🔱┃sentinel

[austere frost]

Your time rot gonna hit like a decent wet noodle

[maiden palm]

Never said it would

Its the other way around

Anyway. As I said, I'll give ST a go

[austere frost]

Erasing strike can do similar damage of st but is melee

[maiden palm]

Was thinking ES as well

[austere frost]

But hey the ehg code limiting what erasing strike can do so thats all we can do

[maiden palm]

Yeah, bugger

[waxen nymph]

??

[austere frost]

Cause es has even more multis if the abyssal echoes and vengeance nodes worked

[waxen nymph]

They are bugged ?

[austere frost]

Also can abuse brutality,rampancy

[maiden palm]

I think I noticed that years ago....still not fixed?

[austere frost]

Yeah you cant use the 45 more and the 80 more

You should but they behave probably like supermassive did for black hole

Where it should apply to dots but it doesn't

Now supermassive yes it works

Damm shame we would had noobzor 1 shot uber with time rot maybe

Time for Sentinel to slap some rogues

[trail lynx]

It's only been a year since time rot oneshots

Need to let it marinade

[maiden palm]

Should I go 2h mace to get the more damage multiplier with ES

[austere frost]

Rogue one shots every league when are they gonna marinade

[trail lynx]

I'm still sad about druid being nerfed.

Although the jav timerot was possibly my most fun VK

[austere frost]

The 2 hand sword BBC

[maiden palm]

Old school

[austere frost]

I cant complain erasing its pretty good for this league mechanic

[trail lynx]

I don't get WP time rot

Don't you need to build mana and attack speed where other time rot builds don't?

[maiden palm]

Correct

I built it as a test. It clears very well though

Almost like normal WP

[trail lynx]

Well I guess you're tankier?

(somewhat?)

Or rather, the tankiness is cheaper to gear.

[maiden palm]

Very much so

[trail lynx]

That seems to be more accurate.

[maiden palm]

100% block

[trail lynx]

But that's the thing, ST time rot also clears well

[maiden palm]

Honestly not a bad build. Just not S Tier

[trail lynx]

I mean, at reasonably low corruption

Yeah, but then neither is WP rot

[maiden palm]

Im talking about WP rot

[trail lynx]

I still need to do uber on mine for comparison

[maiden palm]

ST rot would 100% be S tier

[trail lynx]

Agreed, the mults are great

[austere frost]

Its nice they fix their conversion, cause let's be real a lot of conversions kinda are flat in that stuff should be converted but it doesn't

Even before st time rot was already s tier just maxroll never had a guide about it

[maiden palm]

True that

[austere frost]

Can confirm it works on ailments warrior fury but you know not worth investment imo

[trail lynx]

Yeah I was surprised that most of the "big builds" didn't get mentioned as S tier on maxroll last two seasons

[wooden monolith]

A lot of good builds are missing : electrify multistrike (not tiers s but good build), electrify javelin, ignite vengeance (tiers s build),lightning javelin crit...

They ignore mistia s builds

[trail lynx]

Ignore or ignorant of plenty of chinese builds that western people still play

[wooden monolith]

That s why i do not follow guides, i do my own builds and ask advices to others hardcore gamers/veterans

[austere frost]

That's why if they do a similar build i say go follow someone else like mistia

[wooden monolith]

Yep

[austere frost]

The build i followed for grinding uber on abomination was not maxroll since it wasn't minnmaxed enough

The horse guy was much better

Omiting stuff like stomp when stomp breaks uber ai so he does nothing like yeah no ty max roll

[wooden monolith]

Same for me last season, my favorite build was rive vk. I don t know why but maxroll do not know the swordcatcher ^^ so i made my own build, then followed veteran s advices (jellal s advices ^^) and killed ua in 1'30, rive was one of the best sentinel ua killer last season, maxroll rive vk just sucks, and sucks even more this season

[trail lynx]

What do you guys think of volca's time rot ST?

[wooden monolith]

I am a time rot noob, no idea ^^

[austere frost]

Its good ,mistia probably a bit better ,at the end of the day what gear was used cause mistia smoked uber with really meh gear 1t7

I like the 2 hand version no block

[manic cradle]

Yeh, volca’s build is very good, but Mistia’s is S+ tier

Just better.

[scarlet thistle]

Mistia had a cool time rot build last season that used Shield Throw even. It used Hellish Chasm from Void Cleave for a boost.

[trail lynx]

I've converted my autobomber to the build.

Still need to switch from T8 mace to sword.

(for 2h)

I don't have a good abberoth's command to test that setup

[austere frost]

2 second best bosser of the league and should be updated in maxroll soon if umbral wasn't so unbalanced it would be first

[manic cradle]

Yeh, I played that a lot. Very good for mapping - extremely fast and also decent for uber

[scarlet thistle]

I pulled the link out of my WordPad doc the moment they changed the conversion. Not too surprising it's even better now

[trail lynx]

I played that too

[mossy nova]

Wish I could dual-wield renegade's will. That would be hilarious

[autumn star]

Hello people I wanna ask that if +flat mana on amulet or Elemental damage over time is better for Judgement aura paladin

Is there anyway i can see the damage change cause i am not sure if tooltip shows conc aura damage

[slow root]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/forge-strike-forge-guard-guide

What weapon and shield (unique or set) can i use with this build until i can equip plague dragon's spear and bulwark of last abyss ?

[daring lark]

Not a bad end to a farm day

[wooden monolith]

It s pretty insane

[daring lark]

How rare is frenzy on the relic?

[austere frost]

Maybe you get lucky maybe it takes 10 tries

I think I got it around between 5 and 10 shattered worlds corrupted

[daring lark]

Hmm

The problem is the attribute roll and crit roll

If I can do 2~ mins uber aberroth, it'll be much faster

I have 1.3k mana now

I can get the shred node on devouring orb?

[tardy marsh]

You guys put 5 points into Void Adept? I only have 2.

[austere frost]

For me the crit roll and the frenzy roll are better stats all 4 are good even the less damage taken

[daring lark]

Yeah

I'm done with weapon

Need 2lp belt/ring 3lp and better chest

and relic farm

[polar juniper]

Just did my first omen chain in HC. super sketchy. Hard to tell what's actually happening. THere was like an Omen spawning guys before I got to the "breach" omen portal. No 10 second timer. And you can kite out of the portal area, they'll follow.
When I filled up the bar, the 2 Omen bosses from the portal fought me. Then I was able to fight the original Omen guy I saw before the portal.

Was hard to tell what really was happening. What is that?

[daring lark]

Can you imprint uber aberroth echo?

[peak zodiac]

pretty low proc rate but ye

[alpine sage]

@ionic inlet okay

for multistrike smite

that is hard for me tbh

it has insane vitality stacking

so I used rampancy to get insane attack speed (and thus smite proc)

maybe it's better not go for set in that case

[slow root]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/forge-strike-forge-guard-guide

What does Volca mean by the "mana on vengeance hit" chest slam is important for mana sustain ?

I managed to get t7 +13 mana but i still go into negative mana

Does it just mean i can go back to positive mana faster to cast forge strike again ?

[alpine sage]

@ionic inlet hmm

what do you think the enchanted weaver idols should be?

ideally I might reuse the one from fg

which has quite good properties for generic lava burst

1. chance to fork on hit, 2) block effectiveness, 3) crit (weaver), 4) added spell dmg while using a shield and added spell dmg while using 2h axe

I'm not sure if I will need idols related to void and echoes stuff

[austere frost]

You need t7 vengeance on chest if you want to recover mana , you spend your mana on forge strike and you recover it with vengeance

[slow root]

But the build doesn't mention anything about t7 vengeance on chest.

And i'm not sure how that goes into the whole mana sustain topic.

[austere frost]

Have you clicked the gear he uses

Its literally on the chest

BTW if you expect maxroll to explain perfectly everything thats never gonna be the case ,I had to watch video about how to do stuff i was following like abomination build.

For Sentinel unless you are a void knight , and your skill uses a lot of mana you are going to need t7 vengeance slam on chest cause time and faith passive is not enough,faster you go back full faster you do damage,mana regen is not good in this game .

[alpine sage]

@ionic inlet hmm, for offline, fg is still way stronger

[slow root]

The guide has t7 mana on vengeance hit wich i said i already have

[slow root]

Well, as a relatively new player, i don't have much choice besides maxroll guides and asking around here

[alpine sage]

@ionic inlet at least this is the full t7 gear I tried in the above experiment https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/v72tq10r

[austere frost]

And thats fine but last epoch is not thay complicated you can get going ,my point still stands they dont explain every single thing so you will need to ask here if you have doubts

[slow root]

Oh, i agree the game is pretty approachable all things considered. Just some stuff here and there i can't figure out by myself.

