🔱┃sentinel

[silk wasp]

Cleric's hammer triggers on use

[tawny cedar]

oh, so does warpath not trigger it at all?

[silk wasp]

Once, when you press the button

[tawny cedar]

ah, okay

hmph, ah well, seemed like a fun idea

[opaque grotto]

Can someone help me out with my build? I'm following a guide and not sure if its good or not https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/MellowFresh/character/Marty

[umbral osprey]

there's a guide on maxroll is about judgment paladin here https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-paladin-guide

[turbid thicket]

I’m a new one hand and shield Paladin, what skills should I be Specializing? I’m debating on doing Holy Aura at the moment but have no idea what I’m doing

[muted elk]

Greetings.
Is warpath still good this season ?

I don't see many build guides for it on lastepochtools.

[umbral osprey]

warpath this season is sick man,here the build guide
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/echo-warpath-void-knight-guide

[muted elk]

time to relive my d2 WW barbarian memories 😄

[tawny cedar]

it's basically the same as last season is all, so there is not much enthusiasm to post new builds

[wicked turret]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/the-forgelord---forged-weapons-forge-guard
im using this guide as reference
what would my next best step for vengeance since im using the primordial shield instead of bastion of honor rn

🤔

i was thinking crit multiplier

but not sure either that or atk speed

[waxen nymph]

Better armor Shred or more AS

[wicked turret]

if in my main weapon im aiming for attack speed would taking As node be any good

🤔

[umbral osprey]

I think javelin is better with sierpin

[umbral osprey]

like this
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/c174p0ze#5

[wicked turret]

oh im just using it as a reference

im using an odachi

[wicked turret]

how do you get this kind of belt

[waxen nymph]

Bee on potion is a Exiled mage affix

[quaint sparrow]

Very

[muted elk]

when scaling Warpath, do I want
"+x% melee void damage"
or
"+x% void damage" ?

[waxen nymph]

"+x% melee void damage"
That doesnt exist
Its +x Melee Void Dmg
It seems you want +x Crit Chance then Attack Speed

[muted elk]

ah ye, I misread

[royal geode]

are there any good warpath paladin builds? im doing ignite warpath but am worried if it scales decently

[edgy niche]

hi all is any one can help me explain on FORGE GUARD build in what conditions can apply two-handed sword in one site and shield in other site??? is passives skill or only apply for FG build only?? thanks you all

[waxen nymph]

Forge Master Might passive

[edgy niche]

o.....

[umbral osprey]

this is a buid with odachi https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/forged-weapons-forge-guard-guide

[umbral osprey]

well to get that belt you need a champion's item first,and then make it to experimental one

[edgy niche]

thanks bro that one is last passive need a lot of point

[edgy niche]

is paladin or void got this skill??

[umbral osprey]

hey is there anyone try time rot VK,I just wonder why we use this ring instead of siphon

[waxen nymph]

Nope

[waxen nymph]

You already have a lot of leech

This is 10% More Dmg and 4% Less dmg taken

[umbral osprey]

oh I got it now,ty

[peak zodiac]

and the biggest reason to use siphon is doom which only benefits melee damage (of all types not just void)

[pearl geyser]

Hmmm maybe bleed gloves warpath with morditas

[umbral osprey]

I see,my time rot VK deals DoT and I did underestimated it 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[pearl geyser]

Can MA benefit from the bleed pop gloves?

[alpine canopy]

Yes, not the bleed pop proc but everything else

[warped helm]

yo! this made it so that smite only gains flat damage, no longer any 4% inc damage at all correct?

[uneven gorge]

correct

[warped helm]

and could indirect abilities (ex. smite triggers) be echoed at all or only direct stuff?

[uneven gorge]

only direct casts afaik

[waxen nymph]

Only Direct casts can echo

[warped helm]

thanks, selfcast void smite it is then

[waxen nymph]

Crit ?

Or Dot ?

@warped helm

[warped helm]

crit!

no timerotting

(other than to debuff for DR 😄 )

[alpine canopy]

Spell DOT is an option too, which I suspect Vlad may be more interested in

[waxen nymph]

You could play Fissure > Spell DoT

[wooden mountain]

DOT is decent with fissure & the sky beams from the tree

not that the skybeams are good, but they look cool

[waxen nymph]

👉 👈 😊

[waxen nymph]

They benefit from More Dmg from Smite

[warped helm]

yeah i figured even void fissure would be good too.... but i wanted something hitbased

[waxen nymph]

They are a subskill of Smite but hidden in the passive tree

[warped helm]

they what now, thats odd

[wooden mountain]

yeah but that's really just the 250% more right, everything else in smite is fissure specific or hit only

[warped helm]

just 250% more

[waxen nymph]

Yup but Devotion exist and Flat from Vitality too

[alpine canopy]

They also get the flat void per vit and from devotion, among other fun stuff

[wooden mountain]

huh forgot about devotion

[waxen nymph]

Also its just extra dmg for "free"

[wooden mountain]

yeah maybe I've underrated them

[alpine canopy]

The beams have pretty decent base stats, too

[warped helm]

yikes stacking vit AND devotion?!

[waxen nymph]

Void Fissure gets them
Lightning Fissure gets More Lightning DoT per Crit Multi
Fire Fissure gets the node for More Fire DoT to Spreading Flamed Enemies and FireStarter

[waxen nymph]

Devotion is so much flat

Its not even funny ^^

I am playing smite rn and it gives me 220 Flat

[warped helm]

yeah selfcast its definitely more juicy than if i triggered smites

cause then i wouldnt even get castspeed either

[waxen nymph]

Devotion is "only" 50% Cast Speed

Nothing stops you from getting MOAR

[warped helm]

my devotion could be the worst roll in history which is nice i guess

[wooden mountain]

you can still go negative mana with smite can't you? I know they said they fixed that but I saw a recent clip of someone doing it

do the devotion rolls matter if you're not lightning?

can't remember what it has other than lightning pen and the flat/cast speed

[waxen nymph]

Is there smth to do with this ?

[waxen nymph]

Endurance, heal and res

[warped helm]

i was using it on fire shieldthrow, but man that build was annoying the derpy MA just always dies in higher content

[wooden mountain]

so endurance is the only thing that matters for void smite then

[warped helm]

yea and implicits i guess

simple enough

[waxen nymph]

You do get more Flat at negative mana, but how do you get Smites ?

[warped helm]

i dont see myself doing both manastack and vitality stack well together though so lets say i get 500 mana thats 100 flat, still nothing to scoff at i guess

[wooden mountain]

smite can cost 0 mana

though I think that one I saw was fire smite with a firestarter with +spell damage -spell cost rolled maybe

or maybe just foot of the mountain? can't remember

[alpine canopy]

Pretty sure you need mana to proc fissure though

[wooden mountain]

you do

but if you can reliably get a lot of negative mana somehow

then you don't want +mana at all

the cast speed would go insane if you were at -500/100

idk how to do -500 tho

the clip I saw was like -8k mana or something but idk how it's achieved

[alpine canopy]

Everything that gets you super negative gets patched out

[waxen nymph]

I dont want to fight lagon anymore, please

[warped helm]

offtopic but havent played a week or so, did that patch on the 10th fix the stash filtering lag/crash?

[wooden mountain]

farming stormcarved testament for storm totem is no bueno

at least you can use that harbinger woven echo

[uneven gorge]

Not really. It's playabale, but I can't bother with waiting 4 seconds every time I move an item

[warped helm]

i'm so confused they're not reverting the stash filtering changes they made until its fixed wth... oh well

[waxen nymph]

I am farming stormcarved for Lightning Smite

Oh the imprint proccs

https://tenor.com/view/orgasm-ah-ahh-yes-exactly-gif-14893721

[wooden mountain]

electrify/crit/spelldot?

I am ever lured by the temptation of electrify smite/healing hands prolif

[warped helm]

👀 palarus?

oh no, ive got no big inc damage rolls for palarus for void smite 🤔 hmmm

[waxen nymph]

Spell Crit Multi-Smite

[unborn cypress]

Can someone tell me what my next upgrade is to do more damage to Uberroth? https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Deafening/character/Immortal_iv

[warped helm]

also i might maybe rather a +2 amulet over devotion if im not going crazy on mana, since smite does have more than just 250% more damage (more vs ignite & blinded) i might need like 30 points to max out what i wanna do @waxen nymph

crit nodes are point heavy

[wooden mountain]

devotion will add more damage than the worst 2 skill points for self cast smite

100%

[molten horizon]

Has anyone messed with the idea of a bleed focused forge guard using carrion of creation, phantom grip, and serpents milk

or is bleed just too weak to build around

[warped helm]

that would be 20% more vs blinded i suppose and yeah you might be right, the big castspeed alone for selfcast is probably very worth

[turbid dome]

50 more Lagon fights for you

[waxen nymph]

Bleed FW ?

