#šŸ”±ā”ƒsentinel

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barren spire
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I already have 1 open

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If you or someone would like to kill it for me, maybe I can get some decent loot

austere frost
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Post it in game chat trust

barren spire
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Ah directly ingame?

austere frost
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Yeah

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Not here

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If you get an umbral rogue up its ez time

barren spire
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@austere frost I was wondering I am using the maxroll loot filter on strict, maybe I should do my own loot filter? Or there is someone you know it would work better?

austere frost
barren spire
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Im not confident in what I should look for exactly

barren spire
austere frost
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I dont bother though either it hits or it doesn't

barren spire
austere frost
wooden monolith
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Go warpath, it s the easiest ua killer, people here kill it with 1lp gear (but you still need to learn the fight)

barren spire
slow root
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Is paladin fire/lightning warpath uber viable ? I don't wanna play VK because i already have a rive VK

austere frost
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Dont give up on your build aura paladin kills uber faster like way faster

barren spire
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When the corruption trolls hard....

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I was hoping for the maxed rolls...

austere frost
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Look why 1.4 content is so 🤮 absolutely useless ty omens

wooden monolith
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Warpath is easier to play though, no collision managment, no stun, easy dodging.

austere frost
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Yeah its about time aura pally should kill uber sub 50 seconds this league with some effort

wooden monolith
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Non unique corrupted items are useless in end game. We use only unique and we can t slam corrupted so ...

barren spire
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when I egg an item, will I also reroll it or only addd the LP?

austere frost
barren spire
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šŸ™

austere frost
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Btw an unique cant become a 4 lp from one shot empower it can become 3 lp and then second empower can maybe if you get lucky make it a 4 lp

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Damm shame if you ask me

austere frost
austere frost
# barren spire šŸ™

Btw you can use a 2 lp that you slammed and you corrupt said unique and now it gained an extra affix, this unique counts as a 3 lp for reroll purposes and same logic applies to other lps

barren spire
alpine canopy
austere frost
high narwhal
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limit testing aspirational build on offline mode and gdi bleed/or dot is just bad, even on 3k bleed its still less damage than other build. that build have every penetration/damage over time i can put into too

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and thats normal aberoth

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i dont want to play shield throw

austere frost
high narwhal
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its just for thhe bleed stack number tbh

peak zodiac
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well bleed stack number means nothing if you don’t have bleed duration phys pen more multipliers etc

austere frost
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Rive is not a good bleed build applier very little multi for it

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You have to do multistrike or minmax vengeance

high narwhal
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whats the number of bleed stack on multistrike?

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i think hammer throw is good too but never tried it

peak zodiac
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and i see here you have no flame drinkers blade, scrap metal, phys res shred so i mean, lol yeah im not surprised

austere frost
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Idk i haven't play it but I think probably its better than vengeance

high narwhal
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and i have phys res? or because i have phys res?

high narwhal
austere frost
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Also has better more multipliers

peak zodiac
high narwhal
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does the multiplier go to bleed?

peak zodiac
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yes

austere frost
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Where is abyssal echoes for your bleed build

high narwhal
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oh i mean

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yes if im playing non bleed build scrap metal better

peak zodiac
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that’s armor shred does nothing for dot lol

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phys res shred =/= armor shred

high narwhal
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oh i thought bleed is from phys

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so it count on armor shred

peak zodiac
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armor shred is only for hits

high narwhal
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but i do have bleed penetration

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phys shred, where do i get that? idol?

peak zodiac
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blessing, passive node in forge guard can shred it on throwing attack, those are the most common ways off the top of my head

high narwhal
peak zodiac
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i mean the biggest reason hammer throw is common for bleed is spiral hammers apply many many hits and hammer throw has good more multipliers that work for bleed

high narwhal
barren spire
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:DDDDD @austere frost

peak zodiac
high narwhal
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getting good number first?

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as base?

peak zodiac
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but not if it says ā€œmore hit damageā€ or ā€œmore throwing damageā€ etc

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well bleed base damage stays the same but that gets multiplied by number of stacks, increased physical damage, pen + shred, increased duration, more multipliers, so having good multiplier nodes in your skill tree is very important

high narwhal
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btw rive is like, half the stacker?

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because my flying sword (forget its name) also applied it

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the damage of bleed from sword and player is same right?

peak zodiac
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no, because forged weapons only inherit stats from weapon, not the rest of your gear, so to scale their bleeds you would need things like increased minion damage, so they will apply a lot of stacks but those stacks won’t do much damage

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usually you want to focus on scaling minion or player damage, some builds can scale both but it’s not very common because they need different stats

daring lark
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I should wait for a 3lp world splitter right

high narwhal
daring lark
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I'm too scared to actually use rune of havoc to get 2% more crit chance, but I would want t6 on shred / multi / crit chance

high narwhal
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like the illusion of stack number

peak zodiac
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yeah the forged weapons aren’t gonna do much damage for you

high narwhal
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but half of it not dealing good damage

daring lark
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How uncommon are 3lp splitters?

high narwhal
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i hate turtle

high narwhal
high narwhal
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and slam on 2lp

daring lark
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I'm gonna do that yeah, but wanting to land the t7 on crit but worried I might use up all my LP

wooden monolith
daring lark
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Oh shit

high narwhal
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how many lp2 world splitter you got?

wooden monolith
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Slam on lp2, stats are still good

austere frost
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2 lp splitters are easy to get if you do nemesis turtle ,3 lp is getting lucky big time

daring lark
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Now I will cause I just got the axe drop

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Any good way to farm nemesis tower/weavers? Wasn't there a chain you could make to self sustain amber/towers?

austere frost
daring lark
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Oh shit

alpine sage
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so where is the ES version I wonder

austere frost
alpine sage
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I have not checked mistia version yet

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but anyway

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isn't right now it's better to use nest?

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both shield throw and ES?

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I just wonder, is there anything shield throw do better than ES?

austere frost
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You can then use shattered with the frenzy effect all stats and dr like feels much better

alpine sage
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hmm

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well I go for rampancy anyway

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so not sure if 100% from shattered is necessary

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the thing is, nest is for the "time rot duration" idols

austere frost
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Rampancy it would be ok just not worth for us imo too much investment

alpine sage
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ah ok

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make sense

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but ideally I think bbc and nest is now the best

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since time rot duration scaling is insane

austere frost
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Maybe but would you get a lot of dex

alpine sage
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20 from exulis

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11 from red ring and momentum

austere frost
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Mistia version is pretty affordable and its incredibly strong

alpine sage
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8 from exile

austere frost
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We use julras

alpine sage
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4 from nest

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that's quite a lot already

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hmm you mean julras obession?

