BURN THE WORLD
#🧙┃mage
barren pawn
barren pawn
CHAOS
safe grail
lol
hearty cypress
stakcs of shock lol
sturdy summit
electrify is the lightning dot
barren pawn
BURN THE WORLD
.
hearty cypress
since when are u struggling to stack shock
safe grail
shock doesnt apply electrify
viscid laurel
Any damage a skill gains is influenced by the damage modifiers of that skill as long as it's not logically excluded. eg. "20% more hit damage" in the skill tree wouldn't apply to ignites the skill inflicts, but "20% more damage" would. Attribute scaling is no different.
hearty cypress
xD
safe grail
shock applies shred and increases chance to stun
twilit stag
Very curious then. If you're applying Ailments with disintegrate, which is affected by ignivars head to scale with crit chance, then those ailments scale with crit chance too?
viscid laurel
The only thing that doesn't inherit is if it's a different skill it's triggering.
safe grail
Any damage a skill gains is influenced by the damage modifiers of that skill as ...
good nugget of knowledge. thanks
barren pawn
Very curious then. If you're applying Ailments with disintegrate, which is affec...
G R E A T Q U E S T I O N
barren pawn
The only thing that doesn't inherit is if it's a different skill it's triggering...
Can ya confirm or deny what 10 just said?
sturdy summit
Any damage a skill gains is influenced by the damage modifiers of that skill as ...
I think what confused me is that there's a tooltip that says that dot damage is not increased by the damage of the skill that deals it. I see now that it means something different, but I took that to mean that there were no inherited stats.
safe grail
"GUYS COMBUST IM ROLLING IGNITE"
barren pawn
and now we have WoW Ignite stacking
oh gooooddd yessssss
viscid laurel
Very curious then. If you're applying Ailments with disintegrate, which is affec...
hmmmm, this should be true, but I'm not positive off the top of my head. would need to be tested. Unqiues can be a bit different in their interaction, but the wording suggests it should yes.
sturdy summit
not a tooltip, I mean a loading screen tip
safe grail
hmmmm, this should be true, but I'm not positive off the top of my head. would n...
holy WHAT
lmao
barren pawn
HAHAHAAHAHHAHA
twilit stag
HAHAHAAHAHHAHA
Full ignite stacks let's goooo
dusty steppe
Overall ignite frost claw runemaster feels good, but i totally need better weapon than 0LP firestarter torch lol
sturdy summit
HAHAHAAHAHHAHA
hah, your disintegrate build getting legs? :D
barren pawn
Homie my disintegrate build has HAD legs
twilit stag
Kain, very much appreciate your willingness to chime in! Much thanks
safe grail
Yeah sorry again for the tag lol
viscid laurel
I think what confused me is that there's a tooltip that says that dot damage is ...
Where do you see this tooltip? It might be a specific case scenario?
barren pawn
Everything is always your idea isnt it....
barren pawn
Self important much ?
sturdy summit
Where do you see this tooltip? It might be a specific case scenario?
in the loading screen. I forgot the wording, but I bet it's trying to say that if you, say, crit on a skill, it doesn't cause the base damage of the dots applied to increase.
viscid laurel
hearty cypress
whast that reply to LMAO
viscid laurel
in the loading screen. I forgot the wording, but I bet it's trying to say that i...
Ah, yes. Dots cannot benefit from crits - dots aren't based on the damage actually dealt by a skill, but they do inheret modifiers.
safe grail
my fireball which has 344% increased dmg
barren pawn
I like how he thinks me saying self important much was in rsponse to him saying hes very important lmao...
safe grail
if it applies ignite
barren pawn
anyways
safe grail
it'll also benefit from things like increased ele dmg from the sorc passive tree
barren pawn
ignite scaling with my spell crit is something i had a sneaking suspicion of, but never bothered confirming
since its such a small number amyways
viscid laurel
it'll also benefit from things like increased ele dmg from the sorc passive tree
this is correct, yes.
barren pawn
Anyways, let's see your ignites ticking for 30k damage now
im not on flame dis rn
safe grail
this is correct, yes.
and realistically, each projectile can also add a stack of ignite too
O_O
sturdy summit
Ah, yes. Dots cannot benefit from crits - dots aren't based on the damage actual...
they don't inherit the spell tag to scale with increased spell damage if cast by a spell. How does the spell tag differ from the intelligence tag in this scenario?
viscid laurel
Each projectile can add many stacks of ignite.
safe grail
Stun-ignite Fireball sorc INC
twilit stag
since its such a small number amyways
Well 1500% increased ignite stack damage suddenly makes ignite viable
safe grail
BEEEEEAREEEEEEEEEEEEBEEEEEEEEEEEEE
viscid laurel
If you have more than 100% ignite chance, it can apply additional stacks. 150% chance would apply 1 stack, and a 50% chance of a second stack. Many ailment builds will hit 700%~
barren pawn
Well 1500% increased ignite stack damage suddenly makes ignite viable
i mean i was running ignite when i had 2k spell crit.
they werent ticking for more than like...
600
crimson valve
do you guys know if SPELL damage leech applies to ignite?
viscid laurel
no, ignite is not a spell
crimson valve
thanks Kain
barren pawn
@twilit stag SPELL crit scaling
so in other weords
ignite doesnt benefit
cause its not a spel
crimson valve
immolator's can give spell dmg to fire skills
isn't that supposed to be "up to 40" referred to spell damage and not stacks
240 seems too much
twilit stag
<@810269660859334710> SPELL crit scaling
I mean Kain just confirmed that in theory it should work
winter crow
https://gyazo.com/0ad046807c6e8b1c391dd56dfc1317d3 did another 2lp gamba, hit both suffixes lol
twilit stag
Though in practice maybe not
winter crow
4th 2lp fail so far
barren pawn
I mean Kain just confirmed that in theory it should work
he also just said ignite isnt a spell, and doesnt gain SPELL tagged bonuses
SPELL crit being one
so my ingvars scaling wont affect the ignite.
viscid laurel
If you're referring to ingvar, it should work because the unique effect is granting disintegrate more damage. It's not about the ignite inheriting the crit. it's inheriting the more damage given to disintegrate from ingvar's
safe grail
LOLLLLLLLL
hollow arrow
went to eat and came back to y'all blowing up chat
hollow arrow
gahdamn
twilit stag
Reading comprehension 💕
barren pawn
un moment por favor
safe grail
went to eat and came back to y'all blowing up chat
well we got a good nugget of info
hollow arrow
what nugget
and can we get healing hands to work on per hit for warpath so i can have a busted warpath build kain? lmao
sturdy summit
dots inherit attribute scaling from the ability that applies them, like int
crimson valve
viscid laurel
and can we get healing hands to work on per hit for warpath so i can have a bust...
HA. no.
twilit stag
Personally doesnt feel like its workinbg that way
Easiest way to test is check your ignite tics with it on and with it off
quick loom
and can we get healing hands to work on per hit for warpath so i can have a bust...
😆 gl with that
viscid laurel
We've certainly discussed options to combine healing hands with warpath, but on hit would be way, way, way too OP, haha.
sturdy summit
you're lucky i cant use my custom emotes here
emote limitations working as intended 🤣
safe grail
time to make dinner
hollow arrow
emote limitations working as intended 🤣
ill beat you like a redheaded stepchild
honestly though, would be nice to have a ward warpath build that actualy does dmg lmao
sturdy summit
wardpath
hollow arrow
gotta sacrifice too much dmg for LL build
hearty cypress
We've certainly discussed options to combine healing hands with warpath, but on ...
do you feel like the ward stackign that RM has atm is balanced or intended
crimson valve
do you feel like the ward stackign that RM has atm is balanced or intended
shhh
hollow arrow
👀
hearty cypress
compared to like, sorc which has been going through some changes overtime
twilit stag
While we're doing the impromptu ask the devs (lol) is there any rhyme or reason to what nodes in a skill tree are overriden by uniques?
