🔱┃sentinel

[tardy mirage]

the 2 gamble items too?

[waxen nymph]

Oh no sorry

[thorny spoke]

Just boss drops I thought.

[waxen nymph]

Its late
Wasnt paying attention

[thorny spoke]

But you can portal to that boss anyway

[waxen nymph]

Mb

[thorny spoke]

It's the other drops unique to the dungeon

[waxen nymph]

Its just boss drop

[thorny spoke]

Ye

[tardy mirage]

LOWKEY ive gotten more foot of the mountain from mapping than ive seen in the dungeon at all

like i dont think its ever dropped in the dungeon

but i have like 5 that i havnt not picked up lel

i think one is like 3lp lel

wish i could get that luck with sanctum loot ... best i ever drop is the helmet

[thorny spoke]

Yeah that node is great. I've gotten good items from it.

[tardy mirage]

out in echos i mean

[thorny spoke]

I built a druid to try out cof

Uses foot and peak

[tardy mirage]

btw can you get soulgambler uniques from the woven echo soul gambler?

[thorny spoke]

But also, using Arbor gets you a ton of uniques

[tardy mirage]

lol

[thorny spoke]

I think half of what my druid is wearing is from there. And the exalted bases too

[tardy mirage]

oh ye i guess arbor does let you spam for runes

but like

you can also use prophesies

and that also has nothing to do with actually running the dungeon

you can just skip and fight the boss

[thorny spoke]

Yeah I'm just talking bout the boss at the end yah.

The dungeon is useless. I guess to complete the prophecy lol

If you picked that one up.

[tardy mirage]

the only one with actual value to running from start to finish is soulfire bastian cuz you build up currency for the gambler

[thorny spoke]

Yeah. Obsolete anyway and dunno if it was ever really that good.

You cannot brain off thru that dungeon either. Some of those mobs can kill thru endgame defenses if you're in the wrong barrier on.

Lol I learned that lesson

[tardy mirage]

i mean the ammy was good before they gutted it so you couldnt use it with dissentegrate

now its kinda worthless

avarice is still kinda good ... but ravenous void exists now oof

[grim fog]

Aight I have 87% Armor applied to Dot while having 10500 Armor (82% armor)

[thorny spoke]

Running temporal in past seasons.

Built up the suspense leading up to your LP slam.

[grim fog]

I need to try uber

just to see

[tardy mirage]

ye i would have much rathered they just make the cache infinite use over making the dungeon itself not matter

basically like the woven echo crafting

[thorny spoke]

Really? I usually LP slam like 1-2 things at a time rarely more. Haha

[tardy mirage]

i mean or they could make it so that something in there means more crafts owo
or maybe unlocks more guarunteed mods owo

[grim fog]

Me casually tanking vs 5 Shades of Orobys at 1072 Corruption

[thorny spoke]

The sacrificial altar tho. Wish that could be portaled to.

[tribal basin]

Soon my stupid plan is finished , getting 1100% Stun chance onto my Flying Shredder

Shield Bonk Moment , got capped Armor , Block chance and block effectiveness ?

[tardy mirage]

i mean

i guess they could buff the doors between stages

that would make it valueable to run but you could still just spam the boss with portal and not get the door bonuses

[grim fog]

Im overcapping by accident

it make take a bit to clear but

I dont fear

[tardy mirage]

also make weaver tree effect dungeons

scale charm kinda bad if the lizards arent dropping uniques cuz they dont get effected by the tree owo

[thorny spoke]

I do wish they gave us better reasons to do the dungeons instead of just a means to skip them

[last bison]

does smite cast by warpath trigger bleeding heart's bleed on spell cast effect?

[grim fog]

Brother I gotta hope to god this rolls LP on Nemesis

I CAN TANK UBER EVEN THO MY DAMAGE IS MEH

now I need to actually move around and not take 20 frailty stacks

I have no damage tho

but damn Im tanky

is so funny

[dim ermine]

Yeah its fun until u spend 8 min+ dps until the green slash phase where the debudf stack at u 🥲

[grim fog]

Yea

Anyway I had funy with the build

🍭

[fringe barn]

I made a build for ES, and jesus, I see why people are saying it's cracked.

My Javelin build could run through 900 corruption slowly, but it got the job done. This build destroys that corruption.

[arctic loom]

have you tried getting cleanse on belt?

[grim fog]

dont matter im using Event Horizon

-15% Speed

[arctic loom]

no i mean, i think the cleanse removes the frailty stacks?

so you can still up your damage while you have potions

[grim fog]

yea still

Im like under 5 puddles

[hallow herald]

what is making u so tanky/ healing

[simple reef]

guys press X when you complete prophecies

there's a bug that just hides items that aren't supposed to be hidden, toggling your loot filter fixes it

[arctic loom]

got my spare t7-mana and t7-shred nihilis to reroll with these values. Damn. implicits are almost godly but the slammed affixes suffered a bit. guess gonna farm some more 😄

[simple reef]

is this why i can't freaking get imprints, over half of the loot is literally just not showing

neat

[arctic loom]

meanwhile the other is still suffering XD. good thing i get to juggle 2 of these nihilis. keeping the boredom off.

[tribal basin]

yeah , sometimes the Labels are overlapping and not showing , its the supposed fix to the other Item label bug we had a while back ...

[grim fog]

Forge guard + 2 red rings

also Rebuke gives me 80% damage reduction but mostly also gives me a good amount of health and mana regen

[grim fog]

Thats really nice

NVM just saw

1 to all skills

xD

[simple reef]

by that do you mean, there are item labels hidden behind another item label?

because for me it sometimes happens with ZERO item label on the ground (so it couldn't be hidden behind anything)

i'll press X and 3-4 items would show up

[winter copper]

how do u have no dmg on shield bash?

its 17 mil dps on just 1t7 gear

🤔

[grim fog]

I have 1.9 M DPS yes

I also have 105% phys pen

I also have no SHRED

[winter copper]

oh boy

hahaha'

[winter copper]

i hope u didnt mean dummy 1.9 mil

[grim fog]

yea

at least fully stack event horizon says 1.9 Million

on the tooltip

[winter copper]

oh dont look at tooltip its a lie q.q

[grim fog]

but yea my 2LP got robed cause it rolled T5 to All stats

[winter copper]

but maxroll endgame planner is 17 mil dps

and u can go way beyond there

with like 2lp weapon and double t7 slam

[grim fog]

GL getting 2LP Event horizon

shit is hard to drop and costs +400 Mill

[winter copper]

oh you are mg

[grim fog]

Gotta sell my 2LP stealth to get at leas 1 Bill

Yea

[winter copper]

my condolences

🙏

[grim fog]

I mean

only problem I have is when I need meta stuff

or harbinger stuff

rest of it is cheap

[winter copper]

yaaa

ig its kinda fine

[grim fog]

4LP only 100 Mill

[winter copper]

this build is almost free on cof

[grim fog]

I just buy a lotta 1LP's and turtle when I get enough favor

THANKS NEMESIS

STill 1 more empower

[hallow herald]

so on my judgement paladin playtime, i have gathered many event horizons and the shield, I also have another sentinel ( voidknight), should i try the shield bash build as i essentially have all the items,

[grim fog]

only 1 LP still

Thats an amazing Nihil

[winter copper]

its a niche build if the gameplay suits your taste its strong

[grim fog]

I do lotta damage I have lotta health I have max res and stuff

Then again is 1.3 corruption

[unborn cypress]

Which build should I look for on Last Epoch Tools for the highest corruption?

[grim fog]

Any subclass on particular?

