#šŸ”±ā”ƒsentinel

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visual stirrup
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I spent 18h yesterday getting this

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1 lp with a t7 slam is as good as it gets at that point

peak zodiac
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hardcore is obviously gonna slow down your pacing regardless but if you’re efficient hitting the ā€œendgameā€ planner on a maxroll build more or less is generally doable within 2-3 days

visual stirrup
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IDK where I'm supposed to be conjuring 3 LPs and 3 T7s from

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at sub 300c

peak zodiac
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well there aren’t even double t7s in their endgame planners but yeah triple t7s definitely take a lot more time than that

visual stirrup
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the endgame planner has triple t7s

peak zodiac
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for judgement?

visual stirrup
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let me upload my planner real quick, because I think this is most definitely as good as it gets for my point in the game, which is 300c

warped helm
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@peak zodiac i take that back, i think my expectation for endurance threshold is a bit skewed from coming from a higher hp character so getting to 2-2.5k on a lower hp char is proooobably harder, though every minor idol would be 35~ flat with nest

austere frost
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Let's be honest rampant beast spells are sort of bs on the scaling do way more damage than what it should

visual stirrup
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (59)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,052, Regen: 276.52/s
ā–ø Mana: 130.95, Regen: 8/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 41 Str / 3 Dex / 2 Int / 15 Att / 16 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 298% / 127% / 134% / 91% / 105% / 77% / 82%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 72%, Threshold: 1,208
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,408)
ā–ø Block Chance: 102%, Mitigation: 50% (1,924)

visual stirrup
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Like, what else am I supposed to do?

austere frost
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Being honest I dont think last epoch is the most friendly game for hardcore with the bs damage it comes your way sometimes

visual stirrup
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I'm used to bs damage, I ladder hcssf on poe2 lol

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but I'm genuinely confused how I'd be expected to have better gear at this stage

austere frost
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Lightning beast is one shot territory a lot or the fire tornadoes insta cant avoid one shot as well

peak zodiac
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I mean it’s hard to quantify 100% because a lot of it comes down to game experience and many of the details of being effecient are extremely minute

visual stirrup
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sure, but you're looking at a full 1 lp set

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if this isn't ready for 300c, then what is

peak zodiac
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i haven’t played hardcore in a while but for me better gear than that is farmable within a day (2 at most) on a fresh start

visual stirrup
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gl slamming 2 LPs on 100c

peak zodiac
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you essentially need to view rampant coast as being at least double what your actual corruption is because that echo scales extremely hard with corruption

warped helm
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i couldnt imagine playing hc in this, with ehg's stance on all these 2 screen wide range monsters and such (i dont wanna prepare every build for shit like that)

visual stirrup
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ok but the point was that my gear isnt ready for 300c

peak zodiac
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your gear is fine for 300c, just not 300c rampant coast

visual stirrup
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what else would I do but rampant coast

peak zodiac
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and you can definitely get good gear without rampant coast, i hardly used it at all during the first week.

warped helm
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rampant coast is essentially 400c by default running it at 100c

visual stirrup
austere frost
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I think they need to nerf the base damage of rift beast still way too much damage in 1 hit

dire prairie
peak zodiac
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either a good exalted (oracle amulet base probably) or something generic like pearls of the swine

visual stirrup
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IDK why a build that requires triple or quadruple the investment to something like LB to do rampant coast is praised so much

peak zodiac
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because rampant coast isn’t the only content in the game and lightning blast is essentially good at cheesing coast on low gear which doesn’t immediately make a build top tier for hardcore

visual stirrup
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I can see Pala being okay with Null Portent, but if a build starts functioning after Aberroth, it's a shit build lol

visual stirrup
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My issue is that I am trying to farm better gear, but I also need corruption to farm better gear, so I genuinely don't know where I'm supposed to get better gear from.

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So if I die trying to get the stuff that I need to survive getting the stuff that I need to survive it, then what do I do

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at this point I'll take a roadmap idk

peak zodiac
# visual stirrup what is gear that is ready for 300c rampant coast?

leonine (doesn’t even have to be exalted)
exalted or unique amulet with healing effect or ele dot t7 on a good base
graver 1lp
champ regalia (again, doesn’t even have to be exalted)
any shield that caps your block
2lp sunwreaths with ele dot t6/7 and healing effect t5 (or t1 block to cap)
1lp immolator’s with t6+ inc hp or hybrid
1lp wing guards with t6+ melee as or hybrid
i would use 1lp boots with t6+ hybrid over ms until 2lp on hc
any exalted or unique relic on a half decent base with t6+ judgement
a couple idols with any prefix and block effect suffix
rest of idols to cover res

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with that gear i would feel very comfortable doing 300c rampant and that is farmable within a day

visual stirrup
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appreciate that, I guess I could have slammed differently

peak zodiac
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also for things with low lpl like sunwreath i would prioritize 2lp t6/t5 over 1lp t7

visual stirrup
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what c do you farm that at?

peak zodiac
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all of that should be farmable even at 100 but the answer is always the highest you can do without getting you killed

warped helm
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you can farm plenty at lower corruption still once you got some CoF ranks tbh

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prophecies do so much

visual stirrup
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I climbed up in c because nothing dropped for me at 100

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what about getting my other blessings

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when do I do that

peak zodiac
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i’d grab min roll blessings and be fine except for the 2 that really matter, which are block (at least 8% to cap) and all res (enough that you don’t have to sandbag your idols to cap res)

visual stirrup
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what c?

peak zodiac
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the rest of them the upgrade from not having the blessing to having it at minroll is much more substantial than the upgrade from minroll to maxroll

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ideally 200 to unlock the 5 blessing options after defeating the harbinger

visual stirrup
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I've been farming 300c heorot for 4h today to get the 8% block

peak zodiac
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are you starved for keystones?

visual stirrup
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they went towards farming heorot

peak zodiac
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i’ve never needed to use this method personally but green loot lizards do drop a fair number of keystones, so you can always spec for loot lizards in the weaver tree for a bit

visual stirrup
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That is what I do

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They went towards farming Heorot

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took me 4h

peak zodiac
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for an 8% that does probably sound like just bad rng but worst case i’d grab exalted block chance on a ring or gloves

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or i’d just temporarily use a different shield with a higher block chance like majasa shield or bulwark of the last abyss

warped helm
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@warped night still had that tab open just now noticed your setup was using pale ox, makes sense now the weapons. do the MS idols now definitely work for single target as well btw?

warped night
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yeah, the extra sword can hit the same target just like the base skill ones

visual stirrup
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@peak zodiac How would you level up an alt btw?
I did a 2h campaign with skips, jumped to Mono but kept doing the normal Monoliths at 10 lv below theirs.
Would you jump to Empowered immediately for the better exp gain?

peak zodiac
peak zodiac
warped helm
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more juicy bases for the dualwield guy, still no idea how to live, maybe its just a life stack basic endurance angle with portent and hoping for the best

grizzled swallow
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penetration yeah

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oooooooooops

warped night
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lewd

rare grove
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alright back to trying to farm a permanence of primal cadence I guess

rare grove
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i was just starting to despair about these gloves and then i got a naked 1LP red ring drop so I guess I'll simply suck it up

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If RNGesus believes in me, I can believe in me too.

warped helm
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bleh, some more uberroth attempts on the vk, can get to the 2nd harbinger but shit still takes too long imo, could use a red ring but id rather shorten the fight, maybe oceareon would help a lot too for chill

tough zealot
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,712, Regen: 44.8/s
ā–ø Mana: 279.45, Regen: 12.16/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 54%, Regen: 25/s
ā–ø Attributes: 67 Str / 25 Dex / 26 Int / 25 Att / 46 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 118% / 72% / 72% / 57% / 77% / 82% / 71%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 979
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 4% (100)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,610)
ā–ø Block Chance: 85%, Mitigation: 45% (1,667)

tough zealot
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more than 500 try and all I can do is bring him down to 20% health.

rare grove
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hot diggity damn, they dropped

visual stirrup
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[Judgement Paladin] on 1 LP Sunwreath, does Elemental Damage over Time have priority or Healing Effectiveness?

waxen nymph
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2.7k hp, 40%Endurance

austere frost
visual stirrup
austere frost
# visual stirrup how abut on Blossom? Same thing?

