🔱┃sentinel

[quasi forum]

I don't use Time Rot (directly, anyway...Isn't it a DoT you inflict with Echoing skills?)

[turbid dome]

It’s a dot you inflict with any skill

Echos included

They gave it a metric ton of extra scaling because it’s capped at 12 stacks on one dude

Might of been a little much

[quasi forum]

6 or 8 sounds more reasonable

So I guess that answers my other question, "how essential is it for your damage output?"

[waxen nymph]

In time Rot builds?
Very essential

In other builds? Not so much

It has a few case of dmg support

Nodes like this use time Rot as a way to multiply your dmg

[quasi forum]

Neat

[forest kelp]

[silk wasp]

thicc armor

[turbid dome]

Given in to the gamba

Reroll those exalted affixes

Surely it will hit exactly what you want

[pseudo parcel]

[mental flare]

all failed nemesis slams T_T

[forest kelp]

If it's just 1lp, I have a little trick

[forest kelp]

2nd

Luck or badluck?

[unborn cypress]

Is there anything I should be wary of following the maxroll build for judgment paladin?

[waxen nymph]

Small aoe and mid dmg

[forest kelp]

Armor with 17 mana gained and sword with t7 attack speed as soon as possible

[forest kelp]

Add 3 more SW 2lp to make a sacrificial item

[gleaming pine]

what's your trick?

[forest kelp]

I’ve picked up a lot of red rings, and when they drop, they’re always 1lp

[uneven gorge]

The trick is regular blood sacrifices to Judd

[onyx plover]

Any new player friendly groups? New to these types of games. Would be Awsome to ask dumb newb questions lol

[final granite]

Left or right?

[forest kelp]

Right

[final granite]

Because of the armor shred?

[forest kelp]

The base roll is much better, melee lightning damage is also melee, and it deals damage too, just doesn't scale with skills that have different tags

[final granite]

Oh

[forest kelp]

The left side is truly pathetic

[final granite]

🤣 🤣

[fresh maple]

i don't understand how to get dark world splitter
like which map shoulld i grind?
( i am new, i started playing last week, and i am level 78 rn but with baaaaad gear and i wanna get gear )

[waxen nymph]

World Splitter is a boss drop

You can only obtain it by killing the proper boss

[fresh maple]

i saw somewhere this explanation

[waxen nymph]

Its the Harbinger that appears after killing Rayeh

Yup

[fresh maple]

right, but where is it in the worlds 😭

i am so confused

which area level is it

[waxen nymph]

The Harbinger that appears after killing Rayeh

Its a Monolith boss fight

Black Sun

[fresh maple]

so you are saying

that i shound grind the 3rd quest over and over and over, right?

sorry for noob questions

[waxen nymph]

Yup but you need to be in empowered for the harbinger to come out

[fresh maple]

i am trying to learn

ummm wait

[waxen nymph]

No worries

[fresh maple]

In weaver tree buy:
Woven riches
Loomed riches

[waxen nymph]

If you dont know , you dont know

[waxen nymph]

??

[fresh maple]

umm i think i saw in youtube short

that i gotta buy specific items from this shop in order to make it better

But, i don't have the specific items in the shop here idk!

[waxen nymph]

These are Nodes in the Weaver Tree

Like the Faction Tree

[fresh maple]

oh okay i will search for somewhere to read about it

1more question

[waxen nymph]

Sure shoot

[fresh maple]

so how do i get the empowered?

is it level 100 monoliths ?

[waxen nymph]

Its the lvl 100 monos

[fresh maple]

oh

so what would you do if you were in my spot

[waxen nymph]

And you unlock them by finishing the 3 lvl 90

[fresh maple]

just continue playing, leveling, and worry about gear later?

[waxen nymph]

Go finish the normal monos

Then come back to Black Sun in empowered and farm World Splitter

[fresh maple]

which build are you doing?

omg ty for al the help 😭

you are so nice, i appreciate that

[waxen nymph]

I have just stopped playing for the season, and I did quite a few builds

[fresh maple]

fair fair 🙏

OKAY LAST QUESTION,
i am really struggling with loot filters, i tried to create one according to the maxroll explanation, and it was really hard for me and i kinda gave up 😭
i am level 70 and i am trying to do erasting strike void knight, any chance you got a loot filter ready to copy + paste?

it took me like 3 hours and read and try to understand everything, and i kinda can't do it anymore

[waxen nymph]

Pretty sure Maxroll has lootfilter ready to use

[fresh maple]

i felt like it filtered everything, i didn't even get shards, glyphs or whatever it's name is idk!

[waxen nymph]

But if you want to learn how to do your own, the most important is to remember this
The rule at the bottom should be "hide all items"
And then you add "show" or "recolor"

[waxen nymph]

You cant filter shards , glyphs and runes

However you can disable item labels

Usually it happens with Alt + Z

[fresh maple]

OH

I PRESSED ALT+Z TO OPEN MY NVIDIA OVERLAY
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY

Okay, okay, i understand now

ty so very much, have a great dayyyy

[waxen nymph]

You should remove that key bind in game

[fresh maple]

any where i can write good feedback on your help? idk how it works

[fresh maple]

i will look into it now

[waxen nymph]

This one

[fresh maple]

yepp done

[pseudo parcel]

[forest kelp]

Ok let go create new char

[warped night]

void smite/devouring orb?

[waxen nymph]

Just Dorb I believe

The one Cursedboy posted a few days ago

[warped night]

this one?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[warped night]

ah nice

surprised to not see abyssal orb specced. that one upped my sustained dps in my limited experience with spell vk

[waxen nymph]

Abyssal Orb doesn't benefit from the 200%More Dmg from the Orbiting orbs

[warped night]

I know, but even so it felt like my overall sustained dps went up

may have been better off spending points elsewhere though. I haven't played that build much

[mental flare]

INFO PLEASE

lmao

[forest kelp]

it is in game content

[mental flare]

letsss gooo nemesis

[forest kelp]

Imprint it

[mental flare]

yep

rinse and repear

peat*

[cerulean sorrel]

turtle it

[turbid dome]

surely turtle will bless you with a 4 lp red ring

[jolly bough]

I need to farm a T7 affix..

I have bad luck with it.

[turbid dome]

🙏

[mental flare]

the only reliable way to find double exalted is spamming nemesis tower right?

[turbid dome]

if you want an exalted in the sealed slot yes, still a good way overall to get them

otherwise just high corruption, or imprints (but like you need one first)

[mental flare]

what's the minimum c in that case?

[turbid dome]

that entirely depends on a lot of factors

roughly it should be somewhere around 300-400 corruption for it to not be super rare

not sure how some affixes being uncommon/rare/very rare affect that

[alpine canopy]

Yup, and imprint them when you do get them

High corruption does improve nemesis empower odds for exalted items, too

[mental flare]

true

[forest kelp]

Forgot to save the new filter and then restored Windows, now it takes some time to recall

[forest kelp]

Only by playing this build do I have a chance to use the staff mtx

[pseudo parcel]

This game needs more cosmetic mtx tbh

I want to give EHG money but there isn't much to spend on

[forest kelp]

I once told them to take my money, but EHG wasn't very enthusiastic about it at the time. I hope after they were acquired, they'll be more proactive 😆

[pseudo parcel]

I bet you Krafton is very enthusiastic about your (and everyones) money

[sharp osprey]

Theres like a single matching mtx set that includes weapons :x

[pseudo parcel]

I know right?

It's very expensive over there but I accumulated multiple matching sets (including weapons!) in PoE

Feels very fun for me to pick a skill, get a matching armor / weapon going and then blast away

[forest kelp]

Clear Echo 2k2 is very fast, just run, but fighting the timeline boss is extremely slow

[mental flare]

pob?

[waxen nymph]

https://youtu.be/Tq2zINCcTQ8

[mental flare]

how is the survivability in 2kc without block?

one shot or being one shotted?