[unborn cypress]

Nope

[grim fog]

Shield Bash Forgeguard is simple you are tanky as hell and cannot die

and u do decent damage

I kid u not u could do 2k corruption and get 2 shoted

at least my 1.4 K corruption is running nice

But u are slow

[unborn cypress]

Alright thanks I'll check it out

[grim fog]

There is like 2 or 3 variations of it

some people play it with Paladin

I feel that would work better for co-op

but I pref Forge cause u can use the 2-handed weapon+Shield

[grim fog]

Gamble time

Turtle betrayed me

🎲

[turbid dome]

[oblique hinge]

holy crap did you kill it?!

[grim fog]

No

[oblique hinge]

that damage reminds of my multistrike smite

[grim fog]

Need to work on being less tanky

[oblique hinge]

7 minute kill

but he couldnt kill me!

i just switched to serpent druid where i can face tank him and kill him in a minute 🤣

[grim fog]

I dont think I ever heard of serpent druiod

[oblique hinge]

its pretty common now

serpent strike druid

[oblique hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqH8JyZJeKY&lc=UgwpMVwYlGcVeYbEgud4AaABAg.AIdid7ObefIAIdkSuVlJ34

[grim fog]

Ah thanks

Damnb

whast the build planner for that

[oblique hinge]

uh i got it in the comments i think

[grim fog]

Didnt see anything at least

[oblique hinge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJVgMdqQ

[crude matrix]

Druid, Level 99

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Primalist (20) / Beastmaster (8) / Shaman (25) / Druid (59)

General:

▸ Health: 5,711, Regen: 74.02/s
▸ Mana: 241.2, Regen: 0/s
▸ Ward Retention: 70%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 88 Str / 35 Dex / 35 Int / 43 Att / 113 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 77% / 102% / 77% / 90% / 150% / 218%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 1,685
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (199)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 67% (5,741)

Used skills:

Summon Thorn Totem / Summon Spriggan / Serpent Strike / Tornado / Swarmblade Form

[grim fog]

oh yea just saw it

Oh well I have p much all of it except the amulet and a good roll on the sword

[oblique hinge]

amulet is cheap in MG

[grim fog]

oh yea ik

[oblique hinge]

im not sure about sword anymore it WAS cheap back when i bought it

[grim fog]

I can get a 4LP for less than 50 Mill I belive

I have a bunch

[oblique hinge]

nah 3 LP was 900mil last time i looked

[grim fog]

Anything +16 I save

[oblique hinge]

i bought most of the gear before everyone caught wind of the build

so my gears pretty nutty and u cant buy some of it anymore

[grim fog]

oh yea Serpent milk 1 bill at lp3

yeap...

[oblique hinge]

you dont need a 3 LP tho

[grim fog]

I have this 1 saved tho

[oblique hinge]

u want melee crit chance on that

atk spd and poison on hit are bonus's

[grim fog]

damn I sold a 2LP Hakar recently e.e

[oblique hinge]

😦

[arctic loom]

oh wow fresh drop

[frigid zenith]

better rolled one failed, but at least the backup worked out

[twilit valley]

It’s a grind ! I turtle 2 x red rings ! Ofc fail

Then I need one with a socket and farmed 8 in 24 hours and not one lp1 .. and nem trolling ..

But I’ll keep trying I really need a 1lp now

[frigid zenith]

turtling red rings 👀

[tribal basin]

Wish i would find some double exalted to slam on mine , i have 5 +6 sworcatchers on standby for that

but for RNGregory reasons , neither my Havocs would jump to double Prefix nor wont my Redemption give me T7 Flat T6 increased

[frigid zenith]

oh yeah, this took a long time to get too

it's insane how easy it is to brick double exalts sometimes

[simple reef]

gg uber down in 2 seconds

waiting for the nerfs now

[tribal basin]

what in the name of the snapshot did you do ?

[arctic loom]

Can you guys share your imprinting farm weaver tree please? 🙂

[simple reef]

tossed a javelin

[tribal basin]

I hope my game wont crash , 44x Death of Boss Double Reward Two handex Exalted Axes

528 axes , i have a 50% chance to get soemthing i could slam

[steady yew]

What kind of gear do you have to cut the time by 3?

[simple reef]

about the same gear really just slightly better

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGl2NGno

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (58) / Forge Guard (25)

General:

▸ Health: 1,766, Regen: 26.8/s
▸ Mana: 260.51, Regen: 11.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 68%, Regen: 39/s
▸ Attributes: 47 Str / 141 Dex / 34 Int / 22 Att / 34 Vit
▸ Resistances: 32% / 0% / 0% / 26% / 32% / 118% / 48%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 39%, Threshold: 353
▸ Dodge Chance: 25% (846)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,489)

Used skills:

Javelin / Void Cleave / Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb / Anomaly

[steady yew]

Damn the fact that you managed to get multiple t7 slam on pretty much everything is mind blowing to me 😅

Still trying to get multiple exalt and they never drop or with bad affixes

[simple reef]

you just need to drop one and then you can imprint it to farm more

it doesn't matter that it drops with bad affixes because you just craft them when you drop more from imprints

[tribal basin]

double exalted are more common the higher your corruption is since they are affected by Item Rarity

means its defo easier on C 1k+ than on C 100

[steady yew]

I farm on 1k but I never drop from imprint I have a triple exalted imprinted and I got none in like 30 echoes

[tribal basin]

i have a trip exalted shield in the imprint , also nothing

[steady yew]

That why ‘I’m amazed he managed to 1 farm the multi exalt with the perfect stats and 2 succeeded those slam

[simple reef]

it just takes knowing what to do and then taking the time to do it

[steady yew]

Well for sure but in my situation considering havoc and redemption rune use with how scarce they are is difficult

And when I see your slams I’m just « how »

[simple reef]

if your imprint is set up properly you don't need redemptions

and you can farm havocs via uber or via MG's lightless arbor

[steady yew]

I can’t say I’m confident in farming uber at all and I’m not mg

[steady yew]

? You imprint until you get a good rolled affixes and imprint it and wait for same drop?

[simple reef]

no you imprint 2 T7 suffixes with a t1 prefix and an open prefix slot so you're guaranteed to always be able to craft the 2 prefixes that you want

and you don't need to be MG you just roll 1 MG character level it to 95-ish, sell some random item and you have enough gold to buy 2000 havocs or something like that

[steady yew]

Oh

Damn that’s actually giga brain move

[simple reef]

or you find a way to put uber on farm 🤷‍♀️ cant say i ever did lightless arbor for havocs

[steady yew]

Trying to get my hands on propers idols and relics for time rot

For my playstyle more dps = easier time

[simple reef]

gl time rot is not budget friendly

[steady yew]

I can somehow kill uber on ES but last phase is a gample each time cause of the sheer number of hit happening

[steady yew]

I have pretty much everything beside idols and relics

I think I could use Julra for uber

[simple reef]

well i think it's probably not that bad on a budget to be fair

[steady yew]

And be fine ish

[simple reef]

i can't really speak from experience given that i already had double t7 everywhere when i started playing the build

[oblique hinge]

sounds like me with my serpent druid

[steady yew]

I saw the max roll uber with 1lp gear and he killed it in 2min with almost no last phase

[simple reef]

a lot of ppl msg me saying they do zdps with timerot despite having "all the gear"

which gives the impression that it's not budget friendly

but it looks more like they have no understanding of the build or how it plays

[steady yew]

Or people just don’t know the gear

[steady yew]

Yeah

[simple reef]

i simmed a person who had "all the gear" and they had 1/10th of my damage

and most of the damage discrepancy just came from no idols

which like doubles your damage basically

and bad slam prio

[steady yew]

Yeah I got my hands on 2 huge one with ok ish roll need the 2 last and void pen small weaver now

[simple reef]

and neglecting important roll ranges

[steady yew]

Tbf the build is weird in his stat use

[simple reef]

ye

i mean ppl need to learn how to read

[steady yew]

If you don’t look at how it works it make no sense even after reading the Chinese guide I’ m still confused on why do we roll slow chance

[simple reef]

i mean it's fine if you don't want to use any brainpower and just press 1 button but just go play erasing strike i guess

(i dont mean it in a derogatory way)

[steady yew]

But I haven’t really looked into that much

[simple reef]

rot grip passive in the vk tree

[steady yew]

Play judgment no need for brain

[simple reef]

it's the most commonly asked question

[steady yew]

I facetanked my first uber kill with mostly 1lp gear and bad idols

[simple reef]

i mean if you haven't built the character yet and you're just looking at the planner and trying to piece information together then it's fine to wonder why you would want slow chance

but i do find it weird when ppl already have the character set up and they don't know why they're slamming things

cause you have to manually allocate all your passive points and your skill points and stuff, like the very least is to read what the nodes that you're allocating do

[steady yew]

Cause most of the people don’t want to bother learning the tech behind the build

[simple reef]

and as you're setting up your character and you put your points you would learn that

i mean i guess i kinda understand but it's pretty weird to me lol

like not even reading?

