🔱┃sentinel

[strange snow]

yeah, think I got those already. I will double-check though

[polar spire]

i love that you can just see a name online and ping it and 9 times out of 10 they'll be in here too

[sonic obsidian]

healing hands/vengeance a decent 2h paladin melee build?

[forest kelp]

Some 2h weapon have block change and block effective

It's just a choice between your damage and tankiness

[waxen nymph]

I would personally go dual wielding

[mental flare]

FINALLY MAN

[verbal vapor]

Had 1 drop but fail slammed 😔

[hollow tulip]

guys how do i sort a loot filter for a sentinel champion affix? i have a god tier champion affix and i want to make sure i never pass by that affix again but i cant seem to sort it in the loot filter. any help?

nvm i figured it out

[silent storm]

Bottom section, personal affixes, all the way down under experimental

[hollow tulip]

you cant craft with those affixs right?

[silent storm]

They're sealed only so nope

90% of those affixes are useless and the few good ones make it so hard to farm a good item that it's a crazy crazy chase item

You have to roll the right purple base, and good affixes in the regular 4 slots (with potentially 1-2 exalted ones) which means that in most cases the sealed champion affix must be so good that it justifies potentially using an otherwise very suboptimal item

[hollow tulip]

i got a storm champion affix which is like really strong to save on an idol slot to get smite on throwing. it has some good damage increases on it. if only it was phyiscal and not fire. or both. because then I could do a warpath smite throwing build

i think i can still make it work in other ways

it has 123 extra fire percent damage and somehow 156 increase crit strike chance

[hollow tulip]

sadly its not a purple

but its still pretty strong

i think smite on throwing on a weapon is pretty worth what about you

[mental flare]

to burst or be bursted

[urban kestrel]

Im working on the smite vk build. ive found that having t7 DoT affixes doesnt do much. Does anyone know if this is a game issue or am I speccing into the wrong things?

[dense tendon]

not sure what youre asking
vk smite would be void and the void dot is time rot which only stacks to 12 so it's pretty terrible without a dedicated setup

[crude talon]

Anyone have planner for smite vk?

[bronze delta]

hey all, for the erasing strike VK, for the siphon of anguish, What are the most important stats on the ring??

[silk wasp]

Doom chance

[shy sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coR4f_ylvkI

[shy sorrel]

haha. there you go x)

I redid the video with "possible" gear

its still good - but non of the rare uniques are higher then lp2

the exalt slams are two t7s (though one being t6 wont hurt the build) and - if its a common unique with higher LP the rest of the rolls are t5s

Not gonna lie though - i would have liked to have a bit more hp - i think i had a bit too many offensive affixes; Running around at almost 10k corruption with 4kHP in a warpath melee felt very clench-y at times

@keen radish i redid the video with way less dramatic gear like you told me!

[modern wadi]

Wearing this means giving up an affix for crit reduction somewhere but probably worth it until I can find something like this as a Leonine 🙏

[mental flare]

do someone here have a shield bash (flurry of blows) build with monument of protection?

[sonic obsidian]

I like greatswords, or sword and shield, but prefer greatswords.

[forest kelp]

Only obtained it from farming blessings for the new character

[turbid dome]

[warped night]

one could say you were... blessed 😎

[warped night]

you could do sword + shield with spell damage scaling (divine bolt + holy eruption) rather than melee scaling. you'd convert it to a melee skill so it can proc divine bolts and either use it directly for more bolts, or indirectly with vengeance for more defense

[sonic obsidian]

Sounds fantastic

[warped night]

vengeance and HH on their own don't do a whole lot of damage, and their strength is in the ability to spam them

[sonic obsidian]

All good with that.

[warped night]

sick. do you need a planner or something loose to get you started, or was that enough to go on?

it's fairly simple, convert HH to melee, get the holy eruption from holy aura, if you're directly using HH then max out the divine bolts node, otherwise 1 point it, then get the divine bolts passives

use a 1h sword, get all the spell damage w/ shield nodes, get spell damage and attack speed on the sword, get the attack speed passive from the end of sentinel and the first 5 points of FG's strength passive

[strange snow]

At what point would you attempt uber with erasing strike build?

[sonic obsidian]

Can’t hurt lol

[warped night]

alright, here's a super loose planner that leaves a lot open for your own experimentation and preferences: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxVeqwqA

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (51)

General:

▸ Health: 1,148, Regen: 65/s
▸ Mana: 132.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 152% / 45% / 45% / 15% / 47% / 18% / 38%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 479
▸ Armor Mitigation: 34% (1,763)
▸ Block Chance: 83%, Mitigation: 40% (1,280)

Used skills:

Healing Hands / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope

[warped night]

this setup is if you use HH directly. if you go the vengenace route, then you want to only put 1 point in HH divine catalyst, and put another point in HH virtue of patience

[sonic obsidian]

Awesome, thank you so much

[warped night]

it's gonna be difficult to get high crit chance for spells, as it always is, so it may help to use phantom grip rings

np!

[mental flare]

i ruined mine 🙁

[forest kelp]

poor me

[small garden]

Im running a judgment pali. Level 89 would it be worth taking some points out of paladin and put them into forge night so I can weild a two hand and a shield?

Not sure where the node is im at work so didnt know if it's close to the front of the passive or not.

[silk wasp]

You cannot take Forgemaster's Might without being a FG

It's mutually exclusive with Judgement

[small garden]

Yea I just looked. Im a dummy! Lol

[shy sorrel]

ah yes xD

the classical "just dont get hit" kinda levels of corruption

[silk wasp]

Good ol Void Meteor

[forest kelp]

[crude talon]

What kind of build u doing?

[forest kelp]

Orb crit

Relax build by Cursedboy

[topaz coral]

@hexed raft

[crude talon]

Got a planner?

[forest kelp]

You look up there on August 1st, and you'll see

[crude talon]

Aight! Thanks. U using null potent instead btw?

[topaz coral]

this is a cool item

[forest kelp]

nope, it on my multistrike - void smite

[crude talon]

Got a planner for that aswell?:p

[forest kelp]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oPqGaK6A

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 97

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (26) / Void Knight (69) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 7,330, Regen: 78.91/s
▸ Mana: 390.71, Regen: 14.24/s
▸ Ward Retention: 42%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 44 Str / 21 Dex / 21 Int / 26 Att / 119 Vit
▸ Resistances: 127% / 99% / 99% / 125% / 117% / 168% / 168%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 2,365
▸ Dodge Chance: 15% (469)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 65% (5,175)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 144%

Used skills:

Multistrike / Smite / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope / Anomaly

[crude talon]

Thanks!

[forest kelp]

still find exalted sword for it

[crude talon]

On the gloves u wanted stun as a second affix?

[forest kelp]

Nope, failed slam

[crude talon]

What do you want?

[waxen nymph]

Shred or Hp if I had to guess

[forest kelp]

same it

Something like, I plan to use it for another build if needed😆

[crude talon]

what u want for third affix?

[forest kelp]

Hybrid health

I’ll look for shred from a weapon or amulet, something like that

[crude talon]

hybrid on wep?

[polar spire]

i always tell people, you can eat her nuke if you're tanky enough, but 1500 health? jesus

[topaz coral]

i am a freak like that

[forest kelp]

Ah, sorry, I didn’t check the link, shred for 3rd affixes

[crude talon]

okok

thanks!

[shy sorrel]

what is wrongwarp for in this build? 😮

just as a spelldmg stick?

[forest kelp]

Implicits more, smite spam like crazy

without that wand, one hit multistrike ~30 mana cost 🥹

[shy sorrel]

woooooo

[shy sorrel]

aw dang, yeah, that makes sense. is there an internal cooldown for aurelis smite proccs?

[forest kelp]

It only applies to bosses and rare enemies; it’s just a part, the main source being multistrike and echo

[hexed raft]

So gooooodddddddd

[waxen nymph]

I think they forgot their dmg on another character

[tropic jay]

How do I increase my damage? In the 1900 skill and in the auto attack 150-447, I'm doing a paladin build. this build https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/pt/oyYgMD2o

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (73)

General:

▸ Health: 4,314, Regen: 603.48/s
▸ Mana: 151.91, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 4%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 45 Str / 2 Dex / 2 Int / 11 Att / 11 Vit
▸ Resistances: 154% / 94% / 94% / 129% / 85% / 87% / 86%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 1,462
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (176)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 64% (5,033)
▸ Block Chance: 97%, Mitigation: 59% (3,021)

Used skills:

Judgement / Vengeance / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[waxen nymph]

Its better if you send your current character

Not the planner you are following

But from what I can see you dont have the right sword, belt and relic

[tropic jay]

this ?

[waxen nymph]

A link to your character

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/

[tropic jay]

thx https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/pt/Deeve_xD/character/Deeve

[waxen nymph]

To answer your question you want a couple things for your dmg
Mana gain with Vengeance
Healing Effectiveness
Increase Fire Dmg / Elemental Damage over Time (the second one is better)
Attack Speed

Like look at your sword

You are doing a SPELL FIRE DAMAGE OVER TIME build

Do you see anything relevant on it ?

