you use to scale it?
i forgor @safe grail
what was it kain said that allowed me to giga ramp ignite?
full bluff
When you talk about dot damage is that on empowered mobs or dummy?
barren pawn
Dummy. As this is the only actual way to get consistent baseline numbers.
full bluff
I tried an ignite build with sorcerer, got tick on dummy to 200k, was using meteor for penetration and fast casting fire claw
pale cedar
ooooh craterborn, makes sense. Was trying to take advantage of my nice sunwreathes but may just have to use them as fire stat sticks and waste the melee ignite
rich badger
I had ignite ticking away for 30k the other day. it doesnt suck
You're way better than I am so I'm sure whatever you did is correct, I just have no idea what that would even be
full bluff
Have to take everything that adds ignite duration
from sorcerer passives, enchant weapon, idols?
barren pawn
ooooh craterborn, makes sense. Was trying to take advantage of my nice sunwreath...
I wasnt using craterborn.
Those ticks were on a disintegrate build.
full bluff
If spreading flames would also spread the ignite stacks it would be op 🙂
crimson raft
Any more damage multi, or just "damage" from the skill that applies the ignite as well will help as it will apply to the ignite. The ignite will also scale through the skills attribute so if fireball (int) will scale the fire dmg as well on the ignite. O
pale cedar
I wasnt using craterborn.
oooooh also cool! I was currently trying to tinker with staff of jaspar and the two sunwreathes. Figured i could do something cool with mana strike + fireclaw autocast cause theres a million free flat damage for fireclaw
inner tinsel
If spreading flames would also spread the ignite stacks it would be op 🙂
That’s the wet dream
full bluff
Was something I did with chill->ignite too, can't remember where it was, passives maybe
pale cedar
fireclaw converts all chill to ignite
so it was probably that
maybe using rainbow katana or other chill sources
full bluff
Firestarters torch is 32% more damage
pale cedar
fudge i feel like flamereave wouldnt be so inconvenient if the range was extended
inner tinsel
I’m farming gear for frostbite frost claw, more dot damage instead of freeze multi, hopefully it’s worth it
pale cedar
best of luck! Im on 50 lich kills with no frostbite shackles on CoF x_X its part of why i want a change of pace
inner tinsel
I had about 6,7 1LP shackle, failed every single one for slamming shred armor 🥲
sturdy summit
do you think shred armor is the best for them? I think I'd rather get cast speed or FRM/ColdRes
inner tinsel
There’s a passive turn shred armor into frostbite, it boost a TON of my damage
crimson raft
best of luck! Im on 50 lich kills with no frostbite shackles on CoF x_X its part...
50 lich kills and no drops WTF. On empowered monos?
rich badger
I had about 6,7 1LP shackle, failed every single one for slamming shred armor 🥲
I havent even gotten one 0LP yet
pale cedar
50 lich kills and no drops WTF. On empowered monos?
yeah my corruption is on 300 already and i went like super far down each tree
inner tinsel
yeah, but cast speed also gives more frostbite stacks
That’s true too, haven’t thought about it this way
inner tinsel
I havent even gotten one 0LP yet
May the rng god smile on u my bro
pale cedar
I havent even gotten one 0LP yet
im with u brother
sturdy summit
That’s true too, haven’t thought about it this way
You might be right that shred gives the most value, we'll have to run the actual numbers to be sure. I would love to get some numbers to see exactly how it shakes out.
inner tinsel
I heard someone say higher corruption boost boss unique drops, but I personally don’t feel it change a bit lol
pale cedar
yeah ive been getting the boss to like level 5 before i do the corruption pyramid thing usually
sturdy summit
it can be hard to tell the difference between small changes in corruption. Where 500 is a small change.
crimson raft
I heard someone say higher corruption boost boss unique drops, but I personally ...
Problem with that is that how many do you need to do before you have a number of runs that's actually statistcally useful. Basically ALOT 😛
sturdy summit
well, maybe 300 is more like a small change
point is, I bet you can tell the difference between 300 and 1000
inner tinsel
You might be right that shred gives the most value, we'll have to run the actual...
Also it would be how we build the frostbite, if its DOT damage focus, shred might be more valuable? I haven’t tried out the build yet, still farming gear till I can completely transition
sturdy summit
Also it would be how we build the frostbite, if its DOT damage focus, shred migh...
it's kind of a balancing act. FRM makes each frostbite stack better (and cold resist comes along for the ride, for more ward retention), while cast speed and armor shred multiply each other.
I'm just not sure where the equilibrium point is
how much frostbite chance equals how much cast speed equals how much frostbite pen?
errant plank
first shade, blind (didnt nknow what to expect): DONE
sturdy summit
grats!
errant plank
ye im happy, did way bettre than against soulfire boss 😄
high grotto
is the sorcerer node rift bolt working properly in regards to leech? I dont seem to be leeching anything from my lightning spells
pale cedar
oh probably a dumb question btw but has anyone had success with using firebrand as their primary auto attack with spellblade? I feel like i blow up the moment ranged monsters pop up
barren pawn
@proper hawk it aitn lookin good homie
lb damage is poodoo when cast this way
doesnt get to cast enougfh cause dis node caps it to one per second
royal gull
Having a good time right now, but, what is the point of doing quest echos?
sturdy summit
oh probably a dumb question btw but has anyone had success with using firebrand ...
I haven't played spellblade, but that problem sounds familiar. I think I've heard spellblade can have trouble dying before it can reach enemies.
royal gull
Do you get more faction currency or something?
sturdy summit
Do you get more faction currency or something?
in empowered? they're hidden because there's no point.
only the boss matters
royal gull
oh probably a dumb question btw but has anyone had success with using firebrand ...
I would suggest getting points in Runemaster to get Flame Dash to close the distance while doing damage and taking less damage, because it is on a very short 3.5 sec CD you could zip around easily
pale cedar
I haven't played spellblade, but that problem sounds familiar. I think I've hear...
hmm, gotcha. Its made me lean toward ranged mana strike even when i want to go fire damage X_X Thank you!
sturdy summit
in normal, the first two quest echoes exist because they tell the story of that timeline
pale cedar
I would suggest getting points in Runemaster to get Flame Dash to close the dist...
ooooh ill explore this, thanks!
royal gull
in empowered? they're hidden because there's no point.
What is empowered?