[steady yew]

Well yeah I kind I get why

I mostly do that at the beginning and the further I work on the class /build I learn bit by bit

[simple reef]

like this is what leads to all the ppl rolling ES coming here saying they have zhp and they have like 10 points invested into leech passives instead of max hp cause that's what the maxroll planner uses

i mean tbf that one is mostly on maxroll cause it does take some experience to know that stacking leech is worthless

[steady yew]

Well I was rolling it cause it made sense to get the leech

[simple reef]

a brand new player wouldn't necessarily know that

[steady yew]

Well there’s a lot to know for it to make sense

[simple reef]

but ye idk not reading is also weird cause

the ppl who don't read are gonna ask other people why they do x

and they're gonna have to read it from that person anyway

they probably either don't know that this exists or they don't care

search function is kinda op, anytime there is a weird stat being used in a build you just ctrl-F the passive tree and the skill trees and it usually answers your question within 10 seconds

[silk wasp]

No want effort. Just give reward. Reward now plz

[pseudo parcel]

I hate that kind of player

The instant gratification crowd. They're always the loudest and most demanding, slowly ruining the games they play

[tribal basin]

Aaaaand No double exalted from teh prophecies

[zinc tangle]

GAMBA TIME?

[simple reef]

it's not even about instant gratification it's just laziness

it takes 2 minutes to read tooltips and the game rewards you immensely for actually reading the tooltips

like your character actually gets immensely stronger from you reading the tooltips

if you take two players with identical gear but one of them took 2 minutes to read the tooltips and the other one has not

the man who's read the tooltips probably does everything twice as fast from mapping to bossing to farming gear

[pseudo parcel]

It isn't as prevalent in LE but they do exist

There's currently a multi page discussion on the forums asking for a pity system or guaranteed LP2 slams because the current system is "too grindy and unforgiving"

It's the same story over at PoE. Any game, really. The moment people have to put in effort or actually have to play/grind for something they're checking out or asking/demanding changes to accommodate that playstyle

Mind you, Last Epoch is already very forgiving as far as friction goes - in my opinion - but even that is too much for some

Throw in the points you made i.e not even wanting to do the bare minimum that is reading tooltips and understanding your character build on a basic level

To me it's like.. why even play the game at this point?

[simple reef]

the game is designed for casuals to be fair

[wooden mountain]

The dopamine hit of 'the item I wanted dropped' or the slam working remains even if you don't really know why it was so good

[simple reef]

i wanted a pity system for 1 LP slams, i mean i don't mind the powercreep that we just got with the guaranteed 1lp and stuff but it really doesn't solve the issue that was present last patch, now it's just being postponed to 2LP slams

[pseudo parcel]

There's nothing wrong with that inherently

[simple reef]

i think it was extremely important to add a pity system and not a guarantee system

because pity means that in order for the system to kick in, you first have to go through the work of failing some slams in the first place

now i get that it's hard to implement in a way that works, is intuitive, and isn't abusable. i totally get that

[pseudo parcel]

Yeah but the majority of players don't even have to go beyond LP1 imo, they can do all content in the game minus Uber maybe

As is I feel very rewarded when I hit a good LP2 and with LP3 it's already much easier again

[simple reef]

but now there is no satisfaction from hitting a 1lp slam that's 1), 2) if you brick your 2nd LP your item is just as worthless as the 1LPs you were bricking in previous seasons it is quite literally the exact same issue that they were trying to alleviate when implementing the current guarantee system

this whole thing achieved exactly nothing beyond adding powercreep

which again, i don't mind so much, but i doubt it's what EHG had in mind

[simple reef]

also if they wanted to do something about it they should buff imprints as it'll indirectly buff your 2LP slams

[pseudo parcel]

Imprints should be reverted to their bugged state imo

Make it a feature

[simple reef]

idk what the bugged state was

i've honestly never noticed any change in my imprints when ppl were crying or when they were done crying or whatever

pretty much felt the same for me the whole patch

[pseudo parcel]

I noticed it with some items like Orians and red rings

but I also think it wasn't problematic that people got a couple red rings a day

The main argument was Merchants Guild but MG has other problems than rare items being more accessible

[simple reef]

it's pretty funny how bad MG is

aside from idols it's like easier to farm your own gear than it is to buy it lol

[pseudo parcel]

Fix the integer limit and combat rmt first before taking item acquisition into consideration imo

[tribal basin]

almost sure the games limit is not 2^32-1 but 2^128-1

nvm i remembered the 1.0 shenanigans with visual -2.14 billion %

[tribal basin]

Dang , this couldve become a good one

redemption redemped wrongly

[arctic loom]

Dat feeling when you need to refill this again

[tribal basin]

tried to get Flat and Crit chance

[oblique hinge]

the worst feeling... i just decided to do carries if i want to fight him more lol

[steady yew]

Well you don’t get gear beside havoc no?

[oblique hinge]

Thats fine. i dont need much anymore its just fun for me to help people 🙂

[steady yew]

Es?

[oblique hinge]

im swarmblade druid

[steady yew]

Oh doesn’t it almost one shot uber ?

[oblique hinge]

it can yeah i dont run that version though

that version cant do monos

also im not sure if it can 1 shot with a carry

[steady yew]

I’m gonna get giga gear for speedrunning uber so I could do my 100 echoes

[oblique hinge]

i ran all mine in like 2 days

now its more of do i really wanna farm regular abby for more

[steady yew]

Well rn with ES I’m not certain to be able to consistently do it

So I’m gathering more gear for more dps aka ratboy time rot

[oblique hinge]

yeah i duo'd a 4 man abby with a timerot guy

it looked cool

he was 1 shotting the harbys

[steady yew]

Noobzor killed uber with giga gear in 2.5s

[oblique hinge]

yeah thats sick

takes me around a minute solo

i can problay build the 1 shot but i dont see a point anymore since im basically out of echos

[steady yew]

Normal aber take too much time I feel you with the locked first phase

[simple reef]

they should give uber a chance to drop another key if you kill it without dying

[oblique hinge]

this would be sick

or give me a key for helping someone else clear it

inf keys!

[simple reef]

also make that guaranteed if you kill it in less than 3 seconds, zero bias here

[oblique hinge]

kill it less then 3 seconds. with 3 other people in the party that dont help you at all

done

[simple reef]

idk if carries/group play is something that should be incentivized or that EHG wants to nurture

but if it is then keys would be nice yea

my personal opinion is that it makes the game worse but that's just me

[oblique hinge]

I dont really want loot just a key would be nice

whats wrong with group play? its already p good as it is with regular monos

[small goblet]

hey, I need help.
I working on dot build and see time rote dot, so I have question on is scaling.
I see it deal 60 base dmg, do the increased dmg from the skill that proc time rot count on it too?
it's a limited to 12 stack, if i proc a other stack, the ne one delete a older one or there is a priority of the stack that deal the more damage?

