🔱┃sentinel

[rancid lantern]

i was wondering about a hit hammer build

with 2x kismet

[junior wren]

if you could somehow proc hammer

[north hedge]

full points in block and elemental resist nodes, holy aura/symbols can bump survivability, same with mana to ward affixes

[random thorn]

what do i drop for aura?

[dense tendon]

aura is paladin only

[north hedge]

rebuke is also an option but that's more or less only for one-shot protection (cause it makes you stop spinning)

[spring pollen]

🎉

[vernal frigate]

yooooooooo gzzzzzz

i was here.. 🙏

normal reaction

👍

u good

10000%

will need a source of armor shred now that your gloves wont have one

yeah you will keep getting them dw and slowly upgrade

i have about 3-4 pairs i slammed with increasingly good base rolls

[karmic flare]

Does the warpath throw axes relic have any place in a void knight build?

[north hedge]

no

throw frequency scales with specifically physical damage %

does basically nothing on void/fire

[dense tendon]

maybe if you had t7 physical on your clotho's

and 3 lp on it

[north hedge]

if you're staying full physical then it's fine yeah

granted at that point you're likely to swap to Bleed and Paladin has more bonuses for it

[dense tendon]

oh it's only for dual wielding LMAO nvm then

[north hedge]

also that

[faint scarab]

how does the lostwood folly amber faming strategy even work? i spawned a folly and surrounded it with barnacle king caches and ive cleared every mob on the map in 3 seperate instances and gotten 0 amber

[dense tendon]

barnacle king doesnt work with it

[vernal frigate]

REAL

[dense tendon]

i havent found a single max rolled double mana minor idol
but countless min rolled ones
what's going on ehg?

[faint scarab]

whoops

[junior wren]

you have to pick an echo where regular monsters spawn

[vernal frigate]

yep there is a reason why everyone does shrines

[junior wren]

so boss echoes and special places with no regular enemies won't work

[vernal frigate]

and maybe 1-2 cache map

[junior wren]

yeah, amber price at the vendor 😄

[dense tendon]

i think lizards drop barnacle king echoes cause i have 39 of them

[oblique hinge]

100% sure ill get carpal tunnel with 0 red rings if i slam all these 😦

[junior wren]

set up a macro.. I mean, make your cat push the buttons 😼

[oblique hinge]

[vernal frigate]

its too late imo i think they might just nerf it in 1.3

honestly tombs and cemetery echoes should have given more memory amber

[junior wren]

lemme see if I can do it from memory.. click stash, Shift-click item, press F, Shift-click item, click button in the forge, Shift-click item

[oblique hinge]

to much work. ill just let them sit

[junior wren]

I even used macros in my previous job. We had this app that could press buttons in a certain order, or write a certain text for you after you performed a combo of keystrokes, or started typing a specific letter combination

[upbeat pagoda]

what's the most important roll on this sentinel mains? is it the increased mana or crit chance?

[junior wren]

but you could also let those runes sit there forever 😏

[oblique hinge]

there totally sitting there forever

like my redemption runes

[vernal frigate]

crit chance per mana cost

ur wep is basically fine

but no lp so will have to grind it out or get lucky on your nemesis'

[upbeat pagoda]

ohh ok I see. yeah was looking for 0.5 one

[lament star]

i have found the void

[vernal frigate]

[chilly condor]

is this good enough to slam on a 3 LP World splitter? been farming an exalt for like 5 days now

[sand gorge]

Yeah for sure I mean those stats are nice just hope for the no health on hit lmao

[chilly condor]

aye aye it's 1/3 of being not perfect

[narrow spindle]

For Judgement, what's the stat priority? Mana > Increased Healing > Attunement?

[sand gorge]

That’ll be a sexy world splitter if it hits

[narrow spindle]

Kinda want to throw attunement on my red ring cause I'm stat starved and hard to reach 180 total stats

[chilly condor]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dense tendon]

what does mana do for judgment builds

[vestal mirage]

3lp splitter is wild. Sheesh

Gz beast

That attack speed prob feels soooo good

[cobalt orbit]

grats!

[narrow spindle]

judgement consumes 25% of your current mana, and it deals 2% more damage per 1 mana spent

[rancid lantern]

@junior wren how far did the holy eruption testing get you

[cobalt orbit]

btw, at which corruption is Uber? 1k+ ?

[rancid lantern]

800+ iirc

[cobalt orbit]

ty

[dense tendon]

wtf is this

[sand gorge]

That’s a really nice axe lol

[upbeat pagoda]

so this is good? I'm doing the dash and I feel like I'm not going that far with it like what's the use for this?

[rancid lantern]

you mean on a sentinel build?

its just void pen and swiftness

or fire pen if paladin

[upbeat pagoda]

ohh I thought people were using this soley for the evade is replaced by step lol

[rancid lantern]

nah

they take it for zoomies

if you gotta evade youre moving too slow

[vernal frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXWkGzESY4c it also does this

but yeah just for pen and swiftness

[upbeat pagoda]

the swiftness is nice holy added 30% more move speed lol

[dense tendon]

ive gotten stuck between tomb walls and cages with spirit step 3 times

[vernal frigate]

l0l

[upbeat pagoda]

wait how did you do that? i dod baby leaps

[dense tendon]

but when you dont fail massively it's a good time skip

[upbeat pagoda]

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[vernal frigate]

when you cast a void spell (anomaly)/healing hands dash or attack with erasing strike, depending on where your cursor is, it summons a wandering spirit

the orange floaty guys

then when you evade while your cursor is on them, you swap places with them

you can cover pretty large distances with it but other than that yeah you just do small hops

most of the time its too hectic to keep track of where they are and your cooldown for it

in that uberroth clip i know for sure i havent used anything in 4 seconds, so i can confidently teleport with it. Fire (healing hands) doesnt share a cooldown with anomaly creating the spirit

[spring pollen]

Hey guys, what is the best way to scale flat spell damage for smite? Is there a way to scale it other than staff/wand? Thanks

Specxifically fire

[rancid lantern]

immolators oblation

shield via paladin

[turbid dome]

Some skills like warpath can give extra flat spell damage while using them, so that can scale smite

Paladin has nodes for extra flat spell damage while using a shield

[faint scarab]

what is the 2nd best prefix for Es?

[turbid dome]

You can use a palarus (unique sword) for more flat

[faint scarab]

suffixes are definitely void pen and all attributes but idk about 2nd best prefix

[spring pollen]

Awesome thanks all!

[vernal frigate]

all attributes is a dead stat on a worldsplitter

[upbeat pagoda]

I'm ngl I feel like my es kinda shits on umbral falconer, idk with less gear even, it's a much smoother time with bonks, they die quicker lol

[turbid dome]

Wouldn’t prefix be flat void and crit multi

[faint scarab]

how come

[vernal frigate]

because you need other affixes which scale your damage higher and which dont exist on other pieces of gear

[faint scarab]

ok so what is the 2nd best suffix then

[vernal frigate]

most guides recommend Flat melee, armor shred, void pen, atk speed (not in that order)

[faint scarab]

oh wait

[turbid dome]

I normally get armor shred on gloves

[faint scarab]

yeah armor shred

[vernal frigate]

yeah before you do uberroth then atk speed/void pen is probably best

after uberroth then armor shred, or you can get armor shred on idol

[turbid dome]

Oh right uber gloves are annoying to get with like 2 lp

[vernal frigate]

yeppp

[turbid dome]

Yeah that checks out

[dense tendon]

honestly ive got 4 2 lp gloves

[vernal frigate]

you can go crit multi if you go crazy mode like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm1zVIVCw3k but his other gear is optimised for it, you cant just slap it on and call it a day (eg he has 1823 mana and 32 phys res)

[dense tendon]

he drops like 3 gloves per kill

[vernal frigate]

ive gotten a single 2lp glove in 150 kills

but also cbf egging them i had other gear i wanted to egg

[dense tendon]

did you nemesis and turtle everything though

[junior wren]

I'm at work, so nowhere 😄

[vernal frigate]

yea gg

[lethal pendant]

Seems like getting 300+% shred on splitter is quite a bit more than you'd get on idols and gloves.

