oh ya, will do +4 judge since playing judge but ya i guess the frenzy doesnt really matter
#🔱┃sentinel
tranquil drift
waxen nymph
What are you playing?
daring pumice
ES void knight
waxen nymph
I have a feeling the answer will be mana
marsh belfry
T7 Mana
solar tiger
Do I ever reach a point with shield bash where I stop just stunlocking bosses to death?
Bc it's honestly a bit silly
I have no clue how hard the timeline boss is at this point because I've spent the past 200 corruption just repeatedly stunning his attempts to cast things
pseudo parcel
Do I ever reach a point with shield bash where I stop just stunlocking bosses to...
Yeah
Normal Abberoth isn't permanently stunned
everything else mostly is 
solar tiger
Lol that's something I guess
I noticed some of the harbingers in Fading Brink seemed more resistant too
pseudo parcel
female Harbinger sometimes jumps away but I haven't had any trouble with bosses otherwise
as for difficulty, if you use horns, things can hurt you after 700 corruption when your ring of shields are down
I solved that by going Majasa and having unconditional 100% block at all times in exchange for less dps
The upside is mana cost no longer being an issue
If you don't mind your health being jumpy you can also play Bulwark of the Abyss, the buff gives you some damage back
tribal basin
i spent the whole day farming Uhkeiros for the shield , burned all my Envy Glyphs , not a single hit on a good LP 1 or on a good Egg Roll
what are you guys using as wepaon for shield bashing ?
pseudo parcel
Horizon is your best bet
solar tiger
Ironically I threw the one I got into an egg and it came out with...block effectiveness. Thanks Nem!
Only T6 but it works for now
pseudo parcel
both Horizon and Horns are a pain to LP2 though
solar tiger
Yeah they're high level. I've gotten a few LP1 Horizons but nothing better
tribal basin
Horns are 1 in 1496 to 2 LP them
pseudo parcel
Yeah
pseudo parcel
Horizon is 1,5k or something
tribal basin
i got a Horizon with % Melee damage thanks to Egg
pseudo parcel
Horizon with just melee crit goes hard though
solar tiger
My very first one ever, dropped 1 LP
tribal basin
but ! id argue a 1 or 2 Lp Swordcatcher with +6 Levels is better
solar tiger
The base rolls are, unfortunately, really bad
pseudo parcel
or if you want to troll, more stun effect
tribal basin
Also getting Block effect Idols is a pain as well
tardy mirage
i can play bonk now uwu
well i chickened out of waiting till worldsplitter to swap
so using apathy rn
spiral quail
what a godddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!! thanks for this
solar tiger
Why exactly DOES shield bash run Oceareon? Like I see the more damage per shock but given how slow you attack surely that's not worth more than a more powerful ring?
lament star
Why exactly DOES shield bash run Oceareon? Like I see the more damage per shock ...
its preference
there is also the less dmg taken
dense tendon
where are these more powerful rings at
solar tiger
I hear there's these red rings that are pretty good
lament star
they good too but they dont give dmg 😄
pseudo parcel
You can go red ring but Oceareon is better offensive
solar tiger
5% more damage from 5 strength says otherwise
lament star
its not more
solar tiger
It's for sure LESS damage
solar tiger
Iron Arms says more damage on the node, is that incorrect?
lament star
u get a multi on iron arms sure
but ocearon would give you a different multi
so it multiplies your iron arms multiplier
dense tendon
they better add some generic physical damage ring then season or im gonna explode
solar tiger
Can you get a 2LP red ring? I think not
Fair, I'm still stuck at 1 LP for Oceareon too but it's definitely more reasonable than red ring
lament star
turtle makes it even more doable
glossy sphinx
Can you elaborate? I actually never did any dungeon outside of Temporal Sanctum
dense tendon
do this but with glyphs instead of runes (dont actually do it)
glossy sphinx
Interesting, thanks
tardy mirage
Why exactly DOES shield bash run Oceareon? Like I see the more damage per shock ...
defense and offense ... chill to slow things down ... less damage from the chilled enemies
offense more dmg to shock ... its a sapphire base so mana and mana regen ... its nice
turbid dome
What should I aim other than Hybrid health
If your only gonna have hybrid health, it’s just better to replace it with %increased health
turbid dome
Tho hybrid + increased + something else would be solid
Hybrid + % health + cleanse aliments affix
Cleanse aliments on potion use is very very good
Unless you already have a way to cleanse aliments
scenic gyro
What should I aim other than Hybrid health
t7 extra pots, great for farming, infinite blinks if you use vr
grim fog
t7 extra pots, great for farming, infinite blinks if you use vr
Using PLD Warpath/throwing/Smite
glossy sphinx
@vale lantern thanks for the tips
harsh nova
oblique hinge
<:POG:799783247121743883>
You ever do uber with ms smite?
oblique hinge
Nice!
oblique hinge
yea
i did a 6 minute kill on my DW ms smite build and after i geared him with a staff it actually took a bit longer 😦
now im killing him almost sub minute with my druid
harsh nova
was probably just gonna build a zhp character for farming uber
harsh nova
isn't falconeer doing like multipler ubers per second
oblique hinge
it got nerfed a bit from the update but yeah
still problay strongest out there
i dont have one though
harsh nova
nado druid?
harsh nova
playing ssf so if i get help on the last bit just feels like defeating the purpose of the way there
harsh nova
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqH8JyZJeKY
lookin good, saw bina playing this last week
oblique hinge
yeah its tons of fun
harsh nova
single t7 gear all around also
oblique hinge
u'd need 2 sets of gear tho for the snapshot i think? im not sure how that works
i dont like snapshotting
harsh nova
yeah but u don't really need to gear to gills for the defense swap
ur dodging so little anyways
he's just clobbering uber
oblique hinge
yep
daring pumice
I finally got a LP1 world splitter and slammed melee void mdg on it and slammed my anchor of oblivion with mana and HOLY GOD the dmg
grim fog
Im crit inmune with this stats and 30% damage negation somehow im still getting 1 shoted on 1 K corruption
Others builds dont have that problem
real lion
Hi guys, playing a warpath VK build. is the movement speed + damage weaver slam better? or should i keep this?
grim fog
if you running Vaions Speed
I just slaped a random T6 void taken as Phys headpiece and it worked
runic edge
Hey, i am following a javeline time rot build and I am unable to kill Uberroth. I am only able to get him into the second to last phase. Just wondering if i messed up the build, or its just a skill issue. Thanks
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/
chilly peak
Hey, i am following a javeline time rot build and I am unable to kill Uberroth. ...
