my new mapping boots. feels so nice
#🔱┃sentinel
arctic loom
tardy mirage
lol
arctic loom
2500 corr should be easier now
tardy mirage
was it nemesis?
arctic loom
nope. slam.
arctic loom
nah. i need survival. im happy at 152 movement speed
arctic wave
wow immortal vise is so strong
tardy mirage
oh lel
arctic loom
2500 corr sometimes gets you 1 hit
arctic wave
without it its some insane dark souls nonsense
arctic loom
i can tank all the uberroth mechanics now at 3.5k hp
grats m8
the vise is kind of mandatory. but we'll need to finish uberroth without it the first time
unless you're on MG
arctic wave
yeah tried cof on sentinel, the first time beating him without vise was not a fun experience
arctic loom
indeed
hybrid turtle
For my judgement pally, getting orians before my first kill was what gave me the edge to nab him
jolly arch
does corruption have any effect on prophecies? or can i farm them in story stages for annoying ones like matrons
copper hawk
Anyone have a link to volca's ES build (or a good ES build) that i can follow thats on the actual LE planner? i may be insane but i can only see his build guide
rare umbra
How can I compute whether % incr damage T7 or penetration T7 will be better dps?
do monsters have any res to start with?
random thorn
3lp shadow beacon or 2lp world splitter, hmm
dusk sequoia
does corruption have any effect on prophecies? or can i farm them in story stage...
Some require a specific minimum amount of corruption but other than that, not really
turbid dome
do monsters have any res to start with?
monsters have 0 resistance, so pen is just %more damage
rare umbra
monsters have 0 resistance, so pen is just %more damage
shred and pen just work additively right?
just that shred has a cap?
turbid dome
think so
fickle mist
anyone have any experience with the hammer throw bleed paladin build? I have a before and after for changes I made to someone else's build, if anyone could tell me if my changes are worth making then that would be great..
before: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bjep9x5Q
after: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BG5WwzdA
vale lantern
2500 corr sometimes gets you 1 hit
if you're giving up movement speed it means your trying to farm 2 high corr. the benefit to higher corr is minor much better to just farm 2k faster than 2500 slower.
rare umbra
what corruption/difficulty level should I be farming generally? I'm at a level where surving feels pretty comfy but nemeses or champions sometimes take 4-7 seconds to kill. Should I turn it down a bit or is that fine?
vale lantern
normal mono maps should take about a minute, mono+cem maps should take about 2 minutes reweaving or trove farming should take 3-4 minutes since you full clear those maps.
forest basin
yeah you got to set up the 10 by 10 block and farm 100 uberoths to get some juicy 2lp shattered worlds
arctic wave
100 
i just beat normal uberroth, it takes like 4-6 min per attempt
probably need to gear a lot harder to make this efficient
dim ermine
Time rot java so satisfying to mapping.. compare with ES / Judgement due to able to throw java in range , looking fwd to further min max this build
arctic loom
if you're giving up movement speed it means your trying to farm 2 high corr. th...
no worries. i can finish 2500 fast. imma stay here
vale lantern
no worries. i can finish 2500 fast. imma stay here
Never told you to change.
rare umbra
sorry dumb question: abyssal echo will apply abyssal decay even without echoing right
like if I stand in 20 mobs and they're all in range then they all get the debuff
even though it only "echoes" X times
the echo just propagates further?
quiet hearth
who pinged me like 3hrs ago? how dare you
inland vault
Hi , what's my next step to upgrade? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A2xj8ylB
crude matrixBOT
cobalt blade
i just beat normal uberroth, it takes like 4-6 min per attempt
Wait.. if you can clear uberroth with a record of 4 - 6 mins on normal abby. Maybe i can too
arctic wave
Wait.. if you can clear uberroth with a record of 4 - 6 mins on normal abby. May...
It’s 4-6 min with immortal vise where I can freely dps with no fear of random one shots
It took me like 8 minutes without the uniques
cobalt blade
Ahh.. i can place the woven echo but afraid i cant clear it and reset the web someday later :P
arctic wave
If you’re farming collapsing horizon for world splitter the echo drops pretty often
so it’s not entirely a waste to place it and just limit test or learn the moves
rare umbra
holy shit we did it
full crow
doing enhanced monos. is erasing or warpath a better build? im presently wunning a hybrid of both. void cleave, erasing strike, warpath, devouring orb and rive. not sure what best build for this is. see both builds on youtube but not sure which to go
arctic wave
Warpath farming looks very fast and fun
But both seem to easily zoom and clear content
ES seems to have a much higher corruption ceiling
desert lodge
warpath is super fun. it has a node that increases radius and damage the longer you channel it, so if you can get a fat mana pool it gets crazy
full crow
looks like that prob was last season. my wp is fairly small
arctic wave
It still works
dense tendon
definitely doesnt work on the shrine
full crow
how do you get the area that large? unique item? already have skills that increase area by 40%
tardy mirage
how do you get the area that large? unique item? already have skills that increa...
passive on the tree + mana well in void knights
turbid dome
Warriors fury node
tardy mirage
20% area boost per second channeling but also like 5 mana increase per second
tardy mirage
for bossing you can just go full 5/5 for ramp up ... but its annoying
desert lodge
there's two nodes to decrease channel cost, and affixes to do it
turbid dome
there's two nodes to decrease channel cost, and affixes to do it
Those only help so much vs +4 channel cost added everyone second per point in warriors fury (you will run out of mana)
The T7 helmet affix is basically needed tho
arctic loom
if you can farm omnis as easy as farming nihilis, would you consider it BiS for ES VK?
turbid dome
Omnis is good for the sheer amount of resistances it gives
Unfortunately sentinel gets like the most resistances from existing
Not bad tho
cobalt blade
Engiiiii
turbid dome
Wiiiiiiicked
cobalt blade
How to ubby with non meta build
turbid dome
Have enough not die to kill him before he kills you
tardy mirage
Those only help so much vs +4 channel cost added everyone second per point in wa...
it does scale that channel cost down tho ... 50% means +4 becomes +2 per sec XD
turbid dome
Also laugh last trick
turbid dome
it does scale that channel cost down tho ... 50% means +4 becomes +2 per sec XD
Yes that’s why the T7 channel cost thing is still really good
arctic loom
i find the chance to shred and crit chance capping help a lot.
add in crit dmg multi too
tardy mirage
Yes that’s why the T7 channel cost thing is still really good
wish mage had that uwu
turbid dome
Unfortunately infinite scaling channel cost = your gonna run out of mana unless you play around void well
cobalt blade
Also laugh last trick
20% kill threshold?
turbid dome
20% kill threshold?
