#🔱┃sentinel

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polar spire
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i dont know vk stuff (because i hate vk) do increased echo damage when a skill echoes affixes increased the damage of the ailments the echo'd skill applies?

astral crater
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My goat judgement falling from grace after the patch notes

loud quest
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Dunno jank. Nothing lives long enough for me to notice ailment effects :p

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Sad brobby sad

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Let me lament with you in solidarity.

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Someone gave a great idea for my mage build tho.

astral crater
polar spire
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friend sent me this, poor crow builds

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I pray forged weapons are better than them now

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so we can stop feeling like forged weapons are the worst minions

modest palm
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we sentinels got cucked so bad, it should be on porn hub

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i blame krafton

silk wasp
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Name checks out

warped night
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ayo that frenzy helm is kinda nutty for my rive VK

twilit valley
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I’m leaning towards this - lp2 would be good , maybe some sort of bleed build for end game

polar spire
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and then Rive's Foe Cleaver

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thats 1000% bleed chance right off the bat

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its probably enough that you could actually build for aoe size, and just 1, 2, 1, 2, 3 the whole screen and then move on

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and then run the bleed boots, and you have enemies trailing along after hitting them with 5000% bleed chance

twilit valley
polar spire
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mages have this for blackhole and i was like bloody butthole build

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those gloves are going to turn mages into better blood mages than acolytes

quiet hearth
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I just saw this and was like, I am going to forge strike the heck out of people

polar spire
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and then smite proccing melee HH's

quiet hearth
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@turbid dome why didnt you tell me about thicket of the blinding light? its my meme come true

polar spire
quiet hearth
polar spire
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WE FINALLY HAVE A RIGHTEOUS FIRE BUILD

zenith hinge
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Apart from mikes post in dev chat is there a full list of the new items somewhere? I think I'm too dense to find it lol

quiet hearth
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We've kinda had that with judgement

polar spire
quiet hearth
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I honestly think the new AoD is gonna be very RF feely too

polar spire
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im currently lost because im editing my leapquake werebear build to use bhuldar's wrath and the new bleed gloves

quiet hearth
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aura of decay in lich

polar spire
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oh yea ok

polar spire
turbid dome
polar spire
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you're tanky, you're bleeding, and you're boosting bleeds and reflect

turbid dome
polar spire
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my brains too hardstuck on the bleed gloves right now to look at other items just yet

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theres too many hilarious shenanigans you can do with the bleed gloves

turbid dome
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dont care about that

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MOAR VITALITY RELICCCCC

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MOOOOARRRRRR

polar spire
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ive only see the new primordials in the patch overview

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i see theres a dev chat video so im guessing other stuff shown is in there?

turbid dome
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their all on maxroll's planner

polar spire
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oh yea that one

polar spire
turbid dome
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I have no idea

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but they do be there

polar spire
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wait so maxroll gets to see all the new items, and the devs kicked dammitt off of the people who can see the new stuff?

silk wasp
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Full list

polar spire
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ehg's had letools longer than maxroll, and they're throwing letools under the bus

turbid dome
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thats much better than the maxroll planner

polar spire
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flay boots have attack speed on them

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its time to manifest armor boogie

turbid dome
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I do love the vengence gaming shield

silk wasp
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I'm unreasonably excited for that shield

polar spire
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bluefeather band for

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hmmm

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oh

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i can play abyssal echoes support again

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nice

turbid dome
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mask of indifference tho

trim basin
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I wonder how sentinel will be nerfed into the ground

turbid dome
trim basin
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or do we already know about sentinel changes?

trim basin
turbid dome
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ES got its damage reduced and void well is now a 4 second cooldown instead of 3

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uhhh

polar spire
turbid dome
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thats really about it

trim basin
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void well is now a 4 second cooldown instead of 3
oof

but thats less bad than i thought

turbid dome
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oh wait world splitter's crit is smaller

trim basin
turbid dome
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so you actually have to invest in crit chance

polar spire
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i pray act 10 is as big as they first told me, and then told me again later

trim basin
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and im basically the same

turbid dome
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dont invest as much in attack speed and yea

trim basin
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oh or

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swap to judgement

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to evade every nerf simultaneously and still be op

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you guys think this will be useful for judg?

turbid dome
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wtf is more conditional damage

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I do want to do pure leech stacking vk

trim basin
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so ignite/poison/bleed/etc

turbid dome
trim basin
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not very useful for our purposes, but the flat hp/mana on this are insane

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oh i just realized
its a weapon
att stack judg cant use weapons (?)

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so
rip

polar spire
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time to get a +9 Sword Catcher

turbid dome
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what skill even needs +9 levels

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*can use

polar spire
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forge strike, or at least some people like to tell me that

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i know judgement always loves lots of skill points

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smite too

silk wasp
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I could get FS to like 42 and still find things to put them in

polar spire
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especially lightning smite

turbid dome
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I gotcha with everything but the smite

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can we melee-ify smite?

polar spire
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you can melee-ify hh and tack it onto smite

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which ive done with staff builds

turbid dome
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fair enough

polar spire
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theres that one fire/necrotic 2h axe, which ive messed with before for that purpose

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oh no

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they made a primordial to encourage zoo builds

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well thats an interesting one

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dual wield forge strike here i come

turbid dome
tardy mirage
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xD

polar spire
turbid dome
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just throwing a tom out there cause their giving dual wield extra innate attack speed

polar spire
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yea all classes with dual wield get 1% knocked off damage taken, and 20% free AS

forest kelp
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33x0.3=9.9....hmmm need change enchanted affixes or symbol heavybreathing

polar spire
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thats so evil

uneven gorge
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It was needed because rogue could use the corsair set to become immune to hit damage

polar spire
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dam

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rogues ruined it for us

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as per usual

silk wasp
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smh

polar spire
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welp, first thing to check with every new season is

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how hard can i spam shield rush without it desyncing

quiet hearth
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That's the neat part, you cant

polar spire
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all ehg needed was more money

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i swear!

forest kelp
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I need to relearn and update so many things. Before, Ave told me not to worry, it wouldn’t turn into a new game, and then she got fired omegalul

sharp osprey
forest kelp
uneven gorge
sharp osprey
uneven gorge
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wdym?

sharp osprey
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e.g. I have a legacy affix on these gloves that came out in 1.2
Despite the affix not existing in 1.2

astral crater
trim basin
astral crater
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Prob not since it’s 2 handed, but the build got nerfed pretty badly

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Tho with orian’s eye, shattered worlds and advert of the erased or however the weaver boots were called all with close to max less dmg rolls it could be nice

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Tho judgement seems to not be viable at all for ubby anymore because of that fat cleanse nerf

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I could manage with the rest of the nerfs but if you're spamming judgement you get effectivelly only 1 cleanse per 10 seconds

polar spire
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i gotta go back to my "smite" build that uses judgement to cast it lmao

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a smite build, that removes the consecrated ground from judgement, and removes the on hit damaging portion of judgement (it still hits, so can do procs and things that require melee hits, it just does 0 damage)

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its sole purpose, is to suck in enemies, smite them all, and eat your mana

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which judgement is great for

tacit zealot
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wildfire embers. can it repeat the skill with all tree nodes also? so healing hands proc'ing divine bolt would the repeated HH also send out divine bolts?

polar spire
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that depends, do we know if the wisp is a minion or not?