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the gloves?

peak zodiac
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stardial

alpine sage
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ah

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julras is very good but idk, that makes you a total glass cannon

austere frost
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No really you have plenty of hp and good dr

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You rock titan hearth

alpine sage
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ah ok

austere frost
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Brew master belt

alpine sage
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but I stacked rampancy

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so need something else to sustain

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still

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I wonder: is there anything shield throw does better?

austere frost
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Better than what?

alpine sage
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es

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non-melee?

austere frost
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Better mobility , more survivability,faster clear it got buffed quite good

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Dont need void cleave anymore

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70 more tree vs 30

wooden monolith
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Mistia, what s your next build ?

mellow totem
frigid zenith
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bruh this forge weapon chance on attack corrupt seems insane

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if I can get 20 stacks of scrap metal with just 16%, then with 61% chance I should be hitting like 78 stacks right

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that's ~230 more multi @_@

alpine sage
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hmm

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it seems that shield throw version needs a shield right?

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since Idk if damage drops significantly if not

austere frost
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You need a shield yes

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And the mountain shield gives strongest buff but demands investment

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Which we could try to do online before

alpine sage
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wait why?

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pretty sure the block chance thing only increase hit dmg?

winter copper
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guys u are so cooked here

alpine sage
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?

austere frost
alpine sage
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and I wonder if we really need a shield

austere frost
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You dont need shield for time rot ,only reason they wear a shield is that you need 2 affix of set ty to legends Entwined to access the 2 more multis for time rot, and you get those affix on shield,1 handed sword and amulet

alpine sage
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ah ok I see

mellow totem
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I use shield just for better defense. Some others dual wield for more damage.

alpine sage
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for me

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I wonder if bbc+nest might be better

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but if exulis is used then we need the weapon+shield if we want the multiplier

leaden totem
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exhulis just for rampancy?

wooden monolith
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Why rampancy ?

alpine sage
wooden monolith
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Rampancy for dot build ?

alpine sage
wooden monolith
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Ha ok

austere frost
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If you use BBC you cant use exulis and get the bonus you can though get exalt with the set bonus and get rapancy on it

alpine sage
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and chance to slow too but that's not related to frenzy

austere frost
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You get 2 set benefit at least

alpine sage
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if exulis is used then weapon+shield is needed

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but bbc gives better offensive affixes

leaden totem
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what is BBc?

alpine sage
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black blade of chaos

leaden totem
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the slow blade?

alpine sage
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@austere frost I guess both version are strong

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es needs exulis

leaden totem
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both seem affordable

alpine sage
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rampancy+brutality

leaden totem
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let the tests begin

alpine sage
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if weapon+shield then we have 1 hand weapon which gives less offeisive affixes

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but we have some multi

alpine sage
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I'm too lazy to change anymore

leaden totem
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cant we use palarus?

alpine sage
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it's a dot aliment

proper viper
alpine sage
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I linked it above

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and started this whole discussion

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and the main reason I started it is to ask if ES is better for time rot

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ES can receive brutality bonus

austere frost
alpine sage
leaden totem
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why not bees on idols? thats because we are not focusing on shield throw. but on time rot?

wooden mountain
austere frost
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I am kinda tired of trying to figure out if the stuff works or not to be honest not my job to get naked in game and hit dummy to prove stuff

austere frost
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Supermassive black hole was same thing conditional but not affected dot,honestly call it oversight old tech whatever,the potential is there but hey bugs or design problems just dont allow it 🤣

manic cradle
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as always, misitia delivers the best builds in the game šŸ™‚

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30s shield throw timerot uber šŸ™‚

wooden mountain
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There are so many hit-only damage multipliers... EHG should really stop doing that imo

peak zodiac
austere frost
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Nice i though at least the vengeance one worked

peak zodiac
wooden mountain
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in maps I'd want to just use auto dorb to kill everything that doesn't need a shield throw

peak zodiac
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for sure

austere frost
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I remember what ehg said when someone asked about other skills getting the black hole fix,we are only doing this for black hole in 1.4, it would be nice if they fix their code on skills more than 1 per season🫔

peak zodiac
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i’m also like 99% sure you still want to go bbc (especially since ST has dex scaling) and reliquary nest

alpine sage
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hmm

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for shield throw

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no need to stack a lot of strength

wooden mountain
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I just realised that with void well a +120 mana slam is also a bit better than a +100% increased mana regen slam

alpine sage
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better to stack dex

peak zodiac
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yeah for sure, no value from brut, with bbc you get increased and void pen

alpine sage
austere frost
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Am I crazy or the 40% duration idols are supposed to be better than the slow ones?

peak zodiac
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probably dex + rampancy

crystal bramble
peak zodiac
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well until quicksand gets fixed they are

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once quicksand gets fixed maybe not

austere frost
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So maxroll just uses those and I was like not sure about their choice

alpine sage
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quicksand?

wooden mountain
# alpine sage quicksand?

anomaly node that is bugged in the player's favor IIRC

Quicksand 0/5
When enemies return to the present, all damaging ailments currently applied to them apply faster.
This affects the duration of ailments, not damage.
Ailment Speed On Return: +25% per point

peak zodiac
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ye

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it pops all ur timeot instantly and gives it way more dmg than it should

wooden mountain
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that's what it says it does, I don't know the specifics of how it's bugged to be better than that

alpine sage
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wait

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so the whole reason the build is op is due to this bug?

peak zodiac
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for some reason you’d think 100% speed means 2x speed but it makes it instant

alpine sage
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I mean the reason time rot pops instantly?

peak zodiac
alpine sage
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ah ok

wooden mountain
alpine sage
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but this bug is the whole reason we have time rot pops instantly on anomaly cast?

wooden mountain
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but it's not gonna be skipping every uber immunity phase without it

peak zodiac
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because if it’s only 2x speed then 15s time rot is gonna take a long time to do ur dmg

wooden mountain
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in 1.2 mediocre investment in rot grip's scalars and a fairly bad auto-DORB build let you just walking sim your way to 1kc easy

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haven't played sentinel in 1.3 or 1.4

alpine sage
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hmm

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I feel sad for bleed hammerdin

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it scales insanely with affixes

alpine sage
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when has this bug existed?

