still no idea what i'm doing xD
#🧙┃mage
short peak
warped crow
lol
short peak
in my dream I would have been able to be at like negatrive mana all the time but doesn't work like that
with mana strike
hollow totem
t6 int t6 Movespeed boots. worth trying to slam into 2lp telfun or wait for a 2lp blood of the exile?
short peak
the mana goes away really fast, I can up the uptime with more mana on mana strike, still I won't be able to get out of mana benefit
sad
warped crow
ic
latent cloak
hi i got 3 lp reowyn's fortress any build ideas?
warped crow
with mana strike
you could burn mana with mana storm
short peak
you could burn mana with mana storm
wait I messedf up maybe it won't work with azzural fury
okay i'm lost
don't understand
warped crow
thought you tested it
short peak
yeah but I just reroled it
and didn't put point into spell dmg/melee dmg thingy
...
so
it's a bit weird
my dmg go up
okay I get it now
I had the boots that chilled me and enchant weapon activing automatically
so it was messing up my things
warped crow
lol
warped crow
ye
short peak
oh I know, I need lot of attack speed
with that, azzurel furry should last way longer
warped crow
pog
warped crow
with that, azzurel furry should last way longer
oh ye keep in mind that if you wanna do any trigger shenanigans from frostclaw you are gonna need positive mana
short peak
it is okay I guess, the fury doesn't work once i'm out of mana so it was not working
anyway
warped crow
so no triggering frostclaw to trigger ele nova/ice barrage
warped crow
it is okay I guess, the fury doesn't work once i'm out of mana so it was not wor...
oh ic
warped crow
i see
warped crow
lol
short peak
lol
for now all i'm thinking is mana strike + frostclaw and azzural's fury
the rest I need to figure out
warped crow
lol
turbid quail
More freeze! more freeze!
https://paste.pics/QLOSK
short peak
More freeze! more freeze!
https://paste.pics/QLOSK
coool item :p
I don'(t have something as good as this
for now
robust whale
I sold an idol that is worth 15 million gold but sold it 9.5 million I'm so dumb
Didn't check twice
winter crow
omg, my ring actually sold for double price XD
ppl really pay double just for 2% resistances and +1 all atributes
robust whale
Were did you farm that none existing ring? 👀
warped crow
ppl really pay double just for 2% resistances and +1 all atributes
+2 all res is really +14 res xD
winter crow
Were did you farm that none existing ring? 👀
2.2k corr
winter crow
+2 all res is really +14 res xD
xD
robust whale
How many hrs have ya wasted?
winter crow
around 500
robust whale
💀
tardy comet
silk pewterBOT
winter crow
ima try another +2 heart slam with the money from the ring xd
if it goes good if it doesnt its free money I got anyways
hollow arrow
this
winter crow
this is just to min/max a bit more, I dont need 2 extra fc levels but spell dmg and having a bit more dmg in fc would be nice
hollow arrow
i tried the build with LB & Nova
but felt like i was doing less dmg
than just ladle & nova
hollow arrow
ye
im gonna put the dagger on my Lb sorc build
will be perfect for it lol
imma try your build out again
i forgot about the runic and was using frostwall to move around
i got foot of the mountain boots with movespeed so im not as fast lmao
winter crow
i got foot of the mountain boots with movespeed so im not as fast lmao
oh thats bad
turbid quail
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BjqbyvyQ
Dang never thought of frost wall. I'm dropping my flame ward for that 6 second haste and frenzy buff
winter crow
Dang never thought of frost wall. I'm dropping my flame ward for that 6 second h...
frostwall isnt there for the haste and frenzy thats just an extra
frostwall is there cuz 14% increased dmg and it casts runebolt
runebolt gives 21% dmg
hollow arrow
i'll eventually get blood
turbid quail
yup, but I don't play runebolt. I'm just looking for a flame ward replacement since it feels so useless in a freeze build
hollow arrow
will be a min tho lmao
barren pawn
anyone doin julra? im outta keys and need to slam
fallow zealot
anyone have a good build guide for nova claw?
winter crow
https://gyazo.com/cec7ecd146c2b7691376792a14bb92f0 this may look like rip
but its actually a W
I dont need +2fc levels and necro resis allows me to free some idol slots
so a bit more min/max
broken harness
today's update didn't fix the shock freeze bug, sad.
quick loom
Why that belt Pip?
simple stirrup
anyone done a flame reave mage where you dont stack firebrand? you just cast flame reave?
winter crow
Why that belt Pip?
belt is there for armour so I can have an easier time killing orobyss
strand of souls is better for mapping
also I need the cold resist cuz upgraded gloves to t7 armor
winter crow
yeah, rn im mostly playing the bazaar rn
dusty steppe
who had best frost claw runemaster guide? (end-game)
winter crow
theres no "best"
some builds are better for certain things
my build is a good all-arounder, ik some builds that do more dmg than mine like killing t4 julra in 5 sec, but their ward is thrash so they can't survive in my corr
also depends on what playstyle you like
dusty steppe
well i want tanky RM who can survise like ~3k corr
winter crow
I can assure you my build can, but doing orobyss past 2k is hard
id say with any runemaster build
silk pewterBOT
barren pawn
CMON AND SLAM
hollow arrow
maybe tomorrow i'll try a 2lp twisted slam
barren pawn
IF YOU WANNA JAM
hollow arrow
see if we can get int and fc
winter crow
what runic invocation combo are u channeling with this build?
the only good one
frostguard
winter crow
CMON AND SLAM
idk ive failed 2 2lp julras and 2 2lp hearts in 2 days now
slams kinda troll atm
also failed a red ring slam last week
😦
barren pawn
slams kinda troll atm
didja see the pic?
winter crow
yeah, looks like thrash XD
fallow zealot
the only good one
lol I was trying to figure out for the longest time why my runes changed and I didnt have it set up properly with immutable order
hollow totem
Finally got red ring!!! With 1lp as well
barren pawn
yeah, looks like thrash XD
🙄
fallow zealot
just figured it out after all day
winter crow
Finally got red ring!!! With 1lp as well
holy grats
barren pawn
I am not blowing t7 anything on an lp2.
hollow totem
Got 2 tries to slam int on it. Prayage
winter crow
Got 2 tries to slam int on it. Prayage
gl
hollow arrow
quick loom
belt is there for armour so I can have an easier time killing orobyss
Thanks for the reply 👍
hollow totem
Gonna need to slam int on helm tho too I think to get the bonus effect from 180 total attributes
hollow totem
what'd ya get it from
Prophecy and thx
hollow arrow
nice
winter crow
ima try another 2lp julra slam just because xd
hollow arrow
lmao
winter crow
https://gyazo.com/804282975f1af4545f0adcbdca02064d another brick xD
quick loom
Could be worse 😆
hollow arrow
rip
winter crow
I just lost like 200m today, time to log off xd
winter crow
yeah actually its usable
hollow arrow
ye phys res and int aint bad at all tbh
winter crow
cuz I can add armor idols instead of my phys res
hollow arrow
ye
winter crow
but it has a low roll spell dmg
hollow arrow
see a plus
winter crow
thats what triggers me
hollow arrow
lmao
winter crow
https://gyazo.com/1f82c74167a906e83a12b3cae8a297a4 this one was the godly one
max int and crit chance exalted
with high roll spell dmg
but bricked too 😭
quick loom
😬
dusty steppe
What is best way level RM to around.. 80? just use maxroll levelling guide?
