#🧙┃mage
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actually nwm, its only 3, flame rush is just traversal skill
Hey so I'm playing runemaster fireball as main skill its so fun I got a unquie idol unvars exile and don't know how it works
lemme look that up, but iirc it makes it so u can only gain 2 runes for runic invocation
gain 2 runes only
nwm thats the adorned one
Was just wondering if it's good for my build
the huge one makes it so once u have 3 runes
u cant get rid of them until u cast a skill
what do u cast with your Runic Invocation
if anything
One could argue you use flame rush and not teleport so you can get runes and runes are arguably buffs? :^)
its on my hotbar because i need to generate fire rune, yes
Just the big fireball I got it so I cast rune 1 and 2 along with the big fireball
So I cast all 3 rune skills with my fireball
so fire x3 rune then cast?
Yeah
if ur doing only fire skills regardless
that idol is useless to u then
the 33% increased dmg on runic invocation based on your int is not only RNG, but also not a huge dmg increase
to justify taking up 3 slots in idols
nwm 4 slots even
Thank you 😊
if ur just starting and u dont have any idols to fill up your idol slots, u can use it ofc
something is better than nothing, but if u have to free up space for it by sacrificing other good idols, its not worth it
oh wtf teleporting strikes just lets you cast the strike and doesnt tele you to the target locatoin?
Thank you 😊 I got better ones to use atm I'm only level 40
yea
it basically just makes mana strike long range
damn I should have read the whole skill notable
i thought I was going to be able to make a flicker strike build
that would be turbo broken 😂
this game has some turbo broken interactions so i was just hoping that spell blade would have one too
maybe the one that drops helmets
for 3LP barbute drop
black sun iirc
actually i would focus on getting twisted heart with LP until u get Dex slam on it at least, then swap to barbute corruption push
thanks for all the info @unborn hamlet
glad I got to figure out my dreams were broken before I tried them
😂 sorry
lol nah its cool, I read "Teleport" and thought it was for the strike
if u want something like that build, maybe try to look up artillery spark charge runemaster on youtube
its something of a similiar concept to what u wanna achieve
but not teleporting u, rather than the skills
Hey I just got advent of the erased with 5 weavers will on it would that be good
lemme grab a link
5 is the minimum i think
or a very low roll
I don't know if it would be good for me
im having trouble balancing the mana in mine
Nah not good it has minipn
if u got nothing better then sure, but as an item, the weavers will gives u random stats and upgrades
might roll BiS
might roll utter trash
any chance I can tag along on for an Emperor of Corpses kill at 290+ corruption for prophecy to proc?
ur using mana strike, this build uses frostclaw to trigger all this
sure lets go
what server u on tho?
no no i have a similar build
Im aus
the mana strike was me just thinking
if u willing to hop on EU for the run
dont think u get boss drops on death
emp of death is impossible to die on
yeah im keen if you are
just dont be near him
GL
for good karma
i got my heart on my third kill but havent seen one with LP since
Why do most "ward" builds also use ice elemental skills?
Guessing of cold being the tank elemental
Runemaster cfc combo= tank
Ah that's just how the game is designed you mean?
Cold == ward stuff?
Err, rephrasing: Cold damage usually correlates with ward nodes?
The runic invocation spell that gives ward needs cold-fire-cold runes.
So people usually build their hotbars to have cold/fire/cold spell for immutable invocation
I'm not a runemaster though, I'm a spellblade
well cold also correlate to freeze and chill, ailment that stop and slow down enemy, i.e control
What builds are you looking at?
Just in general, its a trend I've noticed
Builds that rely on ward typically spec into cold damage for some reason
Any math cook here? I am not sure what is better for defense, automatic lighting aegis using flame dash for the 25% reduced damage taken and unspecced flame ward VS specced flame ward and 15-20% chance to proc lighting aegis when hit from idols
Might be to do with frostbite shackles that gives a ton of ward retention
Ah, so it's the uniques?
Oh and last steps are also correlated with cold I think?
Yeah that would make sense
There's the snowdrift boots too that give cold pen for frostbite per freeze rate multiplier
And the frostbite shackles do come with frostbite on hit
its not about the cold skills
its more the items that relate to ward gen
twisted heart is one thing
but frostbite shackles are just OP
and u gen ward based on u freezing enemies, so ye
Yeah my spellblades hit 27k ward in some arenas
You get your three LP heart?
No, not using heart
he meant me
no , didnt even get a drop
its ok
stashing that Karma for 3LP frozen Ire farm tmr
🙏
How’s mage in hardcore?
Probably going to make my HC toon tomorrow now that I know how most of the game works
I’ll probably end up going HH pala
i got far too, i died to Lagon being overtuned
Haha the game just given me a pair off the boots the same ones this time with 15 weavers will
You mean the silly squid boss
Question for any Runic Invocation enjoyer, does copied scrolls (chance to repeat per energy) roll over 100% like ailment application? if i have 150% , do i have a guaranteed repeat + 50% of a 2nd repeat? or does it cap out at 1 repeat per cast?
I'm playing hc
yea, silly squid guy
his telegraphed atk for the claw stun slam is the worst designed attack fo any boss in the game
ngl
Did you not have stun proc on FW?
nah dont spec into anti stun
the claw is just bad designed atk
it doesnt go where it looks like it goes
it just follows u
Oh idk I’ve never died to a boss
sometimes it hits u across the screen, sometimes it looks like it hit thin air despite it landing on top of your head
I’ve noticed some pretty weird stuff for sure though
besides it was not the claw that killed me, it was him stunning me into spitting the lightning discharge into my face before i could move again
Yeah
nowadays i mostly die to bad modifiers on high corruption
It’s kinda busted how they set you up for the kill
mark for death is cringe for what little benefit it gives u
armor shred with crit chance + mark for death and GG
no amount of ward or jesus will save u
Jesus take the ward
The amount of wars I build on my warlock is just stupid
I don’t even play her anymore because it’s just not fun
o ye i seen them 70k shields
defo gonna get nerfed next patch i can already see it
I’ve seen it up to 160k
Mine only goes to 60-70
But I can keep it in the 30s all map if I’m trying
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeYqlPaQ
Im new and very slow ( I say this with a slight bit of comedy, and not to make fun of anyone with actual challenges)
but I imagine im wearing too many uniques instead of properly crafting gear? can you ever wear too many uniques?
