I do love Event Horizon. EH Shield Bash is one of the earliest uber builds too
#🔱┃sentinel
scarlet thistle
simple reef
I do love Event Horizon. EH Shield Bash is one of the earliest uber builds too
earliest uber builds?
scarlet thistle
earliest uber builds?
One of the earlier kills I'd heard of in the season was using EH Shield Bash. Not as popular as the Judgement builds that were in the use though.
Certainly wasn't even as close to as fast as the one in that video though lol
simple reef
i was talking to daimonos and he said he couldnt find another person who'd killed uber with SB online aside from him
but i guess you're talking season 4 specifically?
it blows my mind that somebody would actually use shield bash to rush to uber rofl
frigid zenith
I faintly remember a SB uber clear on season 2, not sure how accurate my memory is
simple reef
season 2 SB is gamer
scarlet thistle
It was the 1.2. I'm trying to see if there's a Youtube video of it. I had heard about it via Twitch, forgot who it was tho
austere frost
@simple reef The idols for rive were pretty cheap?
Man just for the idols mg looking extra spicy better this season by a mile
simple reef
Man just for the idols mg looking extra spicy better this season by a mile
except for mana stacking 😭
austere frost
Those are pain
simple reef
to be honest i dont remember at all what i spent on rive lmc
i spent less than 1mil for sure
austere frost
I gotta say corruption sucks for me except for the mana idols got likr almost 20 perfect ones ty to it
simple reef
maybe the most expensive idols were 230 or 350k if i were to guess
i think i got one omen idol for cheap, one for 230 and another maybe 300? the ornates are cheap you just buy shit rolls and corrupt
austere frost
Thats pretty cheap they looked great and was fun seing it clap hard uber
With decent /good gear
simple reef
i would say my gear is decent at best yeah dont think i have actual good gear on any character
but at the same time i still spend so much time getting the gear cause this season is just loading screen after loading screen for corruptions in the temp sanctum...
austere frost
Yep , thats annoying,julra also annoying for 2 lp corrupts and so on, like 1 lp corrupt is so much better mentally for the player
simple reef
even 1lp is pretty bad i spent almost 2 hours trying to get +14 all attributes on pale ox today
i emptied my portal charms, my MG favor tokens, my runes of creation
and left with nothing
😂
austere frost
Yeah a lot of stuff needs to be trimmed for the player ,like I got 3k keys of each there has to be a way to do those bosses in quantity,or do multiple slams at a time
simple reef
ye for sure
austere frost
It also doesn't help that you cant get reliable exalts anymore ,not sure how mg is about that now, so failed slams hurt a lot
We need tempest strike video😅 with the combo
frigid zenith
and let us autopick those shards/keys already, I got thousands of them they're not "special, exciting loot" anymore
simple reef
We need tempest strike video😅 with the combo
too many skills to do and i only have so much time 😅
simple reef
generally i dont mess with minions
even if it's not really focusing around the forged weapons
alpine sage
No no, player dmg forge strike
forget the minion thing
In fact with forge strike you can cast it from afar
alpine sage
yeah
simple reef
but yeah same story, only so much time in a day and so many skills in the game
alpine sage
hope to see an uber video with it
hmm
If I found a way to sustain for mapping I would have tried brutality shield bash
the thing is
brutality shield bash is too strong
but you will have zero leech
okay for this spear
the obvious thing to go is electrify
but
if so what's the point of lightning throwing dmg?
and also spell dmg here
twilit jungle
if so what's the point of lightning throwing dmg?
javelin is throw
alpine sage
but that spear is designed for electrify
which does not inherit any throwing dmg
and tbh
the lighning conversion is useless
because if you want to clear map you have to put the lightning conversion node already to get the divine fury node
trail lynx
@simple reef man that forgeguard must've been such a chore to level.
simple reef
it was lmao
i shouldve just respec'ed my warpath but didnt want to pay 2mil gold
😂
but at least now i have an extra sentinel to do other fun stuff with
leaden totem
I thought u woukdnt get slowed by dilation when using shield bash event horizon.
waxen nymph
I think attack speed doesn't get slowed, but ms does
twilit jungle
i do love how i have phalanx on my tree but these keep dropping as 3lps
while phalanx drops as 1-2lps
daring lark
Do regular solar grand idols roll vitality and shred/void melee damage?
fallow juniper
Do regular solar grand idols roll vitality and shred/void melee damage?
Instead of giving you the answer I'll invite you to check the answer on your loot filter 🙂
Add the type of idol restriction you want, then add an affix line and verify whether you can check the affix you look for.
And tadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you have the answer 👍
The loot filter only shows the affixes that are possible to get with the type of item you selected 👌
daring lark
Welp, that helped. So I'll need 2x omens on altar..ffs
fallow juniper
And I believe you're a Warpath void knight with all this 🙂
daring lark
Yeah
fallow juniper
If yes, you'll actually need 3 omen idols if you wanna min max
Cause you can put a large omen idol on the side.
daring lark
That sucks lol
fallow juniper
My idols have been the biggest farm... quite annoying to do omen veil + fratured bopsss again and again.
The drop rate is terrible...
daring lark
I got decent idols
fallow juniper
Another option for you is to create a planner on lastepochtools for void knight, and you can add the idol you want and then check the affixes available for it.
daring lark
Altar is where I'm getting cucked at
fallow juniper
Yep that's quite a pain
Mine with 3 omens sucks... I only have 2 good lines on it, the omen one and the hybrid pref suff..
But UA is down anyway so that's min maxxing
daring lark
Samew
I'm trying to reach 90 vitality, but I'm not sure how much of a dps boost that is
south ledge
fallow juniper
I'm trying to reach 90 vitality, but I'm not sure how much of a dps boost that i...
Honestly I don't see the relevance. Even with all idols at 7 vita and T7 on boots you're missing a lot of vita. That means you either need to remove other affixes elsewhere and that's nearly impossible, especially when you start gearing with uber aby gloves and relic (less likely to get LP2/LP3 versions). Or you manage to get an INCREDIBLE altar that has 3 omen idols and several lines of maxxed prefixe and suffixes boost...
And all this for.... 10% more void damage..... 🤷
fresh mango
Honestly I don't see the relevance. Even with all idols at 7 vita and T7 on boot...
T7 on boots really helps reaching 90 vit, i'm at 102 rn
Remember that VK tree also gives you more void dmg per 3 vit, health is a nice bonus
fallow juniper
I have T5 on boots and all idols but one with +7 vita and am only at 66 VITA... I don't see the point of reaching 90 tbh.
What's your altar? Cause 102 vit means you might have an incredible one.
fresh mango
+45 total prefix bonus
fresh mango
2
fallow juniper
Did you calculate the related loss of not having the 3rd omen idol?
fresh mango
Did you calculate the related loss of not having the 3rd omen idol?
I mean, isn't the only bonus having an extra spot for minor idol? I have a solid enchanted and corrupted normal ones, so i'm fine with what i have rn
Maybe i'm missing something
fallow juniper
65% inc melee damage and 80% shred and 10 flat melee are something 🙂
fresh mango
65% inc melee damage and 80% shred and 10 flat melee are something 🙂
Where did you get these numbers tho 😄
fallow juniper
What you can get from a large omen idol
As I guess with the two you have you prioritized the vita on grand omen idols.
fresh mango
I don't see how i can put 6 omen idols in my pyramidal, what's the max roll on a T7 omen affix? 4 right?
fallow juniper
Why do you talk about 6 idols?
