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toxic canyon
nope its gone xD
it got locked somehow, i couldnt open it "on the other side"
GG
alpine canopy
See here
vestal mirage
Surely next season there won't be major bugs anymore :clueless:
Only one I've had so far is the "echo is already open" when trying to start an echo
Waiting on the dread breakdown where he says he's quitting again because bugs
toxic canyon
prolly had 10bugs but nothing like this
quiet hearth
always gonna have bugs sadly
toxic canyon
its been great fun tho, (my corrupt luck is bad tho) :D
gusty abyss
This having 9.5 instead of 6s cooldown is one I run into every 6s xD
silk wasp
Saaaame
urban phoenix
If i applied this affix from primalist to a unique, would the unique get the primalist requirement?
vestal mirage
Unfortunate
silk wasp
Yes
vestal mirage
Maybe the slam failed so badly that le didnt want you to see it
alpine sage
@manic cradle ok I tested the lava fg vs maxroll paladin version
with maximal gear
lava fg is way stronger and paladin is not even close
but harder to achieve such strength realistically
since you need to stack endurance a lot
and you are right about 5 large idols is better than throne
vestal mirage
How much threshold does your theory character have rn
alpine sage
How much threshold does your theory character have rn
what threshold?
vestal mirage
Endurance
You said you had to stack endurance a lot so I assumed that includes pretty high endurance threshold
alpine sage
295% endurance
vestal mirage
Holy
alpine sage
endurance gives block
quiet hearth
I was about to say, I have bad news about that endurance
alpine sage
block gives more shield throw dmg
vestal mirage
What are you using to convert that endurance to block?
alpine sage
I was about to say, I have bad news about that endurance
what news?
alpine sage
What are you using to convert that endurance to block?
face of the mountain
quiet hearth
Taht endurance had a cap, but I see what you're doing now.
alpine sage
the build also has 5 insanely op large idols and the pyre of affliction axe that gives good fork chance and spell damage
vestal mirage
Do you have a planner? Just out of curiosity
alpine sage
hmm might send tomorrow
since for planner I need to adjust the corruption affixes
and I'm about to sleep now
I use the le mod for testing
vestal mirage
That's fair, gn
alpine sage
and currently if I upload my character to le tool the corrupted affixes wont appear
vestal mirage
All good, I was just curious
orchid flint
vestal mirage
Hell yeah
slate solar
Looking at making a voidknight using smite
Should i get both the void node and the passive to turn it into void or just the passive?
vestal mirage
Another void caster has joined the cult 
orchid flint
play erasing strike isteand. big purple bonk
quiet hearth
oh yeah, time for that melee runemaster?
viral osprey
Is there a mixed build for Void Knight? I don't like spin to win but I really like the rive and there isn't much build on YouTube for S4 yet
vestal mirage
What kind of mixed build are you looking for
There's a couple builds that proc smite off of other things. Like multistrike smite
Hammer smite
viral osprey
I'm currently running a combination of Void Cleave, Echoabyssal for debuff and Erasing Strike for nuke, Rive is sustaining but it deal so much dmg tho ...
soft mason
its terrible, go ahead and send that one over to me for disposal.
vestal mirage
Understandable
viral osprey
What was it b4 you do this tho 🤣
I brick so many so far but that is the best part, the dopamine hit when they hit the best results
main musk
What was it b4 you do this tho 🤣
"Finally bought my spirit xylem" 🙂
viral osprey
"Finally bought my spirit xylem" 🙂
I'm sorry I just barely start and I don't even know what is that lol
lament fox
no longer snapshot with active jurla ring?
quasi totem
How is reflect paladin doing this season? All I seem to be able to find info on is reflect shaman.
alpine canopy
no longer snapshot with active jurla ring?
All its stats (which would include everything on Julra's stardial) are only calculated at the moment you use judgment
lament fox
so its moslly waste to use them
sharp osprey
Is there a mixed build for Void Knight? I don't like spin to win but I really li...
The game doesn't change too much. Looking at older builds and checking the patch notes for nerfs goes very far
mint rock
same thing that was OP 4 years ago is still OP today
vestal mirage
they did make some stuff more viable than it used to be like void AE hit but it's still not nearly as op as the main builds
unless I'm just building it incorrectly
viral osprey
You can still put point into other sub mastery aside from your main mastery?
vestal mirage
You can. Just not the right half of the talents
You're limited to just the left half
viral osprey
This game depth is inane
fringe barn
Running a variation of spin to win this time around, and odd enough, Jormund's set is wheeling and dealing for me.
as well as keeping me alive
viral osprey
Is there a way to respec skill specialized faster? Idk why they make it like this, making it harder to trying out stuff
fringe barn
I don't believe so
you do get a boost though, which you can level fairly quickly in a couple emp mono's
viral osprey
vestal mirage
He's talking about re-leveling skills after making changes. It scales with your level so once you're like 90+ it's a couple monos at most to get all your points back
viral osprey
So I'm barely 68 rn, should I just respec them anyway?
fringe barn
I think I've went from the low to max in like 4-5 mono's, one of them being an xp reward mono, full stability
vestal mirage
Honestly probably wouldn't bother messing with respeccing much until you're higher level, unless it's a vital change. Takes much longer to get the points at your level
viral osprey
Aw ok tysm
crimson mist
why does maxroll's erasing strike guide uses falcon fists on gloves? am i missing the point of it?
waxen nymph
AS
vestal mirage
what build have you been playing vlad
keen bobcat
i shouldnt spec erasing strike until i get the axe right
fringe barn
That on top of melee fire damage being converted to void if I'm not mistaken
orchid flint
i shouldnt spec erasing strike until i get the axe right
no i leveled with it felt good still
you can use shadow beacon or apathy's maw and it will still feel good leveling. just spec rive for single target and you're good
pearl jasper
i shouldnt spec erasing strike until i get the axe right
bro, i killed the boss over 20 times in 200 corr and still haven't droped that axe (black sun)
vestal mirage
the harbi?
keen bobcat
damn
pearl jasper
yes
vestal mirage
it shouldnt be that rare
keen bobcat
im sure to get 2lp first try then
orchid flint
they're really cheap in mg
pearl jasper
im COF
vestal mirage
do you have rank 10 yet
orchid flint
just bought mine and then nemsis it gave me 93 flat melee void
vestal mirage
that helps a toooon with boss drops
pearl jasper
rank 9 rn
fringe barn
My plan was to run spin2win until I drop that axe, but I'm still on 125 corruption trying to get pieces for this build. I'm probably well over taking my time this season.
pearl jasper
whats the fastest way to level COF rank
vestal mirage
the shrine echo strat
fringe barn
Oh, I never thought of the shrine echo strat... got a vid or guide? I know you can run shrines with the node for favor, never thought of the weaver map for it.
vestal mirage
put a map in the middle (i dont remember the name) that boosts surrounding echoes with weaver mobs. surround said echo with shrine echoes, then run the booster first and then the shrine maps
fringe barn
put a map in the middle (i dont remember the name) that boosts surrounding echoe...
Guess I could have waited a second 😄
vestal mirage
lol all good
it's insane for xp/favor but it can get boring after a while
I did a lot of it this season and I'm already almost lvl 100
fringe barn
I used to run the weaver map that spreads during the weaver season and it got boring REALLY quick.
young tree
I used to run the weaver map that spreads during the weaver season and it got bo...
that's the one
spread weaver packs trough temple for more favour
fringe barn
Yeah, name has left me though. I do remember getting to rank 10 fairly quickly. I'm not sure if rank 11 and 12 were added at the time, but I did max COF that season.
Has there always been rank 11 and 12 for cof?
young tree
ye
but u also gain a lot of cof xp from spending favour
don't sit on it, spam prophecies asap
vestal mirage
I got to rank 12 in the first few days just from that strat. It's a little too good. Can only do it for like an hour at a time before I need to do something else tho
Can only clear the same map over and over again for so long before I go insane
fringe barn
I had a nice strat for prophecies from last year, not sure if it's still great to use but I still use it:
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vestal mirage
ye it's still good. I do the same except I swap the last lense out for the one that makes it cost more but give more items
fringe barn
Oh thats actually good, I've never tried that. I'll give that a go now, have about 50k to spend
quiet hearth
time for that melee electrify
keen bobcat
should i level with leveling guide judgement or just do void for erasing strike end goal
quiet hearth
level with whatever really
fringe barn
Just my opinion, but erasing strike is very hard to level with without the right pieces because of the mana drain. You'll get stuck early emp monos quickly.