[vernal frigate]

yeah

[rancid lantern]

are you considering running 5p in Poious Offering or just cdless 40 mana 1p?

[junior wren]

cdless 1p

[turbid dome]

Yea twohanders and body armor basically always have the biggest number for affixes

Also did they fix the bug where people were randomly getting like 7lp items

Or was that trolls on Reddit

[lethal pendant]

7LP wow that would be crazy

[dense tendon]

it's the same as 4

[lethal pendant]

just a display bug then?

[dense tendon]

i just mean you dont have 7 affix exalted items to use with them
definitely a bug if it's real

111 is 7 so maybe lp underflow on a 3 bit variable or something?

[lethal pendant]

saw both of these posted - one pic was zoomed in though - one 7, one 9

easy to photoshop obv though, so who knows

[ionic inlet]

Visual bug iirc

Says 9 but 4 is still max

[summer crow]

Could be screenshot from around launch of Season 2...

Where there was a bug Weaver's stats was able to be "copied" to regular uniques..

[vernal frigate]

yeah its just a visual bug

either way you cant slam more than 4 affixes (sealed affixes cant be slammed)

@plush orchid how are the kills going

[dense tendon]

i would assume that the items were obtained via a bug and not just dropping at 5+ lp normally

[vernal frigate]

i think you have at least 3 months minimum before next season

but yeah thats fair

[dense tendon]

i cant wait to play the best variation of warpath next season

[vernal frigate]

what would that be

[dense tendon]

i played rogue on the rogue patch

[vernal frigate]

i will never play acolyte or mage

it is illegal to cast spells (unless they are void spells)

[frigid zenith]

thinking of doing a rive-based smite paladin with double palarus and HH - would HH still generate enough ward as an autocast with rive, or would going health+endurance be better?

[turbid dome]

My cycle starts have been

Void Knight -> Void Knight -> Void Knight -> Void Knight -> Void Knight -> Void Knight -> Void Knight -> Void Knight -> Void Kinght

I think I’m missing a vk or two

[faint scarab]

what about void wizard

[turbid dome]

That’s a void knight

[flat valve]

making a vengeance riposte javelin rain forge guard, any suggestion on straigh up phys rain or if I should go electrocute dot with rain?

[vernal frigate]

i went warpath in 0.9.2
blast rain marksman in 1.0
hail of arrows 1.1
shadow beacon/event horizon ES in 1.2

[dense tendon]

was blast rain the one with the detonating mines

[vernal frigate]

yeah

[dense tendon]

yeah i played that after trying to make my own terrible marksman build

[vernal frigate]

i will not be part of the 70%

ye making your own build is hard

[steady yew]

I wish there were more build variety that can perform on every content

[vernal frigate]

well if you want to do over 300c or uberroth

[steady yew]

Had to swap to VK ES cause i wasn't able to do boss on my divine bolt

[turbid dome]

Hey now, 3 people have killed uber void boi on blade dancer

If they can do it on blade dancer, you can make anything work

[steady yew]

even tho i was more tanky but dealt no single target dps

[vernal frigate]

btw its like barely over week 2 so we should expect to see more of other classes

[steady yew]

well saw someone doing normal aberoth on blue gear no idols falconer

in 40s

[turbid dome]

Yeah Thats falconer for ya

Tho critically that isn’t blade dancer

[iron temple]

i farmed all the grear for erasing strike or warpath with my smite paladin. i want to respec mastery but it costs 850k gold. when i respec just all points, it costs 130k gold. does the change of mastery really cost that much gold?

[steady yew]

Ofc it's just a bit sad that you have to change build to do bosses

[vernal frigate]

yes

[turbid dome]

Yes

[steady yew]

yep for me it was over 1M gold

[dense tendon]

are you merchant's guild or something

[iron temple]

fml. no CoF

[steady yew]

you can get the gold back quite fast anyway

[dense tendon]

well we dont need gold for anything else

[turbid dome]

It gets more expensive as you level up moment

Take the gold nodes on the weaver tree and just farm as normal

[steady yew]

just spec some weaver point on gold drop and play that's it

[vernal frigate]

yeah you will be swimming

[steady yew]

the dungeon for chest (havoc rune etc )

[iron temple]

i used gold for runes of removal at the beginnng (not that experienced) so i only have 300k

[echo raven]

Soooo, whats your way of dealing with stuns? I find it pretty annoying getting interrupting during ErasingStrike...

[dense tendon]

i tried the rune chests and i got 0 havoc out of 600 or 800 runes

[turbid dome]

Put 5 points into the anti stun node in base sentinel

[vernal frigate]

i mean where do you get those figures from? (that casuals dropped the game already)

[turbid dome]

Or just kill them before they stun you

[steady yew]

i need havoc rune but they're so damn rare

i did not kill uber and still working on it

[echo raven]

do u use these tho ?

[steady yew]

that's why i went to vk

[turbid dome]

I’m not sure what this is asking

Yes I put 5 points into it so I get stunned less

[echo raven]

Ty then ;D

[vernal frigate]

thats true but there are also other player types, people who are good at the game but have commitments irl so can only get a few hours in a day

[turbid dome]

[vernal frigate]

concurrent isnt always the exact same people on

[turbid dome]

Hey that me

[vernal frigate]

💯

[turbid dome]

Yea

[vernal frigate]

yeah but you said "who do you expect to still be grinding for uber" when theres still 47k concurrent

[worn ledge]

Well, my self-made forge guard build got me to Abberoth, but he spanked me good!

[vernal frigate]

theres other things to do than uberroth

people who play offline too (prob not that many)

[steady yew]

uber or normal?

[vernal frigate]

rn its 36k, 24 hr peak is 47k

[worn ledge]

Just normal. My DPS is lacking for sure.

[lethal pendant]

Steamcharts showing close to 50K concurrent peak playing these days, about 20% of launch. Which might even be normal for other seasonal ARPGs at this point, not sure.

[steady yew]

yeah i feel you did it on smite paladin self made and swapped to divine bolt cause looked fun but no boss dmg

[worn ledge]

Yeah, I'm a forged weapon Forge guard, using vengeance to generate forged weapons. I slog my way through monoliths, where I feel basically unkillable, but takes long.

[vestal mirage]

Based fg enjoyer

[turbid dome]

Bro is the wall

[worn ledge]

And Abberoth is the Kool-Aid man

[steady yew]

stunnedroth

👀

[vestal mirage]

Stun is so op

[vernal frigate]

yes

[steady yew]

still looking for a 2h melee void

[vestal mirage]

Rarely but yeah

[vernal frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sSf7T9cQfA

[steady yew]

Rarelly

[vestal mirage]

I've stunned him out of his slam a few times on uber

[steady yew]

lol

more like 50%

[vestal mirage]

It's pretty rare tho ye

[steady yew]

not on uber

but on normal i stun him like 1/4

[vestal mirage]

I'm using event horizon on a shield basher with t5 stun on it

[vernal frigate]

HOLY

bro they need to lower the lp level of it so its easier for 2lp

actually such a fun weapon

[vestal mirage]

It missed the t6 phys dam unfortunately

[vernal frigate]

and so stupid

i also missed my 2lp slam and got stun chance

did you see my vid on it?

[steady yew]

oh that why i got a bunch of normal but like 1/2 1lp

[vestal mirage]

I did not

[vernal frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smrfhdWPsDY

here

[worn ledge]

My first character was a Shaman who used Gathering Storm for damage, but once I hit empowered monoliths, I just struggled way too hard.