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ima bet it'll be coded like rogue shadows

tacit zealot
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never read it as the wisp is a minion

polar spire
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like i said, we don't really know yet

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and minions are weird with skills subskills

tacit zealot
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low key hoping they are so this doesnt work how i think lol the low life chest seems really good for the ward stacking part that comes with HH

polar spire
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my biggest wonder about it, is the wisp spawns from igniting enemies, can they spawn on igniting an already ignited enemy? or does it require a fresh ignite and then no additional ignites after can spawn any

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until that ignite runs out

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its the little things that need better explanations

tacit zealot
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when YOU directly cast

polar spire
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im talking the first

tacit zealot
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it still says "you"

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usually they word it well if its from other sources no?

polar spire
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and then is that % chance to spawn a wisp based on each ignited enemy, or all of them

tacit zealot
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idk im not informed much nowadays so im just responding based on how i read it

polar spire
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im more asking rhetorical questions

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theres so much to that item that needs to be better explained

tacit zealot
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YOU have a chance to create a wisp
YOUR ignites

polar spire
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yea no i get that

tacit zealot
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my biggest confusion is why MR got updated before LE tools

polar spire
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because they did that thing where certain creators that had access to seeing into the files and data mining, they removed access from

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and they partnered with maxroll like a year or 2 ago

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even though dammitt's letools has been with them for 3x longer

tacit zealot
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MR is trash for any game besides diablo

polar spire
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they completely threw dammitt under the bus

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in favor of maxroll

tacit zealot
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ive use MR a lot for other stuff but for LE i actively avoid it

polar spire
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@willow wedge im not in your discord, how does it feel knowing EHG threw you under the bus in favor of maxroll? its so screwed

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like letools has been with last epoch 2-3x longer than maxroll

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i can agree with this

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i love last epoch to death, but their decisions on maxroll over letools is still wild as hell to me

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oh you're fine, the mods don't mind and the devs never come in

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turtle youve been here for 2 years, you should already know that every class channel is offtopic

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lmao

tacit zealot
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i know i also wanted to try change topic i said my piece no point keep on raging lol

polar spire
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oh in that case yea sure

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i feel like primordials are league of legends mythics back when they had them and wow legion legendaries and it feels like every build is going to have a primordial now

tacit zealot
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nah id say they are more like prismatics in arena

polar spire
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they're SSR's in gacha's

tacit zealot
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galeforce and prowlers had too short cooldown thats all i never saw an issue with them compared to hearsteel

polar spire
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idk what any of that is, im guessing league though?

tacit zealot
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mundo running at you with 0 ad and 0 attack speed but you on adc with 2.5 attack speed 100% crit some armor pen and hp% and you do 200 damage to his 5k

polar spire
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i havent played league since they removed twisted treeline, as 3's was my main ranked

tacit zealot
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ohhhh you mentioned league so assumed you was into it lol

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i got into it after TT

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never played it or doom bots

polar spire
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i played since beta

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but quit when tt was removed

tacit zealot
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i came in just as old rune system was getting removed

polar spire
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i remember when a private group was trying to make a private server based on season 4 and then got C&D'd

tacit zealot
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dont do ranked i only do aram or for fun modes its too toxic people intentionally losing from minute 2 because the jungler started on the opposite side from them

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or support didnt pixel perfect ward the bushes to reveal the most area

analog steppe
tacit zealot
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such mundane issues yet people turn entitled thinking they get to dictate a game lol

polar spire
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because ehg is partnered with maxroll

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from the people that get first dibs to new info

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that creators thingy

analog steppe
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they got rid of all the content creators from the CT program

tacit zealot
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i know thats the case for aaron he always makes sure to remind people he has no insider info now he is out of the CT

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and quite a big/influential LE tuber

polar spire
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i could be horribly wrong about maxroll, but i sim p hard for letools and will blast maxroll any chance i can get

analog steppe
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maxroll just updated their databases with the info today faster than LEtools could because they have a team of people to do it rather than just one person

tacit zealot
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ill blast MR for any game outside of diablos

polar spire
tacit zealot
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had too many inconsistencies in builds and early on into MR LE carreer one of their builds for pally had straight up wrong info

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diablo guides i swear by MR i tell anyone to go there they are the best ive seen for diablo content/builds (not played d4 since the construct early on so dont know how good they still are)

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4:20 am smoke then bed lol

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do low life affixes stack?

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#epic fail amadora lol

polar spire
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cant post gifs, but i can save them and post them

tacit zealot
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thats better

polar spire
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make it make sense ehg

tacit zealot
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im not addicted to 420. 420 is addicted to me

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im the addiction here

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if low life gear can stack i might be able to get over 15k ward on pally

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new primordial chest and then the experimental affix on gloves then stack health

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is it 1 primordial unique or exalted or is it 1 unique and 1 exalted?

polar spire
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which sucks

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i think you can put a T8 on a primordial though? not sure

tacit zealot
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yeah a bunch of flat life then stick a hp% t8 lol

polar spire
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but only 1 "primordial" overall

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I wanna find a T8 with 2 T7's and break it on a Merophage and pray

tacit zealot
polar spire
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oh thats right it is sealed

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cant slam a primordial on a merophage

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i think?

forest kelp
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No more tanky, no more Judgement Pally? heavybreathing

polar spire
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HAHAHA

tacit zealot
polar spire
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i had always wanted to make that smite node on judgement work, and it turns out, removing the ground and on hit damage of judgement is what made it work excellently

tacit zealot
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if i had the money to buy a unique for in game it would be to turn the judgements damage aura into a perma one rather than having to slam it but then each slam increases the damage output but also starts to ignite you so you dont keep slamming for free

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essentially RF in LE lol

polar spire
tacit zealot
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i always use that because i only use that skill for the DOT aura

polar spire
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judgement gloves and a wand knock off its mana cost, wand knocks off smite mana cost, you max out the current mana consumption, and then run a divine ammy

tacit zealot
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smite is auto targeted so the pull would only be useful for other skills

polar spire
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but because judgement still "hits" you can also tack in HH and run that on top of it

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so it pulls in and HH hits too

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holy aura flame burst would be good as well

tacit zealot
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but you can have smite proc off healing hands also

polar spire
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thats on direct smites

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judgements there to eat your mana and pull enemies in

tacit zealot
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instead of using judgement where its just another skill to proc smite

polar spire
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if you have a 1500+ mana pool, judgements going to eat it SO FAST

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and then your divine ammy = mega smites

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devotion*

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idk why i keep saying divine

tacit zealot
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i just go healing hands and do divine bolts then focus all crit, crit damage, ignite stacks and ward lol i like my 1 button build

polar spire
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that moment when the new super crit amulet looks great but then you realize you can't run devotion because its also an amulet

tacit zealot
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the div bolts auto target while im always getting healed and ward lol

