🔱┃sentinel

[warped night]

or attunement

I expect that for forge weapons you'll want plauge dragon's tongue, face of the mountain, falcon fist/immortal vise, tyrant's skull, brewmaster belt, foot of the mountain, and either 2 phantom grips + mantle of the pale ox OR phantom grip + legends entwined + sunforged reforged helm and chest

[silk wasp]

If Uber items are on the table there is no scenario you don't take Shattered Worlds with Sword Catcher and Advent of the Erased

[warped night]

for pure forged weapons I don't think that would be better tbh

[alpine canopy]

I'd probably go with Clotho or sword catcher for VC buffs

[forest kelp]

I heard that a Korean gaming company acquired the game. Will we get more mtx?

[alpine canopy]

Yes, they release new mtx every major patch

[forest kelp]

I just had an AI create a toggle for activating Warpath with .ahk, and it's pretty awesome... but I don't know how to deactivate the running script file yet

[warped night]

clotho is definitely a contender if you can get a halfway decent roll

[forest kelp]

[uneven gorge]

Maybe a battle pass and a few lootboxes too 😅

[mental flare]

i will spend some gold in stash tabs only to be sure (?

[forest kelp]

Full 200 stashes

I wish they would sell an additional stash expansion pack

Warpath is better than ES at killing Orobiss

[mental flare]

true melee certified

[uneven gorge]

You could've stopped at 'Warpath is better than ES' 💪

[polar spire]

couldve stopped at anything is better than ES

[forest kelp]

I wish I had 3lp like @waxen nymph

[mental flare]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-18989905

so happy for you

[red kettle]

Heyhoo guys! Anyone can help me to get a nihilis for my first es vk character? 🙂

[forest kelp]

After spinning around and getting dizzy, my character doesn't know where he've portaled back to 😂

[barren spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B5dKDkzQ

Guys I reach 50% uber abby, what should I upgrade?

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (75)

General:

▸ Health: 2,854, Regen: 471.38/s
▸ Mana: 460.67, Regen: 13.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 110%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 55 Str / 19 Dex / 55 Int / 30 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 160% / 136% / 136% / 148% / 117% / 158% / 186%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 1,215
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (106)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 71% (6,851)
▸ Block Chance: 99%, Mitigation: 61% (3,231)

Used skills:

Judgement / Vengeance / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[uneven gorge]

A few things I'd change:

• Take the 6 points out of Covenent of Dominion and put (5) them into Prayer Aegis. This gives you 75 health and 130 endurance threshold.
• Change the spell leech blessing for health. Judgement is already healing you enough, no?
• Farm for a 3lp Majasa and get reduced damage taken on block and a bit higher block chance. 10% damage reduction from a t5 and 100% block chance goes a long way

[barren spire]

with your changes I reached 30%

do i really need the 3 LP majasa?

I was thinking to enchant the idols with reduce dot dmg

[uneven gorge]

Well you don't NEED it, but it'd help quite a bit. And 3lp majasa is pretty common

[barren spire]

Lol first kill

[uneven gorge]

See 💙

[barren spire]

What should be the 4th suffix?

health?

[uneven gorge]

Yee

[barren spire]

Nope

[uneven gorge]

All resist is also good

[barren spire]

sigh

[forest kelp]

Same mine 😆

[barren spire]

Now the hard part is get a decent imprint shield

[barren spire]

LOL

Should I duplicate it?

[uneven gorge]

What's the block chance roll?

[uneven gorge]

Nah, you'll get better

[barren spire]

not good enough to imprint?

[uneven gorge]

Up to you

[barren spire]

Ofc

[barren spire]

20 minutes fighjt I am at 40%

something is wrong @_@

[forest kelp]

Wtf 20 min

[barren spire]

Yeahp

I can't relaly try a lot cause of the timings

[forest kelp]

17 gained mana plz, 1 affix still best

[gilded gale]

Does unbalanced scale in the Smite tree hit the same enemy multiple times? or does it have to be different Enemies. Probably a dumb question.

[waxen nymph]

It is not a dumb question at all

It doesn't say different enemies

We kinda assumed it 'needs a different enemies

But I have seen a video recently showing that you get extra hit

On single target

[uneven gorge]

It's a bolt per enemy, up to 3 enemies. So you get 1 hit on 1 enemy

[waxen nymph]

Now is it intended or not 🤷

[gilded gale]

Well I'll be. Thank you both.

[waxen nymph]

https://youtu.be/dl1Ur0hs0NI?si=Qv_OfYzCmd972Kdw

At 3.30

Section : "maybe a bug"

[uneven gorge]

Huh, ye I would assume that's not intended. EHG don't usually like anything shotgunning without a drawback

[barren spire]

How do i farm mana gained when you use vengeance ?

[forest kelp]

Craft

[barren spire]

how?

[forest kelp]

Ytb search last epoch crafting, bro

[barren spire]

I mean is it a normal drop?

Is it from mages?

[uneven gorge]

Runes of havoc can shuffle the tiers, so you make a t1 mana gained into t7

[barren spire]

Oki but is it a normal drop?

[uneven gorge]

Ye

[gilded gale]

Any chance we know if Pillars of light will also cast the lightning bolt?

[gilded gale]

Wouldn't the added mana cost be the drawback?

And it's only one extra bolt per enemy? don't know if I'd call that strictly "shotgunning" if it's just 2 hits.

[uneven gorge]

Hardly. Usually they gut the damage. With multistrike it's -80% damage. With shurikens it's -50% projectiles. With hundering souls it's -63% damage. A bit more mana cost is nothing. And it's obviously helping significantly in the damage department in Perry's vid

[uneven gorge]

That's what the bug is supposedly - It's hitting all three if I'm not mistaken

[gilded gale]

perhaps I should watch the video he posted before asking more questions. Apologies for my ignorance.

[uneven gorge]

All good. But ye, that one node adds like 2mil damage

[forest kelp]

Using the Blessing 650 armor while I'm revving up, sometimes the bike runs out of gas, and I often die suddenly because the armor drops drastically 🥹

[barren spire]

What ios the easiest way to get A LOT of runes of havoc?

[forest kelp]

https://youtu.be/NBso5jFo3iI?si=6TzlTqBRdBxovb66

[waxen nymph]

I actually don't know

But should be very easy to test on the dummies

[barren spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYZ8lD2A

Character updated, i still cant kill Uber Abby @_@

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (75)

General:

▸ Health: 2,916, Regen: 484.12/s
▸ Mana: 460.67, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 110%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 55 Str / 19 Dex / 55 Int / 30 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 160% / 136% / 136% / 149% / 117% / 158% / 186%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 1,357
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (106)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 73% (7,616)
▸ Block Chance: 103%, Mitigation: 62% (3,320)

Used skills:

Judgement / Vengeance / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[barren spire]

Something else I should change?

[reef dawn]

Your relic should have +4 judgement, not poison res

Also the transcriber graver is a better weapon than cleaver (you are missing out alot on flat spell dmg)

I see you are using it for stat stacking with red rings. But honestly the midnight ring and sunwreath are great and come with more LP

Melee attack speed is also great for dmg and survivability on gloves instead of mana

Lastly healing effect also adds to flat spell and fire pen so try to get that as your 2nd affix on things like rings and +4 judgement comes with it too

[barren spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AK7Va5GA

I changed my build to this, let me know what youn think

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (73)

General:

▸ Health: 2,798, Regen: 441.78/s
▸ Mana: 433.39, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 9 Dex / 9 Int / 19 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 174% / 116% / 116% / 90% / 79% / 114% / 142%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 1,191
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,272)
▸ Block Chance: 100%, Mitigation: 61% (3,170)

Used skills:

Judgement / Vengeance / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[barren spire]

I can farm the dragon relic but Im not sure it's better than this one

I can also equip the the winged gloves but again I'm not sure if the are better

[reef dawn]

Shattered world's is nice because of the DR and haste so it pairs well with the boots for DOT DR. You really do want those 4 skill points tho. If you go dragon relic then you need a way to apply haste which is where winged gloves comes in

The changed rings and weapon are all solid

[alpine canopy]

With multistrike it's just +3 mana cost per sword, no damage penalty

[uneven gorge]

Oh ye, true. It desperately needed it tho

[alpine canopy]

Oh absolutely, that one node turned MS from a trash tier skill to competitive

[uneven gorge]

Just now realized I wrote multistrike - I meant multiSHOT

[turbid dome]

[mental flare]

btw you are not reaching 180 stat for the red ring

or i'm missing something?

