🔱┃sentinel

[waxen nymph]

The more dmg per TR got tripled, and the Crit Multi per Chill got x12

What confuses me about that item is the melee Cold procc

Like do you really want to play it somewhere else than sentinel?

And then loose the only more dmg on it

[gusty abyss]

well, there is some good synergy with mourning frost

who cares about negative frost resist when you dont take any?

[waxen nymph]

But you cant get Time Rot if not sentinel

[gusty abyss]

Sure, but you dont have to use it as primary damage

it helps clear the screen and it doesnt need to be scaled high to do that

[waxen nymph]

Just for the melee to spell conversion then?

[gusty abyss]

yeah

[waxen nymph]

Meh

[gusty abyss]

well, and being able to ignore cold

[waxen nymph]

I mean it look decent, but they buffed the VoidWinter part.

And no-one used the conversion part before.
Idk
Not exciting

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, makes much more sense for vk with javelin

[waxen nymph]

I could see a Tempest Strike or Swarmblade angle

[gusty abyss]

I could see spellblade with dark shroud of cinders

[waxen nymph]

Hum...

[gusty abyss]

has crit scaling of dex as well

but then splitting void/cold is still awkward

[waxen nymph]

Also, if you stack Dex/Mourningfrost

You get mostly cold dmg

So dark shroud is meh

No?

[gusty abyss]

yep

but it is a way to get a lot of flat void

[waxen nymph]

Feels like Lament is easier no?

Could do some VO shenanigans too

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, Lament with the new frozen orb set

that is going to be a devouring orb but its big and try element xD

[waxen nymph]

😁

[mental flare]

you hace a % to cast warlash each second while spinning, the % is increased by each second while spinning, greatly increases warpath mana cost

[waxen nymph]

I like the idea of stopping Warpath with a big slash at the end

Problem rn, it deals 0 dmg and doesn't scale with most of the nodes in the tree

[mental flare]

0dps or its bugged?

[gusty abyss]

void cleave does warslash better atm

[waxen nymph]

0 dps

And because Warpath is setup in a weird way

Warslash doesn't benefit from most of the nodes in the tree

[alpine canopy]

I used it for shatter strike, felt pretty good and actually makes use of the spell damage

Someday I might try FG axe volley with it, still need to look into how much time rot on melee hit we can stack to see if VW bolts can be good time rot appliers

[waxen nymph]

How did you use the spell part?

[alpine canopy]

I used mourningfrost and proc VW bolts, frost claw, and ice spikes

I think ice spikes might have been bugged, they didn't seem to do much damage, but FC and VW bolts were good enough to help clear some packs

ice spikes and FC both innately get 100% of melee damage as added spell on top of the bane conversion, which all lets mourningfrost double dip

I think spellblade is getting more spell proc buffs next season, too, plus we have primos now, so should be much better now than when I tried it in 1.1

[waxen nymph]

Ice spikes get Flat Melee converted to flat spell?

It's not written on the node

[waxen nymph]

@alpine canopy

[alpine canopy]

It's on the tooltip, +1 spell per +3 melee, so it's not a ton and only a 100% dmg eff spell. Also not totally sure if it benefits from SS's base +1 melee per dex for the melee to spell conversions

I didn't test ice spikes too much tbh

but they look cool lol

[turbid dome]

I need this meme but with a grole

[waxen nymph]

I checked on Shatter Strike
Didn't think of reading ice spikes

[turbid dome]

That’s how they getcha

And why people don’t realize time wave gets vitality scaling

[iron basin]

we would have been able to welcome another to the world of sanity

we'll have to hold off the welcome party

[mental flare]

is current judgement pala facetank ing ubby? or the balance killed that gameplay? (not doing it just asking)

[austere frost]

It can still face tank but the damage its really low compared to before like idk can expect 9 minutes fights

[peak zodiac]

eh i mean kinda but it’s much harder to eat lasers and orbs with the frailty of aberroth change

[still hull]

Can you not change Smite in to void anymore?

Never mind

[true raptor]

Easily, just don't expect a fast kill.

[sand wolf]

can "chance for additional multistrike sword" proc an additional sword for main target attasks via "bladestorm" node? like hit twise instead of once?

[alpine canopy]

Yes, but it's not like hitting twice instead of once, more like hitting 6 times instead of 5

[sand wolf]

AH true

[mental flare]

so close guys

lvl 101 here i come

[drowsy ingot]

Avatar of regret is a big yes or something open to discussion? (Rive swordcatcher vk).

[turbid dome]

I always grab it on rive top hit 80% echo chance

[austere frost]

Mandatory cause its 80% of echoes procrate by rive so your damage is higher

[drowsy ingot]

Why 80%? It’s 10% there and another 20% for other passives, plus another 10% for being vk. What else?

[austere frost]

Some abilities basically double that 40% like rive so its 80%

See

[drowsy ingot]

Apologies for not reading in-game descriptions.

Im using codex of the erased sentinel but could swap it with anchor (only 1 LP, so I’ve to decide if slam +void cleave or crit multi). The codex has +108% void damage and other rubbish affix but provide +1 to all skills and a bit of mitigation on dot. Better to wait for a 2lp anchor? (Here’s the updated build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BakXg6we )

[turbid dome]

the real strength to anchor is that it caps your endurance % by itself and gives you a big boost to your armor through strength and its implicit

its basically a big not die item

to use codex or anchor

• does removing codex remove anything vital from your skill trees
• do you have endurance % from somewhere else
• do you already have a crap ton of armor

[peak zodiac]

anchor very good. there’s a reason it’s the go to for VKs pre-SW. even 1LP is very nice

also on the offensive side it gives you up to 100% increased void damage and 14 strength, which are fairly comparable to low rolled t7 modifiers.

[drowsy ingot]

Thanks: so the issue: which points remove from rive and void cleave tree?

[turbid dome]

I'd remove 1 point from those

[drowsy ingot]

And it’s better to slam crit multi or +4 void cleave?

[turbid dome]

what can ya get from +4 void cleave on the void cleave tree

[drowsy ingot]

Maxout deadly omen and an extra point in vorpal force

And mantain abyssal walker maxed

[turbid dome]

and do ya think that beats crit multi which affects everything?

[drowsy ingot]

No idea that’s why I asked 😂

[turbid dome]

that was a genuine question

wana see how your thinkin about the build

[drowsy ingot]

I made a test using the blessing which provide 40 crit multi

Dps increase but not that remarkably

In maps, can’t feel a difference for now, probably because corruption is not that high

[turbid dome]

extrapolate from that, do you think the extra stuff in voidcleave outweighs the generic crit multi

I'm tricking ya into thinking about theorycrafting

[drowsy ingot]

In terms of gameplay I feel no difference. In terms of better damage output, not able to really measure.

[turbid dome]

whats your %increased damage total?

[drowsy ingot]

How can I provide you this number?

[turbid dome]

import the character into LE tools then look in the damage tab

offense tab

this part

since your void melee we care about the Melee column's void spot

[drowsy ingot]

798% which became 1021% for some reasons while I was switching tab

[turbid dome]

I'd go with the void cleave affix then, I like hitting 1k (it comes with % melee dmg)

[turbid dome]

did you change it from actual to avg or max

or edit any of the gear

[drowsy ingot]

Actual 1021, average is 1036

[turbid dome]

ah

I guess voidcleave levels still

[drowsy ingot]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXz9Nm5z

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 94

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (62) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,434, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 159.48, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 37 Str / 9 Dex / 9 Int / 14 Att / 48 Vit
▸ Resistances: 109% / 89% / 94% / 77% / 85% / 88% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 69%, Threshold: 1,133
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 61% (4,331)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 14% (118)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 3%

Used skills:

Rive / Void Cleave / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope / Anomaly

[turbid dome]

anchor with + levels to void cleave on it

• get more stuff in void cleave

• comes with %increased melee dmg so that stat doesnt go down

• swap endurance % blessing to flat armor blessing (should raise armor DR to like 67% ish)

you will probably also want to look for bloodmage gloves

very strong defensive affix on them

their less good cause your not doing spells but that affix with a good slam on them is still very good until you can kill uber abby

[drowsy ingot]

Ravenous void gloves could be a thing?