Abacus wand overrides some, but not other, nodes in rune bolt in a way that I can't figure out the rhyme or reason too
viscid laurel
balanced and intended are two different things
barren pawn
Easiest way to test is check your ignite tics with it on and with it off
already on it
hollow arrow
intended until they balance it
hearty cypress
i just want your thoughts
barren pawn
96 per tick without
twilit stag
Make sure you only apply a single stack
hearty cypress
cause im looking at sorc and its abit underwhelminmg coming into 1.0 not really seeing stuff thats actually for native sorc stuff
barren pawn
O.o
willow willow
We've certainly discussed options to combine healing hands with warpath, but on ...
Hi! I know this is not exactly a question related to Mage but since a dev is here.. Is there a way for my Lich's hp to not drain while being in the monolith "zone"? like it's a bit annoying when I tp back from an echo, browsing thru stuff in my storage and just die from the health drain from the Lich's passive hp drain nodes.
hearty cypress
like yea ladle is good
barren pawn
10k ticks
winter crow
Yeah it feeels like some stuff is def underperforming rn, like fireball for example
viscid laurel
I think it's too large of a topic for me to really jump into, as it goes into ward itself, not just runemaster. But we certainly don't have a blind ear to it, we are discussing it.
barren pawn
7k ticks off one stack staf
twilit stag
Much appreciated, and understandable!
hollow arrow
appreciate the info though honestly kain
thanks for the help
i'll be waiting for the good wardpath changes
winter crow
yeah, balancing must be hard considering the amount of options and interactions possible
twilit stag
The biggest thing is that it prevents tribolt from even working 😥
sturdy summit
Hi! I know this is not exactly a question related to Mage but since a dev is her...
guessilljustdie.jpg
crimson valve
wassup guys give it up for Kain being one of the people!! ❤️
viscid laurel
Hi! I know this is not exactly a question related to Mage but since a dev is her...
That shouldn't be possible as it costs % of current HP. Aura of decay would do it, but you can disable it while in Echo of a World
twilit stag
10k ticks
Yea so just stack chance to ignite for way more damage than anything else lol
barren pawn
20k ticks
viscid laurel
Please test it first, i'm not promising it will work, Ingvar's could potentially be coded only to work with disintegrate's direct damage due to how the beams work. It should by wording, but no promises, haha.
willow willow
That shouldn't be possible as it costs % of current HP. Aura of decay would do i...
let me double check because my build didn't have Aura of Decay, and dying while browsing thru stuff in my storage happened so many times I just stopped playing my Lich
twilit stag
guess there will be new builds with DoT now
Dots are already so dang small that scaling doesn't really affect them in a meaningful way to do us a build around
barren pawn
im gonna need a wand with chance to ignite
hollow arrow
True but i still feel like this opens a page for y'all to experiment on
next lance
I would just make ward a shrine buff with 20k that decays slowly as you fight
barren pawn
3lp ladle...
twilit stag
Kain, Kyo just confirmed it. 96 damage per tick got bumped to 7k damage per tick with the insane scaling kyo has
crimson valve
im gonna need a wand with chance to ignite
Firestarter torch ❤️
barren pawn
Kain, Kyo just confirmed it. 96 damage per tick got bumped to 7k damage per tick...
20k*
hollow arrow
Yeah that one
crimson valve
get a 3LP one for 0g
barren pawn
20k with multiple stacks
sturdy summit
guess there will be new builds with DoT now
First Law of Documentation: it dosen't matter what the docs say if the code says something else.
barren pawn
First Law of Documentation: it dosen't matter what the docs say if the code says...
*** T H I S***
hollow arrow
Thats why kain said to try it though, so we can document it
twilit stag
It's not crazy to get a couple hundred stacks of ignite when you're really trying
hollow arrow
thus kyo testing is for us to document
safe grail
First Law of Documentation: it dosen't matter what the docs say if the code says...
True and real
hollow arrow
so the more int, the more scaling for dot?
twilit stag
thus kyo testing is for us to document
He just did and it works
twilit stag
so the more int, the more scaling for dot?
At the very very low percent it scales at, yes
viscid laurel
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
twilit stag
😂
hollow arrow
lmao
crimson valve
so the more int, the more scaling for dot?
if with Dot u mean ailments i think intelligence doesn't scale them
hollow arrow
so how high is kyos scaling atm
twilit stag
1600%
hollow arrow
thats a good jump for ticks
sturdy summit
if with Dot u mean ailments i think intelligence doesn't scale them
that's what we all thought too, but we just learned differently.
hollow arrow
nah im good, im just curious bout the info
barren pawn
main build is 2100 😂
hollow arrow
i'll stick with my rm for now
crimson valve
that's what we all thought too, but we just learned differently.
wait INT scales like ignite, poison and stuff??
i might have skipped that part of the conversation
twilit stag
Only if the skill that applies it also scales with int
sturdy summit
wait INT scales like ignite, poison and stuff??
if you apply them with a skill that scales with int, the ailment scales with int
hollow arrow
hmmm
crimson valve
if you apply them with a skill that scales with int, the ailment scales with int
holy damn
hollow arrow
so we comb through each skill that has ailments but scales with int
twilit stag
That's going to be the biggest thing that people don't pay attention to when trying to use this info lol
crimson valve
but this INT scaling DOTS doesn't appear on the ignite damage in the character sheet tho
because it's skill-related?
sturdy summit
that's correct, because it's a conditional modifier, and the character sheet only shows global modifiers
twilit stag
so we comb through each skill that has ailments but scales with int
What you really need is a skill that scales with all kinds of things, and stack all of them
crimson valve
kk
hollow arrow
yup it's hidden stats
crimson valve
damn that's good news. My ignite runemaster is happy
twilit stag
Lmfao
viscid laurel
because it's skill-related?
Yes, it's not causing ignite to scale with int. rather the ailment is inheriting damage modifiers from the skill that inflicted it.
sturdy summit
but it only inherits the int modifiers, not the increased spell damage modifier. what makes those different is still confusing me.
crimson valve
Yes, it's not causing ignite to scale with int. rather the ailment is inheriting...
ok is it inheriting what modifiers exactly? like the tags of the skill or also certain skill-nodes?
viscid laurel
but it only inherits the int modifiers, not the increased spell damage modifier....
technically it does inherit this as well, it just doesn't benefit from it because it's not a spell.
hollow arrow
Hmm you can get ignite warpath, if that ends up scaling
inc high int paladins
lmao
barren pawn
inc high int paladins
Thematically this works great.
hasty roost
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
sturdy summit
technically it does inherit this as well, it just doesn't benefit from it becaus...
oh! okay, I'm starting to understand now!
safe grail
Man I can’t wait to yeet 7 fireballs and apply like 3 stacks a piece that tick like 500k
Gonna be v enjoyable lmao
hearty cypress
if i wear 2 ocearon, thats 20% mroe damage to shocked yea?
viscid laurel
Example of fun inheritance of stats to skills:
You have 100% increased minion damage
You summon Primal Scorpion
Primal Scorpion has 100% Increased damage
Primal Scorpion summons Baby Scorpions
The Baby Scorpions have 200% increased damage
- They have 100% increased damage from the inherited damage of the Primal Scorpion, but the Primal Scorpion also inherited the stat "100% increased minion damage", so its minions, baby scorpions gain 100% increased damage from it.
hollow arrow
sadly warpath only scales from melee/considered element of choice
no stats for that
riot
barren pawn
SO THATS WHY MINIONS ARE SO STRONG
hollow arrow
christ
barren pawn
IT ALL MAKE SENSE
hollow arrow
so a summon that summons is busted
viscid laurel
Well no, extremely few minions summon their own minions.