[tropic jay]

I'm taking a while to kill the mobs at the moment, before it was fast, now it's taking a while

[waxen nymph]

Mobs are getting harder

And your gear isnt evolving and since it doesnt give you anything good you are getting weak

Go by that unique sword and belt from the planner

Just that should give you a nice dmg boost

And this is really important

[tropic jay]

ok

[waxen nymph]

More Mana = More Judgment = More Dmg

[tropic jay]

thx bro

[waxen nymph]

Belt + Sword + Gloves should be an easy buy

Even wihtout lp it will still be a big boost

How good is your english @tropic jay ?

Like can you watch videos ?

[tropic jay]

intermediate bro, I watch it almost always, but with subtitles

[waxen nymph]

Okay

You should watch a video or 2

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-paladin-guide

You can read this guide too

To try to understand how your build work

[turbid dome]

maxroll might not always have the best way to build something, but damn do they explain things well

like this blurb is amazing

someone whose brand new to Last Epoch (or even just new to paladin) enters the actual build part of it with a rough idea of what things do

[forest kelp]

So sick, one click have 2 WS 2lp with Turtle

[forest kelp]

2nd, drunk

Damn it, I was drunk and put it back with the other belts and press reroll again 😭 😭 😭

[turbid dome]

[pallid roost]

Strong in game item to irl correlation

[spring yew]

Told ya Kuden only 25 Brewery runs per day man. More than that and you get really really drunk 😛

[forest kelp]

The belt told me that my alcohol tolerance wasn't enough to own it

[sonic obsidian]

what else would you specialize in skill wise? Was thinking vengeance and the last one is kinda open?

[waxen nymph]

Wait, is that a proc divine bolts + Holy Burst build?

[warped night]

you could add judgement with anointed for a bit of extra damage and healing, you could add abyssal echoes with embrace the darkness for more attack speed and damage, you could spec into a movement skill specifically

ye

[waxen nymph]

Then you don't need 5/5 in divine bolts
If you are use Vengeance or smth to procc bolts

[warped night]

shield bash is a fun way to interrupt annoying boss mechanics

[waxen nymph]

1 pt is enough to apply the skill tree

[warped night]

yep, I already mentioned that in the convo above. gave both options

[waxen nymph]

Oh okay 👌

[warped night]

there's always the option of rotating the two as well

every 2s use vengeance otherwise go HH direct

[sonic obsidian]

would probably do a movement skill for fun

and just extra mobility then, if nothing else is explicitly needed

[warped night]

if you do vengeance-only or HH only then you have a free slot on your skll bar for an unspecced movement skill

[sonic obsidian]

true

[warped night]

if you plan on rotating them then you need them both on the bar ofc

[sonic obsidian]

I guess I'm just trying to figure out what to do as my 5th specialized skill, 4th would likely be vengeance

because I'd be specializing in HH, Holy Aura, Symbols of Hope, Vengeance, and then the fifth slot is open

[warped night]

my gut says abyssal echoes for more damage + attack speed + armor shred

you would have to direct cast it every now and then though

but you can convert it to fire and get healing out of it

you'd just need to pick up some blind chance from your passives to make sure you can still use embrace the darkness

[sonic obsidian]

something to consider then for sure, I still have a ways to go on leveling up my character, have had almost no play time lol

[warped night]

lol yeah, leveling can take a while, but it'll give you a good opportunity to experiment with different combos to figure out what feels the best to play for you

[sonic obsidian]

where can I look at what I'd need for a loot filter? I'm bad at loot filter stuff lol

or should I just not run one

[forest kelp]

You'll need to figure it out if you want to play long-term, but if you want something quick, there are plenty of people sharing basic loot filters on lastepochtool

[waxen nymph]

HH traversal if doing Vengeance

[warped night]

I prefer unspecced lunge to HH traversal personally, but also an option if you do vengeance yeah

[waxen nymph]

Really ?

Having to wait for a target and not being invulnerable is not that great imo

[forest kelp]

Make Lunge great again

[warped night]

meh I just use it for traversing monos, and it's really good at getting me to the next pack. I just hold right click and the moment a target is found I dash right to it

I also like shield rush more than HH

personal preference though

[sonic obsidian]

I'll play around, I considered smite traversal too, or HH traversal

[warped night]

smite traversal isn't a bad option either since it gives you more attack speed and is a spell itself

[sonic obsidian]

I just want to be a holy fire slinging melee paladin with a sword, these are all options that get me there lol

[warped night]

haha for sure

[sonic obsidian]

looks like I can use smite yeah, that will be fun. I'll plan for that to start

[warped night]

since you'll be speccing into smite you can also use palarus sword and orian's descent belt for some additional smite casts

[strange snow]

Makes me want to roll warpath again lol

[waxen nymph]

Right click?? For movement skill??

[forest kelp]

im back 😁

[warped night]

yeah lol I like to use my index finger for primary skills

[inland quarry]

with that multistrike node, will you caste smite on the same target multiple times with one attack? I can't tell. it all looks like just one smite.

[polar spire]

I dont run one for as long as i can get away with it, you're fine until like end end game when the whole screen gets filled

[alpine canopy]

Yes, bladestorm lets you cast a bunch of smites on a single target

[inland quarry]

thanks

[autumn prairie]

bro I got one tapped from fullhp full endurance in an area I havent died once in

[final granite]

What exactly does the skill anomaly do when playing warpath and why should it always be active?

[warped night]

you get buffed from the time bubble on the lower right part of the tree

[autumn prairie]

buffs you and debuffs enemies in the bubble

but you need to level it up and apply the correct skillpoints

[shy sorrel]

also its the first skill you can get rid of if you have something else you want to take

its basically a stationary debuff you put on the enemy- the silly thing is that most bosses you would want it for move out of it pretty frequently

so its kinda meh. the bubble is cute when it stays with you, but the bubble itself is the least useful debuff of the skill. everything else remains stationary afaik

[autumn prairie]

crit chance and atk speed is meh?

[warped night]

and cdr

[final granite]

So it's useful when I chose the skill inside anomaly that the bubble is following me?

[warped night]

the "enemies take more void damage" is also useful

[shy sorrel]

it is a useful skill, the uptime of it is a couple seconds at best though against abbaroth

he frequently jumps out of it

[warped night]

I don't think you understand how to use the skill tbh, because that's just not true

if time bubble follows you, then you always have the buff, and conversly if you're almost always in melee range of the enemy, they will always be affected by the debuff

and the "more damage" is not an effect of time bubble, it's for a time after returning to the present

has nothing to do with them being inside any aoe

[shy sorrel]

i think you are mistaken here - the timebubble is not the debuff or the primary of the skill. the debuff you think about - "mark of rot" which increase the void damage taken by the enemy by 50% is stationar/put on the enemy for 5 seconds. it does NOT follow you around with the timebubble. the timebubble is a seperate effect of the skill you can opt into (with its own benefits)

[warped night]

yep, nowhere did I say they were identical/part of the same, and if I implied that then that's my bad

[shy sorrel]

oh, yeah, sorry. we mean the same thing

[final granite]

So is it worth it or not

[warped night]

yes, always has been

mark of rot is a debuff that's applied to the enemy

[final granite]

Is there any other useful skill except anomaly? Something that gives me nana or health or something?

[shy sorrel]

if you have nothing else to do with your skillbar, sure, take it

[shy sorrel]

yup! My problem is that case the cd is 12 seconds and it lasts 5 seconds. which is a 40%ish uptime. or about a 22% increase in dmg. Thats about the same you can get from abyssal echos. Devouring orb outperforms it pretty hard. And since it is active use i find it the least useful of the VK abilities. If you got nothing else to use, then sure! build into it

[autumn prairie]

this is my skillbar

[shy sorrel]

I would strongly advise to use devouring orb instead of anomaly then

[warped night]

warpath has more than enough room for both

[autumn prairie]

y not both

[shy sorrel]

devouring orb is the go-to option for manasustain on voidknights

[final granite]

What could I take instead of anomaly

[shy sorrel]

again: if you got nothing else going on then go for it, sure

[warped night]

nothing, you're good

[shy sorrel]

i run a smite setup on warpath. but if you are unga-bunga 2h warpath then you are good

[autumn prairie]

what exactly do you need more than warpath as an active skill besides maybe a movement skill

[shy sorrel]

voidsmite warpath scales waaaay higher then normal warpath

[final granite]

Ah okay, I thought there would be something cool instead of anomaly maybe something that heals me or gives me nana or something

[shy sorrel]

orbs give you mana

[warped night]

I feel like that's not true but I don't have enough experience with either to definitively refute that

[shy sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coR4f_ylvkI

[warped night]

there's an insande amount of melee power in warrior's fury that smite just doesn't compare to

[final granite]

Healing hands doesn't work for warpath right

[shy sorrel]

it does, but i think you need to go quite a bit into paladin

[warped night]

9k corr is pretty spicy

[shy sorrel]

i recorded that yesterday with slapped together gear. I compared perfect offline gear voidsmite warpath with perfect offline 2h meleewarpath and its not even close. you just lack so much surviveability without a second layer of defense (like block) to even be a contender

[warped night]

got a planner?

