🧙┃mage

[sturdy summit]

Even if int is only suboptimal for dots, I need to understand it correctly before I say it's useless for dot damage.

[neon lynx]

which im assuming ur looking at, havent seen anything else running exiles

[shell fern]

some int is good because of ward retention etc but i wouldnt stack it on gear.

[autumn crypt]

Yeah playing lightning claw build atm

[hearty cypress]

@sturdy summit u can say that its rather a segue to what it can contribute

[shell fern]

on my frostbite build my int is only from passives

[neon lynx]

yeah, int is better than any of the other things u get from those boots

[crystal hollow]

What corruption are you at?

[neon lynx]

• theyre hard to get LP for the int/movespeed slam

[hearty cypress]

more about what stat youd rather have compared to int

lets put it htis way right

what stat u rather have than int

[autumn crypt]

500 killing mobs are easy it's just the bosses takes some time

[sturdy summit]

freeze rate multiplier

[hearty cypress]

than the fkn damage overtime itself

like wtf

[crystal hollow]

kk. I'm trying to shift into that version. Still playing frostbite frostclaw atm

[hearty cypress]

u think measly 400% is even worth talkin about

[sturdy summit]

with frostbite, int competes with freeze rate multiplier

[hearty cypress]

thats three pieces btw

yea

so its dog

done

[shell fern]

are they that hard to get, i have plenty with 1lp and maybe 1 or 2 with 2lp

[hearty cypress]

any other dog takes or what lol

[proper hawk]

nobody was arguing that ele damage over time isn't better, it very obviously is, it was a question about the mechanics of how the game works, not what is worth building for or not

[neon lynx]

dunno actually. just assumed since they drop from 1 specific arena boss dont they?

[hearty cypress]

im aware of what

[neon lynx]

so not even guaranteed to get a chance every run

[sturdy summit]

thank you :D

[hearty cypress]

and i said this again, for the 3rd time, that i just cant believe people talk about that amount of scaling

[shell fern]

oh i thought someone was talking about the blood of the exile boots.

[hearty cypress]

on something so insignificant

[neon lynx]

thats what they should run xd

they suggested the arena boots

thats what i meant is hard to get with LP

[shell fern]

personally i like telf'uns mirages

those need 2lp to beat out 1lp exiles tho

[neon lynx]

theyre all largely the same

find a pair of boots with int on em

slam more int into em

lol

[dusty steppe]

Does FC RM requires any uniques or just nice to had?

[proper hawk]

because knowing how the game actually functions is important, even if in this particular case it's not a big deal and makes little difference

[sturdy summit]

depends what build you're doing. FC has like a dozen different builds

[hearty cypress]

300 uniques

[autumn crypt]

Just switched from CoF to MG a couple of days ago, so I'm still building up rep to buy 1-2 LP items. Couldn't use my CoF gears but here's my build so far. Tempted to change gloves to swadling

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXzb2wwQ

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (68)

General:

▸ Health: 1,070, Regen: 34/s
▸ Mana: 281, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 430%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 11 Dex / 100 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 64% / 40% / 64% / 51% / 45% / 80% / 78%
▸ EHP: 1,493 / 1,228 / 1,493 / 1,454 / 1,184 / 1,540 / 1,540

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 214
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,991)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 31%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Rush (23)
• Elemental Nova (26)
• Runic Invocation (26)
• Frost Claw (24)
• Flame Ward (23)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Unstable Core
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Julra's Stardial
• Ferebor's Persistence
• Omnis
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

[shell fern]

@sturdy summit stat priority for frostbite is: chance to frostbite on armor and helmet, rings ele dot or frm, gloves and amulet armor shred, cast speed weapon and relic(relic +4 frostclaw if u need the points)

[hearty cypress]

swap out julra for ocearon
swap out prismatic

be a giga chad

that rm build has to be the funniest build to me

[dusty steppe]

Prob this https://youtu.be/2gzxZEEAWs8?si=1fnTG7Ct8vjfNnlv

[hearty cypress]

that when u get the gear, its still bad to play cus how expensive it is

[proper hawk]

you sadly need prismatic for the frost claw nova enigma build since you can't cap crit off closed circuit and need base crit

[autumn crypt]

Ocearon even if I play lightning element?

[hearty cypress]

r u serious?

[royal dock]

so who got extra head / relic / body with frostclaws? >_>

[hearty cypress]

ocearon gives u 10% more damage when u have 10 stacks of shock

[proper hawk]

oceareon is generically more damage as long as you shock, so its good

[shell fern]

and julra gives u 48 flat dmg on cooldown

[sturdy summit]

good good, that lines up well with what I've already written. I'm not going to be suggesting people get +4 frostclaw, because my intent is to write for players who haven't reached 300 corruption yet, and farming that affix is ass.

[hearty cypress]

what 48 flat dmg from

[proper hawk]

the int that gets tripled on julra's stardial

[hearty cypress]

farming that affix has nothign to do wtih 300 corr

its literally just farming sanctum t3/t4 full clear

which is a whole lot easier than 300 corr

[autumn crypt]

But julra has spell damage % tho

[sturdy summit]

it doesn't, 300 corruption is how I define my target audience.

[hearty cypress]

for 4 seconds

then 8 second cooldown losing all that stats

[proper hawk]

i wasnt arguing in favor of it, i was just explaining what was meant

[sturdy summit]

what's the deal with sanctum and frost claw relic? I thought bastion gambler was what someone was recommending to farm that.

[hearty cypress]

idk if people understand this but u dont even need that spell damage

when ur issue is literally mana

when people use static shell but dont want to use ferebor

its so funy to me

u legit dont need more damage on that runemaster build

u can reduce the amount of ward u have and pivot towards more consistent dr

and still be good

[autumn crypt]

I know @hearty cypress you want to help but you need to learn how to chat properly and not be the who knows it all guy out there. This chat is for inquiring and not to belittle people.

[proper hawk]

the combination of inc spell damage and int might be more damage than oceareon, but youd have to run numbers on it. I would assume oceareon is probably better given the cooldown on stardial, but maybe

[proper hawk]

This, thank you

[hearty cypress]

ocearon is better

[neon lynx]

hes played 4500 hours. you have to respect his wrong info

[hearty cypress]

pip ran it

[neon lynx]

/s

[hearty cypress]

cuz i told him to

[hearty cypress]

im not trying to help, im just giving my opinion

[sturdy summit]

give your opinion with less angst

[shell fern]

its classic radart, just ignore him 80% of the time.

[hearty cypress]

idk what angst man, maybe crass, but no ill intent

take it however u want

afaik im just talking about the game

[trim jasper]

🗿

[royal dock]

anyone that has a loot filler for frost claw skills on gear laying around?

[stiff crown]

Papi, teach me that patch 0.0.1 tech that isn’t relevant anymore

[neon lynx]

i suggest you play lightning blast mage

RM is bad

i know everything

[sturdy summit]

that's like, just a single rule, not an entire filter?

[proper hawk]

man radart is really reminding me of sam'joko (i think that was his name?) anyone remember him from back in beta before the MoM/endurance fix?

[neon lynx]

i have 9000% cast speed

[shell fern]

yes, radart was around at the same time

[hearty cypress]

ive been around before sam jok even played this game

[sturdy summit]

but sir, lightning blast is good on RM!

[hearty cypress]

0.7.3

[shell fern]

i hope gnasher would come back, atleast he knows his stuff

[royal dock]

For right now I can switch back I just need get lucky for one roll of it or so. So far I am unlucky to find one

[proper hawk]

did he leave the server? it says he only joined the server late feb

[stiff crown]

2+2 is the only way to get 4. If you don’t agree with me, then you’re bad, and you should feel bad for being wrong.

[shell fern]

i think he left at some point in 0.9.2

from what i know went onto play some other game apparently

[proper hawk]

oh huh ok, weird i dont remember seeing his name before

[shell fern]

gnasher was one of those mana stacking sorc advocates with sam joko before rm

[neon lynx]

i just wanna see some actual high end game play of his secret hidden tech lightning blast build

other than that 2 minute julra kill he has

[proper hawk]

yeah gnasher seemed pretty cool

[neon lynx]

😂

[shell fern]

but he didnt quit and cry like sam did, he went onto conquer with rm aswell. pushed it to 6k corr or smth

[hearty cypress]

but fyi

the thing about that mana sorc build got really vague because if you watch the video, he cant even really walk around maps anymore

[shell fern]

he was nice yea

[hearty cypress]

he literally has to snipe stuff 30m away

and take it as u will

but when u cheese the corruption to that point

do u really belong in that corruption

?