hollow arrow
all in summon dmg/hp build lets go
sturdy summit
I would like a gun that shoots more guns :D
hollow arrow
nah but that inheritance setup is pretty interesting
quick loom
no stats for that
Wdym? Flat dmg, ele dmg, chance to ignite etc
hollow arrow
Wdym? Flat dmg, ele dmg, chance to ignite etc
meant attribute
quick loom
Ahh. Maybe there is a unique with some fun scaling. 🤷♂️
quick loom
Ask in sent channel lol
hollow arrow
well i take that back, warpath does scale from str
hollow arrow
but you need too much put into hp/armor for survivability
even with all str warpath still wont kill fast enough to live through one hit
lmao
but yeah, this new info will be pretty fun
quick loom
Stack armour and add ele taken as phys mods. Plus a bunch of leech
hollow arrow
just need a wardpath build lmao
hearty cypress
instead of leech u can just get leech rate
leech rate is really good if youre doing a lot of damage already
2 siphon legit just never get my health below 80% vs boss
quick loom
just need a wardpath build lmao
Lol
hollow arrow
provided you could get that minion dmg/hp on everything lmao
safe grail
I think the biggest thing i took away from this all is that putting int into a build where an ailment dot is applied by a skill is just POG
full lynx
are we not allowed to post images in here?
safe grail
No
safe grail
Like for this build i wanna do, i’d love to just str8 avoid dmg over time stats lol
full lynx
im just trying to get a good lightning build goin
hollow arrow
baby scorpion spawns more, and more atk for another node on scorps
oof yeah
could have fun with that
i still want a wardpath build lmao
crimson valve
I think the biggest thing i took away from this all is that putting int into a b...
my ignite frostclaw
hollow arrow
will be fun to see what ideas you get going ex
need a test server so we can try all these combos
safe grail
I wonder if it would just straight be better to stack like
On a wep, ele dmg instead of dot dmg
hollow arrow
we need an actual dps calc on the dummies
crimson valve
On a wep, ele dmg instead of dot dmg
mmm
sturdy summit
Like for this build i wanna do, i’d love to just str8 avoid dmg over time stats ...
stack int for dot damage?
safe grail
Yeah stack int and like ele dmg @sturdy summit
sturdy summit
spell damage won't work for dots, though
are you trying to do tri-elemental damage?
safe grail
Ah true youre right
hollow arrow
what if the skill says spell tho, wouldn't it count?
sturdy summit
if it's a spell dot, not an ailment dot, that counts
hollow arrow
ahhhhhhh gotcha
sturdy summit
like glyph of dominion
safe grail
or disintegrate
Dis would scale its ailment dots because it itself is a dot
So spell dmg would apply
hollow arrow
im actually curious what they wanna change on next cycle now lmao
sturdy summit
spell damage would apply to disintegrate, and then the ailment dots would inherit the spell damage but do nothing with it, because they're not spells.
hearty cypress
unfortunately disintegrate is just not gonna clear faster for me
but im happy to see it working
barren pawn
im actually curious what they wanna change on next cycle now lmao
WELL WE ALREADY KNOW DISINTEGRATES GETTING SHAFTED
caps
hollow arrow
lmao
safe grail
Essentially i am thinking of doing fireball w/ multiple projectiles that all apply stacks of ignite
barren pawn
So hopefully what they do to let it stand on its own, makes it way better
barren pawn
kains wording amde it seem like they are gonna make it stronk asf
sturdy summit
and the idea is to use ele damage because you want to do multiple elements?
safe grail
Precisely
So frostbite and ignite
Have fireball apply them
Essentially…frostfire ball
Lol
sturdy summit
what's the benefit of using two ailments rather than applying twice as many of one?
hearty cypress
i just want volcanic orb to be good bro
sturdy summit
i just want volcanic orb to be good bro
I want voidcanic orb to be good.
hollow arrow
oof looking at fireball now
safe grail
I’d only be picking up frostbite through a talent methinks
hollow arrow
spreading inferno
twilit stag
what's the benefit of using two ailments rather than applying twice as many of o...
Enemies may resist your only damage. Not a great reason though
safe grail
But if it scales with it why not just improve it further
sturdy summit
Enemies may resist your only damage. Not a great reason though
I got over 300% cold pen with frostbite, what's a resist? 🤣
safe grail
Unless the node im thinking of only applies on cold spells
sturdy summit
a lot of the frostbite stuff I can think of specifies cold spells
safe grail
Also how does the node “fire skill ignite chance” apply? It just adds +% to the skill?
crimson valve
Also how does the node “fire skill ignite chance” apply? It just adds +% to the ...
it applies ignite chance to skills with fire tag
hollow arrow
quite a few fire uniques lmao
crimson valve
basically x)
hollow arrow
cindersong would be good
sturdy summit
Kinda weird way of saying +ignite chance lol
probably to make it clear that it's triggering off of fire tags rather than fire damage type
safe grail
Word
sturdy summit
fire being both a tag and a damage type, and that those aren't the same thing, is a part of the game I think confuses a lot of people. I know it's taken me constant effort to disentangle the two.
inner tinsel
Guys can shade of orobyss be cc’ed?
sturdy summit
Guys can shade of orobyss be cc’ed?
pretty sure I can freeze him, although it becomes much harder as I push corruption.
since freeze chance inverse scales with hp
crimson valve
Guys can shade of orobyss be cc’ed?
there was a video before 1.0 of a guy using the frostclaw node that buffs the freeze from that mage basic ability that i can't recall, it was perma-freezing bosses
the ice wind ability that you unlock early levels that freezes enemy
chrome crater
Snap Freeze
hearty cypress
freezing boss is not hard it just depends on which corruption youre doing it on
crimson valve
yeah
hearty cypress
btu its also like, hard to even put value to it
yea youre freeizng it, but do you really need to?
sturdy summit
there was a video before 1.0 of a guy using the frostclaw node that buffs the fr...
I was regularly keeping bosses frozen at 100% corruption. They'd only get to move every once in a while. It's a lot harder to do that now at 250 corruption
errant plank
fk me
hearty cypress
if you can already tank it, would it be any different to actually freezing it?
errant plank
just got killed by soufire boss in T2
i had like 2k souls
im level 80 and it was T2
how bad it feels
im so bad 😒
crimson valve
if you can already tank it, would it be any different to actually freezing it?
well perma freezing a boss makes it unnecessary to tank it. so theoretically u can avoid building a lot of stats. also there are skills that do more damage to frozen but not many i recall
crimson valve
im level 80 and it was T2
dayum how did that happen bruv
hearty cypress
yea but in the context of rm and whatever, youre most likely already be tanking it
inner tinsel
pretty sure I can freeze him, although it becomes much harder as I push corrupti...
I’m asking because after 1200c, shade is a bit hard for me to kill using frost claw, the skill animation pretty much blocks his every telegraph
errant plank
dayum how did that happen bruv
first i didnt max necro rez
hearty cypress
unless ur playing a build that actually doesnt tank
inner tinsel
Thinking switch to frostbite frost claw
hearty cypress
which is hard to imagine
errant plank
second bad reaction instead of swapping sheild i trie to tp to fire zone
hearty cypress
in the current day's context of rm's
crimson valve
yea but in the context of rm and whatever, youre most likely already be tanking ...
true
crimson valve
second bad reaction instead of swapping sheild i trie to tp to fire zone
loool performance anxiety kicks in
hearty cypress
when i think of frostbite, its only good because youre essentially denying armor
errant plank
loool performance anxiety kicks in
definately
hearty cypress
liek the idea of dot itself scaling harder than hit damage is good yes
but i dont value freezing at all
errant plank
ive a second key hopefully but meeee
crimson valve
cremorous is one of the bosses with more different attacks, if not the first one i think
errant plank
are all my souls lost or ill have it for later buy ?
crimson valve
are all my souls lost or ill have it for later buy ?
before 1.0 u would lose it. but i've noticed that I kept them after death/not spening it. don't know if it was patched or intended
errant plank
before 1.0 u would lose it. but i've noticed that I kept them after death/not sp...
if not spending you keep... are you sure about when you die ?
hollow arrow
yeah you still keep it
errant plank
ha good
crimson valve
if not spending you keep... are you sure about when you die ?
yeah it definitely happend to me. don't know if it's intended, it wasn't like this before
safe grail
Tbh the way i see this whole thing is that it opens up the possibility of still scaling hit dmg while scaling dot dmg
KINDA DANK BOUS
silk pewterBOT
crimson valve
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJzlJLbQ
they good for t2. u generating ward too?
errant plank
they good for t2. u generating ward too?
with flameward and tp yes, but no flat thing
crimson valve
with flameward and tp yes, but no flat thing
ok then u have to time those 2 skills good. but t2 is definitely doable with those
crimson valve
ill retry then
oh. u could put some points into runic fortress O.O passive
royal gull
What I've learned so far is Frost Nova and Glacier are pretty fun even before a Mastery
errant plank
oh. u could put some points into runic fortress O.O passive
what is that ?
crimson valve
since i guess armor is big defensive layer for me
ye, it also gives u a little ward boost
hearty cypress
the cheap soluition is to get ferebor
errant plank
obviously yeah, i need to find 5 points....
hearty cypress
and use static shell
royal gull
Will Fire Glyph cast a Frost Nova if I've converted Magma Orb to Frozen Orb?