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since season 2?

wooden mountain
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yeah in 1.2 it was used to instakill uberroth with javelin battle standard

alpine sage
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wait so why has it not been fixed?

wooden mountain
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Where Do You Think You Are?

alpine sage
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since I remember they fixed the javelin thing

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so why has this one not been fixed?

wooden mountain
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they didn't fix javelin, they just nerfed it by making the biggest multiplier not work for ailments

alpine sage
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ah ok

wooden mountain
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and reduced some of the chance to slow and chance for time rot on uniques

alpine sage
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so they are aware of the bug

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but did not fix this one

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since players love it

austere frost
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I am sorry fixing stuff no no kill the nodes that made it op

alpine sage
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well tbh I would perfer if EHG just change the description of the node

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instead of fixing it

wooden mountain
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what like 0/4 causes ailments to deal their remaining damage over less duration 25% less duration per point?

peak zodiac
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also the one that resets duration doesn’t work at all lmao

leaden totem
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so. volca or mistia setup? what do u guys think

daring lark
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good enough for rune of creation I guess?

austere frost
wooden mountain
daring lark
austere frost
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But any build mistia does is straight up better than others for the most part cant go wrong

daring lark
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Ah

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Any insight on how to improve dps? I'm seeing vids of people deleting UA with WP

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,542, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 1,124.48, Regen: 14.48/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 36%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 48 Str / 18 Dex / 18 Int / 26 Att / 48 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 110% / 97% / 88% / 79% / 130% / 87% / 113%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,156
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 3% (72)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 51% (3,224)
ā–ø Block Chance: 1%, Mitigation: 4% (25)

proper viper
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How do we think the void shiel throw builds will do in comparison to other meta builds? In mapping? In UA?

austere frost
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But didn't need a guide to tell that it was already s tier on both

rocky scaffold
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No reason to play it over meta stuff unless u really like it

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Cool and different thought!

daring lark
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Any insight on how I can improve dps? @austere frost

austere frost
daring lark
austere frost
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A 1 lp shattered worlds with like a t7 void cleave could be great

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You can get frenzy on your relic which is extremely strong for you for dps wise, this comes from a corruption

daring lark
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I was thinking of t7 mana and replacing the mana on chest with %health

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And getting shred/melee crit on world splitter

austere frost
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2 lp crab ring at least with crit chance and t7 void damage or strength if you need tankiness plus some dps

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You need a better helmet asap I would say a leonine would be huge for survivability for you

daring lark
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I know

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If only I could get a decent leonine..

austere frost
daring lark
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I mean I have this for a 2/3lp

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Didn't want to gamble for attack speed

austere frost
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A better altar also would be huge likr buff suffix mainly

daring lark
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I have one already for more suffix but it isn't pyramid sadly

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Not sure if this is better

rocky scaffold
daring lark
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xD

austere frost
daring lark
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Hmm

austere frost
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This gonna give you a ton of increase damage

daring lark
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Done like 50 omen echoes

austere frost
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Grind some.omen veils

daring lark
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It's like 1-2 drops in 2-3 runs, kinda sadge

austere frost
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I know its a pain I am same spot rarely drop anything decent

rocky scaffold
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Do voto non stop

daring lark
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voto?

wooden mountain
rocky scaffold
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Vision of the observer boss

daring lark
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I think after getting 1lp Shattered world, I will focus on getting 2lp stuff

rocky scaffold
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Drops around 8 omen idols x kill iirc

daring lark
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Yeah

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I've been running those too

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I need better altar, my omens are okayish for now

rocky scaffold
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Also had a quick glance at your planner

daring lark
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Also have this as an altar. But less overall mana

rocky scaffold
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For uber, get shred blessing over CM. I assume we can run shred orb again after the mana bugfix but not with your 1.1k mana. Need to log on my hc wp again.

From my experience 1.300 mana is breakpoint to run shred dev orb, even without bug. Unless you max roll your T8, then you can rock 1250 and still use shred orb. If you get that, you can get back your CM blessing.

Also the 16% flat crit weapon will tilt the shit out of me. Makes your rolls on crit rings very important so harder to get gg ones.

daring lark
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Hmm

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What about the above altar, worth using?

rocky scaffold
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Pyramidal of bust, need the refrected slot layout

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So you can get x4 boosted

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And of course, you can get frenzy relic and more lp, im sure you know that without us telling you xd

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If you get to the desired mana without mana on gloves (should be easy) you go AS on them.

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Keep in mind void well is bugged and proccing with only 1 essence

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So the moment they fix it

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We go back to shred blessing and cd orb.
If they fix that u might not be able to sustain with your current mana, so u should probably work on that regardless in advance.

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But until then, abuse early and often

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Surprised nobody pointed out any of this… well glad if i could be of any help

fallow juniper
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Am actually wondering if that's a good thing to equip shattered while I lose the frenzy from my anchor :/

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Nice shattered though

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But getting frenzy corruption on a shattered, good luck šŸ˜…

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For warpath there's no other way than the relic to get the Frenzy buff?

peak zodiac
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for that build, not really. a lot of the other sources of frenzy either require you to reset your ramp, or have another opportunity cost associated that is too high

daring lark
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So I can get the void shred from void essence and still keep WP 100%?

rocky scaffold
rocky scaffold
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U also get some from anomaly, not reliable on uber and only gives 6ish stacks

daring lark
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I saw someone with a shred on wep with crit chance and the stacks were like 150+

rocky scaffold
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Void shred

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Is the shred that im talking about!

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Armor from
Idols as you have is fine

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Aim for 100 min to 150 stacks max

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Huge DR on armor shred

peak zodiac
rocky scaffold
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With shred effect u need even less

peak zodiac
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ye thought so

rocky scaffold
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Basically looking at -10000 armor

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As a goal

daring lark
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I'm not crossing 70-80 on UA atm

rocky scaffold
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But the difference on -8000
And -10000 is like 5%

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Void shred will be massivr

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As you only have the pen from passive

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If u get it on weapon its less of a dps jump

daring lark
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Hmm

rocky scaffold
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I dont know if you are following our set up or not, but alot of times in our planners if you diverge on like 1 affix, you lose 20% of total damage

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And you diverged on a few places that are quite important, mainly thr shred related stuff

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I pointed out

daring lark
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I was following volca's guide on maxroll

rocky scaffold
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Then you will see we run shred blessing, etc etc

daring lark
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I was just testing out stuff, but yeah void shred did give me more dps on UB

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UA*

rocky scaffold
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Jiga

daring lark
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I'm waiting to slam mana on shattered world

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So I can get more health on my chest

rocky scaffold
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May the void bless you

daring lark
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And get a better helm too lol

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So far failed 5x 2lp crab rings šŸ˜„

rocky scaffold
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Gyph of envy every useful exalted sentinel helm

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Surprisingly effective yo get leonine helm

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My seasonal warpath is at 6k hp atm

daring lark
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Holy

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Can you link your planner?

rocky scaffold
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I am hc so its kinda needed

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Sure, been runing cm
Blessing for mapping btw in case u see it

fallow juniper
peak zodiac
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chest is giga

rocky scaffold
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Been playing different builds on HC, hvnt even done uber yet as i wanna kill it with offmeta first to get dopamine

daring lark
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Ty

rocky scaffold
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Im corrupting every item as its finished so ive slowed down progression alot with the trolling xdd

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Alot of briking xd

peak zodiac
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i saw some of the bricks on the YT replays, pretty funny

rocky scaffold
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Yeah im having a blast at least

daring lark
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And here I'm too scared to vaal my near perfect nihilus lol

rocky scaffold
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Its pixels man!

