🔱┃sentinel

[tacit zealot]

wasnt there an item/stat that gave endurace to ward or some health to ward that isnt the regen corruption? i thought i saw something that can boost ward from other defensive stats but i dont remember it being regen (since i dont usually build regen)

[clever hazel]

most of the builds I've made idol setups for so far used pyramidal or spire

[scarlet thistle]

Wall of Nothing?

[tacit zealot]

nah i use rayeh shield

ill see if i can pull my old build from LE tools

gotta load game to remember chars names though lol

[scarlet thistle]

if you play online, you can find your profile on LETools and then search the chars that way

[silk wasp]

You can get your full character list with just the account name

[tacit zealot]

it might be the regen to ward i just dont remember it being that since its not a stat i usually get

[scarlet thistle]

Ah, vessel of strife

[tacit zealot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdzkNxgK

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 98

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (18) / Paladin (73)

General:

▸ Health: 1,885, Regen: 58.78/s
▸ Mana: 204.51, Regen: 9.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 59%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 36 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 259% / 96% / 123% / 127% / 75% / 70% / 30%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 27%, Threshold: 774
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (166)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,482)
▸ Block Chance: 30%, Mitigation: 35% (926)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 50%

Used skills:

Javelin / Holy Aura / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Lunge

[tacit zealot]

thats what im tryna aim for. i get 8-10k ward

[empty path]

They buff the S*i+ out of Sunforged set

How will you get to 8-10k with so little retention?

[tacit zealot]

cast speed

healing effect converted to ward in hh tree

[empty path]

It does but the ward will go up and down very quickly

[tacit zealot]

yep it does but unless i get stunned im always around 8-10k

but ignore the stats

i didnt play as much to farm that season

just more for the gear and skill i was aiming for

when HH was first released i could get over 100k ward with same build haha

better gear

damage also felt good but this time it felt a lot worse with pretty much same uniques but lower stats

[empty path]

You mean when Healing Hand didn't have a specialization tree?

[tacit zealot]

no i meant when it got the tree

when the full itteration of hh was first released and ward was op

the season before they nerfed ward

ive been here since 0.9 on and off so dont always remember things lol

[empty path]

Not sure when I started

[tacit zealot]

only item that was different was mad alchs. i used that on the OG build but this build people said mad alchs was trash (yet i feel weaker without it)

maybe the extra base crit from eterras blessing maybe? but i didnt think 5% would make much diff

[silk wasp]

1.0 Divine Barrier was hilarious

[tacit zealot]

was it 1.0? i just remembered i farmed so much. i have 524 hours and 3/4th of that was that 1 season alone XD

so yeah is there any new ward based things that could work in that build?

8-10k is great but one stun and i was insta killed

[silk wasp]

Yeah, my 1.0 paladin is still on LE Tools. 100% healing to ward conversion if you had the Health > Ward conversion effect

Thousands of ward for free

[empty path]

Steam says I installed the game in 2019

[silk wasp]

Somehow nobody caught that before launch

[tacit zealot]

yeah then just stack healing eff and attunement, stand inside javelin banner and so much ward you start from 0 again lol

theres no one making div bolts (from HH) build so i have to put one together myself based off the 1 guide from 1.0 i did follow haha

[empty path]

Prefer the free ward of Forged Weapons global ward regen 😄 at lvl 25 ish you have 2k ward

[silk wasp]

There was one person in 1.2 I think doing HH Divine Bolt

[tacit zealot]

i dont think i played 1.2 much

the build isnt bad i just dont know how to tweak a lil more survivability without sacrificing damage which i already lack

unless im inside javelin banner for the 250%

is there anything that converts spell leech health into ward?

[silk wasp]

Not that I'm aware of

[tacit zealot]

grasp of the blood mage seems like a good upgrade since spell leech hp but im either with ward or dead lol

and the crit chance

you can get experimental affixes at t7 correct?

t7 health to ward with t7 cast speed on gloves might help a lil instead of t5

pally skills arent classed as int skills are they?

all attunement/strength?

[radiant tangle]

I think one of them can be, Volatile Reversal with the belt?! I could be wrong though. But typically yes. They are either attument and strength/dexterity.

You can change Smite to Vitality for Void as well.

[tacit zealot]

damn horn of the bone wisp would have been pretty decent if i could use the +4 to int skills and the int that comes on it

i was thinking for my HH div bolts

whilst having ward retention

i only have some from ashes of morality

time glass might be the only other potential ward retention unique but the stats arent crazy vs an exalted ammy

[silk wasp]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ol4DY9Lo This is who I was thinking of was playing Bolt in 1.2.

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Version:

Season 2: Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Paladin (88)

General:

▸ Health: 3,121, Regen: 435/s
▸ Mana: 356.09, Regen: 12.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 77%, Regen: 10/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 20 Dex / 20 Int / 80 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 194% / 101% / 101% / 118% / 133% / 106% / 103%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 67%, Threshold: 980
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (80)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 55% (3,698)
▸ Block Chance: 101%, Mitigation: 51% (2,128)

Used skills:

Healing Hands / Holy Aura / Judgement / Symbols of Hope / Smite

[tacit zealot]

does the bolts count as a "hit"

wait nvm did read properly XD

idk i see why judgement but at same time thats not providing much for the bolts themselves whereas javelin gives you 250% damage and attunement which scales into healing effectiveness

then the node in HH "bane of evil" gives spell damage per attunement

IG this was a boss setup?

i dont understand the boots, relic (maybe for crit chance), body or shield

[radiant tangle]

How does Javelin give 250% to Divine Bolt?

[tacit zealot]

that used to be global 250% damage

been changed and i didnt know till i went to grab the screenshot

this part along with the old 250%

but yeah ig its now redundant

[radiant tangle]

Ah, okay.

Also, I know what I want the most in game now... Void Healing Hands conversion. I would give body parts for this.

[tacit zealot]

i think echo would be hella strong on hh

especially with some of the new echo corrupts

lunge instead of javelin it is then lol

[peak zodiac]

been saying this

i just wanna play my smite build without seeing gold, i want everything purple

[tacit zealot]

i want div bolts to proc through the auto proc of HH if used that way lol

from using smite i mean

so both hh and div bolts are auto casted XD

then lunge or javelin smite notes also proc hh and div bolts XD

[silk wasp]

Damage reduction. You avoid getting splattered when your ward drops by having a truckload of HP and DR under it

[grim kestrel]

what build is best to level before vk warpath

[quiet hearth]

I mean you can just level with void warpath

[vestal mirage]

Gm gamers. 1 hour away 🫡

[quiet hearth]

1hr away from what?

[silk wasp]

Start of maintenance I guess

[vestal mirage]

Wait. It's tomorrow not today

[quiet hearth]

I was like, am I that cooked that I missed a whole day?

[vestal mirage]

Gives me 1 more day to plan I guess

[quiet hearth]

I still have zero clue what Im starting

[silk wasp]

One whole day to build the smelter's wrath planner of your dreams

[quiet hearth]

No

My nightmares maybe

[vestal mirage]

I'm not a gigachad smelter enjoyer unfortunately. I'm thinking crit echoes atm

Probably not a good starter but idc

[quiet hearth]

I mean you get good enough base damage to carry you while you transition into crit honestly. Not the worst thing.

[vestal mirage]

Ye the base damage seems solid

[quiet hearth]

because void and vk are the devs favorite things

[vestal mirage]

Based

[quiet hearth]

Really Im just gonna pick something that is smooth until I find a volcanus and reroll into divine bolts

[silk wasp]

Can't wait to see the volcanus rework in action

[vestal mirage]

Only thing I'm not looking forward to is farming an omni :clueless:

[quiet hearth]

Yeah the fact they aim themselves now is gonna be great I think

[silk wasp]

Throw in Multistrike to cover the whole screen in bullshit

[quiet hearth]

well hopefully, for all I know they aim like old frost thorns

[silk wasp]

Every fight is Aberroth for the enemies

[quiet hearth]

Im also debating AE with the direct damage buff

That one might need to sit because omg the mana cost

wait....why does it say channel cost?

[peak zodiac]

this season seeming like a paladin season much more than vk tbh with spirit xylem going to the moon

[quiet hearth]

I dunno about that,I feel pally and VK will be neck and neck for the most part, with FG holding up his 2h in one hand like a participation trophy

[cinder echo]

Will smite warpath good ?

[vestal mirage]

It's always good

[quiet hearth]

Should be fine for most things but you cant just rely on those smites as they are 1/s, gotta get like Palarus out there

I keep forgetting about Apathy when I need mana regen

[rocky yoke]

Hello therem question on Void Cleave. Converted it in fire. Now does the node Crushing Echo get converted to fire in this?

this one

The conversion says "All Void Cleave's BASE void damage gets converted..."

[silk wasp]

No

[rocky yoke]

thank you

[quiet hearth]

I wonder if we can get enough CDR for movement skills to get VC fairly spamable

napkin math says no, because 4s is a long cd, you'd need what like 200% just to hit a 1s cd?