[alpine sage]

@ionic inlet hmm, after logging out the game an re-enter it seems that it seems to deal more dmg.

this time equal to fg now

[austere frost]

Did you try palarus vs the exalt

[alpine sage]

no

[austere frost]

You should

[alpine sage]

hmm

but I'm not stacking that much strength

[austere frost]

Doesn't matter right now with your choices its still 37 flat

[alpine sage]

and the forgotten knight gives multiplier

and added skill points

[alpine sage]

but then I have to give up the shield or the forgotten knight sword

[austere frost]

Alternatively you can do forgeguard with void mace

105 spell damage

[alpine sage]

if I go fg I would try fire

literally no reason for void fg

[austere frost]

Same could have been said about vk healing hands

It was the stronger one though

[alpine sage]

but fg has nothing to support void

while I can have insane fire pen by stacking strength

and I have pyre axe

and also the idols for flat spell dmg needs 2h axe and shield

not mace

[austere frost]

1 fire pen per 5 strength its ok

You still wear shield but loose the flat from axe

Anyway stuff outhere I dont have the gear to try anyway

[alpine sage]

anyway

the only thing I need to know is

it is as strong as fg

not stronger or weaker

I wonder if I should replace symbols with anomaly

[austere frost]

If you are doing vk you should use both

[alpine sage]

nah

not enough space for both

at least for shield throw

unless you sacrifice a traversal skill

hmm

for killing uberroth

fg actually does better than vk

for shield throw

so I guess I will stick with fg

[obsidian tide]

Any fellow manifest armor enjoyer? I've been working on this bleed build and its not yet optimized but currently sitting over 10mil dps only with manifest armor. Would appreciate any constructive feedback or discussion on the build! This is the planner when summoning https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/g42xdp0r. The summon does snapshot so its quite useful to switch to monument of protection+shield with minion affixes gear after summoning.

[trail lynx]

Checking mistia's and vulca's ST builds. Where are the defensive layers from primarily? Is it just leech and armor?

[quaint hearth]

not too bad

[manic cradle]

Misitias has a shield

that makes a Huuuge difference

[fluid sparrow]

Got a quick question
Does this mean there is A means of conversion to void? If so... i can't seem to find it, it's not in the tree?
Or is this purely about the disintegrating aura?

[dry cove]

Dis you know Vengelance is bugged? Some nodes with dmg multi for hits work for DoTs and Vengelance unique spear with general dmg multi works only with hits.
EHG please fix only text not the dmg itself. Veng dmg even now isn't OP at all.

[fresh mango]

Finally managed to get 90+ vit on my VK

It cost me two arms and a leg, so now i spin on one leg while the axe is strapped to my neck

[frigid zenith]

sounds badass

[trail lynx]

Does it? I never play with shields, never really got an intuition for how strong block is

[daring lark]

I need Leonine helms, not axes...

[trail lynx]

Don't worry, it's just a 766 😄

Imprints this season have been rather... tame.

I'm so glad I rolled my chars MG this time

[waxen nymph]

Dis Aura

[trail lynx]

Approaching 50k time rot now, feels goooood

[fluid sparrow]

Probably asked this before but... I can't find it anymore...
Imagine the void conversion on shield throw, it says ignite will be converted to time rot.
Take the 100% (4 pointer) ignite chance bottom left, and then Rot Grip.
Rot grip applies to that ignite (which is converted to time rot) from within the tree? Or only global stats?

Because some people take it, others don't and I have no clue who is right then... :D

(Can't test it yet either as I am still looking for the affix)

[trail lynx]

The ignite doesn't happen.

It's just the stats that get converted.

[fluid sparrow]

Huh?

What do you mean?

[trail lynx]

When you say rot grip applies to that ignite, it doesn't. That ignite doesn't happen.

[fluid sparrow]

But i mean when it is converted

aaaah

I see waht you mean

It's not ignite chance => time rot chance

it's the effect TO

ok ok me dum dum, thx!

[trail lynx]

yeah

[fluid sparrow]

It's bleed chance that gets converted

bleed chance => time rot chance
Phys shred => void shred
fire dmg => void dmg
Effects to ignite => effects to time rot (like the ignite duration)

[trail lynx]

Now I have no idea how it affects burning crusade

[fluid sparrow]

I suppose only ignite duration => time rot duration

cuz that is the only effect

[trail lynx]

For every stat where wording is ambiguous I just assume the devs will screw it up and rely on player testing instead.

[fluid sparrow]

haha

I must admit, it is confusing with the whole bleed (phys), phys shred, then sudden change to fire dmg and effect to ignite.

Hence I was probably confused as well

like phys shred gets converted, but phys penetration does not ... kinda cross eyed

[trail lynx]

The thing is, Rot Grip is worded as "more dmg per 1% global Time rot chance with void skills"

Which seems to be verbatim-wording of the gear stat prefix

[fluid sparrow]

yeah

[trail lynx]

So I have no idea whether a phys skill that has a fire node that is converted to void and has its ignite count as time rot registers for rot grip

And the rot grip stats aren't visible ingame, so it's hard to say.

[fluid sparrow]

But does a "slow with void skills" mod even exit as well? Can't remember

[trail lynx]

Yes

Well, it's chance to slow on hit

[fluid sparrow]

Oh

[trail lynx]

Alright, fair enough.

[fluid sparrow]

haha :D

[trail lynx]

Let's assume it works then

[fluid sparrow]

So then slow chance within a tree would affect it as well?

[trail lynx]

That would make burning crusade 100% extra scaling on rot grip?

[fluid sparrow]

(if the skill is void)

No, cuz ignite chance is not converted as you said

But this ... would? :P although only 100% if you take all nodes

[trail lynx]

I mean the time rot chance would still be active.

On the conversion

[frigid zenith]

even if it was converted, it wouldn't be a global chance no?

it's just for that skill

[trail lynx]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

So time rot counts "global timerot/slow from gear/passives"

But doesn't count "local timerot/slow from skill tree?"

That sounds like something mistia would've research as far back as S2

But I only have his chinese translated builds so I have no idea whether it's even mathed out intentionally

[fluid sparrow]

hehe

yeah i also was looking at that maxroll one to get ideas, and you see this

why doesn't he take the 50% block chance node

[trail lynx]

I mean that's obvious, the node states hit dmg

Not skill dmg

[fluid sparrow]

I am sure dmg modifiers apply to the ailment applied BY the skill ...

[trail lynx]

So it won't scale time rot

[fluid sparrow]

oh

did i missread?

lol

I am so dumb

:')

reading is difficult

[wooden mountain]

do you know if dis aura makes hammer throw into a void skill for the purposes of Time Rot Chance With Void Skills ?
I doubt the aura would apply it but the hammers themselves should

[trail lynx]

I'm online if you want to look at the build at 1500c @fluid sparrow

[frigid zenith]

it would count if a skill gave you global chance

but most skills just give you a local chance with that skill

global is the chance tied to your character

[trail lynx]

But a skill converting the "global ignite" to time rot for this skill is still "global", right?

[frigid zenith]

it should

[trail lynx]

It's pretty rad at 1500c though, have to say.

Even without a shield

Though with 2.2k hp I'm rather paper

[wooden mountain]

I don't think converted ailments work for Witchfire (acolyte ailment that also scales damage with global ailment chances for ignite & damned)

Eg iirc maehlin's hubris won't make global bleed chance count as global ignite chance for the purposes of scaling witchfire damage

[fluid sparrow]

Can't atm, need to feed myself before I starve :D then I gtg touch grass (semi-sadly) but thx for thinking with either way! (just wanted to do some building before food.

[frigid zenith]

which skill were we talking about again? I think I got lost

[trail lynx]

Shield Throw to void

(conversion comes from gear affix)

[frigid zenith]

if we're talking about burning crusade, it's not a global ignite chance

it would have to be something that shows on the character sheet

[trail lynx]

But the conversion also doesn't show on char sheet

So I guess it just doesn't get affected?

[frigid zenith]

it wouldn't show because it's not global

[wooden mountain]

conversions that show on the char sheet don't work for witchfire damage afaik, idk why rot grip would be different

[frigid zenith]

it's just chance to ignite with lavaburst/shield throw

[frigid zenith]

tbh I would say that it should've worked based on the wording, and that would've been a bug with witchfire isntead

oh hold on, rot grip isn't on global time rot chance

it's on global time rot chance on void skills

[wooden mountain]

it counts global time rot too

[frigid zenith]

huh

then it should count then

oh well, guess we would only know via testing

but in this case, burning crusade isn't global at all so it should not count

[trail lynx]

I guess

I really wish we'd have more of the stat internals exposed.

Ok, back to being paper. How much dmg does block block when it blocks?

[silk wasp]

Depends on your Block effectiveness

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/block

[muted cloud]

Just to clarify, this boosts the ailments and Lunge's hit, not only the hit, right?