winter crow
What is best way level RM to around.. 80? just use maxroll levelling guide?
oh I thought you were endgame level, for starters I recommend bootynoodle fireclaw build on yt
dusty steppe
yeah just starting levelling RM
winter crow
dont try my build, scales a ton but its very bad at low investment
the fireclaw one from yt its actually good for its investment
quick loom
He is still tweaking it even lol
quick loom
The one before that
quick loom
Thats a new tweak to the original
Yes the 2nd one
Can watch both. Just start with the old
dusty steppe
ok thats old one is cheap af
dusty steppe
its rly can push high corruption with items like calamity? O.o
quick loom
If he did it, it’s possible. Skill would play a factor though
winter crow
fixed idols and moved some things with the new stuff https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83gj3ko
silk pewterBOT
winter crow
I wont touch it for a while now
dusty steppe
but noodle still not helps how to level that build lol 😄 probably just using maxrolls guide?
quick loom
What lvl are you?
dusty steppe
1
quick loom
I would follow maxroll till the glacier dmg starts falling off. Then go into frost claw
dusty steppe
Yeah sounds good
quick loom
Fireball>glacier>fc
barren pawn
wonder what a 1lp renigma is nowadays on mg
dusty steppe
atleaast u can equip most of "end-game" gear like on lv10 lol
quick loom
Prob 20m
winter crow
ocea and stardial?
ocearon gives the same dmg as a 72% spell dmg stardial
barren pawn
ocearon gives the same dmg as a 72% spell dmg stardial
stardial triples your slammed stats.
x2
soooo
winter crow
only for 4 secs
thats taking 16 int slammed
on both rings
ocearon gives 10% dmg boost
barren pawn
16x3 homie
winter crow
yeah 2 dps stats on julra is a better than ocearon
but 1lp, its the same thing
but ocearon you dont care about rolls
julra if its not maxed roll you lose dmg vs ocearon
test it yourself, get a t7 int ocearon and t7 int julra, test the dmg and kill times
I already spent too much hours doing it
barren pawn
Homie if im runnin julras its gonna be 2lp slammed minimum
dusty steppe
just dropped twisted heart but its 1LP 😦
barren pawn
just dropped twisted heart but its 1LP 😦
still a good cunk of gold
quick loom
just dropped twisted heart but its 1LP 😦
Thats still really good
Is LEtools down?
Nm
hollow totem
is red ring even worth using if you don't slam int?
dusty steppe
still a good cunk of gold
im CoF
short peak
@warped crowtried again, this time it doesn't work 😭 forget it, azzural fury doesn't boost it i think, i'm sure nowx
hollow totem
it is if you need resistances
I mean kinda but I wouldn't be able to hit 180 breakpoint yet
missing int on helm and chest
hollow totem
ok thought so
hopefully slam #2 hits int
my julra ring got lucky and hit 1/4 int
do you guys ever have problems with another key function not working because you held down fc?
it keeps getting me killed when I go to swap timezones in julra fight and I hit D and nothing happens. Is my only idea on why it doesn't work
quick loom
Im guessing some skills wont trigger during fc spam. Might just be cause im on controller though. I have to pause for runic invocation. But flame ward works 🤷♂️
unborn hamlet
It's because flame ward cast animation can be cancelled instantly
As for Runic Invocation, it cannot
You just have to pause for a brief moment for it to cast
As for the Julra swap, you can't cancel frostclaw animation with it because it's not a skill, it's rather a game mechanic,
hollow totem
As for the Julra swap, you can't cancel frostclaw animation with it because it's...
ah ok ty
dusty steppe
Ngl levelling RM is pretty fast
robust gorge
it does count as using a skill for some purposes
the julra warp
guessing the other ones do too
hollow totem
W POG hit int on the red ring slam
unborn hamlet
Wow that word is really censored?
Anyway GG RNGesus blessing you
I finally got 2LP snowdrifts duped y'day, t7 speed slam failed miserably, the T6 landed with +108 armor, big improvement (also the shoes had all around better rolls)
Was hoping for int or recovery speed but honestly, with armor giving me 68% extra Armor, it's a pretty big defense boost, went from 42 mitigation to 48
Now I'm off to look for 2LP shackles or twisted heart I guess, and some good ring I can try to slam into the 2LP stardial I got
hollow totem
Wow that word is really censored?
wait what word is censored?
hollow totem
I finally got 2LP snowdrifts duped y'day, t7 speed slam failed miserably, the T6...
gz and gl with the hunt
unborn hamlet
wait what word is censored?
Am not gonna try to explain but it follows the word suck, but it's not a swear word
hollow totem
Am not gonna try to explain but it follows the word suck, but it's not a swear w...
ah ok
unborn hamlet
gz and gl with the hunt
I mean, Kek, 2LP both 1% chance, aaand it's a boss specific drop and both are rare boss drops
Time to go 5k corruption without seeing single one
hollow totem
I mean, Kek, 2LP both 1% chance, aaand it's a boss specific drop and both are ra...
oof Hopefully you get it before then
dusty steppe
when levelling RM, should I start using frost claw right when i get cold to fire node? (going to use noodles ignite FC RM)
hollow totem
Y'all think it's worth to slam a 2lp heart with a +2 rc rank and T5 int/T5 cast speed
trim jasper
T7 int and +2 fc imo
Assuming youre doing the frostclaw spark charge build
hearty cypress
Y'all think it's worth to slam a 2lp heart with a +2 rc rank and T5 int/T5 cast ...
def not imo
its really hard to justify that cuz the value of 2lp hard is just way too high
hearty cypress
only for 4 secs
im so glad that someone actually understands my logic behind >>stardial
i do think that it can be good if youre trying to really really do a huge burst skill like maybe oldskool static orb
but even in its own form, rm's fc nova still classified as ailment inflict
hollow totem
def not imo
That's my thought as well
hearty cypress
from what ive seen,
hollow totem
I have a +3 relic but the other rolls are trash
hearty cypress
as fc build u gotta think about what is the make or break with that build
like what are the non negotiables
+3 fc? then u can forgo the int
the int is whatever, like what matters is that hte build is playable now
later on when u can afford it then u can justify it
hollow totem
yeah I am playing it now with 23 ranks in fc and doing fine but could be so much better with the extra ranks
hearty cypress
for sure
what id say abotu this is that u should think about how much ward do u really need to stay alive
and balance it between offense and defense
i like to be very precise wtih this to the point where i only go for more defense if i start dying
cuz to me thats when value of stats actually appear
hollow totem
that's a great way to look at it tbh
hearty cypress
thats just me
hollow totem
I mean I struggle a bit with T4 Julra but other than that so far I'm doing pretty good tbh
hearty cypress
like to me buying stats that u dont use is dog
would u be down to like screenshare wtih me
so i can show u how i do t4 julra
forest bear
t4 julra = dont stand in the bad or just facetank the dmg with the rate you gain ward 😁
hollow totem
t4 julra = dont stand in the bad or just facetank the dmg with the rate you gai...
yeah pretty much.