[silk wasp]

It's 5s as a traversal

[quiet hearth]

cant do it as a traversal, guile only affects movement skills

or do traversal still count as movement

[silk wasp]

ngl I didn't know there was a difference

[quiet hearth]

traversal means it will put other movement skills on CD

regular movement does not

[silk wasp]

You can get it down to almost 2s with 2 t7 affixes and 5 points in valiant charge. Any more than that and you're probably giving up more than you gain

Actually, I forgot about Dark Pathway. You can skip one of those

[quiet hearth]

We have guile now for more CD, so maybe, it wouldnt be for anything serious just running around

[silk wasp]

Does the cooldown start when the animation starts or finishes? 🤔

VC is slow af, you might get animation locked if the cooldown is too short

[quiet hearth]

shame aberroths sceptre removes the movement tag

I think it's immediately upon use but not certain

[silk wasp]

If you have HH Cleric's Hammer and Searing Light, does it instantly consume the buff from Hellish Chasm?

[quiet hearth]

It should if it doesnt count as channeled Id think

[waxen nymph]

Usually they have both tags

[quiet hearth]

ah ok, well dont really need to convert it to that in the first place unless with this Id think

honestly the real issue is how do you build defense since you're killing your armor and get no dodge

[silk wasp]

This plan probably works better with Lunge. At least you'd get invuln while moving and damage scaling from dex

[quiet hearth]

It really wont

Lunge has terrible scaling

you'd be better off using Javalin and banner rush xD

[silk wasp]

You already weren't killing anything stacking 100s of dex with a str move

[quiet hearth]

I needed just enough dex to get by on, and you can still scale VC with Vit

for some reason

[silk wasp]

Guile is 0.3% cooldown per point so you need 100 to get the same benefit as a single t7 cooldown affix on boots or belt

[wooden monolith]

goodbye 2T7 gear !

or 3t7

[quiet hearth]

It's really needing to know how much cdr I would need, and then seeing what I'd have to do from there.

arent there diminishing returns on CDR too?

Not that it would matter as I dont think we can hit 800% cdr

[gusty abyss]

Anything has diminishing returns if stacked with itself. In your case 100% CDRS is like 100% more damage as you can use it twice where you could once before. 200% CDRS is like 200% more damage as you can use it three times where you could use it once before.

[quiet hearth]

I might could make it work with lunge, but VC not so much sadly

[uneven gorge]

1. A lot of cooldown skills have a way to remove the cooldown entirely, or 2) The cooldown skill is used for its utility, not its damage. Like a movement skill or Abyssal Echoes. Even for Smelters Wrath, you spend more time in the casting animation than you are limited by the cooldown, so CDR isn't even much more uptime

[gusty abyss]

the use case is void cleave no?

[uneven gorge]

Yes, VC benefits, but it doesn't scale with dex. The opportunity cost of investing in dex to get any meaningful benefit out of guile would reduce your damage if anything. Plus now you're also squishier thanks to less armour

Honestly, yeah, it seems best with Lunge if anything

[gusty abyss]

I dont think lunge has the required multi's to be viable.

[uneven gorge]

I never said it would be good, it's just what guile is suited for out of all sentinel skills

[quiet hearth]

You can scale the dmg with Vit, and you might not even need that much dex, at 4s, you'd need what...200% cdr to hit 1s?

But, it might be worth using lunge along side VC to reset the CD, since it will also have a lowered CD.

[vale ravine]

VC is either damage, or movement, not much has changed there imo

[quiet hearth]

I'll have to tinker with it once I have the gear and such, because how hard corruptions are to get and work with is up in the air still. Will be a fun project at least.

Actually, with that experimental restore cd of traversal skills on belts, and FG always find potion nodes. There might be a way

[gusty abyss]

300% cdrs would be 4 uses per 4 seconds or 1s cooldown.

[urban phoenix]

Yeah, 200% would be 1.33.

[quiet hearth]

ignite, bleed, frostbite, electrify, poison, time rot, are there any other dots?

[silk wasp]

Doom

[uneven gorge]

Every dot sentinel can access in some way (I think): Abyssal Decay, Bleed, Damned, Doom, Electrify, Frostbite, Future Strike, Ignite, Laceration, Plague, Poison, Spirit Plague, Spreading Flames, Time Rot.

[orchid juniper]

future strike barely exists anymore, it's like only on that one Anomaly node isn't it?

[gusty abyss]

Also relic:

😄

[quiet hearth]

I meant in class but storing this away to see how many I can put on one build and still have enough damage to actually do content. It might be a thing with all these changes now.

right now I just gotta decide what sent build I wanna start out with so I can decide among that, Channel tornado shaman, or Lich Bombies

[orchid flint]

So what’s the best way to level a void knight? Rive healing hands?

[cursive compass]

We need healing hands void conversion

[trim badge]

and work with warpath 😛

[tacit zealot]

does the aura also get the damage increase?

[austere frost]

Yes

[quiet hearth]

I would be so mad if that happened

[peak zodiac]

why lmao

[alpine egret]

Will start tomorrow in HC for the first time, any advice between Judgement aura Paladin and Warpath VK ? (goal will be 500+ corru and normal abberoth which should not be too difficult as I already have experience in SC)

[peak zodiac]

judgement aura is gonna be way tankier and easier to gear

[quiet hearth]

Void doesnt need to be in everything for one

[austere frost]

Yeah but healing hands should get a void conversion

[quiet hearth]

it really shouldnt

[uneven gorge]

I'd be fine with just a void cosmetic

[austere frost]

In the same way that multi strike needs a void conversion

[peak zodiac]

still plenty of skills without void conversion even on sentinel

[uneven gorge]

nah, multistrike needs a lightning conversion

[austere frost]

Both to be fair

Lightning needs more love

[peak zodiac]

and if we are talking about globally it's one of the most underrepresented damage types

[quiet hearth]

I would 100% be behind more lightning

[austere frost]

We have void mage 🤣

[quiet hearth]

Also VC raging aura converted to fire when EHG

[gusty abyss]

I have some hope that the sigil system will allow converting for skills that dont yet have it.

[peak zodiac]

i'd be fine with void mtx, i would prefer conversion, i just want my all purple build to actually be all purple

would really not do much for dps but i hate the colors of healing hands clashing with my build

[quiet hearth]

Nah, they are gonna roll all of those into the paradox classes to make people pay xD

[austere frost]

Being limited by them actually adding conversions suck to be honest like we need something to allow conversions outside of skill trees cause it may take years to see a conversion like rive took a while to actually get one

[peak zodiac]

sadly i would pay money just to make healing hands purple for my build

[quiet hearth]

They have the space in items and such, some of these would be great for set bonuses

I mean, an MTX would be great for that

But I imagine it's all gonna be AI nonsense from here on out

[peak zodiac]

ya like i said i'd be fine with mtx, though i'd prefer an actual conversion (even if it's tied to an item)

[fossil meteor]

I came up with a build idea last night in the fever dream that is being me, and asleep, and I want someone to sanity check this for me. I don't have a link to share, just a concept.

What if you play Smite caster Paladin with Rule of the Simoon and Harbinger of the Stars, then scale for fire damage and crit?

You lose the ability to use the Meteor tree, but you gain the tankiness of a Paladin, plus uniques with more support for your chosen spells than a Sorcerer might.

Something like Smite/Healing Hands/Holy Aura/Volatile Reversal/Flex, perhaps?

[quiet hearth]

I mean, no reason you cant

[austere frost]

The belt of meteors seems like fast way to dump mana for devotion amulet scaling

[fossil meteor]

That's one application of it, yeah.

[peak zodiac]

i wouldn't expect tornadoes or meteors to contribute to damage in any meaningful way

and yea coc belt is good for devotion but judgement gloves are prob just better than simoon i would think

or blood mage gloves if you need to cap crit

[fossil meteor]

I wouldn't either, but they are things that are independent skills and can therefore crit for the belt.

Also the tornadoes shred fire res.

[peak zodiac]

true, but there are probably better avenues to get res shred, i would think

mana dumping with meteor belt on its own shouldn't be a problem

[austere frost]

I would probably run blood mages in endgame and judgement gloves early midgame too good stats

[fossil meteor]

I just think the belt is cool and I was wondering if there was a way to play it outside of mage. It's clearly designed for that and it's fine, but it's also fun to explore the unexplored too.

We don't have to be stuck in one class, so I was looking for something a bit outside the box. Something that is okay if it's bad.

[austere frost]

It can maybe clear trash without the tree it wont do anything bossing wise,that belt is for dumping mana outside of mage

[peak zodiac]

i mean tbh i think that the maxroll smite paladin is using that belt to dump mana

[fossil meteor]

The plan was Smites that proc Healing Hands as a damage spell, and as many subskills as possible that can trigger Meteors.

Then we need a way to keep mana up, so I was leaning towards Bluefeather Band because Smite can cost 0 with a wand.

[peak zodiac]

you don't need smite to cost 0

plus any caster weapon probably gets you there anyways

[fossil meteor]

Bluefeather wants three 0 costs in a row though, right?

[peak zodiac]

why bluefeather tho? it'll kill your flat from devotion

[austere frost]

You desperately need smite to cost mana or it wont do damage needed in endgame

[fossil meteor]

Now I'm glad I asked. I'm learning something.

[austere frost]

Yo dai do you run devotion on vk version smite ,aor its just not needed?