The three affixes I mentioned are from a single large omen idol
fresh mango
I have a large omen idol
fallow juniper
Ok so you're missing one Grand omen idol
so that's 7 vita + 80% shred or 90% inc void damage + 10 flat melee dmg
am really not sure missing this is worth the 90 vita bonuses
fresh mango
I have 2 grand omens, 1 large, 2 normal grand ones and 2 minor
fallow juniper
hmmmm
fresh mango
You said 2 omens...
Yeah +2 affix, which is 3 total
fallow juniper
lol ok
fresh mango
lol sorry
fallow juniper
In that case you have an incredible altar as I supposed 🙂
gg
Mine sucks a ton but could not get better
👎
Do you play merchant's guild maybe? Or you got lucky?
fresh mango
Yeah mg, but this one i dropped i'm pretty sure, or definitely sold similar one
I'd have to check
fallow juniper
I spent weeks farming omen stuff, got bored at some point...
fresh mango
The good thing is that we don't really need mana on altars, so we can focus on prefix bonuses and +2 omens
fallow juniper
RNG is too large on those items
fresh mango
Yeah you kinda need T4
fallow juniper
if only we could craft on them 🙂
fallow juniper
That one I had would be great for an Erasing Strike build I believe..
40% pref 47% suff...
and a bit of mana as a cherry on the cake
south ledge
running with this. One of the best I got for crit judgement
wooden monolith
I spent weeks farming omen stuff, got bored at some point...
Got bored too, playing like 30 min per day, will take a year to get decent omens
fallow juniper
Got bored too, playing like 30 min per day, will take a year to get decent omens
Yep... I'm feeling the very end game loop is not fun at all. Reminds me of other games who did the same.
**Omens **
- Run omen veil and drop the boss
- Find a cemetery and put all your boss echos
- Run all the bosses
- Get nearly nothing out of it
- Repeat
austere frost
You are also incentives to do this non stop since idols are far more important than getting the perfect altar
You maybe get 400 to 600 done and still not have 1 perfect idol in cof MG doesn't have that problem which is bs
south ledge
I expected fractured prison to be purchasable...
fallow juniper
I think the core issue is the RNG being too large on those items
wooden monolith
Yep
daring lark
If we could craft with a chance of t6 dropping
fallow juniper
That's nice to be able to drop an idol from another class when you're planing to make rerolls, but the consequence is too harsh
daring lark
That would make sense for altars
Getting complete BiS idols is out of the question tbh
austere frost
I expected fractured prison to be purchasable...
What a Qol you expected from ehg
Worst part is having to do omen veils just to do fractured prison for idols
The boss not bad to farm at all but omen veil is too boring for like no rewards
fallow juniper
On my side I'm fine with the way to gather the boss, but as it's already quite a pain to stack this echo and then to put them on a timeline etc, I'd hope the drops are attractive. Which I feel is not, too much RNG range
Both events are impacted by that bad RNG range
For example just making sure you can't drop an omen idol for another class, would make the results much more in line
To me that's really a RNG range issue
austere frost
So I just put 50 omen then do like 40 fractured,then put idk 60 omen and 50 fractured and you keep going until you are lucky to hit at least 3 omen idols good not decent like good
daring lark
After 60 omens the best I got was
austere frost
I throw all the min rolls ,thats another huge bad part i drop bis idols but if it min rolls its just trash
Like why cant we reroll that stuff after like a year already past 1.2
fallow juniper
Yep too large RNG... we're losing too much just by droping other classes Omen idols
south ledge
is this judgement node additive with army of skin?
austere frost
is this judgement node additive with army of skin?
No its all multiplicative
austere frost
I wonder if we can one shot uber with judgement
You doing brutality ramapancy?
Combo
daring lark
And once you play WP you don't feel like playing any other class which is as fast/fun 😛
south ledge
I'm not doing it, but that combo might be able to do it
austere frost
Then no
south ledge
crude matrixBOT
south ledge
this is my build currently
austere frost
And once you play WP you don't feel like playing any other class which is as fas...
Meh I played mana flay and its extremely fun as well
south ledge
it's already pretty strong
wooden monolith
Gavel+ set item is working ?
south ledge
yep
the blade has a crazy good roll, and doubling that with the gavel is insane
also the corrupted affix gets doubled
wooden monolith
Weird, it s considered as an exalted?
daring lark
Mana flay?
I'm quite done with WP in terms of building on CoF, I don't want to play the cheese rogue build either
south ledge
Well it is an exalted, with a set affix. I'm not sure if it's working as intended or not. But I think it's fine that it works like that.
austere frost
Mana flay?
The teleport got nerf but this was the most fun build of 1.3
fallow juniper
I'm quite done with WP in terms of building on CoF, I don't want to play the che...
You could switch to Erasing strike 🙂
Gear is very similar
daring lark
I played ES when Uber Aberroth was launched
austere frost
Imagine teleporting all map while having 30 to 50 less ms than warpath but still keep up and destroy bosses like nothing
daring lark
Only reason I didn't play this season
daring lark
Imagine teleporting all map while having 30 to 50 less ms than warpath but still...
Is there a build on maxroll?
austere frost
Definitely
In 1.3 thats was like second or 3 best clear of the patch and like top 3 bosser
fallow juniper
From what I recall Mana Flay is very squishy while trying to get the min maxxing done
A friend played that this season and stopped for that reason sadly.
wooden monolith
it's already pretty strong
How do you get your life back ? With no leech and no consacrated ground ?
austere frost
Meh its not tanky unless you get the gear going its expensive,is it worth doing definitely
south ledge
health regen + healing hands, permanently full HP
austere frost
Whoever didn't play it ever specially in 1.3 I feel bad about it
austere frost
Is there a build on maxroll?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bakb67j1 mine,I gave some of my perfect mana idols to my erasing strike build
crude matrixBOT
daring lark
Ty
wooden monolith
From what I recall Mana Flay is very squishy while trying to get the min maxxing...
I remember a very tanky mana flay build from noobzor, he was face tanking ua with his build
frigid zenith
yeah you can run a tanky version, I think the only thing I can't tank from UA is the big slam
wooden monolith
austere frost
You can with deathseal
frigid zenith
mine's not tanky enough last I tried haha
even with deathseal
well it was unspecced version but still
austere frost
He is using specced death seal in the video with this you facetank anything without it you still can facetank while is active but not same,to be fair my gear is way better now so I can facetank uber easily
wooden monolith
A friend played that this season and stopped for that reason sadly.