Also, does that Nova use your talents from the Nova tree?
errant plank
ye, it also gives u a little ward boost
Actually i dont use runic evoc so i dont have the armor bonus sine no runes right ?
crimson valve
ah damn yeah
errant plank
lets roll, will let you know 😄
crimson valve
u got this
crimson valve
t2 u can kinda rush it yeah
soulfire is not really rush friendly but i think u can try ez
whole gazelle
What twink items should I grab for my alt RM lvling through campaign?
royal gull
How much Freeze Rate Multiplier is enough? Like if I go 5/5 Rune of Winter is that enough, or do I need more?
crimson valve
What twink items should I grab for my alt RM lvling through campaign?
firestarter torch is crazy
sturdy summit
How much Freeze Rate Multiplier is enough? Like if I go 5/5 Rune of Winter is th...
are you doing frostbite or crit?
royal gull
Crit probably
errant plank
i guess i typed on d without noticing....
royal gull
Haven't decided Runemaster or Sorc yet, but thinking Frozen Orb leans more towards Runemaster?
sturdy summit
How much Freeze Rate Multiplier is enough? Like if I go 5/5 Rune of Winter is th...
if you want to reliably keep freezing things, you'll want to keep stacking freeze rate multiplier. If you go frostbite, this stat gives you more damage (cold pen with frostbite), but if you go crit, it's hard to stack a lot of FRM
crimson valve
i guess i typed on d without noticing....
x)) condolences
errant plank
happens 🙂
royal gull
if you want to reliably keep freezing things, you'll want to keep stacking freez...
So the short version is more freeze rate multi is never a waste?
royal gull
I just have no idea if it has a cap or what
errant plank
at start yeah
then i almost died because overwhelmed
so i slowed down
but here i got a CC and i thnk fire killed me
whereas i was thinking i was ok in fire
or maybe i just got crit
anyway
ill improve my build and skills
sturdy summit
So the short version is more freeze rate multi is never a waste?
yes, if you're using cold damage, it's not a waste, but it competes against your damage stats unless you're frostbite.
errant plank
died twice because bad at moving casting etc 🙂
royal gull
Is the conversion to pen just an automatic interaction or does that require investment?
I don't actually know which skills are Frostbite besides Glacier w/ the left branch
sturdy summit
Is the conversion to pen just an automatic interaction or does that require inve...
it's from Snowdrift boots unique modifier
royal gull
Ahhh ok a unique, nice, good to know thanks 🙂
One thing I'm seeing is that Sorc seems to favor multi-element builds? The Dragon talents at the end, etc...
So if you just want to focus on Cold then is Runemaster better?
Or is single element not really encouraged period?
crimson valve
ill improve my build and skills
yeah I never rush soulfire, because of that exact reason. U don't see one of those heavy fire/necrotic attacks, and u have the wrong shield on, you just die. at most you can gather some mob packs and then kill them and move on. good luck next
royal gull
Arcane Wind seems kind of useless, Chill every 5 seconds? Like what would the interaction be that makes that worth 3 points?
sturdy summit
can't say about sorc, but runemaster has a variety of both 1-element and multi-element builds. just in general, you're going to find more success with a single element becuase you can focus your stats better.
safe grail
you can play 1 element as sorc
crimson valve
Arcane Wind seems kind of useless, Chill every 5 seconds? Like what would the in...
if u really want to chill and take it easy I guess..
royal gull
I wish we could react to each others' messages 😛 🙂
crimson valve
I wish we could react to each others' messages 😛 🙂
❤️
royal gull
I guess I'm a bit torn then, but it seems like Orb would work in Sorc since it has a huge up front mana cost
sick falcon
which resistances are the most important, or are they all pretty evenly spread ?
jovial jewel
Physical #1, then it depends on the area you're in. Lightning and cold before fighting Lagon etc.
royal gull
Having actually used Frozen Orb I'm kind of wondering if I should just go Ice Barrage instead 😛
errant plank
yeah I never rush soulfire, because of that exact reason. U don't see one of tho...
thanks!
crystal nebula
how shld I be thinking about setting a filter for the purple items? feel like such a range of stuff on them
hollow arrow
wooo time to install dragons dogma 2
royal gull
Lament of Lost Refuge seems pretty weird
What else can a Mage do to scale Void type damage with melee??
.. why is Frey's Retreat inherent +spell crit when every damage stat on it is over time? 😛
hollow totem
They don’t exist
Correct 🙃
I've gotten 1 +3 fc relic. Missed the slam now need another LP heart to slam the duped one into it
hollow totem
lol is there any other uniques I can use to get + mage skill levels?
Tbh best way to do it is prob just spam exalted relic prophecies.
old vine
good idea
hollow totem
good idea
That's how I got mine. Make sure you use a rune of creation to dupe it as well.
old vine
What's that? never seen one of those runes
hollow totem
What's that? never seen one of those runes
It allows you to dupe/replicate any item so long as it has crafting potential but then after use it makes the crafting potential 0
are you CoF or MG?
old vine
CoF
warm sigil
So, I found a wrongwarp and decided to play with it because it seemed amusing. Im not very in depth with the game yet, figured i'd come here and ask if anyone has any big pointers im missing out on due to lack of knowledge.
The build kind of feels like a wash, i could probably push corruption 200 but it would be slow. Im working on survival atm, I dont die frequently but when I do its always a one shot.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AvbwzXWA
silk pewterBOT
warm sigil
oh god thats a huge textbox, sorry
robust gorge
i think you can surround the link with double tildes if you dont want the bot to respond, but its ok
warm sigil
With all buffs running, im sitting at ~30k nova dps, 183% cast speed and 109% ms
royal gull
Is there a way to rename characters?
safe grail
nope
royal gull
I regret my name of FrozenOrberer now 🙂
next lance
I regret my name of FrozenOrberer now 🙂
My balls are frozen!!!
royal gull
tmi
next lance
That's what orobyss would say
warm sigil
Thats a shame, its visually fun
midnight axle
Have they acknowledged how broken flame rush is?