You need to save once, to share your build. This is just a link to the planner itself
runic edge
You need to save once, to share your build. This is just a link to the planner i...
oh sorry
crude matrixBOT
hollow skiff
does anyone know about the friend list not showing friends issue?
my friend list is empty when i have a lot of friends.
daring pumice
YESSSS
grim fog
Nice
daring pumice
Last harbinger left
grim fog
Ok Idk if I wanna get Lvs on Warpath or more health
Warpath would be just to have bigger zone
it would be a T5 if anything so just 2 more lvs
waxen nymph
Jesus! 2lp Wings
grim fog
We love Turtle Vlad
waxen nymph
Indeed!
alpine canopy
I remember when 4 LP wings was the rarest item in game 🧑🦳
waxen nymph
Is it not ?
daring pumice
max roll doom chance! pog!
tribal basin
1 Lp is much easier to find than 2 Lp , you either find a 2 Lp or you get incredibly lucky with the Egg
chances are higher that you find one than egging it
grim fog
I grab the 1LP for all
daring pumice
is 3k hp enough for erasing strike?
My ring is 1LP so I'm wondering if i should go for strength for dmg or vitality for more survival
pearl sleet
How can I tell if I am crit capped as ES VK?
I have 16% per sheet
my world slpitter has .5
daring pumice
+1 I wanna know this as well
waxen nymph
Pen and paper (or excel spreadsheet) my friends
waxen nymph
Ok Idk if I wanna get Lvs on Warpath or more health
To answer this I would say, I see 2 possibilities
Garantied t7 Warpath and pray to get %hp or Flat hp
Garantied t7%'hp and pray for t5+Warpath
alpine canopy
Is it not ?
They lowered the LPL on it by a lot, I think in 1.1
waxen nymph
4lp at 115lpl 💀
That number is so big jeee
@daring pumice @pearl sleet if you share a planner of your current character I can help you with calculating your actual crit chance
daring pumice
Alr chief
This is mine
I actually can't believe I made it this far lol
Compared to me charac 4 days ago getting his cheeks clapped in the campaign matriarch fight
crude matrixBOT
pearl sleet
Thx for helping
Still looking for lp2 splitter or shred idol
But I am curious where I should put my symbols points
Crit or ehp
tribal basin
Asorned 2x2 Idols with Block effectiveness exist right ? Its not a bug in the LE tools planner ?
wait , nvm , i have one
they seem to be so rare that i forgot
waxen nymph
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/BigBootyBilla/character/BigBootyBilla
Base Crit > 5%
Added Crit > 6% (Prophet Onslought) + 12% (0.4% WS with 30 Mana Cost ES)
Total Flat Crit > 23 %
Inc Crit > 301%
Total Crit = 23 x (301/100 +1) = 92.23%
Also I see you have Multstrike , I believe you should be using Symbols of Hope
You should have enough mana to make use of infinite Void Well
No ?
waxen nymph
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qkqv0W3o
Base Crit > 5%
Added Crit > 6% (Prophet Onslought) + 15% (0.5% WS with 30 Mana Cost ES)
Total Flat Crit > 26 %
Inc Crit > 233%
Total Crit = 26 x (233/100 +1) = 86.58%
Put the last pts from Symbols in Crit Chance and congrats you have 102.18% Crit Chance
pearl sleet
Base Crit > 5%
Added Crit > 6% (Prophet Onslought) + 15% (0.5% WS with 30 Mana C...
Thx so much!
lament star
how much mana do i need to run x3 echo ES
hallow knoll
dang 2lp is hella nice
lament star
whats your gear like
hazy glacier
1.5k mana
sounds like almost too much, do you have a good source of armor shred on your gear?
made a big difference for me.
Immortal vise + t7 armour shred slam and ubberoth gets quite easy
inland vault
Does its reality mana or joke ?
dense tendon
i dont see how you could get that much
inland vault
Just found YouTube video with that
waxen nymph
Thats going to be a big warpath !!
dense tendon
crude matrixBOT
dense tendon
how do you get it this high without using meme items
steep trail
is it even useful to have that much on a warpath
steady yew
sounds like almost too much, do you have a good source of armor shred on your ge...
immortal ?
nowhere to be seen
waxen nymph
Does its reality mana or joke ?
Do you have a screen of the Warpath ?
hazy glacier
immortal ?
immortal vise? should drop almost every ubberoth kill.
after getting my first, I was able to farm it quite savely
waxen nymph
Or can you share a link to the video
steady yew
sounds like almost too much, do you have a good source of armor shred on your ge...
kinda but what make me die on uber is dumb overlap or last phase he kill me in 0.1s from all shipping dmg
inland vault
steady yew
immortal vise? should drop almost every ubberoth kill.
after getting my first, I...
2.6% to not drop i did not get them
and spent about 8h+ retry no luck to kill uber
dense tendon
there's literally a planner in the description
inland vault
Well its giga screen cleaner warpath
hazy glacier
2.6% to not drop i did not get them
are you rank9 + forgotton knights?
can't actually recall a kill I didn't get them.
first kill is the toughest. I was also close to give up at some point, but will get better
waxen nymph
https://youtu.be/GnpcSAYKHrk?si=S1U5VSctPYG2djeo
Oh no, him ....
steady yew
are you rank9 + forgotton knights?
can't actually recall a kill I didn't get the...
i'm maxed out
inland vault
Oh no, him ....
You know him? Who's that
hazy glacier
i'm maxed out
and we are talking about uberroth kills not normal?
dense tendon
the planner with max rolled items has less mana than the gameplay? huh
steady yew
y
inland vault
the planner with max rolled items has less mana than the gameplay? huh
Probably overcapped t7 🤣
waxen nymph
You know him? Who's that
A member of the community I dont appreciate, lets call it like that
inland vault
I just opened YouTube and got recommended to that video
steady yew
seems quite unlucky then
yep and been bashing my head the past 3 days and died at 16% each time i reached the end of the fight
inland vault
Well, for me still uberroth unkillable after month of playing
steady yew
Well, for me still uberroth unkillable after month of playing
feel you 🥲
waxen nymph
Also he plays offline, so everything he shows should take this into account
lament star
yep and been bashing my head the past 3 days and died at 16% each time i reached...
do you use the blood grasp ?
inland vault
Also he plays offline, so everything he shows should take this into account
Any difference?