either way how to I make this work better so I dont run out of mana so fast?
and I would really like to replace Focus with Blackhole (seems like good synergy? black hole nodes cast meteor and pull enemies in) then use fireball with nodes in both meteor and fireball to regen mana,
and teleport, fireward, an whatever else I can get for ward
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Release / 1.0.1
Mage (24) / Sorcerer (52) / Runemaster (8)
▸ Health: 889, Regen: 17/s
▸ Mana: 378, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 140%, Regen: 56/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 14 Dex / 29 Int / 0 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 36% / 63% / 9% / 24% / 96% / 8%
▸ EHP: 1,289 / 917 / 1,141 / 837 / 839 / 1,289 / 757
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 178
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (64)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (777)
▸ Lightning / Spell
▸ None
• Teleport (21)
• Meteor (22)
• Fireball (23)
• Flame Ward (22)
• Focus (21)
I mean the build kinda works
I have no clue about anything sorc
Hey what does mastery of the invoker do
Are you wanting to make your build work or have a working build?
@bitter ore I am really trying to play without lookin up builds
but its like reading a book and i dont like reading
Im completely joking but its just a lot to absord and I would rather a few pointers than following a guide atm
So anything anyone tells you is pretty much going to be from a guide
my gloves are on the ground and I cant see their name(therefore i cant pick them up), I tried holding X and disabling loot filter and still nothing, any tips?
You could try looking up a guide for information only and try to use what others are doing to improve your own build and not just copy one?
@mild pulsar Ive seen the same visual bug I think, where you see the rectangle highlight but no text appear? and you hover over it and can see the item tooltip? if so ive never had aproblem picking it up just the visual text bug
@bitter ore I feel you there
are there any "easy" or short term sure fire ways to get mass amounts of mana regen?
like a fancy unique?
I mean there always mana strike
the real struggle is new character on cycles so leveling while collecting mats to forge
Ive been trying to work mana regen in a build I had been working on
actually... in all honesty im just lazy I think
my Filter is prob stupid AF and my stash is full of a bunch of crap
Even went the 300+mana route with regen from the other specs tree
My entire reason for making my build is because I was lazy lol
Press frost claw and chill
How about this question, is it always better to go with 1 damage type? as a mage/sorc my options are obviously Fire, Cole, Lightning
I haven’t figure out mage enough to be able to answer
or i guess its ok to rotate as, there are items and nodes that boost, Elemental, or Multiple damge types
But I’d assume you get higher damage output from converting your skills to the same source
I kinda want to play around that elemental nova unique + teleport
Becuase the Build I want to make work..... Blackhole does base cold, and I can not convert it to lightning and a node in it will cast meteor for me; Meteor is fire but i can change it to lightning with the set staff/head Vilatrias and a node will make Fireball regen mana; Fireball I can make lightning through gloves and node and cost no mana...
but then I got those set rings, that boost "elemental cast speed"
since my spells say either fire cold or lightning but not the word elemental in the tags
does it actuall boost the cast speed? or do the TAGS actually have to say the word elemental
I believe elemental does affect all three
elemental = fire, cold or lightning
Yeah it’s one of those things where it tells you without telling you
Like I get the idea that it doesn’t say it on your tooltip
also idk about those specific set items but set items in general are in a bad spot
I'd imagine a t20+ item would be better in those slots
right but I presumed it did as well considering it wasnt a damage modifier
It does on elemental affixes on items at least
Look at the cast time with the item on and off
Oh I meant on the tool tip
And so many things don’t work as intended it’s hard to tell if it’s actually working or not
Maehlins are a great example lol
I'm not even sure if my build is bugged or not because I feel like I'm dealing more damage than I should
But maybe that's because I'm still level 76 and at 0 corruption
And mage is overall just strong af
Yeah. My current lightning sorc build is pretty fun. Just the flame rush with static orb and frost wall combo usually deals a ton of damage
I’m still trying to find a build I actually enjoy
My torment warlock is just broken to the point of unfun
Probably just going to start playing hardcore
Spellblade looks neat
is crest of unity bugged?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIeHXY9LHKI
On the off chance you want to try something literally brand new.
I’d fall asleep
Brilliant build
But I just couldn’t
I have 17 buttons I press in a fight on one of my classes in another game
That’s the exact opposite lmao
That reminds me of RF jugg from poe without the shield charge
I'm sorry, I don't play online-only games.
anyone feel like sorc spec is just terrible? im struggling at lvl 84 with echos just randomly dieing to 1 shots
How are your resistances?
Im doing ok at 73, just struggling with mana regen issues considering the build I made
I have a lot of ward generation to circumvent my resists atm and Im pretty sure im very far from crit avoidance
oh wow rune master's actually a really fun class
sorc mastery is bad, just make a runemaster
how can i know if i have frostguard buff on ?
visual around your character
I think people will cook way more incredible builds around runic invocation
Like the artillery spark charge is just insanity, might try that next rotation ngl
Already decided to just stick 1 char this cycle
3-4months , like a season yea
They said they will introduce new mechs and stuff with cycles
Well, I wanna push it to the limits, which requires RNG heavy drops
When the rng has letters in the odds
- I made my stash character bound, so all the good items I dropped for other classes are useless
I hope they will revise MG a bit, and wanna try that out too
I took a look, tried to use it for a bit, but the system is just very badly designed, as I said many times already
Just the fact the game doesn't filter your sales to the top is off-putting enough
I’ve never seen such a terrible design in my entire life
If you have like 50 pages of listings
Which is another thing, why no limit? Why no time limit?