[shy sorrel]

sure

somewhere xD

give me a bit

[autumn prairie]

isnt the smite supposed to trigger off of warpath?

[shy sorrel]

yes, and the weapon.

the weapon is the biggest contributor - but we use both. but the 1 per sec from warpath and the 3 per sec from the weapon. for about 4 smites per second

[warped night]

I was messing with a version of smite warpath myself though I didn't go very far with it and used spoon + palarus

[shy sorrel]

i like shields? the way mitigation works out its a exponential increase in surviveability

[warped night]

yeah that's fine, not saying one way or another is better

[autumn prairie]

wait scales higher than warriors fury?

[shy sorrel]

in my experience, yes.

i might have done something wrong ofc; i am human and prone to mistake

s

[warped night]

mood

[autumn prairie]

couldnt be me

I always do something wrong

[shy sorrel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKR6DxXo thats a planner with perfect, perfect gear. overcapped resists everywhere and way too much hp to know what to do with.

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 8,228, Regen: 33.6/s
▸ Mana: 224.2, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 34 Str / 13 Dex / 13 Int / 18 Att / 88 Vit
▸ Resistances: 186% / 124% / 124% / 108% / 99% / 143% / 143%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 2,013
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 77% (10,062)
▸ Block Chance: 94%, Mitigation: 65% (3,800)

Used skills:

Warpath / Smite / Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope

[warped night]

ty

[shy sorrel]

i can give you a breakdown of the most needed stats - but the video i linked above should showcase it anyhow at the end. (though ignore the t5s on some of the items. i was just too lazy to mess around too much longer with it.)

[warped night]

nah I think I understand that, just wanted to know what you were runnin

thanks though

[shy sorrel]

the idea was basically that vk allows one to scale most everything - melee and spells/abilities with just crit, void damage and vitality.

so you hone in on those attributes (with a couple exceptions like attackspeed to get as close to 3attackes per second as possible for the smite triggers) and can scale from there. its imo much more effective then trying to build for melee only which basically leaves the scaling of all other VK abilities at the wayside

oh, one thing is missing on the planner - with the aps we have

going there instead of area is way more effective

we attack about 6 times per second with warpath (double aps) and have about 4 smites on top. thats 10 hits or about 50% of the dots dmg per second. usually the abilitiy applies every 5 seconds from warpath automatically - at which point impair the weak has dealt 250% the dmg of a single application of abyssal decay we would have gotten otherwise

Besides - this build still deals really good warpath dmg - tooltip is about 250k? so if you want to go warpaths fury you can. probably a bit obnoxious on the mana though

[gleaming pine]

its hard to tell if its better just from a mono clear. best recorded time for uber abby i've seen on standard warpath is 1m30, on legit online. guy had good gear but still had some things to upgrade, so see if you can beat that with the 'achievable gear' setup

[shy sorrel]

uber abby is pretty static as a challange - it doesnt get harder or scales with corruption? at which point pressing for maximum dmg will probably give better results

but sure, will record one.

[shy sorrel]

could you link to that 1:30 uber abby run?

i feel like that is really fast with the phase transitions and all

[gleaming pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DjQN_Ky1Uc 1m28

[shy sorrel]

oh wow! yeah, while I can probably tank his slams i dont think the dmg is quite the same

[forest kelp]

Performs well at 2700c but often has mana completely drained in prolonged battles due to the Seed with my limited mana pool

[crimson crystal]

I'm sorry my fellow sentinels
I have finally reached aberroth and died 10 times...
the final phase was too much for me and my judgment aura paladin...

I could definitely use soome more damage, but it's not going to save me from manuevering the slam on final phase

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6wzL0XQ

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 94

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (77)

General:

▸ Health: 3,311, Regen: 419.64/s
▸ Mana: 514.26, Regen: 11.68/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 26 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 26 Att / 16 Vit
▸ Resistances: 176% / 104% / 97% / 54% / 90% / 115% / 79%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 24%, Threshold: 1,069
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (215)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 60% (4,175)
▸ Block Chance: 69%, Mitigation: 45% (1,570)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 105%

Used skills:

Symbols of Hope / Vengeance / Healing Hands / Javelin / Judgement

[alpine canopy]

There's always the 'trick' of quickly equipping Last Laugh with a high cull roll and hitting with any melee hit

[crimson crystal]

does it go through ward? I'd need to find one with a 20% roll if so

[alpine canopy]

It would if any enemy had ward while below 20%, Abby's last ward shield is at 20%, so you need to deplete it and then deal 1 damage to bring him in cull range

[crimson crystal]

ah so it's not really going to help me out that much because I can't get to that, I die before the ward's gone because of the slamming

[alpine canopy]

Ahh okay, dang 😔

Yeah that last phase can get pretty hairy

[crimson crystal]

wonder if I could trade javeling for rebuke and then just try to tank the damage on the edge to avoid the slam

[modern wadi]

fml how am I gonna find an exalt worthy of this disgusting thing

[gleaming pine]

you are missing this

cant get rid of jav, that's huge dps increase

need to lean more into attunement, it's the biggest dps scalar. attunement everywhere, healing effectiveness is second, ele dmg is last. Forgot about mana. Mana probably equal to healing effect

[waxen nymph]

Your Gloves are doing nothing for you

For idols you want 2x2 with Healing Effect

Because HE gives you Flat Spell and Fire Pen (once you have the passive

I would change a few pts in HH to use it as movement skill

Also you probably want Holy Aura instead of Vengeance

[forest kelp]

sad day

[wooden mountain]

healing hands procs when you use warpath but not when you just keep channeling it so no it's not a good combo

[final granite]

I accidentally skilled warriors furry, I just removed it and now i have unlimited mana lol

[polar spire]

that sounds... normal

if you take warrior's fury, mana goes byebye, if you don't have warrior's fury, mana doesnt go byebye

[final granite]

Yes but I've never played him before I didn't know

[forest kelp]

That is the process of experiencing someone else's build

[crimson crystal]

I got some other gloves with like 180% damage over time, but switched to those for the 25% delayed damage

[crimson crystal]

But consecrated ground is my main dps and it doesn't scale with attunement??? I had another armor with t7 att on it and swapped for the health one

[waxen nymph]

It does scale with attunement since Judgement scale with Attunement

And attribute scaling is inherited from the parent skill

And imo dmg wise you are missing mana

The more Dmg per mana consumed is huge

[rich junco]

whats good warpath gear alternatives? 🤔 like whats a good relic for example while im getting to empowered-early corruptions? and rings ig cuz im currently just using random rings

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qbv4kY9Q

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 78

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (56) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,591, Regen: 74.73/s
▸ Mana: 278.39, Regen: 9.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 13/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 11 Dex / 1 Int / 22 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 70% / 124% / 71% / 99% / 79% / 100% / 111%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 58%, Threshold: 646
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (295)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 45% (2,316)
▸ Block Chance: 6%, Mitigation: 20% (180)

Used skills:

Warpath / Devouring Orb / Anomaly / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes

[rich junco]

heres current build

i mean prob doesnt matter since im almost at empowered mono so ill just start farming uniques there npnp but yk

why tf do i have wing guards still actually 🤔

[turbid dome]

Unless your generating a ton of ward somehow, your going to want better defense

5 points into dark maw and 5 more points into eternal form would help a lot there

But also like health on gear and higher level bases

[waxen nymph]

!!

You definitely don't want Wing Guard

[rich junco]

yeah in oticed

HAHA

i just swapped

[waxen nymph]

You are disabling your crit!

[crimson crystal]

consecrated field:
23 attunement, 114451 per tick
44 attunement, 139392 per tick
pretty sure this damage difference actually comes from Pious Offering meaning I'm jumping from spending 100 mana for 200% increased damage to spending 112 mana for 224% increased damage
javelin doesn't seem to increase the damage on consecrated ground, only on the hit portion of judgment itself

[rich junco]

had it when i went the leveling judgement build and ig i forgot to swap

went from 9k dps average to like 16k just from swapping gloves

[rich junco]

yeah i know but is it better to just wait until i get few more levels and get higher level bases and can farm the uniques properly? 🤔

or just try to get better defenses rn

[waxen nymph]

Pious offering is more dmg, not increased

Javelin was working last I played it

[crimson crystal]

see I recall seeing better ticks when mapping but on the dummies it's not doing anything

...am stupid I wasn't actually hitting anything with the javelin

[rich junco]

😭

[crimson crystal]

so used to throwing the javelin anywhere because it basically always hits something when mapping

[turbid dome]

In empowered your probably going to start experiencing just random deaths cause a ranged mob did a big burst of damage (not even counting a crit)

[rich junco]

ye thats kinda what im afraid of

[turbid dome]

By chance do you have any body armor/helmets with vitality, flat health and % increased health

Also vitality idols

[rich junco]

i dont rly have hybrid health sadly but i can prob fix this helmet and add vitality to this armour? and upgrade health

[turbid dome]

That body armor is great

Helmet also solid

[rich junco]

yeahhh i can make nice changes too since not touched at all LMAO

[turbid dome]

But also I’m saying flat health and %increased as two separate affixes

[rich junco]

fair

[turbid dome]

Not hybrid as that’s a separate affix

And a lot rarer

And increased is always better than hybrid (after like 1000 flat health, including base hp from levels), this is more important for slams/legendary crafting

Tho of course you can have both

[rich junco]

i can prob just seal the necrotic on the helmet and add increased %?