[royal dock]

What else give mana back other than runebolt?

[hearty cypress]

cause its not that hard to just rush to objectives

u can actually make a whole ass build that does that

and just cheese orobyss with shrine buffs etc

im not saying what gnassher did wasnt good

[shell fern]

yeah and the next patch we had rm who could just roll his face across the keyboard as long as he had cfc and perma flameward and clear same corruption with ease

[hearty cypress]

im saying that the context within corruption itself is just so weird

[shell fern]

powercreep is real

[proper hawk]

man i miss this discord server back in LE beta

[stiff crown]

This the same guy from the other day! The guy that has some secret tech from 0.0.1 that makes him better than everyone else but won’t post his build, but acts superior to everyone else

[hearty cypress]

but rm also incredibly overtuned

i think thats just factual at htis point

[shell fern]

well atleast now they changed the scaling to actually scale with corruption and less with modifiers which is nice

[hearty cypress]

yea but uc an agree wtih my point right

regarding how gnassher actually play corruption

he doesnt kill stuff

he literally cant be touched once

if he does, he dies

its not real representation of how good the build is

[stiff crown]

#🧙┃mage message

[hearty cypress]

bcause he doesnt tank harder than what my build was

or didnt*

my build tanked way better than his in that patch

[nimble rover]

we got it. you are god gamer. can you stop selfpromoting pls?

[cloud vault]

back in my day!

[stiff crown]

#🧙┃mage message

[sick falcon]

i got a unique that empties my mana into ward everytime my mana full charges. Thinking about using the mana regen passive on the disintigrate tree to dump loads of mana. is there a benefit to generating that much ward other than tankiness? Like can I spend ward for some power?

[shell fern]

i can't remember what your build was back then i remember you promoting your youtube vid in ingame global chat, thats why i blocked you because i got tired of it lol

[neon lynx]

best part is dude complains so much that FC uses so many legendaries, then u go export his character and hes in full legendary gear xd

[hearty cypress]

yea id ont even know who you are/were tbh

[shell fern]

[twilit stag]

No

[sturdy summit]

although an item exists that lets you spend ward for some power, the thing you want with that much ward is tankiness.

[shell fern]

one of the hundreds of randoms you argued with ingame.

[proper hawk]

not really, tbh i personally consider that modifier to be more a drawback than anything, generally the desirable thing about that sceptre is the large amount of flat lightning spell damage you can get out of it AFAIK

[safe grail]

mom dad, can you guys stop fighting?

T_T

[hearty cypress]

culnivar is only good for smite build

but then again like

im not even sure, i feel like ladle is good but it takes time for it to be good

[proper hawk]

wouldnt you just use ladle since you get so much flat from devotion?

[cold sand]

how to scale spell builds using ladle?

[hearty cypress]

hmm

im talking about the whole no mana thing

[cold sand]

can't seem to get enough flat dmg

[hearty cypress]

thats actually attractive for that smite build

[proper hawk]

oh thats actually an interesting point

im pretty sure you still go with ladle though

[hearty cypress]

cause youd rather have no mana right

[safe grail]

1st off, this isn't google. Don't come in asking a question like it's google, shts annoying.

2nd off, to scale w/ ladle depends on your build.

[hearty cypress]

sceptres are no slouch man

[hearty cypress]

who asked oml

[safe grail]

uh @cold sand did lol

[hearty cypress]

touche

[sturdy summit]

wow, you just pinpointed what's so annoying about that style of question. They're talking to us as if we're google!

[safe grail]

bro i actually cannot stand it lmfao

it's a giant pet peeve

[proper hawk]

if you can't get enough flat spell damage, it could be that you are playing a build that doesn't use ladle well, or it could be something completely different. Without knowing your build, its hard to say

[sick falcon]

people asking questions about builds or just the way he worded his?

[safe grail]

the way he worded it

[stiff crown]

Hey google, play toad’s sound clips from Mario kart 64 on YouTube

[sturdy summit]

I should give ladle a try, since frostbite doesn't care about spell damage. I could slam cast speed and freeze rate multiplier on it.

[safe grail]

cast speed on it would be nuts

but

[hearty cypress]

just do frozen lightning blast

[zealous kernel]

New to le. Went rune master. Which element should I go for

[safe grail]

it only works if you are stacking int

which frostbite doesnt do right?

[sturdy summit]

oh damn

[proper hawk]

I think this was honestly a bit unnecessarily hostile tbh, nothing wrong with asking questions, especially one thats a bit less straightforward like that one

[sturdy summit]

that's right

[hearty cypress]

@safe grail yea can u be less hostile wtf

[shell fern]

pretty sure some druid builds use culnivar aswell

but yeah, thats about it

[hearty cypress]

im terrible dont talk to me @shell fern

[safe grail]

On no you misunderstand

That is a pet peeve of mine if you can't simply say hi or "how do i do x"

don't come thru and be like

"How to install LE?"

like no

go to google then

[sick falcon]

if youre leveling, spamming fireball and casting the 3 fire rune "runic invocation", is a simple way to start

[hearty cypress]

i wanna hi five u so bad

[shell fern]

[zealous kernel]

OK tyvm

[sturdy summit]

what even is that emote. OWOBYSS!?

[safe grail]

also, don't fkn come at me saying "that was unncessarily hostile" i sit in here like a good chunk of the day answer basic and less str8 forward questions

[shell fern]

courtesy of Leo

[proper hawk]

blame leo

[safe grail]

I just want a tad bit of courtesy, that's all

[safe grail]

LOL

[proper hawk]

is Leo still around? i dont think ive seen him in a while

[sick falcon]

im thinking of building spellblade next, do yall find that one fun?

[safe grail]

spellblade can be flashy/fun

but it won't push unless you do like that giga frostbite version

or a very well min-maxed LL version

[hearty cypress]

@safe grail watch out @cold sand is typing

u about to hear some complain mister

[safe grail]

google.com

[sick falcon]

good to know thanks

[stiff crown]

Frostbite freeze last epoch Reddit

[proper hawk]

guys relax and let the poor guy just ask his question

[woeful quiver]

damn this chat is really toxic rn

[shell fern]

yeah havent seen him

even boru and misha left this discord

[cold sand]

no complaint, ex is just kind of a cnt so he can go google how to fck himself

[safe grail]

BASED

[hearty cypress]

@safe grail HAHAHAHAHHA

[safe grail]

lets FKN GO

now THAT'S the right answer

fk ya

now i ACTUALLY wanna help you

no memes

I LOVE banter like that

[hearty cypress]

@cold sand u just touched his sweet spot

his love language is insult

[safe grail]

dawg my wife constantly insults me on a reg

ofc it's my love language

lmfao

[proper hawk]

lmao

[hearty cypress]

got him real hard rn

[safe grail]

full chub

[sturdy summit]

🤣

[safe grail]

@cold sand what build ya playin dude

lets get down to it

[autumn crypt]

Dragorath seems to be really cool lol

[lyric mango]

Are you masochist and she is a sadist?

Does she peg you?

[safe grail]

if your wife isn't insulting you on the reg

she's cheating on u

[lyric mango]

I mean depends if the insults are in the sarcasm/playful matter

Or for real

[safe grail]

oh just sarcastic/playful lol

never legit

[lyric mango]

I like to banter too

[cold sand]

wild magic runemaster. Don't have link to build I'm on mobile atm and don't have bookmark, but it's using mad alchemist ladel and stacking int, cast speed, and crit multi. That all makes sense, but I can't find where it's getting enough flat damage to actually scale since ladel itself has fckall.

Equipping a random wand with high +spell dmg basically triples my dps atm.

[safe grail]

hm

if i know what build you're talking about, you should have a few things like bute, fundemental criterion, ladle, twsited heart etc

slammed w/ int on some of those pieces ya?

[twilit stag]

My mage channel is so much better after just blocking him lol

[cold sand]

Yea that sounds correct. I don't have int on every piece yet, but it's really struggling for damage with the ladle compared to just running a purple wand

[safe grail]

who me?

[proper hawk]

well you can put 1 point into each of the runewords for 30 flat once they are all triggered

[twilit stag]

No I like you sir lol

[safe grail]

lmao was gonna say

[sturdy summit]

ladle doesn't become better than a purple wand until 2lp, right?

[twilit stag]

2lp with just the suffix smashes isn't better than anything (rip all my attempts)

[sturdy summit]

oh yeah, assuming the right 2 affixes

[proper hawk]

really depends on the build, for enigma builds its probably better with 0lp tbh

[twilit stag]

How are you guys handling the huge decrease in flat spell damage when using a ladle?