[turbid dome]

they have 187, make sure to hit actual on the planner

[mental flare]

do "Increased Echo Damage When A Skill Echoes" apply only to the next instance of damage or it's for 4 sec or something

[turbid dome]

the last I thought about that it was 4 seconds

[mental flare]

nasty with fast attacks like multistrike then, a must

[turbid dome]

• the extra strikes inherent to multi strike aren't echos
• I'm fairly certain procing it while the effect is still active just refreshes the duration rather than stacking

tho also I've never tested that so thats my assumption

[mental flare]

yeah only counting echos is enough but hard to meassure since you have like 200 numbers on screen from each strike

[turbid dome]

cause like 80% echo chance rive would be stupid if it stacked

[mental flare]

didn't know it could reach that number lol

i don't use rive tho

[turbid dome]

one of the nodes in Rive's void corner doubles echo chance with it

[mental flare]

true melee ret$%@

[barren spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AK7Va5GA

Inchnaged build

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (73)

General:

▸ Health: 2,798, Regen: 441.78/s
▸ Mana: 433.39, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 18%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 40 Str / 9 Dex / 9 Int / 19 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 174% / 116% / 116% / 90% / 79% / 114% / 142%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 53%, Threshold: 1,191
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (36)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,272)
▸ Block Chance: 100%, Mitigation: 61% (3,170)

Used skills:

Judgement / Vengeance / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[mental flare]

if it's for bossing

and you are not dealing crit strikes

vaion chariot?

(boots)

i mean, only if you need it

either 1 ms slam or hybrid health or whatever

[barren spire]

I Just Need to kill Uber abby once and uninstall the game 🤣

So any idea to make it possible is welcome

[mental flare]

they releasing uber uber abby next season btw

[barren spire]

Yeah but I would like to do it now tbh

[uneven gorge]

Now the ENTIRE arena is a dot 😁

[waxen nymph]

Reroll a falconer or a Serpent Strike druid

[barren spire]

Man I have a lvl 100 sentinel, come on 🤣

[waxen nymph]

Both have setup that os him with a single t7 slam

[barren spire]

I don't think there is no way to do it

[mental flare]

praise the turtle, the turtle giveth and the turtle taketh

not bad, ready to fail the slam

[strange snow]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olnON9OQ can anyone recommend any upgrades? lp2 world splitter getting tough to find

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,209, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,205.11, Regen: 16.32/s
▸ Attributes: 39 Str / 0 Dex / 0 Int / 7 Att / 19 Vit
▸ Resistances: 110% / 82% / 90% / 120% / 98% / 101% / 69%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 74%, Threshold: 1,332
▸ Armor Mitigation: 66% (5,483)

Used skills:

Erasing Strike / Symbols of Hope / Devouring Orb / Anomaly / Healing Hands

[turbid dome]

personally I'd aim for a belt with %increased life (T7) and aliment cleanse on potion chug (T1)

%increased life is just better than hybrid health (belts are the only slot that can have both)

I would also reccomend a lot more +5 vit 1x2 weaver idols

[strange snow]

hmm lot of guides and vids I've seen use hybrid health

[turbid dome]

its just math

where x is health before any %increase

the remove aliments on potion chug is for uber void boi when he cuts your damage in half (also if you get the mimic bros gloves)

oh wait

you need armor shred on your gloves

sustaining 40 armor shred stacks = 40% more void damage

[strange snow]

that over mana t7?

[turbid dome]

ideally both, but you dont need the shred to be exalted... you would need some armor shred idols tho to sustain 40 stacks

idols like this

[strange snow]

these better?

[strange snow]

don't have any with shred and echo dmg

[turbid dome]

losing the armor to dot hurts a lot but in terms of damage yeah

[turbid dome]

yea gotta go find them

max out your weaver tomb and cemetery chance on the weaver tree (that cluster directly up from start) and get farmin'

or if your merchants guild buy them

[strange snow]

cof, cool got plenty to work on now. thank you

[turbid dome]

bonus help: your passive tree looks solid

just gotta do the big grind

[strange snow]

yeah, my prob is just finding some double exalted items as well heh

[turbid dome]

tho if you feel your getting crit a lot, drop some points from abyssal endurance and put them into the blind node in paladin

[turbid dome]

best of luck

make sure your using the imprint feature

[strange snow]

and trying to load up ton of prophecies

[turbid dome]

you get it

[strange snow]

lp2 world splitter from nemesis finally heh

[turbid dome]

good luck on the slam

[strange snow]

thanks

[alpine canopy]

Okay, using the new set ring, what are peoples' thoughts on multistrike with shattered lance, vessel, cleaver, and last bear?
~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0p8yPXQ
I'm sure there is likely a better skill for AE's spec, like rebuke or a specced traversal, idk. Anyone got any better skill picks?

[mental flare]

holy F***

[uneven gorge]

Smite might be better than abyssal echoes. You can make it a traversal skill, also give you 20% attack speed, chance to cleanse ailments, chance to blind

Tho AE does have guaranteed blind, which you sort of need

[alpine canopy]

Interesting, I hadn't considered smite for the buffs + traversal. AE gives 20% attack speed too though, in addition to 20% more damage multi

[uneven gorge]

Yup yup

Also looking at lunge and never realized this node exists >.>

[polar spire]

Toast you've been here for years, how have you just realized

[alpine canopy]

lol well, I don't always think of every option for everything

[polar spire]

Even with me over the years calling smite the best traversel

[alpine canopy]

unspecced VR is pretty good now

[polar spire]

Can target someone through 5 buildings and appear behind them like "parry this you filthy casual"

[mental flare]

what about proc healing hands with multistrike while also making the casted version a traversal skill?

didn't test it myself tho

[polar spire]

Good one yes

Can do that with smite too

[mental flare]

yeah (i can't do that cause smite is not true melee 😔 )

[polar spire]

What is "true" melee, no ones ever used "true" before until im just now coming back

You mean just melee?

[mental flare]

nah just my joke, take big weapon deal big melee damage, physical only => true melee

[polar spire]

2h mace shield basher

[mental flare]

100% true melee certified

[polar spire]

Ive seen others mention true melee too though

The heck

I thought it was in reference to indirect and direct attacks

[mental flare]

maybe there are more ranged attack haters out there

[uneven gorge]

True melee usually refers to being up in the enemy's face. Whereas you can hit something from 50 meters away with something like flame reave even if it's technically melee

[mental flare]

did someone tested multistrike with high stun chance?

[forest kelp]

Is there a source that significantly boosts damage when mobs are stunned? If not, it’s a bad idea

[mental flare]

yeah it is, let see if i can remember the name

[mental flare]

so usually mobs do not live enough to get stunned, but this is the only item i recall right now that will boost damage since it's a "more" not an increased

best of luck tho since its a WW not an LP one

[forest kelp]

Press G and fill in "stun" to learn about its mechanics

[mental flare]

explain

[forest kelp]

You remind me of when I was playing Pally Judgment and accidentally slammed an affix that increases stun chance, wondering why it still had no effect after hitting for so long, until I learned more about it 🫂

[mental flare]

lol didn't realize you were answering my question

too late to do the math now tho

[forest kelp]

You need a sufficiently high amount of damage per hit to trigger a stun effect, and for bosses, this number is much higher. With that amount of damage, you can also kill the boss very quickly

[mental flare]

yeah but i assumed LE had Stun Buildup => multiple smaller hits can stun the same as just one big hit

[alpine canopy]

No, there are no status buildups like that in LE

Each hit independently rolls its stun chance, and if you deal a very low % of the boss's max health per hit, it may have 0% chance

[mental flare]

thanks, my main goal was just crit multi so i didn't spent any slam with stun, somehow i assumed stun buildup existed without checking at all lol

[forest kelp]

Low damage with many hits in this game will only work for building ailment stacks 🫂

Farmed for over three weeks and only got one

[forest kelp]

I have a 41% block chance when using Warpath and Needle. Does the double effect of this passive node still apply?

[waxen nymph]

Should because needle concert to parry

[forest kelp]

Because it doesn't completely convert block change to parry on the character sheet like other stat conversions, I'm a bit hesitant

[waxen nymph]

Would be a good question for Mike

[forest kelp]

2'30" for Uber with my VK warpath

[forest kelp]

Struggling with the passive for void shield throw🫡

[waxen nymph]

?

You don't know what to spec?

[forest kelp]

I'm just torn between the role options for this build to allocate points effectively 😅

[polar spire]

no not my ranged edge of screen forge strikes!

[polar spire]

if you play multistrike/forge strike, yes

since forge strike gets 1:1 dot dmg increase with stun chance

the new ember amulet might be what is needed to push ignite forge strike over bleed forge strike

i like how many more builds these days can hybrid dot/crit and actually work compared to years ago

[dense tendon]

it doesnt apply and i think i saw mike say it's a bug like 2 months ago

[grizzled ravine]

is it fine to run ES with a 0.3 world splitter, cuz ive unable to get another world splitter after like 30+ harbs

[waxen nymph]

It's fine to start with yeah

[green gale]

why does Paladin use Transcriber Graver is it literally just for the penetration?