So yeah, level until you get the right pieces
misty thistle
Should I slam 35% attack speed onto LP1 or since left corrupted max rolls, wait until I get T7?
quiet hearth
You're not really leveling in emp monos
keen bobcat
what r u doing lol
quiet hearth
they are lvl 100 zones, you're usually pretty close to level cap by the time you get there unless you're just zooming
fringe barn
I feel like you are, no? I hit empowered mono's at level 65 with how it works now
vestal mirage
I always level in emp monos
fringe barn
before you had to complete all monos before even getting to empowered, so it worked well. Now you only have to complete - 5?
vestal mirage
this time around I did emp monos from 70 to 100
keen bobcat
every season i level in emp...usually get to it by 60
vestal mirage
is there any way to target farm specific idol altars
I need a pyramid one but every pyramid altar I've gotten has been bad
quiet hearth
I think Ive seen one pyramid altar
vestal mirage
yeeeeeeeah
pine jacinth
is there any way to target farm specific idol altars
You can just run omen chains and whenever you get the chance, use your timeglass to spawn more omen chains
But pyramids are def super rare
vestal mirage
I've got over 200 of that currency saved up so I could definitely do that
might do that when I get home
does every build want a good pyramid
fringe barn
If that dropped with double T7 on mana, it'd be insane to use
soft mason
they are lvl 100 zones, you're usually pretty close to level cap by the time you...
pretty sure i hit monos at 43 and then cruised to empowered monos by 55. didnt start pushing corruption until 70+ though - maybe it depends on builds and gear
vestal mirage
can I have that helm
fringe barn
If there was a way to trade, I'd do it in a heart beat... other than using those coop shards lol
but I think you'd have to have been there when it dropped, right?
keen bobcat
i dont even understand that ability lol
vestal mirage
ye I was mostly joking. I need a unique helm anyways
gusty abyss
but I think you'd have to have been there when it dropped, right?
resonance does not require you to have been there, because if you where there, you could just gift it for free
fringe barn
For erasing strike, it has a chance to echo, this increases the damage of that echo when it slams over and over again
Ahhhh right. Even playing maps with my buddy, we've only gotten a couple of that resonance to drop.
abstract obsidian
Should I slam 35% attack speed onto LP1 or since left corrupted max rolls, wait ...
Just slam the t7. You'll be using it for a long time anyways
misty thistle
its only T6 i have right now
abstract obsidian
Slam it regardless, don't forget to imprint
vestal mirage
does the increased effect of prefixes/suffixes thing apply to resistances on idols?
abstract obsidian
I used a t6 atk spd on my graver for a long time
misty thistle
Is imprint new? or am i being dumb
abstract obsidian
Is imprint new? or am i being dumb
Weaver tree
vestal mirage
it's a few seasons old at this point I think
misty thistle
Oh yeah I got it in
vestal mirage
or was that just last season
misty thistle
and my wing guards
pine jacinth
does the increased effect of prefixes/suffixes thing apply to resistances on ido...
Should apply to everything on them (altho dk if weaver enchants count)
vestal mirage
it feels like forever ago
misty thistle
yeah i've played last 3 seasons
First time going judgement after campaign
man, took me 2 days to get a unique
was rough as
for the build
keen bobcat
the system is getting as little ocmplex lol
abstract obsidian
and my wing guards
Farm wing guards using prophecies, the other imprint slots are hot garbage rn with the nerfs
I did the exact same route you did
vestal mirage
thought I could be cheeky and put an omnividence in my tree and get passive staffs
misty thistle
Put sword into both?
vestal mirage
that did not work
abstract obsidian
Put sword in the one that says "item drops from normal enemies"
misty thistle
oh yeah
abstract obsidian
The other imprint slots, once that drop from caches etc aren't exactly great, maybe not even working
pine jacinth
The other imprint slots, once that drop from caches etc aren't exactly great, ma...
Ive definitely had cache drops work when farming a sword
misty thistle
yeah noticed that
I got my wing guards, then midnight ring 1LP after so its coming together
need to learn mechanics for that soul bastion fight
abstract obsidian
Ive definitely had cache drops work when farming a sword
Right, after the nerfs the drop rates got hit quite hard
pine jacinth
Right, after the nerfs the drop rates got hit quite hard
Last season i played was before imprints so it doesnt bother me lmao
misty thistle
going for shield just now
abstract obsidian
I got my wing guards, then midnight ring 1LP after so its coming together
Lol soul bastion is easy. Portal charm to boss, swap the protection shield aura to green when he does the wave attack and you're good
fringe barn
Where are you guys finding +level relics... I feel like nothing drops.
abstract obsidian
Where are you guys finding +level relics... I feel like nothing drops.
Havoc them
pine jacinth
If your build can do 300 corr you shouldnt have trouble with any dungeons
misty thistle
that was funny, the SECOND you wrote soul bastion
fringe barn
Havoc them
I was afraid that'd be the response. I've failed so many times lol
pine jacinth
I was afraid that'd be the response. I've failed so many times lol
Are you doing the correct havoc tech where all affixes except the t7 are the same?
abstract obsidian
I was afraid that'd be the response. I've failed so many times lol
It's luck at this point, push corruption and you will get +levels relics eventually
fringe barn
Are you doing the correct havoc tech where all affixes except the t7 are the sam...
yeah, I'm just unlucky and it moves to the wrong spot 😄
abstract obsidian
Are you doing the correct havoc tech where all affixes except the t7 are the sam...
When I can.. Sometimes the affixes come in different tiers 3/4/5 and it gets iffy
pine jacinth
yeah, I'm just unlucky and it moves to the wrong spot 😄
Ahh just bad rng then. Im getting a ton of havocs from timebeasts
abstract obsidian
That's how u should farm them
Runes > everything else
The rune that allows you to reroll exalted affixes is complete garbage tho
pine jacinth
That's how u should farm them
Its convenient cause im lookimg for a 2lp legends entwined anyway
pine jacinth
The rune that allows you to reroll exalted affixes is complete garbage tho
Yeah i havent found a good use for them, you would need a really good item where the t7 is wrong and that feels so unlikely - plus the t7s you want are usually the uncommon affixes anyway
abstract obsidian
Its convenient cause im lookimg for a 2lp legends entwined anyway
Havoc runes are such a precious commodity in this economy
abstract obsidian
Yeah i havent found a good use for them, you would need a really good item where...
Yeah, I spent 60 so far to reroll my t7s and got NOTHING
vestal mirage
Can I trade in my useless shatter runes for havocs pls
fringe barn
Corruption on set items is funny af. I love how it changes the pictures. You guys do a T3 Omen yet in higher corruption? I've done the T2's and with this build it's hit or miss, but I have a Pinnacle of Chaos up right now that's just ungodly (I can't beat it)
pine jacinth
Corruption on set items is funny af. I love how it changes the pictures. You guy...
Ive done t3 omens all the time in mine
vestal mirage
I do t3 all the time as well
I have enough hp and leech that it's fine
Still spooky tho
that poison is no joke
abstract obsidian
I'm running judgement pally and even I am scared
fringe barn
My poison res is finally up enough that I don't die instantly. They seem easy when they don't drop the slugs on you lol
vestal mirage
sentinel fares pretty well against it
pine jacinth
Being able to leech your entire health bar multiple times a second helps xD
pine jacinth
crazy that this is all the leech you really need <:omegalul:570776988327870475>
Im on the anomaly time bubble 2% leech + 200% leech rate
pine jacinth
Still need to get experimental ward on my gloves so my leeches dont drop off
vestal mirage
I'm debating on going for the crab ring + tundra helm and ditching evade. but I spam evade so much that I feel like I might hate it idk
the ms it gives should make it worth it
pine jacinth
I'm debating on going for the crab ring + tundra helm and ditching evade. but I ...