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its the wildfire ember and the low life chest those are the only 2 ive seen that look useable for div bolts pally

polar spire
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if shield rush isnt mega borked like it always is, i'll run the new bleed gloves with a mordita's spear and run shield rush spammer

tacit zealot
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was gonna do necro but saw that chest lol

polar spire
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theres a lot to do with that pal passive since it isnt direct hits

tacit zealot
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only issue i had last season was not enough survivability since ward nerf but that giving more than other low life ones might be enough and i usually run an exalted chest anyway

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i dont focus the melee part

polar spire
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its hard for me to determine what other weapon could possibly work with the bleed gloves when the fact mordita's and rive foe cleaver exists

tacit zealot
polar spire
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i think vk's get up to something like 950% healing effect

tacit zealot
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i dont like VK kit so i dont know much about hh interactions with the other masteries

polar spire
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yea ive never liked vk either

tacit zealot
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not bad considering

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i get it to about 1300+ on pally

polar spire
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i wonder if the new amulet prim for void, necro, and poison to phys + voidwinter spear for its cold to phys, could be a play

tacit zealot
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theres gonna be a lot of options with that ammy

polar spire
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the new damage reflect chest is going to be a literal righteous fire

tacit zealot
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how long ago was 0.9?

polar spire
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ive no idea lol

tacit zealot
polar spire
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not in the way this new item works

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its flat damage reflect, not %

tacit zealot
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it just says damage reflected

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then surely it shouldnt take enemies defences into account if its flat

polar spire
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yeeup

tacit zealot
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does it just bypass both player and enemy defences?

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doesnt seem like it should or is intended as thats basically true damage?

polar spire
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i think dmg reflect is phys

tacit zealot
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yeah but if enemies have phys res and armor id assume it would be reduced on them if it didnt bypass their defences

polar spire
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oh nvm its true damage

tacit zealot
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idk i just read it as 100% of the damage taken is redirected back at them so if something does 3k damage but your defences reduce the hit you would take to 1k then id assume 1k is the damage the enemies would take

polar spire
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its all flat damage reflect

tacit zealot
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oh that

polar spire
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so mitigation doesnt matter here

tacit zealot
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isnt there another with up to 100%

silk wasp
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There’s a percentage damage reflect stat too, yeah

polar spire
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yea we know that one

tacit zealot
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thats the one i thought you was on about

polar spire
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i still wanna do self curse shenanigans

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that shield marks you and 5 enemies around you for death

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self curse

tacit zealot
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yeah this isnt the acolyte channel though lol

polar spire
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ha

tacit zealot
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im here for sentinel specific chats XD

polar spire
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it IS sentinel specific

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we can self curse with that setup

tacit zealot
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bone curse is acolyte though

polar spire
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yea you just dont pay attention to that part

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everything below it

tacit zealot
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how many curses?

polar spire
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just 1 sadly

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need more self cursing equipment

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come on ehg

tacit zealot
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then the ward seems useless

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idk it seems like the ammy is pretty useless its just a stat stick

polar spire
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i look at everything

hallow herald
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Isn't that chest good for shield throw

polar spire
tacit zealot
silk wasp
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Apostate’s for full porcupine mode

polar spire
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torkrefin

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vengeance

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that prim armor

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but then if you dont run that chest, you can also run the new void, necro, pois to phys ammy and hard focus phys resist

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with almost no drawbacks

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and make that work with tork and veng even harder

willow wedge
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I'm working on updating LE Tools right now.

polar spire
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maxroll is blackrock, and dammitt is for the people

silk wasp
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Thorns chest, rebuke Ammy, hit button and let everything die while you cower

polar spire
tacit zealot
polar spire
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poor dammitt, he's got his own discord and i ping him in here like twice a year

silk wasp
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Throw Sigeons in anyway specd for colossus stacking phys pen on block for more memes

polar spire
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yall keep distracting me to sit on the builder and im trying to play skyrim

silk wasp
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You’ve had like 15 years to play Skyrim. It’s jankcraft time

alpine canopy
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just stack those 1x1 reflect idols and a shit ton of attunement and you're rolling

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Shaman looks better than sent for it to me, but sent can definitely be way tankier so as long as the damage is there, we're okay

unborn cypress
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Is the new trex relic going to be a must have for forged weapons?

bold mulch
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i dont know, the node where the weapons explode but have more damage multiplier makes them die fast and be replaced. maybe the roar wil not do much?

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but what about the gavel multiplying the offhand weapon? is there a play there? would the FW effectevly have stas of '3 weapons'?

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or just maybe a well nemesis rolled trident with t8 attack speed and another sealed affix? T8 AS + another good sealed prefix + 2 normal prefix + phys pen and another suffix

narrow valley
pseudo parcel
narrow valley
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Anyone theorycrafting dino fg?

polar spire
tardy mirage
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oof

serene bough
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would warpath work with butchers crown or because its a channeling skill it would only be able to hit once

gusty abyss
narrow valley
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this kinda offsets the void well nerf and then some.

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for warpath

gusty abyss
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Yeah, that is probably the play, exalted primal with reduced channel cost.

narrow valley
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now the question is, does rune of evolution keep roll ranges.

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gonna be painful to elevate and get minroll

gusty abyss
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Mike said it does not

gusty abyss
narrow valley
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quitting the league, time to evo 10 t7 channel helms.
but can't resell items in LE

silk wasp
dense tendon
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ok have they shown anything good for warpath yet
other than primal exalted leonines i guess

mental flare
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PRAISED BE THE NEMESIS

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HOLY

winged elk
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After the patch, is the Erasing Strike build still playable?, or are there any recommended adjustments to make it work?”

silent storm
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Longer cooldown on void well and idols nerf will hurt the uptime a little most likely, crit cap shouldn't be a problem if you just slam crit% on both rings or whatever

simple reef
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time rot ES is looking good

mental flare
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tools updated!!!

forest kelp
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Nice

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I slammed an additional Darkstride 3xT7 with traversal gain ward, and the result was I died more often. When I needed it, there was nothing left 🤦‍♀️

latent ferry
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would speccing both of these cause mark of rot to increase fire damage taken?

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it doesn't change any of anomaly's tags so I presume not, but weirder things have happened

waxen nymph
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99%sure no

sudden sigil
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did the patch notes miss the 30% nerf to all healing effect affixes or something

forest kelp
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after four months, we're crawling back into the cave Gregory

waxen nymph
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At least for idols

tacit zealot
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huh healing effectiveness is nerfed??

silk wasp
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Oh, yeah I see that

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T5 Ring affix used to be like 86 top end, now it's 60

lone verge
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Bob should get the reflect bonus from Thicket of Blinding Light right?

silk wasp
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The More Damage Reflected to Bosses and Rares? Probably

lone verge
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No the "Every 0.5 seconds" mod

silk wasp
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Probably not

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Minions don't usually get special affix effects

lone verge
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Hmm.
That makes sense, if it does work that might be a problem, if it does work, it probably isn't worth having it

silk wasp
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Thornmail and Vengeful Guardian with Thicket and Thornshell could still be a fun MA setup. Two thorny lads

daring lion
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Goddammet. I said I wouldn't FG minions this S3 but primordial items look so good @.@ need the Dino helm or a good Primordial weapon to kick those swords into overdrive

forest kelp
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No more wrongwrap 3lp? omegalul

waxen nymph
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This looks insane for Shield Throw no ?