[silk wasp]

Attack speed, spell damage, penetration

[polar spire]

a lot use Dragorath's as well

good on Paladin Manifest Armor

Wrouk has consistently held #1 on leaderboard with manifest armor paladin for a time, drago's is top notch

prob a good farming build too, since he always takes #1

weapons not even for us, good for us lol

[green gale]

yeah thats so weird after googling that i would of never considered it had I gotten it as a drop. Same for Transcriber

this is my first time playing since EA and my first time on sentinel at all it seems so busted

[forest kelp]

Because there hasn't been any other choice yet

[mental flare]

any source penetration is strong af, around 20% in just 1 item is really good

best T7 on amulet is 15%

[polar spire]

dragorath

[forest kelp]

Dagger?

If using a sword, it will be possible to add 40% attack speed with the passive

[warped night]

yeah but if it's for a spell damage manifest armor then the dagger makes a lot of sense

[mental flare]

praise the turtle, the turtle giveth and the turtle taketh

not the best tbh but at least it's something

[strange snow]

hmm clotho from normal cemetery... thought it was just lostwood folly

[waxen nymph]

It's anywhere you encounter Fateweaver Clotho boss

[mental flare]

do sealed affixed are taken into account for rune of havoc?

[warped night]

nope

[alpine canopy]

Clotho, Atropos, and Lachesis all appear in tombs, one of them is the end boss at random. The Firstborn is always the boss in normal cemeteries.

[mental flare]

can i use an armor of a different class to slam? like an exalted mage helmet and a unique helmet available to all classes

[warped night]

yes, so long as you don't slam class-specific affixes

and as long as the base unique isn't class-specific

i.e. kermode's cage

[mental flare]

praise the turtle, the turtle giveth and the turtle taketh

nice

[modern wadi]

Am I just unlucky or are good judgement hats actually the hardest thing to find on the whole build?

[astral crater]

Swear they gotta be

Red rings are easier to come by than a good helm smh

[modern wadi]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Aerandria/character/Judgement

I've got like 20 red rings, but look at my hat...

and that's even with 3 imprint slots on weaver tree for helmet 💀

[astral crater]

I was about to ask what were you cooking with some of the equipment but then saw you’re doing hc, then it started making sense

[modern wadi]

Monument of Protection is incredible for HC. I farm at 300 corruption and can trivially walk away from my computer in almost any mob if I'm playing at work and something comes up. Once I roll life on block enchant on the last of my idols I think I'll have like 160 health on block 😤

[forest kelp]

what hat?

Leonine?

Hard for me

[astral crater]

Gonna throw my build in later and ask why I can facetank uber slam with nihilis but not orian’s eye, maybe cuz one had more dmg while other doesn’t so no leech?

[modern wadi]

that'd be an upgrade for me!

[astral crater]

Your helmet would be an upgrade for me 💔

[forest kelp]

Hard to find another with dual t7

Maybe upgrade for me too 😁

[modern wadi]

I'm like a million favor into exalted helmet prophecies, give me some of your luck haha

[forest kelp]

Nemesis

Dont spend favor

Imprint after got sample

Prophecies for exalted are pretty lame, only suitable for new players who have nothing in hand

[modern wadi]

wait what do you mean

I do hundreds of nems a day and they havent given me a good helmet T_T

I assume there's some strategy I'm missing?

[forest kelp]

You just need to find a base item with any dual t7 affixes and imprint it. It can drop dual t7 with Leonine, then simply swap out Leonine to continue imprinting

[modern wadi]

ah so you mean nems just to get the dual t7 leonine, got it

I'll make a filter rule, thanks

[forest kelp]

It's not mandatory for the type to be Leonine; the type of the base item has a higher chance of imprinting the same type, but it can also imprint a different type

Finding any helmet with any dual T7 affixes from Nemesis is much easier than spending favor on prophecies to find it

[gleaming pine]

the problem is you are imprinting your current helmet, which you should pretty much never do. especially in your case, your current helm has no t7 on it at all and it has 0 fp. The most important things when imprinting is 1. Most number of t7s, 2. high FP. item type and affixes come after that

[modern wadi]

Good to know, I wasn't taking imprinting as seriously as I should have, apparently. I figured it was a tiny bump and I was basically just grinding out normal drops.

I figured a few thousand hours of prophecies would get me there some year XD

[gleaming pine]

manipulation of the imprint system is pretty much how kuden has triple t7 slammed legendaries

[modern wadi]

hot. I'm a little offended it's that OP. my 'grind forever' sensibilities XD

[gleaming pine]

its going to be interesting to see if they tone it down or anything, because imagine a 3 t7 exalt with a sealed t8 (Primordial exalt)

[forest kelp]

I don't think so because I've seen an Exalted with 6 affixes in the new trailer

[forest kelp]

failed again, missed void damage t7

[waxen nymph]

[barren spire]

Is there a trick to doge aberoth blue waves? I always reach the last phase with 5-6 stacks and I get rekt

[forest kelp]

He will signal you, and you just need to stop attacking and run in the opposite direction

Most cases where they couldn't dodge, from what I've seen, are because they were too eager to keep attacking him relentlessly

[barren spire]

FINALYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

IM FREEEEEE!

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-gif-9146629354091509191

It took way too long but it's done, I'm happy and I can wait for the next patch 😊

[forest kelp]

Will t7 mana + crit multi provide better damage than that amulet? For Warpath VK

[waxen nymph]

Don't know

[forest kelp]

If compared to T7 mana + increased void damage, it only slightly outperforms in terms of ailments, but not significantly, since I also have an amulet like that and have tested it

[forest kelp]

Using Holy Warpath feel abit like cheating 😆

I'm trying to imagine @waxen nymph chicken claw in this situation

[waxen nymph]

Wow wow wow

Chicken claw?!?

[forest kelp]

Ur mtx skill

[silent storm]

How fast is it? What's your fastest kill with it

[waxen nymph]

You mean the mighty dragon claw then

[forest kelp]

2'30" now

[silent storm]

Wow

In a world of broken builds warpath is actually balanced

[verbal vapor]

And this has been bricks with Kuden

I failed 4 2LP vise today

[forest kelp]

I've slammed nearly 15 times but only succeeded once

[barren spire]

What build is it?

[waxen nymph]

Warpath VK

[forest kelp]

These aren't the affixes I'm aiming for when playing ES VK, but it's the best I have, so I'm still using it. I'm trying to find another Vise to replace it

[turbid dome]

do you have any idea how little that narrows it down Vlad

theres like 15 warpath bulds

[mental flare]

but only physical damage warpath is true melee

[waxen nymph]

Warpath VK?
That's like 2 builds at most

Melee and Smite Warpath

[turbid dome]

if we want to get technical we can could like every weapon combo as a different warpath

[waxen nymph]

[turbid dome]

Each combo wants different things

[forest kelp]

Yesterday, I saw a pretty strong void smite build using Omnividence, but unfortunately, it runs on VR

[mental flare]

Paladin Fire Warpath (not true melee)
VK void Warpath (not true melee)
Palading Warpath Smite (not true melee)
Physical VK/Paladin (100% true melee)

[turbid dome]

Holy void gang, another person who uses omnividence?

[turbid dome]

Throwing warpath -> melee

[mental flare]

heresy

[forest kelp]

https://youtu.be/q3cRQDu9Bhk?si=LHzcdJiq6bjhC6Ph

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

Phys FG

[mental flare]

sadly FG is a non canon paladin subclass 😔

sentinel*

[waxen nymph]

He is the True Phys Melee

He is the embodiment of the spirit of Steel

[mental flare]

too much fire support imho, not enough phys penetration/crit shit

[turbid dome]

I still want the 4th mastery for sentinel to be pure phys focused

Cast off the need for the gods/higher powers

[dense tendon]

4th mastery?

