🔱┃sentinel

[waxen nymph]

💀💀

[vestal mirage]

wtf is that

[waxen nymph]

😅😂😂

[vestal mirage]

what should I take points out of so I can 5/5 warrior's fury?

[dense tendon]

why do you want 5

[vestal mirage]

idk big number good

[turbid canyon]

Does turanis bleed and ignite conversion work with everything? for example Smelters Might in the passive tree or Burning Sign node in sigils of hope tree?

[austere frost]

1 point in warrior fury is enough for speed farming ,5 would be unsustainable pretty quick

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[wooden adder]

is divine bolt paladin dead?

[waxen nymph]

It didn't got nerfed

[forest kelp]

Surely, although it clears maps quite well, people no longer seem excited about it; damage reflection and many other builds are more appealing and novel

[urban bay]

Anyone find a fun use for the carrion gloves?

[waxen nymph]

Bleed vengeance Paladin

Morditas Reach Forged Weapons

Morditas Manifest Armor

[urban bay]

I was gonna try to make forged weapons work, I love those guys

haven't tried manifest armor that sounds interesting too

[waxen nymph]

Can get a lot of pen from body armor and helmet
And a bunch of duration with Blood of the Exile

[urban bay]

morditas is perfect for this damn

gives me a good excuse to use this too

[waxen nymph]

Not on MA

But yeah

[dry trail]

I have finally after ~100 attempts got my first 2 ubberoth kills.

2nd kill gave me these

[mighty viper]

Alright will do 👍🏻

Problem is I am struggling with physical resistance if i replace the gloves. Guess I have to get gloves + helmet

[dense tendon]

one humble weaver idol with phys resit and vitality or void pen is all you need

[mighty viper]

Oh yeah that’s true ty 👍🏻

[waxen nymph]

2 lp but the crit roll is so sad

Still gg!!

[red kettle]

Heyho guys! Can anyone please help me with uber abby?

[turbid canyon]

Does throwing crit multiplier work with the passive?

[dense tendon]

im reluctantly saying no

[waxen nymph]

No

Generic Crit Multi only

[turbid canyon]

Thank you!

[half turtle]

hey can i ask , whats the generic idea in farming on echos at endgame ? i mean you guys farm 1 special woven eco or just roam to echo's maps ? i m VK warpath trying to get some nice items t7 to start crafting some nice items for my LP 2 gear if u got any help tips please do tell thank u in advance 🙂

[vestal mirage]

It depends what you're farming for, but it's mostly just running echos. You can put 2 woven echoes into your weaver tree and they'll ocasionally show up on your echo web. There is also a great strat for farming favor too once you have some starting weaver favor to spend

[half turtle]

yeah i m doing same i got 2 wovens in my echo weaven tree i m farmnig at 700 corrupt , like is there any good map woven echo to get some good good items ? drop and fast to clear ?

i mostly run ecchos as well till i get to boss so i can get my 2lp or 3lp weapon or w.e i need

[vestal mirage]

Not really. This is the favor farm strat tho. You put down a lostwood folley woven echo and surround it with false temples. It adds weaver mobs to your shrine maps

You just need to do the folly map first, then do the surrounding temples, and repeat. You get so much weaver favor from this that you profit a lot even if you buy all the maps

[half turtle]

so u only farm woven echos

[vestal mirage]

Nah I still do normal echoes

[half turtle]

i havent bought a single map in the lategame XD i think i should start doing it ,. why temple tho ?

[waxen nymph]

Because there are a billion shrines in it

And you are giga fast, giga strong

[vestal mirage]

It's especially good with warpath since you can grab the shrines while channeling

[waxen nymph]

But good lord I hate that strat

[half turtle]

is it worth itemwise ? i head in coast thare are many chests tho drop

[waxen nymph]

Doing the same map 5 times in a row then doing another and again and again and again

[vestal mirage]

That's why I said I do normal echoes too. It's a really good strat but gets old after a while

[waxen nymph]

🔪 👨

[waxen nymph]

Probably the most efficient for favor

[vestal mirage]

Definitely is

[waxen nymph]

You can do Lostwood + Reweaving for Amber

Lostwood + TRove for Imprint

[half turtle]

thank u guys

trying to get some nice items my hp suck

helmet affixes never get me hp and the core i need 😭

[vestal mirage]

Yeah the warpath helment is a hard one to get

[half turtle]

my hp sucks bro

2.4k

[vestal mirage]

Ooof

I'm at 4k rn

[half turtle]

warpath?

[vestal mirage]

yeah

I have t7 flat hp on both rings and t7 %hp on my belt. And a good amount of flat hp on my idols

and the big % on titan heart

[half turtle]

XD

[vestal mirage]

Mine is 38

[half turtle]

my low hp affecting me on riftbeast and shade... i get oneshot for 2.5k

[vestal mirage]

t7 flat on rings is pretty huge

[half turtle]

what rings u play ? show me plis

[vestal mirage]

I missed my slam on crab ring

[half turtle]

you prio your t7 hp i guess

on 100% affix

[vestal mirage]

Personal preference but ye I do

[half turtle]

i need to get 2lp of carca

carci * my ring is 1lp like my weapon and anchor

and boots

[vestal mirage]

splitter is really hard to get a 2lp of, so a good 1lp will last you a looong time

boots aren't too bad to get a high lp tho

[half turtle]

y i know splitter and rest hard to get 2lp

will need to pray for this one to be 1lp on nemesis

[vestal mirage]

I cheated and am using uber drops from my other character xd

[half turtle]

this is my first char i play 10days so ask things so i can learn better play and farm style

but shame on u cheater 🙂

[vestal mirage]

[analog tide]

Does a 2nd phantom grip benefit forged weapons any more besides the duration and crit % if my 1st phantom grip rolled 100 on the effectiveness affix?

In terms of FWs inheriting gloves stats?

[dense tendon]

sure

[analog tide]

So forged weapons can get up to 200% effectiveness of gloves stats?

[half turtle]

did u drop this ? @vestal mirage cause i still havent dont know its sohard to drop

[vestal mirage]

My recommendation for that is to get a confluence of oblivion woven echo and slap it into your weaver tree

Then just speedrun monos until it shows up on your web

this is mine atm

[half turtle]

this drops on shade isnt it ?

[vestal mirage]

Yeah, but it has a drop mechanic where the drop chance grows the further out the shade node is from the start of your echo web

So it's more efficient to farm it via the confluence echo

but the confluence resets your web, so you can't put a bunch down at once

So you put them in your weaver tree and speedrun your web

[half turtle]

does encountering a shade losing me a gaze if i fail ?

in the woven echo i mean

[vestal mirage]

I don't think so

you need to have this node turned on to have a chance at getting the echo

[half turtle]

i have

dont have this echo tho

[vestal mirage]

It's pretty rare but you should see it eventually

[half turtle]

to even inprint it lol

[sinful elk]

Less damage(Forgemaster's Might) is applied only on direct hits or even on dots like bleed?

[vestal mirage]

It doesn't specifically say so I'd assume both, but not sure tbh

[sinful elk]

Yeah it does, I really see no point in that passive

Thanks anyway

[vestal mirage]

You see no point in the passive?

Having a 2h AND a shield is pretty crazy

It's pretty insane if you're a build that doesn't care about less attack speed

for reference, last season I did shield bash with that node. It let me equip event horizon and the strength shield. It was veryyy good

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it's a good node for the niche that it fills. Just not generically good.

[vestal mirage]

Part of me is tempted to make another basher. I wonder if there is a crazy primordial or t8 for it

lol. the maxroll guide for s3 bash just has t8 strength on helmet

[alpine canopy]

lol

[dense tendon]

frenzy doesnt do anything for it, right?
could use evo's end for more str

[analog tide]

@vestal mirage I loved my forge guard shield bash build with event horizon. I just wish the sound effect for shield bash had more aggresive oomph.

[vestal mirage]

agreed

it was surprisingly entertaining perma stun locking bosses

[analog tide]

i had T7 melee crit on the event horizon, was awesome

[vestal mirage]

[analog tide]

oh ya all the hard content was trivial because they were stun locked

[vestal mirage]

only thing you couldnt perma stun lock was uber, but you did occasionally still stun

[analog tide]

Update to my bleed build. Added flayer's shield, seems to be a negligeable loss to dps. Cant use void cleave, so been toying with ring of shields and manifest armor. Manifest armor adds like 250 bleed stacks but dies often.