[peak zodiac]

nah, you have like 300 flat already so i'd rather have all the other nice stuff from like nihilis or omnis

plus without devotion you can go seed helm for free

[austere frost]

I am not sure which version its the worst but between fire and lightning i think fire does the least damage so you need devotion scaling i may be wrong on this

Yeah more damage smite loves plus to skills true

[fossil meteor]

I'm usually a phys melee build player so all this is new to me.

[peak zodiac]

smite is my most played build, i think paladin is probably gonna be better this season with xylem gigabuff at least for selfcast, but vk is cooler

[fossil meteor]

My original plan was for VK, but it looks like fire Smite isn't compatible with most echo passive nodes?

[peak zodiac]

yea i mean for sure you go void smite on vk

[austere frost]

Void smite or autobomber hits different

[fossil meteor]

I've come across the term autobomber a lot, but I've never seen it explained.
What does it actually mean?

[radiant tangle]

The Bane of Winter buff looks interesting too.

[peak zodiac]

build that automates some portion of its dmg so you can kill enemies while moving in maps with less input

[fossil meteor]

So, skills that proc other skills?

[peak zodiac]

not necessarily

[quiet hearth]

I might just run divine bolts until I can get Volcanus because I love the idea of that thing, now that the shards track it should be so much better

[peak zodiac]

dev orb is common for autobombing builds bc it autocasts while moving

[peak zodiac]

yea it might be good but ill let someone else cook that idk lol trying to math it out seems kinda annoying

[quiet hearth]

Dev orb with the new AE could be fun too, just spam AE and blow things up with Void rifts

[austere frost]

I ll be fine for clear since its omega buffed im crit multi but needs more damage the void winter

[radiant tangle]

Do you run Fissures as passive damage with your self-cast Smite?

Yeah, the AE changes were not expected. They definitely want to push that skill with that high of a DE now.

[quiet hearth]

It's up there for something I want to play, i just dont think you can to start because that mana cost is oof

[peak zodiac]

nah, they don't do much for dps, super point heavy and they kill mana tank

[radiant tangle]

I am just bummed that the Void Smite and the Xylem buff don't mix. Sucks that Void makes it lose the Attunment scaling.

[peak zodiac]

i mean you don't have to the vit scaling isn't from the smite tree but paladin just makes a lot more sense with xylem

[quiet hearth]

I can see fire AE with xy

[peak zodiac]

the attunement node in AE only gives you increased healing though iirc

[quiet hearth]

The fire converstion does but the node after it changes the scaling to att

[peak zodiac]

oh i must have missed that in the full tooltip

[quiet hearth]

teh fire vk sub skills are weird to me

[radiant tangle]

Yup. Was looking at this. Pity we don't have an overheal ward conversion. I just don't think the fire version would be worth much except to drain mana still.

[quiet hearth]

You still likely want to go VK for the echoes, but a case can definitely be made about Pally healing 25% of his HP each cast

[peak zodiac]

idk if you can make AE no cooldown sustainable mana wise on pala without a generator though

[radiant tangle]

Smite is the generator.

[quiet hearth]

We have apathy now

[radiant tangle]

Get the mana per smite cast on helm and the nodes in passive tree.

[peak zodiac]

it can be, but i'm not playing a generator spender abyssal echoes build tbh lol

sounds clunky for me, but i'm a pretty big generator spender hater these days

[radiant tangle]

Lol, fair. Can be done vs. enjoyable to play are 2 different things there.

I still truly think Multistrike VK w/ Bane of Winter for flat melee scaling and Smite conversion of swords in MS is worth it. The melee scaling flat makes MS better, plus applies insanely well got Smite. Add in a 600% DE on Bane projectiles and you get 1,300+ flat for that alone just with T7 Flat Melee Void. Add in T7 Chill attackera and you get over 200 Crit Multi now too. Rot on tree and items gives you roughly 40% more damage.

Gives 160ish flat spell to Smite too.

You would need a 3LP with triple T7 though. You absolutely have to have T7 melee attack speed and then need T7 Void Melee Flat. Highest Chill Chance on Hit that you can get after that.

[grand pagoda]

Question for the Pros: I am aiming for a lightning crit Javelin Build. The only builds I find online either go elictrify/DOT (dont wanna) or physical with Sirpins - but why? Besides some Phys pen (which is easily topped by lightpen/shock etc.) I cant find any benefits for that. Pala tree has some great supports for lightning with crit and an Inflated Javelin skill level also has more options on lightning. So what am I missing ?
Maxroll build even suggests lightning supporting rings!

[quiet hearth]

does efficiency happen before or after less cost of skills?

[radiant tangle]

You would want to swap to FG. FG has all the Physical/Fire Throwing scaling. You would want to double dip with STR and DEX stacking then. Gives you the most scaling for Physical on Javeline and in tree. Then use the 2h weapon + shield for being tanky and for abusing the insane 2H crit scaling on FG w/ STR.

[inland quarry]

you know what? warpath vk is looking sexy right now. warpath effect limited to 10s is actually a buff. i couldn't even last 10 seconds before running out of mana lol.

[austere frost]

Lightning crit javelin pally is better than fg version

[inland quarry]

I could actually warpath forever at this rate. omg.

[austere frost]

The real benefit of the nerf is that now you dont need to get mana affix on every slot

[quiet hearth]

It's 50/50 really, a lot of stuff got hit but being able to sustain it as a non vk is nice. Decent middle of the road honestly

[inland quarry]

the best part about that is that you DONT HAVE TO START FROM 0% DMG

[radiant tangle]

Even better.... get void skill % reduction in idol effect scaling... and then get warpath AoE.... have it cover the entire screen!

[inland quarry]

every 10 seconds

[austere frost]

So you can use stuff like crit multi,increase void ,strength and that stuff now after you reach the good mana point

[inland quarry]

can you elaborate?

vk might be squishy af, but if you can hit the whole screen while kiting, that's kind survivable.

[radiant tangle]

New Idol Board with good suffix/prefix roll can give you up to 82% effect for suffix/prefix. Both T7. Both T5 is still 50%. Run the Primal Relic too and you get 110-142% effect increase for idol suffix/prefix.

Pyramidal can have 5 of these slots. 2 1x3 and 3 1x4.

[austere frost]

You aint squishy anymore with new passive tree like you can have over 5 k easily with vk warpath

[inland quarry]

i think erasing strike is still better, but it takes a lot longer to get going.

[radiant tangle]

3 of the Warpath AoE Idols @ 20% and 110-142% effect is 126-145% Warpath AoE.

[misty junco]

How much mana would we need for that?

[misty junco]

This is also nice but what affix should we be using instead?

[inland quarry]

use the primal helmet, and the urzils pride armor and you should be able to get a lot of dmg. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOw81mNw

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,928, Regen: 31.6/s
▸ Mana: 153.18, Regen: 0/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 39 Str / 18 Dex / 12 Int / 22 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 91% / 83% / 336% / 43% / 51% / 50% / 50%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 536
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (168)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 33% (1,671)
▸ Block Chance: 24%, Mitigation: 28% (585)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 60%

Used skills:

Warpath / Symbols of Hope / Anomaly / Devouring Orb

[quiet hearth]

how does Xys mana cost reduction work? does it hit the base? or is it after efficiency?

[austere frost]

Depend on slot ,crit multi, void damage,vitality ,strength,

[inland quarry]

roughly 500% mana regen, which is doable with cheap gear

[quiet hearth]

So, I think I've managed to get juuust ahead of the 1s cost

[radiant tangle]

Sorry 3x1 idols, can still run 3 of them though.

[misty junco]

Regen? Don't we have void well for that

Whatever the name is

[austere frost]

You do not damage with this though

Idk what that planner is

[inland quarry]

that's just a rough draft build lol

hastily put together

[misty junco]

Is there a good VK Warpath guide?

[austere frost]

OK 🤣 was scared

[inland quarry]

the helmet + 500% regen should net you about 45mp per hit, about 90 mana per sec. if you get the 45% channel reduction, you can go down to a cost of 88 mana/sec

[austere frost]

A friend had one linked before its gonna change since mana aint that good anymore

[misty junco]

Am I mistaken or do we not regenerate mana during the channel?

[inland quarry]

the trick is to gain mana per hit

[austere frost]

T8 reduction cost is pretty much mandatory

Void well to sustain

[misty junco]

Ok, do you have it somewhere?

[austere frost]

And you have your splitter and like maybe increase mana on chest with warpath affix,if it can get third affix you get health%

[radiant tangle]

Any GG Sentinel gurus here? Does Multistrike echoing still trigger Smites as replacements because of the tree with the echoes?

[austere frost]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Vuthia/character/Unholyslayer

Keep in mind some stuff needs to change since mana aint needed as much so up to you to figure that

[misty junco]

Ty

[true raptor]

Smells like RF

I like RF

[peak zodiac]

yes

[peak zodiac]

rf that you giga snapshot

[quiet hearth]

So with good gear I think I can sustain casing fire AE as a pally 2x a second

[misty junco]

Yeah I saw that too

Very interested in this

[true raptor]

Snapshot how?

With Javelin?

[wooden monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifjGi_ha3xc

[peak zodiac]

javelin, julra rings, other stuff that i'm forgetting

could technically snapshot weaver belt too but sounds clunk

[true raptor]

Julra Rings is a good shout actually

[wooden monolith]

i still don t know what i ll play tomorow, wanted to play rive vk, but sworcatcher got nerfed...