Then, if you actually want to look for BiS items, good luck scrolling through thousands of items cos you can't even filter by more than 1 stat
So they had the mailman finish it
Lmao
You can look up more than one stat
Yes, but not with adding tier to it
If you add like t7
It will look for those stats as t7
Ah yeah
Instead of just 1 t7 stats
I just keep going down
Until I find one that has items
Then look
But I did that once
And went cof
🧎♂️
The time it will take to farm the rep and gold in order to but the gear
You can farm it
The only issue with CoF is that rank 9 is literally useless, and there is no boss RNG increase, or boss drop specific blessings
The major issue why I don't like MG as well is that if you manage to get 1GG drop
You essentially finished the game
Sell it for a billion , deck out gear, and what do you do then?
so wahts the deal with expiremental items? If there is an affix I want, I have to farm high level corruption mages for a high tier affix item to drop? I cant shatter them right?\
does anyone know of any dual wield spellblade build?
and if I use a rune of research, I can not upgrade that locked in affix any further?
nope
Nah the only one worth playing uses Enigma
That I know of
what's enigma? item?
I got it my first try using a rune
damn lol
On an off hand catalyst
So it’s probably common.
Time for a nap before the GP. Catch you guys later
Grand Prix
any plasma runemaster enjoyer above +1k corruption here?
why is mage so painful to level
yeah probably because i thought spamming fireball and using runebolt as soon as i get it wouldnt be a bad idea instead of just sticking to disintegrate until i get to monolith
Never used rune bolt or disintegrate to level either
So idk how strong those are
What level are you?
If you find one tag me, and if y have a good plasma build lmk, looking for one !
was wondering if static orb still viable
I just use my static orb as an added effect on to my flame rush.
how much ward r u hitting the most
what level are you. Do you have frost claw yet?
I've heard people who went disintegrate report disappointment with channelling abilities.
really small like 140 something but that's because of flame rush. If I add the ones I get from frost wall too, around 300
with flame barried like 1k
my dps with runebolt is like 700~ which sucks balls
level 41 currently
what do you use for waveclear?
fire x3 rune
I'm a big proponent of frostclaw + frost nova. Frost nova chains across the entire screen and clears everything.
and frost claw is your frost nova delivery system and single target damage
any spellblade mains here?
spellblade is a rare breed
yeah I've noticed as like the rank 1 spellblade got to wave 200
LMAO
is it really that bad
I'd call it neglected
it's fine up to a certain point, but it seems to not have very good endgame support
no
I'm so sad, I was following a smite hammerdin build rerolled my build to bleed hammerdin and its terrible compared to what i had and i dropped all old gear
it called people abusing bug
everybody should know by now that leaderboard is not the best place to look for how strong a build is
I spent 20mil on gear for my bleed hammerdin and now i have 10mil left and im doing worse than i was before
on the verge of quitting tbh
maxroll is so bad
if only cof worked for boss drops. i'm kinda mad about it
that's what you get for relying on build guides. Guides can help, but you gotta think things through yourself.
the guy was live on twitch i asked him whats the best hammerdin build he said bleed
so i re rolled
its actually worse
chasing "the best build" is hubris, and you just learned how futile it is. Think for yourself next time.
well certain builds are going to 2000 corrupted
and what corruption are you on?
i mean it his opinion
and then you have other builds written down and thought out by pros that can barely do 200
I farmed my enigma unqieu, but what i dont get properly how to also make it better (red color and adding like cast speed or crit dmg to it) anyone can help sorry first time playing this game 😄
max roll guide is probablly for casual anyway
if you want to push you either cook or be a meta slave
If it has Legendary Potential, you can run Temporal Sanctum to fuse it with an exalted item to make it a legendary item.
Legendary Item = Unique with Legendary Potential + 4-affix Exalted Item
will the 4 affix exalted item need the stats i want on the target at the end ?
But most higher level Uniques are virtually impossible to get with 4 Legendary Potentials
if the unique has 1 LP, it will randomly get one of the 4 affixes. 2 LP will get 2, etc
I hear people talk about a "leadership board" Is there one for corruption? The only ones I can find are for Arena.
no, only arena
It is a Gamab on what it it will take , on 2 Lp you have 25/50/25 unless you dont care what 2 of the 4 you really really need
25% to get the 2 Affixes you want , 50% chance to get 1 of the affixes you want , 25% to get the 2 affixes you dont want
That's not how probability works lol
are you sure it's 25%? It's picking 2 marbles out of a bag without replacement. Shouldn't it be 1/2 chance on the first affix, and 1/3 chance on the second affix, so 16% chance to get both.
If u have 2 out of 4 good affix
It's 1/6 for 2 , 4/6 for any 1 of the 2, and another 1/6 to not get either
2/4 * 1/3 = 16.6%
In this case , it does , you always get 2 out of 4 and if you want 2 out of the 4 but not the other 2 , it is this
picking two out of four without replacement is not 25%
you get either 1 good and 1 bad , 2 good or 2 bad
So 83% to be have at least 1 good one
But you dont pick 1 , you pick always 2 with 2 Lp
does Melee elemental damage count as Melee Damage Leeched as health?
There is no First this and THEN the other
can anyone confirm that for me?
first you pick 1 out of 4 and have 2 desired results, and then you pick 1 out of 3 and have 1 desired result. logically, there has to be a first and then a second, that's how you compute probabilities.
its a sample size of 2 out of 4 , they try sample size of 1 of a pool of 4
melee elemental damage is melee damage
wrong sample size , your thing is correct tho if you pick them sequentially
There is only 6 possible combination of affix on 2 LP item.
AB, AC , AD, BC ,BD ,CD
If A and B are good, there is 5/6 chance at at least 1 of good affix is slammed
Anyone play a sparkcharge Spellblade?
Only 6 because affix order does not matter, and affix dupe is impossible
AB = BA and so on with AC = CA , yep
and 1/6 is 16.6%, so cookie and I have two different ways of getting the same answer.