[silk wasp]

MA is tough to keep alive without building specifically for HP/s like Wrouk does or giving it a lot of melee damage and leech.

[analog tide]

Found the sword to replace Mordita's for this crazy bleed build

[silk wasp]

Wtf

That's not even possible

[acoustic heath]

Per 100% of what?

I think I dont understand the wording on it

[waxen nymph]

100%Inc healing effect

[full flax]

english is hard LUL

[acoustic heath]

Oh ok, so basically I have 1% more fire pen for every 100% healing effectiveness?

[acoustic heath]

Yeah, my bad

[silent storm]

btw these affixes aren't possible even on a theoretical level because you can't add a purple stat back to the empty slot the t8 created

[acoustic heath]

Also does Divine Catalyst works with Seraph Blade?

[dense tendon]

yeah but i think you have to actually heal yourself (not full hp)

[waxen nymph]

Bolts don't become melee

But now scales with Attack speed

And as Duke said, still need to heal yourself

[quiet phoenix]

Hello can I please get some suggestions on what to improve so that I can get my kill on uberroth https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Br2K2vZB

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 99

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (77) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,388, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,364.48, Regen: 12.56/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 60 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 7 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 123% / 73% / 86% / 80% / 76% / 77% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 80%, Threshold: 1,614
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 61% (4,455)

Used skills:

Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope / Erasing Strike / Anomaly / Healing Hands

[acoustic heath]

Is Vengeance good in Paladin build?
I'm running:
Symbols of Hope (for mostly passive buffs)
Judgement (for damaging aura around me)
Holy Aura (self explanatory, more buffs)
Healing Hands (changed to Seraph Blade to deal damage and heal at the same time)
and Vengeance, which I converted to fire damage type

[molten horizon]

i think ive seen some vengeance builds circulating this season, have you looked at other builds on letools/maxroll to compare?

[acoustic heath]

I didnt looked at any builds

I was thinking about changing Vengeance to Warpath for movement options

[molten horizon]

i did a warpath smite build last season that was pretty fun

[molten horizon]

Looking for some build advice on a weird build that im not seeing other people trying this season, its ravaging aura/smite dot VK. In its current state im breezing through 750c but 900c+ was introducing too many OHKOs for my liking and the kill speed was dropping off. Looking for advice on idols, affixes, or potential gear swaps. I am working on getting better amulet/ring/helm/bp affixes, just havent gotten good bases yet. Wondering if I should ditch Symbols for Anomaly, it would be a loss in endurance/dmg but I would be able to drop more points into the VK tree.
Build: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJdKKrqo

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.1

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (77) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,092, Regen: 51.8/s
▸ Mana: 288.92, Regen: 11.44/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 37 Str / 23 Dex / 23 Int / 30 Att / 66 Vit
▸ Resistances: 140% / 80% / 80% / 84% / 100% / 110% / 110%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 87%, Threshold: 1,240
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (165)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 66% (5,536)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 37%

Used skills:

Void Cleave / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes / Smite / Devouring Orb

[waxen nymph]

Why Grasp Gloves?

[molten horizon]

mitigation and leech mostly

vice would probably be better but i dont have one

[quiet hearth]

Anyone pushed with the 2h explode axe and that one node in hammer throw that turns all our wacky hammer nodes into raw dmg? Im right on the cusp but Im feeling like this is gonna sputter out soon

[silk wasp]

You're the only one I've seen use Cadence at all so probably not

[blissful nimbus]

I updated my VK Lootfilter https://www.lastepochtools.com/loot-filters/view/DQ9JxyXB If anyone has any suggestions for changes and/or improvements, I'm always happy to hear them :)

[quiet hearth]

gods I wish Cadence was a mace

I also wish they would change WP axe leech node to SOMETHING damage instead of leech, which is super easy to get

[manic quail]

what roll is better for warpath? melee speed or flat void dmg?

[warped night]

I think speed is usually better since added flat damage only applies at 60% effectiveness

[quiet hearth]

New cyclone of war axe node idea , axes increase the flat dmg effectiveness by 5% per point, to a total of +40%

[alpine canopy]

imo phys pen should be on axe and mace... well really I don't care what happens to mace lol

but maybe global more stun chance would be fitting

[vestal mirage]

what twink unique would you use for leveling as a bleed hammerdin

[iron basin]

Draven I hope I can make you proud. I planned out a build that might make DoT Smelter's okay

it seems incredibly unlikely

[placid bronze]

Is Exsanguinous essential for Erasing Strike?

[iron basin]

i genuinely didn't know people used Exsang for ES builds

[alpine canopy]

Why?

[iron basin]

I just realized since I'm not actually submitting this dumb Smelter's Wrath build to Perry's contest, I can use a different primoridal than the ring

[vestal mirage]

wtf this could have been insane

[polar hound]

Gentlemen, does anyone have a good reflectadin loot filter? i am bad with filters

[austere frost]

Honestly people should watch someone making a loot filter its pretty easy when you see how it works ,thats how I learned to do it in first place.

[polar hound]

my brain smol

[late sierra]

Is there a way to auto cast ring of shields?

[vestal mirage]

don't think so. not without doing the numlock trick but idk how exactly it works

[late sierra]

Dang, was hoping there'd be an in-game way

[alpine canopy]

There's the single shield on block chance in FG which is the closest you can get aside from numlock

[waxen nymph]

The cast on block node gives you most of the benefits

[turbid canyon]

Is there a guide or damage formula to increasing Electrify Damage by Javelin? More specific: How does increasing javelin damage increase Electrify Damage?

[dense tendon]

if you mean something like "increased/more damage with javelin" it would apply

[alpine canopy]

The simple answer is all modifiers you have on javelin are passed down to the ailments it inflicts, and apply to electrify if applicable based on electrify's scaling tags (lightning, DOT).
So the attribute scaling applies because it grants generic increased damage per attribute, and stuff like more DOT applies, but things like more hit damage or throwing damage do not apply.

[turbid canyon]

Thank you!

[iron basin]

oh my

[forest kelp]

Gl with slam

[quaint hearth]

I remember I had around 1k healing effectiveness on my Judgement Pala
Now I see that Its around 800 without any gear changes
Did I miss any change regarding that in patch notes?
I used to face tank Aby now he kicks my ass

[vestal mirage]

They made some changes to judgement so it's not completely broken now

[iron basin]

alright gettin there

[vestal mirage]

Huge shield

What build are you cooking up with that?

Some kind of cursed vengeance build?

[south ledge]

So apparently this thing hits like a truck. Lvl 85 with really not good items, and void cleave is hitting +/-15m on the dummy already. I'm using both the bleed and timerot damage nodes successfully

[vestal mirage]

What a crazy sword holy

[waxen nymph]

I'm using both the bleed and timerot damage nodes successfully

This is really the key to make VC works

Scaling it further is going to be hard without crit though

[iron basin]

there's a good chance that if I'm posting anything it'll be cursed tbh

[south ledge]

Where to put the VC points optimally though? I got 26 availabe

[vestal mirage]

[south ledge]

Not quite sure about the bottom part

Where it's most efficient

[iron basin]

gotta go bully Harton for belts now

[vestal mirage]

Are you doing crit vengeance or what?

You got me curious now

[iron basin]

no 🙂

funny enough, the vengeance stuff on the shield is the least important

[waxen nymph]

Imo

Also using Vengeance as a buffer is the best choice

[vestal mirage]

Minion build?

[waxen nymph]

Like this

[dull escarp]

hey guys i was thinking of starting a erasing strike void knight build. what is the best primordial unique i should use for this? and is there a build out there for the new season which is using a primordial unique...i cant seem to find one thanks

[vestal mirage]

Erasing might be like warpath vk where theyre using a t8 instead of a prim unique, idk

[waxen nymph]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/erasing-strike-void-knight-guide

[vestal mirage]

Haven't looked at erasing this season yet

[waxen nymph]

They seem to go T8 Mana

[vestal mirage]

Figured

[dull escarp]

they are not using a primordial unique..thats the build i used for last season also...thoughts on what you think ?

[vestal mirage]

T8 mana is the equivalent of a primordial unique. Can't have a t8 and a prim unique at the same time

Any builds that don't have a viable prim unique usually end up getting a t8 instead

[dull escarp]

oh now i see...lol thank you...completely missed that

[vestal mirage]

👍 np

[waxen nymph]

My thoughts ? Erasing Strike is too meta
I dont like it

[vestal mirage]

Kinda based. Main reason I didnt play it last season

But I also played bear eq this season soooo

[iron basin]

my first sentinel was ES back in like 0.9

[dull escarp]

i am playing frogs now....first time doing minions...what else do you think is decent and fun and can hit 600 corrruption?