Yea
tardy mirage
primalist channeling is usually with rage so you just leech rage back while you channel
but mage is oof
dissentigrate
turbid dome
Pure lightning dissentigrate goes brrr
tardy mirage
not counting when you go mana stacker and make its cost 0
turbid dome
turbid dome
Yea
dense tendon
😠
desert lodge
disintegrate makes you sit in place to charge it up, not great
turbid dome
I have innate 20% from smelter
turbid dome
disintegrate makes you sit in place to charge it up, not great
Yeah that’s the fatal flaw to most channeling skills
tardy mirage
disintegrate makes you sit in place to charge it up, not great
to be fair lucomancy lets you start in t3 channel most of the time
vale lantern
So I could havoc to try and get the proper t7s (ms/vit) 1-20 fp so 6/20 rolls eat all the fp or i could reroll the range 1/15 rolls eat all the fp
desert lodge
one of my first builds in last epoch was disintegrate and eventually i said F this and respecced because of the channeling
tardy mirage
gives you like 2 seconds of wiggle room to just get back into t3 beam
vale lantern
I think I just reroll the range and creation
cobalt blade
Yeah that’s the fatal flaw to most channeling skills
Fatal to my smelter but i try to make it max charge 1s or less with aoe stat
dense tendon
let's be honest you probably drop to 26 ms and 0 fp here
desert lodge
gives you like 2 seconds of wiggle room to just get back into t3 beam
that's true but if you need to move around constantly it's still not great
tardy mirage
ye
vale lantern
let's be honest you probably drop to 26 ms and 0 fp here
math says otherwise
tardy mirage
i want a channel conversion that turns dissentigrate into that runic invocation that spins the 3 beams
xD
and maybe move too uwu
cobalt blade
Make smelter moves 
desert lodge
i tried Smelter once and did not like it at all
it's another case of being frozen in place for too long
tardy mirage
Make smelter moves <:kappa:570776921554681905>
least they solved focus lel
cobalt blade
I make exiled mage spawn and instantly say he got not enough mana and poofed
But thats it
tardy mirage
lol
desert lodge
the area it hits is way too small for charging up that long
turbid dome
Once again my arpg balancing idea of just make underperforming melee have big numbers would work
desert lodge
didn't know about the nova node, maybe it wasn't there when i last tried
tardy mirage
Once again my arpg balancing idea of just make underperforming melee have big nu...
i mean
thats litterally the idea behind erasing strikes entire existence
dense tendon
erasing strike hitting the entire screen = melee
turbid dome
Yeah and it’s not really balanced around you infinite bonking with it
vale lantern
LETS GO I HIT THAT
cobalt blade
erasing strike hitting the entire screen = melee
Warrior's Fury 5/5 with no mana issue = melee
vale lantern
3 best rolls
turbid dome
LETS GO I HIT THAT
Got damn
dense tendon
5/5 no mana issue damn you must have 6k mana
turbid dome
Simply trigger void well on cooldown
arctic loom
LETS GO I HIT THAT
how much MS you got when you're on darkstride?
nice slam btw congrats
vale lantern
180
is what i replaced sucks that I couldn't get t7 vit on the lp3s but risking losing the t7 ms was not worth it
tardy mirage
Yeah and it’s not really balanced around you infinite bonking with it
just please dont nerf mana well sadge
vale lantern
nearly 5700 hp now actually cracked
guess i can take more life out of the vk tree now and just get more dps
turbid dome
just please dont nerf mana well sadge
It’s the only scalable mana recovery in the game
spiral quail
things don't need to be "balanced" they just need to be fun
a melee skill that kills everything on that side of the screen if you build into it properly? that's fun
desert lodge
some balance is necessary, otherwise you get Ubberoth
spiral quail
uberroth is perfect
it's hard af if you don't out scale it
it's easy af if you theory craft hard enough
literally perfect
desert lodge
yeah ok
spiral quail
uberroth progression was the most fun i had in a game in a while
turbid dome
Let’s ignore the funny paladin and falconer build in regards to that
spiral quail
and now i've gotten so good at it that it takes 1m 10s
turbid dome
Noice
spiral quail
first kill took 300+ tries
got one shot by everything
learned the entire game on how defenses and damage worked
this is my first season
if you crying about uberroth, you just crying to cry
it's a great end game boss
dense tendon
nah i prefer losing my 10 divine fragments, dying and then never trying that boss again
that's real progression
tardy mirage
It’s the only scalable mana recovery in the game
i mean ... focus is too technically but its more janky
more mana you dont have = more regen ... which means indirectly more max mana = more regen
turbid dome
i mean ... focus is too technically but its more janky
Yeah but then your using focus for mana regen
vale lantern
some balance is necessary, otherwise you get Ubberoth
uber ab is balanced though?
waxen nymph
But not the skill you use
desert lodge
uber ab is balanced though?
if you use a build that can kill him fast, then yes, he is balanced. if you use a home grown build and need to slam your head against him for hours, then i disagree that he's balanced
vale lantern
if you use a build that can kill him fast, then yes, he is balanced. if you use ...
No that's not how balance works if you play a build that is designed poorly that's not a boss being overtuned it's your homebrew being bad. There are plenty of homebrews that kill him quickly and there are ones that take forever because they either built around an ability that either isn't very strong or the way they built the character scaled the ability poorly.
if you play a zdps character expect the boss to take forever welcome to class balance and building a character which is entirely separate to boss balance.
vale lantern
because you have no argument you're just wrong
I saw a jav paladin homebrew kill it, took 12 minutes man did 0 dps but he built that character so he could just stand in literally everything uber ab couldn't kill it
lol
desert lodge
vale lantern
Yeah I can read feel free to walk away anytime.
vale lantern
Saying you're wrong isn't anger it's an opinion
umbral granite
I swear this game is messing with me. Started farming fall of empire for at least an LP1 anchor for my build, i just bought the game a few days ago and had to check drop rates of stuff. 45% chance, im in 350ish corruption, and the boost from collasping horisons should be enough to get around there right? I didnt check wall of nothing drop chance because why would I?
I am almost 20 bosses deep and have dropped one singular non lp anchor. Its a very nice roll, but if egg doesnt hit im gonna be a little miffed
But i didnt check wall of nothing drop chance because why would i? they seem pretty common, i mean ive gotten one pretty much every run and am leaving them on the ground at this point. Nope they're a lower drop chance
dusk sequoia
But i didnt check wall of nothing drop chance because why would i? they seem pre...
Guess you're lucky to get the lower drop rate item then x3
random thorn
I swear this game is messing with me. Started farming fall of empire for at leas...
45% is at 1000 corruption iirc
zinc tangle
just take them and roll them for a miracle 2-3lp
umbral granite
45% is at 1000 corruption iirc
what does that translate to in raw %inc rarity? Because im getting around 220% inc rarity on the woven horizon things on top of 350ish corruption
random thorn
what does that translate to in raw %inc rarity? Because im getting around 220% i...
~1100
zinc tangle
btw if anybody has done the falconeer build pls look at the rogue coment section to help me from there(thx)
bold heron
Hi,
Im following the maxroll Sentinel leveling guide. It says to add passive points to the passive skill “Heaven's Bulwark” (you have additional spell damage while you have a shield equipped). Then it recommends me to use skill “Javelin”. But Javelin does not have spell as a scaling tag. It’s physical and throwing.
So Javelin does not benefit from “Heaven's Bulwark”? Or what am I missing?
dense tendon
holy trail is a spell
bold heron
Okey thanks. So its the holy trail that is doing the damage and not the actual javelin throw?
zinc tangle
yep as you thrown the javeling but the dot effect if the fire does most of the damage
throw ,shield rush, throw ,rush and if u encounter a harder enemy u use your holy aura and u should be ok usually
bold heron
Great, thanks!
random thorn
is the ideal order of es world splitter imprints, flat void > void pen > shred/atk speed?
or is crit multi there somewhere
next shuttle
hey, what is the point of having high armor shred? like is 100% not enough?
desert lodge
100% applies 1 stack. if your build focuses on hits, you want 50-100. 200% will apply 2 stacks and so on
next shuttle
i play ES, what should be the ideal % of armor shred to get?
desert lodge
lots of ES players in here, someone will chime in
ornate kiln
Around 150% +
Also @vale lantern do u consider stacking vit on ES reasonable trade for health affixes etc to gain dps?
next shuttle
my only armor shred is with my amulet with 104% and it enables me to finish uber in 2:10 but, I keep saying people in global chat to add more
ornate kiln
iim kinda skeptical about vitality i dont find 1% per 3 valuable
vale lantern
Also <@152781595747549184> do u consider stacking vit on ES reasonable trade fo...
