🧙┃mage

[rare hare]

but there are required uniques

[safe grail]

The uniques wont be the issue

The +3/4 to frostclaw slammed on a twisted heart will be

Just ask @neon lynx and i lmao

[gritty pagoda]

yeah thats hitting a T7 slam

[safe grail]

You can very easily play frostclaw in early empowered monos tho

[rare hare]

I hit monoliths on my runemaster few hours ago so I dont have anything really

[safe grail]

Yeah. Claw will do just fine. Assuming it is crit frostclaw and not frostbite

[gritty pagoda]

honestly just keep at it with the current build and get your blessings + reach empowered

[rare hare]

so far crushing it, but kinda helpless for what gear I should go now before uniques

[still stump]

you can pretty much play anything in early monos

[rare hare]

frostbite 😦 😄

wrong reply

[gritty pagoda]

import your current build to last epoch tools and link it if you want some pointers on it

[rare hare]

will try, never did that

[safe grail]

Lmao like none of the frostbite items can transition over to spark charge is the issue

[gritty pagoda]

true ^

[safe grail]

Imo start slowly transitioning to crit frostclaw

And then play that until you get stuff for spark charge frost claw

[rare hare]

ah, thanks. Will do, I love sstacking frosstbite, but if items can be moved over, then its bad hehe

[gritty pagoda]

crit (lightning convert) frost claw + lightning blast (with the dagger) would work as a mid transition build I think?

[safe grail]

That’s actually an endgame build lol

[gritty pagoda]

beans

I've never done a frost claw build b4

[safe grail]

He would likely play claw + runebolt w/ mana gen nodes

That’s what i did

[gritty pagoda]

smart

[safe grail]

I moved to the build you spoke about because Dep had developed a build like that

[rare hare]

is there any ,,guide,, or planner for this? if I should start googling

[safe grail]

Yeah ironically enough the other frostclaw build on maxroll will suffice lol

[neon lynx]

And it’s definitely not transition friendly 😂

[safe grail]

No it is NOT

Lmao

[still stump]

experimental mod that converts health to ward is so good

[gritty pagoda]

looks at current lightning meteor funnie build

I love my int stacking sorc

[neon lynx]

I tried it about half a dozen different times and had to go back to my previous build while leveling lol

[safe grail]

Lol

Tbh pinchedloaf’s build wasnt doing it for me

[gritty pagoda]

at least respecing is easy

[safe grail]

Your build scratches that itch lmao

[neon lynx]

Yeah it was just annoying

Cuz I started rm cuz I had this build in my head

And every time I would try it, it would just fall on its face

[sturdy summit]

that guy has 13 unspecced points in Static Orb, wtf

[neon lynx]

Until it clicked

[safe grail]

It do be like that

[rare hare]

he said you dont need points on orb on that build

[sturdy summit]

you still put the points somewhere, though

[neon lynx]

You just throw them wherever

It’s just there to proc lightning aegis lol

[rare hare]

yeah, thats your build?

[neon lynx]

Nah

[gritty pagoda]

is crit frost claw better on runemaster or sorc I'm assuming its runemaster

[neon lynx]

But at one point I was using orb for the same thing

It only has 1 purpose

[sturdy summit]

everything is better on runemaster, because runemaster can tank

[gritty pagoda]

oh well back to lightning meteor

[sturdy summit]

vilatria's storm crown is amazing, do you use the full set?

[gritty pagoda]

yeah converting meteor to lightning makes the star dust node in meteor's tree giga juice

80% more non fire damage, when all your damage is lightning 👍

then just normal int stack, low life ward

[neon lynx]

Heh. Silly sorcs having to play LL to get ward

[gritty pagoda]

its fun critting for 100k at like level 60

[sturdy summit]

that's a big crit

[gritty pagoda]

but on Etera sorc needs more mana regen at the rate I'm casting big spells at

[rare hare]

checking maxroll frostclaw build and there is not travel skill, oof. that would be not fun

[gritty pagoda]

simply have so much ward you dont die

or turn a different skill into a travel skill

[twilit jetty]

Is there a bug with ward or is mage broken?

[rare hare]

I am kinda used to Path of exile, so my finger need to press some travel skill on E bind 😄

[next lance]

ward itself is overtuned

[sturdy summit]

you take elemental nova off your bar and use unspecced teleport or flame rush, according to taste

[twilit jetty]

Whenever i get to 0 HP ward keeps me alive even if it goes abysmally low (5-10)

[next lance]

sheer volume is king over actual defensive skills due to the heightened damage

and defense pierce

[gritty pagoda]

does the game track hp to a decimal point?

[rare hare]

I am using flame rush now and its good, so I will unspec nova then. ty

[sturdy summit]

no, you don't unspec nova

[sturdy summit]

you use unspecced traversal

[rare hare]

ah, my bad, didnt read it properly

[sturdy summit]

👍

[sacred ruin]

Runemaster is better then sorc by alot

[rare hare]

ah yeah, I am dumb, its in guide aswell

I didnt check bar image

[sturdy summit]

I think they could have done a better job of making it clear what the specced skills are and what the bar skills are.

[rare hare]

I think its alright. I am just used to poe tools where you can see everything + speccing skills is new to me

[twilit jetty]

So how do i share my short vid on what happens with my char lol

[gritty pagoda]

slap it on youtube and link it?

[twilit jetty]

HP is literally at 0 at some points and no ward and still alive

[sturdy summit]

no HP and no ward? That sure does sound weird.

[twilit jetty]

https://youtu.be/IQ-lNxGDVb4

[gritty pagoda]

I wonder if the health display is rounding down for some reason

[twilit jetty]

Damn didnt know the quality was so bad lol

[gritty pagoda]

all good

[twilit jetty]

But yeah it shows what happens

[gritty pagoda]

it does appear you should be dead

slap that over in the bug report forum?

[sturdy summit]

the ward is changing so quickly, I have to set it to the slowest speed and watch it again. Is it really hitting 0?

[gritty pagoda]

I put it on 0.25 and it looked like they had no ward

[versed geyser]

hi all is there a viable volcanic orb build

[sturdy summit]

yeah, it does look like the ward number clearly goes away sometimes

[unborn hamlet]

its the endurance keeping them alive

the extra yellow health

[twilit jetty]

Before the halfway point of the vid if you go frame by frame there is a part that shows that its 0 ward and 0 hp

Is not endurance just % DR at a threshold?

afaik

[sturdy summit]

how does the yellow health relate to endurance? I thought that just reduce the damages, but how does it keep you alive once you've already hit 0?

[abstract abyss]

Runic invocation can't be made to be a rune maker itself for immutable order, confirm?

[unborn hamlet]

endurance treshold or w/e its the suffix/prefix called

it adds an extra layer of health

its mostly used on paladins tho

[sturdy summit]

wait, endurance threshold begins at 0 and counts negative? I thought it started at endurance threshold and counted until 0.

[unborn hamlet]

if u play it at 0.25 speed

in the last second

u can see the yellow bar going down

[gritty pagoda]

everyone has 20% of their life as base endurance threshold

[sturdy summit]

so everyone needs to drop to -20% hp to die?

[twilit jetty]

So its not a bug but im actually a god gamer

I see

[gritty pagoda]

I also thought endurance was just %damage reduction when under the threshold

and the yellow effect was just showing how much damage you just took

[sturdy summit]

yeah, I didn't realize endurance threshold stats were the same as added HP.

[unborn hamlet]

im not exactly sure what the gimmick is

[gritty pagoda]

%less damage taken is a very strong stat

[unborn hamlet]

but its effectively extra health

the yellow bar

if u ´´die´´ while u have yellow bar, u stay alive

[twilit jetty]

Another weird interaction when that happens to me is that my hp stays at 0 until i use a pot

[unborn hamlet]

at the start of the clip it was full

near the end it was below 40%

after he dropped to 0hp 0ward

[crude night]

can i share image here ?

[unborn hamlet]

the yellow bar started going down

[gritty pagoda]

put it on imgur and link it

[unborn hamlet]

yes because u are effectively dead

so no health regen

[sturdy summit]

so wait, I need confirmation. We don't actually die until we reach negative hp equal to our endurance threshold? not when we hit 0?

