You cast abyssal echoes via void cleave I believe
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tired pasture
ahhh okay , sweet , thanks peeps
harsh nova
noobzor build is frozens build
tired pasture
ahhh , some passives are different but fair
harsh nova
he just told frozen what he'd change for mapping mainly
but the bossing setup noob has is unmatched
tired pasture
i saw and its insane, im somewhat there, got the idols and inspirational gear, just need a 2lp weapon and gloves and ill be ballin
the tankiness is so low
harsh nova
glass cannon life
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/omKkXv8Q this was the mapper variant i was going for myself but it's just way too much gear to farm cba
crude matrixBOT
tired pasture
yeah fair, i just want a bossing VK, luckily i got my ES very geared i can do uber abberoth but i really want to try javlin timerot, so farming weapons and gloves to get good damage
analog tide
Are we limited to 10 stacks of shock on enemies? Using multiple sources (oceareon, stormtide boots etc) the # of stacks never exceeds 10
harsh nova
yes
in game guide will tell you what you need to know about debuffs
don't think any are missing
thorny spoke
yeah fair, i just want a bossing VK, luckily i got my ES very geared i can do ub...
I went this route too. Erasing strike and time rot.
Time rot is a pleasure to kill bosses with lol.
steady yew
glass cannon life
I tried my multi strike smite at 1k corruption on shade I can’t get hit lol even with 2 red ring /null end and decaying skull 😂
analog tide
@steady yew so hows the build?
@steady yew heres mine, still infant phase
I have toyed with majasa vs DW with palarus. DW gets to 1k stacks soooo much faster and it feels way better albeit squishier
Still testing stormtide boots vs stymied fate. I dont have the idols I want.
I really wish there was a shield that provided a subtantial amount of melee attack speed.
random thorn
ubberoth is so frustrating to learn zzz
steep trail
@random thorn onnce you memorise all his moves and the order in which they apear, its straight forward
and its only gonna be easier the more geared you are
random thorn
i know all the main phase moves, it's the ones in between that are so inconsistent
sometimes he charges away from vortex = great, sometimes he jumps back into it, zzz
harsh nova
I tried my multi strike smite at 1k corruption on shade I can’t get hit lol even...
my target planner should do fine :))
steep trail
have you learned his animations?
wicked turret
i want to ask for nemesis thingy do i take it everytime or do i banish till i get the right items i want?
harsh nova
already autoboming 1kc with duel wield 
steep trail
time to spam uber
analog steppe
i want to ask for nemesis thingy do i take it everytime or do i banish till i ge...
The only difference between challenge and banish is the time spent to kill, both choices reset the pool of items for the next look
analog tide
my target planner should do fine :))
can you link your build please?
harsh nova
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bad2MnNQ this is the aspirational planner
crude matrixBOT
analog tide
What is the nature of the build? Why Aurelis if you dont run smite?
analog tide
i didnt look at the skills, thank you
wicked turret
The only difference between challenge and banish is the time spent to kill, both...
ah so i just challenge all the time?
analog tide
thoughts on vk vs pal for this type of build?
analog tide
super interesting thank you Nacho
harsh nova
haven't cleared uber yet with my current gear, but the aspirational planner is like 3x as tanky as i am currently
harsh nova
yeah for void knight gain so much crit support now
analog tide
ok, did you look at my build above? Its electrify stacking with as much edot/edot as possible
but pretty squishy beyond 500c as the only sustain really is spell dmg leech
harsh nova
ok, did you look at my build above? Its electrify stacking with as much edot/edo...
i didn't
analog tide
stacking melee attack speed and wing guards so all in on dot
harsh nova
why not judgment at that point tho
analog tide
i just love the smites getting thrown everywhere
with aurelis, and amplifying the smites with palarus
steep trail
turbid dome
open barn
fail 6th glove, tired farming 2lp glove zzz
steep trail
eh
open barn
all my 2 lp glvoe from nemesis xD
analog tide
Thoughts on switching anomoly for healing hands seraph blade with lightning nodes?
@harsh nova
harsh nova
dunno, i don't play dot builds 🤷
flint inlet
can someone tell me how time rot scales? usually ailments have their own base damage and then you scale it using modifiers
but maxroll says "Time Rot is limited to 12 stacks, so you want to ensure that you are applying it with Skills that have large Damage multipliers"
how does the skill applying time rot matter?
simple reef
how does the skill applying time rot matter?
"more damage" multipliers transfer over to dots
as long as they don't say things like "more melee" or "more throwing" etc
flint inlet
ooo..so I guess this is not a consideration for things like bleed since they stack infinitely anyway...so even if I have 100 stacks of bleeds, some stacks are doing more damage than others because of which skill applied them?
solar tiger
Nodes like this will affect time rot applied by javelin
It still matters in other builds but yeah most other ailment builds scale primarily through applying MORE stacks and lasting longer
Time rot, being capped, can't scale that way
flint inlet
thank you!
solar tiger
That's why this node exists (and why time rot is even a viable build)
flint inlet
yeah...trying my luck on uber with time rot VK...ES din't work out so well for me..
simple reef
uber would be a lot easier on ES than rot imo
flint inlet
the animation lock on ES is brutal on Uber...I don't know how others are doing it. do you guys just predict what uberoth is going to do
simple reef
takes practice
waxen nymph
ooo..so I guess this is not a consideration for things like bleed since they sta...