[vestal mirage]

It's probably the safest hc build because every boss outside of Uberroth can't move lol

[steady yew]

well it can kill you

shade instant spawn meteor

if stunned

no animation

[vernal frigate]

yea movespeed and atk speed penalty too

[echo raven]

wtf is ur damage

[vernal frigate]

if you get caught mid swing its joever

[echo raven]

wrong reply link but i just saw this uber

[vernal frigate]

my build planner is in the description

and weapon at thes tart of vid

[vestal mirage]

EH on erasing is so gigachad holy

[echo raven]

u were using event horizon ?

[vernal frigate]

its really fun man...

i have two separate vids, but whatever is in the title i was using

[dense tendon]

would be cool if there was a way to get something like this

[vestal mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480944555567349790/1368455455197757630/20250504-0512-52.7256926.mp4?ex=68199a75&is=681848f5&hm=2a86751cb4f1f6ef4fe8f6146e015e9e422a3880177856ed9158218133b451bd&

[vernal frigate]

unbreakable

[vestal mirage]

T4 julra xd

Why did that not embed

[echo raven]

then ur planner for shadow beacon is event horizon

[tribal basin]

The Pathfinder Ascendency node ?

[turbid dome]

juggernaut core

[vernal frigate]

yeah, i have the shadow beacon at the beginning of the video because its a live planner

[echo raven]

i dont get it, my dmg is nowhere close to urs

i feel like im doing 20% of urs

xD

[turbid dome]

thats juggy's unstoppable node

[vernal frigate]

send me your build planner i can have a look at it @echo raven

[vestal mirage]

Bash pov

[vernal frigate]

oh yea unstoppable not unbreakable

[open sable]

is Forgemaster's Might passive any good? The 10% less attack/cast speed, 20% less damage, and haste no longer giving speed feels like a huge drawback

[echo raven]

u saw it already but sure ;D
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/se7enek/character/Nigdin

[vestal mirage]

Fg gets that and vk gets infinite mana with no drawback smh

[turbid dome]

keep in mind a twohander roughly has twice the stats of a onehander, so your basically swinging one and a half one handed weapons with a shield

[vernal frigate]

ah yep you dont have any armor shred chance and you arent using suloron's

suloron's is disgusting damage boost

[tribal basin]

Even the one node in VK that has a drawback is actually a buff because more mana use = More crit/area with World Splitter

[vernal frigate]

104% crit multi

[vernal frigate]

it looks so clean too with shield bash

such a silly little skill

[vestal mirage]

Fr

[echo raven]

do u think its better to stick to worldsplitter for uberaberroth ? or the +2 from shadowbeacon would be much mroe ?

[vernal frigate]

no bullshit echoes happening

[vestal mirage]

I've been trying to do uberroth with it but I just dont have enough damage

It's gonna be like a 20 minute fight

[vernal frigate]

i decided to go shadow beacon long before 1.2 dropped cos i saw a video on it, and 3lp is way more common than a 2lp ws at the time (now they are pretty much as common as eachother)

[echo plank]

Thought on using Paranoia uniqe helmet over Leonine for Warpath? Flat dmg reduction when moving seems to apply always since well, warpath. But idk how to mitigate crits then XD crit avoidance doesnt seem as reliable as bonus dmg reduction

[vernal frigate]

i dont know if shadow beacon is more dps than WS i was just going for fun
+2 is cool af though, you get 29 points in ES and a lot of "more" damage nodes

[turbid dome]

its a 2 at the start, twohanders have and get twice as big affixes as one handers @open sable

Melee void dmg, on a twohander caps at 119, on a onehander its 65

[echo raven]

yea WS is basically 100 crit multi with 50 void vs +2 with 100 void

[turbid dome]

increased melee dmg caps at 329% on twohanders, 180% on one handers

its just under being doubled for the most part (but then bigger flat implicit dmg boosts it up imo)

[vernal frigate]

flat crit chance too, crit capping is the hardest part on shadow beacon

[echo raven]

oh yeah crit chance is harder to cap too

[dense tendon]

maybe at 3 lp
550 armor might actually be better than 13% dr not sure

[vestal mirage]

@vernal frigate more bash pov

[vernal frigate]

this guy did a zhp 57s uberroth with worldsplitter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm1zVIVCw3k @echo raven

38 phys res, 1823 mana

[echo raven]

xDDD

[turbid dome]

I might have low standards, but 14k ish max hit isn't zhp to me

[echo plank]

ok, thats probably the case. Didnt even realise when i take off my leonine my armor goes down from 60% to 36% reduction lol

[vernal frigate]

yeah i meant more the phys res part but you are right

[vestal mirage]

My leonine with t5 armor% on it doubles my overall armor xd

[vernal frigate]

cos most of uberroths attacks are phys(?)

[echo plank]

thats the case for me XD

[vernal frigate]

but he has 4k hp to compensate too

[turbid dome]

he does a good mix of everything

[vernal frigate]

yeah

[turbid dome]

tho keep in mind, 38 res is only making him take 37% more damage

[vernal frigate]

i dont think he got hit by a single regular attack

[echo plank]

but was excited for 2 LP paranoia because i have T7/T7 mana channeling helmet, but of the worst kind ;/

[vestal mirage]

I can tank his slams easily enough but he has a few attacks that screw me over

[echo plank]

could nicely slam it, but my defences will cry too much

[dense tendon]

he actually doesnt have any non dodgeable physical attacks i think

[vestal mirage]

The ms reduction from horizon is what usually screws me over xd

[echo raven]

btw what do u think would be best base to use as helmet? The one for echo dmg or crit multi ?

[vestal mirage]

At 10 stacks my ms is at like -40% fyi

[turbid dome]

[vernal frigate]

for your first kill 1lp seed of ekkidrasil is good (i used that)

honestly i think echo dmg base is better + blind chance on tree

for max dps

[dense tendon]

it has to be echo damage over crit mult at 1800 mana

[vernal frigate]

but you need immortal vise by then

[echo raven]

yea im using blind thingy already still with seed but trying to find nice fatal helmet

got both relic and vise but yeah lp0/1s

[vernal frigate]

the flat 550 armor from leoninineieneenie helm is really strong

[steady yew]

🥲 missed the 60% void dmg

[turbid dome]

I love how leo hat just gives more armor than all but one body armor for the other classes

[ionic inlet]

Lmao found a bug with symbols of hope with double Sun Seal rings and it's silly cooldown spaghetti

[echo raven]

terror is 300 with extra vit and echo dmg tho. it must be better no ?

[junior wren]

if only the leo helmet wasn't so fugly 😄

[vernal frigate]

[steady yew]

half baked roll but that all i had

[vernal frigate]

yes for dps

[vestal mirage]

You could leverage blind as your crit avoidance, but having a conditional defense isn't ideal

[vernal frigate]

i just said fk it and using 3lp decayed skull with armor shred effect, really common drop like 1 in 72

[vestal mirage]

There's a node in pally tree that gives you blind chance

[ionic inlet]

The reduced cooldown is magically +cooldown for the rings if you're using 2 since the game think they stack lmao

[vestal mirage]

I used that until I got my leonine

[echo raven]

i mean my uberroths kills are usually like 6-7 minutes, which means there is plenty ways of making mistakes

[ionic inlet]

Aka longer cooldown than it should be with just 1 ring

[echo raven]

id prefer to kill it sub3min tho

[vernal frigate]

i hit stash tab gold cap (300k cost per tab?) tryingto farm leonine helms and eternal gloves

[vestal mirage]

My fellow hoarder

[upbeat pagoda]

How big is y’alls erasing strike echo

[vernal frigate]

at least 1

[foggy junco]

getting a good leonine was the hardest thing I've done this season, not uber abberoth

[vernal frigate]

then i throw it all away for a silly ekkidrasil helmet with 1lp

same as gloves for immortal vise

[steady yew]

what about seed of ekki for erasing ?