I unlocked the first 2 quest echos in the first monolith area, did the first quest, can do the second now but don't know why I would
sturdy summit
What is empowered?
level 100 timelines, which you unlock after doing the three level 90s. That's what everyone is talking about when we refer to pushing corruption. They start at 100 corruption.
royal gull
Oh, I don't even know what corruption is yet
sturdy summit
corruption is how the game scales above level 100. It increases enemy hp, enemy damage, and chance to drop better items.
royal gull
I got to monoliths in early access then stopped because 1.0 was coming in a few weeks and I knew I'd start over anyways xD
Then uh.. launch happened. I bailed until this week
sturdy summit
the normal monoliths are like the midgame, and when you unlock empowered, that's the endgame
royal gull
Ahhh ok. I do understand certain monoliths drop more of specific pieces? Or something like that
So I want to unlock the monoliths that have my uniques to up the chances of getting those uniques?
sturdy summit
Ahhh ok. I do understand certain monoliths drop more of specific pieces? Or some...
yes, that's an empowered mechanic. You know how echos have a certain reward? On empowered, each timeline spawns a certain "Unique or Set Item of type X" echo reward.
royal gull
Ahhhh ok
sturdy summit
and that lets you target farm certain types of item
also, bosses have unique drops
that only they drop
royal gull
Thanks again, I guess I will just go about unlocking monoliths
sturdy summit
yeah, I suggest doing every timeline once and then moving to the next.
once or twice
you can rush to empowered if you want, too
proper hawk
doesnt get to cast enougfh cause dis node caps it to one per second
even with dual beams?
like i said, iirc dual beams doubles the LB casts
full bluff
Anyone know if my ward still counts when being hit, when it has overflown 65k? Or am I back to 0 and building it again
sturdy summit
what do you mean? Are you saying there's an integer overflow error?
full bluff
Yes, after 65k it goes to 0 and starts building again
full bluff
Who uses small int for anything these days 🙂
Wondering what happens if I get hit at 65k+ and 200 ward
But it goes down to 60 and so on again, so guess the value is there
urban python
tbc, it doesnt reset to 0, its still above 65k. ITs just a 16 bit system so 65536 is max displayed. its not that weird. calm down
full bluff
maybe just the display is wrong
sturdy summit
if it's only a display issue, it doesn't matter, but if that's what the actual ward stat is being tracked with, it's gone
royal gull
Are there any uniques that you can't get by ascending?
sturdy summit
tbc, it doesnt reset to 0, its still above 65k. ITs just a 16 bit system so 6553...
if you overflow a small uint, it doesn't remember it used to be max. If it's only a display issue, it's not a real overflow, but do you know for a fact which it is?
urban python
its display
full bluff
Must be display, since the value is kept
barren pawn
it does
but its still not enuf
also it appears as tho the channeled lbs do not gain any dmg increases from noides\
royal gull
Like I have the rank 2 chance to keep my Ascend rune from CoF, so can I get the Frost Wall unique Catalyst ?
proper hawk
also it appears as tho the channeled lbs do not gain any dmg increases from noid...
you mean nodes on the disintegrate tree? yeah thats as expected
sturdy summit
Like I have the rank 2 chance to keep my Ascend rune from CoF, so can I get the ...
you can not get boss drops or drops that require corruption
only world drops
barren pawn
you mean nodes on the disintegrate tree? yeah thats as expected
nodes period.
sturdy summit
I think the frost wall catalyst is a world drop
sturdy summit
good, then it will work
royal gull
Thanks 🙂
proper hawk
its p1ss poor dmg when it casts from dis
oh wow that sounds like its completely bugged then lmao
royal gull
Is Rune of Discovery only good while leveling up?
Like low level, before you have alts and a heap of shards
sturdy summit
I guess so
errant plank
i dunno for you guyz, but im not a man of many pcokets. Definately.
sturdy summit
I think I've tried using rune of discovery like twice
tawny arrow
anyone have a lootfilter for frostclaw runemaster ?
errant plank
anyone have a lootfilter for frostclaw runemaster ?
do your own. I promess it sgood, did my first few days back, should have done so long ago
pick any standard that allows to filter rarity/Items type and wanted affixes/ Idols / Shattering material and tune it for your current needs
royal gull
Oh neat I got my first blessing @_@ I take it Increased Huge Idol Drop Rate is the best early one? Or would Glyphs be worth it?
sturdy summit
Oh neat I got my first blessing @_@ I take it Increased Huge Idol Drop Rate is t...
I would suggest either Ornate or Adorned for idols
other than that, Gold or Exp are good
royal gull
Is Gold actually useful if you're not a trader?
sturdy summit
I'm addicted to stash tabs, and also, you can spend gold in Arbor dungeon for better drops
royal gull
Oh ok then
safe grail
oh wow that sounds like its completely bugged then lmao
I think what LB is doing is ignoring everything from everywhere if it’s cast from dis
sturdy summit
Ornate > Adorned > Exp > Gold
safe grail
Like it was doing 800 dmg hits lmao
royal gull
Glyphs not worth it even to fish for Ascended?
royal gull
So that was the last quest, and the last quest always gives a blessing?
sturdy summit
yeah, and the last quest is always a boss
royal gull
About when should I start messing with prophecies?
sturdy summit
so every time you complete the boss, you get both a boss drop, and a new roll on the blessings
basically, now. You want to spend favor to level up your rank.
royal gull
I'm not gaining favor very quickly I've noticed, does that get much faster as you begin corrupted zones?
sturdy summit
any time you get up to like 10k, go spend it
royal gull
Ah, yeah I'm not even 4k yet
errant plank
and if you know what you are looking for
royal gull
Oh I've heard you want to get the lenses that stop arena and dungeon prophecies?
sturdy summit
Ah, yeah I'm not even 4k yet
4k is enough if you have no prophecies at all. Go buy at least one when you get to 4k.
errant plank
i did so
sturdy summit
Oh I've heard you want to get the lenses that stop arena and dungeon prophecies?
I started by banning dungeons, and then I banned arenas. I didn't start using lenses to increase chances of a certain prophecy until I could stack them to 3, because their effect is small.
royal gull
If it is a dungeon arena then it requires using a key, same with arena?
sturdy summit
dungeons and arenas both have keys, yeah
if you like arenas or dungeons, you don't have to ban them. I banned them because I didn't want to run them.
royal gull
I don't have a stock of keys yet so they'd be dead for me anyways
sturdy summit
yeah, then they're good bans
high corruption monoliths are also a good ban, but I think that requires a higher rank
maybe 3 or 4?
royal gull
Do the selections of prophecies change on their own ever, or do I have to reroll them to find stuff like armour -> boots?
royal gull
Ok so like a good one to take right now would be "Death of a boss" no condition, drops a unique armour
Does that include monolith boss as in like any random map?