yeah vit is crazy strong
ornate kiln
i just cant seem to find enough slots for it, only place could be boots
2/2 mana helmet
I could go apostate amulet but -2 skill points is meh
I have 3lp of that
I could go mana crit shred
i was even thinking i could give up the belt and build around brews with 2 red rings
And core of the mountain ES + mana
Then its like 10 chest 10 rings 16 boots 12 belt and 7amulet
Vitality
Id have around 80-90 total
Which is what 30% more melee dmg?
dense tendon
what is this doomless es build
vale lantern
define maxed
ornate kiln
Every double t7 slam
vale lantern
link the profile i'm sure I can find a flaw
ornate kiln
Waiting for proper exalt base for 2lp relic from imprint and then just 3lp chest which is just waiting for me to log
Acc: Skylr / nick: skylrcore
Nvm dont check it im on troll build with ravenous XD
My gloves are 2lp t7 t7 mana / atatck speee
vale lantern
need a .5 splitter/belt has the wrong 2nd affix/ boots are t6 t6 just off the top boots want a vit slam at some point nihilis is 7/5
ornate kiln
Here are my 2 official planners
vale lantern
idk i look at this and it's solid but def room for improvement
ornate kiln
I slammed t7 t7 nihilis for mapping mana multi
vale lantern
yeah i assume you have other gloves and another ring for redring slot
ornate kiln
I even had fun with t7 mana t6 inc echo damage helmet
vale lantern
currently working on getting a exalt to proc for a proper 3lp midnight
i have a 2nd pair of vise with attack speed on them as well
ornate kiln
Jesus thats much shred
vale lantern
yeah i have a 2nd nihilis for mapping as well with a perfect ms roll
ornate kiln
Idk i wouldbt be able to do uber without clense on belt
I droped 3lp +1
Nihilis
PAIN
vale lantern
Idk i wouldbt be able to do uber without clense on belt
why wouldn't you?
cleanse is super unneeded
esp with how much gear you have he should be instantly phasing
ornate kiln
I get chilled or slowed or this effect from pools reducing leech and shit
solo is fine but i often just carry players then its not as fast
vale lantern
yeah you just step out of the pools and the stacks drop
vale lantern
there very close but with how much multi I have pen was better
ornate kiln
Oh maybe
vale lantern
because i also have a 2lp sol for my bossing setup
there within 1% of each other
multi can be better given the right stats on other gear but it swing back and forth
ornate kiln
Do math and check if 100% inc void dmg blessing would be better for u
My math showed its 12% better than multi
In my case
ornate kiln
I cant get myself to drop 3lp darkstrides
vale lantern
so i can cap my crit with the extra 4 sigil points and stay speced for the extra sigil
the 3lp darkstrides are super farmable because we only use favor on 2 slots
chest and boots
so you kind of just passively farm for them while mapping
ornate kiln
I have like 6-7 tabs of them on 0lp
But i much rather empower shit for alts at this point
Once they make game pay off for minmaxing this crazy i would
vale lantern
yeah i would never throw them into nem
ornate kiln
Might not be optimal yeah
vale lantern
it's fun seeing people react to the gear
ornate kiln
Im much cof player and i used to play warlock where favor was 90% of my gear and with warcamp meta i was generating milions per day
Then it was fun to make 3lp blood of exile so early in season
Now that its so weird to me to have boss gear
I dont even care to farm favor as much
vale lantern
i'm dreading have to farm normal ab for uber keys
ornate kiln
im close to 1k aby uber kills
Its pain
I wish it droped in groups it would be less agony
random thorn
i asssume i want to slam a lp2 worldsplitter with 3 lines at least?
vale lantern
im close to 1k aby uber kills
I just wished normal ab didn't have the stupid rp
if I could farm 200 keys an hour instead of roughly 60 it wouldn't be so bad
but uber ab and normal ab being the same level of time sink shouldn't be the case
plain shale
can anyone who possibly has time explain to me how to make a legendary i see in a guide? im very confused 😦
its a paladin mace
ornate kiln
i mean keys arent that much of an issue for me, its the time i waste on animations and cinematics in normal abberoth and reloading maps again and again
ornate kiln
can anyone who possibly has time explain to me how to make a legendary i see in ...
temporal sanctum dungeon has crafting at the end that allows u to craft exalted item with a unique that has LP on it
youtube willl be your friend, or ask chat gpt
vale lantern
i mean keys arent that much of an issue for me, its the time i waste on animatio...
I mean it's like 30 sec of talking rp which is significantly longer than it actually takes to kill
plain shale
How do you know what unique and purple you need to make something from a guide?
tardy mirage
the purple doesnt matter
the unique is the same as the legendary minus the affixes
well i say purple doesnt matter but it does need to be the same item slot
plain shale
ornate kiln
@plain shale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP5g8FQnQpE
plain shale
like what do i need to find to make this
tardy mirage
hand of judgment with legendary potential ... and then any glove with those mods with an exalted mod
ornate kiln
you drop hands of judgement with 3 LP
you drop exalted gloves with t7 health, health and ward per missing health and then you connect those two
plain shale
didnt knwo that
tardy mirage
ye
plain shale
are the original mods the pink text or the white text
ornate kiln
pink is affixes inhereted from exalted item
tardy mirage
the white text is the uniques mods ... the pink text is the exalteds mods that got ported over
plain shale
ah
so itll get all the exalted mods u use (thats why u said it doesnt matter) but it matters in the sense of what you want/need
ornate kiln
yes
tardy mirage
not all
you can guaruntee 1 mod then the rest is random out of the remaining 3
tardy mirage
i mean unless 4 lp item then it just copies all 4 mods
tardy mirage
least you get to pick 1 of the 4 to keep
ornate kiln
from tier II dungeon +
tardy mirage
^
vale lantern
the rng is much more controlled and the items are much more common
ornate kiln
tier I doesnt give you 1 guaranteed slot
t7 t7 is the new t7 t5
since the slamming change
tardy mirage
the rng is much more controlled and the items are much more common
until you struggle to get good mods on the unique before you even start the porting process
ornate kiln
cant relate
plain shale
how do you know tier? im pressing alt and dont see anything
random thorn
can reroll unqs too now though
tardy mirage
ic
vale lantern
until you struggle to get good mods on the unique before you even start the port...
you can simply reroll them
tardy mirage
honestly never used it yet
ornate kiln
when you go to dungeon, you press the door to enter and it displays I II III IV tier to enter, and you get to choose difficulty
tardy mirage
temporal sanctum has you run all 4 in order
plain shale
how do you knwo the tier of the item tho
tardy mirage
how do you knwo the tier of the item tho
what you mean?
random thorn
how do you knwo the tier of the item tho
turn on advanced tooltips in settings
plain shale
tier I doesnt give you 1 guaranteed slot
this thing
ornate kiln
tardy mirage
oh ye that
also keep in mind that you need to run the teir of the dungeon that can actually meet the item level requirements of the uniquew
ornate kiln
<@249029050813644802> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP5g8FQnQpE
just go watch that, complete guide
plain shale
ok
tardy mirage
teir 2 is like lvl 50 items ... t3 is like 75 i wanna say
and t4 is everything
so 50 or lower you can just run t2 ... 75 or lower you can run t3 to do the craft ... and anything above or below that can be done with t4
would probably run the highest teir you can when doing them tho ngl cuz julra can drop some uniques at different teirs
plain shale
Is there like a diablo method of someone running these things for you and you stand at entrance or nah
tardy mirage
like her gloves can only be gotten in t3 or 4
and vessel of strife only in t4
tardy mirage
just get better uwu
plain shale
ugh
tardy mirage
once you get out into monos doing at least t3 will be a cakewalk
depends on how easy your build scales dmg whether t4 ends up in that list or not
but eventually even t4 is overscaled
desert lodge
T2 already allows tons of uniques, 65 and below
T3 is 75 and below, 4 is everything
tardy mirage
lol
desert lodge
saw that edit huh
tardy mirage
ye
flat linden
I'm using the void warpath guide on maxroll. They suggest Flames of midnigt, but I've taken a fancy to Orian's Sun seal. Am I losing out much?
