#🔱┃sentinel

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crude star
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I’m still kinda new

golden dove
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i rerolled cof

quiet hearth
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Gold starts raining down in emp monos, especially if you have the gold boosting stuff in weaver tree

cursive python
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I mean, I farmed 1m in the last couple days while leveling a VK (COF)

crude star
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I might have to do that route

golden dove
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MG isnt new player friendly at all, i always reccomend starting COF

cursive python
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Same

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I actually think it's not even great if you know what you're doing either tho

crude star
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Three days ago

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I just wished I had friends to play it with

cursive python
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Because that knowledge is more powerful and impactful in manipulating weaver/prophecy/echo rewards for stacking effects and huge loot-splosions

golden dove
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yeah its not populated enough to really have good items to spend money on. uniques sure but exalted shopping is so pain

quiet hearth
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MG is for people who dont want to bother grinding their loot, I use i all the time for uniques and bases to craft

cursive python
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I also don't like that the two factions should be exclusive. I think it would be enough if you just kept the ranking system and the items tagged with the factions, but let you use both

crude star
tawdry surge
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I started with CoF as a new player and didn’t really know what I was doing. MG has made it so much easier. Now that I’m comfortable, I’ll probably go back to CoF on a new character.

golden dove
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Im gonna be honest man im pretty burnt on helping new players lol, if you have some questions ask them here but my dms are packed from hand holding new folks

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i just wanna play

cursive python
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There's also lots of guides

golden dove
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yeah plenty of content out there to learn the fundamentals

quiet hearth
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the in game guide also has a ton of good info

cursive python
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There's lots of info on Youtube and Maxroll as well

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And can always ask in-game chat

golden dove
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as far as learning market.. play a cycle of cof and you'll figure out whats rare, whats desired, what the meta is etc

cursive python
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Try a bunch of builds too

quiet hearth
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if you are NA, do NOT ask in game chat, for your own sanity

cursive python
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Best way to learn what people look for

tacit zealot
# crude star I just wished I had friends to play it with

Playing with friends only makes content a lil harder scaling off how many additional players personally outside of the social side and a lil boost to loot there's not much of an advantage for party play ATM it's more a "fun mode" rather than functional

cursive python
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Well, if both players carry their weight, it's actually easier

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Less total health relative to player dps

tacit zealot
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Everyone wants to just zip through to end of monos with a million speed

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Resonances although I can see their use it's awkward asf

crude star
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So should I start with woven and then

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Cof

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Should I change to cof

cursive python
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You can do both

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Woven can always be used

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COF and MG are mutually exclusive

quiet hearth
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if MG/CoF dont feel good, switch to the other you save your progress, weaver is always there

tacit zealot
# crude star Should I change to cof

I've never once been in mg despite kinda knowing the market a little only ever CoF and I've got a bunch of 3lp items but only 3m gold so the fact You HAVE to sell items in order to make enough to buy items turns me off mg

lilac sparrow
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@harsh nova what do you think of this

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it looks good imo

crude star
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Is there a video about cof

cursive python
crude star
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I just need to learn the basics so I can stop asking people bec if I do keep doing I feel bad

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I really need to understand crafting in this game

cursive python
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COF and crafting are pretty different topics

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And you should definitely watch videos about crafting

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It can get pretty in depth

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For COF, the basic idea is simple: Gain exp for favor, spend favor on lenses/gear/prophecies, and you will rank up which provides passive benefits

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Those benefits help you with your loot farm

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Lenses and Prophecies are part of the Observatory and you just interact with the various telescopes to see them

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It's relatively self-explanatory once you interact with them, tbh

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But lenses can influence the prophecies that show up when they reroll

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If you want to rank up fast, maximize your exp gain/hr

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One way you can do this is by taking increased pack size nodes on your weaver tree

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Or increasing rare/champion encounter rates

crude star
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Okay bet

cursive python
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As you progress through the monos, you'll notice certain reward types show up on the echoes. You can influence this on the weaver tree, but you also become familiar with what to expect in those echoes and what kind of prophecies you might want to target

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For example, if you play an elemental caster, you might notice that one of the early ranks of COF makes it so that if a set item drops, all the pieces of that set also drop

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Combine this with a prophecy that targets set items in particular, and you can find a set that helps you level

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Several sets have useful pieces for elemental builds in particular

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Though it isn't limited to just that

crude star
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Okay

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One more thing when

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I crtl+alt an item I don’t see t7 or anything is there a setting I need to turn on

cursive python
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Yeah, there's a setting to always show tiers

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And ranges of tiers

crude star
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What’s the setting I’ve been trying to find it

tranquil plume
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guys can i trade here?

cursive python
junior sable
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Is there a better clotho farm than speed running lostwood?

peak scroll
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No

tacit lily
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why does erasing strike want strength?

junior sable
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4% damage per point

modern ocean
lilac sparrow
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You can earn much more money hunting tombs for idols than selling off lp3 items

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As it's much easier to do so

quiet hearth
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That and no dupe helped too

turbid dome
junior wren
shrewd solstice
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Hello, I'm new to the game and following Fubgun's VK Erasing Strike build. His build includes a loot filter related to CoF. Can someone help me get the MG loot filter?

cursive python
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Anyone know what the crit dmg bonus enemies get vs you is?

twin patrol
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Is Erasing Strike a viable build with controller?

cursive python
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Why wouldn't it be?

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It is violence against health bars. It doesn't even do damage.

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Just pops them out of existence.

cobalt orbit
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finally...reached end game.

cursive python
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What is "end game" to you?

west dock
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Es tooltip ofc

cursive python
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I just now cracked Emp Monos

cobalt orbit
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Abberoth, UberAb, 1k+ corruption?

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i hope i manage to do all 3 😄

cursive python
shrewd solstice
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2k?

west dock
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Normal aberroth is not end game this season , this hoy was nerfed to the ground

cobalt orbit
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will try if i find a way to increase it by more.

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also 110% movement speed is insane.

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so, Uber and 1k is considered end game?

upbeat pagoda
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is there an efficent way of farming stability or?

vernal frigate
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like heartsteeker iirc

vernal frigate
nocturne tinsel
nocturne tinsel
dense tendon
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max rolled everything lmao

nocturne tinsel
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noice!

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missing 1% all resist on mine ><

vernal frigate
echo raven
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How can i calculate my crit chance from all sources? Like i wanna know how much crit do i have from WorldSplitter+SymbolsOfHope and other sources?