[iron basin]

I asked my buddies in voice to name him and the first name that came out was Steve

so Steve was immortalized

[vestal mirage]

My favorite farmer is always warpath. It's very brain off zoom zoom and I like that for favor/rep farming

Can just hold down q and nuke everything while watching some YouTube

Surprisingly easy to hit like 1200+ mana too

[alpine canopy]

Real, needs more jank
Like fire res stacking vengeance

[waxen nymph]

That can be a thing once the bug is fixed

Or fixed a second time

[alpine canopy]

Wait, it doesn't work still? 👀

[waxen nymph]

I know it doesnt work for Void Res > TR

Havent tried Fire Res > ignite

[alpine canopy]

Oh no

Maybe I should go to legacy to test that then lol

Otherwise that build has no hope

(Aside from the symbols, of course)

[waxen nymph]

Maybe you need to stack Phys Res for Pen

[alpine canopy]

[alpine canopy]

I think Mike said the fire conversion made it give fire pen per fire res... to time rot. lol

[waxen nymph]

Holy !!!!!

[iron basin]

I like how it's usable even after this absolute meme ofa build inevitibly fails

[waxen nymph]

Meme build ?

[vestal mirage]

meme build
Vlad's immediately interested

[iron basin]

I'm just sayin this item might be involved

[vestal mirage]

Some kind of cursed fg build since you have the prim shield too

What in the heck are you cooking

[waxen nymph]

Oh no

Furnace Smelter Wrath

Good god

[iron basin]

the shield gives Area

you can get up to like 200% increased area now

[vestal mirage]

He is literally cooking

[waxen nymph]

Ill be happy to be proven wrong

But it deals no dmg

[iron basin]

so the furnace itself is supplemental. just building for fire DoT as a whole

Smelter's Wrath gets dot juicing roughly on par with solo scorpion

[waxen nymph]

Mixed in some ignite ?

[iron basin]

so like there's some actual potential but I'm not confident it'll work

Pyre of Affliction happens to be an axe so you get a little bit of bleed chance from FG tree. Maelhin's Hubris converts to ignite

[vestal mirage]

How much more gearing do you need to do before you can test it?

[iron basin]

this node is a boatload of ignite chance with hubris

[vestal mirage]

Good ol 280% chance node

[iron basin]

I have a couple of 2LP gloves that I want to reroll at the champion altar. they have nearly min roll ignite chance on them

[vestal mirage]

[waxen nymph]

Do you have your body armor already ?

[vestal mirage]

How much ignite % are you expecting to get by the end?

[iron basin]

not yet. just a crappy T6 str roll from when I was messing around with a javelin build

[waxen nymph]

Wait a minute

[vestal mirage]

[waxen nymph]

Sunforged SW Ignite ????

[iron basin]

quit giving away my tech

[vestal mirage]

That's a lot of ignite chance

Would that chance be converted to bleed with the prim gloves?

[iron basin]

nope, needs to be ignite for the more Fire DoT from Area

also using the shield

[waxen nymph]

Yeah but SW want ignite

[vestal mirage]

Ahh

[waxen nymph]

Cerata ?

[iron basin]

yeah

it has +4 strength skills to hit all the DoT nodes you need

and area on a shield, which you can't get elsewhere

[vestal mirage]

.

[iron basin]

plan was to use vengeance for fire res shred, shield throw for clear, SW hopefully for some kind of ST damage

[vestal mirage]

How long did it take to get a 2lp version of that shield

[iron basin]

it was the first one I bought lel

[vestal mirage]

Wtf

I haven't gotten any 2 lp prim uniques yet. And not a single 1lp bleed gloves 😭

[vestal mirage]

Why you gotta do me like that

[iron basin]

[vestal mirage]

Think I've gotten 4 so far but they've all bricked at neme

[south ledge]

Thank you @waxen nymph, used vengeance but forgot about the 20% global multiplier.

[vestal mirage]

But my single red ring hit 1lp at neme so I can't complain

Decided to give bleed hammers a try so I actually am gonna need a 1lp set of gloves eventually

I was kinda surprised to see 0 bleed nodes in the hammer tree itself. So I guess you get all your chance from passives/gear/smite procs?

[iron basin]

notha one

[iron basin]

[analog tide]

@waxen nymph @alpine canopy Ok am I dumb or did I stumble on a new iteration of this crazy FW bleed build? If I run sunforged helm chest and hammer, would EACH INDIVIDUAL FW inherit the '25-42% ignite chance per forged weapon' affix? 15x FWs equates to a potential 630% ignite chance (converted to bleed by carrion gloves).

but does that mean just 630 total, or 630 x 15?

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[silk wasp]

Forged Weapons don't benefit from +x per Forged Weapon effects

Even if they did, their ailments aren't yours to convert

[analog tide]

they are mine to convert tho

I use morditas reach and carrion gloves, and the FWs stack bleeds

up to 3000

they stack zero frosbite stacks

[waxen nymph]

They don't benefit from it because they can't have FW themselves

It's probably your own bleed mixed in it

A friend of mine just send me this

[vestal mirage]

Wtf

1 in 15,185 for lp4

[hollow skiff]

[silk wasp]

Not 15% block chance, throw it in the trash

[gilded gale]

Can someone help me? I'm using Smite Descend node, but it's not teleporting me to the location, nor is it giving me the attack speed buff.

[waxen nymph]

Node seemed to be bugged for some people

[gilded gale]

Any way to fix?

[waxen nymph]

I havent found any because when I tried to do it too it wasnt broken for me

[vestal mirage]

Bug epoch back at it again 😭 I wonder if it's some weird interaction with another node/passive that is breaking it

[quiet hearth]

Cant have shitake in Sent I swear

[alpine canopy]

In case you aren't directly casting smite, you do need to direct cast to teleport

[gilded gale]

Yup. I'm directly casting it.

[vestal mirage]

Imagine triggering smite with hammerdin and being teleported all over

[gilded gale]

It'd be like flicker strike

[vestal mirage]

Basically

[gilded gale]

Welp... that's shitty.

[vestal mirage]

There are a lot of bugs atm

[gilded gale]

Good thing they closed down the CT program.

[vestal mirage]

Probably the thing that is plaguing le the most 😭 so many bugs

[alpine canopy]

They didn't close down the program

[wooden mountain]

man it's a real shame that the Jasper's staff stack mechanic doesn't work for forged weapons.

it would shut you out of void cleave molten impact and attack speed rolls but still, it's just such an obviously on theme item for a forged weapons build and it doesn't work

[vestal mirage]

Maybe it'll work in s4

[south ledge]

@waxen nymph I noticed you didn't put points in the abyssal echoes node? That's free damage after all, what am I missing here?

[waxen nymph]

I would rather self cast it

[south ledge]

how comes? I can just hold down cleave + vengeance and never run out of mana

[waxen nymph]

So you can save some pts

It costs you 3 pts

Maybe its worth

[south ledge]

that would feel way too clanky imo

also attack speed is pretty high with the odachi

and I need to empty 4 VC charges quickly

[waxen nymph]

Guess you can take The crit vulne node back and a few from the area

[south ledge]

yep gotta try that

first need to reallocate points now in vengeance and VC

[waxen nymph]

So like this

When I used Eternal Eclipse I was selfcasting

But you are right

Just need to make sure this works with procced AE

[south ledge]

yep will try this

[waxen nymph]

I know this one doesn despite saying Direct Cast

But its been like this for years now

[south ledge]

oh that's interesting actually, because the nether coating icon appears on my buff bar

[waxen nymph]

I am glad someone is doing Void VC

Means I can try Fire ^^

[vestal mirage]

Would you mind sharing your planner? You got me curious

Vc is such a cool ability

[quiet hearth]

Void VC is the default though?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

Last patch I played 50/50 Fire Void with Eternal Eclipse

[south ledge]

sure i can share

but keep in mind it's very experimental

and focused on lvling

[vestal mirage]

Np, just curious

[quiet hearth]

Fire VC really needs a way to convert the aura

[waxen nymph]

This is my 50/50 Fire Void EE VC from last patch if you want to have a look too

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/pvtvlad/character/IWantPurple

[quiet hearth]

I did a weird dual aura with judgement and VC awhile back

[vestal mirage]

[quiet hearth]

RSI aside, it worked pretty well

[waxen nymph]

RSI ?