Very often will go nowhere or teleports you to a random spot
trying to flame rush out of a death puddle and it teleports me back in it 👌
hearty cypress
risk of using flame rush
shrewd rain
is it worth it to replace teleport with surge?
hearty cypress
no
shrewd rain
dangit, seemed like it might be fun, especially as you can grab invul while surging.
hearty cypress
its only if youre mainly dealing damage thru surge
in whcih i thinky ou can look into vaion's
shrewd rain
Well, it was mostly for utility.
hearty cypress
then its not worth it
teleport can give u haste
and if u use weavers boots, u get up to 35% dr vs dot during haste
in which usually u can keep up permanently
shrewd rain
Right, sounds useful.
hearty cypress
what build u playing?
royal gull
If you have more than 100% chance to chill does that mean you can stack more? Like at 150% do you always apply 1 and 50% to apply 2 chill?
royal gull
Why am I fighting invisible Void Despairs?
turbid quail
what corruption can t4 julra be compared to?
hollow totem
feels so bad man. got a t5 cast speed t5 FC ranks but is a yellow D:
nvm I'm blind it's frost wall xD
jaunty vault
Would the Soulfire unique be any good for the Runemaster ignite build?
long stone
Runemaster here - lvl 96 - LF other runemasters to play with!!
hollow totem
what timelines do siege golems show up in?
vast quail
Does spellblade stop feeling like a mana sink at some point
There's a node in runemaster tree, the first one unsealed mana, that can help a lot once you have enough attack speed. Also in SB tree but in the second half you will find mana reaver node. I'm lvl 91 SB and have no mana problems whatsoever.
hollow tartan
aah ok thanks
obtuse reef
how long is Spell Cascade's cooldown that is added to spells?
old vine
Best boots for the Frost claw lightning build?
turbid quail
blood of the exile.
old vine
blood of the exile.
Just for the Int I assume?
turbid quail
yes and the 30% movespeed
old vine
Ah got it. Thank you
swift rock
Glyph of Dominion seems reallllllly strong, am I crazy? I can stand in this forever and melt things with Disintegrate, gain mana, and a crazy amount of ward per second with 45% resistances?!
turbid quail
if you're lacking resistance and not into slamming legendaries yet, you can go Transient Rest
old vine
Yeah I’m definitely not ready to slam stuff yet lol
tidal quartz
Best place for farming exalted relics?
neon lynx
the observatory
hollow totem
Is it worth trying to farm multiple pieces of gear at once from prophecies like prismatic, unbstable etc or going all in on 1 specific piece at a time?
nimble orbit
What do y'all go for defensive suffixes? Pure health? Armor? Or try to go for res caps?
And ward retention/generation?
hollow arrow
dang unstable cores are getting even worse in price
turbid quail
What do y'all go for defensive suffixes? Pure health? Armor? Or try to go for re...
It highly depends on the build. All builds - res cap
nimble orbit
Ahhh I see. Thanks!
turbid quail
Ahhh I see. Thanks!
you can also stack int for more ward retention and damage
trim jasper
Kinda crazy how strong int is
dusty steppe
is there any alternative wep use before having good LP firestarter torch? Or is is BiS wep even w/o LPs on ignite FC runemaster?
stone steppe
Does spellblade stop feeling like a mana sink at some point
Just grab some mana regen suffixs on ring/relic
crystal hollow
Do I need a +3 frost claw twisted heart to play lightning claw? Currently doing frostbite frostclaw but feeling stagnant
hearty cypress
What do y'all go for defensive suffixes? Pure health? Armor? Or try to go for re...
armor mostly, u stack it with static shell and just dr nodes from flame ward etc
if u have access to lightning aegis it also helps since it gives 25% dr
hollow totem
Do I need a +3 frost claw twisted heart to play lightning claw? Currently doing ...
I don't have it have 23 points in fc and have 0 issues. Breezing thru ~350 corr atm
trim jasper
I heard Lightning Aegis buff expires when you take a dmg amounting to 25% of your HP or more, even when the dmg is dealt to your ward and you still have some ward left, is that true?
Then again, reapplying the aegis isnt too hard.
nimble orbit
Yeah I'm not sweating too much about the aegis cap since you can just cast static orb to get it again for 8 seconds
trim jasper
The description said "when you lose 25% Health", so Id always assumed otherwise, but I cant exactly test it atm
hollow totem
T7 int T5 MS boots x2
T6 int T6 MS boots
2lp telfun
1lp blood of the exlie.
How would y'all go about slamming?
hollow totem
Ok thanks
unborn hamlet
Do I need a +3 frost claw twisted heart to play lightning claw? Currently doing ...
What are you stuck at with
Im using the build and running across 500+ corruption with ease, with still missing half the build
crystal hollow
I was doing a frostbite frostclaw build but I swapped into novaclaw which can do the monos im currently on im just kinda squishy vs normal mobs
unborn hamlet
Well , the FC frostbite only picks up after you get snowdrifts and frostbite shackles, (ideally twisted heart too) without these 3 the build is just unplayable
crystal hollow
I have all three
unborn hamlet
I could check your build but if you already swapped, doesn't matter
unborn hamlet
I can link you mine for reference tho
crystal hollow
sure thing
unborn hamlet
silk pewterBOT
hollow totem
So I finally got a 2lp Prismatic and its a 4% crit so that's nice. I have a helm with T6 int and lightning crit multi I believe, but the t6 int is a low roll D: I should wait for a higher int roll before I slam correct?
crystal hollow
I wish I could get a frostclaw twisted heart
unborn hamlet
So I finally got a 2lp Prismatic and its a 4% crit so that's nice. I have a helm...
T7 int max roll
Otherwise you're trolling
hollow totem
fr? Alr That's 18 on a helm correct?
I feel like that would be rather difficult to obtain no?
unborn hamlet
16 or 18 iirc
hollow arrow
16
hollow totem
16 is min roll no?
hearty cypress
So I finally got a 2lp Prismatic and its a 4% crit so that's nice. I have a helm...
wait for t7 int imo or t7 lightning crit
unborn hamlet
Just go with t7 int
hollow totem
ok
unborn hamlet
T6 into 2LP is simply trolling
hollow arrow
t7 int then uhhhh lightning dmg
can try to find one with those and uhhh armor/hp in helm
that way 2nd roll wont be too bad
hollow totem
I have a T7 int on chest for my unstable core but only a 1lp D:
cannot drop a 2lp for the life of me.
also cannot drop another lp blood of the exile :/
unborn hamlet
My hot take is that unstable core is just a bad Armour
hollow arrow
can use static shell, or tyrant armor with good rolls
unborn hamlet
Unless you're casting Nova directly, no reason to use it
hollow arrow
unstable if you get a 2lp with good rolls or something
hollow totem
My hot take is that unstable core is just a bad Armour
really?
I use atm for the extra point in fc and more mana so I reach 300. I haven't even found an lp static shell
unborn hamlet
The Nova part doesn't work unless it's a direct cast
hollow totem
right
errant plank
if "Font of the erased ring any good on desinteg build? Is desinteg doing "impacts" each second?
unborn hamlet
If you're using it just for the +1, Omnis provides you far better value
You can gain a lot of free mana from idols depending on what your build uses
hollow totem
If you're using it just for the +1, Omnis provides you far better value
I also have have spell crit strike doubled if above 300 mana on it but yes I am using it for the +1 rank to fc
hollow arrow
time to farm black sun some more
buoyant shuttle
Can freeze any bosses?like permanent freeze
robust junco
if "Font of the erased ring any good on desinteg build? Is desinteg doing "impac...