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Do i just manually sum it up from all sources or is there any better way ?

nocturne tinsel
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no clue tbh but there are sites were they fetch your character info and have some stat info you can look at like EHP and stuff

echo raven
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lastepochtools or any other "sites" ?

nocturne tinsel
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lastepochtools is the one i was thinking about yeah

vernal frigate
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if you import your build to lastepochtools i can help you

echo raven
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By "import" u mean my char profile or sth more than that ?

vernal frigate
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yea

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just ur profile

echo raven
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dont mind the relic, cant find lp1

paper coral
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dual wield motherfucker. im gonna stop for tonight but rn, i got my best pair of swords

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just use it against boss by throwing a shield and it kills

vernal frigate
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Base 5% + 15% from worldsplitter + 6% from ES tree + 4% mortal cleave + 5% relic ) * (100% + 60% symbols + 96% from idols + passives) to calculate

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76.8% crit chance

paper coral
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tomorrow i'll get to blood frost and death timeline

tacit zealot
vernal frigate
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you want to remove these from anomaly and put them into crit chance @echo raven

echo raven
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(assuming i move all 5 points)

paper coral
vernal frigate
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uh wait i didnt see you have relic, 1 sec let me do it again

paper coral
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i might change it later but for now, it's melee and throw

tacit zealot
echo raven
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so 89% ye ?

vernal frigate
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yeah 89.6

paper coral
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i dunno supernatural sry

tacit zealot
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You're not missing out on much lol

echo raven
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so simple as that, if i add somewhere 40% crit chance (like on ring or sth), i would have 100% crit chance

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cuz 35% base x 300% (comparing to my current 254%)

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do i even profit from having over the 100% ?

vernal frigate
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yep you need 30% inc critchance somewhere (you are at 256% rn)

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and no

echo raven
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i see, since my anguish is pretty crappy i think ill try to get better one

vernal frigate
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are you aiming for super optimised build or just having fun

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because my advice would be different depending on that

echo raven
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i noticed that after i dumped my devouring orb i sometimes dont have void essence stacks

junior wren
echo raven
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and was wondering if thats cuz of low crit chance

vernal frigate
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yep it is super important to have

echo raven
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or just unlucky

vernal frigate
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thats why devouring orb is on every ES build

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i would drop abyssal echoes for it

echo raven
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but if im around 90% crit chance, i should generate void essences no ?

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trying to find a point that generates void essences from crit and now i cant find it ...

vernal frigate
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you are at 68% chance to create one on a crit

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its on ES tree

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but if you put another point in that you will lose more MORE damage sources

echo raven
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oh yeah so wouldnt it be better to just add there 1 more point

vernal frigate
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you can take this out i guess

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because you get void shred from anomaly

echo raven
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do i ?

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idk maybe im asleep now but i cant find anything rn

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XD

vernal frigate
echo raven
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oh yeah

vernal frigate
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wouldseriously consider removing these and putting them into cooldown recovery speed, lingering effect and crit

echo raven
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i wonder, for specifically fighting uber aberroth, would u keep the "mobile time bubble" point or would u make it stationary but bigger ?

vernal frigate
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mobile

echo raven
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kk

vernal frigate
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on everything even not uberroth

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he dashes a lot you haveto change position a lot

echo raven
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yea propably ure right

vernal frigate
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theres no way anyone is fighting in the same spot for more than 3s

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you can probably swap your boots out for suloron steps, the crit multi is insane

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and inevitable doesnt work unless you are mid swing for the less damage taken

echo raven
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yeah working on that currently, inevitable i have only cuz of vitality to cap my res

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still working that out

vernal frigate
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i c

echo raven
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losing poison/necrotic if i swap boots but actually i could

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also for uberroth im usually using darkstrides for that extra void cleave charge

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but yeah suloron is my endgame goal once i get enough phys res

vernal frigate
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am not a fan of void cleave after 1.2, healing hands is much better

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before 1.2 it was used toguarantee your next ES strike to be a crit

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but you have built around being crit capped and your grand idols reflect that as well

echo raven
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is good tho

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and there was this thing that next ES deals more dmg

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cant find it now

plucky brook
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@hybrid turtle vit instead of str but honestly we take those

vernal frigate
plucky brook
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now i just need the idols

echo raven
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i kinda like that "combo"

vernal frigate
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thats fine then if you like it, it does look cool

echo raven
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and for just movement skill ofc the healing hands is better

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and the immortality looks nice

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but for most patterns i just use Rebuke

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i might try changing the anomaly tho and see how it is without instant cast

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if im fine, then yeah would profit a lot more if i spend these 5 points elsewhere

vernal frigate
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if you have frenzy up its basically instant cast

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if not then its like 0.5s cast speed

echo raven
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oh i dont have frenzy, do i ?

vernal frigate
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you have it when you evade with nihilis

echo raven
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oh yeah i do

vernal frigate
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also your relic is super juiced, 96% inc frenzy effect

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so its even faster

echo raven
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yeah but the health regen with titan heart xD

vernal frigate
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yeah lol thats sad

echo raven
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theres no way to kinda change that right ?

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like go back to unique to get one more nemesis chance ?

vernal frigate
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no just get lucky with another 1lp shattered worlds either as drop or nemesis

echo raven
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yeah although would be nice for LP echo to be able to work on legendaries

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either add 1 more stat or lose all hmmm

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xD

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lemme ask u one last thing if u dont mind. would u use like mid/lowrolled relic if it only had 1lp ?

vernal frigate
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yeah but would have to adjust your build accordingly

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the crit chance is the most important

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and np i dont mind any questions i like helping

vernal frigate
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3% and lower would be getting crit in anomaly, crit on gear

dense tendon
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didnt they say they removed damned debuff from enemy abilities recently?

rancid lantern
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so, a question

echo raven
rancid lantern
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I noticed most paladins go Dot ground judgement but I saw noone play around holy eruption

echo raven
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15% less dmg taken is big but if im doding most of the stuff im not sure if i want it

rancid lantern
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wouldnt holy eruption be better with crit?

junior wren
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Holy Eruption happens after Consecrated Ground ends, so you would bonk, wait 4+ seconds, and then get the big bonk

rancid lantern
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you can cut that down with Expedite, no?

junior wren
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yeah, but the whole point of using Consecrated Ground is the damage over time portion 🙂 But let's try it. So you spend 4 pts on holy eruption damage, then 4 pts on Expedite, 4 pts on prereq and Holy Eruption itself.

Now, does Holy Eruption scale with Consecrated Ground nodes or with Hit nodes?

rancid lantern
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It scales with cons ground

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nodes

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I confirmed with Mike

rancid lantern
junior wren
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So then something like this

rancid lantern
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from symbols

junior wren
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but in this config it's a cooldown

rancid lantern
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It is.