I've gotten ok ish at it
hollow totem
would u be down to like screenshare wtih me
maybe later today? Am gonna finish this run on dragon timeline and prob hop off and hit the gym
hearty cypress
checklists is like if you get the void pool or not
if you do, youre doing it wrong
the key to julra is actually stacking cdr
when she starts throwing static orb, she throws it 3x and each time gets bigger and more damage
u can take the first one i think, second and third does more damage. third one can one shot
the least damage she does to me is the ice blast
hollow totem
ok then yeah I don't quite understand all the mechanics just yet as she still does the void puddle sometimes
dusty steppe
Frost claw feels kinda clunky on early, but i Bet it getting better when levelling up
hearty cypress
or like, the last second pretty much
then switch back straight away
the void pool will only appear if you dont switch back right after you do the first time
you need to switch back immediately
or at least after the explosion happens
the second time she counts, this is usually when the 3 pillars already spawn to cast cross lightning
you want to switch as soon as she counts because you 'd want to kill those pillars
asap
hollow totem
oh ok that makes sense now then
hollow totem
cause I was like sometimes she follows me others she dont
hearty cypress
yea
you never want her to follow you
no matter what
adn u can also control where she stands
with julra u want to be right next to her
hollow totem
oh?
hearty cypress
yea cuz u can control where the positioning is
u know the rotating laser
u can manipulate where she stands
so that ure always in that gap
hollow totem
ah ok that makes sense thanks a bunch
hard orbit
for runemaster builds with twisted heart, would increased life help at all or is it not that important?
crystal jetty
whats top runemaster build right now?
glass canopy
whats top runemaster build right now?
bootynoodles dragoraths dagger build feels great
glass canopy
for runemaster builds with twisted heart, would increased life help at all or is...
other stats better, mana reg/ress
hard orbit
other stats better, mana reg/ress
wouldnt it be more ward though? (via twisted heart) or is it irrelevant
glass canopy
wouldnt it be more ward though? (via twisted heart) or is it irrelevant
u gain so much ward from other skills, u dont need hp pool
hearty cypress
better to look into armor/dr than hp
glass canopy
i have 1k hp and can raise 40k ward on bosses
hard orbit
u gain so much ward from other skills, u dont need hp pool
oooooh ok ok tyvm!
glass canopy
like radart said, armor, chance to reduce crits are way usefull
hard orbit
is hydrahedron still relevant or should I look for other stuff? kinda liked the spawn turret pew pew
crystal jetty
think plasma orbs or frostclaw stuff is better
north hollow
anyone here doing elemental frost claw build? i have to ask something
fiery vigil
anyone using crest of unity + 2 lighting crit idols?
honestly feels much better compared to gaze
jaunty vault
My runemaster just got into monoliths. Which build is easiest to start with? CoC Lightning blast, lightning claw + nova, or fire claw + static orb?
trail pollen
if a guide was last updated on march 4 2024 is it still relevant?
crimson raft
if a guide was last updated on march 4 2024 is it still relevant?
Generally speaking, yes, especially mage. Don't think we got something bugfixed that made power drop so it sucks.
craggy ruin
Is Glacier or Frost Claw better build for high monos?
crimson raft
Is Glacier or Frost Claw better build for high monos?
Alone, without more detail into how those skills are used in a build, i can't give a good answer, but a general answer is most likely Frost Claw.
craggy ruin
Alone, without more detail into how those skills are used in a build, i can't gi...
Sure, appreciate it's a vague question 😅
I've seen the Glacier build on maxroll for example but then a lot of FC builds using Dragorath's Claw etc, but all slightly different. Was just trying to figure out which direction to head in with my gear hunting!
crimson raft
If you want the most potential, it does seem that Frostclaw is the way to go. As for skill usage and fun i just like Glacier big chunky damage, buuuut it's gonna have a hard time to compete with frostclaw meta (various types)
craggy ruin
Yeah I've been using Glacier so far and it seems good but a little slow with the three chunks of damage; wasn't sure if other builds were significantly stronger to the point it's advised/"required" to use a meta build
Thanks for the insight 🙂
dusty steppe
yeah thats what i following
slate bone
Hey, does anyone know a good build thats still good at 1500+ corruption? i've been struggling at 500 and it seems like lots of guides are outdated
wheat raft
I just review all the mage specific uniques
lots of stuff for rune masters, not so much for the others
Elemental Nova tho
I wonder if there's a way to make it viable
sorcerer doesn't seems to be the right choice for it
bronze shore
ele nova have the spark charge node
spark charge deal alot of dmg when pair with enigma
wheat raft
ty
with crest of unity, it means elem nova gets all 3 elemental tags, correct ?
as in, it triggers all 3 of the dragon mage passive
vestal relic
I’m playing Allie’s spark charge cast on crit lightning blast runemaster that everyone says is bad.
Is there something i can switch too that isn’t super gear dependent while i wait for +3/4 frost claw relics to drop? I’m CoF only right now
sturdy summit
with crest of unity, it means elem nova gets all 3 elemental tags, correct ?
no, it does not get any new elemental tags beyond the ones it already has. Its damage becomes tri-elemental, not its tags.
vestal relic
Ultimately want to play NovaClaw but needs some gear
sturdy summit
as in, it triggers all 3 of the dragon mage passive
it continues to alternate between all the varieties of nova you've specced into. Each one has only one of the element tags, but they all deal tri-elemental damage.
jaunty vault
Why does the nova+claw build run Blood of the Exile?
wheat raft
it continues to alternate between all the varieties of nova you've specced into....
so I understand what's you're saying but that's such a disapointement
it doesn't mean anything in terms of gameplay
it does cold damage without having the cold tag ? that's bull.
thanks for the help, I guess ima try to find something else
sturdy summit
thanks for the help, I guess ima try to find something else
yeah, I spent so long trying to figure it out. Eventually asked about in the ask the devs channel, and got a clear answer: "increased cold damage" means actual damage. "with a cold spell" means tags. It's possible for a spell to deal damage, but not have the tag. For example, if you have a wand that gives you +void spell damage.
so crest of unity changes the flat damage for every nova, but otherwise leaves them unchanged.
