you can have 40k ward and no DR
#🧙┃mage
hollow totem
are there any items or blessings in particular I should target first or before others? I feel like maybe the armor blessings and lightning shred blessing?
hearty cypress
which is what runemaster does
most of the time
this is why i want to inform people about sorc
safe grail
you can have like 10k ward w/ 90% DR
and only take like
a 3k ward hit
if that
like that's probably a crit since im not avoid capped either
hearty cypress
t4 julra ice blsat only does 2k dmg on me btw
safe grail
are there any items or blessings in particular I should target first or before o...
on my RM, i went armor %, flat armor, and light shred
hearty cypress
the cone ice thing
safe grail
yea
that's what im refererncing
it does like no dmg to my RM
cause i armor stacked
I think my RM build had roughly 110k EHP
hollow totem
on my RM, i went armor %, flat armor, and light shred
you mean you farmed those quite early or you ran those blessings?
hollow totem
I think my RM build had roughly 110k EHP
ehp?
safe grail
you mean you farmed those quite early or you ran those blessings?
I got those blessings and kept them when i got to empowered monos
EHP = Effective health points
essentially what kind of hit you can take under all sources of DR w/ ward etc
hollow totem
I got those blessings and kept them when i got to empowered monos
ah I see. and ok I thought that's what it meant but was unsure
hollow arrow
usually for julras get away from her, let her cast void pool then dash/teleport to her and it'll keep the pool off of you
what i do at least
safe grail
this isn't hidden or secret tech but
hollow totem
ok will try that in a min gotta make a phone call
safe grail
you can use the dungeon ability
safe grail
right before the clock cast goes off
hollow totem
you can use the dungeon ability
I do and sometimes she follows me and I die that way xD
safe grail
and then dungeon ability back
hearty cypress
at 450% cast speed i just perma stun LMAO
safe grail
and you never get puddle.
hollow arrow
lmao
hollow arrow
hollow arrow
yeah i know, i just do it like that so i can be lazy
only gotta switch dimensions twice for the fight and we good
hmmmm
it's gonna be a spark charge build for sure
just lookin at sorc passives
could do a LL setup
safe grail
another criminally underrated DR tech on mage in general
is Endurance
cause mages can have a smaller life pool, you can get ET VERY easy to be 95-100% of your HP
safe grail
yeah nah it would be a wardless build
hearty cypress
its just like
yea
thats just mana sorc build
4k corr btw
f ur runemage builds
hearty cypress
not against anyone
hollow arrow
i'd prolly do LL ward setup cuz im lazy
hearty cypress
but like
safe grail
w/ ET tech
hollow arrow
low life
safe grail
lol
safe grail
it's using 2/3 or 3/3 of the items. it can do great things for classes like SB
hearty cypress
theres 0 benefit on low life for mage
hearty cypress
to me if u dont die in julra, thats as good as it gets
doesnt matter how long it takes
hollow totem
cause mages can have a smaller life pool, you can get ET VERY easy to be 95-100%...
word? hmmm
safe grail
I don't recommend it if you have no clue what you're doing with the very basics of the game quite yet
hollow totem
alright.
stiff crown
Ll isn't for damage, it's for survivability
You have a higher resting ward, but it conflicts with twisted. So it's one or the other. Twisted can get higher ward eventually though, IMO
hearty cypress
yea idk man
no offense but like
i feel like if u see what mages truly have when it comes to dr
and how to stack dr
ud realise ll is just a waste of stat and gearing
like if u still like playing it, by all means
hearty cypress
if it works for you thats good
hollow totem
what y'all reckon is better? spell crit doubled if 300+ or lightning crit multi?
safe grail
multi
now what would have been truly based
is if i just did the campaign skip
and dropped a 2 LP julras
hearty cypress
id say it depends
hollow arrow
kek
hearty cypress
if ur not critting it feels really bad
mobs dont have infinite amount of hp
if u cast a lot or proc a lot, ur most likely dealing overkill damage
so its best to actually be able to crit
because that in itself is mroe damage
hollow totem
multi
ok thought so but wasn't sure. Also which pieces of gear is best to try and target farm thur prophecies? Rings for red ring helms for prismatic? Or blood of the exlie or telfuns?
safe grail
if ur not critting it feels really bad
if he is playing FC Nova, it doesn't matter much. he has no flat crit unless playing pris gaze
so i guess yeah
it depends on gearing
which he is. i had to go back to the planner lol
hollow arrow
sorc passive tree looks good, specially distant spark with the stun on shock
safe grail
yeah
jabba just started playing stun on shock
that's massive DR value right there
mobs never hit you 🙂
lmfao
hearty cypress
its also not that
tis just ur ability to like, shuti down so many lethal mobs
like if u roll scalebane assassins
errant plank
hollow totem
ok thought so but wasn't sure. Also which pieces of gear is best to try and targ...
Ig I should say most important pieces to get for slams. Obviously heart for fc raanks but that requires me to survive t4 julra lmao
hollow arrow
honestly i'll say without fc on my heart im still doing okay
wheat raft
anyone playing coc meteor ? i'm looking for ideas for the build
hollow arrow
you can aim for FC & int for 2lp and higher
hollow arrow
but 1lp you could try int, but yea requires julra kill lol
proper hawk
cause mages can have a smaller life pool, you can get ET VERY easy to be 95-100%...
There is no benefit to this any more since they patched the interaction between endurance and damage taken to mana, just building more life is better
wheat raft
coc meteor is dead sry <@175281422247002112>
you'll have to elaborate
hearty cypress
tis a build that doesnt scale
and impossible to
cuz set item
until they rework set item ur looking at just being disappointed
wehn u get to certain point
wheat raft
I'm not planning on using the set items to make meteor lightning
safe grail
There is no benefit to this any more since they patched the interaction between ...
the only benefit is playing a wardless build. i said that like a few lines later.
pale cedar
Probably a silly question but when mourning frost says "+1 cold damage to attacks and spells per point of dexterity" does that mean its +1 cold melee AND +1 cold spell? Trying to see if it double dips for frost claw
hollow totem
but 1lp you could try int, but yea requires julra kill lol
wait wouldn't you want fc ranks even with 1lp?
proper hawk
the only benefit is playing a wardless build. i said that like a few lines later...
you would be better off playing your wardless build with more life instead of endurance threshold though
hollow arrow
wait wouldn't you want fc ranks even with 1lp?
im at 24 ranks and honestly ive had no issues with my setup without fc
like maybe in future i might do fc/int heart but for now im okay doing dmg and clearing stuff
safe grail
I disagree but, apples to oranges.
hollow arrow
oranges are better
proper hawk
I disagree but, apples to oranges.
it really isn't, endurance threshold is flat out less survivablity than building health, MoM doesn't change that anymore
hollow totem
I mean I have a 1lp and 2lp heart but only +3fc on relic. So I think I save the 2lp for +3/4 and int
hearty cypress
I'm not planning on using the set items to make meteor lightning
meteor in general cost a lot of mana and the thing about it is that its not very effective at monos
like when u think about what a good clear should be
it cost way too much to clear
safe grail
I know MoM doesn't get affected by it jesus
hearty cypress
its just really inefficient skill
safe grail
I am saying if you built ET on a MoM build, you have DR for the health pool that you have
hollow arrow
yeah it's up to you, it helps cuz i have unstable and omnis lol
wheat raft
I am saying if you built ET on a MoM build, you have DR for the health pool that...