[turbid dome]

If I remember correctly, add a prefix then seal necrotic to guarantee it

[rich junco]

ohhhh

didnt see that part

ty for tip

[turbid dome]

Then make sure to have hope glyphs on while crafting up to T5 increased health

[rich junco]

ok not bad, just need that extra t5 increased health but its guaranteed at least

didnt rly have any mana/dmg prefix so its w e

[turbid dome]

Slap that on and look at your healthbar now

Also damage too

[rich junco]

ye like 400 more hp LMAOOO

[turbid dome]

Cause vitality goes brrrr

[rich junco]

what are some good ring bases i should aim for while getting the uniques?

[turbid dome]

Coral rings

Ideally with 6 vitality

Cause each vit for you is

• 8 flat health
• 1% necrotic res
• 1% poison res
• 2 flat void spell damage (stat scaling on skills)
• 0.33% more melee void damage (mastery passive)

[rich junco]

alright ill add coral rings to filter and just recolour so i always check em ig

[turbid dome]

Also, make sure vitality weaver idols show up distinctly

The best is 1x2 weaver idols as they can roll up to +5 vit, whereas the sentinel 1x4 caps at +7 vit

[rich junco]

oki will do

[turbid dome]

Other important thing

Once you get a siphon of anguish from shade

You can drop all the leech points in your passive tree

So 0 points in world eater and devouring blade

Additionally the only stat you care about being a high roll on the ring is the chance to apply doom on hit

Minimum rolls on everything else is ok

[rich junco]

alright tyty for super useful info

[rich junco]

what should my prefix be on that body armor tho? cuz missing 1 so might as well add smth good but dont have warpath levels rn

[turbid dome]

We care about doom because each doom stack makes the enemy take 4% increased damage (math wise that’s 4% more damage) and it caps at 4 stacks

[turbid dome]

Ideally that’s where you stick a skill levels affix

Like +levels to warpath

Assuming that’s a body armor affix

I forget which slot warpath goes on

[rich junco]

yeah dont rly have that rn tho and realistically will just get a better one later no?

[turbid dome]

Yea

[rich junco]

but yes it goes on body armor

[turbid dome]

Just slap something there that looks neat/helpful

[rich junco]

just increased void dmg mby?

[turbid dome]

Can’t really ever go wrong with that

Could also slap strength onto it, but I normally put strength on my rings

[rich junco]

nvm i say i dont have any and now ive found two of em

i have 2 rune of havoc, surely we can rng it

[turbid dome]

Gl

[rich junco]

shouldve taken the t5 warpath

[pallid roost]

Other than twisted heart

[rich junco]

well at least its not t6 physical res

[pallid roost]

For dmg mitigation has anyone used the void set shield to 50% dr from void on block

Convert 50% ele dmg taken to void from tree

[turbid dome]

yes

you can also shard-ify the forgotten knight set and the shield affix for it gives the less void dmg taken on block

[pallid roost]

Yeah champion thing

Idk haven’t played in a long time but that’s what made me consider it

[turbid dome]

?

set shards aren't champion affixes

[pallid roost]

Oh they aren’t

[turbid dome]

champ affixes are sealed affixes only

[pallid roost]

I haven’t played long time you can get it on unique or no

[turbid dome]

set shards can not go on uniques

gotta pick between uniques/legendaries and set stuff

[pallid roost]

Right so share I can get on what best item

Void dr I mean sorry

[turbid dome]

probably an ironglass shield with block chance and the set shard

[pallid roost]

I can get on an exalted item cool cool

[turbid dome]

and then other affixes that you need

[turbid dome]

yea

[pallid roost]

I’ll have to look at dmg taken formula order but I think that’s a juicy mod for VK

Otherwise I’m thinking of playing smite forgeguard with 2h/shield

[turbid dome]

it is

all incoming damage converts happen -> then your defensive stats apply

also things can only convert once so no silly Orian's eye loop

[pallid roost]

Ya seems really good,here is my issue though. I need to use twisted heart to make ward comfortably, so it’s gotta be lightning not void convert. So the vk echos don’t help but that’s okay my damage way beyond. So just mitigating big hits and sustain ward

[turbid dome]

gonna ask, if your a VK why do ward and not HP?

also echos don't care for damage type, just treat it as chance to do double damage (its not exactly that but roughly thats how it maths out)

[pallid roost]

Yeah but twisted heart won’t sac on void skull

[turbid dome]

ah right TH

[pallid roost]

Do I have to complete quests to get to aberoth ? I can show u big dmg on legacy if u have a shade or boss we can open

[turbid dome]

the forgotten knight faction quests is for regular aberoth

I'm also at work so I can't

[pallid roost]

ahh damn ok ill make a lil clip u can c, thanks for helping me

[turbid dome]

[crimson crystal]

I...did it
all I had to do was dodge the slam properly on last phase

[pallid roost]

Awesome brotha

[turbid dome]

🎉

[forest kelp]

I'm standing in front of Nemesis corpse crafting weapon, and after finishing, I clicked on it and saw what the hell is this?

[turbid dome]

a great thing to reroll exalted affixes on and hope you get a ammo for a giga slam

[forest kelp]

I already have a sample with the Sentinel Champion Regalia type; it would be great if this armor belonged to a different class

[turbid dome]

more ammo for slams is never bad

but yeah it would be solid if it was a different clases armor

[pallid roost]

what are some good ways to get the base dam up

and is there any thing that scales other stats per bleed duration

[waxen nymph]

Get %Phys Dmg or or %DoT

[pallid roost]

no way to get flat right all percent off the small start ay?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

Base Dmg for Bleed is not smth you can get

Its all multipliers

Inc Dmg, Duration, number of stacks , More Dmg from the skill that applies the bleed

Penetration

[turbid dome]

Technically attack speed increases your “base bleed damage” in terms of damage per second

Given more bleeds = more instances of the 40 flat phys damage

Also what the hell is that bleed duration

[waxen nymph]

Dont forget to pop them with Abyssal echoes so you dont wait for a million years

[turbid dome]

Or that axe which cuts bleed time in half by speeding it up

This guy

So as you smack to apply bleed your bleeds do their damage faster and faster

[dense tendon]

does it just keep proccing on the same bleeds or just once

[turbid dome]

It should just keep speeding it up

So like 10000 damage over 100 seconds -> over 50 seconds -> over 25 seconds, over 12.5 seconds

With your apparently stupidly high bleed duration it looks like a must

[warped night]

I have a pally build that combines this with symbol of demise for yuge bleed pops. would recommend purely for entertainment value

[dense tendon]

that doesnt sound legal

[warped night]

I think I saw some 90m+ pops on the dummy after only a second or two of whacking it

and my gear still has significant room for improvement

[pallid roost]

ohj nice find on that axe bro

i just started messing w bleed for the first time now never paid dots any attention before but they gave them some good updates and supports since beta

[dense tendon]

do you have any defense at all with that catalyst on

[alpine canopy]

% chance to apply is basically flat damage for stacking ailments

[waxen nymph]

Dont forget Blood of the Exile boots

[pallid roost]

lol of course not duke, im just trying to test stuff

[warped night]

yeah, standard hp-based defense. I'm making sure to not consider the ward as a defensive layer

[pallid roost]

every 3 seconds is so damn frequent

[alpine canopy]

Abyssal echoes also speeds them all up to instant damage

[turbid dome]

[dense tendon]

how

[warped night]

really powerful when combined with bleed duration increases

[final granite]

Is the only way to use warriors fury only when you have the helmet with the reduced channeling cost?

[waxen nymph]

Yup

Otherwise the mana cost will ramp up too much

[final granite]

Damn, can you push corruption a little bit without this node? (I'm not talking about 1k+)

Or is the damage lacking then?

[waxen nymph]

It will be on the low side

[final granite]

How do u get the helmet with the skill?

I think I've never seen it in 200 hours

[turbid dome]

It’s a sentinel class affix that’s on the rarer side

So just farm a lot

[waxen nymph]

You farm 😄

[turbid dome]

The sentinel only gear woven echo can help

[final granite]

Lol

[turbid dome]

Or get a T7 on a helmet and a T1 reduced channel cost and use the rune to swap them

[final granite]

I've read the rune of havoc can help?