Tell him he was wrong, and can come back
austere frost
Mana flay its expensive but its stronk like new boss dies in no time to it and I can tank anything
wooden monolith
New boss sucks, i can face tank with warpath ^^
austere frost
Its a joke for sure when omen veils is way harder content
At least he is not annoying to farm like omen
wooden monolith
Omen veil is pretty easy with warpath
Just spin and win ^^
At 1k corruption though, didn t push higher
austere frost
Well it takes much longer thats thr problem
Also I can get done like 3 to 4 boss before checking what I got and clean inventory omen veil is after 2 you need ro do this
south ledge
primal cadence is good for omen veils btw
but yeah still tedious
and farming lightless arbor is killing me
austere frost
Idk why we dont have still an option to use like 10 keys and give like 10 kills of boss loot or something
wooden monolith
the blade has a crazy good roll, and doubling that with the gavel is insane
Nice build, now i want to try a similar build, but not a judgment build, i don t like judgment
wooden monolith
Playing sentinel builds only
south ledge
also forge strike if you like that skill
wooden monolith
I don t lol
wooden monolith
Multistrike
wooden monolith
Is powerfull
wooden monolith
I killed ua with multistrike paladin
south ledge
in that regard vengenace + judgement is perfect
wooden monolith
With 2h though
glacial wedge
Why not shield throw dot or erasing strike
south ledge
and this build even skips his first phase entirely in like 50% of trys lol
simple reef
wooden monolith
skill issue
Not sure, your build seems pretty squichy
wooden monolith
Yeah but no leech, no crit reduction and no dr
south ledge
don't need leech with this amount of healing
and I have a set belt with crit mitigation
but I feel like the brewmaster belt is still better
wooden monolith
@noobzor 6sc kill ? Nice lol
simple reef
https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/427577948435120140/1496506019868...
and @alpine sage might also interest you
south ledge
looking for 3 LP boots, getting 4 LP helm
waxen nymph
https://youtu.be/AfGDczFPQDo?is=66IvtjqruYeShC_E
Pretty funny
waxen nymph
https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/427577948435120140/1496506019868...
Lovely
Love to see it
The unspecced Warpath is a nice touch 
simple reef
LOL
simple reef
i knew i was kinda capping when i said "i dont see the void cleave potential" earlier then daimonos basically told me "nah u should really look at void cleave"
alpine sage
rip brutality+rampancy season 5
simple reef
+frenzy belt
alpine sage
need to enjoy the combo as much as we can in this season
simple reef
idk if they need to nerf too much cause these builds cant map anyway LOL
unlike, you know, rogue 😂
simple reef
and it's still super point starved
maybe sword catcher is a good option too
i didnt really theorycraft sword catcher i saw that eclipse was one shotting so i went with it
cause lazy also eclipse is cheaper on market than sword catcher
waxen nymph
Eclipse is a shit ton of Flat
simple reef
yeah but so is sword catcher when you stack frenzy effect
alpine sage
I see that void cleave is quite point hungry there
waxen nymph
True
simple reef
and it has +6 to melee which is really good for VC
simple reef
on my rive build sword catcher gets 254 flat just from the frenzy line
alpine sage
:)))
simple reef
if you have better gear you dont need momentum
alpine sage
ah yeah
simple reef
i had to really minmax cause my gear couldnt quite get there without it
alpine sage
I wonder if it's better than the tongue spear
simple reef
but if you hit corruptions on like body armor, helmet, relic, boots
alpine sage
at least for physical builds
simple reef
there's still a lot of dmg to get then you can just do anomaly dev orb
then you dont have to press vengeance or warpath
alpine sage
if you have better gear you dont need momentum
huh but you aren't channeling warpath there
simple reef
wdym
austere frost
https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/427577948435120140/1496506019868...
I knew good job excellent
Void cleave has a ton more damage and best part it actually scales with vitality so you get a ton increased from the combo
austere frost
Eclipse is a shit ton of Flat
Not worth imo frenzy axe way better
I did a planner for myself
simple reef
yeah my eyes lit up when i was spreadsheeting and saw the vitality scaling
waxen nymph
Not worth imo frenzy axe way better
Cool
simple reef
ye i think frenzy belt is 2x the dmg
if im not forgetting stuff on my spreadsheet anyway
hybrid crown
@simple reef saw your VC build that's nice. I had a planner setup to try and make Ravaging Aura good again with similar setup. Granted I wasn't crazy enough to do multistrike too lmao
simple reef
rofl lmk if you manage to make ravaging aura good
i've never played that
except for the overleech 😂
hybrid crown
won't be as good as VC cause I can't get access to the belt, but at least I get brutality
austere frost
I think if you kill uber under 9 min with ravaging aura you can consider it a success lol
daring lark
Not Ideal but I'll take it
hybrid crown
I think if you kill uber under 9 min with ravaging aura you can consider it a su...
9mins does beat smelter's!
wooden monolith
No ideal ? Are you kidding ? Its very good for lp3 titan, wtf where are you getting all thoses double/triple exalted ? You farming nemesis ?
daring lark
I'm actually farming for Shattered world Frenzy, doing batches of UA and then running nemesis to slam
I've gotten a bit lucky with triple exalted items ngl
Although not so lucky with Shattered World
Frenzy
alpine canopy
Rav aura is perfectly fine for clear, it's bossing that sucks
waxen nymph
It's like locust Swarm at home 
hybrid crown
at least locust swarm would scale with melee affixes
@alpine canopy wanna check my planner? it's a bit of combo gameplay before you start the aura lmao
iron basin
playing my FG this season keeps making me want to play smelter's lel
hybrid crown
I was making it more for clear, hence the area idols. The area gets so huge lmaoooo
waxen nymph
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/yi87p90n
Oof
Maxroll planner on mobile 💀💀💀
hybrid crown
all the planners suck on mobile, but maxroll is very nice on PC UX is much better in a lot of cases.
hybrid crown
yeah that's fair, just a lot of QoL missing in LETools
I'm sure Dammitt will add it eventually tho
iron basin
there's parts of maxroll's planner i like more, but LETools is comfy
i like how you can easily move between related tooltips on LETools
hybrid crown
true referencing is good, but I mostly use tunklab for data dig ins 😛
tbh I use them all for various reasons 😄
iron basin
yeah i go to tunklabs when I need specifics
alpine canopy
<@496697006115520525> wanna check my planner? it's a bit of combo gameplay befor...
Pretty similar setup to my old planner, of course this is not up to date with primordials and altars and whatnot: ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ow6x6vNB
Main difference is how we use abyssal echoes, looks like
but otherwise, I assume you're doing the same thing, chilling in warpath, hitting vengeance, then hit VC once warpath is back up
hybrid crown
I mostly focus on buffing the aura. And yeah that's the combo
I'd add multistrike if it wasn't a pain
alpine canopy
yeah, MS not worth it imo
hybrid crown
and DO is good too, but I couldn't decide between it and sigils
alpine canopy
I put a lot of focus on getting mana recovery on mine to spam AE, since that was the best bossing damage I could get
hybrid crown
Think it might be better with brutality and other sources of multi now?
alpine canopy
and DO is good too, but I couldn't decide between it and sigils
Yeah, it's a toss up really, I just went with it since it was another auto spell for funzies, but idk which is better
hybrid crown
same, felt I got more out of sigils outside of the damage, but DO you get shred
alpine canopy
Think it might be better with brutality and other sources of multi now?
For sure, I wonder whether it's worthwhile or not to max its mana cost with nether charge for brutality
we already stack strength, so the damage will definitely benefit
granted, losing all the armor hurts
hybrid crown
oh maybe, I didn't even think about maxing it haha
yeah the armor hit will be tough...
austere frost
No ideal ? Are you kidding ? Its very good for lp3 titan, wtf where are you gett...
Nemesis spam basically
topaz shell
Fun to see all these Brutality + Rampancy combos killing Uber.
remote iris
Not Ideal but I'll take it
What was setting when you catched it ?
topaz shell
One idea for cook: Time Rot Erasing Strike.