MoM ?
stiff crown
He's driving
safe grail
Mind over matter
safe grail
He's driving
LOL nah. I w@h today
stiff crown
Mansion of Madness
proper hawk
MoM ?
its a term from PoE refering to the keystone in that game called Mind of Matter, that causes a portion of damage to be taken to mana instead of health, sometimes used to refer to the same effect in this game
hearty cypress
the endurance build thing
is redundant
no point doing it with what runemaster does rn
makes 0 sense
what are u tanking really, like
stiff crown
DR stacking!
hearty cypress
like why do u want to focus on defense by that much when ur whole theme is literally just having more agency than anything else otu there in killing
yea but u dont need it
u know what real DR stacking is, self freeze immunity snap freeze
thats legit
proper hawk
also flat endurance threshold is probably the single worst defensive layer in the game
like endurance is good, and % of health as endurance threshold is good, but flat end threshold is awful
stiff crown
Ward Threshold and Stun Avoidance pretty bad too
hearty cypress
we also dont have enough room for affixes
safe grail
so the build that mana stacks sorc
where it has like maxed End % + ET matching HP pool
w/ 1400 for MoM helm
would you armor stack instead?
proper hawk
you would stack health instead
safe grail
okay and in high corruption
proper hawk
instead of end threshold i mean
safe grail
rely on fk ing what
proper hawk
you dont thats why the build is dead
hearty cypress
would you armor stack instead?
was using void gloves btw
no you dont stack health
on that build
u actually want to reduce ur health
hearty cypress
so that ur endurance hit easier
hearty cypress
idk why u think endurance build stacks health btw
u want to trigger that 60% dr
a lot easier
u want to actually
legit just run around with it turned on
all the time
safe grail
that's literally what the build does lmfao
his first hit he takes a chunk to mana and a chunk to HP but it's only like
proper hawk
idk why u think endurance build stacks health btw
there is no endurance build anymore though, threshold is strictly worse than building life now
safe grail
200 HP
wait wtf
SOMEONE LITERALLY
DID THE FKN BUILD
THIS CYCLE
HELLO!?
Are u fkn dense?
safe grail
oop i love this argument
ya know what's worse?
dodge stacking plasma orb
RM Stacking ward
sorc stacking armor + DR and cast speed
Falconer existing
literally argument applied to anything
fk off.
i go feed my dogs now and make breakfast.
proper hawk
thats different, those are completely different builds, im saying in every single circumstance in which you would use one stat, a different stat would accomplish the identical thing but better
hearty cypress
the dr build is for specific purpose and that is pushing corruption without getting punished by it
its for specific style
and if u dont dig it ull never play it
thats how simple it is
like u invalidating it doesnt change that its good for what it is
in fact it has higher ceiling than most rm builds
proper hawk
if they built health it would be strictly better though
hearty cypress
from the way u talk i can also see thatu have next to no hours with mage or sorc mainframe
proper hawk
buddy mage is my main
hearty cypress
that means nothing to me
bc u should understand what i say and agree to it
bc its literally just facts
proper hawk
no because its incorrect
hearty cypress
u cannot build health in endurance build
it makes it redundant
it goes against everything that it does
its a mana builkd
so u take 60% dr without anything else and most of it goes to ur mana
hollow arrow
way i see it, let them build what they want and see how it works
hearty cypress
thats not hard to understand.
hollow arrow
🤷♂️
hearty cypress
no
its not about that
its about understanding the principle of this build
and ur arguing that it should be done otherwise bc whatever this is, is worse apparently
modest pivot
What is DR?
hearty cypress
damage reduction
proper hawk
so u take 60% dr without anything else and most of it goes to ur mana
to be absolutely clear, the 60% DR does not apply to the portion that gets moved to mana, thats an interaction they patched a while ago now
hearty cypress
im not even gonna take anything else other than that
its only worse on like super super high corr
u also dont have enough affix to even build health on that
left tundra
what build are yall fighting about?
proper hawk
I'm fully aware of how endurance threshold stacking builds work, I was there when they were still a thing, hell i made a crappy one for a build contest, they dont work anymore because the DR no longer applies to the damage shifted to mana
covering your entire HP pool with endurance threshold is just flat out less survivability than building health in all circumstances
hearty cypress
but its also about mana building
and evne if its not as effective as it used to be
leaden harness
Someone on and that can help me with Majasa? I really can't beat her second form
hearty cypress
the thing doesnt change
proper hawk
and evne if its not as effective as it used to be
its not that they made it less effective, they literally removed endurance applying to the damage shifted to mana, which was the only reason the build ever existed in the first place, it was literally the only reason to cover your health with end threshold. without that interaction, there is zero reason to build end threshold to cover your life
safe grail
So you’d rather take the remaining 1800 hit w/ 3k hp on a 3k hit where 60% goes to mana vs. taking 700 dmg on a 1.1k hp pool and leeching it back up faster than the 3k
Sounds like a cooked perspective
wheat raft
damn
I wanted to regen mana with flame ward, I just saw it was behind mental aegis
welp
hearty cypress
its not that they made it less effective, they literally removed endurance apply...
but u realise the way u do it, its actually still way worse than anything
the way u do it, u have way less dr than what i do
im 100% aware of what ur saying
i just dont understand why ur solution is actualyl even a solution
cause its not
proper hawk
So you’d rather take the remaining 1800 hit w/ 3k hp on a 3k hit where 60% goes ...
uh yes I would like to take 60% of my health in damage instead of 65% of my health in damage when the second requires exalted endurance threshold in every slot and the first requires a lot less in affixes
wheat raft
what's the most common way to regen mana with sorcerer ?
proper hawk
what's the most common way to regen mana with sorcerer ?
usually either focus or mana strike
wheat raft
I'm looking at focus rn
I don't see anything making it not channeling
I need to look at mana strike
but melee seems like a bad idea
hearty cypress
what's the most common way to regen mana with sorcerer ?
just get man aregen on belt or amulet
proper hawk
I don't see anything making it not channeling
there isn't, the closest thing is null profusion, which triggers the moment you start so you dont need to continue channelling
wheat raft
just get man aregen on belt or amulet
look I honnestly appreciate the effort, I really do
hearty cypress
?
wheat raft
but you're missing the point, it's been 2 times already
maybe you should focus on answering ppl question instead of being dismissive
wheat raft
there isn't, the closest thing is null profusion, which triggers the moment you ...
yeah that's what I've saw too
thank you
hearty cypress
i actually love how u respond with that
wheat raft
eng isn't my main language sometimes it's hard to be "properly" nice I hope I didn't missed it
hearty cypress
i think ur english is fine
but maybe its not because u dont even understand what i was tryign to say
lol
wheat raft
ah
stiff crown
You can make mana strike into ranged but you get less mana. But the mana on critical node bypass the penalty, I believe
wheat raft
You can make mana strike into ranged but you get less mana. But the mana on crit...
