🔱┃sentinel

[peak scroll]

I'm need some more flat life eventually

[muted oar]

This is the worst ring in the game

get carcinization of momentum

+12 vit +6 other attributes, armor

[sand gorge]

With those slams yeah 😂

[sinful basin]

yeah i messed that up, hadnt done it before

[vernal frigate]

yeah you need a better flames of midnight and belt with hybrid hp

[dense tendon]

is hybrid on belt better than normal % for you guys

[vernal frigate]

thats all i really know for judgement pally

[radiant vortex]

calling flames the worst ring in the game is wild to me

[twilit valley]

Is weaver tree bugged , removed all my points to respec and can’t respec now . Is there a start point

[vernal frigate]

yes its almost always better

[muted oar]

nah

for me %is btter cuz i have a lot of flat

could be the same for u

[sinful basin]

ok but health on belt is still like only 100+ health, or?

[dense tendon]

my belt mod gives 610 health

[sinful basin]

how?

[dense tendon]

idk man it's 26% increased health

[sinful basin]

ohhh, you need the increased health percent and not just a health

[upbeat pagoda]

How does this man do it… https://youtu.be/KX5PQF7XHUM?si=vKqS_Lzkh74A5x07

[vernal frigate]

op

[twilit valley]

I tried to upgrade and lost stats at gauntlet of strife . Now I have to find Better

[dense tendon]

i cant get 2 lp on shattered chains to save my life

i just want t1 cleanse on it

[twilit valley]

Anyone have a solution for weaver tree . Can’t add any points after removing all points

[arctic loom]

come to think of it, how can i use spirit step properly? is there a new command for it?

[peak scroll]

Just crit a 1lp xd

[arctic loom]

i just dash. but nothing special. i think i am using it wrong lol

[vernal frigate]

do /spiritstep in chat

jk

so when you erasing strike or healing hands, it spawns a spirit

you have to hover over the spirit and evade to teleport to it

[upbeat pagoda]

Are the rogues clapping us right now?

[arctic loom]

ohhhhh that's why! I thought for some time i was just lagging lmao

[peak scroll]

Honestly never even knew that was a thing

[vernal frigate]

the spirit also spawns where your cursor is when you ES, so you can aim further away

same as anomaly

i usually use anomaly to tele when doing ubberoth and fighting the fat harby, after abberoth does the necrotic slashes

like full screen tp from bottom left to top right, its so satisfying

[worldly flame]

1. when should I switch to full void damage as VK warpath timerot? 2) once I do, I stack void and melee damage? And DoT or no?

[peak scroll]

I think most wp aren't dot

[junior wren]

it's a good ring if you still want to be able dodge and also have swiftness. Also fire pen.

[keen jewel]

I don't even know where my cursor is 60% of the time lol

[peak scroll]

And mostly it is just str/defense on gear. The uniques do the rest

[vernal frigate]

you must become the cursor.....

🙏

[sinful basin]

does anybody know why the maxroll loot filter for judge pali recolours chill on hit?

[peak scroll]

I promise if he doing aberroth that he's certainly a curser

[peak scroll]

I would guess for havoc runes?

It has shock too

[sinful basin]

what do havoc runes do? 😄

[peak scroll]

Move the tiers of mods around

[worldly flame]

I'm leveling right now. So using whatever uniques seem good for my build. Like strength and damage. Worried about switching over to pure void though

[peak scroll]

If u get the non exalted mods to same tier, it is 1/3 to move the exalt to the mod u want

[sinful basin]

oic

[peak scroll]

There not too much to worry about. Progress your monos, when you get to empowered choose one of the items and start going for it

[sinful basin]

yeah i just got a bunch of prophecies for belts

[peak scroll]

Id suggest maybe looking for apathy maw before worrying about clotho needle

[worldly flame]

Haven't finished campaign so don't know what monos are other than they should start around lvl 40?

[peak scroll]

Don't worry about it then, by time you want to start swapping you'll be more comfortable with the game. Monos are the repeatable end game

If u already a voidknight may as well look for void stuffs tho

[worldly flame]

If I switch to pure void damage and don't like it I can easily reset right? For gold or something?