It should inherit the bonus from Brutality (since it affects ailments applied by melee skills) and also is affected by Attack & Cast Sped thus being affected by Rampancy.
twilit jungle
It should inherit the bonus from Brutality (since it affects ailments applied by...
cook it up
alpine sage
*back to fire dot smelter's wrath*
yeah but are you sure you can survive 2 sec channeling the skill?
alpine sage
but now you are stacking brutality and rampancy
iron basin
people overestimate how bad standing still for 2s is
alpine sage
you are a glass cannon now
iron basin
i ain't stacking rampancy*
twilit jungle
people overestimate how bad standing still for 2s is
i stand still in front of some of uberoths skills as a glass cannon dragonsong for 3-5 seconds
you cant ell some people dont actually play the game at all
yap yap yap
twilit jungle
it took 10 minutes to kill *normal*
10 minutes how can you make it much better at this point?
iron basin
brutality 
i need to check to see if increased area with melee area attacks actually affects the DoT multi. it might only scale with normal increased area
i just assumed it did when I geared out last time
twilit jungle
tbh ive never seen smelters wrath used so i dont know how it even works 😭
topaz shell
i need to check to see if increased area with melee area attacks actually affect...
An idea for you: since you are not stacking Rampancy, what about Cleaver Solution + Brutality = Madness? Exulis gives Area with Madness, but the skill need to have the "Spell" tag, i don't remember if Furnace gives it to SW.
iron basin
tbh ive never seen smelters wrath used so i dont know how it even works 😭
You channel a cone in front of you for 2s and then deal a burst of damage
increased area for area skills affects the charge time instead of increasing hte area of the cone. there's a node on the tree that converts increased area into more damage over time instead at triple the value
iron basin
An idea for you: since you are not stacking Rampancy, what about Cleaver Solutio...
maybe, but then you need to get crit avoid instead of crit reduction
which FG doesn't really have a lot of access to. you'd basically be required to use blessing + ring
twilit jungle
maybe, but then you need to get crit avoid instead of crit reduction
can you get blind on hit
if thats even a solution
iron basin
you wouldn't hit remotely often enough for it to matter
twilit jungle
figured
iron basin
smelter's wrath is ostensibly a melee crit skill. it just technically has support on the tree for a Fire DoT build
it's fun to one-shot timeline bosses with
hybrid crown
do it with axe throw 😄
twilit jungle
something fundamentally wrong with this game to drop me easy 3lps
there we go. complain and you shall receive
frigid zenith
daring lark
What was setting when you catched it ?
It was 3 t7 random and one t3
daring lark
<:heavybreathing:570777048696619048>
Rune of Redemption and lucky rolled warpath, rune of havoc to open another prefix and chaos and got the void echo.
Then redemption for w/e health and stopped
iron basin
do it with axe throw 😄
assuming the axes inherit the Fire DoT multipliers, it unironically might be good
hybrid crown
idk much about that, just know about the volley stuff, it's gets most of the multis in the tree except the per ignite one.
iron basin
so the tooltip here says hits, but the Cliffnotes says "More Damage"
i assumed it would affect ignites or Furnace, but does anyone know?
iron basin
idk much about that, just know about the volley stuff, it's gets most of the mul...
the main problem I had when trying Fire DoT was how few ignites you actually apply at a time. I didn't really think about the axe volley potentially adding a bunch
frigid zenith
Rune of Redemption and lucky rolled warpath, rune of havoc to open another prefi...
you mean havoc or something for health? how do you redemption without also changing the chaos and warpath
twilit jungle
someone explain to me just how the echo works with vengeance?
is it simply on it with 15% chance when you take 3 pts?
on hit*
iron basin
crude matrixBOT
iron basin
i think i might start with something like that
there's gotta be tons of spots to optimize but I was just throwing things in
wooden mountain
someone explain to me just how the echo works with vengeance?
you can't echo unless you're a VK, if you are a VK you should get your global echo chance plus the echo chance from that node to echo
iron basin
needs a better forged weapon generator. can't afford to get to 30 attunement for maxed iron blades chance
twilit jungle
you can't echo unless you're a VK, if you are a VK you should get your global ec...
really you cant echo as a forge guard??
wooden mountain
really you cant echo as a forge guard??
nope echo is a VK only thing
I'm pretty sure anyway
iron basin
it's VK only
wooden mountain
maybe that node is the sole exception that lets you echo without being VK
twilit jungle
How can you tell? if it echoes btw
wooden monolith
can we get double exalted from prophecies ? someone tried ? is it worth it
iron basin
can we get double exalted from prophecies ? someone tried ? is it worth it
yes you can
wooden monolith
i won t slam 1T71T5 on immortal vise it s a waste
iron basin
How can you tell? if it echoes btw
there's a purple voidy knight that performs the attack afterwards
wooden monolith
on 2lp immortal vise
wooden mountain
How can you tell? if it echoes btw
a purple translucent sentinel pops into existence where you were standing when you did the attack, repeats it and then vanishes
iron basin
it also makes a cool whooshy void sound
twilit jungle
ima login to my old character see if i can produce it
wooden mountain
you can get up to 40% chance to echo globally if you spend 16 points at the end of VK's passive tree so it's not hard to trigger it.
Your melee attacks, throwing attacks and void spells have a 10% chance to be repeated by an echo 0.5s later (excludes movement abilities and Anomaly).
twilit jungle
you can get up to 40% chance to echo globally if you spend 16 points at the end ...
going full forge guard for the spear shield combo for vengeance
wooden mountain
honestly they should remove all the downsides from forgemaster's might and just let you have a 2h weapon for free
not like forgeguard is OP
wooden mountain
going full forge guard for the spear shield combo for vengeance
you definitely won't be echoing as forge guard
twilit jungle
Then those 3 points on it are useless kek
frigid zenith
wdym you don't want timerot on your FG 
austere frost
You should be doing physical not void knight variation anyway
twilit jungle
You should be doing physical not void knight variation anyway
I was waiting for the "You should"
If i could erase you out of existence in one second
I would
frigid zenith
erasing strike?
austere frost
If i could erase you out of existence in one second
That's ok I ain't malding like you 🤣
twilit jungle
That's ok I ain't malding like you 🤣
Your life is meaningless if you have to tell people what they should do
In a game where exploring is the whole idea :>
austere frost
Guy sounds like he is a teenager,maybe he is👍
austere frost
Your life is meaningless if you have to tell people what they should do
You should explore smelter wrath is very good 👍
twilit jungle
I didnt ask for your opinion on what i should do. Nobody wants to hear what they should do if they wanna explore the game their own way
Crazy food for thought, concept to grasp I know
austere frost
I didnt ask for your opinion on what i should do. Nobody wants to hear what they...
My guy you get mad at so many people ,I would stop using the internet if you get tilted this bad about anything,not likr you can just skip anything said and do whatever you know,when you are mad at a lot of other people its not a them problem its a you problem,go do some reflection 👍 .
You sound like a dota player and I would know about that🫡
twilit jungle
My guy you get mad at so many people ,I would stop using the internet if you get...