[turbid dome]

ye the mimic gloves are great... just really rare

and make sure to have a source of cleanse to remove their feast

like super duper rare

[drowsy ingot]

Ive just one pair with no LP

[turbid dome]

slap those fellas into a nemisus and see what happens

[drowsy ingot]

But haven’t cleans on belt for now, so I can wait

[turbid dome]

check your materials

you don't need a high tier affix for it

has 100% cleanse at T1

[drowsy ingot]

Miss the 2lp shattered chains

And then Ive to manage a decent slam

Ive already failed the swordcatcher one, need to find another at 2 lp 🤣

[turbid dome]

farmin' time

[peak zodiac]

iirc a big part of the reason +4 vc is used is because it has a juicy +150% melee damage roll, admittedly i don’t play the build though

[turbid dome]

yee

twas baiting Severius into theorycraftin'

[drowsy ingot]

Have no idea it has that part 😂

[turbid dome]

[drowsy ingot]

And it was in front of my eyes all the time. Just the line below.

[turbid dome]

now you got some practice on theory craftin'

[drowsy ingot]

Half of my questions could be avoided simply reading in-game tooltip but yeah, you are kind to put things like that 😂

[turbid dome]

thats the secret

everyone sucks at reading tooltips

[waxen nymph]

I discovered yesterday that bane of winter wasnt locked to Melee COLD skill

But just to Melee Skill

[true raptor]

Where did you get the idea it was?

[alpine canopy]

Probably from the spell damage part

[austere frost]

Blood mage gloves before uber its awesome dr,I prefer that over ravenous void cause I can have 2 lp gloves while ravenous void its a 1 lp gloves 99% of the time

[austere frost]

Also i f I have to sacrifice a node i would get rid of champion 1 point you loose 8% more damage sure but having more scrap metals is stronger

It goes from 12% 3 point to 16% 4 points which is like 1 in 8 chance to get a scrap metals vs 1 in 6 to get scrap metals meaning more procs roughly so more damage and armor

[iron basin]

yeah it also scales with att and dex which is weird. Dex I get with javelin, but att is odd

Shaman voidwinter bolt time?!

[iron basin]

honestly like nearly all hit-based things for primalist I think BM might be better because of lynx

[waxen nymph]

The issue with non sentinel VoidWinter, is you cant get Time Rot chance

[austere frost]

Yo vlad do you know if void winter bolts get more damage from the skill it procs them?

[waxen nymph]

99.99 % sure they don't

[austere frost]

Then its gonna be very hard to scale their damage outside vk and even then doesn't seem that impressive

[waxen nymph]

I will definitely not clear 3k corruption

[austere frost]

Meanwhile the thorn totem stuff seems has more potential at least 1k corr not ask for much more

[wooden monolith]

For farming, having high movement speed is better than having high dps. @severius : stop being a turtle and switch boots and ring for darkstride + flames of midnight ! Keep boots in your inventory for bosses.

You will get items much faster

[quaint sparrow]

It’s why I always had a pair of Darkstride and a second axe around with flat void on my Warpath VK

More speed is always better

[wooden monolith]

Yep

[warped plume]

How much extra speed do you get?

[wooden monolith]

Your ms is 150 to 200

With UA relic

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c54owHTf2ps

I do not like the body armor

[drowsy ingot]

I come from a judgment paladin. Everything seems incredibly quick at the moment

[wooden monolith]

Lol

[drowsy ingot]

Void cleave is a wonder

[wooden monolith]

I started with shield bash, i t is slower than judgment, the boots have no ms, and weapon slows you

[drowsy ingot]

King of arenas

Dumb question of the day (I already know the answer but just to be sure): if I start an online char, even if it’s in legacy realms, it has a separated stash from the offline legacy, right?

[loud quest]

Afaik, yah?

[peak zodiac]

yes. otherwise legacy would be flooded with fully maxrolled perfect affix 4t7s lol

[drowsy ingot]

Is it possible to have them offline? 🤣

[alpine canopy]

There's no "export" function or anything, but technically you can manually "cheat in" all your online stuff into offline. Probably not worth the effort tbh

[silk wasp]

I haven't kept up with the s4 teasers. Is FG getting anything or can I sleep for another season

[alpine canopy]

I don't think there is a lot of focus on FG coming. Every class will at least get some new stuff for sure, though (like new/updated uniques, corruptions, and hopefully bug fixes).

[turbid dome]

*gonna tack on here this means true offline not regular offline

Cause regular offline is still connected to servers

[quaint sparrow]

I don’t remember exactly but I want to say about an extra 50%

[warped plume]

That’s quite a lot.

I don’t like warpath though since you need to stop channel every few seconds for chests or item drops

[alpine canopy]

Only for login and chat tbf

[turbid dome]

ah

I thought fake offline would get angry with any kind of file changing stuff

[quaint sparrow]

You can open chests while channeling

At least I remember being able to?

You can definitely keep channeling while navigating the Nemesis menus

Will be home shortly can check the movement speed and chests things again

[warped plume]

Maybe it was picking up the crafting materials from chests.

[peak zodiac]

there was a bug where it stopped your channel when picking up or interacting for a while last season but it got fixed

[quaint sparrow]

Only time I ever stopped channeling was randomly when the game decided I ran out of mana before consuming changes to bump it back up again.

Other than that I was able to channel for a very long time

[quaint sparrow]

It’s about a 20% movement speed boost, not as much as I remembered but it’s still nice

[alpine canopy]

It's possible if the login or chat stuff gets changed clientside, but save data is just data

You can for sure corrupt your files if you mess up though, so I don't generally recommend it

[turbid dome]

👍

[wooden monolith]

the boost speed on my warpath is 40% (123 --> 163), i can reach 200 ms (but failed slam on boots), so the boost can be 80%

looting or opening chests do not stop channeling

[quaint sparrow]

No it doesn’t

I go from 113% MS while channeling up to 134% with a quick weapon and boot change.

Extra 21% movement speed

[wooden monolith]

ok, me using appathy s maw + darkstride

[quaint sparrow]

Ahh, if I used that I would get even more movement speed

[wooden monolith]

what r u using ?

[quaint sparrow]

World Splitter

One with attack speed and the other with flat for the boot change

[wooden monolith]

ok

[quaint sparrow]

Might be worth looking into getting a Maw, not sure how it will affect my damage though

[wooden monolith]

it can be bad if you not having enough mana

i get 1k mana with appathy so it s fine (doing 1,3k corruption)

[quaint sparrow]

I should be fine then yeah

Would be an extra 10-15% movement speed

[wooden monolith]

now i need the increased effect of haste affix on boots

[warped plume]

Hmm. I wonder what it was that was annoying then

[wooden monolith]

nothing, warpath is perfect

it s good for everything, good at speed farming, good at bossing

[warped plume]

It was warpath and I remember that troves was the worst

[wooden monolith]

what lol ?

i am doing a lot of troves, and it s ok ?

[warped plume]

Made we respect to time rot for farming

Guess I need to try it again

[wooden monolith]

maybe if you want to see stats on items, it can be weird

but with loot filter i don t need to see stats, i loot everything

since i hide items i don t want to see and hide bad stats too

[quaint sparrow]

Do you have warpath bound to your mouse? Maybe that affects it somehow?

Daimos did also say it used to be bugged

[wooden monolith]

right click for spin, left click for loot

[quaint sparrow]

Fair enough

I have mine bound to Q and I can loot and interact with everything fine

With haste on boots and a Maw I could get my movement speed up to around 170%

[wooden monolith]

i ve bought a controller 2 weeks ago, and can t play with mouse anymore

it s better for melee skill, not good for aiming skills

my skill increased a lot since i bought it

[austere frost]

Warpath losses like 50% damage while using apathy but if you play at like 1k corruption i doesn't matter and its insane for troving click away while spinning in a 4 man group apathy doesn't cut it so world splitter is a must

[wooden monolith]

yeah, i could play 2K corruption with world splitter, but can t do more than 1,3k now with appathy

[quaint sparrow]

Difference between 1.3k and 2k is pretty small

I think farming 1.3k much faster is overall better

[austere frost]

When you have 4t7 3t7 on every slot yeah you should drop corr not gonna help you get anything now before if you can handle 2 k corruption playing there netted me better gear overall

[alpine canopy]

It's really annoying trying to click item labels while channeling. Not sure if wasd control fixes that or not, I've only tried m&k

[peak zodiac]

much better with wasd for sure

[wooden monolith]

from noobzor farming guide : The chance for imprints to proc increases with corruption, up to 1200 corruption. However, 500 corruption is plenty sufficient – it is already 98.4% as effective as 1200c.

if it s right, there is no benefit to play above 500 corruption

for chest farming

that s why i don t play 2K lol

[drowsy ingot]

98% sounds good, it’s a deal for me 😂

[austere frost]

It'd not imprint conquered tower will net you better gear at least at the start not when you empower ,thats why if you handle 2k you play there ,plus I drop more 2t7 gear reliably than before 1t6 1t7