forest kelp
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Another Nihilis? omegalul

latent ferry
manic cradle
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without minmaxing - over 7k armor, 5k life, capped block chance, 55% block mitigation, and should do about 150k flat reflect dmg / s

crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (24) / Forge Guard (69) / Paladin (20)

General:

▸ Health: 4,169, Regen: 58.6/s
▸ Mana: 300.51, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 79 Str / 24 Dex / 24 Int / 100 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 137% / 70% / 108% / 150% / 78% / 72% / 110%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 1,082
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (131)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,125)
▸ Block Chance: 78%, Mitigation: 52% (2,260)

waxen nymph
latent ferry
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especially because +50% effect or higher means every 2 phys penetration (or void) becomes 3

latent ferry
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straw that breaks the camel's back and all that

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I might give it a shot but not right away, and it'll almost certainly involve abusing Legends Entwine to the fullest

uneven gorge
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (32) / Paladin (55)

General:

▸ Health: 2,872, Regen: 437/s
▸ Mana: 586.86, Regen: 13.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 38%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 29 Str / 19 Dex / 19 Int / 178 Att / 38 Vit
▸ Resistances: 144% / 112% / 190% / 195% / 142% / 116% / 152%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 98%, Threshold: 2,880
▸ Dodge Chance: 29% (985)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 77% (9,751)
▸ Block Chance: 80%, Mitigation: 55% (2,502)

silk wasp
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LE Tools really gotta find a way to fix the stat converts tho

lean swift
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Do we have anything for VK or mostly of people go paladin/fg?

gusty abyss
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (23) / Forge Guard (55) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,714, Regen: 260.4/s
▸ Mana: 302.68, Regen: 17.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 161 Str / 7 Dex / 7 Int / 7 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 124% / 57% / 57% / 76% / 73% / 46% / 46%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 1,116
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,447)
▸ Block Chance: 202%, Mitigation: 54% (2,425)

forest kelp
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Still 50 point weaver tree in next season?

uneven gorge
lean swift
uneven gorge
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Idk, I don't play VK 🤷‍♀️

silk wasp
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Noobzor thinks time rot's still alive but idk what he's cooking

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Void smite and dorb builds didn't change. ES should still be strong

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WP idk how big the void well nerf hurts that

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Rive should still be good

forest kelp
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I’ll probably have to spend a few hours to a whole day setting up my filter for the new season

lean swift
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rip 300% dmg

waxen nymph
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DOrb hasn't been nerfed
Jav is dedge
Noobzor mentioned ES

silk wasp
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Onslaught of Cerata uses Vengeance after the movement skill so there's no chance it benefits from Lunge's Juggernaut Dash, right?

lean swift
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tbh wont this be nice with bleed hammers :?

pseudo parcel
lean swift
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im only afraid about bossing tho

unborn cypress
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What would be better for Forged Weapons? Tyrants Skull or a T8 weapon?

uneven gorge
silk wasp
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Oh, we do have the t-rex stats on LE Tools now

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It looks pretty strong tbh

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Tail Swipe with 750% damage effectiveness and Bite with 625% sounds gnarly with molten infusion

tacit zealot
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is using 8 passives for just flat 120 heath a worthy trade?

silk wasp
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Probably not

tacit zealot
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i should have added that i have the new low life chest in mind which scales with heath

silk wasp
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The T-Rex roar is basically a perma frenzy. That's interesting

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Then maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯ depends on what those 8 points could be doing instead

lean swift
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dual wield hammer bleed might be such meme

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cant imagine it with 500% bleed chance and gloves

silk wasp
tacit zealot
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zoom zoom lol

gusty abyss
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Cleave when damage, HH when immunity is needed

serene bough
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (93)

General:

▸ Health: 3,295, Regen: 29.2/s
▸ Mana: 928.63, Regen: 37.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 40%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 80 Str / 20 Dex / 20 Int / 22 Att / 27 Vit
▸ Resistances: 84% / 92% / 82% / 137% / 104% / 79% / 119%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 659
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (109)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,154)

graceful scarab
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (66) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,752, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 124.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 53 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 2 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 55% / 0% / 10% / 50% / 20% / 3% / 3%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 43%, Threshold: 500
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (3,003)
▸ Block Chance: 29%, Mitigation: 46% (1,680)

tacit zealot
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (17) / Paladin (76)

General:

▸ Health: 3,781, Regen: 78.01/s
▸ Mana: 263.26, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 114%, Regen: 69/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 11 Dex / 34 Int / 27 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 257% / 88% / 88% / 80% / 80% / 94% / 110%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 38%, Threshold: 1,130
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (44)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 48% (2,958)
▸ Block Chance: 30%, Mitigation: 34% (925)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 3%

queen spade
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I just cooked a big dmg meme build for FG 😄

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Can't wait to test it out with the new season

austere coral
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (20) / Forge Guard (45) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,226, Regen: 126/s
▸ Mana: 204.41, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 33 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 31 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 86% / 96% / 69% / 91% / 76% / 57% / 81%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 771
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,841)

mental flare
queen spade
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It's all on a neat little google sheet GigaChad

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I don't think I'll ever achieve its max potential though

lean swift
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I will just go bleed hammeradin with new gloves

queen spade
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Too much time required

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even at half its power, should be strong boi

silk wasp
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I have 3 FG builds ready to try in ascending levels of confidence ending in just the same thing I ran in 1.2 that I know will do fine

queen spade
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I just need to cook up a build to use to farm gear for my dream build

sullen jolt
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old noob skill issues - I loeve shield archetypes - i saw trhis shield charge build - I wanted to play shioeld bask but thi shield charge looks so much fun - is it okk for 500c and some endgame bosses? does i t require a lot of invgestment?

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vid by bianaqc

silk wasp
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Do you have a link? I'm not seeing anything

silk wasp
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The gear's pretty basic and he's on 560 corruption in the video

sullen jolt
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basically, I love tanky chars - so I am also thinkign about judgement pally and shield bash FG - I love shield crush jugg in poe 😉

pseudo parcel
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Shield Charge can be scaled into Uberroth

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so yes, it's a solid build

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both bash and charge are likely solid picks for S3

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I will start with Charge on HC myself Gregory

sullen jolt
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I am an old noob with skill issues and I am looking for an adequate build XD

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for shiekd charge - i can get basic itesm through trade, right?

sullen jolt
lean swift
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warpath will still be good in s3

sullen jolt
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I tried i tand I didn feel very tanky ....

sullen jolt
sudden sigil
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Is 2700% stun chance and 500% stun duration enough 🤔
guess i'll know when i get to uber abby

stiff inlet
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (28) / Paladin (65)

General:

▸ Health: 1,244, Regen: 322.69/s
▸ Mana: 464.63, Regen: 21.5/s
▸ Ward Retention: 33%, Regen: 84/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 141 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 152% / 120% / 158% / 123% / 110% / 100% / 121%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 1,007
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (7,709)
▸ Block Chance: 86%, Mitigation: 68% (4,417)

stiff inlet
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If I have this right, its 174k unreducable aoe reflect damage + whatever else from judgement et al, 100% block (LE tools doesnt calc it right), and basically omega oneshot protection (16k+?) + >100% health healed per sec

uneven gorge
silk wasp
stiff inlet
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the attunement scaking

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plus the more on rare/ boss

silk wasp
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You have 1455 reflect and 141 Att so 1455 x (.09 x 141) is 18,463

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A max roll on the More of 401% would be 18,463 x 5.01 or 92k against rares and bosses per trigger?

uneven gorge
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Also why aren't you using the reflect idols?