[safe grail]

so the primary thing i can suggest w/ ladle is ensuring you have plenty of ailments to apply @cold sand

[proper hawk]

well enigma builds get absurd amounts of flat from int so it doesnt matter, other builds tend to be a case by case basis as to whether they can get enough int

[sturdy summit]

true, although this is a wild magic build

[safe grail]

i dont think wild magic is gonna scale terribly well

but

I'd think you'd wanna have several ailments

since having less than 8 up at a time is just a str8 dps loss

[proper hawk]

iirc the last wild magic build i saw turned invo into a traversal skill so that it could also use never late for flat + flat crit, and the cooldown was a non-issue because of the node that recovers CD when your runes change

[safe grail]

yep

thats the one

fundemental criterion was in that build but i dont really agree w/ that choice tbch

i guess if you need the +skills to Invo yeah

[proper hawk]

yeah i really didnt like the idea of trying to all attribute scale for more damage, that didn't sound like the right play

[safe grail]

but i'd think if you wanted to bump dmg up a bit, you could use unstable core if you wanna stick unique and get some skills or if go w/ a really well statted and sealed exalted tyrant reg

@cold sand ^some thoughts here for you

[twilit stag]

In handling 200 corr with it, just haven't had time to push further

[twilit stag]

Yea that's what I'm currently doing. Invoking every 2 seconds with about 25 stacks

[safe grail]

yeah actually

i personally believe Criterion is sht for that build

[twilit stag]

I'm using a fund as well, and honestly even without stacking any other stats the damage is nicr

[twilit stag]

What would you use instead?

[safe grail]

Tyrant regalia base exalted w/ T7 int, w/e 2nd prefix, armor/armor or resists if you need em

and then seal one and get another affix

you'll get flat spell dmg + int across everything which will scale better imo

other problem w/ using criterion

[twilit stag]

Hmm I've got a pretty good base I'll try crafting on and compare results

[safe grail]

is you HAVE to run 2x Red RIng

cus you want +All attributes

[twilit stag]

I'm running 2 julras with no issues, though I could see why he red rings would scale better

[safe grail]

red rings will 100% scale better w/ criterion

cus you are getting a rune that scales w/ dex, str or attune

[twilit stag]

The thing is with wild magic you're shifting runes so much is doesn't reallllllly matter

[paper bough]

helloo, so i switched back and forth between several characters and builds so far, but all become a bit repetitive at some point and i'm desiring something fun. So i came here to ask you fellows, if any of you play Sorcerer and what build for a fun, Sorcerer would you recommend me ? ( no runemaster, no spellblade, sorc only )

[stiff crown]

LB Sorc, lul

[paper bough]

please explain a bit more

[stiff crown]

You need to ask the master

[paper bough]

lead me to him please

[safe grail]

Maybe the trade off is the following:

-If 2x Red Ring -> Criterion as Armor
-If no Red Rings -> Tyrant Reg base w/ T7 int as armor

[twilit stag]

True, but the flat 36% more from a wand still seems pretty damn strong

[safe grail]

you only get that if Heo is the 1st rune

[stiff crown]

He won’t share anything with you though

[paper bough]

😮

[twilit stag]

Which is 30% of the time, so it averages out to 10% more 🤷

[safe grail]

hm

i guess it's entirely in the eye of the beholder 😛

lol

but for all we know, until you test it, it could be the same dmg

or worse

if it's the same, it opens up A LOT of ring possibilities

w8

wouldn't tyrant reg end up in more dmg?

you'll get more int overall

so you'd get 8-10 int from red ring, but if you play say 2 really well rolled t6/t7 int rings

+t7 int chest

[unborn hamlet]

ok i think i finally know why im running out of mana

its cos my ele nova is 1cost

damn T7 reduce haunting me once again

[twilit stag]

I can test it tomorrow

The levels of runic invoke really help with getting the cooldown low enough

[twilit stag]

If you can get int on the fundamental, I think it comes out higher

[unborn hamlet]

wait a second

bru, it was the Crest of Unity making it unplayable

wtf

i tried to put it back on and suddenly my nova was 6 cost for no reason 😂

great bug

[neon lynx]

You can no longer gain experience while in the grace period (the period of invulnerability after arriving to a new area)

Why does ehg hate power leveling???

[twilit stag]

That doesn't make sense

[unborn hamlet]

tell me about it

[twilit stag]

You sure it's not because of the levels it unspecced?

[unborn hamlet]

i changed to a different helmet and even tho my nova is 1cost i can hold down frostclaw and infinite mana

no, i completly respec it

if i put on crest of unity its suddenly 6 mana

[neon lynx]

Sht chest for a sht build

It’s fitting

[safe grail]

lol

also RIP Riot MMO

[unborn hamlet]

huh?

did they drop it?

😂

i was waiting for that

[twilit stag]

Don't hate on my build 😥

[safe grail]

Tryndamere tweeted that they changed development paths because

"We don’t believe you all want an MMO that you’ve played before with a Runeterra coat of paint"

meaning this will set them back SEVERAL years

and several years for an MMO is like.... 7-10 lol

literally what ppl want was that tho so it's kinda sus and weird

[neon lynx]

We just want a good mmo to play

Idc if I’ve played it before or not

😂

[rapid lion]

does anyone know of a good place to get a really solid novaclaw loot filter

[unborn hamlet]

look

[neon lynx]

Shift f

[unborn hamlet]

even if its 20 years

[neon lynx]

Has some pretty solid filters

[unborn hamlet]

as long as its a banger ill wait

[sturdy summit]

FF14 not to your liking?

[neon lynx]

Nah

Games slow af

And no pvp

[sturdy summit]

they've really improved the pvp in the past couple years, but I won't argue that it's slow

[robust reef]

does ignite scale with int?

[neon lynx]

I spent too many years playing eso and bdo

Games like ff put me to sleep lol

[sturdy summit]

you want elemental damage over time for ignite.

[robust reef]

yes but does ignite scale with int?

[sturdy summit]

if you apply it with a spell, it will get 4% increased damage per int

is what I've just heard

I need to go test that still

[robust reef]

to the dummy I go!

[sturdy summit]

yep!

[robust reef]

I'd love a way to set a dummy with a timer, and get the dps for that time frame

[sturdy summit]

what I want is to have the dps broken down by how much of it was caused by each ability and element

[robust reef]

it would be great to see how much damage I do over a given time period, starting from 0

[sturdy summit]

it seems the proxy for that is "how fast can you kill t4 julra"

[neon lynx]

We just need Le pob

[errant plank]

Mouhahahahhaa

i'm stucked 😒

I wanted to do that

but i created my characters offline so far

and looks like i need to be online to access trading

and cant login online with my offline character...

[robust reef]

what if you can't kill t4 Jura? 😅

[sturdy summit]

so, I took off all my gear and got two items with a combined 20+ int. That nearly doubles my int with no other gear. I see a lot of variance in the dot damage, but the most frequent number I get is about 30-33 for 1 stack. If I put on the 20 int, the most frequent number becomes 36

[errant plank]

do you all guyz have online character?

[sturdy summit]

yes, online

[robust reef]

yeah I actually just did some testing too and it seems like if there is any scaling it would be extremely tiny

[errant plank]

is there a way to transfer characters from online to offline and viceversa?

[robust reef]

and within variation for a smol sample size

[sturdy summit]

although the damage is random, it's very regular as well. There is a clear mode.

[neon lynx]

No

[sturdy summit]

putting on a ton of int changes that mode. So I'm willing to believe it's getting an extra 80% increased damage to move the number from 30 to 36

[stiff crown]

Variance is what? +-20?

[turbid quail]

does elemental shred work for DoTs? I know armour shred applies only to hits, wondering if it's the same for ele shred

[robust reef]

yeh

[sturdy summit]

dots ignore armor, but they don't ignore resists.

[turbid quail]

thanks

[sturdy summit]

I had to put on some increased spell damage to test as a control experiment. Thank goodness, it doesn't affect the dot damage at all.

[turbid quail]

Spell damage or ele shred? I think spell damage only affects hits

[sturdy summit]

spell damage only affects spells

regardless of whether they're a hit or not.

[inland falcon]

Hey everyone, is the maxroll plasma orb guide the best one out there atm? it hasnt been updated since pre 1.0 release

[sturdy summit]

The thing I'm trying to understand is how int affects damage over time. I thought it didn't affect it at all, but it turns out it does scale with int, despite not showing up on the character sheet.