[normal cedar]

Is this a break point?

Also anyone playing reflect Paladin like me? I wanna know if I can incorprate a taunt of some kind. I was hoping to do more of a support build but honestly can clear 1k+c easily

[fresh mango]

Devouring orb has a node that gives you 10% more global void damage and mana regen, doubled if you have 90+ Vit

[normal cedar]

Whats your health like?

[fresh mango]

4.9 atm

[normal cedar]

geez jealous

whats the tooltip dps for warpath or are u playing somethig diff

[fresh mango]

Depends, 120 in town without buffs

[manic cradle]

Shield effectively doubles your health pool. From my experiene with Sentinel, if a build can do 1k corruption without a shield, usually with a shield it can do 2k

obviously it depends on a build and if a build offscreens everything, it does not matter

[muted cloud]

Im doing a blind-build for time rot, I know Shield Throw is pretty nuts for it, but I dont wanna go that route, at least for now 😄 so far lv58, going for big Erasing Strike slams, Lunge and Anomaly; Forgotten Knight sword+amulet and Weaver's Gift, but later I wanna try out Paranoia+Stymied, Atrophy and Aberroth's command... so for I see ticks between 25-60k so I hope it keeps on going well

[trail lynx]

I can barely do 1.5k with 2H now

If I drop the extra stats and go 1h for dmg scalers, I don't think I'm going to have a smooth ride for 3000c

[daring lark]

Is uber aberroth 100% drop from Aberroth?

[true raptor]

Indeed it is

[tardy marsh]

Damn can I see your planner?

Is there an easy way to calculate what’s a better affix for my current gearset, mana or % mana?

[frigid zenith]

import it to letools then plug in the affix

[fresh mango]

Doesn't seem to be super accurate, but it's close enough i guess lol https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BakbPXP1

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,818, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,381.81, Regen: 17.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 54 Str / 19 Dex / 12 Int / 20 Att / 89 Vit
▸ Resistances: 113% / 98% / 112% / 89% / 124% / 142% / 155%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 1,576
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (86)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,074)

Used skills:

Warpath / Devouring Orb / Anomaly / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes

[steel stirrup]

Bleed or crit hammerdin for endgame ?

[pseudo parcel]

both are good, I prefer bleed

You can play it from the moment you unlock hammer all the way to level 100 and it's easy go gear

[atomic hare]

I like crit for hc, can delete mobs off screen. But bleed was fun until i got the primal cadence weapon

[alpine sage]

bleed

tankier

and way better dmg ceiling

[pseudo parcel]

Yeah bleed gets 100% block and giga leech

[steel stirrup]

But do I need Carrion of creation for bleed ?

[pseudo parcel]

You don't need it but it's your BiS

The moment you have it LP1 you'll swap blessings and get giga damage

if you're SAF just focus on your other slots

by the time you're nearing full LP1 or close to it you'll likely have a pair or two

[shrewd yoke]

Does storm champion's chance to cast smite on throwing hit share a cooldown with the adorned idol mod that does the same thing?

[autumn star]

Anyone playing judgement aura paladin? i have a question

[wooden mountain]

almost certain it's the same effect

[sharp mural]

hello! I can do 1000 corruption easily but I'm getting trashed by uber aberroth. I see other erasing strike void knights doing much more damage than me, and I don't know where the damage difference comes from. can y'all take a look at my character?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/2th/character/piss_man

[austere frost]

Better gear ,more mana better roll weapon , ,better idols ,1 lp corrupt om weapon or a 2 lp slam weapon

[sharp mural]

better idols
just better rolls for my existing idols, or different stats?
1 lp corrupt om weapon or a 2 lp slam weapon
what?

[austere frost]

You need 150 idols with melee void ,then grt weaver affix you want,then keep them like that or hope for melee flat corruption

[maiden thistle]

your idols do kinda stink for dmg

[austere frost]

What many people do is they get 1 lp weapon they slam t7 then corrupt so you can go that route or try for a 2t7 worldsplitter slam

[sharp mural]

that's what I did, t7 flat added void -> corrupt into t3 multi

do it again and hope for higher multi?

[austere frost]

Sub 1k mana is not good for erasing strike need more

[sharp mural]

getting mana on gloves will help, I just don't have uber aberroth gloves yet

[austere frost]

I mean your weapon is not max rolled, I would max roll weapon as possible i can get then slam t7 ,then corrupt and hope you get something good

[maiden thistle]

why are you using nest as your relic?

[austere frost]

Also try getting some slams with vitality on your character like in boots good hp plus more damage

Anchor oblivion is a great relic before uber relic ,it allows you to get t8 mana on helmet

[sharp mural]

the roll I have is not great, but it's 43% more idol*

is anchor really better than that?

[maiden thistle]

alot of dmg coming from anchor

[sharp mural]

like that works out to 300% increased echo damage and good boost to suffix mods as well with perfect idols

[austere frost]

Caps endurance 100 void increase and 14 strength no

[maiden thistle]

idols i think melee void damage is more worth. thats %300 ish damage you're leaving out. and we can get ornates with melee void and echo dmg if you really wanted it

[sharp mural]

I have 1 echo damage / melee void damage idol, I need to get weaver crit on it and then corrupt

[maiden thistle]

wait can you put weaver will on something w/o having to reforge it?

idols^

[sharp mural]

yea, it's a choice to either enchant or reforge idols

[maiden thistle]

emchanting can put weaver will on it?

damn

shows how much i know

[sharp mural]

so the process is

• find an idol you like
• repeatedly enchant it until you have the enchant you want
• corrupt and pray
• cry

[maiden thistle]

well im doing prophecys and just pushing corrupt. tryna run? im around 1200 rn

[peak zodiac]

i mean tbh you don’t need enchants or even bis corrupted affixes at all for uber my ES was doing uber in ~3 mins none of my idols were enchanted i just got a shit ton from prophecies and used the corruption that makes them max rolled

[sharp mural]

can you link your character?

[south ledge]

first exulis drop, not bad 😄

[waxen nymph]

I am fishing for a brutality madness one

Sweet rolls

[manic cradle]

This is beyond great

I dropped 80 Exulis. Only 2 had T6+ affixes

I’d love exactly your Exulis on my Xylem Runemaster :p

[south ledge]

just tried brutality on my druid. It's quite the dps increase, but went from 10k armor to 3k

[waxen nymph]

Yeah, I am scared of that too

[south ledge]

actually not sustainable

[waxen nymph]

I might use it to try Uber

[south ledge]

ye might be good for that

[waxen nymph]

I can't tank most of its attack anyway

What's your druid?

[south ledge]

swipe after shock werebear

I compared it 1:1 with eq BM and yeah... swipe aftershock did at max 30% of the dps

same setup I ran with most identical items also on forgeguard multistrike

EQ BM had the highest dps

[south ledge]

think I will test this on my spellblade 👀

[glacial sky]

What’s beastlier void knight warpath or erasing strike build? I’m playing erasing strike but feel like I’m always low on mana because my devouring orbs are always proccing :/

[twilit jungle]

By god!

used a corrupt to reroll its stats n got max pog

wondering if i should go for 3lp

What are the 2 best stats to go with on a shield with the first being block chance as the obvious one?

block effectiveness?

[slow root]

Does warpath work with attack speed ?

[peak zodiac]

sorry, i play a few different builds with my VK and right now i don't have my ES gear equipped. i'll send a link later today

[peak zodiac]

yes

[craggy cairn]

Is there any viable build with the Phalanx? 🤔https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwjMHYEYg

Vengeance Javelin Combo seems really strong through Riposte, with Bleeding effect on Vengeance and Javelin and maybe going for Forge Guard

[quaint hearth]

It attacks with 2x rate
So its kinda double great for you

[iron basin]

block chance and damage-taken-on-block

replied to the wrong line, but those two stats are usually the best. block effectiveness is also very good

dtob is a pretty rare affix though. if you haven't been farming out exalt shields its possible you won't even have the shard

[wooden monolith]

What build ?

[twilit jungle]

this? apparently i got plenty

good to know i missed that one despite looking at it earlier

[iron basin]

yeah that one

[twilit jungle]

i was gonna go the angle of mountain

[iron basin]

it's a suffix

[twilit jungle]

but the primalist shield is much better thus is endurance bad

+4 to str skills outweighs mountain tbh with that

2nd 3lp phalanx drop nice

[austere frost]

Usually block chance,block effectiveness,third stat depends of the build less damage taken is usually stronger as a third stat t5 affix

[twilit jungle]

gotchu. Gonna be Phalanx build so rings will already have 2x 4% block xxx effectiveness so maybe going the angle of reduced damage is better?