[waxen nymph]

Impair the Weak really isnt savalgable

[forest kelp]

don’t know, but I can dive into the middle of champion and rare mob packs and clear them easily

[mental flare]

nice

[uneven gorge]

nice

[turbid dome]

134 vitality,

a man after me own heart ❤️

[slate orbit]

Anyone know if multiple instances of Ravaging Aura stack?

[alpine canopy]

No, you can't have multiple instances

[warm rivet]

this class got a mindless echo farm build? fast clears minimal button clicking

[pseudo parcel]

Yeah, WP VK or Paladin, ES VK, Smite VK, Shield Charge FG, Smite or Bleed Hammerdin

[reef dawn]

I love me some mindless warpath VK spin to win and has decent aoe clear

[mental flare]

i needed this weird combination for a build and i hit it 2nd try with 2lp

[slate orbit]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9bZLNZB
rough draft of aberoth's command timerot VK with the new set primal ring. idk if ravaging aura will be good but 350% effectiveness got me interested with the full set bonus. obv Opal Ring just standing in for Primal unique for now. criticism / ideas welcome

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (77) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,349, Regen: 51.6/s
▸ Mana: 223.51, Regen: 11.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 42 Str / 16 Dex / 16 Int / 24 Att / 92 Vit
▸ Resistances: 89% / 71% / 71% / 109% / 88% / 136% / 110%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 111%, Threshold: 1,431
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (76)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,890)

Used skills:

Devouring Orb / Void Cleave / Anomaly / Abyssal Echoes / Symbols of Hope

[slate orbit]

stacking vit for red ring and for the 10% more global multi in DevOrb tree

could change some affixes around once get shattered worlds

[waxen nymph]

Which skill is supposed to apply Time Rot?

[slate orbit]

void cleave and dev orb

[waxen nymph]

In Dev Orb you have taken no more dmg (very little)

In Void Cleave there are again very little More Dmg that can apply to Time Rot

You also take pts in armor shred

That does nothing for DoT

[slate orbit]

yeah forgot to remove the shred and put it in Into the Depths. ty

[waxen nymph]

I really don't think this is a good concept

To give you an idea the best TR builds are Javelin that has inside the skill itself 300% More Dmg and 100% More Dmg and DOrb but with the big one that gives TR like 500% More dmg

Your setup has like what 50% in VC

[slate orbit]

Was trying to leverage Ravaging Aura for single target but maybe it just doesnt scale hard enough

[waxen nymph]

Ravaging Aura doesnt deal a lot of dmg

[slate orbit]

I've played a lot of Jav yeah. I'm assuming it's going away

[waxen nymph]

Probably yeah

Or least it will get its dmg greatly reduced to be at a reasonable lvl

No more One shot

[alpine canopy]

Rav aura builds gotta pop repeating abyssal echoes to have any decent single target

[waxen nymph]

Yeah
It's a Spell
The synergy with an ailment is limited, even if they share the same types

[slow plaza]

that's why today I cut out the middle man and just played Abyssal Echoes instead

thats literally today's video lmao

[slate orbit]

what about using Erasing Strike to apply timerot? 600% base effectiveness

[slow plaza]

so the base eff does not affect timerot

or ailments

[slate orbit]

i thought the base effect was the whole reason Jav TR worked like it does

[slow plaza]

no

its the generic more damage modifiers

that care

nodes like this

[slate orbit]

yeah my bad i was confusing multiple things with the wrong names lol

[slow plaza]

nah your all good EHG made it confusing

at least if you come from PoE

[slate orbit]

ok so generic dmg modifiers on skill. ES doesnt seem to work. Hammer Throw looks like you can get quite a bit

[waxen nymph]

You got those 2

[ashen wolf]

Is Phantom Grip fixed now?

[waxen nymph]

What part?

[ashen wolf]

The one that applied all your gear pieces to FW, instead of gloves only

[waxen nymph]

That was fixed for 1.2, wasn't it?

[ashen wolf]

dunno

[waxen nymph]

Pretty sure it was in 1.2 patch notes

[glossy wasp]

does anyone know if a ricochet off yourself is considered being hit for the armor when hit Forge Guard stat?

[alpine canopy]

No, it is not a hit (Sorry for double ping, just saw you got an answer elsewhere)

[polar spire]

how does abyssal echoes fare without old VR for mana sustain? Old VR Abyssal spammer as a support build that healed 5000 a second was so much fun for me

[pseudo parcel]

Wish it was next week already

[turbid dome]

[alpine canopy]

but this week is hype week

We about to start the real game here in 16 minutes - theory crafting!

[forest kelp]

377c, wtf? 💀

[mental flare]

i knew "primal hunt" was familiar (new season encounters)

LETSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

the shield looks amazing

[turbid dome]

[pseudo parcel]

[quiet hearth]

Im gonna say it, the rune of evo is a mistake, t8s will bring too much power and the ceiling is already stupid high

[fair hollow]

its only 1 t8 per char so should be fine

[forest kelp]

It’s definitely designed for legacy players

[dense tendon]

is anyone even gonna use primordial exalted over the uniques

[mental flare]

it's sealed so you cant slam it on uniques

looks perfectly balanced

sentinel belt and helmet stonks

[sudden sigil]

so we're all doing t8 reduced damage taken on block right

[waxen nymph]

T8 Reduced Channel Cost

[mental flare]

T8 hybrid health on belt

[waxen nymph]

Infinite Channel

[uneven gorge]

Imo it's just adding some more power to exalts so not all the endgame builds are completely legendaries, and you can actually think about exalts other than leonine all the time

[sudden sigil]

but really its gotta be move speed right

gotta zoom

[quiet hearth]

It's still gonna be leonine dont lie like that, we need a complete base rework to push that thing out xD

[turbid dome]

Never forget increased health > hybrid health

[uneven gorge]

Wait, can experimental affixes be t8?

[dense tendon]

they probably won't make t8 move speed that much better

[turbid dome]

I’d assume so @uneven gorge

[uneven gorge]

Spicy

[dense tendon]

wait actually uniques have more movement speed already nvm

[turbid dome]

The real question is what skill can make use of more skill levels

[mental flare]

that's the % right? i have all my idols with that so in my case i get more with flat life T8 but i know i will not get it ever

[quiet hearth]

I guess I d have to reserve judgement until I see how high they can roll, I just dont think it's gonna be healthy overall.

[mental flare]

javelin

[forest kelp]

It really brings to mind the Rune Prison complex

[turbid dome]

[turbid dome]

Yeah belts are the only spot hybrid and %increased can be on the same item

[uneven gorge]

Cinder strike

[dense tendon]

t8 endurance

[pseudo parcel]

[sudden sigil]

also because its an auto-sealed affix it'd be good for getting 3 prefixes/suffixes you'd want when it'd be normally tough to fit

[quiet hearth]

That and how rare the rune itself is gonna be

[sudden sigil]

get your health hybrid health and health belts ready

[analog steppe]

the rune isnt rare, its purchased from interacting with the hunt system right

[mental flare]

rarer than havoc (?

[pseudo parcel]

nah

[analog steppe]

it was in the shop thingy

[waxen nymph]

Just need to see how expensive it is

[pseudo parcel]

It's meant to be toyed with so expect it to be quite accessible

[quiet hearth]

Right, but how often will we see the shop, is it guaranteed to be in the shop each time, how hard is it to getthat currency to buy it, the price ect

[waxen nymph]

Everytime there is a beast rift

[uneven gorge]

1 morbillion trex eyeballs pls 🤗

[waxen nymph]

For the rest I dont know

[dense tendon]

damn just realized you cant havoc the t8 after

[quiet hearth]

Right, that's my point, we dont know enough yet to say how common it will be

[gusty abyss]

probably similar to a primal unique

and since it reads like they will be mutually exclusive

[pseudo parcel]

You can only wear one of these so the rune itself won't be giga rare. Doesn't make sense otherwise.