[oblique hinge]

this would problay be the best option regarding keys

[dawn swallow]

do u get keys if joining a party for regular aberoth ? cuz i have like 50 to run

[oblique hinge]

i dont think so no

how have ur ubers been going k8?

[arctic loom]

what corruption you guys farming?

[dawn swallow]

got 4 in a row yesterday

but then i tried duo and kept failing lol

[simple reef]

yall can do whatever you want as long as it's not an optimal farming strategy that is way stronger than solo play

as soon as it's like

you MUST party up with 3 other players so you dont have to farm keys all day and thus kill 4x as many ubers

yeah screw that

[dawn swallow]

uber shoudl give way more favor than it does also

[oblique hinge]

i think a key just dropping on a clean attempt is fine

dont need to make it drop with other people

[oblique hinge]

we need to do another quad uber that was alota fun

[simple reef]

one thing i despise about poe is mapping being more efficient in multiplayer than solo play, especially when you consider that the whole progression system is based on trade so even though 99% of people would rather play solo, they're still shooting themselves in the foot in comparison to group players

so i'd rather not have that kind of gameplay in LE

[oblique hinge]

its already here though

[simple reef]

how so

[oblique hinge]

i did it last night

me and 2 other guys rotated trove farms

[simple reef]

oh yeah

u can rotate nemesis towers too

[oblique hinge]

well ya

[simple reef]

and my opinion is that this design is absolute trash garbage and should be removed from the game 🙂

[oblique hinge]

well thats up to EHG

[simple reef]

now that you mention it it makes sense that i was talking to a multiplayer earlier and he was telling me things like "how do you not run out of havocs?" and "how you getting so few imprints?"

mfer i ain't got infinite troves

thanks i forgot about it and now i hate it again

[oblique hinge]

LOL

[simple reef]

actually tilting

[oblique hinge]

why did i say anything

[simple reef]

i mean it's ok i just hate it when games pull that kind of shit

it's probably not intentional either

but it's just like

[oblique hinge]

its kinda hard to avoid it in a multiplayer setting though

[dawn swallow]

surely tons of ppl in lfg looking for a carry and im down to join so at least 3 man

[simple reef]

i'd like to have data on what % of players actually prefer to play with a group

[dawn swallow]

i prefer group play but nobody plays this game

[simple reef]

cause i'm pretty sure that the vast majority of arpg players much prefer solo play

[oblique hinge]

i love playing with friends in this game ngl

[simple reef]

i could be totally wrong

but if my hypothesis is true then you ideally wouldn't want to create multiplayer fomo

if i'm wrong then i guess i'll shut my mouth

[dawn swallow]

my friends playing palia right now lmao

true gamer game

[oblique hinge]

i get about 3-4 weeks out of friends with this game then they quit

but they always come back and we have a blast doing multiplayer things in this game

[simple reef]

3-4 weeks is a long time tbh lmao

[oblique hinge]

ya ik

[simple reef]

compared to other groups or other players

[dawn swallow]

but i think i prefer this game over poe just for cof tbh

[oblique hinge]

ya alota people do

[simple reef]

but like if i'm looking at leaderboards which is a totally accurate metric since everybody LOVES arena

there's pretty much nobody on the multiplayer arena boards

[dawn swallow]

never done an arena in my life dont even know what it is does or drops

[oblique hinge]

not really a fair statement this season since arena needs a revamp

its so boring until wave 900-1k

[dawn swallow]

is it like simulacrum

[simple reef]

of course i was being sarcastic

[oblique hinge]

🤣

[simple reef]

it's a simulacrum that never ends and never drops loot

[simple reef]

idk if it needs a revamp or if it needs deleting ngl

[oblique hinge]

needs to be like current arena in echos

and 2-3x harder

[dawn swallow]

i love no loot mechanics in my arpg

[simple reef]

they should just copy paste grim dawn's crucible

[oblique hinge]

ya that would work too

i had fun pushing to 1.3k with a friend

but it wasnt fun till like wave 900

i understand i am a minority tho i only know like 5 people that like arena

[dawn swallow]

thing with this kind of stuff i feel like it just incentivizes tank builds and thats pretty much all that can push in these

and tank builds are lame

[oblique hinge]

dont call my tank serpent druid lame 😦

[dawn swallow]

lamo

[oblique hinge]

nah you cant tank much past 1.4-1.5k top arena right now is tornado shaman because they dont need to be near enemies

[dawn swallow]

ur not allowed to have tank and damage thats illegal

[oblique hinge]

🤔

ya this build totally getting gutted next season

im abusing it while i still can

[dawn swallow]

@simple reef how many attempts do u usually do before u get one that echoes when u need it to ?

[simple reef]

26% chance to echo

i think u can get a guaranteed 5 seconds kill if you have enough gear

[dawn swallow]

yeah i noticed combo damage with echo vs without is a world of diff

[simple reef]

like with my gear i'd need a 2lp relic and that'd prob do it

echo dmg is higher but it's not that much higher

if you don't echo you can just wait for your javelin cooldown and toss a 2nd javelin and kill then

the issue is that you need to get both of your javelins within the 4s julra buff window and you only have time to do that if you use CDR on boots

and if i lose 16 dex on boots then i think i dont have enough dmg to one shot

but that would be solved with a 2lp relic or t7 idol enchants

or something like that

[simple reef]

when i saw the frostbite/poison node i was like

obviously it reads like they are multiplicative with each other

which they are

but in my head i was still like

did they intend for it to be multiplicative or additive?

cus there's no way they took one node and thought

hmmmm yeah 2000x dmg modifier in one node is balanced

[oblique hinge]

🤣

i saw that node and started building it before bina made a video on it

[simple reef]

even rot grip is "only" a 152x dmg modifier 🙂

[oblique hinge]

about a couple days early was enough to get most of it before people caught wind

[simple reef]

i'd play the build if it wasn't minion 🤮

[oblique hinge]

i dont play the minion version

your talking the 7 second kill one?

[simple reef]

ye

i mean if it doesn't one shot i dont wanna play it 😂

[oblique hinge]

lolol

i kill in about a minute

but i more so designed it to carry

[simple reef]

i wonder what EHG is gonna do about class balance

[oblique hinge]

the amount of ES players ive carried ubers for is actually kinda comical

[simple reef]

i mean

uber is a hard boss for non-geared players no matter what your build is

[oblique hinge]

thats true

[simple reef]

unless it's falconer

it's still not trivial on falconer but it's definitely not hard

xdd

but ye i wonder if EHG is just gonna axe whatever has the fastest kills on youtube regardless of gear/difficulty/investment

cus it's like there's so many builds that can kill uber quickly but that ppl just haven't bothered to gear yet

[oblique hinge]

serpent strike druid is def pretty braindead

just mega tank hard to die damage is good

[simple reef]

like one person might look at the top builds and think "it's just 5 builds, class balance is so bad" but it's just like there's only so much time in a day to get double t7 on every gear slot, you can't do that on 10 different builds in one season

[oblique hinge]

@dawn swallow you madman are u inviting more people

[simple reef]

it's so many more than 5 builds that sub 1 uber, if you axe the current top 5 builds and call it a day ppl are just gonna do the same thing with something else in 1.3

[oblique hinge]

yep

[simple reef]

i dont know much about serpent strike but at least it didn't look like it needs so much gear to put out damage

like the 1 shot gear is actually relatively "easy" to acquire

[oblique hinge]

yeah its not bad

im not sure how consistant it is though i see alot of people complaining

[simple reef]

yeah i guess the minions can die and shit

imagine playing minions

i figure more gear should make it consistent anyway

[oblique hinge]

i havent seen anyone do it besides that reddit post i saw

[simple reef]

i havent seen other ppl on javelin either

[silk wasp]

I attempted Uber once with FWs and immediately stopped trying after he wiped them instantly.