Does it matter on which helmet I use the rune on?

[turbid dome]

If your gonna slam the exalted channel cost affix onto a unique, no

If your gonna use the exalted helmet, yes

[final granite]

I meant exalted helmet yes

But which exalted helmet? Or does it even matter?

[turbid dome]

As long as it’s a sentinel helmet your good

Ideally leonine helmet because it’s just the best

[final granite]

Can I even slam the channel thing on an item?

I don't even have something to craft it

[turbid dome]

If you don’t have a crafting shard you’ll need to get one

So uhh rev up that tractor

[final granite]

Wow why is it so rare, this is my third character and I've done monos with each one for like 100 hours

[turbid dome]

Or if your merchants guild buy an item with it then rune of removal spam to guarantee the shards

Shattering if you run out of fp

[final granite]

Yeah I'm in cof

I don't understand how I can have zero, do I need 1k hours in monos? Lol

[turbid dome]

It’s a rare affix, that can only show up on two class specific gear slots

[final granite]

Damn

[turbid dome]

It also doesn’t stick out much so if your not aware you might of just shattered the item with it and not gotten the shards

Like +levels to a skill is very noticeable

When you do get one use runes of removal to guarantee all the shards

Assuming it hits channel cost affix before running out of fp

[final granite]

I will never get one 😭

[turbid dome]

Don’t give up

[final granite]

How do I effectively farm them?

Spam exalted helmet prophecies?

[turbid dome]

It’s one of the hardest things to get, like getting it is pain for everyone

[turbid dome]

Yea

[final granite]

Okay let's go

[turbid dome]

I think if you complete them in the “gear for a great sentinel” woven echo it will only spit out sentinel hats

But that’s a limited amount of enemy types

[alpine canopy]

Just make sure your filter highlights any items with it on so you don't miss them

[rich junco]

ok ive spent like 6-7 havocs rn and still no t6 warpath 💔 do i keep waiting or just get it to t5 and slam it on titans heart?

not like titans heart is hard to get ig 🤔

[pallid roost]

So if anyone wants to do science w me and try to find clever use of game mechanics, I am looking at the hammer that gives time dilation stacks atm

It has a less multiplier for attack speed and cast speed, and when multiply less or - things together sometimes u can break stuff

[final granite]

But even if I get this thing, rune of removal just removes something random so I could waste the item and farm for it again for 5000 hours lol

[alpine canopy]

That's a possibility, but you can use glyph of hope to improve your odds and then if you fail, you can still shatter it and maybe get some anyway

[pallid roost]

Also random bug symbols of hope converted to void added damage counts as added melee void for dark strike

Maybe it’s just a generic added void dmg thing that gets to count for it too

[final granite]

Which rune?

[final granite]

Can I also use rune of redemption on a sentinel helmet to get the channeling thing?

[turbid dome]

Yes but it’s less likely imo

As that just randomly puts a different affix in place of the exalted one

Havoc is better odds, but you need an item with an exalted affix then craft on the affix you want to make exalted

Then hope you get the t7 to affix you want it on

[final granite]

Yeah havoc is better...if I could craft the channel thing lol

Is world splitter with 18% melee critical strike chance better than clothos needle if I don't get good stuff on the needle?

[turbid dome]

Honestly solid question

[final granite]

I've read the needle is only better when you get good stuff on it which is ultra mega random and rare

[sonic obsidian]

does smite or HH make for the better traversal skill with their respective nodes

I feel like I can attack faster using vengeance and proccing HH that way indirectly, so maybe I do HH as my traversal, and use my last specialized skill slot for judgement, and spec into the consecrated aura?

doing a vengeance/HH build, currently almost level 40

just using unspecced shield rush to traverse right now, but will unlock my last spec skill slot at 50

[turbid dome]

If your triggering HH is a solid movement skill

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[turbid dome]

Just get the node to make you immune during it

[pallid roost]

I like volatile reversal the best so far

[sonic obsidian]

maybe I'll try HH movement and just proc with vengeance then

[pallid roost]

What did u think bout that dot with the axe u linked, p decent hey

[turbid dome]

if you have stupidly long bleed durations, yes use that axe 100%

[pallid roost]

I linked gif idk if u saw above

What boss dummy calculation is 1/10th dmg to high level zone right

[turbid dome]

yeah thats solid damage

and since its a dot build just get more attack speed so you apply more bleeds and make them tick faster... faster

also like salt the wounds gloves for even more scaling

[sonic obsidian]

and then my last specced skill is still open, but I'm thinking about judgement

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, not a bug - added void is shorthand for added melee void + added spell void + etc.

[pallid roost]

Wow great to know actually

[peak zodiac]

you will get much more mana and (generally) more damage compared to a bad clotho, you will however lose out on a decent extra defensive layer from the parry. you can get very far with splitter (I took it to my first uber kill with 1LP) and a good 1 or even 2LP splitter is generally much easier to obtain than a good clotho’s. I personally would use splitter until you find a good one.

also for clotho’s you really want +4 warpath on chest where with splitter you don’t need it to cap crit which means you can even run something like T7 mana or T7 %hp instead

[polar spire]

i remember a guy doing shenanigans with the bleed catalyst offhand

was doing some of the highest bleed numbers ive ever seen, and ive gotten up into the millions with forge guard bleed

was going higher than mine with that cata

[warped night]

yeah that could have been me. my bleed pally with that offhand can do 90m+ bleed pops on the dummy

[polar spire]

oh he was higher

[warped night]

nice

[polar spire]

theres honestly a lotta stuff they need nerfin on

[warped night]

that one might need a cap on how much ward it can consume, but it's super niche so idk how much of a bat it actually needs

[final granite]

Thank you!

[forest kelp]

almost max roll

[forest kelp]

sad day

[turbid dome]

[mental flare]

illegal that i can't slam this on sentinel

[warped night]

at least there's the increased phys damage & bleed duration affix, which is agruably better for damage

[terse hedge]

anyone know off hand if the Stun chance from Heavy Strike + Anvil Blow scales the DoT increase from Bellows?

[waxen nymph]

99% sure yes

[terse hedge]

thank you

[waxen nymph]

Do you have a character to try it ?

[terse hedge]

ya going to test it in offline today

[waxen nymph]

Just tried it and it looks like it

[terse hedge]

oh nice
thank you for checking

it has potential for some juicy ignites with that new amulet

[reef plover]

Probably a common question here: anyone know how much of the stats are taken from equipped sword/shield for manifest armour with the relevant nodes? All prefixes/suffixes or...

[turbid dome]

all "non complicated affixes" (also no attributes) and the implict stats on the item

its kinda a case by case but in general simple stats like +melee damage work, things like event horizon's stacking mechanic wont work

[reef plover]

What about alignment chances

[turbid dome]

that works yea

[reef plover]

Sweet, ty for the info

[turbid dome]

basically anything that is a regular affix shard will work

minus like +skill levels cause they dont have skills

[reef plover]

Right

[west ermine]

Hey, can anyone help share the google sheet for erasing strike damage calculator?

[forest kelp]

In pinned

[quiet hearth]

I need a new pally spell to abuse that wisp ammy

[forest kelp]

new upgrade

[quiet hearth]

he may not know where he is going, but by gods will he get there fat as hell

[turbid dome]

yo Draven's here

[west ermine]

I think it's been removed. There's only 1 pin message left/

[hallow herald]

for voidknight smite, is multistrike the best applicator? as say compared to hammers or even javelin with the smite idols

[alpine canopy]

They each have pros and cons, I'm not sure if there is a clear best

[turbid dome]

as toast said each has their pros and cons

tho you also need to throw warpath into the mix because of vortex pendant

and direct cast vk smite is also a thing given smite's double cast node stacks with echos

try a few of them out and see which one you vibe with the most

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, this for sure, build feel is super important

[forest kelp]

Multistrike is currently the thing that can trigger Smite the most, other things are more limited

[turbid dome]

yea

most smites = most damage... but your also basically true melee

[sonic obsidian]

damn, should I do circle of fortune or merchant guild?