[dense tendon]

is ekkindrasil actually good outside of rive or something

[steady yew]

as a place holder until leonie

[vernal frigate]

yeah it makes you tanky af if you have a good mana pool

[vestal mirage]

My leonine that I'll prob never replace

[vernal frigate]

even at 850 mana was doing a lot

[lethal pendant]

seed is good but relies on blind passives for crit avoidance which isn't always reliable imo

[steady yew]

well without slam on relic and helm i have 800 mana

[dense tendon]

but you need your mana to play the game?

[vernal frigate]

yeah its basically uberroth only but its pretty decent in <1k corruption

[vestal mirage]

Or just have your ehp so high that crits don't matter

[ionic inlet]

@waxen nymph Was it you and/or goat who played with divine flare spam before?

[vestal mirage]

[steady yew]

divine bolt you mean?

[upbeat pagoda]

I know fub gun def recommend seed cause how much dmg reduction it actually gave you. He gave an example of if you took 100 health dmg, only 5 mana would be drained lol

[rancid lantern]

@junior wren ill give it a test. HH crit + Holy eruption crit should be pretty hefty

[ocean fable]

is symbol of hope or judgement a better relic slam affix? for judgement paladin

[rancid lantern]

@ionic inlet that would be me

[vestal mirage]

I might try seed next time I try ubberoth but I don't have voidwell for mana

[vernal frigate]

no voidwell on ES?

[vestal mirage]

I'm shield bash

[vernal frigate]

oh right right

[rancid lantern]

@ocean fable for what build

[vernal frigate]

does that even run out of mana

[vestal mirage]

Not really no. Not with my current setup

[ocean fable]

judgement paladin

[rancid lantern]

judgement then, 100%

[vestal mirage]

Ill try it out tonight

Only issue will be finding a helm to slam with t7 health

[ocean fable]

I see everyone say that, but I feel SoH has much better nodes to take advantage of

[ionic inlet]

@rancid lantern @steady yew Not to be confused with divine bolt (Symbols of hope explosion) 😅

[dense tendon]

there's no way the 100 health 5 mana math checks out

[lethal pendant]

yeah fubgun was big on seed but his first uber kill was ironically on leonine helm, pretty funny. You can see his gear in that YT uber kill.

[rancid lantern]

I did do symbols yeah

[upbeat pagoda]

Hmm I see. Man imagine crit reduction was on that helm too lol

[vernal frigate]

too op

[upbeat pagoda]

Then it would bis lol

[vernal frigate]

😆

[upbeat pagoda]

Lmao

[rancid lantern]

Its not bad but the lack of crit or flat cripples it.

[vestal mirage]

Or big brain slam t7 crit reduction on it

Ez game

[upbeat pagoda]

It’s just how it’s calculated in this game apparently

[rancid lantern]

if it worked with void and echoes it'd be good at least

butas it is its kinda doa

[upbeat pagoda]

What is doa

[vernal frigate]

my first 1lp peak of the mountain while doing dual wield ES (dr3adfuls build) critted on julrah and slammed crit reduction

was so lucky for early monos

[vestal mirage]

Dang

I have yet to see a slam crit

[vernal frigate]

it depends on the LP level of the thing, peaks and firestarter torches for example are super easy to crit on

[vestal mirage]

I see

[vernal frigate]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/eternity-cache

tunklabs has a calc on it too

for critting

[vestal mirage]

I have a 4lp mountain helm that I need to use eventually but my issue is finding an exalted worth slamming into it

[steady yew]

alright got me confused ty for the info

[dense tendon]

i got crit by a flail slam once

[lethal pendant]

That's gear he had on for first kill. So I guess that was before he realized potential of seed. I mean when he pushed 2000+ corruption he was using seed.

[vestal mirage]

Already having immortal vise on 1st kill smh

Oh

[hybrid turtle]

Lmao basically never gonna happen for the good stuff, oof

[upbeat pagoda]

Imagine immortal AND seed holy mother of god

[vestal mirage]

That was after kill nvm

[vernal frigate]

pretty much..

[hybrid turtle]

Those are some Korean MMO level odds, yikes

[dense tendon]

i got 3 gloves and a relic on first kill

[vestal mirage]

Wtf

[turbid dome]

its so you can have an HELLLL YEAAAHH and confusion for 2 minutes in 5 years

[lethal pendant]

yeah he had some nice drops on that first kill

[vernal frigate]

also he had crazy gear very fast, 2lp ws a few days in, both his rings were perfectly slammed really early, his nihilis is disgusting

got lucky

[lethal pendant]

streamer loot haha

[vernal frigate]

though the amount of people who ahve been asking for build advice after following "fubguns guide" is way too high

and they dont really understand how any of it works, like why you need blind chance, why you use eternal gloves,

darkstride is nice for echoes but i think its a waste for uberroth

pretty sure he swaps it out anyway because his phys res is 155, but players dont see that on a build planner

[lethal pendant]

Yeah Sulorons for Uber so much better imo

[vernal frigate]

yea i tried darkstrides, the inevitable. Sulorons is too good because you can only dodge balls for so long and keep your arena clean for so long.

[finite plover]

Lol i didnt even know it can crit

[vernal frigate]

yeah it got added in 1.2

[hybrid turtle]

It basically can't kekw

[frigid zenith]

that looks almost like the odds of getting the higher LP in the first place

[ionic inlet]

You could reduce the cooldown by 80% (aka Your cooldown/1.8) by being low life, using immolators for self burn to trigger it way faster (You will have 3 - 4 symbols instead of 5 though)
Using 2 Sun Seal rings = Bug, won't give you the cooldown benefit

In theory you could be void and use this tech to also trigger the oblivion wave from the anchor too 😅

[silk wasp]

I could farm multiple 3lp phantoms before ever seeing a 2lp crit an extra stat

Lmao

[rancid lantern]

i did not like that route, i went maximizing gain rate for frequent 5 symbols with 3 repeats

[ionic inlet]

Just a interesting interaction which would be way better if not the 2 rings bugs out the effect of taking damage

[velvet swallow]

Hey guys! I play a Rive VK and I absolutely love it. Now I got my hands on a Shattered World Relic with 1LP. What stat should I put on it?

[vernal frigate]

ooh nice you stuck with Rive, remember you asking a few days ago about what was better to switch between ES and judgement or something

gz on the uber kills

[vernal frigate]

no idea and i never see anyone here who plays rive. Maxroll guide says str + health, probably strength if you are confidently killing uberroth

[velvet swallow]

That was indeed me 🙂 now that I FINALLY got it what on earth am I gonna put on it. I only have one shot at this so I'm thinking Critical Strike Multiplier but I'm not sure...

[turbid dome]

crit multi is always a good choice imo

[vernal frigate]

what do you have on your nihilis currently

[lethal pendant]

Does rive build have 100% critchance like ES?

[vernal frigate]

was about to ask that lol

[turbid dome]

you can get levels to symbols of hope for an extra symbol while also having void sigils symbols

focused strike makes capping crit easy cause you use it and peak of the mountain for capped crit and leeching

you can cap it without focused but it does take more investment

[velvet swallow]

These are my stats on the Nihilis.

[echo raven]

would u use it on lp2 WS or should i look for LP3 ?

[vernal frigate]

looks good

lp3 is too rare imo

[echo raven]

😦

[vernal frigate]

yeah uh that aint happening

😭

[echo raven]

1%? not that bad

oh nvm

[vernal frigate]

what

[echo raven]

xDDD

[vernal frigate]

[echo raven]

If i may ask, whats ur usual approach to trying to change every mod in there?

removals/havocs or just chaos ?

or u dont even bother cuz no desired mods ?

[dense tendon]

i would use redemptions until 0 fp and then throw it on the ground

[echo raven]

;p

[hybrid turtle]

Yep

That's what I do too

[junior wren]

wait, change every mod? 😄

err, i would go drop the actual item I want 😄

[ionic inlet]

Rune of removal and pray

[vernal frigate]

depends on what mods you are trying to go for

[echo raven]

double mana

[junior wren]

I would expect one would start from having at least 1 affix they want, usually the t7

[vernal frigate]

yep 100%

this one is just gambling

[dense tendon]

redemptions are free tho

[vernal frigate]

how !