hybrid turtle
Flames of Midnight gives Void pen, which is hard to come by
On top of Swiftness, which is 20% movespeed
flat linden
yea so basically damage/speed vs survivability?
vale lantern
I'm using the void warpath guide on maxroll. They suggest Flames of midnigt, but...
also durability and damage when the ring auto activates sigils you lose all the passive buffs the 15% armor is next to nothing due to have much str you have as a vk and the increased healing does nothing
the ring is just bad
arctic loom
2 failed slams from julra. sigh. guess im gonna farm again
dense tendon
what were you going for with the 2nd one
arctic loom
void damage
cooldown
vale lantern
why not double health and then t7 move speed on boots?
arctic loom
alright i could try that
i think i have exalts for double health
luckily i got a new 3LP darkstride too
but yeah gonna wait for that 2LP chains again god
damn roll on the void damage tho. too low
vale lantern
doesn't matter your boots have t5 move speed
those are better the moment they have t7 movespeed
arctic loom
alrighty.
vale lantern
movespeed is the best stat in the game for farming by miles
arctic loom
tho this is just for echo-ing. my main prio is suloron
vale lantern
echoing is all that matters uber ab just melts with gear
arctic loom
movespeed is the best stat in the game for farming by miles
can 180 speed achievable on ES VK? you're using warpath right?
vale lantern
no i'm an es vk
dense tendon
warpath reduces your speed stat if anything
vale lantern
not really
you just prio'd t7 health over movespeed and I bet you don't have ms idols either and you don't take all the ms stuff from the tree because you're more worried about farming 2500 corr vs just farming at 2000 but clearing significantly faster because you move so much quicker
10% ms vs 10% damage even the extra corr will never outweight just doing 10% more maps
arctic loom
yup! you're right about those. Kind of focusing on personal record for ubberoth so i kind of skipped on movement speed stuff
vale lantern
once i got my kills sub 50 i stopped caring about ab speed
- just have 2 sets of gear one for farming and one for bossing
arctic loom
im far from sub50 T_T i envy you.
wicked turret
why cant i put a point on void knight?
arctic loom
hoping i could get a 3LP suloron. otherwise this will just rot in the stash
vale lantern
im far from sub50 T_T i envy you.
the faster you farm gear the faster you can get sub 50 😛
arctic loom
that is true but with limited time, i just need to focus more on sub50 rather than getting excellent farming gears. kind of tricky
vale lantern
i mean you said you slammed t7 health because you needed to be durable for 2500 corr which didn't help with speed or killing ab faster so that's not exactly true.
arctic loom
it did help tho with farming at 2500. not as fast as yours but im fine with it
vale lantern
that is true but with limited time, i just need to focus more on sub50 rather th...
my point is it contradicts what you're saying here you did slam for farming
bold heron
Do you recommend Judgement Paladin or Erasing Strike Void Knight for a newcome?
Erasing Strike Void Knight has no mana generator which is nice?
arctic loom
my point is it contradicts what you're saying here you did slam for farming
but i dont focus on farming gears. was farming at 2300 then luckily a 3LP darkstride drops. so i slammed it with what i think i need. my main target is 3lp suloron
then tried to push 2500 with it. and it was fine
vale lantern
Do you recommend Judgement Paladin or Erasing Strike Void Knight for a newcome? ...
erasing strike is very strong and fun with good map clearing and bossing.
judgement is basically unkillable but has slower mapping and bosses but doesn't die
vale lantern
but i dont focus on farming gears. was farming at 2300 then luckily a 3LP darkst...
you're missing the point I'm not gonna talk circles you do you.
silk wasp
The day may come when people differentiate between judgement builds but it is not this day
vale lantern
The day may come when people differentiate between judgement builds but it is no...
I didn't list the 3-4 different erasing strike setups either.
he asked a general question and got a general answer he didn't ask which version of the builds were best at what
random thorn
omfggggg, slammed my t2 worldsplitter, and it landed on the only shit stat
zzzzzzzzzzz
arctic loom
omfggggg, slammed my t2 worldsplitter, and it landed on the only shit stat
it's ok, mate. most of the time all of us get setbacks too.
vale lantern
whelp i guess i got to farm another pair of 3lp darkstrides
cause that's a crazy 7/7/7
vestal mirage
Damn
silk wasp
I didn't list the 3-4 different erasing strike setups either.
There's really one one ES with minor variations. Judgement Aura and Judgement spam function and gear so differently that they shouldn't be lumped together
vestal mirage
whelp i guess i got to farm another pair of 3lp darkstrides
Please tell me that phys res got t5 and you were able to creation them
vale lantern
There's really one one ES with minor variations. Judgement Aura and Judgement sp...
that's actually not true but your initial comment was just passive aggressive. If you're so bother by it why didn't you do a write rather than being passive aggressive.
vale lantern
Please tell me that phys res got t5 and you were able to creation them
doesn't matter idc if the phys goes to 5 because the only way they're better than mine is if i land the 7/7/7 so all i have to do now is creation them
vale lantern
like i could in theory reroll the range 2-3 times to try to get the % health higher but reall that's minor and risking the movespeed and the vit roll isn't worth the gamble
vestal mirage
Bruh
vale lantern
i'm farming ring imprints from echo rewards so i just left my boot in the trove just incase something big popped
i'm excited
vestal mirage
How much ms do you have with those boots
vale lantern
180 in my ms gear
vale lantern
clearing maps faster is the only real way to continue to scale rewards since corr soft caps favor and rarity on bosses
zoom zoom
vestal mirage
Makes sense. Plus going faster is always more fun
vale lantern
yeah
vestal mirage
My 2 main builds have anywhere from 30% ms to 60% my basher gets to like -20 when horizon is fully stacked
Slow beefy boy
vale lantern
we found the turtle
arctic wave
How y’all getting 2 LP splitter
vestal mirage
Painfully
vale lantern
you should rethink your build negative movespeed is troll and you know it lol
vale lantern
Ive done like 100 collpapsimg worlds and probably 100 black sun bosses with no l...
well it is 1/230
vestal mirage
Have you tried turtling your 1lps
arctic wave
yeah I’ve been turtling religiously
vestal mirage
you should rethink your build negative movespeed is troll and you know it lol
It's the only way to get enough damage on bash for it to be relevant
You get around it by being tanky as hell
vale lantern
It's the only way to get enough damage on bash for it to be relevant
how long does it take to clear a normal ech on avg?
arctic wave
you should rethink your build negative movespeed is troll and you know it lol
Is a -4 MS from Nihilis rip you figure?
everything else rolled well 😭
vestal mirage
Uhh not as fast as you but faster than you might expect. The stacks are reset when you evade so as long as you're constantly evading in monos you're going at a decent enough pace
vale lantern
Is a -4 MS from Nihilis rip you figure?
depends the context for mapping yeah I wouldn't be caught dead for bossing it's fine
vale lantern
Uhh not as fast as you but faster than you might expect. The stacks are reset wh...
yeah i assumed not as fast as my map I was just curious how much slower
vestal mirage
Id have to time myself but it doesn't feel too bad
Was clearing 1k no issues at all
vale lantern
50-60 seconds for a normal echo without a tomb
vestal mirage
- it's funny perma stun locking bosses
vale lantern
some faster/longer depending on the objective/map
vale lantern
+ it's funny perma stun locking bosses
Yeah I just like ES it's what I wished d4 hota was
vestal mirage
Hitting a dummy at 10 stacks is like 2m per bash but I was only hitting Uber for like 200-300k per bash
vale lantern
big chonking swings
vestal mirage
7 minutes to get past his first ward shield
vale lantern
I kill uber in 45-55 seconds depending on if i catch him in an animation
vestal mirage
vale lantern
es goes BRRRR
vestal mirage
I've posted bash pov a few times here
vale lantern
i love the rebuke
arctic wave
d4 hota feels smoother to cast and move around with, if there was one thing I could port from d4 to here it would be the movement and controls
vale lantern
I meme'd around with it on es just cause i wanted to stand in shit on ab prog
vestal mirage
There isn't a 5th skill that really does anything for it so I slapped in rebuke. It's kinda funny on an already giga tank build
vale lantern
d4 hota feels smoother to cast and move around with, if there was one thing I co...