[quiet hearth]

repetitive stress injury, so much button pressing

[south ledge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owbKvgRB

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 86

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (74) / Forge Guard (5)

General:

▸ Health: 2,143, Regen: 34.37/s
▸ Mana: 179.44, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 14/s
▸ Attributes: 94 Str / 22 Dex / 22 Int / 22 Att / 71 Vit
▸ Resistances: 46% / 92% / 68% / 102% / 72% / 78% / 78%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 84%, Threshold: 532
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (88)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 76% (8,238)

Used skills:

Vengeance / Abyssal Echoes / Anomaly / Devouring Orb / Void Cleave

[waxen nymph]

No Traversal skill ?

[vestal mirage]

So vengeance is just to buff your next cleave?

[south ledge]

im using unspecced volatile

[vestal mirage]

What kind of sustain do you have with that build?

[quiet hearth]

Leech

[vestal mirage]

Oh. I guess a bit of leech in passives

[quiet hearth]

5pts in world eather will get you there

[vestal mirage]

Kinda crazy to me that just that is enough leech

[waxen nymph]

Also Anomaly

[vestal mirage]

True

[quiet hearth]

VC respects global cdr right?

[south ledge]

also the cooldown from sentinel passive should work

[quiet hearth]

Wonder how low you can get the cd

[south ledge]

since it's a movement skill

[waxen nymph]

I had 2 sec but with it being traversal

So it adds 1 sec

[vestal mirage]

So is vc just using a bunch of other skills to buff your next vc, using vc, and repeating?

[south ledge]

basically just holding down vengeance and VC

while rebuffing anomaly occasionally

[vestal mirage]

Gotcha

[south ledge]

and yeah leech is easily enough with the passive + anomaly

[waxen nymph]

I mean, you are a VK

Leech is not a problem

[south ledge]

i'm at 2,2 VC cd without cdr in boots and without the 15% cdr passive from voidknight tree

[vestal mirage]

[quiet hearth]

I still gotta try and see if the new primordial items will give me enough mana efficiency to spam abyssal echoes

[vestal mirage]

Dude I wish echoes was viable as a main skill somehow

Not just a side thing for armor shred/bleed popping

[quiet hearth]

I think it could be, but that mana cost is brutal

[waxen nymph]

Used to be

[vestal mirage]

Putting it out and watching the timerot spread to everything

[waxen nymph]

But it kinda got powercrept

[quiet hearth]

cut the mana cost down to 20 and I think it'd be fine

[vestal mirage]

Would you just be stacking mana + void well like warpath does or is that still not enough?

[quiet hearth]

I havent tinkered with it yet with the new items, I know before you had to have at least all t6 mana regen slots before the VK rework

[vestal mirage]

OOF

[quiet hearth]

and even then it wasnt hold the button down easy

[waxen nymph]

We used to use Vengeance to be honest

That would pop the dot at the same time

[quiet hearth]

Now it's between VK for void well and pally for regen stacking with symbols

actually, I forgot about the new promordial staff that gives 20% reduced mana costs

[vestal mirage]

Holy

Get the meme build up and running

[quiet hearth]

But as a pally we do lose out on that increased mana regen per block above but I think that 20% reduction goes further than the regen would and is less work

now if only we could use staffs in 1H as a FG

So, the toss up is gonna be the massive regen holy aura can give or vk for echo chance/void well

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

Engi !

[vestal mirage]

Even with the small nerf void well got, it'd still probably be better. Idk

It's not that hard to get like 1k+ mana

[quiet hearth]

laugh, so uh, apparently AE doesnt get the attunement tag even when you take the node to give it Attunement scaling

so the bonus levels from the staff is nil

[vestal mirage]

Ruh roh

[quiet hearth]

not the end of the world but still, there are a lot of good nodes I could use that bonus for

[vestal mirage]

Another bug added to the list or is that intended? Why would it not have the attunement tag if the node says it now scales with attunement

[quiet hearth]

Im in the builder right now, I'd have to see in game

[vestal mirage]

Ah

[waxen nymph]

You sure ?

[quiet hearth]

in the builder it's not working and I dont have the staff just yet to test in game

[turbid dome]

Vlad Private!

wait

Private Vlad!

[quiet hearth]

of course it takes the beast parts that I dont have currently

[vestal mirage]

It always does

[waxen nymph]

Doesnt loose the DoT tage though

Very weird

[quiet hearth]

ok so in game it does work

[waxen nymph]

I didnt realised you get Flat per ATt

[quiet hearth]

Yeah

[waxen nymph]

I always assumed it was IncDmg

[quiet hearth]

The stick is really strong here

[vestal mirage]

Draven let me know when the ae build is cooked

I would be down to try it

[waxen nymph]

This and this
Makes it really nice to stack att

[vestal mirage]

I just so happen to be leveling a sentinel alt rn

Or I'll just swap my warpath character to it cause why not

[quiet hearth]

and i'll need to farm gold to respec, man I am poor in every way I could be right now XD

[vestal mirage]

The struggle is real

I'm already vk on the warpath guy so I could test the vk version

[waxen nymph]

All right team
Time to go to bed for me
Take care

[vestal mirage]

Gn sleep well

[waxen nymph]

Ill be dreaming of my MultiSmite Paladin that I am lvling

[vestal mirage]

Good good

[quiet hearth]

well ok nemmy

[vestal mirage]

Sometimes neme takith. Sometimes neme givith

He usually takith

[turbid dome]

well yeah

he do be your nemesis after all

[vestal mirage]

Nemesis gave me a 1lp red ring this season. I think its the only notable thing I got from it

[turbid dome]

he gave you a stupidly rare drop and said thats it

[formal anchor]

Does anyone know if abyssal echoes needs to be in action bar for it to proc or if i can use unspecced lunge for example? For warpath voidknight

[fluid sparrow]

I am in a pickle, having both Rive and Multistroke with 2H + shield Forge Guard ... but It is soon time I should pick one of the two, for pure phys dmg with crit etc, which do you think is better, or doesn't matter - just pick whatever is fun?

Cuz Foe Cleaver is quite nice on Rive, but the armor to dmg thing and a lot of penetration on Multistroke, and the single target node makes it nice as well ...
(Also take into account it is a slow 2H)

So does one outshine the other or I should just pick my flavour?

[quiet hearth]

yeah Im pretty sure all my luck went into that ring

[fluid sparrow]

Haha I suppose MS is MultiStroke, thx Vlad :D

[vestal mirage]

Go to sleep vlad

[iron basin]

I might have to hang this one up

DoT Smelter's Wrath is really bad

4min abby

[alpine canopy]

Speaking of which... not only does vengeance not get void pen for time rot per overcapped void res, but the fire pen for ignite per overcapped fire res does not work. And even worse, I checked to see if phys res would scale fire or void, and for some reason on ignite specifically, have any overcapped phys res at all gives you like 66% LESS ignite damage!

[iron basin]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/confehdehrehtheh/character/BAS_ArmoredConfetti that's where I ended up

[alpine canopy]

Maybe someday it'll be viable... lol

[iron basin]

technically it killed normal aberroth :^)

but yeah it just feels bad to play

[alpine canopy]

I mean, tbf you did get Abby down, so I guess that can be considered viable

but yeah it sounds not very good to play

[iron basin]

only thing I haven't done with it is the axe node

can the axe volley shotgun?

the % more per dex is kind of an insane multiplier

[alpine canopy]

No

[iron basin]

booo

[alpine canopy]

but yeah, eventually if I try smelter's it'll be a dex stacker with mourningfrost using the axe volley

[iron basin]

that sounds heretical

mourningfrost on FG

[vestal mirage]

that sounds incredibly cursed

do it

[alpine canopy]

and stacking dex caps your crit chance for free, too

[iron basin]

doesn't SW cap crit incredibly easy without dex stacking tho

[alpine canopy]

yes, but free is slightly better than easy

[iron basin]

tru

[iron basin]

with 155 dex your effective more multi for the axe volley is 7524%

that's pretty big

after taking into account the other multipliers you can get easily

[blissful nimbus]

Why do some VK builds use these boots https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzAcBZwZiA (Army of Skin)? As a VK, is there also a Flay skill, or is it ‘only’ about the other stats?

