🧙┃mage

[safe grail]

lol

[hollow arrow]

[stiff crown]

Kyo's dividing by zero

[signal oak]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9XX5zDA

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (19) / Runemaster (64)

General:

▸ Health: 1,050, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 329, Regen: 13/s
▸ Ward Retention: 478%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 10 Dex / 113 Int / 0 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 41% / 33% / 48% / 13% / 44% / 17% / 42%
▸ EHP: 1,266 / 1,195 / 1,336 / 1,077 / 1,198 / 990 / 1,176

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 265
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,178)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 69%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (23)
• Runic Invocation (25)
• Flame Ward (22)
• Flame Rush (22)
• Elemental Nova (25)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Unstable Core
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Julra's Stardial
• Font of the Erased
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[dusty steppe]

funny how 1 point makes that much diff

[signal oak]

This is mine, the only thing thats different is a crack in the ice

[sturdy summit]

having trouble dividing by zero? I can help with that. Would you like to buy a shiny new real number line with advanced features?

[signal oak]

And celestial conflux

[safe grail]

okay those are like

major things

that generate ward lmao

[signal oak]

I've not gone a crack in the ice yet because im having huge mana issues on bossing currently

[hollow arrow]

alright time for a break

150k favor should be enough for now lmao

[safe grail]

ya cause you ahve 2/3 gift of winter

3/3 is needed to not have mana issues

[sturdy summit]

^

[safe grail]

aslso

[signal oak]

Do I drop 1 spark of celerity to put into 3/3 gift of the winter?

[safe grail]

no

[hollow arrow]

yeah

[safe grail]

omg

w8 yes

[hollow arrow]

spark of celerity can be dropped to 2

[safe grail]

you have

4/5 spark

LMAO

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[safe grail]

also drop frozen malice

and get to crack in the ice

you only pick up frozen malice when you have extra skill pts to get spark to 3/5

[hollow arrow]

so drop frozen malice, 2 spark. put into ever onward, crack in the ice & 3/3 gift of winter

and it'll be a big change for you

[signal oak]

Ok thanks so much

🙏

So I should be ok with 2/3 celestial conflux for now till I can slam +frost claw on OH?

[sturdy summit]

Gift of Winter is one of those things you can't get any other way: Mana regen that scales with cast speed

[hollow arrow]

yeah you're more than fine with 2/3 nova spam

just do the ones we mentioned for now

[sturdy summit]

it's relic, btw

[safe grail]

you just need to be content understanding that you are GOING to generate less ward

w/ only 2/3

[hollow arrow]

that'll improve your build for the start

[sturdy summit]

for +FC, you need to get that on relic

[signal oak]

Derp sorry.

[sturdy summit]

easy mistake to make

[safe grail]

@fair tiger (gr8 name btw) Dont think i forgot about u

[signal oak]

I've got a +3 frost claw exalted relic and a 1lp heart, just need to be able to not be bad on T4 sanctum boss

[safe grail]

i need to go lvl my skills rq

[sturdy summit]

good luck with that. that slam is one of the most heartbreaking things you can do in this game.

[hollow arrow]

time to get more weaver gloves

[signal oak]

Ive been mentally preparing for it over the 4-5 times i've wiped on the T4 end boss 😢

[safe grail]

you can cheese it for the most part

what are you generally wiping to?

[signal oak]

For the most part I will fixate on managing mana, and doing so will miss his cone or the void circle he does infront of him

Its super demoralising coming from a geared afk wrathlord build

But I actually feel like im playing the game now I guess

[sturdy summit]

well, fixing your mana issues ought to help a lot, then

[hollow arrow]

you wont really have to fixate on it once you get that gift of winter back to 3/3

noice someone sold a t7 cast spd off hand for 3m

[marsh ember]

I'm beeing destroyed by julra t4 8 times .. feels sad. I need to upgrade 2 items but i can't because i'm unable to kill her.

[hollow arrow]

time to try 2 more enigma slams

[signal oak]

Skill changes all done, the monolith damage output/mana seems to be noticeably improved and crack in the ice doesnt appear to be affecting my mana so far which is a surprise

[safe grail]

the extra cast from crack in the ice generates procs

that's why it's important

[sturdy summit]

gift of winter procs on indirect casts

[safe grail]

yes it adds 40% mana but it procs gift

[hollow arrow]

as tsiga said, that one point changes a big thing tbh

[signal oak]

Yeah this is really nice all of a sudden, thanks so much everyone!!!!

I feel like theres far more nova procs too

[fair tiger]

😉

[hollow arrow]

you dont have to manage mana, you arent stopping now

so more nova procs lmao

aw yeah, another idol sold for 20m

i love getting those

[signal oak]

Far out which idols

[hollow arrow]

mana efficiency for frost claw with mana/armor

[safe grail]

@fair tiger https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0wwzR3A

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (67)

General:

▸ Health: 1,295, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 180, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 420%, Regen: 25/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 2 Dex / 111 Int / 2 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 127% / 114% / 76% / 86% / 92% / 96% / 86%
▸ EHP: 2,042 / 2,042 / 2,042 / 2,595 / 2,042 / 2,042 / 2,042

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 259
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,887)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Lightning Blast (25)
• Flame Rush (21)
• Snap Freeze (21)
• Runic Invocation (22)
• Flame Ward (21)

Used unique items:

• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Isadora's Tomb Binding
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[safe grail]

(still missing some skill lvls, but i CBA)

get to about 314% cast speed and have over 300% Crit multi

i big chill farm at 300 corruption, but likely could see it doing like 1k easy

[marsh ember]

_

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (19) / Runemaster (64)

General:

▸ Health: 1,050, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 329, Regen: 13/s
▸ Ward Retention: 478%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 10 Dex / 113 Int / 0 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 41% / 33% / 48% / 13% / 44% / 17% / 42%
▸ EHP: 1,266 / 1,195 / 1,336 / 1,077 / 1,198 / 990 / 1,176

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 42%, Threshold: 265
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 28% (1,178)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 69%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (23)
• Runic Invocation (25)
• Flame Ward (22)
• Flame Rush (22)
• Elemental Nova (25)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Unstable Core
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Julra's Stardial
• Font of the Erased
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[hollow arrow]

aight 2 enigmas and 1 bloods

lets see if anything slams

[fair tiger]

Not bad! How do you link your build?

[signal iron]

man I've missed all my past 10 slams it feels like

getting tired ;_;

[fair tiger]

@safe grail Found it... here's mine https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3EE94nQ

[signal iron]

not even getting the boss drops or any LP2s that I actually need

[safe grail]

you gotta hit share

cant just grab the url at the top

[marsh ember]

What do you think of my build : https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGPP8Pxo

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (68)

General:

▸ Health: 1,186, Regen: 39/s
▸ Mana: 281, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 508%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 1 Dex / 108 Int / 1 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 55% / 31% / 63% / 64% / 38% / 77% / 97%
▸ EHP: 1,328 / 1,108 / 1,429 / 1,642 / 1,164 / 1,601 / 1,601

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 237
▸ Armor Mitigation: 32% (1,579)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 31%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Ward (21)
• Runic Invocation (24)
• Lightning Blast (25)
• Flame Rush (21)
• Frost Wall (21)

Used unique items:

• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[safe grail]

3 LP ladle and whiffed cast speed? oof

[marsh ember]

well, critical strike multiplier is also good i think no ?

[sturdy summit]

multi and cast speed are the two you really want

[marsh ember]

strand of soul and twited hearth of uhkeiros are 2lp, but i'm so bad at julra t4 ...

[stiff crown]

That's because you missed the cast speed

[fair tiger]

Wow what faction are you?

Did you find 2lp strand and twisted heart?

[safe grail]

im still indifferent about strand on LB spark charge

[sturdy summit]

I don't see faction ranks on any of the items

[marsh ember]

i'm cof

[fair tiger]

How long did it take you to farm those....? I've been farming for ages

[marsh ember]

farming strand of soul was kind of easy, just don't talk to the npc, got back in town and kill the boss in chain.

[fair tiger]

Ohhh what I didn'

know about that

[safe grail]

think that was patched recently.

[fair tiger]

Oh damn...

[marsh ember]

For Uhkeiros, it was full luck, first loot at 2lp after around 10 boss kill.

[sturdy summit]

I don't remember it ever letting you get boss drops

only prophecies

[hollow arrow]

failed first enigma, int didnt go on blood but movement did

so i can use that for now to be fast as fk

[signal oak]

Re bossing with these new changes, is it advantageous to be stacked on the boss for the frostclaw bounceback to player?

[hollow arrow]

hopefully 2nd enigma goes lmao

[sturdy summit]

if you don't complete the echo after killing the boss and then come back and kill the boss again, it doesn't drop boss loot a second time

[marsh ember]

it did around 1 week ago

[sturdy summit]

is that a bug they introduced after release?

because it didn't, longer than a week ago

I did that several times on formosus, and only got prophecies

[fair tiger]

damn bro you're so lucky..

[sturdy summit]

maybe it only worked on abomination? I didn't try it there.