[sturdy summit]

maxroll guides are not a good source of endgame information. Find something on lastepochtools.

[inland falcon]

ok, i mean it has been good but i think im starting to miss some scaling now that i am 87 🙂

i will check out that site

[sturdy summit]

they can be a good place to start, but best to transition away from them now

[unborn hamlet]

I figured out my mana issue

[sturdy summit]

how did you do it?

[unborn hamlet]

Crest of unity was making my ele nova cost 6 for whatever reason

I changed helmets and it's now down to 1

Now I have no mana issues

It's probably bugged

[sturdy summit]

I took a week to get a good answer for how damage works with crest of unity, and when I did, I removed it, because you really have to build around it for it to be good.

if you're trying to build around a single element, it can really screw you up if you're not careful.

[latent geyser]

is mage weak ?

[sturdy summit]

no

[latent geyser]

whats the strongest mastery for it ?

[sick falcon]

i havent played sorcerer yet, only runemage, so I havent used arcane ascendance. It says it stops movement, can I get around that with teleport?

[hasty roost]

Yes. Teleport works when AA is active.

I made a whole build out of channeling Focus for damage while AA is active and proccing lightning blast, using teleport for movement and to proc its defensive buffs.

[sturdy summit]

like a mobile turret

[safe grail]

yes

and it doesnt actually deactivate it either

[hasty roost]

Yes. And it’s a self-aiming turret if you use the channeled version of LB.

[sick falcon]

thanks. Im reading up on the mastery trying to see if I can make enough builds to warrant the leveling time. Like if it's got enough to warrant leveling when i already play runemage

[balmy abyss]

did the update mess something in game damage panels?

it somehow diriculously shows me 1214% cast speed, 1509% crit chance, 16266^ lightning damage and more ridiculous values

[neon lynx]

save the sorcerer gameplay for cycle 2 after rm gets nerfed xd

[sick falcon]

i thought i remember them saying they werent going to be nerfing exceptionally strong masteries unless they were literally broken through bugs or errors on their part leading to performance beyond intention

[neon lynx]

mid cycle

[sick falcon]

ah, makes sense

[proper hawk]

Runemaster is clearly the strongest mastery for mage. Sorcerer is okish, but is completely obsoleted by runemaster, with almost nothing that sorcerer can do that runemaster can't do better. Spellblade isn't obsoleted by Runemaster by virtue of SB doing its own thing with melee attacks, but that doesn't mean spellblade is particularly good either

[neon lynx]

the power creep in this game would be absurd if they took that stance as a whole lol

[sick falcon]

yeah i agree. I've always hated the argument that pve games should never nerf.

[neon lynx]

i do think mid cycle nerfs are bad

but by all means

when were all wiped

back to level 1

balance things out

[proper hawk]

I feel like theres a middle ground people miss. Like yeah, a pve game doesn't need to be finely balanced, but balance does still matter

[neon lynx]

and RM and falconer should not be the new standard that they bring everything up to lol

[proper hawk]

i mean it seems to me warlock and falconer are way above RM tbh but maybe im way off

[hasty roost]

I’m always reluctant to go right into the strongest builds, because if something is going to be nerfed into the ground, I don’t want it to be the basis of my entire build.

[neon lynx]

warlock was obviously not tested before release

and only seemed super strong because of obvious bugs

[sick falcon]

people struggle with that concept in helldivers lol. People who crutch on overpowered tools find themselves less capable of doing hard content post nerf, and it feels bad so they get mad.

[neon lynx]

imo its not that strong anymore now that they are starting to get fixed

[proper hawk]

well, as long as that build isnt strong because of a bug, you're fine for the duration of a cycle

[hollow arrow]

rogue has been tuned down alittle bit, but is still abit high. Warlock is nuts

RM pretty much has shields

Sentinel ONLY has shields

lmao

[hasty roost]

My current build is a hit/crit cold sorc with no uniques whatsoever at the moment, so no fear about nerfs/bugs. 😆

[sick falcon]

im new to this whole cycle thing (and ARPGs like this and diablo), 3-4 months seems a little long to me.

[neon lynx]

you arent meant to play the whole cycle imo

play it until u get bored

[hasty roost]

Make tons of alts with the time.

[neon lynx]

take a break and come back next cycle

rotate between LE D4 and POE in the 3-4 month rotation xd

[clear haven]

Maybe a noob question. But I am progressing in the game and i work on my resistances. But why do I have -70% poison resistance… ? I have poison resistance on some idols and I have started stacking it on idols as well but I’m still negative.

[hasty roost]

Does your gear give a malus to poison resist somewhere?

[proper hawk]

thats curious, are you an acolyte with aura of decay?

[clear haven]

Not that I can see ..

[clear haven]

Runemaster

[neon lynx]

take all ur gear off and see what ur res is

[sturdy summit]

Fixed a bug where Ballista’s “Armed Construction” node was giving 1% increased radius per dexterity instead of its listed 1% increased area per dexterity
Today

[clear haven]

I noticed poison one shots me while I can tank most dmg types (sort of)

[clear haven]

Ok I wil try. Good idea

[neon lynx]

builds still bonkers

[sturdy summit]

are you relying a lot on armor?

[clear haven]

Actually bit low on armor. Ward is keeping me alive (I think)

[sturdy summit]

oh wait, nvm

[proper hawk]

my understanding is that the bug fix barely affects the build, it still has all the damage and the aoe is still very large, just not multiple screens large

[neon lynx]

^

its only 1 screen wide now

instead of 2

lol

[sturdy summit]

oh, damn. I guess my falconer never got high enough that it was much more than 1 screen to begin with

[neon lynx]

yea it scaled hard with dex stacking

similar to how fc spark scales with int

[sturdy summit]

I'm only at 70, not 140

or whatever ridiculous number

[neon lynx]

still an S tier build with the bug fix

[proper hawk]

as far as area scaling goes, harder actually, because of how multiplying the radius vs multiplying the area works, its actually quadratic area scaling

well not anymore since its bug fixed but you know what i mean

[neon lynx]

yeah i was just giving an example

of how crazy it scales with dex

like how spark scales crazy with int

[sturdy summit]

at the end of the day, the huge area is a perk. what matters is its damage output scaling

[robust whale]

is there a build to start for curruption instead uniques or legandary

exalted only for frostclaw

[clear haven]

Ok without gear and idols these are my res: fire 867 lightning 865 cold 1681 physical -46 poison -175 necrotic 1 void 0
🫣

[neon lynx]

wat

how u got 1600 phys res

[clear haven]

New to the game. I probably made a mistake somewhere

It’s my cold that’s that high

[proper hawk]

you have a character sheet bug

[cloud vault]

Seems theres some visual bug with stats on your char page, duplicates them or something

[proper hawk]

no way you have 1681 phys res by accident, im not even sure thats possible in the game

[clear haven]

😂 again it’s my cold res but yeah. Something’s wrong here

[proper hawk]

your character sheet is extremely bugged, it should only be visual

[clear haven]

Ill reboot see if it helps

[proper hawk]

yeah do that

[hollow arrow]

i'd like tons of res like that

wont need omnis lmao

[proper hawk]

1681 phys res would be kinda cracked with apostates sanctuary lmao

[clear haven]

It’s the cold resistance that’s so high for me

[safe grail]

are you using anything that would give you cold res for freeze multi?

[proper hawk]

oh lmao i should actually read what you are saying

1681 cold res? thats one hell of a lot of ward retention from frostbite shackles lmao

[safe grail]

LOL

[vestal relic]

Hey all. Have a question around some runemaster builds. I'm following this spark charge cast on crit + lightning blast build from Allie.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/allie---cast-on-crit-spark-charge-runemaster#gameplay_mechanics

The discussion has a lot of chatter about better variants of this build. Using mad alch's ladle instead of dragorath's claw + some other uniques. And switching passives so lightning blast is cold and you still have COLD FIRE COLD in that order in the bar.

https://pastebin.com/N96jSL17 -> https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnaKzMVA

In this setup do I just cast lightning blast manually? I'm not sure what the skill rotation looks like. Before it was just defenses (flame ward / runic invocation -> reowyn's frostguard) + frost claw. What is it after?