[misty junco]

Yeah it still has a lot of mana on gear

[austere frost]

Its was op in this league next league change it a bit

[misty junco]

I hate snapshotting

[misty junco]

How come?

Is it still gonna be strong btw?

[austere frost]

Well warpath had unlimited scaling so the more mana more spin for longer so you did way more damage

[iron basin]

i love the visual on the repeat node

[austere frost]

Yeah just gonna need corruption on idols other slots,warpath will always be best fsrmer in the game no matter what

[peak zodiac]

i mean it's only really nerfed at top end with gear swapping

[radiant tangle]

I wish I could convert Javelin to Void. Would make so many cool builds.

[quiet hearth]

it would be such screen cancer, but definitely you could sustain 1s AE's without much issue, then you just fall back on smite if you need to.

[iron basin]

i was playing around with it before the patch notes announced it was getting buffs

it's pretty neat looking

[radiant tangle]

Lol.... should find a way to do Warpath VK but then go mana staking. Add in Smite auto-cast then use Devotion for the memes.

[radiant tangle]

Is their any way to abuse the absurd healing that does with the scaling?

[iron basin]

other than basically being another kind of judgement puddle? I can't really think of a way

[quiet hearth]

You could take the sacrifice node in smite and not get 100% and just alternate between them

[iron basin]

i wish there was a way to get smite on spell hit

[inland quarry]

lol we're all worrying about mana cost of warpath, but then i realized if we can sustain erasing strike (which costs over 200mp/sec), we can sustain warpath.

[quiet hearth]

are there even hp dumps in this game?

[radiant tangle]

Only downside with the Warpath is getting more crit out of now. With it capping at 10 seconds that is rough because now it caps your crit scaling.

[iron basin]

like a way to remove your HP for value?

[quiet hearth]

because otherwise you're just gonna make sure you cant get oneshot and outheal anything trying to kill you with this

[radiant tangle]

Acoltye has them all. Lol.

[iron basin]

lich has a bunch of ways

[inland quarry]

since when did warriors fury have crit?

[quiet hearth]

I meant for sent obviously come on XD

[misty junco]

Is Warpath still gonna be S tier

[inland quarry]

if it wasn't before, it definitely is now

[iron basin]

isn't there something with rebuke that makes it remove some amount of your max HP

[radiant tangle]

I mean, still solid if you stack up like 6k health then. Just cast that under you and you shouldn't die to even DoTs.

[misty junco]

Wasn't it better before though

Corruption looks like it's gonna be very interesting

[radiant tangle]

There some SPICY corruptions!

[misty junco]

Is there a list of all corruptions

[iron basin]

you can see what's available on LETools per item slot, but we don't know the exact weightings

[quiet hearth]

I'm so tempted to just go lazy mode and go warlock, which summons zombies, which summon explosives shaes and cast aoe marrow shards while I run around like an idiot

[radiant tangle]

My guess is insane for some of them. That Armor Thorns one is going to be crazy rare I bet. Same with +1 on ammy and then the Regen as Ward.

Anyone here going Thorns for a farmer still?

[iron basin]

primalist chat is two doors down

[radiant tangle]

I mained Thorns last season and got an Uber kill. Insanely tanky. Like 6-7k ward from HH tanky.

[empty path]

This season I'm between start fire ignite minions FG and then transitioning into Phalanx javelin FG or staying Ignite minions FG for the huge buff to sunforged set

[radiant tangle]

I am going to probably do Smite Fissures to start, or Multistrike Electrify. Then either move to Thorns or Void Smite.

Might yet my plans off a cliff though and make an Acolyte last minute. Lmao

[empty path]

Last season as I was in late game with sunforged set I would get 450+ ignite stack now maybe it can be around 1000+

[silk wasp]

No MA cosmetic this season. Too bad for Wrouk

[wooden monolith]

what will be the best bossing sentinel build ? i am not sure

still time rot builds i guess

[austere frost]

Warpath is and will always be s tier no matter what the void knight version though,so dont worry about nerfs and such since corruption and new changes bring buffs as well

[wooden monolith]

i don t like warpath for bossing, i mean its strong, but my rive vk was faster, but rive has been nerfed, so i don t know what to play

[loud quest]

Erasing strike still as reliable as ever.

[wooden monolith]

swordcatcher has been nerfed, rampacy must sacrifice too much res/hp, don t like it

[loud quest]

No idea then. Es vk only sentinel build that interests me. It BONKS

[vestal mirage]

I'm interested in trying to make echoes a main skill ability with crit with the buffs it got

Think that's what I'm gonna be doing

[wooden monolith]

i tried es vk for bossing, rive vk was way stronger ^^ UA kill was 1'30 for rive, 2'30/3min for ES

[austere frost]

My buddy can kill uber in like 80 seconds on warpath so doesn't seem bad to me

[wooden monolith]

yeah, with 3T7 gear...

[austere frost]

You still skip the less damage no cooldown node on es?

I mean new warpath ist gonna kick ass

[wooden monolith]

time rot build ?

[austere frost]

Ehg cant balance well for nor reason the forcing people to have to convert vitality into frenzy

So you better get those 3t7 slams for health cause only way rive is playable now and stronger is to give up on the vitality scaling and get the frenzy belt

[wooden monolith]

3T7 is dead

[austere frost]

No es

[inland quarry]

i'm gonna try 75% parry vk erasing strike build after i get the warpath build out of my system lol.

[austere frost]

we will see we farmed a ton the cof group

[iron basin]

full unga bunga ES takes the no CD node iirc

time rot keeps the CD

[wooden monolith]

what build is that ?

[austere frost]

You can skip node to be honest but need to test it out

[inland quarry]

i think clotho's needle will be pretty damn strong with the weavers set.

[loud quest]

Indeed. Can't sit still in high corruption. Bonk warp bonk warp.

[austere frost]

Yeah maxroll still far behind I think your version is better

[loud quest]

Gonna be an mf to gear tho with imprint changes.

Yah, pure void is just better all around.

And it's not even optimized since Ive learned so much about the game mechanics with my spellblade. Lotta room for growth.

Happy truesight glass effective level reduced tho

[inland quarry]

did we ever get patch notes?

[loud quest]

That was a difficult piece to farm lo2

Lp2

[austere frost]

I like listening to others and learning why they do stuff ,you can get to what 1.25 seconds per use that seems good when you booking hard

[loud quest]

Where have you been?

[inland quarry]

work lol

[austere frost]

Read them in news link

One week behind 🤣

[loud quest]

1.2 or 1.3 seconds with anomaly up?

[austere frost]

True

[loud quest]

Anomaly is always up tho. It's duration exceeds its cool down time.

The only gripe with that build is the 2 minute Uber time.

[austere frost]

Yeah with new corruption can be made stronger although i dont love this 1 lp meta corr😅

[loud quest]

Shiroyryu92 can do it in like 70 seconds with the more conventional build.

Geared equally

We hates it so much.

Julra is bad enough.

Then that.

[wooden monolith]

what build are talking about ? i did not skip the no cooldown node, why do you say that ?

[austere frost]

I am talking about erasing strike

Rive is f

[wooden monolith]

rive is way stronger than ES

[austere frost]

You have to convert vitality no choice and also take frenzy belt

[loud quest]

Frankydelobo - Baalzevuv - Character Profiles - Last Epoch Tools https://share.google/ejwqlmQtfqRHBe6r5

[austere frost]

Its not man stop talking about bossing only

[loud quest]

Rive doesn't wipe 75% of the screen.

[austere frost]

General es smokes rive same way warpath smokes both

[wooden monolith]

i am looking for a bossing only build, that why i am talking about bossing lol

[loud quest]

Aye, it's true. No one makes me feel weaker than invandrarna.

[wooden monolith]

i have warpath for mapping, looking for a bossing builkd

[loud quest]

Sentinel ain't the class for Uber anymore

[austere frost]

Rive is dead now ,you gotta sacrifice so much survivability to get ahead if why they couldn't just nerf it a bit swordcatcher

[loud quest]

Haven't seen the math on bear.

[austere frost]

Go play abo literally ez

[wooden monolith]

yeah, that s why i am sad

[austere frost]

I did 700isj ubers this season with it so ez and fast

[loud quest]

I almost killed Uber a couple times in under a minute today with my spellblade frozen orb glass cannon, tho.

Abom and bear are a great team.

[austere frost]

Damm uber drops a million gloves i need to nemesis 16 tabs cause ehg cant give us 2 eggs per nemesis 😅

[loud quest]

Ikr

[austere frost]

Its stuff people dont think cause they dont engage with endgame systems but is very apparent when you do

[loud quest]

Bear had an average 35 second kill time for me. Lucky crit and phase skipping to last got me down to 20.

[austere frost]

But hey let's criticize the minmaxers lol

[loud quest]

Couldn't beat chadilo's 11 second time tho

[austere frost]

Maybe that was insane rng

That bear kill was beautiful

[loud quest]

It's luck

Hit hard enough to leave just enough before phase change, then hit so incredibly hard it knocks uberroth to EoTT instead.

[austere frost]

Most of the time we are waiting on phases damage reduction cause he dies so fast after they are done

[loud quest]

I finished the season with 3k aberroth / uber kills tho.