I'll def take a look, ty
hearty cypress
im just trying to fast forward the whole thing because theres no real solution to urs other than actually using gear that gives mana regen
autumn crypt
Does ignite on hit works on spells?
stiff crown
Me using Mana Strike 🐸
wheat raft
... this is worrying. My colleagues just all got up and left
hearty cypress
its whatever really, ull see it urself
quick loom
Dropping a +4 mana strike chest is just so sad
hollow arrow
do +4 fireball lmao
proper hawk
I'll def take a look, ty
aside from the that interaction, if you go melee mana strike, the mana cleave node that gives it a cooldown does also multiply the mana gained from the node that gives more mana when negative, its a bit clunky but you get over 100 mana on use when you hit with it
quick loom
Lol
wheat raft
aside from the that interaction, if you go melee mana strike, the mana cleave no...
I prob have to try for myself, to see what's up
proper hawk
its really annoying when you miss with it and it goes on cooldown lmao
wheat raft
maybe Radart is right and building mana regen is the only way
opaque sentinel
spark charge mana strike for the win
proper hawk
spark charge mana strike for the win
my favourite build
wheat raft
the plan so far: spaming free fire balls with homing and high crit chances, cast meteor on crit. Currently I'm looking how to sustain
stiff crown
That’s my build right now
proper hawk
the plan so far: spaming free fire balls with homing and high crit chances, cast...
oh that will be challenging, theres a mage affix for chance to gain mana on runebolt or fireball use, that might help
wheat raft
I saw that on the helmet
proper hawk
does craterborn buff work from triggered meteors?
i dont think it does but i dont remember
wheat raft
it's worrying tho, because the amount is a bit small, and that's like 35%
hearty cypress
u can even pivot into strongmind btw wtih 2-3lp, put mana and mana regen in it
wheat raft
and the problem is, if I have "too much" crit, it will be pretty pointless
hearty cypress
for that meteor build
proper hawk
u can even pivot into strongmind btw wtih 2-3lp, put mana and mana regen in it
strong mind? lmao
hearty cypress
strong mind has base mana
its not bad for meteor build
just so that u have higher base mana
quick herald
Is the in-game skill dps counter on the hotbar reliable? Running nova FC like everyone else, and I went from 6.5k to 4.5k dps when I swapped my exalted chest to unstable core... seems like a massive drop since I'm only losing +13 spell damage and +7% cast speed and +12 int.
wheat raft
ok
autumn crypt
Does Cold Frost claw (with frozen ire) outdamage Lightning Frost claw with Laddle?
proper hawk
Is the in-game skill dps counter on the hotbar reliable? Running nova FC like ev...
its usually fairly reliable for comparison with the same skill, is there maybe something on that exalted chest you aren't thinking of?
crimson raft
Is the in-game skill dps counter on the hotbar reliable? Running nova FC like ev...
No, the numbers there are at best...very approximation. The more complex build\interaction your skill has the more wrong it'll be.
proper hawk
it won't take into account triggered skills thats true
hearty cypress
Does Cold Frost claw (with frozen ire) outdamage Lightning Frost claw with Laddl...
depends on whethert ur doing crit or not
i think ladle is super goated
unborn hamlet
If we're talking raw DMG, lightning laddle is better
hearty cypress
lightning also has shock so it just shreds
autumn crypt
depends on whethert ur doing crit or not
I just really want faster monolith clearing (currently at 500)
hearty cypress
if ur doing rm i cant help u
quick herald
its usually fairly reliable for comparison with the same skill, is there maybe s...
Not on my pc rn so can't confirm, but iircc it should only be the +12 int, maybe a t5 spell dmg or crit roll, and the main stats +7% cast speed and +13 flat spell dmg.
The unstable has a decent roll on it aswell, was like 100% spell dmg or smth.
unborn hamlet
Frostbite claw is more about melting fat bosses down with 300k dots
left tundra
I just really want faster monolith clearing (currently at 500)
LB is very fast at low corr like 500
proper hawk
Not on my pc rn so can't confirm, but iircc it should only be the +12 int, maybe...
just occurred to me, are you using mad alch ladle?
quick herald
Not on my pc rn so can't confirm, but iircc it should only be the +12 int, maybe...
Actually it had mana as 2nd prefix so should only be the Int, cast speed and flat spell dmg thag buff dmg
quick herald
just occurred to me, are you using mad alch ladle?
Yeah I am. But 2k dmg just from 12int seems crazy
proper hawk
Yeah I am. But 2k dmg just from 12int seems crazy
where else are you getting your flat damage from
hearty cypress
adn arcane is really often
lightning blast on sorc also prob the best representation of how good ladle can be
when u see 500% cast speed ull get why rm clear looks normal as a sorc player
with current itemisation, like giga bis, is around 560-570% cast speed without shrine
quick herald
where else are you getting your flat damage from
Don't think anything else gives flat spell dmg (?)
left tundra
idk about rm version
yeah even higher corr it's good i'm farming 1200 with it
hearty cypress
my peak is 485% atm
proper hawk
with current itemisation, like giga bis, is around 560-570% cast speed without s...
going sorc for arcane ascendance? that should be some nuts cast speed lol
hearty cypress
idk why people think straight lb sucks
its so far from it
sorc also has more agency with gear
cuz ur not locked into the same uniques as rms do
proper hawk
Don't think anything else gives flat spell dmg (?)
ok so, the thing about ladle, is that its a low tier base, so the implicit flat spell damage is very low. It has amazing cast speed and a massive damage multi on it, but you have to make up the base damage somehow
the damage loss is almost entirely the 13 flat spell damage you mentioned
quick herald
Yeah totally get that, but where would I otherwise get flat spell dmg from? All builds I've seen have unstable core as BiS chest
dusty steppe
Thinking to reroll frost claw RM, do u need that one unique relic whoch drop from reigns of dragons?
hearty cypress
unstable core is so dog man
idk how u justify that
a t7 cast speed base chest is way way way way way better
quick herald
Thinking to reroll frost claw RM, do u need that one unique relic whoch drop fro...
Not needed. Helps. Most important is +3/4 to frost claw.
proper hawk
Yeah totally get that, but where would I otherwise get flat spell dmg from? All ...
that's interesting, for the plus levels to ele nova?
dusty steppe
Is this fine levelling guide or should I use other? https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/runemaster-leveling-guide
quick herald
Yeah I'm also having my doubts on unstable core now that I got it tbh. I get that technically all of the stats are good but idk
proper hawk
i mean, the mana shouldn't be particularly important, and iirc you said you were proccing nova off frost claw? or am i misremembering
quick herald
I wish there was a proper dps counter in game
hearty cypress
yea theres a cast speed chest base
hollow arrow
its a good starting point with a nonlp, then work on getting static shell higher lp or a good cast chest
safe grail
I might sound like a noob rn, but you can have cast speed on chest?
1.0 has a chest w/ cast speed base
it was an update coming into 1.0
hearty cypress
it also has flat spell damage bonus
safe grail
yeah
unborn hamlet
As in implicit?
safe grail
yes
quick herald
i mean, the mana shouldn't be particularly important, and iirc you said you were...