[ionic inlet]

Play the game, go to monos when you're 55 or something, when you have all idol slots and don't want to continue the main quest. (And/or when you get to Majelka for CoF and MG whichever you picked at lvl 5)

[junior wren]

void warpath does a switch? I usually level as void warpath 😄

[worldly flame]

Apocalypse whirl converts all physical damage to void

[junior wren]

no, like, switch refers to doing build X, and then changing it to build Y. You're just talking about damage conversion, and it doesn't really matter if you dmg is physical or void, it's the same gameplay, same skills, same gear, you just look for void instead of physical

[peak scroll]

You can reset yes. Changing your mastery (void knight/forgeguard/paladin) may prove a bit expensive

[clear osprey]

hoi, running a forge guard minion build, ie using forge strike and manifest armor, what weapons should i generally look out fo

[worldly flame]

Im just worried that my warpath damage drops when I add that one node. But ill just revert til I get more void gear if so

[junior wren]

unspecializing void conversion is one click of a button and removing a skillpoint 🙂 so yes, very easy to switch.

[peak scroll]

It shouldn't really drop unless u have all not void things

Like all phys

And the nodes after are damage multis too

[ionic inlet]

Imo just play and test, you'll learn that way

[vernal frigate]

[reef sundial]

I just hit level 75 at the last 3 Monoliths. I want to switch from the Judgement leveling build to something more mobile. Any ideas for VK or Paladin?

[junior wren]

if you went with the good nodes, you're dealing void damage anyway, because

[peak scroll]

VK 📈 paladin 📉

[junior wren]

oh don't worry, paladin is chilling 😼

started my alt yesterday, killed lvl 90 harby at lvl 60 😄

[muted oar]

its kinda bait, like the guy asking why he's squishy when he's wearing a ring that gives him 15% pen and nothing else compared to 12 vit 50% inc armor. Its okay if you actively use the evade i suppose

[vernal frigate]

anyone pop all 5 shades at the same time in confluence just to feel something

[ionic inlet]

Judgement aura is mobile and you can use a spear with Holy Trail + Lunge.
Otherwise I'd say some version of devour orb, a lot of people play warpath but it's 1 button only

[vernal frigate]

😔

[muted oar]

also harder to get 2-3 lp

[junior wren]

I agree, I run carcinization myself 😄

[vernal frigate]

🦀

[junior wren]

but sometimes I do miss the dodge

[muted oar]

yea if u arent playing warpath its probably more viable

but the evade didnt look that reliable

[balmy seal]

I’m at 919 corruption right now with my pally. Is there a reason to push that any further or am I close to a sweet spot?

[muted oar]

last phase uber abby and theres random spirits in the circle just porting u to random spots

[junior wren]

sweet spot is where you can farm the fastest/most comfortably. 600 is good enough

[dense tendon]

you dont tp randomly if there's no spirit at your cursor you just do a short blink towards your cursor

[steady yew]

Any smite paladin here?

[ionic inlet]

What's up?

[steady yew]

Looking for peoples build to improve mine feel not tanky enough I’m playing a crit fire one

But all the people i see going smite are either vk or lightning

[junior wren]

that choice won't really impact your tankiness, so no worries there

are you using healing hands proc to generate ward?

[dense tendon]

well vk stacks vitality for damage which does make it tankier

[ionic inlet]

I feel like VK is nicer than pally for smite, has more things to use than just your smite (judge aura is ok but still)

[steady yew]

Well it kinda does since you have to be lucky to get 2lp on your build and slam with mana for devotion and hit your max health roll on top of it

[junior wren]

pally stacks attunement which then translates armor against dots, so they each get something

[steady yew]

My smite tooltip is already over 1.3M but i lack some res and only 2.6k hp

[steady yew]

Depends on build as smite you stack mana and elemental over time dmg

[junior wren]

you said you're playing crit fire build, and you stack elemental dot?

[earnest iris]

what is cleanse ailments on potion use from all those guide builds for? some boss mechanic?

[steady yew]

Cleanse debuff slow dot etc

[steady yew]

Cause of fissure

[ionic inlet]

Aberroth basically

[steady yew]

Never said my build made sense 😅

[junior wren]

not just abby, in high corruption, you mess up and get poisoned by 20 poison stacks, you could quickly die from it, so instead you press potion and remove those 20 poisons

[steady yew]

But i have over 50% crit and like 350crit multiplier without specific crit roll on my gear

[earnest iris]

how high corruption we talking?

[junior wren]

the reason people play lightning smite fissure, because last patch added a DoT multiplier to the paladin tree. It only works on lightning, not fire.

[steady yew]

? Wut why?