Anyway if kuden plays at 2k and he likes it I go that route I also had better luck with my exalts there playing that just playing my warpath at 1k corr

[split canyon]

what blessing should i get? gold, unique drop, exp? my first playthrough

[austere frost]

Usually xp blessing is the better one but gold blessing its very good this season so get that one

[turbid dome]

half the blessings are drop related things/xp gain, the other half give your character stats

• for drops slot in whatever you want more of
• for the character stat ones theres a lot of options and a lot to break down based on your build

tho the blessing/grand blessing of humanity is always a solid choice (it gives all resistance)

[quaint sparrow]

I usually push as high as it is safe for me and that I can farm as quickly as 1k

Usually don’t end up going much higher than 1.4k though

As I feel it becomes too unsafe and it just isn’t worth it

Interesting that it would only increase up to around 1200 though

Meaningfully anyway

[drowsy ingot]

Im at 390 and everything is super fast and easy. Then i try rampant coast and get one shotted by any of that stupid beast attacks

[wooden monolith]

You need to quickly turn around the beast to dodge its attacks.not easy, i still die 2/10 with melee char lol

Fight is easy with warpath

[quaint sparrow]

Just run circles 😂

[drowsy ingot]

Warpath probably is more manageable yes. Actually im not able to survive it, lol. Ill ignore them 😂 (killed it, f**k yeah)

[true raptor]

Blessings are there to plug holes so really whatever you feel you need

EXP if you want well, more EXP and by extension more favour for CoF. Gold if you want more gold.

It's pretty self explanitory stuff except for the EXP = Favour which requires you to made 1 connection

[iron basin]

shoutout to health regen blessing acting as a crutch for my terrible builds

[turbid dome]

I mean

I slap that onto most builds

Getting like 150 health regen is super nice

[iron basin]

if it's good enough to be a crutch, it's even better on a good build

[true raptor]

I really want a Warpath VK but fire

Forgeguard just isn't the same though

[wooden monolith]

i tried your rive build (with void cleave instead of healing hands), UA kills is now 1'25, from 1'50, thx. this build is insane ^^

[austere frost]

No problem man glad to help

Rive- void cleave min max its insanely more powerful than what some people think specially maxroll ranking thinking its worse than what it is

[wooden monolith]

yeah, this is one of the best bossing build with warpath, and time rot, maxroll use apathy, it s bad

best sentinel i mean

[austere frost]

For me rive its my uber build when need to farm him pretty good once the gear start rolling

[wooden monolith]

i was farming UA mostly with multistrike paladin (1'50, was my best bossing build), now i ll farm with rive

[austere frost]

Yeah before I was like I am pretty sure vk rive it kills faster than multistrike paladin but you know maybe I was wrong

Whatever boss comes next vk its going to have great answers to it with the new stat amulet at least

[wooden monolith]

i did not use triple threat rive node, is it good?

[austere frost]

We're you able to get 90 vitality lazare? Its doable but sometimes hard to reach for devouring 10 more damage to 20 more damage

[wooden monolith]

i ve got 98

[austere frost]

Its worth cause you have the skill points

[wooden monolith]

why is it good ?

i am gonna test tomorow, will my dps be better ?

[split canyon]

do i jjust choose what i need or does the color matters

[wooden monolith]

1'40 with triple threat

[austere frost]

What's your rive tree

The other choices are max champion max attack speed 1 2 attack not sure about maxing ignite chance over those 2

[austere frost]

As of right now the best choice is to grab rare runes drops,after primordial horns ,then petals ,then bones if any of those pick whatever you want

[drowsy ingot]

What’s the critical chance needed beside the bonus from void cleave?

[young rose]

Any build suggestions for a player that likes fast and high dps builds?

[austere frost]

You have enough with like 1 crit ring ,anomaly symbols give crit chance enough passive tree

[drowsy ingot]

Crit node in anomaly needs to be maxed out?

[austere frost]

Check your crit chance when you use it if you are not capped crit then yes but remember to use void cleave before it may not seem you are crit capped but you are

Go go fast

[quaint sparrow]

Choose the material you need, reward you need to if you really want the affix for the beast itself but I really wouldn’t bother with the latter

[drowsy ingot]

Try to avoid power that makes pool of venom or other area effects because they are really annoying and hide things that you want to avoid

[alpine canopy]

The color is just based on the guaranteed loot of that evolution, e.g., red = petals

[wooden monolith]

Warpath void knight

[wooden monolith]

You need to calculate

[wooden monolith]

Warpath and rive void knight are fast and highest sentinel dps. Javelin and shield throw are very fast too and good dps, not as good as rive and warpatg.

And i forget erasing strike void knigt

Javelin and shield throw paladin

[drowsy ingot]

Has to be 100%? Using void cleave doesn’t change the % so Ive no idea if im capped or not

[wooden monolith]

Yep, that s why you need to calculate, you can t trust the % on char menu

Crit from void cleave do not appear in the char menu

Not hard to calculate

[drowsy ingot]

The number in the char menu (actually 43%) is reliable?

[wooden monolith]

No

It does not show the crit from some skills, if you get crit from rive tree or void cleave tree, you won t see it

[drowsy ingot]

I just have passives and a ring with crit

The rest is from void cleave and anomaly

[wooden monolith]

You need to calculate your flat crit and %crit

From all sources

And do the math

If you suck at math, can give you the formula later (i am outside)

[waxen nymph]

If you want to share your planner, I can do it for you

[wooden monolith]

Thx

[drowsy ingot]

Thanks! https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BakX65Ny

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 96

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (64) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,901, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 132.49, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 64 Str / 9 Dex / 9 Int / 14 Att / 52 Vit
▸ Resistances: 112% / 92% / 97% / 80% / 88% / 95% / 83%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 74%, Threshold: 1,317
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,130)
▸ Block Chance: 2%, Mitigation: 14% (118)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 3%

Used skills:

Rive / Void Cleave / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope / Anomaly

[quaint sparrow]

It shows your crit chance if you were just to throw of a basic attack without any skill use.

[waxen nymph]

You want Rive Crit chance? Right?

[drowsy ingot]

Yup

[waxen nymph]

Base Crit 9%
Inc Crit 499%
Total Crit > 9x5.99= 53,91%

Idk how many stack of crit vuln you get

But the max being 20% at 10 stack
You are far from Crit cap

[drowsy ingot]

+3

[waxen nymph]

So you are at 59%

[iron basin]

I really wish they would change their stance on providing detailed stat breakdowns per ability in game

so I don't have to whip out a calculator to see my skill's actual crit chance

[waxen nymph]

I would put a few pts in "Concentration" in rive for some Flat crit

[waxen nymph]

I believe they want to do it too

[drowsy ingot]

Teorically void cleave was exactly to avoid that 😂

[waxen nymph]

They don't want a dps meter. But they want to give more detailed skill info

[drowsy ingot]

This 20% is for sigil of hope ?

[iron basin]

oh nice. Last I heard was they didn't want to do either. I don't really care about no DPS meter, but I do want to know if I'm gonna hit certain crit levels and stuff without having to do math

[waxen nymph]

No, if you get 10 stacks of crit vulnerability

You get an extra 20% Crit chance

[wooden monolith]

it s hard to get lots of stacks, because of cooldown, it s usualy 3 stacks so 6 crit

[drowsy ingot]

It also bring +150% crit chance

[wooden monolith]

on void cleave only

not for rive

[drowsy ingot]

Ok

Then have no idea how to cap without spending also points in the rive skill tree

[wooden monolith]

did i miss something, i see 15 flat crit and 352% crit which gives you 67,8 crit

[drowsy ingot]

I miss one point in mortal cleave, which is another +1%

[wooden monolith]

flat crit from : void cleave 6, vk tree 4, base crit 5 = 15

%crit : anomaly 90, symbol 80, idols 31, stuff 169, tree 50 = 420

=78% crit

you need 4 crit from rive and you re good

[drowsy ingot]

The missing point in mortal cleave passive tree is already taken into account?

It’s not on the planner

[wooden monolith]

i see 4 on planner

[drowsy ingot]

I know, im at 96 and miss 4 points

In the hurry i forgot to complete the planner 😅

[wooden monolith]

you can just import

[drowsy ingot]

I’ve imported

But im 96 and miss 4 points in passives. One of these points will go to mortal cleave

[wooden monolith]

ok

so you need 4 flat crit, 1 from VK tree, and 3 from rive tree

+10%crit

with 19 flat crit, you need 430% crit

[drowsy ingot]

So I need a +4 anomaly on helm

To max Decimation

[wooden monolith]

why lol ?