[verbal vapor]

True melee

[turbid dome]

Somewhere sometime I vaguely remember a dev saying 4th masteries are probably going to be a thing

Found it

Thanks Mike from a few months ago

[alpine canopy]

VK has quite a bit of phys support, for some reason

[turbid dome]

Vk lost a chunk of it with the rework

Which fair enough vk needed it way less now that more skills have void converts

• those nodes were almost certainly made when weapons inherently gave physical, not adaptive damage, so more reason for phys support

[forest kelp]

FG is like a wayward child

[alpine canopy]

True

They kept their phys pen node only, though a lot of their stuff is generic melee I guess I just still had that impression for some reason

[turbid dome]

Yeah sorrow and steel was the real phys damage hold out until the rework

Tho echos really make any kind of damage a lot stronger

[alpine canopy]

Yeah for real

[mental flare]

DAMN he didn't put down the 6th class either

what a king

[turbid dome]

[mental flare]

either primalist deserves a berserk subclass or the next class is something berserk oriented

[turbid dome]

I could see the Beserker stuff being move out of beast master

And base Primalist

[forest kelp]

No wand 3x7

[turbid dome]

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, they do intend to do that as well, in the far future probably tho

[turbid dome]

Inb4 chronomancer class

[alpine canopy]

plz

A legit void caster would be awesome

[turbid dome]

make them a nagasa assistant to Julra and she got angry and yeeted you out of the sanctum

[alpine canopy]

lol

[polar spire]

They have that, its called bottom row beastmaster sharkzerker

You can get to actually game breaking attack speeds

Like actual breaks the game and is bad

If i remember right, sharkzerker is like 500%+ attack speed if not higher

And i think the game starts breaking around 400%+

But i'd bet if you ran it with the slow hit hammer it'd just hit moderately fast and not break and hit like a truck

[mental flare]

how wtf

[reef dawn]

Tempest strike goes brr

[polar spire]

shark aspect affix helm and chest, relic, and idols

and then shark stacking

[tardy mirage]

i mean ignoring masteries thats litterally what warcry does

lel

[mental flare]

never played that class

it shows lol

[warped night]

yeah lol, swipe beastmaster has really high boss dps

[waxen nymph]

Noice

For what build?

[forest kelp]

Upgrade for ES VK

[waxen nymph]

Oo

Is that better than Midnight?

[forest kelp]

10% more damage, more stun and mana lol

But less ms

I have over 140ms, so an additional 20ms is negligible for me unless I'm using boots that increased damage based on ms

[zenith hinge]

Hi if I was building a bleed hammer throw which stat would increase dot more - 120% damage over time, 120% physical damage, 36% throwing attack speed (anything else max T7 that you can think of that I haven't put) or do would they all add the same amount of extra dmage to the dot - specifically talking about for rings/gloves/relics

[polar spire]

think i'll season start my old forge guard

its just such a breeze easy build

that new ammy lookin good for bleed/ignite forge strikes

[turbid dome]

YOLO on an untested build you thought up 5 minutes before league start gang where you at

[silk wasp]

I've been wanting to try an Obsidian Hammer/Communion build.

[waxen nymph]

??

Communion ?

[waxen nymph]

Oh I see

Is that to get double More Dmg to stunned enemies?

[silk wasp]

Yes

With Infinite Bulwark it isnt hard to keep the potions flowing

[waxen nymph]

Hum with short stun duration is, I don't think thats a very good archetype

[uneven gorge]

Me and my multistrike bleed pali 🫡

[forest kelp]

Smite?

[uneven gorge]

nop

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Av3peE7Q

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (65)

General:

▸ Health: 3,327, Regen: 433.64/s
▸ Mana: 191.26, Regen: 11.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 46%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 93 Str / 23 Dex / 23 Int / 35 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 208% / 132% / 132% / 138% / 151% / 135% / 133%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 2,553
▸ Dodge Chance: 31% (1077)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,898)
▸ Block Chance: 96%, Mitigation: 51% (2,108)

Used skills:

Multistrike / Holy Aura / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes

[mental flare]

good slamed lp2, blessed

[mental flare]

how is bossing without crits?

[uneven gorge]

Fine. I can kill normal abby in about a minute, and normal bosses in like10 seconds

Can't do uber abby tho

yet

[waxen nymph]

Eulogy of Blood ??

I guess 35% Bleed Duration

No Blood of the Exile ??

[uneven gorge]

Best unqiue axe for bleed. Undisputed is pretty much the same but needs ramping up even more

[uneven gorge]

I'm converting endurance threshold into bleed duration

[uneven gorge]

An exalted would do better though, I just don't have it

[waxen nymph]

Flame Burst just for an extra Hit with 200% More Dmg ,?

I guess your procc it real quick on boss

Oo Dodge Rating Blessing

Noice

[uneven gorge]

I hit so often enemies literally glow like a lightbulb because of it

[waxen nymph]

127% Bleed Duration

[uneven gorge]

~270% while standing

[waxen nymph]

So not sure you need Eulogy, no ?

[uneven gorge]

With close call and a bunch of enemies hitting, you can get way higher bleed duration

[waxen nymph]

Lol

[uneven gorge]

No, not really

[waxen nymph]

35% Duration when you could get 255% Inc Dmg from Undisputed ?

[forest kelp]

I like crit damage

[uneven gorge]

I tested it and it was pretty much the same numbers so I didn't bother. If I get a higher lp undisputed tho I'd just switch

[mental flare]

i would like to see that tbh

[uneven gorge]

Both gave around 34m bleed pops

[mental flare]

another argentum enjoyer i see

[waxen nymph]

Pretty great

[mental flare]

amazing, and true melee also

[waxen nymph]

Thoughts on Flayer Pride ?

[turbid dome]

Bleed 👍

Hmm

Flayers pride + that bleed twohanded sword forge guard?

The wengari one

[waxen nymph]

Torkefin ?

[turbid dome]

Yea

[waxen nymph]

I tried Torkefin + Flayer >Shield Throw

I wasnt convinced

[turbid dome]

Darn

[waxen nymph]

But maybe with Forge Strike it would be better

Like Jav + Forge Strike , Amadora style

[turbid dome]

Hmm

Flayers pride + essence weaver + forge strike

• spear for the crit multi to pen node in forge strike
• essence weaver to trigger spells and apply more bleeds

Hmm

Maybe multi strike that then triggers forge strike

So you can stack the essence weaver faster

[uneven gorge]

Good, but majasa's is just too good for survivability

[turbid dome]

True

I wonder how majasa’s will be changed

[gusty abyss]

Maybe by just nerfing block DR across the board?

[turbid dome]

Hmm

Across the board would still leave it as the best option

[gusty abyss]

if max block DR is 40% at 15k effectiveness, that its a much more balanced amount of dot DR at 12-13%

now going from 85 to 40 is extreme, but you understand the point.

[turbid dome]

Ohhh in that regard

Yea I could see that

[alpine canopy]

Block not even able to reduce damage by half just sounds wrong

[gusty abyss]

The current ~42% DR at 1500, which nearly every shield has by existing is a little strong though.

Thats what 75% all resist gives or 4600 armor (2500 for phys). To be fair resist also works for dots.

[uneven gorge]

Using a shield also usually means you're heavily nerfing your damage potential, unlike every other defensive layer

Like if I just swap to a 2 handed axe I add 10m damage

[mental flare]

current content (for sentinel) don't quite require the shield defensive layer tho

only if you want to push over 600/700 c

right?

[gusty abyss]

30% damage vs at least double EHP? Thats a complete no brainer if your lacking defenses

[uneven gorge]

Ye, but the limiting factor for builds is usually damage, not tankiness. Using a shield doesn't automatically mean you can do 1000+ corruption, but the damage that comes with using a 2 hander often is the enabler. I.e. world splitter

[alpine canopy]

Shields don't give automatic 100% block chance, it does take some investment. Granted nowadays specifically for sentinel, it's not much investment. If anything needs a nerf, it's that

[gusty abyss]

Block chance isnt going back into the box easily

[uneven gorge]

Fr, every other class struggles to even make use of block

[alpine canopy]

I don't want to have to explain to new people that not only does blocking not prevent all damage, it only prevents like 30%... oof

[gusty abyss]

If block effect isnt nerfed, next season will have every minion build using t-rex with mountain shield xD

[turbid dome]

Gotta tell them that parry is path of exile’s block

[alpine canopy]

[alpine canopy]

If face is the problem, nerf face imo. Give it X% less block effect or something.

I don't think any amount of convincing is going to make it feel right for blocking a hit to give about the same DR as a glancing hit

[gusty abyss]

yeah, I could just see them double effectivness requirement to hit DR cap.

I mean, they said they dont want people face tanking Uberroth, but that is exactly what shield enables.

[turbid dome]

Bastion of honor stocks are up if they do that

[gusty abyss]

I don't see block staying as is without either multiple changes, or just tapped block effectiveness

[alpine canopy]

Block probably does deserve a nerf overall for sure

[turbid dome]

Block will most likely get a change, I can’t see them making it that large of a change tho

[uneven gorge]

Would that even be worth it? You'd be using so many of your suffixes on endurance% that you'd be struggling with resistances, armour, health. You'd need high lp. Bastion of honour seems way better with rex

[turbid dome]

Yea

Bastion of honor + cleaver solution rex

Strength stack to juice the rex and get free capped block chance to save investment into block chance

[gusty abyss]

More multi is strong though.