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.1

Class:

Mage (21) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (67)

General:

▸ Health: 1,114, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 185, Regen: 13/s
▸ Ward Retention: 674%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 23 Dex / 162 Int / 6 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 70% / 76% / 78% / 66% / 62% / 88%
▸ EHP: 2,070 / 1,971 / 2,070 / 2,320 / 1,756 / 1,694 / 1,914

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 223
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (127)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,358)

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Runic Invocation (22)
• Frost Claw (22)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Lightning Blast (21)
• Flame Rush (21)

Used unique items:

• Prismatic Gaze
• Static Shell
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Red Ring of Atlaria
• Julra's Stardial
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

Allie - Cast on Crit Spark Charge Runemaster Build Guide

Game Cycle / Version

Release / 1.0.1

Class

Mage / Runemaster

Used skills

• Frost Claw
• Lightning Blast
• Flame Rush
• Runic Invocation
• Flame Ward

Used unique items

• Dragorath's Claw
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Foot of the Mountain
• Prismatic Gaze

Tags

Monolith Farmer / Cycle Starter / Beginner / SSF / Ranged

Created by Allie · Mar 12, 2024, 4:54 AM

[clear haven]

Ok rebooting helped lol 😂😂😂

[proper hawk]

good to hear, visual bugs like that are pretty annoying even if they are funny at first

[clear haven]

Fire 27, lightning 27, cold 3, the rest 0 or 1

Hahaha thanks for the help ✌🏻

[safe grail]

hey bud, imma say this nicely;

You need to read the guide if you're following it and look thru the items. In that build (which isn't the greatest imo) you'd not be casting LB directly. you'd be casting FC which will proc dragorath's claw to fire off LB

[vestal relic]

I'm talking about the other variants suggested. I know I don't cast lightning blast with Allie's

[safe grail]

OH

[hasty roost]

The dawning of wisdom in this game is when you start prioritizing resists. That dawning usually occurs by means of Lagon.

[safe grail]

okay i misread then

nvm

lol

[vestal relic]

Trust me I've been reading trying to figure it out hah. Elemental nova is the ultimate goal but need some + levels to frost claw on relic.

[proper hawk]

eh, resists are one of the less important layers in this game, you fill in what you can get where it fits but other stuff is more important imo

[hollow arrow]

oh google is ex

[safe grail]

LOL yeah

[hollow arrow]

wondered why was being such a d*ck

[hasty roost]

I guess prioritizing is the wrong word. “Not ignoring” is probably better.

[proper hawk]

oh yeah fair enough

though i ignore resists until empowered monos generally lol

[warped crow]

is selfcast meteor any good or do people only play it as a crit build with the belt?

[safe grail]

oh boy this d3 campfire chat lmfao

[hollow arrow]

i wonder if i swapped out dago on my RM build, used LB with Nova

[proper hawk]

imo the belt is bad, self cast meteor isn't great either but its going to be better imo

[warped crow]

ic

[proper hawk]

like self cast meteor is far from a top build, but you can make it work, trying to make the belt work is pain however

[hollow arrow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BM6yl6ro

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (23) / Runemaster (70)

General:

▸ Health: 1,194, Regen: 30/s
▸ Mana: 262, Regen: 23/s
▸ Ward Retention: 706%, Regen: 65/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 25 Dex / 170 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 71% / 72% / 58% / 66% / 72% / 84% / 77%
▸ EHP: 1,873 / 1,891 / 1,673 / 2,241 / 1,891 / 1,957 / 1,957

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 239
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (183)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,700)

Damage Types:

▸ Lightning, Cold, Fire / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Runic Invocation (25)
• Flame Rush (22)
• Frost Claw (26)
• Lightning Blast (23)
• Elemental Nova (25)

Used unique items:

• Boneclamor Barbute
• Unstable Core
• Dragorath's Claw
• Fragment of the Enigma
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Strands of Souls
• Blood of the Exile
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros

This build has a guide:

Runemaster Obliteration - Dragorath's Dagger Solved - Absurd Runemaster Endgame Build Guide by BootyNoodles

[hollow arrow]

think this could work?

not sure why bonebrute helm, and i'd swap out unstable later on

[proper hawk]

you go boneclamour barbute because you can slam int on it with LP and have a double int helmet

[clear haven]

Just tested my resistance on the same map and same boss/elite. I think the bug wasn’t just visual. No problem with poison dmg now 🫡

[hollow arrow]

true but without gaze you'd lose abit of crit

[proper hawk]

oh really? that's interesting

[hollow arrow]

unless you could properly slam spell crit and multi everywhere

but i get bonebrute now

didnt think of the double int

[proper hawk]

lightning blast version doesnt need base crit because closed circuit is absolutely insane

[hollow arrow]

ah right i forgot about closed circuit

hmmm

[proper hawk]

you just take the crit from int stacking and the crit from closed circuit and you have so much you just call it good

[hollow arrow]

i have a 3lp dago dagger just chilling in my stash so

could try this out

[warped crow]

does closed circuit stack or just reset itself?

[proper hawk]

i hate you, i farmed so hard for that pre 1.0, got one, missed the exalted attack speed slam

on 3LP

[hollow arrow]

rip

[proper hawk]

so mad

[cold sand]

https://i.imgur.com/eZJip5F.png wtf?

[proper hawk]

it stacks, its nuts

[proper hawk]

lmao what?

[hollow arrow]

more visual bugs? lmao

[warped crow]

so what your saying is i should take the passive that lets it only chain to 1 target ... and then force it to chain me lel

[cold sand]

How did t his happen?!

like it's actual resists too, I'm getting bonuses from it from nodes that benefit from overstacking

[warped crow]

just have like 100% crit chance with like 3-4 casts

[proper hawk]

wow it really isnt visual bugs, its just randomly scuffed resistances holy

[hollow arrow]

damn lmao

[proper hawk]

pretty sure that doesnt work

[warped crow]

i mean it doesnt specify the target has to be an enemy so i thought it would

[proper hawk]

I don't think you can target yourself directly, and when you take convergence it won't chain away from the enemy you target, so it will never chain to you

[warped crow]

walk away from the enemy so they arent in the skill range xD

[craggy bramble]

Has anyone transitioned from frostbite frostclaw to spark charge frostclaw?

[proper hawk]

again, i dont think you can target yourself with the skill, you can only chain to yourself off an enemy

[warped crow]

ic nvm

ye

thats sad i wanted to big brain

[proper hawk]

i feel that lol

[hollow arrow]

it might work since resists seem to be shot today

[warped crow]

just a visual bug

[hollow arrow]

shh

just look at it and dream

all ya gotta do

[warped crow]

lol'

[proper hawk]

sounds like its not a visual bug, some other guy is having other stats scale with their outrageously high resistances

relogging should still fix it though

[warped crow]

its a visual bug cuz -99% movement speed would be noticeable

[cold sand]

the other stats are visual bugged, but my resists and ward retention are not

[hollow arrow]

you never know

[cold sand]

I noticed it when my ward was just randomly like 5x what it normally is and then saw I had 800 ward retention

[hollow arrow]

it could be like warlocks damage that's -2billion

that overflows so much and kills everything

lmao

[proper hawk]

listen they fixed the integer overflow bug with warlock lmao

[cold sand]

this is runemaster that's like lvl 76

[proper hawk]

so stupid that was even a thing though

[hollow arrow]

dont mean they could do that to a RM

it happened, could happen again ti seems like

which again ye is stupid

[warped crow]

hey people make mistakes xD

[proper hawk]

i mean more in the sense of what a silly bug

[cold sand]

shame this didn't happen on elemental nova build imagine that much overcap res with that one helm that scales elemental pen with it

would just penetrate 500 resists

[proper hawk]

i wish holy

[warped crow]

lol

[proper hawk]

id say it would be cool to get that on my swarmblade for the dodge per cold res on serpent strike but i dodge cap for free anyways lmao

[cold sand]

damn I know if I logoff my char gonna be junk again 😭

[rough python]

Guys static or unstable core for elemental nova frost claw build

What do you guys recommend

[hollow arrow]

someone in my chat has 2500 crit chance rn

lmao

visual bugs all over

[rocky gale]

My brain is smooth, what is the point of wearing Blood of the Exile boots for NovaClaw build?

[hollow arrow]

has more spd built into them + int

[rocky gale]

Just speed and int? Hmm i feel like with the right rolls you can replace those with better exalted boots if you cant get LP on them

[safe grail]

d4 just str8 ripped FP from LE lmfao

[hollow arrow]

well you can double dip on int

[warped crow]

lol

[proper hawk]

personally i think static shell is very good and i dont see a whole lot of point in unstable core, however I feel like i might be missing something regarding core and I haven't made that build so take it with a grain of salt

[hollow arrow]

with right rolls you could do 28 int from boots + more movement spd if you wanted or shred

[rocky gale]

if u get lp yeah

[warped crow]

smol brain moment

lel

[proper hawk]

i saw that

you cant hide from me, i know what you did

[warped crow]

ye not my proudest dum dum

[proper hawk]

lmao

[rough python]

I guess its visually hard to tell why static shell is considered so good compared to unstable core, On unstable core I see stats go up I guess. Plus I dont ahve +4 frost claw yet so I think I will use unstable core for now for the +1 skill points it provides.