Or does it have to be like the quest 3 boss I just killed?
sturdy summit
it doesn't say monolith boss, I think even bosses in echoes count
or like campaign bosses
royal gull
Oh right I was confusing terms, I meant to say echo boss yeah
sturdy summit
if you get an echo with an objective to kill an npc that counts as a boss, I think that works
like Kill Zerrick
I'm not 100% sure on that one
I usually look at how much each item I'll get costs in favor. Like, if a prophecy drops 5 items and costs 2500 favor, that's 500 favor per item. I think that's my baseline price. If it's better than that, good value.
royal gull
So a good way to try farming Frey's Retreat would be to put my Dungeon blocking lense on the Weapons scope, then reroll until I see a "drops unique catalyst" prophecy
Since it is a world drop
sturdy summit
yep
I hate rerolling, and I always try to get something, even if it's not the one thing I want most.
but maybe rerolling works for you
royal gull
When it says fulfilled 0/4 times does that mean I can repeat it and get the reward 4 times, or I have to do it 4 times to get the reward once?
sturdy summit
you can repeat it
it will have a number next to the skull icon if you need to kill 4 times
royal gull
Oh neat, so I just have to bash Lagon 4 times and I get 4 unique wands
but I have to have 12 corruption
sturdy summit
don't do that one
royal gull
So I'm not near that yet
sturdy summit
yeah, that's a bad one, because it requires getting to 12 corruption
warped kraken
I prefer double drops and double attempts then whichever item like catalysts for example. It cost alot of favor but helps burn it so you only have to focus on a couple and you get alot of rewards each time
royal gull
If something says "Unique Caster Weapon" does that include offhands or only mainhands?
royal gull
Eh, well I don't mind browsing mainhand uniques I guess
barren pawn
@proper hawk yeah no this doesnt work
but since im already here, ill go for an LB buiild
royal gull
Frostwall LBs use the skill points you put in LB doesn't it?
I mean I guess it must, it is casting the beam version I bought
royal gull
Yeah 🙂
I think it is doing good damage
I took all the damage increases that don't require self-casting
The Cold converstion at the bottom, then 4/4 Arcing Power to give it +120% More dmg, then I'm working on 5/5 Frontloaded for another +100% More
Do those multiply with each other or stack?
Focal Blast says "can't chain, +30% More dmg per max chain" so 120% More from Arcing
Frontloaded only reduces damage when you chain, so I assume it is all profit getting the 5/5
inner tinsel
Failed the 8th slam on shackle 🥲 this gotta be some kind of achievement
royal gull
And neither of those nodes require self-cast
(regarding yesterday if anyone remembers, I was saying I like Runebolt more than LB for Frostwall, but I've changed my mind as I look more into Runebolt. RB seems more tailored towards tri or double element builds)
sturdy summit
I want to put a (fire) frostwall + (cold) lb build variant in my frostbite guide, but I haven't finished figuring it out fully yet, so I'll need to save it for a future revision.
barren pawn
I want to put a (fire) frostwall + (cold) lb build variant in my frostbite guide...
you there, yes you. how do peopel build for LB?
sturdy summit
I have no idea, that's what I haven't figured out yet!
I know how to do frostwall, but not lb
royal gull
Frostwall cast LB 😄
My Frostwall is gonna be a fortress once I have Frey's Retreat
barren pawn
what corr you up to with it? @royal gull
royal gull
None, I'm newb 🙂
I did a lot of experimenting with Frostwall interactions though, and LB is the best branch out of Runebolt or "explodes when you pass through it"
At least in a pure Cold build
I'm using Flame Dash to activate Wall effects too and it still was better to just have LB autocasting
Then I just fill rotation / build runes with LB spam, which gets really fast since I have Rune of Dilation and Arcane Momentum from Sorc
royal gull
Blizzard as invoc
sturdy summit
ah, cool.
royal gull
Which is auto-cast from Flame Dash through the Frost Wall, and usually double casts, and with Frey's Retreat I'll have 3 Blizzards stacked
sturdy summit
I also want to try this combo, but I would be pairing it with the standard frostguard frost claw nova combo for applying frostbite
barren pawn
and you're using frostguard as your invocation?
im now trying to make my old build work, but with a focus on LB instead of dis
since for some reason, dis casts of lb are pathetic
sturdy summit
im now trying to make my old build work, but with a focus on LB instead of dis
I was half paying attention. It sounds like disintegrate doesn't cast LB with the tree applied?
royal gull
When I traverse Frost Wall with Flame Dash it causes a huge explosion on arrival, casts two Blizzards, and triggers 3 instant LB casts
barren pawn
I was half paying attention. It sounds like disintegrate doesn't cast LB with th...
feels / seems it yes
royal gull
Then Frost Wall just keeps casting LB at random stuff
So I Flame Dash through it the other way after 3 seconds
sturdy summit
that's another thing, I can't stand flame rush
royal gull
It doesn't retrigger Frost Wall but it does recast Blizzard and Flame Rush big explosion + Cold Res Shred
Well 2x Flame Rush and I cap Cold res shred in a big AoE while triggering Never Late line of buffs, so seems good to me
sturdy summit
that seems good for mapping. I like teleport for bossing.
royal gull
Oh and the auto-cast of Invocation uses Never Late buff instantly so the Blizzards are empowered
It doesn't get to crit, but it does get the +10 spell dmg
sturdy summit
oh yeah, it's a spell dot
royal gull
Flame Dash itself can crit in that huge area though, so Nimbus Walk is great
When I say huge I mean the explosion from Flame Dash is bigger than my Blizzards because of the Gas Powered node on the far right path of Flame Dash
sturdy summit
as big as an exploding ballista? :D
royal gull
I don't have any other classes to compare to sadly
sturdy summit
how about compared to ele nova
royal gull
Bigger than the default size of that
royal gull
Ok so the full combo is Glacier to trigger Rime buff, Frost Wall as setup, Flame Dash to trigger Frost Wall + own effects + res shred + Invoc, then repeat and fill with cold LB when mana is low
It is really fun because the CD on Flame Dash is so short, mine is down to 2.6 seconds now
sturdy summit
neat, so you use your combo as your spender, and lb as your builder?
royal gull
Sort of, I'm all Cold so the entire combo is Cold runes and generates for Invoc
I made Invoc into the teleport version since I never manually cast it, but honestly haven't needed to teleport much so far
Because you're right, Flame Dash has weaknesses
I used to get stunned out of it when I cast it near enemies
sturdy summit
I see, cool, so you have an option of which traversal to use
royal gull
Yeah 😄
I spent the last few days coming up with all this and it seems solid so far, I'm leaning into Frostbite / cold damage over time because of Blizzard and Frost Wall
sturdy summit
that sounds like a super fun build
royal gull
It really is
I was trying so many ways to tweak it, yesterday I tried Magma Orb and Static Orb with Flame Dash but they didn't work out
I tried Wall of Glyphic Art and Runebolt, but it doesn't cast fast enough / have enough impact
sturdy summit
could a take a look at your build planner import?
royal gull
How do I do that?
sturdy summit
in lastepochtools build planner, there's an import button on the left sidebar
it asks for your account name and character name
and then save it and share the link
royal gull
silk pewterBOT
royal gull
Wow that is really handy
sturdy summit
thanks!
royal gull
So yeah I have not done much crafting so far, but I think I have the right idea
OH and I have Brand of Subjugation on Flame Rush which is another big reason I spam it
I just stack sources of Cold DoT like mad @_@
Can't wait to have enough mana to get the largest explosion in Glacier back
That was another sacrifice I had to make to my bad gear
It is comfy to play so far, I don't run out before big packs are dead, but I would if I was paying full price for Glacier
sturdy summit
this is looking pretty good so far. How much ward do you tend to get?
royal gull
also Glacier is just such a neat spelllllllll, I love it
pale cedar
I would suggest getting points in Runemaster to get Flame Dash to close the dist...