It's also a consideration for other ailment. If you can apply the same number of Stacks but the skill you use has 100% More Dmg than another one, you deal double dmg
flint inlet
the best I have done with ES is 2nd harbinger spawn after which things are too chaotic and lack of cleanse means low damage even with ES...if I put cleanse on belt then my hp is too low since I don't have 2lp shattered chains
simple reef
well
i know it's easier said than done but frailty is only an issue if you stand in the lasers and puddles
flint inlet
I can avoid those till first harbinger but after than with all that's happening I invariably get a few stacks
simple reef
well how do you position in the fight? do you just fight in the middle or do you rotate through the edge of the arena as it gets crowded with puddles?
hollow veldt
hello guys any Es player can help me
flint inlet
I fight at the edges for the most part...
simple reef
what's your gear like and how long have you been trying?
it's pretty normal to struggle for a couple hours with pre-bis gear
simple reef
it took even the more mechanically skilled players that i know of between 3 and 5 hours of practice before getting it down the first time on ES
ok i don't recommend those boots
i have tried them
if you have trouble dodging stuff
58% movement speed is definitely not helping
try it with darkstride
flint inlet
I do have 2lp suloron's
simple reef
nah i also don't recommend suloron
harsh nova
actually a big fan of waggles build for first clear
simple reef
i mean players have done it with every pair of boots
flint inlet
ok..darkstride it is
simple reef
but imo you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot mechanically if you're not stacking movement speed
it's a night and day difference in terms of dodging triple slam and puddles etc if you have 150%+ms vs 58% lol
pseudo parcel
Movement speed is lowkey op in this game
simple reef
like i struggled for 4 hours using inevitable boots on my first kill and then i swapped to darkstride and got the kill within 30 minutes
flint inlet
ah
simple reef
like sure i did have 4 hours of practice before switching to the strides, that has to be factored in. but i don't think it was just that lol
pseudo parcel
Even outside of bossing you avoid so much incoming damage by just being fast, it's great
simple reef
rest of your gear looks fine
flint inlet
I am currently trying the cleanse belt...should I keep it or switch back to hybrid health
simple reef
use hp and don't stand in lasers/puddles
high ms will help you mechanically and the rest is up to you
simple reef
make sure you aim anomaly AT the boss to apply the 50% void dmg taken debuff
i've seen people numlock it
30% ms slam on strides ofc
flint inlet
got it
turbid dome
I am currently trying the cleanse belt...should I keep it or switch back to hybr...
You want % increased health over hybrid health (on belts)
%increased (assuming both affix’s have equal tiers and rolls) is just more health after you have like 1200 flat health (which includes the like 900 base health from leveling up)
To add, having both %increased health and hybrid health on a belt is good
And on items where you can have hybrid health but not %increased, hybrid is very good
pseudo parcel
You want % increased health over hybrid health (on belts)
I learned my lesson okay
hybrid turtle
Aight, I started playing again, I'm an addict
Found something neato, dunno what to slam
pseudo parcel
wtf
hybrid turtle
Yeah that's what I said when it dropped
pseudo parcel
imagine X + double T7 health
X being for whatever build you want to use it on
Disgusting item
turbid dome
Can’t really go wrong with that slam plan
pseudo parcel
I would do illicit things for a 2LP already, Mana on Vengeance hit + T7 health %
can't imagine a 3LP
hybrid turtle
I do have double t7 health with a t7 prefix, but none for any builds I'd play
pseudo parcel
That chest is reason enough to start a new build 😂
hybrid turtle
Or any t7 prefixes that are useful. It's all crap like throwing critical, etc
Nah, I've got enough builds. Warpath done, javadin done, judgement pally done
Gathering time rot javadin gear now
pseudo parcel
fair enough
I kinda want to start a new build BUT
I'm 18 uber kills in without a relic to show for it
That's my bare minimum, decent LP1 Shattered Worlds and then play something fun
hybrid turtle
My current javadin https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bad8bOeQ
crude matrixBOT
hybrid turtle
Don't mind the blessings, I swap back and forth between javadin and judgement for either speed farming or uberroth
pseudo parcel
I could keep minmaxing Judgement but I also can't seem to get LP1 red rings
turbid dome
I could keep minmaxing Judgement but I also can't seem to get LP1 red rings
Nemesis tower goes brrr
Egg those rings and pray
pseudo parcel
I have 9 bricks with egg
turbid dome
pseudo parcel
Imprint says no, good luck so far
but I have a LP3 Transcribers, LP3 Majasa and LP4 Sunwreath stashed which is nice
hybrid turtle
gl hunting for double or triple exalted shields
All mine failed, am all out
Imprints work REALLY poorly with shields, for some reason
pseudo parcel
I currently have a 7 6 5 5 base but I'm holding onto it still
it wouldn't be a huge improvement over my current LP2 which is 7 5
hybrid turtle
I put in f.ex a helmet with double t7 health, it spits out a lot of helmets with double health
I put in a shield with t7 block and t7 block effect? It basically never gives me either of those stats
hybrid turtle
I'm convinced shields are bugged to hell.
turbid dome
Or an intentional lower drop rate
dense tendon
can you do this on the titan heart
pseudo parcel
I'm really liking this one and won't settle for less than 7 7 6 5
simple reef
My current javadin https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bad8bOeQ
that helmet goes hard damn
hybrid turtle
Yeah my helmet is beyond silly
turbid dome
can you do this on the titan heart
Assuming you have a 3lp titans heart yeah
pseudo parcel
Nemesis offer them VERY rarely
I noticed.. 😞
simple reef
gimme that
hybrid turtle
Nemesis gave me that
turbid dome
I'm really liking this one and won't settle for less than 7 7 6 5
I’d say turtle it no balls but it’s already 4lp
simple reef
i mean getting exactly those affixes right off the nemesis is just wtf
dense tendon
he doesnt deal void damage though
pseudo parcel
That helmet is nuts
simple reef
he doesnt deal void damage though
he should be 😏 the superior javelin
simple reef
that helmet is pretty much bis for time rot
not the highest dmg but you also just don't need all that damage especially not in maps
turbid dome
That helmet is basically BIS for any generic vk build
simple reef
ehh it's not a lot of builds that can use +4 anomaly
hybrid turtle
It's for the void damage
turbid dome
Anomaly has time bubble
simple reef
if you get rid of that line it's just a generic double t7 on a good base which is still good
dense tendon
do you actually go around using shield throw every 4 seconds
simple reef
i know anomaly has time bubble but the +4 points just aren't that useful like this helmet is not useable on ES for example which is the most popular build
turbid dome
Yes there’s probably something better for a specific vk build, but for a generic one a better buff button is great
hybrid turtle
Duke, I throw it off CD
simple reef
cause no mana prefixes just makes both ES and warpath cringe
turbid dome
i know anomaly has time bubble but the +4 points just aren't that useful like th...