Don't know if the ring is good or not but Disintegrate doesn't not hit, it's a dot spell.
lyric mango
I have Frost Wall ice damage on Mage respeced to fire damage, so now items with fire damage affixes will bump the damage of the Frost Wall or still cold damage?
hollow totem
time to farm black sun some more
wait what for?
hollow arrow
crit multi blessing
hollow arrow
yeah i had a low roll and it was annoying me
hollow totem
I had a min roll as well
hollow arrow
i got 38% just now so im okay with that
hollow totem
aye nice
hollow arrow
my only max roll is the resist one from lagon
20% lol
err not lagon sorry, the uhhhh
dragons
hollow totem
alright time to give the blood of exile boots a whirl at slamming. T7 int 🙏
hollow totem
thx imma need it. I finally hit int on prismatic after 6 slams and then get a 2lp 4% crit :/
hollow totem
im gonna slam a 3lp enigma soon
oh wow nice. I would be happy with another 2lp tbh I hit cast speed but missed crit multi D:
hollow arrow
yeah both of the 2lps i had failed so
hoping this will go at least with int/crit
i would've tried to slam sooner but in the zone farming favor rn
trying to keep it going long as i can lmao
hollow totem
favor is important. I need to farm some up tbh and smash out some prophecies for better lp boots and a static shell tbh
hollow totem
yeah both of the 2lps i had failed so
so you said try for the T7 into the blood of exile?
hollow arrow
i'd prolly save all the boots you got for more bloods in the future
cuz those are better overall
the telfuns or w/e they are only benefit flame rush
cuz only skill thats channelled
but yeah i'd do t7 in the lp1 since you have another t7 roll
hollow totem
but yeah i'd do t7 in the lp1 since you have another t7 roll
ok thx. Save the higher T7 for a 2lp blood is the play I would imagine?
hollow totem
def. Sad part is my bloods roll is max int and only lp1
hollow totem
I used a t7 I'm scared to look
fml
worst possible outcome tbh
missed MS and int. got ele res
hollow totem
I dont need ele res xD
thinking of trying my lucky with 2lp telfun
if I can slam MS and int might be worth
can't hit the 180 threshold for red ring anyway
dusty steppe
Anyone here playing Bootys ignite frost claw BiS version?
hollow arrow
everybody pretty much asleep atm i think lmao
peak geyser
What’s a good lvl build ?
buoyant bloom
So I made a Sorcerer build playing Disintegrate. My goal was to make a build without reading up anything. Now that I have, it looks like Glyph of Dominion is kind of required for it.
Should I, uh, reroll? Level 89 atm
hollow arrow
if you look up kyo in discord search for this channel
he's one of the few running disintegrate, and seems to be doing well with it
he linked a build planner at some point, you could look for that and get ideas
for a good lvl build you could look up maxroll to get started, then pick a build you wanna do from lastepochtools
buoyant bloom
Thanks! I did look up Maxroll's build (https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/disintegrate-runemaster-guide), which, of course, also suggests Runemaster (vs. Sorcerer), to get access to Glyph. I guess my question is - whether it's worth rerolling for that
hollow arrow
Oh i meant for you to check out kyos build planner
maxroll lvl guide for uhhhh yenne
peak geyser
@hollow arrow Ty sir
hollow arrow
this was it
for you @buoyant bloom
does use runemaster so yeah you may wanna reroll
dunno if you can run with it on sorc
but sorc has a good LB shock build you could run
buoyant bloom
this was it
Was looking for it, thanks!
hollow totem
damn rngeesus hates me. Missed int on all 3 boot slams D:
glass sinew
Where am I supposed to put points in the Elemental Nova skill tree with Crest of Unity? I've read some things are bugged, what applies?
hollow totem
hmmmm time to do the lance timeline
what for?
trim jasper
I think go get the overcharge nodes (?) since it gives more dmg in theory, though spark charge will probably still be your main dmg
hollow arrow
get a new blessing, i never upgraded it from the normal monos
see if i can grab something i need to farm for lmao
hollow totem
OK I genuninely don't understand Julras mechanics
is there like a video guide for it for morons?
hollow arrow
ohh 74 of 75% boots drop rate
i'll take that
cuz i need a good pair of bloods lmao
hollow totem
ohh 74 of 75% boots drop rate
which timeline is that one from?
hollow arrow
broken lance or w/e it is
buoyant bloom
Very interesting. @barren pawn , may I ask what your Disintegrate ticks for?
hollow arrow
thast the one that has blessings that increase your drop rates for certain items
kyo is prolly asleep rn
buoyant bloom
kyo is prolly asleep rn
pfft, sleep? what sleep? There's a game to play 🙂
hollow totem
broken lance or w/e it is
ah alright. I may go for that next. Currently losing my mind trying to kill T4 Julra so I can try and slam int on my unstable core. Need a 1/4 I'm def due for one.
hollow arrow
lol i feel that
buoyant bloom
But I can wait, of course 🙂 It looks like going Runemaster is a thing I need to do; but the interesting thing is that. unless I'm mistaken in my calculations, which is quite possible, Ingivar's Head isn't that good. Plugging his numbers into my spreadsheet, I get a very small difference from my current damage (with a staff and no crit at all)
hollow arrow
i know he just swapped to that build for the low life
there may be another link that had the other numbers
silk pewterBOT
hollow totem
finally killed her just to miss the int slam tho brb with dissapointment xD
hollow totem
for this lp3 enigma
gl
hollow arrow
hopefully i can at least get both crit and cast this time
hollow totem
hope you can too
buoyant bloom
i know he just swapped to that build for the low life
Thanks! Let me look
hollow totem
hit crit/ele resist/ward per sec
big oof
hollow arrow
just need a cast/crit enigma lmao
buoyant bloom
So this looks to give 13% more damage than I currently have (again, with probably subpar gear, no uniques, not to mention legendaries). So either I'm missing something critical, or maybe Ingivar's Head really isn't that good, which would suck
buoyant bloom
there may be another link that had the other numbers
meant to reply here, of course
hollow arrow
yeah i wouldn't know about disintegrate at all, i havent tried it out nor theorycrafted for it, but i know that for now it's still up in the air for how to make it better
welp imma try this 2lp i just bought
hollow totem
welp imma try this 2lp i just bought
does increased boots drop even work with uniques?
hollow arrow
think it should work with everything
so you could aim for relics if you wanted
i didnt get that one while running broken lance
but i did see amulet/ring
hollow totem
hmm. That is a tough one. Boots or relic
hollow arrow
boots go for good money rn cuz people need so many with ms/int
hollow totem
which you think I'm better of getting? relic for now?
and just pick up boot prophecies?
hollow arrow
in the end it's up to what you wanna farm first
can grind it out and decide
see what you get when you kill the boss for blessings
lol +1 to fc relic
free shards
hollow totem
lol +1 to fc relic
yeah at this point I got a few of those that are exalt. 1 with T6 int. debating if a +2fc and T6 int relic is good enough to slam with 2lp heart but I don't think it's worth
hollow arrow
welp failed, got cast and elemental
hollow totem
I also have one with cast speed
hollow totem
welp failed, got cast and elemental
oof
hollow arrow
but more cast spd than my last one so i'll use it for now
back to farming spirits of fire
gonna lvl these weaver gloves
they started with int as first 3 rolls so maybe something decent here
hollow totem
aye cast speed would be god gloves
hollow totem
i hit 300% base cast speed
damn wow T7 rolls on everything?
hollow totem
nice. That's nearly double mine that' wild
echo bay
can we pls get a dark Frost Claw MTX asap or at least turn down the brightness of the skill? i would like to keep my eyesight for some longer... https://imgur.com/a/zJs3gLW and no, turning down the brightness in options does literally nothing for it
https://imgur.com/a/SyR4WWj this is the same in a darker area. not even close as bad as in snow. i do think that the skill does reflect onto the snow and some strange shadow/lightning effect actually brightens the snow up
stoic minnow
https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/novaclaw-spark-charge-runemaster
Followed the spell order for reowyn's frostguard. But it instead gave me Gon-Heo-Heo
is this a bug?
echo bay
if you placed your skill like in the build u never will get frostguard
crimson raft
You probably changed or didn't change on of your skills to a different element.
echo bay
you need to place them like this https://imgur.com/a/EAN1GUs
skills in buildplanner are right tho but the site that opens up when u press ur link will never give you the runes u need
hard orbit
nooby frostclaw question but even with 3/3 gift of winter and frozen reign isnt the frost claw cost too high to sustain?
stoic minnow
you need to place them like this https://imgur.com/a/EAN1GUs
ohhhhhhhhhh
bruhhh
i didnt know it has to be in order
like in order as in the
echo bay
**nooby** frostclaw question but even with 3/3 gift of winter and frozen reign i...
u need to have MAXIMUM 24 mana cost for being able to sustain it
stoic minnow
yk
echo bay
i didnt know it has to be in order
yep, element from skill 1-3 left to right (invocation gets ignored
stoic minnow
wow ty man been trying to figuring this out since yesterday
echo bay
read immutable order node in runic onvation tree it will tell you
hard orbit
u need to have MAXIMUM 24 mana cost for being able to sustain it
uuuuuuuuuh I guess the frostclaw mana efficiency idols help? but I feel like the volley of glass node on frostclaw is gonna bankrupt me in terms of mana cost
trim jasper
uuuuuuuuuh I guess the frostclaw mana efficiency idols help? but I feel like the...