[junior wren]

it scales from crit multi, so you're basically playing the lightning smite fissure, but without the lightning

..which sounds like a terrible idea 😄

[junior wren]

depends on your build. paper builds can die from poison in 600. tanky builds die higher ofc

[steady yew]

Oh just saw it F I wasn’t aware of that

[alpine canopy]

Void fissure also has the void beam to help it

[waxen nymph]

Watcha playing?

[waxen nymph]

No dreams just Beams

[junior wren]

I guess fire fissure has the Righteous Firebrand going for it, but that requires you to stack healing, so HH or judgement is now your life

[junior wren]

lightning javelin hit build

at first I also had hammer throw, but javelin beats it hard

[alpine canopy]

There's also torch, which you could scale flat for with that missing mana amulet
(But you could get similar benefits on any flavor with just ladle instead of torch)

[waxen nymph]

Javelin do be stronk

[ionic inlet]

+8 lightning damage to hammer idol though

[junior wren]

yeah but hammer is physical 😄

never really understood why the idols have lightning

[waxen nymph]

I am a bit disappointed by the cap on Divine Bolts on melee hit

[alpine canopy]

Thor

[waxen nymph]

Would love a lightning conversion instead

[junior wren]

I am disappointed that you get 1 bolt when there's 1 target

hope it's a bug and they fix it

[waxen nymph]

Even with all the extra bolts??

[junior wren]

well, you get 3 bolts with the +1 additionals from pally tree

but HH node says 5

[ionic inlet]

Well hammers have a base damage of 22, 3 idols and it has 24 lightning? Hm

[waxen nymph]

Not like they shotgun anyway

[junior wren]

so I expected to always fire 7 on HH use + 3 on melee hits

[waxen nymph]

That's for HH direct cast, not melee proccs

[ionic inlet]

Yeah could have 100 bolts but only 1 will hit the enemy, the double proc is cool though from the idol since it will hit twice

[junior wren]

I know, I was doing a melee HH build

so i got the best of both worlds 🙂

but it doesn't work, so RIP 😄

[ionic inlet]

But the chance is giga low

[steady yew]

There’s a healing hand build i saw and it was not projectile cap maybe a bug from indirect cast

[junior wren]

also, they probably should make them shotgun. It's pretty okay for mapclear rn, but on bosses it sucks

so maybe make them shotgun vs. rare/bosses?

[ionic inlet]

Didn't they shotgun on release?

[junior wren]

if only that gave the hammer a lightning tag

[ionic inlet]

Yeah, old and forgotten idol

[neon tusk]

got my first 3lp but the mods are mid?

[ionic inlet]

Can always re-roll the affixes

[junior wren]

Not sure, https://youtu.be/jui0pGBVMzc?t=595 here it look like they do. Look at the birds to the right side.

[neon tusk]

do u recommend slamming first or reroll first

[junior wren]

But ppl keep saying they don't. So idk

[neon tusk]

is the void pen mod the most important one? anything else?

[steady yew]

https://youtu.be/oTWrFRBp1Sg?si=sKSgioMZZEeyLvf5 on this build it does shotgun not sure if there’s a tech to make it work tho seems like you need to heal from HH to proc bolts

[ionic inlet]

Can't say, dunno how it works, haven't re-rolled anything yet

[spring pollen]

WHere do you reroll affixes?

[ionic inlet]

6 days ago, yeah yeah they don't shotgun now

[neon tusk]

gauntlet of strife

[spring pollen]

ty

[junior wren]

see? that's the problem. I literally linked a video saying they do shotgun, and you just told me they don't

[steady yew]

I linked the most recent one 3D ago and they do so i think there’s something with the affix on the glove

[dim vortex]

is it possible to reroll after slam? not tried before

[neon tusk]

it doesnt cost fp, need same lp or higher

[junior wren]

affix on the glove is needed to proc divine bolts. Because bolts only get created when you heal something (including yourself).

[neon tusk]

so 3lp can reroll 3lp

[steady yew]

What about dragon heart?

[junior wren]

you don't need it

[steady yew]

I mean if you don’t have the affix does it work the same way?

[junior wren]

no, it's a different affix

[ionic inlet]

It's hard for me to see and I played it before, tested it and they didn't shotgun

[junior wren]

heart takes away your HP on cast and gives you ward. So at the moment of cast your HP is full = no bolts.
glove affix takes away your HP each second and gives you ward. So at the moment of cast your HP is never full = divine bolts created.