[simple reef]

i mean i've heard of other ppl on javelin but i haven't seen gameplay or heard of ppl one shotting

[oblique hinge]

there was a guy in the primalist channel number crunching it in offline mode

spent like 2 days in there trying to get 1 shot down with minimal gear

[simple reef]

I'd just spend 2 days to get the gear instead but that's alright

[oblique hinge]

yeah thats what i was thinking

i didnt say anything though

why bother

[simple reef]

i mean there's definitely some value to doing things with the least amount of investment

then you know exactly what you need next season when the build is nerfed to the ground anyway

[oblique hinge]

its totally getting nerfed

theres no shot

[simple reef]

or if you're a build guide guy and need your thing to function with a 30 minutes a day gear budget

so the youtube comment section doesn't get mad and call your build trash

[oblique hinge]

i do feel bad for some people that play the build im playing

because i dont know how it plays compared to what there experiencing

i premade most of the gear from my VK and just made a druid and got power leveled 🤣

[simple reef]

lol

same with me and timerot

i mean that's the fun part about LE tho

you're so strong when you reroll

[oblique hinge]

went from 7 minute VK kills to 1 minute druid kills

[simple reef]

what vk build?

7 mins is crazy lol

[oblique hinge]

it was a home brewed ms smite vk

like not really any guides or anything

gear was cheap off meta stuff

i really got to dial in the fight though

[simple reef]

what's ms?

[silk wasp]

Multistrike

[oblique hinge]

multistrike

[simple reef]

oh

[oblique hinge]

im watching kayt do a 4 man uber now

passing the torch

[simple reef]

primalist is the only class I've never rolled but i might be interested in a maelstrom build one day

if it looks anything like what the shrine does anyway

running fast and things around you die? sign me up coach

[flint inlet]

how much of javalin time rot's uber damage is acutally from the shattered world's frenzy buff?

[simple reef]

sim it using the damage calculator that's in the channel pins

[flint inlet]

oh there is a damage calc..thanks!

[simple reef]

like 7.5% i guess

more if you have less aspd

[oblique hinge]

Kayt couldnt do it 😦

[simple reef]

rip

4x uber too strong

[oblique hinge]

its actually hilarious when u get 3 random people tho

legit puddles everywhere

🤣

[simple reef]

yikes

[oblique hinge]

it doesnt bother me any but u can tell theres panic going around

[flint inlet]

does the spreadsheet assume the julra rings? because 205 dex is a bit too high

[simple reef]

ye

i could make a checkbox for julras rings but I'm too lazy

[arctic loom]

Hi @simple reef can you send the dmg calc for ES again? Please thanks!

[simple reef]

it's pinned

[arctic loom]

I’ve been trying to push my uberroth run. So far it’s just 48sec haha

[arctic loom]

Thanks!

[arctic loom]

So i just need to edit the green cells? Sorry im confused with the layout

[simple reef]

yes

[arctic loom]

Also how is the shattered chains giving 120%?

[simple reef]

more damage per stack of doom

[steady yew]

Void dmg slam?

[simple reef]

each cell takes 1 (100%) as a base and add 20% to that

[flint inlet]

how to farm double exalts? I got like 3 2lp BBC's but no exalts to slam them with

[arctic loom]

Ohhhhhhh

[simple reef]

find one to begin with and then imprint it to find more

yes you have to be rich in order to be richer

[oblique hinge]

4 man solo uber down. got it first try

[steady yew]

How long ?

how much hp increase is that 280% cause 70% per players?

[unborn cypress]

Is the build for ES VK on Maxroll correct?

[simple reef]

the early passives in VK tree are kinda bad

don't take leech

rest is prob fine

[oblique hinge]

340% 2min 30ish second kill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuF4jv3gJLE

[steady yew]

Damn what kind of dmg your doing lol solo I think it take me 3/4min

[zinc tangle]

what should i reroll for t7

% mana or flat mana

[oblique hinge]

no idea total dps but serpent strike druid shts out damage

[arctic loom]

ohhhhh. is it easy to use? no need mechanics (i.e snapshotting)?

[hollow hound]

I finally killed Uber Abby today!

[bold heron]

Hi, How does Void Spell Mana Efficiency work?

[frigid zenith]

100% efficiency should be 50% mana cost

same as CDR formula I think

1/(1+eff)

[thorny spoke]

Yo congrats! Well done. Which build did you do it with?

[arctic loom]

for armours, which is a better affix? mana or mana%?

[frigid zenith]

on ES I think it's flat because ws gives such a huge % already

[arctic loom]

how about for health? is it flat or %?

[simple reef]

%

and % over hybrid as well

[arctic loom]

Thanks!

[forest kelp]

Legend begin

[solar tiger]

How exactly do y'all compare numbers on gear as to which is stronger? The math gets pretty long with all the modifiers involved.

[simple reef]

heuristics, whip out a calculator rq, or make a spreadsheet, or a combination of both

up to you really

[marsh belfry]

or hire Noobzor I heard his pritty good with numbers

[frigid zenith]

just did some tests and looks like devouring orb is bugged, it's not applying debuffs on every hit

if it got fixed we'd be seeing a lot more stacks on some debuffs 👀

[solar tiger]

Idk if I'm smart enough to make a spreadsheet for this stuff.

[old quest]

which stats does electrify scale with? Attunement?

[hollow veldt]

Hello any Es player ?

[hollow veldt]

for helm i think mana % and flat is the best

[hollow hound]

I'm horrible with mechanics so judgement pally...

[turbid dome]

Practice the mechanics while on judgement pally

[waxen nymph]

% Lightning Dmg, Ele dmg, Dot Dmg, Lightning pen
Also if you have the passive in Paladin: Crit Multi

[thorny spoke]

Thinking of building this next. Was there a build you followed?

[marsh belfry]

Yaaay an upgrade from my 1LP MS Boots

Kinda big caus I can remove my last Humble weaver Idol now

still got a copy for when I get 3LP xD

[steep trail]

hey whats up nerds, hows it going

[simple reef]

nerding

[uneven gorge]

going

[turbid dome]

Working

[steep trail]

same

[steady yew]

Any build is better to learn than judgement

Since uber just perma spam his short range skill you can’t really practice on the placement

Since he will always jump back

[hybrid saddle]

which ability in Paladin is best for getting hp and surviving

[turbid dome]

fair

[pseudo parcel]

I disagree

Judgement is amazing to learn the fight

[turbid dome]

That was more my original point, it’s much easier to see and get a feel of the fight when your stupidly tanky

[hollow veldt]

hello guys i have a +4 Es titan heart and i was wondering if worth switch to one with +3 Es and 12% mana

[pine tree]

If someone has a moment can you take a look at my time rot build and see if there is anything im missing or easyish upgrades I could grab for more damage?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKG4bznA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (83)

General:

▸ Health: 4,019, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 271.84, Regen: 13.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 54%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 41 Str / 80 Dex / 27 Int / 27 Att / 54 Vit
▸ Resistances: 85% / 74% / 71% / 75% / 103% / 105% / 105%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 804
▸ Dodge Chance: 18% (614)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,791)

Used skills:

Javelin / Void Cleave / Abyssal Echoes / Anomaly / Devouring Orb

[hollow hound]

I followed the maxroll guide mostly, for the uber abby fight i did end up specing in to cleansing light on the judgement skill tree.