Isnt the other ring just better? Forgotten flame or w/e its called
vestal mirage
midnight flame?
pine jacinth
Thats the one
vestal mirage
Feel like I'd still like crab ring more but idk. I'll try both
misty thistle
Twisted heart best defensively, then obviously Shattered worlds
pine jacinth
Feel like I'd still like crab ring more but idk. I'll try both
Mmm, didnt realize it was all attributes and a vit base ring. Yeah probably better
vestal mirage
It's pretty solid if you can give up your evade
very easy to get lp on too if I remember correctly
pine jacinth
Im on legends entwined so i wouldnt have a red ring if i went crab, but i also dont have a red ring yet sooo xD
vestal mirage
I don't either
I need my phantom ring with t7 crit to cap crit tho
so my only kinda flexible ring slot would be crab ring
pine jacinth
I need my phantom ring with t7 crit to cap crit tho
3lp is totally doable on crab tho
tawdry oasis
@manic cradle does ring of shields not mess up your lava burst overlaps? i noticed that if i have just the guardian up itll go from boss-guardian-boss but if i put up shields itll do boss-guardian-shield and lower the damage considerably
fringe barn
crazy that this is all the leech you really need <:omegalul:570776988327870475>
I have some crazy leech, but I might try a point in each of those. I don't have enough health yet atm. I'm not tanky at all.
vestal mirage
grips is also pretty realistic to get 3lp on. just pray it's 3lp AND +2%
pine jacinth
grips is also pretty realistic to get 3lp on. just pray it's 3lp AND +2%
Were probly not the same build cause im time rot DO lol
vestal mirage
yeeee
I'm echoes crit hit
basically the same as the maxroll version volca made with some small changes
pine jacinth
basically the same as the maxroll version volca made with some small changes
Erasing strike?
vestal mirage
abyssal echoes
pine jacinth
O didnt know people did damage with echoes interesting
vestal mirage
they buffed it this season
potent corruption was buffed from 20 to 60 spell damage and it went from 100 effectiveness to 300
so it's decent now
main musk
I'm sorry I just barely start and I don't even know what is that lol
It's all good. Spirit Xylem is a Unique item you can buy from last season's vendor. I assume it's a build-enabling weapon which was very needed for their build. And you buy these special uniques using "bones" currency that you have to farm up for a while. P.S. didn't mean to come off rude btw.
vestal mirage
I'm gonna have to farm out another of the idol relics because I put cast speed into mine instead of crit multi
oops
quasi totem
How is reflect paladin doing this season? All I seem to be able to find info on is reflect shaman.
pine jacinth
potent corruption was buffed from 20 to 60 spell damage and it went from 100 eff...
Nicee, have you done uberroth? Thats what im worried about on current build
Allie doesnt seem to think you can do uber at a w/ it
vestal mirage
Nicee, have you done uberroth? Thats what im worried about on current build
I'm struggling to figure out if it can be scaled enough for uber. It might take some godly items, idk
polar spire
I'm running judgement pally and even I am scared
i miss the old judgement pally
vestal mirage
right now I'm killing normal abby in like 1:30 and my gear is still kinda mid
pine jacinth
right now I'm killing normal abby in like 1:30 and my gear is still kinda mid
130 is what im.told is the benchmark to have the dps for uberroth so idk
abstract obsidian
right now I'm killing normal abby in like 1:30 and my gear is still kinda mid
I'm taking like 5-6mins for a kill with 2lp rings and 1lp t7 slams on all my gear
vestal mirage
is 1:30 including the 2 mini bosses beforehand
pine jacinth
is 1:30 including the 2 mini bosses beforehand
No idea, i would assume no
vestal mirage
It's probably a little skewed for me. I played a build last league that killed Uber in 30 seconds
Bear eq go brrrr
Might send some attempts once a get a few more upgrades
fringe barn
I've been rocking this Jormund set, and anything I can replace atm just sucks. I've corrupted all 3 to perfect as well.
I have 2x 2LP Palaris Sacred Light's waiting for items, but I'm not sure if they are going to top this set in terms of damage if not done well. :/
viral osprey
It's all good. Spirit Xylem is a Unique item you can buy from last season's vend...
You good tho, I don't take anything in the internet offensive lol. But ty for the info
icy jay
I've been rocking this Jormund set, and anything I can replace atm just sucks. I...
Which build?
main musk
Alrighty, hacked together a starter version of the spell-casting MA paladin (re-purposed a plaladin from a different build). Now time to complete chapter 10, then go slam a few 1-2lp uniques, and then get to farming for some upgrades, especially in the weapon department. Will see how long I stick with it before jumping on some other new "shiny" lol.
fringe barn
Which build?
Spin2Win lol
I'm just not getting my drops so I've improvised
This set actually helped me stay alive longer in lower corruption
icy jay
I think jormund can be very good for a multistrike build
I would pair it with dat bleed axe
icy jay
Jormund blood + this one
Multistrike also scales on bleed
Would probably go vk for echoes
fringe barn
Oh interesting. I grabbed the Legends Entwined ring to complete a set, but it still counts even if you have the full set. I wonder how well that would work there.
At this point I'm just throwing what I can together and calling it a spin2win build, but I'd bet this would go super well with a multistrike. I'm also inclined to try it out lol
fringe barn
Just dropped that... double T7
hollow spindle
I'm wondering if for Warpath VK dropping abyssal echoes as part of the warpath proc chain, and instead using healing hands with it's passive proc chain may be better in some ways.
fringe barn
And ofc melee healing hands on proc would be a must
I have healing hands proc on smite, but I need my sacred light slams for it :/
silk wasp
HH triggers on use not on hit
gusty abyss
Yeah, HH will trigger once then no more for warpath
hollow spindle
oh. well guess that means healing hands procs are useless for warpath :/
icy jay
HH triggers on use not on hit
For multistrike is 100% proc each melee hit
misty junco
nice
hollow spindle
lucky
hollow spindle
lol what you doing to farm the warpath ranks? Ive got like 12 Titans hearts with 1LP (or more) but found 0 exalted warpaths so far
misty junco
Doing nothing really, just luck
I did find like 2 titan's heart but none of them had LP
pine jacinth
lol what you doing to farm the warpath ranks? Ive got like 12 Titans hearts wit...
Havocs are always the answer
fringe barn
Oh damn, I'm wasting a whole spec for HH when it's not even proccing
misty junco
I forgot what havocs do
hollow spindle
Ive even tried using rune of redemption and rune of havoc shenanigans on Tier7 random affixes with no luck
misty junco
I also don't have a single havoc so lol
hollow spindle
Havoc swaps affix tiers around, redemption re-rolls affixes for exalted tiers
misty junco
ok I see
hollow spindle
so if you get a tier 7 Regeneration affix, but a tier 1 warpath, you use havoc to try to swap their tiers
misty junco
ok so what does redemption do for that?
pine jacinth
Ive even tried using rune of redemption and rune of havoc shenanigans on Tier7 r...
And youre doing havocs correcytly where everything but the t7 is the same tier?
hollow spindle
well i haven't found any warpath skills with an exalted affix on them as well
ive found warpath affixes, but never on anything higher than a tier 5
fringe barn
I don't know where I got this in my head, but HH and Smite don't proc together? Was that changed or am I just getting senile?
pine jacinth
well i haven't found any warpath skills with an exalted affix on them as well
Just get a random t7, craft warpath on it and then shuffle with havoc
hollow spindle
oh derp, how did I not think of that
misty junco
Why is your name familiar, Minerva?
hollow spindle
Minerva is the first name of Professor McGonagal from Harry Potter 🙂
rigid goblet
anyone playing erasing strike? how bad are the mana issues?
pine jacinth
Why is your name familiar, Minerva?
Uhh, I mean Minerva is the name.of a roman goddess, a harry potter character, more lol
misty junco
Oh right
pine jacinth
oh derp, how did I not think of that
Yeh thats how i get t7 hybrid rolls lmao
hollow spindle
Incidentally also my cat's name.
misty junco
lmao
steady bough
erasing strike -2 basic stat for splitter ? 1.melle void d, a 2? pent or increased void dmg ?
pine jacinth
erasing strike -2 basic stat for splitter ? 1.melle void d, a 2? pent or increas...
Wat
misty junco
what are some fast ways to get titan's heart?
hollow spindle
what are some fast ways to get titan's heart?
easiest way is to just do prophecies if you are COF
misty junco
easiest way is to just do prophecies if you are COF
Bet, thanks
hollow spindle
but also ascension runes on any regular chests
pine jacinth
what are some fast ways to get titan's heart?