I would also get elemental dot there as well,depends how much healing effect you have you want to have over 1k at some point ,healing effectiveness affix got nerfed on its values so its lower now ,so attunment affix is a lot more competitive vs healing effect on rings as an example

visual stirrup
austere frost
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This very important to get

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And idk if this works with consecrated ground but its strong as well

austere frost
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A void knight doing healing hands better than a paladin🤣

quaint sparrow
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Does armour shred effect also work the same for diminishing returns?

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It is worth picking up?

waxen nymph
waxen nymph
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It is worth picking up some

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It 85% More Dmg on Physical Hits and 60% More Dmg on non Physical Hits

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You dont need a lot

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Usually one affix is enough

south ledge
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What are we thinking about void knight multistrike? Besides the Phys pen node, nodes seem to be generic. Trident of the abyss as main weapon and using truesight glass for big crits.

waxen nymph
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Oh like Melee Multistrike ? Not Multi-Smite ?

warped helm
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vk extra swords is pretty good too

waxen nymph
quaint sparrow
waxen nymph
waxen nymph
quaint sparrow
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That’s what I was thinking too, thank you.

warped helm
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i should really rely on a single shred idol on my vk too, i have an entire t7 affix on my ammy

south ledge
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (73) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,498, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 126.51, Regen: 8/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 67 Str / 8 Dex / 8 Int / 13 Att / 29 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 59% / 27% / 37% / 20% / 127% / 29% / 29%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 912
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 1% (32)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,227)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 80%

south ledge
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Something like that (half cooked so far only)

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Void beacon might be interesting too, but with trident we can get additional 5% flat crit from FG passive and reach the 140% easier.

waxen nymph
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True

south ledge
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I got a nicely rolled truesight glass with 20% less DMG over time taken and 1 LP. Was thinking how to utilise it, and I had this trident multistrike idea anyways

waxen nymph
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Do you think you need this on top of Void Well ?

south ledge
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I'm afraid the mana drain will be huge with that many swords xD

waxen nymph
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I would move the leech over to echo chance, you already have a lot of leech from the weapon

south ledge
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Mana might be the biggest issue

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Oh true, forgot that

waxen nymph
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Do you need CDR for smth ?

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Whats your traversal skill ?

south ledge
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Time bubble has 100% uptime without CDR?

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I'm often using unspecced volatile reversal

waxen nymph
south ledge
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I know the skill is not famous, but I like it mapping

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In that case I could skip the cdr

south ledge
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Same

waxen nymph
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Also, do you numlock ?

south ledge
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Usually not

waxen nymph
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If you do, Immediacy is not required

waxen nymph
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Just making sure

south ledge
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Should be skill, but won't break the build if not

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Tried with smite in past, and saw many orange numbers with the additional flat crit

waxen nymph
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Also I would move 2pts from AS to More Dmg at full stack (and you had an extra pts)
10% IAS isnt going to break it but 45% More Dmg is great

waxen nymph
south ledge
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Might lvl up a void knight from scratch

waxen nymph
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OO

south ledge
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Harmony of the first with t7 melee attack speed is actually fun for lvling

waxen nymph
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I got one with Melee Flat

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For your second ring, have you considered Oceareon ?

south ledge
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Depends, I was considering a red ring to boost resistances.

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Otherwise that would be a good choice for DMG also

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For mapping crab ring might be good too at first

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At first gotta check how the playability is. If my mana is constantly at 0 there won't be many blades attacking. Shall see about that

south ledge
waxen nymph
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I wish it was an axe so you could lvl with VC

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I use MS to level iirc

forest kelp
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bad roll heavybreathing

waxen nymph
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Maxroll for the doom on hit !!

forest kelp
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first time use rune evo lol

waxen nymph
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Pog

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Too bad the suffixes are bad

wooden mountain
warped helm
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my rive vk uses this atm

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my first channel evo turned out pretty bad too

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pretty hard to start with something useful and then have evo not rip 20+ potential away

forest kelp
warped helm
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also to anyone who farmed uberroth, be real, arena is only getting worse/more hectic <50% right? or does it stay roughly the same

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the combination of my dps and tankiness makes me not wanna practice more, to 50% is already a little too much effort with this build

forest kelp
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I haven't been to the arena many times, either before or after the update

warped helm
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yeah i remember people saying hes worse this season

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lucky for me i dont know how it was before omegalul

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a tankier build or maybe even a dot build would probably be much better for practicing, maybe my other pally idea can get there

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its specifically this vk rive build that could use the glove to get tankier too, unlucky

quaint sparrow
dire prairie
waxen nymph
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Did he got changed ??

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I mean except this, I cant find anything

dire prairie
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yeah the judgement nerf

warped helm
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it might be that the person i was watching was specifically talking old pally build

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cant remember but yeah that would gut healing heavily

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ok im kinda just not good enough at the fight i guess plus melee handicap, but my damage really should be more than enough, seeing some 700k+ rive crits sometimes now

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might give it a few more tries this time with chill

waxen nymph
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How much hp do you remove before the first big slam ?

warped helm
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80%+ a bit of his ward

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to 80% that is

waxen nymph
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Should be doable then

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Do you have a planner ?

waxen nymph
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Is that you ?

warped helm
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yes, what the hell i didnt know thats a thing lol

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yeah i guess i got a planner haha

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i could try more for a proper 2lp nest this one was old but i wasnt sure im sticking with it, other idea was replacing aoe idol with a double void+echo one for the fight but some aoe does help at times idk

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i definitely dont wanna run around with frenzy hat in that fight if ever changing positions

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2lp cleanse belt could help sometimes i guess

waxen nymph
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Thats a great character !!

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I am surprised you cant kill him

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Yeah you are missing a cleanse I guess

warped helm
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yeah more of a me issue like i said, first time really practicing him

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not killed him before

waxen nymph
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Yeah I feel you

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Got him for the first time this season too

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Was a hard one

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I have been trying to get a second kill but not been able too

warped helm
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the heralds die in like 4-5 seconds if they dont move which should help a ton too but i just eat a lot of puddles/frailty sometimes

waxen nymph
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Yeah

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You know you can destroy the void puddles ?

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The ones from the orbs

warped helm
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with the sand zone that spawns on you right? i noticed, does the ice one do it too?

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do people just dps near those zones so puddles cant spawn?

waxen nymph
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No with the big fire aoe that follows you for a bit then explode and stay on the ground

warped helm
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ok so just that one?

south ledge
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Did my first clear last season, also with judgement pally

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Yep the fire aoe

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I used 2 red rings though and foot of the mountain for extra damage reduction

warped helm
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and do people do that just sit near it (not in it ofc) and keep dpsing him for a bit?

south ledge
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Ended up being able to fully tank even his opening slam

warped helm
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lmao, i guess thats one option

south ledge
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Brewmasters buckle is great for that

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Before the slam empty all your potions and you have like 2.5k endurance thresholdGigaChad

warped helm
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do the big slams not give you a nasty long debuff though? forgot what that does

south ledge
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The nasty debuff comes from his necrotic attacks

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In the later phases

warped helm
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i played with buckle and capped endurance before but that didnt help the 100-0 hits and hurt dps too much

south ledge
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Until then you can basically just sit in a corner with him

warped helm
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oh

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really..