[unborn hamlet]

yes

[crude night]

https://imgur.com/a/a3FwAnf yo this is my final creation what u think guys? 😄

[unborn hamlet]

its that the low base numbers dont matter

especially not in high corruption

sometimes i get oneshot across 15k ward shield

[sturdy summit]

the tooltip for health says "When Health reaches 0, your character is dead" that's so confusing!

[unborn hamlet]

🤷‍♂️

it can be abug

but its how it works

currently

[sturdy summit]

"you're dead so you don't get hp regen" is not what people tend to think when they think dead. They don't think it's just a status effect you can ignore until it gets "worse"

[safe grail]

MG item. meh.

[twilit jetty]

https://youtu.be/88a0qWUuwgU

[unborn hamlet]

the endurance keeps going down until it hits 0 and u die

[twilit jetty]

This one is longer

[unborn hamlet]

if u dont get health before it hits 0

[sturdy summit]

wow, endurance threshold is so much better than I thought

[unborn hamlet]

u will die no matter what u do

[twilit jetty]

and shows the endurance yellow thing is completely gone and me still alive

[unborn hamlet]

lets see

[sturdy summit]

what timestamp?

[abstract abyss]

Yeah which is why im trying to get a fire rune on my build but realized runic invocation cant be a rune itself for immutable

[twilit jetty]

0:14 15

[sturdy summit]

if you do frostguard, you get a fire rune in your build.

[unborn hamlet]

you had ward

1 ward to be exact

[sturdy summit]

you lived by the skin of your teeth.

[unborn hamlet]

u actually managed to survive with 1hp

[sturdy summit]

1 blue health

[unborn hamlet]

when u get so lucky u think its a bug

😂

[gritty pagoda]

the last hitpoint is the only hitpoint you need (:

[twilit jetty]

Im lowballing the monoliths

[unborn hamlet]

also when u used all your pots

[neon lynx]

Why we worried about what happens when we hit 0hp instead of being worried about why we’re hitting 0 hp

[unborn hamlet]

u effectively reset ur endurance too

[neon lynx]

[unborn hamlet]

so it was full yellowbar again

[twilit jetty]

So im secretly a pro LE player

I see

[sturdy summit]

this just goes to show how broken ward is

[unborn hamlet]

also true

just dont hit 0

so ez

[gritty pagoda]

4 dodge you get from finishing the campaign coming in clutch

[twilit jetty]

Uhm

I actually did it 0 hp 0 ward and 0 yellow bar

[unborn hamlet]

that +1 point in vitality

:woggies:

[gritty pagoda]

simply built different

[twilit jetty]

if you go frame by frame from 17 to 18 there is a point it shows

[abstract abyss]

Yeah I can't fit a fire rune on the bar. I was going to try and convert runic invocation but it seems to be dead weight and I would need static and mana strike on the bar too, so something has to be lightning because it takes up 3 of the 5 slots

[next lance]

ended up getting just enough hp back to skip the death check trigger

[gritty pagoda]

maybe you weren't dead for long enough for the game to register that you were dead

[twilit jetty]

What campaign i just went to monoliths after i got to oracle abode

[unborn hamlet]

ok i see that

thats a uh

[twilit jetty]

Luck of the draw

[unborn hamlet]

saved by frame calculation at this point

[sturdy summit]

or literally saved by a rounding error

[unborn hamlet]

u got that 1 ward before frame ended so game didnt kill u

[twilit jetty]

The sun photons hit just right the CPU to not process

[gritty pagoda]

ah the ol solar radition hits a n64 for a super mario speed run

[unborn hamlet]

anyway, its 1am, i am in no shape to be debunking this , anyway, endurance secret OP, just get more dmg bro

[sturdy summit]

I use butterflies

[gritty pagoda]

damage 👍

[sturdy summit]

good night comfy!

[unborn hamlet]

tmr i hit that 3LP frozen Ire

i feel it in my bones

[twilit jetty]

I dont really want to do a forum account lol

Can i just link the video on the in game bug report

[abstract abyss]

Wave of Frost or Freezing Cascade, which is better for bosses?

[sturdy summit]

link it in the discord bug report forum

[open prism]

dumb vague question. what sounds more impactful. +77 melee lightning damage with 14% pen or 34 melee lightning with 75% crit mod

[safe grail]

77 w/ pen

[twilit jetty]

Its not letting me post anything on the gameplay one

weird

[sturdy summit]

oh, maybe because you still have the New flag by your name?

[twilit jetty]

It says it has the maximum members or something alike

[sturdy summit]

wow... that sounds messed up

[twilit jetty]

So yeah i dont know where i can put the report in

Not gonna make a web forum account for it

[sturdy summit]

post it here, and I will post in gameplay bug reports linking to your message here.

[open prism]

figured, was just unsure about crit mod ty

[twilit jetty]

Character just doesn't die even at 0 hp and 0 ward (Spellblade)
There is a certain frame between 0:17 and 0:18 that there is not even a yellow "hp" bar
Uncertain if bug or just calculation error between frames
Playing in Offline mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88a0qWUuwgU

There you go

[sturdy summit]

oh, I see. I can't post there either. But it doesn't say so until I actually try.

it would be nice if there were a place to report that their discord server is bugged

[safe grail]

looks like a calc error between frames. you go from 0 to 1 ward PRETTY qucik to take a hit

[safe grail]

what is bugged?

[sturdy summit]

https://i.imgur.com/tFpAB6r.png

[safe grail]

it's not the server though.

[deft gust]

yo gamers i just got my dragoraths claw and my shard of enigma. what do i need to make a lightning claw runemaster?

[safe grail]

it happened to me. but there are peopl freely posting there

gotta be a rate limit of some sort

[sturdy summit]

whatever it is, it's a bug

[twilit jetty]

Its like a limited mini server

Is my guess

[safe grail]

yeah

[twilit jetty]

Well the discord has about 200k so its no surprise

[safe grail]

uhhhh. you can probably start playing some version

[deft gust]

is anyone playing the lightning claw build rn? can they send their build or at least some tips and tricks

[safe grail]

imma keep it a buck @deft gust, playing drag's claw builds w/o a good amount of cast speed feels turbo bad lol

[deft gust]

hmm

how do i get cast speed?

cuz it looks cool

Im currently just using this random frost claw build that i found on a guide and it is fairly tanky at my lv 68 but i think it might focus too hard on frost nova and not really go into frostbite bc the damage feels pretty low all around

[sturdy summit]

the boss damage feels bad?

[deft gust]

all the dmg feels bad

tbh im prob biased

[wary pine]

do you know any build with vilatria set ??

[deft gust]

cuz im usually on a rogue who does way more dmg

bladedancer not falconer

[sturdy summit]

vilatria storm crown is good, but not the whole set.

[deft gust]

but still

[sturdy summit]

unless you're a crazy sorc, then you could do lightning meteor with the whole set. But I assume you're talking runemaster.

[safe grail]

@deft gust you will need cast speed gloves t6/t7, twisted heart, bare minimum to make a solid lightning claw build. beyond that, Cast speed slammed on drag's claw and enigma will boost the build considerably.

[sturdy summit]

oh right, the storm crown isn't nearly as good for sorc, isn't it. The thing that makes storm crown good only works if you're a runemaster and can take Brand of Deception, which scales with shock chance

yeah, the vilatria set sucks.

[still stump]

I think the only time I die in this game is when I am looking at loot and get spired or off screened lol

[sturdy summit]

use the staff if you're sorc, or the crown if you're runemaster, but the two together isn't nearly as good.

[wary pine]

@sturdy summit i wanna do build for lightning meteor

[sturdy summit]

Actually, I've changed my mind again. If you're sorc and can use the staff, you don't care about the shock chance per int on the crown, because can access the set bonus, which is good without brand of deception.

it might not be best in slot, but it'll probably get you really far

[errant plank]

Is there anything like shared stash with rerolls? Wondering what i should do with stuff (uniques, idols, set items, named items) not suitable for my current character 🙄

[gritty pagoda]

I'm doing int stacking low life sorc with the full set

really the only thing to make sure you grab is the stardust node in meteor's tree

[sturdy summit]

with rerolls? Your stash is shared with all your alts in the same mode

excluding solo self-found

[errant plank]

ok so shall i keep equipements for necro etc?

[errant plank]

what do you mean? i play solo with my first character atm...

[sturdy summit]

When you made the character, did you select the Solo Character-Found option?

that option prevents you from sharing your stash with alts.

[errant plank]

is it any good for a runemaster: https://imgur.com/a/54i7UQw?