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Just scaling tankiness instead?

mental flare
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is there any reliable way to max block chance without shield or staffs?

unborn cypress
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Ok so Grok is telling me that a T8 reforged sunforged hammer will be better to use over the tyrants skull. Thoughts?

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For forged weapons

stiff inlet
silk wasp
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Is it including the damage the t-rex does

silk wasp
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Muskrat's ai

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Very trustworthy

stiff inlet
silk wasp
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Small weavers

stiff inlet
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oh shoot

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even better

#

but then its not max block

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4 of those idols is pretty good though

crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Forge Guard (51) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,322, Regen: 68/s
▸ Mana: 132.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 28 Str / 8 Dex / 8 Int / 16 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 67% / 0% / 0% / 75% / 32% / 17% / 17%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 414
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (68)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 10% (259)
▸ Block Chance: 57%, Mitigation: 61% (3,285)

crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (28) / Paladin (65)

General:

▸ Health: 1,244, Regen: 363.65/s
▸ Mana: 464.63, Regen: 21.5/s
▸ Ward Retention: 33%, Regen: 84/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 141 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 152% / 120% / 158% / 123% / 86% / 100% / 121%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 1,007
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 76% (8,871)
▸ Block Chance: 86%, Mitigation: 66% (4,042)

stiff inlet
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still tanky as heck, but 300k+ reflect dps now

mental flare
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i made this but can't deal enough damage

stiff inlet
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link this build, I gotta see it 😄

mental flare
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (24) / Forge Guard (54) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,892, Regen: 251.18/s
▸ Mana: 189.12, Regen: 13.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 44%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 119 Str / 22 Dex / 22 Int / 24 Att / 46 Vit
▸ Resistances: 147% / 122% / 121% / 163% / 125% / 127% / 111%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 83%, Threshold: 1,198
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (121)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 80% (12,670)
▸ Block Chance: 101%, Mitigation: 57% (2,688)

mental flare
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feels like half of this

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at best

stiff inlet
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as long as you deal one damage, you can kill it

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😄

mental flare
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not kidding, my fingers start hurting after 6 minutes of spamming shield bash

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i want to swap to warpath tanky but not sure yet

stiff inlet
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what corruption are you playing on?

mental flare
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890

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for farming good double exalted

stiff inlet
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weird, I would imagine that you're able to get to 2k easily

uneven gorge
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I've only seen shield bash do decent damage with event horizon. Could also swap out belt for shattered chains + siphon for 20% more if you're willing

mental flare
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the fight last forever

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but i'm good here spamming conq tower to get the best exalted

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normal enemies on the echos cannot kill me tho, it's funny

stiff inlet
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yeah my plan on mine is that I cant die while spinning. I tried to make a "leaguestart possible" build

mental flare
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it's a warpath with block?

stiff inlet
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yeah

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the block goes to 100%, LE Tools isnt calculating it

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its reflect; the new chest. Everything is just enabling that

mental flare
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the attunement one?

stiff inlet
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Thicket of Blinding Light

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the attunement is for Thornshell

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planning to eventually switch to red rings which are even better, but I'm terrible at farming it

mental flare
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good luck, it was painful

stiff inlet
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but I'm assuming the one shot ehp on le tools is inaccurate because it's not giving the 100% chance to block from the warpath block

silk wasp
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LE Tools can't tell when you are or aren't currently spinning

stiff inlet
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I'm surprised it cant roll it into the buffs section

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seems like a good place to put the movement speed/ heal aoe/ block stuff

silk wasp
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It probably could but Dammit's one guy and he doesn't get paid to maintain the site

stiff inlet
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Oh yeah, I have nothing but respect for him, and I'm not judging

silk wasp
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It doesn't calculate the Dodge convert from Mountain's Endurance right either or armor from strength granted by Master of Arms

limpid dagger
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how does salt the wound interacit with phantom grip for bleed forged weapons?

quiet hearth
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I dont know who does the LEtools site, but man they work fast

sharp osprey
mental flare
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being unable to increase Shield Bash AS is bad 🙁

sharp osprey
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thunkthunkthunk

turbid dome
alpine canopy
turbid dome
quiet hearth
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I'll bet they are sweating having to worry about updated GD in the expansion

alpine canopy
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any legendary you don't have yet, just sub in basically anything with attunement

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I wouldn't recommend it as a starter, you really need those idols

quiet hearth
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I think you can get away with not having the idols at first, the body armor is already going to push you way up in terms of power and just Attun stacking thornshield was already enough to get through empowered, albeit it slowly

mental flare
alpine canopy
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I guess we'll see how slow it is without, and how easy the body armor is to get also... at least it's purchaseable, so we'll be able to get it somewhat deterministically

quiet hearth
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Ive pushed a reflect build into empowered, and that was before the Sent rework, I can only imagine now it's so much easier. I know I mathed one out before but never got to play it

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Something like 30k reflects It hink

uneven gorge
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It's going to be SO much better now. With good rolls you can get over 400k reflects on rares/bosses

quiet hearth
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I'm likely gonna start Lich but I will definitely be farming up for a reflect build along the way, I wonder how important Thornshell is since the body armor can scale you so high now, imagine using reflect with that Primal Cadence axe so your reflects also make people explode

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actually, do reflects count as hits?

uneven gorge
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they do not

quiet hearth
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Yeah didnt think so, however, gives me a reason to use Counter Attack

uneven gorge
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Or even communion of the erased for that armour

turbid dome
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I'm sad the new make your idol stronger thing is only like 20 more vitality

mental flare
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do clotho needle removes your ability to block or it's block + parry? tools is not reducing my block chance but idk if that is implemented

uneven gorge
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It converts, LE tools is just bad at converting

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So no block

mental flare
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ty

alpine canopy
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if I end up needing more defenses, I'll work that out later lol

uneven gorge
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Ah, yeah. I can already imagine waddling through monos with that 20% ms lol 🥲

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Seed might also be good for defences

polar spire
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oh nice dammitt got letools updated

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hell yea letools > maxroll

uneven gorge
uneven gorge
polar spire
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if anyone plays MG be prepared for people to sell thickets cheap because thorns builds tend to be butts in most games so free thickets for those of us that realize its real power

velvet leaf
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I am figured out new build. So exited to try it heavybreathing

btw what is the BIS item to convert health to ward (besides new Primordial chest)?
I am missing something FrightenedGroleWrongDirection

polar spire
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its the one we use the most

mental flare
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do someone knows why 1 out of 3 nemesis always have this trash item