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the regular slams barely overkill me sometimes (<100 damage)

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so if i used my red ring i wouldnt die to those

south ledge
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Not sure if my paladin could do the same still, should give it a try actually

waxen nymph
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Its annoying when you never get a Fire Aoe

south ledge
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Isn't that kind of guaranteed?

waxen nymph
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I stun him quite a bit

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So some time he can skip some attacks

warped helm
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oh yeah ive stunned him out of his first big slam before haha

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not consistant too

warped helm
waxen nymph
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Oh no

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I play crows

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My phys warpath FG was last patch and I never play legacy char

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And it was really not finished

warped helm
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ah right i remember

waxen nymph
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Like t6 random helmet channel cost

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That kinda of thing

warped helm
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part of me really wants to try, the 4ex mace on the perfect base is so cool but dualwield is just so dead i feel like, if its not vengeance

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2h is already a struggle

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pally can get a lot of life tho so maybe, but then id really need a double life t8 channel helmet that also isnt a shit base and that seems hard

austere frost
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You can go erasing striker or warpath void knight those can kill uber,for rive you need more attack speed i think

warped helm
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i dont like erasing bossing and i kinda dont see how that would compete, my 3rd strike already hits for 700k+ at times (prob high health target)

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warpath vk setup is also so different from this one, not a simple swap and my channel helm kinda sucks

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@waxen nymph im curious, how did you even find me? dont think i ever linked my accounts or something with LETools

waxen nymph
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You dont need to do anything

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LET uses the LE API

warped helm
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oh i see i just entered ginnie

waxen nymph
warped helm
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haha, easy enough

waxen nymph
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I guessed you acn name ^^

warped helm
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btw does kill threshold work on uberroth? i keep forgetting about that, im basically "just" 40% away

waxen nymph
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Yup

wooden mountain
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yeah and you can use the 20% kill threshold sword as a quick swap too

waxen nymph
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Ah yeah quick swap in melee range in the last phase of Uber

wooden mountain
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I've seen people do it

warped helm
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ooooh

waxen nymph
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Got him ???

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Just got my second kill

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2x1lp Vise

south ledge
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Congratulations

waxen nymph
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Still a bit sad I forgot to pick that 2lp pair ^^

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Did you get him @warped helm ??

warped helm
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busy at the moment but i lp'd my redring with 16 str, need to enchant my 2nd new idol first then gonna go at it again

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grats tho, what did you kill him with?

waxen nymph
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Still crows, I wanted to prove myself first time wasn't a fluke

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Playing a broken build makes me want to play smth "bad" / weird

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Anyone has an idea?

warped helm
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ah right i already forgot

south ledge
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Healing hands skyfall šŸ˜‚

waxen nymph
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It's too bugged sorry

warped helm
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if i cant figure out the dualwield situation im gonna try smite again but lightning/electrify

south ledge
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It ticks the box for bad idea Gregory

waxen nymph
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It does

south ledge
warped helm
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i hope you mean dualwield, not electrify? cause anything that can use a shield already has a head start omegalul

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2 different ideas, i wouldnt DW on electrify

warped helm
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huh, red ring feels way stronger than just 10% dr in 700+ corruption monos.. neat

quaint sparrow
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Depends on how much DR you have in other places due to diminishing returns

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It'll feel more or less impactful depending on your build

alpine canopy
inner hedge
warped helm
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oh yeah i got a 4LP rainbows edge yesterday too, wanted to use that for electrify... already forgot

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4LP is so much pressure getting that perfect exalted item first i hate it omegalul

inner hedge
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yea I'm gonna need another one lol, rolls are ass. I have a perfect rolled 3lp I'm prolly gonna use first.

quaint sparrow
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I would have expected Darkstride to offer more movement speed than Army of Skin but it doesn't seem to for me

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At least, not on paper

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Does the movement speed it provide not get added to the character sheet?

warped helm
warped helm
quaint sparrow
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Ahh, that might be why then

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Thank you

warped helm
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damn they give me more ms even without any exalt ms affix, wish they were a tad stronger dps wise

quaint sparrow
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I am not sure I have any added melee void damage specifically which is why they are worse for me

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Just the 50 from my axe

inner hedge
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a flat void dmg t7 slam on axe will cap it pretty sure

warped helm
inner hedge
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for some reason I thought it capped at +20% movespeed

wooden mountain
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you may be thinking of the frostbite boots

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they get ms per dex capped at 20

waxen nymph
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Kinda mid roll

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But good enough to start

warped helm
waxen nymph
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (10) / Paladin (83)

General:

ā–ø Health: 4,415, Regen: 229.6/s
ā–ø Mana: 1,577.86, Regen: 10.88/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 64%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 39 Str / 23 Dex / 32 Int / 140 Att / 24 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 174% / 144% / 224% / 145% / 92% / 111% / 100%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 84%, Threshold: 2,134
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 4% (125)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 58% (4,098)

warped helm
waxen nymph
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Judgement of the storm ?

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Ah the passive

wooden mountain
waxen nymph
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Actually I got t7 Mana and t5 Crit Mult

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Its just fun to see Mana over 2k

warped helm
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damn, did some more rampant coasts, so many gloves again

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got a good evo candidate though

quaint sparrow
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94% chance to crit, not sure I want to dedicate an affix to get that last 6%

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Seems like a waste

warped helm
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okay few more tries new setup, 20%+ward on uberroth

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does 20% kill threshold go through ward probably not right

quaint sparrow
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I doubt it

south ledge
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okay the multistrike build is surprisingly good, even with subpar items

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can clear 1k corr, aberroth and 1k harbinger

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and turns out mana is no issue at all

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could even skip bladed focus

waxen nymph
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Nice

waxen nymph
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I respecced my multi smite

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Dmg is kinda underwhelming

wooden mountain
south ledge
waxen nymph
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I might respec for Fire Warpath Warrior Fury

austere frost
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Does fissure get the more damage from the smite tree or only the one it says fissure

waxen nymph
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The other are for hits and based on a condition of the enemy, so 2 reasons they don't work

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Dmg to blinded and dmg to Ignited

austere frost
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I reckon you can get like 4k to 6k increased dot for fissure but idk i have to try a character to see if it actually does damage

south ledge
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about multistrike:
each blade is hitting for 400k +/- and with truesight glass hits 700k+ each

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at training dummy

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dmg is similar to my multistrike smite electrify on paladin

waxen nymph
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Do you have a boss dummy kill time?

south ledge
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didn't yet

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will give it a try later

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considering my really subpar gear right now

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didn#t want to do it

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šŸ˜„

warped helm
south ledge
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trident of the last abyss

warped helm
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ah ic

south ledge
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (73) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,181, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 226.51, Regen: 9.6/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 63 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 24 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 92% / 71% / 95% / 80% / 174% / 82% / 69%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 915
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 74% (8,092)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 79%

south ledge
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that's the goofy setup right now

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obviously third eye, helm , siphon and relic can be improved

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also 2 LP spear

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but the build idea works, that is nice to see

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shadow beacon is around 40% worse than trident with same t7 slam

waxen nymph
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Oh, okay

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I see you took all 3 base crit pts in MS

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Still taking the cdr in Anomaly?

south ledge
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not needing mana freed up 3 points, and i dont have good crit chance items