[gritty pagoda]

mostly depends on what the weaver adds to it

[sturdy summit]

they are good for all classes, if you roll well on weaver's will.

[misty talon]

Are there any must-have spellblade uniques?

[errant plank]

WOW, i dont remember exactly but i think i did 😒

[gritty pagoda]

your character screen should say if you did or not

I think?

[sturdy summit]

you can check by going to settings, and go to the Challenges tab.

it will say if Character Found or Account Found is enabled

[gritty pagoda]

bloody nib gives a ton of pen with shatter strike if you build around it

Diothaen's Bloody Nib*

[errant plank]

it is mentionned solo modes deactivated so i can share i think 🙂

[sturdy summit]

yes, you're safe

[errant plank]

If i roll well?

[sturdy summit]

so if you're on cycle, other characters on cycle will share your stash

[misty talon]

I decided on flame reave but not against goin shatter 🙂

[sturdy summit]

alt-mousover on the item and read what Weaver's Will does.

[gritty pagoda]

equip weaver item -> kill stuff -> game adds random stuff as you get xp

[safe grail]

god i feel bad for all of the folks tryna make flame reave work lol

[errant plank]

yes i saw that

[gritty pagoda]

Sunwreath and Jasper's Searing Pride do stuff with flame reave

[errant plank]

so i should equip and kill stuff to see ?

[gritty pagoda]

yeah

it could add useless affixes or juice affixes

[sturdy summit]

weavers items could become incredibly good exalted items, or they could be trash. All depends on what you get.

[errant plank]

alright will try this out

[sturdy summit]

I have one on my paladin that got 2 t7 affixes, and I could use it starting from level 15.

they're really good for levelling alts as a result

[errant plank]

and for idols/uniques i know i wont use onn current character or alts, what shouldi do? sell ?

[gritty pagoda]

I store all idols in my box

having tons of options help when getting new gear to keep stuff capped

[sturdy summit]

Keep them for alts, or don't even pick them up. The gold for selling them is not worth the time spent organizing your inventory. Use a loot filter.

[gritty pagoda]

some idols do sell well if your in MG

[sturdy summit]

oh yeah, if you're in MG, everything is different

[rugged slate]

is Runemaster too hard for a beginner ? :S

[sturdy summit]

I see /s. Do you actually want an answer?

[rugged slate]

typo

sorry

[sturdy summit]

oh, oops

well, no, it's not

[gritty pagoda]

like selling stout idols that have % health and flat health make bank (:

or flat hp and crit chance

[sturdy summit]

runemaster has lots of great builds that don't require rotations or managing runes

[gritty pagoda]

does the funny turret invoke build still work

[rugged slate]

i have a hard time out of Maxroll to find a build

[gritty pagoda]

using that relic that I can't remeber its name

[rugged slate]

LastEpoch tools one are very complex

[sturdy summit]

hydrahedron was nerfed hard. It's still fine, but not the best. StaticSpark Charge is the new hotness.

[gritty pagoda]

👍

[safe grail]

spark charge.

[sturdy summit]

oops, thank you

[safe grail]

static is a diff ability lol

[sturdy summit]

I always get those two mixed up

I should play spark charge just so I stop confusing it with static

[errant plank]

i do use one, still to be fine tuned 😉

[errant plank]

what is MG?

[compact cloak]

Merchant's Guild.

[errant plank]

Oh, ill get to it later on i guess

Btw, is there any trading stuff in LE other than MG?

[sturdy summit]

If it's your first character, you unlock item factions around level 50-55. On your second character, you unlock them at the first town, keeper camp.

[sturdy summit]

You can trade items with people you group with, if they dropped in the same instance. Grouping with people also gets you Resonances to drop, which allows trading any items that qualify.

[misty talon]

@gritty pagoda thanks man!

[sacred ruin]

I'm surprised people aren't actually spamming nova

[errant plank]

and you trade against what? in game currency? shard? gliphs? Like POE ?

[sturdy summit]

in groups, you don't trade, you gift items.

[limpid drum]

is it possible to somehow play at lvl 44 without having -5mil mana afte rusing 3 skills?

or does it come later with the stable mana

i legit use 4-5 frostclaws and im done

[compact cloak]

Use a mana generator when leveling.

[sturdy summit]

You can gift items if they dropped while both of you were in the same instance, or if you have an appropriate resonance. And you get resonances by playing together.

[limpid drum]

whats that lol

[compact cloak]

A skill that generates... mana?

[sturdy summit]

or at least a skill that doesn't use mana, like lightning blast

[errant plank]

al'right, ty for the tips, time to go to bed 😉

[limpid drum]

ill try to somehow find that

is that a unique?

[prime tiger]

Any Runemaster loot filters for someone who wants to use all 3 elements?

[limpid drum]

yea honestly idk

feels tiring and boring

[sand pawn]

How do the tags for invovations work? Like with Swirling frost that creates a DoT around the caster.... is that scaled only on DoT or because invocation is a spell technically it is also scaled off the spell tag?

[sturdy summit]

spell damage is your friend. Elemental damage is a trap, unless it's elemental damage over time.

[sturdy summit]

when you have the runes for an invocation active, you will see a buff by your health. Mouse over it to see the tags on the invocation.

[prime tiger]

Oh I meant downloadable

[sand pawn]

Oh okay tyvm, guess I can't do that on LETools haha

[prime tiger]

actually amazing advice btrw

[sturdy summit]

I can give you tips on what you put in your filter, but I can't condone downloading a filter.

[errant plank]

Link to item? Cant find it

[sturdy summit]

cause a filter should evolve according to your needs, and the best way to learn how is to make it yourself from scratch.

🤣

[compact cloak]

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/1-0-heavyz-casual-loot-filters-for-all-classes-v4/25176
Shows most stuff you'd need and has a decent explanation as to what is what.

[glossy quarry]

would runebolt work with fragment or enigma alone?

I am trying to cook a giga explosion projectile build

[sand pawn]

"When you directly cast Frost Wall it is cast directly in front of you and you leap backwards a short distance and invoke Revik's Blizzard at the wall." ---- how does this ionteracxt with the Passive skill tree node "Neverlate" Spell dmg and crit after using a traversal spell.... In my head I use something like teleport.... and then I have a spell damage on the stack... I use frost wall.... that conusmes it and then the blizzard is invoked w/o the fance buff... Frost wall gains the movement tag but not the traversal tag.... Do I have that corrrect for that sequence?

[prime tiger]

I'm down but could I atleast ask why

[sacred ruin]

the preference is to use a skill that innately has spark charge on it

like lightning blast or nova

[sturdy summit]

I think a loot filter should change based on your needs, and starting with a really complex one made by someone else encourages people to not learn how to make their own. Also, because I only make my own loot filters, I don't have any downloadable ones to share :p

starting with a really complex one that someone else made can present a really big barrier of entry to learning to modify it.

[glossy quarry]

ah thats

gg

[sacred ruin]

the filter is super easy to figure out

[glossy quarry]

specced into runebolt, regretted it, back to frost claw ele nova

[sacred ruin]

but if someone's already done the leg work who cares

frost claw ele nova probably is runemaster's best build overall

barring something mega bugged

[open prism]

which one sounds more effective in this case. 108 melee dmg + 48% pen or 68 Melee damage + 150% crit mod

[gritty pagoda]

in general flat damage > everything else, imo

cause everything else is based on flat damage

[prime tiger]

tHIS IS TRUE

I'm falling asleep, could you dm me some tips and I'll check later @sturdy summit

[open prism]

not necessarily. More damage, crit mod, and pen can go pretty far.

[sturdy summit]

what level are you?

[gritty pagoda]

it all can, thats why i said in general

[open prism]

in general flat on gear in comparison to those stats are usually the lower priority.

[gritty pagoda]

a bigger base makes increased damage, more damage, crits and pen all bigger

[open prism]

cuz flat can be gained from other sources

outside of gear

[gritty pagoda]

same with everything else

[open prism]

not on the same efficacy level lol

[gritty pagoda]

fair

[open prism]

some sources are worse/better than others

[sand pawn]

"Cold Spell Damage over Time Area Intelligence" This is the blizzard invocation... it isn't a hit and has a crit of 0% BUT if I get +spell crit like 1-2% could I made it crit?