[waxen nymph]

Devotion is so much dmg, that planning Spell Smite and not using it is a mistake imo

[molten horizon]

yeah just getting monster bleed either using DW rainbow edges with more chance on hit for ailments, or tork's hunger for straight up bleed

[warped helm]

i mean i just figured id probably already have 150-200 flat already... which is still 50% more at 500 mana i guess.. yeah ok i see it

ok stash lag still bad as ever 🙄 here we go

[molten horizon]

with tork you can do shield as well and throw in flayers pride, but i dont know if that would apply its bonuses to forged weapons. Also not sure about the forged weapon generators, warpath seems to be the most consistent

[warped helm]

damn thats a nice fodder, but smite/vk has so much multi already i need some increases

[waxen nymph]

Or Morditas Reach for 500% Bleed

[molten horizon]

oo right that would be a big one too

think its worth trying or is bleed just too meh

[waxen nymph]

Imo, Bleed MA has some real potential

FW, I dont know

You will lack penetration and duration

[molten horizon]

MA?

[wooden mountain]

alchemist ladle has bleed+4 ailments that get converted to bleed

45% chance with max roll

probably morditas reach is best still

[waxen nymph]

Manifest Armor

[molten horizon]

ahh

[waxen nymph]

Because it can "use" your armor, helmet and boots at higher value

So smth like this x2.6

164% Duration and 177% Pen

Giga bleed

And you help Bob with Shield throw so it can attack real fast

[molten horizon]

that could get particularly nuts if the armor can be enhanced enough

[warped helm]

i got 2 3lp's atm ready to go, fishing some swords out of the stash atm

[proper kelp]

impulse bought the only one on market

[unborn cypress]

Is Spirit if Xylem the meta for Judgment Pally or is it still Transcribers Graver?

[warped helm]

im still not sure about devotion though mainly because of how much vitality spell damage i will get i gotta be honest, like i wouldnt even trade my idols for mana, i get spelldmg affixes on helm and chest, i need inc void damage, where am i gonna get a meaningful amount of mana from 🤔 @waxen nymph

[waxen nymph]

I believe so

[proper kelp]

are you smite VK? I can give you my planner if you want

and no, mana is not worth for void smite

[warped helm]

i'm planning one yes @proper kelp sure i can take a look for ideas and inspiration

[molten horizon]

before even being able to use the carrion/milk combo I could stack up to ~850 stacks on ST pretty quick once the weapons forged out, but that was with torks and basic gear

[proper kelp]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZzgNkYB this is almost my current character minus the LP4 ladle, chest and smite 4 nihilis

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (73) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,162, Regen: 144/s
▸ Mana: 163.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 34 Str / 19 Dex / 20 Int / 19 Att / 109 Vit
▸ Resistances: 95% / 65% / 95% / 114% / 108% / 132% / 132%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 782
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 54% (3,576)
▸ Block Chance: 97%, Mitigation: 56% (2,651)

Used skills:

Multistrike / Symbols of Hope / Anomaly / Smite / Devouring Orb

[proper kelp]

aspirational if you will

[waxen nymph]

Ah but you Multi Smite

Ginnie is going self cast

[proper kelp]

then just switch melee attack speed for cast speed on gloves its almost the same

use blood mage or rav voids instead

and different boots

[waxen nymph]

Are you crit capped with Smite ?

[proper kelp]

yeah

i have a bit over 60% spell crit as a baseline, then 150% more increased from anomaly and a few levels in smite base crit

but i run lunge instead of anomaly for faster mapping, switch to anomaly for bosses and beasts

[warped helm]

uhh i forgot about the 3set bonus, thats what youre going for right, not the timerot stuff?

[waxen nymph]

From this planner I count 85.51%

[proper kelp]

with average rolls or good rolls

i have 15 crit chance as a base and another 4 from 2 points in smite base crit

if you dont have a well rolled shattered worlds you can just move points into base crit

[waxen nymph]

Nihihlis ?Arent you using a Exalted Set Amulet ?

[proper kelp]

3% more void damage per stack of time rot is a 36% global mroe dmg multi

[proper kelp]

mistake mb, meant worlds

different uberroth item

also if you're self cast, switch vise for blood mage for even more base crit

since you wont need atk speed

[waxen nymph]

https://youtu.be/2y2kNSL55nU
@alpine canopy
One day maybe lagon can play ^^

[proper kelp]

i can make a self cast planner one sec

[umbral osprey]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/8n3y90zg#2
this is a time rot build

[warped helm]

nah all good i'll figure it out just making some gear decisions over here

[molten horizon]

I had played with a ravaging aura/void smite build from scratch at the start of the season, ended up looking like this https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXOEPKEB

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (77) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,473, Regen: 40.6/s
▸ Mana: 287.57, Regen: 9.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 23 Dex / 23 Int / 28 Att / 67 Vit
▸ Resistances: 136% / 76% / 76% / 83% / 99% / 110% / 110%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 101%, Threshold: 1,325
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (92)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 64% (5,082)

Used skills:

Void Cleave / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes / Smite / Devouring Orb

[warped helm]

i'm most definitely gonna dualwield for palarus so the set is probably out of the question , dw will be a lot of extra damage already

[proper kelp]

im not gonna lie twin

ur single target dps is probably like 1/10th of a multismite setup

if you want to self cast i strongly reccomend going mana smite instead, you get way more base spell dmg to compensate for lack of more dmg multis

[warped helm]

multistrike smite is the one i never tried, how many are you getting per second roughly, avg?

[proper kelp]

with max stacks of armament i get 4 smites per attack and 6 on echoes

[waxen nymph]

?? On a DoT build ?

[proper kelp]

so 40% chance to echo and be 10 total smites, and 60 to not echo and be 4

averaging to 6.4 smites per atk

[molten horizon]

could be an import from before I moved points around lol

[proper kelp]

im also way, way tankier than a dual wield setup because i have 100% block, less dmg taken on block, 55% block effectiveness, less void dmg taken on block, etc

you could get even more dps by dropping shield for a sword with atk speed and spell dmg

but i like being durable

if you want to self cast i suggest using palarus for mapping and switching to ladle+something else for bossing

[warped helm]

yeah no shit to that, but i'm prolly gonna mess with selfcast first but i'll keep multistrike in mind since i havent tried that version yet and im not trying to farm uber with that

that dualwield wont be tanky

[proper kelp]

if you're gonna dw palarus i would just go paladin

tbh

paladin can also use aurelis multistrike for dps

[warped helm]

tbh palarus was mostly about clearing with selfcast if ur not fissure based

[proper kelp]

well lightning smite also gets the bolts

which give more aoe

[warped helm]

or spamming like a throw/trigger build

[proper kelp]

i find my clear to be more than satisfactoy

sheer volume of smites + devouring orb wipes out packs of squishies

[molten horizon]

lightning smite warpath with culnivars + palarus last season was pretty fun but I stalled around 750c iirc

[warped helm]

wait but i thought indirect casts dont echo, or is the echo part for multi the extra swords instead that makes it good? @proper kelp

[proper kelp]

the echoed multistrike not only procs smite, but procs more smites than the original

the smites themselves do not echo

[warped helm]

i see

[molten horizon]

yeah the MS will echo but not the procced smites

god if you could echo procced smites...

[proper kelp]

so its 4+6 if you echo

[molten horizon]

just think of the power

[proper kelp]

10 smites per attack feels so crazy man

[warped helm]

yeah cool interaction, i still wanna do my thing over here 😄 thanks for the ideas though

[proper kelp]

no worries

[warped helm]

if it fails miserably i might reconsider

[proper kelp]

self cast is totally viable

but mana stacker might be stronger for that setup

[turbid dome]

Love me some self cast smite on vk

[warped helm]

not fails, more like doesnt satisfy me

[proper kelp]

also because devotion gives up to 50% cast speed for smite

you definitely want devotion for selfcast

[waxen nymph]

And also more single target somehow

[proper kelp]

do the bolts hit the same target?

what

[waxen nymph]

They do

[proper kelp]

ive never played smite pally

thats disgusting

wait like all 6 of them

[turbid dome]

[proper kelp]

or just one

[waxen nymph]

Hard to say

[proper kelp]

huh

[waxen nymph]

But if you play electrify there is a 100-200 stack difference

[proper kelp]

i read it as "this number of individual enemies"

its probably just 1

but thats still really strong for ailments

[waxen nymph]

https://youtu.be/dl1Ur0hs0NI?si=oyfDngs9yF4-Z7KV&t=210

Time stamped

[proper kelp]

if i was gonna run electrify i would go jav for sure

[waxen nymph]

I am showing the "bug" of the extra bolts

[proper kelp]

yeah

[warped helm]

i guess desired sword prefixes would be flat to spells + crit or flat to spells + void damage%, really should have sufficient multi from vk/gear

[unborn cypress]

Is Judgment Paladin supposed to spec a lot into attunement? I think im using the wrong version and all the builds i look up on YouTube are variations of the maxroll build.