[alpine canopy]

Bastion requires you to be close, face doesn't but is weaker as a tradeoff, idk I can see uses for both

[turbid dome]

I think bastions “free 100% block” given the context of strength stacking is a big enough upside

[gusty abyss]

and the stats are shared with your minions, not all of them need phys pen or melee damage

all minions benefit from more multi

[turbid dome]

Because you free up a lot of investment into block chance to get more damage

[alpine canopy]

I don't think you free up anything, you'll want to invest in both str and endurance either way probably

[gusty abyss]

Melee minion build wants str for sure, and if it is phys based minions than cleaver will fit

but not all minions are that

[alpine canopy]

Yeah like FW or some MA builds

In the context of sentinel, it's most of them anyway

[turbid dome]

Yeah you replace the block chance investment with strength, that with the talked about build is a lot of pen and flat damage for mr T. rex

Probs shoulda worded it as replace block chance investment with strength

Instead of free up

[alpine canopy]

Well no, with face you get your block chance from endurance instead

Which gives a more damage and more health multi

[uneven gorge]

Max endurance you can get is about 300%. That's 60% more damage for your other minions, and costing you a whole bunch of t7's. Whereas cleaver can give you up to 600 flat melee and 200% phys pen. I can see a use for the endurance ver, but I honestly don't think it's worth the investment

[turbid dome]

Yeah the flat + pen > the endurance scaling

[uneven gorge]

Not to mention the 400% increased damage strength itself gives

[turbid dome]

Er wait isn’t it 1% more health and damage per 1% endurance

[uneven gorge]

ye

[turbid dome]

Op wait I misread your message

Read 60% more as the Rex’s more damage

[uneven gorge]

Ye, assuming your using it to buff your other minions at 20% effectiveness

[turbid dome]

Yeah I think the stupid amount of flat alone wins out here

[waxen nymph]

Red line was for smth else

It was annoying scrolling here and in another convo to see the relic 😅

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

I wonder how it will play with Forge Weapons

[turbid dome]

Plus I never feel great with overcapping endurance %

[waxen nymph]

¨Probably not great since they are temporary and we dont know how often that thing roars

[turbid dome]

• the roar frequency is probs balanced around minion horde necro

[waxen nymph]

Honeslty as a Sentinel main I am more interested in the ignite Amulet

[turbid dome]

Post the picture Vlad

[waxen nymph]

Chef !

[alpine canopy]

If we're talking about buffing your FWs for example, str doesn't give them anything

[turbid dome]

Strength gives mr rex damage that then gets shared

At an unknown frequency

[uneven gorge]

Oh damn ur right

[alpine canopy]

You'd want both str and endurance either way

[uneven gorge]

that feels like a crime

[turbid dome]

I want to try Paladin with just rex

[forest kelp]

Any ideas for it?

[alpine canopy]

Could make some crazy ignite build interesting

[uneven gorge]

Then lets assume summon bear as an example, which would

[waxen nymph]

With how much Fire Res you get as Paladin or FG

[alpine canopy]

I like that it seems to basically unlock ignite prolif, so we could use "big beefy single-ish target ignite skill" potentially

[turbid dome]

Shred and flat is kinda mid for a dot sword sadly

With attack speed and fire pen I guess ignite?

[waxen nymph]

Self Cast Smite ??

[uneven gorge]

I threw together a vengeance build for that amulet, got 500% res https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A1EqvwZA

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (24) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (76)

General:

▸ Health: 2,509, Regen: 367.88/s
▸ Mana: 170.81, Regen: 10.88/s
▸ Ward Retention: 48%, Regen: 16/s
▸ Attributes: 108 Str / 16 Dex / 16 Int / 26 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 513% / 146% / 176% / 168% / 141% / 143% / 127%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 1,463
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (316)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 81% (14,161)
▸ Block Chance: 95%, Mitigation: 51% (2,147)

Used skills:

Vengeance / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Holy Aura / Smite

[turbid dome]

Can smelters wrath be used for a big fat ignite

[alpine canopy]

Might need a bigger skill

[turbid dome]

Then said big ignite gets passed around from everyone you smack

[alpine canopy]

I was going to ask this except judgment

[turbid dome]

Like if an enemy has ignites on them, it can still spread to them right

[alpine canopy]

Pally got the big ignite supports for some reason

[uneven gorge]

Will be intersting to see how it works with this node

[alpine canopy]

I'm assuming it works like warlock spreads, so each stack can spread to a whole pack independently of all other stacks

[waxen nymph]

This could be good

[gusty abyss]

if we ignore the repeat cast mechanic, warpath warriors fury should get some good multi

[turbid dome]

Don’t forget stoked flames

Given we’re already igniting a bunch

[turbid dome]

And maybe furnace for just more ignites too

[uneven gorge]

Hear me out: Ignite lunge

[turbid dome]

That might be too many points

[waxen nymph]

You had to mention it, didnt you

[turbid dome]

If like everything on lunge didn’t require it to kill stuff, sure

[forest kelp]

Work with convert too

[turbid dome]

Furnace gets a few ignites out there -> hey look like 100% more damage

[waxen nymph]

??

No convert in Smelter

[forest kelp]

I said it has an effect on Smite's conversions

[waxen nymph]

The node you replied to is in Smetler

Smth like this ?

[turbid dome]

maybe Kuden meant ignites from smite?

[forest kelp]

Damn it, I confused

[waxen nymph]

But I am a bit more interested in Forge Strike

[alpine canopy]

We could be insane, like battle standard ignite

[mental flare]

do these work together? proc healling hands on multistrike, 100% chance, instead of being casted around the target is casted on me, so i get the damage reduction from the nodes of the right

first time using HH

[turbid dome]

yea

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-no-angry-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-5606969

[turbid dome]

melee trigger healing hands its casted on the guy you melee smack so it will hit you

[waxen nymph]

But I dont think Ignite is strong enough to go with a cooldown skill like that

[alpine canopy]

Not sure if the targeting node works well, but it's easy to get the buff regardless

[waxen nymph]

You need a lot of stacks

[alpine canopy]

Maybe yeah

[turbid dome]

@waxen nymph I was thinking this to just cause a ton of ignites while charging wrath and then you apply a really really big ignites when you release it

then the amulet spreads the really big ignite around

[alpine canopy]

VC has some unique ignite scaling, but probably not good enough to build on...

[waxen nymph]

Maybe it will be time to get a 1h dragon axe with the champion meteor affix and primal bleed / ignite chance

[turbid dome]

cooldown kinda kills it I think

[waxen nymph]

EQ could be crazy imo

[turbid dome]

how dare you correct my inability to read

[waxen nymph]

twice

[alpine canopy]

I look at the charge time on smelters like a cooldown, except backwards... I'll call it a warmup

[turbid dome]

gotta build up your wrath

[alpine canopy]

Yeah for sure, and it can be bhuldar's

[turbid dome]

this probably wants hubris gloves to leverage bleed-y boi chance into ignite

[waxen nymph]

Must be

[alpine canopy]

Vengeance was mentioned earlier, I think that might be one of the more chill options. If they fix that phys pen per phys res to convert to fire anyway, think I heard it doesn't convert atm.

[waxen nymph]

Sadge there is much Fire support in Primalist

[alpine canopy]

Swarmblade with bhuldar + fire tornadoes

[turbid dome]

I think someone said lich is getting more cold support, I hope it also gets more fire support

[alpine canopy]

It might, though it does seem like they are leaning in to warlock = fire, lich = cold

Just my guess anyway

[turbid dome]

I wana cosplay as the fire lich boss

[alpine canopy]

Speaking of warlock, that amulet does give generic ignite chance... maybe a witchfire thing?

[turbid dome]

tho I guess lich could get a lot of build around nodes added to reaper form

and the more generic stat nodes get reduced

[modern wadi]

if it's good enough for ignite to be a top or near top tier build on multiple classes that will be sick for team play next season, with that node on enchant weapon that blows up ignites for 3x damage 🙏

[mental flare]

hit (couldn't wait for t7-t7/t7-t6)

[mental flare]

mmm chaos inoculation

lol

[waxen nymph]

Oo

[mental flare]

nihilis bugged?

[waxen nymph]

@alpine canopy This exist

[waxen nymph]

No

Must be rounding

You have Titan Heart ?

[mental flare]

yeah, 14% of 1hp can't reach 1

[modern wadi]

like even on any timeline? I always wondered but never wanted to test on HC 💀

[mental flare]

lemme check

[modern wadi]

it would be very unfortunate to find that it actually operates using a float and it eventually rounds to 0 lol

[mental flare]

yeah, still alive, couldn't take the screenshot i was oneshotted by ranged spiders 😄

[modern wadi]

good to know, thanks!