[prime tiger]

only 20 rn

[gritty pagoda]

that does DoT damage so it can't crit

[sturdy summit]

damage over time can not crit

[open prism]

0% times 100% = 0%

[gritty pagoda]

but what if it was 150%

actually if you had +1 flat spell crit from something would it technically have a crit chance but not be able to benefit from it

[sturdy summit]

Hide Normal, Rare, and Epic items. Show All Experimental and Personal Items. Show items that have 2 affixes with total tier 3 from a list. The list depends on your build.

[sturdy summit]

as you get higher level, raise the total tiers to 4 and then 5. When you finish compaign, then it's time to remake your loot filter to handle exalted items, and I have further advice at that point.

[gritty pagoda]

I'd include items that drop with rare affixes for your build even if they only have a T1 of it

just for removal/shatter to get shards

[sturdy summit]

oh thanks, forgot that one. I have a rule that starts by showing all Class-specific affixes for my class, even with 1 tier.

and as I get enough shards of each affix, I remove it from the list.

[gritty pagoda]

yeah

[prisma patio]

I just use casuals filter and it has that. Then I added in later to hide EVERYTHING that doesn't have affixes I want.

[sturdy summit]

I want shards even that my build doesn't need, for glyph of chaos

[gritty pagoda]

true

[sturdy summit]

but only about 20 of each

[prisma patio]

I have a line on my filter to show high total tier items just for shattering

[sturdy summit]

I find that trying to limit your shatters to only high tier affixes doesn't work really well. The shards I really want to shatter are rare, and I want to shatter them even with T1. And if it's not those, I don't really care at all, I'll get enough of them anyway.

[gritty pagoda]

damage dealt to mana before health 👍

love that shard

or the spell crit one thats doubled if you have >300 max ana

[versed wing]

can I tag along with anyone doing a 290+ corruption Emperor of Corpses?

[hollow rover]

if theyre shards you really want ideally you shouldnt be shattering them you should try a rune of removal instead that nets you more shards providing you dont run out of forging pot before you get the stat you want

[heavy sun]

Is there any reason to run frost claw with SS bloody nib now?

[sturdy summit]

yeah, I kind of use shatter interchangeably to mean either runes of shattering or removal, depending on the situation.

[safe grail]

that interaction has been fixed

[heavy sun]

Thought so. 👍

[hollow rover]

ahh gotcha i joined in late so thought id give an alternative in case you was not aware 🙂

[sturdy summit]

you make a good point, not everyone listening might be aware I meant it that way.

[hollow rover]

this is true i certainly didnt to begin with lol

[sand pawn]

Is there a way to make lightning ageis cold?

[safe grail]

no

[hollow rover]

i just switched from frostclaw lvling to hydrahedron and im wondering if there is a way to make sure i get the right runes regardless of what i cast ?

[sand pawn]

Yes there is, its a node in teh invocation

[hollow rover]

okay cool perhaps i dont have that yet still leveling the skill you dont happen to know its name ?

[safe grail]

immutable order

it gives you the runes based on the order of skills by element on your action bar

[hollow rover]

so i would order them lightning fire fire and always get hydra regardles of what order i cast

from right to left or left to right lol

[sturdy summit]

I don't think immutable order is what you want if you are going hydra. It gives invoke a cooldown, and I think with hydra you don't want a cooldown, right?

[hollow rover]

preferably not xD

[sturdy summit]

immutable order isn't the node that gives the cooldown, but you can't get it without the node that does.

[safe grail]

all immutable does is make it so you can order your abilities lightning fire fire from left to right then hit any of the skills 3 times and always get those three runes

but as mentioned, you will now have a CD on invo

[hollow rover]

ahh ill check the build guide i guess then i just find i keep casting out of order nd end up with a fire explosion cus i helf flame rush too long or a lightning orb cus i didnt hold long enough

[safe grail]

which is counter-intuitive.

yeah you just have to get used to it

[sturdy summit]

you're probably better off using runebolt and changing the element order using the specialization tree.

[safe grail]

^

[hollow rover]

yah runebolt is lightning

everything else is fire

damn 12sec cooldown is way too much even with cdr aint gettingthat down a reasonable amount

[sturdy summit]

immutable order is good for frostguard, but not for any invocation you want to spam.

[hollow rover]

yeah mine requires me to keep moving from pack to pack making a new hydra each pack

is there anyway to make hydra last longer i feel like its kinda short lived

[sturdy summit]

if there is, it would be a node in the runic invocation tree that extends the duration of invocations, but I can't recall there being such a thing off the top of my head.

[prisma patio]

Yeah I don't think so

[sturdy summit]

nope, nothing matches "duration" when I search

[prisma patio]

There's only one hydra unique and it doesn't do that either

[hollow rover]

yeah i searched the same lol

yh i need to get that still

[sturdy summit]

frostguard is an amazing defensive ability in its own right, but I have to admit that being able to use immutable order with it is not an insignificant factor in my choice to use it.

[hollow rover]

yh if it wsnt for the CD i would use it just because i know ill mess it up myself lol till i get used to it at least

[sturdy summit]

frostguard has a duration of 13 seconds, and with cooldown reduction, that's well above 100% uptime.

even without cooldown reduction it's 100% uptime

[hollow rover]

thaats nice tbf i didnt actually look at any of the other invocations lol

[sturdy summit]

frostguard does a lot of stuff, but the important thing to know about it is simple: 30% less damage

[hollow rover]

always good haha

ugh typical need to farm blood frost and death for the chest piece but i went the other way >.>

[muted kindle]

ngl i really wanted to keep disentigrate but it's such a death trap at later levels, lightning claw is just better in a runemaster build

[sturdy summit]

yeah, I'm not thrilled with channeling as a concept. Being able to move is just way too important.

channeling would have to be OP to make it worth standing still to do it.

[twilit jetty]

Or make a late node for channel while moving

[sturdy summit]

yeah, instant channel would make it worth

hmm, instant channel is probably not the right way to say that

[twilit jetty]

Make it like a toggle

[gritty pagoda]

give it a node that summons a wacky cube thing that shoots it for you

[sturdy summit]

at that point, it's not a channel anymore, it's more like an aura :p

[twilit jetty]

Well yeah

[gritty pagoda]

you channeling makes wacky cube thing do more damage, but you can run around and it will still shoot it

[twilit jetty]

But it was going more in terms that you cant call other things while doing it

Only basic movement

[sturdy summit]

oh yeah, that makes sense

[sand pawn]

Can someone please take a look at this and tell me if I picked stuff wrong? This is my first mage and I an using the unique to invoke that blizzard thingy. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oy4pzvnB

[silk pewter]

Runemaster, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.1

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (63)

General:

▸ Health: 978, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 115, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 68%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 1 Dex / 17 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 24% / 0% / 24% / 0% / 0% / 1% / 1%
▸ EHP: 681 / 588 / 681 / 588 / 588 / 591 / 591

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 196

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Ward (20)
• Runic Invocation (20)
• Frost Wall (20)
• Flame Rush (20)
• Lightning Blast (20)

Used unique items:

None

[gritty pagoda]

so like warpath style of channel?

[twilit jetty]

yeah

[gritty pagoda]

where is your health/ward

[sturdy summit]

I'm guessing this build doesn't include gear, only the skill spec?

[sand pawn]

Yea no gear just skills and specs

Gear I find can be fleshed out

But the concept of something is what's important

the only pieces I will be using is that new uniuqe

[gritty pagoda]

I'd def put more points into sphere of protection, %less damage taken is really good

assuming blizzard does chill stuff

[sand pawn]

I have 5 points floating so ill dump them there, yea

[gritty pagoda]

and since this is doing DOT damage you may want Brand of Deception for the 2% ele pen with dots per point

[sturdy summit]

blizzard chills every second, and has a freeze rate of 100 per second

[gritty pagoda]

ah

[sturdy summit]

need lightning damage for brand of deception

[gritty pagoda]

not the 5 point bonus

[sand pawn]

I am getting pen other places like the base tree

[gritty pagoda]

the ele pen with dots from just putting points into it

[sturdy summit]

ahh, just the ele pen

[sand pawn]

for invocation

what would you swap aroiund to get those 6 points?