Offline and online
steady yew
do you use the blood grasp ?
i tried with and without didn't see a bit diff
steady yew
slam still OS me if i get hit and i still die to pool dmg in last phase with beam or just uber phasing
waxen nymph
You can make yourself a quadra t7 Maxrolled Worldsplitter if you want
steady yew
the phasing dmg is about 2k
lament star
do you have your planner ?
hazy glacier
yep and been bashing my head the past 3 days and died at 16% each time i reached...
your time will come!
can be very frustrating some times
waxen nymph
I am not saying he did, but giving some of our previous conversations I am inclined to believe he did
steady yew
your time will come!
can be very frustrating some times
so far i think i spent 20h bashing my head against him
crude matrixBOT
steady yew
gonna try with uber relics i have one with almost perfect roll but no mana on it still 1.3k mana so
lament star
are your res capped ingame ?
steady yew
what you see is what i have
lament star
bruh
steady yew
but uber don't deal necrotic dmg
waxen nymph
are your res capped ingame ?
steady yew
neither poison
waxen nymph
but uber don't deal necrotic dmg
The big slashes that reduce your Res are necrotic
steady yew
i don't get hit by them
lament star
i mean yes i see that but sometimes it doesnt show it right (not talking about avg) @waxen nymph
steady yew
really it just the last phase dot dmg that kill me
steady yew
beam are dot puddle are dot
lament star
you dont do dmg with frailty stacks
frigid zenith
last phase, after the slam, try to stay at max range
lament star
need to cleanse that to keep up with the leech
frigid zenith
it usually baits him into using the fire dot that cleanses the black puddles
then try to DPS him down before more puddles emerge
lament star
think about symbols of hope
if you have 20stacks of frailty you do so little dps your leech will be lwoer than the dot
its easy to get stacked to 30 if you dont disengage or cleanse
instead of suloron you could go for inevitable btw, imo it's pretty good
frigid zenith
I think it's -10% less leech per stack
so at 10 you're already not leeching anything 💀
dense tendon
it doesnt stop your existing leech ig
i also kinda think it's multiplicative with itself but not sure
dense tendon
that doesnt make any sense
hazy glacier
gonna try with uber relics i have one with almost perfect roll but no mana on it...
I farm ubberoth with 1.1k mana, anything above 1k mana is enough
waxen nymph
Or Efficiency
lament star
mmh i guess i was wrong then
steady yew
I farm ubberoth with 1.1k mana, anything above 1k mana is enough
you do yeah i don't ^^
hazy glacier
you do yeah i don't ^^
what I wanted to say with it, don't tunnelvision on mana, there are other really good stats.
Like I said 200% armor shred on gloves did so much for me
lament star
i think surviving is his first priority
steady yew
what I wanted to say with it, don't tunnelvision on mana, there are other really...
i outphase him already
dense tendon
what does leech rate even do? more leech or just leech faster than over 3 seconds?
lament star
just look for clean spots to stand on while slamming
frigid zenith
I personally flip flopped between anomaly and abyssal echoes, and the latter felt like more DPS
lament star
only after his triple slam (unless u can tank it)
frigid zenith
echoes keeping up 80-100 armor shred worth of stacks was doing more than 5s of anomaly every 12s
waxen nymph
what does leech rate even do? more leech or just leech faster than over 3 second...
Faster
lament star
also with your res, you dont have the luxury to get hit by green waves
steady yew
i wish we had a better death recap like the past 2s
i don't even know what kill me in the end
dense tendon
you can run both anomaly and void cleave/echoes though
steady yew
sometimes the recap state 2 damage from puddle
also healing hand dash is bugged
often it just don't work
you take damage at the beginning and close to the end
uber also like to 360 no scope the green debuff sometimes it start the anim i move away and telegraph hit me by doing a 180
lament star
ultimately i'd switch suloron for inevitable. it would allow you to get other stat than phys res on your idols
arctic loom
you can run both anomaly and void cleave/echoes though
is abyssal echo a skill that you can just use for the passive effect? i havent explored it yet and im thinking of removing the healing hands.
lament star
yeah you just keep circling uber when he starts the animation
inland vault
Leech its defence thing or nah?
lament star
@steady yew i'd advise you to farm tombs too for minor weaver idols with mana/mana+health
dense tendon
is abyssal echo a skill that you can just use for the passive effect? i havent e...
you can passively trigger it with volatile reversal, warpath or void cleave
lament star
and maybe ornate idols from prophecies because they're not that great
crit from symbols is not needed. you get 100% with anomaly (5/5 node) and your gear+mortal cleave
frigid zenith
you can run both anomaly and void cleave/echoes though
yeah, could drop symbols I guess
dense tendon
i think symbols are way better than the orbs if theyre not your only source of essence
lament star
btw why is there no shield bash guide anymore ?
i thought ppl would come up with shield bash with majasan's shield
dense tendon
no guide where
lament star
oh nvm im blind
wooden mountain
Anyone playing abyssal echoes as a main skill?
dense tendon
wtf this exists
pseudo parcel
love the death recap
You got clapped by entangling roots
probably fell and broke your hip
tribal basin
I could vomit in a circle >_<
frigid zenith
wtf this exists
wtf
tribal basin
Forgemaster Might is still bugged
frigid zenith
what's it then, headbash?
tribal basin
its : " Talk to my massive Hand "
lament star
shoulder bash
tribal basin
shoulder bash
Plesioth Hip Check
lament star
we playin american football now
hazy glacier
Anyone playing abyssal echoes as a main skill?
it is in the mix, playing autobomber and clearing trash mostly with abyssal echo and it spraying time rot
steady yew
ultimately i'd switch suloron for inevitable. it would allow you to get other st...
i did nothing change still die to last phase 2nd aoe slam
he never spawn the fire orb
and i need to walk into the puddle
frigid zenith
did he spawn blue orb instead
also for ground of destruction you just have to memorize where it was unfortunately 💀
since it gets covered by the puddle so often
steady yew
also for ground of destruction you just have to memorize where it was unfortunat...