Just tried it, its clunkier than id like but it plays way better than teleport. Thank you :3
royal gull
Just tried it, its clunkier than id like but it plays way better than teleport. ...
It will get less clunky as you get better at using it / get more ward so you don't get stunned out of it easily
pale cedar
yeah. I also took the point which converts ignite to ward and just stopped overindexing on ignite damage
royal gull
There you go!
pale cedar
if i get nice enchantments on my 4 lp sun wreathe i might still try to go a fire dot build on my rune master with it haha
time to farm endlessly for rings that will never be good enough to sac T_T
royal gull
this is looking pretty good so far. How much ward do you tend to get?
If I'm just spamming spells and not getting hit I gain ward faster than I lose it, I was at around 700 just now without being attacked
sturdy summit
okay, cool
I'll be interested to see how that scales as you level and upgrade your gear
royal gull
I want to max Mental Catalysis after I get 7/10 in Celestial Doom as I heard people saying you want crit reduction as an end game defense
sturdy summit
yeah, if you get mental catalysis, you don't need to do anything more for a long time
royal gull
Then I might go for Essence of Celerity in Sorc
Since I'm max Momentum so easily
Even more movement speed 😄
sturdy summit
I love momentum, and I go an entire 25 points into sorc to be able to pick up chill to the bone
royal gull
Yeah I was thinking that might be next
sturdy summit
I also quite like edict of the scion, although I'm not sure if it's as efficient for you.
royal gull
I use a lot of area skills since Blizzard, Wall, Flame Rush are all Area
oh and Glacier
sturdy summit
yeah, the only one that's not is LB
royal gull
LB is a spell I will cast less as my efficiency goes up so that is fine
sturdy summit
cool, then edict of the scion is great for getting more ward.
royal gull
So many good nodes to grab 🙂
Future so bright I gotta wear shades 
Ahh, yeah I should try and get Julra's Stardial for now to help with mana
unborn hamlet
i feel like this calc for mana use is lying to me straight up
aintnoway i need basically no mana regen to sustain fc when i got 16 and i still run out of mana quite often
need that T7 mana reduce or im gonna lose my mind over this ,
lusty cove
Hello,
I have lvl 53 spellblade. Full melee cold build atm.
Abilities: Flame Ward, Teleport, Mana Strike, Enchant Weapon, Shatter Strike
Question: Should I switch to Surge / Flame Rush for traversal or Teleport is just better?
Surge and Flame Rush both have a significantly shorter distance (even with passives).
Can you improve it through some unique items or something else?
Will one of these skills become undeniable better at the endgame for some other reasons?
safe grail
Hello,
I have lvl 53 spellblade. Full melee cold build atm.
Abilities: Flame Wa...
you can extend their ranges
TP and flame rush are strictly better than surge
since they give you defensive layers.
royal gull
Flame Rush can gain speed / distance with an affix
safe grail
Flame Rush can gain speed / distance with an affix
it has nodes inside the flame rush tree. you wouldnt use an item affix to do that
royal gull
The node is kind of weak imo
You can get 20% from a tier 5, the node caps out at 21% for 3 points
sturdy summit
you'd have to give up your super valuable chest and head prefix slot to do that
royal gull
Oh, ok I will 🙂
safe grail
when you actually spec into flame rush and do it correctly, you would have leftover points and no where to put them
so you will put em into speed + range nodes on the tree
sturdy summit
ex, this build is pretty different
royal gull
I dunno what you mean by "correct", but I will have a few points left once I have 5/5 shred
safe grail
o?
sturdy summit
I'm not sure how it will scale, but it looks really fun.
royal gull
"I am the danger" the build
hollow arrow
oof time to play, done workin on car and doin stuff all day lmao
unborn hamlet
imagine if Flame Rush actually dealt dmg
just build some kind of nuclear bomb build
royal gull
I don't need it do damage as long as Blizzard does and it shreds resists and activates LBs that do damage :3
sturdy summit
👀
hollow arrow
i got all my stuff early at least lmao
now it's just fine tuning stuff and it's the cheaper ones at least
sturdy summit
I call it a black market, because you can't see the sale history. A synonym for "black market" would be "dark pool"
unborn hamlet
just seen item showcase
dude selling garbage for 200m
of shackles with experiment ward on em for 800m?
people lost their minds
hollow arrow
lotta people put that stuff up and it dont sell trust me
safe grail
nah that chest was kinda nutty for HH pally i think
unborn hamlet
yea
abstract abyss
so you will put em into speed + range nodes on the tree
Haha I ran into the same issue
unborn hamlet
😂
lusty cove
I was hoping in Flame Rush would be a node that would turn it into a channelled skill like Shield Rush, but sadly no 😦
hollow arrow
well those uhhhhh low life gloves that i got awhile ago
sturdy summit
it is already a channeled skill, kinda
hollow arrow
with the cast spd and armor prefixes sold for 300m
unreal umbra
of shackles with experiment ward on em for 800m?
was it t7?
sturdy summit
I was hoping in Flame Rush would be a node that would turn it into a channelled ...
in fact, flame rush literally is a channelled skill.
hollow arrow
the 20% low life ones are usually 800-1b
but would rather get low life & freezing rate
lusty cove
in fact, flame rush literally is a channelled skill.
Yeah, I mean more like "while you are holding a button" type of channel
royal gull
@sturdy summit do I want more Runic Energy or probably Rune of Heorot with the rest of my Invoc points?
unborn hamlet
the 20% low life ones are usually 800-1b
brother im telling u
u cant justify this cost
hollow arrow
lmao
hollow arrow
brother im telling u
i'll sell my 3lp shackles for 2b watch
unborn hamlet
1 billion bro
sturdy summit
<@130553802142121985> do I want more Runic Energy or probably Rune of Heorot wit...