[gritty pagoda]

cause getting 12% from that could save a lot of points that went into the sorc tree

so you could grab more defensive stuff in runemaster

[sand pawn]

Yea? I went for the cold leach from that tree tbh not really the pen

Its actually less pen than the sorc tree node so I still don't think its worth

[gritty pagoda]

for the leech you could just put on a tyrant crown (lvl 75 helmet base), it implictly has 1-3% ele leech

[sand pawn]

Its still less pen compared to that pen node

[gritty pagoda]

12% pen vs 15% but you dont need to put 25 passive points into sorc

[sand pawn]

ah got you, your point is the ROI for the investmant of those 5 points that frees up survivability?

[gritty pagoda]

yeah you could not put points into sorc and get some more defensive not die points in runemaster

cause it would be 19 points to put elsewhere

[sturdy summit]

I really like Arcane Momentum and Essence of Celerity

[sand pawn]

What about sorc node afterglow

[gritty pagoda]

true

[sand pawn]

I have bot oif those

[gritty pagoda]

is blizzard 40+ mana

[sturdy summit]

yeah, I'm saying I think those are good pickups. Some points in sorc is worth it.

[sand pawn]

um the invocation? IDK i have to get that far toi unlock. Im lvl 15 atm

Isd it worth taking points out of cryomancer and putting them into afterglow then?

[sturdy summit]

blizzard base cost is 45

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/runic_invocation/invocations

[gritty pagoda]

no if you want the earlier stuff in sorc, cyro + chill to the bones are good

[sand pawn]

I think I scaled it right too since its a spell all that +spell dmg should work

this is my 4th character I am making... here is hoping I don't mess this one up too ha

[gritty pagoda]

getting armor shred chance is extra nice on gear cause you convert it to frostbite chance so more dot dmg

[sand pawn]

Yea that wqas the plan too! and flamerush will shread too I thjink from how I have it specked

[sturdy summit]

and armor shred chance is a suffix, which can be hard to turn into damage sometimes

[gritty pagoda]

flame rush is giving fire shred chance, that gets converted into cold shred chance

[sand pawn]

Oh so that doesnt apply / double dip?

got yah

I thought about working glyph of dominion into this instead of flame ward but I was worried about survivablity

[sturdy summit]

double dip with what? cold resist shred and frostbite?

[sand pawn]

Well the shred chance meaning frostbite

I thought it would like do both

[sturdy summit]

oh, cold resist shred doesn't count as armor shred

[gritty pagoda]

Freezing point converts armour shred to frostbite, cold shred isn't armour shred

[sturdy summit]

but cold shred might still be good to have, right?

[sand pawn]

I thiink so

[gritty pagoda]

yeah

cold shred makes them take more cold damage

[sturdy summit]

yeah, I'm scaling my frostbite damage with cold pen from freeze rate

[sand pawn]

from what I can tell my rotation will bascially be, flamerush, frostwall, free invocation, and then invoke again

[muted kindle]

what's yalls thoughts on glacier vs frostwall?

[sturdy summit]

frost wall has great buffs

[gritty pagoda]

glacier is great for leveling

not sure how it really scales into monos

[muted kindle]

i've bene using it in reg mono and i still enjoy it, the spammability and leftover ice vortex's can be used tactfully

not sure how it will do in empowered tho

[sturdy summit]

if it's working for you, might as well see how far you can take it, and if you manage to make a new build, share it with us

[muted kindle]

thats kinda been my philosophy with this build, just winging it for the most part and seeing how far i can take it

[gritty pagoda]

the mana on kill and on crit is really nice

[grave lynx]

What build is better, the plasma orb build or mad lightning build?

[royal dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS9wEn0jEUc yall seen this? wild

[sand pawn]

jesus christ

[muted kindle]

welp.

spellblade is no longer considered "bad"

[sand pawn]

I have a spell blade and... im struggling but I think thats just a gear issue. Its been a pretty easy cruise so faer

[strong spoke]

is there a faster way to stack spells for runic invocation beyond casting 3 spells or having high cast speed?

[sturdy summit]

uhhh, channeling? 🤣

[gritty pagoda]

not really?

[sturdy summit]

Channeling might be bad, but runic invocation has a node that makes it stack runes faster.

[gritty pagoda]

I guess getting immutable order + fast spell to cast?

[sturdy summit]

Scrivener's Haste

probably not good at all, but it meets all the stipulations: faster, not casting 3 spells, not high cast speed

[shell fern]

dps in the julra kill seems extremely weak

leaves alot of room for improvement

[sand pawn]

Pair that with those boots that gigve max endurance or something when you stand still

[pine gate]

Does someone know if elemental nova, when trielemental, will scale 3X on elemental damage

[sturdy summit]

it will not

[pine gate]

oh really

wow that sucks

[sturdy summit]

it will scale 1/3 with cold damage, instead

the damage types matter, not the tags, for increased damage

[gritty pagoda]

ele nova moment

[pine gate]

no but if i have the helmet, which puts it tri-elemental, it is still 1/3 per element?

[sturdy summit]

yes

the damage types matter

not the tags on the spell

[pine gate]

hmmm i kinda dont understand, im sorry

[strong spoke]

I just want to cast greater fireball as much as possible with as little delay between casts as possible

[pine gate]

what do you mean

[strong spoke]

each element will be increased by the stat

[gritty pagoda]

when its tri ele you still see different colored pulses right?

[strong spoke]

not 3x, but 1x

[gritty pagoda]

or is tri ele all 3 at once

[sturdy summit]

if you have a trielemental frost nova, its tag is cold, but its damage is 6 cold, 6 fire, 6 lightning. Each of those scales with increases to its type.

Increased Cold Damage won't increase the lightning component

[strong spoke]

so if you have a 50% increase and cast ele nova, with each havig 6 damage

each will now deal 9 damage

[sturdy summit]

Increased Elemental Damage will increase all 3, but less than the same tier of Increased Spell Damage

[pine gate]

exact, so having the helmet which makes it tri elemental will increase my elemental nova damage

[sturdy summit]

why?

[strong spoke]

this but each element scales once

[strong spoke]

balance

[gritty pagoda]

ah

[pine gate]

because it goes from going from lighning cast, to fire cast, etc, to casting all 3 at the same cast

[strong spoke]

tell you what

go to the arena dummies

and test it

[pine gate]

fr

good point

[sturdy summit]

if you have multiple nova types, it will still alternate between them, but all of them will do all three types of damage at once. But you don't get 150% increased damage from 50% increased elemental damage.

you get 1/3rd of 50% elemental damage, three times.

not 50% elemental damage three times

so don't use Increased Elemental Damage. Increased Spell Damage is better.

[pine gate]

ahhhh

i see, thanks for that

[languid shoal]

anyone ehre that can help with final boss of temporal sanctum?

[sturdy summit]

what problem are you having?

[languid shoal]

i die to the mechanics 😦

[sturdy summit]

when she uses her big aoe that oneshots everything in the room, you need to press D to change eras to dodge it.

[languid shoal]

no i know that but its hard to see her small attacks during the beam phase

[sturdy summit]

can you dodge those by shifting eras as well?

and just wait for her to come to you

[languid shoal]

idk

[mighty sluice]

Hi can anyone recommend specific equipments to improve survivability?

im lvl 69 and i die to shade in 1 hit : (

[sturdy summit]

frostbite shackles for ward retention

[sturdy summit]

shade has specific attacks intended to one shot you. Is the one hit you're dying to one of those?

[mighty sluice]

im dying to mainly the blackhole

[mighty sluice]

is that the one?

but then again admittedly my ward and hp is quite low resting at 344 / 823 respectivel

y

[sturdy summit]

is that cold damage?

[mighty sluice]

ermm

wait lemme check

[sturdy summit]

oh, the void black holes

when he casts 3 at once?

[mighty sluice]

i'll just go die once more xd

[sturdy summit]

should probably dodge those

[mighty sluice]

yep that one alongside the tendrils

[mighty sluice]

ah rip

im not using any traversal skills, should i put one in then?

[sturdy summit]

yes, absolutely.

traversal is super important for doing mechanics

maybe if you're rocking 150% increased move speed you could make an argument for not having traversal, but I'd just say, 150% movespeed AND traversal

[mighty sluice]

well um then im at a crossroad, idk which one to replace : /

im using lightning blast/ fireball,/ runic invocation/ frostwall and flame ward

[sturdy summit]

if you have something that you're automatically casting, like elemental nova from frost claw, you can remove it from your bar and use unspecced teleport or flame rush.

[tough mist]

is 4LP mad alchemist lable BIS for runemaster builds?