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Yolo

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As chris wilson intended

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Close your eyes

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And feel the exitement

daring lark
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Can't even pray to Chris Wilson anymore, different game

rocky scaffold
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Pray to the void anus

daring lark
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Lul

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But ngl, WP feels more fun than ES

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Although I played ES when it was giga meta

rocky scaffold
daring lark
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6th crab ring slam failed

rocky scaffold
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Specially chest

daring lark
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I am running out of bases to feed lol

rocky scaffold
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Imprint your highest lp crab

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U will get tons

fallow juniper
rocky scaffold
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Imprints still op to passivly farm common stuff

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And get jiga lp

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Got like 20 3lp crab rings from imprints

fallow juniper
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only one that gave mle stuff is echoing riches..

daring lark
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which slot do you put imprints in

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I have a 2h axe with 2t6/1t7 in

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But yeah, doubt that's gonna happen again

rocky scaffold
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@fallow juniper seems like even a 2lp would be a nice upgrade

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I dont imprint exalteds or super rate stuff

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Unless there is nothing else to upgrade

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That got nerfed x20

daring lark
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I have a 1t7 leonine helm imprinted and it doesn't drop LOL

fallow juniper
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Why? it caps my crit and also my endurance

daring lark
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You can't imprint boss drops right?

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Like a 3lp anguish?

rocky scaffold
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Only imprint exalteds on champion

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Imprints for non rare uniques only hot nerfed by 1/2

fallow juniper
rocky scaffold
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so its till op to passivly get non rare stuff with jiga lp

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But people still wanna use them for multi exalts, for whatever reason

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Use the boat on the sea, the car for the road

daring lark
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So exalt imprint on champ

daring lark
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Rest for farming high lp uniques?

rocky scaffold
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Yep

daring lark
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Cheers

rocky scaffold
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And make sure its your common uniques

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Rare uniques from propechies

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Exalts from nemesis

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So you diversify resources

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While farming all at once

fallow juniper
rocky scaffold
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Yeah the mana would help alot

fallow juniper
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I should remove the shred void res and change my blessing but the loss of dps hurts a bit too much :/

rocky scaffold
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Since you hit vit on boots

orchid flint
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time rot void shield throw supremacy

rocky scaffold
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I would sugest looking into a bit more vit

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To hit the orb double damage breakpoint

fallow juniper
rocky scaffold
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Void orb more void damage node

brave latch
#

sealed affixes can't be julra'd right? 😐

rocky scaffold
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Doubles its bonus if u reach 90 vit

fallow juniper
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35 additional vita seems a bit too hard to reach šŸ˜„

rocky scaffold
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Idols + effect

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No non vit idols allowed

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U can use omens to make room for aditional humble idols

daring lark
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Oh shit, that's why vitality is so important

fallow juniper
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Yep but I farmed that A LOT and I could not get better than what I got so far :/

daring lark
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I forgot about that node

rocky scaffold
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Can fit 2 + 5

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And a 2 more + 3

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With enought omens

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The moment i hit vit on my boots il push for it

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There is also vit on passives y can grab over more dps if missing a couple points etc

fallow juniper
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ok i'll check that as a priority then. I might go back to omen farming to get better idols as well..

daring lark
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These rolls...

wooden mountain
daring lark
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Already got one with haste effect but I suppose melee damage is better?

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Using this currently

fallow juniper
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that first line is not on my loot filter while it seems actually ok

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I just put the ones from the planner, a mistake i guess

rocky scaffold
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The auto filters on maxroll are cracked, i highly recomend uber strict

daring lark
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What really? I am using strict and I barely see stuff šŸ˜›

rocky scaffold
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Thats good!

fallow juniper
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Did my own using the base of maxroll

rocky scaffold
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Pog

fallow juniper
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but this first line seems actually ok

rocky scaffold
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We recently added a line for 1 line idols you can enable

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In case ur idols are still not top tier

fallow juniper
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for the moment mine shows only inc void dmg & inc melee dmg for the large idol first line

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Actually @rocky scaffold , on the planner the prefix large idol line seems strange

rocky scaffold
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Omens can get 2x2

fallow juniper
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"inc void dmg if echoed recently"... That corresponds to "Spiteful" right?

rocky scaffold
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Its kinda troll

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Makes it so alot of bis idol combos can only exist as omens

daring lark
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Any real benefit of pushing past 1k?

fallow juniper
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800 seems already enough I feel.

rocky scaffold
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On cof, not really if you get slowed at all

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All the important stuff get capped at 1k

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Unless you push ladder, dont botter

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My wp hc guy got all his gear at 300c

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If you look at the math behind drops its quite hilarious xdd

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Its way more important to play efficient and fast, than to push

fallow juniper
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Efficiency all my problem šŸ˜„

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Town is lava, never got that I'm afraid :p

tardy marsh
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I have a stash problem

rocky scaffold
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I feel we all do

tardy marsh
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I keep WAY too much stuff

rocky scaffold
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Corrupting made it worst

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Need ALL the backups xd

fallow juniper
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Hope that one day we could SAVE that damn stash tab setup! šŸ™‚

rocky scaffold
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I dont even color or name mine

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Until that happens

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Boycot, its a political statement

fallow juniper
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@rocky scaffold Si if I got it right i should:

  • put my best titan on imprint
  • stop UA kill and go back to idol farming
  • only go with Vita prefixes (apart from large idol) to try to reach the 90 cap
  • farm a better pyramid to help with the 90 vita cap + check passives to steal some points for more vita
rocky scaffold
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Yeah i say u focus on omens

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Id do crab impront

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And titan propecies

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Only other way around IF u also want red rings

fallow juniper
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omen veil --> fractured prison --> repeat

rocky scaffold
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For another build

brave latch
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can't win them all

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šŸ„€

fallow juniper
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the world of Eterra closed its door šŸ˜‰

fallow juniper
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Oh no you have the body armor generic as well ok šŸ™‚

lilac geyser
fallow juniper
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No i don't think so

lilac geyser
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thought they fixed the bug with the last patch wp seems to work better now

daring lark
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I'll dial down to 600-700 corruption then to farm. I one shot in maps at that level

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Not so much at 1k

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@rocky scaffold Any good weaver tree, I'm giga stumped on what's best

fallow juniper
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Guys, what do you do when you have tabs of similar LP0 item after you put tons in turtle woven.. ? I mean that's annoying to redo nemesis for tabs of items...