[junior wren]

free FP 😏

[jovial orchid]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Subtypical/character/Subtypical_Delay What else can I improve to beat uber abberoth I keep dying at 20%

[echo raven]

it looks good enough tho

[frigid zenith]

iirc havoc would keep the affix level positions, so you won't be able to get both the mana as exalted

will probably need a double exalted prefix

[echo raven]

yea, i was usually doing removals/affix/havoc

but that drains fp like crazy

;D

[dense tendon]

why dont es players run like 10 or 15% chance to gain frenzy on echo idols

[frigid zenith]

wish we have MG's money on CoF to run runes/stash money 💀

[echo raven]

cuz u have 100% to gain frenzy on evade

[vernal frigate]

remove all these leech nodes and put them into Dread Form and Sorrow and Steel

[dense tendon]

wait are you actually dodging to frenzy

[vernal frigate]

yes

[echo raven]

yes

[vernal frigate]

its like 2s cooldown for dodging and frenzy is nuts + even more so after shattered worlds

[jovial orchid]

Yeah I could I need the leech because I was dying to dmg over time

[echo raven]

space bar for frenzy, healing hands to actually dodge stuff ;D

[dense tendon]

ye i guess you leech it instantly even if nihilis is 20% hp loss

nice i jinxed it

[vernal frigate]

thats surprising cos you have immortal vise and very high armor as well

siphon is usually enough

[jovial orchid]

Yeah thats what I thought too I even switched my boots for more dr and still die

[vernal frigate]

maybe swap out your boots for sulorons for more damage, not sure what kind of dots are killing you

haha

what dots are you dying to?

[old kiln]

. /brag, lol

[frigid zenith]

btw on an ES VK would it still make sense to run shattered chains if I'm running double red ring

[vernal frigate]

probably not but not sure why you would run red rings on it

[frigid zenith]

doesn't seem like it's worth running the boots too just for the doom proc

just more DR and stats

[vernal frigate]

missing out on a lot of damage i feel

is this for uberroth specifically?

[frigid zenith]

eventually, altho I kinda dislike swapping gears so trying to optimize for the hardest to tackle

[vernal frigate]

i wouldnt personally, nor have i seen an ES buildthat uses red rings at all

[jovial orchid]

I think I might just need like more lp on gear if I had like 700 more life it would be fine

[frigid zenith]

just doom ring + something else then?

[vernal frigate]

your hp is fine i just dont know what dots you are dying to. You could try reslamming your 2lp titan heart with health and then solve the resists somehow but seems more trouble than its worth imo

[dense tendon]

im guessing you dont have enough stats for a single red ring?

[old kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u00Vq-ZhIXQ
melee ward red rings build

[vernal frigate]

unless you are standing in void pools or beams for the whole fight

[vernal frigate]

yep doom ring and flames of midnight ring

or 2lp oceareon

[dense tendon]

what about the 3 lp crab tech

[vernal frigate]

what tech is that

[dense tendon]

oh you need the dodge button

[vernal frigate]

yea

[frigid zenith]

probably not with a single

[jovial orchid]

Yeah I dont know I could be running out of mana

[frigid zenith]

huh oceareon?

[dense tendon]

do you get to 10 shock stacks with ES btw

[vernal frigate]

yeah ez

but its kind of a niche variant, thats why every guide says to go flames of midnight + siphon + belt

[frigid zenith]

the ward from midnight isn't being used much right? is it just for the pen + swiftness?

[vernal frigate]

yep

[jovial orchid]

Yeah I just dont like the evade on abberoth with midnight

[steady yew]

LOL spirit of fire boss and harbringer -> perma stunned did not even move from spawn point

[jovial orchid]

Maybe I should just farm for a shattered world

[hybrid turtle]

It's really nice to have

Just the haste alone is chefs kiss

Also, almost at 1m tooltip on my javelin, aw yiss

[steady yew]

👀 divine bolt intensify

[foggy junco]

Yeah same, I wear flames for mapping and oceareon for abberoth only.

[rancid lantern]

@junior wren So

I found some tech for this build

[turbid dome]

👀

bro just said that and vanished

[rancid lantern]

It's very

very good

[turbid dome]

[rancid lantern]

do you wanna know?

[turbid dome]

yes

[rancid lantern]

👀

[turbid dome]

👀

[rancid lantern]

So i'm cooking an unusual Judgement build

[turbid dome]

unarmed?

[rancid lantern]

nope!

Spells.

and no, not dot

Holy Eruption

[turbid dome]

hit spell?

[rancid lantern]

Yes.

[turbid dome]

oh my

get draven in here

[thick crow]

Anyone have any idea where extra attribute points might be hiding?

I’m trying to make ucenuis sphere work and for the life of me I can’t figure out why I’m at 4 attunement even when removing all gear?

[rancid lantern]

you get 1 from quest.

[stuck shard]

side quest

[turbid dome]

you get +1 all stats from killing the snake god lady

[rancid lantern]

And you probably have some on tree

[thick crow]

Yes found out about that. No issue since it gives both int and att but I’m still 3+ att lol

[turbid dome]

which could mess it up given sentinel just has a bonus attunement at the start (sentinel starts with 2 strength and 1 attunement)

[rancid lantern]

So this would be hit spell HH, hit spell holy aura flame burst, hit spell Judgement and hit spell Divine Bolt because why the hell not.

[turbid dome]

so if you killed snake god lady, with no attunement or intelligence on passive tree or gear -> you have 2 attunement and 1 intelligence @thick crow

[turbid dome]

[ionic inlet]

Flame burst just gets stacks from melee attacks though

[rancid lantern]

indeed

[steady yew]

pretty rare tbf 🥲

[junior wren]

I started with that minus judgement spell hit. Originally I had planned a DW melee divine bolt. I had the flame burst and smite procs and javelin to autocast smites and buff myself. It was good for leveling, and divine bolts are still great for clear, but it wasn't great for bossing

[rancid lantern]

there's tech me and @waxen nymph found

for holy eruption

[junior wren]

let's hear it 😼

[rancid lantern]

if you spec for holy aura, you can forego cleanse/duration decrease

cause if you cancel out the limit of holy aura you auto-expire it

er

Consecrated aura

and then you can go oblation :>

[junior wren]

if I cancel out the limit of holy aura?

[rancid lantern]

You may only have one consecrated aura

so if you smack with judgement twice, you auto-expire the first aura

[junior wren]

oh it procs it instantly?

[rancid lantern]

you dont need to wait

yuuup

[junior wren]

oh my god

[rancid lantern]

YES

[junior wren]

that's amazing 😄

[rancid lantern]

IT IS

I'M HARD

[lament star]

uhm so what do i do with this now

[rancid lantern]

WITH THE FEELINGS OF JUSTICE

[junior wren]

well, time to switch back from judgement meta to my original build 😄

[rancid lantern]

You have graduated to #🔪┃rogue

[junior wren]

make an alt

[lament star]

lol but what build even use that except leveling

[junior wren]

think of it this way

[vernal frigate]

none

[dense tendon]

NEMESIS PLEASE DO IT

[lament star]

free unique stat tho

[vernal frigate]

🙏

[junior wren]

you can take literally ANY body armor, and add +1 to dex skills, haste on hit, movement speed and some dodge rating to it

[rancid lantern]

and since rogue doesnt care about armor

[junior wren]

so pick your best affixes and slam away 😛

[lament star]

time to check what skills use Dex

[rancid lantern]

just grab a bis double t7 or something

any rogue skill

Here it's just throwing skills and lunge i think

[junior wren]

and maybe some weird rive build

[rancid lantern]

nothing you'd want to run on a sentinel tbh

[vernal frigate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1kfckny/at_some_point_you_just_say_fuck_that_and_bail/

holy

[rancid lantern]

lol

[steady yew]

w8 lvl 91

part3 only

wtf is his build

[rancid lantern]

a DIY Auto bomber if i had to guess

[vernal frigate]

might be offline too

like just testing builds i mean

[junior wren]

@rancid lantern problem: +50% mana cost. Solution? Fck it, World Splitter gaming now

[vernal frigate]

wait i have no idea actually

[rancid lantern]

You can forego the non-CD judgement until you can handle that

[north hedge]

me when I did DIY autobombing bleed

[rancid lantern]

but with +4 you can get mana on vengeance

[junior wren]

how would you handle 60 mana/hit with no void well 😄

[rancid lantern]

vengeance HH will carry just fine in between you depleting your mana

for YES amount of damage

[vernal frigate]

wait i posted that link without looking at his build or his lvl or quests, i was just laughing at him getting swarmed by gorgons

and peacing out

[rancid lantern]

i too would peace out

[north hedge]

Might be time for an alt ngl, Frost Blast looking mighty interesting with that unique dagger....