yep
and i was in it
lament star
i did nothing change still die to last phase 2nd aoe slam
ground of destruction is a dot so ofc you gonna get wrecked
u need to position yourself at the edge of the arena
when he does it
lament star
and ground was inside the arena
steady yew
y
steady yew
it's never consistent sometimes it does it right after slam sometimes 15s after
sometimes it don't also
i also had few times 2x ground destructions
in a row
frigid zenith
if he spawn the blue hole instead of red
steady yew
max i got was 16%
frigid zenith
I think you need to try and bait out the blue hole before the phase change
so he use red hole after phase change
pseudo parcel
Bro, should have stayed on Judgement 💀
steady yew
oh it include judgement as well
pseudo parcel
👀
steady yew
did i think 4/5h on judgment
lament star
@frigid zenith oooh interesting i didnt know that, had a few deaths cuz of that
pseudo parcel
You can bait blue / red holes even during last phase by gently disengaged the boss when he sits down
steady yew
banging 10+h the past 3/4 days on it for nothing
lament star
dude optimize your build before giving up
pseudo parcel
between slams and beams
lament star
told you your idols are really lacking
steady yew
at this point it's not gear issue
lament star
well it's always a bit of gear issue
steady yew
i get 80% of the time to last phase
pseudo parcel
You did it on Judgement before, you can do it again
lament star
and my gear is better than yours. weird
steady yew
Mana ?
lament star
1.3
lament star
i run shattered and vise
steady yew
they don't increase the raw dmg
lament star
whats the diff from 200mana
lament star
you run x3 slams ?
lament star
i can keep it up too
steady yew
when at 1.3 i was
lament star
not the x3 but x2 is ok
funny cuz i was asking earlier and ppl told me at 1.5k you can run x3 echo slam
well when i say my gear is better , it's an overral statement. i have overcapped res while having good dmg
tribal basin
I need a math pro here
arctic loom
funny cuz i was asking earlier and ppl told me at 1.5k you can run x3 echo slam
Level 3 Time loop?
tribal basin
someone needs to explain this to me . How can the 124% Increase only be this low
From 90% Phys % to 131 Phys %
lament star
still the dmg make up for it since you hit another 60 mana echo slam
frigid zenith
at 1.4k I'm still having stutters sometimes
steady yew
even i take 3-4min to last phase
3min ish to get to last phase
thought it was quicker ^^
lament star
yes its about right
lament star
someone needs to explain this to me . How can the 124% Increase only be this low...
are you dual wielding ?
steady yew
and i was not that focus on dmg and got hicup
burnt moon
for a 2LP world splitter what would be a good 2nd affix to slam? armour shred?
lament star
for a 2LP world splitter what would be a good 2nd affix to slam? armour shred?
shred > void pen > aps
tribal basin
thats not DW
i noticed this discrepancy today , Forgemaster might seems a bit off
lament star
and i was not that focus on dmg and got hicup
do you fight him on 1 side only
during last phase
steady yew
Well he never move to the right side
lament star
also remember to hit symbols to remove frailty stacks
steady yew
symbols don't clease
lament star
wait
frigid zenith
i noticed this discrepancy today , Forgemaster might seems a bit off
what's the connectin between forgemaster might and DW?
long kindle
Did you post your planner?
lament star
i thought it did
long kindle
Aint no way it takes that long if youre geares up on ES
steady yew
Aint no way it takes that long if youre geares up on ES
?
lament star
oh well symbols doesnt cleanse i lied to myself lol
lament star
and u get less dmg taken for a bit too
steady yew
3s
tribal basin
what's the connectin between forgemaster might and DW?
-20% Damage
lament star
which is not relevant anyway because you want to leech. so no other option than walking in clean spots to recover from frailty
steady yew
or have cleanse on belt
arctic loom
or have cleanse on belt
i was just about to say this
lament star
nah belt is only for 26% hp
steady yew
but need a 2lp belt and to get the slam
arctic loom
that's why hybrid hp + cleanse are BiS for 2LP shattered chains
steady yew
hybrid hp is worst than % health
lament star
get both
arctic loom
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i see
lament star
screw cleanse xD
steady yew
we had discution about it few days ago and t7 health % better than hybrid
lament star
dont need to discuss it, the planner says % is better than hybrid
frigid zenith
-20% Damage
no but you're not dual wielding are you?
you're using forgemaster's might
tribal basin
Hybrid was better before we had this much flat HP everywhere
frigid zenith
so you're 2Handing
arctic loom
screw cleanse xD
same. i cannot wait for a double t7 with cleanse on it. im almost done with the season too anyway. so far sub 50 uberroth is still doable even without cleanse.
tribal basin
no but you're not dual wielding are you?
I use a Two handed Sword
lament star
woah
frigid zenith
which is not dual wielding
lament star
u went for flat health on a lp3
frigid zenith
dual wielding = two one handed sword, one in each hand
lament star
well i guess u had no choice
arctic loom
u went for flat health on a lp3
yupppppp. gonna quit soon so im enjoying all the rares now
lament star
but i wouldnt have slammed
arctic loom
exams coming 😄
lament star
sub 50sec uberroth ?
arctic loom
yup
lament star
man your gear is disgusting
arctic loom
yeah, this is what i love about seasons. you can go negatively crazy with stuff as it's gonna restart anyway
for as long as you meet your personal goals, go crazy
lament star
i think i met my goal alrdy, and that was beating the crap out of uberroth
its a bs fight
arctic loom
he deserves a beating i agree
arctic loom
hahaha
grim fog
To answer this I would say, I see 2 possibilities
Garantied t7 Warpath and pray ...
I woke up, but if I get 2 lvs of Warpath it would just be 30% more area
arctic loom
I wish they could add more boss like uberroth tho. it's kind of boring after defeating him
tribal basin
which is not dual wielding
For what reason would I take Forgemasters might if i would not use a Twohander with a shield ?
dense tendon
I woke up, but if I get 2 lvs of Warpath it would just be 30% more area
can we see your character
lament star
weaver season didnt introduce any new real boss
grim fog
can we see your character
Is Warpath+Smite PLD
arctic loom
weaver season didnt introduce any new real boss
ohhhh really? i did only play 1.0 then quit... so that's a year ago
lament star
i mean some woven echo have new bosses but none are as memorable as aberroth
dense tendon
Is Warpath+Smite PLD
do you not run it like this?
lament star
they all felt like a super rare mob but maybe its cuz we play ES
grim fog
do you not run it like this?
frigid zenith
For what reason would I take Forgemasters might if i would not use a Twohander w...