[turbid dome]

its great for concencrated ground judgement cause

• Consecrate Ground gains 1 spell damage per 5% increased healing effectiveness.

and each attunement gives 4% healing effectiveness for judgement from attribute scaling

unless I'm dumb that the attunement scaling one doesn't affect it for some reason

and flat spell damage is very very good

[unborn cypress]

Do you know of a planner i can look at for this? I think im going to have to do major changes to my build

[turbid dome]

are the maxroll planners not using the judgement aura node?

but off the top of my head no idea for a planner for that

[unborn cypress]

No it does not. The only aura build i found was one LE Tools but it used lots of rares rather than exalts so I thought it wasn't the best version of it.

Is it worthwhile to completely re-gear into Reflect Paladin?

[turbid dome]

if its only showing rares thats probs just the rough gear plan for early monos/entering empowered

[turbid dome]

if you want to play reflect paladin, yea

[unborn cypress]

I only want to play it if its significantly better. 😆

[turbid dome]

I've played neither so can't really answer that one

@waxen nymph I summon thee

[silk wasp]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B4Yp95Lo This was the s2 planner for mono farming aura judgement. Idk if there's an updated version for s3. I never saved a planner for spam judgement cause it was boring

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (30) / Paladin (63)

General:

▸ Health: 3,026, Regen: 114.45/s
▸ Mana: 1,785.89, Regen: 31.49/s
▸ Ward Retention: 94%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 22 Dex / 47 Int / 180 Att / 32 Vit
▸ Resistances: 262% / 134% / 207% / 97% / 108% / 121% / 107%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 1,062
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (105)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (7,631)
▸ Block Chance: 89%, Mitigation: 52% (2,203)

Used skills:

Healing Hands / Judgement / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Javelin

[warped helm]

sigh, tfw when you get the same rare weaver idol prophecy twice in one reroll

[unborn cypress]

Thanks. Was hoping to find one for S3

[warped helm]

gonna grab more humble weaver's and havoc runes, once the 3lp palarus is done im just gonna level 👀

[waxen nymph]

Reflect is crack broken op

On top of not being active at all

Like you walk and thats it

[silk wasp]

I will be shocked if Thicket doesn't get hit in s4

[molten horizon]

I wanna see a big pp shield throw build using thicket and sigeons

[proper kelp]

I was looking at sigeons+primal cadence

[waxen nymph]

Imo Nest is vastly superior for ST

Or are we doing some meme reflect shenanigans?

[proper kelp]

I was thinking cadence for mapping and nest for bossing

switch cadence for firestarters torch for bosses

[waxen nymph]

But ST Clear is fine no ?

[proper kelp]

could always be better

[waxen nymph]

Like it bounce a lot and clear pretty good

Sure

[proper kelp]

its not just clear, its effectively more dmg vs enemies that have other mobs around them

if you 80% overkill a pack of spiders on a rare you can oneshot it

rn im working on bleed phalanx tho

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oy9zgP9o

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (53) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,011, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 196.51, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 20 Dex / 20 Int / 19 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 76% / 86% / 156% / 66% / 66% / 66%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 666
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (109)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 57% (3,970)
▸ Block Chance: 68%, Mitigation: 58% (2,800)

Used skills:

Vengeance / Javelin / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes / Healing Hands

[proper kelp]

this is what i got so far

[waxen nymph]

No Siege Barrage ?

[proper kelp]

is that what you usually take

i wasnt sure

[waxen nymph]

What is your recovery ?

HH ?

[proper kelp]

i was gonna try to fit in leech, plus healing hands and 10% missing health on vengeance

but probably gonna switch to the relic that gives bleed leech

[waxen nymph]

I love Valdyr Chalice

Not playing on a bleed build is really dangerous imo

[proper kelp]

i threw this together in like 10 mins after i bought an lp4 phalanx

lol

yeah chalice is probably worth

i want to see how far i can go with it

smite vk still has a lot of upgrades to go but its already struggling to stay alive at 800ish corruption

still need a null portent for 20% dr, helmet for armor applies to dots

dot dmg is deadly man

Im guessing multismite vk tops out at 1500 corruption even with BIS gear, after that you would need to be proccing smite at range so you dont get hit

and thats just normal echoes, the rift beasts become unbeatable way sooner

so yeah im gonna check out bleed vengeance

dude i got this for 3.5 mil it seems kinda crazy cheap to me

[silk wasp]

Nobody plays Phalanx so I'm not surprised

[proper kelp]

yeah

normally phalanx sucks vs bosses which is why im trying bleed vengeance

to see if it can get reasonable single target dps

for mapping it feels amazing

but yeah perfect more dmg roll and 4 lp

this is why i love playing MG and building off meta

this would take forever to farm COF

[warped helm]

alright alright

the multi ex ones didnt survive

[proper kelp]

perfect smite roll

nice

[proper kelp]

does siege barrage have better clear than line jav or is it mainly for single target

would you say

idk how good the AOE is and where it targets on phalanx

[turbid dome]

honestly good question on the aiming

if its a big enough pack thats not gonna matter, tho I'd guess its just gonna pick an enemy and shoot there

[proper kelp]

yeah i guess siege barrage is probably worth i just like the idea of offscreening stuff

it doesnt matter at all for single target since you will barely riposte bosses

[silk wasp]

I think it targets whatever triggered the riposte. I vaguely remember getting barrages off in the distance when I played with it before

[turbid dome]

Huh

That’s nice

[warped night]

I tried bleed phalanx last season and the damage was awful when jav wasn't proccing

[molten horizon]

If anyone else ended up being curious about this, this ended up stacking up ~2600 bleeds on a dummy but the overall damage was just...eh. The manifested armor with no other changes right now is keeping 120-150 stacks up on its own and without me doing anything to it its ticking for 200k tho. This is the ghetto stuff i threw together for it: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApXmbXRA

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 85

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (15) / Forge Guard (48) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,648, Regen: 60.94/s
▸ Mana: 222.4, Regen: 10.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 52%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 46 Str / 13 Dex / 26 Int / 17 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 143% / 103% / 84% / 145% / 106% / 89% / 141%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 760
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (60)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 41% (2,118)
▸ Block Chance: 26%, Mitigation: 30% (565)

Used skills:

Ring Of Shields / Forge Strike / Warpath / Symbols of Hope / Manifest Armor

[molten horizon]

and then with all the stacks from forged weapons and stuff the bleed ended up only ticking for ~500k, so I think @waxen nymph was right in thinking that a MA focused build would likely be a better call

[gilded gale]

Does spell leech apply to Dots? Like Smite Fissure?

[molten horizon]

Yarp

As long as it's tagged as a spell

[gilded gale]

Spell Damage, Damage over time and the additional spell damage you get from Attunement are all in the same "bucket" correct? None of them are multiplicative?

[molten horizon]

Added is different from increased, I think the formula is on a wiki somewhere

[alpine canopy]

All "increased" is one bucket, all "added/flat" is another, and all "increased damage taken" debuffs are a bucket

[turbid dome]

this is the formula (see attached picture)

anything that says "x% increased <tag here> damage" (like 50% increased physical damage) goes into the increased damage bucket (look at your skills tags to see what affects it)

added/additional spell damage (like from wands or some passive nodes) is flat damage and is added to your spells base damage before any increased or more multipliers are added

Do note that "added spell damage" will convert to your skills damage type, if your thing says like " added lightning spell damage" then it will add that much flat lightning damage and not convert to your skills damage type

[wicked turret]

Oh wow thanks

I never considered maxroll since so little use fg

Tho i got a question the build i referenced had a lot of survivability skill as of that build i think has less

Would it be aight

[silk wasp]

I don’t even know where to begin with this.

[wicked turret]

Bad?

Also i really need an insight on
Can bastion of honor be changed for the new primalist shield

[pale bramble]

@waxen nymph First aberoth try, I died at 20% 😭

Ty for the tips!

[waxen nymph]

Gg!

[waxen nymph]

What are you playing?
I forgot

[waxen nymph]

Maybe I missed smth but it looks pretty good to me

[waxen nymph]

Primalist Shield?

[silk wasp]

Flawed

I'm guessing they mean Cerata

[waxen nymph]

I am curious to hear what you don't like in there

[pale bramble]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6aydRjo

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 96

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (22) / Void Knight (67) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,623, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 251.26, Regen: 11.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 7 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 67% / 75% / 85% / 128% / 54% / 93%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 80%, Threshold: 904
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,779)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 79%

Used skills:

Vengeance / Healing Hands / Erasing Strike / Abyssal Echoes / Symbols of Hope

[pale bramble]

I need to boost health and a bit of damage but its doing great

I'm gonna work on lp, and i need to slam a clean ailments on the belt^^

@waxen nymph

[silk wasp]

Shred on weapon makes no sense, 4/5 Hammer and Anvil hits the shred softcap. Overinflated value placed on Armor. No Pale Ox or Shield heavily damages survivability in high corruption. Low Healing Effectiveness and lack of Ward nodes means HH isn't contributing meaningfully to sustain/durability. 3/5 Walls is leaving raw DR on the table when the build is already made of paper. Spending points in VK for leech with leech on gloves and Logi is a waste of points.

The main right thing they did was slam leech on gloves. That and Sunforged helm covers sustain for you and FWs entirely, obviating the need for HH at all unless you're stacking ward. The cute cloud voyager tech really only works if your minions aren't constantly leeching themselves back to full.