Yes
hybrid turtle
Because buff and it actually does damage since I'm a throw build
dense tendon
wait a minute shield throw doesnt need a shield at all?
simple reef
i'd like to see a throwing build use double t7 julra's tho see how fast they throw with no mana cost
turbid dome
wait a minute shield throw doesnt need a shield at all?
Same with shield rush
hybrid turtle
wait a minute shield throw doesnt need a shield at all?
It doesn't lol
turbid dome
simple reef
throw shields off your backpack 
turbid dome
Gimmie a shield throw node where you surf on the shield as it bounces around
turbid dome
It's time, let's see if I can get a decent Nihilis
🙏
pseudo parcel
If I get one I'll make a Smite VK :)
turbid dome
thorny spoke
the animation lock on ES is brutal on Uber...I don't know how others are doing i...
To be honest yeah. And uber is easier on Erasing than time rot.
marsh belfry
For ES VK if my tool tip says this can I use a 0.3 WS? I tried and I think I only see yellow numbers so ..
simple reef
as long as u have 100% crit chance
hybrid turtle
Aight, got a pair of t7 vengeance and t7 %health chests ready for some 2 LP nulls
simple reef
just do a quick calc for your crit
these are all the relevant sources of crit for ES
theres a common misconception that u need a .5% world splitter when it's probably the least important roll out of the 3
gilded sphinx
Noobzor I use that VK passive on my build. Snapshots the degen at the start of aura paladin. Same julra snapshot tech. Scalars for timerot are just insane, I don't think I'd be able to minmax past a 30s kill with aura. Finally had a second to look through your build, looks real solid
simple reef
i could be dumb but i need more words lol i dont understand half of what you said
what is "that" VK passive? and what aura paladin?
like judgement aura?
gilded sphinx
The mana cost one you said yesterday you're using
simple reef
oh you mean the forge guard one then?
simple reef
+0.5% melee dmg per mana cost?
how long does judgement aura last and how much mana does it cost?
gilded sphinx
12s my cost is 50
simple reef
if you have any mapping footage i'd be curious to see lol
ele dot damage on julra's rings is actually just absurd
it's like what +1600% increased dmg for both rings? 😂 with just 1 LP
gilded sphinx
Healing effect for aura is substantially better but yeah it is 1600
gilded sphinx
Attunement is actually the best scaler
thorny spoke
theres a common misconception that u need a .5% world splitter when it's probabl...
Yeah it's really easy to move points to make up for crit deficit.
Mortal vow, one point in Anomaly, up to three points from Sigils of Hope. These are low cost ways to make up that crit.
gilded sphinx
I have two t7t5 julras
hybrid turtle
So you want t7 attunement and t5 healing effect julras?
simple reef
that's sick i'd love to see its damage
hybrid turtle
Or a mix and match?
gilded sphinx
T7t7 ideally lol
thorny spoke
That's nasty lol
simple reef
run prophecies
gilded sphinx
I can show you a clip, a Chinese guy minmaxed it to all hell
simple reef
sure
hybrid turtle
They should really lower the rubbish uniques from nem and increase things like jewelry instead
simple reef
idk how much favor you need for an imprint on average but i got my ring imprint with ~400k favor (maybe i got lucky tho idk)
marsh belfry
Behold my monstrosity
gilded sphinx
simple reef
yeah that's a monstrosity alright
gilded sphinx
That's with t7t7 julras
thorny spoke
T7 T7 Julra lmao. Unethical
gilded sphinx
Two of em
simple reef
Noobzor I use that VK passive on my build. Snapshots the degen at the start of a...
no build can really go under 30s anyway unless you have massive one shot damage to skip phases, every build is bottlenecked by damage reduction/immunity phases so you just can't really get too far under 30s
anomaly is only able to dish out a one shot because quicksand is bugged to make your dots bleed out faster than they should
gilded sphinx
Fair yeah not much for skips with dots unless you can speed them
simple reef
like ppl think javarot is higher dmg than falconer but it's not
falconer has like 10x the dps it just doesnt do it in one hit
simple reef
T7 T7 Julra lmao. Unethical
honestly double t7 julra is pretty easy to get if you have an imprint
the unique itself isn't rare and then you just slam a bunch of imprints and get it eventually
inb4 julra LP level nerf next patch
gilded sphinx
What's the best way to hit the two mods you want on an imprint? I have a ton of t7t7 rings but I guess I keep printing them and rolling them?
Open affix, redemption until 1 mod you want, craft next one, havoc until they're both hit?
simple reef
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ynVKzgEUz/?spm_id_from=333.1387.homepage.video...
does he have a planner somewhere?
also i was more eager to see mapping footage with the aura but that's cool too
simple reef
can you link your planner i'd like to see how much room there is for improvement
gilded sphinx
I have his profile he's set up for map clear rn
simple reef
or his yeah
simple reef
What's the best way to hit the two mods you want on an imprint? I have a ton of ...
havoc your t7s on the suffixes and get an open prefix, try to get the other prefix down to tier 1 or 2 so it can be sealed
ty
gilded sphinx
We came to very similar builds independently, mine is slightly different but I'd say his is better so I won't post mine
simple reef
crafting will make your imprint worse (by consuming fp) so make sure you always keep your best imprint as a backup
gilded sphinx
Yeah I've been doing the same thing with my imprints just bad rng ig
simple reef
but basically try to craft on your imprint drops to get them as close as possible to a 01/77
with high fp (if you can, otherwise fp can always go up on future drops)
gilded sphinx
Yeah just trade em out and try to walk up the fp?