[hollow arrow]

i'll try lol

[barren pawn]

yknow i dropped a 3lp twiste dlike a week or two ago?

ask @safe grail what it sold for

[sturdy summit]

100 billion dollars

[barren pawn]

^ i wish

[safe grail]

700m?

lol

[hollow arrow]

failed 2nd enigma

[barren pawn]

dude i told you already

[hollow arrow]

oof

[barren pawn]

two weeks ago

70m.

[sturdy summit]

and is it 700 million now?

[barren pawn]

a week later, they are 10x that

not that i really care

[sturdy summit]

a week from now, they'll be 7 billion

[barren pawn]

^ thank god thats aint possible

[sturdy summit]

hyperinflation doesn't let you "sell at the top"

[barren pawn]

some sh1t would already be there

uis it could be listed for moe than the gold cap

2.1b

[sturdy summit]

when it hits the gold cap, you simply won't be able to buy that stuff anymore, I bet

[barren pawn]

ill jsut hit up my buddy for a gold infusion

[sturdy summit]

that's what's supposed to happen when there are artificial price caps

[barren pawn]

man just quit the game

so he gave me that 4lp ladle

and a craptron of gold

[safe grail]

ya and then you bricked it

[sturdy summit]

the one that's a brick now

[safe grail]

HEHEXD

omg.

[barren pawn]

I mean its not that bad

[safe grail]

it rly aint

[barren pawn]

its completely usable

just not for a build ill be using anytime soon

[pale magnet]

What weapon type is the best for a sorcerer (wand, two-hand staff, others?)?

[neon lynx]

bow

[sturdy summit]

if I did sorc, I'd probably try to make use of that staff that makes meteor into lightning

it's too bad that the staff is for sorc, while the helm that goes together with it in the set is better for runemaster. Although, the set bonus is nice, you gotta be runemaster to convert shock into more damage for brand of deception

[barren pawn]

HOLY HELL

[pale magnet]

I'm not very far yet, lvl 42, just trying to bulk my gear a bit

[barren pawn]

I HAVE DIS HITTING FOR 500K

[sturdy summit]

runemasters have passives that care about whether you're using a catalyst, or what sort of weapon you have. Sorcs don't really have that, afaik. Just use whatever you get that has the best stats. You might find it easier to do that with a 1h and catalyst, but if you get an amazing staff that's better than both of those, go ahead and use it.

[barren pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118280356701945936/1220910822537039912/Last_Epoch_2024-03-22_21-43-01.mp4?ex=6610a8cf&is=65fe33cf&hm=4cfb2492555ddc0299171983c5e0f25c82223db783d3f101ed690fc5f080d647&

[barren pawn]

I uhh. theres a clip.

[sturdy summit]

this isn't going to give my computer turbo anthrax, right?

[mild marlin]

What catalyst are people using for plasma orb?

[pale magnet]

THanks

[barren pawn]

no.

You can literally see that the file name is windows generated with a timestamp and game name lmao

[sturdy summit]

I'm just kidding :p

[hollow arrow]

turbo cancer

totally

[sturdy summit]

oh right, thank you, turbo cancer, not turbo anthrax

wow, focus!

[barren pawn]

watch the whole clip XD

[signal oak]

I finally got the T4 boss down with the changes, thank christ. I murdered a 1lp heart with mana regen, haha. Time to try again.. +3 frost claw relics are 35m now 😦

[hollow arrow]

gj killing julra, rip on heart

[sturdy summit]

way above 500k

[barren pawn]

wowwweee windows make smy game look like sh1t when i record

[stiff crown]

You lucky training dummies don't hit back

[tacit vector]

Does elemental damage over time affix affect disintegrate twice if it has both fire and lightning tag? so a T5 350% increase in ele dot equates to 700% increase?

[barren pawn]

no

Not that im aware of

[tacit vector]

ayt thanks, that'd be too op i guess

[hollow arrow]

yeah they did fix the abomination boss thing

figured i'd try

[sturdy summit]

tags don't matter

[tacit vector]

can you expound on that?

[sturdy summit]

"elemental damage over time" doesn't apply to spells with elemental tags, it applies to elemental-type damage. The actual damage you deal is what matters.

[sturdy summit]

if your spell deals multiple types of damage, it will apply once to each type of damage that qualifies, and not at all to the types that don't.

so if you have a wand that adds +10 void spell damage? that +10 is unaffected.

[tacit vector]

yeah that part i get

[sturdy summit]

so that's the only thing that matters. the tags have nothing to do with it.

if you had a modifier like "Deal increased damage with elemental spells" that's different. That means tags.

[tacit vector]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AIwBhQ

this prefix

[sturdy summit]

yes, I know

that says damage

it affects elemental damage

[tacit vector]

disintegrate does elemental damage right? specifically fire and lightning

or is there some distinction

[sturdy summit]

and each of those is affected separately

the fire damage gets it once, and the lightning damage gets it once

[tacit vector]

so does that mean it gets applied doubly to disintegrate?

[sturdy summit]

no

1/2 + 1/2 = 1

[tacit vector]

oh disintegrate does half of it in fire and half of it in lightning? i see thats where i got confused

[sturdy summit]

yes, that's right

there's no such thing as damage that is both lightning and fire at the same time

a spell with multiple damage types means it has multiple bases of different types

[tacit vector]

ahh i see, thank you so much for the clarification

[sturdy summit]

elemental nova, before you spec it, deals 6/6/6 damage

for example

[neon lynx]

thats actually how much damage nova deals

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[signal oak]

Another heart destroyed.. 13% cast speed 😢

[sturdy summit]

now now, cast speed isn't bad!

[hollow arrow]

better than nothing, could use that till you get fc

[sturdy summit]

it's not what you want maybe, but that's still a good item

[hollow arrow]

we need some d2 teleporting for julras maze

oh hey 2lp julras

ayyyyyyyy enigma finally went

another success when i get 2lp julras ring

[sturdy summit]

grats!

[hollow arrow]

thats sus

guess i gotta run julras until i get 2lp then slam lmao

[sturdy summit]

you get some amazing drops

[hollow arrow]

im just happy to get them

alright so almost 400 crit

almost 200 cast

oh wait 200 cast with my original gloves, forgot im using weavers rn

i still need int on helm/boots/chest

less stuff to buy finally lmao

[stiff crown]

Why are there duplicated exalted items on the market with more than 1 Forging Potential? Like every stat and roll is the same

[hollow arrow]

dupes from arbor

[stiff crown]

Oh ok

[hollow arrow]

yeah, then you can dupe it again

imagine getting x4 +4 fc relics

[sturdy summit]

I guess the fact that that's theoretically possible is what justifies it being so hard for everyone that doesn't do that?

[hollow arrow]

mhm

i might do some arbor runs myself

see if i can get any juicy t6/t7's

oh right i got this t6 julras ring that i slammed

turns out i can sell it

hmm

[fair tiger]

@sturdy summit @safe grail hey guys... why is cast speed/crit multi recommended over lightning/spell dmg on mad ladle?

[safe grail]

you get dmg from closed circuit

and crit chance

[fair tiger]

what is closed circuit? I'm trying to look for it

[sturdy summit]

lightning blast node

[fair tiger]

ohhhhh

[sturdy summit]

makes it chain back to you and buff you

[fair tiger]

but this is also recommended for frost claw

[sturdy summit]

in general, almost regardless of your build, like unless you're doing channeling, cast speed is going to be one of the best stats because it just multiplies everything.

it's not even more damage. it's more MORE damage

it's more damage at the same time as more ward and just more everything

[fair tiger]

yeah I see what you're saying

[stiff crown]

Thing about closed circuit is the target has to be kinda close. Like less than half screen

[signal oak]

Rip my 3rd heart

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[sturdy summit]

oh, bless your heart, has a completely different meaning now

[fair tiger]

lol

[signal oak]

I need a mod to change my name to Heart Breaker at this point, hahah

[sturdy summit]

:D

should be a steam achievement

[misty turtle]

Any interesting build for Mage?

[sturdy summit]

nope

[signal oak]

It honestly should lol..

[hollow arrow]

welp next will be chest i think

either static or unstable 1lp with int for now

[wheat gyro]

whats the overall strongest lightning builds

ive got lightning blast rn but wanna see if theres another

[sturdy summit]

spark charge

[wheat gyro]

thx

[hollow arrow]

ohhh more t6 low life gloves

[signal oak]

4th heart dead

Far out

[teal oasis]

Got a rune of ascendance, what do I test my luck on?

[hollow totem]

since when do you lose stability for dying to timeline boss?

Dragon boss was at 0% hp and I died and now I lost like 40 stability or something

[radiant vessel]

Since forever ago, think it only happens in empowered though, not sure

[hollow totem]

oh... I only started in 1.0 but I don't recall it happening before.

[hollow totem]

Also do prophecies glitch out when you reload the area? Like I rerolled and had a kill dragon 2x and get 10 exalt relics each time for 9500 so went back to get it and I clicked it and the tree went blank and I never got it D:

[radiant vessel]

Not sure about that one, If you think you've encountered a bug please report it via the in-game tool

[hollow totem]

ok thx

[quiet drift]

Just listed a t6 frost claw exalted relic in the MG for 40m, hasnt been crafted on yet. Hope one of you considers buying , cheers

[hollow arrow]

3lp peak

👀

[hollow totem]

ggz

[barren pawn]

that all thats on it?