[waxen nymph]

Weird, maybe the cms did that

Use the search fonction
in: #🔱┃sentinel from: Noobzor has: link

Should come up quite quickly

[forest kelp]

If you have gold and only play for a short time, MG is a great choice at the start of each season; otherwise, you should challenge yourself with CoF

[terse hedge]

ya it doesn't take long for the inflation to get pretty crazy. I am way too casual after opening weekend to keep up with MG long term

[sonic obsidian]

well after this season ends, this new sentinel will stay legacy for me. I probably won't do seasonal again, it's not my bag

[turbid dome]

just as a warning, in the future the new content will be seasonal only

currently since its all core systems for the game they get added to both

plus new seasons means a great time to try a new build out

[sonic obsidian]

Yeah new characters I’ll do as a season because why not

But I’m not going to abandon my sentinel because the seasons over lol

[forest kelp]

There are many people playing Legacy every day, even at the end of the season, so you won't be alone

[turbid dome]

ye

[jolly bough]

Yo does the "Time Wave" node in anomaly work with the "Immediacy" node

[alpine canopy]

Yes

[forest kelp]

go so far

[waxen nymph]

You should stop locking the minion regen imo

[jolly bough]

"Sigh"

[forest kelp]

Got it, hope this time it goes smoothly with Omnividence 3lp... I've already slam failed over 10 times with 2lp

[turbid dome]

[pseudo parcel]

[sonic obsidian]

Ok, I finished the story last night I think? I'm onto monoliths now, like level 60

and I got all the passive points and idol slots I think too

time to really grind lol

[turbid dome]

you can check that on the map screen

and if you got booted to the end of time and got told to go to the monoliths then yeah thats the end of the campaign (you earned +1 all attributes c: )

[sonic obsidian]

sure did!

[turbid dome]

go forth and conquer the monos of fate... then challenge the empowered monos of fate

[sonic obsidian]

so as a HH build (Proccing HH through vengeance, and I have divine bolt stuff, and using judgement for consecrated aura too).

Other than attunement, what offensive affixes should I be doing? I'm confused as to the difference between:
+Melee fire damage
+fire Damage
+Elemental Damage
+Melee Damage
+Spell Damage
etc.

also, I have the seraph blade node on HH which makes it a melee attack, but it doesn't get the strength or melee scaling tags? Just the spell/attunement still?

I assume focus attunement and spell damage, but am I getting any benefit from +Melee fire damage at all?

[turbid dome]

you get the melee tag so melee affects it (both %Increases and things like +5 fire melee damage)

[sonic obsidian]

oh ok, it bugged out for me at one way I was viewing it, and it didn't get the melee tag still lol

but now I see it

[turbid dome]

and so

• • melee fire/physical/void/etc. damage adds that much flat damage to melee attacks, this is only found on weapons (and a few passive nodes/uniques) most of the time this is one of the best stats you can get for your damage type (ie fire melee build gets +melee fire damage
• %increased physical/fire/elemental/etc. damage grants that much increased damage, unlike more multipliers, all valid sources of increased damage are added together then they increased your damage
• Spell damage wouldn't affect this as its not a spell

math wise thats how everying is put together

[sonic obsidian]

right, spell damage in my case will affect divine bolts, and some of the stuff in judgement, as that has both the melee AND spell tags

[turbid dome]

ah

in judgement's case thats because theres a spell part and a melee part

like the initial use of it is the big slam thats melee

then the spell part is consecrated ground(or aura with the aura node)

[sonic obsidian]

yes the consecrated ground is spell damage, I get it now

so am I dumb for having things that focus spell, and somethings that focus melee? should I shift stuff around to only focus one or the other?

[turbid dome]

no paladin and void knight can do solid mixed builds

[sonic obsidian]

right now I am shredding things in regular monos at least, which I know is not end endgame, but I'm doing something right

[turbid dome]

but if you want to heavily push corruption then it would be better to focus one

[sonic obsidian]

and yes, I'm using sword+shield with the spell damage with a shield node too

[turbid dome]

also for Consecrated ground, keep this part of its description in mind

[turbid dome]

you may want to look at the trigger smite swords

but that would shift your build into more spell than melee

[sonic obsidian]

thats fine as long as I'm still smacking things in melee lol

[turbid dome]

thats the idea

also is your block chance at 100%?

[sonic obsidian]

nooooo, it's at 34 right now

[turbid dome]

[sonic obsidian]

this is my sheet right now

[turbid dome]

so an ironglass shield is gonna be your one stop shop to getting a ton of block chance

symbols of hope can also give 3% block chance per active symbol, which you can have up to 5

sentinel then has a lot of nodes around that just give some block chance as well

[sonic obsidian]

you mentioned smite trigger swords? is that just an affix on certain swords that trigger smite?

[turbid dome]

like Stalwart (base sentinel tree), Honor (paladin), shield wall (Paladin), and steel ageis (forge guard)

These are all ones you can grab as a a paladin

[turbid dome]

their unique swords,

Palarus's Sacred Light: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzCMGYBYDYg

and Aurelius: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsCZwViA

additionally multistrike would be what you want to use as your melee skill as it has a node which converts the extra attacks into smites

so you just melee smack and smite a bunch

[sonic obsidian]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxVeqwqAI was using this as a starter base

[turbid dome]

weird

that planner isn't loading

if you want to try the multistrike smite route, those two nodes are the main things you need from multistrike's tree

[sonic obsidian]

but modified for using HH as my movement skill

I'll try it as I level up a bit more, right now what I'm using is working. I just really needed to understand the tags/affixes more

[turbid dome]

thats fair

[sonic obsidian]

what you said has helped a TON

[turbid dome]

[sonic obsidian]

going to tweak some stuff to get more block chance/defensives, but now I understand the affixes much much better, thank you

[turbid dome]

for bonus clarity about multistrike's thing there, the upper left node makes it smites (which use your smite tree's nodes) instead of extra melee smacks and the lower right node lets the extra attacks (which are smites here) all hit the same target (shotgunning)

[rigid dragon]

any major changes for us with season 3? we gonna be good in other builds then VK hammer smash

[sonic obsidian]

that might be awesome to try, I had initially started this new character to try out the vengeance stuff with this season for its's fire conversion and whatnot, but multistrike doesn't convert to fire at all does it?

[pseudo parcel]

Wait for patch notes and pray

[rigid dragon]

when are patch ntoes

[pseudo parcel]

50/50 chance. They either nerf Sentinel to bring it in line with other classes or buff everything else

[turbid dome]

Don't believe so

[pseudo parcel]

I'm not familiar with EHG's patch cycles but my bet is two weeks from now

[rigid dragon]

lol thats release time

[turbid dome]

Hype week starts on the 11th, patch notes are usually out a few days before the update

[pseudo parcel]

I'm itching already and pray my studies aren't too demanding so I can blast

[turbid dome]

[pseudo parcel]

[sonic obsidian]

do those autosmite casts allow me to use smite as my traversal too?

[pseudo parcel]

Unless something new catches my eye I'll probably start Judgement on SAFHC again, rush Uberroth and then respect into Giga WP

[turbid dome]

yea since that node is when you directly cast smite, same as with HH as a traversal and triggering it

Directly cast is always you hitting the skill button, triggering a skill with something else is never a direct cast

[sonic obsidian]

and so like... can I stack HH autocasts with that too? and divine bolts? will that hit with every multistrike hit???? lol

[turbid dome]

yes

so multistrike smack -> HH -> smites go off -> smite trigger on the sword goes off -> lots of smites

throw divine bolts in there too

[alpine canopy]

Pretty sure you'd want to avoid that node with MS tho, since MS smites are not free

[turbid dome]

does traversal smite add mana cost

[alpine canopy]

and the traversal smite node bumps the mana cost up like crazy

[turbid dome]

ah

plus bladestorm mana cost so the smites can shotgun yeah thats an owie mana cost

keep healing hands as the traversal skill imo

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, or unspecced lunge or VR

[turbid dome]

true

@sonic obsidian quick check, you know you can put passive points into the other two masteries right

[sonic obsidian]

Yes

I do

[alpine canopy]

I'm not a big fan of HH traversal, just a personal feel thing, imo try them all out and stick with what you like

[turbid dome]

void cleave is the bestest but by etera is it so restrictive on weapon choice

[sonic obsidian]

Yeah, maybe I don't do smite traversal, and do something else

[terse hedge]

anyone else feel that Forge Strike should more reliably summon Forge Weapons?
between the mana cost and innate cooldown, it should do better than other skills

[sonic obsidian]

I loved void cleave on my 2h melee sent I did with Rive

[turbid dome]

i normally combo it with multistrike to turn the armament stacks into forged weapons

but it would be nice if forge strike was better at it

[terse hedge]

sure Multistrike into FS is great, but 2 buttons to summon minions is meh

[sonic obsidian]

so I might do Multistrike/smite/HH/Aura/Symbols of hope as my specced skills, but I don't need to keep HH on my actual bar right? I could use unspecced lunge or something right?

like if I'm specialized into it for autocasting with MS, I don't need it slotted right?

[turbid dome]

yea

triggered skills only need to go on the bar if they have a cooldown (like auto cast devouring orbs)

[sonic obsidian]

Ok.... I might respec and try this out lol

I'll wait til I get more relevant gear though

[turbid dome]

just always make sure you have enough gold to respec back into your old build if you dont like it

[alpine canopy]

Yup, without that FS can guarantee a total of 1 FW per use against a rare/boss, which is pretty measly.
You can use vengeance nowadays to have a simple 1-button FW generator, though.