wheat raft
makes no sense to me
okay
that makes me sad
got another one
I think you might have answered it already, but when in doubts all tht
when using crest of unity, despit being tri-elemental, elem nova still rotates the elem tags right ?
sturdy summit
yes
wheat raft
ty
sturdy summit
so the frost cascade that triggers on ice nova continues to trigger on ice nova
wheat raft
so that might still be good with dragon mage
especially if procced very often with frozen claw
sturdy summit
someone tested it, and found that when frost cascade triggers, the original nova is tri-elemental, but all the other ones that chain off of it are regular ice novas 🤣
wheat raft
uh ?
sturdy summit
give it a try
wheat raft
so it doesn't cycle after all ?
sturdy summit
it does
wheat raft
i'm not following
sturdy summit
ice nova is the cold version of elemental nova
wheat raft
ok
sturdy summit
in the ice nova side of the tree, there's a node that causes ice nova to trigger more ice novas, chaining off every enemy, and filling the screen with explosions
you know the node I mean?
sturdy summit
Freezing Cascade. When that triggers with crest of unity, the original frost nova is tri-elemental. You see it explode with all three colors at once, like it does before you spec it.
yes, it says it creates a cascade of freezing novas
wheat raft
so I'm not suprised it doesn't cycle in that particular case
sturdy summit
and crest of unity doesn't change them
sturdy summit
yes
they'll all look the same, tri-elemental, but their individual effects will trigger on their turn
wheat raft
so dragon mage will still procc 100% of the time for all elements if elem nova is procced often enough
I'll dig this way
sturdy summit
since this is a really complex interaction, if you keep digging, I'd love to hear about what you learn.
wheat raft
the game doesn't make sense so i'm not sure I'll learn much but will do
sturdy summit
when in doubt, always try to get experimental proof
stoic minnow
for novafrost claw build to proc the reowyn's frostguard you need Heo-Rah-Heo right? Why everytime i try to use the ability that the build told me to do, i get instead Gon-Heo-Heo?
shrewd rain
Does the shred cold resistance in "the age of winter" make a big difference? is it important to get?
Assuming i'm doing a fast hitting cold build.
stoic minnow
for novafrost claw build to proc the reowyn's frostguard you need Heo-Rah-Heo ri...
what is making the flame ward not proccing rah rune
crimson raft
Does the shred cold resistance in "the age of winter" make a big difference? is ...
Unless you're getting your elemental shred elsewhere, i'd say yes.
shrewd rain
I'm not, thanks. I also struggle with my resistances atm though..
rocky gale
how tf yall getting these LP twisted hearts with +3/4 Frost Claw, i can't get this crap to drop period, forget with LP good lawd
unique onyx
@rocky gale just play for 20 hours with 1k+ corruption
crimson raft
So much wasted suffixes 😄
inner tinsel
has anyone tried the maxroll frostbite frost claw runemaster build? perma cc seems good, just wonder how is the damage compare to lightning frost claw build
unique onyx
@inner tinsel damage is better
next lance
has anyone tried the maxroll frostbite frost claw runemaster build? perma cc see...
Yeah, cc doesn't matter if u can kill everything faster
unique onyx
@next lance good luck killing everything faster at 5k corr
inner tinsel
not going to push that high lol, im at 1200c with lightning frost claw build, i can do it pretty much effortlessly, just some bosses give me trouble
stiff crown
I think that's typical with most builds. Easy echoing, hard bossing
Unless it's a build that can just one shot a boss or something
inner tinsel
thats why i asked about damage of that frostbite build, if damage isnt that behind then perma freeze bosses seems op
stiff crown
Try it and let us know. Does seem OP in theory
inner tinsel
still farming the weapon lol pretty hard to find, sucks to be in cof i guess
wheat raft
trying to put together a sorc elem nova. Could smeone give me a feedback on the concept ?
silk pewterBOT
wheat raft
I'm not sure about crest of unity. The more I look at it, the less I understand how to use it.
rich badger
Does Oceareon have any benefit to a frostclaw build?
unique onyx
@inner tinsel just abuse snap freeze to perma freeze any boss on any rm build
next lance
<@456226577798135808> good luck killing everything faster at 5k corr
You don't need too
restive venture
I'm not sure about crest of unity. The more I look at it, the less I understand ...
Which part is confusing about crest of unity may i ask?
wheat raft
Which part is confusing about crest of unity may i ask?
the tri-elemental part I don't fully understand
I though it was about tagging elemental nova with all elem tags, but this isn't it
apparently it doesn't specifics nova nodes
and I don't think it adds all the elemental nova damages either
so idk what to make of it
restive venture
and I don't think it adds all the elemental nova damages either
Have u tried it?
wheat raft
I haven't this is purely theoricraft at this point
wheat raft
Have u tried it?
what do you think about all that ?
stiff crown
Does Oceareon have any benefit to a frostclaw build?
It’s just more damage if you got shock so yes
If you can slam a T7 in it
restive venture
what do you think about all that ?
I havent played much with it but what i should understand is that by default elemental nova will cycle its damage type from each element
With Crest of Unity, the damage should be like 3x per cast instead, dealing lightning fire and cold at the same time
At least theorywise
wheat raft
I see so it's indeed interesting
rich badger
It’s just more damage if you got shock so yes
I managed to get two of them
restive venture
Cuz if u look at element nova from LE tools, it does base damage of 6 lightning, 6 cold, 6 fire
sly nexus
still farming the weapon lol pretty hard to find, sucks to be in cof i guess
Swap faction 😉
vernal finch
anyone notice there tier 6 frost claw on sale that has same exact stat 100%, like there 5 of them, frost claw exalted selling 30m each, are there dupe bug?
restive venture
Cuz if u look at element nova from LE tools, it does base damage of 6 lightning,...
Which would mean each cast does 6 damage, if it becomes tri-elemental, it deals all the damage at the same time 18 damage in one cast
vernal finch
anyone notice there tier 6 frost claw on sale that has same exact stat 100%, lik...
like literally all their stat the same, from top to bottom, how i post screenshoot here
restive venture
Which would mean each cast does 6 damage, if it becomes tri-elemental, it deals ...
That also means that shred wouldnt help too much either, cuz you'd only benefit a little from it, but thats why there's the elemental penetration portion of crest of unity
vernal finch
its not rune of creation, cause there 5 of them, and there some forging potential, so 100% dupe bug?
restive venture
That also means that shred wouldnt help too much either, cuz you'd only benefit ...
as well as the infernal prism node
tired cape
Should I go for Fundamental Criterion with +2 Runic Invocation that I slammed fire pen on or +3 runic invo? For hydra build: https://i.imgur.com/GsjLjnM.png
wheat raft
ok this is dumb I'm sorry. My english is weak.
Chance to cast Elemental Nova when Hit -> when i'm hitted or when I hit stuff ?
restive venture
Probs when u are hit
tired cape
ok this is dumb I'm sorry. My english is weak.
`Chance to cast Elemental Nova wh...