[rancid lantern]

because of this tech

i am now making

a 3rd sentinel

[north hedge]

😅

[silent sage]

how the hell do you tank shit on 600c+ on a Es build.. stuff his so hard lool

[vernal frigate]

import your build to letools and we can help you

[silent sage]

ill pass on that

[vernal frigate]

ok

[silent sage]

ho wmy poe2 account got hacked bc i imported my shit to maxroll

[vernal frigate]

if you are dying at 600c your build is completely wrong

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

you only need your account name and character name

not a password not anything else

[silent sage]

seeing as i follow a build i doubt its totally wrong

[junior wren]

so you're here just to trash talk how stuff is hard, we got it bro

[vernal frigate]

^

[silent sage]

how am i trash talking lol

bc i said it as hard

[junior wren]

think about it for a while

[silent sage]

love the ignore button

[vernal frigate]

man just import your build so we can help

[north hedge]

because you're asking for help but are refusing to provide your character loadout

All people can really say is "sucks I guess"

[silent sage]

i made a statement

[pseudo adder]

do both of these work, can i do sword off hand and a two handed in my main hand?

[junior wren]

Git gud is the correct reply in these situations I guess? 😄

[ionic inlet]

No

[vernal frigate]

this is all you need to do sir/ma'am

[silent sage]

still dont care

[vernal frigate]

holy

[silent sage]

no diff then maxroll

[cursive python]

"My acct got hacked" is probably just a lie/excuse.

[silent sage]

im not importin shit

[vernal frigate]

you are insane if you think you got hacked by doing this on maxroll

[silent sage]

really wan tto see the email to ggg?

[cursive python]

Probably got hacked for RMT

[silent sage]

i guess ill just make up random shit for giggles

[junior wren]

your email to someone doesn't prove anything 😄

[silent sage]

dip shits

you act like ggg hasnt had breachs before

[cursive python]

I've played POE1 since it came out and never been hacked. Gonna press 🇽 to doubt.

[silent sage]

do some goggling kid

[ionic inlet]

Maybe missing something or can upgrade something, it's popular and if you can find perrythepigs items he did it to 900c with ease last time I watched.

[silent sage]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/stolen-path-of-exile-2-admin-account-used-to-hack-player-accounts/

[sleek zealot]

you know it's bad when even doge can't help

[cursive python]

https://tenor.com/view/david-goggins-gif-6261169293039948467

[silent sage]

well it never happened to me must mean cant happen.. typical closed minded reply

[pseudo adder]

honestly who cares your passwords and usernames are already on like 50 different websites, just use different passwords and mails for everything

[vernal frigate]

this has to be bait

[sleek zealot]

probably some kind of psyop

[pseudo adder]

breaches are everywhere

[junior wren]

just your average swamp dweller on steam forums honestly. I've seen worse

[silent sage]

ok sure guy

[cursive python]

Or people just make excuses for things all the time instead of taking accountability or putting in the work... much more likely

[analog steppe]

easy enough to just block and move on haha

[silent sage]

so many cucks in here

[sleek zealot]

bro, you're the one hard stuck 600c

[silent sage]

did i say i was stuck?

i said shit hit hard

thats it

[faint scarab]

actually is this an ai

then leave

goodbye

[silent sage]

then block me

[sleek zealot]

No one is forcing you to stay here

[silent sage]

🙂

[junior wren]

maybe it's time to invoke <@&1161418687471956101>

[faint scarab]

you got better shit to do

[faint scarab]

right?

[north hedge]

Tbf you didn't just say it's hard, you said "How do I tank, it's hard" 🙊

And then refuse to show your build

[silent sage]

again a fking statement

[sleek zealot]

Yeah, that sounds fairly stuck to me

[north hedge]

There's a literal question in your first statement but okay, you do you

[silent solar]

I got the Red Ring of Atlaria 0LP, wondering which to replace, flames of midnight or anguish... hm

[vernal frigate]

what buildare you running?

[faint scarab]

you cant replace anguish

[sleek zealot]

If you had to, I'd do midnight as you really want siphon shattered synergy

[faint scarab]

its your source of doom

[silent solar]

Anguish seems too good replace

ya

[vernal frigate]

and you probably wont have enough stats for red ring DR

[silent solar]

Erasing Strike.

[dusty star]

how much tooltip dps do i need roughly for endgame content?

[sleek zealot]

On Erasing Strike you're griefing yourself too hard getting rid of siphon

[faint scarab]

you can swap out flames pretty easily

[vernal frigate]

tooltip is not a great measure of dps, you can import your build to letools and we can help you figure that out or what to improve on

[cursive python]

Really depends on build and corr level

[faint scarab]

warpath too, you need doom

[sleek zealot]

I was wondering this too, even with Shattered Worlds it's kind of tight

[silent solar]

Good point, need to check that.

[sleek zealot]

ES doesn't stack stat super hard tbh

Which is why midnight is a fairly good recommendation

[faint scarab]

ngl i prefer the symbols ring

saves you from the oneshots

[sleek zealot]

I've seen some folks run that oceanron one too

[faint scarab]

and then you just run around waiting to get 5 symbols again

[sleek zealot]

It's good, honestly.

You really just want the maxroll DR

[keen radish]

Just so you know everyone's character is automatically in Le tools through an API, it doesn't have any of your account information and importing manually doesn't take any account information besides the public username either

[faint scarab]

why? seems like 17% void pen is better than 12% dmg (only when you fully stack) and 4% dr

[sleek zealot]

Now that I have the uber gear it probably will feel kind of nuts with all of the other dr sources

[junior wren]

and for offline enjoyers, you just upload the savefile 👍 that part of LETools is beautifully done

[vernal frigate]

some people ive seen tend to dislike the evade (i like it personally, also got unlucky on 2lp oceareon slams)

[lethal pendant]

Finally had time to watch this after work - he slammed almost 160% crit multi on splitter, runs shred on both echo idols, and changed blessing to void dmg instead of crit multi, and it mathed out to more dmg apparently.

[rancid lantern]

Praise @keen radish

[faint scarab]

its awkward but i think its superior to base dodge because you can dash through beams/hazards and not get hurt

[cursive python]

I appreciate you, Cyborg, but this person was clearly not here for rational discussion or help.

[vernal frigate]

not sure what delay you are talking about

[ionic inlet]

Evade feels so good now, I hate to use a haste ring which is great

[sleek zealot]

that's insanity

[vernal frigate]

ah yea for spirit step

dunno, i just got used to it

[junior wren]

yeah the delay is noticeable, but you can adjust to it

[sleek zealot]

Same, the spirit step feels weird but I just got used to it

[faint scarab]

i dont get echo idols, i sat next to a training dummy for 10 mins testing a 140% roll one and saw no increase in my dmg whatsoever

[vernal frigate]

i quite like the wandering spirit place swap too

[faint scarab]

i was just standing still, hitting es, comparing dmg to echo then wait for debuffs to run out repear

[junior wren]

I'm a crab ring enjoyer so no delay for me 🦀 (and no dodge )

[faint scarab]

echo dmg never increased

[north hedge]

kinda wish I could get more movementspeed on the bleed WP build.... almost the perfect braindead build

[vernal frigate]

[junior wren]

I use crab for everything 😄

[vernal frigate]

wow many play styles in this game !