Bro, no one said anything about you not using a 2H with a shield? The issue is you're misunderstanding what the term "dual wielding" means. Using a twohander with a shield is not dual wielding, so your relic that gives damage while dual wielding obviously won't work.
frigid zenith
2H without a shield, 2H with a shield, 1H with a shield are all not dual wielding
two single handed weapons, one in each hand, is dual wielding
dense tendon
oh +2 from argentus
frigid zenith
(or two 2H weapon, one in each hand, but we don't have that so)
lament star
dual wielding is very specific. easy explanation : wear 2x one handed melee weapon
dense tendon
molten path is actually a good source of shred if you need it i guess
grim fog
oh +2 from argentus
If I had less Mana used for Channel this would have been godtier but
I didnt wanna risk losing the health with leonine
I lost the max roll flat health
icy jay
I'm cooking a forgemaster shieldthrower and i just realized i should stack come dex
grim fog
lament star
I'm cooking a forgemaster shieldthrower and i just realized i should stack come ...
why dex
tribal basin
Bro, no one said anything about you not using a 2H with a shield? The issue is y...
Ohhh , then i misunderstood that for the longest time , thought it would boost it when using a two handed weapon XD
lament star
I'm cooking a forgemaster shieldthrower and i just realized i should stack come ...
oh for javelineer ? (throwing crit chance ?)
lament star
well main hand you could go for the bbc 😄
tribal basin
But the question still stands , how is it then increasing from 90% to 131 % what kind of number magic is behind that ?
lament star
then convert to void
ah shizz bbc is melee stat mainly. only the pen would affect the build
frigid zenith
But the question still stands , how is it then increasing from 90% to 131 % what...
yeah no idea where that comes from, try import it to letools, maybe it shows where it's coming from
lament star
did you previous relic have phys dmg on it ?
tribal basin
yeah no idea where that comes from, try import it to letools, maybe it shows whe...
already did that , its even more whack and nothing adds up
frigid zenith
link us?
tribal basin
crude matrixBOT
tribal basin
planner says +52% Physical damage Unique Mod Relic
but as you coudl see the relic im using is a 124%
lament star
it's weird
tribal basin
Thats what i mean ! My brein Hurts figuring out what the heck is wrong
tribal basin
normall if i had a "Less" thing somewhere i would either put that behind the Base or at the very end of the calculations
lament star
vortex shouldnt give dmg increase unless dual wield
frigid zenith
yeah this is ultra weird
tribal basin
like (300 Flat ( added up ) *0.8) x ( Rest of % increases ) that way the end result will be at 80% of what it would be otherwise
frigid zenith
if you take off both your weapon and shield
does the relic still increase your physical damage
tribal basin
hold up , need to log in again for that
lament star
if you take off both your weapon and shield
i tried dual wielding for real without the shield node with max value and relic only give 52%
frigid zenith
😓
tribal basin
ive gone to the arena
more weirdness
237% to 289% , again 52% that come from "Somewhere"
frigid zenith
💀
tribal basin
So vortex Pennant seems to have an Unlisted 52% increased Phys damage bonus somewhere
frigid zenith
So vortex Pennant seems to have an Unlisted 52% increased Phys damage bonus some...
that kinda seems like what this implies
such a weird thing haha
tribal basin
equiping a shield und unequiping it will also reduce my minion % damage from 111% down to 69%
and my melee damage goes from 244% down to 175% instead of 192.5%
71.7% instead of 80%
frigid zenith
and my melee damage goes from 244% down to 175% instead of 192.5%
this one seems correct
since 244% is the increased phys damage
waxen nymph
Testing ForgeMasterMight ?
frigid zenith
Testing ForgeMasterMight ?
yeah, but there's some really weird stuff. The sentinel WW relic was giving phys damage bonus out of nowhere
waxen nymph
Oo
tribal basin
Testing ForgeMasterMight ?
Yes
lament star
Ye the culprit is the vortex pennant
tribal basin
so getting to 175 sounds right
where do you get the 344 from ?
ahh nvm , there is the 100% base increased
Hmm , so i guess if it shows 244% its actually 344% , means , if it starts at 80% base and every further % increase is also multiplied by 80% , the whole math might start to be correct
need further Math for that
waxen nymph
244% Increase means x3.44
tribal basin
so forgemasters might would instead start at x 0.8 base instead of x1.0 base
well , makes sense , it needs to start with a 1+( modifiers ) because of damage/stat formulas
so .. 111% minion % damage in the window means 211% , if we then say the base is with a shield x0.8 and we also reeduce the 111% by 20% we get to 1.688 aka .. 69%
huh .. i guess we figured it out
That means every Increas in damage starts at 0.8 and every Increase will indeed also only be added as 80% its value
Thats such a Spaghetti Math Mess
dense tendon
that 0.8 is already factored in
tribal basin
i just didnt knew that the stats in the character window if the show 0% actualyl already mean 100% where everything else is added onto
But here is the thing , i say it is spaghetti because if you take the Flat/Base damage of stuff and already apply 80% to it , you can safe on every other step
tribal basin
Well at least we found ou that Vortex Penant has a secret 52% Increased Phys damage
tribal basin
Its not on the card
halcyon granite
Hello guys! If anyone has a good filter for ES i would really appreciate it.. cant find any good ones for endgame because i have no idea what the build really needs and every filter shows everything almost..
vast crypt
LP1 worldsplitter or T6 Void dmg Clotho needle?
And what should i affix lock for the World splitter as VK warpath
pine tree
guess im going time rot.....
dense tendon
And what should i affix lock for the World splitter as VK warpath
you need melee crit to use an axe basically
vast crypt
hmm wonder do i have a T7 Melee crit.
grim fog
BIG UPGRADE DOUBLE T7
steady yew
hmm i need like 5+ times what i get on 1k
i spend 100k in 5min and it take me 30 ish minute to get that amount
steady yew
xD
frigid zenith
bruh my judgment idle tooltip higher than my ES 😄
bold heron
Im running a warpath build. Can you help me decide which weapon is best?
frigid zenith
probably left just because it has some extra flat
flint inlet
getting good exalts is the real struggle.
harsh nova
truth
also i was today days old when i found out you can just right click items in ur inventory and they'll go into egg smh, or at least forgot from last season lol
young lynx
i usually put stuff from stash, and in most cases you wear right clicked item, so its easier to drag, than to remember each interraction
only a big problem with new "reroll LP" box
willow loom
what would you guys slam for 2 lp sulorons? I was thinking of T7 mov speed but then idk if i should go for str or vita
for ES
frigid zenith
I'd do vita personally
vast crypt
i have a LP3 Anguish of Life.... terrible stat rolls but NO GOOD RINGS...
willow loom
vita it is then i think
arctic loom
Finally! Turtle giving good rolls
waxen nymph
This is not the turtle
arctic loom
oh i mean strife!
waxen nymph
The big turtle of Strife? 
cerulean sorrel
do i have to cast smite on bar for the proc renouncement passive on vk tree ?
dense tendon
hitting that roll after slamming is a little bit lucky huh
waxen nymph
do i have to cast smite on bar for the proc renouncement passive on vk tree ?