[sturdy summit]

for many of them, yes

[mighty sluice]

Bis?

[sturdy summit]

best in slot

[mighty sluice]

oh ok thanks

[mighty sluice]

hmmm

dont seem to be autocasting anything

i guess i have to forgo 1 element then?

[sturdy summit]

flame rush is fire element

[mighty sluice]

admittedly im not following any end game builds cuz none of em use fireball and lightning blast

ohhh

OHH

alright tysm

ill try this new comp

[sturdy summit]

good luck!

[mighty sluice]

ty!

[quiet mortar]

guys is there a way to compare stats to my 2nd ring ?

[tacit hornet]

does plasma orb really suck for boss killing

[onyx glen]

its been pretty solid for bosses for me so far, especially if you're close and have multiple orbitting

[mighty sluice]

omg

[mighty sluice]

it worked cheers

i killed him by spamming lightning blast x runic invoc

[sturdy summit]

and you were able to avoid the deadly blasts with the added mobility?

[mighty sluice]

yea

although it messed up my runic invoc, not used to it for plasma

[sturdy summit]

that's an advantage of teleport, I guess. I really like it, but it fits into my build because I spec elemental nova but never cast it directly.

[mighty sluice]

i see

i'll look at a specced tp then

also can i farm for the spoon by repeatedly entering the same echo?

[sturdy summit]

since teleport has no element, it won't add a rune

[mighty sluice]

yeye

my issue is that fireball cd was nonexistent so i could cast plasma orb quite fast

flame rush cd is abit longer

[sturdy summit]

I guess you can. It drops from exiled mages, so as long as you have mage prisons to open, you're good.

[mighty sluice]

alright then

[tacit hornet]

im at 200 corruption struggling against lagon lol.

[feral bramble]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/6v2se03m#2

Mocked a min max build for flame reave for one that wants it

[sage siren]

Anyone play spellblade with surge? The tooltip is saying it's 8500 (estimated) but barely does 500-800.

[sage siren]

I'm surprised you're not using frostclaw tbh

[sturdy summit]

what's the cooldown on surge?

[sage siren]

4 seconds

[sturdy summit]

is the cooldown messing up the dps calculation?

[kind fjord]

i'm using surge on my spellblade but it's only to trigger lightning blast

[sturdy summit]

hmmm, if it were messing it up, it should be a lot higher

[sage siren]

Shouldn't be, unless they're factoring it in. It's not stating DPS, just raw damage. And even if it were a DPS calc, it'd surely be higher.

[sturdy summit]

they don't say estimated damage, they say estimated dps.

[sage siren]

Nope. Mind if I DM you?

can't post images here

[sturdy summit]

go ahead

[kind fjord]

doesn't estimated dps assume no enemy resists?

[sturdy summit]

yeah

also wouldn't include armor

[sage siren]

It does, but I'd be seeing similar drops on other skills - which I'm not.

[sturdy summit]

are your other skills also fire damage?

[sage siren]

yep

[versed wing]

if anyone else is farming a heart Id love an emperor kill over 290 corruption

[sage siren]

Reave, Flamebrand, Frostclaw, Flameward

all Fire

[glossy quarry]

does Overcharge apply to tri-ele nova from crest of unity?

[lapis wedge]

does "freeze rate per stack of chill" interract with "cold penetration per freeze rate" ?

[sturdy summit]

I am not entirely sure on that yet, but I have reason to believe it does not.

some similarly worded abilities that operate on different stats wouldn't count conditional modifiers to that stat

[lapis wedge]

I did tried flame surge for a bit. Why do you care about estimated dps ?

[eager silo]

frostbite frost claw or normal frost claw.. mmm

[sage siren]

that's just it, isn't stating estimated dps, it's straight up estimated damage per hit

[lapis wedge]

Might be the case for cooldown ability

[sage siren]

yeah but even if that's true it'd estimate it across it's cooldown right? So the upfront damage stated is divided by cooldown, so it ought to 4x as strong as the stated hit.

so it's even weaker than my initial argument for it XD

[lapis wedge]

idk i don't rly trust this number in any game

[sage siren]

same tbh

it hits like paper, but is good for getting flame aura

[lapis wedge]

i just use it for a raw estimation upon item change

i was hitting hard with it though

like 80k

[kind fjord]

I just found a weird bug where, if you hover your mouse over Surge while you have stacks of Dormant Energy, it consumes those stacks and you are granted their benefits.

[sage siren]

I'm not in end game yet, I'm just noticing it's weaker than my other attacks, which shouldn't be the case

[lapis wedge]

lmfao i recall having trouble figuring what's happening with this

[kind fjord]

hahaha that's great i'm glad i'm not the only one. I noticed it just now because I just setup my 2nd monitor so it's easier to accidentally mouse over it when i'm tabbed

such an odd bug

I reported it btw

[lapis wedge]

Good. ^^

[kind fjord]

Also, if I had to guess, there may be some shenanigans going on in the Surge skill in general. Mainly because of this bug and how the specialization, Ride the Lightning, says it grants Spell Damage to Surge... even though it's not a spell...

[sturdy summit]

omg, devs, please implement the cost reduction to stash tabs soon. I'm dying inside trying not to buy new tabs before the cost reduction.

I need more tabs! I need them

[kind fjord]

And also now this potential not scaling with fire damage bug JPax is having?

Is crit necessary on all on-hit builds?

I feel like the answer is gonna be a resounding yes but I still gotta ask lol

[sacred ruin]

Crit is one of the best ways to scale in general yes.

[sturdy summit]

well, if you're actually dealing damage with on-hit dots, you don't use crit.

[kind fjord]

Nope just on-hit. So would it be better to go for crit chance and crit multi rather than % elemental / lightning?

[sacred ruin]

depends on your build and how you're scaling and where you're getting flat from

nova spark charge gets alot of it's flat from just scaling int up so you can go crit/lightning depending on affixes on gear

[sturdy summit]

don't use Increased Elemental Damage unless you absolutely have to. It has lower numbers than picking a specific resist, or using increased spell damage

[kind fjord]

yeah don't worry i know that one i prioritize lightning

I'm running a ton of on-hit with melee mana strike

Primarily using lightning blast specced and plan to use the battlemage 2h

[sturdy summit]

I think you'd need to figure out exactly how much increased crit you need with your added crit to hit 100%, and once you have that, invest in something else.

[kind fjord]

Includes other passive sources like frost claw, spark charges, and spark nova

I'm just looking to push this one to its limit then probably try another class, not really looking to respec

[sacred ruin]

runemaster can legit get to like 2200 without abusing bugs

maybe a little more then that if you're in hellah baller gear

like 3-4 lp everything

[kind fjord]

I'll look into more crit as I think it'll be the better way to scale my build

[strange karma]

for spellbalde builds, does physical melee dmg count for anything or only the elemental?

[sage siren]

afaik if it says it in the tooltip that added damage is added, it's added. Word salad there.

So like flame reave specifically says "Other added damage is added at 160% effectiveness". If taking it as writ, that means 10 added physical is added as 16 fire.

[sturdy summit]

when it comes to damage, the scaling tags on the tooltip can be a good hint, but what actually matters is the real damage the spell deals

and I'm pretty sure spellblade is still going to be doing the typical mage trifecta of elemental damage

not physical

[strange karma]

well, says "MELEE" so i would spect that "X+ melee dmg" is the one that counts

[sturdy summit]

but maybe you have some +physical melee damage on your gear, or maybe there's a spellblade node I don't know that adds something other than elemental

[sturdy summit]

if it's +melee damage, it will count as whatever is the type of the spell, but if it's +melee physical damage, you now have a tiny nib of damage in your build that won't benefit from your increased fire damage, or whatever element.

[strange karma]

i would spect as well that " fire melee elemental dmg" is the one "added to 100% of its effectivness"

[kind fjord]

My first interpretation is that it needs to satisfy both tags

Because we have a distinction between Melee Damage and Physical Melee Damage

[sturdy summit]

damage effectiveness affects flat damage

[strange karma]

kinda yeah, where physical is not related at all here

[kind fjord]

I'm saying this mainly to get away from other games, like PoE, that assume multiple element component attacks.

[lapis wedge]

cold resistance on hit actualy just give +10resist ? for real wtf. what a trash node

[sturdy summit]

increased damage works that way, but added damage is added flat damage, so it's just going to add that damage to your skill, regardless of what types it had before.