[hollow arrow]

lets ese if we get anything from soul gambla

[hollow totem]

and that's 9 hearts in a row with no lp 🙃

[hollow arrow]

lol

rip

last four i've gotten have been non lp

[candid lark]

yo any reccomended lvling runemaster?

[hollow totem]

beyond demoralizing tbh. Makes me not want to play the build anymore not being able to get the most important thing for it even tho I really enjoy the build

[surreal root]

any way to manipulate weaver's will? or just get lucky

[hollow totem]

rng

[hollow arrow]

damn did alot of farmin today

[hollow totem]

hey if I use a glyph of insight does it upgrade the affix tier as well or no?

[surreal root]

no

[hollow totem]

oof

alr got a goated ass belt now just need a 2lp strand of souls to slam it into

[hollow arrow]

noice

[half ivy]

hey guys just wondering if i dodge a hit does it still count as a hit? trying to figure out how often "chance to gain lightning aegis when hit" will proc on an idol

[glass canopy]

Dragorath runemaster rullz

[warm vault]

frost claw + isnt dropping :(((

[surreal root]

it's one of the rarest affixes... just keep farming

[hollow totem]

rare is a major understatement

[hollow arrow]

i found like 7 +1's today

but no 3 or 4 lol

[hollow totem]

yeah +1s are common at least from my experience but +3/4 is ungodly rare

[hollow arrow]

yeah ive had only one of each 3 and 4

i got lucky with the only 1lp heart i got and slammed 16 int into it

[steady summit]

Where's most of the damage come from for frost claw? Is it the int stacking?

[hollow arrow]

so im leaving that alone lmao

frost claw hits multiple times is why

[hollow totem]

another 60 relics from prophecy and not a single dman one with +fc ranks 🙃 bout to just go make my marksman

[surreal root]

depends on which version your playing, if your playing the frostbite version it comes from scaling elemental damage over time, if you're playing the lightning version it comes mostly from +spell dmg to spark charge from int scaling

[glass canopy]

U know what ull drop playin marksman right?

[surreal root]

but it both builds the frost claw itself isn't doing most of your dmg, it's just hitting a lot really fast

[tidal needle]

Yesterday till now, i have a problem and i dont see at all my cursor on game, and only on game, did verify my files and still nothing, and help or clue about how fix it?

[hollow totem]

?

[steady summit]

gotcha, appreciate it

[glass canopy]

FC relic

[hollow totem]

I am getting plenty but they are +1s

I doubt I'd get +3/4 fc on the marksman but just in case I'll include it in my filter lol

[glass canopy]

Did u get the blessing with relic shards drop raised?

[surreal root]

you can also get away with a +2 but you have to run the unstable core variant and have the frost claw efficieny idols

[hollow totem]

yeah but what good does that do? Just drops shards of fc ranks no?

[hollow totem]

I am currently doing that but the only heart I have to slam is a 2lp and I feel it's a waste to slam T6 int with only +2fc

[surreal root]

yeah don't slam it, just gets you into novaclaw faster

without mana problems

[hollow totem]

I am having 0 mana issues atm anyway so need to rush slammig

[warm vault]

how many dragons did you kil for the 2lp heart

[hollow totem]

tbh I got it healla early on my falconer a while back xD

was my first lp heart

[surreal root]

it's not as much dmg, but if you want to have a lot of fun, throw on a +4 or +5 crest of unity and max the area on nova... triple elemental max screen nova's will melt your computer

[hollow totem]

my compter be chillin and I got int on prismatic atm

[hollow arrow]

i got int on my crest lol, might swap to that in future not sure yet

no int on chest or boots tho rip

[hollow totem]

aye finally another +3fc relic

Now to just get a lp heart to slam xd

[royal gull]

Trip report: loving Frost Runemaster a lot more than the other masteries so far, though I didn't actually try Sorc yet. It just .. I will try it eventually, but first impression of the high mana cost spells wasn't great, and it doesn't seem to be complicated to play in any interesting ways

[barren pawn]

sORC IS INSANELY FUN

caps

its not as powerful as rune boi

but its damn sure more fun imo

[royal gull]

Runemaster I'm looking forward to Frostwall -> cold Lightning Blast nodes autocasting -> Runebolt fired through Frostwall -> Flame Rush mod to Cold auto-casting triple Heo rune Invocs

With the offhand that autocasts Blizzard with Frostwall

I can't think of any layered interactions like that on Sorc

I know Frost Claw and Ice Barrage have something, but that was all I could really think of

Black Hole -> Meteor but you can't make Meteor cold, only Lightning

Runemaster makes me feel smart for planning my interactions with its core abilities

Even if these are not optimal, game feels good

Flame Rush -> Static Orb interaction could be fun I guess, dunno if you'd call that more Runemaster or Sorc though

[unborn hamlet]

@barren pawn gratz and f off 😠

I have 9 in my stash now, not a single one landed freeze rate , this game just hates me, it's so hard to farm them on CoF, took me 150 runs for 3 2Lp rings and all failed

[hollow arrow]

julra 2lp?

[unborn hamlet]

Yeah

[hollow arrow]

i cant say nothing about them lmao

[unborn hamlet]

I'm actually just giving up

I'm going to farm ocearons instead

[hollow arrow]

a break from julras may help anyways

[hollow totem]

julra drops 2lp? lmao

[royal gull]

@barren pawn like I have no idea if casting my 1, 2, and 3 Heo rune Invocations during Flame Rush is actually a good use of points, but god damn does it look cool and feel rewarding when that in turn spends my Runic Energy that was building up

[signal oak]

It finally happend

[barren pawn]

thank you, and go slam one now i am sending you my rng

[signal oak]

I finally got +3 frostclaw on a relic, it was my 6th try.

[hollow totem]

ggz now use rune of creation to dupe and don't whiff the slam

I just got another I need to get another lp heart to slam it into it

[signal oak]

Forging potential is already 0 😦

[hollow totem]

oof

[signal oak]

Ok I wasnt super clear, my 6th try I've got +3 frostclaw onto a twisted heart

Ive been murdering hearts all day

[surreal root]

i know i'm gonna get some fk u's for this.... but i hit the quad on my first heart last night 😛

[hollow totem]

oh oh ggz and you so lucky am very jealous

[signal oak]

Good lordy

I used all my luck on 1lp intellect slams first shot on most pieces early on 😦

[hollow totem]

indeed you are going to get a fk u from me at least lol but ggz

I think I used my luck slamming int on red ring xD

Gonna hope my next fc slam is successful

cause since the red ring slam rngeesus has been hoeing me hard hard

[signal oak]

Re the blessings at reign of dragons, is the crit multi better than the crit chance for RM frostclaw?

[hollow totem]

yes

[signal oak]

I keep reading about crit cap, whats the %?

[hollow totem]

that I don't know

[solid copper]

which stats on Strand of Souls are priority?

[surreal root]

ward retention

mana spent as ward is 'nice' but the ward retention is more important

[barren pawn]

no... no it is not

mana spent as ward is a must have for spamy / mana heavy builds.

[steel magnet]

So if I understand Reowyn's Veil correctly, it says "Ward per 40% freeze rate multiplier: 1", so for the sake of simplicity say I have 80% freeze rate multiplier, that means I'd get 2 ward per cast because 1 ward per 40% right? That seems like it's not worth taking that node. Even if it's just freeze rate *0.4=ward per cast, that's still kinda low unless it procs off the 2nd/3rd/etc casts, then it's def worth it

[surreal root]

your ward gen is celestial doom, the ward per mana from the belt is nothing to that, it's about the retention

[hollow totem]

y'all ever had a julra maze that was inaccessible?

[royal palm]

Anyone able to explain how 2 Ocearon rings stack?

[unborn jolt]

I haven't done any build that focuses on mana so far and I'm trying to make a flame reave spellblade (that uses fire/ailments as a dmg source - which is probably a bad idea tbh, stacking is probably too slow). My problem is, that I can't sustain flame reave spam at all. So far I have taken the 'Dancing Flames' Node that reduces mana cost and 'Mana Reaver' Passive.

Are there any other ways (aside from getting mana reg on gear) and be smart about sustain? Any other skills passives maybe (I couldn't find any that work)? And if not my approach would be to just for mana reg - is there a benefit to go mana as well and turn that into a defense layer with ward?

[hollow arrow]

oof 90% move spd perma is fun

[hollow totem]

alright

I need the runemaster experts and 5heads

[woven yarrow]

Only worth if your doing frostbite since you wanna stack freeze multi then anyways for snowdrift boots.
My current char has 2800 freeze rate multi so that node adds a lot of ward per cast

[hollow totem]

is it worth slammnig +3fc/int into a 2lp heart?

[signal oak]

How important is the base crit strike chance to be 4% over 3% on prismatic gaze. The price difference is insane.

[hollow totem]

it's a pretty big difference iirc

[signal oak]

Damn..

[undone light]

bonjour tout le monde !