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NO nemesis, i don't use that

uneven gorge
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woah, didn't know bulwark got new art, sick

alpine canopy
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Blinding light is gonna be so good

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Shaman can scale its damage higher, but my pally setup has 5M "effective dummy" boss dps which is plenty

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not ideal uber speed, but idc about that

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Funnily enough, it should ignore his phase DR

uneven gorge
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It also shouldn't be affected by aberroth's frailty too

mental flare
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a little hunt of double/triple exalted

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love this one with an open prefix

forest kelp
knotty harbor
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Will harmony of first (max attack speed) + fg + healing hand (divine bolt) comparable to standard hh paladin?

velvet leaf
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is it possible to stun uber aberroth? Or its immune

peak zodiac
unborn cypress
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Will it be worth it in Season 3 to run a T8 reforged sunforged hammer instead of Void Cleave for a forged weapons build?

winter copper
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no

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no void cleave with hammer

unborn cypress
sharp osprey
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well this is fun.

unborn cypress
forest kelp
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Minion patch

pseudo parcel
velvet leaf
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I have the idea of the build. If it will work (with new Primordial unique) - great.
If not - i will switch to meta or switch to BM )

But if it will work I expect crazy damage. Similar to javeling skill

tardy mirage
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reliquary nest for sheld throw

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get all those idols and give them a 60% boost

lone verge
alpine canopy
lone verge
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I'm wondering if it will make the trigger happen more often

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Because it increases the gain rate, but the ring has a set amount of time, so I'm just making sure it doesn't make it faster

alpine canopy
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The ring doesn't have a set time anymore, it only triggers when you hit your end threshold

lone verge
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Oh dang yea. It's no longer auto

alpine canopy
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Which is just gated by your SoH cooldown

lone verge
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Well, as auto

alpine canopy
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SoH auto generates symbols on its own now

lone verge
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Oh my bad. Whoops, that would explain the wording on the tree

alpine canopy
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So as long as you equip it, and don't activate, it just sits at max always

lone verge
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Hey that's nice at least. Means it isn't gated behind a unique

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Welp, I guess it's time to make the build even more tanky since it doesn't really attack

silk wasp
polar spire
lone verge
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Fair enough

polar spire
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Take a big chunk of damage, instant 20% max health heal

fair hollow
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some of the t8's are crazy... 160% fire pen for MA

velvet leaf
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i wish we could use primordial AND t8 affix 😄

silk wasp
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More Pen than a Bic warehouse

waxen nymph
fair hollow
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Yeah got vtuber model now

waxen nymph
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You stream? Or make yt vids?

woeful storm
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hello anyone with experience with smite builds?

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i wanna ask something

uneven gorge
woeful storm
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okay how much damage per 1 single smite can be considered high

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i mean what's the highest per smite damage hit you've seen so far

uneven gorge
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uhhh... over 80k? I think I've seen a few that do 100k per smite on test dummies

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Then multiplied by like 30 with every smite proc

woeful storm
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huh

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that sounds way lower than i've expected

fair hollow
uneven gorge
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Smite doesn't actually have that many more multipliers. You have a fat 250%, then just hit a billion times. Plus flat from devotion

woeful storm
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hmm

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would you think it would make the skill alot more interesting if we can do let's say 3m crit per smite

uneven gorge
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If it was limited to direct casts, sure

woeful storm
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not direct, any source

uneven gorge
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Idk if fissure smite can get those numbers

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Too stronk

woeful storm
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oh i mean hit, i dont think fissure would benefit

uneven gorge
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Well I say that, but falconer always does 1 trillion dps

woeful storm
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also correct me if im wrong, you can get upto 4 smite/hit with multistrike right

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if you take all the +armament stack node

uneven gorge
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Max is 6 if you really want to

gusty abyss
woeful storm
uneven gorge
woeful storm
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idk if uber has monster DR or not

gusty abyss
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Quick math's 1.5M

woeful storm
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can you link me your planner

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that sounds very nice

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with 1.3 i think that number can be at least 3 times more

gusty abyss
woeful storm
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wow you dont even use devotion

uneven gorge
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Oh didn't expect that

woeful storm
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damn than this shit has potential

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what im thinking of is using the new prim helm

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with devotion

uneven gorge
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void mage gang omegalul

woeful storm
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this one

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and "kinda" snapshotting

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basically you equip items giving as much mana as you can

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dump it all

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then put this on

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you can get to like 5k mana or something

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and get 1k flat from devotion

gusty abyss
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Gonna be a challenge doing that as warpath version though

woeful storm
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yeah warpath might not be possible

gusty abyss
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I calculated that I would need ~140% mana regen to sustain everything from the mana on hit

woeful storm
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no you build around 0 mana cost skills

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and live on negative mana

gusty abyss
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Big opertunity cost, better to primal the void damage on helm

gusty abyss
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Question is what weapon will you go for. That flay axe is gonna give 48% mana mod

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Or just straight up celestial doom?

woeful storm
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you dont need mana item on your main dps setup

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you wear mana item

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dump it all

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then swap

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oh shit nvm

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i completely missed the point lol

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the smite will count missing mana as the current mana pool

gusty abyss
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I thought they fixed everything that could cause big negative mana?

gusty abyss
# woeful storm then swap

Wait, are you saying that swapping mana gear out while missing that mana it will preserve your missing mana and result in negative mana?

forest kelp
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Lazy to snapshot

woeful storm
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oh i reread your cmt

gusty abyss
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What 5k not enough? 😄

woeful storm
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i dont think i mean that

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no if you're at 0 from 5k pool you're missing 5k mana

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but then you swap out, you're just 0 from let's say 500

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and you're now just missing 500

gusty abyss
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right

woeful storm
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if you can go into the really negative somehow

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different story

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but then it wont need snapshot

gusty abyss
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I think the most degenerate you can get, is getting -200 from speccing all the mana cost nodes on erasing strike with the increased cost shield

rancid lantern
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (36) / Paladin (57)

General:

▸ Health: 3,430, Regen: 214.92/s
▸ Mana: 372.41, Regen: 11.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 12 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 116 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 120% / 88% / 126% / 149% / 70% / 80% / 100%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 1,439
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,241)
▸ Block Chance: 47%, Mitigation: 36% (1,030)

rancid lantern
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without Holy aura shenanigans

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not sure if that's good or just meme territory

forest kelp
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Something wrong with lastepochtool? Dont see SW and Vise in all my char

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Passive change too lol

gusty abyss
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Yeah LE tools seems to think its 1.1.7 times again

deft token
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What's looking better for forge guard minion build: Chorus of the Anurok, Evolution's End, Primal Cadence, or Tyrant's Skull?

Lot of options. I'm thinking maybe Primal Cadence or Tyrant's Skull

fair hollow
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chorus is primalist only

silk wasp
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And I don't think Evolution's End is Primordial?