[kind fjord]

And then Melee Damage converts to your ability type?

[sturdy summit]

yep

[kind fjord]

Alright I can see that. I'm glad it's intuitive like that then

[urban bridge]

Dang I've got legendary 3 harbinger of stars and now my sorc actually performs worse 😦

[sturdy summit]

yeah, so if you add physical damage to your build, and all your bonuses are to, say, fire damage, you're going to have a little bit of flat physical that's not benefitting as much from your bonuses.

[sage siren]

So by your reckoning, if we had a weapon with +10 physical +10 void on it, it'd do flame reaves 15 fire (modified by fire multipliers) And then +16 physical and +16 void?

[kind fjord]

I believe that's the case yup

[sturdy summit]

yep

[urban bridge]

Meteors spawning from crt just drains my mana totally. I changed my flame ward to not retaliate and it still summons meteors from the additional meteors itself. How viable is a non crt build would you guys think?

[sage siren]

Then of course the modifiers within the skills tree, like +50% damage

[sturdy summit]

it would all still be melee (or spell) damage, so the appropriate bonuses to that would apply equally regardless of resist type

[sage siren]

yes, so the ideal would be +fire damage so it benefits from it all, as flame reave isn't converting it to fire itself

[strange karma]

in my case, im using lighting and effectiveness is 100% on fire brand and mana strike.
I dropped a new dagger with 11 more " melee lighting dmg" on it than my previous one. but my previous one has a +100% lighting dmg modifier on it... and the tooltip says that my dmg increase

with the new one

[kind fjord]

so what do you guys think. crit chance vs lightning damage for a melee on-hit build?

i'm already going for int

[hot mason]

Here's a question. Battlemage's endeavour says it has a chance to cast lightning blast when I use a melee attack andd hit at least one enemy. Do recasts of shatter strike from the "Whiteout" node have a chance to cast?

[sturdy summit]

typically, if it doesn't say it requires a direct cast, any cast will do.

[hot mason]

yeah it just says when you use a melee attack, I figured it should work. The only thing I wasn't sure is if it would still consider it 1 melee attack or something

[neon lynx]

https://imgur.com/vTgCM3D o.o

[sturdy summit]

so intelligent

[sand pawn]

ive tried skipping the story quest and I can't gfor the life of me beat the lightless arbor. It feels like I have to be directly on to that platform to burn the thing... I guess I could just send it over there huh

[sturdy summit]

have you tried using the D key to move the torch?

[sand pawn]

As I was typoing that is what my brain figured out... lol You could say I am a stubborn learner

[sturdy summit]

sometimes it takes asking the question to realize the answer

[sand pawn]

Yea, I usually dont use the D key in that dungeon because it feels clunky for me when attacking things but that seems a good use of it ha

[vapid rapids]

I wanna get huge aoe and super high mana + cool down and just focus channel everything xD

[kind fjord]

does the Frozen Shrapnel node in Shatter Strike actually scale with Intelligence? The Intelligence tag is not noted on the tooltip

[strange karma]

if I use rune of ascendance on prophecy blade, what legendary comes out? random sword?

[strange karma]

i would say no then

[kind fjord]

the skill tooltip doesn't say it does but the text tooltip says it scales with it

The Scaling Tags on the Skill Popup say Cold and Spell while the text from the node says "They scale with Intelligence, spell damage, and cold damage"

[nimble shoal]

It should inherit all attribute scaling from shatterstrike

[kind fjord]

Yes I understand what it should do

[nimble shoal]

which would give %inc cold damage and freeze rate per int

[sand pawn]

Nope still died in Lightless arbor to the stupid thiongs that feel like they 1 shot you

[sturdy summit]

those gloom screechers are awful if you're melee

[nimble shoal]

Only way to know if it's bugged or not is testing, or maybe Cyborg knows

[sand pawn]

Its thie things in the boss fight the big dudes that jkust lump around... YOu just get pushed around so much and before you know it, your stun and face tanking even as ranged I feel

[kind fjord]

Also, does the Closed Circuit node work in the Lightning Blast tree?

I don't receive a buff saying I have increased damage and crit chance when it bounces back to me

or am I not considered an ally?

[sturdy summit]

if you hold alt and mouseover the skill to see the (slighly) detailed stats, you should see additional scaling information.

is that what you're doing already?

[kind fjord]

Yes. Look at the additional Text tooltip. Then, look at the Skill tooltip

[neat flame]

do you have enough chains to chain back to yourself? open stats screen

[kind fjord]

Here is how it looks:
Window 1:
Scaling Tags
COLD, SPELL

Window 2:
Frozen Shrapnel
Shatter Strike fires Ice Spikes from the edge of its area of effect.
More Information
Ice Spikes are cold spells. They scale with intelligence, spell damage, and cold damage.
SHATTER STRIKE CASTS ICE SPIKES

I was only asking because of the inconsistency and whether it's a visual bug or not.

[kind fjord]

yes lol

[neat flame]

should be able to see the changes attacking the ground

[strange karma]

another question "when hit" procs are for when you get hit or when you do a hit?

[neat flame]

it 100% works

[kind fjord]

The Closed Circuit node, right?

[neat flame]

yup

[kind fjord]

good to know. it's dumb there's no buff on your buff bar though

[sturdy summit]

when you do a hit is called "on hit"

when hit means you get hit

[neon lynx]

it works if u manually cast LB

doesnt work if u proc it with something like drago

[strange karma]

before you answer i citrl + alt and the game gave me a description. Thanks tho

[next lance]

Hi, can anyone tell me what stats directly scale frostbite damage? I assume int, flat elemental and percentage elemental damage? Does flat spell damage from wands increase it?

[versed wing]

anyone have any tips on ways to farm a relic with level of frost claw or the shards?

[neon lynx]

there is no tips for it

farm exalt relics with prophecies and pray

[sage siren]

are prophecies the best for endgame opposed to the bazaar?

[versed wing]

reckon the blessing to drop class shards is the best?

[neon lynx]

maybe

that should just make u see shards on the ground tho

not on gear

[sage siren]

they have a chance of being skill shards though

[grim gazelle]

good gear for fire mages?

[versed wing]

but thats OK isnt it? probably the best blessing to try for it dont you think?

[sage siren]

+fire damage + int

[neon lynx]

its okay if u only want 2 ranks

ideally u want t6 or t7 claw tho

and u cant craft that

[versed wing]

is t5 2 ranks?

[neon lynx]

yes

[versed wing]

dam

ok so definitely the other relic blessing then

[neon lynx]

and make sure when u do drop one, u dupe it with a rune of creation before u smash it into a heart

[sturdy summit]

Frostbite is not a spell and does not benefit from anything that refers to Spell tags.

[sturdy summit]

the best way to scale your frostbite damage is to get Snowdrift unique boots, and stack Freeze Rate Modifier.

Snowdrift boots give you Cold Pen with Frostbite based on your Freeze Mod

[sturdy summit]

you also want Increased Elemental Damage Over Time

[next lance]

Thanks, wanted to know if i lose any dps by using alchemist ladle, since it has low spell damage base. So none of the mace bases buff it too i assume

[digital flower]

Anyone know what dmg scales better into late game? Have crit mult on amulet/ladle/offhand already and am aiming for 2LPs. What should I be aiming for on 2LP amulet? Lightning Pen or spell damage? Same as helmets and chest, should I be going for lightning crit mult or skill lvl(spell dmg)

[winter crow]

depends on the build, generally for amulet crit multi/critchance/element pen and armor shred are the most usefull stats

[winter crow]

for helmet and rest of the gear where its possible to have int, id slam int, it scales a ton cuz it gives you dmg, ward, crit chance and cast speed if you running mad lad

[digital flower]

yeah I've already got int on the 1LPs, just tryna figure out if its ever worth to go spell dmg/aka skill lvl for the 2LPs

[winter crow]

depends on your build

[digital flower]

hmm. lightning FC

[winter crow]

frostclaw isnt on helmet so you could prob slam spell dmg or any resistance you need

[next lance]

Its not affected by int right

[sturdy summit]

hmm, tbh, I'm not sure about that one. better check.

[sturdy summit]

nope, no effect

[keen nebula]

Anyone tried this - https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/fireball-sorcerer-guide#skills-header

If so, any good?