[surreal root]

that +3 or +4 is to BASE crit... which is 5 with no bonuses, that takes your BASE crit from 5 to 8 or 9, then that is multiplied by all % crit increases it's a big difference

[hollow arrow]

apparently i gotta get on my vk more and do stuff on him lmao, luck be saving up on him

[surreal root]

so a 3 is kind of the same as 160% MORE crit (not increased) and a 4 is the same as 180% MORE (not incresaed) crit

[errant plank]

Hello guyz, i feel like i should review/change my tab management, how are you doing it ?

[spice willow]

00

[hasty folio]

Where i can find or buy Lunar Helmet? I need one for Ashen Crown but cant find it. Dropping from 32 lvl?

I have other (acolyte) char with 82 lvl, dropped ~30 helmet thanks to prophecies but not this one 😅

I have rune of Ascendance

[next lance]

so, ballpark figure...how much HP do I really need?

2000-2500 seems like a sweet spot, 3000 seems possible...

[obsidian reef]

2k-2.5k is good

You have got to sacrifice quite a bit of damage to get 3k

[next lance]

ty

I was wondering because I couldn't seem enough fighting CE at level 85

[signal oak]

Ok amazing thanks a lot for explaining that

[hard orbit]

small question: why specifically prismatic gaze for spark charge runemaster?

[nova linden]

It's 60% and 80% more, but yeah

[nova linden]

For the base crit

[hard orbit]

ooooh ok tyvm

[next mural]

is anyone else farming for the twisted heart kinda boring alone lol

got 1 but sadly no lp

[hollow totem]

get used to it. The last 9 I got were no lp

[next mural]

i might not have good luck with them but i just got my CUCKOO lol i thought i was never gonna get one

[hollow totem]

what is that for? I've seen so many of them just never bothered picking them up

[supple narwhal]

is it true spellblade is one of worst masteries?

[obsidian reef]

how dare you

[hollow totem]

lmao

[next mural]

well the cuckoo broke it brung my from 11k on my frotclaw to 20k now holy

[obsidian reef]

Honestly though, it requires a LOT of investment to push higher corruption

otherwise very squishy

[supple narwhal]

lmao I am still a beginner for ARPGs, and I still have zero clue on how to play endgame correctly

been relying on guides so far

I got a 2LP Sunwreath so I was curious

[thin drift]

Guys, before you get all the +Frost Claw items to properly play Frost Claw Nova, what is a decent build for farming? Most runemaster builds I find require like 26 points in Frost Claw

[supple narwhal]

literally me rn lmao

[obsidian reef]

You can definitely try out spellblade but flame reave spellblade is not as safe as shatterstrike

[supple narwhal]

yikes

well they can always buff Spellblade at some point right?

wow wow wow, I just got a 3LP Rainbow Edge, please say its good lmao

[obsidian reef]

I dont know about good... ☠️

[supple narwhal]

💀

[obsidian reef]

I mean if you slam 3 T7 affixes into a unique then it'll become good 👍

[supple narwhal]

And what is the chance for that happening

💀

[obsidian reef]

all good gg go next

[signal iron]

how does reduced bonus damage from crits work? Is it basically a reduction to enemy crit multiplier? If so, do enemies have more than base crit multiplier or just need 100%?

Wondering if to go for crit avoidance or this stat. This stat sounds better on paper cause you get some armor with it but if enemies sometimes have more, maybe crit avoidance is the way.

[shell fern]

crit avoidance you want to have at 100% meanwhile crit dmg reduction you can be already quite happy with +85% or so. Personally I think it's easier to gear for crit dmg reduction, unless you get crit avoidance from passives(druid for example). And you get decent chunk of armor with the affix aswell.

[signal iron]

alright so its separate from crit multiplier, kinda works the same way as crit avoidance just... better pretty much then lmao

[shell fern]

from what i know every monster has 200% crit multi

so essentially you take 15% more dmg when they crit if you have crit dmg reduction at 85%

you can check on tunklab and see if any enemy skills have higher crit multi but with a quick glance i couldnt find any.

[nova linden]

Yep they have 5% chance 200% multi baseline

[marsh bison]

as a frostclaw runemaster, what yeilds best ward gain_

[hollow totem]

iirc celestial doom the node in the runemaster tree is very good for warding

got the 7 point bonus and now can hit 30k+ on bossing whilst before I was capping at half that maybe a little less

[signal iron]

did not know about tunklab, this is super useful, thanks again for teh replies!

[unborn hamlet]

Wish I had something left to slam, like, low-key I just give up on Julra, going for Ocearons instead

I don't have keys for runs to farm either

[signal iron]

yea celestial doom is nuts vs bosses. Vs mobs I think you just gotta raise cast speed? More hits out = more ward

[hollow totem]

uncomfy you are more or less a mage 5head right?

[marsh bison]

Ya, im runing that but only get like 5-6k ward on bosses.

[unborn hamlet]

Maybe a 5head about the build I'm running, but otherwise I lack knowledge overall

[hollow totem]

what build?

please say nova claw

[unborn hamlet]

FC Frostbite

[hollow totem]

oh

[unborn hamlet]

Anyway, gtg back to work, catch ya 6h later if lucky

:pain:

[hollow totem]

I finally got a +3fc and T5 int relic and I duped it so I got 2 tries but is a T6 fc relic worth slamming into a 2lp heart

[hollow totem]

oof alr have a good day

[unborn hamlet]

Yes

Yes it is

[hollow totem]

ok I thought so and so did my friend

[unborn hamlet]

You can always get +1 from some other items

That's what I did

[hollow totem]

I'm just scared cause my luck recently slamming has been horrendous

[unborn hamlet]

I revamped the whole build to fit in omnis

[shell fern]

lol i did the same

[hollow totem]

I'm ideally trying to get to where I can swap to static shell too over unstable

[shell fern]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qd8ka0aQ my current setup

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (51) / Runemaster (42)

General:

▸ Health: 1,294, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 254, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 472%, Regen: 13/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 1 Dex / 31 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 82% / 173% / 82% / 83% / 105% / 141% / 41%
▸ EHP: 2,004 / 2,004 / 2,004 / 2,245 / 2,004 / 2,004 / 1,490

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 259
▸ Armor Mitigation: 29% (1,353)
▸ Block Chance: 42%, Mitigation 36% (1,041)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Snap Freeze (23)
• Frost Claw (23)
• Static Orb (23)
• Flame Ward (23)
• Flame Rush (23)

Used unique items:

• Unstable Core
• Frozen Ire
• Faith of the Frozen
• Frostbite Shackles
• Strands of Souls
• Snowdrift
• Oceareon
• Omnis
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[nimble orbit]

question, if I have flame rush specced into auto static orb and runic invocation, does the never late bonus damage apply to the static orb or to the runic invocation?

[hollow totem]

AYEEEEEEEEEE POGGERS

WE HIT THE RELIC SLAM LADIES AND GENTS

[steady summit]

I presume runic invocation, since the static orb casts at same time as flame rush no?

Only one way to find out though 😛

[shell fern]

would have to test this, dunno if it works on triggered skills.

[steady summit]

huge, congrats dude

[hollow totem]

tyty

now to really stretch my luck and go for 1/4 slam on int on my static shell

[nimble orbit]

It doesn't say you have to directly cast the next non-channeled spell. Does that passive show a buff that gets consumed when it procs?

you know what, I can just respec one point and test it LMAO

[earnest marten]

Nice build, is snap freeze better than black hole? Plan something similar but with bh

[steady summit]

yeee best bet
Btw, are you making a flame rush build? i've been thinking of doing that after i get more gold to play with

[nimble orbit]

I saw this gale invocation brand of deception build online. I'm just trying to pump more numbers into it

more damage I mean

It utilizes flame rush to bypass immutable order's CD

[steady summit]

interesting, i'll have to look into it

[hardy loom]

was it a +4

[nimble orbit]

okay, it doesn't apply to either static orb or runic invocation after flame rush lmao

[hollow totem]

sadly no only a +3 but I didn't have any ranks before so we tqake those

[nimble orbit]

My first mage build used flame rush, frost wall and lightning blast which was fun too

[hardy loom]

not even +4 smh

jk congratz

i got my 1/4 hit on my 1lp relic too, none left and auction +3 cost like 30m?

🤣

[steady summit]

insane how expensive +3/+4 fc relics are

[hollow totem]

thx lol Mine was actually a 2lp would've been sick af to hit int too but oh well

[hollow totem]

fr

but CoF ftw

[hardy loom]

yeah i got the +3 from way back then and i rune of creation it

[steady summit]

i started w/ cof tbf, but now i cba haha... ive seen the light

[hollow totem]

yeah but to me just buying all your bis gear takes half the fun out of the game

[hardy loom]

alright i need some criticism on my current progress

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9X1295A

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (65)

General:

▸ Health: 1,202, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 297, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 446%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 3 Dex / 105 Int / 3 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 91% / 85% / 79% / 87% / 49% / 20%
▸ EHP: 1,841 / 1,841 / 1,841 / 1,982 / 1,703 / 1,346 / 1,095

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 24%, Threshold: 240
▸ Armor Mitigation: 35% (1,823)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (25)
• Elemental Nova (22)
• Runic Invocation (22)
• Flame Rush (21)
• Flame Ward (21)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[hardy loom]

am i able to get lightning aegis?