[proper hawk]

im sure ive done dummer

[warped crow]

lol

[cold sand]

static shell has a more multiplier on it, right?

[rugged shoal]

yea

[proper hawk]

static shell is a more damage multiplier as well as an absolutely massive more armour multiplier, the armour multiplier is very good defensively and more damage is always good

[rough python]

Static shell gives elemental damage and spell damage on ele nova. Also gives you +3 to ele nova and +1 to the other skills.

[hollow arrow]

so many ice drake idols today, gonna make some monies

[proper hawk]

you have them backwards

[rocky gale]

I dont have +Frost Claw either and i NEED unstable core because of it. It''s not a huge deal i think to use it over static shell.

[rapid fox]

guys how he get the 25 points in frost claw in this guide

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/frostbite-frost-claw-runemaster-guide

i was searching for any skill point increase but somehow i am blind tho

[rugged shoal]

+4 frost claw on his relic

[rapid fox]

omg i am dumb lol thanks tho x)

[proper hawk]

it sounded like you had them right before that last comment though so i think you just mistyped

[hearty idol]

Hi all, quick question: when taking the node that make Flame rush cast Glyph of dominion, there is no way to get more than 1 rune, right? Because is not anymore channeled

[hollow arrow]

what

twisted heart from an arena node?

[proper hawk]

AFAIK that is correct

[proper hawk]

wait what

[hollow arrow]

no lp

but just random drop from last enemy

[proper hawk]

lmao what

[hearty idol]

Thanks... i badly need another fire rune, lol

[hollow arrow]

did they fk up something big? lmao

[rough python]

Your right, I will see how it feels, im squishier than before but without frostclaw +4 I think unstable core is the play for now atleast for the QOL.

[hollow arrow]

visual bugs all over in my chat

[proper hawk]

thats fair, frostclaw tends to require levels to enable certain interactions on its tree, so you could cover it with unstable core

omnis is also worth considering

[warped crow]

ok i had a fun but dumb idea ... what if when you get a +x to skill level effect to a skill that isnt your char you gain access to that skill ... it cannot be leveled normally but it has access to the points you gained from your + skill level effects

[proper hawk]

well, +x to level only appears on class locked items of that class, so it wouldn't change a whole lot, might be interesting for some otherwise mastery locked skills though

put it in the suggestions thread

[warped crow]

pretty sure some uniques have it that arent class locked but could be wrong

also 100% sure set items have it (because of that one set with static flame ward and snap freeze)

[proper hawk]

oh yeah theres meteor belt

[stiff crown]

Make this Weaver Will specific. Who knows if you'll get Sentinel skills on your mage gear

[warped crow]

xD

[proper hawk]

lmao rip weavers will relics if you did that

[rough python]

Oh thanks for that I wasnt aware ill keep any eye for it as well.

[warped crow]

honestly + skill level rolls are alot more intresting than random stat rolls on weavers will anyway

i wish there was a check in place that at least one of the affixes had to be +1 to a skill xD

[hollow arrow]

that reminds me

[rough python]

My first weavers I ever equiped on elenova frost claw gave me +4 flame ward lol

[proper hawk]

yeah but it would get a lot less interesting if it could roll from ANY class

[hollow arrow]

i got like 8 weaver gloves to try and level

[warped crow]

my first one rolled +2 to leap slam lel

my most recent one rolled +3 to aerial assault t6 tho

just casually having +8 assault was funny

[proper hawk]

damn nice lol

just get +4 frost claw, for total +5 from relic, ez game

[warped crow]

i thought it only went to +3

and then 1 from relic itself

[proper hawk]

wait thats just bad twisted heart nvm

[proper hawk]

t6 is +3 t7 is +4

[warped crow]

idk some of them are really good ... i think mage relic is very lackluster but like

for example accolyte goes really well with volatile zombies

and then if you have shadows then rogues is good too

[vestal relic]

Does taking ice shard and frost spikes both on runebolt force it to only have a cold tag?

[proper hawk]

yeah but +4 to frost claw on ww relic for +5 levels is actually just worse than +4 to frost claw slammed on heart for +5 levels plus goodies lol

[vestal relic]

For purposes of immutable order

[proper hawk]

I believe so yes

[warped crow]

but mage takes so much prior investment to make that mana guard effect actually matter

and even when it does matter its pretty small

[proper hawk]

idk, with the current state of damage taken to mana i think its best in small amounts, if you have mana to spare then its just like, 10% less damage taken, and thats just good

[vestal relic]

Okay I understand the halfway point of this ele nova spark charge build then. Just frost claw build with spectre and frost claw glamdring node.

Until + levels to frost claw and all the various uniques.

[warped crow]

you really usually dont tho that early

[hollow arrow]

oh dang these gloves are actually decent

t6 hp lost to ward gain

[proper hawk]

depends on the build, some builds just don't use much mana

[hollow arrow]

comes with int, crit avoid and ele resist

ez monies

[warped crow]

ye idk it just feels like mage one is so situational and out of place compared to the other 4

[forest nacelle]

lame question but... i have 1.5k ward and 900hp, capped resists and 30% reduced elemental damage from robe. is it enough to challenge the age of winter, while im still 78 lvl?

[proper hawk]

i actually find the rogue and primalist ones more annoying and out of place on a lot of builds on those masteries

the mage one is just generally helpful for the most part, and the damage taken to mana is small enough that even if its an issue, its not a big issue

[errant plank]

any chance i can get a gambler amulet using a rune of ascendancy?

[warped crow]

ye but thats also a bit double edged cuz if its not an issue its also not noticeably impactful

also its really funny when you kill a boss with acolyte relic and suddenly get like 20k ward

[errant plank]

Any insights on my build to help me tackle down normal mono welcome:

[warped crow]

xD

[errant plank]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QqwlNwRo

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 75

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.3

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (2) / Runemaster (66)

General:

▸ Health: 1,073, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 228, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 158%, Regen: 52/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 5 Dex / 40 Int / 8 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 130% / 89% / 100% / 60% / 42% / 27% / 64%
▸ EHP: 1,304 / 1,304 / 1,304 / 1,205 / 980 / 881 / 1,170

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 215
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 17% (404)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 107%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Glyph of Dominion (20)
• Disintegrate (21)
• Teleport (20)
• Focus (20)
• Flame Ward (20)

Used unique items:

• Peak of the Mountain
• Woven Flesh
• Ignivar's Head
• Ashes of Mortality

[hollow arrow]

https://imgur.com/a/p3GeUwn

i think some LL build will like these lol

[proper hawk]

well I see you are using ignivar's head, but not soul gambler's fallacy, you will want to add that unique to the build, even if it makes it awkward to play around with glyph of dominion

[errant plank]

why akward? Im definately looking for gmblers amulet but didnt find it yet 😒

[proper hawk]

because you can only do damage with dots, if the hit from glyph hits enemies, it will crit, and turn off your build for 4 seconds

because thats how gamblers fallacy works

[errant plank]

oh i see what you mean...