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forgot the respec

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šŸ˜„

waxen nymph
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Also instead of 4 in Time Eater > 2 time eater and 2 Void Maw is better

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The increased is global

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So you get 7 from last Abyss + 1 Void Maw =8% x2

austere frost
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Its a shame multistrike can be converted to void ,healing hands to void would be awesome some day as well

south ledge
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technically it doesn't have a void conversion, only enables echoes

austere frost
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Sorry I typed wronged can't šŸ˜…

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I hope they get the rive treatment

south ledge
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well it's more than viable with this setup

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even without void conversion

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having that on top would be crazy šŸ˜„

austere frost
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You loose damage though, basically big multis on tree

south ledge
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although if I look at some s-tier builds....

austere frost
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We need more uber viable builds

waxen nymph
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@warped night I just saw your post in the forum. Just so you know Void Adept from DOrb has been fixed

uneven gorge
austere frost
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Need many conversions still🤣

silk wasp
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I hope Multistrike gets good FS nodes

warped night
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still leaves quite a few on my list though šŸ˜…

wooden mountain
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how do splitting javelins work with holy trail?

wooden mountain
# warped night still leaves quite a few on my list though šŸ˜…

yo I'm not registered on the forums, can you do me a solid and add the abomination sacrifice bug* to your post

*the "Destruction Engine" node in the abomination skill tree which triggers sacrifice sometimes sacrifices the abomination itself whether or not sacrifice is specialised to chain despite the node claiming otherwise. Given the involved summoning process for abom this makes it basically unusable

waxen nymph
wooden mountain
# waxen nymph They don't work together

so if you use fractal tree or the node after electric conversion with holy trail you get a 3s cd holy trail javelin that doesn't produce any splits or you get splits but they don't have holy trails or you don't get a holy trail but you do get splits?

waxen nymph
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I would have to retest it to be sure

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But iirc you get Holy Trail for the main spear, then split but no HT on splits

warped night
waxen nymph
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Screw lightning Fissure

waxen nymph
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Main Jav > HT
Splits > No HT

waxen nymph
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Should I do smth with that

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Fire Warpath ?

visual stirrup
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It's all coming together ♄

uneven gorge
south ledge
warped night
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plus forge strike detonating ground spam šŸ˜

warped helm
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new multistrike is definitely nice, if ramp warpath doesnt suit me im probably swapping immediately when i try the dualwield stuff

visual stirrup
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (60)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,100, Regen: 234.23/s
ā–ø Mana: 125.92, Regen: 10.4/s
ā–ø Attributes: 47 Str / 0 Dex / 0 Int / 9 Att / 2 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 286% / 98% / 98% / 122% / 87% / 82% / 166%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,089
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 4% (161)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,662)
ā–ø Block Chance: 101%, Mitigation: 61% (2,988)

visual stirrup
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@peak zodiac Rampant Coast time?
Not sure if I'm ready or not

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or maybe lv to 100 first for 11 Reverence of Duality šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

warped night
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you just trying to put as many consecrated grounds up as possible with this build?

visual stirrup
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yes

warped night
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makes sense then, was confused at first why you didn't make it an aura

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I wonder if it would be worth trying to get points into holy war and then investing further into pious offering

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it's a pretty big damage source if you can stack mana heavily

peak zodiac
peak zodiac
warped night
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Might be able to with butcher's crown

forest kelp
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Why don't the guys playing Rive with Axe like Void Cleave?

warped night
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my guess is that they probably didn't consider it at all

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void cleave is a great pairing with rive

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (73) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,181, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 226.51, Regen: 9.6/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 63 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 24 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 92% / 71% / 95% / 80% / 174% / 82% / 69%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 915
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 74% (8,092)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 79%

south ledge
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1091 corruption

zealous iris
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I don't need any stat to make the life leech work if I invest in the passive devoring blade right ?

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or do I require to take also that to make it work ?

warped helm
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any smart ideas for leech with electrify? dont think a few of these would cut it

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maybe healing hands and smite healing will carry but thats only when facetanking

winter copper
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no smart ideas

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šŸ˜‘

warped helm
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maybe i just gotta keep farming silly weaver swords, the right prefixes and its just too good

south ledge
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that sounds like a very tedious thing to do šŸ˜„

waxen nymph
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Weaver Gift yeah is your best bet imo

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Or a Bleeding Heart

warped helm
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<@&1161418687471956101>

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okay both builds i wanna play dont have the right sword to wield yet, either as main or offhand

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so maybe i farm more 1h swords see what lands first a good weaver or a good naals

warped helm
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getting real sick of this guys hitboxes sometimes

haughty mist
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Just a question, does healing hands proc of warpath, since technically you are doing melee hits

waxen nymph
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So yes WP proccs HH, once per channel

zealous iris
waxen nymph
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No it just works with the specified type (if nothing is specified its global)

wooden mountain
waxen nymph
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As soon as you got some , you will leech

zealous iris
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Great, thanks !

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I also found a prefix where leach would be faster with it. Is it really useful ?

wooden mountain
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there's overkill leech which leeches a percentage of the overkill damage you deal on a couple of items but normal leech doesn't consider overkill damage btw, so if enemies don't have much hp you won't leech much.

wooden mountain
zealous iris
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thanks for your help guys

visual stirrup
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Can I facetank 300c rampant coast? šŸ¤”

warped helm
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its so confusing that you see your original echo rarity/experience bonus when doing uberroth, i know it says its not affected but... i have trust issues šŸ™„

warped helm
waxen nymph
warped helm
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i got hit for 7k in there yesterday, on 740 corruption no less but still

wooden mountain
visual stirrup
waxen nymph
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Regular Abby ?

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I feel like it should be a walk in the park with your gear

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But I play SC, so having a feel for how tanky I am is not one of my skills

visual stirrup
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kinda the only thing for me to do right now - abby for null portent or coast for blossom lol

waxen nymph
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Vise only drop on Uber

visual stirrup
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oh

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just null portent then

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why is my armor + block eff suddenly lower lmao

waxen nymph
waxen nymph
visual stirrup
waxen nymph
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And armor and block effect scale with area lvl

visual stirrup
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oh

warped helm
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regular aberroth is a joke compared to lowest corruption coast

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the beast skill combinations can result in cheap oneshots, regular aberroth is pretty readable/predictable compared

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you get stunned by the first barrage impact? ah well guess you will eat all the others too then

visual stirrup
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so get null portent first?

warped helm
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i'd say so

visual stirrup
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aight ty

warped helm
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the amulet is one of the more common drops too though im surprised you havent gotten it yet from regular mono beast kills

visual stirrup
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I have not šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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I'm specced for rift beasts too

warped helm
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i guess corruption is very impactful for it, havent been <500 in a while

visual stirrup
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I was considering to get 3 crystal growth + 1 primordial ambush in case rampant coast is a bit too much

warped helm
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the ambush is unfortunately so rare

visual stirrup
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otherwise beacon + 3 lizard's inheritance

warped helm
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i kept it specced but just 1 point in the crystal heart thing, got more than i could ever spend

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and i see an ambush once in what feels like 40-50 monos

visual stirrup
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I'd like to get my ambers from beast, so if coast is too rippy, crystal growth would be my alternative

south ledge
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getting a 2 LP trident is pretty hard. I've never played merchant's guild, but probably easy to get 2 LP there

warped helm
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holy shit it sealed at 0fp cost

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4fp left with some flat melee phys need to swap attunement to str first šŸ‘€

visual stirrup
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pog drop?

quaint sparrow
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Definitely not bad at all

visual stirrup
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Though losing 10% Armor from Champion's Regalia base + Strength is a bit cringe lol

quaint sparrow
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If you're rocking Null Portent you will easily more than make up for the lost armour

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Assuming you are maximising the value you're getting out of it anyway

visual stirrup
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my Void + Necrotic is overcapped by only 13 atm

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that's where Blossom comes in

quaint sparrow
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Yeah

visual stirrup
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time to get it šŸ™‚

quaint sparrow
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Null Portent is great but you need to build for it for sure

visual stirrup
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another pog drop lol

visual stirrup
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Just so I don't misunderstand: Blossom of Immortal Stone means I can completely dump Void, Poison and Necro res, right?

south ledge
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I think so

waxen nymph
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Correct

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It also means you are getting a lot more value out of your armor

visual stirrup
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nice ty

south ledge
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now I just need one with 3 LP šŸ˜„

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couldn't even get 2 LP so far šŸ™

warped helm
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oh gosh 141 for 2lp?