[gusty abyss]

your first t7 will be easy t8, but so is slamming a t7 into your build defining unique

the doubke t7, hitting the right one into t8 and then crafting the open slot to t5, that will be the challange

[dense tendon]

the question is how often are you gonna have enough fp to make a 8/5/5/5/5

[mental flare]

are you ppl using a the standard or joining the new league? it's reaching lvl 10 on woven and guild faster on current/new league?

[pseudo parcel]

Nah, league. I need my soft reset else I'm done in a few days

[gusty abyss]

8/7/6/5/5/1+

[dense tendon]

wait arent primordial 2h weapons gonna be insane

[waxen nymph]

T8 2h you mean ?

[gusty abyss]

Well, they are competing with some very solid uniques

[waxen nymph]

Now lets double the flat again for Rive 😄

[warped night]

gonna be pretty difficult to compete with existing uniques though

[gusty abyss]

The real question, would a t8 set affix even be competitive compared to the primal ring of royal grandeur?

[warped night]

doubtful

that one feels like the biggest miss to me

feels weird that uniques and exalts share the same primordial limitation

[gusty abyss]

at least primordial exalted boots should be competitive against blood of the exile

[warped night]

if all you're looking for is MS then yeah, but there's a lot of good boots

seems like experimental affixes can be primordial too

[waxen nymph]

Primal Speed + Citadel boots > BANGER

[mental flare]

i will still chose vaion boots or the crit multi ones tbh

[gusty abyss]

So, question is, is this just a reskin, or will it be similar?

[mental flare]

hard to hit lp3on those tho

[waxen nymph]

From what I have been said, its a temp asset

From CT

[gusty abyss]

I am guessing that is true for all the reskins then?

[waxen nymph]

This is what my pinkie told me indeed

No primal static shell

[gusty abyss]

But 22 from shop + some from the beast hunt. If all new uniques are primal then that is at least more than 1.2

[analog steppe]

i think the shop is the beast hunt, the beasts drop mats you trade for the uniques

[analog steppe]

ah neat

thats a ton of new items then

[gusty abyss]

I am really hoping something catches my "I want to build around that" this time around.

[waxen nymph]

Why? You'll end up playing Spin to Smite anyway

😏

[tribal basin]

It will be healing hands stuff again

[gusty abyss]

but that was 0.9's vortex pennant, I need my next build this time around xD

[analog steppe]

all three of the ones shown are pretty cool already

[turbid dome]

I wana see a primordial apathy’s maw that’s just even more flat void dmg

[waxen nymph]

😮

[gusty abyss]

But Vlad, I did play spin to cast in the TQ2 EA xD

[uneven gorge]

I can't wait for the 'Falconer does 10x more damage' primordial'

[turbid dome]

[gusty abyss]

I think the falcon resets a lot, so it probably is not gonna be the t-rex shout doing it

[waxen nymph]

Everytime it uses a new ability its a new falcon

But maybe they changed it since they removed Snapshot

And that was a tech to prevent snapshot

[turbid dome]

That makes so much sense coding wise

[gusty abyss]

or that is how they fix snap shotting for other minions, every attack rechecks its stats

[turbid dome]

I guess they could pull an aoe2 and have units swap constantly but that sounds taxing math/processing wise

[silk wasp]

What're the odds T8 block% on shield is like 52% 👀

[turbid dome]

They said 50%-100% stronger on average

So 50/50 it’s either that much or it’s not

[silk wasp]

I'd use an 80% block Ironglass

[gusty abyss]

Skills looked to be 50%, the rest looked like 100%

[turbid dome]

Tbh

At that point dawn shield would be better

[gusty abyss]

But not every type of affix was visible in the teaser

IE reduced damage taken on block gets stronger to more you have of it, it would warrant a limited 50%

[turbid dome]

Yea

[mental flare]

let me guess, c++?

[turbid dome]

No I think aoe2 (at least before the remaster, idk there) was mostly assembly

[mental flare]

i mean you, sounded like you work with code

[turbid dome]

Oh

Yea I’m a computer scientist

[mental flare]

niceee

[pseudo parcel]

different times, using assembly was probably faster for their specific use case

inline assembly was also pretty common back then

I remember wrestling that shit for the ARM7 (and arm thumb assembly) back in the early 2000's for the GameBoyAdvance

[turbid dome]

Yea

I enjoy just having assembly open on my work computer to mess with my co-workers

[pseudo parcel]

[turbid dome]

As the only computer scientist on the team Im on it makes me chuckle

Why yes those 30 lines are an if statement

[pseudo parcel]

[mental flare]

i hate assembly so much

not more than js tho

[pseudo parcel]

Javascript can go F itself

honorable mentions go to php

[mental flare]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[turbid dome]

[turbid dome]

so aparently you can T8 set affixes

take like 0 void dmg on block vk time?

[mental flare]

there is one of health regen per strenght too

looks like it will require some balance in the short run

[unborn cypress]

Im playing a Judgment Pally with Countenance of Majasa - is that still the best shield for this build for the Uber Abby fight?

[mental flare]

for bosses do not look better than the uhkeiros one

for mobs 100%

but it's hard to get the same lp's as majasa

[unborn cypress]

I see

[mental flare]

do not slam anything tho, new shield incoming

may be better

😄

(if you are playing in standard like me)

[terse hedge]

he already said some affixes will be closer to 50% increase

[mental flare]

the only way to increase shield bash AS is with the attack speed node?

[unborn cypress]

Is there a way to cheese Uber abberoth as time rot javelin VK?

[slate orbit]

Yes you can 1 shot him

[alpine canopy]

Okay, anyone think we can do something silly with merophage?

It's not 100% sure, but Mike seems to think we can get 8 shards from shattering a primordial exalt... which would mean we can get 8 shards from shattering a two hand sword
edit - Mike said he's going to make sure we can't do this now 😔

Hmm... maybe it's more of a lich kind of weapon

[unborn cypress]

Is it just the normal time rot build i will find on line or does it require a specific setup?

[serene bough]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/om0aK5nB so i am making this build not to be good but because i find the scrap node cool and was wondering do echos inherit the chance to spawn forged weapons because 100% echo chance and some attack speed might beat the duration i get from forged knight

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (15) / Forge Guard (53) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,838, Regen: 44.8/s
▸ Mana: 148.41, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 32%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 156 Str / 16 Dex / 16 Int / 6 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 54% / 81% / 81% / 88% / 90% / 124%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 66%, Threshold: 718
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (64)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 80% (13,417)

Used skills:

Rive / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Forge Strike / Rebuke

[twilit valley]

1 shot timerot build is different to the timerot build on maxroll . Few slight item changes and different skill nodes and passives from the maxroll guide .

Also tbh it’s not easy to accomplish if you don’t have the right items with max stats needed , might take a week or 2 to get them

[daring lion]

Anything new for Forge Guards this season? I wanna do something else that isn't multi strike Forge wep this time around XD

[uneven gorge]

Do multistrike bleed

[silk wasp]

Do Lava Burst Shield Throw

[terse hedge]

Ignite Smelter's Wrath with the new Primal unique amulet (Wildfire Embers)

[alpine canopy]

We don't know yet. Looks like some of the new primordial uniques could be usable; I see a 1h mace, shield, spear, and 2h axe (or mace?). Also some body armors and helms, which could also be interesting, depending on what they are.

Oh yeah, the ignite thing is one as well. Tyrant's skull is another thing, but that will probably lead you to forged weapons again.

[silk wasp]

Tyrant Skull Spell Manifest Armor

Oh the roar is physical nvm that's more terrible than I thought when I said the joke

[alpine canopy]

melee physical, at that

[silk wasp]

Says spells and attacks

[alpine canopy]

Well, this part anyway

and the phys pen

[unborn cypress]

Is the build on LE Tools?