yeah it's smoother but it also just doesn't do damage
arctic wave
yeah either it does no damage or when it’s op it does a quadrillion damage
D4 balance
vestal mirage
I could make it Uber viable if I farmed out a 2lp horizon but I failed the slam on my first 2lp and couldn't be bothered farming another
arctic wave
Or I guess since they nerfed the dog out of the skill and took out all multipliers it will never really be good until buffs
arctic wave
Jesus that’s a crazy drop
pine granite
isnt 2lp horizon like 1 to 1.5k?
vale lantern
yeah
vestal mirage
:^)
vale lantern
like it's not unreasonable to do if your sweaty but it's def up there
arctic wave
the rarest thing I got so far has been max rolled 3 lol foot and that’s just 1/438
vale lantern
rarest item i've gotten and it's a huge brick
pine granite
Got bad rolled nihilis cooked 3 lp 1/14k
arctic wave
rip
dense tendon
is there no better alternative than 1 lp horizon
arctic wave
How do you guys manage loot in cof btw
vale lantern
though if i did use it good luck killing me
jade sail
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/forged-weapons-forge-guard-guide#loot-filter-header
okay im losing my sanity. this dude has 22 points on symbol of hope and i have 20. Ive looked 8 times over his whole gear and I cant find where the hell does he get the extra 2 points. im genuinely gonna have evil thoughts soon XD
arctic wave
Like when it triggers there’s too much to carry
jade sail
i beg of u o someone please help
arctic wave
Do you just portal back
vestal mirage
Funny amount of ehp tho
arctic wave
In the middle of the echo
dense tendon
72% penetration nvm then
pine granite
Like when it triggers there’s too much to carry
what do you mean?
arctic wave
When prophecies trigger there’s too much loot to carry at once
It doesn’t help that I’m hoarding gear for 3 builds
pine granite
dont gather so many at once / filter bad or 0 lp
vale lantern
Funny amount of ehp tho
this is when i'm using a double mana seed
pseudo parcel
There isn't a 5th skill that really does anything for it so I slapped in rebuke....
Devouring Orb can give you void essence
arctic wave
Is there a penalty amber farm or woven echo reward wise for leaving ?
pseudo parcel
so can Rebuke but it's just one stack and low uptime
vestal mirage
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/forged-weapons-forge-guard-guide#loot...
+2 fire minion skills on the necklace?
+2 forge strike on his chest?
Oh
Symbols
dense tendon
orb would also help keep your dooms up
vestal mirage
Could just be an error with the planner. Idk where the 2 points are coming from either
dusk sequoia
How do you guys manage loot in cof btw
frigid zenith
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/forged-weapons-forge-guard-guide#loot...
probably just a case of this
to let you know where to put extra points if you happen to get some
vestal mirage
Devouring Orb can give you void essence
I could. I was having mana issues when using horns as my shield but that was solved when I swapped to a 3lp majasa
I lose dps with majasa but gain a lot more tankiness
Id need a perfect 2lp horns to beat it and that won't happen
pseudo parcel
2LP horns is for MG, just like horizon
If you specialize in Rebuke you have access to some mana regen / mana gain on hit though
I've found it good enough with mountain boots
dense tendon
i kinda wonder what off meta 3 lp items cost on mg
pseudo parcel
If it's truly off meta surprisingly affordable
vestal mirage
If you can find any on the market
pseudo parcel
anything Sentinel or Falconer right now? You better have gold cap 😂
You can't even sell some really good items for a reasonable price because gold cap is still a thing
I saw someone with a 2LP red ring, there's no way you're selling that for what LP1 already sells for
vestal mirage
Lol
jade sail
Could just be an error with the planner. Idk where the 2 points are coming from ...
yeah i was losing my sanity over it hahhaa. but if u cant see it and i cant see it im gonna assume its an error
dense tendon
are you saying 2 lp ws costs gold cap
pseudo parcel
it certainly did it week 1
MG is like.. you log off because you are close buying something for 80m and the next day it's 600m+
It's not even funny
vestal mirage
yeah i was losing my sanity over it hahhaa. but if u cant see it and i cant see ...
Udgard said it's most likely just showing you additional points you can take if you happen to find something good with + healing hands
arctic wave
yeah its great if you want to make a off meta build because the inflation doesnt catch up as much with them
so you sell one inflated item for gold cap
and you can easily deck your off meta build out in 2-3 lp
vestal mirage
I just find auction houses to be so unfun usually
arctic wave
i switched from mg to cof when i made my sentinel because i knew i was never going to make enough to buy decent gear for the meta builds
vestal mirage
That and there seems to be a gold dupe exploit every season
pseudo parcel
and rmt
arctic wave
yeah, idk much about poe but d4 and le both have gold exploit eveery season
im sure poe has something like it or atleast rmt/severe botting
pine granite
Its jsut gold isnt the best trading currency, it works for stash and respects like a playtime measure, but trading should require smth ppl are willing to sell items for.
pseudo parcel
im sure poe has something like it or atleast rmt/severe botting
PoE has crazy rmt, it's literally a million $ industry
Well used to, not like we had a new PoE league in a year 
arctic wave
rip poe
dense tendon
what am i reading
jade sail
Udgard said it's most likely just showing you additional points you can take if ...
ah okok makes sense
arctic wave
i guess the minimal fun you get is that it drops pretty often
vestal mirage
what am i reading
"Fun"
Spending hours farming favor only to buy 30 clotho maps and pray to rng Jesus you hit the jackpot
I've hit t7 melee void once and my clotho build wants melee void + attack speed
That is never happening with decent affix tiers
dense tendon
i think ive farmed 13 stash tabs of clotho, 1 t7 melee void, 0 t7 attack speed
analog tide
If I am dual weilding 2x palarus swords, does the melee and spell scaling off strength/attunement unique to these swords work twice?
pseudo parcel
@vestal mirage call Clotho, she's lonely and crying because you stopped visiting
vestal mirage
pseudo parcel
I feel that though
Weaver items are sick when you hit what you need
otherwise? Pain :(
vestal mirage
I think I'm done with this season tbh. At least taking a little break
It has been a really fun one tho
pseudo parcel
Same! I somehow put 250h in
vestal mirage
About the same amount of time here too
dense tendon
wait if world splitter was a mace ES would be absolutely insane
pseudo parcel
Good year for gaming though, I can finish Expedition 33, Nightreign, Stellar Blade and hopefully some PoE and then it's already time for season 3
vestal mirage
I'm messing around with slormancer atm. It's surprisingly addicting
That and wow with friends
pseudo parcel
I definitely peaked this season though, no way I'm ever getting a better pair
lavish slate
I’ve been bashing my head on uberroth with the maxroll judgement build. Apparently it’s not entirely optimal. F me.
vestal mirage
Wow those boots are insane
pseudo parcel
I wish I didn't rip them to SC 😂
vestal mirage
pseudo parcel
I’ve been bashing my head on uberroth with the maxroll judgement build. Apparent...