It's good for RoS builds since they take hits and don't leech

But they're not using RoS and shieldcrafter procs are somewhat inconsistent

Especially with no shield

[silk wasp]

Also unrelated to the build maxroll's website blows hot ass

[wooden mountain]

Shrapnel existing kills any desire to play forged weapons for me

ofc you have to take the 1 point 50% more multiplier and suffer the -75% reduced duration

[wicked turret]

this was one of my corncern too 🤔 also what is the softcap for shred think i over on shred

[wicked turret]

yah cerata

[silk wasp]

You can see the effect of shred on Tunk's site here https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor

The first 60 or so stacks are enormously powerful, the next 60 are pretty strong, and then it falls off a cliff in value

[waxen nymph]

Oo

[waxen nymph]

Wait a minute, Necrotic Void Cleave ????

[silk wasp]

How do mismatched elements work with Increased Element Damage%? Like if you had that affix and attacked with Void Cleave which has the Void tag, would Increased Void Damage only affect the portion of the attack that actually does Void damage? Would Increased Necrotic affect the damage at all if the skill doesn't have the Necrotic tag?

[waxen nymph]

Each %Inc Dmg would only affect the corresponding type

[silk wasp]

So the tags don't matter for that

[turbid dome]

So let’s say we have a melee attack that does physical and fire damage

%increased melee damage affects both the fire and physical portions

%increased fire damage only affects the fire damage

%increased physical damage only affects the physical portion

So you could end up with 50 phys * (100% increased melee + 100% increased phys)

And 20 fire * (100% increased melee + 50% increased fire damage)

Per hit

For void cleave since it’s void tagged, all of your generic melee damage becomes void damage (if a skill has two tags like say fire and void, then your generic damage is split 50/50 between the two tags)

However stuff like added melee physical damage on your weapons affixes will not convert into void

[silk wasp]

That's how I kinda figured it worked but I never tested it. Thanks

I always knew SW and FS were getting screwed by being dual typed.

[umbral osprey]

well I haven't tried this build,just find it on the page 😅 😅😅😅

[turbid dome]

At least for void cleave you can full convert it to fire

[warped helm]

lmao oops

time to make a buckle

[silk wasp]

If you take Spiked Bombardment with Battle Standard do you still get the 2 additional javelins?

[quick vessel]

What is the best 0 mana cost skill (dunno if there is a better term) to summon Forged weapons (the skill itself only needs to be 0 mana, but effects can then use mana after using the skill)

Currently trying out Vengeance, but Rive looks better and MultiStrike has its own benefits (as well as combos with Forged Strike so thats 1 less button I need to remember to use in battle)

On a Forge Guard build in case its not obvious

[silk wasp]

Rive does the most damage but sucks at summoning FWs. Vengeance has strong defensive properties but has poor damage, MS summons weapons the fastest but is mid at everything else.

MS has the benefit of gaining the minion tag with one of the nodes so it has more skill points

[quick vessel]

With MS is the node to automatically use Forge Strike worthwhile?

[silk wasp]

Not really

The juice with MS is the bottom left that exchanges stacks for weapons

[quick vessel]

Is it worth going for MS and also the spin to win skill (I cannot recall the name)

[silk wasp]

Warpath you really need to commit to

[alpine canopy]

MS is the best at summoning weapons, but it means you have to use forge strike every few attacks

So for a pue FW build I'd just use vengeance, summons well enough, easier to use, and gives big tankiness

[quick vessel]

I was thinking of (like I read up on) Vengeance in the end game and maybe either MS or Rive to get there as Vengeance feels glacially slow to kill anything

[silk wasp]

Rive is plenty good for leveling

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, vengeance takes investment to get all its FW summoning stuff going, and early game player damage will be contributing more so MS is strong

[quick vessel]

Is the Unique Legendary 1 handed mace to boost Vengeance skill level worth using in that case?
As I didn't see the need for lots of extra points in Vengeance to help out a minion build (however first time really going for the Forge Guard)

[silk wasp]

No

[quick vessel]

Thanks for the help on the build

[alpine canopy]

The investment mentioned earlier for vengeance is primarily the attunement needed to hit 100% iron blade chance

You'll want to get a good amount of attunement regardless, since it's the scaling attribute for FWs

[warped helm]

big shame the envy forge potential ran out on such a shit base (split it at 1 or 2 potential left)

[quick vessel]

wait it can go to 100?
I saw that nodde say it maxes at like 80% and I thought thats combined with other ways of generation

[waxen nymph]

No

[silk wasp]

RIP

Can't have nice things

[warped helm]

@waxen nymph you asked about void fissure, would you be able to play that with timerot at all? you cant right? smite no longer hits?

oh wait it still does hit just spawns a fissure

uhh

[waxen nymph]

Smite itself still hit

[silk wasp]

Yes, it's a base 20% iron blade chance plus an additional 80% if you have 40 att and 2 points in the node

[waxen nymph]

You get a fissure on top

[warped helm]

so would you still include time rot, or too difficult to scale both well?

stacking mana/vitality/void dot seems like a lot already

[waxen nymph]

I would not

TR need TR chance, slow chance, and attack /Cast speed to shine

[warped helm]

ya that was my thought, my old timerot guy stacked all of that quite extensively

[waxen nymph]

That a'lot of stuff to add to Spell DoT void, vitality maybe mana

[warped helm]

maybe 1 doom ring ontop for good measure

[waxen nymph]

Still haven't played a TR build

[quick vessel]

I thought I saw on the node that Fissure changes with the Void conversion node

[waxen nymph]

It does yeah

[waxen nymph]

Not sure what skill I want to use for it

[quick vessel]

Also just checking is there a way to make Forged Weapons into Void minions or is Forge Master the only realistic option for a Sentinel Minions build?

[alpine canopy]

No, they can't be converted

FG is the only realistic option anyway since you can't spec forge strike otherwise

[warped helm]

i did chain hammer, i believe very large packs were problematic sometimes until timerot spread on kill (for multiplicative reasons)

think i will swap to void fissure, not too happy with palarus performance and dualwield (not) tankyness

[waxen nymph]

I love Void Fissure

That was my starter in 1.1 or 1.2, can't remember

I don't think I would build it the same way though

[warped helm]

i have ideas but a problem i see right now, how do you spam away your mana these days

i dont want it to be uncomfortable playing with devotion

[quick vessel]

Oh it doesn't work via the MS node if its not unlocked?
I don't recall the node on the MS tree saying that the skill needed to be unlocked, but maybe I missed it

[alpine canopy]

It still works, but the FW nodes in forge strike are basically mandatory

The FWs will probably be fine super early campaign without speccing FS, but later on you must spec it to scale them decently

[warped helm]

@waxen nymph i got a 2lp aberroth's ready, t7 spell or t7 mana/ward what do you reckon?

i guess dot gets a fair bit more inc %damage than hitbased

[waxen nymph]

Devotion or not ?

[waxen nymph]

Abyssal Echo no cooldown

[warped helm]

i will swap to devotion

[waxen nymph]

Then probably mana

[warped helm]

how much does that cost? i was thinking ramping warpath maybe

[waxen nymph]

50 per cast
And also AE gives you 20% More Dmg against Blinded enemies and 24% Inc DoT Taken (another More Dmg)

[warped helm]

ohhh right, ok i like that

[silk wasp]

Paladin can be used for Manifest Armor builds but FWs is strictly a Forge Guard build

[warped helm]

wish me luck

[silk wasp]

Don't beef it

[warped helm]

omg

[waxen nymph]

POG !!!

[warped helm]

now its a shame i will never see a 3lp aberroth's maybe i even fail twice

well.. time to farm another

[alpine canopy]

It hurts

[polar spire]

wait you still had 12 potential and didnt bother rerolling the poison?

[waxen nymph]

Tell me you creation your sceptre and you are on your way to slam the second one ????

[wooden mountain]

you can't really play forged weapons as anything other than a forge guard but manifest armor can be played as VK or paladin

ofc you should probably be doing shield throw & manifest armor together, so that's a bit restrictive

[warped helm]

ya i split it

[warped helm]

why bother risking losing all potential instead of splitting? 4th mod is irrelevant

i meant farming another 2lp aberroth's 😂

[polar spire]

oh yea splitting thats true

[delicate hornet]

What exactly is riptose from the vengence skill? and how do it work?

[silk wasp]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/skills/riposte

[waxen nymph]

You click Vengeance and hit an enemy, there is a ball around you telling riposte is ready
When an enemy hit you, you trigger Riposte, its a melee hit

[delicate hornet]

ohh, thanks

[silk wasp]

I've played like 150 hours of vengeance and I never noticed that ball before

Zero awareness

Anyone know if the armor stolen from ST's Vampiric Steel stacks if you hit the same target multiple times?

[warped helm]

yes

[silk wasp]

Neat

[silk wasp]

Thank you for not whiffing 🙏

[gilded gale]

Question about Mad alchemist ladle. The more Spell damage per negative ailment on the target... does that affect just spell damage or does it also affect dot damage in this case? I.e. will it only give me 48% of the 842, or will it also affect my DOT damage (48% of 2429)?