[drowsy ingot]

Not enough, have to spend also a couple of points in Concentration

If I understood your calculation 😂

[wooden monolith]

you can have 100 from symbol instead of 80, you can get crit on ornate idols, no need to get 4anomaly

[drowsy ingot]

Ornate idols are crit multi? Never see with crit chance

Small weaver idols has crit chance

[wooden monolith]

crit chance is rare

on ornate idols

[drowsy ingot]

I see

Ok, with some extra weaver idols i just need a couple of points in Concentration

[wooden monolith]

i m mistaken, you can t get 100% from symbol

sorry

yep

3

[iron basin]

manifest armor having a bleed node feels like a joke with how slow it attacks

[drowsy ingot]

If i remove lingering memories and one point in swiftrest, i can max Decimation. Together with the added idols, it’s +516 crit

So i think one point in concentration allows to cap crit

[wooden monolith]

((flat crit x %crit)/100)+flat crit for the calculation

[drowsy ingot]

Ok, we are good to go. Thanks all, you are preciousssssss

[wooden monolith]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oR6PJ4ZL you can see the crit chance on ornate idols on my idols

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (72) / Paladin (11)

General:

▸ Health: 4,858, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 158.51, Regen: 0/s
▸ Ward Retention: 42%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 77 Str / 21 Dex / 21 Int / 29 Att / 98 Vit
▸ Resistances: 97% / 73% / 78% / 76% / 77% / 131% / 131%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,138
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (204)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,664)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 100%

Used skills:

Rive / Void Cleave / Abyssal Echoes / Anomaly / Devouring Orb

[drowsy ingot]

Ahhhh it’s a damned enchants

[wooden monolith]

some vowen echoes are good to enchant idols

cenopath of worlds gives you 4 tries instead of 2

that s how i enchant my idols

or sepulchre of the lost (3 tries)

[drowsy ingot]

With one enchant like yours, I don’t even need to spend one point in Concentration

Thanks, Ill go for it immediately 😂

[young rose]

hey pookies i was wondering if someone wants to power level me for a bit pls

[wooden monolith]

crit chance is rare, and T6/T7 is rare too, T5 is +15% crit (i f i remember corrctly), good enough

[drowsy ingot]

Just found a t5

[wooden monolith]

nice

[quasi bridge]

hello i'm sorry but i play sentinel with basic build and now i'm 70 so i'll try to play neant but impossible to acces right talent point i'll try so much but idk why
i'll try to put 15 point on sentinel and paladin but no i cant...

[peak zodiac]

the passives and skills to the right side of the chain are locked to that mastery

so in your case you have to be a void knight to access anything past that line

[quasi bridge]

and i can change ?

[iron basin]

yes, but it costs gold and resets your whole tree. the NPC is in the end of time

[quasi bridge]

him ?

[iron basin]

oui

[drowsy ingot]

Possible that we forgot the blessing?

[wooden monolith]

my bad

you re right

not 420, 500

499 i mean

vlad was right

you need only 2 flat crit

not 4

[austere frost]

For sure you aint gonna have max vulnerability without getting extra charges for void cleave realistically you get 12 to 18 flat crit from it

Not having shattered worlds is a loss of 5 extra crit but usually you will never need to reach 500 crit chance a little over 300 does the job

[drowsy ingot]

Now it’s 536 😂

[wooden monolith]

so you have 95% (with 15 flat crit)

but jellal says you get more tha, 6 with extra charges

so it s complicated lol

[drowsy ingot]

Well, at least I learned something usefull 😂

[austere frost]

That's the whole point no you can get like almost 100 reduction cooldown for void cleave from passives ,tree void cleave and anomaly making instead of 4 seconds like 2 little something cause its not 100 quite right so you can definitely almost max stacks and if you ever get 1 cooldown reduction on your gear which is quite good most time you have full stacks always

[wooden monolith]

i agree, but only for bossing.

for farming, you use only 1 charge

[austere frost]

For mobs most die to one hit

[wooden monolith]

so it s only 6 flat crit

yeah

[austere frost]

I aint gonna change my tree for both thigs

One hit its 6 flat 2 hits is 12 flat

[drowsy ingot]

Understood

I can fix changing bless for bossing, theorically

Or dont bother at all and go for crit multi bless ever

[wooden monolith]

changing stuff/blessing is only worth for ubber aberoth

[drowsy ingot]

Agree

[austere frost]

5flat,5 passive,let's say no uber relic but you get 2 hit of void cleave so 12 now you have 22 flat crit 100crit chance is 44 200 its 66 300 its 88 and you need like idk 60 or 70 to cap crit so like 370 crit chance %

[drowsy ingot]

I can switch bless and still be at around 450

[austere frost]

Now with uber relic and still 2 hit from void cleave 5+5+5+12=27 100 crit chance 54 then 200 81 and I dont even need 300 to reach 100 crit chance

[drowsy ingot]

And it’s ok because my ring with crit sucks and will be replaced

[wooden monolith]

not stuff i mean, i switch boots and weapon in inventory for bosses, but won t change blessing/tree

exept for UA

[austere frost]

You will never need 400% crit chance when gear gets optimized all i am saying just keep upgrading little by little

[waxen nymph]

Shocking, right? 😏😏😏

[austere frost]

This build doesn't even need 300👍

[iron basin]

anyone know how to change the game client's language from the default? I found the chat language, but not the game client itself

[drowsy ingot]

Thanks guyz, super clear.

[wooden monolith]

setting --> gameplay --> interface --> language

i changed to english, caus the traduction is ugly (ia probably)

[iron basin]

yeah I just overlooked it. thanks

I wanted to double check a bug. there's visually no "respecialize mastery" option on the respec NPC when the language is set to french. it's replaced with leave, but still functions like respecialize mastery

[wooden monolith]

yeah i had the same problem

was playing in french too

[waxen nymph]

Oo

Are we all french ?

[iron basin]

just went through and checked them all, it's all of the non-english european languages

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/sissi-sisi-sissi-trilogie-sissi-movies-romy-schneider-gif-11246166510329229836

[iron basin]

Non, je suis americain

[wooden monolith]

you can see how bad is my english, so yeah i am french

[iron basin]

lol

[waxen nymph]

Its pretty good

[iron basin]

I've been learning French slowly over the past few years

My french is significantly worse than your english

[waxen nymph]

I am afraid of all the translation needed for LEtools in 1.4

[wooden monolith]

it s hard to practice when you never speak english ^^

[waxen nymph]

Looks like there will be quite a bit of new lines to translate

[wooden monolith]

how do you learn ?

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

Learn what ?

[wooden monolith]

asking confe

[iron basin]

If you meant me, I've been using Duolingo. it's just part of my daily routine now

[wooden monolith]

ok

[iron basin]

it's terrible for learning conversational language since you can't practice natural speaking

[wooden monolith]

me playing everquest (a long time ago) and watching american series

[waxen nymph]

Almost March and somehow Greg still have a santa hat

[iron basin]

give my man his keg back

[wooden monolith]

the best is to learn in the country

[iron basin]

there's a french cartoon/"anime" that my friend sent me a few years ago. I do a rewatch of it every so often to see how much more I can pick up on without the subtitles

it was also made entirely in Flash which shocked the hell out of me when I found out

[waxen nymph]

Typing to people online is a great way to learn the written side of it
But to speak better is indeed to go in a corresponding country

[wooden monolith]

yep

[iron basin]

I just plucked a pure white hair from my beard. time to start working on my Mage cosplay because I've suddenly aged 50 years

[turbid dome]

[turbid dome]

🫵

old

[iron basin]

man there's still 4 weeks before the season and I can't stop thinking about different starters. I said I had committed to a spell TS but idk if I'm that committed to playing bad builds

[waxen nymph]

New icons !!

[waxen nymph]

🧙‍♂️

[wooden monolith]

what is TS ?

[iron basin]

tempest strike

also thinking about some kind of manifest armor because I've never used it

[wooden monolith]

manifest armor seems bad

[iron basin]

supposedly forgebellows is playable

[wooden monolith]

forgeguard is bad

what is that

[iron basin]

it's a spell node on manifest armor. just makes it constantly spit out fire

idk if I believe that considering it's a spell dot, but there was someone in here that swears it's good

[drowsy ingot]

Italy.

[wooden monolith]

vlad where you from ?

[wooden monolith]

"dot" damage over time ? it is not a dot ?

[iron basin]

yeah damage over time

spell damage over time

spell dot

[wooden monolith]

i see fire/spell (not dot)

[iron basin]

maybe I'm mixing it up with raptor then. if it's not a DoT, then it can scale with crit

and that would actually make it playable, maybe

[wooden monolith]

i have 32 tyran s skull from beasts in stach, maybe i should try a build too

raptor+manifest armor+forged weapon maybe

[iron basin]

what's the skull bonus from attunement

is that the crit multi?