daring lark
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I left click and then left click on the ground

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Rinse and repeat

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Unless it's like a rare drop obviously

lilac geyser
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yea nemesis lol hate doing that cycle but dont got much else

fallow juniper
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I hope they'll create something in their expansion

daring lark
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Are the uber aberroth echoes random drops?

lilac geyser
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pretty good chance of getting one from normal uber

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were I got most of mine

daring lark
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The RP takes longer than the fight :<

dreamy ruin
#

if i wanna this armor
i use the rune in any armor ?

fluid sparrow
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Dang, was trying to farm a sentinel body armor affix... forgot i was on mage, so ... less sentinel specific bodies

waxen nymph
#

@south ledge Yop did you end up trying Void Lava Burst?

fluid sparrow
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Once you find the affix on a body, it is best to imprint it on the champions to see it drop again to shatter/rune of removal it for more right?

south ledge
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@waxen nymph yep still building it. But quite busy currently

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seems pretty strong, trying to get some bee corruptions on my idols

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it's already on the power level of my EQ BM, which has arguably better items

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (65) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (20)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,442, Regen: 25.45/s
ā–ø Mana: 141.99, Regen: 9.44/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 5%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 23 Str / 43 Dex / 0 Int / 5 Att / 27 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 97% / 119% / 167% / 79% / 88% / 86% / 54%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 800
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 7% (194)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 53% (3,392)
ā–ø Block Chance: 73%, Mitigation: 60% (2,982)

south ledge
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current state

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amulet is arguably the worst

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just got a nice imprint

waxen nymph
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Nice

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Does that get converted to void?

south ledge
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yep

waxen nymph
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I would assume no

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Oo

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Wtf!?

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Really?

south ledge
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and when I put the points in dps went up significantly

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also the damage numbers

waxen nymph
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OoOoO

vital root
#

Lava Burst in shield throw's tree scales with spell damage and not throwing stuff, right?

waxen nymph
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So they have the technology to do this then

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Maybe one day theyll apply it everywhere

fluid sparrow
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There are other conversion mods?

vital root
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ty

waxen nymph
south ledge
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on 664 corruption

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the burst does 60-75k

fluid sparrow
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on items, similar to that shield throw to void

south ledge
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dmg

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with this build

waxen nymph
fluid sparrow
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:D

waxen nymph
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Because sometimes conversions are just worse because they are missing a big more tied to an element

fluid sparrow
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true

south ledge
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yep

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I think in maxroll terms it's at least an A-Tier build

scarlet thistle
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Does the fire pen node also convert? I keep seeing people skip it

south ledge
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probably does, but not worth the points/points free to take it

mossy nova
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Does the "Flaming sword" node in vengeance convert iron blades?

dire lantern
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,593, Regen: 35.2/s
ā–ø Mana: 254.51, Regen: 14.96/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 40 Str / 56 Dex / 19 Int / 27 Att / 33 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 143% / 115% / 115% / 112% / 107% / 92% / 92%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 81%, Threshold: 1,657
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 13% (421)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 46% (2,762)

dire lantern
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Let me know if that looks pretty legit for a fun aoe map clearing build

daring lark
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Shattered world 1lp is like non existant for me lol

rocky scaffold
daring lark
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I'm CoF so nemesis/omens/imprints currently

slow root
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Is there an english guide for this ? Looks really interesting

silk wasp
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Is there something you need to know that the planner doesn't already tell you?

crude matrixBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (79)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,053, Regen: 197.98/s
ā–ø Mana: 335.18, Regen: 9.09/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 29 Str / 19 Dex / 19 Int / 40 Att / 21 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 854% / 150% / 160% / 115% / 125% / 66% / 90%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 76%, Threshold: 1,280
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 6% (265)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,061)
ā–ø Block Chance: 92%, Mitigation: 47% (1,816)

slow root
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For this planner, what uniques can i use for the shield and belt ? Sorry, i'm relatively new

silk wasp
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Rahyeh's shield would be the closest equivalent. There isn't really a good option for the belt. You just have to craft it.

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Could use a ruby fang shield too, actually

slow root
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I've never crafted for endgame builds. Always on uniques.

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Taking notes.

slow root
silk wasp
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Probably. He uses a crafted dawn shield with the set affix on the UA planner

slow root
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So i need to craft on a dawn shield base and add the ruby affix to it ?

silk wasp
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Yeah

alpine canopy
frigid zenith
#

for damage dealt to mana before health, if a hit puts your mana to 0, is the overflow damage that was supposed to be dealt to mana dealt to health, or is it gone?

polar juniper
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Maybe I'm overthinking it, but will "Elemental Damage" affix, benefit Judgement's Consecrated Ground DoT?

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Or does it have to be "Elemental Damage over time"?

glacial sky
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How do you guys deal with the auto casting devouring orb? I feel like my VK is always at 0 mana

alpine canopy
craggy cairn
frigid zenith
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I was thinking of utilizing the unused mana

sharp comet
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I am playing lightning javelin hit build. If I equip a spear with 80 PHYS melee dmg, do I get 40 PHYS throw dmg, or just general 40 throw dmg?

waxen nymph
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Phys

sharp comet
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Okay, so I need generic melee dmg or lightning

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Thank you ā¤ļø

peak zodiac
frigid zenith
silk wasp
sharp comet
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It is a bug that volatile reversal never resets? It's stuck on 2nd combo indefinitely

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I do get perma 20 % of armor into dot mitigation, but can't use my frenzy xD

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I can use it and it tps me back to the original position. But that's on the other side of the map

waxen nymph
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Oo

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Never heard of that

sharp comet
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I reported it with F

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F8

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Tried it again at the beginning of cemetery, ran quite far and clicked. Yup straight to the entrance again

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Also made sure it's not just a visual bug. The volatile reversal icon above skillbar disappears and everything. BUt it doesn't revert back to combo 1

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I want to restart the game, but I Was thinking in case I Need to do something first, besides reporting

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Put a new skillpoint in volatile reversal and the bug disappeared

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Tried removing the skillpoint to see if it's spesific points that trigger it. But nope, can't recreate the bug anymore. It's gone

quaint hearth
slow root
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Are there any viable warpath builds besides the usual void well VK ?

I really wanna be a paladin who spins around while making smites fall from the sky šŸ˜•

silk wasp
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You can do that

slow root
buoyant ginkgo
wooden mountain
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I'm kind of interested in a vortex pennant smiter but it's just not very good & hard to build for

slow root
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Thanks for the suggestions

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I'd play VK warpath, but i'm too scared of the mana management. I respec'd my rive VK into erasing strike a couple days ago, and it went really badly. So i just went back to rive and didn't bother with warpath.

waxen nymph
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Isnt it fixed now ?

frigid zenith
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is smite warpath actually a thing?