[polar hound]

the last 2 stats

[fluid sparrow]

yeah I assume the melee attack speed and the more dmg vs high health

[polar hound]

the 26 MS is nice too

[blissful nimbus]

Does it make more sense to use https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBMuBmI (Drakstride) or are the drop chances so much lower that Army of Skin is the early endgame alternative?

[vestal mirage]

depends on the build really

[blissful nimbus]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/NyxMoera/character/NyxMoeraVoid I know, it's not perfect, but it works 😅

[vestal mirage]

warpath + erasing?

[blissful nimbus]

For me, it's still playing perfectly at the moment, let's see how far I get with it ^^

[vestal mirage]

hell yeah

I would say the flay boots are better

[blissful nimbus]

Thanks :)

[vestal mirage]

np! gl gamer

[forest kelp]

Erasing

[quasi totem]

If I only have 1lp to work with, would I want to pick Attunement or Flat reflect to scale my reflect better? Obviously I want both eventually but I can't have both right now 😛

[austere frost]

Depends on only 1 thing if your build has melee flat damage void as a need for your weapon then darkstride is better cause you are a lot faster ,but if you dont need flat damage on weapon then army of skin is better cause you are faster ,and have attack speed and more damage to it.

[turbid dome]

which thing are you using to scale reflect with attunement

[wicked turret]

hey i want to ask
is forge guard minion strat still good this season

🤔

[iron basin]

@turbid dome I pulled off a miracle today. I killed normal abby with this nonsense https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/confehdehrehtheh/character/BAS_ArmoredConfetti

[turbid dome]

but also gj

[iron basin]

resists are for nerds that don't have 85% damage mitigation while charging their smelter's wrath

[polar spire]

this 1000%

[iron basin]

also I can officially confirm that DoT Wrath is absolute garbage. it can kill abby but it's probably one of the least enjoyable builds I've done it on so far

[polar spire]

hey at least the crits will only tickle

[iron basin]

you gotta be prepared

[turbid dome]

true

[turbid dome]

truer words have never been spoken

[polar spire]

mmm i see the immolators and soulfire too

thats a lotta armor

[turbid dome]

🛡️

[iron basin]

yeah I tried to get as much synergy going as I could to actually make the furnace and ignites do damage

but even with all that increased area the More Multi still just wasn't enough

[polar spire]

oh i just realized you were using a pyre lmao

ok cool

[iron basin]

i only learned like 2 days ago that Pyre has implicit spell damage

on an axe

[polar hound]

fellas, whats the best way to to craft this? first step Evolution the mana, roll Vit , then boost the rest to T5?

[polar spire]

i dont know when i'll do it, but someday i'll run Axe Volley/Bury the Hatchet smelters

[polar hound]

im too much of a coward to removal the crit strike avoid affix

[polar spire]

theres a lot of stupid sh*t you can do with smelter's axe volley

[silk wasp]

It wasn’t nerfed

[vestal mirage]

has terrain always randomly eaten your hammers

it's a lil annoying

[silk wasp]

Walls will. Not sure what else

[vestal mirage]

going up stairs seems to do it too

happens a lot in the campaign xd

[quiet hearth]

I got hit by a single pixel of mono lagons sweeping moon beam and died instantly with max elemental res and 2k hp, good to see some things dont change

[wicked turret]

nice

[idle crystal]

can anyone help me improve this build ? Im not looking for advice on the stuff like resistances, the character is a day old but I want to see if there's anything I missed while designing the build or any items that would be better suited

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ozvnkxvo

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 96

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (15) / Forge Guard (58) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,294, Regen: 26.63/s
▸ Mana: 823.32, Regen: 14.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 25%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 68 Str / 11 Dex / 11 Int / 15 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 112% / 55% / 45% / 97% / 96% / 37% / 37%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 579
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (5,947)
▸ Block Chance: 50%, Mitigation: 45% (1,622)

Used skills:

Devouring Orb / Shield Rush / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Ring Of Shields

[idle crystal]

the concept of the build is that shield rush costs 73 mana so with worldsplitter it hits half the screen and has 100% crit chance

the chest piece allows me to spam it infinitely without worrying about health cost

[iron basin]

i was playing around with a builder for it earlier. at 155 dex you have effectively 7500% more damage between all the multipliers it can reach

which is uh, pretty good

[swift crane]

playing vk warpath but I don't have a nihilis yet or t8 channeling so I was thinking of slamming t7 mana into an evolutions end for the lvl to skills and move speed but I was wondering if anyone else has a better idea

[dense tendon]

sounds perfectly normal

[swift crane]

orians eye seems like a good option but only one that's dropped is 2lp so I'd rather not waste it

[polar spire]

and, no idea if this works or not, but because forge guards can run a 2h axe and shield, you can take void cleave, and void cleave makes next throw do +100 flat void damage

[quasi forum]

FINALLY got a Titan Heart

LP1

[waxen nymph]

Gg

[forest kelp]

void smite? 👀

[wooden mountain]

blade paladin works with the fire/ignite conversion?

[wooden mountain]

does reduced health cost of spells actually work for smite? I though it basically only worked for transplant & marrow shards

[waxen nymph]

No because Smite "consume" health, it's not a cost

[waxen nymph]

It should but it's not fixed

[wooden mountain]

the motto of last epoch

[waxen nymph]

Yeah...

[wooden mountain]

blade paladin vengeance with carrion of creation mite actually b pretty cool

shame it doesn't convert electrify too because with Symbols of hope you can get tons of ignite & electrify chance

[waxen nymph]

I have seen a video about it
It does look great

[dense tendon]

I HATE GROUND OF DESTRUCTION

[south ledge]

I made a crit blade vengeance build last season, was pretty strong actually. Gotta revive that at some point and fit one of the primordial effects in.

[silk wasp]

Phalanx/Cerata Vengeance is on my list to build this season but idk if I'll get to it

[urban bay]

just watched that, so tempting to try out. I love eye of reen

[alpine canopy]

Nope, still bugged

It's supposed to tho

[buoyant ginkgo]

Not at all for Iron blade at least

F8 !

[bronze raptor]

Bro a dev literally said he was gonna fix this for the patch

[iron basin]

nah but vengeance wasn't really all that important to the build. it was a way to generate frenzy on top of immolator's oblation as well as a source of fire res shred

[wooden mountain]

Is the vortex relic good with any of the new items? I haven't really looked into it

at a glance I thought the bleed gloves would go well with it if you just got a lot of % increased phys

[iron basin]

that's the axe throw during warpath right?

[wooden mountain]

yeah

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, and the patch notes said it was fixed, yet it is worse than not working, it actually nerfs your ignite damage if you overcap phys res

[wooden mountain]

% increased phys increases the damage of the bleeds and the hit rate of the axes

[iron basin]

i can't condone that kind of degeneracy

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, bleed gloves can help on most bleed builds, and vortex was good before already

[wooden mountain]

does warrior's fury scale the damage of the axes?

warpath is a bit short on other ways to scale ailments

even if the hit rate is very good

[alpine canopy]

Not sure. The axes are subskills of WP, so they are capable of inheriting

[dense tendon]

isnt the hit rate actually terrible for ailments

[wooden mountain]

it only has 60% of the chance to apply ailments per hit that other attacks do but it still hits very fast

and the vortex relic increases the hit rate by a lot with the axes

which don't deal less ailment damage

[alpine canopy]

It also procs smite on hit and whatnot, so it's not just relying on the axes for damage

[waxen nymph]

Play VK and get Echoed Warpath to shoot more axes

[dense tendon]

hammer throw has almost the same attack speed, no penalty and can proc smites without sacrificing its relic

[wooden mountain]

hammer throw doesn't have the comfiest playstyle tho

[dense tendon]

that's why they need to add a node that throws hammers while you channel warpath

[wooden mountain]

that should be the effect of vortex pennant, I mean it does have +1 throwing skills for no apparent reason given the lack of synergy it has with actual throwing skills

[silent moat]

New player looking for some help- first ever time playing the game, made it to level 71 (sentinel) but am starting to get a little confused on how to progress my gear and what to be doing.
Looking for someone with a large amount of game experience/knowledge that would be ok answering beginner questions, bonus points if you're comfortable hopping in a call.
I'm an adult that learns quickly, so I will try and make this as quick and painless for both of us as I can.