[austere frost]

With double t7 on rings then yes it becomes better by like a 3%

[polar juniper]

Why is Judgement Paladin guide using Sunwreath. It's literally only like ~70% increased Fire Dmg. Am I missing something?

2LP is reasonable. But 3LP, unless playing on MG, is impractical 1:119

[alpine sage]

but what could a dot build benefit from exulis?

[peak zodiac]

3lp sunwreath is 1/69 on one of the most common rings, spend 100k favor and you get like 10 of them lmao. low lpl, good base and 125% increased damage (which is the same as a t7 inc% roll) is all you need

[glacial sky]

What’s the best burst VK build? I’m currently playing erasing strike and just wondering if there’s something with more burst and more sustain (less mana problems).

[polar juniper]

ah. interesting. Unique ring prophecies?

[peak zodiac]

ye 3lp is super easy to get with ring prophecies. 4lp is a bit harder but even then not so bad

[polar juniper]

It just feels like Health, Block chance + Effectiveness, Ele Dmg Over time, and Healing Effectiveness would be better

im playing on HC tho..so

[peak zodiac]

i mean for sure you want a t1 block if you’re using rahyeh shield to cap, and then ele dot healing effect

health would certainly be nice to have as a 4th affix but completely unnecessary

[glacial sky]

How do you guys farm shattered chains belt?

[peak zodiac]

confluence of oblivion

[glacial sky]

I gotcha okay. I’m only lvl 7 in woven faction.. how do I best power lvl it to 10 so I can buy confluence?

[peak zodiac]

i mean just take the weaver tree node where shades can drop it and kill shades till u get one then imprint it

[glacial sky]

Hmm what is this node called if you recall?

[peak zodiac]

i don’t sorry and not at pc atm but it’s in the bottom left

[glacial sky]

What is a good offensive oriented unique belt i can wear until I get shattered chains, which might take a bit

[raven lynx]

hi pros, is there any 1 button build like warpath when u just walk around and things die?

[alpine sage]

reflect

paladin or shaman are both fine

[raven lynx]

but reflect got a nerfed isnt it, still strong? also i want a build that can do uber aswell

[peak zodiac]

not exactly the best uber farmer anymore

if not warpath then judgement aura probably the most lazy build on sentinel thats really strong

[raven lynx]

judgement got no stun immunity, i keep hearing the annoying clink clink sound lol

[proper viper]

for warpath, is maxroll's build the standard, or are there others worth looking at?

[raven lynx]

so vk autobomber just comes to mind, do you guys know any good build about it?

[iron basin]

it's on the bottom left side of the tree. it makes shades and finished tombs have a chance to drop it

[alpine sage]

why do you care about stun immunity?

[raven lynx]

uhm i just dont like the sound when being stunned thats all, just a me problem 👀

[austere frost]

Well you are gonna get stunned no matter what unless you play warpath,that being said you can play erasing strike for one button huge aoe,smite devouring for your autobomber

[iron basin]

siege breaker is so much fun with sigeon's now that we have fork idols

[raven lynx]

thank you, ill try the smite version

[thorny spoke]

hey guys, how's brutality on judgment paladin?

is the armor loss manageable and worth the damage gain? i guess thats a complicated question lol

i feel like trading survivability for damage is a trade judgment paladins might want to make

[slow root]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QeZjqnKB

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 3: Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (10) / Paladin (68)

General:

▸ Health: 5,338, Regen: 56/s
▸ Mana: 164.31, Regen: 12.96/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 136 Str / 11 Dex / 23 Int / 16 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 105% / 103% / 138% / 98% / 104% / 106% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 1,302
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (60)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 79% (11,781)

Used skills:

Warpath / Smite / Holy Aura / Javelin / Symbols of Hope

[slow root]

Can i kind soul please help a newbie with uniques suggestions for the helm/amulet/chest/gloves/boots slots ?

I really wanna play this build

[wooden monolith]

Helm you want leonine for reduced crit damages, chest : the one on planner

I have played that build in 1.2, was not great (low damages)

[alpine sage]

Very good tbh

You dont even stack many strength with that build

[alpine sage]

So armor loss is not that much. Also the build is isanely tanky with 2 red rings, shattered worlds and vengeance already

[iron basin]

😠

[thorny spoke]

yeah i'm seeing that now, i hit it on my blossom. armor formula tbh is a little bit too disadvantageous.

i have two blossoms, this and a max roll corrupt.

with elem dot

so, if i ever feel desperate for that armor back, i can equip the other

anyway, thanks for the response! glad i got this then

[alpine sage]

I mean if you have good increased armor affixes like that you dont actually need strength

This is an attunement stacking build

You dont have many strength to begin with

But every bit of dmg will help

[subtle estuary]

Is this any good?

[raven lynx]

use whatever u can find at early level

[proper viper]

any better ways to get channel cost shards? i have none.

[iron basin]

rift beasts are a good way to get class specific shards

[slow root]

https://youtu.be/OXGZn4r9Z1U?si=2RWL6lDrSO9HQKoH

I saw it did uber in 3min so i assumed it was viable

Are there no viable ways to do warpath smite ?

[waxen nymph]

Shatter Totem Werebear

[alpine sage]

it's viable but people just want to play void warpath for warpath or void multistrike smite for triggering smite. Compared to those two then warpath smite is really not great.

and in this path we even have spirit xylem for smite paladin

[alpine sage]

but does the aftershock benefit from brutality?

since I don't lose any mana when using aftershock proc

because if yes then goodbye my final pet BM slot

it's player dmg BM time

and also

EQ BM is better with fire

because of this https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAcCYGZyA

and throne of ambition

[slow root]

Yeah, i'd go for cast smite paladin but i'm a controller player. So, i'm gonna have aiming issues and it's not gonna be fun.

Any cool paladin builds besides cast smite and judgement ?

[alpine sage]

multistrike paladin (melee)

bleed hammerdin

crit hammerdin too. But bleed has higher dmg ceiling and more tanky

However bleed is more affix hungry

crit needs little affix scaling so gear is more budget

also lightning javelin paladin

feels like you are raining holy wrath from the sky like smite

but since you have aiming issue then multistrike might be the best

[alpine sage]

also, I don't remember multistrike cost mana

[south ledge]

I compared them without brutality

[alpine sage]

ah ok

does your multistrike fg have shield?

because if it has shield then it sucks

[south ledge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJWM7pEq

[crude matrix]

Druid, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (15) / Shaman (15) / Druid (56)

General:

▸ Health: 3,215, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 328.15, Regen: 14.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 20/s
▸ Attributes: 172 Str / 23 Dex / 23 Int / 71 Att / 31 Vit
▸ Resistances: 80% / 62% / 92% / 74% / 67% / 98% / 73%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 940
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (92)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,270)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 43%

Used skills:

Swipe / Earthquake / Maelstrom / Werebear Form / Warcry

[south ledge]

I used these weapons

The gavel doubling the swords stats is crazy good

I played with the EQ cool down node

And last hit did 37m crits at dummy in the high health threshold

So almost 100m DMG per eq cast

[alpine sage]

hmm

I would rather convert eq to fire

and use throne of ambition

I'm not sure if the weapon above is better than dual hakar

maybe yes

since I can replace the brewmaster's belt with set belt

and with that much brutality how do you even leech?

ah wait

@south ledge I would rather go for fang belt I think

by going fang belt and stacking 120+ rampancy and using shattered world I could have 67% more dmg from frenzy alone

and together with str stacking from brutality

I get huge multiplier

I think it's better than primodial mace

since I have dual hakar weapon already

which gives you 44% pen and flat fire melee dmg

[slow root]

Do you happen to have a planner for that ?

[alpine sage]

@slow root Not mine but from the same guy who killed uberroth with warpath smite https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKkWMN0A

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 3: Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (25) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (63)

General:

▸ Health: 4,907, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 182.91, Regen: 10.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 7 Dex / 7 Int / 16 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 180% / 85% / 160% / 74% / 76% / 81% / 73%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 1,349
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 56% (3,804)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 86%

Used skills:

Multistrike / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Shield Throw / Holy Aura

[alpine sage]

NEVER play multistrike with a shield if you go forgeguard

multistrike is playable as both paladin and forge guard but for forge guard you need to stack strength to make it good

and using shield in multistrike for forge guard is the worst idea one could think of. Why? Because if paladin could do fine without a shield and even kill uberroth then why does forge guard need a shield which make you deal less dmg and attack speed?

In other words I don't recommend maxroll's forge guard version

it's trash

[slow root]

@alpine sage any placeholders for ubby gloves and relic ?

[alpine sage]

swaddling of the erased I think

[alpine sage]

for relic, maybe twisted heart

[slow root]

These the best swaddlings i have

[alpine sage]

switch to forge guard if you have crit chance problem

that swaddling is not bad

you could have some leech

[slow root]

So, never run a shield. What's the pros and cons of paladin vs FG multistrike ?