Yeah it's the basic nova lightning frost claw build with ladle and spark enigma
safe grail
spell dmg and cast speed implicits
hollow arrow
unstable core can be used as a base to something better lol
unborn hamlet
What is the name of it
hearty cypress
iunfortunately none of u ever look at things lol
safe grail
What is the name of it
Tyrant regalia
safe grail
lol yeah
proper hawk
Yeah it's the basic nova lightning frost claw build with ladle and spark enigma
wait its using fragment of the enigma? sorry, didnt realize it was an enigma build, that changes everything, your tooltip is completely irrelevant as it cant take into account spark charges which are all your damage
quick herald
iunfortunately none of u ever look at things lol
It's tyrant regalia, that's the one I've been using so far since the flat spell dmg feels insane
unborn hamlet
For me the freeze rate base one is way better
unborn hamlet
Yea I'm frostbite
hearty cypress
to me that cast speed + spell damage flat is like insane amount of value
u dont need spell damage so
unborn hamlet
I mean I still hit for 1k per hit, and you get like 6 projectiles per claw
So 6k basically if all hit
stiff crown
Yea I'm frostbite
How does damage scaling in Frostbite work? Just stack DOT and stuff?
quick herald
Also, is all ghe investment into crit rate and multiplier really worth it over spell damage% or lightning dmg?
unborn hamlet
How does damage scaling in Frostbite work? Just stack DOT and stuff?
Yeah, you basically just stack frostbite stacks to ridiculous numbers and watch bosses melt
stiff crown
How high we talking?
proper hawk
Also, is all ghe investment into crit rate and multiplier really worth it over s...
yes, crit is an extremely effective damage multiplier. I assume it uses prismatic gaze?
unborn hamlet
If it's a boss that doesn't move around and I can hit him constantly, 300-400k per dot possible
stiff crown
I mean how many stacks is fb
quick herald
yes, crit is an extremely effective damage multiplier. I assume it uses prismati...
Yeah, only have one with +3% though and I binked the LP craft
unborn hamlet
Dunno, the number only goes up to 999, but realistically it's like 3-4k stacks
stiff crown
I see
unborn hamlet
I apply 30-50 stacks a hit
proper hawk
Yeah, only have one with +3% though and I binked the LP craft
yeah, crit is massive, and increased damage is additive with all your other increased damage, including the inc damage that comes from int
stiff crown
Frostbite says increase chance to freeze, does FB itself do the freezing or it just makes it easier for other things to freeze?
proper hawk
you will already have a lot of increased damage just from int so you want other multipliers to take it higher
quick herald
Ye that's fair
hollow arrow
how build goin ex
safe grail
how build goin ex
Knee deep in pivot tables today
Monthly meeting tomorrow so
I gotta work some before i do any build ish
hollow arrow
proper hawk
Ye that's fair
now im really curious, what the hell does the build really need the +levels to ele nova for? its not like you need damage multipliers on ele nova
quick herald
now im really curious, what the hell does the build really need the +levels to e...
Idk, I'll be home in a bit so can check it out better.
hollow arrow
novas dont rly do dmg overall lmao
they do some but it's not really enough to justify using unstable as BiS
proper hawk
yeah unstable on an enigma build is really weird to me
hollow arrow
i mean it gives +1 to all which helps
but i got omnis now so dont rly need it, i plan to either get a good lp static shock or swap to tyrant
proper hawk
yeah I'm wondering if they are using it as a way to get +1 to frost claw actually
quick herald
I've seen some run the lightning-focused piece (cant remember name) that goves a bunch of armor and % dmg dealt to shocked fors for high corruption
proper hawk
oh static shell is very good yeah
hollow arrow
yeah static shell
quick herald
Ye that's the one. Feels like it's mostly needed for high corruption / bossing though, not that big of a benefit when just speedclearing imo
proper hawk
the only reason I could see unstable core potentially justified is as a way to squeeze an extra +1 level to frost claw in, since it has a lot of distant utility nodes that are all useful
but that seems like quite the stretch
hollow arrow
eh i do like the mana bonus from unstable
but can just get the mana blessing later on
proper hawk
well you take the lightning shred blessing over mana
the flat mana is nice i guess but pretty superfluous
hollow arrow
yeah but you want at least over 300 if you taking the extra spell crit or extra lightning dmg
proper hawk
yeah but you want at least over 300 if you taking the extra spell crit or extra ...
true, I find I rarely use those modifiers, but i guess unstable core does help meeting them
quick herald
Idk what's up with my build tbh I have ~400 max mana but still sometimes run out even with 3/3 on the mana refund node and 3/5 on the efficiency node, and 2 frost claw efficiency idols...
hearty cypress
that 300 mana inc damage thing isnt that good
with the cost of it
its not super great
hearty cypress
that one i can find value yea
hollow arrow
yeah thats why i said both
hearty cypress
i think im gonna work on a video for this lightning blast build at least
just not written guide
hollow arrow
thats why i would take mana blessing over light shred
hearty cypress
thats why i would take mana blessing over light shred
hard no on this one
hollow arrow
drop unstable and run static or a good cdr chest
opaque sentinel
For a low-life setup like from Exsanguinous, does health regen help in any way?
hearty cypress
no
proper hawk
thats why i would take mana blessing over light shred
yeah lightning shred is worth way way more than that
wheat raft
this is odd : mana regen doesn't scale with the mana pool ?
proper hawk
this is odd : mana regen doesn't scale with the mana pool ?
nope not at all
hearty cypress
it multiplies over that
wheat raft
this is a problem
hearty cypress
one more time u give me passive aggressive answer ill bonk u
stiff crown
For a low-life setup like from Exsanguinous, does health regen help in any way?
Regen hurts the build
proper hawk
this is a problem
this is why i think mana regen affixes are usually inadequate for mage
hearty cypress
i got a godlike belt btw
opaque sentinel
Regen hurts the build
Oh? How so?
wheat raft
one more time u give me passive aggressive answer ill bonk u
am sorry ? are you talking to me ?
stiff crown
You want low life, regen raises your life
proper hawk
Oh? How so?
if you get health regen, you health will go up, which means you have less missing health, which means you get less ward
opaque sentinel
You want low life, regen raises your life
I thought that the low life build just gave you more ward, so if it was constantly regenerating you would get more ward?
quick herald
But wait what nova lightning fc build is there that Doesn't use enigma?
proper hawk
I thought that the low life build just gave you more ward, so if it was constant...
re-read the item, it gives you ward based on how much health you are missing, not how much it drains
opaque sentinel
Ohhhhh it's 20% of the MISSING health
proper hawk
ideally you would be at 0 health
stiff crown
Yeah, you want high max Hp and low current Hp
proper hawk
But wait what nova lightning fc build is there that Doesn't use enigma?
if you are going by my surprise that you are using enigma, its more a function of me being unfamiliar with where frost claw builds are at post 1.0, most of my frost claw build knowledge is pre 1.0
hearty cypress
thats the big issue with coc meteor
how dog it is to literalyl get ur mana back
ur stuck wtih focus
u use focus in high corr, u die
gg
wheat raft
so like 250% mana regen is kind of the ceiling if i'm not mistaken
that's why like
30 mana per second ?
proper hawk
so like 250% mana regen is kind of the ceiling if i'm not mistaken
yeah mana regen isn't going to even come close to enough
wheat raft
welp
hearty cypress
i told u
hearty cypress
i did
i said ur best bet
is mana regen
because everything else is dog solution
when i said 'i told u'
io was referring to coc meteor being dogwater
stiff crown
🐸
proper hawk
so like 250% mana regen is kind of the ceiling if i'm not mistaken
so if you can trigger craterborn from belt, which iirc you can't but i don't totally remember, you can run the mana on fireball cast node in meteor, plus that helm affix, and that might cover you. if that doesn't work, you could still consider manually casting a meteor every so often to get the craterborn buff for the mana node to work
wheat raft
so if you can trigger craterborn from belt, which iirc you can't but i don't tot...