When you hit somethin it says "on hit" and when you are hit it says "when hit"
wheat raft
ty
restive venture
ty
Tell me how it goes with the build, i did try Ele nova RM, it was fun but boss damage felt slow for my liking. Love the screenwide clear tho
wheat raft
I'm still unsure if I'll try
but I'll let you know
if you look at the mockup, it's possible to get close to 100% crit and 500% crit mult
that's about 50k damage per nova
it's from the calculator so I guess it doesn't account for monsters damage reductions and all that
and I need to test a few things
like
does unstable core works on triggered nova
restive venture
sadly no
restive venture
Oh direct cast, yes
wheat raft
I need to work on my reading skill before trying to theorycraft stuff
delicate path
Is elemental nova any fun? I got the helm the makes it all elements, was gonna give it a try soon
wheat raft
fun probably, efficient that's more difficult to say
restive venture
I need to work on my reading skill before trying to theorycraft stuff
Its alright, it'll improve overtime, no need to rush it
crimson raft
It looks fun, but i feel my eyes would be blinded after some time.
wheat raft
It looks fun, but i feel my eyes would be blinded after some time.
that's from all the fun
restive venture
Oh yeah @wheat raft Ward generation was another problem i came across when trying out the build
even with twisted heart
crimson raft
How can you have ward problems with RM AND twisted heart.
wheat raft
Oh yeah <@175281422247002112> Ward generation was another problem i came across ...
exsanguinous + last step + ward on missing life on gloves + twisted heart + all the wards on the passives tree when casting ?
restive venture
But i didnt try it extensively, so it could be fixed
wheat raft
I haven't do the math but it feels plenty
unique onyx
why would you use low life and twisted heart at the same time
stiff crown
You can’t run LL with Twisted
unique onyx
they don't work together
stiff crown
I think LL has a higher starting point , but Twisted has a higher cap for ward. IMO
crimson raft
TH with good passives and int and good castspeed gets me around 5000k'ish ward alone before frostguard and shield...but idk how fast that build casts (Vs RM lightningblast)
restive venture
How can you have ward problems with RM AND twisted heart.
The problem was more to Elemental Nova, it felt nicer to do the channeling version, cuz it was so much more dps, but that shuts down Twisted heart
Casting elemental nova directly felt slower than using FC or LB as well, but could just be just my own feeling. Like i said, i didnt try it extensively, just did it to try out the ability
crimson raft
oh yeah if you channel it only casts once
crimson raft
discofever! 😄
wheat raft
the frozen claw triggered version shouldn't have this problem, and wards will scale with the frozen claw cast speed
... probably
restive venture
the frozen claw triggered version shouldn't have this problem, and wards will sc...
Problem with Frost Claw version is that the nova is not the damage, but the spark charge applied through it
So its not fair to compare these builds together
wheat raft
sry could you rephrase ? i'm not sure I've understand
frost claw nova doesn't do damage, it's the spark that does ?
crimson raft
Depends on what you are comparing, like spark charges applied per second, should be comparable?
restive venture
frost claw nova doesn't do damage, it's the spark that does ?
Yeah, through Fragment of the Enigma offhand catalyst
You can see the node on elemental nova Spark Charges
wheat raft
I see it
restive venture
Depends on what you are comparing, like spark charges applied per second, should...
I guess thats fair too
stiff crown
It does insignificant damage compared to Spark Charge
wheat raft
what I was looking for so far is just a way to trigger nova with it
stiff crown
FC is just for debuffs and casting Nova. Nova is just for applying Spark Charge for damage
restive venture
Does Spark Charges debuff on the enemy stack? I kinda thought they'd just blow up 1 by 1 actually, tho sometimes i do notice them exploding rather quickly in rapid succession
wheat raft
I see
crimson raft
I haven't tried ele nova spark charge, but to me it seems overkill in clear. You already have a good AoE from spark charges in Enigma, do you really need even moar?
stiff crown
are you familiar with that version of the build ? FC -> nova -> spark charge
That’s the meta build. I don’t use it though so I’m not 100% familiar
wheat raft
That’s the meta build. I don’t use it though so I’m not 100% familiar
I'm looking at what kind of damage I could get with a crit version of nova
calculator says 60k per nova. It probably doesn't account for target defences
stiff crown
You’ll get good damage, just not Enigma powered Spark Charge good
crimson raft
Wasn't the meta Frostclaw -> Dragorathclaw for LB->spark charge?
wheat raft
how far is it to the sparke damage version ?
restive venture
I'm looking at what kind of damage I could get with a crit version of nova
One thing you need to keep in mind is the Additive Damage
stiff crown
Wasn't the meta Frostclaw -> Dragorathclaw for LB->spark charge?
I think it shifted to Laddle
restive venture
Currently you have no access to flat additive damage
based on your mock-up build at least
wheat raft
ok
crimson raft
I think it shifted to Laddle
Oh yeah yeah forgot about that too. I just run direct cast LB on my ladle\sparkcharge build
restive venture
Oh yeah yeah forgot about that too. I just run direct cast LB on my ladle\sparkc...
I used to use that on early monolith, how does it fare against the FC build? I kinda want to switch back to see how it goes after having a bit more gear, just to play around with it a bit
crimson raft
IDK, i haven't tried any FC build personally as i just...i don't feel the skill itself fun
restive venture
Quite the hassle to switch around tho
One thing keeping me from going back to the LB is, im gonna miss the disco rave in my screen
crimson raft
Well with enough cast speed you'll feel like you have channneled lightninblast 😄
insert SW emperor meme
soft elm
Hi guys, +x Frost claw can only be dropped on the relic?
crimson raft
Hi guys, +x Frost claw can only be dropped on the relic?
yes
restive venture
I liked running it with the frost wall and it also casts the lb for me, just put it down and run through a group of mobs, then all of them exploding as i walk away
restive venture
Is it good damage-wise? Idk, i had fun with it at least
crimson raft
I liked running it with the frost wall and it also casts the lb for me, just put...
^ That's basically what i do, and swoosh with flamerush
restive venture
^ That's basically what i do, and swoosh with flamerush
I went with the teleport node on runic invo instead
Going through walls is fun
crimson raft
IDK i haven't really played more then 300c, and damage is good, but i can feel i need to get better gear to scale it more for anything serious. Nothing is killing me ofc, tanking everything, but i like stuff to die fast 😛
And i just don't wanna farm gear forevrrr
restive venture
And i just don't wanna farm gear forevrrr
I mean nothing too much to do in the endgame besides pushing corruption, and min maxing builds, which i guess would mean farming gear
crimson raft
Yeah, but i just reroll when i feel like i've gone x hours without getting\finding a single upgrade.
I have...many alts 😛 But only one lv 100 RM, that's my sparky
restive venture
I have like 5 other alts, and after playing all of them
I noticed that i like seeing my screen full of explosions instead
crimson raft
Have you tried Glacier? It got really chunky dmg. But idk how it actually does in monos. But leveling with it is a blast!
restive venture
Have you tried Glacier? It got really chunky dmg. But idk how it actually does i...