I'm using fissure smite, so I'm curious if it's worht switching to, given my huge investment into DoT damage

[alpine canopy]

It applies to all spell damage, doesn't matter if it's hit or DOT. Just to be clear, it's not a multiplier of those % increased damage values, it's a multiplier of your final total damage

LE Tools doesn't have a spell DOT column, so the actual % inc you have on fissure might not be either of those numbers

(e.g., if you have the stat "increased spell damage", that will show up in the spell column, but not the DOT column - you'd need to add all the spell-only stats from the spell column to the DOT column's number to see the increase that fissure has in that case)

[umbral osprey]

guys is there any build using this one?

[gilded gale]

Wow. So it's likely a pretty big jump in damage if I can get a good one. Thank you for your help.

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, for spells like smite if you're doing void and/or devotion to get a ton of flat spell damage, very much so

[alpine canopy]

You can build around it and it's viable, no clue if there's guide on it though. I think it's a pretty fun one.

[tawny cedar]

if you are already able to quickly build 12 time rot stacks, is there any point to more chance to time rot? or is 12 the max and that's it

[alpine canopy]

If you're a time rot build, once you get rot grip then yes you still want more chance since it scales damage. Otherwise if you're just using it to satisfy some "per stack of time rot" effect then no, that's it.

[tawny cedar]

okay, so more chance to proc still means more damage even if you cant stack the dot further?

[alpine canopy]

Yes, at least for global time rot chance. Rot grip doesn't count time rot chance in skill specs.

[warped helm]

if not specifically cleave/ravaging aura, its a very good void dot stick with 2lp potentially (reasonable rarity)

guys what would be the single best place to farm a certain champion modifier (carnage/amulet spell damage)? i already run most of my super arenas, twinned champions, all of that

[wicked turret]

where is the optimal place to farm odachi

i feel like my luck suck

[pale bramble]

You can imprit one in weaver tree and it will drop on champion, caches...

[wicked turret]

funnily enough i tried lmao

and my luck is just terrible

i mean i get some but none i need

[warped helm]

@waxen nymph game: oh youre going fissure? go lightning

was wondering why my fissure feels weak, its not getting converted to void... most of my dot damage is the beam right now

[wooden mountain]

fissure isn't void??

[warped helm]

read the fissure tooltip, it can be converted

but its not getting converted for me for some reason

[wooden mountain]

F8

[warped helm]

yeah reported it

tried unspeccing the conversion etc , its only visually being converted to void, the tooltip stays on fire and attunement scaling

man thats a bummer

and one fissure only dealing like 4-5k damage with my stats would be impossible to only be a tooltip bug

[waxen nymph]

What!!!!

How did they break it

It was working fine before 😭😭

[wooden mountain]

against the odds they always find a way

Ravaging Aura in void cleave doesn't have any attribute scaling???

[warped helm]

and i always find a way to find the not(anymore) working bugged interactions 😔

standalone dev orb is not too viable these days is it?

[wooden mountain]

does it just inherit the 4% increased per str/vit from void cleave or does it really just not scale?

[waxen nymph]

Subskill of Void Cleave > inherit attribute scaling from VC

[warped helm]

ok theres the tiniest difference when respeccing the void conversion node on a dummy so i think it ONLY converts the 20 base smite fire damage maybe, really weird...

[wooden mountain]

the attribute shift comes from renouncement rather than the conversion on tree

but you have that because you said you were getting the beams

idk

[warped helm]

yeah anyway something clearly broke, time to find a respec 😐

[wooden mountain]

can VK echo smite if it isn't void smite?

[waxen nymph]

No, echoes are for melee and Void spells only

[warped helm]

funny enough my void beam cleared most low corruption stuff but that alone only goes so far

[wooden mountain]

how long do those void beams last?

[warped helm]

every time there was no beam the bamage was down in the dumps

not sure actually, 4 or 5 seconds

[wooden mountain]

I just looked erasing strike skill tree says 3 and I can't see it listed anywhere else

[warped helm]

even epochtools doesnt know, interesting lol

300% effectiveness/second so yeah maybe its 3 seconds

[wooden mountain]

based tunklabs

[waxen nymph]

I need to check tunklabs more for durations

He has them listed

Where Letools does not

[warped helm]

yeah wonder why

[wooden mountain]

nice that you get 4% increased per str too

I find you get a fair bit of incidental str

[waxen nymph]

It depends where they come from

Attribute scaling for subskill is inherited from the parent skill

If its ES, yes
If its Smite, no

[wooden mountain]

oh okay

so for smite you only get +1 flat per vit too rather than +2?

Ripperinos

[waxen nymph]

But you also get Flat from Devotion for exemple

[wooden mountain]

you can yeah

but +2 flat per vit is such a sweet line of text

[waxen nymph]

It is indeed

[wooden mountain]

especially with VK getting more health per vit too

[warped night]

it's beyond disappointing that they manage to keep reintroducing the same bugs they've already "fixed"

[warped helm]

definitely disappointing

might be time to use my 3lp apathy maw, hit the good result atleast

shred wouldve been nice but still pretty crazy

[umbral osprey]

this would go well with rive void build

[warped helm]

or that

[wooden mountain]

voidgence

voidgence and void cleave

idk

[warped helm]

huh?

oh vengeance

[warped helm]

standalone devouring orb is probably rough these days right?

[peak zodiac]

nah DO is probably the best time rot applier rn

[warped helm]

oh really? anyway i meant hit based, but interesting, didnt think DO had many multipliers for ailments i gotta count

[peak zodiac]

hit should still be really good all consuming node is crazy it’s just weird to use lol

[turbid dome]

nothings ever gonna be like time rot jav sillyness from last cycle

I do have fun with timebomb dorb

[glossy pine]

is tar a way to build support sentinel for party like givng dmg buff whit javelin and auras and sigel

[peak zodiac]

if you want support for party play look up snap on YT, his group did a party runs to to uber the last couple seasons with 2 paladins as pure support

[glossy pine]

THX ALOOTT

[warped helm]

so you mean even for applying timerot thats with the orb consumption? seems really weird to play that one

[peak zodiac]

ye it’s 100% more and 6% less there’s a weird curve with how many you wanna consume for the most damage i think it’s 8?

[warped helm]

i dont even understand how you get 8 out to do that

[peak zodiac]

you spread them out and then use a skill to teleport them all together, usually volatile reversal but ig erasing strike with shadow beacon would technically work

[warped helm]

that sounds so clunky, but also duration and cooldown wise getting 8 up is what im struggling with

do people run this then? or just stack a lot of CDR elsewhere

[peak zodiac]

i think mostly just what you get from passives but i’m not 100% sure

i think maxroll has a build guide iirc

[alpine canopy]

Need to use VR non-traversal with the dorb duration extender

[peak zodiac]

it doesn’t necessarily have to be non-traversal does it?

[alpine canopy]

Oh yeah, and use the guaranteed echo granted by VR for dorb

[alpine canopy]

It does need a short enough cooldown by some means

Don't know for sure if it's possible without taking the non-traversal node

[gilded venture]

should i plat the lotto today?

[turbid dome]

Hit the slam first then go to the lotto

[warped helm]

damn, i felt like going back to revisit pally hammer smite bleed with the new gloves but sure aint what it used to be

1600 stacks with just enough damage for 250 corruption right now, still need to lp my neck and gloves though

and probably need to change to t7 bleed pen mods instead of more chance

[warped night]

I like multistrike bleed pally these days

[warped helm]

i love that multistrike got a good singletarget toolkit now, already liked clearing with it before

[alpine canopy]

Multistrike is so neat now yeah

[warped night]

yeah, it's really great at applying holy eruptions

[warped helm]

small problem with my setup is 8 missing block and phys shred, same blessing/timeline

not sure i could sustain forgeguard physshred

[warped night]

don't need block chance if you don't use a shield 😏

[warped helm]

my stick would go well with multistrike too if i feel like trying i guess 😏

[warped night]

symbol of demise is fun too

[warped helm]

wait youre not using flamebursts for more stacks on that multistrike bleed guy? or is that a different build

[warped night]

I am

tbh I'm probably better off dropping the demise gimmick at this point

just do dw with palarus and spec smite

[warped helm]

so flameburst is to multistrike what smite is to hammers huh, 200% multiplier on it not bad

[turbid dome]

[warped night]

got it on attempt #6. nice upgrade for my rive vk

[forest kelp]

Dual wielding Rive?

[warped night]

sword catcher

just hit this too

[forest kelp]

Still hard mapping?

[hidden rapids]

hey guys, i'm at 95 on my paladin, multistrike/smite build, which afix should i work on putting t8?

[warped night]

are you asking if the build has difficulties mapping, or if I'm hard grinding out echoes?

[warped night]

potentially none. might be better off using immortal stone ammy

[hidden rapids]

wait, better than devotion on this specific build?

[warped night]

maybe not. you're doing crit, not electrify?