Its a general drop so any uniqie farm, prophecies, ascendance, echo rewards, etc
hollow spindle
once you get one, imprint it into some of your weaver nodes, and you'll be swimming in them in no time.
pine jacinth
Effect per refracted slot is the best, really depends what your best idol affixes are
vestal mirage
3rd is prob best but that ward is completely useless
pine jacinth
First if you want prefixes, third if you want suffixes
vestal mirage
prefixes
pine jacinth
Unless the flat mana is super needed id go #1 then
vestal mirage
nah it's not
pine jacinth
Also the extra omen idol isnt nothing on #1
vestal mirage
do these omen idols only drop from omens too
realized too late that I haven't been looking for the 3x1 I need
pine jacinth
realized too late that I haven't been looking for the 3x1 I need
Technically yes but the omen mods are available through corruption iirc (also none seem super impactful except bees in a bee build)
vestal mirage
ye I can live without the one I'm looking for specifically but it would be nice to get
cosmic mist
is abberoths command bugged? it doesnt allow void cleave to echo?
icy jay
Are pyramid altars the only good ones?
hollow spindle
no, I think all the altars depend on what idols you are using
icy jay
But pyramid has more refracted slots
pine jacinth
Are pyramid altars the only good ones?
You can make do with others but pyramids seem the most flexible. I remember seeing one of the designs that wouldve been good if you were using all vertical idols. But if you want ornates pyramid is the way to go imo
hollow spindle
pyramids implicit is kinda meh for some builds though (CDR sometimes isn't need as much for some builds)
pine jacinth
pyramids implicit is kinda meh for some builds though (CDR sometimes isn't need ...
You cant get it with stacked ornates anyway as it seems to count the lowest point for vertical idols
So if you put a grand and then 2 ornates on top of each other it turns off
gusty abyss
except for the less damage taken part xD
vestal mirage
nah I'm not using ES
gusty abyss
Than its nice yeah
vestal mirage
I only care about the movement speed and vit
pine jacinth
nah I'm not using ES
Surely you can beat boots with just ms and vit on a good exalt
Hybrid health along would be big
vestal mirage
I need the ms
pine jacinth
I mean, a good base with t7 is only losing 15 ms because the base ms on that is so low
vestal mirage
I'll keep an eye out for a good one ig
pine jacinth
You can also seal a t1 zerrick shard for 5 ms iirc
gusty abyss
if you have haste, vanguard is straight up competitive to unique boots
pine jacinth
That too yeah
vestal mirage
debating on slaming this into my 2lp reliquary and praying it doesn't hit the health regen
also thinking about creationing it
pine jacinth
If you just want it as slam fodder then creation is the right call yeah
Assuming thats perfect for slam
pine jacinth
I might save creations for a perfect t22 tho depending on how many you have
vestal mirage
i just used 1 and still have 8 left
gusty abyss
your CoF, just run some rune of creation prophecies if your low on them, always use on good exalts
pine jacinth
Fair, gives you two shots at the slam
pine jacinth
Honestly legends entwined is such a cool item i just wanna use it for everything
hollow spindle
oh yea that does seem cool
pine jacinth
Kinda falls off just cause abby uniques are that overpowered but if youre building around abby uniques youre good anyway
hollow spindle
yea but now that you can corrupt set items, it gives them some flexibility, I feel like maybe something with invoker set +forgotten knight set+ legends entwined?
or maybe gaspar's set
pine jacinth
yea but now that you can corrupt set items, it gives them some flexibility, I f...
If you just want max sets you can do forgotten knight, kuzon, weaver, and zerricks
pine jacinth
I think dropping kuzon for last bear probably better tho, you give up 1 set on legends for 30 str and some endu threshold
So its 5 attri, 5 all res, and 1skl vs 30 str and some endu
You can also do gaspar for the more damage vs bosses which isnt nothing
Zerricks is also 18% less fire and necrotic at the cost of losing potions, but if youre a leech/regen build youre taking that tradeoff every time
misty thistle
Does this drop at a certain corruption?
in the process of pushing corruption a bit
pine jacinth
Does this drop at a certain corruption?
Twisted heart is a drop from the undead dragon boss
Forget which mono that is
vestal mirage
kinda funny that this chest gives me more hp and damage than the 2nd chest
vit scaling goes crazy
pine jacinth
Just the vit scaling id assume
vestal mirage
ye lmao
pine jacinth
Getting extra health per vit also makes it go kinda hard for hp
vestal mirage
yeah it's insane
hollow spindle
@pine jacinth probably something like this? Though this is dumb and adds in unnecessary greens purely for the lols https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWXO6Ge0
crude matrixBOT
hollow spindle
WOops wrong class
pine jacinth
I mean, youre using set shards and not actual sets lmao
hollow spindle
yea but that just removes part of the fun, not to mention some of the items lose a little bit of power
pine jacinth
Theres no way a set piece beats a t22 exalt with a sealed set shard
vestal mirage
whoa
hollow spindle
Theres no way a set piece beats a t22 exalt with a sealed set shard
never said it did
fringe barn
something hit finally... probably wanted something else, but this replaces Jormunds feast well
pine jacinth
never said it did
O i see. Practically speaking you probably want unique gloves on most builds as well as unique relic
hollow spindle
yea now that Im playing around, I may do a challenge run of only set items on a new paladin character
(with legends entwined as the only unique) i dunno
pine jacinth
If youre just min maxing sets kuzon as helm is a 2 piece
But if you want actual stats out of it last bear is better lmao
hollow spindle
yea but is the 30 strength on the 3rd tier set bonus worth it?
pine jacinth
yea but is the 30 strength on the 3rd tier set bonus worth it?
Depends what you get out of str i suppose
hollow spindle
God ...now Im thinking about my season 1 chaos magic runemaster build, that was so much fun.
pine jacinth
God ...now Im thinking about my season 1 chaos magic runemaster build, that was ...
I really want runemaster to actually do the invoker thing but have yet to see that be done
hollow spindle
invoker thing? as in the actual set. or something else
pine jacinth
invoker thing? as in the actual set. or something else
The dota character invoker - which is what runemasters rune system is based on
fringe barn
Where do I go for the primal vendor?
Rift beast portal
hollow spindle
oh never knew that
pine jacinth
oh never knew that
Essentially he has 3 runes which he combines as a 'password' for 10 different spells, each spell being meaningfully different
main musk
It ain't much, but it's honest work.
pine jacinth
Whereas the runemaster now is usually 'pick a spell and invoke it over and over'
hollow spindle
yea im familiar with the concept, though didn't know it was called invoker. I played Magicka on Steam which is pretty similar
pine jacinth
yea im familiar with the concept, though didn't know it was called invoker. I p...
Ahh yeah. Dotas invoker is the oldest version of the concept ive seen, hes iconic for a reason
Anyway, i wish runemaster delivered on the fantasy meaningfully but youre much more encouraged to just pick one spell and spam the invokes for that one thing
hollow spindle
You should try this build. It hasn't been updated in 2 years, so it will probably do slightly better and needs some serious optimizing, but if any season will work its this season!
crude matrixBOT
hollow spindle
Also I kinda hate builds that use mad alchemists ladle, it feels like a lazy unique so I usually try something else
pine jacinth
Also I kinda hate builds that use mad alchemists ladle, it feels like a lazy uni...
What are you casting with invoke? Just whatever?
hollow spindle
yup its a wild magic build, literally "random bullshit go" build lol
pine jacinth
Interesting. I kinda wanted to see if i could make something like that work with just generic scaling like that
Gonna be my second build after devouring orb is done
hollow spindle
i mean it definitely worked at release, but other things changed and other builds kinda beat it out on corruption (i think runemaster also got a slight nerf around then too?)
but now with all the new stuff in the game I feel like it could get another pass with all the new/updated gear
especialy the invoker set shards
vestal mirage
why do I do this to myself
pine jacinth
i mean it definitely worked at release, but other things changed and other build...
I mean its meant to be a fun build for sure
urban phoenix
Man, Melee area not affecting the MA sweep attack, but regular Area affecting it is a bit of a buzzkill.
pine jacinth
Did some more looking at idol altar layouts. If you care about boosting your ornates (which i think most builds are minmaxing) then pyramidal is just the best. You get 3 boosted ornates, a boosted grand, and either a boosted omen or 2x1
Alternately you can get 6 boosted 2x1s or 5 boosted grands, which is just the strongest possible altar for every idol type
vestal mirage
dont think I've ever hit the outer limit like this before lol
gusty abyss
You should always branch out with your woven echo's, more stability the further out you are
pine jacinth
How are you replacing everything with woven echos?
vestal mirage
you can place them at a cemetary at the end
at the big machine thing in the center of the room
pine jacinth
at the big machine thing in the center of the room
Domt you run out of them eventually?
vestal mirage
nah you should have more than enough amber upkeep in endgame
pine jacinth
Alternately you can get 6 boosted 2x1s or 5 boosted grands, which is just the st...