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and youd wait for symbols to come up anyway

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so you could, technically

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shield throw for flame burst

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and then judgement that uses up all your symbols

junior wren
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yeah, I mean it wouldn't be amazing DPS because not spammable

rancid lantern
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wait for symbols and cds to come up

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and repeat

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yeah shield throw lava burst has obnoxious damage

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but the 5 cd and waitint for it to come back

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is a pain

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and generic fire vengeance + hh + holy aura flame burst, not sure if that's the best way around it

junior wren
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you would have to scale crit chance and multi

rancid lantern
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indeed

junior wren
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does holy eruption share the bonus damage from % inc healing?

rancid lantern
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Yes

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so that'd solve the flat.

junior wren
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so we could use the nemesis scepter

rancid lantern
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Hmmm yeah, provided you run healing effectiveness.

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not sure if you can scale other spells that way though.

junior wren
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it would be foolish not to 😛

rancid lantern
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sir

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you have no idea

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what ive been trying to do

junior wren
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other spells.. only divine bolts are crit based

rancid lantern
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trying to make divine flare work

junior wren
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and HH ofc

crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Rogue (20) / Bladedancer (27) / Marksman (55) / Falconer (11)

General:

▸ Health: 1,849, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 123.01, Regen: 9.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 1 Str / 78 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 72% / 65% / 65% / 64% / 76% / 65% / 82%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 647
▸ Dodge Chance: 39% (1368)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 37% (1,991)
▸ Glancing Blow Chance: 31%
▸ Crit Avoidance: 92%

rancid lantern
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oops

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wrong link

crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (20) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (68)

General:

▸ Health: 4,031, Regen: 125.75/s
▸ Mana: 295.75, Regen: 10.08/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 40 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 205% / 98% / 98% / 89% / 95% / 72% / 67%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 983
▸ Armor Mitigation: 71% (6,870)
▸ Block Chance: 77%, Mitigation: 52% (2,181)

rancid lantern
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allow me to fill you in xD

junior wren
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a little bit overcapped on crit 😄

rancid lantern
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Not for Divine Flare

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which gets.... none

junior wren
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it says 114% spellcrit and you also have the fire crit amulet

rancid lantern
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oh thats on max roll

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its 97% on avg

junior wren
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? I'm looking at LETools

rancid lantern
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yes, if you click at average rolls

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it gets down to 97%

junior wren
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oh I see, average 😏

rancid lantern
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yea

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just playing safe lol

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to be honest

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im not super interested in holy eruption as much as

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lava burst shield throw

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but i hate how it plays out at 5 sec CD

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but i dont want to run it CD-less

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so i was meaning to pair it with a spell

junior wren
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well you got me interested in holy eruption instead, because I play divine bolts and I've been looking for a boss killing skill 😄

rancid lantern
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Haha, well

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you can take this the other way too

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and instead of divine flare

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have Holy eruption consume

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symbols

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youd need levels for that though...

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and

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while generic cons ground modifiers work

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i dont think the conditional ones do

junior wren
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maybe I'll finally go farm the +2 nihilis

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conditionals, as in the damage to ignited?

rancid lantern
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so my understanding is, anything "vs ignited/bosses/high health/low health/" or other conditionals dont work on subskills

junior wren
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should be easy enough to check

rancid lantern
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go for it, i dont have a paladin levelled that far

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but basically you'd kinda just want +4 at least just so you dont wait 4 seconds for explosion lol

junior wren
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I have 3 so lemme try 😄

rancid lantern
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if it works like that, youd go something like this

junior wren
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I have aura duration and holy eruption specced rn, so i'll just drop it and wait because ignite will run out before it explodes 😄 and then I'll keep ignite applied

rancid lantern
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but ideally i'd want to spec symbol of sacrifice

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for a boss one shotter

junior wren
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hmm, but I don't think it'll make such a big difference, especially if you already have tons of inc healing

rancid lantern
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yeah i never made a inc healing character

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but i reckon you can get a lot of flat here

junior wren
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it's +60 flat at most, but your average judgement enjoyer runs 1000%+ inc healing, which translates into 200+ flat damage for consecrated ground

rancid lantern
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yea so you can probably bonk a boss with this

junior wren
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extreme cases run even more 😄

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my crappy old pc finally loaded in, time to test

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ah dammit i forgot throne of ambition

vernal frigate
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cant really think of anything better. The real problem you have is that your armor is way too low in the first place (5% less armor nihilis hurts) for armor applies to DoT to be effective

junior wren
rancid lantern
junior wren
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so "against high health" also won't work, but pious offering should

rancid lantern
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pious should work yes

junior wren
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confirmed draining my mana lowered damage

rancid lantern
crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (20) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (68)

General:

▸ Health: 3,822, Regen: 102.89/s
▸ Mana: 263.51, Regen: 12.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 22 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 56 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 193% / 86% / 86% / 77% / 83% / 60% / 93%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 56%, Threshold: 923
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (7,245)
▸ Block Chance: 64%, Mitigation: 43% (1,515)

rancid lantern
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just a casual 1900% he

rancid lantern
velvet swallow
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Hey guys! Any recommendations on where I should put the last 4 points in "Devouring Orb"?

rancid lantern
dense tendon
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that cuts your void shred and doom uptime

rancid lantern
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he already runs anomaly

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so he only needs void essences

dense tendon
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anomaly isnt enough shred on its own

rancid lantern
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the two combined definitely are

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and

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eruption hits also apply shred

dense tendon
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chaotic torrent is the usual pickup

rancid lantern
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so i dont see why it would cut into shred uptime

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its any hits

dense tendon
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cause the orbs disappear

rancid lantern
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and you get eruption instead with up to like 5 hits

junior wren
rancid lantern
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its a subskill of holy eruption

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and holy eruption has attunement

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scaling

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er

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subskill of cons ground *

keen stirrup
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i want to be able to stand in everything, even the Undead Bone Dragon's explosion attack, at high Corruption

if I disregard a "good" clear speed (aka, dps stats), is that still possible with post-nerf Ward

junior wren
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Consecrated Ground also doesn't have it 😄

rancid lantern
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so subskills are confusing

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but basically if you cast it on its own it wouldnt have the scaling

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but because it comes from the skill

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it takes upon judgement's attunement scaling

junior wren
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my understand is that Judgement gets %inc dmg from ATN and that transfers to Judgement's subskill, ie Consecrated Ground, but in this case it's a subskill of Consecrated Ground which itself doesn't have the scaling.

velvet swallow
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Man I'm so torn between the Devouring Orb choice now haha. I was leaning towards "Rift Caller" but now I'm super unsure 😅

rancid lantern
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just test it, i personally love the eruption 3 void essence uptime

rancid lantern
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not a big deal

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regardless

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when youre bringing in that much flat.

junior wren
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I'm getting a damage variance, 128k or 137k but im not sure what's causing it tom