And trade for lower prefixes on the way up, pray for an open
simple reef
i mean 01/77 if you want two prefixes, otherwise whatever 77/10 for two suffixes or 07/17 for mixed or whatever
simple reef
Yeah just trade em out and try to walk up the fp?
ye if needed
basically just get the imprint to a point where you're guaranteed to craft what you want when it drops
gilded sphinx
The white prefix doesn't get rerolled by the imprint right? Do you craft the one prefix you want?
gilded sphinx
Yeah it seems to mostly not
simple reef
but yeah it seems that often times it drops the way it's imprinted
so bonus points for that
simple reef
i mean you can just seal it either way if it rerolls or w/e
gilded sphinx
True you can seal and craft both
simple reef
the most important part is to have the t7s on the opposite side of what you're looking for
gilded sphinx
My helm and my falconer daggers I just brute forced redemption until I got both lol. Attunement mana took a while
simple reef
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/xiaoyu307/character/palading
how tanky is that
gilded sphinx
Can't take much in abberoth with double julra setup but in maps with rr and crab ring I blast 1300s with no issues
simple reef
his movement speed is pretty dogshit for a mapping setup
gilded sphinx
Oh are you seeing the julras or the red rings looks like he's playing rn and swapping gear around
Different rings and boots for maps
gilded sphinx
I use blood of exile with t7 speed, rr and crab or midnight, and go unarmed for 400% inc aoe when mapping
Either is fine crab is tanker
simple reef
what's the point of orian's belt?
gilded sphinx
Int for ward retention
Can channel to like 7.5k ward
Jesus I just noticed he's been playing alot lately he has t7t7 shattered worlds and nihilis now
simple reef
this seems to cap out around 160% ms
gilded sphinx
Yeah and you just run straight through everything with 400inc aoe
simple reef
i still need footage to really convince me but this looks cool
simple reef
like warpath is also chilling at 160% ms while channeling so
idk just need more damage than warpath and more tankiness
then it's like an improved warpath
if you wanna stream i'll take a look
gilded sphinx
Won't be able to for a couple hours unfortunately I'll lyk when I get a chance
gilded sphinx
Yeah gloves and chest are easy to 4lp, ladle easy 3lp
2lp shattered and nihilis a bit rough
simple reef
dont need that
gilded sphinx
2prop idols take a while
simple reef
i already have all the idols
gilded sphinx
Light res mana?
simple reef
oh he doesnt have those on the planner im looking at
whats the lightning res for?
just mana regen?
gilded sphinx
Yeah or healing effect light res, balancing the two. Yeah for regen, your damage is based on your current mana at cast so you want it full
For abberoth at least mapping it's whatever most times
simple reef
ok not really planning to do uber with that
split gulch
So there's... no sound design at all for the Healing Hands sky beam? I guess I'll just turn up the music but there are plenty of existing fire sounds in the game they could have attached to it
simple reef
would you actually run into mana issues in maps if you don't invest in mana regen?
cause im thinking of just slapping on a kestrel for 15% ms
dry moss
switched from warpath to ES and doesnt feel great. damage is nice but im getting one shot alot
simple reef
ES should be tankier do you just have like worse gear or something
simple reef
take off suloron put on darkstrides
and swap your phys res blessing to armor
it's just squishy because you have low budget gear
dry moss
dang okay thanks
i know i need to replace my flame ring and need a t7 weapon but what else is lacking?
pine granite
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/xiaoyu307/character/palading
if you create judgement aura while rings' effect is active does it snapshot for full duration?
simple reef
this: much better
the leech doesn't do anything you're just missing out on a bunch of hp
dry moss
i just followed the maxroll. weirtd
turbid dome
even then you want the 10% increased health
simple reef
you have 4.5% leech on your ring you press ES you should go to full hp
your chest is also omega low roll so if you can reroll that in the gauntlet of strife go for it
not necessarily prio
but you literally would not be able to roll it worse so it can only go up lol
dry moss
i have another one with 2lp and 40 percent was just waiting to get another t7 es
simple reef
i mean
this one is fine just reroll it
if you have a well rolled 2LP you can keep it for a double t7 later
there's no reason to slam another t7/t5
dry moss
alright ill farm for a2lp titans
gilded sphinx
if you create judgement aura while rings' effect is active does it snapshot for ...
yes
simple reef
if cycle of decay was working you'd be able to "snapshot" julra's and have perma uptime on your strongest timerot dot with javelin too
gilded sphinx
would you actually run into mana issues in maps if you don't invest in mana rege...
not really, you can get by in maps without it. the attunement on the chest is a fair bit of damage as well.
simple reef
unfortunately i get the feeling that cycle of decay won't be fixed until the build is nerfed in 1.3 😄
simple reef
not really, you can get by in maps without it. the attunement on the chest is a ...
yeah i figure the attunement is nice
gilded sphinx
mana, %inc damage, and flat spell added to the dot. attunement is a crazy scalar
simple reef
iuno not super keen on it though just tryna move fast
gilded sphinx
both common 4lps
simple reef
just 1k
gilded sphinx
yeah youd be fine without urzil
simple reef
unless somebody figures out that imprints proc 20x as much
on high corruption
there's no reason to go higher
but maybe they do
i mean not the imprints themselves but the rate of t7s when they do proc
gilded sphinx
ive had weird ass lucky with imprints proccing more at 300 but probably just rng low sample
simple reef
as in 300 or 1300
gilded sphinx
300
just weird rng i think tho
can also change the tree around a bit to get 100% block with t5 block on a ring
i do that for mapping
less damage needed and can get a t5 block chance on a midnight pretty easily
daring pumice
what is this screen?
turbid dome
what is this screen?