[vale ravine]

Lol

[loud quest]

Not one goddamned LP2 sw drop

[vale ravine]

Time rot yall

It didnt go anywhere

[austere frost]

Yeah I am at like 1.5 k and honestly I think loot uber drops is not very good,most of my upgrades come from nemesis turtle

[loud quest]

I thought timerot jav nerfed to hell from 1.2

[vale ravine]

Didnt say jav

[austere frost]

Erasing strike or the shield throw build time rot are pretty op

[vale ravine]

Ye and i dont know if you have seen those time rot duration idols with the new altars lol

[austere frost]

I got 4 dropped naturally like lmao ,for sure if you mg its gonna be way harder

[loud quest]

I didn't know timerot still had exceptional uber potential. noone I played with has killed Uber with one.

I MEAN NO OFFENSE MR TIMEROT

[vale ravine]

It has 2 seconds uber potential with new idols, will see

[austere frost]

Oh it has like 1:30 uber kill time the es version with very min max can do it faster since more damage

[loud quest]

I did get LP4 foot of the mountain last season tho. Heh. Can't gripe I guess

[austere frost]

Haha nice

We will see for one shots we already have black hole since detonating arrow dead

[wooden monolith]

noobzor is going time rot this season, we ll see

[loud quest]

All the theory crafting for idol / corruption breaking mechanics.

[vale ravine]

Ye I mean im just quoting the legend myself as well, seen the numbers, they look good

[loud quest]

Possible, but will be hard. We are however a dedicated crew.

[austere frost]

Well if it can destroy Uber in seconds its gonna be him to find out

[loud quest]

And it will be done.

Gotta be on season, tho. Offline / legacy clickbait videos don't count.

[austere frost]

Yep all online for me

Any build can be s tier if you put t7 corruption on every slot on 3t7 items

[loud quest]

Aye. Mostly tho I am excited for spellblade.

The class tree and volcanic orb changes are hawt.

[austere frost]

Yeah looks good

[marsh bronze]

Is it gonna beat out lb rm?

Also why did they even nerf lb there are classes that do way higher corruption than mage lol.

[loud quest]

Yep, fire aura will be fotm for mages I think

And I am certain frostbite stacking will beat rm lb in dps

[marsh bronze]

Nice

[flat snow]

so how are sentinals shaping up?

[austere frost]

Frozen will find a way to make it op again so dont worry too much about it

[silk wasp]

More of the same

[loud quest]

Because RM LB was so good, no one did jack shit with other builds. Meta builds create stagnation and suck the fun out of games.

[loud quest]

I can only speak to es vk. Will be the same, old reliable. It's lovely.

[radiant tangle]

Lol, Falconer has been like this for literally years and they haven't done anything remotely needed to bring them inline.

Falconer Ballista will be 95% of the corruption page in 2 weeks.

Meanwhile they obliterate stuff constantly for no valid reason so that it struggles to even push past 500-600cc.

That is why the Thorns nerf, by legitimately 60% across the board in 4 different ways, makes me so confused.

[silk wasp]

I knew Thorns was getting hit but they really pulled out the low orbit ion cannon

Really doesn't help that ST got hit in the crossfire

[radiant tangle]

Yeah, that one flat out peeved me off. Made me curious how much they are actually thinking things threw in CT vs. just listening to content creators squabble in there.

Made zero sense to drops something that already struggles a ton by 33%, and not find a way to address it. Would have been a simple thing to just make it +2-3 per flat 10 to make it feel decent.

I asked for years in many different platforms for them to address shield throw retaliate trigger with the Sigeon's as well to make self-bounce better and it has all been ignored. Lol

That self-bounce retaliate trigger is basically useless on bosses. Literally triggers once every 40 seconds or so... lol

[quick heath]

ive decided on babblingbikes bleed hammers, cant wait to start 🙂

i feel like bleed hammers is the righteous fire of last epoch, good for newbs and the elderly

[quiet hearth]

Judgement aura is more that speed honestly

[vestal mirage]

I'm looking at the maxroll guide for abyssal echoes crit. why are they using the inevitable boots even if they're not using ES at all?

Sure it has high ms and vit, but is that really it

would it not just be better to have a good pair of citadel boots to help max out crit damage reduction

[clever hazel]

abyssal echoes is a vitality skill, and void knight gains more health per vit than anyone else

[vestal mirage]

you can just get vit on normal boots tho no? not as much I guess but t5 is still 7-8

[clever hazel]

you can do both, slam vitality on the inevitable boots

[vestal mirage]

oh that's a fair point

did not think about that

[clever hazel]

it's pretty common to use boots that just give the most movement speed possible + some useful stat for your build

[vestal mirage]

my only issue atm is that this build seems to want quite a few uniques. but it will prob still be fine as a starter

[empty path]

+775% Increased Damage Over Time from Idol Altar and idols It's pretty good?

[unreal niche]

Has anyone played both bleed and crit hammers?

[quiet hearth]

You mean as in two different builds or bleed crit at the same time?

[unreal niche]

2 different obviously haha

I was wondering which to choose to start with, but tbh it appears that the crit version is something youd convert to later

[quiet hearth]

No, there are builds that would do the latter there, but yes typically

You really can pick any hammer build and do ok, it's really strong

[iron basin]

it's a shame you can't use an offhand mace or axe

i wanna use gavel with the new bleed set axe

[quiet hearth]

because they hate maces

[iron basin]

guess there's nothing really stopping me from just using the axe and a strong sword offhand

[limpid badger]

I may just be judgement-pilled but that build looked like it killed so slowly. Granted he was at 800 corruption, but it felt worse than judgement, but maybe that's just me having an opinion.

[quick heath]

I havent had a look at judgement, or any other skills for that matter, any recommendations for a newbie whos only tried thorn totems?

I'm at totem main in poe1, but upheavel looks like too many buttons, and the thorn totems apparently isnt too strong

[iron basin]

storm totem is still pretty good

[limpid badger]

Hammers is definitely solid, I just am not a fan of the way the bleed build looked

[quick heath]

yes i played this variant a few seasons ago but got stuck trying to push it

would you recommend bleed hammers or storm totem

[iron basin]

do you care what class you play?

[quiet hearth]

aura judgement is literally just slamming the ground and running around burning things to death honestly

[limpid badger]

It's a few buttons cause you gotta hit the jav, and then snapshot the aura

[iron basin]

for a good starter build, bleed hammer is hard to go wrong with

[quick heath]

not really honestly, for me its important that it scales easily since im a newer player, nothing too complicated, and something i can push overtime, i like to stick with 1 character

[limpid badger]

But yeah it isn't like a complex build to run

[iron basin]

I'm bad to ask though because I'll play crappy meme builds and still enjoy myself

[limpid badger]

Same brother

It's all about the fun factor.

[quiet hearth]

You dont have to, it deals enough damage by itself until later in the game. It's still braindead simple

[iron basin]

if I don't cast Smelter's Wrath at least once this season then I've failed

[limpid badger]

Yeah that's fair. But big number go brr, lol

[quiet hearth]

very true

[iron basin]

aight do I start smelter's wrath or phys ghostflame

[quiet hearth]

phys ghostflame

[iron basin]

i've never actually done the channel while moving lawnmower version

i wanna do something where the ghostflame itself actually deals damage eventually

[limpid badger]

We have Righteous Fire at home

[iron basin]

nah that's witchfire relic

[limpid badger]

You right

[quiet hearth]

Could do WP flame burst into volcanus memes

[iron basin]

i need to try out bleed forge strike at some point

[quiet hearth]

it's so good

[iron basin]

it's got like 245% bleed pen on the tree

[quiet hearth]

Yep, can use AE to pop the bleeds on harder targets, it gets silly

[empty path]

Here some meme

[quiet hearth]

actually I remember talking about doing some FS detonating ground stuff but hell if I can remember what

[iron basin]

i've tried some detonating ground stuff in the past

it's annoying that FS's base damage is phys

[quiet hearth]

It can hit really hard

[iron basin]

yeah between the high ADE on FS and the extra hit from DG you can get a good chunk of damage out of it

[empty path]

Normally I like to have FS weapons for the free 2k ward

[iron basin]

i was trying out harmony of the first

[quiet hearth]

I was thinking the explode axe

[loud quest]

Rogue has innate dodge abilities. At high corruption, unless you're killing everything off-screen with Warpath, dodge is literally your only means to survive.

[unreal niche]

Would anyone happen to have a good bleed hammer filter?

[iron basin]

the wheel has spoken

[quiet hearth]

I should make one of those, I have a few builds I cant decide

[iron basin]

https://wheelofnames.com/

[quiet hearth]

the memes are ready, see what rgnesus has in store

[iron basin]

this is how my buddy and I pick our group-found league starts for PoE

[quiet hearth]

well, the wheel has spoken

[iron basin]

can't deny the wheel

[quiet hearth]

I mean, that is about the best one for, I dont need items and a single button press

[granite forge]

wouldn't this item be great for a forged guard forge weapon minion build? surprised its not used or am i missing something

[silk wasp]

It is good, yes

[quiet hearth]

I could have gotten the real meme build of guile stacking VC/Lunge and bouncing around between them

[unreal niche]

its used for crit hammers

cant decide on leveling... go with build-your-own filter by babblingBike, cursedboy's messy filter... or go for maxroll's jav leveling+filter, sigh

[empty path]

The wheel as chosen

[unreal niche]

oh damn, gl hf

[quiet hearth]

alright, well time to go make a planner around this nonsense

[silk wasp]

Waow! What a surprise!