[wooden mountain]

looks sweet to me

[waxen nymph]

@alpine canopy
#🎥┃video-shoutout message

Going in the correct channel 😅

[alpine canopy]

For a second I was like, how are you using swipe? 😂

The big warpath is so neat looking

[waxen nymph]

If you stop the image mid spin, it looks like a big chicken claw

[quiet hearth]

WP needs a bigger radius by default imo

[pine tree]

do any guests get drops from the harbinger echo? if so im about to run about 20 in a row for the black blade

[dawn swallow]

hi chat anything else i can do other than getting 2lp health rolls to be more tanky for like 2k+ corruption runs ? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxM5zg1o

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.5

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (83)

General:

▸ Health: 2,908, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 240.22, Regen: 11.28/s
▸ Ward Retention: 59%, Regen: 16/s
▸ Attributes: 71 Str / 49 Dex / 25 Int / 25 Att / 52 Vit
▸ Resistances: 90% / 80% / 81% / 76% / 95% / 104% / 105%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 653
▸ Dodge Chance: 12% (378)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 66% (5,546)

Used skills:

Javelin / Void Cleave / Abyssal Echoes / Anomaly / Devouring Orb

[glad scaffold]

Im running a level 97 time rot javelin build right now other than passive skill differences what other stats or hidden upscales will i get when i make it 100?

[tribal basin]

Whatever Noobzor did with the javelin Time rotter , thats the thing that FG needs just for Ignite

Meanwhile Rot Grip is way too overtuned

[dawn swallow]

nah its ethical

dw about it

[tribal basin]

Mhmmm

its clearlythe fault of the FG node that gives more damage per mana used for Attacks

[simple reef]

still gotta remember that quicksand is bugged

and that the dps of the build with literally negative hp and the most minmaxed set in the game is still about as much as some 2lp falconer stacking health

gotta let EHG fix the bugS first and see where it stands after

it'll still be overtuned but it looks a lot more so than it actually is due to quicksand bug

[glad scaffold]

Which time rot build you guys follow for both mapping at 1500c and bossing?

[dawn swallow]

just do the maxroll one its good for all content

[glad scaffold]

Im running that but i feel like im doing low damage

[dawn swallow]

link planner i guess

[glad scaffold]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/TulkasValinor/character/Morgoth

I switched to this one from maxroll for more survivability and damage but still not content

[dawn swallow]

can already see u missing like the +4

[glad scaffold]

I have a +4 anomaly helmet but not sure if it is preferrable to time rot helmet

[dawn swallow]

maxroll seems to say prio is +4 but idk about the math

[simple reef]

+4 anomaly is for single target

[pine tree]

bugged how?\

[vague garnet]

Is void rot the strongest build in the game

It sure looks that way

It can annihilate Uber Abby…. Is it better than ES for high corruption echo farming?

[silk wasp]

Swarmblade druid has the faster uber kill I think

[turbid dome]

falconer did it stupid fast with only blue gear

[vague garnet]

I have a pretty beast falconer and can do uber in 30-40 secs but it looks like time rot does it much faster

Im more concerned about a build that can do both well

[turbid dome]

ah

time rot probably looses to worldsplitter erasing strike... but time rot builds are also way newer

so theres been less time to refine it

[tardy mirage]

it will have a lower ceiling for sure

its a dot that cant stack infinitely

[turbid dome]

yea

[tardy mirage]

where that ceiling is tho ... no clue xD

[turbid dome]

new relic, military clock -> time rot now stacks to 24

[tardy mirage]

lol

[tardy mirage]

now it works like future strike tho

xD

[turbid dome]

thats just nerfing future strike even more

[tardy mirage]

I MEAN its a scaleable future strike

xD

[turbid dome]

future strike has no stack cap

its entire problem is that there were and are basically no ways to get future strike chance

[tardy mirage]

but ye it doesnt become future strike ... it just acts like it ... all of time rot dmg becomes delayed but it can stack to 24 instead of 12

[turbid dome]

I'd rather future strike keep its special thing + it gets more support

[tardy mirage]

never gonna happen uwu

[turbid dome]

[hollow veldt]

any good Es filter guys ?

[tribal basin]

Smelters wrath had some bugs in 1.1 , was also similar like that but with More damage stacking unintentional

or you mean Quicksand with Immediacy node ?

[tardy mirage]

so it got worse?

[tribal basin]

It also oneshot Abberoth

And Traversal Voidcleave for the Boost on Julras is certainly also a huge buff

i believe Manifest Armor can also Snapshot the Buffs on Julras Obsession as well as forged Weapons but the weapons are simply too short lived to be really able to aboose that

[dawn swallow]

1lp rot better for uber than es, more damage, easier time
1lp es better for high corrup than rot, less demanding just have to spam es even for big hp mobs
in my experience

still havent gotten a single kill as es but i chained 4 in a row with rot so yea

but having a way easier time at 1k5+ corrup on es

[arctic loom]

FINALLY! After so many failed 3LP slams T_T too many double t7s wasted on this

[turbid dome]

[spiral quail]

4190/1996 is insane xD gz

[vale lantern]

wanna see something more crazy?

[noble helm]

Any use for Event Horizon? I think the item is really cool, but doesn't seem very useful

[dawn swallow]

noobzor did some math and it could be good on uber apparently

i dont have more details

[tardy mirage]

TIL you can pause the game and use flasks in offline at the same time

[tardy mirage]

probably not

but 1lp apathy maw with melee void would probably be better

[forest kelp]

I have completely given up on the idea of target farming a good Clotho

[random pendant]

going for the 3 lp worldsplitter, wish me luck boys

[forest kelp]

No hope 🙏

[inland vault]

What kind echo is it ?

[frigid zenith]

probably the solo harbinger echo

[random pendant]

not even a 2 lp 🥹

got a few 1 lps though, maybe turtle giveth

[waxen nymph]

😅

[random thorn]

i've killed uberroth and still haven't found a t7 void clotho lol

(obv used es for uberoth)

[forest kelp]

Was found 30m ago lollllllll

[random thorn]

gg wow

[forest kelp]

When I gave up, it came to me on its own 😂

[frigid zenith]

slam 🔨 !

noice, both slam success 😄

[random thorn]

dafaq

[frigid zenith]

I still have a couple of the 2LPs as backup but I'm out of exalts to slam them

thankfully this worked out in one go 😓

[random thorn]

@frigid zenith what corr are you?

[frigid zenith]

~1.4k

need to get my HP up on me ES since it gets stray oneshot sometimes

the rive build I'm running right now seem much more comfy on 1.4k tho so I can probably push higher easier than my ES

but it's struggling a lot more vs ubby

💀

[random thorn]

surely you've killed ubby if you're doing 1.4k?

[frigid zenith]

on my es yeah

the rive build isn't really finished yet, I just caught its corr up to my es with the shade echo and tried running the monos with it

but even when finished I doubt it can kill ubby as comfy as es

[cobalt blade]

If only smelter is comfy for ubby

[tribal basin]

yeah if only ...

im not giving up tho , i only lack the items i wanna test out ... still

[cobalt blade]

Lmao i just found out smelter has the lowest build in LEtools at 0.3%

What a nice day to learn i picked a skill that almost no one use for S2

Dread's Sep 2024 smelter was the latest smelter build posted still

[tribal basin]

Its slow and its More multis got capped

[cobalt blade]

Wasnt that a bug that got fixed

[tribal basin]

a missing cap is not a bug

its just devs not being good in realizing that things without cap will get aboosed till kingdom come

[cobalt blade]

Oof

[tribal basin]

especially if non capped things double dip into other non capped things

10000% x 10000% do go hard

[cobalt blade]

Welp my smelter cant clear ubby

[tribal basin]

that was the issue with the serpent venom node in Serpens trike skill from primalist , it basically scaled itself as a more multi

[cobalt blade]

Ahh

[tribal basin]

but Smelters could be used as a combo ender like many things , Shield bash , Forge strike and Javelin have next atatck used after this or 4 second window to do stuffs

Forge strike bottom left 2 nodes , 4 seconds of More damage and global Pen that can stack if used fast enough sequentially.

problem is also you dont have for example good idols that boost melee fire damage or Ignite by a lot , there is bleed and phys damage over time but that doesnt help SWrath much

looking at Idol affixes makes me sad now :/

[cobalt blade]

My smelter do no dmg to ubby because my FWs dont survive

Problem for a backloaded dmg build

[tribal basin]

because you need to scale attunement for them to have health but then you dont have strenght for armor and your normal attacks

[cobalt blade]

I doubt they survive regardless, ubby's arena is chaos

Lotsa dots and aoe

And beeg slams

[tribal basin]

yeah , FWs are good for normal enemies and for getting Dots done fast or shreds

[bleak roost]

Which alt uniques are good for leveling a Sentinel?