[twilit valley]

Not sure , a few people who 1 shot with time rot have different variations of the build but most use armor exsang with +7 spell dmg and amulet apostates with 14% more dmg to bosses

[gleaming pine]

timerot 1 shot isn't achievable by your average player. you need a lot of investment. swarmblade and falconer 1 shot, easily doable with single t7 affixes

[twilit valley]

Think you need also like 68-92% cdr , anomaly - void cleave - jav - anomaly

If your starting now to try to 1 shot with timerot it would be very difficult finding all the best gear needed , it’s quite hard to get max dmg

[twilit valley]

Season 3 looking good , going to a great to see all the new builds that players come up with , especially the new t8 gear that will be on some of the builds . And having just 1 on a hero is also a good thing I think ..

Looking forward to many more hours of LE for season 3

[unborn cypress]

Can you link the falconer build?

[gleaming pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOKCnb7IMDg

[forest kelp]

Dragon scale cloak

[unborn cypress]

How are the dusk shrouds being generated in this build? I can't seem to replicate the effect

[gleaming pine]

continue in rogue chan

[polar spire]

Do forge strike bleed

Do multistrike forge strike bleed

Im feelin bleed forge strike again, i wanna see how much stun chance % a T8 will give on a weapon

Though, T8 ele dot on a jaspers for rive/hh pal sounds fun

[terse hedge]

is it more than Sunforged Hammer? it's like 500+%

[polar spire]

yea, T7 is like 550-750%, and then they said a T8 is a 50-100% multiplier on it

so thats like 800-1000% - 1000-1400%

[terse hedge]

oh wow ok that's a big DoT multi

[polar spire]

yea ive always gotten my bleed FS builds to like 2000% stun chance, so this'll be big

[serene bough]

t7 is 544 so should be 600-850 - 840-1100

depending on the multi on this it would become the worse mod

[polar spire]

wtf was i thinking about that was up to like 750%

oh i was thinking of ele dot on staves

god dammit

which btw, rive/hh jaspers searing pride is a lot of fun

chuck on T7 ele dot

rive's Foe Cleaver doubles it

and then Rive has Projection of War which is a mini spell it shoots out every first hit, and you're using a staff anyways so free damage weeee

no one EVER takes that node on rive

[serene bough]

i was about to say wtf because everyone takes the two hand node but your talking about the spell node

[polar spire]

yea lmao, i almost wanted to make an attack speed spellcaster primarily based on that node

and then chuck in ignites for the ignite consume to phys pen node

[serene bough]

it would work just int stack and go for forged weapons

[polar spire]

already run it on my old jaspers rive/hh build, ive gotten up to 1000c with that, friend took it and ran it under merchants and got it to 2000c, i wanna see if any primordial's make it even stronger.

[serene bough]

which is worse but more spells is the goal so f taht

[serene bough]

see your trying to win my dumbass went here to on hit spell because they get summoned on hit

[polar spire]

i always wish for that skill to be good

but then you wanna know how to make that good?

the 0 skill (well in this case you're using a skill so maybe warpath forged weapon summoning) build where you use pact severance + the vine summoning boots

[serene bough]

use the set for flat lightning per int as it is a int scaling spell

[polar spire]

if they gonna detonate anyways, add in extra pact severance dets

i love that you can run the boots and axe on literally any class and play a 0 skills afk amazon delivery death stranding build

[serene bough]

this is the real node no one picks and i want to try it

to be fair i have never looked at a guide but i don't think i have seen anyone pick it

[polar spire]

naaa you want the REAL node no one takes, but I take while leveling because if how disgustingly overpowered it is?

and then you play rive or warpath

[serene bough]

my gaol is 30 scrap stacks

[polar spire]

this is bugged, has been bugged for about 4+ years now, and they affect you and generate ward on you, even if you're on the opposite end of the map from them

[serene bough]

yeah i don't think anyone cares that there bugged i love that the bear charge still can go out of the map i rember doing that in early beta

[polar spire]

you can run a warpath forge guard lvl 20 into mono's right off the bat because of that node, you get basically a perma 400 damage shield every 10th a second

it caps at 400, but it just STAYS at 400, you take a big chonky hit and like 10th of a second later it shoots back up to 400

[polar spire]

me wishing they'd fix the desync issues so we can finally play spam shield rush and spam rampage again

[serene bough]

I was honestly kinda glad when they were bought out because they really need good upper managment, like there just a bunch of loot lizards in a corner making cool skills ignoring the back dev tool and sever stuff they need to do

[polar spire]

they removed traversal from spam shield rush, but if i remember right, spam werebear still gets it, spam shield rush could shield rush 3-4 times a second, spam werebear can rampage double that amount a second and doesnt lose the traversal tag

but that affix was broken on spam shield rush up until they removed traversal tag on it

[polar spire]

i miss the olden days when shield rush was our best dot applier, but because of desync issues no one can actually run it

well, no one can run it for spamming

[serene bough]

idk my 1gb of upload and download can give it a try i wonder if thats stable enough

[waxen nymph]

Mb

[polar spire]

you are bad

[waxen nymph]

Indeed

[polar spire]

indeef

[waxen nymph]

😭😭

[polar spire]

Pvt. Indeef

Vladeef

vancleef

[waxen nymph]

Indeef

I feel like a Bardiche with T8 Bleed is going to be huge

[polar spire]

Says the one named VLAD

[forest kelp]

I just noticed that the VPN software I'm using supports receiving Twitch drops

[pseudo parcel]

I was thinking the same and strongly consider bleed Hammerdin in HC

[waxen nymph]

Would work with a Bardiche

Well...

Bardiche implicit it specifically for melee hit

[elfin adder]

Hey guys, I'm just back with my paladin judgement 94 and I don't remember exactly how end game work and what should I do ?

I guess my goal is to up my stuff, get the same items with more PL and use exalted for that.

There a end game guide maybe somewhere ? ie IDK if I have to push corruption first or farm a specific things ...

Thx in advance

[pseudo parcel]

Maxroll has a decent Judgement guide that guides you to everything you might want to farm, and where to get it

[elfin adder]

yeah i'm following this guide : https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-paladin-guide#faq-mechanics-header

But because I did a break, I don't remember exactly what I have to do or where should I go

but for now I'm just trying to up the corruption then, I think it shouldn't be bad

[forest kelp]

Prima Legen look cool

Ready pay for it 👍

[mental flare]

the visuals are amazing

https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/the-ancient-era-coming-to-last-epoch-august-21st/78583

i'm not immune to propaganda, i'm hyped

[hallow knoll]

the new water shader genuinely looks really good

[pseudo parcel]

36°C in my office today

send help

[forest kelp]

Where?

[pseudo parcel]

Germany

[forest kelp]

Have few friend at there lol

[pseudo parcel]

supposedly it's getting even hotter the next two days, I legit consider to just call in sick

[pseudo parcel]

yeah its bad, this country is still anti ac for some reason

[forest kelp]

It's 32°C here; air conditioning is an essential item

[pseudo parcel]

I spent a good amount of time in Hungary and basically every household has an ac unit there, it's wild

[quiet hearth]

Yeah no, anything passed 85F inside and Im leaving

[turbid dome]

its 97 F where i'm at (36.1 C)

[quiet hearth]

About that here, Im just inside

[peak zodiac]

are there any ignite shield rush gamers, i’m debating whether the ignite amulet will be worth taking over bleeding heart

[pseudo parcel]

[turbid dome]

air conditioning is the best invention of the modern age

[pseudo parcel]

AC makes Gregory happy

[mental flare]

Celsius gang rise up (almost all of the world)

[terse hedge]

sir I measure everything in football fields

even temperature

[turbid dome]

blame Europe for getting America onto their systems than immediately changing their systems

we can also blame british pirates for capturing the french scientist who was bringing the metric system to the USA

RIP Joseph Dombey

[terse hedge]

screaming eagles can be substituted for football fields when you need a more precise measurement

[turbid dome]

the best way to measure salary/pay is hamburgers per hour

[waxen nymph]