What's wrong with the maxroll Judgement? It gets the job done just fine
dense tendon
I’ve been bashing my head on uberroth with the maxroll judgement build. Apparent...
did you spec into cleanse
pseudo parcel
I've found you can do double Sunwreath or Sunwreath + Heirloom instead of Midnight but otherwise the build is solid
vestal mirage
If I do come back it'll be to swap one of my guys to one of the op builds of the patch so I can actually kill uber
pseudo parcel
That and Sunwreath are basically free LP3 rings
lavish slate
What's wrong with the maxroll Judgement? It gets the job done just fine
Found a reddit thread that has a couple swaps to make it easier. Mainly cleansing light and holy eruption.
pseudo parcel
Yeah that's mandatory for Uber
I thought you were talking itemization
For Judgement I'd recommend getting a LP2 Majasa and good idols. You can tank so much more damage over time it's crazy good. Then T7 melee speed on Wing Guards and Transcribers, T7 Mana gain with Vengeance on your Nulls and a T7 ele over time on your Orians. The rest can be literally health slams or halfway okay exalted items and you are good to go for Uber
lavish slate
For Judgement I'd recommend getting a LP2 Majasa and good idols. You can tank so...
Yup I’ve gotten once to 50% with the maxroll build and I’m slightly low on block chance (only 95%, need to grind more majasas).
pseudo parcel
100% is must have imo
lavish slate
Aaand very low hp (2.8k or so)
pseudo parcel
95% might as well be 50%
lavish slate
But yeah everything is good as long as there is something to hit
pseudo parcel
If in doubt drop judgement at your feet while hitting the air
lavish slate
That’s the jam
pseudo parcel
unless you get hit by Abberoth's Curse you can sit anywhere and likely survive
dense tendon
playing with 5% chance to get oneshot is wild tbh
lavish slate
Got t7 judgement on twisted heart and t7 mana gain on vengeance on chest so that compensates a bit
pseudo parcel
That's great!
lavish slate
playing with 5% chance to get oneshot is wild tbh
It is 🤣
pseudo parcel
Get yourself a LP1 belt with a fat 26% health slam
lavish slate
But yeah I guess I just need the majasa with t7 block slam and the hp belt
pseudo parcel
Try for the LP2 Majasa, it's very common
dense tendon
does thrown flat phys even exist
twilit valley
I have 3 lp3 majasa . Trying to farm nem for a nice exalt to slam
lavish slate
Try for the LP2 Majasa, it's very common
I think I have one but slammed a bit too eagerly
I think I have 3 in stash 🤣
twilit valley
Farming the exalts is sometimes harder than getting a lp3
lavish slate
Farming the exalts is sometimes harder than getting a lp3
Yup.
pseudo parcel
You can look at this character, it's not overly optimized but sits at 3,8k health or so
That gear is easily obtained in CoF
twilit valley
My judgment pally has mediocre gear on but in the stash I have a 2lp relic , 3lp belt , 3 lp shield , 3 lp rings but farming the right exalts is killing my life
lavish slate
I’ll just switch the build tonight and bang a couple tries on Uberroth. Gotta dodge as much as possible though.
frank tangle
First ever Kill 🙏
quaint hearth
does thrown flat phys even exist
not on weapons
for weapons it takes 50% of melee for javelin
pseudo parcel
My judgment pally has mediocre gear on but in the stash I have a 2lp relic , 3lp...
Getting good rings is pain.. I have a LP4 Sunwreath that's rotting in stash
twilit valley
First ever Kill 🙏
Can you link your build
vale lantern
Getting good rings is pain.. I have a LP4 Sunwreath that's rotting in stash
anything that you cant trove farm is brutal
but anything you can trove farm is free
twilit valley
Getting good rings is pain.. I have a LP4 Sunwreath that's rotting in stash
Haha yeah cause you know it’s hard to get another lp4 , let’s hope you slam it before season ends
pseudo parcel
but anything you can trove farm is free
I don't even have a good ring to imprint after 100+ nem towers at 1k corruption
vale lantern
I don't even have a good ring to imprint after 100+ nem towers at 1k corruption ...
nem towers exalts scale with corr so while farming bases you should pump the corr as long as you don't die
pseudo parcel
I'm not asking for the impossible, 7 6 6 5 would be FINE
twilit valley
How much average amber you get per run , I get around 2.5k
pseudo parcel
but alas it's nowhere to be found
analog steppe
The problem is everyone’s expectations are too high
vale lantern
The problem is everyone’s expectations are too high
not true
analog steppe
You shouldn’t be expecting triple exalts
twilit valley
Monster 404 post your build
vale lantern
You shouldn’t be expecting triple exalts
why not?
dense tendon
you mean triple exalts from nemesis or from the imprints
pseudo parcel
I'm not expecting it but I also don't feel like slamming 7 5 5 5 on a 4LP
vale lantern
if you have a triple exalt imprint you can 100% generate enough of them to slam into items
twilit valley
I think I’m the worse player here and probably played more hours than most
I hit 3700 hours
lol
frank tangle
Can you link your build
just standard Judgement Paladin but with Aurora's Time Glass + Rahyeh 's Light https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-paladin-guide#build-scaling-header
twilit valley
Dude I calculated that’s over 150 days of my life
pseudo parcel
I'm not judging, I have more in objectively worse games
quaint hearth
I'm not expecting it but I also don't feel like slamming 7 5 5 5 on a 4LP
meantime I slammed t6 t5 t5 in Suloron boots 😎
vale lantern
meantime I slammed t6 t5 t5 in Suloron boots 😎
that's an actual crime
pseudo parcel
meantime I slammed t6 t5 t5 in Suloron boots 😎
Yeah LP3 is different.. but it would also depend on the item for me
twilit valley
just standard Judgement Paladin but with Aurora's Time Glass + Rahyeh 's Light h...
Thanks , congrats .. I need a good ring to duplicate and slam
arctic wave
wow i just encountered the most unfair sequence of moves from uberroth
final phase he used the slam so you have to ddoge to the edge of the shortened arena
and then immediately after he used the giant cone beam
so while you have to sit at t he edge you have to facetank the entire beam
vale lantern
he cant cast both at once
pseudo parcel
I think you can still dodge that though
vale lantern
no there is a wind up to both
pseudo parcel
The beam always comes after the s u c k
arctic wave
its the wide beam before the small deadlier beam
vale lantern
clip it
arctic wave
im not quite tanky enough to eat the wide beam for long but i can imagine someone with 4k+ hp could run through it
vale lantern
there is a wind up to both parts of the beam so you had to have been slow getting back in or something
uber ab can be frustrating but I've never had something unfair happen
arctic wave
ive killed him many times now it was just surprising that it happened
pseudo parcel
I don't think that's possible / never saw it, usually if you disengage the boss during that phase he either does ice or fire puddle followed by auto into triple slam
arctic wave
usually he never casts that after time slam
yeah i was expecting a puddle or something else
pseudo parcel
Abberoth had enough and thought f this traveler in particular
vale lantern
the ultimate uber ab solution. mmore damage
solves all problems with that fight lol
alpine canopy
When are we expecting season 3 anyway?
Yeah, I'd guess about 4 months out from S2 release is the target
frank tangle
Not the Best but is this good enough for slamming?
arctic loom
Not the Best but is this good enough for slamming?
yup! seems like it's your first World Splitter. not bad
i'd say go for it. just make sure to slam T7 melee void damage.
frank tangle
i'd say go for it. just make sure to slam T7 melee void damage.
shittt... only have T6, back to farming 🤕
arctic loom
also, if you dont know yet, T2+ Temporal Sanctum grants allows you to select 1 affix to slam. so you wont really waste anything
copper hawk
Is the abberoth fight different when you face him again after the harbinger quest?
thorny spoke
Not the Best but is this good enough for slamming?