Also you can 3x boosted adorned if your build uses those
None of the implicits feel particularly impactful either to beat out the space and boosts of pyramidal
fluid pewter
how come this stat does not add to my armor shred chance? weird
orchid flint
fluid pewter
but this stat does - can anyone explain? whats the difference then?
fluid pewter
WP
orchid flint
melee is melee specifically. spells are also hits
vestal mirage
wp does have the melee tag
orchid flint
so hit would work on spells and melee but melee would only be melee
silk wasp
The character sheet only shows generic shred chance
fluid pewter
but this stat does - can anyone explain? whats the difference then?
so regardless any shred - its okay to use?
bec what he did was 100 percent shred chance on gloves then melee shred on idols
vestal mirage
found my first double t7 and it's a shield
fluid pewter
im losing dps then?
waxen nymph
bec what he did was 100 percent shred chance on gloves then melee shred on idols
It doesn't matter
As long as you reach roughly 100 stacks of Shreds on your target thats good enough
iron basin
fill two tabs and we'll talk
misty thistle
Judgement is not scaling as I would have hoped, too used to ES VK lol
Might have to switch after I farm a World splitter, got the rest of the uniques
heavy ore
So i heard void knight has some qol now. Last time I tried it I capped out around level 6 because it just didnt feel great compared to the wizzard I rode into the 80s
heavy ore
oh... yeah that's a terrible typo. Level 63
65 it turns out, nice even number.
Tried a primalist too and by level 54 I just couldnt stand how slow and awful everything felt.
vestal mirage
primalist leveling is pretty rough ye
unborn cypress
Anyone have any comments on Eye of Reen vs Transcribers Graver for HC Judgement Paladin?
waxen nymph
Ground spam?
unborn cypress
Yeah consecrated ground
waxen nymph
Reen is terrible imo
No Flat spell, no pen
Only thing it has is Inc Fire Dot, but for that you need to crit
So you need to invest in Crit chance
unborn cypress
Hmm ok
Really weird. Action RPG website has Eye of Reen but then uses Wing Guards which means you can't crit
waxen nymph
Link?
scarlet thistle
I think it's just for the ignite chance
waxen nymph
It's an hybrid ignite Spell dot
unborn cypress
So then is the ignite better than the spell damage?
unborn cypress
Ok got you. So he was just trying to be different.
scarlet thistle
It's just an Ele DoT setup, so it leans heavily into anything with DoT it seems
unborn cypress
What about Falcon Fists vs Wing Guards? It adds flat melee damage. Still has decent attack speed, and doesn't take away crits?
waxen nymph
If you play SPELL DOT you dont care about flat fire melee or Crit
unborn cypress
Oh ok yeah dot can't crit
Theoretically would there be an exalted pair of gloves better than wing guards
scarlet thistle
you wont get anywhere near as much attack speed on anything else
faster attack speed means more mana, which means you can spend it on judgement
scarlet thistle
If you don't have Red Rings then Stardial is nice. Maybe Ashes of Mortality since it's doing a lot of ignites?
peak zodiac
What about Red Rings for this build?
red rings are never a strictly bad option. however, judgement doesn't have difficulty even overcapping res to 115 without them (especially with blossom amulet), and are going to have a hard time hitting the 180 attributes, particularly without shattered worlds or something like cleaver solution. and you pretty much give up the possibility of 2lp plus, which allows you to get ele dot and healing effect, which are both super high value, and with something like sunwreath even 3/4 lp is possible.
verbal lark
the downside to shade dropping so many siphons is trying to figure out which one to use 
alpine canopy
the downside to shade dropping so many siphons is trying to figure out which one...
Usually they are used for doom, so a low doom roll is immediate disqualification for me usually
unborn cypress
red rings are never a strictly *bad* option. however, judgement doesn't have dif...
Ah ok got it. Makes sense thanks
hollow spindle
what is that spreadsheet stickz? what is it collating?
also as an aside, eterra has a twisted sense of humor:
soft mason
That moment when youre so thrilled that you rolled a perfect T7 with Refinement that you Creation before adding a 4th affix... and don't notice until you get to the slam cabinet...
and now you have 2 useless exalted axes
silk wasp
Oops
tropic drum
sealed affixes can't make it onto a unique item via the energy cache right?
hollow spindle
right, sealed is tied to the direct item its part of
tropic drum
woops lmao I kalandra'd an item i thought was really good for LP slams and didnt realize one of them is sealed
whatevers ig
any good alternatives to titans heart for body armour on erasing strikes titan?
i'm guessing probably null potent?
hollow spindle
Wings of Argentus is a budget version kinda, if you dont like using Titans Heart, plus it has baked in haste too (so if you dont feel like using the crab ring, you can use that instead)
Null Portent is tanky. Woven Flesh if you want a budget leech version of Null Portent.
So those are all possible alternatives
verbal lark
what is that spreadsheet stickz? what is it collating?
it's a bunch of siphon rings, the one shade drops
hollow spindle
yea but how are you quantifying them in a spreadsheet?
alpine sage
<@310108509800759299> does ring of shields not mess up your lava burst overlaps?...
for me shield significantly increases the dmg
let shields spin around you and stay close to the boss
they will bounce between shields creating explosion overlap
lava fg is way better than throwing damage pally version but gear is harder to roll
tropic drum
argentus seems like a huge ehp loss compared to titan heart, idk
null potent on 2lp tends to be cheaper than 2lp titan heart from what I could see in MG
tawdry oasis
for me shield significantly increases the dmg
yea just forces a hugging playstyle, although i guess i do get the third bounce which is nice
alpine sage
yea just forces a hugging playstyle, although i guess i do get the third bounce ...
for bossing only
but it deals insane dmg
tropic drum
in theory I think it's possible for null potent to have better ehp than titan heart? but it seems very unlikely best case scenario you have +5% less damage taken vs titan heart but you're giving up ~30~40% max hp
scarlet thistle
Titan Heart has better legendary potential, so I think it wins out over Null Portent.
iron basin
so is it time to bring back the furnace
tropic drum
ngl why do people use healing hands as mobil? tbh I actually think volatile reversal unspecced works really well as mobility
iron basin
because it's convenient if you're already spec'd into it and gives invuln while charging
you can disjoint some boss attacks with it
tropic drum
icic
iron basin
man why can't you get the spellblade affix on 2H swords
tropic drum
kinda wish there was unique sword (other than black blade of chaos) that isn't kinda ass
iron basin
wat
alpine canopy
I prefer unspecced VR or even lunge over HH traversal. But HH being really slow is good for bossing, I guess, lol
iron basin
there's a handful of good unique swords
scarlet thistle
ngl why do people use healing hands as mobil? tbh I actually think volatile reve...