[wooden monolith]

yes

[iron basin]

actually Armor + Rex could be fun

[waxen nymph]

🇫🇷

[young rose]

hey pookie bears what would be a good leveling gear for javellin pala into vk?

[wooden monolith]

i ve tried shield throw with manifest armor, and the MA was dying fast on UA, was not fun.

[iron basin]

I'm not expecting to kill Uber. I'm just wanting something fun

[wooden monolith]

ok

[iron basin]

i wonder if Force of Impact is affected by the increased stats from the node before it

that's a lot of flat phys if it is

[silk wasp]

Might've been @fair hollow Dunno how far he got last season.

[fair hollow]

i have been summoned

[iron basin]

lol

[fair hollow]

its good and can do 1k+ corruption but dont expect it to clear uber

[iron basin]

yeah I don't expect manifest armor to do that at all. can't imagine the survivability is there

they should let manifest armor attack with forge strike

[fair hollow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Brdn7ePA

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (33) / Paladin (55)

General:

▸ Health: 5,442, Regen: 1,585.98/s
▸ Mana: 253.27, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 67 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 88% / 88% / 76% / 119% / 79% / 72%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,754
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (6,010)

Used skills:

Symbols of Hope / Holy Aura / Manifest Armor / Healing Hands / Rebuke

[fair hollow]

wait wrong one

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qe3Xpm5o

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (33) / Paladin (55)

General:

▸ Health: 5,152, Regen: 1,521.9/s
▸ Mana: 253.27, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 23 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 67 Att / 14 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 88% / 88% / 76% / 119% / 79% / 72%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,696
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (6,010)

Used skills:

Symbols of Hope / Holy Aura / Manifest Armor / Healing Hands / Rebuke

[fair hollow]

here this one

[iron basin]

oh yeah I didn't think about peak

probably crit caps him easy doesn't it

[fair hollow]

yup

[iron basin]

does he still inherit the leech disable?

[fair hollow]

yes but he has giga regen

since flat minion regen is alot when combined with normal hp regen % affixes

[iron basin]

how exactly does the forge breath work? is it just an additional burst whenever he auto attacks, or is it a completely separate thing that happens alongside it

[fair hollow]

it replaces auto attack when you have 2 points in the cdr node behind it and scales of cast speed

[iron basin]

ah ok

i'll have to keep this saved for when my phys build fails

[fair hollow]

if you wanna see how it looks early in league

[iron basin]

yeah looks solid

why can't his autoattacks do that? what gives EHG

[wooden monolith]

weird build, the ma fights for you, you can just open chests and loot lol

and cast rebuke

there is 1 button builds, and now zero button build, you let your ma kill everything and watch it

[iron basin]

devouring orb autocasts itself while you walk. can also theoretically be a walking sim

[silk wasp]

Thicket exists and is Uber viable

[wooden monolith]

reflect builds, you just walk and everything dies

by watching you

if you suck at last epoch, you just need to walk

[peak zodiac]

my smite character sorta halfway does this. dorbs scale with all the same stuff, so they clear trash and i just smite the tanky stuff while i zoom

[true raptor]

Possibly not for long

It's confirmed getting nerfed, just need to wait and see by how much

[forest kelp]

🦎

[indigo nebula]

anyone know if bluerfeather bands less mana cost for spell skills works with jedgement? I know judgement is like half spell half melee

[waxen nymph]

Judgment is a melee attack that happens to procc a spell

But you use a Melee Attack

I don't know for sure, but I dont think it works

[alpine canopy]

Usually mana cost modifiers apply based on tags only, like +level effects. So, it should work, but still can't reduce mana consumption effects like from pious offering.

[warped plume]

What MA skill is that?

[waxen nymph]

Forge Breath

[fair hollow]

yeah

[iron basin]

I haven't actually played with the Robot, does his basic melee attack have any kind of cleave to it or is it purely single target?

[waxen nymph]

Purely single target

[alpine canopy]

Pretty much all melee attacks have a small area they hit, at least, but yeah no cleave to it

[iron basin]

man I wanna try it out but that clear sounds like it'll be miserable

[alpine canopy]

That's why attack based MA usually relies on the attack shield throw procs

It's still not great though tbh

[fair hollow]

you can also go MA whirlwind attack with t7 or t8 cdr on boots if you dont want the shield throw route

[iron basin]

is there minion CDR on boots?

[iron basin]

robot has exacty 1 damage multiplier on the tree for its hit damage. the other two are for forge breath and phys DoT

feels like it relies too heavily on your gear stats when gear doesn't really provide more damage, just increases

[silk wasp]

No, there’s regular cdr on boots your MA gets 240% of.

[iron basin]

oh, duh

[fair hollow]

340% actually

its 100% base + 240% from node

[iron basin]

what's a T7 roll, like 34% CDR?

102.4% ICDR

so something like just under a 2s CD

[fair hollow]

can also get extra cdr on gloves and helmet

[iron basin]

feels like the WW would need to get to around 1s for it to feel okay for clear

however I do wanna see him turn into a beyblade

i think you can get the CD down to 1.4s

[fair hollow]

you also have to take the animation time into account

[iron basin]

yeah true

[young rose]

hey guys i have a question, which guide should i follow for vk?

[waxen nymph]

What skill do you play ?

[young rose]

i dont really know what i should play on vk

[waxen nymph]

Strong skills are
Warpath
Erasing Strike
Rive
Multistrike + Smite

There are more

[silk wasp]

VK kinda spoiled for choice

[young rose]

what would you guys reccomend if i want to do some uberroth and high corruption?

[uneven gorge]

Funnily enough VK can also go javelin, since you echo any throwing attack

[wooden monolith]

I recommand the same as vlad : warpath, rive, erasing strike, and smite multistrikes are the strongest skills and can kill ubber aberoth

[young rose]

thanks thanks

[waxen nymph]

I gotta try Multi Smite Vk

Loved it as Paladin

[wooden monolith]

It s way stronger

[waxen nymph]

Thats what I understood from previous convo indeed

[wooden monolith]

Yep, because you slam vita instead of hp. So your dps is higher

[peak zodiac]

and the increased + flat prefix is really strong, and mana is much easier and less clunky. i will probably league start multistrike smite if selfcast doesn’t get buffed

[waxen nymph]

I need to start a list of build to do next season

[wooden monolith]

I am legacy, and i ve tested almost everything (exept ES), i need to test new class

I like melee builds though

[waxen nymph]

Try primalist

Or spellblade

[wooden monolith]

Ok, will do

[young rose]

holyyy multistrike smite seems so fun

might farm the gear for it

i have to choose now between warpath or multistrike smite, what do you guys think?

[warped plume]

Completely different play styles.
Spec both and try them to see which you like

[wooden monolith]

warpath is easier to play, and faster, but both are fun

[waxen nymph]

What has the most dmg, VK Multistrike or Multi Smite?

[austere frost]

Vk multistrike smite now if we ever get a conversion to void like rive got could be cool trying that out

Is it me or they said they want to add cold conversion to warpath idk where I saw that

Idk I would rather have more conversions to skills like gimme more void lightning ones

[young rose]

i dont know that

[young rose]

i mean talking about damage which one is better?

[austere frost]

Warpath its the strongest vk builds this season if that's what you want to hear

[silk wasp]

The monkey's paw curls and we get a bunch of void/lightning 50/50 split damage nodes

[wooden monolith]

only if you swap gear, but noone play like that

[austere frost]

What are you talking about warpath its strongest build this season

[wooden monolith]

yep

[austere frost]

It has way better clear and bossing its not number 1 but with minmax its still top tier

[waxen nymph]

There are 2 things
New mtx coming in 1.4 that looks like cold (it's probably shattered glass)
New conversion confirmed (no type) in 1.5/1.6

[austere frost]

Rive erasing muti smite time rot they all have to stop to attack warpath guy always done echo before any of us only one beating that is like a rogue build

That seems good as long they touch the skill warpath is great but not sure the channel cost is gonna stay the same

[iron basin]

ooooh what if your manifest armor was constantly affected by a warpath shrine

beyblade robot

[austere frost]

For real they need to start changing all the hit more damage and make it generic i would love to make a dot warpath build but its pointless right now

[wooden monolith]

i agree, warpath is my favorite build ^^ it s the best speed farmer*

but not the highest dps, rive or time rot is better

dps

[austere frost]

Yes single target but they dont hold a candle

For clear

Thus warpath being strongest build of vk this season is accurate

[iron basin]