[ionic inlet]

I looked at a old video from a year ago as well, Idk it's hard to see

[steady yew]

Arf so you have to get an affix that consume hp/s to make it work sad

[junior wren]

I mean it could work

but you must not have any HP regen, leech, healing

and healing hands literally heals 😄

[alpine canopy]

Now that they made chaining hammers a possible thing, I'm just waiting for a 1h mace uniqe that converts hammer throw to lightning with chaining bonuses, or something along those lines.

[neon tusk]

Are there no lensesfor minor idols?

how do u farm these

[junior wren]

that would be a great addition. But I'm still not sure about the flat lightning idols 😄

[steady yew]

Y really hard to get this affix everything that need exiled mage gear is hard

[alpine canopy]

Small idols lens might work? They used to be the same idol category

[junior wren]

it's only hard while leveling. After you get the first one, life is good

[alpine canopy]

Not sure though

[steady yew]

Y might try to swap to this look more tanky than my smite build

[junior wren]

I play MG and HP affixes are crazy costly thanks to gold dupes anyway, so Ward ftw. I got lucky and slammed these gloves first try

[steep trail]

is it wise to get a glove with t7 armor shred istaid of mana for ES ?

and switch this for a void dmg isntaid of shred ?

[junior wren]

btw. you don't really have to swap anything. You can have HP and stack Ward on top. If you use Heart to generate ward, it'll stack with Ward from HH, and you'll still get healed by your smites

[steep trail]

im only gonna lse 10% crit dmg if i change it

[steady yew]

Best is both but yeah will give it a try tonight

[solar vale]

is there a way to target farm Sentinel idols? I've setup my filter to recolor idols with the stats I want but I never see them

[steep trail]

maybe you didnt drop them

[neon tusk]

im at 650 mana, do i respec to world splitter?

[solar vale]

quite possibly

[neon tusk]

for warpath

[steady yew]

Blessing for the idol type and prophecy

[steep trail]

you can try but with only 1 point in this

[neon tusk]

i am warpath sry

[ionic inlet]

Yes, ZiggyD has a great video of all the things you can do to juice it up

[solar vale]

great ty

[neon tusk]

@alpine canopy you're right, small ones influence minor idols

[steep trail]

i dont know if world splitter is for warpath

never tried it

[ionic inlet]

I hate trying to get a code, no rune of weaving left so I gotta swap it out and do my skills every time

[neon tusk]

im gonan experiment

[ionic inlet]

I'm not entirely sure how you can farm weaver idols since it only drops in tombs

[steep trail]

tell me if it works

i kinda want to try it for myself

[hidden wren]

[vernal frigate]

yo i think shade of orobyss drops items for all players in party, i cant see a "host only" drop for it

i am currently just pushing corruption (at 1.1k atm), if i get an echo i will drop a msg and invite anyone who wants to come

[steep trail]

dude

[vernal frigate]

particularly good for belt and 3lp ring if anyone wants to come

[steep trail]

thats like priceless

[hidden wren]

Im cof

its over

[junior wren]

yep

[steep trail]

how impactful is armor shred for ES VK ?

[alpine canopy]

Glad to hear that!

[vernal frigate]

extremely

[neon tusk]

its the last thing im gonna try
would need melee crit chance + attack speed

[vernal frigate]

you want at least 1 source

[steep trail]

is 55% enough in idol ?

[cerulean sorrel]

what prophecy do I need to farm the minor weaver idols

[vernal frigate]

yeah

[neon tusk]

small, i just got plenty of them

[steep trail]

would 200+% be better in a glove isntaid of 100 mana ?

and have void dmg back in idol

[ionic inlet]

For sure but if you want to farm class idols you can do like 10 things from what I can recall you can just do those prophecies and small idol from abomination

[vestal mirage]

It works

[vernal frigate]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/armor

@moe

[vestal mirage]

I did a bunch of idol farming last night

[vernal frigate]

if you have 50 shred stacks for example, thats like 60% MORE damage

a bit less for non phys

[steep trail]

i dont have 50 tacks

stacks

[junior wren]

I was just about to say you should switch to void yeah

[steep trail]

i can never reach it

[vernal frigate]

i think with 55 you should probably get maybe 15-20

[steep trail]

on uber

[neon tusk]

how does this translate to warpath?

[vernal frigate]

on worldsplitter

[neon tusk]

is it just 0.5 because mana cost is 1?