Only when i was leveling only, yeah
Never tried in monos
I mean if i could make the glacier explode screenwide, then maybe i'd give it a go
maybe stacking all "increased area with area spell" might be fun xd
crimson raft
And then reverse it to get the big one first!
sick falcon
is disintigrate better with lighting or fire? also I do have the offhand catalyst that gives me disintigrate damage for my crit chance
barren pawn
is disintigrate better with lighting or fire? also I do have the offhand catalys...
either works
realistically it depends on if you have gear for pen / increased damage or not
next lance
is disintigrate better with lighting or fire? also I do have the offhand catalys...
Idk about you, but I love to see things on fire
sick falcon
how much pen do i want
rich badger
Idk about you, but I love to see things on fire
especially houses
next lance
:0
rich badger
I mean what
next lance
especially houses
Crazy talk
barren pawn
how much pen do i want
around 20 ish % or more
twilit stag
Have you tried Glacier? It got really chunky dmg. But idk how it actually does i...
Glacier is great for leveling, and what I used. I'd love to try out n ice mage Glacier end game build
barren pawn
10 or so from a weapon, 10 or so from a passive
next lance
Houses are like gold now
restive venture
Houses are like gold now
good conductor for lightning
sick falcon
around 20 ish % or more
thanks
earnest patrol
whats the best runemaster build going on rn?
sick falcon
seems like anything revolving around frost claw
earnest patrol
man i cant find any +lvl to frost claw so i was looking for something different
soft elm
man i cant find any +lvl to frost claw so i was looking for something different
same, 100h and never dropped
earnest patrol
i did find some blue and yellow items with +1 frost claw
twilit stag
same, 100h and never dropped
Fix your loot filter then?
earnest patrol
but no exhalted
soft elm
i'm struggling finding upgrades, i die a lot from orobyss and pushing corruption is a pain
soft elm
Fix your loot filter then?
nono it's ok, i check it every day
soft elm
but no exhalted
this
soft elm
actually i have like 40k dps on frost claw, 75% res all around but i struggle with orobyss
earnest patrol
you can only find +lvl to frostclaw from shattering correct? and not from random drops
soft elm
100h and still i have a yellow amulet cuz nothing interesting
next lance
good conductor for lightning
Shocking Golden wand of the house fire
broken eagle
hey guys, a good build to push corruption with Sorcerer?
something good for bosses and cleaning monoliths , i was trying meteor and fireball but is kinda meh
neon lynx
you can only find +lvl to frostclaw from shattering correct? and not from random...
you can find all shards are random drops as well
its just rare
earnest patrol
really i thought +lvl to anything skill shards dont drop
twilit stag
you can only find +lvl to frostclaw from shattering correct? and not from random...
You can get it from affix drops, it's just rare af
neon lynx
they do
earnest patrol
gotcha thanks
twilit stag
They will be dark orange
earnest patrol
so will the blessings skill of knowledge help with the drop rate?
the blesing u get from last ruin
increase skill specifc shard drop rate 20-30%
twilit stag
so will the blessings skill of knowledge help with the drop rate?
Should really just throw a loot filter and shatter
twilit stag
And ideally go for exalted anyways, since crafting can only get you up to +2
jaunty vault
Why does the nova+claw runemaster build run Blood of the Exile?
lean elbow
hey would you guys reccomend sorcerer or runmaster for a elemental nova frost claw build?
restive venture
Why does the nova+claw runemaster build run Blood of the Exile?
More Intelligence, mainly for that
rich badger
Is Oceareon useful for Spark Charge RM?
sick falcon
does the type of catalyst matter when using the runes of ascendance? or the value of the catalyst
dusty steppe
ngl guys, my gear is trash but ignite frost claw is insane
glass canopy
Dragorath dagger runemaster rullz
neon lynx
Depp why do you think the wild magic build is trash
cuz aint it just random innvocations?
dusty steppe
Dragorath dagger runemaster rullz
im not there yet but it still rock
rich badger
ngl guys, my gear is trash but ignite frost claw is insane
I have to be honest, I didn't enjoy it - ignite is just overall the weakest affliction
200 stacks equates to like...3% off a boss.
neon lynx
that build uses firestarter so u can sustain right
da heck
that thing only has 3 spell damage?
🤣
neon lynx
it still only has 3 base spell damge lol
dusty steppe
yes?
broken eagle
hey guys, a good build to push corruption with Sorcerer?
something good for bosses and cleaning monoliths , i was trying meteor and fireball but is kinda meh
twilit stag
cuz aint it just random innvocations?
Well yea, but that's half the fun
hollow arrow
do you spawn a big aoe
do you spawn frostguard
or die?
the choice is so random!
twilit stag
but like 90% of innvocations are bad
I'd say like 60%
neon lynx
every high end build is just using runic for frostguard
or plasma
nothin else
so sure it can be fun
but that doesnt make it good lol
crystal nova
as long as shatter strike exist in my hearth something else will exist
twilit stag
It's not min maxxed but it can still push corruption not too badly
neon lynx
make a recording when it makes it past 1k and maybe ill rethink my opinion
neon lynx
but in the current state of the game, if a build isnt breezing through 1k+
its bad imo
🤷
twilit stag
Agree to disagree on that
hollow arrow
welp few hours of playing this today then we download dragons dogma 2
and play that for a few days
neon lynx
new league reveal in a few hours 👀
simple stump
is ti bad to pick multiple passives to invest in in the same tier?
soft elm
i feel kinda stucked with the build, i can't drop a decent scepter and i failed my frozen ire 3lp yesterday, dunno what to do, maybe change build?
With cof is like no sense hunting a frozen ire 2lp minimum
misty turtle
Anybody know's where "Spidersilk Sash" drops? or just keep running monoliths to get what I need (Ofc with belt drops)
barren pawn
I made my disintegrate build waaaay tankier
And a bit stronger
Will share update Inna sec
silk pewterBOT
misty turtle
There are no targeted base drop areas
oh, good to know, so the only farmable items are set or unique items that drops from bosses?
barren pawn
Tweaks can be made. It's not finalized
Ideally I'd get NY same gloves but experimental woth the hp ward affix
I'm on my phone so excuse the typos
twilit stag
I would still drop one point from shock chance and add one point to MORE damage for dis
barren pawn
Shock is damage for me now
The more stacks of shock, the more damage I deal
What I need is a double t5 6 7 disintegrate flame ward relic
twilit stag
I really like it though and think low health is a good idea
twilit stag
The more stacks of shock, the more damage I deal
How so? Forgive my ignorance
barren pawn
That really opens sh1t up
barren pawn
How so? Forgive my ignorance
Passive
safe grail
shock is affected by his passive as well as adding shred
twilit stag
Oh from the sorc tree
Do you think your passive points are better in scholar than in elemantalist? 84 health doesn't seem much
barren pawn
any and all flat HP is bigger than just what i get.