I think runic energy
unborn hamlet
a normal casual player will never see that amount of gold in their entire life playing this game
unreal umbra
ive never seen t6+ exp ward on gloves.
unreal umbra
let alone t7. let alone 20%, let alone already slammed into a shackles
neon lynx
by selling crap gear to RMTers for 100m
hollow arrow
ez done
neon lynx
u dont have to directly rmt to afford those things lol
spare glen
let alone t7. let alone 20%, let alone already slammed into a shackles
People get thay on cof, mg is even easier
neon lynx
but u do got dirty gold
royal gull
Could also Attuned Approach to help with mana @sturdy summit because I still pay the cost for Blizzard after casting Flame Rush
sturdy summit
<@130553802142121985> do I want more Runic Energy or probably Rune of Heorot wit...
are you capping your runic energy regularly when you do a full combo?
unborn hamlet
i really wish they did this as Lost Ark did
just let them run around
track the gold
unreal umbra
not so easy if it sells for 1b?
unreal umbra
if it was so easy you would keep making them and selling 1b items all day
royal gull
@sturdy summit honestly I don't even pay attention to it, but I only need 10 runic energy to get my double cast
safe grail
they are actively watching the RMT btw
unborn hamlet
thats how u end up with a game thats 90% bots
this is just Amazon´s failure to handle the game
safe grail
they've already said there are several folks w/ legit gold caps
sturdy summit
Could also Attuned Approach to help with mana <@130553802142121985> because I st...
oh right, since you're not taking Author of Arcana, you probably want 4/4 Attuned
safe grail
lol
neon lynx
you cant ban people outside of the original ones who bought it
hows joe schmo who sold a random piece of gear supposed to know he got rmt gold?
unborn hamlet
the KR version has no bots
u know why?
cos the game requires ur damn ID to even register
safe grail
you cant ban people outside of the original ones who bought it
WoW does this sht all the time actually
unborn hamlet
and honestly, more companies should do that
safe grail
they are considered false positives
but
the problem w/ WoW is blizz has no GMs anymore
neon lynx
like honestly. how are u supposed to know when u list something. if its legit gold or not
safe grail
so you get a canned response until you escalate thru twitter, reddit, a streamer etc.
im not talking listing
sturdy summit
<@130553802142121985> honestly I don't even pay attention to it, but I only need...
since your blizzard is a big source of your damage, I think runic energy is useful for you besides the double-cast. Runic energy makes blizzard deal more damage.
safe grail
if you do a f2f trade for an actual item
to say circumvent AH fees
which is fine
but if it is RMTd gold
ppl accts have gotten flagged
neon lynx
how you supposed to know even then
you supposed to question the dude buying your item?
😂
safe grail
when you wake up to the email 
unborn hamlet
no
safe grail
oh ya it's turbo dumb
safe grail
but just calling out somewhere that it does in fact happen
safe grail
true
safe grail
cant w8 to play L4ST D4POCH
neon lynx
i mean
unborn hamlet
nono
neon lynx
if they took everything from LE
and put it in d4
itd actually be a decent game
lol
unborn hamlet
its Last depositYourMoneyToBuyAnythingOn3rdPartyWebsites
safe grail
so true hahahaha
safe grail
thats d3
neon lynx
what i dont understand
is LE has been around for years
why all the sudden sniping of mechs lol
and why havent they taken anything from path yet???
safe grail
cus they saw that LE jumped 5x player count on launch
so figured they were doing something right
sturdy summit
who sniped mechs
sturdy summit
lol
safe grail
adding FP, LP, etc
neon lynx
how come we aint sniping path mechs
safe grail
but their version of it
cause they know diablo is niche not complicated
so they can corner that pocket of the market
sturdy summit
blizzard can corner their prison pocket for all I care
unborn hamlet
because path sucks
royal gull
since your blizzard is a big source of your damage, I think runic energy is usef...
Yeah, but until I resolve mana issues I probably should focus on the Attuned for now and get more points in that later
unborn hamlet
unless u have PhD in thermo-nuclear physics and have 140IQ to understand what the ever living F ur even doing
royal gull
I just found my first Weaver's Will item 😮
sturdy summit
Yeah, but until I resolve mana issues I probably should focus on the Attuned for...
yeah, I think you have enough in energy for now. Keep an eye on your runic energy, and if you have anything left over from like extra skill points above 20, that would be a good place to spend it.
but only if you're finding you're maxing your capacity already
hollow arrow
d4 needs to corner the market of actually being good
alright lets see if we make any money off arbor today
neon lynx
eventually theyll steal enough tech where the game will be decent
neon lynx
wat
waxen shoal
about to pick between sorc or RM
neon lynx
looks is like thet main thing d4 has going
neon lynx
yes
neon lynx
might wanna get ur eyes checked
full bluff
Play runemaster first, then try sorcerer later 🙂
neon lynx
calm down radart
hollow arrow
safe grail
im being fr
neon lynx
me too
safe grail
between the two, sorc def blasts more dmg
unborn hamlet
dont listen to them, go on an adventure, maybe u will cook up the most insane sorc build nobody has ever seen yet, or make spellblade actually playable (somehow with hacking the game or something)
safe grail
RM just has so much gd surviviability to it
neon lynx
which is whats important lol
full bluff
I mostly play sorcerer now, but was easier to start off as runemaster
safe grail
when they bring the RM survivability into line a bit more idk how it'll look
unborn hamlet
in 1.1 balance overhaul we trust
full bluff
50/50 which way it goes
sturdy summit
I look forward to trying spellblade in a future cycle
unborn hamlet
i like bootynoodles
hes been madling for 4 days now buying so much crap to somehow make spellblade work
😂
barren pawn
when they bring the RM survivability into line a bit more idk how it'll look
im trying out wall + LB
unborn hamlet
and its just not possible bro
safe grail
im trying out wall + LB
like channeled LB?
safe grail
i like bootynoodles
bro it's actually funny but ya know what
he's out here tryna TC Reave
unborn hamlet
the RM wrongwarp build is what spellblade should have been
scale off dex and dodge rate
so u can actually get near the mobs
😂
full bluff
I play wrongwarp on a spellblade, with ice barrage keeping haste going, 130% run speed. But it ended up being a spell caster, not really melee
full bluff
yes, but does it count if you just use the shared skills?
Frostbite frost claw works fine on a spellblade, but it isn't really a spellblade
tacit hornet
any good solo plasma orb planners
safe grail
any good solo plasma orb planners
look up empyriangaming on youtube
tacit hornet
look up empyriangaming on youtube
i know but that's a group focused build
safe grail
works just as well solo
unborn hamlet
I think people have a wide range of things when you hear a spellblade
tacit hornet
works just as well solo
right, thx
unborn hamlet
Where in the great wizard books does it say a spellblade can't hurl a fireball into your face
it does not matter what you use to channel a spell
civic horizon
does Runebolt with Efficient experiment (double cast if the previous had a different element) works whenever you use Amplified cascade (tri-element) ?
unborn hamlet
I understand the melee concept, it's just that they didn't give spellblades pretty much anything that would allow them to be truly melee
civic horizon
wdym ?
civic horizon
I do a melee-ish RM, mostly because I tp to the pack (runic invoc), drop the glyph + wall ontop of them and benefit from flame ward by being inside my wall
sturdy summit
does sorc or RM have to do melee
neither need to use melee skills, but don't think you will be able to stop enemies from reaching you.