[steady summit]

is the plasma orb RM a late game build or am I doing something wrong? feels like it doesn't do much dmg

[bronze shore]

any RM build is a late game build

you need to invest

also if you fallow maxroll then sometime the build kinda sucks

although it good

but you need to tweak it a bit

[steady summit]

i was taking some points from snap and emp, but tweaking for solo play

[agile yoke]

If you have 'Cast Speed' on a weapon, does it effect the Estimated DPS number as well?

[steady summit]

appreciate the confirmation tho man, thank you

[violet lily]

If you have 100% Mana Efficiency, does that make the spell cost 0 mana, or half as much mana?

[bronze shore]

half as much i belived

[violet lily]

ty!

[bronze shore]

may or may not true

need more people to confirmed the fact though

[wraith mica]

I think the formula is Mana Cost = base mana cost / (1 + mana efficiency/100)

so 100% would be half

same applies for cooldown reduction. 100% cdr means cooldown time would be half of the base time

[median bane]

can i slam other class affixes onto LP mage helmet?

[bronze shore]

cant

[dim vine]

no

[serene flame]

Would you go for maxroll to level à HC Runemaster from scrap ?

[serene flame]

It used to be crazy fun

With lightning/fire projectiles

[keen nebula]

yea just want to make sure it's viable

before creating new charc haha

[wraith mica]

I found a helm with perfect 100% fireball pierce/spell damage, so I'm looking forward to playing a fireball build

[sturdy summit]

half as much is correct. The formula is 1/(1+Mana Efficiency) so 100% => 1/2

[foggy cove]

I've been thinking of starting a Meteor build, but I don't want any of that cast on crit playstyle, I've just player a Smite Hammerdin and it feels quite inconsistent. I didn't find any guides for a Meteor primary skill, so I'm thinking of making my own. Has anyone played something like this recently? I don't want to push high corruption or anything, just get to awakened mono's and see where that leads me

[violet lily]

Thanks for the help! It also works on the channeling cost of skills right?

[sturdy summit]

I believe -Mana Cost works on the channeling cost. I haven't tested mana efficiency. Probably does.

[lapis wedge]

you can't have strenght on mage helmet. But u can on most unique. Doest that mean i can't wear it as a mage once it has str ?

[sturdy summit]

probably. If you put a mage affix on a helm and then put it on a unique, only mages can use it.

but maybe strength is different because it's not a class-specific affix

[lapis wedge]

yeah

it should be different

its a loophole to use cleaver solution though

[sturdy summit]

sounds like a cleaver solution ;)

[lapis wedge]

😉

[grand palm]

hi i just starting a runmaster, what is the best / most fun /easy to self gear for you ?
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/frostbite-frost-claw-runemaster-guide#gear--header
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/plasma-orb-runemaster-guide#gear--header

[serene flame]

And would you go for this build to level à HC Runemaster from scrap ?

[sturdy summit]

I recommend frostbite frostclaw

you can do it starting from low level

no required uniques

[late kelp]

Where it drop fragment of enigma?

[sturdy summit]

it's a common drop

you can even make it with rune of ascendence

[faint knoll]

hello, I have a runic invocation question

[grand palm]

fun to play, some build look great but quicly boring

[faint knoll]

https://i.imgur.com/OkknB1s.png
This says directly casting, but is there a way to passively cast it? Its for the author of arcana skill point.

[sturdy summit]

I can't tell you what you will find fun. That's entirely up to you.

but frostbite frost claw is what I'm playing right now.

[late kelp]

from any cathalyst?

[sturdy summit]

yes, only the item type matters

[sturdy summit]

there are ways to indirectly cast runic invocation with other abilities, yes

[faint knoll]

Can you point them out, google is not helping which is why I'm here haha

[late kelp]

I found this but it doesnt dropped: Timeline to target farm: The Stolen Lance ("Unique or Set Wand or Catalyst" echo rewards)

[sturdy summit]

empowered monoliths have those echo rewards. you can do that once you get to empowered.

[grand palm]

ok thx i will try it

[sturdy summit]

there's one in flame rush. and I recall another way, I don't remember what it is right now.

getting too late at night for me

[faint knoll]

oh my god, my skill ends with fire so thats AMAZING

thanks so much for the help!!

im going for an antipode of the rune slinger build

[vivid tundra]

Lightning Sorcerer my current main character

Been having a fun first playthrough

⚡🧙‍♂️⚡

[late kelp]

ok thanks. And where it drops anchor of oblivion?

[sturdy summit]

dunno, just check what it says on lastepochtools same as you did for enigma

if it says Common, it can drop anywhere

[late kelp]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwVgbAjCBMQ

[sturdy summit]

oh yeah, that's not common

[late kelp]

so i understand that it can drops from that monolit and its random?

[sturdy summit]

it drops from the boss, on empowered only

and it's rare

[late kelp]

the boss from the monolith?

[sturdy summit]

yes

[late kelp]

okk catched, thanks!

[sand pawn]

Is there a way to auto cast frost wall?

[sturdy summit]

not that I know of

but I don't know every skill's tree

[humble cedar]

How often does a glyph of insight proc from sealing an experimental affix with the rune of reserach

i've done it 10x now and no glyph

[bronze shore]

wish me luck bois im slaming a Crit multi cast speed

[sturdy summit]

glyph of insight lets you effectively remove an unwanted affix with no chance for it remove the wrong affix, so it's pretty rare.

insight followed by research to seal it

[flat shell]

Hi, one question: I want to make a Mage/sorcerer build with disintegrate as main skill. I looked at some builds and they all seem to favor crit chance passive skills and mods. However I thought that disintegrate is a DoT skill and therefore doesn't crit. So why spec into crit skills? Or am I missing something?

[bronze shore]

BRO

i miss my slammed

wtf

[sturdy summit]

rip

[bronze shore]

bs

[unborn hamlet]

? Wait fr?

Am I stupid?

[bronze shore]

not even a single crit multi or cast speed

[unborn hamlet]

I bricked so many good items when I could have just used glyph of insight?

[neon lynx]

U turn a prefix experimental then u seal it after leaving the spot empty

[unborn hamlet]

😂

[sturdy summit]

unless I am the one that is stupid.

it makes sense what I said, right?

[unborn hamlet]

Yea but isn't it random?

[neon lynx]

Ye just usually costs a lot of fp

[neon lynx]

No

[sturdy summit]

rune of research isn't random.

and neither is glyph of insight

[unborn hamlet]

Rune no, but the glyph

Ooookay,

[neon lynx]

Glyph always seals the experimental

It’s what it’s made for

[unborn hamlet]

That's the rune what does that

[neon lynx]

Yeah

Glyph u use in the spot of hope or whatever

And upgrade the affix u wanna get rid of

Turns it experimental

Then u seal it with rune

[humble cedar]

Im just trying to get a glphy of insight which procs off of sealing an experimental affix

or so the tooltip says

[unborn hamlet]

Oh ... Right, nwm

[neon lynx]

Yea

That’s how u get them

[unborn hamlet]

It's only for belts gloves and boots I forgot

[neon lynx]

Yerp

[unborn hamlet]

Then it's useless to me

I need weapon, armor and offhand pepehands

[humble cedar]

is it super rare?

[neon lynx]

No

[unborn hamlet]

I dunno, I have 17 of em

[still stump]

I swear I am about to just leave the map if its spire

I hate that mechanic

[sturdy summit]

I don't know much about disintegrate sorc builds, but you're right about disintegrate being damage over time by default, and crit not applying to that. Specialization might have changed that, though. You'll have to check what nodes the build uses for skill spec.

[median bane]

does +focus with mana qualify as mana affix for fractured crown?

[humble cedar]

I'm not talking about the rune of research i'm talking about the glphy of insight proc being rare. I've sealed 15 now and no glphy of insight

[neon lynx]

5 minutes ago it was 10

[humble cedar]

and i've done 5 more

[neon lynx]

Is someone over exaggerating to make his rng sound worse than it is?

[unborn hamlet]

I know crit shouldn't apply to DMG over time, but when I pay attention to the DOTs from frostbite, they do sometimes crit

[still stump]

the glyph feels like a 10% or so chance to drop

[unborn hamlet]

And I was reading everything, and there is nothing that allows it to crit, but it still does

[humble cedar]

I'm not complaining im trying to understand if im doing something wrong. I've never tried this before

[sturdy summit]

I don't know. that must be something else.

[sturdy summit]

I don't think you're doing anything wrong. It's just rare.