Volatile with double jump is fantastic and doesnt even get the traversal tag. Healing Hands is normally solid mult-purpose but the cooldown is not correct rn
Anchored Timeline + Future Focus turn Volatile into such a fun skill
alpine canopy
man why can't you get the spellblade affix on 2H swords
Because spellblades are more about dual wielding swords, I guess
iron basin
that is far too logical and I want to complain
tropic drum
Volatile with double jump is fantastic and doesnt even get the traversal tag. He...
yeah i was wodnering wtf was with that
it's clearly like 10s
but the tooltip says 6
iron basin
i used pyre of affliction last time I did furnace since I could get flat spell damage on a 2H while still using a shield
scarlet thistle
it's bugged and very annoying. Ive got it down to 6.8s now lol
iron basin
but honestly it might be best to just use a palarus with a spellblade affix
scarlet thistle
doesnt the spellblade affix only count the base damage?
scarlet thistle
ah kk. im thinking of the affix that gives spell based on melee damage
tropic drum
void cleave movement is like ok, ont great
it's mostly useful i think for like rive where the aoe on the skill is utter ass
polar spire
as a shield rush spammin crit and ignite/electrify hybrid, yes pls
tropic drum
just me or is rive vk just not good? i tried playing it for a bit and it's actually straight up worse than erasing strikes even before you can equip world splitter
i was using apathy's maw too
iron basin
man why is furnace so freakin bad. the more damage per area thing is capped pretty low because you can only get increased area on amulet and gloves
polar spire
love it
iron basin
tfw you've just reset a skill
quiet hearth
Has anyone run the numbers on how much mana regen we need to forge strike forever?
iron basin
gotta be a function of your attack speed right?
polar spire
Has anyone run the numbers on how much mana regen we need to forge strike foreve...
very difficult to do, even with a butchers crown
better to just go massive attack speed and multistrike/forgestrike
time and faith covers the mana cost
quiet hearth
Im wondering how far I can get with apathy
iron basin
i guess forge strike's hit does scale with attunement doesn't it
polar spire
is it for critstrike or dotstrike?
quiet hearth
Would work for either because it scales with attunement or strength
tropic drum
spirit step feels weird as ehll
iron basin
it def takes some getting used to
okay so hear me out
this is usable on sentinel with the ring
160% increased area is 480% more fire DoT for smelter's wrath
so how do we get 10 stacks per second
quiet hearth
if you're just using smelters you wont
quiet hearth
So something like Vengeance or MS, MS likely the better option but Vengeance does come with some cool toys of it's own
tropic drum
wait what the fk does it do does it tp a random distance every time? genuinelyc ant tell
vocal shoal
Guys how to farm fk channeling cost affix for helmet? Putted helmet on weaver tree, bought prophecies and still nothing
iron basin
wait what the fk does it do does it tp a random distance every time? genuinelyc ...
do you see the little fire ghosts popping up?
it teleports to those
if there aren't any, it goes about as far as a normal evade
tropic drum
ohhh
polar spire
Guys how to farm fk channeling cost affix for helmet? Putted helmet on weaver tr...
buy crafting helms, spam runes of discovery and glyphs of chaos on prefix, pray you roll it, pray theres fp left to use runes of removal
vocal shoal
Ohhh ok
ruby hollow
crazy omen idol drop
pine jacinth
holy pyramid altar
tropic drum
90% ms with dark stride lmao
unfortunately flay is just kinda better since that shit gives a ridiculous 25~50% multiplicative damage against high hp
frozen sonnet
So I like multiple abilities in Void Knight but... it feels very disjointed. If I want to do warpath it can trigger abyssal echoes but there's really nothing else. Theoretically I could grab the abyssal echoes node that improves the next void cleave/erasing strike so then I warpath for 3 seconds to trigger abyssal echoes, then do an erasing strike, then go back to spinning, but it still feels like there are ability slots with zero use.
It feels like that no matter which void abilities I look at. They only interact with 1, maaaabye 2 other skills, and sometimes those interactions seem like they wouldn't actually be effective to chain together.
heavy ore
I've been saying since the earliest versions it'd be great if they put more linkages in the hands of players to find emergent combos and gameplay
frozen sonnet
I'm no LE expert, but I feel like I've run a lich build and a cold primalist build that made good use of all 5 skill slots.
Void Knight it feels like no matter what I try to slot together, there's always 1, maybe 2, completely useless skill slots.
Skills don't necessarily have to all be able to chain into each other. On Sentinel I know it's not bad to use shield charge for a specialization slot then make it so you don't need a shield then lower the mana cost and you just use it as a traversal skill. Doesn't chain with anything, it's just useful.
grave patrol
Is this thing good anymore?
misty thistle
How can we upload our characters for you guys to nitpick and tell us major upgrades?
Struggling with Judgement pally, wanted to try to fix before I went to VK
misty thistle
my hp is low, but i have a double LP belt im gonna upgrade, its damage im struggling with
My gear is coming together, but im just getting tankier lol
Idols need a lot of work, I know. But I was trying to get all the gear first. Maybe a "newer player" mistake
Unique idol is probably massive, and get an ele damage over time on my midnight ring. But that ring is bloody rare i dont wana imprint a T5
all i got right now
heavy ore
Struggling with Judgement pally, wanted to try to fix before I went to VK
The answer to any sentinel build is generally rive. Want more DPS? Rive will probably beat whatever you're using. Not enough mana? Time and Faith. Need heals? Same skill. Rive suffers from "better than everything else by a long shot" itis
misty thistle
Problem is im like 30 hours into judgement, my dps is ticking around 9-10k
obviously my attack speed and mana on vengeance is one of my issues
I'm able to recast Judgement when OOM every 1 sec
can anyone tell me what it is, when optimally built?
Not BIS gear, but well built
Now, even on ES VK, or Warpath I wouldnt be absolutely cooking as I would still need a lot of mana
so im probably doing ok at 200 corruption for now
I'm gonna stick with it and try to LP slam a few bits of gear before i switch
If anyone can have a look at my profile and tell me anything im missing, except slams on my current gear, unique idol and the other uniques which are harder to get, like the amulet
alpine sage
@manic cradle ok, with full t7 gears
this is maxroll throw version of paladin (jaw dagger)
this is paladin with firestarter torch
this is lava forge guard with pyre axe and 5x large idols and stacking endurance
vestal mirage
That's big dam
alpine sage
That's big dam
I mean paladin is not even close to forge guard
so if you could stack endurance and gets 2 t7 shield throw crit chance I would DEFINITELY recommend forge guard
vestal mirage
Is this like all full t7 gear or how crazy is it?
alpine sage
this is full t7 gears
so it's fair
paladin is a friendlier version due to easier to get the affixes
forge guard requires more affixes to be this strong
vestal mirage
Did you ever get a basic planner for fg 👀
alpine sage
please wait for some minutes
vestal mirage
tropic drum
So I like multiple abilities in Void Knight but... it feels very disjointed. If ...
yeah it just kinda feels like void knight abilities don't really sync with each other if that makes any sense? idk there's like 3 abilities usually you defo wanna use (rive/strikes/multi/whatever dps u use) + orb + time bubble and then you p much always want to take symbol of hope since it gives u a stupid amount of damage so you might as well as take healing hands
alpine sage
@vestal mirage https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0VXlD93
crude matrixBOT
alpine sage
Did you ever get a basic planner for fg 👀
planner at max t7 gear
so not online planner
just for testing how strong it can be
vestal mirage
Interesting. Ty for the planner
I wonder how strong it'd be with realistic live gear. You're tempting me to try it
misty thistle
crude matrixBOT
misty thistle
Could anyone have a look and tell me if im doing anything wrong. I'm working on HP
vestal mirage
planner at max t7 gear
What are you stacking attunement for?
quick heath
hey team, playing warpath VK.
Does anyone have any ideas on how i can utilize the haste corrupt on these bad boys?
- I cant use haste on evade becauses of the crab ring
- cant slam haste on hit from set items onto my uniques
- cant use kestrel
- cant use shattered lands
ruby hollow
hey team, playing warpath VK.
Does anyone have any ideas on how i can utilize t...
shattered is probably your best bet
gusty abyss
I think the only semi realistic answer is getting a high lp quicksilver coil
night sorrel
just a quick question i am playing Judgjement , my gear is crap and yet i wanna ask , why is that build so good ?
abstract obsidian
Could anyone have a look and tell me if im doing anything wrong. I'm working on ...
doing nothing wrong, u just need LP
here's mine
happy to run you through monos if needed
misty thistle
Damn, thats some nice gear
I was gonna make a warpath VK but i wanted to keep going on judgement too
torn lol
abstract obsidian
judgement is so easy, youhold down buttons
VK has a lot more damage though
im trying uber abby and the build... lacks damage
smashes at all other content though
tropic drum
erasing strikes is very fun
misty thistle
yeah i've played ES and Warpath previously
starting a new char cause i havent got World splitter yet
not risking respeccing and cant kill nothing xD
tropic drum
ngl i straight up played ES without world splitter for a while
mostly cause i tried rive and thought it was pure ass and didnt want to bother with warpath (i dont like the spin to win builds)
misty thistle
I can farm splitter easily enough
my pally can do 200+ corruption so
Can alts be boosted?
i cant be bothered with campaign haha
tropic drum
most you can do is to overgear the dungeons i think>
quick jasper
Anyone have a good up to date judgement aura paladin build guide?
misty junco
I hate farming some of these items, still didn't find a hand of judgement
alpine sage
What are you stacking attunement for?