Vengeance + Forge Strike
Use a Clotho Needle

[mental flare]

i'm in to blame the british

[uneven gorge]

as a brit, understandable

[polar spire]

When paladin stops being a better sentinel pet build, sure

Though the new trex helm might help forged weps, since we already have the ring

[silk wasp]

trex is a relic

[terse hedge]

another reason why forge strike needs to be a minion focused skill rather than the hybrid thing it is now

[polar spire]

naaaa, fg just needs an actual minion based skill

i LOVE forge strike for bleed build

an actual minion based skill besides manifest armor

though i'd like to see something that sorta fuses manifest armor with forge strike and makes you summon mini manifest armor's that copy your armors

[silk wasp]

But we have Ring of 15% Block Chance Shields 🙃

[polar spire]

my counterpoint is forge strike should remove all the minion stuff

its so much cooler without it

[silk wasp]

If only FG had a move like that

[sharp osprey]

I love forge guard minions.
I hate using forge strike for minions

[polar spire]

this

forged weapons need their own skill that isnt forge strike

[silk wasp]

I hate needing like 35 points in Forge Strike for the button to both buff my minions and be worth pressing for the damage

[polar spire]

like honest to god just give ring of shields to paladins and then give forge guard an actual forged weapons skill

[silk wasp]

Just throw RoS in the dumpster

[polar spire]

that too

[sharp osprey]

that's why we stick it on paladin.

it don't need it

[polar spire]

like they arent opposed to getting rid of skills, we don't have juggernaut or ephemeral stances anymore

[silk wasp]

Paladin does have an empty spot so sure

[polar spire]

paladin goats crying about getting a hand-me-down from forge guards when they get a new skill

[sharp osprey]

Random tangent, but I'd like to see more necrotic support for forge weapons.
Phantom's grasp suggests they want to go that way eventually. Maybe it could be an on kill triggered skill or smth.

[polar spire]

naaaa, screw that, we out here poppin Foe Cleaver Rive with Mordita's Reach, and summoning forged weapons that deal 500% frostbite on hit while we deal 1000% frostbite

that moment when cold sentinel is a thing

with 0 cold skills

[sharp osprey]

I mean sure.
I just hate phantom's grasp adding necrotic damage when it's literally like anti-theme for what it's used for.

[polar spire]

i think its just extra damage and the point isnt to build around it

its like yulia's path maelstrom on primalist

[silk wasp]

ye

[polar spire]

which you can actually build around, and its really funny when you do

[sharp osprey]

I mean yeah, mechanically I can understand it.
But thematically it just feels wrong.

[polar spire]

yea i get that

theres a lot of items that just offer small flat random af damage you arent supposed to build around besides generics like %minion damage

[terse hedge]

see I would love to use Forge strike for minions, and not a 2 button thing like MS + FS
minion summoning should not require two buttons summon, especially non perm minions

[sharp osprey]

Yeah. Like my manifest armor build uses forge strike.
But I also need to use shield bash to cap my block chance. But then rive summons the minions on bosses. It's 3 buttons for something that should just be forge strike + shield bash

I'm definitely doing something wrong.

[terse hedge]

like imagine if Necros had to use Harvest before summoning Wraiths
kind of the same thing

[sharp osprey]

I think minion on hit or something similar can work.
But it needs a path to being a viable hybrid build.

Not janky minions that just so happen to be procc'd when the skill is used.

[terse hedge]

I mean Forge Strike already has a heafty mana cost and a cooldown you have to spend 5 pts to remove
so it should be the best way to summon forged weapons if you invest pts into it

[silk wasp]

You can use CDless FS to manage minions but you'll run oom and FG can't cheat the mana bar like VK with Void Well so you'd end up using MS/Rive/Veng anyway

[terse hedge]

even if mana was not a concern, which it is. FS is still slower by itself to summon minions than using MS + FS or Vengeance

[sharp osprey]

it just feels jank to me.
Like I prefer how path of exile does it with iron mass skeletons.
You have the minion skill. And a melee/minion buff skill.

There's synergy there and it's only one button while in combat.

---

Basically it's Summon skeletons -> Use smite (which gives an aura that buffs attacks of allies

Edit:
This way you're still using the melee skill. But you're not managing multiple things at once.

[queen glade]

I'm just thinking of the giga ramp my warpath will have if I can get a T8 reduced mana cost on helm😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

multiple screen wide aoe mayhaps

[ripe blade]

Technical question : Does subset of a skill inherit the initial skill scalar like ailments do? Would Ravaging aura benefit from Void Cleave 4% per strength like Ignite would benefit from Smite 4% per attunement for instance? Is it a separate case that only apply to ailment or does subskill also works the same?

[peak zodiac]

there's a couple exceptions but as a general rule yes

[ripe blade]

Such as? 😮

[peak zodiac]

mostly things that have more than one source or are subskills granted by items

[ripe blade]

Thanks!

[alpine canopy]

And yes, specifically rav aura does inherit all modifiers on void cleave, like "more damage" in the skill tree and attribute scaling.

[polar spire]

oh thats right, T8's are 50-100% effectiveness, and T7 reduce mana on helm is already pretty decently high

im just sitting here pondering the T8 resist all while channeling on relic

[alpine canopy]

Mana or traversal cooldown on potion use could be fun T8s

[forest kelp]

Can slam it on unique?

[turbid dome]

That just sounds like the fancy version of ele res while channeling ring

[rare depot]

can i get a carry? going for void knight

[forest kelp]

#👥┃lfg go here to find carry 😁

[tight breach]

Does anyone know if the Smite node in multistrike proc the cast on smite node in healing hands?

[forest kelp]

Nope

[tight breach]

Shame, that would have been fun lol
Thank you

[forest kelp]

It need directly cast smite

Can call it with melee node lol

[tight breach]

Yeah, the wording on the multistrike node is "replace with smite" and it's full cost so figured I'd ask

[forest kelp]

I mean multistrike can call healing hands too

[tight breach]

yeah, just dont take the smite node and you can proc it a lot

[polar spire]

true, but its also all res

[tight breach]

But im just proc ing it off melee and taking the smite, cause smites are fun

[turbid dome]

ye the all res is what makes it fancy

[polar spire]

also just information overloaded my wife about LE and now she's going to join me this season pog

[forest kelp]

Where is Jank?

[polar spire]

i need to see new uniques to make more jank

i hope there are new uniques besides just primordials

theres like what, 23 new primordials or something? I hope theres like at least 5 new normal uniques alongside those

the problem here though, is ive actually gotten people to play my jank builds
you can only have 1 primordial equipped, so people are less likely to play mega jank builds

[forest kelp]

I need to adjust my loot filter to not miss new uniques like in patch 1.2

[alpine canopy]

The primordial ring that counts as a set could be a real jank machine

if not now, maybe in a few seasons when they've finally added more sets

[mental flare]

looks like i'm not getting my second red ring soon

buuuuut...

[sharp osprey]

Now just wait for the perfect quad t7 exalt.

[mental flare]

the quad t7 exalt:
minion dodge rating
potion health converted to ward
stun avoidance

[pseudo parcel]

lore accurate quad exalt

[tardy mirage]

whats that gonna be for? judgment?

[queen glade]

YEP. I was already getting to screenwide with T7. T8 might be insane 🙂

[elfin warren]

You guys think ES VK getting nuked in S3?

[waxen nymph]

Nuked no
Nerfed yes

[hallow knoll]

I really don't think it's broken enough to warrant getting nuked

[waxen nymph]

Yeah, maybe mana cost goes up, dmg effect goes down, or mana consume goes up

[forest kelp]

Killing them for new content?

[compact mantle]

Feel like hammers should be homing.

[sudden sigil]

they home at your cursor

[compact mantle]

Nah like. Piercing + homing.