Ironic youre telling me again what i should do when you wouldnt even tell people what they should do in their life because you assume to be having the right opinion 😂
frigid zenith
guys, chill
twilit jungle
But i guess its easy to tell others what they should do since its the internet just like you mentioned, especially when not asked for 😂
austere frost
You were getting mad at raguyol for no reason same thing ,same thing on chat ,its a you problem at this point reminds me of someone ingame chat,daddy chill how they say 😅
twilit jungle
A very much me problem when you post something to show off but people then tells you that youre playing the game wrong because they think their idea of the game is the only way. Its something not very bright people do a lot of the times.
twilit jungle
Thats one of the craziest 3 lp hits ive seen on the first empowered
iron basin
poison vengeance build baby
actually bleed chance would have been pretty sick on phalanx
twilit jungle
actually bleed chance would have been pretty sick on phalanx
The problem with Vengeance is that the fire conversion is sick thanks to frenzy right
But shattered chains got change to void only now so it became less attractive to build it that way
I do wonder how effective bleed could be though
If i dont use the doom ring with chains belt then what else do you really use
waxen nymph
I do wonder how effective bleed could be though
Ignite is pretty strong if ever
twilit jungle
Ignite is pretty strong if ever
question is how many ignite stacks would you want to be satsfied?
waxen nymph
Yes 
iron basin
"Next question"
twilit jungle
😂
crude matrixBOT
iron basin
ignore the resists we'll fix it in post
twilit jungle
Instead of going void because of shattered chains
You could do some interesting with this
I doubt the build would survive much without attacking too often lol
iron basin
with T7 mana gain with vengeance on your chest you could out pace the drain
twilit jungle
with T7 mana gain with vengeance on your chest you could out pace the drain
🤔
I do have a 3LP titan heart im gonna use..
iron basin
vengeance itself isn't really the greatest hit skill though
it's more like a utility skill that could potentially have great ailment scaling
twilit jungle
Seems to do fine the way im gonna play it at 1k c
iron basin
ooooh i just saw that the drain accelerates
twilit jungle
yep
iron basin
nah you're not outpacing it. I thought itwas just your attacks drained 20 mana
twilit jungle
That would be the fever dream 😂
Question begs then. How does doom, rot scale precisely if i dont get dot% etc
iron basin
Doom as a dot doesn't scale
iron basin
like, technically yes it does but it's not a source of damage
Rot has been mostly solved I think in terms of how you set it up. you can change up your applicator but the builds all end up being mostly the same
twilit jungle
Then focusing on hitting as hard as possible is the best idea here and everything else is a bonus
That is when it comes to void
Otherwise fire is much easier to go with
iron basin
yeah time rot you tend to want to have tons of multipliers on your applicator and apply all of the stacks at once
you only have to get 12 so it tends to be pretty easy
twilit jungle
Which is easy if you just put 2-3 points in the rot one
iron basin
@waxen nymph okay wildfire embers got me thinkin, ignite forge strike. we turn the world into a gigantic weapon's forge with wisps
twilit jungle
but the echo is usless and so question begs is it worth it and answer is no
That is actually a baller idea
Maybe not a boss killer unless you make it happen
But a map killer Oh yesss
Vlad ban him if he doesnt do the build NOW
iron basin
it'll probably just be another builder-spender forge strike, but i think there's potential there
assuming the bugs with embers all got fixed
alpine canopy
It sounded like there never actually was any bugs with it, it just sucked lol
they did buff it though
iron basin
i thought the wisps weren't utilizing your skill trees
i don't really care too much about the spread stuff, but not copying your skill tree is pretty lame
south ledge
oh damn 😄
alpine canopy
They were, I think there were some tooltips that were bad though. Stuff that requires direct cast but not clearly shown.
iron basin
twilit jungle
ignite duration: 38%
Its like putting your finger on the stove by mistake and you unconciously removing it because it hurts
twilit jungle
Ah ok just me misinterpreting that
alpine canopy
I'm waiting for them to fix vengeance's blade paladin (for real this time) before I run wildfire sentinel 
waxen nymph
Pretty sure its fixed
At least its working enough that mistia killed uber in a decent time with it
daring lark
Quick question, on CoF is it worth using the double reward + double proc lense?
iron basin
you know i've still yet to play with manifest armor. it'd be cool to run around with a robot
waxen nymph
Quick question, on CoF is it worth using the double reward + double proc lense?
If you generate enough favors , yes
daring lark
Meh, Omens don't give enough favors as is
waxen nymph
Like if you farm at 500c+ I would consider doing double double
daring lark
Yeah but currently I'm only doing omens veil mainly
At 1k
And that doesn't give proper favor I think
iron basin
oh melee manifest armor might be okay with primal cadence
alpine canopy
Pretty sure its fixed
Is it? 👀
I don't remember seeing it in patch notes since the last time
twilit jungle
someone put a gun to my head and shoot me
iron basin
no ty
wooden monolith
Yeah but currently I'm only doing omens veil mainly
doing the same as you and using double reward, it s less clicks, it s way better
daring lark
2nd one today from nemesis, okay?
daring lark
Oh, gloves/boots are a totally different story
I've got zero t7/t6 gloves/boots yte
Yet*
twilit jungle
the very last and worst one hit them
this is why this game is so shit. you farm all day and youre excited to hit a few but instead youre met with demise and depression
not even guantanamo bay tortures you like this
Right i shouldnt care about not having at least 30% for 9% more damage its not the end of the world.
I could just get more 3lps on my way and reroll
Best way to go about these gloves to get attack speed?
Need that block and attack speed to be t6, t7
i wish these didnt have a sealed affix 🙁
iron basin
I could just get more 3lps on my way and reroll
you can just use all the failed slams to reroll it
twilit jungle
you can just use all the failed slams to reroll it
Yeah im aware but is it worth it if i dont get 8-9 roll iwth better block chance when riposting?
flat damage is 103 as well
that ranges from 60 to 108 iirc
Yup
iron basin
i mean do you need better block chance? it's so easy to block cap
or is this on VK and not FG
twilit jungle
Still FG i wont touch VK
arctic loom
for erasing strike, which affixes are BiS for shattered worlds LP2? mana and strength or mana and crit strike multi?
twilit jungle
for erasing strike, which affixes are BiS for shattered worlds LP2? mana and st...
iirc crit multi unless str stacking does more for you no?
wooden monolith
No gloves but nemesis gave my a 2t7 belt ^^
twilit jungle
i mean do you need better block chance? it's so easy to block cap
getting more block is a bonus alongside block effectiveness
iron basin
yeah but I mean do you actually need the extra block chance
anything higher than 100% doesn't do anything for your actual blocks
twilit jungle
but it does for the phalanx
wooden monolith
for erasing strike, which affixes are BiS for shattered worlds LP2? mana and st...
Why mana ? I don t think mana is bis
waxen nymph
No gloves but nemesis gave my a 2t7 belt ^^
No way !!
iron basin
No gloves but nemesis gave my a 2t7 belt ^^
was that a 2LP nemesis or did it actually stick those affixes on
because that's insane luck
twilit jungle
Casually having one of the sickets belts congratz
waxen nymph
Now corrupt
arctic loom
Why mana ? I don t think mana is bis
because i am using world splitter for Erasing strike? im just wondering if the 2nd affix on relic should be Strength or Crit strike multi.
iron basin
wooden monolith
Now corrupt
I ll corrupt the next one
iron basin
man laceration feels like it should be scalable
there's tons of stuff on the rive tree that affects it, it's a physical ailment for things like PoE Boots
Leviathan Carver exists for crazy base damage
iron basin
that's a good way to look at it
wooden monolith
Casually having one of the sickets belts congratz
i casually played a lot, since i got the double exalted, i had to farm the shattered chains
wooden monolith
because i am using world splitter for Erasing strike? im just wondering if the 2...
sorry bad reading
daring lark
Oh shit not bad
austere frost
because i am using world splitter for Erasing strike? im just wondering if the 2...