So you have : AB (good) AC , AD ( okay ) BC , BD ( also okay ) CD ( Bad ) , oh right .. 16.6 %
nvm , my bad
but how did i get the 25/50/25 ... where did i get that from >_>
maybe you did picking 2 out of 4 with replacement. Then the first pick is 50% and the second pick is also 50% instead of dropping to 33.3%
no .. i think i got my thing crosswired with Coin flip probabilities .
This means : i need more coffee , this rookie mistake should not happen , brb
thanks for your help worked well!!
out of "Alchemist Ladle" I cant make a "mad alchemist ladle" right ?
no, MAL only drops from elite mages
only in higher corruption ?
I don't think it requires corruption.
it's just not a common drop, so corruption helps
no, rng. i had ~6 ladles drop before empowered, since then i only got 1 up to 500 corruption
madge
if anyones doing an Emperor of Corpses kill above 290 corruption super keen to come along for prophecies
any buff status ?
no, there's no buff status from what i've seen
no. there is an audiovisual notification it's about to expire. It starts to wind up before it explodes.
thats sad
the windup is better than a buff timer. What's sad is that flame ward doesn't have either a cue or a timer
does the 'never late' node work with thge thing that makes flame rush cast runic invocation, i.e does the runic invocation get the bonuis from never late? (runemaster)
I'm not sure, but it doesn't say you need to directly cast the spell, so I would assume yes until proven otherwise.
Never Late gives you a buff you can see in the buff bar. You can test it by seeing if the runic invocation consumes that buff or if you still have it afterwards.
yep im trying it, seems buggy as heck. if you hit a wall with it it seems to not consume it, and if you hold it long enioough to get 2 runes it also seems to not consume it
not sure if its a visual bug or its really not proccing or what
What setup is the rank one softcore arena using? Hydra runemaster?
I don't see runemaster anywhere near rank 1. Are you looking at mage-only?
warlocks don't count in ladder
it must be a ele nova frostclaw runemaster
or lightning blast enigma runemaster
on legacy, the rank 1 is a spellblade :p
nani
who even play legacy
people who don't care about ladder
"rank 1 is spellblade" - "ppl who don't care about ladder" 🤯
Btw spellblade is not even on the first page lol https://www.lastepochtools.com/ladders/beta/latest/softcore-solo/arena/mage
For sorcerer LB/static orb should I be using quite a bit of ward per second? Like the runemaster passive if you have 60 INT and boneclamor barbute?
you can actually remove all acolyte build that have profane veild on them
like all of them
Have twisted heart and I'm building my max HP pool as well
if any acotlye with profane veil on leaderboard= unvaild
Damn sherlock, you can actually search just for mages instead remove every other class
Even sorc is better atm afaik
spellblade "blade" kinda anti climatic
make me wonder how mage is being play before runemage
I played some glacier ice barrage a year ago
honestly pretty fun
as far as pure play pattern went
im currently play crit spark charge ward gen
and i must said the ward gain is insane
no exsang/last step/shackles and i already maintain 8k ward
What do u use for wardgen aside passive tree?
mana spent to ward
i think the endgame defensive-wise the dragorath variation of spark claw is probably unbeatable
Same it's nice af but dmg can be lackluster if the gears not good
Gotta figure out something for single target
what u talking about spellblade is not bad
yeah, me saying that spellblade was rank 1 on legacy was meant as a joke. (sorry for the delay, was making coffee)
That's what i have when standing in town 😅
i actually use the multi cast projectile
so i have pretty good single dps
Wait, which build are we talking about? Not mana strike spark charge?
oh wait my bad i actually use lightning convert frost claw right now
not sure how often that updates. I checked in-game, not on lastepochtools. And I expect that in-game ladder screen is more accurate.
:white_check_mark: This character build is verified
Release / 1.0.1
Mage (20) / Sorcerer (13) / Runemaster (57)
▸ Health: 821, Regen: 31/s
▸ Mana: 127, Regen: 11/s
▸ Ward Retention: 356%, Regen: 65/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 10 Dex / 71 Int / 0 Att / 0 Vit
▸ Resistances: 78% / 22% / 90% / 100% / 70% / 77% / 43%
▸ EHP: 1,198 / 781 / 1,198 / 1,218 / 1,056 / 1,108 / 840
▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 164
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (837)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 38%
▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell
▸ None
• Frost Claw (21)
• Runic Invocation (21)
• Flame Ward (20)
• Flame Rush (20)
• Runebolt (21)
it's an enigma :sip:
Ohh yeah, that's completly different to mine
oh yeah right i need enigma for +1 lighting for frost claw
kinda sad i dont see my frost claw crit chance
Sure that u not use it for flat dmg spark charge? Cuz that's the reason 😅
having to manually calculate your real crit chance on every ability is so dumb
wym, it's part of the charm 
Anyone else having issues with Flame Rush on Emperor fight?
Flame rush had a lot of issues for me, I stopped using it
I have issues with flame rush just all the time. I use teleport.
@bronze shore btw how do you even apply a single spark charge in your build? just with the enigma + the single idol you got? o.O
i still leveling
same, flame rush animation sucks
i think later on i need to have around +3 frost claw on my shackles
traversal runic invocation is king tho
i tried flame rush with dominion glyph at the end
I was under the impression once you get to the area and glyph pops up, you exit flamerush animation
Nope
you're just stuck there for another second
so i can use spark charge on ele nova
most of the time when I use it, I float for a few seconds with like 90% movespeed reduction, and then suddenly pop into place somewhere far away. It's awful.
yeah it super expensive
use frost claw to use element nova
element nova apllied spark charge
lightning blast spark charge is probably stronger for you atm
screenwide nuke
I dont know what class to pick from mage
fps down, that´s why im not using that build
i like runebolt for now
cba to play at 30 fps
if in doubt, pick runemaster. Lots of build diversity, won't get trapped in a neglected subclass.