civic horizon
works well enough, but tbh I don't imagine seeing anybody running any similar build and staying 100% ranged
sturdy summit
sometimes, enemies will just swarm you from all sides
waxen shoal
im confused, what does sorc do better than RM?
sturdy summit
you're not the one who's confused
sturdy summit
im confused, what does sorc do better than RM?
the thing that sorc does better than RM is providing a more challenging experience. Sorc is better at making the game harder.
barren pawn
How do we scale LB damage up?
full bluff
Chain reaction only works on sorcerer, and if you want to use meteor, it is sorcer only.
safe grail
How do we scale LB damage up?
i thought yo uwanted to scale up frost wall, not LB?
barren pawn
i thought yo uwanted to scale up frost wall, not LB?
no, LB
sturdy summit
in the version of frostwall + lb I'm considering, I only care about LB for proccing lightning aegis.
safe grail
cause you exposed yurself to me
oowoo
anyway
LBs scaling comes from crit and cast speed mostly.
if you're doing spark charge LB, you dont even need to touch crit chance really
karmic folio
can sb explain me why the dps of Volcanic Orb goes up when you increase your Cast Speed? It doesnt look like it fires more projectiles so i dont understand why
safe grail
get owoed
sturdy summit
he just totally owo'd you
safe grail
can sb explain me why the dps of Volcanic Orb goes up when you increase your Cas...
more volc orbs = mor edps
simple.
barren pawn
aye u might be able to use ur 4lp ladle now
already was lmfao
karmic folio
more volc orbs = mor edps
it has a cd
hollow arrow
lmao kyo got owo'd
karmic folio
np^^ both are orbs
safe grail
do you have it specced to reduce CD?
sturdy summit
🪩
safe grail
or nah
barren pawn
LBs scaling comes from crit and cast speed mostly.
soooo theres no way to make it hit for like 10k?
karmic folio
do you have it specced to reduce CD?
nope
safe grail
soooo theres no way to make it hit for like 10k?
if you use closed circuit and get crit multi, sure
I can screenshare my LB build if u want
barren pawn
if you use closed circuit and get crit multi, sure
how much crit mult
barren pawn
hows yours do?
safe grail
i was mostly memeing, but mine plays p good
barren pawn
CAuse as it stands rn mine is like
1/100th my disintegrate
and no thats not an exaggeration
sturdy summit
🤤
full bluff
<@815396931982327848> i c that video btw
Looking into switching all to lightning blast, dropping frost claw, using mad ladle for even more cast speed
Should in theory be more damage
whole gazelle
If your dreaming, what would be your 4LP ladle slam on NovaClaw?
CM, Cast speed, Shred and lightning pen?
sturdy summit
I think that sounds right
whole gazelle
Would you T7 the Cast speed or CM?
sturdy summit
cast speed
whole gazelle
Think T7 cast speed both MH and OH?
sturdy summit
I think that build wants as much cast speed as it can possibly get
whole gazelle
Yea, dmg and ward gen
sturdy summit
tbh, I think almost every build wants as much cast speed as it can possibly get :p
whole gazelle
Yea, it's the mana regen vs cast speed balance
sturdy summit
but since frost claw has mana regen that scales with cast speed....
unreal umbra
is lightning pen higher prio than shred for 3rd stat?
royal gull
btw @sturdy summit I'm extremely chuffed that you like what I'm cooking up here, means a lot coming from someone who understands more than I do about the game
sturdy summit
btw <@130553802142121985> I'm extremely chuffed that you like what I'm cooking u...
I think it's really different from what everyone else is doing, and I want it to work out well so we have another style of build available. I'm not sure how it will scale up into empowered monoliths, but I hope it will work out.
royal gull
Well it is always my goal to come up with my own builds rather than looking up guides
I want to be the person writing the guides xD
karmic folio
I think it's really different from what everyone else is doing, and I want it to...
i think the majority of all ppl that play this game do they own thing instead of copying other builds
sturdy summit
:D
sturdy summit
i think the majority of all ppl that play this game do they own thing instead of...
I can only speak about the people in here.
next lance
i think the majority of all ppl that play this game do they own thing instead of...
They dont
royal gull
I just had my first death in an echo ;_; I was not paying super close attention / taking it seriously because everything was so easy up to this point
Did not realise it yeets me out entirely
sturdy summit
yeah, you'll have to restart it, and you can't get the echo reward if you die
you'll have to complete it to get past it in the web
true wagon
Think a large majority is ripping builds once they get past lvl 58
Thats the point where there own builds gets scuffed
sturdy summit
I think there are two big points where people get stuck. The first lagon fight, and the second lagon fight 🤣
karmic folio
well i dont see the fun in playing a build that you copy from somewhere
sturdy summit
even people who aren't copying builds often come up with similar types of builds because of convergent evolution.
there are certain objective things that are good
karmic folio
even people who aren't copying builds often come up with similar types of builds...
well thats ok then if its kinda the same by coincidence
sturdy summit
and people like to use good things
true wagon
Well u can only make so much weird stuff until it becomes simulare but as long as you dont take from someone else build its your own right :p
sturdy summit
even if you learn things from other people, you can make it your own
you don't have to deny yourself knowledge of what other people do in order to be authentic
we live in a society!
whole gazelle
I think that sounds right
Funny but quite a few wands in the bazaar are crafted with lighting pen and chance to shock (instead of shred)...
sturdy summit
Funny but quite a few wands in the bazaar are crafted with lighting pen and chan...
they probably know better than me, then.
turbid quail
did people start duping this game? There are 4 1LP ocearons with the same exact stats in the market, all listed next to each other.
royal gull
I think there are two big points where people get stuck. The first lagon fight, ...
Lagon in Early Access and in this was the fight where I actually had to try, for sure. It got trivial in this once I crafted resists though 😛
whole gazelle
they probably know better than me, then.
I just found the first build today that prio'd lighting pen and shock as the suffixes...
sturdy summit
if you use vilatria's storm crown, you can do a build based around scaling Brand of Deception damage with 1% more damage per shock chance
in which case, you'd want to stack as much shock chance as possible
safe grail
Looking into switching all to lightning blast, dropping frost claw, using mad la...
it does work. it's fun on sorc
😄
true wagon
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrmO0pZQ
One of my old builds from 0.9 but waiting for them to add more support for void.
Also got a bit upset that gloves passive doesnt work with instacast spells so cant use static to haste and proc 100+ void dmg flat + Pen to convert it 😦
silk pewterBOT
stiff crown
did people start duping this game? There are 4 1LP ocearons with the same exact ...
My guess is Lightless Arbor reward
turbid quail
My guess is Lightless Arbor reward
ohhh ya I forgot about that.
turbid quail
If it's Uleros then I won't doubt it. Shattered Chains on the other hand..
stiff crown
it does work. it's fun on sorc
I bet you use Ferebor
sturdy summit
it's more than a meme, it's culture
sturdy summit
you managed to make it work?
barren pawn
erased 20% of orobys's hp in like... half a second
barren pawn
you managed to make it work?