[empty path]

[quiet hearth]

I dont feel this is meme enough, maybe go lich and NOT use lich form xD

[dusk laurel]

starting flay lich, but prob gonna make abyssal echos vk 2nd

[quiet hearth]

AE vk and pally are gonna be really strong.

[dusk laurel]

yah i didn't play much last season so wanted to play flay lich, plus since flay lich speed clears well i figure i can get a bunch of gear to make it really easy to gear the AE VK later

[topaz shell]

What do you think of this?

Stack Strength, convert it to Brutality, use the Primordial Frenzy Belt + Sword Catcher + a Relic with Perma Frenzy Corrupt Affix, it'll quintuple dip.

1)Increased Damage (attribute scaling)
2)Critical Multiplier (Champion of the Forge)
3)Fire & Physical Penetration (Lethal Strikes)
4)More Damage per Mana Cost (this one triple dip: once for Brutality, once for Crushing Blows, once for Corrupt Affix on weapon) which synergizes with high mana cost skills like Smelter's Wrath
5)20 to 30 flat damage from Sword Catcher is increased by Frenzy Effect which is increased by Brutality because of the belt (you might use Rampancy too for even more Frenzy Effect and flat damage)

Now i let you figure out the mana sustain and defenses lol

[iron basin]

could be good. that's a lot of flat damage which you desperately need for SW with how big the ADE is on it

i don't like planning around corruption without knowing the weights

[alpine canopy]

Real

Unless it's just 1 build enabling one on a common thing

Then maybe

[iron basin]

yeah, agreed

I think the attribute corruptions aren't too bad, especially if you're using a unique amulet. pretty easy to replicate those

[alpine canopy]

Exactly, and EHG rarely makes build-enabling things inaccessible

[topaz shell]

I mean, the attribute corruptions destroy your defenses. In my example you lose increased armor from Str and health from Vit, that's too much, but at the same time i'm too tempted to make a build like this just because it scales so many offensive things with Str alone.

[iron basin]

no i meant like I don't think they're too bad to get even with lower weights

[topaz shell]

To be honest i'm tempted to make a gazillion builds lol

[iron basin]

just because they go on your amulet which is pretty replacable

[topaz shell]

Too many new shiny toys to play with.

Don't know where to start.

[iron basin]

but building around weapon corruptions, idol corruptions, etc

seems like asking for disappointment

unless you already have it in the game

[uneven gorge]

Behold, the squishy tank: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6P4dDma

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Version:

Season 4: Shattered Omens / 1.4

Class:

Sentinel (25) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (63) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,325, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 115.51, Regen: 21.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 72%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 193 Str / 27 Dex / 36 Int / 41 Att / 34 Vit
▸ Resistances: 116% / 87% / 124% / 124% / 106% / 78% / 68%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 1,204
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (155)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,056)
▸ Block Chance: 99%, Mitigation: 51% (2,168)

Used skills:

Shield Bash / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands / Abyssal Echoes / Vengeance

[iron basin]

oh hey LEtools has the alt-attributes now

sick

[urban phoenix]

Part of the reason I want to just go sunforged, rather easy to get, can spam corrupts until I get the one I want.

[topaz shell]

Ah, i understand what you mean now. But the only corrupt affixes i'm using are from amulet (which always comes with 2 attributes afaik), weapon and relic. The relic doesn't need to be high tier, a tier 1 corrupt affix works. The weapon just needs to be tier 4, not 7. That's it, that's all the corruption i'm using in my planning.

[urban phoenix]

at least until I can start spamming crafted ones

[uneven gorge]

Ye I'm just planning as if corruption doesn't exist (besides the amulet)

[silk wasp]

The only corruption I’m banking on is frenzy on evade for idol because the pool is small and Throne has no rng

[dusk laurel]

we got the weights, check lizardirl's last video

and as for the corruption, its 75% chance to hit a good affect, and 50% of that 75% of the time u will hit a corrupted affix

[vale ravine]

you use the corrupt ammy for uber(s), and another without the stat change for mapping, easy

[timber edge]

How did Erasing Strike survive no nerfs O_O

[iron basin]

Yeah that's not enough for me to build around an affix. That's definitely an end game minmax tool

[vale ravine]

ES was already nerfed lol

[dusk laurel]

i mean with those rates u should be able to find the corrupted affix ur wanting without absurd amounts of grinding

[timber edge]

Was it really thoough 😛 It's still completely busted lmao

[iron basin]

If there's only 6 options in the pool for your item, it's still a 6% chance just to see the affix

6.25%

That's not enough to build around considering you also have to find whatever unique you're wanting to corrupt

[silk wasp]

It helps that there aren’t a lot of dead affixes

[iron basin]

Yeah but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people planning their entire build around getting specific uniques with specific corrupts. It's something you shouldn't plan for imo

If you're on MG go nuts I guess

[dusk laurel]

i mean i play COF everytime and the idea of planning a build around a like 1lp unique with a specific affix doesn't seem unattainable especially if ur target farming it

[vestal mirage]

I always tell myself I'll try mg this time around and then I always play cof instead

[dusk laurel]

i hate dealing with player economies and also just really like how CoF functions so don't think i'll ever play MG in this game unless they make CoF just feel like complete ass

[vestal mirage]

that's fair

[topaz shell]

The problem is Uberroth fight needs a lot of repositioning which is hard to do when channeling Smelter's Wrath, on top of that the amulet strip me of my defenses. If i were to use Exulis only for Uber, then i would have to replace SW for a skill more mobile that can also multiple dip from Strength and Mana Cost.

[vale ravine]

fair but not every build was made to uber easily

im personally not a fan of trying to beat that fight with defenses lol

(except on judgement)

[dusty elm]

I want to play Erasing Strike, can I level with Void Knight? I don’t want to respec

[grizzled mirage]

psure u can either go off the bat with ES or go Warpath until decent mana and Splitter

80-90 patch gonna be rough without the axe and decent mana though, Warpath might feel better :p

[vale ravine]

you just play regular old school ES wo time loop til you sort out mana

[fallow echo]

sooo we login warpath/erasing strike again?

[frank slate]

i wonder how hard will be to aquire reflect body

[dusty elm]

You have a leveling guide for ES?

[rocky yoke]

Anyone knows if Pious Offering in judgment skill affect Consecrated ground?

It seems its not, but some build guides for Judgment aura select this for damage, don't understand why

[austere frost]

Yes it does

A whoping 4600% more damage with impossible gear to achieve from that node alone rofl

[rocky yoke]

thank you

[wooden monolith]

It s realy bad. I wont corrupt any 2 lp gear, i won t corrupt my 2 t7 gear, i ll just skip the corruption.

This is so bad for legacy players

[torn ice]

such things are made for season mostly, you can always find new items that are similar strength and try to get it even better

[gleaming rock]

With any gambling on gear, have a backup (or gamble the backup)

[wooden monolith]

Yep, but some people don t like playing season. they won t corrupt their 2t7/3t7 gear, and they killed the imprint farming, so they just killed legacy

[torn ice]

thats a choice you make when you play legacy, season play is what keeps a ARPG alive
You already have the advantage that you can keep items that might not be possible in seasonplay

[wooden monolith]

Ok but what s the point if i can t upgrade gear

If i can t upgrade anything, i ll just go to another game

[urban phoenix]

Really just depends on how rare the corrupting mechanic is in general i think. Like.. if it's pretty frequent, I see no reason why it would take too long to get the corrupt you're looking for... within at least a week.

[latent ferry]

what's the pre abom leveling meta for sentinels, still good old spinny hammers?

[austere frost]

Hammers always fastest leveling

[austere frost]

People have a problem grasping this since they think 2 lp slams come very often and hit 100% ,3 lp gear will never be corrupted ,its 1 lp meta for whatever corruption you want to hit,same way that people give an opinion but never tried any of the endgame systems like uber is godawful to farm need more than 1 egg prr nemesis but people who kill it 3 times don't know this

[south zephyr]

I think the best way to view corruptions is as a side grade to 2LP uniques, 1LP are common and you can always get your target legendary affix then corrupt, and it'll take roughly as long as it would take to get a target 2LP since you do that process probably 4-8 times to get what you want.

[austere frost]

If you think it's gonna take 8 times to get a corruption thats great in reality probably it wont be at all if you see the amount corr avaliable and tiers

Specially when a 2 lp slam it can go many times in failure at julra

The entire system would work if some of the rng was improved,fixed but nothing was

[south zephyr]

Depends on the slot some only have like 8 affixes I think

[austere frost]

Nope

[gusty abyss]

I am really curious about corruption weighting or if its going to be a "yeah.. another resist" kind of deal.

[austere frost]

I recommend you go to last epoch tools

[urban phoenix]

I'm expecting like 20 or so to get what I want.