I'd love to use teleport but without any elemental tag on it I can't combine it with Runic Invocation properly to use in my build so I'm stuck with it. It usually works and it's not a big deal in normal monos when it bugs out but on the Emperor fight specifically it just doesn't want to do long jumps and it's so frustrating because you kinda need it there
might turn to lighting blast later
i literally cannot see boss mechanics at all with the ele nova variation
then nova
i just waltz around with 20k ward
but i use bolt for mana regen for now
but i'm probably switching out of it
nova is not as bad as explosive ballista falconer, but it´s still not good performancewise
it makes me feel very disengaged with the gameplay because you simply see nothing
Thanks bud
just hold down RMB and wait for things to die
at least it´s not a warpath vk xDD
What experimental affixes are strong in mage class
ward enjoyer is an inspired name
Or it could warden joyer
that's how I read it at first :p
i do it myself every fckn time xDD but yeah it´s ward enjoyer
funny mage ward gen
acolyte could only dream after nerf

i mean bug fix
if u know what i mean
🙂
maybe it's just better to not use experimental. But I won't say no to frenzy, haste, mana on potion use, or armor for dot mitigation, if I can get them sealed. But those seals won't transfer over to a legendary, so none of those are going on my gloves or boots.
so, on belt, that leaves only mana on potion use, sealed
wait so how the hell lightning blast work on my build again

having 2 active skill frost claw and lightning blast seems werid
one is your spender, and the other is your builder
lightning blast is free so you can spam it while mana regens
make sure you activate any damage buffs (like if you specced flame ward for bonus damage) when you enter your burst window
Does using Flame Rush count as moving for when it comes to Static?
it has the Movement tag, right?
ah
make sense
Yep just trying to work out if a flame rush and static build would work?
mmm, not an expert on the static build, sadly
Thinking something like flash rush builds up static as you move, get rush to cast glyph for you, then activate static and hopefully things die?
it doesn't unless you're running the lb-casts-on-frost-claw-crits dagger
if you have mana issues and need a builder, that's what your runebolt is for
my point was more that the lightning blast version of applying spark charge should outperform frost claw for you with your current level of gear
(not that it necessarily matters - RM is just too strong)
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Mage (21) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (67)
▸ Health: 1,114, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 185, Regen: 13/s
▸ Ward Retention: 674%, Regen: 38/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 23 Dex / 162 Int / 6 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 76% / 70% / 76% / 78% / 66% / 62% / 88%
▸ EHP: 2,070 / 1,971 / 2,070 / 2,320 / 1,756 / 1,694 / 1,914
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 223
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (127)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,358)
▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell
▸ None
• Runic Invocation (22)
• Frost Claw (22)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Lightning Blast (21)
• Flame Rush (21)
uh
wait
oh yeah im following this
this should be before +4 frost claw twisted heart
iirc this one plays by using lightning blast to apply closed circuit & lightning aegis buffs before spamming frost claw
i have my doubts as to how effective it is though
i mean any rm build using the spark charge core is going to be able to perform exceptionally well
so minor inefficiencies don't really show up easily
the builder of this build want to actually use elemental nova to apply spark charge
but for that i need +4 frost claw on twisted heart
yeah i'm playing that variant atm
What's wrong with you
that wasn't a person. that was a bot.
report and block
i think the dragorath variant is going to be the strongest at the very lategame but I'd need to find a 3lp claw to really test how it feels
it's probably the highest dps option
the laddle?
yeah
seems need a high lp though
you mean mad alchemist ladle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3JfLQczozM&t
this vid is why I think this btw - the amount of ward that gets built up is just insane
Anyone have a good hydrahedron build?
10k corruption lmao
are you sure that's legit? If it's not online and on cycle, it's not legit.
well, then it's probably hacked
it´s offline so you can basically edit your character and items like you want
^
well, i call it too bad for playing legit and the need to hack
if your point is that eventually people might be able to reach those levels with legit play, I wouldn't assume that either.
offline mode is like playing wl or falconer on steroids lmao
hmm, why not? the stats seem pretty achievable
you can read mandarin?
yes?
the tc value would only be nullified if the game itself in that video was modded in a way that would affect ward generation
i lost 1k dps according to the tool tip
then all bets are off ofc
my frost claw from 3.3k dps to 2.3k dps
since it´s full offline mode you can even edit your files and everything, changing whole parameters
That build looks bad lol
my mana strike is even doing more xD
tbf is 0 lp
ah, so they can change how the game calculates things?
so if i have an lp version maybe i can add more dmg
for example, yes
Only 100% cast speed, the att speed displayed on the vid doesnt match it looks much faster
Sorry guys but its fake xD
if you're willing to accept that they didn't edit those things, it could be used to test things like you propose, but it would require a hell of a lot of faith.
But that amount if ward is def achievable, im close to it and im not fully defensive
However you wont tank 10k with that
tcers can usually get a lot of mileage out of controlled practice tool environments like these, so i guess i'm surprised no one's done that kind of content yet (afaik)
it's probably against terms of service, I would think. Even offline.
Does anyone know if rune of ascendance is able to create frostbite shackles/ twisted heart of uhkeiros?
editing game files is probably against ToS yeah xDD
no bossdrop can be crafted
and both you named are
it's 159% - would that match your estimate?
tyty
Still low, rn im at 260% and looks even faster than mine lol
actually i'm dumb, i'm at 270 so i can just check myself
Lol
Lagon have the lightning shred blessing right?
right
time to sleep in lagon place
Fellow Mages, quick question:
For a Lightning Blast RM is stacking spell damage and lightning damage the same thing ? I've seen a video from PinchingLoaf where he kinda says both are fine but he doesnt say that you either stack one or the other..