I'll try
also there's a a node to get mana back after meteor cast
I'll do the math see if it can be usefull
proper hawk
also there's a a node to get mana back after meteor cast
unfortunately it doesnt stack if you cast a second meteor before it finishes refunding
wheat raft
really ?
proper hawk
says on the node i think
wheat raft
welp
they've put a lot of barrier on that skill for a company that allows builds at 2k+ corruption :p
proper hawk
you could go mana tunnel in teleport to get a free meteor cast every so often, also lets you pick up stun immunity off TP
that would cover you for direct cast, getting you craterborn buff
hearty cypress
they've put a lot of barrier on that skill for a company that allows builds at 2...
meteor is a very very old archetype that they never fix
thick nymph
Going a lightning int stack crit mage atm and was sort of planning a build using ideas taken from pinchingloaf/empyrian. Aiming to craft the build to primarily focus on ball lightning/sea of sparks (stride for safety) for clear and single target and frostguard/flameward for defence. I'm just wondering what is better, to use idols/teleport for stun immunity and mobility or use enigma and get stun avoid/immune somewhere else to have another spell on my hotbar?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/om63ZKqA
silk pewterBOT
wheat raft
got a weird one
hearty cypress
Going a lightning int stack crit mage atm and was sort of planning a build using...
whats stun avoid for
wheat raft
flame ward, the node thats takes damage on mana instead of health
thick nymph
no idea just heard its important lol
proper hawk
no idea just heard its important lol
stun immunity is very nice, stun avoid is not great afaik, though it did get reworked recently
proper hawk
u need to exhaust ur ward for ur health tot ake damage
flame ward node is different actually, it sends damage to mana before ward iirc
stiff crown
Stun avoid is the same weight as HP when it comes to chance to be stunned. Just get HP
proper hawk
actually let me double check that
rough python
Is crit avoidance recommended for runemaster frostclaw builds
proper hawk
Stun avoid is the same weight as HP when it comes to chance to be stunned. Just ...
technically, not true anymore, they reworked stun avoid
thick nymph
stun immunity is very nice, stun avoid is not great afaik, though it did get rew...
eh so its probably better to stick with teleport
stiff crown
technically, not true anymore, they reworked stun avoid
Link to the new formula?
wheat raft
flame ward node is different actually, it sends damage to mana before ward iirc
jesus so that's not a good lead eitehr
crimson raft
Is crit avoidance recommended for runemaster frostclaw builds
usually reduced bonus dmg from crits, since you take the catalyst node that already give you some of that
proper hawk
Link to the new formula?
its in the game guide but i can get you a link from LEtools
rough python
Ah ok thank you.
proper hawk
jesus so that's not a good lead eitehr
so iirc for normal damage to mana affixes its ward takes full damage, then some of the damage to health gets shifted to mana, while the flame ward node causes some of the damage to health AND ward to get shifted to mana, however I can't find confirmation of that on a cursory look so I could be mistaken
wheat raft
ok
crimson raft
So at lv 100 with no stun avoidance, you can only take a hit for 12,5% of your hp before getting stunned if i get the math right?
How does that work with ward?
proper hawk
your current ward is added to max health iirc
yeah its in the formula on the page even, max health + current ward on the left
stiff crown
https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/stun here
Thanks. It’s more meaningful at least
crimson raft
...ward OP, again.
stiff crown
Stun isn’t an issue until you get to high corruption where things hurt
proper hawk
...ward OP, again.
i actually find that its super dangerous with ward, since if you take a big hit that stuns you, you are now way more likely to be stunned again, making you vulnerable to getting chain stunned to death
crimson raft
i actually find that its super dangerous with ward, since if you take a big hit ...
But that same hit would have killed a health char 10x over, so 😄
stiff crown
It can’t be both. There can only be one
proper hawk
But that same hit would have killed a health char 10x over, so 😄
yeah, but thats a function of current broken sources of ward from warlock and healing hands more than ward itself
crimson raft
You can easily get 10k+ ward on RM bossing, so eeh.
hearty cypress
10k ward means nothing if u have no damage reduction
or less
sorc can tank more with less ward than rm
crimson raft
Frost guard 30% Flameward whatever % etc so sure.,
proper hawk
10k ward is fine, the recovery is terrible, its 20-25+k ward thats getting into op territory
hearty cypress
i can max out my armor actually with focus + falme ward + aegis
recovery is easy when ur sorc and have 485% cast speed
crimson raft
Lemme check my guy
proper hawk
like, honestly, if you cant get more than like 8k peak ward, you shouldnt be going ward
10k ward is like the minimum to be comfortable imo
dusty steppe
Who had best levelling guide to RM? Im noob
proper hawk
Let’s talk in eHP to avoid confusion
eh, the life build has access to the same defensive layers as the ward build does aside from LL bladedancer or primalist, so I think the direct comparison is fine
hearty cypress
10k ward is like the minimum to be comfortable imo
this is false tbh
let it be known that i tanked 800 corr corpse dragon wtih 8k ward only
and it only ate 3k of my ward
not mana sorc btw
proper hawk
flame ward is good stuff
dusty steppe
crying on corner and missing my 30k ward paladin
stiff crown
eh, the life build has access to the same defensive layers as the ward build doe...
I’m being facetious
hearty cypress
like i can tank 300 corr spirits of fire 3 bosses at at time
with only 5k ward
ur understanding of damage reduction is really bad
i dont even have 100% crit avoid
and only 47% fire res
crimson raft
Got to 16k ward tanking Orobyss before he died, but only 250c so eh.
proper hawk
I said to be comfortable, in my opinion, not that it was mandatory
and also, im not talking about bossing
bossing shifts the equation heavily in wards favour
hearty cypress
yea but ur also leaving out a huge bit about why certain amount of ward is good
actualy not really
most bosses have dot btw
and itll destroy ur ward
i literally sit in everything the boss deos
incl the dot necrotic pool
ward generation is only bad if you dont have cast speed
stiff crown
High ward with moderate DR can be the same as moderate ward with high DR. No one really cares about raw numbers without all the context, it should be understood
hearty cypress
except its so different between builds
proper hawk
ok you know what you have a point, there is an important point I left out, if you hit 8k ward but your retention is low and you just have high generation, you are also doing fine
proper hawk
as in, next to no cdr stat
lmao what they get a portion of their int as CDR
hearty cypress
whats ur cdr
yea but u dont get that from gear too
sorc gets free 20% cdr, i understand u can get more from that scaling
crimson raft
Just running around clearing, numlock popping flameward\Reowynns, i'll reach around 10k ward in an echo, no boss
hearty cypress
but im sitting at 94% cdr
safe grail
they can get CDR from gear too
crimson raft
silk pewterBOT
stiff crown
RM gets 1% per 4 In
proper hawk
yea but u dont get that from gear too
nothing prevents RM from getting CDR from gear, what?
zinc scroll
How does Elemental proc off Frost claw? Do I need a unique?
proper hawk
How does Elemental proc off Frost claw? Do I need a unique?