[south zephyr]

I did, maybe I was looking at some weird subtype like idol altars

[austere frost]

Weighing is all that's gonna define how good or bad this corruption will be

[south zephyr]

Probably idol altars now that I think about it

Body armor had like 80 or something dumb

Which uhhh, good luck I guess

[austere frost]

You have to count all corruption like example fire res not like the new affixes added

Like idols are different

[urban phoenix]

Yeah fair, i'm curious what kind of weighting the special mods have compared to the generic ones.

[gusty abyss]

The big question is, is everything in 1 big pool, or does the game first select a pool and then pick an affix from said pool?

[urban phoenix]

Corrupting a set weapon which is very easily farmable makes it a million times more palatable though imo.

[austere frost]

Yeah but imagine i have idk 20 splitter 2 lp and maybe 6 of those hit the slams at julra how do lucky do you think I gotta be to hit one corruption for me😅

[urban phoenix]

Oh yeah, you're cooked there for sure XD

[austere frost]

Corrupting sets will be very strong since they ignore normal affixes so just get a set belt for that sweet 20 something ms👍

[gusty abyss]

hitting the 1 in 4 for 1lp's was perceived to be so bad, this corruption mechanic for sure will have worse odds. lets find out in a couple of hours 😄

[urban phoenix]

Sunforged with chance to spawn FW on hit shouldn't be super hard to get i don't think.

take a week maybe

if that

[austere frost]

It wont probably

Less even

[urban phoenix]

Gives me some time to test the build and see if I wanna make crafted sunforged and go for the corrupt on those.

[austere frost]

Thats why I aint that excited but hey 1 lp xylem corr is all I am gonna do most likely

At least I did aura build 9253 mana test ,4600% more damage with impossible gear

[gusty abyss]

getting half of that would already be nice

[austere frost]

Oh you are getting way more

Realistic aura hits at likr over 5k mana so let's say 5.6 k mana thats 2800% more damage

Now gotta go through the pain of farming double mana idols since the ones I got are really good all over 17 mana and higher for corrupts,for another 10 mana on top of each

[urban phoenix]

Just need to figure out what I'm gonna level to 60~ with now.

i guess just spinny hammers.

[austere frost]

If you want speed hammers is the way

Same way shurikens for rogue would power level faster now probably bladestorm

[sleek bolt]

Going for Rive healing hands Pala for hc

[honest pond]

did they nerf judgement yet?

[waxen nymph]

Last season yeah

Don't think it got another one

[vestal mirage]

Anyone else gonna be trying abyssal echoes out with the buff it got?

[dusk laurel]

pretty much my thoughts exactly

[iron basin]

I was thinking about a paladin caster. it seems like it'll just be a worse smite though

draven was talking about it too

[vestal mirage]

Probably

The fact that smite can autocast hh and abyssal cant is already a massive difference

[urban phoenix]

Theres also a bunch of other decent 2h mace corrupts I can pivot into If i don't get the one I want quickly.

[vestal mirage]

Does LETools have all of the possible corrupts already

[urban phoenix]

AFAIK yes, but i suppose there could be some that aren't shown.

[vestal mirage]

I haven't looked much into corrupting yet

[iron basin]

smite also has better multipliers. AE has the multicast thing which kinda keeps up with sacrifice, but it doesn't have the crit bonuses and you can't easily build DoT with it

not if you're using the fire node anyway

[vestal mirage]

I'm gonna be trying AE crit

We'll see how it goes

[iron basin]

you'll need base crit on your gear

[vestal mirage]

If it ends up failing spectactularly I can always pivot to good ol smite

Ye ik

[iron basin]

blood mage gloves seems like a no brainer

[vestal mirage]

Yeah definitely

I might go grips until I get my crit situated

Also a good chance I'll need to stack a lot of mana. AE is kinda expensive

[iron basin]

there's also alt-attune

apathy gives a lot of mana regen

[vestal mirage]

I'm hoping I can just lean on soul well with just a little bit of mana investment

[iron basin]

are you doing a void hit AE

[vestal mirage]

Yeah

[iron basin]

ah ok

I thought you were doing paladin

[vestal mirage]

Nah vk all the way babyyyyy

[iron basin]

it's weird that the tooltip for abyssal echoes lists a channel cost

wonder if they messed up

[vestal mirage]

Yeah I noticed that too. Bit weird

[iron basin]

i thought it costs like 20 mana per cast

[vestal mirage]

35 iirc

[iron basin]

that's what the tooltip says now but I thought it was lower

[vestal mirage]

I'm not sure

[ruby hollow]

anyone know a leveling guide for warpath

[iron basin]

yeah it's always been 35

just checked an old planner

[quiet hearth]

I said that the other day and no one said anything so I thought I hallucinated it

[iron basin]

yeah I must have missed when you mentioned it

[quiet hearth]

I wish it did cost 20 mana though, because man that is hard to sustain

[vestal mirage]

Gonna need a ton of mana sustain before you can really build for cast speed

[quiet hearth]

It's possible, I ran the numbers for the fire pally version, Void will be waaaay easier just because void spell efficiency idols

[iron basin]

yeah that's why i think alt-attunement is the way to go for it

i forgot about void spell eff

nvm void is prob easier lol

plus you get to stack vit

[quiet hearth]

VK will have way higher damage but also, pally fire version will be healing like...1k per cast xD

[vestal mirage]

Yeeee that + the relic primordial that boosts your idols

[quiet hearth]

I'd use the attun staff personally

[vestal mirage]

Speaking of healing, what's the plan for sustain? For the vk version

Just spell leech?

[iron basin]

lots of spell leech

once the built-in echoes ramp up it hits a lot

and I'm guessing that VK echoes will also trigger the repeats

i never actually tried

[quiet hearth]

I think they do? it's been forever since I played with it

[vestal mirage]

Do echoes incur the mana cost? idr

[iron basin]

just sharing this again because it looks so cool

[iron basin]

normal echoes don't

[vestal mirage]

how to delete almost 400 mana in a few seconds

[quiet hearth]

But either version can just do AE until out of mana and then use smite. Another option is of course WP auto casting both

[vestal mirage]

Oh that's not a bad idea. Especially early on

[iron basin]

if we've stooped to using warpath then we've failed as casters

[quiet hearth]

The WP was just for a different kind of build

Besides 50 flat spell damage at 300% dmg eff is nothing to scoff at

[vestal mirage]

It will be good trust

:copium:

[iron basin]

yeah the buff makes it actually worth considering

the built-in repeats are pretty similar in power to sacrifice on smite

[quiet hearth]

damn I might have to start this now xD

[iron basin]

i really just see crit being the bottleneck

[vestal mirage]

I was looking at the maxroll version that vocla did. Why is he using that unique helmet? Why not just a good leonine?

[latent ferry]

there's an item that deletes infinite mana in 0.01 seconds if you really need it

[latent ferry]

well that one too but I mean culnivar's claim :P

[iron basin]

did you check the gear section?

maxroll is usually pretty good at explaining their choices

my guess: easy to find, boatload of armor, has lots of attributes, also has reduced crit

[vestal mirage]

yeah that's pretty much the gist of it

I hate losing evade tho so prob just leonine for me

[scarlet thistle]

You won't lose the evade. I cant recall if the glacier cast here costs mana tho

[vestal mirage]

Pretty sure it does? I don't remember. Haven't used it in a long time

[iron basin]

i've never used the helmet so i don't actually know

[scarlet thistle]

It says "increased evade distance" so it def keeps it

but glacier costs mana, so it can be annoying

[iron basin]

i always assumed you were like skating on the glacier it makes

[vestal mirage]

Ye it does for sure, I meant losing it in the sense that I wouldn't want to spam evade like I usually do because of mana. Already gonna be mana starved as is

[scarlet thistle]

Tundra seems like an odd pick for Sentinel, so I'd assume it's for the stats. It's a great helm for other classes tho.

[vestal mirage]

Only thing I'm worried about atm is farming out a decent omnividence. That thing is kinda rare

Really hoping imprints save me xd

[iron basin]

oh yeah they buffed most of the harbinger uniques right

at least the ones that saw 0 usage

[vestal mirage]

grasp of the blood mage + t7 crit on staff + 1 phantom grip + amulet with t7 crit should get me to 100% crit chance

[iron basin]

feels bad putting crit on staff and missing cast speed

[vestal mirage]

yeeeah it does

changing it to cast speed brings me down to 57%

[iron basin]

VK has crit on the tree somewhere doesn't it

or is it only melee crit

[iron basin]

yeah staff crit rolls are massive. doesn't surprise me

I think i'd want cast speed on the staff+gloves, try to get crit on rings/ammy

[vestal mirage]

crit multi per point spent in vk tree, 5% crit, and a reduced crit damage taken node

not a bad idea

2 grips with t7 crit + amulet with t7 crit + blood mage gloves gets me to 94%

not bad

am kinda forced to use grips forever tho

if I perfect roll everything I'm 111% 😆

[iron basin]

blood mage gloves are common enough that you can probably find max rolled base crit on them

[quiet hearth]

not as big of a deal because you dont want super cast speed becuase 100% you're not sustaining it even with perfect gear

[vestal mirage]

^ that is true

[verbal dome]

anyone able to tell how much warpath got nerfed and how worse/better it is now? I heard we can channel it infinitely now? I was playing SSF only and reached maybe 500 corruption

[vestal mirage]

will probably just go crit multi instead of cast speed tbh

[iron basin]

void warpath got slightly nerfed, other warpaths all got buffed iirc

warpath is still fine

[verbal dome]

I've been playing void I wasn't aware of other types

I guess there are bossing warpath types

[iron basin]

there's a few builds. void is the one most people play

[vestal mirage]

ignite warpath enjoyers

[quiet hearth]

there are dozens of us

[iron basin]

oh you know, maybe I'll try hit forge strike again with the jormun set. it's another multiplier

and the axe portion gives crit multi

[vestal mirage]

big bonk

[quiet hearth]

I'd say better off going with the explode axe and stacking

[iron basin]

i'm already using the explode axe for my upheaval build

gotta have something different

[quiet hearth]

Fair enough, gonna have to get a lot of bleed chance

and it's no wilder than my idea for a rogue but Im not touching that until I have all the gear because good lord do you need a lot

[vestal mirage]

another league another nihilis farm

yippeeee

[quiet hearth]

Dunno why Im talking in here like the wheel didnt make me go aco

[ionic surge]

guys which starter u recommend if I wanna transitio to judgement aura asap? javelin or hammers are also fine?