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was legit considering dropping points for symbols earlier to grab 30% sentinel speed but theyre just too good and im not that high on inc% damage

visual stirrup
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Why is Flames of Midnight used for Judgement Pala instead of a second Sunwreath?

warped helm
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replaced all my other idols with raw dps ones and stuck with nest but still too impatient with uber aberroth and his shitty movements

warped helm
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i hate the evade replacement i cant handle it omegalul

south ledge
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I think I can take on uber aberroth with this build

visual stirrup
south ledge
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but trying to get 2 LP spear with melee void + melee as is hard

warped helm
# visual stirrup that's all?

yeah that and some pen, if you dont even get any pen people opt for the other swiftness one but swiftness is most of the time the reason yes

warped helm
south ledge
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definetly, also still running 1 LP so far

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double HP would be great

visual stirrup
warped helm
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i mean if youre using ward the bit of retention/gain helps too yeah but most people literally use it for just ms+pen

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oo lets go another

ionic oak
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hey guys, i want to come back to last epoch, havent played since s1,
any good starter build for paladin on hc

austere frost
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20 ms and fire pen is pretty good,the crab ring is just better most of the time after tge nerfs to flames of midnight

uneven gorge
south ledge
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finally, even decent rolls. now only need a double T7 and some luck xD

south ledge
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (73) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,736, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 215.51, Regen: 9.28/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 94 Str / 15 Dex / 15 Int / 20 Att / 38 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 92% / 71% / 80% / 96% / 165% / 96% / 87%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 1,019
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 3% (70)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 77% (9,453)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 83%

south ledge
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what type of helmet should I go for?

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thinking about leonine with str/vit + double health

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but i dont necessarily need the crit negation

warped helm
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i'm over it, aberroth and his shitty hitboxes and slams behind his back

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i use a echo/str/health/health terror crown atm, kinda just happened only 1ex, could improve that too but i was sorta done upgrading this guy long ago lmao

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wouldve taken terror or leonine tbh

south ledge
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terror is worth a consideration

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gotta get some prophecies

warped helm
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realised relying on blind on aberroth is pretty shit when stuff cant be attacked, i got crit by a void zone just then lol

south ledge
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with the current setup I get uberroth to 80% before his slam

warped helm
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im just not patient enough for it with this guy when he just goes full random mode after spawning a harbinger

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maybe meteors maybe get slammed who knows

south ledge
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yeah the clusterfuck is crazy

warped helm
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shit wrong double hit, but i take it

south ledge
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i feel like the laser are the bit that is too much

warped helm
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the lasers frequency of applying frailty is dumb

visual stirrup
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OH MY GOD I just dropped this and I'm scared to craft lol

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I want Healing Hands, Strength, % increased Health, Armor

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work your magic lol

south ledge
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consider using it as imprint before crafting

visual stirrup
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Imprint doesnt care about base

south ledge
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yep but t7 t6 and 53 fp is nice

visual stirrup
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I want that on Leonine

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pls dont derail lol

south ledge
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šŸ˜„

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we just talked about terror @warped helm

warped helm
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damn even thematic mods on it

south ledge
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think I will use it as imprint

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considering the high fp

warped helm
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im semi considering getting a MS titanheart on this guy, the vk extra swords plus idols with nest sound pretty hot

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just to try it out

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problem would be losing vitality idols

south ledge
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t4 julra also pops before her aoe even comes out

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yep i dont' think it's worth using

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sine echos get +2 swords

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means I have 5 swords on my main dps

warped helm
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yeah with so many swords and it being less not reduced per its probably good to skip

south ledge
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also you really need every point

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and Jousting is a game changer for mapping

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for bossing it's not needed but echo clear is much better with jousting

warped helm
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yea felt nice, sword ms aint too bad either though but id probably try to grab 1-2 target area nodes for my dw setup

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idk i should just send the reroll and keep this rive guy as is

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if electrify fails im doing the dualwield ms

south ledge
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i teste dual wield also

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eye of reen + scissor of atropos could be insane

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but on the squishier side

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and the sustain with trident is really good šŸ˜„

warped helm
warped helm
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staying physical

south ledge
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in voidknight?

warped helm
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nah new build would be pally

south ledge
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i wil try a FG version at a later point in time also

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with fractal tree and the new shield

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with +4 to skills

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would drop truesight glass for nihilis

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means +6 skill lvls

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so you could take guillotine on top

warped helm
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yea shield seemed interesting but also weird

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like the block while riposte mod, idk if id ever wanna rely on that instead of just capping

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get pummeled and suddenly youre missing 40 block? no thanks omegalul

south ledge
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ah that effect is bad

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tried it before

ionic oak
uneven gorge
south ledge
visual stirrup
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Very happy with how it's coming together ā¤ļø
PS: You can never have enough Fire res!

red lily
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congrats on the fire res šŸ˜„

visual stirrup
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I feel like I've hit a bit of a wall regarding my HP though.
Other than having 2 instead of 1 Health suffixes on my helmet, I don't see how I'd reach 3.5k or 4k like I've seen others have.
Feedback appreciated.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7WrLVgB

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (66)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,827, Regen: 359.7/s
ā–ø Mana: 148.75, Regen: 10.4/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 39 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 16 Att / 4 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 338% / 104% / 104% / 120% / 87% / 39% / 63%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 73%, Threshold: 1,371
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 4% (169)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,460)
ā–ø Block Chance: 101%, Mitigation: 60% (3,055)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 3%

austere frost
waxen nymph
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That's about 10 millions dps

visual stirrup
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Just looked at the planner. Didn't know this was how it's calculated.
With
2x Sunwreath: 2x180 = +360 base
Army of Skin = +180 base
Immolator's Oblation = +180 base
Null Portent: +0,39 multiplier
I can increase the 1512 to 2232 and the 1.87 to 2.26, for 5044 HP.
Nice.