Just for lava burst damage. Idk what else to replace
abstract obsidian
Anyone have a good up to date judgement aura paladin build guide?
maxroll has one
waxen nymph
Just for lava burst damage. Idk what else to replace
Its not supposed to scale with Att
Because it's a subskill of ST
It inherits ST attributes scaling
Str and Dex
clever hazel
subskills inherit their attribute scaling from the thing that casts them, it doesn't matter what the subskill itself claims in datamined information like that
alpine sage
subskills inherit their attribute scaling from the thing that casts them, it doe...
then why does the data says it scales based on attunement?
clever hazel
that's a question for EHG, not me
mike has said in this server at least 3 times, including as an answer specifically for lava burst, that the attribute scaling comes from the parent skill, not the subskill
waxen nymph
then why does the data says it scales based on attunement?
Probably re used skill base
misty thistle
Anyone can boost a few monos? Can return favour on my judgement pally
alpine sage
ok so this is what lava forge guard will become at full t7 items
guess lava fg is S tier with maxed items
next lynx
Got a build guide for this build? Looks cool af
main musk
Go offline, edit 4xt7 legendaries in every slot
Win
Been there, done that a couple of times. Turns out, there's no reason to play after that 😂 (other than testing builds)
dire prairie
ok so this is what lava forge guard will become at full t7 items
kinda slow
alpine sage
Been there, done that a couple of times. Turns out, there's no reason to play af...
I mean, testing builds is fun
Problem is, how fast can your tested build kill uberroth?
alpine sage
kinda slow
for not one shotting it with maxed gear?
alpine sage
Got a build guide for this build? Looks cool af
it has a build guide by @manic cradle
marsh bronze
For paladin judgement is that 2h weapon best in slot I see people using it on ladder
alpine sage
so judgement aura become new meta huh?
marsh bronze
Xylem
ruby hollow
eyo
marsh bronze
Is judgement aura build better than regular judgement
main musk
I mean, testing builds is fun
Oh for sure, I'm not hating on testing builds, not at all.
It's just that my primary goal with arpgs is chasing the incremental power upgrades, and as soon as I start "testing", that flips my brain around and I have a hard time enjoying the "incremental" part, which is again, the original reason I came to play the game.
main musk
Is judgement aura build better than regular judgement
If I'm not mistaken, aura is way comfier for mapping, and regular has more dps for bosses
marsh bronze
And does the judgement aura build never use shield?
alpine sage
If I'm not mistaken, aura is way comfier for mapping, and regular has more dps f...
no
aura has way way more dps for bossing
main musk
aura has way way more dps for bossing
Oh really?
alpine sage
that has been true since season 3
the only thing regular is better is more tanky
aura is better for both dealing dps and mapping
regular is better for surviving in hardcore
main musk
Oh, that's interesting, I do like auradins in general.
alpine sage
I can confirm that
I tried both versions
aura is A+ tier in season 3 for dps
regular is a failure in dps
especially against uberroth
now in season 4 the staff has been buffed
so it is S tier now
main musk
You gotta do a 2-3 skill rotation with it though, right? (not hating on it, just checking)
waxen nymph
Yeah, there is a little combo to do
empty path
Hardest build I've ever played while leveling
alpine sage
Yeah, there is a little combo to do
for me I don't mind it
the only combo I can't play is hoa marksman
that thing is too difficult to play
even harder than piano builds in grim dawn
crimson crystal
hit the inevitable part where my pre-season dumb build I planned is starting to show its cracks
need me a mantle of the pale ox and t7 health to make my dual-wield minion ignite FG work
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AL09KV61
crude matrixBOT
waxen nymph
for me I don't mind it
Same, I actually like it
alpine sage
also the build is tanky enough that you don't need emergency teleport buttons
main musk
Now I gotta start farming for a T7x2 or a T7+T6 caster staff for my MA. Probably means I should start looking for Nemesises, get something decent, and then imprint it, correct?
That is to say, I assume that's still the best chance of getting a high-tier exalt staff?
scarlet thistle
Xylem is great for Judgement Aura. There's a node that gives more damage for mana cost and makes the skill cost a % of your mana
I've been running a hybrid Smite-Aura setup and it's been real nice for these Omen fights
scarlet thistle
Work your way towards the edge of the monolith and fight the shade
You can increase it by more using those needle idols and fighting the harbingers before fighting the shade
misty junco
ok
arctic sun
does the aura version have enough survavibility? cause i'm running regular judgment and it's pretty tanky and not so bad at mapping, thinkig about respec it, i'm around 200 corruption now
losing block seem a lot
misty junco
it is a lot but i'm doing fine
scarlet thistle
Aura has been very good for survival. At 500 now and still easy.
misty junco
I'm playing it until I can get Warpath gear lol
misty junco
Aura has been very good for survival. At 500 now and still easy.
I still haven't found a single t6 or 7 affix of elemental dot
from a staff
playing a natty xylem
scarlet thistle
I still haven't found a single t6 or 7 affix of elemental dot
I feel you there. I've been struggling to find specific affixes this season. I'm usually having to use the rune to shuffle affixes around
misty junco
I feel you there. I've been struggling to find specific affixes this season. I'm...
I lack runes of havoc
idk how to get them readily
quasi schooner
Is it better to run sword and shield as Paladin or is it preference or build dependent
misty junco
build dependant
scarlet thistle
I lack runes of havoc
They're extremely rare drops, but I think they drop more from Aberroth. Might also drop with generic rune prophecies too (not 100% on that tho)
quasi schooner
build dependant
Okay cool that’s what I figured just had to ask
wild elk
Aura has been very good for survival. At 500 now and still easy.
do you have 2lp gear?
or just 1lp stuff
im looking to setup a paladin but dont have too many funds , i like cheap builds
scarlet thistle
do you have 2lp gear?
This is my character so far: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/daikaze/character/PatchesTheFourth
Corrupted affixes have been doing a good bit to help.
wild elk
oh a lot of that is way out of my pay grade
gonna stick w/ my necro then lol
is voidknigth cheaper
scarlet thistle
Red Ring isnt necessary, Stardial is a good alternative. The rest is all easy to farm, 3 can be target farmed even.
misty junco
Red Ring isnt necessary, Stardial is a good alternative. The rest is all easy to...
I have like 3 1lp stardial but no t6 or 7 affix
again lol
that would be a pretty huge damage increase if I had that
wild elk
seems like my biggest mistake was going mg as someone who doesn't play a lot
misty junco
I cba with MG
wild elk
probably ruined the season for me but thats fine it seems like S5 will be way bigger
wild elk
i'm probably done for s4 i can't afford anything
main musk
Not too late to re-roll to CoF 🙂
misty junco
Yeah
wild elk
rather not
misty junco
you can just reroll
main musk
Erasing Strike, I'd assume not, Warpath probably not, you could look at the Devouring Orb autobomber?
Although I'm not even sure what you mean by "cheap": not needing much gear to do well, or specifically cheap to gear in MG?
wild elk
cheap to gear in mg
scarlet thistle
I have like 3 1lp stardial but no t6 or 7 affix
Try imprinting the Nemesis tower on your weaver tree. Those are a great source for exalted items. Can be a good source for double exalts too.
wooden mountain
scarlet thistle
Item Imprints got nerfed. Did Nemesis get nerfed? It's been pretty good for me this season
If anyone is playing Hardcore, I highly recommend avoiding Healing Hands as a movement skill. Sometimes it just gets stuck moving during those omen fights... and you lose the damage immunity part.
Anyone know if void shield throw converts the subskill?
silk wasp
Don't think so
scarlet thistle
I'm starting to think those immunity to chill/slow corrupted affixes are looking real nice
silk wasp
Chill immunity on gloves would be pretty nice to have
quiet hearth
time to gamba and see if I can remove the phys damage without bricking this
waxen nymph
Brick
quiet hearth
buddy it went full cinder block
removed teh dot and the pen, left the phys, I hate this game xD
I swear if I ever made a game like this, better targeting crafting would be a thing.
gusty prism
i cant get my warpath void knight filter from maxroll to work properly, im new to this so im probably messing it up. but i copy it from maxroll, paste it in using the button in the game settings menu, and it all seems there, but then some of the rules dont seem to have any filters and therefore make literally everything that drops show up, defeating the purpose of the filter. am i supposed to be further manually configuring this filter somehow? sorry if this is the wrong forum for this question.
maiden thistle
i cant get my warpath void knight filter from maxroll to work properly, im new t...