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removed shred, armor shred, immolators, topping up my mana before every judgement

rancid lantern
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dont see your characters

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so cant say

junior wren
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anyway, the damage did go up after putting back my body armor with ATN so it does work 😄

rancid lantern
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Figured it would

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subskill tags can confuse you

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thicc

steady yew
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Jesus just saw a falconer on blue gear killing normal aberoth in like 50s

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without idols

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what's wrong with some build x)

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gz

junior wren
# rancid lantern thoughts?

looking at the planner

  • Righteous Firebrand in Paladin mastery tree is a must have for this
  • What about Alignment? same tree
  • 5 pts in Pious, but we don't exactly stack mana
  • missing mana on vengeance hit, affix on body armor
  • the build has 0 attack speed 👀
uneven spade
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for erasing strike which one is better to make into a legendary?

rancid lantern
junior wren
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I see. Oh and what do you think about no cooldown judgement vs. cooldown on this setup?

rancid lantern
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initially i wanted cd and not even pious just so i can alternate it smoothly with shield throw lava burst... but you can go pretty all in on mana and mana from vengeance

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depends how standalone you want it I reckon

foggy junco
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Nice slam

rancid lantern
modern ocean
crude matrixBOT
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:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (64)

General:

▸ Health: 2,965, Regen: 309.98/s
▸ Mana: 187.19, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 0 Dex / 7 Int / 11 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 175% / 100% / 137% / 163% / 97% / 76% / 62%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 932
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (191)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,602)
▸ Block Chance: 101%, Mitigation: 60% (2,944)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

rancid lantern
#

like...

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Ohh

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Fire Abyssal Echoes?

#
  • shield throw?
junior wren
#

how about smite? throwing idol casts smite too, you'll get multiple casts from richochets

rancid lantern
#

it's okay supplementary but the problem isnt making shield throw lava burst do damage

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cause it already melts everything

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its having something to do in the 3-4 sec downtime :p

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other than smite, preferably

junior wren
#

don't like casting smite? 🤔

rancid lantern
#

not really, did fissure smite as starter

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xd

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and it feels like it needs something else

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like cast speed

junior wren
#

multismite omegalul

rancid lantern
#

honestly, likely better

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or

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javelin smite

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cause i dont think you can meet 10 procs with one shield throw

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javelin could fit the gap

dense tendon
#

is there smite triggering nodes on every skill wtf

rancid lantern
junior wren
#

could fit the 10 procs with the shield that autoprocs shieldthrow

rancid lantern
#

@junior wren need flat spell damage bad with lava burst shield throw

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javelin i think is the play

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waait

junior wren
#

iirc highest spell damage you could get would be DW palarus 😄

rancid lantern
#

yeah but you want to be block capped for shield throw lava burst too

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for the thicc multi

junior wren
#

you can block cap with that autoproc shield

rancid lantern
#

but then youre missing flat

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oh wait

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not missing out on flat with sigeons

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yea that'd work

junior wren
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yeah, I meant sigeons

rancid lantern
#

sorry thought you meant the weapon one

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lets see

steep trail
rancid lantern
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (31) / Paladin (57)

General:

▸ Health: 2,924, Regen: 199.8/s
▸ Mana: 149.43, Regen: 11.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 62 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 10 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 134% / 102% / 102% / 89% / 83% / 76% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 882
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 75% (8,676)
▸ Block Chance: 94%, Mitigation: 60% (3,108)

rancid lantern
#

Not sure if this is enough spell crit

cobalt orbit
#

is Rune of Creation rare?

rancid lantern
#

pretty rare yeah

steep trail
#

rare

cobalt orbit
#

got 1.

rancid lantern
#

I never used it personally

steep trail
#

its good to use to get 2 perfect rings to use

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for slam

vernal frigate
#

its rare as a drop but there are plenty of prophecies in cof to get them

dense tendon
#

it's common on cof

cobalt orbit
#

oh good to know. ty

steep trail
#

i just migrated to COF yesterday

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after getting gold cap and killing uber abby

cobalt orbit
#

nice goals

steep trail
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so now i have more gold than i can need for tabs 😈

vernal frigate
#

lmaoo

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you can also use up your gold for lightless arbor for havoc/redemption farming

rancid lantern
steep trail
#

thats true also yes

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i forgot :p

rancid lantern
#

i was wondering how peopel farm those runes

vernal frigate
#

either that or generic rune prophecy for cof and fulfilling them in tombs/cemetaries

rancid lantern
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they cant drop outside of tombs/cemeteries? 0_O

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thought they could

dense tendon
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i think the fullfilling them in tombs part is placebo tbh

steep trail
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i got from this to this in less than half an hour of 1kC

rancid lantern
#

Ye the first few ranks are super fast thankfully

vernal frigate
#

yeah im not 100% sure and theres no dev confirmation yet, but from what ive read fulfilling them inside tombs/cemetaries makes them drop more because the monsters inside are "tagged" as tomb/cemetary mobs, so you get more

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i couldnt be bothered with it personally cos rolling for that prophecy is so boring

rancid lantern
#

its like a 5% roll for that thing, its hard enough to get that lol

vernal frigate
#

you get maybe 1 every 30-40k favor

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yeah

rancid lantern
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nah i got like 16 in 35k but it was kinda all over the place

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it helps the prophecy itself is super cheap

dense tendon
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i just pick up minor weaver > ornate > rune > small weaver
rolling for one specific thing takes too long

vernal frigate
#

you mean just the x11 one right? (x22 with double reward)

rancid lantern
#

yea

vernal frigate
#

nice

steep trail
#

i only saw it once outside

vernal frigate
#

after i started farming 1k corruption i started getting a ton of havocs/redemption just from playing

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enraged rares helps too + loot lizard stuff (lizards have a drop table that can include runes)

rancid lantern
crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (31) / Paladin (57)

General:

▸ Health: 2,924, Regen: 199.8/s
▸ Mana: 149.43, Regen: 11.92/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 70 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 10 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 134% / 102% / 102% / 89% / 83% / 76% / 76%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 882
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 76% (9,334)
▸ Block Chance: 94%, Mitigation: 60% (3,108)

rancid lantern
#

eh unfeasible to run oblation here

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ideally id really like to do something else than trigger smites here

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esp as i dont think i can hit the smite cap here

#

now what if

crude matrixBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (50) / Forge Guard (25) / Paladin (18)

General:

▸ Health: 2,579, Regen: 180.72/s
▸ Mana: 145.51, Regen: 13.52/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 75 Str / 5 Dex / 5 Int / 10 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 104% / 72% / 72% / 94% / 88% / 62% / 62%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 28%, Threshold: 790
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (20)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 76% (8,988)
▸ Block Chance: 86%, Mitigation: 61% (3,228)

rancid lantern
#

@junior wren what say you to this

steady yew
#

I never slammed 2h do i need exact same type of weapon ?