[vernal frigate]

yeah it doesnt count channel cost only base cost iirc

[junior wren]

yes

[neon tusk]

then its trash

[junior wren]

yes 😄

but the area of effect is nice

[neon tusk]

im good lol

i run so fast at 110% move speed idc for area anymore

[junior wren]

actually scratch that, area is also mana cost

[neon tusk]

how does that work

[solar solstice]

Im at 160% speed and it feels funny

[ionic inlet]

Can you re-roll implicits on uniques?

[neon tusk]

yes

[junior wren]

I meant the affix on Worldsplitter, I thought you get area per max mana, but you get area per mana cost, so it's the same as the crit bonus in your question

[steep trail]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ what i want to try
https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/mouhawr/character/Voidmou what i have currently @vernal frigate

[neon tusk]

i did this on my nihilis

[steep trail]

what changed is the glove and second sentinal idol

[solar solstice]

Wait what, can you reroll implicits on uniques?

[analog steppe]

There’s an echo for it

[solar solstice]

Oh god

[neon tusk]

yes

[vernal frigate]

need to update your "what you want to try" link

[neon tusk]

it divines like poe2

[dim vortex]

@vestal mirage get any good idols?

[analog steppe]

requires another copy of the unique with equal or higher lp

[solar solstice]

Oh i see

[neon tusk]

this includes nemesis adding lp randomly

[dim vortex]

I got these bad boys @vestal mirage

[ionic inlet]

Does it re-roll everything or do you choose implicit/affixes?

[analog steppe]

better way to say it is legendary affixes added from nemesis not added lp from nemesis

Because they work too

It rerolls everything

Can’t target just the bad ones

[steep trail]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bjev1YWQ

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,406, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 948.52, Regen: 13.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 65 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 8 Att / 26 Vit
▸ Resistances: 100% / 82% / 82% / 67% / 69% / 57% / 85%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 72%, Threshold: 1,201
▸ Armor Mitigation: 74% (7,828)

Used skills:

Erasing Strike / Healing Hands / Devouring Orb / Symbols of Hope / Anomaly

[supple harbor]

This looks insane for Judgment Paladin

[sharp osprey]

🤔 I can't figure out which makes my dps higher.
I'm doing a manifest armor crit build. and my crit chance is around 100% w/ the right weapon, but I get more attack speed with the left weapon.

[analog steppe]

Looks like a bog standard item to me

Nothing can be called insane if it isn’t multi exalted imo

[vernal frigate]

yeah you can try that but unspec 1 in time loop

or you use too much mana

personally dont think its worth running shred on gloves

[boreal bridge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qbe2aM3A
I'm committed, still finding more weaver idols hahaha
Anyone has anything I can improve from here?

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 93

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (66) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,352, Regen: 172.03/s
▸ Mana: 118.97, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 40 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 183% / 94% / 87% / 87% / 76% / 37% / 84%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 493
▸ Dodge Chance: 8% (221)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 59% (4,065)
▸ Block Chance: 63%, Mitigation: 46% (1,640)

Used skills:

Ring Of Shields / Volatile Reversal / Shield Throw / Shield Bash / Symbols of Hope

[supple harbor]

Im a casual. Let me dream

[vernal frigate]

will let you know when i find one 👍 4 web resets and none so far, so ass to farm for

[steep trail]

ill try with a T7 shred and a t7 mana exalts

and see what works best

before investing

[vernal frigate]

sounds good

[junior wren]

it is pretty good, probably hp over cold res, but cold res could be useful too. you can sell it well if you're MG

[dense tendon]

how do you reset it without fighting a shade 🤔

[vernal frigate]

pathed out max and couldnt find a confluence :( so just did regular shade

[steep trail]

keep in mind, its not the only thing im gaining, im gaining 80%+ more void mele dmg in idol

thats gotta mean something

[vernal frigate]

increased*

[steep trail]

yea

increased

[vernal frigate]

but yea its good

[steep trail]

all against 100mana ( 10% crit dmg and 55% shred )

[vernal frigate]

dont go crit multi

2lp ws is rare enough, you want armor shred or void pen

[faint scarab]

i dont get flames of midnight

seems so overrated

[junior wren]

why wouldn't you go crit multi?