But u should stack one or the other right ? Never both
both are exactly the same, even elemental dmg would be the exact sime
but the hight they can roll are not the same
i mean i know they do the same thing, but stacking them equally means much less damage than stacking just 1 of them right ?
stacking one instead of several makes no sense after all and the other way around imo. shouldn´t make any difference
really ?
why would be 50% something else as 25+25?
lightning damage and spell damage are the same, but elemental damage is worse. the ranges are lower.
like i said
If you want dmg, you stack int on most builds, scales harder than elemental/spell dmg
yes, you did say that
What does dex do
Does someone have a good runemaster plasma orb guide? I think the one on maxroll is messed up because if i follow the guide i have no way of popping a L rune
it gives you dodge lol
hover with your mouse over and read 🤣
Dex is good for mourningfrost build
maybe im really dumb but isnt 300% increased spell damage more damage than 200% increased spell damage and 100% increased lightning damage ?
Prob higher dmg than int builds but no ward
why should it? huh
Increased means stacks additively. 300 = 200 + 100
Ahh okay. I'm using mourningfrost
oh its additive, not multiplicative, maybe thats what im getting wrong right ?
don´t believe every BS some random Youtuber says
*Added * means base damage. Increased means multiplies the base, stacks additively. More means multiplies the base, but stacks multiplicatively.
Got it. Thanks a lot Philipov and Neos
however, take note, spell damage doesn't apply to your lightning dots, if you have any
while lightning damage does
you basically want both high base dmg + increased dmg
you're probably a crit build so you don't care about dot damage, but do note that they are different in what they apply to
not playing dot, im playing cast speed, instant spark charge explosions
if you were cold, your cold damage would apply to frostbite, but your spell damage would not
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olVg1xVQ Need to get them legendary
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Release / 1.0.1
Mage (20) / Sorcerer (25) / Runemaster (56)
▸ Health: 1,134, Regen: 42/s
▸ Mana: 143, Regen: 12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 465%, Regen: 25/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 10 Dex / 108 Int / 3 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 44% / 45% / 82% / 62% / 55% / 43% / 110%
▸ EHP: 1,075 / 1,083 / 1,408 / 1,330 / 1,174 / 1,063 / 1,408
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 282
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (549)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 129%
▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell, DoT
▸ None
• Runic Invocation (22)
• Frost Wall (21)
• Lightning Blast (25)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Flame Rush (21)
in this setup it doesn´t matter, spark charge (at least the damaging effect of it) is a spell
so u can either go spell or lightning, or elemental dmg
yeah, it's not going to matter here, but it's important to understand that for general game knowledge
the thing that lets the spark charge explode is an ailment tho
that's what why there are two different stats available
why would u
lightning dmg on drakorath?
go either cast/melee attack speed + crit multi
even lightning penetration would be better as lightnin increased dmg
don´t brick it lol
dagger sadly dont have light pen
I got a really nice body armor for my spellblade:
- +3 Shatter Strike + 118% increased cold damage
- 31% Cold resistance
- 4% Increased Health
How should I go about crafting it so I can later smash it into a unique?
(Also if this isn't the place to ask please refer me to the correct place?)
cast speed doesn't affect melee, bow, or throwing, correct?
fair
and there's no universal attack speed for all non-spells, right?
i proably dont need more cast speed
nope, just spell that you "cast"
other ones are called melee attack speed, bow attack speed, not sure if there´s even one for throwing
there is a throwing speed. Yeah, they're all specific.
you would probably want these if u cast frost claw via mana strike right?
you want those in every single setup i know
you see the slash?
but melee attack speed only make sense if u use mana stirke
" / " means or lol
yes, use the one you need depending on if you're spell or melee
Anyone?
idiotproof: generally on your weapon : melee attackspeed OR cast speed PLUS crit multiplier
🤣
if u got a 3rd LP then you can slap your increased whatever dmg or whatever penetration on
Just found out implicit are more important than mods. I am honestly so stupid it’s crazy
i cba making a good dragorath´s bricked 13 already, when just need a single melee attack speed t6+
I’m like level 60 too 🤦
i got the T7
BRO I REGRET my fros claw jump from 2.3 to 3
that so sad
i though aleast i get 1k
im also at that point where i just craft melee attack speed on my gloves before i brick another dagger xD
btw your tooltip dmg is not your actual dmg
more like a guideline if you made it worse or better
but things like resistances, armor shred, penetration whatever are not calculated into your tooltip dmg afaik
flat dmg, increased dmg and speed are surely calculated into them tho
depends on your setup
if you got an omni you can pretty much ignore every single resistance as implicit
What’s an Omni?
amulet with every resistance that exists
well 200% lightning dmg should be huge then?
also does depend on how high your base dmg is, if your int or flat spell dmg is low the "increase" won´t do too much
I straight up ignored what the implicits had. Like I only read the mod data
does int add base damage for that spell? It's usually just another source of increased damage.
100+ should be your goal for endgame, but 73 is ok for making gear progress tho
yeah it does, but flat dmg is quite the opposite of increased
show me some crazy high corrupptioon rune master 😄
I'd call it the complement of base damage, not the opposite, but point taken
read the effect of enigma
aha, it's an enigma effect, thanks
yes, I see it now
+2 lightning dmg for spark charge per intelligence
I really ought to respec to lightning. I think frostbite might be reaching the end of its usefulness.
do spark charge builds still use frostguard?
i simply assumed we´re talking spark charge builds when using lightning skills tho
the invocation?
yeah
i don´t but some do
what do you use instead?
8k passive ward in town xDDDD
and if i really need something tanky then my flame ward
i also think that frostguard is not needed if you don´t push super high corruption
I like having both frostguard and flame ward. Frostguard is basically a second flame ward, except it's got 100% uptime and refunds its cost. And its 30% less damage stacks with Flame Ward's 30% less damage.
well i´m also never ever using invocation in my setup tho i, generate ward per active rune
i only have 300 ward up all the time
you're probably still very low level then
lvl 83
ugh
oh, that's not good then
but well if i would use invocation it prop be frostguard then, yeah
yeh i try to make myself a build instead of just following and so far i got some dmg but no survive
So I'm trying to put my build on maxroll and it won't let me select the same idol again to put in idol slot or let me pick the unique gloves I use
are you playing health to ward (Lowlife) setup or ward on mana spent/spell casted?