[hidden rapids]

yeah, even running a t6 crit mult on my palarus (waiting to find a t7)

[warped night]

hmm kinda hard to say. idk if there's any super impactful t8s for that build

[forest kelp]

About clear echo high coruption

[warped night]

nothing crazy. Like 1k - 1500

[warped night]

now that I think about it, you probably want to go t8 for one of the mana prefixes on helmet

[hidden rapids]

oh ok, looks good, that ammy looks kinda rare

[warped night]

you'll get one eventually, but since you're doing crit smit you won't want to get rid of devotion

and since you're using devotion you want to mana stack a bit

[hidden rapids]

any tip on body/gloves?

[warped night]

for body either null portent, or if you take the nodes in multistrike that can summon forged weapons then you can use mantle of the pale ox

and for gloves either grasp of the blood mage if you're not capping crit on smite, or something with as much attack speed as you can get like falcon fists or immortal vise

[hidden rapids]

ok, tysm

[warped night]

np

[hidden rapids]

if someone knows a build that i can see more and follow, it's my first char on this game so i'm kinda lost

some places tell me to dual wield swords, others i found was palarus + bastion

[warped night]

the former is the damage option, the latter is a tankier option. both work

in this game there's not a ton of "objectively right" choices, and most things work with varying combos, so you're encouraged to experiment with a setup that fits your playstyle

aurelis + palarus is going to be the weapon combo that gives you the most damage, but you'll be squishier

anyways, I'm off to bed

[hidden rapids]

ok, ty again

gn

[warped night]

if no one answers your Qs you can ping me with stuff and I'll respond tomorrow

[waxen nymph]

I use null portent
Static shell can be good too, less defense but more dmg

Gloves I run Grasp with t7 AS

Boots Army of Skin with t7 MS

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BrKrD1Oo

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (10) / Paladin (68)

General:

▸ Health: 2,922, Regen: 87.91/s
▸ Mana: 1,191.35, Regen: 8.72/s
▸ Ward Retention: 9%, Regen: 6/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 3 Dex / 2 Int / 30 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 127% / 130% / 185% / 135% / 79% / 75% / 94%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 985
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (12)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 47% (2,757)
▸ Block Chance: 4%, Mitigation: 28% (566)

Used skills:

Multistrike / Abyssal Echoes / Holy Aura / Smite / Symbols of Hope

[waxen nymph]

That's my current setup

I am at around 10-12 millions dps

[pale bramble]

Why army of skin?

[wooden mountain]

good LP level, movespeed and attack speed on a slot that can't usually get it

army of skin is pretty amazing for any melee build that doesn't have a clearly better choice

like exile for bleed builds or foot of the mountain for some builds

any fire fissure/judgement aura builds out there? I can't see a clear way to scale the flat damage for both kinds of spell-DOT other than mana stacking/devotion

well, mana stacking doesn't scale the flat for judgement does it? it's just a more multi, still need to get flat from somewhere

healing effectiveness doesn't do anything for smite's damage

also devotion wants missing mana while judgement needs you to have a lot of mana to spend

[pale bramble]

ty

[waxen nymph]

Could go mixed mana and HE and play fire Fissure

[warped helm]

jeez, i can actually hit over 2000 bleed stacks but wheres the damage

1600% inc damage ish with 230% bleed duration too

[wooden mountain]

with what skill?

[warped helm]

hammers n smite

wanted to revive it with the new carrion glove but still meh

[wooden mountain]

how have you specialised hammers?

This is what I was doing with time rot hammers in 1.2, it's about a 6x multiplier to ailments

[warped helm]

i know i played this version with timerot before but that fits mostly for timerot

i think it would be much much worse for bleed when youre not capped to 12 stacks

[wooden mountain]

yeah the carrion explosion is not enough to carry the AOE

[warped helm]

yeah that

really unfortunate otherwise id consider

most lackluster thing about the glove

[wooden mountain]

with that hammer build you really get to see just how good rot ripples is

[warped helm]

i'll try to get t7 bleed pen instead on both chest and helm still but i dont think this would go too far

i'm gonna do some math for the chain hammer too maybe it could be better if it was more than doubling the output

since i do still apply a ton of stacks per hit

think it is more than double damage with 40% speed from ricochet extra projectiles too

ok need another lp valdyr to test this out i'll be back

[wooden mountain]

the layout of tombs really killed the orbiting hammers imo

them disappearing when they hit walls makes any tight corridor type layouts suck so damn much for the build

[warped helm]

that too but theyre not that relevant to clear unless u need some enchantments i guess

ok yeah chain with bleed is pretty bad even with the speed i barely get to 5-600 stacks now

down from 2k

probably from missing smite triggers as well

[wooden mountain]

have you considered javelin siege barrage instead?

fractal tree can get a lot of hits

[warped helm]

probably just as bad as chain hammer for clear

if the glove prolif was just better

but yeah i did consider

[warped helm]

oh you dont mean siege barrage but splits+fractal?

the splits hit singletarget?

[wooden mountain]

siege barrage still splits doesn't it?

like it hits from above then splits horizontally, no?

[warped helm]

ah i see what you mean combine both

[wooden mountain]

yeah siege barrage gets you multi hits on single target and splits make multi-target situations tolerable

[warped helm]

anyway then im no longer a shield build or paladin changing to the spear, i might try the multistrike stuff

[wooden mountain]

javelin DOT is only 3.82x multiplier tho

and -20% attack speed in there too

or 20% less attack speed

[warped helm]

yeah and the stand still pen is not very fun either for long periods of time

[wooden mountain]

can't recall

yeah

[warped helm]

also penetration nodes like that dont really work together with multipliers right so theyre a fair bit weaker per node

[warped helm]

with bladestorm, arent these really good for single target too now or do these still not trigger without extra targets

[warped helm]

@warped night thx for the suggestion, havent tried the melee trigger spam yet, multi feels pretty nice

probably doubled my output over hammer smite lmao

[turbid dome]

Multi strike is the most smites of the triggered smite builds

The downside is you gotta be in melee range

[rocky jetty]

I'm running void warpath, but I'm feeling pretty squishy even at 100c. any suggestions/tips for quick changes I could make that would help? other than farm BIS stuff

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QDbl15Po

[wooden mountain]

opposite end of the spectrum is self cast smite where you can edge of the screen kill everything but you get the fewest smites/s

[warped helm]

yeah, even using vk echoes apparently.. did not feel good enough

[turbid dome]

You need better armor and health

Like the highest sentinel body armor base has more raw armor than all your armor combined here

Looking at the max ehp vs one hit under defenses, you want like 10k (minimum) for each damage type

Also cap your resistance and cap reduced bonus damage taken from critical hits (the leonine helmet base is what most sentinels use for this)

[turbid dome]

[wooden mountain]

why are you building mana and not using warrior's fury?

[turbid dome]

I’d wager their planning to switch to warriors fury once they have enough mana for it

Which normally means you store the mana gear and use gear that’s better now till you have enough

Cause you honestly won’t have enough for a bit

Especially with void well being a 4 second cooldown

[rocky jetty]

so.. focus on swapping out the gear i have for sets of similar modifiers with just better armor first? being ok with losing a bit of damage along the way to do it?

[warped night]

ayy nice. I actually tried my own smite over symbol of demise suggestion yesterday and it was like half the damage of symbol. I'm genuinely surprised

[turbid dome]

Ideally swap to not lose damage, but like

You can’t do damage if your dead

[wooden mountain]

you can craft 4xT5 gear which will be way way better than what you have.

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/echo-warpath-void-knight-guide
click the starter gear bit and see the affix priorities for pre-exalted gear and then progress to uniques with 1xT7 slams

[turbid dome]

And like 3k max hit isn’t it

Another solid way to bulk up a vk is grab as many 1x2 vitality idols and cram them into your idol board

Oh also

Put 5 more points into eternal form

%increased health is like the best stat, only behind vitality

[warped night]

armor is pretty low for a sent

[turbid dome]

Yea

That’s just a switch to endgame bases fix tho

[warped night]

and blessings

[rocky jetty]

thanks. i was only focusing on the affixes. forgot to look at the item bases themselves >.< been a -very- long time since i played

[turbid dome]

All good dude

Ideally it’s leonine helmet, champion regalia/apoyclapse plate (lil more damage but on vk I still go champs), and eternal gauntlets

Off the top of my head this should give like 1300 flat armor? (from implicits alone)

[rocky jetty]

yea, those bumped me up a ton. I don't think i lost a lot either. guess we'll see

[turbid dome]

What does LE tools say for your defense box now

[turbid dome]

Oh I meant importing it again to LE tools

But also get that vitality up, vk loves vitality

[rocky jetty]

yea, i'll wait for it to update 🙂

[turbid dome]

Cause each point of vitality is

• 8 max health
• 1% poison res
• 1% necrotic res
• 0.33% more melee void damage
• all your spells scale off of vitality, getting flat damage

[rocky jetty]

i... did not realize that it also scaled damage

[turbid dome]

Read your mastery passive

There’s a reason 15k max life vk can still do decent damage with rive

[rocky jetty]

so vit > str?