you put woven echos onto the timline there
simple reef
alright might look at the build later not sure i have the motivation to put it together tho
turbid dome
then you can go and do said woven echos
simple reef
but i like the idea
daring pumice
then you can go and do said woven echos
huh
turbid dome
huh
so like click one of the two woven echos in your storage, then click an empty spot
pine granite
you can create a layout of areas for you to run later
turbid dome
doesnt hurt to do them
solar tiger
Just keep in mind that resetting your timeline via shade will clear them and give nothing if you didn't run them
turbid dome
you get a ton + can just buy them with memory amber from spider cult guy
plus also doing a woven echo for the first time gives you a point for the weaver tree
which means more loot
solar tiger
(I definitely didn't lay out a whole set of lostwood & shrines and then accidentally reset my timeline, nope)
pine granite
its part of new endgame, you will drop those woven echoes during gameplay and then can place them on timeline map via use of cemetery echo, then run them. some of said woven echoes are very usefull, contain bosses with unique loot or special endgame crafting devices.
turbid dome
(I definitely didn't lay out a whole set of lostwood & shrines and then accident...
learning experience
turbid dome
you can add as many as you want at once
daring pumice
also proud to share my improvement from the disaster my charac was 2 days ago lol still cant thank yall enough for the help and the patience
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/BigBootyBilla/character/BigBootyBilla
solar tiger
I get a weird pleasure out of laying out a huge line to the edge of the web and making the game freak out "No you're too far out! Shades everywhere!"
arctic wave
discord randomly shoed me someone from this chat playing
it said marathon for 32 hours
is this how you guys get the good gear
turbid dome
arctic wave
turbid dome
yeah
turbid dome
then do the quest echos
solar tiger
Your goal in each timeline is to clear the 3 quest echoes, the last of which is always the boss
turbid dome
well fill means get enough stability to do the 3 quest echos
pine granite
Run echoes till stability allows quest echoes (on the left), do the quests, kill last quest echo boss to complete timeline and get blessing, move to next timeline
turbid dome
it doesn't actually fill up all the way
solar tiger
Doing that lets you move on to the next timeline which will be higher level
pine granite
meanwhile getting gear and exp ofc and emproving character along the way
turbid dome
killing the timeline boss also gets you blessings
which either help with drops or give you a stat boost
defeat all the timelines in regular monos and you get to go to empowered monos with its questline
daring pumice
how do I know what are the quest echos
turbid dome
on the left
solar tiger
They're not nodes, they're listed on the top-left
turbid dome
its not an echo on the map
solar tiger
Yep
pine granite
kinda
turbid dome
each quest echo is unique
for every timeline its
- get enough stability
- do the quest echos
- murder timeline boss in the 3rd quest echo
daring pumice
ok
turbid dome
if you care about lore, the quest echos have a little bit of what happened differently in that specific timeline
before it got shattered into what your traveling through
other important thing, the 1st timeline's boss (the timeline your in) can drop the woven flesh armor, its very helpful for when going through regular monos
but its not needed if you don't get it on your first kill
pine granite
also proud to share my improvement from the disaster my charac was 2 days ago lo...
Check out Observatory, if you gathered a bit favour Circle of Fortune you can try to get some unqiue two-handed mace prophecies, there is one that would be very nice for you at this moment of progression.
faction key is Y by default
daring pumice
thank you very much
I was wondering how to open the tomb of erased vendor again for the past 5 minutes
was just about to ask lol
turbid dome
You can also view the world map and travel to their house
daring pumice
yea I have not engaed with circle of fortune yet at all
I unlocked them as apart of the campaigjnh
but I couldnt do anything so I kind of just moved on
turbid dome
Oh go back their house and buy some quests
You def have enough points by now for stuff
indigo plaza
I was thinking about making a caster Void build, but on paper it looks like it'd be pretty squish... What's kind of a good way (if there is one) to get tanky right now? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bgb7RxvQ Also wanted to get a bit more Vitality to hit that 90 threshold.
crude matrixBOT
solar tiger
Yeah the quest wants you to buy a prophecy but you're unlikely to have enough favour for one at that point.
But they're pretty much the best way of target farming specific gear from this point
daring pumice
Yeah the quest wants you to buy a prophecy but you're unlikely to have enough fa...
yea precisely the problem
turbid dome
You get points for that stuff by just killing things
solar tiger
Yeaaah so this option should really be on by default
pine granite
setting to always show rewards is on the right
turbid dome
But yeah you click a star and pick a quest -> a new set of quests show up to pick from
turbid dome
The gamba lady out front of the place also sells lens that can help you narrow down what shows up
But that probs comes later
turbid dome
I reroll right?
You can yeah
daring pumice
regional lenses or greater lenses?
turbid dome
Probs regional for weapon options
pine granite
Try and search unique two-handed mace prophecy on that telescope
turbid dome
Given there’s a weapon region, an armor region, idol region and crafting mats region
solar tiger
Regional is if you want to filter for a specific type of weapon/armour/jewelery
Greater if you REALLY don't want dungeon prophecies, or arena prophecies
turbid dome
Greater has stuff like “no arena quests”
solar tiger
Or later on you can juice it by increasing the cost but doubling the rewards
turbid dome
Worded as 100% less chance for arena
daring pumice
so I think I should buy one of these right?
pine granite
best one is no not monolith so you are not forced out of endgame to dungeons or campaign
turbid dome
so I think I should buy one of these right?
Yea
daring pumice
best one is *no not monolith* so you are not forced out of endgame to dungeons o...
hmm looks like I dont have it
turbid dome
Then that goes into the circle slots in the bottom left of the pick a quest screen
solar tiger
best one is *no not monolith* so you are not forced out of endgame to dungeons o...
I honestly just slap this & the two double rewards lenses on every telescope. Rerolling is so cheap I don't feel bad having to reroll if I don't get anything good.