[austere coral]

I actually would love some minor homing, I use Hammers for leveling before I get Rive and I sometimes miss a target by an inch, cuz I fired at slightly off angle(mostly applies to Sturiax)

And by minor, I mean like 5 degrees deviation from original path

[alpine canopy]

Or void well nerfed some way, like a longer cooldown

[analog steppe]

void well would be my pick for a nerf as well

[mental flare]

stash build probably 😆 i only play physical builds

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, imo it's the root problem with ES atm

ES absolutely should deal a lot of damage considering its cost, theme, etc.

[iron basin]

playing grim dawn got me wanting to try a CD shield throw build again

probably need like forge strike or something to pair it with and rotate CDs

[waxen nymph]

Sure shoot

Online ?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/

Lets see your character

Ok

Hum

For now too many useless uniques

Julra Gloves are not doing anything for you

[iron basin]

falcon fists is pretty common in FW builds, yeah?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[iron basin]

for the flat fire damage

[waxen nymph]

Falcon Fist for Flat and AS

Your Helmet > Exalted Leonine with %Life and Sunforged Set

[iron basin]

I'm more of a forge strike enjoyer than the weapons themselves, so that's about the extent of my minion FG knowledge lol

[waxen nymph]

Amulet > Logi Hunter

Body Armor > Either a Titan Heart and you heal yourself with HH

Or an exalted with the Sunforged set

Or a Pale Ox

[iron basin]

yo the sunforged set is really underrated imo

it's got a lot of power packed into those skill points. a couple of the affixes are strong themselves

[waxen nymph]

I would definitely change your helmet and body armor
They dont offer you any hp

1.3k hp is going to be a problem soon

Look on the ground and kill mobs 😄

You can run the Sentinel loot woven echoes

Honestly any body armor with %Hp would make you tankier than what you have now

Same with Helmet

[iron basin]

Vlad did you ever see where my smelter's wrath build ended up last season? You and a couple other people were helping me with it

[waxen nymph]

Maybe but I dont remember

[iron basin]

@terse hedge

[terse hedge]

nice ty

[iron basin]

i think if you invested more time into it than I did you could get close to one-shotting her. I was phasing aberroth with every blast

[terse hedge]

it's for sure a fun skill, very satisfying to use

[waxen nymph]

I wish they would do smth with Furnace

[iron basin]

yeah playing with the sunforged set got me wondering more about SW and where you could realistically take it

we were actually just talking about Furnace in the acolyte thread lol. I don't really think it's far off from being good

the Area -> Fire DoT multi node is REALLY strong

[terse hedge]

just seems like many useful nodes in SW don't apply to Furnace

[iron basin]

anything that says SW deals more damage, more fire damage, or more fire damage over time all apply to Furnace

it's not a melee subskill so it doesn't inherit any melee more, and it's DoT so it can't crit

[terse hedge]

like Detonation doesn't work, but Burning Patch after Detonation is a spell tag 🤷

[iron basin]

yeah but the burning patch doesn't deal spell damage, just ignites multiple times. dunno if you really need that for a furnace build

[terse hedge]

ooh Furnace doesn't have an attribute scaling tag

[iron basin]

it inherits the tag from SW

subskills inherit most stuff from their main skill tree and tags

they don't inherit conditional multipliers that rely on the enemy's status though which is bizarre as hell, but that's how it works

[terse hedge]

tmyk

[iron basin]

earthquake's chilled/frozen damage multiplier not applying to aftershocks being the best example

so like attribute scaling, more multis that match the subskill type(melee/spell, element, etc), crit modifiers(assuming subskill isn't DoT) should all mostly apply to the subskill as well unless it specifically states that it doesn't

I wish there were more CD reliant builds tbh. It feels like everything scales best when you just remove the CD, given the option

Been playing a shield throw/bash build in Grim Dawn and it made me wanna do the same in LE

[terse hedge]

would the fire pen from fresh from the forge passive in FG tree apply to Furnace damage too?

[waxen nymph]

Inherited from SW

[iron basin]

yeah it should

[terse hedge]

good to know ty

[waxen nymph]

This are the only node that applies to Furnace

[iron basin]

you're not getting a ton of benefit from the melee damage so it's mostly the opportunity cost of points to pen

well there's also the furnace nodes themselves. there's like 200% more damage after the main node

[waxen nymph]

Yeah ofc

[iron basin]

probably something like that as a baseline for a furnace build

[turbid dome]

I’m still sad the more dmg per ignite node is more hit damage

Let me make a really big ignite with smelters wraith

[iron basin]

imagine making your ignites deal more ignite per ignite

[turbid dome]

It’s smelters wraith it would still be mid with that

[iron basin]

I still want a full damaging ailment overhaul. give them all more identity like they did with time rot

let poison be the one you stack to infinity. cap the others, make them higher base damage, and give them more mechanical individuality

[terse hedge]

I just want to be able to slow walk while channeling

[iron basin]

right now damaging ailments that aren't time rot all play the same. "Get lots of stacks"

[iron basin]

honestly I'm kinda fine with it being a channeled skill that rewards good timing. you can get tanky enough during mapping that it's not too big of an issue to just stand still, even up to 400ish c

but finding the time to blast in boss fights is fun

[terse hedge]

if Bolster actually worked it wouldn't feel as bad

[iron basin]

honestly just the armor doubling is enough. bolster being bugged sucks but really doesn't affect it too much

[waxen nymph]

We won

[iron basin]

lesgo

but I can't shield throw while dual wielding

[waxen nymph]

Yes you can

Do you need a Shield for ST ?

Pretty sure you dont

[iron basin]

huh, you're right. I thought itwas like bash and required a shield

[forest kelp]

But dual for what?

🫡

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[warped night]

judgement spam

[waxen nymph]

I love DW

[warped night]

I'm gonna see if I can revive my mixed ignite/crit vengeance & judgement dw pally idea

with the ignite ammy

[iron basin]

yeah I'm with Vlad, DW anything is sick

[waxen nymph]

Taking less Dmg and getting AS /CS is really noice

[warped night]

perhaps a DW multistrike bleed FG

[iron basin]

I haven't actually done anything DW for sentinel yet just because thematically the 2H slam speaks to me

I still want to make my cooldown FS build work at some point but I doubt it'll ever be as good as a builder-spender attack speed FS

which is already pretty mid

[warped night]

could also be useful for DW smite or HH direct cast

transcriber offhand and dragorath's mainhand

[iron basin]

isn't there a DW benefit for warpath?

I'm not a beyblade so I don't know the intricacies of that skill, but that does sound familiar

[mental flare]

death wing

[warped night]

it's DW or 2h, but fire warpath will definitely see the most benefit there

less AS penalty now when using sceptre mainhand for the fire pen

[iron basin]

ah so you get sceptre main, sword oh

[waxen nymph]

I played Phys FG Warpath this season

With 5/5 in Warrior Fury

Was pretty good

[iron basin]

you spin to win players baffle me

I can never get into the playstyle

[warped night]

what did you do for mana?

[mental flare]

true melee

[waxen nymph]

Real fast Rive

[warped night]

ah yeah I've done that with forge strike spam before

warpath is probably a better user though

[waxen nymph]

https://youtu.be/ErXJ4-n8MTA

[iron basin]

what other melee attack would you rotate in with FS assuming you're not removing the CD

[waxen nymph]

Multistrike, Rive or Vengeance

[warped night]

rive my beloved

[waxen nymph]

Ah not removing the CD

:

Multistrike

So you can get more FS

Even on CD

[iron basin]

mmm

[mental flare]

abby with 2.8k takes guts lol

[tribal basin]

How much do we think Pala and VK will get nerfed

[warped night]

regular abby with 2.8k isn't too bad

[iron basin]

probably enough nerfs to bring them down but not enough to delete the builds

[warped night]

surprised you didn't use renegade's will for even more AS tbh

[iron basin]

but the runemaster nerfs speak against that, so who knows

[waxen nymph]

The Weaver mace is so good imo

[warped night]

oh definitely

[waxen nymph]

A ton of Crit Chance and a boatload of Crit Multi

[iron basin]

weaver mace is the one that gives spiders right?