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Evo's End could compete with Death Rattle, depending on how strong the rift beast ends up being.

unborn cypress
silk wasp
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That's correct

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Your FWs will look at their own stats, check how many forged weapons they have, see zero and gain no flat

unborn cypress
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I appreciate you clearing that up before I decided to go all in on a build like that. Do you know if the devs are aware of this?

silk wasp
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I assume so? It's not a bug, just how conditional effects function

unborn cypress
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Oh I see so it just adds melee fire damage to my own attack

silk wasp
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Yeah

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It gives you flat fire per active weapon

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Your FWs have the same stats as your weapon, but they need to meet the conditionals on their own

unborn cypress
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Ah ok I think thats how I originally understood it but then I got confused after your explanation.

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So it is a beneficial stat just not beneficial enough to justify running a T8 hammer instead of Void Cleave?

silk wasp
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It's a beneficial stat when you're more concerned with scaling your own damage over your FWs

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Since there's the opportunity cost of losing Void Cleave as well as whatever else you could be using to scale FWs in its place

unborn cypress
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Ok, I thought maybe having the ability to push it to T8 might weigh in favor of it but you're probably right since most FW builds are based around the FW damage themselves.

silk wasp
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It would probably be pretty good for a Detonating Ground build where your weapons are just spawning to amp your FS damage

unborn cypress
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Having said that what kind of primordial should we use for Void Cleave now?

heady ginkgo
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autosmite planner

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i need some info about judgement to kill uber aberoth

radiant tangle
waxen nymph
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Maybe truesight for deadly strike

sullen jolt
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judgement pally will be okk for a noog? looks like low APN, rigt? doable in circle of fortune or better trade/ I have developed a taste for ssf in games lately

pseudo parcel
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The aura version is fine

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The other one is likely ripge

sullen jolt
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aura version?

pseudo parcel
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Yeah with the gloves

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and Julra rings

sullen jolt
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or better this shield chareg build? on fg? i love shield archetypes.

pseudo parcel
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I'm sure someone can link it

sullen jolt
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i want to do 400-500c mayeb and a few endagme bosses?

pseudo parcel
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Judgement can do that all still

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but you wont facetank Uber Aberroth on it in S3

crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (30) / Paladin (63)

General:

▸ Health: 2,706, Regen: 114.48/s
▸ Mana: 1,624.06, Regen: 26.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 90%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 46 Str / 20 Dex / 45 Int / 194 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 246% / 118% / 172% / 91% / 106% / 115% / 109%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,663
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (95)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 71% (6,693)
▸ Block Chance: 96%, Mitigation: 56% (2,665)

pseudo parcel
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (30) / Paladin (63)

General:

▸ Health: 3,012, Regen: 82.76/s
▸ Mana: 1,992.39, Regen: 34.69/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 23 Dex / 23 Int / 181 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 201% / 94% / 161% / 64% / 93% / 74% / 86%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 985
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (92)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 71% (6,789)
▸ Block Chance: 89%, Mitigation: 52% (2,203)

pseudo parcel
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There

silk wasp
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The unarmed one is for monos

sullen jolt
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thank you

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😄

pseudo parcel
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This is also good but maybe as a second build

sullen jolt
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I loove shield archetypes!

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this one good to start?

pseudo parcel
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yeah that build was discovered late into S2

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it is solid

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and possibly much stronger in S3

sullen jolt
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so I start with it

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is it okk in circle of fortune?

silk wasp
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Shield Rush is kinda high apm though, isn't that not what you wanted?

sullen jolt
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high APM 🙁

pseudo parcel
sullen jolt
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piano?

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I eman will trade be easier?

pseudo parcel
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but until you get the uniques I would play something more generic

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like bleed hammerdin

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you can chill on exalted items, farm what you need and then respec

sullen jolt
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perfect, but does this shiedl charge rerquire uniques to function?

pseudo parcel
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it should work okay on exalted items

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you might want to rush the belt and siphon of anguish tho

sullen jolt
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tgh, i hate to level on sth different then i end up with

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laste season I was hsield bash from level 2 ....

pseudo parcel
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World Splitter can be farmed fairly easily and fast

sullen jolt
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compimu but i like dit 😉

pseudo parcel
sullen jolt
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do u think I will be fine in circle of fortune?

pseudo parcel
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absolutely

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CoF is super nice, I farmed some insane characters with it

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I mean you can get most items without CoF for that build

sullen jolt
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only recently have i acquired a taste for ssf - in poe, grim dawn etc

pseudo parcel
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belt and ring is a Orobyss drop, world splitter and the shield are from harbinger/boss that is easily accessible

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Nihilis can be farmed from normal Aberroth

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same applied to Null Portent

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so you'd use CoF mostly for the boots, Heirloom ring and Idols

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most of your favor goes into Havoc runes after that

sullen jolt
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perfect!

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do u tink it will be a chore?

pseudo parcel
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not really, no

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min-maxing your idols can be

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but everything else can be farmed super fast on 1LP, some items even 2LP

dense tendon
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i dont think farming for idols on mg is much better tbh
the prices are crazy

pseudo parcel
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I mean farming idols on CoF isn't that bad either

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adjust your filter to be strict, spam prophecies and you get them eventually

sullen jolt
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so shield charge it is then.

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shield bash was good but with th e 2h weapon so slow 🙁

pseudo parcel
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it is more for bossing

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I'll likely start Shield Charge myself, solo account found in hc

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would have been Judgement but rip

silk wasp
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I'll be starting Rive, pivoting into my sunforged build as I get the pieces

pseudo parcel
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My actual start will be good old reliable bleed hammerdin

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but I'm looking to respec asap

sullen jolt
sullen jolt
pseudo parcel
sullen jolt
pseudo parcel
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I skipped 0.2 but 3.26 was a lot of fun, I have that PoE itch again

river ivy
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Oh wait u meant poe1

sullen jolt
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in poe1

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bad rng 🙁

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on poe 2 i will go Tiatn / Kitava nacestral totems 😉

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kitava looks strong

pseudo parcel
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League was great, I played like 4 builds and dropped my first mirror after 9 years of playing

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On that note, if it is allowed, I still have 5 or so beta keys for PoE 2 if anyone wants one Gregory
(for free, obviously)

modest palm
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volca switched clothos for world splitter

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rip clothos

velvet leaf
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Splitter is also nerfed GigaChad

modest palm
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clothos every single line nerf was maybe too much

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even the subtype got a nerf

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like wtf

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rofl

gusty abyss
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I think its all about the t8 channel cost, that with the extra mana from world splitter goes hard

velvet leaf
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Btw if boss has 12 (max) time rot stacks new stacks applies even if they are from more weak sources?

Or only most powerful stacks stay, even if they have less duration left?

I dont wanna spam boss with weak stacks 🙂

modest palm
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could be that

alpine canopy
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Void well was nerfed, too, so extra mana helps counteract that

south pilot
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anyone has a leveling build for forge guard until shield bash or shield rush?

polar spire
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (20) / Forge Guard (14) / Paladin (59)

General:

▸ Health: 2,398, Regen: 254.1/s
▸ Mana: 131.08, Regen: 7.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 17 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 57 Att / 4 Vit
▸ Resistances: 158% / 88% / 88% / 84% / 128% / 95% / 137%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 705
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,944)
▸ Block Chance: 65%, Mitigation: 47% (1,794)

lean swift
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no vk builds yet :C?

muted oar
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Also u get another mana prefix on helm

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Isnt world splitter garbage unless 2lp

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Youll have half the attackspeed of a clothos and thats just .5 dps?

alpine canopy
muted oar
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oh ye its random isnt it

alpine canopy
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yeah, random with no way to reroll it (that we know of)

muted oar
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np t5 prefixes and t1 suffixes since VK gets 5000% res for free

modest palm
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if its random i can roll on a min rolled t7?