[dense tendon]

20 ms is 20 ms

[vernal frigate]

less value, and void pen/shred are hard to get on other gear

[junior wren]

I would imagine crit multi is hard to get, as it is a prefix 🤔

[dense tendon]

the axe gives a lot of it and so does vk

[vernal frigate]

theres also diminishing returns above like 400% where amor shred/void pen would give you wayyyy more damage

and its quite easy to hit 400% with worldsplitter

[junior wren]

diminishing returns on crit multi? 👀

[alpine canopy]

Almost everything is subject to diminishing returns at some point

[faint scarab]

are there any calcs/charts for efficiency of flat void melee vs flat melee vs increased melee vs increased void vs void pen etc

some of it is straight forward but idk how valuable void pen is

hard to find info about how much resists enemies have and how much dmg reduction it gives them

[dense tendon]

diminishing returns is when you get less value from stacking one thing
this is just linear returns vs synergy from investing in multiple different stats

[junior wren]

most enemies have zero resists and no calcs im aware of

[vernal frigate]

no calcs only spreadsheets

[faint scarab]

same thing right lol

got a link?

[alpine canopy]

Enemies have 0% resists and 0 armor by default, so penetration is a direct multiplier on your damage usually, similar to increased damage or crit multi.

[faint scarab]

ohhh damn

[vernal frigate]

1 sec finding it

[faint scarab]

which enemies are the exception

i assume big bosses?

[dense tendon]

i would havoc until a suffix becomes t2
then despair the suffix and slam armor shred then havoc until t7 void t6 armor shred

[alpine canopy]

No it's not, don't go all Cookbook on us

[vernal frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CMkNFlZjvQ this is the one i used

[lament star]

glyph of despair the t2 fire, craft melee speed havoc rune to get t6 melee speed and t7 void

[faint scarab]

which one handed axe are you going for?

oh yeah

wrong model lol

[dense tendon]

t3 is still decent chance

[lament star]

ye

[dense tendon]

unfortunate

[lament star]

now u do the red one

and pray

no not that red

this one

[faint scarab]

nice ty

[peak scroll]

Yea, it's about relative gains

[vernal frigate]

@plush orchid got a confluence ready

[lament star]

lol you forgot something

[vernal frigate]

anyone want to join for 1.2k corruption confluence

[lament star]

you can roll the 1/100 then 1/4

[vernal frigate]

pretty sure it drops siphons/shattered chains for everyone

[peak scroll]

Drop like 9 siphon lol

[vernal frigate]

its ok i wont (hopefully xd)

[junior wren]

I'd say most people might 😄

[vernal frigate]

last call

[peak scroll]

1.2k is like 1.8k in there

[vernal frigate]

i pop all 5 and kill at 1.1k it makes me feel alive...

ok nice confluence drops belts for everyone, tested with Name

i will ask again when i see one

you did plenty

we smacked em

prob armor shred and then go inc void on idol

yis

[dense tendon]

how many 2 lp axes do you have

[lament star]

I wouldnt slam that

[alpine canopy]

It's fine to slam on a 1 LP

[lament star]

1/3 chance to get a good 2nd affic

[alpine canopy]

You can imprint it before slam if you want

[vernal frigate]

if you imprint it takes the FP of the imprint

[alpine canopy]

It can roll a few additional FP

Ah, then yeah no use slamming it imo

[lament star]

Oh i didnt know about imprint giving u 0fp gear

[vernal frigate]

np then fingers crossed

[lament star]

Does imprint give you same base or does base item change randomly

[vernal frigate]

sometimes the same

[dense tendon]

it starts off as the exact same item then does random changes on it

[lament star]

I have an untouched x3 t7 somewhere

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, it looks at all aspects of the item, everything

[alpine canopy]

Any part of it can change

[ionic inlet]

Can you turn this off somehow?

(The tomb on minimap)

[vernal frigate]

no :(

very annoyin

[lament star]

Btw are woven echo considered as tomb?

[dense tendon]

imma try facetanking the reign of dragon boss aoe at 700c

oh man

[vernal frigate]

close

[lament star]

I think rune works for havoc farming

It drops 22 runes

44 with more cost modifier

[dim vortex]

I hate how you have to hold alt all the time too

bad design I think

[eager lily]

You can toggle this on/off in the bottom corner of the telescope menu iirc

[dim vortex]

oh really?

thanks

not sure how I missed that

[arctic loom]

@vernal frigate i have a feeling that melee attack speed is not BiS in worldsplitter. atleast if you're up against uber

I tried pacing my attacks like 1 to 2 clicks per stop. it was faster lol

cause the echoes are doing more damage because of the ornate idols

would've been better if shred + melee void damage. so I can use mana on the glove

[sleek zealot]

This happened to me with LP2 world splitter, rolling shred onto it makes gloves very flexible

[glossy pine]

im playing whit smelters wrath and it scalaes fire physical mele now my question is i have one LP armor is it better to put fire damage or smelthers wrath damage ?