[turbid dome]

You still want some strength cause strength gives %increased armor

And damage on your melee skills

But vitality only goes on idols, boots, body armor and helmets

Strength can go on those slots and other gear

Normally I aim for two exalted strength affixes on my rings

If your not using unique rings currently, coral rings with an exalted strength affix are very nice (they have implicit vitality)

Then craft on whatever resistances you need to cap res

[warped night]

you can go for strength on rings + gloves, and vit on boots, helm, and chest

[turbid dome]

Ye

I like leaving gloves till last cause what i prioritize is based on idols (mostly)

Like do I have enough shred from idols with this?

[warped night]

at this point I just use immortal vise on all melee builds so it's moot for me lol

[turbid dome]

I mean same

But I’m tailoring the advice for a guy at 100 corruption with 3k max hit

[warped night]

yeah ik

[rocky jetty]

and i appreciate it. 🙂

[warped night]

there's the shred in abyssal echoes, but with it only going off every 5s it's probably not enough

[turbid dome]

Oh wait yeah numbers

40 stacks of armor shred on an enemy is roughly 40% more damage to that enemy for non-physical damage (I normally aim for 50 stacks)

To test how many stacks you can sustain go to champions gate and hit the training dummies there

[warped night]

also worth noting that the aim is for 50 because armor shred has strong diminishing returns

[turbid dome]

Oh yeah also to make that math make more sense, enemies always have 0 armor and 0 resistances, they just get damage reduction based on area level

So shredding armor till their at like -4000 armor = 40% more damage, consistently

Tunklab (it’s pinned in this chat) has graphs you can mess around with to visual armor shred (and a lot of other things)

[forest kelp]

200 vit?

[turbid dome]

Yes

[inland jolt]

What does shield bash scale with primarily? Is it beneficial to wield a 2h weapon over "monument of protection" or something else?

It feels like, after equipping a 2h, the dmg doesn't jump like I thought it would. But only jumped because of the phys/crit stats on the 2h rather than the base dmg.

I know block chance helps, block effectiveness helps if taking "indomitable force". Outside of that and flat/% phys, is there anything I should be looking for?

[warped night]

strength, block effectiveness, and flat phys are the biggest boons

plus event horizon

[inland jolt]

thank you kidpid

[warped night]

np

[warped helm]

awww it gave up on the first chance to bleed hit

[warped night]

rip

I managed to slam t7 as + t6 bleed chance onto a 2lp undisputed. was a huge boost

[warped helm]

i lose 40% damage 70% bleed chance but gain 28% attack speed

might still be worth gotta dummy test

[warped night]

yeah bleed comparisons really need the dummy test. sheet dps is super misleasing for bleed

[warped helm]

do you maintain the 255% of undisputed? didnt even consider it

[inland jolt]

follow up - what primordial would be beneficial to shield bash? i was thinking legends entwined with two crafted bear pieces?

[warped night]

each multistrike sword hit counts, so yeah it's super easy

[warped helm]

getting some 2lp undisputed's tho.. without that id just stick to a rare

[warped night]

that could work, though giving up glove slot (immortal vise) or chest slot (mantle of the pale ox or titan heart) is a difficult sell. I have a similar build, and I'm probably going for blossom of the immortal stone

[warped night]

1lp with t7 as might be a boost. worth trying

going for a defensive primordial isn't as flashy, but it does free you up to not worry about void, necro, and poison res, which can be an indirect damage boost if you end up making more offensive choices with the freedom

[inland jolt]

is onslaught any good for this? or is face of the mountain bis?

[warped night]

it can be, but only if you're really hurting for skill points imo. otherwise I would say horns of uhkeiros are bis

[inland jolt]

hadn't even considered that one.. thank you again

[warped night]

np

[quasi forum]

Which is the best blessing for The Black Sun: Increased Void Dmg, Crit Multi, or Void Pen?

[warped night]

usually multi

[quasi forum]

I ask because I'm not sure if "increased" and "more" are a thing in this game, and if they're additive or multiplicative

[warped night]

both are a thing. increased is additive with additional instances of increased. more is multiplicative with additional instances of more

game guide has a section on it

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/increased_added_and_more and https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/critical_strikes for crit multi

generally, for crit, added & more > crit multi & pen > increased

[quasi forum]

Thanks a bunch ❤️

[quasi forum]

So tired of farming for a Void Splitter

I think I'll just do the other Harbs then come back

I can clear 300 corruption pretty consistently so that feels like I'm ready to do the rest of that questline

[warped night]

yeah sometimes ya gotta take a break

[quasi forum]

You'd think at 309c it'd drop one with at least LP1 by now, but nope, Arengee refuses

[outer hedge]

I see pally, druid, and shaman reflect everywhere, but why not armor stacking forge guard with that node that scale reflect off armor?

unless flat reflect is the only way to go?

[silk wasp]

Because Paladin can get that node too and there's nothing past the lock reflect wants

[outer hedge]

ohh ya right

is pally just more tanky, but is there a point where druid can do better due to more reflect dmg?

[silk wasp]

idk anything about primalist but reflect paladin is basically a wall

[worn pecan]

Don't know if anybody is running it, but how well is Void Knight Rive build running at higher corruption?
I just got to Empowered Mono's @ 100c and I'm walking through the content thus far.

[outer hedge]

ah ok i just read that druid gives more reflect from passives

[uneven gorge]

Pally has way more consistent tankiness with block and easy access to armour -> dot reduction, but druid has crazy dr and ward gen shenanigans

Any primalist will have more reflect tho

[neat folio]

Sorry for reply ping, does Druid need to transform to access this tankiness/reflect?

[rocky jetty]

If I go this route.. where do I get my mana from?

[warped night]

neck, gloves, relic, helm, chest

blessing

[silk wasp]

Idols

[uneven gorge]

Mostly. You want to be in spriggan form to cast thorn shield, which gives giga armour and reflect, and swap to bear if you want the transform dr

[neat folio]

Awesome, thank you!

[fathom ember]

Anyone done a vortex pendant build with the bleed gloves?

[quasi forum]

I love the training dummies in the arena, but the damage is so inflated, makes it hard for me to figure out what I'll actually do as damage to enemies

[alpine canopy]

Enemies at level 100 have 87% damage resistance and dummies have none, so you only need to multiply the numbers you see on the dummy by 0.13 to get your "real" damage.
If you are shredding armor, it's not quite exact, but assuming you have plenty of stacks the difference will be negligible.

[quasi forum]

Ok!

[turbid dome]

<@&1161418687471956101> theres a spammer

[forest kelp]

Smite void cant use twisted heart

[peak zodiac]

every build can use twisted heart

[forest kelp]

You can't convert ward

[peak zodiac]

yeah but

20% increased health 64% increased armor and cast speed with 1lp for smite slam is still pretty dang good

[forest kelp]

SW better

[peak zodiac]

well… yeah

[meager patio]

this is for void sentinel ?

[forest kelp]

All melee

[wooden mountain]

the bottom three affixes & implicits are good for any melee build and it's only LPL49, much less than most other good boots

[junior knoll]

hey guys im playing fire throwing shield and would like to know what good primordial item would you guys recommend since none of the guides mention one, its reliquary nest good?

[waxen nymph]

Imo nest is the best

[quasi forum]

It's worth the slot

[silk wasp]

6 brewmaster's bricked in a row. I think it's time to stop

[quasi forum]

orz

[polar spire]

If you use twisted heart, kuden will spawn out of the darkness and bust your kneecaps

[pearl geyser]

got a link to guide? that sounds fun

[umbral osprey]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/shield-throw-paladin-guide

[peak zodiac]

both nest and +6 throw are good options, volca goes over why he uses the +6 throw in that guide and I think his logic is pretty sound

[waxen nymph]

I don't see the why he goes for t8
But it's late so I probably missed it

Do you mind highlighting it?

???

[peak zodiac]

in the video guide he goes over it, should be at the bottom i believe

https://youtu.be/z_j2OgTnbts?si=FODro6DhFQAi6EdP

[silk wasp]

The MA instantly dying the moment a champ shows up on 1000c is pretty funny

[peak zodiac]

<@&1161418687471956101> in all channels again

[neat folio]

They're out in force lately, I wonder what's up?

[bleak roost]

What's with all the moderator tags? Are we infested with bots?

[silk wasp]

There's like 1 bot a day that posts in every channel before getting banned

[bleak roost]

ah I see

[turbid dome]

in general if you see the mods tagged, its alerting them of a spam bot

[alpine canopy]

but also sometimes we just want to bug Vlad

[turbid dome]

yeah but thats normally like @waxen nymph and calling him a stinky head or something, not pinging all the mods

[alpine canopy]

[turbid dome]

[alpine canopy]

[turbid dome]

Ima guess vlad already went to bed

[quasi forum]

New Portal Champion confirmed, lol

[turbid dome]

A portal champion that’s just an infinitely long grole would be wild

[scarlet thistle]

Long Grole as a new uber boss would be fun

[alpine canopy]

Grölmungandr

[turbid dome]

it slowly makes more and more portals and blocks off parts of the arena to trap you

[alpine canopy]

honestly sounds almost as good as the secret bee boss

or would be, if there was a bee level

[silk wasp]

Which there isn't of course

[lavish jacinth]

Hi Everyone,

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/TheIraqiMaestro/character/Sentinel

I am running a ES VK and can someone advice me what do I need to gear for in order to take on Uber Abberoth? I am following https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/erasing-strike-void-knight-guide, and currently drained out from farming a well rolled Nihilis but that is my immediate priority.