[nimble orbit]

I think you can only have lightning aegis on demand if you spec into static orb

not sure of other methods that don't rely on chance tho

[hardy loom]

icic

will look into it

i slammed like 13 ladles with T7 multi

all failed

so used T6 instead

[nimble orbit]

all LP1?

[hardy loom]

Lp2

[nimble orbit]

damn that sucks

[hardy loom]

wanted to hit multi+cast speed

yeah i was questioning life

13

!!!

[nimble orbit]

Not a single one lol

[hardy loom]

i burned thru so much gold sigh

should have just immediately went LP3

gotta go back to the arbor grind fest again

[nimble orbit]

You can get it. I believe in you

[hardy loom]

nah 🤣

im fine to settle with T6 multi T5 cast speed

also, T7 armor int vs lightning shred res blessing

man i can only get one or the other

[spice warren]

Feels weird that a two-hander is kinda more efficient for a spellblade than dual-wielding crystal swords...

[hardy loom]

which two-hander?

for the mana + mana regen?

[spice warren]

Nope, just a regular two-handed sword.

[hardy loom]

i stopped playing my lvl95 spellblade, got annoyed with the mana strike

[spice warren]

Going as an ignite+fire_aura+spreading_flames Fire DoT ward stacker.

Firebrand as a filler + stacker + mana regen, Flame Reave as a discharge. Flame Ward and Enchant Weapon as buffs.

[hardy loom]

oo reave

i only liked shatter strike

[spice warren]

Oh, and Fireball attached to Flame Reave for extra AoE and more ignite.

[glossy ice]

yea i change to cof and hunting for it now

[signal iron]

gl... I feel its easier just finding stuff to sell and buying one than hunting with COF

[spice warren]

Beats me why a staff can't have melee attack speed as a suffix...

Could've been a spellblade's signature thing.

The only staff that has melee attack speed in any capacity is Quarterstaff, and it's an implicit there.

[hardy loom]

from my time as cof, i tend to get +3+4 on ANYTHING other than the one i need

just rng

[shell fern]

well probably best version would be ele nova and proc it with frost claw, but i don't like the visual clutter. and have snap freeze just unspecced on skillbar. blackhole never felt good imo

[signal iron]

yea I've played a ton of RM and only seen it drop once so far. I duped and missed both smashes unfortunately (didn't even get a good backup smash ;_;). Got a ton of trash in my stash tho that I'm hoarding for some reason

honestly the big brain strat might be leveling another character where FC is useless, and then having it magically pop up there even when youre chasing chaotic fissure or something levels. Gotta trick the rng gods

[hardy loom]

i got a +4, accidently shattered it

then got a +3

cof days

😂

[signal iron]

wtf Im actually so jealous 😭

[hardy loom]

yeah thing is every week i seem to open like 5 stash or more

it annoyed me

having to sort through so many

that 95% im not using

so i just went mg

[signal iron]

fellow dragon 💪

I feel like MG is probably just more fun

you can get excited about drops for other things cause they can sell for a lot

[hardy loom]

its the creeping thought ya know "surely i can use this when i play this build"

[signal iron]

also easier to try out new builds

[hardy loom]

yeah both still requires incredible grinding to get the bis 3LP or 4LP

o wells

[signal iron]

Id switch to MG if I could but playing offline since LE-65 and now too far in. sadge

[signal iron]

v true

[hardy loom]

how far in

😂

unlucky

[signal iron]

way too far in lmao, lvl 100 char

[hardy loom]

i have like 5 offline char and decided to try online and wasnt that bad , was like first week of 1.0 release

lmao

[signal iron]

I still get the issue, I just have to do a work around to actually play online that I discovered way too late

kinda nuts its still not fixed a month out

[hardy loom]

ill say theres too many ( or less?) outlier cases for them to push a "once and for all" kinda patch

like me and my friend dont face any of those error

[signal iron]

its super weird how some people get it and some don't

never had this issue with any game before lol

[hardy loom]

it do be like that for online games

[signal iron]

ill probably play online next cycle but this one just trying out classes and builds lol

[earnest marten]

Yea same bout ele nova, i dont mind dmg as long as it feels good to play, is there a reason to go sorc over rm?

[fierce vapor]

Is there someone willing to help me with my Frost Claw Ele Nova build, please? I am following the guide/planner I have but for some reason, I can't build up my ward against bosses and get one-shotted even at 170 corruption. I cover the min req set by the author such as +3 frost claw relic and have all else covered except a "reduced crit received" roll on the chest piece. I also have the passives with the 'brand on bosses" YET somehow can't build more than 2,6-3k ward. This is the planner https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWXbg19B . Thank you!

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (16) / Runemaster (77)

General:

▸ Health: 1,582, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 155, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 516%, Regen: 25/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 13 Dex / 134 Int / 13 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 75% / 70% / 67% / 73% / 69% / 72%
▸ EHP: 60,841 / 62,960 / 59,976 / 69,152 / 62,034 / 59,693 / 61,135

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 316
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,100)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Arcane Momentum (1/5), Jagged Veil, Runeword Hurricane, Flame Ward

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (26)
• Runic Invocation (22)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Flame Rush (21)
• Elemental Nova (28)

Used unique items:

• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Crest of Unity
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Foot of the Mountain
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

This build has a guide:

1.0 | Nova Runemaster Deletes The Screen - LE Elemental Nova Runemaster Build Guide by Allie

[sturdy summit]

not really. I think people go sorc just because they want the fantasy of playing sorc, or because they don't want to play the meta class

[shell fern]

not really, probably abit more mana/easier mana sustain but rm has more access to defenses. this is old toon from beta which i've been playing since before rm. haven't bothered to make rm yet because i feel it is still very overtuned.

[severe juniper]

Could someone help me out with T4 Sanctum? I am close but cant quite get it.

IGN is Wildgoat. Appreciate it.

[sturdy summit]

link your character

[hollow totem]

Is it even worth trying to slam an lp1 stranded souls? xD

[crimson raft]

25% yes 😛

[signal iron]

I think getting LP2 is very hard on that one no? I would smash it and try

[hollow totem]

reason I ask is cause my 0lp has 176% of mana gained as ward and the 1lp is 76%

[hollow totem]

I think you are right

is a significant loss of ward no?

[sturdy summit]

are you spending a lot of mana, or have you reduced the cost of your spells to nothing? figure out exactly how much mana/sec you spend to change that into a ward/sec

[crimson raft]

Not really, the ward retention and ward on kill and wps is nicer

[fierce vapor]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVNpqbPA Thank you

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 92

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (16) / Runemaster (69)

General:

▸ Health: 1,099, Regen: 19/s
▸ Mana: 180, Regen: 16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 438%, Regen: 25/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 17 Dex / 112 Int / 17 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 75% / 93% / 200% / 81% / 92% / 86% / 118%
▸ EHP: 1,614 / 1,614 / 1,614 / 1,745 / 1,614 / 1,614 / 1,614

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 220
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (88)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 21% (757)
▸ Block Chance: 1%, Mitigation 7% (40)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (23)
• Elemental Nova (25)
• Flame Rush (20)
• Runic Invocation (21)
• Flame Ward (20)

Used unique items:

• Crest of Unity
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Foot of the Mountain

[hollow totem]

I have fc at 19 a cast

I currently have 339 mana

I spam tf outta fc xD

[hollow totem]

fr?

[sturdy summit]

so what does that actually come out to as ward per sec? then you can compare

[crimson raft]

What?

[hollow totem]

fr=for real? Like those are the stats that matter more?

[crimson raft]

It is an int stacking build right?

[hollow totem]

yes

[crimson raft]

So yeah, ward retention over everything IMO.

[sturdy summit]

calculate how much ward per second you're getting from "mana spent to ward" and you can see that it's not that much

[hollow totem]

ok thx you 2

[sturdy summit]

100% mana to ward and 1 FC per second is only 19 wps, for example

[signal iron]

your FC is fire type btw

[hollow totem]

oh word? idk but I thought it was a lot different than that

[signal iron]

not sure if intentional

[hollow totem]

so I ideally want lightning dmg or mana on potion use gained as ward correct?

[sturdy summit]

you're probably casting it more than once a second, you'll need to add your cast speed yourself, but that's about the order of magnitude

[soft elm]

What to do when u feel demotivated/bored?
Change build? quit until next season?
I'm running frostbite RM now, corr 400 and can go higher but it's boring

[sturdy summit]

go outside on a nice day and take a walk while the sun is shining

[crimson raft]

Aaargh the SUN melts

[soft elm]

Can't walk, i'm handicapped

[signal iron]

I don't think youre applying your brand on bosses therefore low ward. celestial doom doesn't proc.

[fierce vapor]

It is how it was on the planner I follow.

[sturdy summit]

then at least sit out in the sun and relax

[fierce vapor]

How do I fix that?

[soft elm]

Ok but, i was about the game, not IRL

[sturdy summit]

mental health is part of gaming

[soft elm]

Bro, i'm ok, i'm getting bored in game, not my life

[sturdy summit]

you asked for advice, and you got it.

if you don't want to take it, that's up to you

[shell fern]

make an alt with very different playstyle, overtuned builds tend to make you bored quicker. make your own build

[soft elm]

I created a warlock but got bored after 20lv 😄

[signal iron]

per the skill description it says its procs from lightning skills with 15+ mana cost. Try switching to lightning rather than fire. I'm not sure if there intent is that brand procs off of ele nova but I don't think it matches the requirements for that node?