[wooden mountain]

1lp slams are going to be the big thing for you I would think

[silent moat]

I don’t even know what that means tbh

[wooden mountain]

you've found some unique items which say they have [number] legendary potential, yeah?

in the temporal sanctum you can "slam" an exalted item with a desired affix (eg T7 % increased health on a chest) onto those uniques to add a number of affixes up to the legendary potential of the unique.

for most builds the item progression is from rares & unslammed uniques to 1lp uniques with the best T7 affix for the build in each slot

[silent moat]

Hmmm ok thank you

[wooden mountain]

the temporal sanctum has tiers from T1-4, in T1 you can only slam low level uniques and you don't get to choose which affixes go on them

in T2 and above the item level of the uniques you can slam increases and you can choose one affix to be guaranteed

with 1lp uniques and single T7s being relatively common it's a very achievable power spike getting 1xT7 slams on all slots

with lp2 or lp3 the 2nd + 3rd affixes you get on the resulting legendary item are random though, so you have a 1/3 chance of getting the LP2 slam you want (you can only use exalted items with 2 prefixes & 2 suffixes)

[turbid dome]

Bonus tip; for most items don’t expect to get a 3lp or a 4 lp

especially given a solid number of items will still be below odds for dropping once the heat death of the universe happens

[peak zodiac]

learning the LPL system (or even just looking at the LP odds for a given item in an item database) is probably the best way to approach this

basically: some items it’s very easy to get LP, some items it’s much harder

for example 4lp kestrel is like 1/270 kestrels

[turbid dome]

Yea

[wooden mountain]

I like the maxroll approach, anything rarer than 1/100lp or with multiple exalted affixes on the slam belongs on aspirational planners

[turbid dome]

👆

[dapper wraith]

does chance to double casting nodes in smite can be echoed by VK after changed into void smite?

[turbid dome]

last I checked yea

double cast is a seperate double from echos

[waxen nymph]

Sure about that ?

[turbid dome]

based on my txt file of things about wizard vk, yes

also hi @waxen nymph

[wooden mountain]

self cast smite best smite

a healing hands on every cast

[dense tendon]

but you can healing hands on every attack anyway

[sly thunder]

hello there. I am doing the maxroll warpath VK, for fast farming. Have any of you played this build? if so did you make any modifications to it you found successful? mana is still a problem for me but its slowly getting optimized.

[austere frost]

Yeah playing that build is pretty good

[austere frost]

Don't copy it exactly there are definitely optimizations that can be done its a maxroll build after all.

[sly thunder]

lol. yeah i know. i like it overall. just want to manage the mana better, or find some magical way to regenerate 50 mana per second

[austere frost]

Post your gear maybe can figure it out together

[sly thunder]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOyzj73A

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 90

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,481, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 416.76, Regen: 14.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 39 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 15 Att / 31 Vit
▸ Resistances: 120% / 64% / 102% / 99% / 102% / 61% / 105%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 128%, Threshold: 1,071
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,504)

Used skills:

Warpath / Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope / Anomaly

[vestal mirage]

T8 channel reduction is a pretty crazy upgrade once you get it

You need to slam t7 mana on a few slots

Only 400 mana is rough

Relic/amulet for sure

[sly thunder]

yup. i am working on getting those t7.

i also have shattered worlds, i just felt like the anchor was better

[vestal mirage]

I'm running shattered on mine, just because I got a 10% dr 1lp one

[austere frost]

Ok you need mana on every single item you can have,thats why you struggling,but its normal you are going to farm that

[sly thunder]

i slammed a 1lp one and i am MG, so its a matter of getting the gold to buy it more than anything

[vestal mirage]

I would even slam t6 if you're having issues getting t7

[sly thunder]

thanks for the advice all

[austere frost]

Your warpath skill points should be changed drop all the mana less consume,and leech max the more damage one get another point into armor shred and go into the more damage to low enemies

[sly thunder]

im starting to get a lot of merchant and black market tokens which has been helping to acquire the items already built to spec from MG

Jellal, so basically just follow the build guide exactly lol

[austere frost]

You also should drop the point for extra orb charge in devouring and in another place cause your more void damage node in devouring orb ain't maxed

[vestal mirage]

You could even unspec abyssal echoes for now until you get more mana

400 mana isnt really enough for wp + ae tbh

[austere frost]

He just needs to buy a shattered relic with 1lp and slam mana since he is mg

Reliquary nest is pretty good before Uber gear though

[sly thunder]

it has been a little issue but not so far. i suspect when i get into the 400c+ it is gonna be bad but im close to swapping up some items that will have the needed mana requirements.

so shattered with mana is superior to anchor with mana?

[austere frost]

Yep 100 times

[vestal mirage]

The dr is pretty crazy

[sly thunder]

ok ill place that back in

[austere frost]

But reliquary is a close second

Cause your mana and hp ho bonkers

[sly thunder]

yeah i do take a nice one shot every now and then

[vestal mirage]

Get that mana blessing too

[austere frost]

You need the passive that gives you dr in Sentinel passive

[vestal mirage]

True. Borderline mandatory node on every sentinel

Take 4 points out of overwhelm and 1 out of fearless and put it in Armour clad

[sly thunder]

will do

[austere frost]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/owyvqmMQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.1

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,343, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 2,245.44, Regen: 22.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 55 Str / 10 Dex / 10 Int / 15 Att / 52 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 128% / 81% / 102% / 89% / 89% / 89%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 1,361
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,251)

Used skills:

Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope / Warpath / Abyssal Echoes / Anomaly

[austere frost]

This mine works for me at 1k corr ,would replace gloves and relic with Uber gear but this works very well before that.

[vestal mirage]

Reliquary is pretty crazy

I still don't have any void melee damage idols so I'm purely using the mana ones xd

[sly thunder]

thanks guys i will take all this into account i appreciate it

[vestal mirage]

How in the hell did you get a double t7 splitter

[austere frost]

I have a t7 melee and attack speed t7 that I need to slam I am afraid have 2 tries 😅

[vestal mirage]

[austere frost]

Just do enough rayeh and you get a decent amount of 2 lps

I can kill all the beasts without ever running out of mana feels good

[vestal mirage]

I have yet to see a single 2lp and I've done a lot of 500-1k corr rayeh

[dense tendon]

are we flexing our warpaths

[austere frost]

Its not the corruption, its the amount you do

[dense tendon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/DevilDuke/character/FormerlyChuck

stun avoidance

[vestal mirage]

Double t6 helm with t8 channel cost

😭

How long did that take

[dense tendon]

the 2nd t6 is a dead mod

[vestal mirage]

Still better than what I have

Could have been insane if you had enough fp to finish it tho

[sly thunder]

@austere frost do you prefer reliquary nest to shattered?

[austere frost]

No shattered is bis ,same with uber gloves

But before uber its the best in slot

[sly thunder]

Uber gloves?

[austere frost]

Check them out ,immortal vise i think

[sly thunder]

Oh gotcha. Yeah those are out of price range for
Me on MG at the moment

[austere frost]

At least you can buy them just farm a bit of token

[vestal mirage]

What do 1lp vise go for? I've never played as mg

[austere frost]

Me neither

[sly thunder]

1lp is 149k

So actually I can get them

[vestal mirage]

Only 150k? That sounds super cheap

[sly thunder]

The 2lp and up get into the millions. Which is dumb. I sell everything on my store for a flat 10k no matter what. I run it like the dollar store

[vestal mirage]

2lp vise is somewhat rare

[sly thunder]

Lots of drops = price compression. My guess is it is 3rd party gold sellers who flood MG to then sell their gold to players off site

[vestal mirage]

I did 50ish kills of Uber as cof with boosted boss drops and got 2 that were 2lp. And like 3 tabs full of vise gloves

[sly thunder]

Hence the prices always getting into the 100s of millions

[vestal mirage]

Not sure about this league but past leagues have had duping issues with MG which has led to crazy inflation. No clue if that has happened this league

Haven't seen anything about something like that

And prices seem reasonable for the most part

[sly thunder]

As an example this is the cheapest listed one

[vestal mirage]

That's super reasonable tbh

[sly thunder]

It is. I just hate the inflation

I wish ehg would price control

[vestal mirage]

It's not hard to make raw gold in this game. So within a few weeks people are already loaded

[sly thunder]

Yup

[vestal mirage]

Even as cof I've made over 15m raw gold this league. Most of which I've spent on stash tabs

[sly thunder]

Should I also put mana on immortal vise?