Sicne hybrid hp, and hp %
I have a total of around 55% total HP increase
so that 84 is technically closer to 120
twilit stag
Makes sense
upbeat hollow
what's the purpose of going over 100% cooldown reduction on the volcanic frenzy node on volcanic orb?
safe grail
prob better on a rm
can't get meteor on RM u vegene
neon lynx
you never specified what u were casting on the crits
neon lynx
kyo on crit
hollow arrow
enemies take physical and mental dmg
when kyo talks about build
lmao
i could totally do a LL build tho with the gloves that I got
slap on that chest for ll build
barren pawn
yall really need to stop fekkin with me
hollow arrow
lmao
upbeat hollow
yall really need to stop fekkin with me
not sure what that even is
stiff crown
but in the current state of the game, if a build isnt breezing through 1k+
Breezing through 350c tanking poison hits like nothing
neon lynx
Breezing through 350c tanking poison hits like nothing
Are you lb too?!
stiff crown
If you’re not LB, you’re wrong
hollow arrow
kek
neon lynx
But do you even have 700% cast speed?
stiff crown
Cast speed and DR are the only stats I have
barren pawn
its bad imo
such a sh1t take
neon lynx
Oh whale
barren pawn
If it can clear corr 400 - 600, its fine. Just because its not as overtuned as some of the easy mode builds doesnt mean its bad lmao
neon lynx
Yea sure
barren pawn
" its not brokenly op so its bad!!!! "
neon lynx
I shall
hollow arrow
i mean everybody got a right to they own opinion, no need to bash others over it
just stick with yours and move on lmao
barren pawn
The whole point of an ARPG is trying out, testing, and playing / theorycrtafting new builds.
neon lynx
That’s the point for you
barren pawn
Limiting yourself to only the top performers defeats the whole spirit of the genre
Builds, loot for those builds, these are the driving purpose of ARPGs
twilit stag
Who's lame and uses swords lol
strong wharf
LF a Mage high corrup for a better chance to loot +3/4 frost claw on relic
quick herald
Playing nova spark fc. Was wondering how accurate the crit strike chance calc on character sheet is? Says I have 40% but feels luike I 100% crit
unborn hamlet
There is crit strike chance flat
Crit strike chance multi
Crit spell multi
Not sure if the sheet calcs that together
barren pawn
Not sure if the sheet calcs that together
standard crit chance affects spell crit.
Flat crit affects everything except for crit mult
gamblers gives +100% flat crit, which ends up more than 5x your crit values
unborn hamlet
Yea but don't you lose the effect the moment you crit, and then you have reduced crit rate
barren pawn
Yea but don't you lose the effect the moment you crit, and then you have reduced...
just for gamblers, other stuff has flat crit on it
supple narwhal
I am a Runemaster, and I got an amulet that gives me 50% elemental dmg and 97% lightning dmg, are those stats better than gaining 7% crit chance through another amulet?
stiff crown
It really depends on your existing stats. Kinda hard to say
Like how much increased damage do you currently have? What is your current crit multiplier and chance? Etc
sturdy summit
I am a Runemaster, and I got an amulet that gives me 50% elemental dmg and 97% l...
if you already have a lot of increased damage, more of it isn't as good as crit chance, as long as you're not capped on crit
supple narwhal
if you already have a lot of increased damage, more of it isn't as good as crit ...
ill have 37% crit chance, got 257% crit multiplier. Currently I got 318% lightning dmg , but with the 7% more crit chance, ill have 171% lighting dmg instead, and also -50% fire and cold dmg
sturdy summit
ill have 37% crit chance, got 257% crit multiplier. Currently I got 318% lightni...
if you try wearing both items, which one makes the dps number on your main skill higher?
supple narwhal
if you try wearing both items, which one makes the dps number on your main skill...
you mean the dps that is showing when I hover on my frostclaw? the one with 318% lightning dmg
sturdy summit
yeah
can you see the difference when you swap? it's just an estimate, but it can be useful when it works
supple narwhal
yeah the difference is like 150ish dmg
but you gotta consider the crit multiplier though along with the increased crit chance no?
sturdy summit
it ought to be factoring that in. crit and crit multiplier can be averaged out as a source of More Damage
if you have 100% crit and 200% multiplier, you have 100% more damage
unborn hamlet
very based to admit that
a lot of people will just talk out of their ass instead
hollow arrow
lmao
hearty cypress
ill have 37% crit chance, got 257% crit multiplier. Currently I got 318% lightni...
while numbers like that is good tbh id think about whether im one shotting mobs or not
and how long it takes to kill mobs
the thing wtih fc spark is that there's already delay in terms of the speed of which the spell hits
and nova doesnt actually deal that much damage so you really need to be applying all ailments + ramping up
also like, cast speed technically means damage too
but obviously in fc's case its limited to how much you can cast since it cost mana
so all these things actually relate to each other in some ways
sharp cradle
Do "Chance to apply Frostbite on hit with Cold Skills" apply to Frost Claw? Since it is a spell? Or there is no distinction in Last Epoch
hearty cypress
Do "Chance to apply Frostbite on hit with Cold **Skills**" apply to Frost Claw? ...
literalklky any skill that has tag 'cold, spell'
spells are skills
errant plank
ive hunderds of items in lmy stash 😒
unborn hamlet
imagine keeping all the garbage
i only keep my failed slams(to remind myself of the pain) BiS T7 stats for my build for slams, and all the random 3-4LP garbage i cant use cos its character bound stash
😂
i have 7 stash pages, and 1 of em is just full of keys
unborn hamlet
i mean if u got nothing better,
barren pawn
i keep pretty much everything that my filter pings
errant plank
i thing i have and i dont use runic evoc so.... 😄 But i got to say i kinda lost atm on items, values, crafting mecanisms... so i read stuff but tend to keep waaaayyy more items than needed. Needless to say that my filter must be pretty bad as well 😄
hasty roost
Nobody’s posted in 10 minutes, so I’ll fill the gap with a random question. What are examples of useful uniques for a cold crit build?
unborn hamlet
snowdrifts and frostbite shackles are always good,
hasty roost
Too broad a question
Frost claw, ice barrage and glacier.
hasty roost
snowdrifts and frostbite shackles are always good,
Frostbite gear isn’t bad, but I’m not focusing on frostbite as a source of significant damage at the moment.
crystal nebula
Got to lvl 80 with a frost claw lvling build - want to respec into one of the lightning ones that uses nova and such. Any good **written **guides out there?
hearty cypress
Nobody’s posted in 10 minutes, so I’ll fill the gap with a random question. Wha...
all uhave to do is just literally sit on epochtools
there arent that many items in teh game
hollow arrow
frostbite gear sells for some good money rn
which is nice
how sorc going @safe grail
quick herald
crit strike chance or cast speed on gloves for nova spark fc rm?
safe grail
how sorc going <@177205113046302720>
toying w/ a lot of things but i may have found something w/ fireball lol
hollow arrow
lmao nice
safe grail
its fun exploring the spec tho
hollow arrow
ye
i been messing around with warpath vk
doing different stuff for warpath
and i made a LL warpath, which can survive but doesn't do enough dmg
unless you perfectly get all the gear right affixes n stuff
too much work
if only healing hands worked with each hit of warpath
lmao
errant plank
ok ive 2 keys for soulfire rn, level 79, will go for Tier2... lets get gamblers 😉
quick herald
Wait do I have 100% crit strike rate on spells if I have 51% critical strike chance AND 61% Spell critical strike chance?
lightning frost claw sure seems to be critting 100%..
errant plank
Wait do I have 100% crit strike rate on spells if I have 51% critical strike cha...