[turbid dome]

Crab gang

[lethal pendant]

The vid Kebin posted with the guy doing a 57sec uber kill I guess is the ultimate test of the changes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm1zVIVCw3k

[junior wren]

crab is the budget red ring. all stats? check. HP Regen? check. DR? (Armor) check. 😏

[faint scarab]

i havent died in so long and its because of the sun ring autocasting symbols to save me

[vernal frigate]

sorry completely forgot to reply, yeah its pretty insane

[dusty star]

i think i imported my build to letools correctly? its just the profile link with the list of my characters right?

[vernal frigate]

yeah

and post the link here

[lethal pendant]

I guess I'll change things up on my splitter to go crit multi if I get another 2 or 3 LP this century haha

[vernal frigate]

this is mine for example

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/KebinTea/character/SentinelStew

[cursive python]

There really are. I was thinking about this yesterday, actually, and realized the fundamental reason I enjoy this and absolute hate POE2 (despite loving POE1).

GGG looks at aggregate player data and uses that to inform drop rates with consideration for economic impact. This is why certain chase items are nearly unreachable for your average player.

EHG looks at individual player experience and asks how to facilitate any sort of SSF build a player may want to do, even if they have to work a bit for it.

It's absolutely night and day.

[junior wren]

mmm, stew 😋

[vernal frigate]

yeah its definitely super tuned for dps but im sure he dies in 1 or 2 hits

lool its cos of this cat

[junior wren]

that reminds me I need to go shopping, brb 😄

[dusty star]

Got it. this is what i have so far. it feels great (everything almost insta pops and i cant die), but idk the direction to aim for from here

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/h4344/character/Houthi_D_Luffy

[cursive python]

The other half of this equation is that GGG puts character power and build options mostly behind items. EHG puts it mostly behind skills, with some items helping to enable or enhance them.

[vernal frigate]

his name is Stewly so I named my char SentinelStew (also apopular twitch emote called :erm )

[open sable]

For Javelin's Divine Fury node, do the minimum 2 Lightning Spears if no other enemies are nearby hit the original target?

And same Q with the minimum 2 Piercing Spears from Sierpin's Fractal Tree spear?

[junior wren]

that's a good backstory actually

[vernal frigate]

that name LMAO

[dusty star]

@vernal frigate 😉

[cursive python]

This is why LE is so much more alt friendly.

[faint scarab]

bro your char names..

[dusty star]

i have issues okay

[cursive python]

You don't want to see mine... lol

[faint scarab]

i think i know what kind of issues

[dusty star]

the best kind 😄

[vernal frigate]

its fine, any judgement pallies able to look at his build and give tips? the only tips i can give is to look at a maxroll guide cos i dont know how the build works

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-paladin-guide

[cursive python]

I should roll a judgment pally just to RP as super judgmental in game chat.

[dusty star]

im kinda just aiming for max tooltip dps atm, max tank, and thats about it. dont think ive learned alot of mechanics yet cause im only on monolith #2

[vernal frigate]

am of the same opinion. Its really nice and you put it really well 👍

[faint scarab]

tooltip dps is decent but its specifically terrible with crit so dont trust it on that

[turbid dome]

Don’t use tooltip dps

Use the training dummies at champions gate

Tooltip doesn’t account for a lot of things

[faint scarab]

what else does it not account for

[vernal frigate]

i hope ehg add a way to see your actual crit in game, i have helped too many people calculate their crit (which i dont mind) but would be nice

[cursive python]

Let's see... some of my more tame character names...

• Pwimalisp
• RuneMasterRace
• ClimateDe-Nihilism
• Caffiend
• ObeseMaster
• OneofFive (Sentinel)

[jovial orchid]

Well I upgraded to a shattered worlds and still cant kill abberoth i might just be hopeless

[turbid dome]

Its estimated so like it’s just wrong sometimes

[faint scarab]

i mean

i was moreso asking what specific stats

[turbid dome]

I think warpath when void converted was still getting tooltip damage from %increased phys dmg

Did that get fixed

[ionic inlet]

[faint scarab]

i dunno but i think its a no brainer not to use phys increases on your void dmg build

[ionic inlet]

#Tooltips

[turbid dome]

Yea

It’s just the most recent of example of why I say to go hit the training dummies

Also if you don’t have armor shred go get armor shred

assuming it’s a hit build

[vernal frigate]

armor shred is so nuts, the tunklabs graph really put it into perspective

didnt know it was MORE damage

[pastel ferry]

I should get a source of armor shred

[north hedge]

DoT enjoyers unite

[cursive python]

Anything that reduces enemy defenses is "more" damage

This is because it operates something like:
[Your total damage] * [Enemy total mitigation value]

So when you reduce their defenses, you reduce that ETM value, which acts as a multiplier for your dealt damage.

[turbid dome]

For non phys, 30 stacks of armor shred is 33% more damage

I forget what it is for phys, I think it’s like 40%?

[bitter heron]

Anyone got a link to an endgame warpath I can follow? Hit 175 corruption and decided I wanted to follow a guide

[turbid dome]

I think Maxroll has a decent starter guide for endgame warpath

But that’s also dependent on which warpath variant your playing

[bitter heron]

I open to anything what would you recommend? I enjoy warpath

[cursive python]

Voidpath is very easy to understand/scale

[turbid dome]

Yeah

Void warpath is just get as much smack them in the face damage as you can

There’s also smite trigger warpath which scales spell hit

The main problem with the void knight smack them one is that the best weapon for it is a weavers item so you gotta just keep getting them until your get good weaver rolls

[cursive python]

The nice thing is that the weaver tree and COF can help with this

[turbid dome]

but it’s really really good because you basically cap your parry chance

[turbid dome]

True

[bitter heron]

Thank you so much for the assist on this I will take a look at maxroll

[vernal frigate]

warpath has come far since i played it first in 0.9

0lp apathy maw gaming

[quiet hearth]

now if only we could get more than like 30 parry

[dense tendon]

you definitely dont cap your parry chance even if the weapon rolls parry on it

[turbid dome]

good luck and have fun, if you have questions this chat is very helpful

[dusty star]

not sure how to read overall dmg with the training dummies but my judgement aura ticks do 17121 dmg

[turbid dome]

You get closer than you ever could before

But fair point

[north hedge]

subdivided into bleed and non-bleed also, also ignite warpath, also flame burst warpath, also also...

[dense tendon]

you also lose singular purpose damage if you go >=30% despite the conversion

[turbid dome]

?

Singular purpose doesn’t do block anymore

[cursive python]

Dummy is kind of limited in use without dps meters, tbh. I wish they would add it--even if it was only for the dummies.

That said, seeing your damage patterns through your rotations and comparing to other adjustments in your build is the best you got. Just have to kind of "eyeball" it

[dense tendon]

wdym

[jovial orchid]

Anyone know how to not run out of mana on abberoth in the last phase with erasing strike like I have 1400 mana and still go to 0

[turbid dome]

I can’t read

I thought it was the old less block chance it had on it you were talking about

[ionic inlet]

29% block chance gaming

[dense tendon]

im stuck at 27% 😞

[pastel ferry]

how much resistances does bosses have normally

namely harbas and abbe

[cursive python]

Parry =/= Block

[turbid dome]

Should be 0 same as their armor

Enemies just get DR

[ionic inlet]

They have 0 resistances

[turbid dome]

The sword we’re talking about converts block to parry chance

[cursive python]

Gotcha

[turbid dome]

And I guess that node counts block before the convert

[dense tendon]

idk if this is a bug or intentional tbh

[pastel ferry]

hmph, that makes 17% void pen not as avaluable as I thought

[cursive python]

Res Pen is always good tho

[ionic inlet]

Pen is amazing

[vernal frigate]

you can go over 100% pen too

[analog steppe]

just think of penetration as "more damage" but one source rather than multiple sources

[turbid dome]

17% pen = 17% more damage

That’s BiG

[north hedge]

resistances can go into negative values, so it's also a damage gain

[cursive python]

If an enemy has 50% res and you Pen 25%, you effectively add 50% to your damage.