[mental flare]

i did +20 evades and still remained on 0

[modern wadi]

hmm i guess actually if it already is rounding to 0 then... maybe you can only die to damage?

[mental flare]

funny this doesn't need to hit, just casted lol, free stimpack

[modern wadi]

yeah i spam vengeance between bosses when they're sequential even with nothing to hit for that reason

also means low life mana on hit is probably pretty much unworkable haha

[alpine canopy]

It is a float

The display value is a short

[modern wadi]

that actually brings back my concern for a long enough time period then 💀

[alpine canopy]

It would be a pretty long time before it hits 0, and they might have put in some protection against that

Like it's safe to always wear those "% current health lost per second" items with disabled health regen

[modern wadi]

thanks for the confirmation

[mental flare]

got abby down with the multistrike build first try

and

not bad

[inland quarry]

damn, i've been playing this since beta. and i JUST LEARNED that you can stack concentrated grounds for more dmg?

and here I was only doing 1 concentrated ground builds....

[waxen nymph]

Grounds yes
Aura no

[forest kelp]

I can't find 2lp in my stashes, but why do I have this thing? Too bad the roll is so awful

[turbid dome]

I mean

If your doing a void wizard vk you better have like 200 flat anyways from vitality

And then who cares about damage reflection

[polar spire]

i never understood why that has damage reflect

i just googled the name to see if its meaning had anything to do with reflect but nope

[turbid dome]

Given how stupidly rare and okay-ish it is ima guess reflect was important to vk or void spells at one point

[polar spire]

im thinking maybe back during stance times? when was omni a thing again? since day 1? i cant even remember

[turbid dome]

Tho I guess since it means all seeing that kinda in line with eyes as it has a bunch of eyes and eyes can be considered a reflection of a persons soul

100% sound logic

[forest kelp]

Spell damage, mana cost, spell void damage

[turbid dome]

It was added in 0.7 or before according to last epoch tools

[polar spire]

holy i thought i've only been playing since 2019, but now google tellin me it entered steam at the start of 2019

[turbid dome]

What spamable void spell is gonna cost more than 8 mana/where -8 mana doesn’t solve its cost problems

Yes 14 flat would be nice but if your doing a wizard vk your gonna have a shit ton of vitality which gives 2 flat void spell damage each, so loosing 14 isn’t the end of the world like it is on every other caster

Loosing roughly 50% increased damage also will not make or break a build

[polar spire]

god 7 years on le and it still doesnt have an endgame

jkjkjk

[turbid dome]

[turbid dome]

I’m taking this 100% totes mc goat seriously

[forest kelp]

I just took it to imprint and picked up something even worse 😂

[turbid dome]

[forest kelp]

This game attracts me not because of the storyline, so I don't really care much about it

[polar spire]

arpg players play arpg's for storylines?

its like borderlands players that complain about the story, dog we play it for loot, builds, and slaughter, same as arpg's, the story means nothing

[forest kelp]

I play it like an MMO, farming items, then slamming them, and chatting a bit with friends when I have free time

[mental flare]

my best unclaimed trove so far

[polar spire]

Im feelin

Like a dps/support gaspar's with the new ring might be fun

Lightning smites + HH, and fire abyssal echoes

[waxen nymph]

There might be smth to do with Gaspar + ring + Doom pulse staff

Or Lament of the lost refuge (Spell Void spear)

[gusty abyss]

Sadly, decimate on fire is on the sceptre

[waxen nymph]

Then might be a mage or Primalist angle

[mental flare]

is there a way to filter for items with 2 exalted affixes?

[gusty abyss]

With at least 2 and tier of individual affixes more or equal than 6

[alpine canopy]

imo fire and lightning are the best ones on primalist since you can auto them with tornado

[turbid dome]

If only the water sphere sphere was a melee

[mental flare]

being true melee raise your soul but reduce a lot the items and skills you can use 😢 . True melee giveth and taketh

[turbid dome]

[indigo plaza]

For the node in Multistrike, does it ignore the ICD of Forge Strike?

[silk wasp]

Yes

[forest kelp]

got another 😂

[turbid dome]

[forest kelp]

Damn it, I don’t have any 3xt7 for the spell build 🥹

[strange snow]

For void dot? Wonder if this is any good. Only seen the black blade of chaos in those builds

Don’t think I’ve seen that drop before heh

[turbid dome]

It’s probably ok?

Omnividence is just kinda mid overall for how rare it is

[wooden mountain]

it would be good for void multismite if staves could roll attack speed, I've seen that build do okay without a 2h t7 aspd roll but it would be much better with one

[turbid dome]

I mean it would just be better cause that means more smites

But also why use a staff over a multistrike smite sword

[wooden mountain]

because omnividence makes each (void) smite hit harder than a multistrike smite sword and entirely fixes the mana issues that some multi smite builds run into

[turbid dome]

Fair enough

Tho if you want, I’d personally do direct cast smite with it over multistrike smite

Because smites double cast node stacks with echos

Plus then cast speed 👍

[wooden mountain]

multistrike has its own echoes nodes that's pretty sweet and you almost always get more smites/s with multistrike than self cast smite don't you?

obviously smite has benefits of range and autotargeting at the edge of the screen making monoliths incredibly safe

[turbid dome]

Yeah multistrike should be more smites per second

But going direct caster only means less stat split

• frees up a skill spec

So it’s a build crafting question and a how do you want to play question

Imo try both and see what you like

[wooden mountain]

yeah you could get abyssal echoes for the blind + more damage to blinded enemies i guess

[turbid dome]

Also auto cast orbiting turret dorbs

Just more spells as you run around

[wooden mountain]

the multistrike build i saw was using auto dorbs too

[turbid dome]

The 20% more damage with 90+ vit is great

Everything else the dorbs do is also great

And it doesn’t change your skill rotation

Dorb 💖

[strange snow]

The void cleave jav rot one shot build I think stacks cast speed for more anomaly casts I think

[wooden mountain]

dorbs don't have many more multis to go with all your amazing +flat that spell hit VK has tho, serious limits on how much scaling you get

[wooden mountain]

yeah totally different build and that one stacks cast + attack + throw speed because they're big damage multipliers with rot grip

[turbid dome]

Yeah

Auto cast turret dorb is more a supportive skill

If you want to point and remove a troublesome rare on wizard vk, damage spec anomaly is fun

[modern wadi]

heya, this was really helpful and seems clear enough: 2x T7 is better than 4x T6, but though I'd double check (I have that choice, both 50+ FP)

[wooden mountain]

don't get me wrong, +2 flat per vit is so so much better than 4% increased per attunement as an attribute scalar, but the skills it works with don't have big damage multi nodes to go along with it in most cases

[modern wadi]

this is not for a slam (judgement helmet) so T7 slightly less key than would be the case if it was for a legendary

[turbid dome]

Mmm time wave tho

[wooden mountain]

time wave? I haven't tried that. the time bubble side of things just feels so important to have for a lot of VK builds that don't need the time rot speed reset stuff

[turbid dome]

I also guess if I want stretch what a more damage multiplier is, having a second dorb out is basically 100% more dorb damage

[wooden mountain]

yes that is true, if you stack cdr and run you can have a lot out with lucky echoes

[turbid dome]

More so on the shooty bit not the smack them bit

this is what I did for damage anomaly

[wooden mountain]

volatile reversals first hit is soooo slow

[turbid dome]

Yeah but it’s still so much fun to use it

key thing is that we time wave on anomaly hit and when them come back so we hit with both time waves with the they don't jump forward node

the bubble is meant to just sit on a boss or big rare to shred tf outa them, bonus points go into the cdr inside the bubble node because nothing else really felt useful

also mark of rot does its thing too

additionally timewave's base stats

and what more damage we get on anomaly's tree

sadly even when trying to spec for pure cooldown reduction, it was not enough to make it feel remotely good as a main skill, still super nice for obliterating a tougher rare

[mental flare]

B@stard do not want to drop 2lp (these and other 15-20 drops)

[strange snow]

That’s a lot of heart twisting

[mental flare]

T_T

do someone have a trick to farm red ring? it would be great to have at least 1

ñ posting

[reef dawn]

COF prophecies, people say about 200k favor spent on them or so

[forest kelp]

Armor too low, really worried

failed craft

[polar spire]

yeeup, and because it ignores it, you can weave in on cooldown forge strikes whenever, if you just need a little extra oomph

[polar spire]

how in the world do you screw it up that bad

what was the starting potential

[forest kelp]

It was crafted for a different build that needed experimental, but I got unlucky using Havoc, and now it probably suits this Void Smite build

[chilly wasp]

do you think VK Time Rot will be nerfed tl the ground? it's the only notable build i had no time to play 🥲

[waxen nymph]

Nerf to the ground? No
Bring back to earth? Hopefully

[analog steppe]

I doubt it will happen but I think EHG needs to rethink the way more-multipliers on skills get inherited by the ailments. At the moment it feels like many ailment builds are either broken good or broken bad based on completely nonsensical multiplier inheritance from outlier skills

normal intended time rot builds and javelin time rot are completely different levels of power for instance

[turbid dome]

I could see them changing the largest outliers to still work with hits but not dots

[alpine canopy]

Yup, change battle standard's multi to "direct damage" or "hit damage" and it's done

[waxen nymph]

I dont even know why it has a More Dmg

[alpine canopy]

Fair, they could totally delete it too, lol

[forest kelp]

got it

[autumn prairie]

is anchor of oblivion better than this? even as 0lp? or does it have to be a good 2lp?