[alpine sage]

FG needs more strength to make it good (due to the 1 pen per 5 strength node)

Otherwise I don't see it better than paladin

[austere frost]

@wooden monolith you should check noobzor rive kill 34 seconds ,could be maybe even faster with some gear upgrades,you gotta go MG for idols man like its gonna take like no kidding weeks months farming this in a degenerate matter as cof

[alpine sage]

ah also sry. The crit chance of FG node is not FG exclusive

so you don't have any crit chance with both

[alpine sage]

:))) here we go with the meme combo again

[austere frost]

https://youtu.be/764Fz0-rwDU?si=0nsgjHXia_JAnRFn

[alpine sage]

btw does rive even have mana cost?

[austere frost]

Brutality doesn't do anything do in this case

[alpine sage]

so your dmg is from the increased frenzy effectiveness alone?

[austere frost]

Yeah pretty much

[alpine sage]

okay

how about EQ?

with the insane amount of brutality and rampancy can it one shot uberroth?

and I wonder if aftershock triggered by melee attacks is affected by brutality

[craggy cairn]

Again asking: Is there any viable build with the Phalanx? 🤔https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAwjMHYEYg

Vengeance Javelin Combo seems really strong through Riposte, with Bleeding effect on Vengeance and Javelin and maybe going for Forge Guard.

[alpine sage]

the problem is

too many things to scale with it

you go face of the mountain

scale endurance for block chance

scale block chance and block effectiveness with ring and gloves

scale physical res for bleed pen

scale str also for phy pen from fg tree

it's hard to minmax for too many scaling like that

[manic cradle]

It’s attunement stacking build, also mana regen and cd recovery

[frigid zenith]

the javelin feels ass because you have to wait to get hit

maybe it'll feel good for omens nowadays 🤔

[craggy cairn]

hmmm ok. sounded like a neat spear, but ok I guess.
what are some off meta builds you all could recommend? 😅 I'm currently still in the early mono phase with Allie's Orb Autobomber Build

[trail lynx]

@silk mica Love the build post-mortem video format, ty

[wooden mountain]

I have absolutely no doubt that you can make vengeance/javelin do good damage with Phalanx but the problem is the build is utterly bereft of QoL

the responsiveness of the retaliatory javelins (with siege barrage obviously) is just painfully slow

you think you're gonna be zooming hitting with vengeance every other second or so and javelins are going to rain from the sky clearing the screen but actually you end up just waiting for javelins to fall

and when they fall they're rarely targeted as you'd prefer

[craggy cairn]

ok, that's sad 🙁

[wooden mountain]

Give it a go by all means, if you can live with how it plays in practice it's a really cool build

You could use smite on throwing hit idols with it too

[pulsar loom]

u can go for Shield throw in addition, so 100% block given 35% shield throw retail and when hit javelins on top. Played it in S2(?) and had rly fun

[craggy cairn]

hmmm 🤔 alright, have to think about it

[craggy cairn]

I think, I have some gear with doing smites too 🤔

[wooden mountain]

that conflicts with using phalanx IIRC, it's on 2h spear and can't be slammed on a Phalanx

oh if you mean the belt then that works fine

[craggy cairn]

I think it's the belt

but let me check xD

(I've 5 tabs of uniq+leg...will take some time)

[wooden mountain]

just use the search function

if you type smite it'll show up

[craggy cairn]

ah ok

[wooden mountain]

or orian

the belt is called orian's descent

[craggy cairn]

what's with devotion amulet? I've the belt two times

and a lot of swords with smite xD

[pulsar loom]

works fine, just not with phalanx

[wooden mountain]

devotion amulet is great for self cast smite

stack amulet with xylem and you get tons of mana

1 flat damage per 5 missing mana is an insanely good rate

Xylem adds 3-6 mana per attunement so you're getting 4% increased and 1-1.6 flat per attunement

[craggy cairn]

Alright, then I'll go with phalanx and the belt. what else could add to that build? is there a set worth for it? 🤔 (sorry for asking all these dumb questions, I'm really not that deep into LE yet)

[frigid zenith]

keep in mind the belt has awful proc limit unless you want to keep chuggin potions

[craggy cairn]

Ok, then I'll browse through my gear to look for other stuff, that could work with it

[south ledge]

I started with the fang belt, and then transitioned to the mace + sword combo. And yeah I could even use a set belt for +20% damage, but I prefered survivability in the meantime.
Also I don't have access to SW yet since I play mostly ssf

[alpine sage]

but for dps I think fang belt is better

you have insane attack speed

and more dmg buff by just stacking rampancy alone

at least for spam spells

but I dont think eq should be slammed

you will have serious mana issue

the combo rampancy+brutality is too OP

your offhand could be a lot of things

like eye of reen which gives insane crit multiplier too

[wooden monolith]

I had 1t7 gear, dps was not great but it s viable. I you want to have fun with this build go for it

[south ledge]

soudns good in theory, but right now the brutality conversion feels awful for echos. Might be good for a uberroth build though

[south ledge]

dps was a lot worse for me when I tested

but that is heavily depending on the available gears

6.57m dps on the eq tooltip, with 7 panther, 15 berserk and 10 maelstrom stacks

and only at 57% crit right now which is pretty low

given this sword even has fire pen, i'm tempted to try that 😄

[craggy cairn]

What about using Onslaught of Cerata shield with the spear? and shield throw?

[south ledge]

dps was pretty solid on multistrike too, but yeah sadly dual wield FG is not as tanky as BM

[wooden mountain]

you could make it work, idk if it's the best choice but probably worth trying

you're gonna be using vengeance anyway tho so that proc isn't worth much

there's no phalanx build without directly using vengeance imo

capping block would be incredibly easy with that shield I guess

[alpine sage]

how many brutality and rampancy did you stack?

[fresh mango]

I finally found the breakpoint in how much mana i need for spinning lol, if i replace my double mana minor idol, it sometimes stops
Currently at 1189, lowered from ~1500 i had before patch
Replaced some items (especially mana gloves for double AS ones), changed a few nodes in passive tree (didn't need that much resists and leech) and uber is dying super quickly now. Tooltip on WP went up from 250 to 400

[south ledge]

I tested without these conversions, since they are destroying my survivability

[alpine sage]

oh ok

[south ledge]

dps might be crazy

but 0 ehp

.D

[alpine sage]

Fang belt needs these conversion to work

so that's why I said dmg might be better

[frigid zenith]

fang belt without conversion is defanged 😄

[alpine sage]

the rampancy bonus is insane for spam melee with mana

you have insane increased attack speed

have >75% more dmg if you have 150+ vitality and 100+ strength from frenzy effectiveness alone

and multiplier from brutality too

but well you have brutality already at least

[south ledge]

yeah but 1k armor....

[alpine sage]

and also

without mace

[south ledge]

I will use this instead for now

[alpine sage]

you can go firestarter torch

for 48% more fire dmg

the rampancy bonus and fire starter bonus is of course more than the gears you are using

but that will require melee fire affix to "flood" any other melee implicits and unique mofifiers

[wooden monolith]

I don t have a single good omen idol, didn t play a lot though. Is noobzor mg ?

[quaint hearth]

.

[alpine sage]

well tbh

[austere frost]

He is mg this season yes,getting those idols is very bad in cof

[alpine sage]

the rampancy and brutality combo is insane

[wooden monolith]

So 1k2 mana is the way to go on warpath ? Can you link your planner plz ?

[fresh mango]

yep, seems that 1.2k is exactly the way, even with lowest T8 roll on helmet (corrupted to min values lol) https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QkY5P60D

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,505, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,188.61, Regen: 18.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 59 Str / 29 Dex / 16 Int / 24 Att / 99 Vit
▸ Resistances: 107% / 75% / 106% / 80% / 87% / 134% / 165%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 1,495
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (144)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,383)

Used skills:

Warpath / Devouring Orb / Anomaly / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes

[wooden monolith]

Thx you

You dont go polygram on symbol, why ? How did you get thoses omen idols ? You re mg ?

[austere frost]

Maxroll doesn't do polygram thats why

Bad take though

[fresh mango]

I lose about 150 end threshold, 76% increased mana regen and gain 25 increased damage if i go polygram, not really worth it is it

[waxen nymph]

You also get 6 flat and another 25%'Inc Dmg

[fresh mango]

I tried to play with polygram, it didn't seem quite right

[fresh mango]

True, forgot about some bonuses, but still

[wooden monolith]

Are you mg ? Is there a good way to farm thoses omen idols ?

[fresh mango]

Yeah mg, just do veil/prison

[austere frost]

If you dont go mg there isn't spend your entire season only doing the omen veil/fractured prison since it self sustains you finish them all up you but more you put them down and you finish them ,rinse and repeat after a long time you will get one decent

I did like 150 each and this is best I got i would have prefer the melee void affix

Too long range affixes ,meanwhile umbral only needs to roll from 4 to 8 % like ty game

[fresh mango]

Is that a Legion?