[sleek zealot]

Also you more or less don't have shred as an option on gloves when you start using vise

Cause you're likely putting mana on the slam

[arctic loom]

ok! so i would need to farm 2LP worlsplitter again T_T

[sleek zealot]

Honestly I had too

My first one gave me melee void and t5 melee crit chance

Second one I got armor shred out crit strike multi and void pen

[feral horizon]

Finally a semi successful craft!
HP went from 4832 -> 5153

[arctic loom]

yeah i have 2 vise (both 1LP). 1 mana and 1 shred. so if use mana, i'm gonna do shred on idols?

[sleek zealot]

That'd be a way to do it unless you can get it on world shatter or amulet even

[arctic loom]

hmmm if shuffle my idols, i would be losing 150% void damage in exchange of like 90% chance to shred

[sleek zealot]

Probably have to plug in calculator, but like, T7 mana on vise feels like a big deal to me

[arctic loom]

damn too hard

True. Will try

[spring pollen]

Are you sealing the set affixes on all 3 pieces of gear? I might have to try this bear set out

[feral horizon]

yepp

[arctic loom]

dafuq. after 4mins i killed uber lol thanks for that!

I had like 1383 mana. so the burst regen of Void Well was high

[sleek zealot]

Yeah sometimes with voidwell if you're kinda lower on mana side it feels awkward

Not to mention armor shred stacks will fall off if you can't constanty hit

[vestal mirage]

Nice!! I've gotten a few of the stout ones but no good class idols yet. Plan on fixing that today

[turbid spade]

anyone able to run me thru some bosses im lv 38 and i stared yesterday im new

[feral horizon]

just remember that on the chest it's a prefix, and helm and gloves it's a suffix

[ionic inlet]

[vestal mirage]

Biiig

[kind mantle]

How viable is a thorns build?

[sleek zealot]

By the way, how much easier does uber abby feel with vise on?

[arctic loom]

I got tanky because of it. It’s a must In my opinion,

[vernal frigate]

SOO easy omg

[dense tendon]

vise lets me tank every flail slam unless im shocked

[sleek zealot]

I got vise last night, and now I have to farm him, but I don't want to be as stressful as progging him lol

That's good, I am probably underestimating how good vise is

[lilac sparrow]

just 2% more

[vestal mirage]

when shields are up 🙂

(shield bash gains damage up to 150%)

[lilac sparrow]

😂

are there other source for block chance

i am playing vk

[vestal mirage]

there's the blessing if you don't already have it

[sleek zealot]

Are you supposed to block on VK?

[lilac sparrow]

oh yeah this

[vestal mirage]

that works

[lilac sparrow]

i mean not everyone likes to play erasing strike vk

to me it felt boring when i dont make my own build

[sleek zealot]

Ah, nvm didn't know it was different vk

[lilac sparrow]

i am playing dot void wizard build

so i use shield + scepter

[sleek zealot]

That's actually pretty cool

[lilac sparrow]

thanks

[vestal mirage]

big hammer

[dim vortex]

What shield is that with?

[lilac sparrow]

i like this ngl

just one point

and its +3 chance

[vestal mirage]

ye it's really good

[valid ledge]

hi guys, I am playing judgement paladin, what is preferred for the belt coz i only have lp1. elem dot or health hybrid?

life right now is only at 2559, running 500 corruption

[vestal mirage]

at the end of the day your dam is fine. so probably hp

[dim vortex]

Ah how are you finding that vs horns?

[vestal mirage]

a little less damage but being at block chance is nice

[dim vortex]

hmm I think I'm at 99% or 100% with horns atm

[lilac sparrow]

this is actually the best shield this season

[vestal mirage]

still farming for a potential 2lp horns tho

[lilac sparrow]

the options is too good

what is horns btw

[vestal mirage]

1 sec

[dim vortex]

from reign of dragons

horns of ukreahrheahreaf

[lilac sparrow]

ah i knew it

the thing that increases mana cost?

[dim vortex]

yeah

[lilac sparrow]

what's good about it

i honestly thought its MLM

[vestal mirage]

lots of strength and block efffect

which is huge for bash

[lilac sparrow]

oh makes sense

[twilit valley]

Just had a lp4 hand of judgement drop from blood frost , problem is how can I upgrade the stats at guantlet , another lp4 would be needed to upgrade ?