I mean that's probably healthy for the game as a whole if builds can be tailored specifically to map clear vs bossing. We just need 15 years of seasonal content to give more variation to the content you're doing

[austere frost]

A min max no swap vk can kill uber in like 2:20 max minutes and has way better clear

My point is difference isn't that much but clear smokes every one hard so

[wooden monolith]

one more thing, UA kill is way easier with warpath, because you can t be stun, and no need to manage collisions

[wooden monolith]

all builds should get some speed. some skills are cool but i can t play them because i feel like a turtle. like shield bash

[austere frost]

Yep I aint going back to builds that make you move under 100 ms

[silk wasp]

Smelter's Wrath: 💀

[austere frost]

I can farm so fast barnacle that the lizards can't touch me

[austere frost]

Don't speak of the greatest skill ever made

[silk wasp]

Maybe if you get movement speed low enough it'll wrap around to being fast

[wooden monolith]

i ve seen an UA kill with smelter s wrath lol

[peak zodiac]

yeah lizard is probably the only one who is good enough and has the endurance for it and 22 min fight with insane gear lol

[young rose]

I see isee

[wooden monolith]

22 min... if fight last more than 5 min, i just give up

[austere frost]

I dont have the strength or fortitude to do that for 22 minutes

[wooden monolith]

i do not have the skill to last so long

[wooden monolith]

with your 230 ms warpath ? link ?

[austere frost]

Its really bad, I aint wasting gear on slams until I see new patch haha fun fact I dont even warpath to abuse max movement speed

Next league I am gonna do 3 barnacle per minute pretty sure since you can do 2 in like 1 minutes now

[wooden monolith]

is it worth it to do barnacle ? compared to troves

[austere frost]

Its same as troves but very few enemies but you can do many more in 1 min vs troves

Its definitely worth if you move extremely fast because I get a ton of imprint procs anyway from it

[wooden monolith]

mamamia, i ve sold them all

[austere frost]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo what have you done son

[wooden monolith]

lol

i tried barnacle a lon time ago and thought it was trash

i had no speed farmer

[austere frost]

Realistically its not the worst thing but in dead times I just done like 120 in an hour maybe 180 next league with new amulet,

[wooden monolith]

ok ok, i won t sell them anymore

[austere frost]

Yesterday I did some cause needed extra 4t7 copy for someone and got it

The chest are lost chest so proc imprints the same

[wooden monolith]

ok tx you

[austere frost]

Ignore lizards enemy and loot ones i find best result

[wooden monolith]

troves are expensive

[austere frost]

Yeah they are

You get tons barnacle from running them which is good

[waxen nymph]

Gosh, 120 times the same map in 1h

💀💀💀

[wooden monolith]

i can t do that, i do farm a lot, but i like diversified farming

[young rose]

is the maxroll guide on warpath good or not really accurate?

[wooden monolith]

let me take a look

yep, it s good

gear is good, slam on army of skin is weird, mouvement speed + vitality, warpath don t use vitality ?

[young rose]

uhhh

so what do i need to do? lol

[orchid juniper]

the vit might just be trying to hit the global 10% more void damage threshold from d.orb

well hmm no, it clearly doesn't come close to the requirement for that

[wooden monolith]

get darkstride boots, and slam mouvement speed+health%increased health, army of skin is good but it s slow, darkstride is better for levelling and farming

[austere frost]

That's Last epoch endgame sadly ,troves at least with people is a lot more fun but equally repetitive

Maxroll build is good I would follow that and then ask here for help when needed

[peak zodiac]

you get more melee void per 3 vit from vk mastery bonus

[young rose]

So should i follow it as it is or make the change lazare suggested? Lol

[peak zodiac]

i personally would go for vit over hybrid health but vit will be more dmg and slightly less hp while hybrid will be more hp but no dmg bonus. army of skin vs darkstride is mostly preference. skin boots are still pretty fast boots and higher dmg option, darkstride is more ms but less dmg

[young rose]

I see i see

Thanks to everyone that has been helping me really appreciate it pookies

[wooden monolith]

haa right

i forgot this

[turbid dome]

dont forget vit is also some resistances

[wooden monolith]

how much mana do i need for ES build (just got a 2LP world splitter with 0,3), for UA kill ?

[austere frost]

A lot i would try with closer to 1.5k mana

This my movement speed boots

[wooden monolith]

it s insane

i want it

i still need to slam the world splitter, i ll probably fail

[austere frost]

Next league I have a plan new amulet,plus vitality stacking probably rive or warpath again i am sure i am gonna go over 250 ms

[wooden monolith]

can you link the amulet ?

[austere frost]

I am just gonna give my next strat

[peak zodiac]

i have to see what rampancy does, looks good for smite and can get giga ms but i'm not huge on losing like 1k flat hp

[austere frost]

If vitality gives rampant and that gives increased haste then I will be running way faster so now really lizards cant even touch

[wooden monolith]

explain me how you get some ms with that thing

[peak zodiac]

vitality converts to rampancy and you get haste effect from rampancy

[austere frost]

Yes thats a big downside feels bad even

[wooden monolith]

ok

[austere frost]

I thought about smite vitality stacking but I guess you can still wield 2 hand apathy and darkstride and passives and run like 266 ms or something like that

Just to make grind like barnacle actually passable while watching stuff🤣

[wooden monolith]

it s good for smite but you loose frenzy from nihilis

i can switch amulet for bossing i guess

[austere frost]

This amulet may not be bis for every build or for doing uber ,but for ms seems good enough we will see in 3 weeks😍

[wooden monolith]

yeah

can t wait

[austere frost]

Rogue for sure is getting overbuffed

Easily getting 20% chance of not taken damage and you can factor dodge cause sure you loose flat from dex but can get sources in gear and this seems a lot of ehp

[wooden monolith]

does void cleave still scales with vitality if converted to fire ?

trying a new build ^^

[orchid juniper]

don't most of the sentinel fire conversions make them scale with attunement instead? or is that only the spells

I guess the void cleave tree doesn't actually mention that changing, hmmm

[daring lion]

What is the forge guard flavor for s3 and incoming S4?

[silk wasp]

Dumpster

[austere frost]

Maybe secret patch notes why dont know let's have hope

[clever hazel]

lava burst shield throw forge guard seems decent, the haste penalty on forgemaster's might makes it incredibly unappealing though

[wooden monolith]

multistrike FG (can kill UA) is strong, but sucks at mapping.multistrike paladin is way better

[iron basin]

don't listen to these guys, we stan Smelter's Wrath in this chat

[turbid dome]

One day forge guard will have a cohesive vision

[silk wasp]

Wdym the firephysicalthrowingtwohandershieldminionarmor mastery isn't cohesive?

[peak zodiac]

while also wanting to scale dex strength and attunement xd

[turbid dome]

you forgot dots

[silk wasp]

Osprixbane and smelters might aren't real. They can't hurt me.

[turbid dome]

or that one node on forge strike that gives it giga dot pen

[austere frost]

You are gonna see smelter hammer throw build coming season 5 gonna be op

[silk wasp]

Smelters wrath axe throw deletes UA in 6 seconds with the new 100,000% more damage item they're adding, trust.

[azure torrent]

I keep hearing about judgement pally is it any good SSF HC what should my gear/lvl requirements be to switch to it

[waxen nymph]

It's very tanky, not the most dmg

Gear wise, I believe you can just jump into it

[young rose]

guys i respecced to warpath vk and symbols of hope disappeared from the skill bar? and i dont have it in the skill tab too but its still in the skill tree

[waxen nymph]

Do you have 15 pts in the Paladin tree?

[young rose]

oh

lol

i had 14 my bad

[mental flare]

How would these 3 work together?
poison, void and necrotic all taken as phys = ok
50% of elemental damage converted to void (and then converted to physical?) the rest is taken reduced by 30% (prism)? the less void damage taken from abyssal is ignored right?

[wooden monolith]

Good question

[waxen nymph]

Dmg taken conversion only happen once

If you take ele dmg, half will be converted to void. The ele part will be reduced by Prism wraps, the Void part by Abyssal Fluctuation

If you take necro, Void or psn dmg, they all get converted to phys

Phys dmg won't get converted

@mental flare

[young rose]

do you guys use rax's universal filter?

[drowsy ingot]

I remember a video about that but haven’t used it

If you go for the warpath vk, maxroll loot filter is ok and it requires less editing. But it’s up to your preferences.