Mana ,then in general strength,if you want more damage t7 void cleave plus mana is better,
iron basin
I kinda want to see how far you can go with the spell half of erasing strike. Void rifts and void beams everywhere
daring lark
I don't think I'll get an altar better than this in CoF
twilit jungle
what do i even ascend 😭
twilit jungle
I don't think I'll get an altar better than this in CoF
i think so and because i think so i demand you to give that one to me :>
daring lark
😄
austere frost
Thats a pretty sick one
wooden monolith
I don't think I'll get an altar better than this in CoF
it s pretty good, now you need the omen idols though
more farm
daring lark
I got all max vitality / 50% shred omen idols
I cba chasing for perfect with haste corrupt though
wooden monolith
ok, now you need to play my char then
cau i don thave a single good omen idol ^^
daring lark
But then what's the fun of CoF if you it's not self farmed 😄
austere frost
I got all max vitality / 50% shred omen idols
This are normal idols right like not omens?
austere frost
cau i don thave a single good omen idol ^^
Spam hard fractured prison its gonna take a long time depending of the mods you want
daring lark
crude matrixBOT
daring lark
This are normal idols right like not omens?
Nope, omen idols
Only one omen idol at 6 vitality
austere frost
For me 150 echo and 90 melee void plus any of the good corrupts are insanely hard to farm
austere frost
Only one omen idol at 6 vitality
They are nice helps that shred is not demanded to be max rolls
daring lark
Yeah, I have a good rolled max vitality/melee damage in stash but still need the weaver enchant
austere frost
I also care about the corruption though would take flat,frenzy or haste any of them
If stun corruption,bow,and stun stun avoidance ,stun chance, symbols of hope would not exist the grind would be much better for the player
daring lark
I still need SW with Frenzy...
It's stupid how other class corruptions can roll on class specific idols tbh
wooden monolith
Spam hard fractured prison its gonna take a long time depending of the mods you ...
i do. didn t you uninstall last epoch ?
waxen nymph
It's stupid how other class corruptions can roll on class specific idols tbh
Nah , I need bees
austere frost
i do. didn t you uninstall last epoch ?
I did then came back play 1 hour then go play something else I am crazy at this point 🥲
waxen nymph
On my sentinels idols
wooden monolith
I did then came back play 1 hour then go play something else I am crazy at this ...
welcome back !
wooden monolith
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYEOv75V
you re done with idol farming? what s your next farm?
daring lark
you re done with idol farming? what s your next farm?
Shattered world frenzy/3lp titans/2lp boots/2lp vise
wooden monolith
double exalted ?
daring lark
Yeah, got 2-3 really good double/triple exalted body armor I want to slam
wooden monolith
wondering if playing exulis/rampancy is woth it on warpath, for speed farm
austere frost
Its worth it just dont get brutality with it
wooden monolith
yep, i need my armor
austere frost
With some hp slams you can fix the loss of health
wooden monolith
i have too much health anyway, 6k, i can loose 2K
austere frost
At 100 vitality it's like an extra 15 ms
wooden monolith
what ? not great lol
daring lark
xD
How hard is it to farm 3lp titans?
I can't seem to find 3lp crab ring or 3lp titan
wooden monolith
i got 2 in 2K hours played
austere frost
How hard is it to farm 3lp titans?
Its not the worst just spam a lot of prophecies
wooden monolith
but didn t farm 3lp, just natural drop
austere frost
Well if you need it badly go do nemesis/turtle and prophecy combo you should get somr after some time
daring lark
Hopefully
austere frost
3 lp crab common too just same spam prophecy
wooden monolith
me 2k hours -->2 you 2k5 hours -->12, what s wrong with me ?
austere frost
You remember the crab rings 😅
wooden monolith
yep
daring lark
25 SW corrupted, still no frenzy..wew
austere frost
Unlucky i think its the fault of the idols rng gave it ,rng take it back the luck
austere frost
Would be nice to see a rampancy warpath attempt on uber
daring lark
Unlucky i think its the fault of the idols rng gave it ,rng take it back the luc...
I suppose so
wooden monolith
Would be nice to see a rampancy warpath attempt on uber
tested rampancy offline, with rive, rampancy seems useless if you try to compensate the ehp loss
austere frost
I think its best you dont and just burst it fast likr noobzor does
austere frost
Well at least we got basically void cleave one shot and pretty easy to do with gear so suck it rogue 💪
wooden monolith
hope they don t nerf void cleave
wooden monolith
it sbalanced...until noobzor oneshot UA
austere frost
Which is a shame
Yeah cause of the more multi,but that build aint gonna do maps
Meanwhile rogue just does everything while one shooting,
Maybe brutality gets adjusted like idk this stuff is only good for stuff likr uber in maps is not good at all so kinda balanced
wooden monolith
it s good with around 100 str, you can still leech
austere frost
Its the armor loss the problem the leech can be fixed
wooden monolith
ha
austere frost
Like anomaly fixes it rather easy
austere frost
time eater ?
I think void maw it will fix the negative effect of brutality unless I am wrong
wooden monolith
playing with no armor is pretty bad anyway
austere frost
It makes you consider how good strength is 💪
wooden monolith
madness is good, it s easy to compensete, 1blessing +1 affix
austere frost
madness is good, it s easy to compensete, 1blessing +1 affix
Unless you need the ward then its bad since mages already have like no defensive tools
Lich doesn't care much about the ward so madness is good there
I think we only have left forge strike fo the speed run ubers on Sentinel,judgement too
daring lark
fml
wooden monolith
Unless you need the ward then its bad since mages already have like no defensive...
playing only sentinel, i don t what s good or not for other class
wooden monolith
I think we only have left forge strike fo the speed run ubers on Sentinel,judgem...
you mean noobzor speed kills ?
austere frost
Yeah or if anyone wants to try
daring lark
I ran out of relics to slam
It was the last one...
And ofcourse it hits on the worst one..
I have to go back to idol farming LOL, cause I need +1 more vitality now for 90 kekw
wooden monolith
how much vit do you need ?
daring lark
2 more
alpine sage
@iron basin for smelter's wrath
which is better I wonder
event horizon
or sword catcher
if you go the noobzor's combo
@simple reef is there just no way to sustain for shield bash FG after stacking brutality?