vernal frigate
#

which 2h do you have

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if you have a unique 2h mace, you need an exalted 2h mace

hexed vector
#

When you dual wield and have the node that give the Manifest Armor a weapon with your stats, does it get stats from both weapons?

vernal frigate
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if you have an idol with armor shred then i wouldnt bother

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yeah the 4x1 ornate solar idol

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instead of increased melee void damage, you get armor shred

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example

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since you dont have attack speed on the WS though it might be tough keeping the shred stacks up

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its all just very minimal minmaxing at your point though

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maybe shave 10 or 20secs off every uberroth fight

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ooh

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yeah you definitely want at least 1 source of armor shred then

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eg 20 stacks of shre will give you 25% MORE damage

dense tendon
#

honestly 27 fp when im already done kinda feels bad

faint scarab
#

anyone wanna run abby with me? got 22 eyes left

#

trying to get that insane nihilis

vernal frigate
#

yeah i dont think blood mage is very good for dps, you shouldnt be getting hit by a trislam anyway (its probably the only attack you have to dodge), and you should be healing hands dashing behind him when he does it if you are out of position

dense tendon
#

has anyone actually managed to get 3 lp flames of midnight

vernal frigate
#

yeah i have one

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3 actually but failed 2

faint scarab
#

only 2 for me

dense tendon
#

i need endurance on one ring and crit on the other but only 2 lp midnight

steady yew
vernal frigate
#

yeah thats a big thing too

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all about positioning and keeping your arena clean

dense tendon
#

shadow beacon is a mace

junior wren
rancid lantern
#

and you'd jump every 3 seconds or less

vernal frigate
#

one tip is that you dont need to be right ontop of him, you should always be evading for frenzy from nihilis + keeping to the right of him (last attack in trislam)

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cos worldsplitter has insane aoe

rancid lantern
#

still think that'll be the case?

junior wren
rancid lantern
#

so that passes down

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so throwing attack crit chance would pass down

vernal frigate
flat valve
#

Is there any unique with on crit effects good for phys throw attacks or in general? Im playing javelin and got close to 100% crit chance but i dont think i have seen anything like that yet

junior wren
crude matrixBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,669, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 1,235.75, Regen: 13.68/s
▸ Attributes: 67 Str / 0 Dex / 0 Int / 8 Att / 30 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 82% / 83% / 76% / 92% / 80% / 81%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 74%, Threshold: 1,456
▸ Armor Mitigation: 75% (8,263)

rancid lantern
#

so throw crit chance from shield throw would affect its subskill for instance

junior wren
#

that makes so little sense when the subskill is a spell tag

rancid lantern
#

Subskills pass on their main skill's scalings

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and that includes crit

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Do not get confused by subskill tags

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Subskill tags exist for the sole purpose of telling you how they'd work if they were individual skills

#

Ive been over this for a while

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and good god is it not explained well in game

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xD

vernal frigate
#

wow your gear is insane

#

you could try a 1lp seed of ekkidrasil helm and its very hard to die with that

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you only need to dodge trislam

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yep

dense tendon
#

2 lp ocearon WHAT

harsh nova
junior wren
rancid lantern
#

it gets together

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ive been trying to make subskills work for a while

#

but basically

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Hammer Throw damage % for instance would work on disintegrating aura

vernal frigate
#

@plush orchid you might want to spec into this, keeps healing hands very low cd

granite forge
#

all i want for judgement (consecrated aura) is an equivalent of this on an item or idol

vernal frigate
#

flat mana and % hp as endurance threshhold

foggy junco
rancid lantern
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@junior wren Spiked and Rygar's gives generic more.

foggy junco
#

still working with a 1LP 😅 over here

rancid lantern
#

so that one works

silk wasp
dense tendon
#

what's the secret tech

silk wasp
#

🤔

vernal frigate
#

yes

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2lp too thats insane

rancid lantern
rancid lantern
# silk wasp 🤔

Or more precisely, Executioner base hit damage more would work but not the doubled against low health part lol

vernal frigate
#

@plush orchid you can drop the leech nodes here on vk passive tree i feel like they are useless, put them into doom knight (more armor)

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mana% or health for 2lp seed

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armor shred effect is also nuts if you can get it

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t5 is 100% at max roll, pretty much doubles your shred

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yeah no point really, felt no difference unspeccing it

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its good before you get siphon

silk wasp
vernal frigate
#

its actually worse once you get immortal vise since you leech faster and use up your leech pool faster

rancid lantern
#

@silk wasp so for instance, more multis work for Erasing Strike beams, but echoes 80% more damage for erasing does not.

silk wasp
#

Interesting

vernal frigate
#

@plush orchid you arent crit capped btw, you are at 87.5% with anomaly up. its because you have minimum roll on your worldsplitter. you lose a lot of damage from that

rancid lantern
silk wasp
#

So Temper's +50% More Fire damage on Forge Strike should work for Detonating Ground? Or no because Fire is a condition?

rancid lantern
#

Temper would work just fine

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Goliath Strike would not

silk wasp
#

🤔 I need to reevaluate my skill points choices now

junior wren
#

@rancid lantern so the crit multi from block eff gets passed down too? Then you might wanna throw in ring of shields, it casts a buff for block efficiency

vernal frigate
#

if you get 20%+ crit chance enchants on your 2 ornate idols (40% total) + get a small idol with crit chance (at least 10%), you will be crit capped

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you can prob drop one of you humble idols with void pen/melee damage

rancid lantern
vernal frigate
#

aight

junior wren
#

I don't know if VK is worth it

rancid lantern
#

well it basically gives you

#

double the CD shield throws

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on top of big echo damage % bonus for that

harsh nova
rancid lantern
#

its double damage at cost of health basically

#

you should see how it looks in action

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i think the sigeons solved my downtime problem

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and gave me 3 p i needed for the crit

vernal frigate
#

my pleasure, good luck 🙏

junior wren
#

I don't have a VK so you'd have to record it for me 🙂

rancid lantern
#

i might have to level one just so i can get the CDR 😛

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or maybe just run it without CD until i get that

faint scarab
junior wren
#

well, 104 damage at 200% effectiveness is just okay, but assuming all of this works, your % more multi is ludicrous

harsh nova
#

thought about it @faint scarab

rancid lantern
harsh nova
#

then i realized i'd get t2 crit and void

junior wren
#

oh? 🤔

harsh nova
#

CDR is such a premium stat in this game it's crazy

rancid lantern
#

@junior wren it procs each ricochet on the enemy and since it bounces off you, that's 8 ricochets, 13 with shield bash, so that's 1400% eff