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Blessed be the planner for letting me see the calculation behind it

waxen nymph
austere frost
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Yeah its great to see how your build can be better,nowadays double,triple exalted are easy to get

waxen nymph
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Hp is just like any other stat in the game
(sum of added) x ( 1+ sum of Increased /100)

austere frost
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Thought they need to buff imprints procs by quite a bit the only good one is the spam troves

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The echos rewards proc is decent as well

south ledge
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I'm curious how it compares to rive VK?

forest kelp
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7times, lost all my 2lp lol

warped helm
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the boss one?

waxen nymph
warped helm
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thats my rive vk setup

south ledge
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planner?

warped helm
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couldnt get another 2lp nest but also cant drop the frailty nodes unfortunately 😐

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i changed to 30% attackspeed though, sorta overvalued slow reduction for aberroth

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and actual hp is 4539 i think the relic might have rounding errors

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another 20%/70% ward try, wtf is that last phase šŸ™„

golden beacon
#

how do the forged weapons work exactly? they get the stats of your weapon (what if dual wielding?) but otherwise only scale with minion stats?

waxen nymph
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Correct
Also they get Inc Dmg and Flat Hp per Attunenemtn

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And for DW you get the stats of both Weapons

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The attack rate is averaged

golden beacon
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is it viable to build a FG so that the forged weapons are the main source of damage? or are they always more for cleanup and extra boss dps

waxen nymph
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They are very viable

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I have seen them do 800c ish

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Don't think you can do Uber though

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Usually you will go 2h or 2h + Shield for the tankyness

golden beacon
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nice, thanks

forest kelp
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Reroll until death šŸ˜‚

warped helm
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wtf

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how do you even make it to an exalt base like that

waxen nymph
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Kuden also only play in legacy

warped helm
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right mods > imprint > improve > imprint and keep farming i guess?

waxen nymph
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Smth like that

warped helm
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looks on the edge of believable but its not 4lp so its probably not hacked šŸ˜‚

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crazy

waxen nymph
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I said Legacy not offline

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And if it comes from Kuden, you can trust it

warped helm
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i know im joking

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ward kicks in before this would right

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the second he hits 20.9999% hp ward starts?

waxen nymph
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Smth like that yes

warped helm
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or well yeah he would have to be showing 19 already... meh i dont think this is worth then

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once the ward is gone hes basically dead

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ward feels so much higher than the actual hp its protecting

waxen nymph
forest kelp
forest kelp
warped helm
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first echo after grabbing a couple ring prophecies for fun \o/, even longer stun duration against me lets go! (maybe warpath can use it)

warped helm
forest kelp
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The sample item with high LP slightly increases the chance of printing high LP equal to the sample. It can still print higher, but at a normal rate. What you probably care about is the range of unique affixes? It has a fairly high chance of rolling similar to the sample for each affix

warped helm
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i see that, it would churn out similar modifiers a lot but not the exact same base

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so you just wait for the high rolls into 2ex > imprint > 3ex > imprint (+ a bunch of farming and "get lucky" ofc) šŸ˜„

forest kelp
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If you want to roll perfectly on a unique base with high LLP types, this is the only way

warped helm
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excuse me lol

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literally just engaged it so not blinded but thats a little excessive

austere frost
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The dragons are overtuned,their breath deals way too much damage so easy one shots from them

forest kelp
#

Rebuke Gregory

waxen nymph
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You would expect a breath type attack to be a dot

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I wouldn't be surprised it's meant to be a dot, but all the dmg is dealt as a hit on the first tick and can crit

inner hedge
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I dunno I've smelled some breath that's an instant critical KO

silk wasp
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I've been one shot by high corruption thunder dragons so many times

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Death lasers coming from just off screen

forest kelp
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When I saw that dragon turning to face me, I dashed around it, which is why I hate builds with low movement speed or skills movement with long cooldownGregory

bleak roost
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Does anyone have a planner for a Judgement Pally for Uberroth ?

alpine canopy
waxen nymph
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Fire Paladin

warped helm
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man this uber kill would be free if i already owned a pair of gloves

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few more attempts and im over it, last 20/30% ward try i suddenly couldnt move or evade in the last phase

waxen nymph
warped helm
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uhh

waxen nymph
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Void Cleave, Vorpal Blade More Dmg is still bugged...

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That's annoying

ionic oak
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whats best way to farm for thicket of blinding

ionic oak
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scam mods ban pls

soft rune
#

I need new ideas for primordial unique for a shield rush forge guard build

peak zodiac
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crit? bleed? ignite? shield rush can be played many different ways

soft rune
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Playing crit

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (63) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 2,798, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 176.2, Regen: 14.4/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 169 Str / 12 Dex / 12 Int / 17 Att / 14 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 127% / 60% / 73% / 51% / 91% / 53% / 53%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 1,139
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 2% (57)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 75% (8,508)
ā–ø Block Chance: 88%, Mitigation: 56% (2,589)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 12%

warped helm
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good strat majasa ..

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k just cheesed her with healing hands aoe lol

warped night
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damn I'm definitely on to something with this dual wield butcher's crown melee judgement spam pally

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šŸ‘Œ

warped night
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lot of room for improvement since my gear is just whatever I had laying around

forest kelp
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Most of the damage comes from Vengeance? omegalul

warped night
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nah, judgement

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vengeance doesn't do shit for damage lol

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as per usual

compact mantle
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I guess you could try to build Vengeance, but I don’t think it’s gona be good.

warped night
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yeah, it's not a vengeance-focused build

waxen nymph
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🤢

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You loose all the good feeling of VC with the instant cast

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It doesnt have that "oomph"

south ledge
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (88) / Forge Guard (5)

General:

ā–ø Health: 3,735, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 242.51, Regen: 9.68/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 88 Str / 15 Dex / 15 Int / 22 Att / 51 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 96% / 75% / 72% / 96% / 165% / 101% / 89%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 747
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 6% (168)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,460)
ā–ø Crit Avoidance: 79%

south ledge
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Had a new idea, since I got a spear with a lot of flat melee damage and also void damage

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Titanheart with +4 ES and 15 mana gain on hit with vengeance might be pretty good.

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Already hits harder than my world splitter ES VK

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The extra defense layer from vengeance is also pretty good

waxen nymph
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So you Vengeance > ES > Vengeance > ES > Vengeance > ES ?

forest kelp
south ledge
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I hold down ES and vengeance

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Since trident auto casts echoes you get some really big hits in

waxen nymph
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How is the mana ?

south ledge
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Well it doesn't really matter since I hold down vengeance. But more mana = more damage. That's why i think mana on hit with vengeance would be really strong.

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But adding additional mana regen or Mana doesn't make too much sense I think

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In this setup uberroth went already to 80% HP and +/- 80% of his ward before the slam

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Unspecialised ES showed 880k DPS in the tooltip, that got me thinking šŸ¤”

forest kelp
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Some guys often do it this way to lvling and farm at low corruption

warped helm
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i was thinking about ES with the overkill axe, but not like ES really needed help for clear

south ledge
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I was wondering if I have both buffs from vengeance and echoes, if ES might make sense to play on cooldown with +3 echoes. Does each echo inherit the multipliers then?

warped night
# waxen nymph 🤢

you could give that judgement build I posted above a shot if you want a use for that eye of reen

warped helm
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idk if i'll continue this electrify journey, smite selfcast even with hands proliferation and extra bolts still just doesnt feel satisfying, or maybe hammer timerot just ruined it for me in terms of fluid dot gameplay

warped night
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yeah gonna be hard to beat hammers for fluidity

warped helm
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and the timerot spread just felt great with it, the timerot rework overall was just amazing

warped night
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for sure

warped helm
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we couldnt put set bonuses into legos right, id give timerot another go immediately haha

warped night
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right

snow tartan
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Anyone built an ignite forgeguard using the forged weapons to stack ignite? I'm stacking like 3-400 ignite stacks and tanky af but not really sure the best way to scale the ignite damage on the minions with forgeguard.

warped helm
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what was the verdict on wildfire embers anyway if anyone tried, ive not found a single one which is crazy to me

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though its not gonna fix the feel of smite its just so slow by default idk

alpine canopy
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The fire spread on it is not very useful, so if you ignore that line it's mainly just a big ignite chance source

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If they ever fix blade paladin's conversions, I will totally try a vengeance ignite build with it for funzies

warped helm
warped night
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this DW judgement pally goes way harder than I thought it would tbh