I wonder if last's bear fury is a good source for sustain here
wooden monolith
noobzor, what s your next UA speed kill ?
simple reef
dunno yet
alpine sage
hp? i mean the issue is not sustain the issue is you'll get one shot
well I mean at least SB has a lot of block
so might be sustainable with a lot of regen and str
at least you will place echoes for uber
so need some echoes survial
simple reef
just take off exulis and play a more traditional SB for echoes
alpine sage
ah ok
let's see
if last's bear is sufficient for survival
at least for offline case here
since I dislike replacing equipments
simple reef
can get an amulet with just rampancy if you want to still have some damage from the frenzy belt
i mean
u can try it
alpine sage
I have
but the 13.5 mana cost and insane str stacking is just too good for a minmaxer like me
iron basin
<@82910948683157504> for smelter's wrath
Idk maybe sword catcher? SW wants as much flat on your weapon as it can get. It has plenty of multipliers on the tree and crit caps with just the passive tree
Rampancy feels like asking to get one tapped by everything though
iron basin
Yes
alpine sage
otherwise no way I can survive the channeling time
currently
my problem is that smelter's wrath cannot convert to one element
so half of the dmg are wasted
iron basin
It doesn't matter
You just get flat fire and then strength stack
You get full phys and fire pen value from the passive tree
And whatever sources of shred you get elsewhere. The majority of the damage will be fire
alpine sage
I expect one smelter's wrath will reduce uberroth's hp to 64% in my offline mode
at least if it is to be viable
iron basin
That seems very unlikely
iron basin
I put a build together over a weekend for Perry's build contest in season 2. It definitely has potential but I don't think it's going 1/3+full Ward bar to Uber in a single hit
It's extremely reliant on hitting with full ignite stack bonus so you need something supplying ignites for you while you channel
alpine sage
at least it would have some hopes if I put the brutality and rampancy stacking
iron basin
I don't think you're surviving with rampancy
iron basin
Is this with the frenzy belt?
alpine sage
yes
iron basin
Definitely not happening then. Not with realistic gear
SW has to face tank a lot of mechanics
alpine sage
sadge
iron basin
You're taking increased damage due to the belt, have significantly less armor because of brutality, and don't have the padding from vitality
iron basin
It could do that to normal
alpine sage
well I guess smelter's wrath is still a meme skill after all
iron basin
But it's a much lower bar
You can get an absolutely boatload of flat fire from the buffed Sunforged mace affix. I've wanted to get around to trying it but haven't done so yet
austere frost
If you make it slower then the charging time more modifiers go up to ?
iron basin
Sorta. Some do
The crit ones are like "percent charged" but the damage multipliers are based on actual time
Problem with making it slower is that it becomes significantly harder to land with all of the ignites out
Or with a full stack of forged weapons if you're playing like that
austere frost
I think hit SW could phase uber but dot I know nothing about,maybe a dot effect kinda what frenzy belt does could exist in the game on a unique
iron basin
I still need to try and optimize my hit SW build. I haven't played it since 1.2, and that was just for a quick contest
I did fire dot last season. That was something else alright
You can get a bunch of ignite chance from forged weapons and a T7 Sunforged Hammer reforged
That was my play if I built fire dot again. T7 Sunforged, find a way to make a bunch of forged weapons, blast with axe volley
alpine sage
I think hit SW could phase uber but dot I know nothing about,maybe a dot effect ...
yes hit version could do uber in like, 11 min
the problem is
it cannot even benefit from brutality and rampancy to reduce the time
unless each hit does so much dmg that forces uberroth to phase change
because you need to face tank during charging
guess it's still a meme skill after all
austere frost
it cannot even benefit from brutality and rampancy to reduce the time
Having to use a shield definitely kills some of the damage
alpine sage
Having to use a shield definitely kills some of the damage
question is
can you even survive with a shield?
austere frost
If you could reduce the charge time so it takes like 5 seconds that would be good
alpine sage
If you could reduce the charge time so it takes like 5 seconds that would be goo...
more charge time=more survival needed
rampancy and brutality sucks even more for this build
the very problem with this build is it forces you to face tank
so you cannot benefit from brutality and rampancy
austere frost
If it phases then its fine maybe forgo all defense no shield if it doesn't phase then forget about it
alpine sage
I might try offline to see how it goes
if it does not phase then this is a meme skill
because even in offline no way I can face tank with the insane rampancy
austere frost
At least the forge strike version works
alpine sage
because forge strike you can spam and stun lock it to death
no channeling needed
no face tank during channeling needed
austere frost
Did you try earthquake with the combo on primalist
Could be cool if every mastery as some build like this for this season
alpine sage
nah EQ is too point hungry
tried it but spreading the points between initial slam and aftershock sucks
leaden totem
Lava guard forge guard from debris is ok to attempt Uber with normal gear? Like... Single t7s?
Have almost all equipment. Will try though
austere frost
Lava guard forge guard from debris is ok to attempt Uber with normal gear? Like....
Do you at least have the idols farmed with enchantment?
leaden totem
Running a javeling crit forge guard right now.
austere frost
Cause build needs at least that to be uber reliable
leaden totem
Do you at least have the idols farmed with enchantment?
3 idols with t5 spell
T7 is hard
austere frost
I know that pain
I mean its playable definitely try it
Uber can be killed with worse gear if you are good at it
alpine sage
@austere frost I will try to see if I can survive with last bear shield bash
peak zodiac
Did you try earthquake with the combo on primalist
you mean frenzy belt?
austere frost
Yeah that
peak zodiac
i spreadsheeted a setup should be about 5.65 billion for 1 eq slam but idk if im actually gonna bother playing it
on dummy that is
x3 because you get 3 hits per cast
austere frost
It should work in theory ,the primalist bros need a win this league,since we all doing one shots nowdays or close kills
leaden totem
i spreadsheeted a setup should be about 5.65 billion for 1 eq slam but idk if im...
Wth man. Wat are u talking about
peak zodiac
EQ selfcast
iron basin
If you could reduce the charge time so it takes like 5 seconds that would be goo...
I think it's 3.6 seconds max charge time
yeah people vastly overestimate how long it actually takes to charge smelter's wrath. it's 2s default, tends to be faster with random bits of increased area you pick up through the passive tree or items
it just feels like a century because of the nature of ARPGs
frigid zenith
the very last and worst one hit them
wait you're doing void FG?
alpine sage
nope
it's a meme skill
absolute trash skill
I would be way better if it would grant "more dmg per increased attack speed" instead of increased crit chance
south ledge
I'm testing it every season and always come to the same conclusion
alpine sage
one of the most point hungry skill in this game turns out to be a completely trash skill
wooden monolith
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A83Wbqy8
why not using the jormun belt to get the bonus ?
south ledge
I have that in my inventory, though DMG is not really the issue, but survivability. And brewnasters buckle also has endurance which I would lose with jormun belt.
wooden monolith
you can use null portent then
+red ring instead of oculus or ruin, that s a lot more survivability
south ledge
Well I could but I would lose 16 STR and also need to reallocate idols for resistances
Didn't get red ring so far with 1 LP sadly, if I had I would consider null portent
Got uberroth down to 10% yesterday so it's almost done
wooden monolith
nice
quaint ermine
do multistrike -> smite and bladestorm nodes work together?
wooden monolith
when a skill says "bleed chance from all sources is converted to ignite" does it mean i can't get no bleed anymore ?
waxen nymph
But just for that skill
From all sources refers to bleed chance from skill tree, passives tree, items etc
waxen nymph
do multistrike -> smite and bladestorm nodes work together?