No. I did some stuff with ex
sturdy summit
oh, the whole build is support
barren pawn
oh, the whole build is support
No
it sa dps build, but lb chaining to allies is abusable
sturdy summit
ahh
barren pawn
since it grants spell crit and dmg
sturdy summit
mmm, always knew mage was the best support class
I'd say paladin is crying that their class fantasy is being stolen, but I'm sure they're laughing over there
are you using frostwall as well?
sturdy summit
do you also get lightning aegis now when you didn't before?
neon lynx
I'd say paladin is crying that their class fantasy is being stolen, but I'm sure...
laughing as they give everyone around them 500k shields with 1 button
safe grail
you can turn LB into a support by taking glyph and such
sturdy summit
500k?
neon lynx
did u not see snap and friends getting the rollover 10x times?
and each roll over is what 65k?
🤣
sturdy summit
no, where do I see this
neon lynx
sturdy summit
ty
royal gull
A few small optimisations @sturdy summit , gonna remove my Mage points in the crit passive and put those into Health + Mana after 5/5 Rune of Winter
Also I learned after that death, and then some deaths in my first arena, that my main enemy is definitely mana and it governs how fast I can go
If I take it easy and don't spam Flame Rush I'm fine, I just have started saving that for actual threats instead of traversing the map with it
Using it is what puts me in hyper mode with Never Late so if I am OOM as a tough fight starts it hurts a lot
Puts me at 272% base freeze rate multi with 5/5
sturdy summit
hmm, yeah, mana sounds like it could be a problem
one of the things that makes frost claw so powerful is that it can keep getting faster without regard for mana regen, because it brings its own mana regen. But builder spender is a valid way to play too
royal gull
I can get 4/4 Attuned Approach when I'm 20 skill, just need to level more and that will help too
barren pawn
this is the mage channel so
speaking of
you wanna do an emp rq keeping me buffed?
I wanna see how hard disintegrate slaps normal mono enemies
next lance
so i got the game and was boosted to lvl 90 off the bat i started running a mage build thats mid at best from a website any suggestion i use fireball mainly just want something stable to run high corruption and my gear to where my character is makes no sense im on empowered just need a decent build for scorc
turbid quail
what do I give up in FC if I'm using a +3 ukerios? Nova lightning
barren pawn
well you arent doing high corr with fireball thats for sure... @next lance
next lance
well you arent doing high corr with fireball thats for sure... <@456226577798135...
well what can i run on sorc to run high corr
is there a build anywhere i can follow
lowkey new to arpgs i come from runescape lmfao
karmic folio
Is Disintegrate the only Spell that prevents the Mana Drain of Arcane Ascendance?
barren pawn
well... you kinda didnt learn anything you needed to learn since you goy boosted straight to 90
grave goblet
Is ward a bit broken? lvl 45 mage and everything that touches me grrants ward then ides
dies*
next lance
well... you kinda didnt learn anything you needed to learn since you goy boosted...
yeah im lvl 95 almost 96 ive played the story have a good idea what to do for basic just need help finding a build to follow
but sorc was probably the worse choice i made
next lance
atm i get about 2k to 3k ward with 1.5k health not bad
safe grail
was boost up to 90 and not play the game
ME personally (not speaking for anyone else), I am not gonna bother answering your questions
sorry.
barren pawn
ME personally (not speaking for anyone else), I am not gonna bother answering yo...
im kinda the same mind on this
stiff crown
When you want to play the game but don't want to play the game
next lance
lmfaoo
barren pawn
Theres ALOT of sh1t you learn as you progress through levels and the game thats kinda needed fgor you to succeed at the game
next lance
i have 60 hours on now not like i havent played
safe grail
you literally skipped a bunch of stuff just by yeeting to lvl 90 and then coming up in here asking questions like
OHHHHHH
okay that's diff
you made it sound like
you JUST got the game af ew hours ago
and boosted to 90
lmao
barren pawn
you JUST got the game af ew hours ago
yeh
safe grail
my b my b
barren pawn
made it sound like this
next lance
nah i have played
safe grail
so keeping it real
if you're playing sorc
your builds are going to be FC or LB based
bout it
esp if you wanna get to high corruption
next lance
yeah i probably should of went with runemaster tbf
karmic folio
my fireball applies over 20 stacks of ignite and iam just lv 47
sturdy summit
my fireball applies over 20 stacks of ignite and iam just lv 47
FC has tons of utility, so does LB. What does fireball have for utility to help you survive or buff yourself?
karmic folio
ofc not an endbuild
sturdy summit
I'm not asking that rhetorically. I don't know.
karmic folio
FC has tons of utility, so does LB. What does fireball have for utility to help ...
at my level those things are not needed yet
sturdy summit
that's totally fair
I would like it if fireball were good beyond just that, however
karmic folio
idk if there is a good endbuild with ignite, dunno if the dmg would be good if i had 500 stacks of ignite which is not hard
sturdy summit
you'd want 500 stacks, but you'd also need some way to increase the damage of each stack significantly.
karmic folio
atm each stack does 232 according to the stat under C
sturdy summit
frostbite is the cold dot. it also increases freeze rate for the first 30 stacks. It has both an item that gives it more damage per stack by turning freeze rate multi into frostbite pen, and also it lets you stack freeze rate multiplier so you get damage at the same time as crowd control. Ignite would need to be able to compete with that.
this is why I think a lot of imbalances are caused by itemization
frostbite is better primarily because it has better support with the available itemization
royal gull
I just pushed my freeze rate from sub 200% to over 500% with some gear crafts and talent swaps phil
While also bumping a heap of resists
still get messed up by poison.. my lowest at 35%
turbid quail
filter out the vitality + poison or physical or necro idols then go for idol monos. Easy early fix for res.
royal gull
Yeah, been using idols for that so far
pastel viper
Anyone have a good fun beginner Sorc lightning build?
turbid quail
Anyone have a good fun beginner Sorc lightning build?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/filter/mastery=runemaster
Then type lightning on the search bar. most of them have videos too so you can check out gameplay first before diving in
glad island
for frostbite runemaster, which is a priority on rings? freeze rate or elemental damage over time?
hardy loom
for frostbite runemaster, which is a priority on rings? freeze rate or elemental...