The tankiness you get when your build is just spamming vengeance is really nice, too

[turbid dome]

Yea

[sonic obsidian]

I think that's ALOT of my toughness right now lol

so when I look at HH in my skill window it looks right

[turbid dome]

Never trust tooltip dps

[sonic obsidian]

but when I zone to a new area, and hover over it on my bar it's not correct

oh, not talking about the dpos

*dps

talking about the scaling tags

[turbid dome]

Oh

Walk around for a second then look at it

[sonic obsidian]

there's no way to export my current character is there? or do I have to manually enter into the planner? lol

[sonic obsidian]

oh my god

incredible

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Ba58xlxB

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 64

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (26) / Paladin (51)

General:

▸ Health: 878, Regen: 56.25/s
▸ Mana: 160.99, Regen: 12.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 11%, Regen: 4/s
▸ Attributes: 30 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 26 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 187% / 147% / 122% / 64% / 140% / 27% / 42%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 64%, Threshold: 562
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (53)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 50% (2,424)
▸ Block Chance: 47%, Mitigation: 45% (1,182)

Used skills:

Vengeance / Holy Aura / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Judgement

[sonic obsidian]

this is where I am currently at, I need to fine tune some stuff

but open to feedback

debating on doing the multistrike/smite switch, worried about juggling the physical damage scaling of MS, but it seems like that's more of a vessel for the spell damage scaling version of HH?

[turbid dome]

You just ignore the direct damage of MS and focus on smite

If you’ve played path of exile, it’s like cast on crit cyclone

[sonic obsidian]

and plus, smite has the global melee fire damage.....

I'm demolishing right now anyways, lets goooo

[turbid dome]

Big thing for smite, always take the sacrifice node

Hit or aliment (like ignite) it’s the bestest

[sonic obsidian]

so what would a build for MS/Smite look like?

I can find one on the planner

but wouldn't sacrifice ruin your health with that much multicasting?

[turbid dome]

some build tips

• You need 3 points in honor to get the 3% block chance
• Reverence of Duality is very strong
• you need to invest a lot more into max health

[turbid dome]

gimmie a second and I'll throw one together

[pseudo parcel]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/1aqs01c4#3

You can also use https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzBsCZwViA

but it would have to be 2LP at the bare minimum to feel good

[turbid dome]

thats a vk one and their doing paladin with it + divine bolts

[pseudo parcel]

ah

I did the WP version for Paladin but no idea about MS on that setting

[turbid dome]

yeah thats why I'm just throwing one together quickly to give them a rough idea to follow

[sonic obsidian]

no way it's good with sword and shield eh?

[turbid dome]

sword and shield is a lot tankier

[warped night]

plus you still get spell damage while having a shield thanks to passives

[waxen nymph]

Am I an adult now ?

[sonic obsidian]

is there a guide for how to do a good loot filter somewhere

I keep picking up all this stupid junk lol

[turbid dome]

@sonic obsidian https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJex7pmA

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (31) / Void Knight (15) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (59)

General:

▸ Health: 3,361, Regen: 74.8/s
▸ Mana: 327.99, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 62 Str / 12 Dex / 12 Int / 33 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 118% / 126% / 96% / 91% / 103% / 90% / 92%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 970
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,909)
▸ Block Chance: 108%, Mitigation: 64% (3,713)

Used skills:

Symbols of Hope / Holy Aura / Multistrike / Smite / Healing Hands

[sonic obsidian]

oh damn, and that has the loot filter too?

[turbid dome]

some important things:

• Make sure the max stacks of symbols is on in the buffs for accurate numbers from it
• Resistances and block chance are over capped to help showcase the amount of places you can get it
• The "Grand hunger of the void" blessing can be swapped out for something else once you have the blood mage gloves
• The "Grand Bones of Eternity" blessing also can be swapped out once your at 100% block chance
• all the uniques used are fairly common and easy to get at 1lp (only craft them into legendries in T2 and above sanctums to guarantee the affix you want)

[turbid dome]

LE Tools will make you a filter for your build with that button

[sonic obsidian]

It makes the tool automatically?

sorry the filter

[turbid dome]

yea

[sonic obsidian]

How does it generate the criteria for it? based on the skills chosen, or current gear?

[turbid dome]

great question

[warped night]

no flame burst feels like a big miss imo, though I guess multstrike isn't as good at generating them when you convert to smite

[turbid dome]

I just know its a generally pretty good filter

[sonic obsidian]

I'm still going to play my current build for a bit, let's see what it exports for my current setup lol

[turbid dome]

yea

was more focused on maximizing smites + divine bolt usefulness

[warped night]

I liked generating my own filter organically. pick up crap until I see a trend, then filter out the specific crap

[turbid dome]

oh wait also with that build

• a lot of the gear has empty affixes, this is to give flex space for affixes incase you can't find exalted resistances and other things it needs
• the build has a lot of upgrades that can be gotten for it, but thats on you to figure out

[sonic obsidian]

alot of these things are gibberish to me right now, as I'm not in endgame endgame yet, but I appreciate it so I can reference this later

[turbid dome]

yea

[warped night]

imo don't worry about filtering everything out right now

[turbid dome]

filtering is a lot more important later when 500 items drop at the same time

[warped night]

once you learn what is good and what isn't you can make your own informed decision about what you want to see and what you don't

too many people skip that step and just grab another person's filter without understanding why some things are being filtered out

[turbid dome]

bingo

learning to make a loot filter is a skill you gotta learn, just like learning what each node on the passive tree does

[warped night]

yep, and it may seem daunting at first, but really as you play the game and start to understand things more first-hand then you'll just start to implicintly know what you want to filter. it'll grow and evolve as you do. there's no need to skip straight to an "optimal" loot filter, because there isn't one optimal filter

[turbid dome]

wont lie tho, I do normally grab heavyz filter just cause I'm lazy and dont want to reinput the hiding stuff logic

but then I customize it

a lot

[warped night]

I play legacy so I don't have that issue lol. have had one filter that I keep tweaking and every character uses it

[turbid dome]

you dont make an entirelly new filter for every build?

gasp

[warped night]

no wtf

it's not like loot for one build doesn't drop when I'm playing a different build

[turbid dome]

🐟

[warped night]

lol

that mindset has always been wild to me

but I don't exclusively play one build per season

[turbid dome]

I'm not hiding good stuff for other builds, I'm more so just highlighting different things on each build

and my ass does not want to change the highlight thing constantly with my constant-build-swap-itis

[warped night]

yeah, and I add those rules to a generic filter so if something good drops on one character I know, regardless of what build it's for

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

let me tell you about alt-itis

[warped night]

I've been bouncing around between alts so much, and sometimes I get a drop for an alt which prompts me to bounce again

[quiet hearth]

Every patch I have to redo like 6 build for the same dumb idea to make sure it still works

And I swear, if the new Lich doesnt have a fire conversion for Flay Im going to riot

[turbid dome]

this just in it can be physical/cold/lightning/poison/necrotic/void

[sonic obsidian]

I play one character until it's maxed generally

[quiet hearth]

I havent gotten to 100 in a bit

[silk wasp]

I just color code the filters by build. I'm usually only looking for like 2-3 at a time though

[warped night]

I have like 10 characters where I'm kinda passively looking for gear for all of them at all times

[quiet hearth]

the key is to use the same gear on all of those characters

also, physical pally spell when

[sonic obsidian]

question, will +melee fire damage only add to a melee skill that is dealing base fire damage?

or will it just add fire damage to a melee attack like multistrike

[quiet hearth]

it will just add it

[turbid dome]

It will add it to any melee skill you use

Doing split damage makes it a little weird to scale as say

Physical damage Rive with +melee fire damage on weapon

• the physical portion scales with physical stats
• the fire portion scales with fire stats
• both scale with generic melee stats

[sonic obsidian]

right

[alpine canopy]

I used to do this, but it was way too much effort to keep the "core" updated between all chars, so I just swapped to a single filter

[alpine canopy]

I'm calling it now, fire = warlock, cold = lich
Necro dabbles in all

[turbid dome]

Lore has exploded given we have a fire lich

🐟

[alpine canopy]

The Acolyte follows her own rules

[silk wasp]

Rebuke already exists tho 😜

[wooden mountain]

physical smite conversion could be a sweet item

[turbid dome]

the apostate comes in with the steel chair kinda item

[silk wasp]

Rive Spell conversion so that energy wave node can do something

[sonic obsidian]

holy

[turbid dome]

[sonic obsidian]

I swapped to the multistrike/smite because I noticed alot of my gear wasn't melee specific.

I redid my passives too, and so far it's slightly slower than what I had before, but I can see it's scalability much better and it's way more engaging

I was literally just walking through the trash with consecrated aura before

[turbid dome]

Thicc boi aura paladin does get a lot tankier but does suffer heavily in clear speed once builds get going

[forest kelp]

Finally, I got my second dual health belt after 8 consecutive failed slams

Julra destroyed all my best SC

[turbid dome]

dang

not going for the %increased + cleanse?