You mean the Void beams?
cerulean sorrel
You mean the Void beams?
yes
arctic loom
hitting that roll after slamming is a little bit lucky huh
yeah i panicked as i didnt know that the gauntlet rerolls (divines) the slammed affixes too T_T
marsh belfry
I cant post pictures in CoF but Il ask here you dont mind this is not RING only right
Caus it says Jewelry
alright ty Though so just wanted to be sure
dense tendon
this game could use like 200 more icons tbh
marsh belfry
On another note slotted in 3 of these bad boys and my dmg went up considerable xD
marsh belfry
oke ty il skip these caus I looking for good ring inprint
I blew all my T7/T6s and still have not found a double T7
dense tendon
you should do like a billion conquered towers instead
marsh belfry
Found some sick items there yea but guess I am unlucky on the rings
do I skip them if I dont find a ring or do I do them all
Banish
steep egret
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BxM463do
Any build tips I am losing survivability at 309c
crude matrixBOT
waxen nymph
I see non capped endurance, 2.3k hp
And a bit too much res
108 crit Avoidance and 97 reduced crit
You only need one
cerulean sorrel
ok guys i swapped class to sentinel now i'm looking for new build
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bg4PzZYo
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olrxmzqQ
which one is better on high corruption
harsh nova
nemesis provides
steep egret
108 crit Avoidance and 97 reduced crit
Thanks. Didn't know you needed just one. Thought they stacked.
tribal basin
I would suggest to do whatever Lizard_IRL did , the great Tale of CHAD , its said he has never seen a Boss Mechanic
waxen nymph
Thanks. Didn't know you needed just one. Thought they stacked.
One reduce the dmg you take on crit
The other one make the crit not crit
waxen nymph
ok guys i swapped class to sentinel now i'm looking for new build
https://www.la...
I tend to trust Cursedboy more than Aarpg
Also if you want to play Shield Throw
Go check pinchinloaf
tribal basin
i wonder if Lizard updated his Shield Bash Forge guard 🤔
steady yew
how do you deal to last phase 2nd big slam into suck beam ?
it always make me go next side into him insta cast suck beam
is this hp dependent ?
vale lantern
not hp dependent
steady yew
then why did he instant cast it rn after the aoe slam
happenened multiple time
Same goes with him spitting fire/ice i often get the fire vortex + this at the same time
vale lantern
because they're off cooldown?
pine granite
boss has patterns, like some abilities are only usable at certain phases + trigger if you are certain distance away + if they are off CD
but its not 100% always follow exact same list, there is some randomness, you can bait them tho if you know the pattern.
steady yew
but its not 100% always follow exact same list, there is some randomness, you ca...
i mean big aoe slam -> you run from the spreading doom and he channel the beam at the same time how is that playable ?
on last phase where he stand at one side and me at the other the aoe cover 90% of the space
vale lantern
i mean big aoe slam -> you run from the spreading doom and he channel the beam a...
I mean it is because people kill it with zdps builds who have to deal with it
frigid zenith
he normally doesn't cast it at the same time
usually after slam he'd either cast the fire/ice hole or rush to you, depending on your distance
pine granite
i mean big aoe slam -> you run from the spreading doom and he channel the beam a...
Cut the corner, to the side, well depends on yoru arena but if its clean(remotely), yo ucan do it with enough mvoespeed or reaction, suck doesnt damage right away, only does real dmg when he fixes it(and its tiem to dodge)
step 1
step 2
step 3 dodge the big boom laser of death follow up but its trivial
steady yew
it's more like that and he's sucking before i can even react -> almost Os
steady yew
I mean it is because people kill it with zdps builds who have to deal with it
? you mean i need more dps ?
or the other way around
hollow veldt
Hello guys good exalted mana glove are rare ? I don’t drop any
steady yew
Hello guys good exalted mana glove are rare ? I don’t drop any
are you cof? level ? corruption ?
hollow veldt
Cof lvl 94 200 corrupt
vale lantern
? you mean i need more dps ?
? it means people have killed it with z(zero) dps builds so they have long final phases so they have to deal with bad overlaps
aka it is playable
hollow veldt
My gear isn’t that good been days trying upgrade but I don’t drop or I don’t know wich echo to farm I’m still new on the game
steady yew
Cof lvl 94 200 corrupt
more corruption and cof lvl make you drop a lot of stuff
the in between low -> medium gear can be tough
hollow veldt
Yes I know for corrupt but I can’t get higher i need better gear
hollow veldt
I get one shored when we play at 2 on 200 corrupt
steady yew
rez capped ?
steady yew
i was doing handmade build and i got easily to 600 corruption
hollow veldt
That’s why I need good gloves
steady yew
highly depend on what build you wanna play
if you try to play ES without world splitter
hollow veldt
I’m playing Es
steady yew
w8 nihilis is 300 corruption minimum
send you planner also prophecy can solve you problem
i would advise you to run another build until you can the piece your missing
i was playing smite paly and i swapped latter on to es because i had all the right piece for it
hollow veldt
Well before I was merchand guild I had good mana gloves but then I switched back and couldn’t use them
How do I send my planner
steady yew
lastepoch tools
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Alkaladur/character/Alkaladin replace Alkaladur by your account name and Alkaladin by your character
steady yew
uuf
you need to cap physical rez
remove those boots until you get the physical blessing
would highly explain the os
you also need the lagoon mana blessing not the one you have that easily 70+ mana depending on your roll
In your ES skill remove a point in Time loop you need 2x + the mana you have rn to sustain it
hollow veldt
Okay ill get it yeah I forgot some blessing
I was too focused on farming but nothing drops sadly
steady yew
you need to use prophecies as cof
spend favor = more reputation until rank max it will increase your drop rate by a lot
also in your weaver tree your imprint will never drop
it don't work on boss specific drop
steady yew
yeah i learned it too the hard way ^^
hollow veldt
But I got the armor from the print lion heart
steady yew
Titan heart is not from a specific mob
world splitter, siphon are from Harbringer and shade
hollow veldt
Ok yeah I see not like nhilis or others that’s why I didn’t drop the ring xdd
hollow veldt
Yes I know only armor is world drop right
steady yew
from your gear yes and your relic
marsh belfry
I should prob not try to reroll this any more in the gauntlet right
Prob wont come out any better
The one I currently have has armor shred but my WS also has shred so this is the comparison
marsh belfry
Idk what I did exaltly anymore
steady yew
any alternative for time rot ring ?