[vestal mirage]

Yeah

[sly thunder]

My stash tabs are
All full and zero percent organized

[vestal mirage]

My uniques are organized. The rest isn't

[sly thunder]

Any drops I get related to this build that have no lp I just toss in the nemesis

I played CoF last season. As a system I love it. As a player I want to get my build online so I can go full murder hobo and that’s just easier in MG, for me anyway

[dense tendon]

im gonna run a billion conquered towers to put my vises in

[sly thunder]

The truly ludicrous MG stuff right now is for that reflect shaman build

Immortal vise with t7 mana got me to 574 mana

[quiet hearth]

off I go to put another one of the respec vendors kids through college

[blissful nimbus]

Is it worth replacing my current axe with Worldsplitter?

[vestal mirage]

Definitely, but a 1lp with melee crit would be ideal

Just baseline splitter is really strong tho

[blissful nimbus]

Okay So switch now and then hope for a 1LP World Splitter drop and a good 2H axe with Melee Damage T6/7 or Melee Crit?

[austere frost]

1 lp splitter drops often enough make switch, if warpath melee crit,and melee attack speed mods

[silk wasp]

for what purpose

Bricked so many gloves making these and they're not even that good

[austere frost]

I wish one day they would visit the old skills as someone who started at 1.0 warpath makes you slower when you spin has never made a lot of sense to me they should lower some of the downsides a bit ,likr 60 added and 40 ailment apply could be buffed slightly

20 less ms could be 10 and we would be a tiny bit faster than when we running

[manic quail]

Whats the most important stat on this ring for warpath vk?

[wicked turret]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/the-forgelord---forged-weapons-forge-guard
hey i want to ask about this build im interested in referencing this build but im kinda skeptic about the lunge being specialize if i dont use lunge what would a be better alternative 🤔

[forest kelp]

it's hard to choose

[alpine canopy]

Doom chance

[regal zephyr]

Judgement bros, I'm hunting an exalt to slam on a 4lp sunwreath. Would you consider this good enough (T7, T5x3)

I've been trying to find something better but it's hell

[vestal mirage]

Multi exalt rings feel borderline impossible to get

Feels like neme never has exalted rings

[austere frost]

Just spam conquered tower ,you will get enough exalt imprints from there

[austere frost]

Just wait you can slam way better ring with some patience

With the new rift mechanic you have a lot of currency to spend on woven echoes

[dense tendon]

keep or attack speed too low?

dont have a single pair of double t7 gloves damn

[polar spire]

So reading it, lunge you can swap out with any mobility skill you feel more comfortable with. People just really enjoy lunge. I see he mentions that a really well rolled Odachi or crit multi spear (cant remember its name) is better than a 2lp sierpins, if you do an odachi, you can do some nice stuff with mobility Void Cleave.
I also noticed he takes the player healing node bottom left in HH, i don't think i saw them mention they're playing this build in a group? So you could swap points out for mobility healing hand as well instead of lunge

And then try and get i think its the champion affix sealed on a ring that teleports minions with you, so the mobility HH will always reduce cd for healing allies. Wrouk does that on his paladin manifest armor build

That is if you pick mobility hh

If void cleave, you can run far left, or run bottom left for crit vuln, which would help a weaker odachi out earlier

Dam, the build poster isnt in the disc so i cant pingem for their thoughts lol

So yea looking at it, i think even a mid rolled Odachi with crit vuln void cleave would be solid on this

so something like this could be good, and if you have +1 melee skills, can grab Scorching Path far left on Void Cleave and even then a sealed champion affix teleport minions with you on traversal ring, could still be beneficial

and thats 3-6 stacks of crit vuln you're slapping on, so thats some nice extra crit to help out a mid rolled Odachi until you get a far better Odachi

and the minions will make use of that Crit vuln, since its a debuff on enemy

since its a T2 build, and doesn't have a primordial shown, but they really seem to want T7 melee attack speed, you could just T8 primordial attack speed an odachi for it

a small bit of sealed melee crit on sword, but all the extra flat damage and minion damage, more than makes up for not running a 2nd phantom grip, so you can run a champion sealed affix minion teleport on traversal ring, which better lets you run molten infusion on void cleave

yea honestly a mid rolled or high rolled odachi + void cleave traversal might actually be better for this build than sierpins

A crit Sword Catcher could be nice too

[manic cradle]

I pushed my reflect pal to 1500c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiuiSFsk85w

[short gull]

im playing a orbit hammer lightning smite build what would be some good unique/normal weapons i should look out ofr

[dense tendon]

isnt that like a 2 year old build

[short gull]

im homebrewing

its my first time playing so idrk

[dense tendon]

damn how did you figure out how to hammer smite on your first time

[short gull]

i dropped a weapon in act 2 with smite on throwing from one of the boss thingys

[waxen nymph]

Also once you got one idol it's pretty obvious to use a Throwing Skill (there are only 3 to chose from) to trigger Smite

[waxen nymph]

Culnivar Claim, TriboElectra, Palarus, Devotion, StormCarved Testament

[short gull]

ah amazing thank you

[waxen nymph]

Mad alchemist Ladle

But this one is a bit trickier to build with

[median folio]

Hey guys, how is warpath void knight before level 85 when you get world splitter

[polar spire]

SMELTERS WRATH AXE VOLLEY

jkjk

[sonic fjord]

So I'm.playing the warpath vk and when I hit 0 mana even with 3 essences I stop channeling and then I get 30% of my mana and have to recast and recharge again does anyone know how to stop that from happening ?

[ashen berry]

Yo, any idea why Maxroll Warpath VK suggests chance to chill as a blessing?

[dense tendon]

it's a good defensive debuff

[ashen berry]

oh, defensive. ok, like that then xd i was thinking about endurance treshold or smth

[dense tendon]

warpath stops at -10 mana
if you trigger abyssal echoes or devouring orb you can drop below -10
also void well has a 4 sec cd
i can tell you how to stop it from happening but youre not gonna like it

[sonic fjord]

So I need a ton of mana and Max channel cost

I have t5 channel cost and 550 mana and it still does it

[ashen berry]

i mean, i have 1075 mana and t6 channel cost and it still does it

it has to reset at some time

[dense tendon]

channel cost doesnt affect the cost of abyssal echoes and devouring orb

[sonic fjord]

Couldn't I just remove the abyssal echoes ?

And it will be more smooth ?

[dense tendon]

it's more smooth but youll probably deal less damage on average

[wraith sorrel]

Is warpath unable to proc healing hands via cleric's hammer for some reason?

[dense tendon]

you use it when you start channeling then you are considered channelling, not using

[wraith sorrel]

huh, that's too bad.

warpath procs smite with palarus sacred light though, right?

oh I see it now. Cleric's Hammer specifically says when you use a melee attack and hit, not just when you hit.

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, so 1 channel is 1 use

[ashen berry]

why is warpath stacking so much attack speed now? even in world splitter lp2, instead of meele vid we get attack speed

[dense tendon]

melee void is more damage in theory but ive noticed that my doom stacks dont stay at 4 all the time vs uberroth despite having attack speed on ws
(20% doom chance)

[ashen berry]

is siphon of anguish only doom source?

or am I missing something?

[dense tendon]

it is

unless you mean universally in which case there's also apathy's maw

[ashen berry]

nah, meant in maxroll build

i guess that also explains passives warpath vs ES - 10 more points in Sentinel to get some AS instead of HP and dmg in VK?

is that doom really worth that? XD

[dense tendon]

hm maybe i should put a point in axe thrower for more doom procs

[ashen berry]

also, max siphon roll has 30, so maybe that would help too ^^

[dense tendon]

i got this but no exalt worth slamming on it

[ashen berry]

wtf, thats awesome

how did you even get that one xd

I have those, that have chance to be worthy of LP3 ^^ but with such nice rolls I'd probably wait for better ones

[orchid juniper]

stupid idea, if you have Carrion of Creation gloves and a phantom grip so that your forged weapons convert ailments to bleed, does the Serpent Milk amulet give them a boatload of bleed chance? or does that only grant the player the 200% poison chance w/ forge strike direct attacks

"poison on hit with minion skills" could go either way imo

[balmy crater]

Didn't swarmblade druid use that and convert it to frostbite? I would have to imagine it converts to bleed for carrion

[orchid juniper]

but do the minion attacks count as hits from minion skills

[balmy crater]

Serpent's milk is just minion hits

[orchid juniper]

is it? the affix wording is a little wacky

[balmy crater]

Says this in game

[orchid juniper]

huh weird inconsistency

[waxen nymph]

It does iirc

Also works with Morditas

[orchid juniper]

might be better off with Torkefin's Hunger, assuming the minions get their own viscera stacks, though 500% bleed on hit is pretty big

[waxen nymph]

They dont

[quaint hearth]

3 LP is quite common for that ring
Slam any 7 tier with good stats dont overhold it

[dense tendon]

did you even look at the rolls

[forest kelp]

Wish can imprint it

[forest kelp]

Reroll amulet lost evolution

[polar spire]

just hold it for next season

[waxen nymph]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/kallzor/character/Kallzor

[peak coral]

Heyo

[waxen nymph]

Yop

So whats the plan for your character ?