[austere frost]

Yes i is

[fresh mango]

I'm looking at one right now myself lmao

[austere frost]

5070 ti 32 go of ram works much better than the last one I had

[fresh mango]

Must be nice, i'm still at 4070 32

[austere frost]

I was using an amd before and never again man ,doesn't matter if hardware is strong too many annoying stuff like games using your not discrete video card instead of the actual one

[fresh mango]

Right, do you use toolkit?

LLT let's you do all kinds of things to your Legion lmao

[wooden monolith]

Omg, i can t get 2t7 gear and get omen idols i want (i am cof), the game realy wants me to play something else !

I can t play any game though, my computer died 2 day ago

[austere frost]

I unistalled again lmao, ?I was like ok I am gonna grind idols for my void knight ,get some exulis too,like nah too boring you literally ain't incentivized to do maps since you get more fragments to buy more omen veils and get more fractured prison boss by just finishing your echoes and buy and repeat

Too damm boring almost no loot,exalts 0,and most stuff you pick has stun chance or useless mods

[alpine sage]

Go grim dawn

Best arpg game there

[austere frost]

And unclaimed troves spam is considered degenerate like ahem this is worse by a mile and more degenerate activity

[fresh mango]

Gotta grind to get gucci items, even in MG, they sell for unreasonable prices

[alpine sage]

It is also easier to playtest the top builds there

Since people post their save files for playtesting purposes too

[austere frost]

I dare you go cof and grind those 5 idols in video then let me know how many month it took

[fresh mango]

I dare you find 100mil to buy them

[austere frost]

Easy to buy stuff that aint common or op regarded

What's meta is expensive what aint is a joke cheap

Black hole one shot was dirt cheap guarantee

Idols

And getting gold in mg not hard just literally sell stuff

[fresh mango]

Right, forgot about that part. Just sell stuff lmao

[wooden monolith]

Can i play grim dawn with controller + mouse for stash managment ?

[alpine sage]

Idk since I use laptop

Never used controller

[austere frost]

At least if you know what's meta you make money ,I love cof but this idol grind is too much lmao

[fresh mango]

It really isn't that easy to "just sell and buy stuff" even if you know what you're doing, especially this league. You still have to grind hard to get gg items, i'd say even harder than cof
I could say the same, "just drop stuff, you have 50k% MF" 😅

[austere frost]

This doesn't work though as you may think for idols is completely useless and yes that is true it takes time but I didn't get the chance to buy 10 2 lp red rings last season and slam them on cof

You can make money if you know what's meta specially if you doing meta build ,at least you have a good amount of people farming for you ,

[barren spire]

Is there any recycle or reroll for legendaries or they are just done as they are?

[waxen nymph]

Vessel of Strife echo

[twilit jungle]

not bad i guess

[twilit jungle]

used to pray for times like this. get 3lp+ item and let them sit in stash forever

[quaint hearth]

I would rather have it in my stash forever than not have it at all 😆

have any build in mind with which you want to use this ?

[twilit jungle]

nope its just gonna rot. im going with phalanx instead

[wooden monolith]

I think i ll keep playing last epoch to finish my warpath, but as casual.
The game is less fun for long time players since we loot barely nothing ^^ i ll play like 30' per day

[wooden monolith]

Nice for an ultra speed farming warpath build : this weapon + dark stride boots + exulis/rampancy.

[daring lark]

Could've been better if I didn't waste FP on crit reduction and got %mana..

[barren spire]

This staff can only be purchased here?

[frigid zenith]

bought there or drop from rift beasts

[iron basin]

it can randomly drop from rift beasts, but it's most consistently bought from the vendor. buy it in your echoes if you're gonna buy it instead of act 10

[small ivy]

How are erasing strike builds at bossing?

[south ledge]

very good

[austere frost]

Its the same lp chance either buy in echo or chapter 10

[iron basin]

Didn't know that. I was under the impression that the vendor's chance scaled up

[austere frost]

Cof bonus applies but no corruption scaling

[pseudo parcel]

pog

Now.. where do I get a good ring base to slam this and my Sunwreath

[austere frost]

Conquered tower spam

[south ledge]

crit version dummy in +/- 25s

[daring lark]

20 shattered world corrupts, still no frenzy 😄

[austere frost]

Damm

[south ledge]

oh damn

[daring lark]

Am I just losing the average here? Now it's more than 25 still no frenzy lol

This

Or this

[frigid zenith]

it's like ~29 in average for 1 💀

[daring lark]

Fuuu

I did end up getting t6 str+armor, so keeping that over a perfect rolled one, feels badge though

[frigid zenith]

75% chance for positive * 50% chance for corrupted affix * 1 in 11 chance for frenzy

i can't even imagine strifing for that many highrolled SWs 💀

[daring lark]

I mean it was a sesh after 50 UAs so..

It's harder to get t7 feeders over getting the lps lol

[austere frost]

The first one is better

[daring lark]

Ty

[austere frost]

Its not corrupted honestly both are like almost same except the channel cost you can give it a corruption if you want

[daring lark]

Are there any good outcomes remaining for the corruption though?

[austere frost]

Could add an affix although I personally never got lucky with that

[daring lark]

Everytime I corrupted a non legendary item, it completely ripped lol

[austere frost]

Are you slamming t7 and then corrupt?

[daring lark]

Yeah

I meant non uniques mb

[austere frost]

Yeah I got like a maxroll thats nice

I hate that if you get the maxroll corrupt it doesn't maxroll the entire item

[daring lark]

Currently trying nihilus max rolled, it's not fun..

[potent oak]

Has anyone tried void shield throw since the patch 1.4.4 update?

[iron basin]

only void st builds i've seen are time rot

I've been brewing with the kismet sword and overcrit amulet on forge guard. honestly been a ton of fun with how bursty it gets

[proper viper]

There's been a good bit of discussion about it over the past few days. You can search for it in here for sure. There's a maxroll build and a build by Mistia.

[potent oak]

Been thinking about this lava burst shenanigans

[slow root]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/smite-paladin-guide

Is is ok if i slam a T6 cast speed on my first 1LP xylem ? Or do i still keep it empty until i find a T7 cast speed ?

[scarlet thistle]

You might as well take what helps you now. You can farm more Xylem. It's not too bad to get resources with the weaver echoes.

[alpine canopy]

Plus, pretty sure xylem has a bug where its displayed health/mana per attunement effect is wrong - you need to equip your xylems to figure out what its roll actually is

[polar juniper]

what are the best (2) lenses to use when trying to farm stuff from Echoes?
double rewards? canceling areans/campaign/dungeons?

[wooden monolith]

if your xylem has 6 mana per attunment, yeah wait for T7

[iron basin]

depends on what you're going for. I tend to do ItemType, Exalt/Unique, DoubleDrop

if it's something without a rarity I'll do DoubleDrop+DoubleRedeem

[slow root]

WHAT ?

[silk wasp]

Obscuring and focusing lens of time so I don’t spend an hour rerolling prophecies

Only 15minutes

[austere frost]

The 2 multiplicative lenses that make prophecies cost a lot more and a third is either the exact item type you want from prophecies or the only monolith events no dungeon arena or campaign events for better lp on the drops

[alpine canopy]

Ye, definitely try swapping around xylems to be sure, but I've seen a couple people have wildly different health between xylems that appear to have the same roll

[small ivy]

How do you guys utilize the second half of Reversal?

It's so weird to use in anything except boss fights

[daring lark]

Which one would be better for WP?

[small ivy]

Why doesn't the second one have flavor text 🤔

[daring lark]

Lol, actually. I didn't even notice

[iron basin]

ever since the rework I've only ever used reversal as a traversal skill and disabled the return functionality

i would guess that's how the majority of people use it too. even if unspec'd, just never return

[austere frost]

If it was t7 attack speed on the second I would say that one,since its only t6 I would assume first gives more damage

[small ivy]

Yeah, that's what I do

I can't not spec it, or I accidentally return constantly

[iron basin]

can triggered attacks and void spells be echoed?