[mental flare]

i have one with 200% crit multi

blessed

got a t7 there

[iron basin]

you know what my favorite part of Forge Strike is as a skill? It has like a billion tags

gets to double dip on logi's hunger and phantom grip

[tribal basin]

Its a Minion Skill

FG is clearly a Zoomancer class

[iron basin]

it's also a physical/fire skill

[tribal basin]

[warped night]

I'd like to try it with renegade's regardless. both warpath and rive scale so well with AS, espeically if you're doing a mana rotation, that I think it's possible to still eek out better results

[tribal basin]

but still bad that its another Skillpoint Tax skill if you wanna use it both for Forged weapns and for damage

[warped night]

cool build though thanks for sharing

[waxen nymph]

Have you seen my Void Cleave ?

[tribal basin]

how much you hit with your VC Vlad ?

[iron basin]

I actually like that it has multiple scaling paths. skills are more interesting when there's not obvious routes for them to scale, and having it scale well when hybrid specced would erase some of that imo

[waxen nymph]

Dummy ?

[iron basin]

where did you last leave it

[tribal basin]

Dummy -86%

[waxen nymph]

I dont remember

Smth like 2-3M on Rayeh

Let me check

[tribal basin]

with Dark Stride and the Abyssal Champion Affix ?

[iron basin]

I got SW to ~10m eventually. it takes absurd setup but it's fun erasing bosses

[waxen nymph]

Eternal Eclipe and Suloron 😄

[tribal basin]

Fire/Void and phat Crit Mult , i see

i always wondered if converted VC would get both Bonis from Eclipse

[waxen nymph]

It does yeah

Afaik its the only skill that can do that

[tribal basin]

i never tested it myself , was instead on teh search for either a Phat Obsidian Axe or something Slamworthy for a LP2 +6 Melle Swordcatcher

[waxen nymph]

27M on the dummy

[iron basin]

huh, it's odd that converted VC gets both bonuses

the conversion explicitly says it loses the void tag

[waxen nymph]

Not fully converted

[mental flare]

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[waxen nymph]

50/50

[iron basin]

is there another conversion somewhere?

[waxen nymph]

The one before

[iron basin]

ooooh

[tribal basin]

There is also the node that adds all Phys bonis to also count as Fire bonis

[iron basin]

I always just thought about the ignite part, didn't realize it had a conversion there

neato

[tribal basin]

it it loses Void Tag , its still weird that Eclipse works

thats why i also didnt bothered with testing it

[iron basin]

it only loses the tag if you take the keystone that fully converts it. the one Vlad posted only converts half

so it keeps the void tag but gains the fire tag

man anytime I try to find a way to play FS like dive bomb or a PoE cooldown slam, it just brings me back to AS scaling somehow

let me delete the screen and move dammit I don't always wanna unga bunga fast

[pseudo parcel]

[waxen nymph]

I had an Abom fight ready

[iron basin]

bonk

[waxen nymph]

I kinda OS that 300C Abom

[iron basin]

bleed FS is something I've wanted to try in the past too

[tribal basin]

that looks about rght , evenif its more than 90% damage reduction

[iron basin]

converting stun chance to in DoT is pretty neat since you can get crazy high stun chance on gear

[waxen nymph]

Dmg Variance, Armor shred stacks variance etc...

[tribal basin]

And bosses move

[waxen nymph]

T8 Stun Chance Bardiche go brrr

[iron basin]

hnngg

Bardiche is an axe type too isn't it?

[waxen nymph]

Yup 2h axe

[iron basin]

free 3/4 bleed stack baby lesgo

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[turbid dome]

Yup

[waxen nymph]

Engi !!

How you doing ?

[turbid dome]

0 sleep last night

At work

🐟

[waxen nymph]

💀

[iron basin]

that's like what, 1000% increased bleed damage on FS?

[pseudo parcel]

[waxen nymph]

Word is out there that melee stun doesnt count

I havent tried it myself

[iron basin]

that does make sense going off the wording, but it makes me sad

all it says is your increased stun chance. melee stun chance isn't the same

i guess you swap to T8 stun chance and then have either bleed chance or hybrid phys pen. probably bleed chance

FS has 145% phys pen for bleed already on the tree

correction, 245%

[warped night]

Sword catcher is great. I use it on my rive + VC VK and it's really solid

[mental flare]

lvl 101 here we go (?

[iron basin]

I believe

do you have sigils just not bound to a key to prevent ever accidentally pressing it

[mental flare]

kinda but no, im moving with wasd AND i never activate sigils so 2x1

[simple reef]

i think you need sigils on the bar or they don't cast

if im wrong then ye just dont put them on the bar

[mental flare]

now you need it

after some update

[silk wasp]

Does Foe Cleaver double the conditional stats on sunforged hammer?

[mental flare]

lmao killed argentus in the first phase so now he is just there, bugged

[iron basin]

ringringringringring

gee I wonder what grind is going on here

someone on reddit tried to convince me that red ring is guaranteed in CoF

i'm just like, "bruh have you SEEN all the complaining about ring prophecies?"

[polar spire]

Other Dual Wield nodes in other classes will also be receiving this treatment: being adjusted to 8% increased damage taken, and granting increased Attack and Cast speed.

ooo todays news

thats big

sent's get 20% increased attack speed/cast speed on the dual wield node

and then the 30% increased attack speed/cast speed on the sword/axe node after

thats YUGE

but thats nice, that dual wield change is a boost to all classes

[silk wasp]

And then 10% from Weapon Master, 24% from Master of Arms and a T8 Aspd roll on weapon for maximum overspeed

[iron basin]

this actually means every base class has one or more masteries that can dual wield now, yeah?

Spellblade, Rogue, Lich, Primalist, Sentinel

yeah

neato

[ripe blade]

My dumb questions had a motive behind them

I've dusted and worked a bit further my idea for a ravaging aura centric build. If anyone is interested to discuss / bring suggestions to help out, shoot away!
The idea is to maximize Vitality, Void damage, Spell damage and damage over time in that order to scale the aura and void cleave as much as possible.
Gameplay would be to warpath for movement since no transversal + block chance, +80% to VC, proc orbs and rifts : VC to refresh aura. Anomaly on cooldown for bubble / rares.
Tentative gear shown. Obviously there's several upgrade possible but I kept the stuff from Uberroth out for now + thing that will require a lot of farming ( LP3 decayed skull, Null portent, etc. )
Time rot is used as a defensive debuff. Frailty is fine but armor shred is lacking. Gears upgrades with +skills (nilh, shatter) would help to round up some holes.
Currently, on average, at 94% block chance while spinning. Points can be moved to alliviate mana issues once I get to play test it.

To do : complete gear setting, figure out idols, fix resists (idols+unused gears affixs), reach 100% block while spinning.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QbRdkO5Q

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (87) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (3)

General:

▸ Health: 4,067, Regen: 44.8/s
▸ Mana: 124.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 12 Dex / 12 Int / 12 Att / 111 Vit
▸ Resistances: 99% / 10% / 75% / 56% / 54% / 147% / 121%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 57%, Threshold: 893
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (189)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 57% (3,979)
▸ Block Chance: 74%, Mitigation: 49% (1,926)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 91%

Used skills:

Warpath / Void Cleave / Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb / Anomaly

[polar spire]

ah yes the good ol "i'm making a possible jank build. WHAT IDOLS DO I USE FOR THIS!?"

also hey if the resists are all 50%+ you're fine there

go focus on other defensives

hell if you want you could just slap a sealed resist all while channeling on a relic

[iron basin]

i tried a ravaging aura build last season. you can use volatile reversal as a traversal skill

it can also cast abyssal echoes for you, pull your devouring orbs, make enemies take more void DoT

you shouldn't need any armor shred since you're a void DoT build anyway

I would put at least one more point into the ravaging aura node on void cleave so you can keep decent uptime on bosses. 4s cd and 1s uptime in single target is not fun

[ripe blade]

Doesn't armor shred increase dot damage nonetheless? I'm uncertain about it scaling past 500 corrupt

[iron basin]

no

armor only affects damage from hits

[ripe blade]

Aberroth commands covers uptime twice over tbh

[iron basin]

DoT is specifically not hit

completely forgot about the duration bonus

u rite

i just remembered the bubbles and didn't think about how it was the sceptre making them so long

this node doesn't affect the ravaging aura

ravaging aura is a subskill of void cleave, so it doesn't inherit conditional damage modifiers based on the target's status

[polar spire]

is this one of those shenanigans where it affects VC but not the ravaging subskill?