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butcher's crown works really well with max pious offering and all the various increased mana regen effects I can get as a pally

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deliverance, symbols, covenant of dominion, urzil's pride

austere frost
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If a skill has timerot chance does that affect timerot scaling damage example 400%chance to apply timerot?

south ledge
waxen nymph
austere frost
south ledge
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okay let's try this šŸ‘€

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30 seconds for dummy kill

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pretty solid I would say

warped helm
# south ledge pretty solid I would say

i surrender to uberroth for now, not sure another red ring would do much, the gloves would be huge but yeah when they are gated behind uber what can you do

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just dont have the patience for a fight like that atm i guess keep doing mistakes

south ledge
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it's the reason I went back to playing non seasonal lol

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just so I have access to my immortal vise and shattered worlds

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first kill really is hard

warped helm
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also still salty, that at my 20%/30% attempt, i could not move nor roll out of his shitty slam

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no idea why probably bodyblocked in a weird way

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i hate collision in arpgs >-<

south ledge
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sadge failed the slam

waxen nymph
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Pretty solid

south ledge
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my helmet even has attunement instead of str lmao

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I assume with some min maxing can near 22-23 seconds

waxen nymph
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On ES ?

south ledge
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yep the build I sent

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with trident

waxen nymph
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ES is so above the rest, it's not even funny

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Just the skill it self

south ledge
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yeah

warped helm
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is it really, i always found it so limited by the cooldown/cost

south ledge
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I did neither play warpath nor rive VK so can't comment on that

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but ES seems pretty insane

waxen nymph
south ledge
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for example MS is pretty solid now

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but it only reaches around 50-60% of the dps I can do with ES using the same gear basically

warped helm
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for the annoyance of managing cd and mana i suppose

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but yeah wait since when does this thing have so many huge multipliers lmao

waxen nymph
south ledge
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in 1.2 they increased the damage effectiveness from 450 to 600 also

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which is crazy on its own

waxen nymph
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And the mana cost benefits you because usually you run worldsplitter, so you get base crit for it

warped helm
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yeah never felt like making a worldsplitter build

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in seasonal even

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forgot about it

waxen nymph
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I am looking at Forge Strike, another 600%ADE skill

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ES has 50%,25%,100% More Dmg + More Dmg per Vit, plus echoes

warped helm
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tbf rive is 500% combined too šŸ˜

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just a little slower for all 3 strikes i guess

waxen nymph
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FS > 75% More Dmg and than 50%'Phys 50%'Fire

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Oh and Detonating Ground, with 200%ADE

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Noice

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We really are in the same realm of dmg

south ledge
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and on top

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forge strike also melts ur fps

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while ES is well optimized for quick spam attacks

waxen nymph
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But hey!! You can take a 2h+ Shield if you want to deal even less dmg

warped helm
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i see 2 100% more multipliers alone on ES

waxen nymph
warped helm
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do people not take the vs time rotted one?

waxen nymph
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They do

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What's the second one?

warped helm
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thats 100% as well

waxen nymph
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Ah yeah

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Forgot it's doubled

warped helm
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insane

waxen nymph
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It's fine I guess

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And let's not talk about Judgement

warped helm
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what would i even wanna hit on a 2lp splitter

waxen nymph
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The big slam in pzlzdin

warped helm
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flat and speed?

waxen nymph
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With 350%ade

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Anyway

warped helm
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yea i tried to play unarmed judgement before.. that felt awful

waxen nymph
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Idk if you want speed or Flat Crit since the nerf

south ledge
warped helm
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i felt vulnerable and slow idk

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cant recall the exact setup though

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i mean if were talking 900 mana that would be 9% base crit + 5% vk crit already +5% default

waxen nymph
south ledge
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attackspeed is trouble some cuz you struggle to keep with your mana already without it

waxen nymph
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Not your mana pool

warped helm
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oh

south ledge
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with the frenzy effect on my boots + shattered worlds

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I can tell you 975 mana was not enough

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šŸ˜„

warped helm
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funny thats the first build guide i see using the immunity primordial helm

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stuns on aberroth annoyed me so much too, way too long

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oh right extra echoes mana consumption i forgot that part

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now i feel like slamming the splitter just to see if it lands

waxen nymph
warped helm
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theres no way you would pick t5 void damage% prefix over t5 multi right.. even being VK and all but youre not picking up multi on VS at all

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yeah i know but that explains why attackspeed would be rough to run i guess

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could actually use a mana prefix i forgot thats a thing

warped helm
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k its not quite making me consider immediate reroll

south ledge
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Sadge

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I will stay on the trident setup

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It's hilariously strong and also tanky with vengeance

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And feels good not having to stack mana

warped helm
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yeah i feel that

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got myself 2 more 2lp naal's in an attempt to make one for the dw setup instead of the electrify stuff now, farming on the vk

warped helm
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nice, on a +2

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plus idk if i wanna modify this any further other than potentially splitting it

austere frost
warped helm
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yeah went with multi but didnt land

austere frost
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Erasing strike has a node that gives 400%chance timerot i hope that gets affected by rot grip cause that would be insane very good

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Its ok you can get a fair amount of 2 lps you will get lucky someday if you farm rayeh all the time

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Warpath is sort equal to erasing sometimes better other times worse cause you cant land your spin echoes when there is too much aoe stuff

alpine canopy
warped helm
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soo, the only reason VK warpath with warriors fury doesnt go for flat channel cost reduction is it doesnt have to with massive mana pool and restore? flat -cost is otherwise still useful even with primordial channel cost?

waxen nymph
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You go mana eslwhere

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the bigger pool you have the longer you can channel

alpine canopy
warped helm
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yeah but -16 from WP tree seems pretty significant for anything that isnt VK warpath?

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speaking entirely non voidknight here

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so far pretty fun but im kinda getting rekt , might need all health idols or something for these dualwield shenanigans

waxen nymph
alpine canopy
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but yeah, as Vlad said, when not doing warrior's fury it is super common to take -cost so you can infinitely channel

waxen nymph
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Nowadays, its just Spell Warpath isnt it ?

warped helm
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and in theory flat -cost should be even better with t8 channel cost?

alpine canopy
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Bleed should still be fine

waxen nymph
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I feel like you would go for 1pt in WF, no ??

alpine canopy
waxen nymph
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It woudl be a lot of dmg afterward

warped helm
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i'm playing with -16 tree cost -3 relic and 64% reduction helm atm, have 3 points in it feels good for now

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not too slow not too fast to oom

alpine canopy
waxen nymph
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AH !!! omegalul

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Welcome to Sentinel
There is that one spell thats use in 25 differents ways

alpine canopy
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The original storm bolt omegalulportal

austere frost
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Percent channel is best and t8 is needed ,t7 can work with good mana pool though

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Vk warpath is the best one though maybe when the less chance to apply ailments gets reduced or get rid off you can pull a damage over time warpath build thats pretty badass.