Theyre mandatory imo
hard orbit
and most builds throw elemental nova on top as a proc which further taxes me
trim jasper
No problemo sir, with a wand, ele nova should cost 0 mana
echo bay
uuuuuuuuuh I guess the frostclaw mana efficiency idols help? but I feel like the...
u do need -mana cost wand and good idols for it to work ye - https://imgur.com/a/RVdV9ZI
echo bay
and most builds throw elemental nova on top as a proc which further taxes me
nova has 0 mana cost
which i wouldn´t recommend in term of single target dmg, nice clear with nova but that´s about it. runebolt would boost your dmg higher tho
hard orbit
u do need -mana cost wand and good idols for it to work ye - https://imgur.com/a...
I'm fairly clueless on mage and I'm following the maxroll guide which has a scepter instead of wand tho
echo bay
I'm fairly clueless on mage and I'm following the maxroll guide which has a scep...
just don´t
maxroll nono
wouldn´t even recommend the frost version of Frost Claw at all, no matter what you wanna do
lightning with enigma catalyst is superior in every single way
hard orbit
lightning with enigma catalyst is superior in every single way
ooooooooh ok, just felt nice having the slow/freeze for mobs and bosses
echo bay
i mean play whatever you like, but lightning is just better
hard orbit
i mean play whatever you like, but lightning is just better
No I mean I'm grateful for the info, I was just going by feeling and roughly following guides
echo bay
lastepochtools is by far the better site for builds imo
just don´t follow any Allie Runemaster build and you´re good ^^
hard orbit
allie? XD
echo bay
it the name of the buildwriter, female streamer having no clue what she´s doing basically
on lastepochtools most others are fine
https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/novaclaw-spark-charge-runemaster this should be about what you will need
silk pewterBOT
echo bay
i mean there´s way way way more build on the site, but little got written guides (i assumed you would want a written guide)
hard orbit
most gear pieces look the same except maybe some show mad alchemists or dragoraths
echo bay
dragorath will drain your mana even more as if you would play without even any weapon
a -mana cost weapon is surely recommended for the build u want
tough basalt
it the name of the buildwriter, female streamer having no clue what she´s doing ...
are they so bad? read some of them and they seems in depth and well writen
echo bay
well the last one i saw made Frost Claw fire while still playing with enigma. so basically you fck yourself for Frost Claw no longer being able to scale with the absurd amount of lightning damage that you´re putting into the build
that´s like peak nonsense xD
and yes, she did change it later on
and sure, Frostclaw or Nova is not the source where most of dmg is coming. but why on earth would u make ur skills scale worse on purpose
hard orbit
a -mana cost weapon is surely recommended for the build u want
so if I get it right the damage comes from applying spark charge which then explodes
echo bay
so if I get it right the damage comes from applying spark charge which then expl...
well yeah, nova does apply them by skilling into them and frostclaw does with a 10-12% chance per hit (every projectile is a single hit) through your catalyst named fragment of enigma
enigma is enabling the build, nothing else
hard orbit
well yeah, nova does apply them by skilling into them and frostclaw does with a ...
but even though it's an ailment its not damage over time right?
echo bay
static shell for sure, the +1 skill level can also come from omnis imo and static shell give you way more armor and arguably even more dmg
echo bay
but even though it's an ailment its not damage over time right?
no, that´s a hard one tho. spark charge itself (the damagin part) is a spell. but the way spark charge gets detonated 1 sec after apply is an ailment
signal iron
You'll want to get static shell for bis I think but unstable core still good. You can also reach 300 mana with it for your idols easier
echo bay
No omnis gang 🥹
no omnis and no ele nova gang here
nimble shoal
Spark charge (the part that deals damage) is a lightning spell hit that just happens for be procced by an ailment also named spark charge
hard orbit
no, that´s a hard one tho. spark charge itself (the damagin part) is a spell. bu...
so nova is better for mapping I guess, but you mentioned runebolt?
echo bay
so nova is better for mapping I guess, but you mentioned runebolt?
yeah, nova has insane clear, runebolt further buffing your dmg of spark charge is way more dmg in singletarget (bossing)
signal iron
no omnis and no ele nova gang here
Chad
hollow arrow
piplexi think the name is, has a build with nova/runebolt/frost wall
which is more for bossing
but also has spd with frenzy & haste
hard orbit
yeah, nova has insane clear, runebolt further buffing your dmg of spark charge i...
can I see somewhere the runebolt skill tree?
does frostclaw proc runebolt?
unborn hamlet
You can always just spec frostclaw into spamming nova for you
echo bay
depends on your build, im going for at least T6 reduced bonus dmg, so im capped on 100% with a single affix since we got also reduced dmg in passive tree + t6-t7 int roll ofc. you can also put a reduced bonus dmg on ur belt but i will need to be a middle-high t7 roll for it being enough
silk pewterBOT
echo bay
the lower nodes in the middle give you the dmg buff i was talking about
important thing to mention here is that it gives you + dmg and also not % (while + dmg is generally the better)
signal iron
I heard crsr of unity was bugged? Is that fixed now?
hard orbit
crest of unity?
echo bay
but also has spd with frenzy & haste
frenzy trough flamerush is better imo, and you also don´t miss a traversal skill this way
echo bay
crest of unity?
ffs wrong link
silk pewterBOT
hard orbit
ffs wrong link
hahahahahahahah it didnt even have runebolt and I'm like whaaaaaaaaaaaat
echo bay
wait a sec i got mixed up hard
there we go https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3EZ32VQ
silk pewterBOT
hollow arrow
frenzy trough flamerush is better imo, and you also don´t miss a traversal skill...
just use traversal with runic
echo bay
3 wrong links later lel
echo bay
just use traversal with runic
that´s not good at all since u have +5 more sec cooldown and therefore have a longer downtime of the dmg buff that runic invocation provides you
hollow arrow
I dont play his setup, he pushes 2k+ corruption so he does that build for better bossing
I stick around 500 cuz im farming for like 3 characters now even though i need to focus on one lmao
echo bay
i´ve seen the setup you´re refering to tho. just not sure if that´s the optimal way to go
not bad for sure
hard orbit
there we go https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3EZ32VQ
waiiiiiit a minute
why going cold damage on runebolt if you care about lightning damage?
also this way you cast runebolt manually? so you alternate between runebolt and frostclaw?
hollow arrow
yeah i have his build open now
echo bay
waiiiiiit a minute
why going cold damage on runebolt if you care about lightni...
you need Cold, Fire, Cold on your skillbar for Runic invocation to always have a 100% Frostguard Invotaion
hollow arrow
he plays it differently and plays it well lol
i wont say nothing cuz i havent gotten to his corruption lvl
i like my nova spam FC for now
echo bay
waiiiiiit a minute
why going cold damage on runebolt if you care about lightni...
you will just need runebolt for keeping your haste buff + the dmg buff up, so yeah i cast them manually from time to time, you won´t need it for echos tho but makes bossing way faster
btw runebolt cold skilled give you mana when u cast it, thats the more important thing to say
hard orbit
you will just need runebolt for keeping your haste buff + the dmg buff up, so ye...
oh ok ok but you kinda lose the nova procs which do apply spark charges
hard orbit
btw runebolt cold skilled give you mana when u cast it, thats the more important...