I dunno, I recommend using lastepochtools instead
go lastepoch tools, maxrolls guide are dogshit and even more their planner
you can just import your build automatically on lastepochtools
Yeah their planner is buggy lol I'll use lastepochtools. Thanks
how big of a difficulty jump is regular monolith vs empowered?
not much, empowerd just starts at 100 corruption
i dont think i use any of them, correctly or at all. i focused way too much on fire damage and DOT i think for a fireball (DOT) build along with glyphs
well put ur gear in the website and then we can look over it
It's a significant jump if you're not fully optimized already.
i haven't done any corruption, so I'm not sure how much that affects things lol
never been good at ARPG building chars but i just used the skills that seems to be the most fun for me to experiment with
well if its your first char it might be significant then
if you're facerolling the level 90 normal timelines, you'll be fine
this pretty much
i faceroll everything but the bosses really, who can one shot me if I screw up
then you should dip into empowered
alright, thanks!
you can go back everytime into normal ones without losing progress in your empowered ones tho if u really feel too low for them
that's good to know. I'll make the push then.
i think ill just make a new mage
like sorcerer and restart the process a bit now that ive got a little bit more hold of the system, just a bit haha. 50 hours into the first RM. wich was overwhelming for me at first
sorc suffers from being a glass cannon, but you could give it a try to see if it fits you better.
the thing that makes runemage so highly valued is they're able to deal tons of damage at the same time as being very tanky
Sorc does the same thing as rm just worse. Why would u do that 😂
too many of you are d4 refugees.
D4bad
the only dice I roll are d20s
idk just have a feeling im building the RM constantly in a wrong way
hard to build runemaster wrong
think the attack speed is reasonable
i tested it at 170
runemaster is actually too op
too op infact it overshadow the other class
who would even play sorrcer and spellblade
unless for fun
of course
anyone know if the crit chance in Never Late is base crit or a multiplier? I assume it's base crit because it's 2%...
then i think im just having a wrong understanding of the skills i need to be able to build a more powerful one at the stages that im at.
or stats for that matter i mean
but unless the ward on frost claw crit triggers once per instance of frost claw crit
"wl and falconer entering the chat"
i don't see the point
a thousand warlocks and falconers stare at you blankly
i think im way too focused on fire dmg above all else
warlock even without the bug is nuts dude
although you certainly could go fire, I think going either cold or lightning is better.
and, imo, the invocation system is super fun
this is why i play Runemaster, love me an Invoker character
ah, a fellow enjoyer of fine dota heroes
yes
meanwhile me playing runemaster and using runic invocation not a single time, since i need active runes for ward regen 🤣
in practice, invocation plays as... you pick the invocation you want in your build and stick with it. It's not the sort of thing where you're using your whole repertoire of invocations depending on the situation. It would be cool if it did work that way, but as it is, it's build diversity only.
i mean it can work either way
you can make either way work
I've heard the spoon build actually does work that way, since you want to stack as many ailments as possible
which is why i'm trying to farm an angry spoon now
i'm doing it that way, i'm using all the invocations (or well, i'm using as many as i can remember)
it's great
I guess you can make it work that way, but I'm not sure how many people can actually play at max speed while manually picking all their invocations.
i got that fire wand giving me more projectiles on fireball for example, then stack the projectiles tree and use the unchained fire one. combo that with a glyph of fire at base along with the firewall and seeing hits of 30k after a while. I'm kind of a noob at ARPG things cause i don't understand the systems very well so im just trying my own things @sturdy summit
u mean frost guard?

u don´t need anything besides the ladle, since it already does apply the ailments
you can but you have to train how to do it
not at all, i mean edict of the scion node in rm tree
it was meant for you haha
my intent is to eventually have the full list down but i just messed around with it until i found some i liked (Realms of Mayhem) and then leaned on that until i got some better stuff
its really not that hard
ye
no different than how fast the people doin 2000+ play
I think I'm getting ward on crit for each projectile of frost claw from dragorath's claw
are we still talking solo no exploiting builds? o.O
is there gameplay?
'sbeen in here
fair 😅
Anyone think a disintegrate build is viable
what if someone could tag along with me in monoliths? just to see what i'm doing and give me some advice afterwards?
don´t think we can inspect your gear ingame
ah yeh thats right
your gear is prob more of a problem as your playstyle tbh
Normal monos is do your norm, strats only help with empowered monos
i think it is feels as if its chaos
well most important question since you think u die too much
do you have your resistances capped?
Should i use a build planner real quick and link it? so u can laught at me lol
lets see
if you don´t mind
ill try
ahh man ffs im already into 76 echos withouth twisted heart xD i even would like a non lp one
you could also run a quick session of endless arena and give me your charname, i can find your gear myself then
ill try that aswekk
anyone wanna kill squidboi for me rq
and i need your charname, not your account name
Zephyr
tell me when you made an entry on endless arena
it doesn´t do anything which wave you die, i just need it to search you
just let myself die at the begiining
yeh i did
I’ll be on in 10-15 if you still need help then
but let mysefl die already haha
this really sounds way more elaborate than it needs to be. Account Name + Character Name in Lastepochtools would take 10 seconds.
lul didnt knew xD
yeah, use the Import option on the top left when you go into the build planner
it will ask for account and charname
https://gyazo.com/954f9c6a38c92b611aab64b68c1a8e5c wtf a low corro (800ish) emp of corpses did 16k dmg in a single hit XD
and then you can use Share to get the link to it
omg thx way better
get ready for a laught id say
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Release / 1.0.1
Mage (25) / Sorcerer (8) / Runemaster (63)
▸ Health: 941, Regen: 18/s
▸ Mana: 128, Regen: 9/s
▸ Ward Retention: 193%, Regen: 49/s
▸ Attributes: 5 Str / 5 Dex / 41 Int / 5 Att / 5 Vit
▸ Resistances: 132% / 78% / 22% / 54% / 46% / 32% / 45%
▸ EHP: 1,147 / 1,147 / 747 / 1,004 / 889 / 799 / 882
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 219
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 18% (471)
▸ Fire, Cold, Lightning / Spell, DoT
▸ None
• Glyph of Dominion (21)
• Fireball (24)
• Frost Wall (21)
• Flame Ward (22)
• Runic Invocation (21)
I won't laugh at you, you're trying your best
and thats using static shell so like 170% increased armor lol
waaaaaaay too much ward retention
too much? what?