marsh belfry
dont really know that If I remember correclty it uses red rings right?
steady yew
yeah
thorny spoke
Yeah red rings with dex are ideal.
steady yew
can't find the motivation to regrind red ring
marsh belfry
I could be wrong but these are used also ?
thorny spoke
If you're looking to one-shot things, LP2 Julra Stardial.
steady yew
oh yeah
can't bother farming red ring i have 1 imprinted for the past 2 weeks none dropped and took me over 800k favor to get one
ty turtle from yesterday ^^'
i have like 5 2lp also
thorny spoke
Yeah use that.
Lol LP3. For when you want to double the defensive suffix too.
For 4 seconds you'll have more 100 more HP.
solid pine
For a Judgement Pally, which of the two swords is best (in the offchance that the two prefixes slam on a 2 LP Graver)
steady yew
2nd for 2 lp , first for 3lp i would say
cause of the fire pen
but assuming you succeed the slam
solid pine
i have a 3lp graver sitting in the stash as I am waiting for a better exalt to slam
marsh belfry
waiting is boring
solid pine
been farming imprints for days now 😦
marsh belfry
slam the first one on the 3 LP
steady yew
waiting is boring
this
marsh belfry
xD
steady yew
3lp ain't rare if i recall
steady yew
I need to get over the Uber Abby hump
?
solid pine
having a hard time killin uber.. so fixing my gear a bit.. I am sitting on a 3lp midnight ring, majasa and graver
waiting for good exalts to slam
marsh belfry
Oh btw for Judgement idk if you following the maxroll build, I changed that I had cleanse when the symbol errupted and it h elped alot with dps
solid pine
marsh belfry
caus when u hugging eachother in a corner I had high stacks of les dmg
steady yew
having a hard time killin uber.. so fixing my gear a bit.. I am sitting on a 3l...
i killed him with way less gear
and i was facetanking
solid pine
oh wait.. sorry
steady yew
well he sent default
solid pine
crude matrixBOT
solid pine
sorry bout that
solid pine
Oh btw for Judgement idk if you following the maxroll build, I changed that I ha...
ya I saw that thanks! well done btw.. but still I suck and am haivng a hard time lol
solid pine
you can def kill him
definitely a skill issue with me.. old / slow reaction ahha
marsh belfry
Im sure u can tank triple slam with that
solid pine
weird.. I am not able to. I was thinking i nee dmore HP
steady yew
i'm talking the run aoe
marsh belfry
Oh that, yea just run xD
solid pine
I am able to tank the triple slam, yes
steady yew
Oh that, yea just run xD
you can with 2x red ring and vise
steady yew
I am able to tank the triple slam, yes
then you can mostly kill him will take time tho
solid pine
will continue to try.. lot going on in the screen and I try and get out of the bad stuff, but will continue to grind
steady yew
i killed him without orian eyes and with 1lp gear
solid pine
I can get it to like 25 % a couple of times and one I died to the last phase
solid pine
i killed him without orian eyes and with 1lp gear
nice.. probably something I am doing very wrong lol
steady yew
I can get it to like 25 % a couple of times and one I died to the last phase
i'm bashing my head against it for more than 10h now can't seem to reclear with my ES
placement is key on judgement
solid pine
placement is key on judgement
oh wow .. I was about to respec ES thinking it would be easier.. I suppose I stay J.Pally lol
steady yew
yep
i just insta die if i get hit by slams or overlap
and last phase you can't tank at all
so you die instantly on any mistake
but ES or time rot is easier if you have high dps
higher dps meaning less things to dodge etc
solid pine
from my planner..anything I can change to help? I assume more HP?
solid pine
is my block effectiveness ok?
solid pine
lol.. you mustve used a cheat code haha..howwww lol
I have to fart around with it a bit more.. ive tried maybe 20 times.. I am sure a few tweaks will help
solid pine
dont I need 180 attributes for the RR thjough?
marsh belfry
20 times aint much tho
steady yew
red ring give 25 if max rolled
marsh belfry
Just keep practising
steady yew
yeah i think including reclear try i spent 20+h
solid pine
ok cool.. will keep at it.. thank you gents!
steady yew
the fight ain't easy to figure out
if you play something else might be easier to understand the pattern
uber don't like melee build a lot
it's easier to see what's coming as es since you stand far away compare to judgement and his pattern is easier to read
thorny spoke
I thought judgment pally has an easy time. I've never tried. Obv gear dependent.
Tbh, I think Erasing Strike has a very fair and ethical path to uber Abby.
Reasonably difficult but you have all the tools.
You can do it undergeared if skilled, can wait till youreovergeared if underskilled.
The fight is perfectly balanced for ES VK. Nothing is trivialized but nothing is out of reach.
solid pine
but assuming you succeed the slam
slam suceeded..but did not increase damage much.. up like 2k or something
my 3LP shield slam failed 😦
dense tendon
dont you have like a billion penetration anyway
marsh belfry
Didnt gain much pen tho
the rolls on the weapon itself are low compared to your old one
But upgrade is upgrade thats good
solid pine
ya.. hoping for a failed nemesis 3 affix legendary I can use to woven better stats
steady yew
You don’t need multiple exalt to try uber gz on the 3lp tho
harsh nova
3lp feels kinda whack now that we can reroll 2lps
lots of cases a high roll 2lp > average 3lp
steady yew
3lp feels kinda whack now that we can reroll 2lps
You need 2lp to reroll 2lp so
marsh belfry
Yep 2LP good roll is super hard to upgrade with 3
harsh nova
but 3lp doesn't really have that option, you could put 100 items in nemesis and maybe get 1 of them with a 3 affix if u were super lucky
thorny spoke
Depending on the item, double legendary can be bought for cheap on Bazaar.