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and because it auto echoes

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it does that twice

dense tendon
junior wren
#

yeah, but that's still only 8 hits, and you have a cooldown after

rancid lantern
faint scarab
#

i was joking

junior wren
#

it sounds just okay 😄

rancid lantern
#

150%, 75%, 100%, 6%, 150%

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those all work

drowsy wren
#

guys is corruption have diminishing return

steady yew
#

What's better melee void dmg or % void damage as erasing ?

inland vault
dense tendon
#

warpath vk

rancid lantern
steady yew
faint scarab
#

by a lot

rancid lantern
#

@steady yew by far

vernal frigate
#

flat melee void 10000% better

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there is a reason that every build takes it on their weapon. Also because theres no other sources for flat damage except on the vk passive tree

inland vault
drowsy wren
#

is 1000 corruption most optimal to farm gear ?

steady yew
drowsy wren
#

ah ok

steady yew
#

also @vernal frigate running stun is as horrible as funny while doing boss shade insta cast meteor without wind up

vernal frigate
#

😆 yeah for sure

#

it bugs out so many bosses

steady yew
#

died so many times cause of that xD

rancid lantern
#

@junior wren but im open to ideas as to what to swap out to fit in a smite javelin, itd work here but i'd really need to drop sigils for it

#

which i'm not sure is worth

vernal frigate
#

yup

modern ocean
#

is orian's harder to farm than red ring?

vernal frigate
#

15% base crit at max roll

#

i dont think so gaspi

modern ocean
#

I got 6 red rings but 0 orians

dense tendon
#

did you imprint the red ring at any point

vernal frigate
#

is that from running unique amulet prophecies

steady yew
#

just run prophecy with increase number of items and pray for red ring

#

still none with like 300k favor but it should spawn

modern ocean
crude matrixBOT
#

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (64)

General:

▸ Health: 2,965, Regen: 309.98/s
▸ Mana: 187.19, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 0 Dex / 7 Int / 11 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 175% / 100% / 137% / 163% / 97% / 76% / 62%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 932
▸ Dodge Chance: 5% (191)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,602)
▸ Block Chance: 101%, Mitigation: 60% (2,944)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 5%

inland vault
#

How much dps you have on warpath skill ?

dense tendon
#

134k when sitting still with no devouring orbs or essences

junior wren
modern ocean
#

why is my judgmenet DPS so low...

junior wren
#

@rancid lantern on the topic of subskills, what else can transfer to subskills? Flat damage, inc damage, more damage, base crit, inc crit, crit multi.

#

how about ailment chance?

#

for example, Forge Strike + Maehlin gloves + Detonating Ground 😏

#

FS has Singular Craft node which gives base crit and bleed chance, so Detonating Ground gets the crit, how about the bleed?

vernal frigate
#

yeah

#

i also did not multi exalt any of my gear except ring, way too tedious

#

ring is also easy because you can attribute swap

#

yeah way more than before for sure

#

just when you hit the point when you are at then its like whats the point 😅

arctic loom
#

sooo for the red ring in cof, what did you guys do? just spam ring prophecies?

vernal frigate
#

yep

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holyyyyyyyy

#

big

arctic loom
#

probably the best 0lp i got so far but nemesis said "No" -_-

vernal frigate
#

go get em

arctic loom
#

Yup! I am aiming for random 2 affixes from nemesis tho to reroll this crap

waxen nymph
#

This also for exemple would apply

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If a node doesnt call out smth specific about a skill it applies for the whole skill

#

Though there are some execptions, like how Forged Weapons dont scale with all the nodes in Forge Strike

vernal frigate
#

hardest to roll item in thegame fr

junior wren
#

The node specifies FS hit, so I guess I just don't see Detonating Ground hit as part of "Forge Strike hit".

junior wren
#

ah, the Singular Craft one

waxen nymph
#

Detonating Ground is a hit, and is part of Forge Strike

#

So that works

rancid lantern
#

o hai

#

i was explaining how good shield throw is to @junior wren lol

#

and explaining the subskill mechanics lol

#

i wanna give shield throw VK another go

junior wren
#

hmm damn, silly holy eruption will be cleansing away my immolator's ignite stacks omegalul

rancid lantern
#

yeah you got plenty of flat

#

you wouldnt run immolators on that

junior wren
#

guess I need a new belt

rancid lantern
#

you dont attack frequently enough anyways

junior wren
#

oh I do

rancid lantern
#

you can swap to orian's

#

for more smites 🙂

waxen nymph
#

The more I play around it the more I am convinced CD ST is purely support
The CD is way to big to get any kind of real dmg

waxen nymph
rancid lantern
#

if its not CD it kinda needs manifest armor

junior wren
#

I was also thinking that, but he has like 23x more multiplier 😄

waxen nymph
rancid lantern
#

less than 3 with cdr

#

but yeah you need like

#

100% cdr at least to feel good

waxen nymph
#

T7 cdr everywhere

junior wren
#

there's some CDR in void knight

rancid lantern
#

and anomaly

#

you can get there

lilac sparrow
#

30% cdr

#

For free

rancid lantern
#

and with sigeons

#

you can just kinda...

#

walk

lilac sparrow
#

Then there's the vitality+ cdr node

rancid lantern
#

and just get smacked a tiny bit

#

to retaliate

#

i wonder if retaliate shield throw can echo?

#

prolly not

junior wren
#

retal is proc so prolly not

waxen nymph
rancid lantern
#

anyway i think you can fill the gaps in damage with sigeons

#

otherwise

#

you gonna have to run manifest armor

#

and get throw attack speed

north hedge
#

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I might be getting tired of WP builds..

twilit valley
#

Does Solo AF mean I can’t play with anyone ? I presume it means I can’t but not sure .

rancid lantern
#

solo means solo

#

:p

twilit valley
#

Can it be changed ?

lilac sparrow
#

No

twilit valley
#

Did I mess up playing solo ?

north hedge
rancid lantern
#

If you dont want to play solo, yes

waxen nymph
twilit valley
#

Guess I’m a loner

lilac sparrow
#

Lol 😆🤣

#

Might as well go play offline

rancid lantern
#

@waxen nymph that sounds about right

north hedge
twilit valley
#

So what I choose to play with others but share stash

lilac sparrow
#

Can someone tell me what are the advantages of partying with someone

rancid lantern
#

resonances

lilac sparrow
#

Other than carrying you

#

Do we get increased drop rate

junior wren
#

doubled DPS, faster map clear

north hedge
#

technically better chance on loot you need cause you can trade with resonances

waxen nymph
#

In the challenge tab

junior wren
#

and not every build has everything in it, so you could be providing haste to teammate for example.