[austere frost]

Like void spell casts? Like idk smite

[iron basin]

yeah just anything triggered in some capacity

I've assumed it's only direct uses that can echo, but the passive doesn't actually specify direct use

[daring lark]

Tooltip shows a bit more dps on 2nd

But I'm skeptical cause 90% crit multi is quite alot

[austere frost]

You echo whatever ability you directly use but said ability can do something and trigger something else like throwing and smite ,multistrike and smite

[iron basin]

right so only direct casts can echo, but those echoes can continue to trigger stuff

that's what i thought

[austere frost]

I dont think 29 attack speed beat 98 crit multi if you ask me

Cause thats the difference

[iron basin]

depends on how much of each you already have. the second one also has 3% extra melee crit

[austere frost]

Can always do dummy to see

[iron basin]

it also has slightly higher flat void. like I can see why it would have a higher tooltip

idk how hard it is to crit cap with WP though so that extra 3% could just be wasted

[austere frost]

Its not hard if you get a crit chance ring affix

[iron basin]

my shield throw build i've been playing gets to like 200% crit chance

which is slightly too much

[daring lark]

I can crit cap with a higher shattered world crit relic

But I lose good corruption on it, 6 str and armor hybrid corrupt

[austere frost]

Tooltip is misleading

[iron basin]

yeah tooltip frequently is missing a lot of info

[austere frost]

Go hit dummy put timer on phone whatever kills it faster its better 15 crit chanceis good enough

With perfect rolls you get like 30 flat crit then add 50+80+100 you end up at like 99 crit with the 15 crit splitter

[daring lark]

Hmm

So even tooltip for crit chance ingame is off?

with 15% it shows 101% crit chance

[austere frost]

Depends how many you got crit stuff

I just counted 5+5+5+15=30 5 starting,5 passive tree,5 shattered ,15 weapon

[daring lark]

Oh okay

Is the 90 vitality a good boost for dps?

[austere frost]

Vitality gives more damage and at 90 you get double bonus from devouring so its good

That being said its not a priority over other affix you may need depending on your gear

[subtle estuary]

Hey I got a question

So I'm a level 25 void Knight and I'm just wondering where I can get some better gear because it feels like I'm slapping the mobs with a napkin

[austere frost]

What skill are you using warpath?

[normal cedar]

I feel like 90 vit is pretty tough to get and im not sure its worth the dps boost it gives but i could be wrong

i feel like i gain a lot of dmg by stacking strength

and its easier

[iron basin]

doesn't void knight deal more melee damage per vit

[austere frost]

Every 3 vit =1 more

[peak zodiac]

1% per 3

[subtle estuary]

These two are my most used skills

[austere frost]

You may want other affixes though so getting to 90 its not easy

[iron basin]

make sure your filter isn't hiding too much, and just pick up any 2H axe or sword with a lot of flat damage on it

you can always craft flat void onto your weapon too

[austere frost]

That combo is good you just need a solid weapon 2 hand

Anyway isn't campaign really easy now with corrupted items dropping from omens

[subtle estuary]

I got this

Or this

[austere frost]

The axe is better

[iron basin]

second one might be more damage because of the higher flat

[austere frost]

Do you got any corruption runes can corrupt weapons that you have spare

[iron basin]

this number is what you're looking for while leveling. any affixes on the item itself that have +X Void Melee Damage as well

[subtle estuary]

What do they look like?

Sorry for the dumb question. Still learning this game

[austere frost]

Has like an eye it says run of corruption,you just need to push through until your first omen in campaign

Then you put whatever affix you need in gear and corrupt any extra ones,omen will drop gear thats gonna carry you until empowered monos

[subtle estuary]

Like this?

[austere frost]

No like this

You get them after you do omen

Just finish chapter 2 it should be more common stuff

@subtle estuary do you see the red lines on the weapon melee void damage/increase void damage those mods you try to craft on any weapon you want to use since void cleave can guarantee erasing strike crit this mods are very good and should boost your dps quite a bit,specially the melee void damage

[subtle estuary]

Gotcha

Thanks I'll remember this

[winged pulsar]

Questions about imprinting. For void warpath I’m missing a leonine helm with reduce channel and a good 2h axe.

Does the base put inside weaver tree also have to be exact base or just same item type? Does the tier for the desire affix matter?

Also when does the imprinting happen?

[trim badge]

The correct base gives a higher % or a greater chance to get what you want, but does not guarantee it. If you you can get the exact helmet you are looking for you are way more likely to get a helmet with way more affixes + correct base you want.

[austere frost]

You want leonine, you have none ,you imprint whatever helmet you have until you get a leonine to imprint,you want same base since imprints tries to drop mostly same base you imprinted,the affix tier sort of matters but I wouldn't worry much ,that being said affixes that you want to have if they are in the imprinted base will net you more useful items since it usually tries to give you similar affix but not all of them when imprint procs .

[trim badge]

You can also I think rune of envy? to get it to swap.

[slow root]

Does this only affect smite when cast with 0 mana ?

Or does it remove all healing from it ?

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, only when you are on negative mana

[slender willow]

guys how much mana pool for comfy warpath ( with t8 channel cost )

[waxen nymph]

I think it's 1200

[raven lynx]

uhm ~1200 mana and u can spin forever with 5/5 fury

[frigid zenith]

what about with t7 channel?

[austere frost]

It doesn't work without t8 channel you can do the math but the mana cost at 5/5 fury it gets unsustainable for a t7 channel cost add another 600 to 800 mana maybe you can make it work

But then you loose a lot of damage affix

[frigid zenith]

I wonder if dropping to 4/5 can be worth it

[austere frost]

Just to give perperctive i had like 1500 mana with t7 channel and I can't sustain 4 point in fury well enough

[austere frost]

Its not you killing your damage

Warpath needs fury to do damage

[frigid zenith]

RIP brutality + rampancy WP dream

[austere frost]

Rampancy works brutality does nothing though

[frigid zenith]

oh does the mana cost not work?

[austere frost]

Warpath has like 1 mana cost

[frigid zenith]

I thought something changed since I see warpath using WS now

I never saw that in season 2

guess it was just for the mana?

[austere frost]

In season e everyone uses ws its much better than the sword ,since t8 channel got introduced and we had huge damage

Now with nerfs you have to get some damage mods here and there but you still weaker than season 3

[frigid zenith]

was that with quickswap

[austere frost]

No like normal play,quickswap is for efficiency

[waxen nymph]

Its for the mana

[waxen nymph]

It's because Mana cost =/= Channel Cost

[frigid zenith]

yeah I thought something changed, I remember it wasn't used back then because it didn't benefit from most of WS's effects

I guess S3 made mana stacking much better that WS's mana alone is worth ti

[austere frost]

Brutality needs like 10 mana cost minimum mana to be worth using and at 20 is best

You can definitely use rampancy though but you cant use frenzy belt

[frigid zenith]

frenzy belt my beloved

😭

oh well it's void so I guess back to chains

[austere frost]

Frenzy belt saving us all

Making all melee builds kick caster build ass so hard rofl

[frigid zenith]

caster frenzy belt when

rip blood gonna go crazy

[austere frost]

They already got the cast speed they lacking the more damage though

[frigid zenith]

yeah I mean if they get a frenzy belt that lets them get more damage scaling with frenzy effect it'll be insane

since right now frenzy belt only give more damage to melee

rip blood already scales extra hard with cast speed so if they can get both from frenzy it'll be ohlala

[slender willow]

what the source of shred on warpath , i saw some players take shred on warpath tree , but i dont think it good idea , or i am wrong ?

[fallow juniper]

You have several type of shred, normal one and void res shred. Both are important.
Depending on the amount of Mana you have you can get the void res shred from the tree or the blessing.
Normal shred is taken from the tree and also from gear (best case scenario).

For Void res shred, two options:

• You have the mana cap (around 1200+ mana let's say), so you can keep the void res shred on the Devouring Orb tree (Rending Maw 4 pts in top right side) and keep the crit multi blessing
• You don't, so you don't take the void res shred on the tree (check Volca's tree for example) and you have to unspec the crit multi blessing in order to take the void res shred (Grand depths of infinity).

That's at least my understanding of all this, I'm no reference 🙂
But I put that i place for my own build and am killing Uber Aby again and again (that's never easy though).

My character is FAR from perfect but here it is in case you want to discuss on that base:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Aguilar/character/AguiWar
✅ Res cap
✅ Endurance cap (UA relic requires you to get an endurance roll somewhere)
✅ 100% Crit

[slender willow]

ty , ima talking about armor shred , so i am thinking +4 warpath worth on chest or +2 enough , and do prior on t4 mana or hp

t7*

[fallow juniper]

+2 WP is enough imo
For the slam on chest that's very debatable.... I put T7 inc health. But Mana is also an option and that could open you to slam meleecrit chance on gloves for example instead of mana (if you have enough mana slams elsewhere to reach the 1200+ mana cap... so that requires a very great helm... be careful with that)

If you manage to put a LP3 with Mana, inc health and +2 WP, you're in the dream of Eterra 😉

But before getting the UA gloves (that will certainly remains LP1), you can also aim for good Falcon fists with MAna/melee att speed/shred

That would also clear a lot of problems

And certainly ease your math to UA 😉

I killed him with LP2 Falcon gloves and LP2 chest (same as today) and +1 Nihilis (same as today) only, so that's feasible! and I'm no pro on him.