[waxen nymph]

I love Firestarter

And lvl with Smite

You go ignite/Spreading Flame

[bleak roost]

Gotcha, ty!

@waxen nymph just slammed my only Kestrel with FireDoT not realising it's a mage affix... rip

[waxen nymph]

Oh no

It's also a Sentinel affix but
Oh no

💀

Iirc there is 2 versions

That's so weird

[vale lantern]

guess they only want those 2 classes to have access

clunky way to do it for sure

[waxen nymph]

But that could be 1 affix

[silk wasp]

Sentinels aren't allowed to scale ignite until level 32

It's FORBIDDEN

[vale lantern]

are there any affix's where they duel tag class restrictions?

off the top of my head I cant think of any

[silk wasp]

There's a bunch of idol affixes like that iirc

[waxen nymph]

Does that count?

Ah !

[vale lantern]

I don't think so because ity doesn't class tag the item which based on sotirios reaction I think fire dot does?

[waxen nymph]

Got it

Only sentinel and rogue can get % Mana

[vale lantern]

yeah I think that one fits

the only reason to do firedot the way they did it then is because they wanted to have the 2 classes get it at different levels

but that's just odd

[waxen nymph]

It is

[tribal basin]

Vlad .. im out of ideas , also sad and tired .. does fire dot work on fg ?

[golden marten]

hellou, got a question.. skilled Smite with unbalance scale and desperate measures, does doesperate measures work for the cost of unbalanace scale?

[waxen nymph]

Shield Rush?

Jasper

Ignite Shield Throw?

That sound better on Paladin

[alpine canopy]

% mana is just a more generic stat. tbf also multi-class affixes are still bugged too, so if they did combine the shards it would let you slam them onto generic uniques and then equip them on any class

[alpine canopy]

Like fire aura RoS?
(Don't actually try this)

[gleaming pine]

you can slam that %mana onto a peak of the mountain and it doesnt get a class tag though, so primalist can use it.

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, that's the multi-class affix bug

[tribal basin]

everything sounds better on paladin -_-

[halcyon swallow]

What is the second best slam for erasing strike VK? Attack speed doesn't seem right, since you eventually run out of mana.
I am guessing either crit multi or void pen.
Anyone tested this out?

[tribal basin]

we speculated how that can be doen , need the flat minion Spell damage on stuff that has high % minion damage by default like Scales om Lemonskates

[simple reef]

multi

[halcyon swallow]

ty

[tranquil drift]

My watch has ended.

[waxen nymph]

It sound doable.... With a double t7 lemniscale

[tribal basin]

i have almost 2 stashes full with 1 Lp Lemonskates , need to visit the Turtle

[simple reef]

quicksand is supposed to reduce your dot duration by 1/(1+25% per point), so a bit less than half duration with 5/5, but instead it's reducing it by a lot more than that, causing your dots to bleed out almost instantly, which isn't a dps increase but it does increase your burst damage leading to high single ticks skipping uber phases and being able to one shot

there are other bugs in the anomaly tree resulting overall in lower timerot dps but higher burst, thus nerfing the build for most ppl at a lower gear budget, and breaking uber at really high budget

[bleak roost]

Reflect early leveling feels nice too xD

[frigid zenith]

@random thorn with your blessing the rive VK finally beat uber too 😄

probably not gonna do this again for a while, I'll just take the ES one for a spin if I want to farm uber again

[random thorn]

Niiice

[waxen nymph]

Why wait to get hit

When you get burn 2 screens away

[bleak roost]

I'll grab javelin now and see how it feels, I had enough of Smite with the dual Palarus on my Werebear

[frigid zenith]

smiting bear

[pine tree]

So when it comes to doing DPS should I always hold javelin for when I have anomaly or just always press javelin on cooldown?

[simple reef]

press it off cooldown and anomaly too (just don't hit anomaly when uber is DR'ed or immune)

quicksand doesn't increase your dps it just speeds up your dots to give the same amount of damage in a burst instead of 6-7 seconds, there's no timing involved unless you are trying to skip phases with very high gear

[pine tree]

So there’s no need to line them up? Since technically it’s not a DPS increase it’s just a burst increase?

(For ubberoth)

[tribal basin]

Void cleave + the buff from Julra rings makes it tick higher

[simple reef]

correct, you just want anomaly up at all times because you do get buffs from it (aspd and cdr) and it applies the mark of rot debuff to uber (+50% dmg taken)

timing anomaly is only for more advanced one shot stuff

[pine tree]

Thank you 🙏 😊

[tribal basin]

And it even feels as if double void cleave stacks the Buff also by a double

[simple reef]

but it's only applicable if you have very high gear in the first place

[pine tree]

I’ve considered swapping red. Rings for julra rings but I don’t think that’s enough damage to overcome the tankiness loss

[simple reef]

i'm pretty sure i've tested that and it's not the case but i'll test it again

[tribal basin]

Julras is really only for Insta kills not for normal gameplay

[simple reef]

you can use julra for normal gameplay if you don't need to be more tanky (that's gonna depend on your playstyle/familiarity with mechanics)

[tribal basin]

its also a reason why i considered the traversal cooldown on Belts with Potion spam to get more Void Cleaves in

Does Healing Hand also count for julras if you took the one node ?

[simple reef]

stardial is like the strongest ring in the game for any build that doesn't need a specific interaction from another unique like phantoms grip or siphon of anguish

like if they want to nerf anything they should nerf julras lol cause they can nerf timerot if they want but ppl are just gonna slap julra's on something else and it's going to be just as ridiculous

[tribal basin]

and siphon also doesnt do much on its own without other sources that work with it

[simple reef]

but also i hope they don't nerf julra's cause it's fun. the most sensible nerf would be to raise its LP level or something

[simple reef]

yeah

any traversal/movement, even evade

[alpine canopy]

I really do want to try it... I just think it's super unlikely to be decent 🥲

Even with a lot of investment

[tribal basin]

just like my Love life , Julras is also only good for 4 seconds after i move something fast

[simple reef]

just tested double void cleave again on dummies and i can confirm it does not stack for +10 timerots on your next throwing

[simple reef]

if they fix the bugs in anomaly tree (cycle of decay) it becomes permanent 🙂

[tribal basin]

i wanted to make a pp joke

dang 😞

[simple reef]

yeah i feel that

i hope EHG will fix all the bugs in the anomaly tree and not just quicksand

cause if they fix quicksand without restoring cycle of decay's functionality that wouldn't be very interesting

[tribal basin]

we need just many people reporting the bugs

[simple reef]

im assuming they're aware of it

considering it's one shotting uber

[tribal basin]

but they could be Awarer 👀

[simple reef]

so if it hasn't been fixed yet it's probably just harder to fix than it might seem

[tribal basin]

they addressed the Abberoth one shot with Smelters Wrath in 1.1

[thorny spoke]

Julras is always OP because its like a universal means to further amplify something else that is OP.

But I don't think that means it should be nerfed. I think it's one of the funnest items in the game.