[umbral osprey]

EE is just fine,nihilis is not top priority

[lavish jacinth]

Cool, so what should be my immediate priority now? a 2LP Grasp of the blood mage gloves or?

[umbral osprey]

I think you can kill uberroth with your current gears now

[lavish jacinth]

@umbral osprey i tried but kept dying and ran out of mana super quick

[umbral osprey]

really? can you record how you fight him?

[lavish jacinth]

Sure

@umbral osprey can I send it in this channel or personal DM?

[umbral osprey]

sure

[pseudo pollen]

For one thing, you might need cleanse ailment on belt. But I have seen many players without it

I believe your gear is more than enough against Uber

[supple nimbus]

Hello today ^^

[lavish jacinth]

@pseudo pollen I keep dying to one hits especially on his slams. Also at 1000C i keep dying against the rift beast. I am trying to farm for a 2LP belt so I can add the cleanse prefix

[supple nimbus]

Any best expriences to farm LP2? Im afer 47 Harbringer's map on Black Sun and there drop even no lp1

[umbral osprey]

my experience is pray before going :))

[lavish jacinth]

ive been trying to farm for a 2LP for one week now. I turtled 3 stashes of 1LP and none became 2LP....

I regret going ES VK tbh

[umbral osprey]

or you can farm gold and buy from merchant guild 🤣

[supple nimbus]

for 20 mln? No thanks xd

[umbral osprey]

I heard they say that 2 LP world splitter is about 500m gold

[pseudo pollen]

The Tripple Slam? Or the Burning ground slam?
I have seen people beating Uber with less gear. And tbh, I think you can try using 1LP Shatter Chain belt with the Cleanse Ailment affix. You might not need the HP on the belt

[lavish jacinth]

@pseudo pollen both lmao. Its just that during ES I am stuck in that animation and i can't see all the ground effects lol

[pseudo pollen]

I feel ya. I tried and beat him with Warpath last week.

[umbral osprey]

warpath is a little bit harder bc you can use evade while channeling

[pseudo pollen]

Yeah I know. It's so damn difficult. I have no movement ability and I cannot even use evade. Plus while channeling my movement speed is slower

But once I killed him once, I got Immortal Vyse glove which helped a lot

Then afte 2nd kill and 3rd kill, I got the Relic

[umbral osprey]

try time rot,that one is good for bossing too

[polar spire]

this is reasonable, please do it daily

[waxen nymph]

¡ban engi

[waxen nymph]

👀👀👀👀👀

[lavish jacinth]

Why is Nihilis such a chore to farm and then reroll.. omg

[turbid dome]

🤯

[waxen nymph]

And yes I was asleep

[alpine canopy]

👁️ .👁️

[forest kelp]

🦎

[turbid dome]

good man getting his quality sleep

[supple nimbus]

ehhhh FP my dear FP, even no 1 left for copy :F

[turbid dome]

yolo slam time

[quasi forum]

Trying to get another Warpath T7 chest...

[flat valve]

does FG node walls of solarum double less damage taken work? the stat in charsheet doesn't display the double value even tho i'm above 50% block

[waxen nymph]

I assume it works, but never tested it

[forest kelp]

I dream a dream

[silk wasp]

Time to burn 56 fp on redemptions and never get a usable stat combo

[forest kelp]

I used it to imprint 3xt7, and it drops insanely

[wooden mountain]

waow

[night rock]

your anomaly is spec'd wrong, you dont need borrowed time and emission as ES. you need max mark of rot and swiftrest for uptime. carcinzation > flames of midnight. your belt needs ailment cleanse on potion use or you will fail the final phase every time. i dont want to do the math but im almost 100% sure you are not crit capped -- you should drop implements for another point in prophet on ES. symbols of hope, you need to drop holy revelation and put those points into iron symbols.

if you are getting one shot, you should try using the blood mage gloves (minimum 2LP though, hopefully slam mana + attack speed). the biggest problem in that fight is the slam + ground of despair one shotting as it comes out quickly and he doesnt use it in a set pattern. attack speed in general will smooth a lot of things out so you are not animation locked as long. you can afford to drop shred on your gloves because you have it on your idols.

you should drop one of your 4 slot idols (you have enough shred if you are hitting ~30 stacks) for 4x 1 slot mana idols

overall, ES is not a great build for killing uberoth in an SSF environment (ie, without immortal vise and shattered worlds) so dont feel bad for struggling. you need to play enough to get a feel for when slam + ground of despair is coming out. its not a set pattern like his other moves (ie, the move is next in his queue so he will 100% use it like the black holes or spinning blade) but he does use it consistently enough in rotation that you should be able to anticipate it.

[lavish jacinth]

@night rock thanks for this, I will make the amendments, appreciate it

[gilded gale]

Do we know of any lightning smite builds that can do Uberoth?

Or any Smite builds in general, for that matter?

Maxroll and Lastepoch tools seem to be a bit light on'em.

[silk wasp]

Someone was getting pretty close with void smite just before s3 launched

Idk if they ever succeeded

[night rock]

lookd like you swapped from warpath based on your passive tree. drop 10 points in sentinel (overwhelm, bm, then 1 in whatever of the first 2 passives) and put them in to VK. max mortal cleave, eternal form, and abyssal fluctuations, put 1-2 points into blinding light for crit immunity, then something like doom knight or temporal

[lavish jacinth]

I swapped back to ES VK, i was just trying out Warpath

[night rock]

when i beat him, i used 2LP blood mage gloves, the primordial nest relic, and a regular helmet with no t8 affix

fairly certain nest > anchor because sentinel gets like 20% endurance as collateral for points on the tree (and nest itself has endurance on the implicit) so much of anchor's benefit is wasted. nest will give a good bonus to mana to make up for no t8 affix (depending on strength of your idols) as well as amping all the %damage or crit/crit multi chance you have

[austere frost]

That helmet is questionable as well no,the normal drop from aberroth that gives mana ,seed helmet is way better ,you have access to blind im the tree so dont need to be crit capped

[night rock]

seed is good but with the nerf to void wells, you're gonna have mana problems in that last phase with seed constantly eating at it

im not sure if decaying skull is good or bad with the conversion but it is a good damage boost if you have a good 2LP slam

[warped night]

could always swap to rive

has anyone tried reliquary nest + a bunch of mana idols for ES VK?

[night rock]

i did that for my first uberoth kill

used nest over a t8 affix

mostly because getting the perfect helmet t13+ to t8 slam (flat mana) is really, really hard

i think nest is just the best option pre SW because you get nothing but stats from your idols so stats x 1.5 is even better

[warped night]

plus the idol stats are pretty consequential for ES

[night rock]

it giving endurance% on the implicit is also huge, because it means you just need to find like 5% or so to get to cap

[warped night]

on rive I'm using immortal stone right now

I thought about using butcher's crown, since I'm using sword catcher, but I have a crazy decayed skull slam that I don't think I'll ever be able to beat

[wooden mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyrNNH_Dk-A from 1.2 but afaik should still work just fine

[scarlet thistle]

Devotion Smite should be plenty capable of Uber. Probably a few ways to build it even

[wooden mountain]

I've seen multismite do it too

but that was a chinese player with cracked gear I think

[waxen nymph]

I think I have enough dps, I get to 80% hp and 60% shield before the first slam

And my gear is still pretty meh

[wooden mountain]

the multismite I saw was on 1.2, you may have considerably more dps on 1.3 idk what changed

and tbf it wasn't a slow kill, sub 3 mins

it just looked a bit rippy

[waxen nymph]

Yeah, I have a hard time figuring out defense

Paladin + Null Portent

Ocearon

But after that

🤷

[silk wasp]

Time to bend over for Julra 🙏

[waxen nymph]

🙏🙏🙏

Let us know

[silk wasp]

The bad 2lp belt succeeded and the good 2lp chest failed

Can you reroll the stats on a legendary or do you have to do it while it still has lp

[wooden mountain]

you can re-roll but it re-rolls all the affixes so it's way harder to get a good result

[waxen nymph]

Strife?

It's supposed to reroll the value only

[silk wasp]

I was thinking that once I get the right stats on a slam I could just sac 2lps to the reroll gods to get everything higher

[wooden mountain]

yeah but presumably you're slamming with an exalt with good rolls, not bottom rolled T7 hybrid health and then when you re-roll the belt that hybrid health roll gets randomised and could become a min-roll

[silk wasp]

First try 🙏

[molten horizon]

Anyone try out reflect on FG with MA mirroring the shield + armor?

[waxen nymph]

Doesn't work

[molten horizon]

aw man really

[silk wasp]

Really

This T-rex's slow ass walk speed really going to make me run minion teleport boots