So there’s like levels of restriction in the filter. The base one is just assuming you need EVERYTHING. It also drops stuff it wants you to shatter for later on. It does get rid of a lot of shit tho
gusty prism
do you mean the levels in maxroll when you copy their filter (regular to giga strict)
maiden thistle
If you think it’s not working just hold “X” on your keyboard and it’ll turn the loot filter off until you release it
maiden thistle
do you mean the levels in maxroll when you copy their filter (regular to giga st...
Yeah
gusty prism
i thought that might be it, so i tried the giga strict filter excluding other classes and it still shows everything that drops
in weird white font
which is why i think im messing something up
maiden thistle
Hmm. You deleting the old filters before you add the new one?
Idk. Weird one. I tried the same build filter and it worked
gusty prism
no
maiden thistle
I just delete the old one first then paste the new.
gusty prism
i thought it would just have all these different filters i can pick in the dropdown
which it does
maiden thistle
Not sure. I’ve always deleted and they work though
gusty prism
whats weird is i put raxx's s4 ultimate filter in the folder as an xml file and it seems to work absolutely fine
i just want a warpath void knight specific one bc loot in this game overwhelms me at the moment
maiden thistle
Yeah facts. I just started playing in S4. Hurts my brain
keen kite
sorry for reply a old message, but did you level with fissure/smite from the beggining? I'm starting right now first char of the season and i'm thinking of going with this and then later pure smite
scarlet thistle
sorry for reply a old message, but did you level with fissure/smite from the beg...
Yep. Fissure Smite for leveling and then just gradually worked my way into adding Judgement Aura. Pure Smite should be plenty strong too
keen kite
Yep. Fissure Smite for leveling and then just gradually worked my way into addin...
nice. the pure smite I mean is this one, https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/smite-paladin-guide but it has a lot of uniques, so I will use fissures as a start. thank you
scarlet thistle
Fissures has good clear. Lightning-Crit Smite will be very strong when you got the items
orchid flint
quiet hearth
you know, I cant be mad at this
cant wait for corruption to turn a good craft into cant be equipped
opaque verge
Hi, are there people in here to help kill uber abberoth? My bladestorm bladedancer doesn't cut it with level 95 and strong gear, still not enough damage, the fight drags out so much. I want to get shattered earth relic. I have like 25 woven echos for the fight.
scarlet thistle
Cleared the new pinnacle with Judgement-Smite: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Daikaze/character/PatchesTheFourth
It's a lot easier than Uberroth, that's for sure. I'd say it felt easier than the Omen's Veil echo even.
lilac thorn
anyone else playing javelin this patch?
manic cradle
yolo slam 🙂
lilac thorn
enjoying sent and how tanky (lowkey busted) it is during leveling
still deciding what i want to switch into tho i'm learning towards javelin cause it's so flashy imo
misty thistle
Anyone free to run a few monos in my game to boost my alt from 40 to maybe 55 ?
Can return the favour
Someone boosted me in their game so I cant go back to campaign now haha
orchid flint
Cleared the new pinnacle with Judgement-Smite: https://www.lastepochtools.com/pr...
uber difficulty kind of artifical because without all the insane ground degen its a pretty easy dps check
scarlet thistle
Trying to position Uberroth is just not a fun mechanic and I don't really need the drops. So I never really spend more than a few tries in a season.
iron basin
yolo slam 🙂
now that's a shield
also I think that corrupt is bugged and applies marked for death to yourself too
anyone play with the new forking shield throw idols yet?
pine jacinth
yolo slam 🙂
3x t7? Wtf?
iron basin
either legacy or got to do a lot of farming already
@waxen nymph i found this last night while stuck in memeland. hear me out, this is usable on sentinel with the set ring
that's 480% more fire DoT for smelter's wrath
vestal mirage
Let him cook
manic cradle
anyone play with the new forking shield throw idols yet?
yes, and I just killed ubby with them 😉
its was super smooth
iron basin
right on i kinda figured that would be the one that does it if something does
I wanna use actual shield throw somehow
manic cradle
I don't think actual shield throw benefits from ricochet as much as lava burst
verbal nova
I'm working on a Voidknight echo warpath combining the Jormun's and Forgotten knight sets. Has anyone else experimented with this yet?
iron basin
shield throw is tough because it's great for clear but terrible in single target unless you're bouncing off your RoS, but then you aren't hitting your target so you need lava burst
scarlet thistle
<@275273870431223808> i found this last night while stuck in memeland. hear me o...
Okay, but what if you went Fire Warpath? I wonder if dual-wielding the sword is limited to 4/s procs.
bold mulch
Guys any New toy for forged weapons? Besides corrupting your weapon
manic cradle
also I think that corrupt is bugged and applies marked for death to yourself too
and you are right, the corrupt is bugged :/
waxen nymph
<@275273870431223808> i found this last night while stuck in memeland. hear me o...
How do you shoot Burning Daggers ?
iron basin
on melee hit with the sword
unfortunately the relic is a rogue relic
that would give you 2/s
waxen nymph
Pillager ?
iron basin
yeah
so we dual wield these to get 140% chance to throw a burning dagger on hit and find something that can generate 10 daggers per second
waxen nymph
Be careful its not on Hit but on USe
iron basin
oh yeah
okay so we need a lot of uses
and then every 4s we have a smelter's wrath that does slightly more damage
it's genius
waxen nymph
GENIUS
gusty abyss
I feel a rampancy build being build
waxen nymph
Which one is that already ?
gusty abyss
vit conversion for frenzy effect, to get that attacks speed needed
iron basin
you know SW has 20 guaranteed ignites with double duration and they still do no damage
lol
gusty abyss
I am also on the rampancy train, just hit this
iron basin
pog
golden dove
Which one is that already ?
long time no see Sargaent Vlad
I start my hcssf journey today >:)
gusty abyss
that corrupt nearly doubled my damage o-O
thorn night
heyy everyone, someone has a cool "rain down" Javelin lighting build?
orchid flint
lava burst uber abby kill in under 3m
that damage is cracked wtf
vestal mirage
everything is 3-4lp slams
iron basin
that corrupt nearly doubled my damage o-O
the increased melee damage per strength doesn't mess around. you're effectively making strength 50% better for any strength scaling skill
on top of the flat damage coming from the corrupt
misty thistle
See if I'm just starting WP, make sense to not take warriors fury and go into mana reduction until I get better gear right?
main musk
I mean, you can try it, see if 1 point lets you comfortably spin for a while. And if it's too much, spec back out of it.
But typically yeah, you bum it for a while without warrior's fury if you're still just gearing up.
latent ferry
slap 'em on and hit the dummies I suppose
alpine canopy
I'm assuming the gloves?
Gloves win
golden dove
literally died to lag within 20 minutes of HC character
everything stopped moving so i logged out, logged back in character is in SC 🙁
urban phoenix
Gloves win
Hmm.
Seems to be applying both somehow.
Thats strange.
I wonder if it's doubling lmao
I think it is.
alpine canopy
It shouldn't. That said, there is an order of operations that can result in you getting both. What are you using to apply the ailments?
urban phoenix
It shouldn't. That said, there is an order of operations that can result in you...
MA/Shield throw interaction.
alpine canopy
Both in this context just meaning some of each
urban phoenix
Sweeping attack
golden dove
never noticed this little orb before, anyone know what it is?
silk wasp
Vengeance
golden dove
ahh
urban phoenix
Both in this context just meaning some of each
Definitely feels like its double dipping. Hard to say 100%, but i'm getting only slightly less bleed stacks as i would with a 500% frostbite (converted to bleed) weapon, with a 37% bleed dagger.
and significantly more ignite stacks.
vs
alpine canopy
Definitely feels like its double dipping. Hard to say 100%, but i'm getting only...
Are you taking the fire conversion in shield throw?
urban phoenix
Are you taking the fire conversion in shield throw?
Nope.
wasn't getting any ignites before putting the dagger on.
alpine canopy
and safe to assume you have your weapon applies to MA node, I guess
urban phoenix
Yeah.
Probably some MA shenanigans
No bleeds at all without MA present.
Ahh ok.
I think i get it.
alpine canopy
Not really sure what's going on, then. Maybe the order the items apply got changed or there's something else going on
alpine canopy
That definitely sounds buggy lol