how is 193 too much im at 500+
drop some in favor of resists if applicable
dafuq u talk
huh im only holding 300 ward atm
193 too much is complete BS tho
Im used to just enerating enough constantly to not need all that much retention tbf
don't listen to kyo, 200% ward retention is low. Your resists should get better, but tbh, it's not as important as in, say, poe
200% ward retention is like 50 int right?
at least get them resistances somewhere near 75% if not over
have 42 int myself
Pretty low int
What's a good ward range for sorcerer? Build is still in the works but my average ward is 3k right now and I can improve it a lot I think. I know sorc is a lot lower than rune but I'm trying to push it since I made it sorc early lol
Runemaster even without ward rentention should be able to hold 1k
Since we're sharing builds, I'm struggling with survivability(ish). The occasional one shot at 240-ish corruption. Should I drop fracture crown and start focusing on Ward?
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Mage (25) / Sorcerer (71) / Runemaster (15)
▸ Health: 1,829, Regen: 21/s
▸ Mana: 846, Regen: 20/s
▸ Ward Retention: 60%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 3 Dex / 15 Int / 3 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 121% / 109% / 81% / 69% / 102% / 63% / 68%
▸ EHP: 2,860 / 2,860 / 2,860 / 3,384 / 2,860 / 2,553 / 2,673
▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 366
▸ Armor Mitigation: 46% (2,773)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%
▸ Fire, Cold / Spell
▸ None
• Teleport (20)
• Meteor (25)
• Focus (20)
• Flame Ward (21)
• Snap Freeze (21)
My int is 74 ish and im holding 10k at lv80
your reduced dmg taken from crits is fine, endurance can be ignored with ward, maybe get some more armot (but your amount is also fine for now) dodge and block can also be ignored for you
i think it´s mostly your resistances and maybe not knowing how to regen more ward
all in all it´s not too bad
What your avg ward?
Oh
i see thx will give that a shot then, gonna miss out on fire dmg since all those items build up to more fire dmg and have no rerolls left
isnt ward is the only source of reliable defense for mage
Have 0 ward seems trolling
a lot of my ward comes from frost claw
But 100% crit multiplier >_>
to make at lil more sense to you, before any dmg gets done to you it gets calculated trough your resistances and armor. at lvl 100 monster penetrate like 75% so everything that YOU don´t have at 75% let´s you actually take more dmg insted of decreasing. if that makes sense to you
Im 80 and i have 74
can´t word it better
nah i understand that, its like 30% extra when im at 45% res for example
but let´s say you got constant 20k ward or something like that, then you can pretty much ignore resistance since you won´t get oneshot anyway
instead of normal dmg
yeah
enemies have 1% pen per level, so it caps out at level 75 already
Runemaster gang
Who need res when u can stack 20k ward
walking around with 300% cold retention
- frost guard and flame ward
cause my use of stats aand skills aren't properly educated enough in ARPG's haha
@minor roost and the thing why you don´t get over 300 ward is that i can´t see anything that would generate ward for you
why Shatter strike gets +melee cold per dex while flame reave only get % damage?
hmmm. I only have 50 int at level 97. Although, I'm not struggling, either.
there isn't i coulndt find it in my build options in the ways i would have wanted it to go
the only ward generator that you got in your build is your runic invocation as far as i´ve seen it
and thats pretty bad for ward gen anyway
my ward indicator runs on flame wards only
I'm 16 at 98.
@barren pawn u beat that boss?
so yeh surviveability has been a struggle for me
if you got a passive tree on your screen, you can actually write words in top right corner to find stuff
like keywords: ward, health, damage etc
and couldnt get ir right cause i have to sacrifice (in my thinking) alot of dmg for that
yeah, I get my ward retention from cold resist, and my damage from freeze rate multiplier :p
il check
so either way you generate with unique hands (shackels and hard af to get in good shape) or you generate your ward with passives in your runemaster passive tree, or trough skills (like frostclaw or manastrike for the best example)
i know, wich has always been the problem with me at ARPGS as mentioned before lol
frost claw is like the mage's swiss army knife. Need a spell delivery mechanism? Frost claw! need more ward? Frost claw! It does it all!
32 skill point into dmg node
hi spellblade friends, is freeze chance multiplier relevant at all past corruption 1000? any chance of shatter strike perma freezing orobyss?
💀
I heard the few spellblades we got aren't going shatter anymore
think i might have to drop fireball so it seems
That tree is bad for emp mono
yeah I see them going spark, traitors
Is the maxroll plasmaorb runemaster build good? All videos I search for on youtube have a pretty different setup...
This tree is for dmg only lol
Cloud there are also some node that have bonus passive
When u have enough point in it
whats dat ign
So take out some offensive node to fill in the defensive one to activate their passive
my tired ass read that as you saying i had depression
yeh but that's kind of the thing where it always goes wrong with me in trying to make my own thing. sometimes there's too much things for me to see and do that i just spent them in dmg since those are the numbers i see most. i can't really make a good base of what i need in order to build my char in a more sustainable / protectable way u know what i mean?
Plasmaorb good, maxroll bad
I know fr fr
Whats a better site than maxroll? Ivyveins?
Cooking your own build is quite hard
God no
have you tried using invokers static touch ring on frostclaw runemaster
Not icyveins pls, thats even worse if not completly copied from maxroll
the way I did it was I looked at like 10-20 different guides to learn what people liked, and then after that I was able to make my own decisions.
maxroll builds are fine for leveling and getting into corrupteds
Best is lastepochtools or some random planer where you can see gameplay