lilac sparrow
#

Wait which class does that

waxen nymph
#

Not that only what your character is carrying will transfer
Stash tabs and Forge Mats wont

twilit valley
#

So I’m guessing some players who couldn’t solo uber were carried for their gloves and relic ?

junior wren
#

Holy Aura provides haste on hit for throwing, so that also works

lilac sparrow
#

Is lunge better than volatile reversal

rancid lantern
#

nope

waxen nymph
#

I love the new VR

lilac sparrow
#

Yeah thought so

junior wren
#

mind you, lunge provides haste to allies, but not to YOU omegalul

waxen nymph
#

Feels so good to use

lilac sparrow
#

Volatile reversal is the best traversal skill

#

Much better than fury leap imo

rancid lantern
#

Paranoia helmet makes lunge work ok

lilac sparrow
#

It's good at passing through walls

waxen nymph
#

I wonder if it can be made into a good dps skill

rancid lantern
#

i feel like it should be inherent

lilac sparrow
#

With longer range

north hedge
#

is it really? Range is kinda short so I would've assumed there were better ones in other classes

lilac sparrow
#

Btw there's something I find weird

#

Just why dfq

#

Chaos bolt is int

#

It's vk exclusive skill for the love of god

dense tendon
#

fun fact if you use lunge with a controller it can aim outside of your screen

waxen nymph
#

Chaos Bolt ?

lilac sparrow
#

Yeah

#

I mean void bolt

#

Sorry

waxen nymph
#

I need to pin that message

lilac sparrow
#

It weirdly scales to intelligence

dense tendon
#

attempt #3 on a 26% feels bad man

waxen nymph
#

Attribute scaling is inherited from the parent skill, not coming of the subskill

waxen nymph
#

It scale from Vit

#

No matter what you can see on Letools

lilac sparrow
#

Weird I saw on LE tools stating it's intelligence

waxen nymph
#

Attribute scaling is inherited from the parent skill, not coming from the subskill

#

Attribute scaling is inherited from the parent skill, not coming from the subskill

lilac sparrow
#

That good 👍

dense tendon
junior wren
rancid lantern
#

VR

#

based build

#

would be trigger fire echoes

waxen nymph
#

Like how Lava Burst scale with Att in ST but it doesnt because ST scales with Dex and Str so Lava Burst scale with Dex and Str

dense tendon
#

is that sentence impossible to read or just me

junior wren
#

it's impossible until you understood how subskill scaling works 😄

#

then it makes perfect sense

silk wasp
#

I understand it but my third eye is open 👁️

waxen nymph
#

This is "wrong"

rancid lantern
#

^

waxen nymph
junior wren
#

basically
If skill = main skill, TAGS = TRUTH.
but If skill = subskill, TAGS = FAKE INFO.

rancid lantern
#

i like how me and you are resident subskill explainers now @waxen nymph lmao

#

Yup

#

Unless

#

you can use that skill directly somehow

junior wren
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and exceptions apply omegalul

dense tendon
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these attunement tags arent actually shown in game right?

junior wren
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I believe they are

rancid lantern
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sometimes shows up under alt info

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aight time for testin

junior wren
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time for work

waxen nymph
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Thats how it works
You Shield Throw, it hits smth and trigger Lava Burst
Lava Burst will ask Shield Throw :

  • Hey, how much Inc Dmg you have ?
  • Hum ... 40% from Str (10 Str) and 80% from Dex (20 Dex) and 200% from Inc Fire Dmg on the weapon
  • Cool, let me grab those and use them
rancid lantern
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But!

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it doesn't use conditional bonuses

waxen nymph
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That for the %More Dmg conversation ^^

rancid lantern
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cause he asks "do i do damage against ignited enemies?" "hell no, i do that"

junior wren
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where's the reddit infographic crew when you need them

waxen nymph
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Oh god, it shows in game Attunement .....

junior wren
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basically that 😄

waxen nymph
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Yeah ...

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I mean what happened is they probably recycle another skill base that scaled with Att

obsidian thicket
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Anyone played timerot void knight ?

Seems interesting with warpath and auto spawning orbs. My worry is since it's locked to 12 stacks the dmg ceiling.

But also if it's going to be really button heavy.

rancid lantern
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theres a few variants around since it got reworked so yes

obsidian thicket
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Idea is using warpath + auto spawning orbs and abyss tempest to automate abysal echos. All applying time rot.

rancid lantern
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that wont work very well

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for timerot at least

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you want a lot of more multipliers for the skill that applies time rot

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well

analog steppe
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12 stacks of time rot is so trivial that you need to maximize the damage of each stack

rancid lantern
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actually

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if you can sustain the mana

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for warpath

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there exists a reality where timerot warpath does overcome Devouring Orb

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via Warrior's Fury

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that sounds like a fun concept actually

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you'd have to stack mana regen like hell tho

analog steppe
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It sounds very clunky

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I don’t think you would be able to get enough mana regen to make it feel good for clearing

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Of course that being said maybe you only need the big numbers on the boss for <1000 corruption content

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but it certainly wouldn’t scale well to clear

dense tendon
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are you saying you want to scale it with warrior's fury

analog steppe
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He’s saying that’s literally the only way to make warpath do decent timerot damage yes

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Because it’s the only big more multi to get

dense tendon
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oh it's actually in the message

rancid lantern
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Yeah you could do like a full screen warpath then 😛

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omnividence probably

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so what's the more multi on DO all consuming

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for 8?

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just wanna run a quick comparison here

dense tendon
rancid lantern
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yeah

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i heard optimal is 8 orbs i think

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ah shit omni is a void spell damage...

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hmm

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dreamthorn it is

dense tendon
rancid lantern
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yeah so

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just that mod alone

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you'd need 5 seconds of warpathing

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which honestly

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is far less than i thought

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and now makes me wanna think of full screen timerot warpath shenanigans

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xd

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Would need to run swordcatchet tho

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catcher tho

dense tendon
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dont you want exalted weapon and shield with the set boni

rancid lantern
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you want a lot of levels

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to sustain the mana

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so you want Dark Nexus

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for sure

crude matrixBOT
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Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (62) / Forge Guard (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,406, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 259.51, Regen: 37.2/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 77% / 7% / 38% / 27% / 59% / 25% / 25%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 44%, Threshold: 281
▸ Armor Mitigation: 62% (4,653)

analog steppe
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I’m just not sure something like that is worthwhile, losing a lot of void penetration to get there

rancid lantern
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dont ask me how you gonna fit the res

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what is

analog steppe
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compared to other timerot builds

rancid lantern
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well the idea is you eventually get to the point where your warpath clears the whole screen

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bosses included

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not sure how long that'd take, though

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Pen is overrrated, as long as you have some youre fine

analog steppe
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how is it overrated, it’s yet another more multi you can build for

rancid lantern
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its only so much

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let me put it this way

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if you warpath an additional second

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you already overtake all benefit of void pen

analog steppe
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not true at all

rancid lantern
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it is, tho

analog steppe
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The warpath more is additive with itself

rancid lantern
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how much pen you think overtakes 100% more, even if additive?

analog steppe
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Well dorb build has 115-130ish

rancid lantern
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okay?