sold
echo bay
u will run out of mana sooner or later
but your complete full mana after 1-2 runebolt casts
where you will never ever be even close to no mana if you keep up your buffs from runebolt anyway
hard orbit
u will run out of mana sooner or later
will you tho? I see with the electric frost claw you have extra mana efficiency
echo bay
will you tho? I see with the electric frost claw you have extra mana efficiency
it stronlgy depends how good your 36% chance to regain mana on frostclaw is
if it´s rng is good you´re always full, if it fails like 2-3 times in a row your´re completly oom
echo bay
will you tho? I see with the electric frost claw you have extra mana efficiency
you also won´t really get the mana cost below 21-20 mana
echo bay
oh ok ok but you kinda lose the nova procs which do apply spark charges
yep, you lose the spark charge from nova which seems to most like missing dmg... but don´t forget that the runebolt more and increased dmg both apply to the spark charge and your frostclaw itself
echo bay
oh thats why its nice having a decent manapull
i don´t have a single +mana affix tho, sitting at 144 mana atm
manastacking is more for sorc
hollow totem
lightning crit multi is better than spell crit even if it's doubled yes?
hollow arrow
ive done pretty well for mana + my fc cost is almost 20
if i get my FC mana efficiency up
but no +4 relic for me, just int
echo bay
i just cba playing with 15 fps while also burning my eyes out xD kinda the reason why i didn´t go nova claw in the first place. besides the fact that singletarget is better without nova imo
echo clearspeed is insane with nova tho
echo bay
lightning crit multi is better than spell crit even if it's doubled yes?
lightning-, spell-, elemental- whatever does the exact same thing, besides that "elemental-" rolls lower as the other 2 in the same tier
hard orbit
im already half blind
I come from explosive ballista rogue, I dont even use my screen I just look away and hope I dont die
hollow totem
lightning-, spell-, elemental- whatever does the exact same thing, besides that ...
ok cool thx so lgihtning mulit better. Gonna try and dupe helm and then go for T7 int and T5 light multi into 2lp prismatic
hollow arrow
hmmm im still tempted to try a primalist summoner build
echo bay
ok cool thx so lgihtning mulit better. Gonna try and dupe helm and then go for T...
just looked it up and i think you got things mixed up... the lightning is a crit MULTIPLIER, the spell one is a CRIT CHANCE
hollow totem
just looked it up and i think you got things mixed up... the lightning is a crit...
yeah I know. Lightning crit multi and spell crit chance
echo bay
well the one got nothing to do with the other tho
crit chance won´t do anything at all for your dmg, also when the tooltip changes. crit multiplier actually makes your crit do more dmg
assumed you already have 100% crits
therefore it depens what you need, if you don´t have crits all the time already, go with the crit chance. if you already just see yellow numbers then go with the multiplier
hollow totem
crit chance won´t do anything at all for your dmg, also when the tooltip changes...
ok thx
unborn hamlet
the only time i sometime run Oom is when i spam flamerush for the cast speed buff
then i run out of mana faster than the mana can start returning to me
😂
echo bay
are u facetanking bosses or still moving? im also getting oom sometimes even i got 23 atm and had 22 some time ago
if you move you wil regenrate fast enough tho
hard orbit
therefore it depens what you need, if you don´t have crits all the time already,...
ok since I found the chance to spam you and you look like mage guru, one last question
how does flat spell damage, % spell damage, flat lightning damag and % lightning damage scale? cause I'm lost
echo bay
the only time i sometime run Oom is when i spam flamerush for the cast speed buf...
well, that´s 90% up if i play ^^
unborn hamlet
everyboss i can facetank i do just that
the issue is not that i run out of mana because no procs
they do proc
but i cast so fast my mana pool cant handle it
echo bay
ok since I found the chance to spam you and you look like mage guru, one last qu...
im not a mage guru hahaha, i started to play last epoch 4 days before it came out lel
echo bay
but i cast so fast my mana pool cant handle it
i feel you XD
echo bay
it would be too much to explain dmg calculation in this chat here tho, so i linked you something xD
echo bay
my mana pool is 140
144 mana gang
echo bay
ive been taking my 400 mana for granted
are you playing sorc or RM?
hard orbit
it would be too much to explain dmg calculation in this chat here tho, so i link...
that is appreciated
hollow arrow
rm lmao
echo bay
but generally said you want a high base dmg (more/+) while then having a high multiplier (increased). It´s a mix of both actually.
echo bay
me neither, but my manapool looks like having a seizure tho
unborn hamlet
mana aneurysm
realistically, i basically hit the endgame build
the only things i can improve is hyper RNG double exald BiS items and more LP on uniques
i guess ill push corruption as far as i can to see where i hit the wall
still need to find a T7 cast speed oppulent , but like, its so hard to drop perfect T7 freeze rate one 😂
hollow arrow
i'll go back down in mana once i swap my unstable core out lol
unborn hamlet
question is, should i sacrifice 1 of my rings to try and slam 2LP julra
grand frigate
Hi, i play a full ignite frost claw + elem nova runemaster and have ear crest of unity is bugged with ignite but can't found the truth. I see some people still play it for ignite via frost claw but on the other side i see forum post telling this don't work with elemental tranquillity node nor with direct ignite application with frost claw. If someone know something about it i'm curious to understand if it work because +6lvl + less damage taken + aoe is huge
bronze shore
Hi, i play a full ignite frost claw + elem nova runemaster and have ear crest of...
tbf ele nova it self doesnt scale really well without build for spark charge
so crest of unity it just pretty niche
and of course the tri-ele schrödinger bug
i have heard some source that tri ele doesnt work and some say it work
pretty weird function
grand frigate
Idk for now i play it at 400 corruption it's fine maybe latter i will Switch if the ignite become garbage but for now i like it
bronze shore
Idk for now i play it at 400 corruption it's fine maybe latter i will Switch if ...
you use it with the self ignite belt right?
grand frigate
Have ear for ignite you Can scale any % damage on a tree and the ignite apply by this skill will apply it with all modifier
I'm not playing any self ignite belt idk what is it
I'm playing just playing some good ignite unique with t7 elem damage over Time / ignite chance etc and that work well for now
With the firestarter torch, it's pretty good a 3lp cost nothing
I Guess i will buy a Crest and try with and without on a dummy to see if i apply the same stack of ignite or not
bronze shore
frost claw seems to be the worst skill to play ignite with tbh
most ignite build will always use immolator oblation
basicly the belt will ignite yourself when you use any fire skill or necortic skill
every ignite stack on you will increased your dmg output
not only that it will also grant frenzy
reason why frost claw is the worst for ignite focus build is that frost claw have self cleanse which will cleanse the ignite if you use immolator oblation
dusty steppe
I still feel calamity is best for ignite frost claw unless u have +3LP crest (that what Bootynoodles said too)
Oh nvm I think another helmet, my bad
grand frigate
but flat damage to spell doesn't scale ignite if i'm correct?
grand frigate
so with this belt you play a classic caster but with ignite chance for stacking flat
i see
whe i have read ele nova i have think it's great for ignite purpose (100% duration 200% chance and 90% more damage), but like i said i'm just at corrup 400 i guess it's nothing and that why full ignite work for now
bronze shore
ignite i persume scale with the ability dmg instead
that mean the belt wont directly buff the ignite but buff the fire skill which cause the ignite
thus = more dmg
grand frigate
yes that what i have understand so i take ele nova damage and stack on the stuff ignite chance fire pen and elem damage over time, also a bit of duration
ho you think?
in this case i haven't understand it
i have just read ignite = no add flat damage and no crit and ignite scale with %damage of the skill but not the base damage itself
safe grail
I’ve been tryna figure out an ignite build on sorc lol
It has been a struggle and im running low on favor so I’ll probably need to blast some corruption on my RM
grand frigate
how i have understand it is it's better to have a skill with 100 dps and 100% inc damage than 1000 and 0% inc damage
bronze shore
what i know is if an ignite build dont use immolator than it kinda lossing alot of potential
and Frost claw ironicly cant use immolator
grand frigate
because the base damage of the skill doesn't matter but i have maybe misunderstood
safe grail
Kain explained this yesterday actually
safe grail
Dot ailments applied by abilities scale with p much everything besides crit
bronze shore
the skill have higher base dmg = more dmg at the end