But that's definitely not an early -game setup
daring pumice
nvm I do
pine granite
hmm looks like I dont have it
it might be in other page or maybe require higher rank 😦
daring pumice
pine granite
yep thats it
turbid dome
Love that one
pine granite
😄 do you even have two lense spots at rank 4? I forgot
turbid dome
Gotta level up more
Also make sure to not pick one that’s like kill Lagon 4 times at 400 corruption
pine granite
oh true evoid ones with corruption required for now
turbid dome
Ah
solar tiger
Imperial watcher is the fake one
daring pumice
hmmm
turbid dome
Yeah don’t do those quests
turbid dome
And get more favor
daring pumice
yep
solar tiger
Yeah just visit back periodically to spend your favour and upgrade lenses if you have the rank
analog tide
The '% increase damage for 4 seconds if you have cast devouring orb recently" idol affix. Do you have to manually cast it? Or can it just be an auto cast when moving?
solar tiger
It doesn't specify directly which usually means it can be an auto-cast
But you'd probably have to test to be sure
daring pumice
is this good?
solar tiger
Feels like it'd probably be like an arc in front of you? I've honestly never used hammer throw
For anything beyond levelling a few levels anyways
analog steppe
Circle obviously
daring pumice
I was running an echo and my last specialization slot was open. and then this dropped
turbid dome
You my friend need to play a smite hammerdin
daring pumice
so I was like yea sure lets do hammers as the last thing
daring pumice
You my friend need to play a smite hammerdin
🤔
turbid dome
That was at Zare
solar tiger
Lol yeah there's a lotta builds I haven't messed around with.
There's a reason 500 corruption is the highest I've ever gone, I'm easily distracted by a new shiny unique
hybrid turtle
I forget which shape nova is
It throws hammers in 8 directions
Like an 8 pointed star
hybrid turtle
Yeah you can't scale nova hammerdin to any meaningful values anymore
It used to be very good in the beta, but now it's been powercrept to irrelevance
turbid dome
yea
bring back no cap on smite on throwing attack
I promise I wont crash my game constantly again
hybrid turtle
Enjoyed that one, with old bastion
hybrid turtle
Good times
analog tide
is there a build link available for that hammer smite build you are mentioning?
hybrid turtle
It's an old build that's no longer competitive at all
It does maybe 3-4% of the dps of the current top builds
turbid dome
you can still do orbiting smite hammers
turbid dome
yea
hybrid turtle
Some enemies are just tiny and getting hammers to even hit them is hard
pseudo parcel
Yeah you can't scale nova hammerdin to any meaningful values anymore
apparently you can do Uber on it if you wanted to
pseudo parcel
Some enemies are just tiny and getting hammers to even hit them is hard
shoutout to my boy Orobyss, bro has the smallest hitbox in existence it feels like
hybrid turtle
It'll just take you a very long time if it's the classic phys crit nova hammerdin from beta
pseudo parcel
Yeah, 7 minute fight I think
arctic wave
ok wow i faarmed for like 3 hours, got the proper t5 mana slam on titan heart for ES, proper str + hp slams for rings and now uberroth is pretty easy
feels like my damage somehow doubled
pine granite
tankiness = uptime = dps, also dont underestimate yourself getting better as a player after every try.
arctic wave
surprised at how much mana the t5 slam gives, almost 100 bonus mana
pine granite
you got better gear and you got more knowledge compared to early attempts, its always like that.
arctic wave
i beat him as bladedancer which i think only 3 other people had done when ehg released the uberroth kill count update, and that took 10 minutes of agony and 10 hours of attempts
but ES was surprisingly harder to survive with since i used a ranged build with more mobility and on demand cleanse
granted ES does like 10x more damage but its definitely a tough fight as long as youre not one shotting him
daring pumice
Is this a good item? and what should I craft on it?
I am running mainly ES so I believe its useful?
loud hill
Seems nice enough. You can try rerolling the implict to get more critical strike chance
Sealing the reflected damage affix is probably easier than removing it
Not sure what to add though
The resistances are nice if you need those
pine granite
Is this a good item? and what should I craft on it?
do you have any Glyph of Despair? you can try sealing refect by upgrading it with glyph in place. If it goes sealed, you can add Vitality in that slot.
loud hill
do you have any Glyph of Despair? you can try sealing refect by upgrading it wit...
Vitality is a nice idea
daring pumice
whats an egg?
loud hill
whats an egg?
It's the unique egg on nemesis. You can put a 0LP unique there and the item will be upgraded
loud hill
It will either get LP or get a affix and become legendary
pine granite
Put something, just to learn how it works and see for yourself
daring pumice
oof, i just empoewerd the nemesis and killed it
loud hill
If I don't have anything I usually just put a unique with a low level requirement. Good for leveling alts
pine granite
dont worry you will get item back in couple echoes, after 3 fights with nemesis.
loud hill
oof, i just empoewerd the nemesis and killed it
If you didn't put anything in the egg, it becomes a random unique
loud hill
I want to swap to a different build and am looking for options
Currently playing Multistrike Smite Paladin and the damage and tankyness are great, but moving around is painful
Even with T7 movespeed I'm still too slow and Healing Hands as traversal has a long cooldown
Are there sentinel builds that are ranged and have better movement?
I saw Fissure Smite and Javelin Time Rot builds, but don't know enough about Sentinel to know how they compare
I've playedHeartseeker Marksman until defeating Aberroth and am too used to running around
bitter heron
What gloves should I be saying for judgement? I see builds using deft wing guards but is not being able to deal critical strikes huge?
hybrid turtle
Ayup, that's the build
loud hill
Only bad thing so far is Lunge as traversal. Can't use it without enemies around
hybrid turtle
Though their guide is slightly wrong
You use crit multi instead of flat phys on spear at lategame
I don't use lunge at all either
I move at 140%+ movespeed constantly
I don't really need lunge
loud hill
Oh, nice
hybrid turtle
My gear is something between their endgame and aspirational tier atm. It's quite good
Killed uber abby with it
Though it takes more skill than I'd like, already got a judgement paladin for killing uberroth after all
loud hill
I'm probably not going furthen than 300c and normal aberroth. That's how far I went on Marksman
arctic loom
what's the duration of anomaly?
alpine canopy
what's the duration of anomaly?