[mental flare]

1lp anchor can slam +4 to symbols, 2lp prob much better

[autumn prairie]

where do I get +4 to symbols

[wooden mountain]

items with the affix drop randomly, shatter (or rune of removal) them to get affix shards and use crafting + runes of havoc to get T7 versions.

You can get more +skill items dropping from rune prison mages on the weaver tree

[autumn prairie]

so I should get an item with a good t7 and an open affix and craft that? but it would be a 2lp with a t7 and a t5 right? unless I find a double t7 relic

I have one with t7 symbol actually! lul
its the only t7 tho

[wooden mountain]

I mean that's really a judgement for you to make but id say get single T7 slams before worrying about the perfect 2lp

[autumn prairie]

if I get a 2lp should I keep it for the future or try to slam the t7 and a decent t5

[wooden mountain]

that depends on how rare the 2lp is and how good your imprint is for getting exalted worth slamming into that 2lp.

if 2lp is giga rare, don't settle for a mid exalted to slam into it and hope it hits, if 2lp isn't too hard to get then T7+T5 is fine, then you're really just deciding how much farming you want to do.

I generally think Maxroll's endgame planner guideline of no lp rarer than 1/100 and only a single exalted affix per item is a good benchmark for not aiming too high or too low

[autumn prairie]

funny you mention the maxroll guide because on there it says to slam Mana on the relic, and on the 2lp shattered worlds(lol) they put mana and all res while channeling

so should I put mana or symbols of hope on the anchor?

[mental flare]

4 prophecies in

can't complain at all

[little lodge]

Congrats! When you imprint this, things will go much faster moving forward

[mental flare]

totally forgot about that, thank you

praise the turtle, the turtle giveth and the turtle taketh

T_T

nothing

[silk wasp]

Sounds like the turtle only taketh

[forest kelp]

The turtle only brings unexpected gifts when fed enough, it has to be several hundred times that amount, otherwise, just think about going to cleanse LP for a chance at Nemesis

[mental flare]

indeed

[shy sorrel]

running a smite warpath voidknight

its pretty comfy and can actually tank/engage with the content still. I feel like i might be able to share tips or the build

i dont see too many smite-warpath VK buildguides out there... maybe its a done to death kinda build?

[keen radish]

Honestly not really from what I've seen. At least none that are up to date. If you're interested in making your own imo Le tools is a good place to make one in. You can also always do a video

https://www.lastepochtools.com/build-guides/filter/language=en

[shy sorrel]

huh.. Yeah! That might be good place to go about things

[gleaming pine]

impressive none the less if it's legit, haven't seen anyone push that high with any sentinel build except biman (erasing strike). interested what the shade kills look like

[shy sorrel]

ill beeline to the shade and make a video, i guess?

[gleaming pine]

yeah for sure, no one has put out anything like that for warpath

[shy sorrel]

honestly, I am mostly about the build mechanics - i thinks thats neat. As long as the build can push past 1k corruption and do uber abbaroth its a winner i think

[keen radish]

Warpath is very Uber viable so I'm not super surprised or anything but yeah I don't think I've seen a proper guide outside of maxroll maybe

Here's theirs
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/echo-warpath-void-knight-guide

No smite tho

So it's a bit different for sure

[shy sorrel]

oh, interesting! I feel like what you really need to push super high into corruption is defenses more then anything. Either you dodge abuse like the falconers or you have to go quite hard into it.

[keen radish]

Yep agreed

[shy sorrel]

yeah, gimme a sec, ill try to record a video

[gleaming pine]

warpath kinda went a bit under the radar, it was on maxrolls stier in almost everything but everyone seemed to play erasing strike instead

[keen radish]

Warpath has always been S tier in terms of clear honestly

[shy sorrel]

errr, just an echo i guess any maybe a normal abbaroth? i think that might be best for dps stuff

[warped night]

problem was that the guide recommended the needle

[shy sorrel]

so people can compare it to. uber abbaroth is... xD honestly, its just a shitshow in terms of what is going on haha

[gleaming pine]

yeah the bloody needle

[keen radish]

Yep that would be good. Maybe a shade at your top corruption too would be nice to see

[shy sorrel]

sure! ill beeline to one

whats the issue with the needle? seems more like a falconer weapon to me

[warped night]

it's almost impossible to get a really good one, so even if a "middling" one is good, it still feels bad to keep farming over and over

and on the surface yeah, looks like it's for falconers, but the base stats on the item are amazing

[shy sorrel]

would have thought that the weaver items might be more available with merchants

at least good ones

but yeah, farming them with CoF seems like such a pain

[warped night]

yep

locks out half (honestly, I have no idea what the actual split is) of the playerbase

now, a decently rolled needle with a t6+ & t5 of what you want is probably excellent, it still feels bad

and there's apathy's maw with 2lp that's somewhat easy to get, but the guide put the needle as the main weapon, so I'm sure it dissuaded some just on the surface

[shy sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsqyUI7E-pM

here you guys go

its a bit haggard, i just quickly recorded a normal abbaroth

now i am going to bed. good night! Ill make a proper writedown later on

[mental flare]

?????????????

[shy sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955179472309583904/1395029712618655895/image0.gif

[mental flare]

share tools man

and take a break maybe (?

[shy sorrel]

you should get most out of it from the video; the exact rolls for the legendaries i make a writedown of tomorrow

[mental flare]

the video is 5sec long

i believe you recorded the app not the screen maybe?

[shy sorrel]

ah, sorry

its still processing on youtube :c

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7MX4RKA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 8,228, Regen: 33.6/s
▸ Mana: 224.2, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 34 Str / 13 Dex / 13 Int / 18 Att / 88 Vit
▸ Resistances: 186% / 124% / 124% / 108% / 99% / 143% / 143%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 2,013
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 77% (10,062)
▸ Block Chance: 94%, Mitigation: 65% (3,800)

Used skills:

Warpath / Smite / Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope

[shy sorrel]

thats pretty much the "ideal" gear

obviously kick out crit/health w/e you can afford not to have

[mental flare]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

everything lp4

what a beast

bonus points for chad vaion chariot

[shy sorrel]

the endurance rolls are just there because why not tbh; you can absolutely throw them out

you barely ever dip into the endurance range anyhow and its not built around that at all

[keen radish]

The planner isn't their real gear. It's just the "ultimate" aspirational gear. In case there was confusion lol

We all wish we could have gear like that lul

[mental flare]

the 9.5k tho, must not be that far

[keen radish]

It must be far off, trust me lol

[gleaming pine]

that's kinda obvious, but like this just means its an offline build, so anything goes. if you're making an offline build to test stuff out, you'd want to be using realistic gear, or you may as well turn god mode on and all the damage sliders up to max and play the game like that

[keen radish]

Either it's far off, they're cheating or somehow paused time and played for 500 thousand hours

[mental flare]

never saw more than 2 T7 on the same item tbh

[keen radish]

Someone else the other day dropped a 4 T7 but the most I've seen is a 3 T7

But that's not even the rare part

[gleaming pine]

kuden has legit 3 x t7 stuff, but if we're talking reaslitc gear for a planner, you wouldnt put more than 2 x t7 for the lpl80+ items, that's already super aspirational

[keen radish]

Some of those uniques just don't exist at 4lp

[mental flare]

what is the one that says "almost impossible" on the lp4 part on the wiki?