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2 seconds?

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3?

dense tendon
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you skipped void well

rancid lantern
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I did yeah

analog steppe
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It’s hard to say where it will land, I’d have to math out the rest of what the warpath build could reach

rancid lantern
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would need to stack mana for void well

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but its a consideration

analog steppe
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Because warpath will have less of the rot grip more due to the mana intense focus on gear

rancid lantern
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Why would it

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where do you think youre losing the time rot/slow/attack&cast speed chance ?

analog steppe
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Because warpath can’t build as much throwing or cast speed when it’s using those prefixes on mana?

north hedge
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don't think rot warpath with warrior's fury is gonna be super viable compared to the other WP versions

rancid lantern
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well

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its a fun concept to be sure

north hedge
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But who knows, maybe it slaps (not without void well tho)

rancid lantern
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You think?

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warrior's fury adds mana cost each second, right?

north hedge
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yes, which you can't sustain without the mana recovery from void essences

rancid lantern
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the throw/cast speed prefixes i'm not generally a fan of btw

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eh its 1 p anyway, why not

analog steppe
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Void essences wouldn’t help sustain though right because the warpath would need to end from being out of mana to trigger?

rancid lantern
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if void well triggers before warpath stops

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it should extend it by a bit

dense tendon
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you stop spinning at -10 mana

analog steppe
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Regardless the bigger problem with warpath timerot is maintaining your high dmg stacks uptime

rancid lantern
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oh good to know

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hmm

north hedge
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i.e atm I'm doing ignite warpath (Paladin) and I can't put more than 2 points into Fury cause it tanks my mana immediately

rancid lantern
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yeah its uhh

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kind of banking you can sustain 5p fury for more than 5 seconds

digital mirage
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Hi everyone.

rancid lantern
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oioi

analog steppe
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I think you’d need to sustain for closer to 8 seconds to beat out other timerot applications and then you’d need to do this 7-8 seconds again to reapply, just seems unrealistic

rancid lantern
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5 sec warpath is 59 mana/sec avg

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with this setup

digital mirage
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I'm playing warpath void knight, and I struggle to get a decent Clotho's Needle. Any advice ?

rancid lantern
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get more clotho's needles

digital mirage
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been there, done that, so far no luck

rancid lantern
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be there more

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do that more

digital mirage
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best I could find is a T7 attack speed

rancid lantern
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get luckier 😄

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or you know just go to merchants guild and buy one eventually

digital mirage
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have you tried the world splitter variant ?

dense tendon
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t7 attack speed is workable tbh

digital mirage
north hedge
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but yeah, WP is great for either raw hit damage or dot ramping, dunno how effective Rot would be with its low max stack count

digital mirage
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I'm currently cruising at 400 corruption, preparing uber aberoth

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but I'm getting burned on of running folly thingy

rancid lantern
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6 sec warpath should be sustainable here

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7-8 is an ask

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but stardials can do work

digital mirage
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wdym by 6 sec warpath btw ?

rancid lantern
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oh someone asked if you can do timerot warpath

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i initially said no but then i thought what if

digital mirage
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oh sorry

rancid lantern
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you could work around Warrior's Fury

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to warpath just long enough

upbeat pagoda
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I just realized with nhilus when you dodge it takes away % of your health? omg ):

rancid lantern
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to apply 12 stacks Timerot while at 5-6+ sec of WF

digital mirage
dense tendon
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you also lose health if you summon your crab 🦀

woeful haven
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anyone here playing judgement pala that can answer me a question regarding healing hands skilltree

digital mirage
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that's the idea behind that gear on that build

north hedge
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tbh I'd leave Fury at 1 and grab the other damage nodes (along with the resistance and block nodes), use it as more of a defensive tool

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can always see if timerot through Smite procs is more viable

rancid lantern
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it isnt

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but itd make the thing sustainable more for sure

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Maybe you could do like 5 second balance with Giant Splitter

woeful haven
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Whats the reason behind putting only one point in healing hand's Bane of Evil Node (Spell Damage per 20% healing effectiveness)? Is there any capped scaling iam missing? Because i cant make sense of why you would not put 2 points in it and double the scaling

dense tendon
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on what build

woeful haven
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Judgement paladin. Ive checked multiple videos and guides for a build and they all just put one point

north hedge
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point constraints I assume

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/not getting a lot of healing eff nodes in passive tree

woeful haven
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It goes from 1 flat spell damage to 2 flat spell damage, and the point that could be put there is in healing hands upfrong healing

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Hmm i see. not scaling alot off healing eff on gear/tree might be a good point

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making the 2 points simply not worth it

waxen nymph
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Maybe because you dont really use it for dmg

woeful haven
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well, one additional i mean

junior wren
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the damage of HH will be miniscule compared to judgement, so the points are better spent for support nodes

silk wasp
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Yeah I only use one pt to get to the Void/Necro nodes

woeful haven
junior wren
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I like to think of it as adding a tiny little nail on top of a giant iron hammer

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that's what adding HH damage to judgement looks like 😄

woeful haven
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Haha, I didnt think its that small of a dps-buff. Good for having that cleared up now 🙂

silk wasp
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Has anyone tried Spell Manifest Armor with Forgebreath?

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Hand it a staff and have it spew out cones of fire every second

vestal mirage
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That sounds funny

junior wren
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Wrouk did

sand lion
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Bleed or nova hammers from maxroll?

dense tendon
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im running low on gauntlets of strife 😞

sand lion
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finally can play and need to decide

junior wren
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neither. I'm not a fan of the time lag of dots, and nova hammers is terrible 😄

dense tendon
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dot builds would be cool if loot filter had icons for exalted items

junior wren
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also I'm pretty sure they have an error in the nova hammers build

sand lion
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error?

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also why nova is terrible, seems kinda strong

random thorn
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i'm playing warpath atm, i get the feeling the only thing i can do to beef my defences is just get more hp to soak potential one shots - that's it?

dense tendon
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armor is good

junior wren
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they show this in the video, but their setup in the build has spiral allocated, so you only have half the projectiles

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they switch points around for bossing, throwing only 1 hammer, so I'm guessing they didn't fix it afterwards