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isn't the node in the tree itself only once a second

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and palarus is capped at like 3/s

wooden mountain
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yeah that's all true, but it's good enough for 500-1000c and not doing anything really challenging afaict

frigid zenith
#

sounds a bit worrying against packs when you can only hit 4 of them per second 😰

wooden mountain
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they mostly use lightning smite with the subskill bolts of lightning so you get more single target damage in multi-target situations too

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xylem selfcast is obviously better but it's not like that WP approach stops working as soon as you get to empowered monoliths

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How much generic %inc damage can you get for vortex pennant & smite on throwing hit idols?

frigid zenith
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ah yeah the lightning bolts there sounds like it alleviates the multitarget concern a bit

wooden mountain
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idk how you'd get enough skill points for it but I have wondered if you could get those bolts on void smite and if they'd convert

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if you void convert smite you lose attunement scaling, xylem etc

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feels like a lot of approaches just don't quite come together

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if only vortex pennant threw hammers instead of axes

alpine sage
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btw

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for self cast smite

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is judgement the most reliable way to remove your mana?

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with over 4k mana stacking I'm not sure if maxroll's way is good

slow root
frigid zenith
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I think the biggest culprit is the skill node itself

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1/s is insanely low

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the manual cast version can hit far more often and doublecast

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dunno why the spin version gets gutted so much

wooden mountain
slow root
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Maybe we should bring it to the attention of the devs to get some buffs ?

wooden mountain
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good luck

slow root
#

It's really sad that something as obviously cool as smite warpath paladin isn't at least a meta contender

wooden mountain
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multismite is a pretty good melee triggered smite build

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best as VK rather than paladin though

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echoes are very strong for it

slow root
#

That would be the self-harm dark smites ?

wooden mountain
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well it casts so many smites you can't really afford to entirely disregard the life cost but it loses healing

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multi-smite is definitely the most smites you can get per second but it's stuck in melee and not the tankiest build, also spends a lot of mana

slow root
#

Maybe i'll just go out of my comfort zone and try xylem smite

daring lark
#

Can I have sealed and a primordial sealed affix on the same item?

wooden mountain
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yes but you only have so much FP to craft with so getting, say, a 4xT5, T8, T1-2 sealed is tough

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even worse if you want T7 3T5 / T8 T1

daring lark
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The last havoc costed me 18 FP ffs

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So I'm confused what to do

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Reckon I seal the poison resist and try and get t1/t2 health flat?

wooden mountain
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idk tbh

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man vortex pennant sucks, 1 axe per second plus 1 per 500% increased phys

daring lark
#

I ended up using all the FP sealing it lol

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If you get 1lp from nemesis, can empowering it turn to 2lp?

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Or am I tripping?

pure hill
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yes it can

daring lark
#

Oh, I thought it was either 1lp or higher on the first egg...

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Thanks

pure hill
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It is that too. Each empower can add any amount of LP using the normal LP chances.

daring lark
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I meant, on first egg try I get 1lp, can I reempower it to try and get more?

pure hill
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yes

daring lark
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Okay

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That's news to me, Thank you!

wooden monolith
frigid zenith
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1st empo is limited to 3LP I think

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then again even if it weren't, we'd probably never see LP4 in 1st empo

pure hill
#

Is brutality bugged or something? becasue it says it is capped at 20. 20% more damage doesn't seem likeit would be op to me lol

frigid zenith
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20% per str

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er wait

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20 mana

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20 mana * 0.02% per str

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the cap is on the effect/manacost only

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it then scales infinitely with str

pure hill
#

I see.

south ledge
#

that T8 roll Facepalm

quaint hearth
frigid zenith
#

do you actually need exulis tho

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can slowly try getting a T7mana nihilis with brutality corrupt

wooden monolith
#

I mean corrupt all your idols

wooden mountain
quaint hearth
frigid zenith
#

RIP

wooden monolith
frigid zenith
#

I need to corrupt ~19 swordcatchers to get my rive weapon done but first I need to get them to LP2, reroll the affix and then successfully slam it omegalul

daring lark
#

They need to reduce the FP requirements

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It makes end game crafting really bad

visual kayak
#

As a warpath build with around 1000% increased void damage and 400% crit multi, would adding a crit multi or increased void damage t7 slam benefit me more? Any easy way to figure stuff like this out?

buoyant ginkgo
#

Yes, maths

visual kayak
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and the easy part? šŸ™‚

wooden monolith
#

Offline mod, you test both gear on dummies

buoyant ginkgo
#

1140x4 Or 1000x4,58, assuming you have 100% Crit chance

wooden monolith
austere frost
frigid zenith
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but the slam is too much šŸ’€

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basically need to triple it again

austere frost
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2l slam yeah hard to pull ,getting the firge weapons mod would be huge

frigid zenith
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thinking that I should probably drop it to LP1+corrupt but it's such a large decrease

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I don't know if I'm mathing it right

wooden monolith
austere frost
#

This whole corruption scam would be way better if you had a lot of stuff to corrupt not julra

frigid zenith
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with just the node in the tree (16%) I can get like 20 stacks of heated metal

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with 62% can I get 60-70 stacks

austere frost
frigid zenith
#

if it can indeed get 60 stacks that's 180%more damage, maybe worth dropping the lp2 slam

austere frost
#

If you go double combo you need to lean into that

austere frost
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Which is a damm shame

frigid zenith
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😭

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guess I'll do that and just slowly work my way back to LP2, and hope for a miracle

austere frost
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Imagine t7 flat t7 increase t7 forge weapons mod go bonk uber in 40 seconds wouldn't that feel great

frigid zenith
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I just hope I'm not miscalculating how big the forge weapon effect will be

austere frost
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But hey no you dont get amazing gear progression

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Also you gotta go big rampancy with rive

frigid zenith
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yeah it's insane

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just swapping my belt for the berserker belt + rampancy amulet made my damage in uber go zoom zoom

austere frost
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The resist kinda suck that was the thing i couldn't fit in but for uber poison is not necessary

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So only cover necrotic

frigid zenith
#

my survivability is dying tho omegalul

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EHP took a nosedive

austere frost
#

Need those t7 increase mods

austere frost
#

Of course thats my motto

austere frost
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Kinda sucks I dont have a 3t7 rive chest so far

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Good thing about frenzy belt 2-3 lp are pretty ez to get so just gotta get double hp affix on it

frigid zenith
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for 1LP the increased void damage probably better yeah

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I think we've got so many flat now that the increased should scale more

wooden monolith
#

Maybe i am doing something wrong, but when i go rampancy and try to compensate the hp and resist loss, i have no dps increase on rive

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Tested with and without rampancy, my ua kill time is exactly the same

austere frost
#

I could try putting the gear on another character later

crude matrixBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 5,396, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 1,728.12, Regen: 13.12/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 64 Str / 13 Dex / 13 Int / 18 Att / 50 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 88% / 67% / 76% / 74% / 82% / 80% / 94%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 1,367
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 7% (205)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 77% (9,505)

wooden monolith
#

Actualy, i have to get rid of the pyramidal to get some resist back, it cancels the dps increase

austere frost
wooden monolith
#

I have tested with frenzy crown, and less than 100 rampancy, with the gear i can get (no 2t7 anymore)

velvet swallow
#

Hey Sentinels!