[sonic obsidian]

is this good?

what I have right now

[turbid dome]

Are you using the active portion of symbols of hope consistently?

[sonic obsidian]

not very, no

sometimes if I'm taking alot of spike damage yes

[turbid dome]

+2 levels is nice but if your relying on symbols for block chance activating it can mess you up

[sonic obsidian]

ooooh, I could try some volatile reversal

[alpine canopy]

It's mandatory for using the holy burst thing, but it's just an okay build. Otherwise I'd only use it if you're not using the block chance mentioned above

[waxen nymph]

It deals no dmg

[sonic obsidian]

hahahahah YES

[waxen nymph]

Toast, do you know what happen if you echo Multistrike? Do you get swords/Smite?

[turbid dome]

I hope echos uses multistrike and then gets all the bonus smacks

Otherwise the node to give echos additional swords doesn’t make much sense

[waxen nymph]

True

Hum...

[turbid dome]

Cause like yeah it would be two extra smacks per echo

But that just weirdly ignores the entire thing to multistrike

[waxen nymph]

Maybe Multistrike is what I need to make Impair the Weak work

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Br4RgE6A

[sonic obsidian]

got lucky with an ascension rune

[alpine canopy]

Yes, like Engi mentioned it has that support for echoes as well

[alpine canopy]

Hm, since AE scales with spell and you have omni on which will remove its mana cost, I bet void smite instead of swords would be good, or maybe some bleed action

Ooh also speccing abyssal orbs in dorb can get a good amount of extra hits

[twilit valley]

Setting up my laptop that I’ve used once in the last 12 months , not even sure if the specs are good enough , paid a crapload for it when o first got it but been using legion Go for last 12 months .

[forest kelp]

Use it for running Troves speed 2000+, recently played a lot in a party but only has 4k2 health

I have both and will use cleanse when fighting Uber and Nemesis tower

[terse hedge]

how long has Bolster in Smelter's Wrath been broken?

[waxen nymph]

Which one is that?

[terse hedge]

the one that gives you Endurance Threshold and Armor while channeling

[waxen nymph]

That does ring a bell

[terse hedge]

ok I dont think I need to post another Bug report

[waxen nymph]

Just report it ingame then

[terse hedge]

I know it's a slow clearing skill, but it's so darn satisfying to play with

[forest kelp]

This skill makes me think of those bad-breath guys using their breath to kill mobs

[forest kelp]

Finally, I got what I needed at the end of the season 🫂

[pseudo parcel]

Better late than never

mad respect you lasted that long

[forest kelp]

The new content is appealing to me but not too much; I just play for entertainment during my free time while working, so I can play version 1.1 for more than 8 months

[pseudo parcel]

Damn

I'm the opposite, when I'm hooked I just focus on one game until I am done or reached my goals

Season 2 lasted me for 280h or so, that's crazy value

[forest kelp]

More than two weeks of my playing a bit

[pseudo parcel]

3,1k total, damn

I think my highest is 4,7k hours in FFXIV but that's over 12 years

[forest kelp]

Just set your goals a bit higher, like in 1.1, I set my characters to perform well at 1000c, and I actively upgraded their items to achieve this goal

[pseudo parcel]

Oh that's not it, I wanted to smash Uberroth in ssfhc and I did that

After that it was a few other builds I wanted to play and then PoE lured me back

Nowadays I rotate between LE, PoE 1 and 2 and D4 so I'm eating good

But you're right there's always more to do, i.e I never got the triple T7 slam on my Transcribers

Maybe in S3

[forest kelp]

My name is on the fallen list at lvl1 in this season's EHG leaderboard; it's really tough to play in HC mode 🥹

[pseudo parcel]

I love hc in this game

With CoF I can steadily progress and so far all my deaths felt fair and well deserved

Like that one time I lost a Paladin at 99 85% or so because I was impatient and ran a echo I shouldn't have

all because I didn't want to interrupt my session by buying new follys

[forest kelp]

My friend absolutely loves playing Pally Judgement; he told me his character hasn’t died once, but I’m not entirely convinced

[pseudo parcel]

I believe it

The moment you get gloves from Uberroth you go from 800 to 2000 corruption

Unless they nuke it I'll play it as my starter again

[strange snow]

Those are rookie numbers... gotta pump those numbers up
I think I have that much in D3 alone, not sure about d4 probably 2khrs at least, POE 3khrs+, this game 1k+ hours. Who knows in EQ/WoW but from 16-mid 30's lol

[final granite]

People say black blade of chaos is the best for warpath

Is this true?

[waxen nymph]

It is not

[strange snow]

Most I see is clotho's

[pseudo parcel]

I should have a good amount in Aion aswell but it wasn't tracked

[strange snow]

Black Blade is for jav time rot mostly

[final granite]

Yeah but apparently it's only better when you roll perfect stats which isn't possible for most people

I'm using world splitter atm

[strange snow]

Apatha's maw if you want speed

I had more DPS with my Clotho with only increased void damage then I did with melee void damage on world splitter

[final granite]

And when I don't have a good needle?

[reef dawn]

Most of the lines on world splitter don't do much

[final granite]

Keep World splitter?

[strange snow]

Check the dps increase on the tooltip and test on dummies... see what one is better. Should give you an idea

[final granite]

I was just asking professional spin to win bros

[reef dawn]

Since you are channeling, mana cost is irrelevant

[final granite]

Yeah

[reef dawn]

I used clotho

[final granite]

Even without good stuff on it

[strange snow]

Yeah, at least when I tried it was better

[reef dawn]

Yup even off meta stuff works fine. Mine had mana and armor shred lol doing 1500c

Although the mana was kinda nice for longer spins

[final granite]

But the black sword as like 160% critical strike multiplier

[strange snow]

Buy woven echo lostwood folly, place in the woven tree and farm that until you can get a decent clotho.... shouldn't take too long

[final granite]

But isn't crit chance multiplier important too?

The black sword has 160%

[dense tendon]

i have literally never heard of anyone playing black blade warpath this patch

[reef dawn]

Clotho has more flat dmg and flat crit, both pretty big

[dense tendon]

just make a spreadsheet to compare them idk man

[strange snow]

with strength multiplier

[final granite]

Hm ok the whole chat was full like 10 min ago that the black sword is literally the best

I don't know if everyone was just joking

[strange snow]

trolling

[final granite]

Sad

[forest kelp]

You have to say that any Clotho will do if its base stats are good enough, but rolling good enough legendary affixes is just a dream

[final granite]

Ok I will switch back then

[reef dawn]

Clotho also gets crit multi but can be wonky lol

[dense tendon]

honestly i can see black blade being better than world splitter by being a sword and not having terrible attack speed

[final granite]

What does this echo do again

[strange snow]

the 3 you need to kill can drop clotho's needle

[final granite]

Oh

[strange snow]

plus good memory and exp farm if you set it up right

[final granite]

It seems I do the most damage with world splitter

I have 86% crit chance with it, that's probably why

[forest kelp]

With t7 melee crit change?

It's also a good choice before you get a truly good enough Needle

[final granite]

Yes on my splitter, I don't have a needle with that

So atm splitter is definitely stronger than any needle I have

I also have +9 melee void damage on my splitter

[forest kelp]

I spent nearly four months finding a Needle tree that looks decent

[reef dawn]

Well you don't need melee crit on needle since you get the warpath node for swords for +10% crit plus the needle itself can give +8%. As long as crit ain't an issue with splitter should be fine

I guess you can put those 5 points elsewhere if you roll crit haha

[forest kelp]

But you need to find me a better Needle

[reef dawn]

Funny how it only rolled 2 affixes and to max nice

This works surprisingly well as I don't need armor shred elsewhere 😆

More mana spin longer but I'd kill for that T7 atk spd sheesh

[forest kelp]

I roll over 50 Needles with 14WW points each day; it’s really easy

[reef dawn]

I honestly don't bother that low, maybe I should

[forest kelp]

[turbid dome]

bro has all the parry chance

[final granite]

Okay I've found a good needle and a body armor with +4 warpath and have 99% melee critical strike chance while spinning now the needle is way way better than the world splitter lol

[turbid dome]

[final granite]

[sonic obsidian]

I think I'm going to just keep finding ways to make a melee sword shield or two handed sword paladin work

this smite/MS is fun AF lol, Might try to do a fire void cleave/vengeance/HH build

after I build up goooold

but I'm for sure sticking with this smite build for a bit lol

[waxen nymph]

Is it the Crit Hit version or Electrify you are playing?

[quasi forum]

It's probably a bit early, but are there any planned nerfs or buffs to VK or Warpath we know of right now?

...Why did Maxroll beef up Voidpath to S tier .-.

What did EH do to buff it, I must know +w+

[sonic obsidian]

I beleive the crit version, but I don't even have the crit nodes right now and it's working lol

everything I'm doing is fire damage right now, and ignite, I thought about an electric melee paladin too

[waxen nymph]

Nothing official but Time Rot will be nerf for sure