[wooden monolith]

I do my own filter, caus i am testing every builds

[waxen nymph]

This is the way

I know everyone has fun in a different way, but
Asking what build to play
Following a guide
Using someone else Filter

To me you have removed 90% of the game 😅

[young rose]

yeah i noticed

[young rose]

lol i cant do a loot filter on my own if i could i would

[true raptor]

Yeah, I never understood this much myself either

People pay to not play games these days

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[true raptor]

Sure you can, if you know what you're looking for then you know what to highlight and remove

[drowsy ingot]

You can safely play all the campaign with minimal filtering.

[waxen nymph]

My lootfilter in the campaign has 1 rule

[wooden monolith]

My filter has not many rules : 1 rule to show the uniques i want (with good stats), then hide everything. + rules to show helmets and idols i need

1 rule to show all 2t7

[waxen nymph]

How do you set this one up?

[wooden monolith]

2t7 ?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[wooden monolith]

Show affix : select all affixes + with at least 2 affixies more or equal than 7

Not sur this is the best way to do it, but it works ^^

[drowsy ingot]

I did the same

But i also makes rules for filtering idols decently

[iron basin]

I use it as a template for my filters and customize the hell out of it. It's a good starting point but needs a lot of tuning for whatever build you're playing

[austere frost]

I have rlues for 3t7 and 4t7 as well recolor and sounds cause there is too much 2t7 nowdays i can't pick that stuff anymore

[austere frost]

I do my own lootfilter ,when I started playing the game I watch video of someone making a video about setting up lootfilter, in the end this is way better cause streamer filters are kinda whatever the more you progress

[wooden monolith]

severius how is you vk ?

[wooden monolith]

do you need 2 rules ? a 4t7 is also a 3T7 ^^ my 2t7 rule show 3t7 and 4t7

[austere frost]

Yes cause idc about missing a 3t7 but a 4t7 warrants me running immediately doesn't matter if there are 4 necrotic golem I must pick that😅

Like i have to get rid of 2t7 so my 3t7 fit and even then I won't have tabs for 3t7 even though my imprint change so I dont focus on one item forever

I have a 62 fp amulet and a 56 fp ring non nemesis so that was awesome

3t7 those 2 hard to get upgrade

[wooden monolith]

did you craft any 3 or 4T7 item yet ?

[austere frost]

Right now for me its all about fp upgrade ,if we get upgrade from 3t7 to 4t7 great, but focus on picking only 3t7 and hope fp upgrade on 4t7, and the 3t7 you have that still dont have 4t7 on that category

Yes of course

[austere frost]

4t7 being useful its very hard but 3t7 its very easy you get some many that I have perfect 3t7 for builds

[wooden monolith]

wana show some of them ?

[austere frost]

I do have a pair of gloves 4t7 47 fp with health,frailty,melee attack speed and attunment which i can change to strength or dex or int if i need for 1 fp🔥

[austere frost]

Sure like what category you want

[wooden monolith]

warpath ?

[austere frost]

Ok you talking about slams

[wooden monolith]

yep

did you slam any item yet ?

[austere frost]

No I am waiting next patch maybe slams become a tiny better

I have a 3lp shattered chain but like if I miss said slam I would rage quit😅

[wooden monolith]

you legacy ?

[austere frost]

Yep

Always since 1.0

Cof

[wooden monolith]

same for me, i don t like seasons ^^

now you need to get the 3lp uniques

[austere frost]

My friend has on chest t7 warpath t7 increase mana t7 health,for imprint since he plays more he got 4t7 leonine which makes craft easier since you proc a ton more of that helmet

He got the siphon slam void,strength health but the crab ring scapes him

Missed like idk 8 times 3 lp slams

[wooden monolith]

i missed most of my 3 lp slams

[austere frost]

Getting the exalt with perfect mods its hard enough thats why I complain about that

[wooden monolith]

missed 2 3lp titan heart, 1 carcinisation, 1 3LP nihilis

[austere frost]

I have no kidding like over 10 crab rings and 3 lp titans still have 5 left ,I dont like collection uniques i just want slams to not mess with us like how it is,so I was done with my lich like 4 months ago could min max a lot more but nah it does everything well enough

[wooden monolith]

omg 3lp crab ring ?

10 3lp crab ring ?

.

played 2k hours and got only 1...

how do you get them ?

[drowsy ingot]

Lvl97, no upgrade from last time

I got a couple of syphon 3LP but no good rings for the slam

[wooden monolith]

nice, did you get the 3lp ring with nemesis or looted them ?

[drowsy ingot]

Got tons with shade, i pick everyone at least 1lp and turtle them

[wooden monolith]

i do the same, but i s been a while i didn t get any 3lp

[drowsy ingot]

Swordcatcher is trickiest

[wooden monolith]

yeah it s a pain

[drowsy ingot]

Trying to get another with 2 lp but for now no luck either with drops or turtle

[austere frost]

3 lp rings

[wooden monolith]

2lp is hard to get

[austere frost]

Just imprint swordcatcher you will get some then nemesis turtle 2 lp ts gonna hit

[drowsy ingot]

And also if I had, I miss the axe for the slam 😂

[wooden monolith]

yeah you can miss a lot sometimes

ho the exalted ?

the exalted is easier to get than the 2lp swordcatcher

[drowsy ingot]

Yes yes, im doing exactly this procedure. Im also rerolling to get +6, then nemesis or turtle or whatever

[austere frost]

One time you are gonna get lucky with nemesis

[drowsy ingot]

Not sure. Im having an hard time more with exalted than uniques

[austere frost]

I have a 3lp catcher for imprint from nemesis brick you will get it

[wooden monolith]

i get my 2t7 from imprints, not from cof

it s faster

[drowsy ingot]

Yes, agree. Prophecies aren’t reliable for exalted

[wooden monolith]

good luck for your swordcatcher, i remember i missed slam on 2lp world splitter 6 times

[drowsy ingot]

Urgh

[wooden monolith]

i needed it to kill my first UA

took a while ^^

[drowsy ingot]

I take it very chill. If it happens good, otherwise still good

For what Im doing the char is already strong enough, not sure im really interested in uber bossing

[wooden monolith]

it s not fair, i ve done a ton of ring prophecies and got only 1 crab ring so far, i hate you

[austere frost]

All prophecy no imprint

Mostly 99% grinding exalts

I will refrain to show other stuff

[drowsy ingot]

Ive two lp3 crab rings too

Lazare you have been a little unlucky with crabs

[gusty abyss]

3lp crab ring is more common than 1lp red ring.

[wooden monolith]

ok, i have been very unlucky

you ve started the game like 2 weeks ago lol

[drowsy ingot]

One month, I joined discord a bit later

[iron basin]

crab ring is generally like one of the first handful uniques I get in a season lol. it's honestly pretty common

[iron basin]

I wish it was gigadot pen just for more variety. it's specifically bleed pen when you've got basically 0 bleed support elsewhere in FG

[wooden monolith]

barnacle is good

fast with many chests

i guess i was drunk when i sold them all

[mental flare]

it's correct to say that 50% less void damage taken and 50% armor mitigation is the same amount right? (first case without blossom, second case with)

although i know less void damage taken is not additive

[waxen nymph]

Sorry I don't understand

[clever hazel]

50% armor mitigation is equivalent to 50% less physical hit damage taken, and 35% less <everything else> hit damage taken
50% less void damage taken is.. 50% less void damage taken

I wouldn't describe them as the same beyond "they contain the same number: 50"

[turbid dome]

in a vacuum, yes 50% DR is 50% DR... but armor also applies to all types of hits where as 50% less void dmg taken only applies to void damage

in practice when considering a big conversion setup, no because converting only works in one step and is based on what the incoming damage is

IE: 100 fire damage is thrown at you, it gets split into 50 fire and 50 void due to Abyssal Fluctuation. the 50 void does not then convert into phys because things can only convert once

Then things like prism wrap, your resistances and the %less void dmg taken kicks in on the split 50 and 50 damages

---

If a void damage attack hits you, then that all converts to physical damage and you wont benefit from %less void damage taken

the set up is good (in general) but I disagree with prism wrap + abyssal fluctuation, as abyssal flucuation is already doing the same thing (reducing elemental damage as your converting all the void hits into phys) without taking your body armor slot (plus prism wrap is an armor thats hard to get LP on)

plus since things only convert once you still need to invest into void resistance, which reduces the advantage of the amulet, not needing to invest into necrotic/poison/void defense, while also letting armor work against them (as armor is more effective vs phys)

[mental flare]

yeah i agree, is not worth to take both, blossom investment is the key

[turbid dome]

basically rambling aside, if you want to use prism and the amulet, drop abyssal flucuation so your prism wrap does its full DR value (30% > 10%) and you don't need to care about void defense

You might just want null portent over prism as null gives 20% Dr to phys which is getting a lot thrown at it… while also giving 20% Dr to ele stuff too

Adding abyssal fluctuations then should be better in general I think?