[shell fern]

maybe try a melee toon or something

[soft elm]

it's frustrating create an alt on this game, with diablo u just level it up and gg, 10minutes

[shell fern]

also taking a break can help with getting bored, like play something else for a moment and then come back

[sturdy summit]

yeah, if their intent is to proc it off ele nova, they didn't read the ability, since ele nova is almost free :p

[soft elm]

it's time to play LoL maybe

[fierce vapor]

Where are the dummies positioned? I will go test it out there as I doubt the content creator made a wrong planner.

[signal iron]

arena place are where teh dummies are

[soft elm]

but you don't have a dps checker or similar

[signal iron]

yea lol, its a neat spin on the build and enjoy when people experiment a bit with things but not sure if it actually works from what I'm seeing?

[signal iron]

hes just checking ward generation

[signal iron]

I kinda enjoy alts at first cause you get all these uniques and can make an uber twink but once you reach monoliths its a bit of a drag yea

[soft elm]

i was thinking the same, i'v put a bunch of 2/3lp uniques on my alt, maybe acolyte is not for me

[trim jasper]

Hopefully theyll make a codex for blessings in the next updates

[signal iron]

I think I didn't enjoy the class until sprit plague, then it was kinda fun making a disease build. But yea kinda agree with you its a bit of a weird one

[sturdy summit]

necro is the best acolyte

just sit around and let your minions kill

[soft elm]

It's like playing yuumi in LoL

[sturdy summit]

if only you could sit on your bone golem's shoulder as it zooms around

[signal iron]

this would be sick... and if you could actually control the bone golem

necro was fun but kinda became boring just waddling around

[soft elm]

maybe i just switch to lightning build

[sturdy summit]

it would be more like playing yuumi if you couldn't, though 🤣

[fierce vapor]

It gets to 7k ward which compared to the 30k+ in vid ..... and it was not easy to reach this 7k

[sturdy summit]

7k is a decent ward for 200 corruption

[spice warren]

30+k was due to a bug, no?

[sturdy summit]

nope

[signal iron]

never played LoL so didnt know, used to be a dota nerd 😂

[fierce vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crXaYJD_gV8&t=1s&ab_channel=Allie

[sturdy summit]

the dota equivalent would be Io, I think. You attach yourself to another player and move with them instead of on your own. Yuumi doesn't even build boots.

[soft elm]

how to be blind

[fierce vapor]

@signal iron I also did not notice the celestial icon on the dummy

[signal iron]

ohhh I see

I didnt know LoL had an Io, thats pretty awesome

[fierce vapor]

It could be fun thou 😄

[sturdy summit]

Yuumi isn't as awesome as Io, unfortunately. Heavily nerfed since release.

[full bluff]

I think there is 1 point put wrong in the Frost Claw in your planner

[soft elm]

Yes but requires a relic with +3/4 frost claw

[fierce vapor]

I have +3

[fierce vapor]

Which one? Thank you.

[sturdy summit]

good luck smashing it on twisted heart, though

[soft elm]

100h and never dropped a yellow one

[full bluff]

Did you take Fire and lightning nodes damage nodes at same time?

[sturdy summit]

I think twisted heart is the next upgrade you're looking for to push your ward higher.

[earnest marten]

Not really required, its still work on cr400 with no fc relic+3/4 for me, relic is just a luxury not a mandatory

[soft elm]

without taking the nodes on the left, right?

[fierce vapor]

Ally say you can easy push 2k+ corruption with a +3/+4 without twisted h

[sturdy summit]

doesn't seem that easy, though, right?

[fierce vapor]

yes lol

😄

[full bluff]

Yes, 2k+ corruption shades are easy 🙂

[sturdy summit]

Allie is the only one who you can ask why she thinks that

[full bluff]

Remove the fire point

[soft elm]

i give a try on her lightning build

[fierce vapor]

I did but it still dose not apply the celestial doom debuff

[full bluff]

It is s not a celestial doom debuff, it is a brand of deception on the boss that trigger it

[earnest marten]

Take all lefties but no volley, it is indeed kinda slow when boss, but im happy at 400 soo yeah

[full bluff]

You can also use brand from firewall

If you want to play fire build 🙂

[sturdy summit]

no volley? madness

[fierce vapor]

Thanks will give it a try again.

Thank you all for the help. Much appreciated.

[earnest marten]

So which better no volley or no lefties? I dont tried no lefties tbh

[sturdy summit]

I don't get the multiple casts, but I use a sceptre

so I can get my mana positive using spellslinger

[sturdy summit]

you also probably have too many points in mana efficiency. Do you have more than 2?

[full bluff]

I dropped elemental nova procs and just use frost claw, bit slower on aoe clears, but easier on bosses (which are the hard part)

[sturdy summit]

elemental nova procs produce a lot of ward, though. How is your ward generation without nova? what skill do you specialize instead of nova?

[full bluff]

Depends on build version, on rm/frostbite build I use fire wall instead of elemental nova. On sorc/spark I use meteor instead of elemental nova.

Ward is up to 40k on rm/frostbite and 25k on sorc/spark

[sturdy summit]

could I see your frostbite build?

[full bluff]

Fire wall = brand and more dmg

[sturdy summit]

which brand? the fire brand?

[full bluff]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ozwX4X8A

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Spellblade (1) / Runemaster (67)

General:

▸ Health: 1,042, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 217, Regen: 15/s
▸ Ward Retention: 458%, Regen: 96/s
▸ Attributes: 0 Str / 2 Dex / 38 Int / 0 Att / 0 Vit
▸ Resistances: 69% / 166% / 68% / 87% / 119% / 97% / 67%
▸ EHP: 1,325 / 1,411 / 1,318 / 1,511 / 1,411 / 1,411 / 1,300

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 280
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (149)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (697)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Runic Invocation (20)
• Ice Barrage (22)
• Frost Wall (20)
• Frost Claw (24)
• Teleport (20)

Used unique items:

• Wrongwarp
• Frostbite Shackles
• Strands of Souls
• Snowdrift
• Throne of Ambition

[sturdy summit]

thank you!

[full bluff]

yes, fire brand, to get ward from celestial doom with cold frost claw

[sturdy summit]

okay, interesting

I'm also doing frostbite, but quite differently

[full bluff]

Fire wall also gives 14% more damage to chilled enemy

(from any source)

I gave up elemental nova because it made it impossible to see anything on screen and giving me a headache

[sturdy summit]

I used fire wall for a bit while levelling, but switched to glyph of dominion. I might go back to fire wall, though

not instead of nova, though

I'm also considering (cold) static orb

for lightning aegis

[full bluff]

On runemaster spark build I still use elemental nova, but rarely play it. Mostly using sorcerer now

[sturdy summit]

the problem with spark build is you can't take teleport and frostguard at the same time, though, since frost claw is the wrong rune.

[full bluff]

yes, thats the sacrifice

[sturdy summit]

I can't stand flame rush. It's a bad ability. Good for builds, but bad ability

[steady folio]

Hey there, new to the game and was going back and forth between sorc and runemaster. I have been wanting to do a fire type build and was wondering if this would be good to start with. I am also curious about end game and corruption some of these guides say 400 some say 2000+. That may be way more than I can even figure out.

https://youtu.be/_qASlcZKUmg?si=laNg0vxyE3M5CrSw

[full bluff]

Sorcerer build with frost claw / sparks https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B52gd0vo

[silk pewter]

Sorcerer, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (60) / Runemaster (33)

General:

▸ Health: 1,146, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 247, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 440%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 15 Str / 0 Dex / 91 Int / 0 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 52% / 83% / 73% / 73% / 61% / 75%
▸ EHP: 1,768 / 1,437 / 1,768 / 1,885 / 1,595 / 1,434 / 1,627

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 229
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,057)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Frost Claw (26)
• Flame Ward (22)
• Meteor (21)
• Lightning Blast (22)
• Teleport (20)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Static Shell
• Dragorath's Claw
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• The Invoker's Static Touch
• The Invoker's Static Touch
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[sturdy summit]

you've been trying to decide what to play for days, dude. Just start playing, you should be level 50 by now already.

don't worry about 2000 corruption when you haven't even picked your mastery yet

[stiff crown]

End game depends on the build. Generally 2000+ is for way overtuned builds. I believe the average corruption for a balanced build should be around 800 (might be wrong)

[steady folio]

Haha i agree, i spend too much time at work, haven’t been online yet just watching videos on breaks

[sturdy summit]

if you want to do 2000 corruption, you're going to be better off picking runemaster

and you can figure the rest out from there

[steady folio]

Gonna hop on tonight and try both sorc and runemaster then grab one and go

Thx

[sturdy summit]

good luck!

[hollow totem]

isn't fundamental criterion for hyrdra build?

[stiff crown]

Whoo, 1101 corruption

[sturdy summit]

grats!

[signal iron]

congrats!

[stiff crown]

Definitely getting a lot more T7s

[signal iron]

hows the clear speed difference up there?