Base is 5s
arctic loom
@steep trail so i got another 2LP. should i sacrifice that 2LP to get 5% crit strike chance? or put mana + crit strike multi on it?
if latter, im gonna lose 60% inc crit strike chance from additional 3 levels of symbols (put on lvl 3 heavenly justice)
arctic loom
yepp
arctic loom
alrighty. sounds like a lengthy but solid plan
steep trail
its more commen than 2lp unique
arctic loom
no luck so far in nemesis. always 1 legendary haha
im checking your build and noobzor's. kind of the same with the anomaly and symbols. I can go that path too if im gonna put mana + crit strike multi on shattered worlds
steep trail
bro, i got 4 of them in one neùesis session
arctic loom
wow
arctic loom
bro, i got 4 of them in one neùesis session
alrighty. it's always best to keep 2 of equips anyway for theory testing.
arctic loom
i really envy your 3LP World Splitter. imagine you can hit melee void + crit strike multi + chance to shred on it. goddamn
steep trail
before you think of going for 5% crit
ive had it on the slam
t7 multi
t7 void dmg
t5 bleed
t5 void pen
and now i have 5x2lp in stash, and i dont have the courage to try and get another one
arctic loom
omg
forest basin
I like my double t7 void melee dmg / melee attack speed
steep trail
atk speed is so over rated on ES
arctic loom
I like my double t7 void melee dmg / melee attack speed
i loved that at first too. until i got t7 crit strike multi. it's like 3x better believe me
steep trail
its double edge sword
arctic loom
even though i have 1900 mana, crit strike multi is better than melee aspd on worldsplitter
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
hybrid turtle
Wish I could use my CoF favor to buy amber
steep trail
nothing survives 1 hit when mapping
steep trail
the build is 1 hit kill, why have more atk speed when you kill them anyways
the only thing that survive long enough is uber
forest basin
Speed affects animation on 1 hit
steep trail
and that also dies prety quick at the end end game
forest basin
You move faster
arctic loom
i fell inlove with melee aspd too for a long time i didnt know it wasnt the best until i changed it haha. i got blinded by it.
spiral quail
eh you usually have frenzy up all the time while mapping
steep trail
yes
spiral quail
the crit multi is actually prolly better for mapping as well so you can one shot the champions etc
spiral quail
crit multi is no question the best 2nd affix though for all content on world splitter. glad people are coming around to it
steep trail
you dont need more
i knew that day one
i see ppl doing builds on maxroll, and i didnt get it
arctic loom
thaats 50% more if you have 100% on relic
you're making me realize that this really has a shit roll lmao
i need to reroll this soooon
arctic loom
nooooo
steep trail
to
9reduction
4% crit
10 attributes
72 frenzy
spiral quail
on a 2 lp?
steep trail
yes
steep trail
dw
i didnt use uniques
i had 3 2 affix legendaries
i used 2 of them to get the roll
spiral quail
love it when nemesis gives 2 affix legendaries
steep trail
yeah, big win
arctic loom
btw what's the target cooldown for anomaly? i can lower it to 8sec + 29%cooldown (T7 affix from suloron). For now i can only set Swiftrest to lvl 2 because of that shitty Shattered Worlds T_T
steep trail
9 secs
arctic loom
ohhhh so im good then
forest basin
You could consider investing 1 point into crit on the erasing strike tree to free up more anom points
steep trail
Nah
spiral quail
do you have a 1% crit shattered worlds
steep trail
You can just put 2 crit and 3 cdr
spiral quail
imagine a 1% crit shattered worlds
forest basin
And symbol points
steep trail
If you don't have cdr on boots
spiral quail
xDxD
forest basin
Uptime on anomaly is the biggest increase in damage you can get for bossing.
arctic loom
yeah @spiral quail crit strike chance needs to be solved first above everything else. so you might want to max it out on world splitter and shattered worlds
arctic loom
Uptime on anomaly is the biggest increase in damage you can get for bossing.
yup. i got 8sec CD anomaly so i think it's enough
spiral quail
oh i was memeing xD mbmb
arctic loom
hahaha
forest basin
8 sec is still 3 sec downtime
steep trail
No
forest basin
3 sec down time on the dmg buff only lasts 5 secs
steep trail
The rest of the way is expensive
You will need to put cdr somewhere
Lp is valuable on es
arctic loom
hitting T7 on vitality and T6 on health would definitely make my mapping easier right?
forest basin
I think it is always move speed
spiral quail
nono go haste!!
arctic loom
if only darkstride outdamages suloron T_T im so lazy switching up equips.
spiral quail
you need to go zoom zoooom
steep trail
You're already zooming
spiral quail
lmao i feel you on that
steep trail
Its darkstride lol
forest basin
Suluron dmg, darkstride zoom
steep trail
I may be a bosser.. idk.. but move speed doesn't appeal to me
arctic loom
hahaha
spiral quail
tbh i'm also a bosser
arctic loom
i only got 157% on my current darkstride
spiral quail
suloron forever
steep trail
I only need 70%
forest basin
Eww that is so slow
steep trail
That's the speed u need to beat the first slam
forest basin
I won't play a char with less than 100% ms
steep trail
Barely
arctic loom
70% is blasphemy @steep trail
forest basin
70% fine for bossing but mapping at that speed is cancer
steep trail
I gotta squise as much juice as possible
I want dmg
I have T7 move speed darkstride for mapping too
Dw
Max rolled
I briked my double T7 move speed vita boots
forest basin
Its so crazy that you can go from 70% ms to 150% by swapping 2 items
steep trail
Ring and boots yes
forest basin
How come alot of builds skip out on the end point giving 10% echo chance for 1 point?
open barn
i fail 6 times t7 x2 immortal vise xD
steep trail
Seems about right
forest basin
Seems like a ton of free damage and the speed loss is barely noticed.
steep trail
How come alot of builds skip out on the end point giving 10% echo chance for 1 p...