I understood from chat this is how it works, you sum it up
quick herald
Ahhaa so I'm basically at 112% crit rate right now? And thats with a 3% prismatic gaze...
errant plank
@barren pawn : Would you share your loot filter with me ? 😄
barren pawn
Wait do I have 100% crit strike rate on spells if I have 51% critical strike cha...
Still wonder how this affect disintegrate with ingvars
No shot is my ingvars over 2k CC
Itd be way stronger
quick herald
Thoughts on stat allocation? Obviously still need LP and better slams, and Ukheiros..
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKPqzanQ
silk pewterBOT
twilit stag
I understood from chat this is how it works, you sum it up
Uhhh I don't believe that's how it works?
errant plank
Uhhh I don't believe that's how it works?
You know better 🙂 This is what i understood, go ahead 😉
twilit stag
I may have just been misunderstanding it the whole time though
quick herald
Yea no just tried it out with shooting fireballs and it's not 100%
royal gull
Ok gonna give Sorcerer a try this time just to see if Frozen Orb Fantasy works out for me
safe grail
that isn't how crit works lol
if you have 61% spell crit
anything w/ a spell tag uses that crit
Critical strike chance as a stat on the stat sheet is for abilities w/ no tag
twilit stag
That's what I've bought lol
quick herald
So is it useless to stack a hybrid of spell crit AND normal crit?
safe grail
when you stack normal crit
quick herald
Or is spell crit normal crit + any additional spell crit?
safe grail
it increases your spell crit
quick herald
ye alright
safe grail
however
spell crit as an affix
has a heavier weight
you can get more of it per affix than reg crit
dusty steppe
Question about Frost claw veterans, im following BootyNoodles ignite frost claw runemaster and my q is: why he not roll int on items (most items dont have int), cuz isnt int = dmg?
safe grail
ignite doesnt scale w/ int
dusty steppe
Ah ok
hearty cypress
ignite doesnt scale w/ int
we had htis conversation yesterday about frostbite scaling with int
cause int raises elemental damage
i dont even think thats true
safe grail
where's the elemental scaling from int coming from?
safe grail
where are we getting the notion that int raises elemental dmg?
is there a passive node im forgetting?
hearty cypress
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its just the idea that int appears in every spell as scaling tag
ahve u checked? im not in the game
safe grail
you can't ctrl alt it in game, but LE Tools shows it having only a DoT tag
thus can only scale w/ increase cold dmg, ele dmg, and dot dmg
hearty cypress
@sturdy summit
i was losing my mind when i literally said that int is useless
and someone said otherwise
sturdy summit
and someone said otherwise
oh yeah?
hearty cypress
u dont remember?
when theyt said that in frost claw,the frostbite scales with int
sturdy summit
I remember. Have you found your mind?
hearty cypress
frostbite damage*
sturdy summit
I tested it. It does.
safe grail
then that's a bug
cause it's not supposed to
Frostbite does not have int scaling tags
only DoT
sturdy summit
that's what I thought, too. It's very clearly increasing the damage when I change my int. I was able to get a reliable test going, where I only applied 1 frostbite stack
safe grail
i assume we are only referencing the increase frostbite from the node
?
not from gear?
speaking about artor's sceptre.
inland falcon
FEllow mages
quick herald
Heard of a guy that swapped prismatic gaze to Crest of unity for better dmg on nova spark frost claw RM build, but still held 100% crit.. Is that even possible withou double crit rolls on any non-uniques and on all LP rolls?
inland falcon
I j ust realized there are only exiled mages, not rogues or anyone else. Whats up with that??
sturdy summit
i assume we are only referencing the increase frostbite from the node
I took off all my gear and applied one stack of frostbite using cold lightning blast. It was ticking for 30-33 damage. Adding 20 int increased that by about 3.
barren pawn
@safe grail so disintegrate has the int scaling tag despite being a dot
unless you are talking about the OTHER dot
safe grail
<@177205113046302720> so disintegrate has the int scaling tag despite being a d...
frostbite is an ailment that specifically only has the DoT tag
barren pawn
fire / shock / poison etc
sturdy summit
<@177205113046302720> so disintegrate has the int scaling tag despite being a d...
what was actually said was that frostbite that gets applied by an int-scaling ability gets int-scaling.
safe grail
that'ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss fkn wild.
barren pawn
So yeh, youre talking about ailments then
sturdy summit
so I tested it with lightning blast because that got me consistent numbers
safe grail
yeah
hearty cypress
<@177205113046302720> so disintegrate has the int scaling tag despite being a d...
thats fine if its implied
barren pawn
afaik they do NOT
sturdy summit
I thought they didn't either, but the frostbite tick is definitely increasing with int
safe grail
I took off all my gear and applied one stack of frostbite using cold lightning b...
Sorry to tag you, but @viscid laurel does this sound like an intended interaction?
twilit stag
afaik they do NOT
He's saying empirically testing it, it does
safe grail
I thought they didn't either, but the frostbite tick is definitely increasing wi...
you're positive you only had int added on right? no other dmg
viscid laurel
Skills inherit damage modifiers from the skill that inflicts them, including increased damage from attributes
sturdy summit
you're positive you only had int added on right? no other dmg
yep. I also tested adding increased spell damage, and it I could see that it made no change.
sturdy summit
Skills inherit damage modifiers from the skill that inflicts them, including inc...
Thank you!
safe grail
Skills inherit damage modifiers from the skill that inflicts them, including inc...
ailments though?
viscid laurel
yup
sturdy summit
so 4% increased damage per int, even though it's not in the character sheet.
safe grail
yeah
twilit stag
So in this case, disintegrate dots do actually scale with int too
Thanks for clearing that up Kain
safe grail
i think it's best if we say
twilit stag
Wild interaction tbh
viscid laurel
Happy to. Happy theorycrafting with that knowledge!
safe grail
Ailment dots applied by abilities
is probably the correct way to say it colloquially '
barren pawn
time to create a disintegrate that stacks shock and fire with int
safe grail
WAIT