[stiff crown]

Still good (depending on the mod)

I still skip some of the tankier mobs like the carrions

[signal iron]

II hate carrions 😭 the flame spear guys too are way too tanky as well imo

[sturdy summit]

the flame spear guys are frustrating. not much time to get out of their aoe, and it's a bit hard to see

[stiff crown]

The walking energy vessels are bad too

[sturdy summit]

the ones I hate the most are the artillery plants that drop poison puddles on you from 2 screens away. Have no idea where they're shooting from most of the time.

[signal iron]

those ones are so dumb, honestly I think that might be the worst mob in the game

cant even loot in peace even if you cleared your entire screen

[sturdy summit]

that's why I hate spire objectives, too. Stop to loot, randomly die while trying to click on an item :p

[stiff crown]

Happens to all of us, lol

The axe throwers can be dangerous too if you teleport into 40 of them

[crimson raft]

Those DoT spires are the worst.

I would have liked to seen number of spire artillery death in the kill stats

[cold sand]

tbh I on't think they are that high

it's not that hard to avoid them, I very rarely get hit by them

they are just annoying

I think like, the entire time since I've played this game I've been hit by a spire like twice? each time while looting

[sturdy summit]

well, yeah. I never get hit by spires when fightning, because I'm constantly moving. I get hit by them when I need to take a pee, or loot something. Which is the reverse of how it should be.

[cold sand]

ya I agree, just I don't think they would have a lot of deaths so the stat wouldn't have been very interesting

I think my fav monos are just the ambush or boss kills. The others are boring IMO

dodging spires, or standing in a circle, or the slow trickle of enemies for the gates aren't very interesting

[sturdy summit]

I love getting ambushed. Especially when it gives you some other objective, and then changes to an ambush. I always feel "Awesome! I can finish early!"

my favorite boss kills are the ones in the sewers, because sometimes the boss you need to kill spawns right next to you.

[cold sand]

I think turning up the mob density and focusing more on objectives that encourage killing would be better

fck the spires

mob density is like, my 1 major complaint about the gameplay. Some maps are ok, others are devoid of enemies and it's like 1-2 on screen at a time

that's the one thing path of exile gets really right - you are fighting hordes upon hordes of enemies at a time

[sturdy summit]

I don't even bother fighting them when the mob density is low. Just run straight to the objective.

[cold sand]

The other complaint i have is that corruption takes too long to build. Non-empowered monos should be basically optional. But then each "cycle" for building corruption should be like +25 baseline + whatever you get as bonus and from boss kills.

Either that, or make corruption shared between monoliths by default, so I can progress all the monos at once instead of feeling forced to stick to 1 longer than I want too. Like, my character is about to hit lvl 96 and I still don't have all my correct blessings.. I'm not even talking good rolls, just the correct ones. I have like 250 on the current mono and it's not even the one I want to "farm", so as soon as I get this blessing I have to go start over in THAT mono..with 100 corruption again 😦

[sturdy summit]

I think the second option is better. Pushing corruption too fast would be bad for players who are struggling.

[cold sand]

overall I agree. Maybe for 2nd/3rd chars it gets bumped up to +25 per reset. But even then you have the option of lowering corruption whenever you want

so if you push to far you can just back it up a little bit

But overall it feels really bad to effectively "start over" everytime i need to go to a new monolith, like I'm basically going into my next monolith at nearly max level before I can even start my primary farm mono!

[soft elm]

Same problem, 400 on frost death for farmign frostbite and the rest about 200 but i think able to push 600 or better, take too long

[sturdy summit]

you -do- get a huge bonus when your corruption is lower than your max corruption, though

one oro kill, and it pushes me to the highest corruption I've got

or close to it

[cold sand]

it's not that big of a bonus at all

[sturdy summit]

it's enough to equalize the corruption after one oro kill. Maybe it doesn't scale if you're like 500 corruption behind, but fixing that would be the play, in that case.

[cold sand]

I'm only getting like +25 going from about 250 corruption to a +100

[sturdy summit]

well, buffing that would be the least disruptive solution, imo

[cold sand]

ya. Basically the only reason I haven't pushed corruption passed like 300 on any one character is because I basically finish my entire build before then

and it's like, ok, what's the point

[stiff crown]

If you make it too easy, players aren't going to feel rewarded. There's little sense of accomplishment. It shouldn't be too little, but I think this amount is fine. I'm still getting +35 corruption per reset as long as I don't die to Shades.

The catchup mechanic is pretty fast too. Just take like 3-4 resets for me to catch up, but I think they should already be caught up from the start

[sturdy summit]

^

[safe grail]

I was doing similar on my sorc but running fireclaw

Meteor interaction is so nice tho for mana management

[cold sand]

It just doesn't scale fast enough at all. Like I shouldn't be finishing my build before I can even effectively get to the mono I want to push/farm

[stiff crown]

To be fair, no one is truely "finished". There's always room for improvement

[cold sand]

this current char is such a good example, like I want to go push corruption but I'm lvl 96 and don't have the correct blessings yet. So I've just been getting those and each of the monos is at like 200-250 corruption. And that's JUST the combat ones, I completely ignored the others

Not even going for good rolls - JUST the right ones. I could be pushing 400+ corruption on this build as is but instead I'm basically facerolling through easy content over and over because each mono is individual and doesn't progress the others

[safe grail]

Tbh i feel like the blessings system should be overhauled a tad to where after you’ve done the normal monos then empowered, each time you complete a mono, you can select one from any mono, but itll be random rolled

And then maybe they make corruption affect the rolls some. Higher corruption = better roll on it

[sturdy summit]

are you sure corruption doesn't affect the rolls already? I'm surprised by that.

[cold sand]

Nah it doesn't it's just RNG

I just got my final correct combat blessing yay

now I get to go farm a new mono at 100 corruption 😭

[stiff crown]

It'll catch up fairly quick. I was at 800c the other week and was trying to upgrade my other blessings. I surpassed my highest mono in like 4 resets

[soft elm]

yeah, got 74% void res on 1st empowerade

[errant plank]

does anyone know the chance of gambling gamblers fallacy depending on Tier ?

[quick rose]

I am looking into starting a Runemaster but I know the prices are insanely inflated. Would I get some decent gear for a Frostclaw Runemaster for 100million gold?

[stiff crown]

I think 100m is fine. Just won't be any BiS stuff

[sturdy summit]

buy now, before the gold sellers increase the price by 10x again

[stiff crown]

Should get you upwards of 800c with the right build

There should be an affix that gives me autoloot on runes and glyphs, and have them put directly into my storage, lol. I'm lazy

[quick rose]

I just hate that i need to grind blessings and corruptions again lol

[sturdy summit]

Hoover's Belt of Holding

[safe grail]

Im still just trying to figure out how circle of fortune didnt also include some sort of gold making ability lmao

[sturdy summit]

it used to ;)

but really, why do you need gold for CoF?

just stash tabs

[safe grail]

You know what i mean lol

[sturdy summit]

honestly, I don't

I haven't finished my coffee yet

[stiff crown]

Arbor uses gold

[sturdy summit]

it's still hot

ohh, right

thank you

[unborn hamlet]

Arbor gold dumping my favorite

Spend 5m to get nothing

👍

[stiff crown]

Go with 3 friends. Get more chances of getting stuff you guys need since you should be able to trade right there, right?

[sturdy summit]

yep, grouping is great... when it works. Couldn't play on thursday game night because we were getting the "enemies won't die" bug again. We had to play deep rock galactic instead, it was pretty disappointing.

[stiff crown]

Would be good if they had more group content stuff. I liked being an aurabot in PoE

[full bluff]

Anyone got some links to mages playing 2k+ corruption?

[stiff crown]

Probably pip's

Need to search this chat

[full bluff]

Most I find on youtube are offline play or old videos, got a few from Macin, but looking for others

[sturdy summit]

wasn't that allie person making videos on 2000 corruption? or was that offline, too?

[stiff crown]

pip's the only person in this chat that is in the 2k club

[full bluff]

Video of allie looked like 250-300 corruption

[sturdy summit]

oh yeah, piplexi

[stiff crown]

You can check by the % increases item rarity/exp

Or the more health

and damage

[full bluff]

Or how fast / slow bosses die or if they can take hits or not. I have seen runemasters play 2k+ and they do not facetank everything 🙂

[crimson raft]

Quick google gives me this
https://youtu.be/fOT11G0fGHQ

[full bluff]

Unless they play offline, with modified gear

[full bluff]

Yeah Macin is good, only one I can find

[stiff crown]

I feel like that'll depend on active damage reduction buffs. But can't go wrong with looking at the mods

[sturdy summit]

well, pip is legit, but I don't know if he's a content creator

[crimson raft]

It just requires so much time and effort to get that far

Even if a build could do it...it's like do you really wanna 😛

[full bluff]

I got some days off, thinking about trying a push, but wanted to see some videos

[sturdy summit]

I'm sure that you don't get to 2000 corruption with build alone. Gotta be able to play at that level as well.