node in frost claw tree, at the top
stiff crown
CDR gets less effective the more you have anyway
quick herald
Yea so @proper hawk this change from the exalted to unstable core gets my hotbar dps to go from 6.5k to 4.7k on frost claw (spark charge ladle + enigma setup).
https://imgur.com/a/ItPaufE
junior moss
just got my first frost claw +lvl shard.... at least since i tuned my filter for it on my mage... around 40h in... is it really that rare or just bad luck? a relic with that stat is also still to be find...
safe grail
just got my first frost claw +lvl shard.... at least since i tuned my filter for...
very rare
t6/t7 selling for like 20/60m respectively.
proper hawk
its kinda rare but that does sound very unlucky
quick herald
Took me 80 hours on my rm to get first exalted + to frost claw... with COF gridning only relics for 3 days
junior moss
t6/t7 selling for like 20/60m respectively.
never played merchants guild so i cant relate those numbers, but it sounds absolutly crazy
proper hawk
Yea so <@114074530372124675> this change from the exalted to unstable core gets ...
also yeah, like i said earlier, i didnt realize you were playing a fragment of hte enigma build, unfortunately tooltip dps actually has no relation to your actual damage on that build because it cant calculate spark charges
junior moss
the thing is. without those frost claw lvls i might not be able to clear t4 floors 😄
but ill give it a shot. tyvm
wet lintel
what build are you playing
junior moss
frost claw nova. or in better words: eye bleed build
wet lintel
silk pewterBOT
hearty cypress
that build igves me headache
severe juniper
Looking for a fairly strict filter for lightning runemaster builds. Any suggestions?
junior moss
damn. this server is nuts. came for a problem. got all other problems solved in minutes
thank you!
wet lintel
yw
wet lintel
ye
onyx glen
yeah its pip
stiff crown
Isn’t that pip?
onyx glen
you just need an omni nbd
stiff crown
lol
wet lintel
nah
hearty cypress
gl with that gear grind
wet lintel
can use unstable over omni
wet lintel
if you're cof?
wet lintel
i mean
wet lintel
if the person is struggling to find +fc levels
they're obv early game
and omni isn't needed to play the build
wet lintel
huh
hearty cypress
t4 sanctum
thick nymph
omni drops in sanctum?
proper hawk
lmao
thick nymph
mb
hearty cypress
and relic
wet lintel
ok
hearty cypress
if u cant make it work just go lightning blast rm for awhile
get ur gear
why force it when u have nothing
proper hawk
pretty sure farming t4 sanctum is worse than just farming prophecies tbh
hearty cypress
false
quick herald
Farm both at the same time 😉
sturdy summit
why force it when u have nothing
because people think that endgame builds are a straight line from level 1, and expect to be able to use it immediately and skip the rest of the game.
hearty cypress
because people think that endgame builds are a straight line from level 1, and e...
xD
safe grail
fax
hearty cypress
unfortunately people who make th ebuild gudies have 0 iq
i hate when people dont understand how to teach gearing
tardy comet
Damn lol
hearty cypress
im cof 10 and sanctum is abotu the best place u can find to grind t7 gear
and it has been for the longest time
proper hawk
tbh I hate levelling as one build to swap into the build i actually want to play, but i do recognize my suffering is self inflicted
quick herald
Don't quite have all the +to frost claw yet, do I run Ever onward (3rd bounce) or frozen malice (second bounce homes)? Heard smth that ever onward actually helps with mana even though it's more expensive ot use
hearty cypress
it has the most unique mobs int he game
and it also has no mods so its consistent, u deal all of ur damage
sturdy summit
i hate when people dont understand how to teach gearing
Funny you say that, because the past two days I've been working on writing a guide with the goal of teaching that :p
hearty cypress
send it over ill revise
junior moss
hm, i dont know, until now the build works pretty well. sipping potions for mana with experimental mana per pot on belt. only ~300 corruption but i think i can push higher. even without fc lvl+. and on bosses it doesnt matter anyway with foot of mountain
hearty cypress
if u like it thats ifne
i think ur perspective will change once u see other builds
sturdy summit
send it over ill revise
I will have to publish first to be able to let others see it, but I will be soliciting feedback for an update afterwards.
hearty cypress
im yet to see a single runemaster seeing mine and not convinced its better when it comes to clear speed
my convert rate is 100%
junior moss
so whats ur build?^^
proper hawk
im cof 10 and sanctum is abotu the best place u can find to grind t7 gear
see, I'm pretty sure you being at CoF 10 is probably a huge part of that, since you are getting a lot of rare drops to turn into exalts, but at lower ranks you wont be getting nearly as many exalts and I think exalted relic prophecies will be more efficient at lower ranks, but i could be wrong on that
sturdy summit
im yet to see a single runemaster seeing mine and not convinced its better when ...
let me see!
hearty cypress
see, I'm pretty sure you being at CoF 10 is probably a huge part of that, since ...
false
tardy comet
If a unique have str lines can I slam more str lines
hearty cypress
im 4.5k hours in epoch btw, 200 hours in 1.0
junior moss
only at 9. made many chars to see what is the most fun. pretty hard to farm those cof lvls when u dont lvl over 90 😄
hearty cypress
sanctum has been great
sturdy summit
If a unique have str lines can I slam more str lines
yes, affixes and unique modifiers are separate
hearty cypress
whether or not u have cof10
tardy comet
yes, affixes and unique modifiers are separate
Ty
hearty cypress
let me see!
i can screenshare only
royal dock
Where can I find to get more skill pts to go beyond 20?
sturdy summit
Where can I find to get more skill pts to go beyond 20?
get levels, do side quests
oh, wait, skills
sturdy summit
Where can I find to get more skill pts to go beyond 20?
head, body, and relic slots can give you +level affixes. Each slot has a different set of skills on it.
royal dock
head, body, and relic slots can give you +level affixes. Each slot has a differe...
alright
sturdy summit
prayer
junior moss
seems to be concerning for many players. good im not alone 😄
sturdy summit
make use of your exalted relic prophecies, and hope something good drops. Make sure you're farming at least 200 corruption.
tardy comet
I need to start doing prophecies lol
tardy comet
t4 sanctum
What build are you playing
hearty cypress
What build are you playing
mine
tardy comet
Mines?
proper hawk
im 4.5k hours in epoch btw, 200 hours in 1.0
4.5k hours in LE, 200 of which post 1.0, but you only joined the official LE discord Feb 23 this year? like its not totally unreasonable you only joined hte discord now but it does seem a little suspect
tardy comet
4.5k hours in LE, 200 of which post 1.0, but you only joined the official LE dis...
lol what’s the point of this
hearty cypress
4.5k hours in LE, 200 of which post 1.0, but you only joined the official LE dis...
ive been palying since 0.7.3
i can even tell u the chronological order of what build was broken for sorc
tardy comet
What’s broken for mage right now
I am tired of being melee
I wanna go back to being mage
cloud vault
just share the planner
proper hawk
lol what’s the point of this
there wasnt a point honestly, i probably shouldnt have even posted that
tardy comet
You running sorc?
hearty cypress
ya
proper hawk
im tired and wasnt really thinking
tardy comet
Damn going against the tide
hearty cypress
im the og lightning blast sorc
tardy comet
there wasnt a point honestly, i probably shouldnt have even posted that
Nah I get you, radar tone is a bit harsh haha
sturdy summit
the lightning blast from the past
tardy comet
im the og lightning blast sorc
Your mine using lightning?