[proper hawk]

its still good, its just very awkward, and if its too awkward you are best off removing glyph

[warped crow]

but ye like
sentinal - armour damage applies to dot - very big
primalist - less dot dmg taken from slowed enemies - also pretty big and easy to get slow ... second effect pretty situational but lel
rouge - shadow 1/6 chance to take 25% less dmg - just put shadow on your shift and your golden
accolyte - endurance and ward when something dies - pretty meh but still useable (very good with 1 build)

then you go mage and its very dependant on a mechanic you cant really scale all that well until alot later lel

[proper hawk]

I do think sentinel is the best one by far

[warped crow]

ye sentinel probably best

[proper hawk]

i think im way undervaluing the primalist one now that you mention it

less dot is pretty big actually

[barren pawn]

Yeah I've already told him this

[proper hawk]

i think the rogue one is very underwhelming though

[warped crow]

smaller than sentinel at 12% but still pretty big xD

[barren pawn]

He can add 3rd eye or the one helm woth flat crit until he gets it

[proper hawk]

yeah its really annoying they drop disabled the quest version

i get why but still

[warped crow]

also it doesnt depend on anything lengthy like sentinels

since you just get the dmg reduction directly instead of needing to scale something (in sentinels case armour)

[orchid basalt]

do we need spell damage as a RM, im having trouble finding stuff to get it high

[proper hawk]

this comment is too vague to help, please be more specific

increased spell damage? flat spell damage? which skill? stuff like that

[warped crow]

honestly i think the biggest win for the mage relic ... is if you can high roll the base implicit mana and mana gained as ward effect

[orchid basalt]

so my lightning dmg goes way dow if i equip something that will bring my spell damge to 47% from 5%

[warped crow]

like thats more valeuable than the actual special mechanic imo

[orchid basalt]

in my character sheet

[warped crow]

40% of mana spent gained as ward xD

and +40 mana

[proper hawk]

yeah, you can get increased lightning damage on almost every item slot, and also int will give you 4% increased damage per point

[orchid basalt]

so is ok if my spell damage is at 5%

[proper hawk]

I think all three add together to be a nice bonus, but yeah the damage taken to mana is a bit underwhelming

[warped crow]

like im not saying it cant be good ... just that it takes alot longer to become valueable lel

[twilit stag]

Damn that's pretty big actually. Enough FP to seal and craft?

[proper hawk]

oh, yeah, all increased damage is added together before being applied, so if you have 100% increased lightning and 80% increased damage from 20 points of int, and 5% spell damage, it will all total to 185% increased damage

[proper hawk]

eh, i think you need less mana for it to be good earlier because you are taking less damage so it evens out

[hollow arrow]

i didnt touch it so should have enough

has 32

[molten wren]

Does anyone know what happens with Elemental Nova as a Runemaster? If you have all 3 elemental conversions active it cycles through them randomly each time it seems, so would it apply a rune equal to whichever was randomly chosen? Or how does it end up working?

[errant plank]

But you use glyph as well dont you ?

[hollow arrow]

seal it slap on cast spd maybe? lmao

[orchid basalt]

awesome ty

[warped crow]

but ye outside of which relic is good or bad i like the weavers will mechanic xD

id still use any of them for the +1 lol ... and then pray for a skill to show up

[proper hawk]

you would think it would select a rune by which random ele nova it chooses, but instead it rotates through the runes regularly

[hollow arrow]

https://imgur.com/a/KNHgqng

took 5 fp to seal it

[warped crow]

or resists but resists are boring

[proper hawk]

basically, ele nova isnt treated as being a random single element, its treated as a skill of all three elements, and the way that is treated is it will generate a rune of whatever you have the least runes of already, so if you already have 1 of each other rune, it will generate the third rune you dont have, this means it will cycle through all three runes repeatedly. I am unaware how it picks which order to cycle through them

[robust whale]

Is there a build for nova frostclaw with only exalted gear build?

[warped crow]

i dont think it works at all with ele nova

could be wrong but i dont remember it working

[molten stag]

any build existing with trinity of element ?

[warped crow]

no because its hard to scale more than 1 dmg type to any extreme sadge

[molten wren]

Oh interesting, so you end up with a random sequence of 3?

[onyx glen]

check out the minimum requirement video from BootyNoodle

[molten stag]

thanks

[proper hawk]

sort of? it will rotate through the three runes regularly, not randomly, but im not sure if the initial sequence is random or not

[robust whale]

I'm watching mitch

[proper hawk]

basically if it generates fire, lightning, cold, then it will continue to generate fire lightning and cold in that order

[molten stag]

What about Vilatria's Storm lance ? this is only lightning, is it viable ?

[proper hawk]

my understanding is that vilatria's storm lance is one of the less viable invos because while it does have a guaranteed crit, it is only 300% damage effectiveness

[hollow arrow]

damn i hate the hidden oasis map, so buggy

[molten stag]

damn i don't like frostclaw :x

Antipode of Mesembria? 800% but take time to explode

[molten wren]

Ohh, so can you "set" the order by loading it manually once, then it just remembers that same sequence each time you spam through your ele nova? Or is there a set sequence when spamming an all-element spell?

(re-read what you typed and realized you said you weren't sure if random, but still sending this message incase anyone else can clarify lol)

[proper hawk]

basically yes, if you use other skills to manually set the order, ele nova will continue to generate runes in that order. if you interrupt the sequence with another skill, you can change the order it cycles through that way as well

so if you use a fire skill and then a cold skill, it will see that you have no lightning rune and ele nova will produce a lightning rune, then continue to cycle through fire cold lightning in that order

[hasty roost]

Has anybody else messed with using Frost Claw’s Kolheim Ballista node to fuel Ice Barrage? Since Volley of Glass makes every projectile a hit, you can get the maximum 80% attack speed bonus fairly quickly.

[proper hawk]

what i dont know, is in the situation where you have a single rune such as fire, whether it generates cold or lightning, and whether it does so at random or always picks one

[sturdy summit]

for a frostbite ring, is it better for the t7 prefix to be Elemental Damage over Time, or Freeze Rate Multiplier and Cold Resist?

[proper hawk]

pretty sure it works the way you think, the issue is that the other node that triggers ice barrage itself can trigger even if ice barrage is still going, instantly resetting kolheim ballista and deleting your mana for no reason

if you cast ice barrage manually it should be fine i guess

[sturdy summit]

casting ice barrage automatically is trouble whenever it comes up

[hasty roost]

Yeah, I quickly figured out that the auto-trigger node was not worth it. I’m using the shield node for ice barrage and I want that shield to point where I want it, not where rng decides it should be.

[next lance]

is anyone else not allowed to use in game for some reason?

I keep typing but my messages aren't sending

[sturdy summit]

have you got the patch?

[proper hawk]

I think the answer here requires you to do math to determine which is better

[next lance]

yeah

[proper hawk]

it depends on how much inc damage you already have, and how much freeze rate you already have

[hasty roost]

The increased attack speed makes Wintry Blast (4 ice barrage projectiles) actually practical and useful. I just clear out the distance ahead of me.

[sturdy summit]

I think so, too. Unfortunately, lastepochtools build planner doesn't know how to convert freeze rate multiplier into cold pen in its Offense sheet.

[proper hawk]

its probably freeze rate, but ele damage over time is really good

[sturdy summit]

pen and increased damage make each other better, so there's probably some balance point you want to reach.

[proper hawk]

how much freeze rate do you have, and how much would you have with another t7 freeze rate

oh and also how much other pen do you have too i guess

[young gust]

Anyone have an active disintigrate build that can confirm soulgamblers fallacy nerf deleted the everloving !@# out of it? changed to "excludes channelling skills"

[crimson raft]

what? Excludes channeling skills?

[young gust]

It used to read "your skills gain 100% more crit if u haven't crit blabla, they added a line to that affix that says "excludes channelling skills" effectively deleting disintigrate from the game

[crimson raft]

In the patch just now?

[young gust]

yeah

[crimson raft]

I'm not seeing annything in the patch notes about that, logging in to check item

[young gust]

yeah its not in notes lol

[proper hawk]

i wonder if they accidently pushed the wrong update lmao, might explain all the visual bugs

[crimson raft]

wtf. This is bs.

[young gust]

It's really funny 23hours after someone posted a disintigrate build on reddit

[crimson raft]

I can confirm

posting in showcase

[molten wren]

i will have to get a runemaster leveled and mess around with this haha, it's interesting

[proper hawk]

thats incredibly messed up, im sure they didnt meant to put that in the patch

[hollow arrow]

alright might be time to try this 3lp dago

[young gust]

Yeah if it's not targetted at disintgrate it has to be a bug with stygian coal or something, otherwise why lol

[hollow arrow]

lmao ice drake idol sold for 20m

christ

[hasty roost]

I love channeled builds, but this game doesn’t make it easy to run them. Like, at all.

Standing still is almost never the correct choice.

[crimson raft]

Yes, that's because standinng still very soon become =death

With enough ward, you can tank stuff though, but i'm gonna assume at a point it's just not enough.

[proper hawk]

I really need to play a channelling build, I think it should be fine if you just treat it as a really fast cast time rather than just sit there as long as you can, but I need to play one so that im not talking out of my ass

[hollow arrow]

for 3lp dago should i do t7 cast or t7 multi

thinking cast cuz i lose some with ladle

[crimson raft]

If i had any idea what a dago was i'd have an answer 😛

[proper hawk]

dragorath's claw

i think

[hollow arrow]

yeah

[crimson raft]

Ah, i take it back ii still don't know as i haven't checked that build 😛

[hollow arrow]

i dont have a good donor, so im checking out shops now

[proper hawk]

def cast for the build you have in mind, tho multi will be more generally applicable if you ever want to use it on a melee build

[hollow arrow]

tru

will see if there's a double stack who knows

[proper hawk]

that said a melee build will want attack speed, so i would just go with cast speed

[hollow arrow]

yeah melee atk spd and multi

[proper hawk]

yeah t7 attack speed would be the dream for my mana strike spark charge build

[sturdy summit]

Penetration is just More Damage, right?