[full bluff]

Macin said he had to play really well on Shade, not get hit

[stiff crown]

Skill issue

[sturdy summit]

exactly

[full bluff]

I think he did part of the push in team with someone too, to speed it up

[sturdy summit]

people come in like "What build will get me to 2000 easily?!" and you have to deprogram them before you can even start helping them

[full bluff]

Youtubes fault I guess, with the big headlines

[surreal root]

Lightning blast works well at low corruption, uses the exact same gear

[crimson raft]

It's also an issue with theoretically unlimited difficulty scaling, and no like way of knowing what those numbers really MEAN until you get there

[thin drift]

I'm kinda using the average nova build. I have pretty much all gear from Ladle to the Twisted Heart. I'm just having mana issues trying to run it and I think my single target damage is really lacking. Since I play CoF, getting the right gear to slam on the uniques have been problematic. What build is the lightning blast one?

[full bluff]

My impression from videos and comments is that shade is the hard part and clearing echos is easy - just takes time.

[sturdy summit]

import your build into lastepochtools and link it here

[stiff crown]

I think the chances of you being hit during shades is close to 100%. I think it comes down to being able to tank unreactable hits and dodging one-shots. With more damage decreasing the fight duration. Eventually everyone peaks

[sturdy summit]

when shade teleports to you and tries to smash you with a crystal? That's when I really appreciate having teleport.

[stiff crown]

Yeah, I think at a certain corruption, your build needs to change because DR doesn't help if you get oneshot with it anyway. Like changing your build in D4 solely for uber Lilith

[full bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ2DTnH_YiI&t=86s

This one is nice

DR saves him a few times. But he avoids all 1 shots, no tanking stuff

[sturdy summit]

nice

does he have a kill vs oro with poison trail at that level?

[full bluff]

I think you can fish for one with attacks that you like

[sturdy summit]

oh, by leaving?

[full bluff]

I kind of like the poison one, can predict it

[edgy wave]

Epilogue skill node is broken for flame rush! It keeps getting stuck and refusing to proc, then i have to hard cast RE to reset my runes...very frustrating since I'm playing hydrahedron RM and flame rush is an extremely important part of my rotation. I want to keep progressing mt RM (74 right now) but this bug is literaslly making my entire build unplayable.

[full bluff]

Doesn't the fight stay the same for that echo?

Switch echo and another fight?

[sturdy summit]

is that how it works?

[full bluff]

Not sure, but it seems like the fight is different when I try another echo

and the same when I try the same one

[sturdy summit]

flame rush sucks, change to teleport and get a real mobility tool 🤣

[full bluff]

but hard to say, could just be random

[stiff crown]

It's because you don't have enough mana to proc it

[sturdy summit]

oh right, epilogue is the one that requires you to have enough mana. you can't take a loan

making it randomly spend mana in a different way than every other skill in the game was a bad design choice

[stiff crown]

I've joined the "level 101" club

[sturdy summit]

how much corruption do you need for that?

oh, so that's a display glitch?

sounds like they used a <= when they should have used a <

[stiff crown]

I imagine you can get "101" at any corruption, lol. Just goes back to 0% exp, but they should give you a Steam achievement at least D:<

[sturdy summit]

add that one to the list of snarky steam achievements we need when they finally add those :p

[steady folio]

Anyone mind explaining what happens at higher corruption with the loot? Like does it increase the quantity of drops or quality or both or are there only certain items that drop at higher corruption.

Or is it more just to see how far you can climb the ladder

[stiff crown]

It feels like I get more uniques and more exalted T7s than before

Anecdotal though

[steady folio]

Ok cool what corruption lvl

[stiff crown]

1133, I think

[edgy wave]

not possible when i tested it at full mana. the problem started immediately on patching to 1.0.4

[stiff crown]

Can you give more details on your setup?

[edgy wave]

i would if flame rush wasnt crucial to the build for the rotation. i have to rush through ice wall for buffs, it grants me buffs, and it procs invocations...can tele do that?

[edgy wave]

what do you need to know? I tested it at full mana. that was your objecrtion. I sent data to devs. and filed a bug report.

[quick rose]

What is generally looked upon as the strongest Runemaster build atm?

[stiff crown]

I run Epilogue and the only time it doesn't activate is when I'm low on mana

Okay

[sturdy summit]

no, tele can do something better: save you from getting killed by getting out of mechanics.

[safe grail]

Skill Issue
Git Guud
L
Ratio

anyway

[stiff crown]

I was gonna test with your setup, but aight. Moving on

[safe grail]

based kurii

[stiff crown]

🫡

[edgy wave]

I mean do you want the entire skill, passive and gear setup? or what? what piece of data do you need?

[sturdy summit]

import your build into lastepochtools and link it, yes, the entire setup.

takes 10 seconds

[safe grail]

he's used to 10 seconds being a long time being a honda boi

😮

[edgy wave]

you guys are acting like this game hasnt had multiple bugs that completely run/ make certain skill umplayable. @stiff crown Kurii I'll gladly send you the data via PM later when I get the time. I'm about to leave to spend time with my family. I was actually trying to get help and neede to know what you were midding. some people are just jerks i guess? i can send you a PM if you actually want to help

and i mean pre and post launch on skill breaking bugs

[stiff crown]

No need to send me anything. I've already found the issue.

[barren pawn]

Homie you couldve just imported your character to letools isntead of taking 5 minutes to type that

[edgy wave]

what is it?

[stiff crown]

Skill issue

[safe grail]

inb4skillissue

HAH

[sturdy summit]

🤣

[safe grail]

the massive jebait

[barren pawn]

Literally all they wanted was your letools

[edgy wave]

cool thanks guys. glad to see the community so willing to help someone learn the game. I didn't know about importing data and sharing it. is it just assumed that everyone should know every detail about this game? or should i just assume that everyone is just going to be a jerk?

[sturdy summit]

I tried to tell you

[edgy wave]

after i already got yanked around? thanks dude

reekl clutch

then the ridicule about my car having something to do with the game? nice. rel classy

[sturdy summit]

hondas are clutch

no hate

10 seconds taking a long time means they're fast

[safe grail]

Idk how you came in here and made a statement about the bug, not asking questions, a conversation was created surrounding your statement, but we aren’t helping you

You never asked a question in the first place lmao

You came in complaining and that was about it

So ya im gonna make fun of hondas unless it’s a kswap

[neon lynx]

How’s someone gonna have daddy in their name then act like a btch?

[safe grail]

LMAO

[quick rose]

I am trying to wrap my head around what build I should aim for - I see there is an Frostbite RM and Frostclaw build on Maxroll. But I also saw Preheet got a Frostclaw build with totally different gear. What do you guys reccomend?

[stiff crown]

💀

[safe grail]

Idk if i was trying to get help I’d format my statement to be interrogative in nature.

[sturdy summit]

recommend not using maxroll, but frostbite is a good starter build. Am I correct in understanding you're like, below level 20?

[quick rose]

Yeah I am level 0

[rough cypress]

if I use the gloves that convert half of fireball to lightning and take the passive node tree that does similarly, do I get a 100% lightning fireball?

[stiff crown]

I thought I was cordial. I tried to help by asking for more info to see if it was actually a bug. 🐸

[safe grail]

Preheet isnt using any real different items than 98% of the clawnova builds thankfully

[quick rose]

I just wanted to plan ahead and keep gear farmed on my Marksman

[safe grail]

Yea

[sturdy summit]

the one thing you have to decide and can't change is your subclass. Runemaster is the safest choice, and has the most community support, but you could play the other subclasses if you really want. It will simply be a bit harder. Frost claw is the best spell in mage's arsenal, more or less. Build around that however you like and you'll be good.

[safe grail]

Nah sorc master race soon enough

Runic invo is overrated

🙂

[sturdy summit]

I'll start recommending it when you prove it, ex ;)

[quick rose]

Allright. I got most of the items needed from Preehets build in LP 2

[rough cypress]

does it then lose the fire tag?

I would assume not

[safe grail]

Uh

The gloves dont explicitly say you gain a lightning tag

Only the skill node does

[sturdy summit]

every guide ought to have an explanation of the difference between scaling tags and damage types

it's one of the most confusing parts of the game

[neon lynx]

This dudes a radart jr huh?

[safe grail]

Fireball doesnt have any guides really lol

[safe grail]

He was saying that strictly cause of rad i believe lmao

Top tier banter tbch

[sturdy summit]

:nodders:

[shell fern]

as long as you can have perma reowyns frostguard, rm will always be better than sorc.

most rms ignore lightning aegis, which i don't understand why

[barren pawn]

uhh

[whole wolf]

should i risk the +4 frostclaw relic i got on a 1LP twisted heart, or keep grinding for a 2LP minimum

[barren pawn]

Sorc has much more interesting interactinos with nodes and skils than RM

You can abuse sorc to have so much mana sustain that its nutty....

[sturdy summit]

don't smash what you can't afford to lose. If you feel like you can mentally handle the loss of that relic if it fails, take your shot

[shell fern]

that might be true but sorc is still quite garbo compared to rm

[barren pawn]

if they ahdnt nerfed powerleveling, id level a new one

[sturdy summit]

also, do you have a Rune of Creation? make a copy. +4 FC is what those runes are for.

[whole wolf]

yup yup, already done, just thinking if i land it first try i can sell the copy, im just on the fence about it, whatd you do?