[iron basin]

yeah

[ripe blade]

The pink names said otherwise yesterday when asked since ravaging is not a true skill though

[polar spire]

sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt every skill is weird

[polar spire]

remember the good ol days when ravaging WAS a true skill

pepperidge farms remembers

[ripe blade]

They said it would scale off VC scalar like the other subskill

If it doesn't this build won't work past 200

[iron basin]

it shouldn't, specifically because it relies on the target being slowed

[ripe blade]

But target will be slowed

[polar spire]

naaaa you'll be fiiiiine, i've made far jankier builds work past 200, you got this 👍

[ripe blade]

between anomaly and orbs firing

[iron basin]

yes I know, but subskills don't inherit scalers that rely on the target's status

same thing with earthquake damage vs chilled and aftershocks

[ripe blade]

oh ffs

[iron basin]

we were talking about that in here earlier with Furnace and Smelter's Wrath's more Fire DoT

[ripe blade]

that's 6 points i get to toss around I guess

[iron basin]

I could very well be wrong, but it would have to be a quirk specifically with Void Cleave and Ravaging Aura

other subskills work the same

[polar spire]

oh yea thats a fun one

[iron basin]

I made a SW big bonk build last season

haven't tried a flamethrower type build with it yet

[polar spire]

the new amulet might be fun with it

[iron basin]

it's a cool skill that doesn't get any attention because it's so awkward to use

[polar spire]

at that point you're just better off running Wrouk's paladin spellcaster manifest armor

[iron basin]

i got 3rd place in perry's set affix build comp

I was disappointed in how many people weren't using full sets in that

[polar spire]

Wrouk's held #1 on the overall leaderboard multiple seasons for multiple weeks with his paladin spellcaster MA. you'd think the devs would take notice and hey, MAKE FORGE GUARD MINIONS BETTER

[iron basin]

yeah but then you're not a blacksmith with a flamethrower

[polar spire]

im still thinkin the new ammy will be it with SW

[iron basin]

that's the ignite prolif one?

[polar spire]

causing lil wisps to spam out multiple smelters wraths

yea i think so

i imagine it'll be fun on forge strike too

[iron basin]

wonder how long the wisps last

[waxen nymph]

5% Chance to proc

[polar spire]

i still want to know if they spawn on fresh ignite ticks, or you need ignites to run out on enemy and then reapply to spawn

[iron basin]

dunno this seems better on ignite locks than for SW

[polar spire]

you say that but then theres stuff like

[iron basin]

you know i never thought about Firestarter's Torch for furnace

[polar spire]

self inflict cursing as a forge guard

[iron basin]

i guess furnace doesn't hit so you'd need something to start the spreading flames

[polar spire]

and then you got the fire/necrotic 2h axe. immolators oblation, and the soulfire relic

self ignite for mega armor

[iron basin]

oblation needs direct spell casts to proc doesn't it?

[polar spire]

its all skill based instead of spell based

[iron basin]

oh neat

it's also not direct uses

[polar spire]

besides the bonus spell damage

[polar spire]

wait you're right

is it multistrike forge strike time

[iron basin]

what's the spell damage effectiveness on Furnace

240%/s

[polar spire]

i ee a 240% and a 120%

[iron basin]

it deals damage every 0.5s

idk how you'd self ignite with enough frequency to capitalize on that spell damage for furnace, but that's a lot of damage

high attack speed vengeance with the fire conversion could maybe work. idk if it converts the riposte too or not

[polar spire]

and then when you lay out the smelters wrath you're required to yell out WAPA-CHANG

[terse hedge]

first time I heard that was in League of Legends like 10 years ago lol

[turbid dome]

I normally say bomba

[polar spire]

yea i went back and looked it up, 14 years ago whew

Grasshyren

[iron basin]

my beard has instantly gone grey realizing that 14 years ago was still over a year after I started league

[turbid dome]

And now their adding Wasd

[polar spire]

i remember being in middle school and people were talking about the beta for league of legends

[iron basin]

yeah I had just graduated high school when my TF2 friends sucked me into it

[mental flare]

fellow elders

[turbid dome]

👴

[iron basin]

gimme bird form in LE EHG

lemme be swain

[mental flare]

youngest cobol programmer

[polar spire]

lemme be quinn

[turbid dome]

Man I wish I could be dealing with cobol

[polar spire]

but nope, instead all we have is Ivern, Khazix, and Udyr/volibear

[turbid dome]

I gotta deal with converting punch cards into python

[turbid dome]

I mean that’s basically falconer

[polar spire]

dont make me get the gas powered stick

[terse hedge]

we need more Bard

[turbid dome]

I’m using wasd controls, good luck hitting the skill shot

[mental flare]

bravest warriors reference?

[iron basin]

honestly, agree. I want more support options in LE

[iron basin]

and reasons to want to play support. my buddy loves aura bots but doesn't wanna get pigeon-holed into paladin

[polar spire]

average sentinel gameplay

[turbid dome]

True melee sentinel gameplay

[iron basin]

literally true with smelter's wrath

charge it up, BONK

[waxen nymph]

Fun fact ; VK used to be the best support for Arena

[iron basin]

because of VR's old damage amp?

[turbid dome]

Vr dmg amp go brrr

[waxen nymph]

VR old Dmg amp + HH metric ton of ward + Anomaly Stun bosses almost perma (with 2/3 VK)

[iron basin]

honestly I think runemaster has the tools for a support character, they're just undertuned

I did a support healing druid for memes last season and it sorta worked

[sullen jolt]

for the league, is shield bash FG is good? I love melee and shield sarchetype

[turbid dome]

The scaling on so many rune invokes is so baadddd

[polar spire]

fun fact, we used to have 3 stances, i think ravaging was one, then there was ephemeral and juggernaut

ravager stance

[iron basin]

it's alright. like most things, it'll clear ab given enough effort

[sullen jolt]

enough effoer..... 🙁

[turbid dome]

Bring back the vk node that gave overleech

I can be trusted with it

[iron basin]

the sword and board version with the unique lets you play a good attack speed version

[polar spire]

HNNNGGGGGGGG

[iron basin]

someone in here was brewing with Event Horizon since it doesn't reduce shield bash's attack speed

[sullen jolt]

are there any meta melee builds, aside form shioeld bash 😉

[polar spire]

that sounds cool, but then like, just use it with melee channeled HH since it hits 4 times per second

[turbid dome]

That sounds like Draven

[iron basin]

Rive is still very good

[turbid dome]

Mmm graphic design

[sullen jolt]

olg noob with skill issues friendly?

[iron basin]

Erasing Strike, Judgement are both melee

[turbid dome]

Rive triggers time and faith so yes

[iron basin]

Rive is just "right click near enemies"

[polar spire]

at that point just play the "im disabled and only have 1 finger that works" warpath build

[iron basin]

it self heals, has a lot of stacking armor, feeds into its own damage with ignite/armor shred

it's good

yeah warpath is also pretty much always playable

[turbid dome]

I think the vk version goes more brrr tho cause you get to stack 200 vitality and be stupid thicc with stupid flat damage

[waxen nymph]

Too good and meta for Draven