[daring lark]

What echo is best to farming weaver idols? The small ones and doing multiple enchant tries

[fallow juniper]

Weaver is cemetery related so there's no echo to focus on, you should rather adapt your weaver tree to spawn more cemeteries for example (or take certain woven echoes to pop cemeteries) 🙂

[daring lark]

Damn

Okay

Was wondering if there was something other than cemetery

[fallow juniper]

Not that I know of

[waxen nymph]

Calm down chatgpt

There are several echoes related to the Weaver faction

@daring lark

[daring lark]

Ty

[barren spire]

@austere frost

Hello!
I'm a bit stuck this season... what should I upgrade to kill uber abby?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/holydr4gon/character/holy

[daring lark]

Can Minor Weaver Idols be farmed with prophecy?

[frigid zenith]

yes

proph is the best way to farm any weaver idols imho

[daring lark]

Full tab of idol prophecy, not even one hit. Classic

[slender willow]

how works world splitter's "+0.3% crit per 1 mana cost" for channeling warpath , my channel cost 72 mana at maximum statcks , so should be 72x0.3 = 21.6 addition flat crit , but it not feels like true

[barren spire]

Holydr4gon [ᗪꙗЫꚛ], — 12:08 PM
Which are the best timelines to push corruption on?
Best maps layouts or bosses

So my inventory is full, I need to leave all this stuff behind?

[frigid zenith]

alas no way to go back and pick them up

so pick what you want most and the rest goes to orobyss

[wooden monolith]

i ve never played your build so don t trust me 100% but i wouldn t go apathy with your build. apathy lowers your mana and your dps, it s not good imo. get rid of the nihilis. get a xylem with +6 mana per attunment, T7 cleanse is useless, go T7 %healt instead. get ATtunment/%mana on helmet and chest

go 2LP or 1 lp+corruption on every slots

[barren spire]

I rterolled my LP items, how do i put them back into the stashj now?
Or do I have to lose them?

I dont see a stash anywhere

[wooden monolith]

click on the thing in the middle of the map, there is a stash

[waxen nymph]

Warpath mana cost is 1
Channel cost and mana cost are 2 separate things

[gloomy fern]

Note the regular Idol Prophecies don't drop Weaver Idols but there are Prophecies that are specifically for Weaver Idols. They become available at higher CoF Rank. The Minor Weaver Idol Prophecies show up starting at CoF Rank 9. Unfortunately they have the same Idol symbol has everything else, so you have to mouse over and check each one, which is a pain. Here's an example of one for Small Weaver Idols https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844008172640403496/1488654871535292426/image.png?ex=69e89823&is=69e746a3&hm=8df975fa05b6514454e78caf51da475c63b4430636c99ec3408962bacf692909&

There's a list here, click on the Prophecy Rewards tab and put something like "weaver" in the filter to narrow it down https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/faction/circle_of_fortune and in the Min Rank column you can check when they'll start showing up

[austere frost]

Yes they specifically are called minor weaver idols it needs to say weaver, grt ready to buy multiple full tabs to get the 2 mana affixes if that is what you want cause its hard it needs to say inspired something repose you can tell its a idol that can reach max 20 mana if it starts with inspired and finishes with repose.

[daring lark]

Yeah I did 1 tab and got none 😄

[austere frost]

I got a bunch full ty to corruption mechanic keep going although rerolling prophecies sucks

[daring lark]

Yeah, Just min/maxing at this point tbh

I wish imprinting was more specific, would have made me push my char more

[alpine sage]

I wonder

For bleed mainfest armor

If you dont use a shield is it just better to go paladin?

That build needs a lot of bleed affixes already so sustain might be possible with some corrupted affix (increased dmg over time and dmg over time leech as health).

[peak zodiac]

i mean

an optimal setup you’d snapshot the manifest armor gear so you wouldnt really have any bleed affixes actually equipped while playing, and there using a shield isn’t a downside

[alpine sage]

Damn why did EHG allow snapshot to exist?

[peak zodiac]

spaghetti code, nobody plays manifest armor so it’s not really a high priority i guess

[austere frost]

Because its the way to play minions take acolyte as an example you should snapshot 100% of tge time

[daring lark]

I assume 3lp siphon is more common than 2lp shattered chains? I've gotten like 4 3lp rings and zero 2lp chains

[frigid zenith]

i thought S3 was supposed to fix minion snapshotting

[austere frost]

siphon drops multiple while belt only 1

[daring lark]

I suppose that makes sense

[austere frost]

Nah they fix like one thing that gave like infinte damage ty to snapshot,but snapshot very much present and should be used in the game

[frigid zenith]

wish they'd properly remove it already and buff accordingly so minion builds can be as strong without it

[twilit jungle]

O LAWD

OOOHHHH LAWDDD

@frigid zenith im going with the angle of using onslaught with phalanx instead of mountain 1

[quaint hearth]

not too bad

[frigid zenith]

oh that looks nice

slightly less block chance cap than mountain but frees up so many affix slots

it'll probably be much better

[twilit jungle]

simply the +4 makes up for it

[frigid zenith]

lemme know how it goes

I think the other thing that kinda turned me off back then is how janky the thrusting animation feels

but it does look like it's gonna be fun with that new shield

[peak zodiac]

minions are extremely strong without it, sabertooth, bear, falcon, crows, ballista, frogs, zombies, all of these are some of the best builds in the game and you can’t snapshot them, and stuff like MA and abom some things you can still snapshot for max dps but it’s not neeeded at all abom in particular is one of the strongest builds in the game even without it

[daring lark]

Can we get the cleanse mod on belt as a corruption?

[waxen nymph]

Looks like it yeaj

[wooden monolith]

is fang of the berserker good for warpath ?

[pseudo parcel]

That's one healthy helm

[austere frost]

If you use that then t8 channel can't be used so its not worth

[wooden monolith]

forgot about that

yeah it s bad lol

[twilit jungle]

Is T5 melee void really that much better than t5 crit multi?

surely this much crit multi is better lol

[austere frost]

Flat damage is king like 99% of the time vs other affixes unless a specific case

[twilit jungle]

youre not wrong but seriously. up to 46 only?

[austere frost]

Thats t5 mod vs a t5 mod even at t7 vs t7 flat is better most time

[twilit jungle]

I guess the 41 will still be much better given all the more% modifiers and crit multi i already attain

[austere frost]

If you have a ton of flat somewhere then other affixes can ve more competitive or better like javelin skill fir example, you get a ton of throwing flat on gear so it might we worth running crit multi and increase on it instead of flat

[twilit jungle]

ill be running vengeance for example as my only damaging skill so i guess flat in this case is better

[austere frost]

Yeah it will be, that and attack speed most likely

Stuff like rive ,erasing strike, example scales better with flat and increase mods

[twilit jungle]

this hurts

corrupted one and it died lol

one of them that is

[austere frost]

Yeah I hate 3 lp slams lol,good thing at least phalanx has very good lpl so easier to get those 3lps

[twilit jungle]

yeah about those 3lps..

got 2 in 2 maps then never seen ever again

[austere frost]

Probably drop quite a bit from prophecies

[twilit jungle]

huh ok i didnt know increase mods was better for it

It is apparently extremely hard to get a 3lp on 100s of phalanxes on farsight turtle 😂

[austere frost]

Turtle could use a boost thats for sure whole recycling turtle/nemesis needs a boost

[twilit jungle]

is there no way to reroll the stats there for example?

77 AS is too low

[wooden monolith]

yes

[twilit jungle]

how?

[wooden monolith]

with a glyphe wait a sc

i don t remember name

[unborn lava]

can anyone help to tp me to act town and boss in normal mode, not seasonal?

[wooden monolith]

rune of refinement

[twilit jungle]

Preciate you

forgot that was a thing

[twilit jungle]

SIKE

[granite girder]

does indirect smite not heal you? i only see increase regen on heal when i directly cast it.

[alpine canopy]

It does still heal. Worth noting that you only get healed if you are missing health, so can't trigger that if your health is full.

[granite girder]

I see, make sense. had bleeding heart on so i was taking damage on direct cast and not indirect cast (melee). thanks

[alpine sage]

@austere frost @wooden monolith https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjHGPZiXTpc

[austere frost]

Not bad

[alpine sage]

I'm scared by this combo now

[austere frost]

Sadly I have corrupted like a bunch 1 lps and game gives me trash corruption or t1s so go mg or offline best bet

[simple reef]

anybody else think shield bash is op ash

[austere frost]

Next void cleave? Cool combos you showing

[simple reef]

LOL im not seeing the void cleave potential rn i'll be honest

but who knows

[austere frost]

It has a lot of more modifiers but the cooldown is the bad part

[simple reef]

yeah it's not that bad maybe