First congrats on making it to 190C by yourself !!

[peak coral]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-paladin-guide#gameplay-header

I'm using this as a refference

[peak coral]

Thanks! Took longer than expected tbf

[waxen nymph]

First I would finish some side quest/campaign so you can get your last Idols Slots

👀

[polar spire]

im surprised that doesnt take Holy War

[peak coral]

Ik ik, was gonna do it just now while talking to ya'll x)

[waxen nymph]

Then if you look at the guide, they use a very specific sword
I am sure you could by that easy in MG

Same thing with the Gloves

[peak coral]

Ya but they're decently expensive to get with (decent) rolls

[waxen nymph]

Even the no lp ones ?

[peak coral]

I can check rn, 1 sec

[waxen nymph]

Thats 4 pts you can use in More Dmg or Duration

[polar spire]

i see why it doesnt use it now

look at the chest

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[polar spire]

i love that sentinels steal rogues falcon fists cause melee fire and attack speed

and now we steal acolytes flayer boots too

cause attack speed on boots

[peak coral]

What do you mean with 4 pts btw?

[polar spire]

you dont have to worry about it

[peak coral]

Oh

Yea noticed it was about the other spec, not gear related mb

Ya the sword with att speed roll (Which is prolly the most important one I'd wanna get?) is for 1.1 mill, don't have that kind of cash just yet x)

[waxen nymph]

Love the Attack Speed

[peak coral]

Would you be ok with a vc? @waxen nymph

It's a lot to type out in the chat

[waxen nymph]

No sorry
Its 00.23 here and my kid is asleep in the room next to me

Well, I cant speak but you can if thats okay for you

[peak coral]

Ofcourse!

[wicked turret]

thanks for the tips ill try it

also i never knew void cleave be used to be a mobility skill tf

[wicked turret]

@polar spire can i ask another question im doing this right now where healing hands is passive right
what would i put 1 more for my active skill slot

🤔

[polar spire]

didnt the build want 5 symbols of hope and then all the points into crit to give your forged weapons crit and damage?

but symbols is basically passive too

i mean you can "use" it

but i never bothered lol

[wicked turret]

oh yeah im putting symbols of hope later 😂 i mean in the active skill box

[polar spire]

rebuke will hard save you from nuke boss mechanics

its always a good choice

[wicked turret]

ah true i forgot bout that

is ring of shield also good?

[polar spire]

a lot of people don't pay attention to rebuke, but its disgustingly strong

[wicked turret]

yeah 80% reduce dmg right

[polar spire]

you're already a minion build, wouldn't unspecced manifest armor be fine?

unspecced shield bash is good too, you can completely cancel out a bosses wind up special move

it'll 100% stun bosses

[wicked turret]

i was thinking bout that too but is symbols of hope needed in the bar or will it trigger by itself

[wicked turret]

wtf it does??

[polar spire]

yea read it

it'll 100% stun anything in the game for 1s, if a boss has a big windup attack, you can completely cancel it out

unspecced rebuke and shield bash require boss mechanic knowledge

[polar spire]

i think its needed on the bar? easiest way to find out is if your character starts stacking symbols in the buff bar or not

[wicked turret]

oh yeah enemies

[polar spire]

because symbols stack over time

[wicked turret]

so either rebuke or shield bash would be an interesting choice

🤔

can go between

[polar spire]

rebuke if you're still learning a bosses mechanics, shield bash once you have them down

[wicked turret]

yup thanks for the tips 👍

tho i dont understand why is odachi needed 🤔

[polar spire]

rebuke helps mitigate slipups, shield bash prevents the slipup from even happening

void cleave requires a 2h sword or axe

and odachi has implicit crit multi

the only other weapon with that are spears

but spears can't void cleave

[wicked turret]

ohhh

is there a unique weap for it or can i use exalted

[polar spire]

exalted is fine

and hell, if you dont pick a primordial unique, you can T8 melee attack speed

[wicked turret]

https://tenor.com/view/satono-diamond-uma-musume-lick-licking-gif-1120995586170710369

ngl i havent understand this totally lmao

the new primordial thingies

i got the dino relic tho just now gave it to a friend who uses acolyte

[polar spire]

you can choose a primordial unique, or get an exalt with a primordial t8 affix

that build creator really seems to like his T7 attack speed on weapon

so why not just T8 primordial the attack speed

[wicked turret]

nice insight

aight ill do that

[polar spire]

based on what the creator of the build deems is the best weapon, its looking something like this

[wicked turret]

guess imma need to do my own lootfilter for that specific weap

also need to find where to get it 🤣

never used 1

[wicked turret]

bruh lmao gonna take some time

im still lvl 50 taking a bit slow cause playing with a new friend

[polar spire]

if you find any T8 melee attack speed 2h swords, you could try using... was it a glyph? to reroll it into a different item type and try to get an early odachi

[wicked turret]

is the t8 exalted items dropped usually like t7?

just luck

[polar spire]

from what i saw, yes? but i didnt stick with this season long

kinda bored me compared to s1 and s2

[wicked turret]

fair fair

[polar spire]

basically skipped this season and the new poe season, going to wait for s4 for both

[wicked turret]

so you stop playing arpg for a while?

i mean theres a lot of new interesting games out

[polar spire]

currently playing no man's sky with wife while we wait for borderlands 4 to drop

[wicked turret]

isnt it out?

i saw it just now on steam

[polar spire]

5 more days

[wicked turret]

oh yeah 11 sep

yeah i also heard no mans sky new update?

nice shi

[polar spire]

oh wait more is a multiplier, 5 "increased" days

don't wanna make the le fans mad

[wicked turret]

lmao gotta be specific

[quiet hearth]

well, with a max skill roll I cant exactly be mad

now I gotta choose VK vs Pally for this dumb abyssal idea

[vestal mirage]

probably vk? idk

[balmy crater]

VK for manual cast, pally for auto cast?

[quiet hearth]

The issue is gonna be the sustain

[polar spire]

abyssal echoes spell caster?

[quiet hearth]

Ye, using the new primal staff

[polar spire]

oh if you want sustain screw the staff

run the frenzy helm and mad stack mana regen

go all in on mana on hit

thats also on hit so on everything but bosses you just overflow on mana

bosses you can toss in that spoon wand or whatever its called or mana on belt exiled affix

[quiet hearth]

Im building around the staff for a few reasons

[polar spire]

but even then you prob wouldnt need it

back when we had old VR i enjoyed abyssal spellcaster support

was healing 5000 a second and just sitting and face tanking boss mechanics

you can also use mountain boots for the -6 mana cost since you basically sit there and spam it anyways

[quiet hearth]

Pally could also get holy burst, just for extra to pop off with the node that casts it for you

Hmm, now is it ignite or crit

ignite definitely would be funny with the new ammy

no Im dumb two primordials

[polar spire]

that was always my problem with it lmao

i think ignite is far easier to work with over crit

and then you can prob toss out jav banner smite alongside it

[quiet hearth]

If I went crit I can use the crit belt and get mana back on potion use

[quaint raft]

anyone messed around with like crit javelin? got some pretty pieces for some non-dot javelin

[quiet hearth]

Crit javvy is a thing, lower left is full of crit nodes, I need to try the siege barrage version again after the changes

[quaint raft]

i wanted to try messing around with combining the lightning node and the siege nodes

[polar spire]

crit lightning jav? with lightning smites on throw?

and just all in crit and lightning

[quaint raft]

maybe, im thinking forge guard cause the "new" shield + 2h combo

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, you also get to crit cap pretty easy that way

[polar spire]

oooo but then holy precision in pal

• the spear crit in forge guard

hmmm

[quaint raft]

i was thinking just for the tank that is forge guard, but ya crit should be easy too

[polar spire]

if HC, forge guard, if SC, paladin? hmmm

[quiet hearth]

Pally kinda lets you go hybrid because of that one node allowing crit multi to apply to DoT