[pastel ferry]

yeah I'm aware

[ionic inlet]

Does crit multi take your normal damage you would do and just multiply it at the end?

[turbid dome]

Crit multi is a more multiplier

Yes

[ionic inlet]

That's good to know

[vestal mirage]

If I linked my basher would you be able to give me tips on how to get more pen? I feel like it'd help with my damage

[pastel ferry]

That does have one unfortunate side effect, I have to farm yet another multi LP harby exclusive item

[turbid dome]

[north hedge]

or do what I do and start planning out alts

[ionic inlet]

Go for it drew

[vestal mirage]

Hitting a dummy for over 2m bashes but abby more like 200k

[pastel ferry]

got first time abby kill today

managed to get to the fight without seeing the fight beforehand

[vernal frigate]

nicee

[turbid dome]

The damage formula is

(Skill base damage + your flat damage) * (increased 1 + increased 2 + increased 3….) * more1 * more 2 * more 3…. = damage

[vestal mirage]

Gzgz

[pastel ferry]

so I just yoloed in blind

[turbid dome]

Crit multi is another more so it goes there

[pastel ferry]

Crit multi is how ever additive, similar to increased dmg with itself. Whiile its multiplicative with others

[turbid dome]

Yea

[ionic inlet]

Amazing

[turbid dome]

Add up all your crit multi-> then that number is a more multiplier

[vestal mirage]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BOj4N4JQ

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (70) / Paladin (18)

General:

▸ Health: 3,285, Regen: 70.2/s
▸ Mana: 196.57, Regen: 13.76/s
▸ Ward Retention: 31%, Regen: 17/s
▸ Attributes: 128 Str / 8 Dex / 8 Int / 13 Att / 22 Vit
▸ Resistances: 128% / 72% / 73% / 115% / 84% / 87% / 75%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 944
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (32)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 77% (9,776)
▸ Block Chance: 98%, Mitigation: 68% (4,469)

Used skills:

Healing Hands / Shield Bash / Rebuke / Symbols of Hope / Ring Of Shields

[pastel ferry]

sum of inc * product of more 😉

[turbid dome]

[dense tendon]

bro what

[pastel ferry]

dang yo

[vernal frigate]

holyyyyyyyyy

[turbid dome]

That’s a very nice world

[vernal frigate]

now shatter it

[turbid dome]

Watcha gonna slam

[turbid dome]

Wait no!

[pastel ferry]

Vaal or no balls

[turbid dome]

My favorite Netflix series has 3 more episodes to go!

[pastel ferry]

oh wait wrong game

[dense tendon]

i hope i got a 120 mana relic in my stash

[pastel ferry]

Is there anything I can do to affect abby's loot drops

[vernal frigate]

hope it crits 🙏

[pastel ferry]

as in should I spam my keys out

[dense tendon]

i havent crit once is that even real

[vernal frigate]

its too rare to crit haha

depends on lp level of the unique

[cursive python]

The general basics of how this game does things (with some exceptions) is roughly like this:

Base damage comes from your weapon/spell, maybe some extra from skill trees or passive trees.

"Increased damage" is all added together and comes from gear and passive trees.

"More damage" is all multiplied separately (before crit, as I understand it) and mostly comes from skill trees, but sometimes item effects or passive tree. This also includes conditional bonuses such as "vs Blinded."

"Crit damage"--assuming you land a critical hit--applies at the end of the player side of damage calculations; mostly comes from skill trees and items. Dots cannot crit as they do not "hit."

Armor/Resist Shred apply to the enemy and calculate after everything else so far. This is usually on items or skill trees.

---

This means the easiest scaling to chase is base damage, more damage, crit, and shred.

{Note: Basic Damage Outline -- for easier search later, if needed.}

[lament star]

🤔 has anyone done a bleed paladin with high end threshold ?

[vernal frigate]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/eternity-cache

[cursive python]

Feel free to correct me if this generalization doesn't seem true.

[junior wren]

I'm back, did you guys help Luffy? 😄

[vernal frigate]

not sure if this is true or not, but saw someone on reddit say they ran unique blessing + amulet blessing and was getting 1 nihilis every 2.5 abby kills

[vernal frigate]

not that i saw :(

[pastel ferry]

why can't I open it

[jovial orchid]

Yeah maybe on cof

[turbid dome]

Crit does come last but since it’s another thing that works as a multiplier, math wise it’s the same to consider it as a more multiplier

Tho your earlier clarification that you add up the crit multi is a good thing to add and it’s not each instance of crit multi acting as an independent more multiplier

[vernal frigate]

try going back out to endof time and back to shattered road or whatever that place is calledi forgor

[pastel ferry]

ah 4th time the charm

[vernal frigate]

if that doesnt work relog

[pastel ferry]

idk did I bug out on the 1st fight I had

[junior wren]

Aim to be the Greatest Healer of All Time!

[pastel ferry]

I only had initial bosses spawn

[junior wren]

..and by that I mean stack % Increased Healing Efficiency

[turbid dome]

[dusty star]

@junior wren can i charge them $100 for a bandage while i do it? 😄

[jovial orchid]

Yeah I honestly don’t know how people kill Uber abberoth. No matter how much gear I farm I can’t beat it

[junior wren]

you can try 😄

[vestal mirage]

He's hard. Takes practice to learn it and the last bit you kinda just have to heal through

And it REALLY helps if you have a way to cleanse

[cursive python]

Uber Abby is basically a question: Are you OP?

[ionic inlet]

What if you took the shred here instead of block

[junior wren]

yeah I think you can summarize it in two bits:

• you either become godlike at avoiding taking damage
• or you get enough survivability to take some damage, heal it back really fast, and also do some of the avoiding

[pastel ferry]

oh lol I died tto the beam, it was not even aiming in that direction at all... does it snapshot at beginning or can I trust the indicator

[jovial orchid]

Yeah I have cleanse but like I just can’t beat the last phase where he puts down 100 pools and deletes all your mana

[vestal mirage]

Hmmm

[turbid dome]

Bring a last laugh in your backpack and swap to it for the 20% execution threshold

[vestal mirage]

I already have 50+ shred stacks on abby at all times

With the hammer and anvil passive in the fg tree

[ionic inlet]

Probably also try to get armor shred effect on your helmet, it's huge

Instead of vitality

[turbid dome]

Double check the tunk lab page for shred

[vestal mirage]

Shred after like 50 stacks falls off in effectiveness

[turbid dome]

That affix stops being useful after like 40 ish stacks

[vestal mirage]

I think phys pen is what I need but idk how to get it

[turbid dome]

Weapon affix or amulet affix

[vernal frigate]

event horizon

[turbid dome]

True

[lilac sparrow]

i think i experienced a bug

[junior wren]

rive

[ionic inlet]

More is better, does something. You're already capped in block chance anyway

[lilac sparrow]

does anyone here experienced entering tomb then suddenly die without anyone hitting you at entrance

[vestal mirage]

Does horizon have enough pen by itself?

[turbid dome]

More pen is always better

[junior wren]

no, but i experienced invisible enemies 😄

[turbid dome]

*assuming it’s not replacing something else that’s important

[lilac sparrow]

yeah the one who killed me isnt even on the map

like wdf

[jovial orchid]

Yeah I die in his ward phase