[hollow arrow]

oof i wish

[hasty roost]

I have an unhealthy love for channeled lightning blast. It’s hit based so I don’t have to go into DOT to run it, and it feels powerful. I just haven’t found a good build that involves me actually using it myself. That whole Focus/AA build I did is fine, but LB happens as a proc.

[hollow arrow]

t7 cast, t6 multi

180m for it tho lmao

[proper hawk]

well you add it up with all other penetration and resistance shred and reductions, but all together, yes

[sturdy summit]

great. I'm getting all the numbers together. Looks like we're talking about 1000 increased damage, and 2000 FRM, but I've gotta get all the other sources of pen as well now.

[hollow arrow]

damn some t6 ward gloves get expensive

[proper hawk]

a while back one of perry's build contests had a surprise winner with channeled LB, it was pretty cool, used some interactions that seemed obvious in hindsight but made me rethink channeled LB being bad

[hollow arrow]

specially since mine have a prefix open & int

could get a pretty penny out of it

found one just like mine for 500m

lmao

[proper hawk]

wow cycle prices are absurd wtf

meanwhile im here in legacy still trying to sell my 4LP mad alch ladle for 350 mil

[hollow arrow]

lmao

imma put it up for 400 who knows

t5 int, t6 sealed hp into ward, open prefix slot

[proper hawk]

make sure to check and compare the base type, thats very important

[cold sand]

psh cof is so much more fun than trade

[proper hawk]

good base means a lot

[hollow arrow]

same as mine

hp/mana

i'll do 300

[proper hawk]

ah ok so equally trash nice

[hollow arrow]

ye

[proper hawk]

still 400 mil wow

[hollow arrow]

300 or 400 you think

[waxen kettle]

Hells yeah, magic find is best part of any arpg

[hollow arrow]

im not in a hurry to sell it, but i'll take some gold

[proper hawk]

idk if 300 or 400 mil is better

does it tell you how long that other listing has been up?

[hollow arrow]

can check

1 day

[proper hawk]

hmmm, I think 400 mill makes more sense, thats not that long

you can always price it down if necessary

[hollow arrow]

I'll do 300

cuz theirs is higher roll than mine

I might get that t7 cast t6 multi dagger

[proper hawk]

eh, rune of refinement exists, call it 350

[hollow arrow]

hmmm

[hollow arrow]

im doing a cof mage just for that reason, so i can get them loot drops lmao

[hasty roost]

Having Arcane Ascendance locked behind the Sorc wall gives me physical pain, because I could drastically improve my focus/AA/LB build with RM skills and passives.

[hollow arrow]

3lp abacus rod

wtf

[proper hawk]

well hey if you play channelled LB you dont need the cast speed from arcane ascendance

[sturdy summit]

oh yeah, an extra 34% pen is way better than 100% increased damage

[hollow arrow]

today must be drop day

[hasty roost]

It’s not even the cast speed. It’s the fact that AA causes LB to auto-channel and auto-aim while focus is being channeled.

Focus is great as a damage skill. It locks bosses into flinch animations. It just doesn’t do enough damage eventually and it’s hard to stay safe around projectiles.

[proper hawk]

i uh, what?

[hollow arrow]

does higher corruption give more favor when completing nodes/kills?

feels like these lagon runs aint givin me crap lmao

[hasty roost]

So does disintegrate plus AA. You have to proc one crucial hit, and then a stream of channeled LB kills random mobs around you with fairly impressive range.

[neon lynx]

Can’t u just put enough points into the sorc tree to get it on rm

[orchid basalt]

ty i ended up with some solid stats

[proper hawk]

that sounds like a major bug lmao

unless im missing something

[barren pawn]

intended.

AA is just realyl good combined with channels

Ex is cookin sumn with it

[hollow arrow]

time to fix it cuz disintegrate sucks anyways

[hasty roost]

If you search for my posts, I did a fair amount of blathering about that setup many months ago.

[barren pawn]

Disintegrate doesnt suck

[young gust]

well it does now!

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[barren pawn]

?

[proper hawk]

im very confused, the lightning blast cast from AA is supposed to have a 2 second cooldown?

how could this be intended

[young gust]

soul gamblers fallacy was stealth nerfed to not apply to channelled skills pepelaughers

[barren pawn]

the fck?

Why?

WHY?

[crimson raft]

Check my pic in #👑┃item-showcase

[hollow arrow]

i was waiting for that

[young gust]

hoping it was the wrong patch lol

[hollow arrow]

lmao

[proper hawk]

I think it was an accident and they pushed a change they didnt mean to

[barren pawn]

ITS A FKN CORRUPTION 500 BUILD TOPS, WHY TF WOUDL YOU NERF IT

[crimson raft]

I also hope it's wrong patch\visual text only

[young gust]

can u test it kyo?

[proper hawk]

I think its a change they have planned for next cycle they accidently pushed live tbh

[barren pawn]

Its a dogshit change.

[proper hawk]

i dont have much to base that off of though

[young gust]

hopin ur right encharrion

[latent mural]

can you turn a rare into an exalted by crafting?

[hollow arrow]

its funny cuz why stealth nerf something like that, that's not affecting corr much

but they wont change how busted warlock is still

[barren pawn]

not live.

It snot on my item

[young gust]

I dropped one like 15 minutes ago

[proper hawk]

wait what

[hasty roost]

Hooray for legacy items, then.

[young gust]

u rocking soul gamblers?

[barren pawn]

Read my name.

Then ask that again.

: P

[crimson raft]

Wtf, how can it be on mine but not on yours

[young gust]

Could be legacy server quest version of the item

[barren pawn]

^

[proper hawk]

is it gamblers from before they drop disabled it or soul gamblers, i assume its soul gamblers but just checking

[young gust]

Yeah so it's not soulgamblers fallacy ur looking at?

[crimson raft]

You're not on cycle server but on legacy? Mine was on cycle servers and soul Gamblers, not the free one you used to get

[barren pawn]

im on 1.0.3

current patch

cycle

[young gust]

.4 is current

[barren pawn]

and its not there on the item

might be .04

[young gust]

kain be my hero please

[barren pawn]

let me go back to look

[viscid laurel]

Have you actually tested if this is the case by any chance? (we're investigating)

[warped crow]

np

[proper hawk]

i dont think weve tested it yet, but im sure we are about to lol

[young gust]

I farmed it to go play disintigrate and gave up after reading the item

[barren pawn]

Please, do consider not nerfing it if this is something yall are working on. Its literally rewquired to make disintegrate viable, and doesnt even enable pushing past 400 corr

Ill be testing it in a moment

[viscid laurel]

If you could let me know if it's actually doing it, would be appreciated. We currently believe it's just wording change that got through unintentionally, but functionality is unchanged

[wet yew]

thanks Kain 🙂

[proper hawk]

all hail Kain

[young gust]

Awesome ty kain

[viscid laurel]

To be clear, we are intending to change this interaction, however we're intending to buff disintegrate at the same time to compensate and make the skill stand on its own.

[crimson raft]

phew 🙂

[young gust]

Yeah i was wondering why this came out when judd said 1.1 at best for disintigrate

[barren pawn]

so last night my disintegrate ticked for 300k fully ramped against targets

in the arena

[hollow arrow]

so future nerf got it

[barren pawn]

checking now

[hollow arrow]

[warped crow]

deds

[young gust]

Is this what volatile reversal feels like if ur a mob

[hollow arrow]

yes

[warped crow]

the changes got anomalied

[barren pawn]

I really do hope you leave it functionally the same, but just do something to make it stronger. Bein able to push higher without so much investment into it that you become easy to kill would be wonderful.

[young gust]

Tbf wouldn't it be cooler if it wasnt the only way to play disintigrate

[barren pawn]

Confirmed, damage unchanged.

[warped crow]

if what wasnt?

[crimson raft]

Awesome!

[viscid laurel]

excellent, thank you kindly

[barren pawn]

Hopefully whatever you all have planned for disintegrate makes it stronger than the flat crit from soul gamblers

[warped crow]

it would end up bad if no one wanted to play the skill as a whole tho