So I tried Void Knight, again. Love Warpath except for one thing, mana issue. I have 679 Mana and I'm still struggling.

Besides removing points in "Warrior's Fury", what can be done to remove the escalating mana issue? Is there nothing else I can do?

austere frost
austere frost
wooden monolith
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With and without rampancy

crude matrixBOT
#
Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (83)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,166, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 192.51, Regen: 10.56/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 22%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 43 Str / 23 Dex / 11 Int / 11 Att / 112 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 77% / 69% / 79% / 67% / 85% / 57% / 101%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 841
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 9% (262)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,558)

austere frost
#

You need the combo to make it work,rive can't use brutality but rampancy belt yes

frigid zenith
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btw do you need T8 manacost helmet for warpath

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if not, rampancy warpath sounds like it could be nice

wooden monolith
frigid zenith
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nope

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well, we barely use mana anyway

austere frost
#

Do you prefer abyssal echoes vs sigil of hope

wooden monolith
visual kayak
#

@velvet swallow dont know if this is the best way but with Abyssal Juggernaut and the cooldown reduction nodes in devouoring orb skill tree you should be fine with around 950 mana total for 5 points in warrior fury, maybe works with 4 points in warriors fury at your current mana

frigid zenith
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I never not have mana to cast them

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enough mana for double cleave traversal with darkstride for mapping too

velvet swallow
frigid zenith
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RIP T1

wooden monolith
austere frost
wooden monolith
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Udgard, you want melee void

frigid zenith
#

do we really want melee void more

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the increase is like almost 400 alone, and our other source of increase is probably around that much also

austere frost
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You got no idol altar udgar

frigid zenith
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flat we already got like 500 from other sources

frigid zenith
austere frost
#

OK that should boost you quite a bit

frigid zenith
#

bruh there's a 3 forged/2s cap Facepalm

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neither letools or tunklab showed this part

austere frost
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No they don't 🤣

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Ingame it says?

frigid zenith
#

yeah, it's in that screenshot I sent

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I got bamboozled šŸ˜‚

austere frost
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OK yeah not that great

frigid zenith
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well, it stacks the stack faster I guess

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but stack cap isn't super different

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on dummy after a while I peak at 20 stacks without it, peak at 30-32 stack with that T1

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I imagine it won't actually be higher even with T7 due to the proc cap

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still ~20% increase at cap, and faster ramp up, but probably not worth dropping the 2T7

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the crit multi one might not be worse at all

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or even the AoE one, 90% area sounds juicy

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or the frenzy ones so I don't have to suffer trying to get the frenzy corrupt on a good shattered worlds šŸ’€

austere frost
#

It would be worth getting another t7 corrupt instead

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I love how EHG loves proc rate caps thus killing some builds items etc

frigid zenith
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rip insta-phasing uber with rive dream

quaint hearth
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not that bad

velvet swallow
visual kayak
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@velvet swallow Do you have a link to planner? i went with t7mana+t5 warpath on chest for better result in beginning. could you fit that?

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (25) / Void Knight (51) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,248, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 679.41, Regen: 13.28/s
ā–ø Attributes: 27 Str / 0 Dex / 0 Int / 8 Att / 9 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 135% / 61% / 72% / 55% / 87% / 24% / 24%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 74%, Threshold: 936
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,700)

velvet swallow
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I got boosted so that's why I have low idol slots and lack of extra passives.

frigid zenith
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take out more warrior's fury points in the meantime I guess

visual kayak
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i've switched to this devouring orb setup, now i'm no expert but i've gotten better result

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 4,950, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 1,240.12, Regen: 13.36/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 34%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 53 Str / 17 Dex / 17 Int / 32 Att / 58 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 96% / 78% / 80% / 87% / 100% / 86% / 86%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 1,560
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 3% (68)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,339)

visual kayak
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would still need more mana/channel cost reduction to maintain 5 points

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and pickup the lagon blessing for more mana

velvet swallow
wooden monolith
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Idols

pure hill
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did the patch on thursday fix the bug with warpath?

visual kayak
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yeah, but you're most likely gonna have to stop channeling anyway until you get t8 channel cost

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@pure hill works likle a charm now

velvet swallow
pure hill
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well they also drop randomly from rift beast but that is very rare

visual kayak
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yeah, use rune of evo on a t7 channel cost to upgrade it to t8

polar juniper
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the Ice Bell guys are way overtuned. Judgement paladin nearly untouchable so far and almost got 1-shot by it. like 84 health left.

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How do you get LP on a unique. Can the Egg do it, or does the Egg only add an affix (not LP)

pure hill
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egg can add LP.

small ivy
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Is Holy Aura's Flame Burst working? I'm not seeing anything getting applied or being triggered

waxen nymph
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You dont see the stacks

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And the explosion is pretty quiet

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But it should work

small ivy
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Is this all it is? Is it supposed to look lightningy?

waxen nymph
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It looks Holy yeah

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So yellow light fire ish

small ivy
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Never realized how much naked Sentinels look like Hollowed from DS 😹

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Thanks!

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I was fully expecting a big fiery explosion, a Burst of Flame if you will

velvet swallow
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Hello! šŸ™‚

Besides Warpath. What are some other popular and strong Sentinel builds atm?