Totally.
arctic loom
Is the abberoth fight different when you face him again after the harbinger ques...
normal abby is normal abby no matter how many times you face him
copper hawk
Ok cool. I messed something up then
arctic loom
shittt... only have T6, back to farming 🤕
im not really recommending it 100% as it is too early but just so you know, you can use Rune of Havoc.
just use it as a last resort as it is quite rare.
quaint hearth
Guys
For Javelin throw
For 1 LP should I go for flat phys or %phys increase?
analog tide
I am trying out a multistrike smite void knight, utilizing strength instead of attunement since I am using a palarus sword.
Whats generally better- 8% increased damage, or +1 spell damage?
I know smite scales at 4% increased damage per 1 pt of attunement, or I could go for strngth and get +1 spell damage for 2pts of strength.
zealous jacinth
my manifest armor will be happy after redemption rune cooked this weapon from trash to bis
worldly depot
my manifest armor will be happy after redemption rune cooked this weapon from tr...
tbh its kinda bad for manifest armor xd
zealous jacinth
tbh its kinda bad for manifest armor xd
why though? with only melee fire t7 and melee void t5 on my slam in naal's tooth, my manifest is at 900k-1.5m each hit and 3-4m per tick of spin.
not sure if im gonna go melee phys or crit multi on last slot though
worldly depot
why though? with only melee fire t7 and melee void t5 on my slam in naal's tooth...
bcs manifest armor gain full stats from weapon soo things like flat dmg, increased dmg, crit, crit multi would be way better than minion dmg
zealous jacinth
i dont need melee crit/ crit chance cause my manifest can crit all time already
worldly depot
or as
zealous jacinth
oh yeah, attack speed should be better here
im planning on using havoc after putting attack speed
hopefully, melee fire/attackspeed at T7/T6. and minion melee could be t6/t5
though i dont have lp3 naal at the moment. lp4 would be reaching too much
damn 9 forging potential left after a series of havocs. i might just go rune of refinement cause the rolls are bad at the moment
rip 1 rune of refinement = 9 forging potential lol
vestal mirage
Average crafting attempt
zealous jacinth
ahahahaha
didnt even let me use creation
atleast all stuff got better. just need to get lucky now for lp3/4 naal
vestal mirage
And pray you don't hit the t1
zealous jacinth
that could probably happen, but it's all part of the fun lol
vestal mirage
It's fun until you're 10 3lps in and have missed every slam
pseudo parcel
It's fun until you're 10 3lps in and have missed every slam
zealous jacinth
whats more fun is letting it rot cause i cant find 3lp ever XD
pseudo parcel
My Majasa's want to know your location
vestal mirage
Finding the exalted worthy of a 3lp is usually the hard part
vestal mirage
My Majasa's want to know your location
My maj hit endurance instead of damage reduction and I just went with it. Good enough
I needed it to hit 60% anyways
pseudo parcel
I miss my 776 Block %, Block effect, less damage taken on block base.. the shield now has T1 fire resist :)
pseudo parcel
My maj hit endurance instead of damage reduction and I just went with it. Good e...
That's actually not too bad
vestal mirage
This is mine
Cba farming neme for hours on end for the slight possibility of hitting the multi t7 affixes I want
pseudo parcel
755 is still pretty good
vestal mirage
Yee
vestal mirage
The trick is to always miss the slam so you're even more happy when the slam actually hits
pseudo parcel
Just click "Let fate decide" on LP1 slams for the extra dopamine
pseudo parcel
I went to slam a LP1 but choose T1 Julra on accident
I didn't realize until I in fact did not get T7 block on my lp1 shield
vestal mirage
L0l
pseudo parcel
analog tide
I am trying out a multistrike smite void knight, utilizing strength instead of attunement since I am using a palarus sword.
Whats generally better- 8% increased damage, or +1 spell damage?
I know smite scales at 4% increased damage per 1 pt of attunement, or I could go for strngth and get +1 spell damage for 2pts of strength.
turbid dome
I am trying out a multistrike smite void knight, utilizing strength instead of a...
for void knight your gonna convert it to void smite so it scales with vitality at +1 flat void dmg per vitality
analog tide
I am not converting to vitality
turbid dome
🤔
analog tide
That node only works with direct casting- I am running an indirect smite build via multistrike
analog tide
i dont want to dedicate that many passive points to convert to vitality
i can still gain the same scaling dmg from attunement by default
or strength, when using palarus
turbid dome
yeah but your also a void knight who already wants a lot of vitality
analog tide
i dont really see any other critical VK nodes that depend on vitality investment that could truly benefit this multistrike smite vk setup
other than health, which can be made up on gear
imo
turbid dome
the like best defensive node
and farther support that vk has an easier time scaling void damage rather than fire
arctic wave
vitaltiy > % hp?
turbid dome
vitality is a prefix and %hp is a suffix, they don't compete directly
so ideally both
waxen nymph
turbid dome
so like your body armor for vk
- levels to your main skill
- vitality
- %hp
- flat health/flex spot
for slaming, levels to main skill typically comes first, then %increased health, then vitality
analog tide
Engi I understand the vitality VK stacking, but I want to pursue this strength spell scaling with palarus, it saves some passives. I'll see how it worksand check back.
Your expertise is always appreciated and I am sure I am wrong, but want to try somwething different anyhow.
On that- would 2x palarus swords benefit twice from the scaling affix on them?
analog tide
the smite proc frequency
turbid dome
Engi I understand the vitality VK stacking, but I want to pursue this strength s...
I get that and I want it to work well
arctic wave
for slaming, levels to main skill typically comes first, then %increased health,...
i see, thanks for the help
turbid dome
the smite proc frequency
the chance stacks, the cap per however many seconds does not
analog tide
i think this is only gonna work with 3 or 4lp palarus, of which I do have multiple 3LPs, and a 4lp heh
and stacking attack speed
turbid dome
dont forget the spellblade affix on the swords
analog tide
spellblade?
turbid dome
spellblade?
frigid zenith
+60 spell damage prefix
analog tide
ah yes spelll dmg
turbid dome
swords have a flat spell dmg affix
frigid zenith
oh 50 not 60, discount bin version 💀
analog tide
ive been endlessly trying to get T6-7 melee attack speed and spell dmg on one-handed swords
turbid dome
I'd imagine full spell focus
analog tide
full smite focus
would a T7 spell dmg take priority over T7 crit multi?
or T7 void dmg?
this setup will be like 95% crit chance or so
turbid dome
thats a math question, tho in general yeah flat is pretty good
analog tide
I'd like to have T7 melee attack speed, but really only can take one of above in perfect world
although since im not doing aurelis
dense tendon
would attack speed with double palarus even do anything
analog tide
maybe attack speed isnt as necessary since the proc frequency will be less per palarus
yeah
i guess i have the question- is aurelis worth purely for the smite proc frequency vs palarus?
basically every affix on it doesnt benefit this werird vk void smite build
frigid zenith
if you're full smite focus, that's probably a yes
analog tide
its all void, not lightning
frigid zenith
palarus is just a smite delivery system tbh
analog tide
correct
turbid dome
wait are you switching to void?
analog tide
im only using palarus (possible DW them) as ive got $LPs
4LPs
yes its void VK smite via multistrike
frigid zenith
hold on are you asking aurelis as opposed to 2nd palarus or vs 1st palarus
frigid zenith
to the former or latter >.>
analog tide
im saying this as ive got a lvl 100 pally with a full electrify smite multistrike build and its insanely fun but super squisy past 500 and my vk can survive much better with now dmg vs DoT
im trying to decide whats better- 4LP palarus and aurelis with 52% increased attack speed, or dual wielding 4lp and 3lp palarus
frigid zenith
probably the former
turbid dome
^
frigid zenith
not much point in the latter once you're already hitting the 3x smite per second
now in a pally build where you're scaling the attunement to melee damage fully
analog tide
right, its purely there to have 4 affixes, and double dip the strength to spell dmg scaling
dense tendon
ye im not sure you would ever go for str tbh
analog tide
this is also why i was asking about strength earlier for vk, since 2x palarus swords would benefit doubl;y
the palarus benefit of strength to spell dmg
frigid zenith
yeah but if you're not scaling the melee part as well I don't think the str scaling is worth too much
over the aurelis
frigid zenith
because it's just 0.5 spell damage and 4% armor per str that you're getting from that 2nd palarus
turbid dome
because it's just 0.5 spell damage and 4% armor per str that you're getting from...