[iron basin]

hammers are always good

[ionic surge]

ty, I go hammers then

[quiet hearth]

Either one, you can use the dot multi,fire dmg, and ignite chance while leveling

[ionic surge]

but u mean on hammers or javelins

[iron basin]

probably javelins. hammers don't really have any dot stuff built in except maybe bleed?

[quiet hearth]

Both, you can go ignite hammers or jav

[iron basin]

find yourself an early firestarter torch and everything is fire dot

[quiet hearth]

Hammers have an ignite node

[iron basin]

i didn't actually know that

[vestal mirage]

has anyone experimented with the void rift node?

[iron basin]

oooh the global ignite

[vestal mirage]

nether breach

[quiet hearth]

the what now?

[quiet hearth]

I was thinking on hammers and was so lost

[iron basin]

orb is so weird to me. it's trying to do so many different things

[quiet hearth]

I plan on using that, it's exactly like it says, was wonky back when I did it but this was before the Dorb changes

[vestal mirage]

it seems like it'd be good for an echoes build. since you'll always have dorbs around you

[quiet hearth]

Will help make up for the lower CS

[peak zodiac]

orb has such a strange tree to try and do out of the box stuff with but thankfully it's also got a ton of great nodes

[flat snow]

whats the leveling build?

[quiet hearth]

for this? or just in general?

[iron basin]

yeah it really really wants you to work with the cross-skill synergies

[quiet hearth]

which is a good thing imo

[urban phoenix]

Can't escape the sentinel life.

[peak zodiac]

that part of orb tree is a good thing, could still use some cleaning up and clarity tho imo

[quiet hearth]

could be worse, could be serpent strike's tree

[urban phoenix]

Best of luck everyone! May you have good download speeds!

[vestal mirage]

unfortunately I'm stuck in the office for the next 4 hours

[iron basin]

"Could be half lobotomized"

[vestal mirage]

gonna be a late start for me

[quiet hearth]

I'm totally not going to do nothing at work today because Im playing LE on the side

[vestal mirage]

based. if I could get LE on my work laptop without getting fired I would in a heartbeat

Thursday is unfortunately my office day

[quiet hearth]

I have my work pc and my personal side by side, and my new position means Im on my own for how I do things. So as long as my work gets done, they do not care

[vestal mirage]

Hell yeah

[urban phoenix]

Good thing I'm playing forge guard

[quiet hearth]

It really is wild how FG isn't bad, it just it's siblings are so much better it LOOKS bad in perspective

[peak zodiac]

it's come a long way for sure

[iron basin]

same here. fulltime WFH due to medical conditions making me get sick super easy from the office

[quiet hearth]

Someone got their wizard/cleric merced by a fighter in DND and it shows

[peak zodiac]

but just let me have haste bro please

[quiet hearth]

I just got lucky, but Im 100% using it to my advantage

[iron basin]

haste is for people that don't have 12k armor

[terse hedge]

already killed uber, good season. see you all in 8 months

[peak zodiac]

zdps is fine bro just let me zoom

[urban phoenix]

Imagine needing movement speed to dodge hits.

Just take it on the chin like a forge guard.

[vestal mirage]

based and fg pilled

[urban phoenix]

If you haven't gotten the patch dl, restart steam.

[vestal mirage]

how big is the patch

[urban phoenix]

8.2gb for me

[vestal mirage]

not bad

[quiet hearth]

8.2G

[silk wasp]

If only having 12k armor wasn't basically identical to having 8k armor 😔

[flat snow]

why can't this game Have a pre-load

[vestal mirage]

because offline mode exists

[flat snow]

fair

I mean close offline mode.

[urban phoenix]

They should just disable offline mode for an hour before launch or something.

[flat snow]

24hours

[iron basin]

bigger number means better

[eager surge]

i dont have any patch lol

[vestal mirage]

restart your steam fully

[urban phoenix]

restart steam

[iron basin]

it's hilarious that it takes like 30k armor to reach the cap

[flat snow]

who's COF like me lol

I call it lazy/lucky loot

[vestal mirage]

most people tend to cof from what I've seen

[flat snow]

ermagawd -

[iron basin]

i think i remember reading it's a pretty even split between MG and CoF

[vestal mirage]

is it? kinda surprising ngl

CoF is just so good and doesn't fall off a cliff like mg when the playerbase dies down

[quiet hearth]

IVe never had an issue with MG falling off

[vestal mirage]

I've never actually tried mg so I'm probably just making stuff up xd

cof stan for life

[iron basin]

i tend to play PoE as a mostly-self-found anyway. every league my buddy and i go as far as we can without buying anything on the market and then eventually give up and start interacting with trade

[quiet hearth]

CoF is great, but as someone who rerolls like it's their job MG is just too good

[iron basin]

yuuup that's where MG is great

it's a PITA farming out gear for a billion different builds on CoF

[vestal mirage]

that's a fair point

[silk wasp]

Pretty sure it's actually like 55k armor to hit the cap

[quiet hearth]

theyve done a good job balancing out which is for which, not perfect but really good. You dont suffer for taking one or the other.

[onyx timber]

was vk warpath buffed or nerfed this season, thx in advance for any answers

[iron basin]

it's enough that you're not getting it without a ton of buffs on top of your gear having a lot of armor

I could just barely reach the cap during smelter's wrath channel

[silk wasp]

Tunk shows 49000 at a little over 84.3%

[naive solstice]

As always it's beyond difficult finalizing a build decision. Between Smite Paladin and Multistrike Smite VK what would you the "Sentinel Advisors" suggest? I've checked out tons of info here on Discord, Reddit and other sources to help make an educated decision. Leaning towards VK as from what I've seen it has slightly higher damage overall, the Xylem buffs are intriguing though. Does one have better clear than the other for mapping? Not worried about Ubberroth as I've cleared him 100+ times, shouldn't be an issue on either build.

[vestal mirage]

Kinda cracked for a lvl 6 weapon lol

[gusty abyss]

yeah... do the omens for sure

[vestal mirage]

Holy

[gusty abyss]

this works xD

[vestal mirage]

Wow that affix is crazy for a strength stacker

I just want to leave work and play man

[silk wasp]

Didn't they nerf high tier affixes showing up on nemesis gear for low level players? And then just immediately do this?

[vestal mirage]

[gusty abyss]

yeah, kinda feels like the head and the tail doing different things

[urban phoenix]

Probably didn't want you corrupting nemesis gear to make them extra cracked early on

[dense cedar]

vk or paladin for warpath?

[vestal mirage]

Both good but most people tend to go vk

Soul well goes really hard with wp

[dense cedar]

i jsut can't find a smite autocast warpath build

for vk

[gusty abyss]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/skyqula/character/roflcopter

[vestal mirage]

That's a good wp character name

[dense cedar]

i didn't play LE for a while. does that look good?

[gusty abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjmCRfpXn9w

using a slightly older version there

[dense cedar]

nice. i dunno why u barely see any warpath builds out there. most are autobomber VK or erasing strike

[vestal mirage]

Wp is super popular

[gusty abyss]

it has the autobomber build in, but it does little damage compared to the smites

[tiny nest]

smite still good?

[dense cedar]

yeah but i only found 1 warpath on LE tools, 1 on maxroll and poevault/icy veins guides are nearly 2y outdated

[vestal mirage]

YouTube is probably your best bet

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gusty abyss]

pretty sure its not on maxroll because it is "To similar to warpath"

[dense cedar]

yeah but its hard to know these days who is a genuine one and who cheated with standart items to make an like 50mirror build

[vestal mirage]

Wp is strong enough as is that you don't really need insane gear for it to do well

I'll probably make a wp character at some point. Always do

[urban phoenix]

neat

[vestal mirage]

2 more hours and I can game

[vestal mirage]

Have they said anything about t7 corrupted affixes on low level gear or is that something that will be staying

Seems kinda insane

[urban phoenix]

Pretty sure they are keeping it

they got rid of the high lvl nem mods

to avoid having both

[oak ferry]

this is crazy for lvl 40

[vestal mirage]

wow

[urban phoenix]

damn. nice.

[wooden mountain]

low roll on the % health, wouldn't even pick it up