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Doesn't need to be a Void Knight, could be Paladin or Forge Guard too, if they have some popular strong builds šŸ™‚

slow root
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Does this build summon forged weapons ? I hate those. Only interested in doing spear and shield casting forge strike and filling mana with vengeance

muted cloud
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Alright, I havent played Senti since like beta, so I guess its time to cook some funny time rot VK and see how it goes... omegalul

muted cloud
waxen nymph
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Judgement Aura

silk wasp
scarlet thistle
velvet swallow
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@muted cloud @waxen nymph @scarlet thistle

Thank you all for your suggestions! I'll take a look at what you suggested right away šŸ‘

polar juniper
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my only char ripped in hc ssf. he was in empowered monos. whats the shortest path for my next char to get to monos?
(just complete a lvl 90 mono?)

worn river
wooden blade
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I've been running a forged strike build myself, built it myself so far, it's been pretty fun. Got the set that increases my stats per forged weapon and that's been making a big difference

velvet swallow
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I just saw a cool shield throwing Forge Guard build. Will probably go that or Judgement Paladin due to how tanky it is.

muted cloud
wooden blade
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damn 6k health? and here I am sitting at 1k

muted cloud
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He has like 5.4k and 2k mana, its most likely boosted by Julra rings

polar juniper
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For the "Riches" nodes on Weaver Tree, if I put unique items in there, does LP matter?
E.G. will putting a 2LP version of a unique give me a better chance of getting LP when the unique drops"?

silk wasp
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Yes

muted cloud
trail lynx
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Wow, the timerot heroes are showing up on the ladder. Let's go team!

maiden palm
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Can someone please explain to me why shield throw time rot does so much damage? The numbers just dont make sense to me. Im running a time rot warpath build with warriors fury, which is great, running over 1000c, but the fact shield throw could do many, many times the ST damage is beyond me.

scarlet thistle
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Lot's of "more" multipliers on shield throw

maiden palm
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But there isn't. Warpath has more with warriors fury

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14x multipliers on Warpath. Shield throw doesnt have that

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Warriors fury is 1000% and the other node in WP is 40%

silk wasp
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Warrior's Fury doesn't affect anything but Warpath damage

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WP is spaghetti coded nonsense

maiden palm
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Thats wrong

austere frost
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Time rot has way more modifiers than warpath ,bigger in fact

waxen nymph
austere frost
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Warpath tr sucks no?

maiden palm
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Warriors fury 100% effects ailments

waxen nymph
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Thats what they dont understand

austere frost
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Any dot warpath build sucks imo

waxen nymph
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I have to say I am not sure

austere frost
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Maybe one day its not thr case

waxen nymph
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Because 5/5 Warrior Fury is 1000% MoreDmg

austere frost
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For now,you wanna do bleed you go multistrike,you wanna do ignite you go vengeance,you wanna do electrify javelin

maiden palm
austere frost
maiden palm
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Same

austere frost
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You can try time rot vk warpath and go kill uber with it I am waiting with popcorn that video please do so

waxen nymph
wooden monolith
waxen nymph
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Maybe its the faster apply rate ?

maiden palm
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Don't posture at me. Im just asking a simple question

waxen nymph
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And the fact you can use Anomaly ??

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I guess you can use instant cast anomaly

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For Wp

maiden palm
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I use anomaly

waxen nymph
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Instant Cast I suppose ?

maiden palm
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Correct

waxen nymph
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Maybe your gear is worse than what you can see in like Mistia's video ?

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Mind sharing a planner ?

wooden mountain
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since when did warrior's fury work for ailments?

waxen nymph
crimson crystal
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4.2

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (15) / Forge Guard (56) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,269, Regen: 196.78/s
ā–ø Mana: 265.97, Regen: 9.92/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 28%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 80 Str / 14 Dex / 14 Int / 56 Att / 19 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 142% / 70% / 117% / 92% / 52% / 115% / 57%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 1,092
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 2% (56)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 64% (4,856)
ā–ø Block Chance: 12%, Mitigation: 23% (330)

wooden mountain
waxen nymph
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Let me roll a dice and anwser your question

maiden palm
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I dont think its a matter of gear tbh

waxen nymph
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Ah it appears only the left part of the subskill are affected from the first to the 15th of each month

waxen nymph
maiden palm
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I will change to Shield throw later with my current gear and report the results

waxen nymph
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But there isnt any subkill in Warpath isnt it ?

waxen nymph
maiden palm
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I dont mind at all. Im not near the pc, but will post it up a bit later

waxen nymph
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Online ?

maiden palm
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Yeah. Can I do it on the phone?

waxen nymph
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just need your account name

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And letools can find them for you

maiden palm
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Oh true

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Didn't realise

wooden monolith
waxen nymph
maiden palm
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Sec

wooden monolith
maiden palm
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Pretty sure its just Bigdoodle

waxen nymph
crimson crystal
maiden palm
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Try Chevwah

waxen nymph
maiden palm
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Thats him

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Gear has a bit to go, but I wouldnt think I could do 10x the damage by changing to ST

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Doesn't make sense

austere frost
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Do you wanna know why doing warpath is way way worse than shield throw time rot

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Because with warpath you have to use a lot of gear affixes for mana

waxen nymph
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WEll the problem is you dont have 5/5 in Warrior fury

austere frost
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In order to sustain warrior fury

waxen nymph
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So thats 200% More Dmg missing

austere frost
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Thus killing your scaling

waxen nymph
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And as Jellal says youll have to get mana, where you could get TR Chances

maiden palm
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Yeah that's all true I suppose. Opportunity cost and all

austere frost
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So that wouldn't make much sense and since you dont want to be using world splitter for time rot its creates very weird gear choices

maiden palm
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Still a fun build, but I will change to ST and give it a whirl

wooden monolith
austere frost
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St already has like idk 5 more damage sources in its tree which as we all know the more modifiers you have the stronger you are

maiden palm
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It has 3 I think

austere frost
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Like you have 1 single modifier of 100% more damage and I have 3 modifiers of 30 % each i am beting that 100 easy

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No

austere frost
maiden palm
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It has 150, 75, and 15 yeah?

waxen nymph
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And 100% Because you take the extra cooldown

austere frost
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It has the idk what 15,then it has the 100,then the 75,?then 150,

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Then colossus should convert another 40 pen

maiden palm
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Yep, missed that one

austere frost
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Not sure about the fire pen and fire throw but if it does another 20 pen

maiden palm
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So its only 10x multiplier. WP has 14x

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Anyway, I'll give ST a go. Thanks for your help

austere frost
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Warpath has only 2 more that apply and no its not likr that at all

maiden palm
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Explain it to me

austere frost
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If you want a melee skill that if stuff was working well could do more dps than st timerot ,erasing strike is the choice

maiden palm
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If stuff was working is probably the key phrase there.

austere frost
maiden palm
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I'm not worried about the gearing, yes I have played WP. Im just concerned about the maths.

austere frost
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The math's are pretty simple if you ask me

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You need t8 channel to do warrior fury 5/5

waxen nymph
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The biggest problem is you wont be able to scale Rot Grip as much

wooden monolith
waxen nymph
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Because youll have to invest so much in getting your 5/5 WF constant

austere frost
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Then you still need over like 1.2 k mana

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Not sure how warpath is gonna do 10x the damage than st is gonna do when you have to do all this

maiden palm
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I understand all that, preaching to the converted at this point.