just the .5 spell damage from the 2nd
analog tide
aurelis is purely there to proc smite and give me 52% IAS
frigid zenith
honestly my current build started along the same thought as yours, but I gave up and switched to pally 😄
analog tide
haha
frigid zenith
just the .5 spell damage from the 2nd
oh yeah the armor is already there
frigid zenith
go axe + palarus!
analog tide
so then, only using 1x palarus sword, dont bother with the strength scaling then
frigid zenith
and scale vit
dense tendon
what does axe do
turbid dome
palarus and the forgotten knight blade is what I do before I get an omnividence (the staff not the amulet) for wizard vk
frigid zenith
what does axe do
lets you scale melee damage from vit in rive
analog tide
what possible 1 hander would benefit this better than the smite proc of aurelis
but i need to multistrike
to proc the smites
frigid zenith
so you can use rive as the smite delivery system while also scaling the vit damage to melee and to the smite
turbid dome
palarus is on melee hit
frigid zenith
basically the VK version of pally palarus double scaling
vestal mirage
Would multismite smite with palarus just be double the amount of smites or do they not stack like that
analog tide
yes but just 1 palarus still doesnt proc much, vs using an aurelis
turbid dome
Would multismite smite with palarus just be double the amount of smites or do th...
double chance, same cap
vestal mirage
Rip. That'd be kinda insane if it did
turbid dome
that part stays the same
but yeah if you want to use rive, axe + sword would be good for that
analog tide
just trying to mninmax smite, i dont think having just 1x palarus sword to deliver it would be enough smite proc
gear wise
frigid zenith
what if you add melee hit from healing hands
turbid dome
did you link your build planner?
frigid zenith
that's 2 hits per atk, at 0.5 proc chance from palarus at best
dense tendon
does hh even fit
analog tide
yea but still
frigid zenith
need 3 atk per second to cap
analog tide
oh i do, i am stacking melee attack speed
analog tide
you guys are trying to help me reinvent the wheel, i truly appreciate the thinktank here haha
turbid dome
there is always the angle of convert this to a smite warpath build
turbid dome
nah void
turbid dome
analog tide
so what wouyld proc more, super fast attacking multistrike with aurelis
or warpath void, with palarus and somethign else
and vortex relic throwing things
dense tendon
well warpath procs are capped
analog tide
again i think the minmax of these spell builds is to go all in on smite dmg
turbid dome
all of these have caps
analog tide
so as much smite proc as possible and as much sm ite dmg as possible
turbid dome
if you want giga smite spam just do direct smite vk wizard with the double cast node in smite tree as that procs in addition to echo chance
analog tide
ya so warpath has a cap, so to add more procs, need to have a throwing ability
turbid dome
and the smite on throwing hit idols/champ affix have a cap
dense tendon
multistrike has a node that smites a billion times per use
turbid dome
yeah multistrike with extra smites instead of swords goes brrr
- bladestorm node to shotgun
dense tendon
wtf do you do with the extra skill points though
analog tide
area i think?
turbid dome
wtf do you do with the extra skill points though
in multistrike?
dense tendon
yeah
turbid dome
probs something like this
not actually sure if you need the extra sword range + aoe node if you convert them to smites
frigid zenith
man it crit and brought the experimental affix level up 💀
I wanted to keep it as low level as possible
frigid zenith
frigid zenith
an extra 2% won't drain me too fast right?
i honestly haven't really gotten a use out of warlord's
arctic wave
yeah that makes sense, sometthing with like a t7 sealed
dense tendon
it's probably a wasted skill point unless you plan on playing for 2k hours but you gotta believe
arctic wave
lol
vestal mirage
hallow herald
Hi. How can I reliably farm plus 4 judgement relics. Someone mentioned using havoc runes to swap tier1 and tier 7, by say putting a tier 1 judgement on the item ,but how if it alrdy has 2 prefixes,
vestal mirage
You can seal 1 of the prefixes off
dense tendon
if it's the right base then 5/5/5/5 + 7 is fine tbh
frigid zenith
urgh both slams missed the T7 armor
vestal mirage
Or removal. But that's rng
Seal is guaranteed if 4 affixes + sealing a t1. And gets less and less likely the higher the tier gets
frigid zenith
if it's the right base then 5/5/5/5 + 7 is fine tbh
but at that point it's probably easier to get a good 7755
vestal mirage
Those are still pretty solid gloves
frigid zenith
neither the base nor the exalted are super hard to farm, thankfully
vestal mirage
Armor shred super nice to have on gloves
dense tendon
wait what are you using those gloves for
frigid zenith
yeah this build just happens to have tons of shred already
some DW palarus pally build
not a judgment build
vestal mirage
How many stacks do you get without the gloves?
frigid zenith
actually lemme check
vestal mirage
Those gloves kinda look bis to me tbh. Unless you're somehow getting like 100+ stacks without shred on gloves
frigid zenith
I haven't actually paid attention to it in action but it should have like 100% shred with double hits (vengeance + iron blade) and double effeciveness
vestal mirage
I usually aim for 50 stacks but anything over 100 is great. It just falls off in effectiveness after that
dense tendon
dont you wanna use the blood mage gloves
turbid dome
go smack that training dummy
turbid dome
dont you wanna use the blood mage gloves
if you want a lot of attunment those gloves give a crap ton
turbid dome
all non phys dmg?
vestal mirage
frigid zenith
it's 80ish stacks with the glove 👀
vestal mirage
What kind of damage are you doing
frigid zenith
but it's non-phys so the diminishing return probably already dropped off a ton
vestal mirage
Ah
turbid dome
8 ish % more vs 10 ish % more from the effect at that many stacks
wait no ignore those
I made a typo
there ya go
wooden mountain
Anyone know which nodes in forge strike apply to the forged weapons?
turbid dome
Anyone know which nodes in forge strike apply to the forged weapons?
should be those ones with the red circle
turbid dome
sadly temper doesn't explicitly state that it applies to forged weapons
just forge strike
wooden mountain
yeah, I was hoping it was a bit like gathering storm where saying it applies to the [Skill Name] means it applies to the sub-skill too unless it specifically says that it doesn't
turbid dome
yeah minions need to be explicitly said
wooden mountain
I'm thinking about firestarter's torch forged weapons trying to scale the spreading flames up enough to do impressive clear
turbid dome
tho of course you can just get a fat melee fire damage affix on your weapon and your forged weapons get that
turbid dome
I'm thinking about firestarter's torch forged weapons trying to scale the spread...
careful with that as your forged weapons rely on your weapon's stats
frigid zenith
what do ward builds usually use to maintain high ward? ward retention? do I need ward decay treshold too
wooden mountain
yeah I know firestarter's torch has abysmal stats
turbid dome
what do ward builds usually use to maintain high ward? ward retention? do I need...
ward decay threshold pushes the ward formula to the right, so if you have 500 stable ward and get 200 decay threshold, your now at 700 stable ward
a mix of both is usually good
tho the difficult part is balancing passive ward gain, active ward gain, ward retention, ward decay and burst ward
frigid zenith
seem a bit small in value when your ward goes to 4-6k++ doesn't it
turbid dome
especially on sentinel where a lot of your options are ass for ward retention