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since its going to be random anyway

muted oar
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supposedly yea

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Theres no world where butchers crown with a T7 reduced channel is better?

modest palm
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so maybe its a good thing

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looking at the situation with glass half full

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xd

silk wasp
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It does save on fp not having to endlessly reroll the t7 to guarantee a max

modest palm
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also min rolls are cheap on the market

velvet leaf
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time rot scales from some skill multipliers (that inflicted time rot).
If skill will have more damage with crit multiplier and does crit -> will time rot aligment increase also?

Or only some strict multi like more damage / more void damage count only for increasing time rot?

waxen nymph
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Its only applicable More Dmg

velvet leaf
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and skill added effectiveness ?

waxen nymph
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For exemple

  • More Dmg
  • More Dmg over Time
  • More Void Dmg
waxen nymph
velvet leaf
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hm.. thanks

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actually almost all nodes in erasing strike are more damage, so they should scale time rot very good

simple reef
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ES has a 9.45 tree multiplier (applicable to dots)

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in comparison javelin was 15.36

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so you're looking at roughly 2/3rds of jav dmg

silk wasp
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Saying Time Rot has summoned him

velvet leaf
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I have some build in mind, if it works - it should do damage close to jav. I will test it first ofc

simple reef
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let me know what you come up with

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what i've found so far is you can either go with the primordial relic instead of SW and that gives you an extra 25% dmg (the one that boosts your idols by 60%)

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rest of the build is the same

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or you can go with the set primordial ring and dual-wield the set sword (i mean, exalted with set shard) with a weaver sword off-hand

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and if you can get some decent affixes on the weaver, the rest of the build is actually quite budget friendly since you're not pressured to stack so much dex when you're not using BBC

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sims i've ran had set bonus end up around 100mil dmg for 12 stacks of rot, BBC had 120mil but is much harder to gear

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we're pretty far from the OG 250mil dmg in 1.2 but you know, now we can call it "balanced" 🙂

velvet leaf
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I have a crazy and maybe not working idea (I am noob).
But i will give it a try 😄 It's
interesting to test it myself

Already wasted 2 days on that idea

simple reef
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what's your idea? if you don't mind

unborn cypress
peak zodiac
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frenzy belt strength stacking time rot omegalul

simple reef
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ya so that's dogshit

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cant say it didnt cross my mind tho kekw

peak zodiac
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wdym you get to take 100% increased damage, surely it must be good omegalul

simple reef
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i mean

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i literally don't care about that part

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it just doesn't do dmg

peak zodiac
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nah i’m memeing that belt is just so funny to me

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i wonder how high you can get increased damage taken

simple reef
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the belt is pretty fricking insane damage

peak zodiac
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to yourself

simple reef
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for melee builds

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or lich at least

peak zodiac
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the ultimate softcore belt

simple reef
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yeah

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expecting 100-200mil dummy dps using that belt with flay

peak zodiac
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bilibili gamers gonna oneshot uber with that belt with 250% increased damage taken and 800 hp for sure

simple reef
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ya ima do that too

peak zodiac
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true

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if only you could get increased effect of frenzy on cursed veterans boots

simple reef
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lol

silk wasp
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If the Shrapnel node of Ring of Shields is supposed to deal Physical damage, why does the sub skill it points to show fire damage? 🤔

tribal basin
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Its also doing Minion Spell damage with the other node

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Its too scuffed

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Why would anyone scale Minion Spell damage on FG

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there is 1 other application and that is Manifest Armor

silk wasp
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Shrapnel is also spell damage. For some reason. And the only way to give it flat spell is from the suffix for minion spell damage on certain weapon types or like a single weaver idol bonus on orante and huge idols

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Spell MA is probably actually good since you can give it a staff

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RoS is just baffling all the way down

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The Sturdy and Defensive Shields nodes are good at least

sullen jolt
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looking at athe shield charge build - shield charge does way less dmg then shield bash, doesnt it?

silk wasp
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Taking 3 points in Amass pushes the shields outside the range where they can actually buff you 🤔 But if you take Displacement they cluster close enough to catch you if you don't move

alpine canopy
fair hollow
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Spell MA calcs

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not the highest single target build but great clearing and verry tanky

silk wasp
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Now do spell RoS

fair hollow
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they dont have enough multipliers

silk wasp
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They don't have enough anything

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I wish Martyr Shields proc'd phalanx and sturdy shields

lean swift
simple reef
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i mean of course

silk wasp
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You can get some fat block effectiveness from Shield Crafter by having Displacement and Enduring Defense

lean swift
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Still waiting for new broken one shot build in 1.3 someone cooks

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And my bets are on lich

simple reef
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i dont think lich really has any hard hitting stuff? i could be wrong

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but there's definitely more of a focus on repeated amounts of smaller dmg

turbid dome
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theres gonna be a goofy co-op strat where everyone just applies a ton of bleed and the new blood tether thing does giga damage

quiet hearth
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Oh Engi, did you see my thing about the Tren boosted Trex?

quiet hearth
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It's a steroid

turbid dome
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I saw that the roar has like a 100% uptime

turbid dome
quiet hearth
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But I realized you could scale three stats to 100 with the rex, so now I'ev been looking around to see who all has the best team boosts

waxen nymph
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Do you have a planner ?

quiet hearth
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Not yet, working on a Pally right now though

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What ally boosting effects do we have in sent? Im not really a minion person so Im flailing in the dark a bit here

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I know symbols and holy aura

waxen nymph
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Javelin Banner gives Inc Dmg per Att

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Which is also Crit Multi

sudden sigil
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shield throw has some bouncy stuff and anomaly

quiet hearth
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Yeah, but the jist is you use Cleaver Solution, and boost Str and whatever 3rd stat you want from there, so in our case Attunement

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you can hit 100 in all three with just t5s pretty much

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We've got molten infusion with VC, not sure if that's worth DW abby sceptre though

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We'd only have the one big guy though, does the rex just single target?

silk wasp
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It has a tail swipe that I think is AoE but it’s on a cooldown

naive chasm
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Kinda wanna try thorn build on sentinel do you think FG would be ideal?

turbid dome
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yeah ring of shields goes brrr

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and just forge guard in general for that

deft token
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What on sentinel makes it so you can wield a 2H wep and a shield? I'm trying to find it but can't

naive chasm
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should be FG I think

deft token
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yeah i looked at al passives, but can't find it 😭

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im blind

turbid dome
naive chasm
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Forgemaster's might

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last one top

deft token
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ah i see now, thank you lmao

turbid dome
deft token
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that means Primal Cadence is kind of goated for forge guard summoner right?

misty kestrel
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Anyone ever get a crit forge strike build going?

quiet hearth
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Yep, it's a pretty big number ngl

tardy mirage