sturdy summit
⛏️
tardy comet
I like lightning
But I heard lighting don’t go far in farming
But maybe because I suck
tardy comet
Sure
hearty cypress
only cuz i got slightly offended LMAO
tardy comet
How do you want to do it
junior moss
could be missunderstood 😄
neon lynx
iLl sCrEeNsHaRe fOr aTtEnTiOn bUt wOnT pOsT a pLaNneR
hearty cypress
i dont spoonfeed information sry
sturdy summit
I decided to start a new runemaster using the same build I'm running on my main to test my own leveling advice and figure out exactly when certain breakpoints line up.
quasi basalt
iLl sCrEeNsHaRe fOr aTtEnTiOn bUt wOnT pOsT a pLaNneR
😂😂😂
tardy comet
How much dmg is enough damage to farm
I keep thinking we need a lot but it doesn’t seem like that?
silk pewterBOT
proper hawk
lmao i was typing out a message about how he doesnt have to share his planner if he doesnt want to but i guess you just went and got it yourself
hearty cypress
i did say unless people look for it
tardy comet
How do you man hunt like that
neon lynx
Dudes name is his discord
hearty cypress
the planner doesnt even do anything
cause i literally said that the build is literally just cast speed
neon lynx
U just search it in lastepochtools
hearty cypress
adn people still ask for planner
like its that hard to figure out
@safe grail figured out most of it without even looking at mine
neon lynx
I mean. It’s lightning blast
hearty cypress
i just cant believe some people with the same access of information as me cant figure it out
sturdy summit
How much dmg is enough damage to farm
can you kill things pretty much as you move through the map? If you keep having to stop for a really long time to clear small packs of trash, you don't have enough damage. The thing that takes the longest should be the running.
neon lynx
It’s not hard to figure out
hearty cypress
but you really cant figure it out
cuz u prob never ever look at the gmae without going on youtube watching guides
like other people
its understandable
neon lynx
There’s no need for me to go figure out a inferior build
sturdy summit
no
quick herald
Can I somehow quickly get my current build in lastepochtools or do I have to manually make it there?
sturdy summit
😭😭
although there is some useful information on maxroll, tier lists are so low, they're negative useful.
hearty cypress
the only thing rm is good at is killing bosses
i can agree that rm is better at that with bigger damage scalign thru invocations
but u cannot beat lightning blast for clear man
proper hawk
Can I somehow quickly get my current build in lastepochtools or do I have to man...
yeah theres an import function
hearty cypress
i can crit 48k thru one single jolt cause spark charge does 200% more damage
and it cost me 0 mana
quick herald
Yeah thanks, was in the "my builds" section so didn't see it
proper hawk
theres an icon on the left side of the planner actually
safe grail
and it cost me 0 mana
it costs u 8 dont lie
quick herald
Ye was easy, this is my pitiful build rn
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
safe grail
u 5head
proper hawk
Ye was easy, this is my pitiful build rn
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
you need to use share to get a link to paste
quick herald
Wait yea I'm stupid, mb
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWX6KY0B
silk pewterBOT
thick nymph
is quintessence of triumph bad compared to spending 5 points for a brand of deception and getting celestial doom instead?
hearty cypress
based ferebor user
thick nymph
i think i was getting baited with it because my ward averages around 3k currently
quick herald
ngl the +17 int frmo ferebor is pretty nice, don't have any good lp unique rings either so
proper hawk
based ferebor user
ferebor is great
safe grail
i'd argue bute in there too, but
proper hawk
Wait yea I'm stupid, mb
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWX6KY0B
its not necessarily an issue, but im noticing a lack of CDR on your belt and boots
safe grail
it depends if slammed or not
hearty cypress
no yea bute too
proper hawk
barbute is also great, 23 int on one slot is sweet
shrewd rain
Any must have uniques for shatterstrike build?
safe grail
cause you can get some sick value out of a sealed exalted
shrewd rain
Or even any decent uniques.
safe grail
w/ crit avoid tossed in for funsies
proper hawk
Wait yea I'm stupid, mb
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWX6KY0B
also im fairly sure that swaddling is just worse than exalted gloves
hearty cypress
also im fairly sure that swaddling is just worse than exalted gloves
false to false
proper hawk
with +2 to LB
damn, thats pretty awesome
hearty cypress
that comment is so criminally wrong
swaddling is amazing when it comes to dealing damage during endurance period
proper hawk
that comment is so criminally wrong
that swaddling, as in the swaddling he is currently using, not swaddling in general, swaddling is great
hearty cypress
x% more damage vs low health
any swaddling is already better than whatever gloves he can get
thast the truth
u can have 0 stat swaddle and its already better for casters
proper hawk
I think you are really overvaluing the more damage vs low health mod, swaddling is really nice for the all attributes and attack and cast speed combined with good WW affixes, all of which low rolled on his
13% more spell damage vs low life only averages out to ~4% more overall damage
sturdy summit
I'm not sure how to value the more damage, but the cast speed is definitely why I like swaddling
hearty cypress
ur crazy lol
vs boss swaddle is actually unmatchable
because the endurance period comes during low life
thast when bosses are most tankies
t
sturdy summit
it's always the last 35%? and do they always have the standard 20% endurance?
hearty cypress
some bosses actually get tankier faster
proper hawk
oh no the 20% damage reduction that makes the last 20% of their life take 25% longer? like thats really not a big deal and im not even sure enemies get the baseline 20% endurace to begin with without echo modifiers
sturdy summit
yeah, I've never been clear on how enemy endurance works if you don't have the echo mod,
proper hawk
even if the mono boss has a full 60% endurance, which would only happen from stacking the echo mod, that mod on the gloves would still only give you ~7.5% more damage on average. and like, thats alright, but thats also the absolute top end in the most niche scenario
sturdy summit
that makes them a good item if you can get decent rolls on them, but I can't at this moment imagine anything competing with shackles
proper hawk
that makes them a good item if you can get decent rolls on them, but I can't at ...
shackles? on the enigma build linked above that we were talking about?
sturdy summit
oh, no, I'm sure the enigma build gets plenty of ward retention from stacking int.
proper hawk
oh ok lmao
tbh i think ward retention tends to be a bit overrated, you definitely need some, but its recovery that kills you on a ward build, and retention doesnt really help with that, it just makes your peak higher
sturdy summit
it's one variable in a quadratic equation, you know what I mean?
autumn crypt
Does frostbite shackles work even on lightning claw build?
proper hawk
well it would still give you the ward retention, but that build already has lots
hearty cypress
tbh i think ward retention tends to be a bit overrated, you definitely need some...
hard disagree
sturdy summit
Does frostbite shackles work even on lightning claw build?
if you can get them with LP, the only modifier that really matters is the cold resist -> ward retention conversion. However, any build that stacks int gets plenty of ward retention, which makes them most useful to dot builds, for whom int is not as useful.
shell fern
this chat was so nice before radart came back
sturdy summit
the frostbite shackles are one of the most appropriately named items in the game, because frostbite builds are shackled to them
shell fern
it was so peaceful when he was gone
hearty cypress
people talk about the game and not abotu other people
autumn crypt
if you can get them with LP, the only modifier that really matters is the cold r...