[simple reef]

yeah agreed, just easy to get with 2lp and double T7 these days

since they buffed slams

[thorny spoke]

I can't think of anything Julras makes overpowered that wasn't already overpowered without it.

Julra's takes stuff to a diff galaxy tho.

Which is super fun

[simple reef]

yeah i think that's fair

but also

when it comes to one shotting bosses (or killing really really quickly) they definitely have to factor in julra's if they think it's a red flag for build balance

cause it's just always gonna happen when a build is pretty strong without stardials

you just slap on these bad boys and it's a one shot

[tribal basin]

on the other side , its also the only way to make Smelters Wrath be Average

yeah .. Rayehs Chariot node in HH makes it also into a Traversal skill

huh .. a thing i havent considered yet

Also why is the Large Ornate Idol giving Rive and Judgmenet the Crit Multi and not Smelters Wrath and judgement .. another case of FG being gutted

[pine tree]

Does anyone have any secrets to how to properly play javelin time rot for mapping? What I’ve been doing is unspeccing the cooldown node in javelin and basically playing it as a ranged build but it feels kinda low damage. Or is the answer to just go back to erasing if I want to speed farm corruption

[arctic wave]

if you really want to speedfarm erasing is the way but time rot should be able to kill things by walking around at 1-2k corr

someone here suggested using hammer throw

instead of javelinf or clear as well

you could try it out and see if that vibes w u

[thorny spoke]

I find that Void cleave is pretty awesome for mapping tbh. Like, I'm still one shotting things at 1k+.

I just respec erasing tbh.

Erasing is such a pleasure to map with.

Especially after playing sv druid. 🤢

[pine tree]

That might be the play. the real question is to i just level another vk because switching is a pain

[unborn cypress]

For the ES VK build is it better to take the leech passives or the increased health passives near the beginning of the tree?

[arctic wave]

hp, you get leech from gear

[shy crown]

Guys why multistrike is viable with smite but without it no one plays it?

my multi deals 30k and smite 5k... its is worth to focus on smite ?

[unborn cypress]

Which gear? Siphon of anguish?

[sick lintel]

anyone got a good smite warpath build this season

[simple reef]

it's a devouring orb build in maps

the secret is you just walk up to mobs and they die to devouring orb

[arctic wave]

are there any build that use RR with strength imprinted on it?

[pine tree]

time rot

Dex is more damage but str still good

[simple reef]

dex is so busted honestly i dont really like strength anymore

[steady yew]

wtf from 0 to 2 in one go

[pine tree]

YUGE

[simple reef]

gz

now 2 to 4 🙂

[steady yew]

sad for the roll tho

now i need to think at what to slam on this

[simple reef]

prob just slam and reroll after if it hits

[steady yew]

will i would need another 2lp to reroll

:/

At least i have this to imprint now

and a reason to do so

[flint inlet]

so the maxroll's javalin time rot uses leonine helm...but isn't blind from abyssal echoes enough for crit immunity?

[steady yew]

You could use something else

like decayed skull on 3lp

[flint inlet]

that was my thinking...

[turbid dome]

Lady Luck favors you

cause holy crap thats an unlikely event

[flint inlet]

or the one with cdr implicit

[thorny spoke]

Turtle that. This shattered worlds is clearly destined for greatness.

[pine tree]

Do it

4lp guaranteed

[thorny spoke]

No guts no glory

[simple reef]

not enough

[steady yew]

never happened so far xD

how likely is this more dmg compare to timerot on hit ?

[turbid dome]

given this part of rotgrip I'd assume timerot chance is gonna mean bigger damage

assuming you have like 700% increased damage for it without that

[simple reef]

u can compare using the spreadsheet sim

i havent done the math but i assume it's like not even close to time rot chance

[tribal basin]

if 340% chance will become 680% damage , thats wild

Added Time Rot chance on Armor and Helmet cap out at 90% on armor and 60% on helmets tho

but thats 180% and 120% with that node

[simple reef]

this is not increased damage it's multiplicative

[tribal basin]

Dear lord ...

[thorny spoke]

Yeah the time rot chance is its own bucket. %damage just adds to the main %damage bucket

[dense tendon]

huh i thought that was 1% per 2% chance instead

[simple reef]

that's 1.3

[solid pine]

what is a target/safe Block Effectiveness for Uber Abby

I currently have 64% (3711)... would this be ok for Abby or should I reroll my shield to get more

[simple reef]

for hardcore?

[frigid zenith]

man these shit hits so hard

not even a crit

[solid pine]

No .. regular

[pine tree]

If youre softcore just go test it and see. You can kill him without being able to tank the pizza

[solid pine]

Fair. I like to overprepare lol

[pine tree]

just bash your head into it and you will learn eventually. Especially if you suck like me.

[flint inlet]

I am stuck at final phase:( between necrotiv waves, pizza slam and void beam...one of them always gets me

[pine tree]

Youll get it. First kill took me like 300-400 tries because i didnt look anything up and just bashed my face into it

[flint inlet]

I looked everything up...but the fight never goesw like in the videos...seems there are a lot more void orbs when I fight him

[pine tree]

What build are you playing

[flint inlet]

erasing strike

[turbid dome]

are you using the fire orb thing to remove the evil void soup puddles

[flint inlet]

yes I am when I can

[turbid dome]

you can bring a last laugh to execute him at 20% remaining health

[flint inlet]

my best is like 50% after he heals to 80%

[turbid dome]

ah

[simple reef]

how long does it take you to get there?

[flint inlet]

so I have some ways to go before last laugh can help

3-4 minutes I am guessing

[simple reef]

send your planner? though i figure it's probably a mechanical issue

[turbid dome]

you have armor shred right

[flint inlet]

It is..you already helped me...I replaced suloron's with darkstride

I have some armor shred but not on weapon...can't get 2lp world splitter to grab armor shred

[simple reef]

nope dont do that

shred on splitter is really trolling

[flint inlet]

maxroll suggested that

[simple reef]

on a 4lp splitter?

[flint inlet]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/amol447/character/kalubali

[simple reef]

yikes i just looked at the maxroll suggested axe

xd

[flint inlet]

since the second affix they suggest is armor shred...I tried to get T7/T6 exalts with those mods on my axe but it kept missing..and 2lp world splitter itself is hard to farm

[turbid dome]

shred goes on gloves or idols

[flint inlet]

which is what I have

[simple reef]

first of all it is NOT the 2nd affix they suggest as they are ordered by tier so there is a reading comprehension problem there

[flint inlet]

oh hell

[simple reef]

second of all don't blindly follow people's guides without using your own brain as they don't even recommend the 2 best affixes after melee void damage which are crit multi and void damage%

[simple reef]

it goes on amulet imo

[flint inlet]

fortunately my axe did pick up void damage!

[simple reef]

but of course that's a luxury

[dense tendon]

how do you figure void damage % is better than penetration

[simple reef]

by doing math

using for example the spreadsheet that is pinned

[flint inlet]

the spreadsheet I guess...but I got to know of that only yesterday

[simple reef]

well math was invented long before that spreadsheet thankfully

[dense tendon]

where's the idol prefix in the spreadsheet

[simple reef]

you have to do the math for your own setup, void damage% might or might not be better depending on what you have slammed in other slots

[simple reef]

echo damage?

[flint inlet]

so should I not be taking 3-4 minutes with my gear?

[turbid dome]

that works too, just less common cause of all the juicey unique amulets

[dense tendon]

so to start off i should set every "upgrade" cell to 0 yeah?

[simple reef]

yeah

more modifiers stays on 100%

[simple reef]

it sounds about right

you probably just need to get more reps in, dodge the void balls better, and play around the edges of the map

that way when it gets to the final phase, ideally your puddles would be placed on the edges and not in the middle of the area

[flint inlet]

I do math for a living so my propensity to do too much in a game is far less.