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https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AVzVldXA this is what I got so far , its good damage and can do uber but for me specially i dont like uber fight too much crap going around and he sits and all his dots pools its so hard to apply triple echo on him, currently at around 1400 corruption hoping for more imprints proc but probably better to farm at 1k corr, less one shot rampant beast

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

ā–ø Health: 4,297, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Mana: 1,514.08, Regen: 10.08/s
ā–ø Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
ā–ø Attributes: 67 Str / 18 Dex / 13 Int / 18 Att / 53 Vit
ā–ø Resistances: 99% / 166% / 80% / 83% / 82% / 83% / 83%

Defenses:

ā–ø Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 1,296
ā–ø Dodge Chance: 3% (72)
ā–ø Armor Mitigation: 71% (6,904)

austere frost
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I really hope they add a mana reset after every echo done,its incredibly annoying and bad for the build starting an echo with almost no mana

warped helm
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1 point warriors fury i couldnt imagine playing that for long

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anyway tho im not vk and dual wielding so very different setup, trying it out but might swap to multistrike

austere frost
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Spin to win feels very good,erasing also felt very good but a bit worse than warpath mapping wise

fluid apex
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I saw a video that said Thicket of Blinding Light can make leveling an alt from 35-70 way faster, has anyone tried it?

worn garden
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reflect shaman spriggan was my league starter build

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took me like 300k favor to max my idols out of 1by1's

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wrecked all but ubber abby

fluid apex
worn garden
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save your runes of ascend for those items first

fluid apex
worn garden
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thorn totem is used to get more rage regen in spriggan form

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to be able to sustain the cost of casting etteras blessing from thorn shields

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which also give you increased damage

fluid apex
worn garden
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works for all

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all classeswcan use hazel root+thorn shield+ thicket of blinding light

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saw lonestar mcfluffin crushing it with a forge guard thicket of blinding light build with rebuke

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which if i wanted to do uber abby id go forgeguard reflect lol

fluid apex
# worn garden works for all

Cool! I'm fairly new, just leveling my first alt to try some different builds. I'm excited to give it a shot, thanks for all the advice!

worn garden
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no problem yo have fun!

warped helm
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awkward, multistrike already dealing the damage that warpath is dealing after 10 seconds of ramping

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with 3 points in warriors fury... lol

torn vector
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multistrike doesn't cover the entire screen as you move through enemies tho 🧐

warped helm
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yeah fury warpath farms that is true

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ok dualwield/sword/mace multistrike is definitely not as cool as the spear one, that poke has some range

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and the armor shred difference is just silly, where warpath gets to 50 (which would be enough) multistrike gets to 250 which would allow me to drop an idol roll or whatever

south ledge
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The spear conversion node is really great for mapping

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Doesn't feel the same without it

warped helm
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yeah idk why i remember the regular ms being almost similar in range/aoe, it really isnt

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or two handers have more base range? idk

south ledge
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Well yeah but the aoe clear is still bad if you play with spear, but without the spear conversion node

warped helm
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mhm

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maybe i try 4-5 fury points and focusing on rive mana restore more

warped helm
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if only warpath would atleast trigger healing hands once a second, it would help so much with ailments

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or, you know, they could just get rid of that dumb penalty

warped night
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you can at least get the spear conversion without wielding a spear, you just don't get the crit multi

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vacuum with rive & generate flame drinker stacks -> kill pack with 5/5 fury -> repeat

warped helm
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not sure if bugged or intentional change

warped night
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huh. was working that way as recently as 1 patch ago, recently changed my build that uses multistrike though so haven't tried it in a while

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I was using a 1h axe + catalyst w/ the node and it was still a spear

warped helm
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let me try once more, got my rive mana setup that i can get rid of easily all the time

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has anyone here messed with the cadence hammerdin setup at all? that seems like such a fitting setup/build to make proper use of the axe and i love the idea of not needing a +4 affix on titanheart for massive healthpool

warped helm
warped night
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nice

warped helm
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LETools cant show the crit chance of certain skills right, that would be so nice

warped night
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right, at least it isn't too terrible to add in the extra crit a skill has and calculate it yourself though

warped helm
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for some reason doesnt include symbol crit for my new char

warped night
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it only includes symbol crit on the full build planner, so if you're looking at your profile it won't show, but if you open in planner it will

warped helm
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oo thx!

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well didnt expect that, the longer i dps the dummy (unrealistic combat ofc) my mana actually drains with just 4 swords +95% chance from idols from the consumption node

warped night
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yeah you gotta be careful about mana consumption on sustained single target fights

south ledge
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something about erasing strike really feels so satisfying to use šŸ˜„

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really happy with the trident version afterall

warped helm
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am i gonna get jealous

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neither of these DW setups really feel juicy enough to justify more damage taken, despite my kinda insane mainhand and 29 total skillpoints

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multistrike got the insane sustain and meh clear, warpath the insane clear but ramp up time

warped helm
south ledge
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good question

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20m+ I think

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if the echos crit with truesight glass

warped helm
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oh yeah youre still using truesight

south ledge
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yeah I kinda like the extra rng factor for big hits šŸ˜„

warped helm
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ok to be fair my multistrike setup has no primordial mod or unique where the wp setup needs the primordial channelcost

south ledge
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and 20% less damage over time taken helps a lot

warped helm
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not sure what i would use i guess truesight is easiest to implement

south ledge
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yeah generic one, you only need a lot of crit

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for uberroth the maxroll setup is probably mvp, with the anti stun helmet

warped helm
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according to my calc earlier im at 98.8% right now with no crit on anything but 2 idols

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and glove

south ledge
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but for rest of the content i'm fine with this setup

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seems decent then

warped helm
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wait a minute why is your vengeance restoring mana without hitting a target what am i missing

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and yeah looks solid af

south ledge
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time and faith passive doesn't require a target

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once I get a titanheart with t7 ES and vengenace mana on hit single dps will go up quite a bit

warped helm
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lmfao i never noticed

south ledge
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šŸ˜„

warped helm
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truesight wouldnt really fit this with how much multi i already have it would be quite a bit weaker than usual

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im at like 450% melee multi already with my mace

warped helm
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ima try the cadence hammer build, getting burnt out worrying about these dualwield melee setups, like its not bad its just not worth taking more damage for when a good legendary 2h these days can do even better than some dw setups

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double t6 li'raka's are ready

warped night
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DW excels when you really scale well off AS, or when there's two specific unique weapons that are both good for the build

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definitely a subset

warped helm
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yeah feels like the more i stick with this id end up with a vengeance mace, vengeance and iron blades again which meh already did that omegalul

warped night
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who says you need to use vengeance when using the vengeance mace šŸ˜‰

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there's also nest of nightmares + eye of reen for big crit multi

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or gavel + some really nice exalted sword

south ledge
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Since both judgement paladin and ES VK got nerfed I do wonder which is the best sentinel build to kill uberroth considering a mostly T7/T5 Setup, nothing too crazy.
I tend to give it to ES VK right now.

waxen nymph
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Warpath ?

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T8 channel goes really hard

warped night
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I did Uber with Rive last patch without any prior uberroth gear, but that was with the infinite leech from VC ravaging aura. You can probably make it work again though, just gotta be more careful. Rive VK is still my Uber slayer character

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Mobility is pretty clutch when fighting Uber, especially with melee, so ES locking you in place is kinda clunky

south ledge
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šŸ‘€

tame oasis
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Don’t click that lol

austere frost
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Ok I dont know why I replied that my badšŸ˜…

warped night
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no worries

austere frost
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Its either Warpath or erasing the best uber killers, Warpath with t8 is needed badly for the fight

topaz shell
warped helm
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i tried the fire shield throw setup but MA is just perma dead in higher damage/corruption areas

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so got really tired of that

peak zodiac
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ye mistia has done a lot of cooking w/ time rot they were one of the first people cooking the javelin one, overall i still think warpath is easiest now it's like 3 minute kill with single t7s and t8 channel cost

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plus you are stun immune and literally never stop moving

south ledge
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not sure if shadow beacon is better than the trident setup

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but will try that out

warped helm
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like my phys version i gotta stop channeling soon after i hit for 150-170k

uneven gorge
peak zodiac
warped helm
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this cadence hammer overkill setup doesnt feel as satisfying as i figured it would unfortunately