[waxen nymph]

@manic cradle
Mind sharing your planner?

[austere frost]

Its pretty strong vlad like vs uber it demolishes too ,you should see the weapon he made😍

[manic cradle]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/debris/character/Mazunte

there's also a build guide (not mine) in chinese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSJxgI81iYc

it has a link to lastepochtools guide

the build is pretty insane, but single target requires a bit of practice, cause you need to target enemy with every single skill, in right order

took me about an hour of practice to get it right 80% of the time

regarding the gear, it's quite easy to get everything, except the weapon

i gtg, can answer any questions later 😉

[waxen nymph]

Yeah, I know you the build
I played smth similar for a bit

I just wanted to drool on debris's planner

[waxen nymph]

@minor elbow

I got a theory

That requires you to put your tinfoil hat on

[turbid dome]

👀

[alpine canopy]

We need a grole with tinfoil hat emote

[waxen nymph]

So, listen to this

See how they have taken out Blade Storm from UB

What if Radiant Lance is taken out from Javelin
It would be the Big Solo Javelin archetype

With Holy Trail too

And base Javelin would become Siège Barrage

[alpine canopy]

I like this thought

Javelin is definitely a crowded skill

I know for sure they will never get rid of the splitting javelin thing because javazon

but that wouldn't stop them from moving that to radiant lance

[alpine canopy]

What if it's the other way around, though? Maybe radiant lance would be siege barrage / banner?

and holy trail could then become an aura/ground effect around the banner

(or stay with normal jav for more pally options)

I would totally love more sky lasers, too

[iron basin]

holy trail would be a pretty sick skill

[orchid juniper]

I was just looking at javelin again earlier today and lamenting how it almost supports a bunch of interesting builds but mostly isn't viable in the endgame

[clever hazel]

I use Javelin as a second traversal skill all the time. I find it way too tedious to use as a damaging skill with Siege Barrage though.

[orchid juniper]

like, Sierpenski's spear+salt the wound and some basic throwing/bleed gear sounds cool but I tried it briefly w/ a level 70 or so paladin last league and got owned in regular monos I think

[iron basin]

yeah but being a second traversal skill isn't really the same as actually using the skill. the primary usage is meant to be a main damage dealer

[clever hazel]

It's super frustrating how Siege Barrage auto-targets with a controller, but no such option exists for mouse + keyboard. If that did exist I'd gladly play Electrify Javelin as-is, no other changes needed.

[iron basin]

i tried an electrify build using the T8 champion affix and couldn't figure out the mana problems

[clever hazel]

I spent several hours trying to figure out how to play with a controller and quickly swap back to mouse + keyboard for inventory stuff and just couldn't make it work, so I gave up on the idea. 😭

swapping was too clunky for the auto-targeting benefit

[iron basin]

i didn't really have any problems with using SB with mnk

[clever hazel]

I just found it incredibly tedious to play with while running echoes, it's too much manual aiming required for how slow the animation is

I'm mentally comparing it to self-cast smite where I just vaguely wiggle my cursor in the direction of monsters and it always hits something, far more chill gameplay

I don't remember having any mana issues with the build though

just get -5 mana cost rings, and don't put more than 1 point in divine fury

with 3/3 excellent balance each javelin throw ends up costing ~2 mana IIRC

and as long as your attack speed isn't too wild that's very sustainable

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, delayed ground target combined with fairly small area makes siege barrage feel real clunky for clearing

It's really cool looking though, especially as lightning proccing lightning smites lol

[minor elbow]

Is this the thing you wanted to talk about?

Legit have no idea but i would love it

I am falling into my "do anything but LE" phase so no burnout for s4 launch so ya really gotta pimg tf outta me. Lol

[mental flare]

Is the best shield in the game too much to ask?

[wooden monolith]

javelin has (at least) 3 end game viable builds, lightning crit, electrify and phys javelin

[iron basin]

nah brother, you shoot for the moon

I believe in you

[wooden monolith]

it works just fine, swap is easy (play with controler, you auto swap to controler, same for keynoard)

controler is way better for melee builds, it sucks for aiming skills

did someone try void multistrike ? was wondering if it s stronger thaan multistrike paladin

i mean vk multistrike

[alpine canopy]

Theoretically, it should be better due to echoes and easier flat damage access, but I don't know for sure

[wooden monolith]

easier flat damage ? how ?

vk multistrike is phys i guess

[clever hazel]

void knight can get flat void per vitality for smite

[wooden monolith]

ho ok

but mulsstrike vk is physical

[clever hazel]

VK also has an easier time solving mana, I don't really play multistrike though, prefer just self-casting smite

[austere frost]

Are you trying to just do multistrike or smite multistrike

[wooden monolith]

i am talking about multistrike, not smite

[austere frost]

Vk can do any melee build except like shield bash better than pally and forgeguard so I wouldn't be surprised if its better

Since rive never had a conversion before to void and always vk rive was way ahead of pally and forgeguard there

Now with conversion its very strong

[wooden monolith]

ok, i will have to try i guess ^^

yeah it s one of the strongest vk build i ve tested

[austere frost]

Vk did healing hands melee build better than pally and never had any fire buff on its tree to give example

It was way stronger

[wooden monolith]

ok ok, i think i already have the stuff for testing from other builds, exept the body. paladin multistrike very strong, one of the best bossing build (1'50 with 2t7 on UA)

[alpine canopy]

Ah, assumed a smite build since there's no void multistrike

VK does still have echoes over pally

[alpine canopy]

tbf, rive does have double echo chance which drives that

[wooden monolith]

there s no conversion to void, but you can play physical vk mlultistrike ^^

you just need to not take the increase void damages nodes

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, well I mean you can technically play void multistrike by stacking added void to take advantage of the more void damage multis in VK. That's how rive was played prior to the void conversion was added, but it has easier flat void access than MS does, so idk if it would be worthwhile to build void MS.

[wooden monolith]

yeah you re right

won t do it lol

[wooden monolith]

lothrik, what s wrong with the controler swapping to keyboard ? it s automatic ^^

[clever hazel]

I mean the physical process, I don't like using a controller to begin with and swapping all the time for inventory management felt bad to me

I posted a suggestion around 2 weeks ago regarding javelin targeting, and I'm pretty sure I posted something similar months ago in the old suggestion channel.. fingers crossed lol

[wooden monolith]

ok. my wrists hurts ( i m an old man) so i don t mind to put controler on desk to grab mouse. controler is so good for non aiming builds, i can t go back to keyboard mouse anyway

[austere frost]

Again healing hands is a fire skills so what void knight does he ignores all his void damage and focuses entirely on the damage the skill does ,he may miss like nodes that buff physical in the passive tree the mastery like forgeguard has but it doesn't matter you basically gear it up like it was a paladin ,because echoes and a lot more access to attack speed you end up being way stronger

Just play vk like you would the other mastery and focus on the skill and its conversion ignore void damage completely

[wooden monolith]

devouring orb would be bad with this build

[iron basin]

This fire conversion talk reminded me of the conversion on Abyssal Echoes

It's like Smite at home

[wooden monolith]

ok, so i don t need to farm stuff, ijust convert my multistrike paladin to void, but wondering wich skill to use

multistrike, void cleave + abyssal, anomaly and symbol of hope i guess

but i will have mana issue

[wooden monolith]

after some tests, UA fight is around 2'30 (from 1'50), paladin is better

[austere frost]

Did you try full void or full physical also what's the gear

[iron basin]

Does abyssal echoes' spell-hit node have any kind of ADE? doesn't say and I don't see any spell info on it

[waxen nymph]

I believe it's 200%, or maybe 100%

[gusty abyss]

AFAIK, they don't show info they consider to be "implied", like a skill that hits doesn't have a "hit" tag. AE does not show damage effectiveness and therefor has 100%.

That also tracks if you compare base damage and scaling of smite (30, 150%) vs the base damage you get from the spell hit node on AE (20, 100%).

[waxen nymph]

You are probably right

[iron basin]

it looks so neat

makes me want to build with it

hey this came out okay for just clicking without caring

[waxen nymph]

To bad it deals no dmg

[iron basin]

if it gained % scaling with the attunement node like it did for its healing, it might be usable for an ignite build

it generates a ton of hits per cast

has an 80% multi and 40% multi

[gusty abyss]

dont forget the 5 casts per use from the screaming rifts node

Still, it deals no damage xD

I am currently running it as part of my spin to win: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/skyqula/character/roflcopter

Out of the ~ 3219452 DPS, AE is good for 42495 DPS (with mob DR).