I've been rerolling CoF items using MG-purchased fodder.
harsh nova
takes whatever tag from the exalt you slammed then?
steady yew
Depending on the item, double legendary can be bought for cheap on Bazaar.
I've...
Well then you can’t swap to cof after
alpine canopy
Well then you can’t swap to cof after
The point is that the sacrificial altar doesn't impose faction restrictions on the items you use
turbid dome
Wew all above avg
👀
thorny spoke
Well then you can’t swap to cof after
Different characters can be different factions
lament star
@steady yew beat him yet ?
i just beat him without devouring orb lol
no wonder i lacked mana
waxen nymph
which class uses uncapped ele again ?
It is in Paladin tree indeed
lament star
is it only pala ?
isnt there a unique that use uncapped res (except null portent)
nvm i forgot i could search that in letools
waxen nymph
Its one of the 1st 3 nodes, so everyone can grab it
That Storm Armor for Mana Regen
lament star
do these impact minor weaver appearance rate?
i think i have my answer. i feel so dumb using the other one "small idol"
steady yew
<@175533362587500544> beat him yet ?
no
cerulean sorrel
Electrify Javadin literally broken
steady yew
Different characters can be different factions
what i meant was the gear will be tag to a certain faction cof or mg depend on what you're doing and won't be able to equip it
thorny spoke
what i meant was the gear will be tag to a certain faction cof or mg depend on w...
And Im saying specifically the sacrificial altar does not exhibit this behavior?
The gauntlet of strife let's you sacrifice MG items to non-tagged or CoF.
steady yew
i see
wooden mountain
Electrify Javadin literally broken
how so?
solar tiger
What sort of gear should I be aiming for before attempting Uberoth as Shield Bash FG? Finally hit 500 corruption but I'm thinking I'll probably get rolled if I try it now.
young lynx
just dont get oneshot
lament star
are you doing shield bash with the hammer or the monument axe ?
crude matrixBOT
lament star
so with hammer i think you need to facetank cuz youre a turtle 😄
solar tiger
I have a better horns to slam with actual T7 block eff I just need to get a gauntlet drop so I can re-roll it first.
solar tiger
Yeah I know Aberoth can't be stunned the way other bosses can be. I'm able to tank most things in echoes and bosses, only things that killed me in Fading Brink were the Gaspar harbinger beams and the Hereot beam bc you can't attack during it.
lament star
you'll get rolled 100%
solar tiger
Yeah cool, ty. I shall not waste my one echo yet.
lament star
well he has block so he can maybe survive triple slam but the dots will slaughter him
you'll really need cleanse on belt
young lynx
echo will not disappear, and its easily farmable
solar tiger
Well it'll disappear if you reset the timeline
And since I'm still very comfortable in regular echoes I'm gonna keep upping corruption
young lynx
but you will lose. i mean, I am not sure your build can kill regular abberoth
solar tiger
you'll really need cleanse on belt
Shade has not been nice to me, I have a bunch of shattered chains to turtle when I get a chance.
solar tiger
I do about as much damage as my spellblade when I did regular except I'm not made of wet paper so regular won't be me constantly praying I don't get one-shot.
young lynx
ironically, if you are good at dodging regular one, it might be beneficial, when you have to dodge uber. i kill regular by facetanking, so I have no expirience dodging him
easy as in 1/200
lament star
last phase you have to tank the dots while dodging the slams
young lynx
or easy as in "I got one on first try"
young lynx
a bit noisy, but its fine
solar tiger
LP3 is 1/287 but that's a hell of a lot more reasonable than Horns.
lament star
i mean its very reasonable since it's target farmable
solar tiger
I think you might need to be max weaver rank to buy the echo, I can't buy it yet unfortunately
young lynx
it drops from regular abberoth
tribal basin
i have 746% increased stun chance , at one point i will be able to permastun everything
steady yew
last phase you have to tank the dots while dodging the slams
there's no dot beside puddle and beam but as long as you don't stand in it you can't take dmg
lament star
but thats not really possible is it ? eventually you'll swim in it
and being slow with shield bash and the hammer, you dont want to walk 80% of the time to find a clean spot
steady yew
ty nemesis i guess ...
steady yew
yeah but time rot can use them
judgement too
i have it imprinted for 2 weeks first that i got
dense tendon
can you actually keep enough stacks of doom up as a horizon shield basher to make shattered chains worth using
steady yew
but was trying uber so not much farming
lament star
can you actually keep enough stacks of doom up as a horizon shield basher to mak...
yes you can
devouring orb/HH/bash you have 3 skills hitting the mob
lament star
oh thats sad
lofty zephyr
Wanna kill Uber, however I am not tanky enough. Currently cruising at c860. Anything I can change compared to current setup?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AvJy0yWA
crude matrixBOT
lament star
did u go for melee void/aps ?
leonine helmet for massive armor boost/and reduce crit
waxen nymph
Wanna kill Uber, however I am not tanky enough. Currently cruising at c860. Anyt...
Crit Mitigation and Cleanse
lament star
@waxen nymph is cleanse a must ?
i find it hard to justify cleanse over hp on belt
and farming chains might take a long time if rng is bad
turbid dome
i find it hard to justify cleanse over hp on belt
Can’t do damage or survive if your covered in uber void boi’s debuffs
A 2lp belt you put %increased health and the cleanse thing on would be very good
lament star
yeah i mean it doable without cleanse. harder sure but doable
turbid dome
Yea
lament star
positioning is more important but ES has screen aoe so we gucci
lofty zephyr
Thanks for the tips. So Better gloves, helmet and a 2lp belt 😛
simple reef
i find it hard to justify cleanse over hp on belt
hp is better than cleanse
cleanse is just a good prefix to have on your exalt base so you can't completely brick your slam but it's not ideal
feels nice to have though for sure
lament star
mmmmm i just slam t7/t6 vit/str on suloron
brings me to 164 total attr
red ring instead of flames ? 🤔
vale lantern
no
daring pumice
flat health vs % health on bekt which is better?
cant seem to drop hybrid health to save my life
pseudo parcel
%
turbid dome
flat health vs % health on bekt which is better?
% beats hybrid and both beat flat
solar tiger
Hybrid is specifically quite a bit rarer than either of the individuals