[keen radish]

Even at 3lp some are absolutely insane

We have actual numbers

Even a 2lp shattered worlds is bonkers good if you hit the slam

[keen radish]

Yep

[mental flare]

fu**ing ravenous void

[keen radish]

It gets exponentially worse the higher you go ^^

Wings of Argentus used to be 115

[gleaming pine]

i actually got 2 1xlp rav void this season, was super happy. after never seeing them drop in over 1k hours

[keen radish]

Here are the numbers on wings old lpl value without CoF or corruption

[gleaming pine]

i got 2lp wings also, never got to use it. although thats not that rare now that the lpl was reduced

[keen radish]

That's 17 zeroes before 28%

[keen radish]

Yeah the lpl on it got reduced a lot

2lp is feasible now

[gleaming pine]

man i was keen to play a 9.5k viable warpath build, rip the dream

[keen radish]

Wdym it is

You don't need anywhere near that gear

[gleaming pine]

thats why i wanted to see a shade kill with legit (or achievable) gear to see what the fight looks like

it probably is doable, biman did 10k shade on erasing strike, so why not. still wanna see it though

[shy sorrel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXZm3P3Q

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 5,250, Regen: 33.6/s
▸ Mana: 224.2, Regen: 9.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 26%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 34 Str / 13 Dex / 13 Int / 18 Att / 88 Vit
▸ Resistances: 186% / 124% / 124% / 108% / 99% / 143% / 143%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 24%, Threshold: 1,417
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (52)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 77% (9,780)
▸ Block Chance: 92%, Mitigation: 49% (1,922)

Used skills:

Warpath / Smite / Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope

[shy sorrel]

here it is with "achieveable" gear

[mental flare]

it's what you have now?

[keen radish]

What's your in game name cyrix? Like when you press H at the top of the window

The second planner is doable tbh

It's very doable

Well the exalts would take some time but if you can settle for T7T6 it shouldn't take too long

(obviously double T7 is also doable)

[shy sorrel]

i only did double t7 or t7 and t6 with t5 if its a high LP unique

its really more about the build and how it comes together then about the gear

[keen radish]

Yep

[shy sorrel]

no, due to work i play offline. So the character is "fake" in your definition. I can make one with the gear shown in the second planner though and showcase that, if that would put your mind at ease? I am fairly sure it would run 5k+ corruption regardless.

[keen radish]

Btw for future reference if you wanna actually post a guide try doing it on an online character. While I and others know that gear of the second planner is doable and stuff. A lot of people don't and will try saying that you cheated the items in if it's offline.

Yeah was about to say ^^

[mental flare]

my mind is at ease bro, just weird putting a pic with high c but not the actual build that achieved that

[shy sorrel]

yeah, gotcha. I was trying to push forward that its not about the gear, but i guess people really are in it for the competition. I am not x)

[shy sorrel]

if you want to i can make the same build with way less crazy gear and try to record it again?

[keen radish]

Honestly even if most those uniques were at 1lp with 3lp siphon and sword you'd do just fine at very high corruption

Warpath is just solid

[mental flare]

i was just curious about the items, i can't do 1000c so idk why u believe someone want to compete or smth lol

[shy sorrel]

most of the dmg is coming from smites too - and we have points left over (take it from the node that increases dmg vs blind targets) and put it into the flat crit node - that immediatly pushes smite past 100% even with next to no gear

[shy sorrel]

i wonder about that honestly. I tried to make an archmage work for high corruption and it just always falls flat :/ neither the damage nor the surviveability are there. I had the same problem with a warlock. great dps but no matter the gear (all t7 etc) I could not make it work.

[keen radish]

Eh both mage and acolyte can get up there with that kinda gear honestly. For mage your best bet might be a fundamental criterion mana guide build or frost claw. I'm less sure about acolyte since I don't play it as much, but both warlock and necromancer have pushed into well into the thousands before

[shy sorrel]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BENg7nwo

[crude matrix]

Sorcerer, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (76) / Runemaster (17)

General:

▸ Health: 4,632, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 1,515.76, Regen: 34.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 102%, Regen: 341/s
▸ Attributes: 24 Str / 24 Dex / 45 Int / 24 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 108% / 108% / 108% / 99% / 99% / 123% / 123%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 926
▸ Dodge Chance: 16% (533)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,058)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 136%

Used skills:

Elemental Nova / Meteor / Arcane Ascendance / Teleport / Focus

[shy sorrel]

thats what i tried - more or less - for archmage

[keen radish]

Yeah nah meteor will never work out currently

[shy sorrel]

its tri- element nova actually

into doom bolt - from the staff

the meteors are just there due to the belt

[keen radish]

Yeah you'll just die

[shy sorrel]

yeah, any projectile i cant dodge and i go poof

[keen radish]

Yep

[shy sorrel]

how do mages solve that issue?

[keen radish]

You go mana guide or twisted heart basically

[shy sorrel]

that gives me ward - but not mitigation, right? or am i missing something?

[keen radish]

Twisted heart is just ward yeah, but a lot of it and you'd wanna go flame ward too which is giga mitigation but not 100% uptime. If you're looking for something as consistent as warpath sentinel it doesn't exist on mage. Warpath is and has been one of the smoothest clearing builds since forever

1k corruption is very achievable though with 5k being possible still on mage

You just can't turn your brain off as much

[shy sorrel]

my one true weakness! 😂

[rigid dragon]

hey whats the new patch looking like for sentinel/voidknight in season 3

do we have more versatility in builds as VK or still same ones, Erasing strike for endgame, void orbs leveling

[forest kelp]

If I finish the armor today, I'll start leveling my void smite character

[waxen nymph]

I love to read that, when I played 2'
differents VK and they were not ES or DOrb

There is a lot of variety for VK

S3 will change very little for vk imo

They are looking at Necro Lich and Companion from BM

[forest kelp]

I'd rather play BM than Lich after trying it; it's absolutely terrible

[waxen nymph]

Will have to see after the rework

[polar spire]

companion for BM means FG and Pal for us

nothing for vk sadly

or happily

[forest kelp]

FG and Marksman are companions together

[waxen nymph]

Anyone done smth with Crit DOrb?

Or Spell DoT not Time Rot

[forest kelp]

Saw it on Twitch yesterday

[waxen nymph]

Oo

From who?

Managed to get a planner?

Or a profile I could look at?

[forest kelp]

Cursedboy maybe

[waxen nymph]

@spring yew sorry for the ping

Have you been playing around Spell DOrb lately? Crit or Dot

[spring yew]

Hey Vlad no worries mate. Yes Dev Orb Crit . Planning to have the build guide out by tomorrow.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Cursedboy/character/DevOrbShenanigans

That's my Character if u wanna take a peak Vlad.

[shy sorrel]

let me know if you have any questions! ill make a video later this weekend with "game-achievable" gear to showcase the way i made it.

[shy sorrel]

Lich basically is all about stygian beams - the coal carries the whole class atm. And its imo not even super duper impressive overall.

[forest kelp]

Oh, I was talking about the multistrike smite build I planned to play the past few days

[shy sorrel]

oh no. an aurelis build?

[waxen nymph]

Oo
Noice
Will definitely look and watch the guide

[forest kelp]

got it

[waxen nymph]

Holy mama !!

[silk wasp]

👀

[dense tendon]

did they tease any items that would take warpath to the next level

[mental flare]

yeah apathy maw long time ago (?

[warped night]

nothing specific that would be great on warpath, but I think primordial exalted items have potential for warpath depending on how one gets them

seems like you can get 6 affixes on one item, and the primordial affix is like T8-9 tiered

so now you could potentially get a hollow blade with primordial attack speed and T6+ melee crit & melee void

but again, depends on how these are actually acquired, which we don't know yet

[forest kelp]

Make exalted great again?

[warped night]

they also showed that the primordial affix could be a champion affix, so that could be really cool when paired with the void cleave champion affix. Especially if it gives a second extra charge

[warped night]

I hope so. one thing that I really liked about this game when I first started playing was that exalted items had the potential to surpass uniques and legendaries, but that's kind of gone out the window with the increasing power of uniques, the guaranteed 1lp slam, and the ease at which you can farm uniques now

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, power wise, it would actually be balanced if we could "slam" the primal exalted affix, especially if we are limited to 1, like primal unique.

[strange snow]

On ES build, should I do less echo dmg and armor shred. or more echo dmg and keep armor shred on gloves for now?

I can remove armor shred on gloves and put attack speed instead

[turbid dome]

how many shred stacks can you sustain

[strange snow]

Just 10 with that idol. Keep armor shred gloves and that armor shred idol too?

[turbid dome]

yeah you want to hit like 40 or more shred stacks

1 sec

[strange snow]

I still need more armor shred. With gloves I only get 30ish

[turbid dome]

tunklab (its in the pinned things on this channel) as a tool for your armor shred, 40-50 is stacks is what I aim for

30 stacks %more damage boost

[strange snow]

Cool, I will check this site out

Thank you

[turbid dome]

[strange snow]

still trying to find descent idols heh

[turbid dome]

thats a big struggle in general

imo grab all the more cemetery and tomb nodes (first cluster up from the center of the weaver tree)

those spots drop idols like candy

then its sadly just grind