Yes
wooden monolith
But just for that skill
So if i want bleed on target, i need to get it from another skill ? There s no other way ?
waxen nymph
Correct
wooden monolith
Ok, thx
waxen nymph
What skill are you using?
waxen nymph
Yeah, then you will need another skill to apply bleed for you
muted cloud
My forge guard feels weird
waxen nymph
Caltrop FG
Noice
muted cloud
The times are hard during a literal end of times, need to learn how to forge other things than just swords to keep the business going
leaden totem
Farming spell damage idols for lavaguard build is a pain hu
iron basin
My forge guard feels weird
that's like when I was leveling my beastmaster and got the forged weapons corruption on a drop
floating swords I guess are sorta like animals
muted cloud
Give them names, feed them well and I guess you are right
daring lark
All these chests and not a single 3lp Titan
wooden monolith
Yeah, then you will need another skill to apply bleed for you
That skill, can it be healing hands ?
iron basin
if you've got bleed chance and the node that makes healing hands hit, then yeah it should work
wooden monolith
Ha perfect, thx you
twilit jungle
wait you're doing void FG?
how did you miss me talking about void with vengeance this whole time yes i feel like doing it because of ring chain belt combo
Itll be ok probably maybe better than expect but if anything I can just revert back to fire
frigid zenith
how did you miss me talking about void with vengeance this whole time <:omegalul...
I thought it was for something else tbh
twilit jungle
I thought it was for something else tbh <:omegalul:570776988327870475>
SIKE
Its got enough mutlipliers it should in theory be alright
I just like the idea of poking it with void damage 🤪
With a spear & shield 😎
frigid zenith
lots of more multi but feels like the increased damage/pen might suffer
alas not much support from the passive tree
too bad we can't use rampancy/brutality on this build
already stacking str but no mana cost on vengeance
twilit jungle
No you could actually
frigid zenith
and no rampancy belt due to the shield
twilit jungle
yep. everything is basically the sad part 😂
twilit jungle
Ill make a fire verison of phalanx before i start the character
Oh yeah for sure
I mean i saw that 4 build the guy did by simply having the same gear
And just taking it down with ease
frigid zenith
check out the phys version too
it loses out on the more multi of the fire version on vengeance tree, but the armor shred cap is better
and you save on the skillpoints you'd otherwise spend on the fire side
twilit jungle
check out the phys version too
what would even be the phys version? ignoring void, fire conversion?
frigid zenith
yeah sticking with the base
twilit jungle
yeah sticking with the base
yeah thats also a great idea. whats sick about fire is the "perma" frenzy id say
frigid zenith
yeah, but it'd probably be fine since we have frenzy on shield throw too iirc
I don't remember if we can get perma uptime on it or not tho
twilit jungle
I don't remember if we can get perma uptime on it or not tho
4 seconds of frenzy and you can opt in to having it on no cooldown so yeah
twilit jungle
yeah sticking with the base
also youd have to change the build up if you go either fire or phys. mainly belt and ring
Maybe you can keep siphon but i dont see the reason doing it on either version
frigid zenith
yeah, there's probably better options for the ring if not going void
I had the belt on my old planner but it was 1.2 before they nerfed the belt
twilit jungle
I had the belt on my old planner but it was 1.2 before they nerfed the belt <:om...
Yeah pretty much every melee build has it on lastepoch for example that benefits from it
Ocearon is probably the best ring you can slot in
daring lark
Why can't we have an option to swap normal aberroth keys for uber. the RP is so mundane after 10 kills..
twilit jungle
Why can't we have an option to swap normal aberroth keys for uber. the RP is so ...
if you want i can set up my 23 uber runs and you can carry me as well :>
twilit jungle
cof is the same as mg
you can play with others
in cof you have to play in a party if you wanna gift those items dropped
its just that you cant use either faction items. like its not completely SSF, offline mode
frigid zenith
keep in mind some uber loots are host only
waxen nymph
That skill, can it be healing hands ?
Yes
twilit jungle
keep in mind some uber loots are host only
that means gloves and relic as well?
frigid zenith
I'm not sure which ones, but letools lists some items as host only
I would imagine those included as they're the uber-exclusive loot
versed stratus
So I am trying shield throw and I never seem to notice my throws bounce of my ring of sheilds...is there something I am missing?
silk wasp
Did you spec for ricochet on allies
south ledge
that's a lot of STR on one ring damn
austere frost
twilit jungle
I would imagine those included as they're the uber-exclusive loot
i was able to give raven_ gloves at least since he wanted those
also question udgard
just got a 2lp shattered
Getting +4 Symbols grants me decree of flame and symbols of despair
Is that better than crit multi when picking a stat to imbedd on it
That would be +5 fire to void. 75% inc fire to void as well
2nd pair hitting 2lp at nemesis
potential to get more
2lp only sadgeness
frigid zenith
Is that better than crit multi when picking a stat to imbedd on it
hard to say without knowing how much you have of each
twilit jungle
hard to say without knowing how much you have of each
im looking at about 420~ crit multi on amulet, relic
give or take 55 is taken away going the route of symbols
well just assume i wont even get in a t5-6 multi
twilit jungle
with +5 as well
twilit jungle
youre right i read it as 1 only and not 3 after 3 points
so yeah
thatd be a lot more
frigid zenith
yeah that probably wins out
twilit jungle
yeah that probably wins out
Maybe thatll be the saviour you was talking about missing out on some
COPE
daring lark
Any real difference in terms of boss/general loot at 700 or 1k+?
leaden totem
wooden monolith
Well I could but I would lose 16 STR and also need to reallocate idols for resis...
how do you corrupt a reforged item ? i tried to and does not work, reforged turn into something else with random stats
south ledge
how do you corrupt a reforged item ? i tried to and does not work, reforged turn...
that is just one of the outcomes
wooden monolith
corrupting fails 100% i don t get it
south ledge
what do you mean specifically?
wooden monolith
when i try to corrupt any reforged item, the reforged item turns into a sword with random stats
sour rivet
Confluence of Echo shades act as if farthest away from center right?
if you mean Confluence of Oblivion woven echo, it has its own loot table that does not care about distance: https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/echo/confluence_of_oblivion
austere frost
Any real difference in terms of boss/general loot at 700 or 1k+?
There is difference in loot when you go up in corruption, I played at 2k corruption for a while and loot was better than when I was doing 1k that being said its upto your build and how easily it clear and bosses,having 1 timeline very high in corruption is very good for prophecies,nemesis conquered tower
wooden monolith
when i try to corrupt any reforged item, the reforged item turns into a sword wi...
wait neverminds, it works, i just got not lucky
austere frost
It doesn't fail always but has a good chance that it changes to reforged exalt
wooden mountain
Anyone know if the Lightning Bolts from Unbalanced Scale convert to void if you take Fallen from Grace?
brisk tusk
I am trying a shield rush spam build but for some reason I am running out of mana really fast. Is it bugged? Sometimes I can spam as fast as possible and lose no mana and sometimes when I start spamming my mana runs out instantly. Is this a bug or is there something else going on that I am not understanding?
wooden mountain
just tested on my smite char to confirm, they do not convert
thanks
waxen nymph
I am trying a shield rush spam build but for some reason I am running out of man...
Sometimes the refund is a bit too slow and you dont get it because you use SR again
wooden mountain
Not sure how you'd get enough skill points for that to be worth it anyway but IIRC one of those bolts can hit the original target of the smite so could be good for single target if it worked
peak zodiac
I am trying a shield rush spam build but for some reason I am running out of man...
bug with too much attack speed when spamming too fast
brisk tusk
Sometimes the refund is a bit too slow and you dont get it because you use SR ag...
That is quite unfortuante.
I assume this is a known bug
peak zodiac
Not sure how you'd get enough skill points for that to be worth it anyway but II...
ye you need 28 points on selfcast to grab everything so you'd need 32 anyways
peak zodiac
I assume this is a known bug
ye u dont wanna build as on rush for that reason