Got it thank you for clarifying. I might try swaddling on my build first. Gonna spend a fortune rolling 15+ weavers later 🤣
hearty cypress
if thats not u thats sad, but ill allow it
proper hawk
if you can get them with LP, the only modifier that really matters is the cold r...
are you refering to enigma builds vs dot builds, or just spell damage builds vs dot builds, because dot does still get 4% damage per int, but obv that is indeed less than enigma builds also getting flat
royal dock
Does buying cof item from a vender if head, chest, relic have a chance giving you a skills?
zealous bronze
i am spellblade i am the alpha
quick herald
its not necessarily an issue, but im noticing a lack of CDR on your belt and boo...
Does cdr really do anything though for me? I mean flame rush is 2.9 sec cd so I can have perma buff uptime from it
shell fern
i am spellblade i am the alpha
if ur flamereave spellblade ur giga-alpha
shrewd rain
i am spellblade i am the alpha
let me guess, shatterstrike?
proper hawk
Does cdr really do anything though for me? I mean flame rush is 2.9 sec cd so I ...
flame ward is love, flame ward is life
zealous bronze
no comment
shell fern
no comment
shatter strike, shame on you
sturdy summit
are you refering to enigma builds vs dot builds, or just spell damage builds vs ...
frostbite and ignite don't get increased damage from int. I'm taking off a piece that has only int on it, and my frostbite damage stat isn't changing like it does when I wear Increased Elemental Damage or Freeze Rate Multiplier (Snowdrift). The standard dot debuffs are not spells.
quick herald
flame ward is love, flame ward is life
Ima be honest I never cast flame ward... I just have it to proc when I get stunned, could aswell not be on my hotbar..
hearty cypress
Ima be honest I never cast flame ward... I just have it to proc when I get stunn...
tbh u should change htis
bc flame ward has a lot of DR aspect to it
safe grail
"Tbh I dont hit free 30% DR and ward"
hearty cypress
the auto flame ward during stun is so f bad i cant even
proper hawk
frostbite and ignite don't get increased damage from int. I'm taking off a piece...
ailments inherit the damage modifiers of hte skills that apply them, if its not working thats a major bug
shell fern
frostbite and ignite don't get increased damage from int. I'm taking off a piece...
it doesnt straight out increase your frostbite dmg on character sheet but it does increase the frostbite your certain skills inflict if they have the int tag.
sturdy summit
seriously?
hearty cypress
it doesnt straight out increase your frostbite dmg on character sheet but it doe...
no it doesnt
shell fern
ailments inherit the damage modifiers of hte skills that apply them, if its not ...
it is working it just doesn't show on character sheet.
shell fern
no it doesnt
yes it does, shut up radart
quick herald
I'm not pushing high cr, I never die unless I'm afk... Don't really need the dr right now. I literally play one handed with rubnic invocation and flame rush on m3 and m4
sturdy summit
yes, the initial hit damage is from frost claw, not from frostbite
shell fern
you know nothing, pls stay quiet radart
sturdy summit
I need to understand this properly, preferably with some kind of evidence
because I'm about to give advice to not stack int
when doing frostbite
proper hawk
seriously?
it can't show on the character sheet because it doesnt know what skill you are using to apply it and that skill could have different attribute scaling
shrewd rain
bc flame ward has a lot of DR aspect to it
Where is this CDR for flame ward that you speak of?
shell fern
because I'm about to give advice to not stack int
it's still by far better to stack frm(if using snowdrift) or elemental dmg over time for frostbite
shrewd rain
Fair.
hearty cypress
being able to use flame ward at will is better
cuz u might want to stack ur ward thru ward ret bonus or just anticipating incoming burst
sturdy summit
it's still by far better to stack frm(if using snowdrift) or elemental dmg over ...
okay, that's what I'm doing, good. But you're saying that I should still see frostbite damage go up by 4% increased when I apply it with frost claw?
proper hawk
okay, that's what I'm doing, good. But you're saying that I should still see fro...
precisely
hearty cypress
frostbite doesnt scale off spell dmg
proper hawk
radart shush ppl are talking
just because hes incorrect doesnt mean you should be condescending and rude
sturdy summit
is dot damage random or will one stack always hit for the tick amount? man, I need to test this on dummies with a character that only applies a single stack at a time...
serene flint
The dragon mage skillset under sorceror, seems to be super underpowered at the end of the tree. It is 10% ele dmg basically for a different element than the skill we use it with. Now I am using trielement nova which is probably the designed skill for it's use, and even with this spec 1 point does not worth only 10% increased dmg this late of the game, which is kinda hilarious. It is not multiplicative. Am I missing something or it is just a horrible balance.
hearty cypress
i just dont believe it works that way
legitimately
theres no specific affix that implies that
shell fern
just because hes incorrect doesnt mean you should be condescending and rude
you clearly dont know him. but i'll tone it down.
hearty cypress
if it does work that way, it should be hotfixed
idk what i did to u or ur mom
but i dont even remember u
u act like i just kicked ur dog lol
shell fern
but i dont even remember u
yeah thats all good that you dont remember be, i had forgotten about you aswell since you were gone for quite a while. but i had to correct your wrong advice multiple times ingame with a bunch of other ppl. you try to act like you know it all when in reality you have a lot of wrong info.
crystal hollow
rip me. Can't do the build I want unless I get a +3 frostclaw relic to gamble
proper hawk
frostbite doesnt scale off spell dmg
the attribute scaling on most of mages skills is 4% increased damage per intelligence, not 4% increased spell damage per int, and those stats are carried down to the ailments it applies
neon lynx
when you are clearly clueless
dont be mean. hes still trying to figure out game basics after 4500 hours
hearty cypress
the attribute scaling on most of mages skills is 4% increased damage per intelli...
yea we know that
hearty cypress
but i eman like if thats ur actual thing
proper hawk
yea we know that
but you just said frostbite doesnt get the increased damage per int? so which is it
soft elm
3LP frozen ire but no spell dmg/mana, nice RNG
hearty cypress
cause i didnt know that people think thats actually worth it
im surprised u even care about that amount
sturdy summit
the attribute scaling on most of mages skills is 4% increased damage per intelli...
there's a tooltip that say that dot damage isn't based on the damage of the spell that applied it, which throws confusion on the whole mess.
autumn crypt
Something that I don't understand is the use of blood of exile, does it boost our damage if we use laddle?
proper hawk
i think i was referring to scaling off ladle
my apologies, it must have gotten lost in the middle there sorry
hearty cypress
like 400% inc damge is actualy not that big of a deal
sturdy summit
I'm not going to be satisfied until I test it and get some evidence one way or another.
hearty cypress
the question is do u really believe that 400% inc damage is worth talking about
in a context of dot
shell fern
im surprised u even care about that amount
he wanted to know how it works, not if its meaningful. and you barge in stating false stuff all over the place and then go back on your word maybe just talk less.
hearty cypress
nothing i said was false.
shell fern
you are even confused yourself now what you said lmao
hearty cypress
i just cant believe u even mention something so trivial and insignificant
autumn crypt
its just for int stacking and move speed
Wouldn't the arena boots be better then as it gives resistance+ elemental damage and move speed? Vaion something
hearty cypress
but its ok
neon lynx
Wouldn't the arena boots be better then as it gives resistance+ elemental damage...
int is the most important thing for spark builds