Less atk speed
Its ew
open barn
but i cant sustain mana cuz my amulet 3.9 second frenzy
steep trail
If you don't have it on ws it's rough
open barn
u can pick mortal cleave on void knight passive for crit
steep trail
You can get the passive then
open barn
dun even put speed on weapon
open barn
im the only 1 loop guy beat first slam with darkstride xD
steep trail
How much atk speed
open barn
i dono but after evade i cant sustain xD
forest basin
Yeah you can test it when you cast when you proc you get 2 echos and you can see your mana drop
open barn
cant sustain= cant leech more dangerous
ruby tulip
What's the easy way to level Forge Guard? What's the fun way?
steep trail
i dono but after evade i cant sustain xD
Yeah tell me about it
forest basin
I mean when it procs mana does not drop
ruby tulip
Can you level using Smelter's?
steep trail
I mean when it procs mana does not drop
How do you know
open barn
1.7
steep trail
With the hail Mary of echos happening
forest basin
Cast it and watch your mana
When you get a masters proc you get 3 echos rather than 2 and the first doesn't consume mana
open barn
2 loop is god when u are full mana
steep trail
Yeah
open barn
after that gg
open barn
with suloron no prob i think
dusk sequoia
What's "1 loop"
steep trail
Dropped 3 while trying to get 2lp sw @open barn
steep trail
What's "1 loop"
Time loop
open barn
never saw 1 2 lp glvoe from uber yet xD
dusk sequoia
Aah
open barn
i saw alot video with 2 loop, always stuck standing there
i rather standing with mana spamming and leeching, lazy style
steep trail
That's bcuz he doesn't more enough
jovial oasis
Multistrike + smite electrify, or warpath with some form of ailment?
steep trail
Move
steep trail
Ah
dusk sequoia
I have that issue too
open barn
i try with nearly around 1700 mana, still cant sustain
thats y i use exalted echo helmet
spiral quail
exalted echo helmet is low key bis
crude matrixBOT
steep trail
Not unless u have double T7 mana on seed and know how to dodge
open barn
seed for first uber kill, then no more for me xD
spiral quail
ah imagine if the implicit was >100%
steep trail
Bro
spiral quail
71% will do
steep trail
That sw of urs
spiral quail
LOL
open barn
tiem for boring farming
spiral quail
i just saw that
steep trail
Is not legal
spiral quail
the 23% siphon is kinda gross though 😦
spiral quail
that's a pretty digusting siphon
open barn
i have that siphon just havent wash
steep trail
Max roll yes hehe
steep trail
Nice
open barn
so i can play other game
arctic loom
Game says: "No, you wont be getting out"
steep trail
We both bricked some stuff
jovial oasis
@quiet hearth inspire me with a sentinel idea
steep trail
I bricked a 3 lp ws
open barn
ws easier to get
steep trail
Nothing hurtd this much
open barn
i got 9 sitting there
steep trail
3lp?
steep trail
There's no chance you have 9
open barn
its ok ws only need 2 lp
arctic loom
my end game loop right now
Farm normal abby for x20 threshold woven echo
Farm uberroth 20x
Conquered towers until all shatered world LP0s have been consumed
Turtle all LP1+s
open barn
i tut u said 3 ws
steep trail
Nah
spiral quail
farming normal abby is so painful
open barn
that 3 lp is a joke
steep trail
Only 20?
open barn
npc it
steep trail
Rookie numbers
open barn
i farm 68 yesterday while wwathcing movie
steep trail
farming normal abby is so painful
Cutscene simulator
spiral quail
i do my normal abby when i need to do other stuff
arctic loom
Rookie numbers
20 normal abby is the threshold of my sanity. above it, im gonna scream of boredom
arctic loom
dafuq haha
steep trail
I dropped 2lp neck from it
spiral quail
have you guys ever maxed out the web for hte timeline
open barn
bricked 3 2lp neck,jsut need 1 for washing while using my current
spiral quail
+2 skills and +12 res on a 3 LP is god tier
open barn
with 1 bricked lp
steep trail
Washing.. you mean rolling
open barn
yea need 1 spare for reroll
steep trail
Nice
open barn
running out of glove for nemesis again zz
steep trail
Abuse uberoth some more
open barn
xD
arctic loom
one of the best upgrades. still cant get over it. along with world splitter with crit damage multi. uberroth is just getting powdered
spiral quail
imagine the qol when you can go straight to normal abby
wow
that's an insane suloron
gz
arctic loom
2m crits
all of that because i switched from melee aspd to crit multi in world splitter haha. best upgrade ever
spiral quail
at 2m you can prob do uberroth in about... 1m 10s?
open barn
speed is enuff after evade
arctic loom
at 2m you can prob do uberroth in about... 1m 10s?
yupppp faster farm
steep trail
My record was 1:14
arctic loom
first slam he'll only have 64% hp.
spiral quail
i got 59s once but i think i clipped something cause my usual is around 1m 15-20s
open barn
that second phase before third phase is important, if u bait him do range attack, u can down him to 20% shield before 36%hp phase, that will safe alot of time
steep trail
Yeah
arctic loom
im still farming for 3LP titan heart. Julra failed to give me maxhp% on the exalt here
if i get the maxhp% as the third slam, i can lower hp stuff on void knight skill tree and put it on more damage. probably i can get below 1min uberroth speedrun time.
arctic loom
even on prophecies? i got like 4 of em there
steep trail
Never tried
open barn
i have like 4 3lp titan , 3 fail , 1 success
steep trail
I got mine from imprint
open barn
i spam prophecies all drop from there
steep trail
I'll give it a shot
steep trail
Love to chat some more but it's getting late.. gn everyone.. happy farming
open barn
9 am here
arctic wave
dang uber aberroth dropped 2 1 lp vises and a 2 lp bbc
guess ill try out time rot
nvm it has min roll time rot chance lul
tardy mirage
i guess everyone just uses razorfall now instead of soultrons for throwing stuff
the javelin melee conversion only works on flat melee dmg right? so the 100+% melee crit dmg on the exiled mage spear does nothing?
alpine canopy
the javelin melee conversion only works on flat melee dmg right? so the 100+% me...
Right
tardy mirage
thats dumb but makes sense