Which comes at t7
glad island
@hardy loom is there a preffered t7 stat over the other? or they're equally fine
glad island
U get more cold pen from the boots
ahh I see
hardy loom
Ill imagine it's not a big diff tbh so given a choice I'll see what the other affixes are like
obtuse reef
lol im playing the bomb build (fire, lightning, cold). Went into a map with lots of particles. Placed down about 6 bombs per seconds. Frame rate drops to like... 3.
safe grail
LMAO sounds liek a fun build to me
obtuse reef
its... REALLY explosive...
even the three spells used to trigger it explodes (okay maybe not ice wall, but at one point i had it exploding too)
Edit: Gonna make it explode too thematically :3
half ivy
any good solo plasma orb planners
hey i PM'd u my plasma orb stacker solo build, take a look to get inspiration
barren pawn
hey i PM'd u my plasma orb stacker solo build, take a look to get inspiration
why not just post it here?
half ivy
why not just post it here?
oh i mean i guess i could, https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/jzss0zdw, after buffs my armor is 3.6k and dodge is 3.9k ward is 3.5k in monos and 5k+ on bosses
sullen umbra
while I do have the empowered monoliths unlocked is it worth my time to farm the desired normal blessings before starting on the empowered monos or should I just try to work at getting the grand versions?
woven yarrow
for frostbite runemaster, which is a priority on rings? freeze rate or elemental...
Ele dmg over time is more damage. Freeze rate is better defense wise while still giving a good amount of damage
fluid bone
I'm so sick of throwing away 30M each time trying to slam frost claw onto twisted heart
wildest thing would be 1/12 chance?
more like 1/6 actually
sturdy summit
I bet whoever started this +FC fad is really making bank frontrunning this market bubble.
fluid bone
It's gross. But it is a pretty nice build. Super chill just flame ward around and spam FC for infinite ward. I even have the skill node to trigger invocation on flame ward
sturdy summit
there are other fc nova builds that let you do that and don't require +4 FC, or even +3
fluid bone
Better than anything I tried with falconer
I can probably get by with just +1 on relic. But isn't getting end end game gear the goal?
sturdy summit
true, if you can afford it
fluid bone
I can afford to throw away 30M once a week lol
plush briar
sturdy summit
I'm cold 🥶
half ivy
It's gross. But it is a pretty nice build. Super chill just flame ward around an...
is there a link for the build guide? im pretty much done for the cycle but i dont mind taking a look
fluid bone
is there a link for the build guide? im pretty much done for the cycle but i don...
bootynoodles on youtube has a couple videos with links to build planner. I would go with those
half ivy
bootynoodles on youtube has a couple videos with links to build planner. I would...
ty i'll take a look
round elm
how is the mark of the forbidden flame node on flame rush that consumes ignite to deal it instantly
is it giga troll bc it fks ur ward and hp
bc id rather not take enchant weapon to pop my ignite
idle cape
Hi. Have made a second character thats a spellblade, and am trying to speedlevel. Keep dying in early monoliths, and am wondering how to survive
sonic zealot
best thing to use rune of ascendence on for runemaster?
hollow arrow
could try to get enigma offhand
hollow totem
How good is dragorath? Ik ladle is better but just got a couple 3lp daggers
fast birch
Bruh +3+4 fc really is not a must into the heart for breeze through to corruption 1000++ I’m sitting at 1500++ without it just simple 16 int heart with proper build with fc sc.
hollow totem
Bruh +3+4 fc really is not a must into the heart for breeze through to corruptio...
yeah you don't need it
dusk grail
Anyone got some weird builds they wanna test out without investing time into? Im testing builds offline just send a link to build planner to me
fast birch
Prio int then 2nd cast speed will drive u to the 1000+++ maybe 2000 I’m just lazy lol
Fc nova build summore freeze the fps to 1-2 lol can’t even play properly
round elm
Anyone got some weird builds they wanna test out without investing time into? Im...
how do u do this
glad island
whats a better roll for chest for frosbite? cold damage over time or ice barrage/freeze multiplier? (already have frosbite on hit)
royal gull
Can Ember Wake do any damage other than Fire or is it fixed even if you change Flame Rush itself to Cold / Lightning tags?
Also do people ever go to 150% resistance in anything on purpose?
unborn hamlet
Frostbite stacks cold res for shackles
Warlocks stack Necro res for dunno which skills
That's the two I know, there might be others
spice warren
...hold up, are LETools links blocked in here?
karmic folio
If i have -25% damage taken from ignited enemies while also having -25% damage taken from shocked enemies, how do these stack with each other? it says "multiplicative with other modifiers" do they mean inversive multiplicative like in diablo 4?
unborn hamlet
they don't multiplicate by the same type of effect
They will each multiplicate with something like armor mitigation, but not with each other
Or at least that's how it should work
hollow arrow
lol t7 cast spd and t2 int weaver gloves in AH for 1.2b
still has 9 weaver wills left
unborn hamlet
KekW
hollow arrow
could be t7 int, t7 cast
unborn hamlet
See this is what I was talking about
hollow arrow
plus gloves have +6 attributes
unborn hamlet
There is no way to justify that cost
unborn hamlet
Y'all MG people just on that hard cope
unborn hamlet
It's not worth bro
hollow arrow
i know im just talking
lmao
someone will buy tho for sure
i'll just keep nabbing weaver gloves and trying my own
unborn hamlet
The weaver items look interesting, theoretically if I god roll some good weaver ring it might replace my rings very easily
It's just exactly that
Every ring that had 20+ I tried was an instant brick
Game didn't even give me that cope bone to push it
Just insta roll something stupid like stun avoidance
hollow arrow
no faith in weavers, thats why its no good
i got a nice pair of gloves for my VK tonight tho
melee atk spd & crit chance
t7 crit and t6 atk spd
it's like 24% atk spd and 90% crit?
something like that
unborn hamlet
Y'day I dropped 4LP sunwreath twice, the heirloom 3LP, the tounge ring 4lp, 24 weaver rings, and 3LP whatever the girl name is U fight before lagon
All statistically way more impossible to drop ocearon with 2LP
hollow arrow
lmao
unborn hamlet
Game just hates me
I drop 1 ocearon that rolled like absolute doodoo with 1LP, and both bricked
In like 250k favor
hollow arrow
i gotta get my CoF rm up at some point
decided to farm bunch of monos tonight
made some monies
still debating what belt i should do
i picked up a nice praetorian one
unborn hamlet
queen chaps 4LP or that belt with base armor 4LP
hollow arrow
mana regen, lightning dmg, armor/reduced crit and t6 CDR
unborn hamlet
The wood one
unborn hamlet
mana regen, lightning dmg, armor/reduced crit and t6 CDR
Sounds like juice
hollow arrow
i tried to seal it
but both 4's went to 5
it's not terrible
armor roll is on lower side
but i think better than no lp strand lol
unborn hamlet
The "aspirational" build I'm looking at has a 3LP strand of souls, and honestly that's the most copium item in there
hollow arrow
i could nab a 3lp legacy belt for 10m
unborn hamlet
You look at 3LP ocearons and frozen ire and 4LP acid flask, and yeah, all doable
hollow arrow
aint nothing
unborn hamlet
Then they kill it with 3LP strand of souls and I just chuckled