[lilac sparrow]

guess if you ahve 100% block

its easy to regen mana back

i just realized

[vestal mirage]

I got a really nice mana roll on nihilis so mana isn't an issue anymore

[lilac sparrow]

devouring orb are at its peak when they are close to each other

their damage stacks

why did i even get the node that increases their range

[harsh nova]

For monolith clear distance is good but u need like 26 points before you can dedicate anything to it because of the void pen, half cooldown, and more global void damage nodes, theres also 5 points for more damage on center left

[turbid dome]

👆

[harsh nova]

Also 4 points for duration nodes after void pen nodes

[lilac sparrow]

what duration?

[harsh nova]

Some of these nodes need to be 3 points not 5

[lilac sparrow]

world rot?

[harsh nova]

Left side under void pen nodes

They connect to the void pen

4 points for like 25% increased duration

[karmic sparrow]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-oH0UQ86_bo#

This guy sold me on seed helmet

[shrewd sentinel]

Does anyone know a good strategy for farming shades for apathy's maw and shattering chains? I don't get them from the pity shade and feels like there should be something better than just imprinting confluence / allocating shade nodes and branching out
thanks!

[harsh nova]

Farm 300c as fast as u can and push outward

You need to be objective rushing

[vernal frigate]

thats about it, also all arena nodes for faster pathing

[shrewd sentinel]

Yeah that's what I've been doing ;-;
Just feels lame lol I want to go back to trove farming

[lilac sparrow]

yeah that's world rot

so i need to max void pen too right?

[harsh nova]

Yes

[lilac sparrow]

let me try to build t7 devouring orb

20 alone isnt enough

wdf

[harsh nova]

Im on t5 dev orb atm

[turbid dome]

Grab the weaver tree nodes shade trap and the one that lets the woven shade gauntlet echo appear

[harsh nova]

And i need at least 5 more points

[shrewd sentinel]

Yeah I have those allocated already I guess it's just a slog to get the 2lp

turtle needs to be kinder

[turbid dome]

Only other suggestion is crank that corruption up as high as you can and blitz shades all day

*high as you can without really slowing down your farming

[dim vortex]

with rebuke still?

[vestal mirage]

yee

[lilac sparrow]

guess this should work

[twilit jungle]

if i already have this base Do i really care about critical avoidance?

[vestal mirage]

nope

[twilit jungle]

thinking of getting a health belt instead

[vestal mirage]

you can get 1 affix on a different piece for the last 30%

[lilac sparrow]

@harsh nova @turbid dome how's this

i have to give up on half cost chance

to maximize penetration

😦

[turbid dome]

Solid

More consistent than going for the half cost half cooldown node

But also no silly hit the half cost half cooldown 4 times in a row and echo each time shenanigans

[lilac sparrow]

true

i can just supplement half cost

by having high cdr

which i currently have

[faint scarab]

i have 3700 hp and maxed out resistances and im still dying in one hit from full

😭

[dense tendon]

from what

[lilac sparrow]

max endurance?

how's armor

[faint scarab]

actually my poison resistance is only at 66% thats why i must be dying 🤓

[lilac sparrow]

sir

you got stacked by alot of poison

[faint scarab]

no

[lilac sparrow]

and they also reduce poison re

[faint scarab]

a harbringer oneshot me

[lilac sparrow]

res

oh

[faint scarab]

did 4k dmg in one hit

[lilac sparrow]

how's your endurance

[faint scarab]

34%

[granite meteor]

for Null Portent, when it says "above the normal resistance cap" , is that excess resistances across all of my resistances? or just physical resistance?

[dense tendon]

each resistance seperately

ie 115 physical reduces physical damage by 20%

[granite meteor]

so if this is my resistances, that means i'm taking full advantage?

[vestal mirage]

holy ignite sword

actually nvm

[granite meteor]

oh i see what you mean, EACH resistance

so i probably need 115 physical resistance

[chrome quest]

yes

[acoustic sapphire]

what build

[junior wren]

one with just armor 😄

[dense tendon]

the one with 63fp if it has double t7

[turbid dome]

Make sure to craft all the not exalted mods to T5

Incase the randomly selected mod hits a not exalted affix

Oh wait shit you said imprint

Ignore me

[quiet hearth]

dont feel bad engi, I was in rogue chat answering questions wondering why people were asking rogue questions

[lilac sparrow]

@turbid dome what do you think of this node

i think its good if i have a bunch of orb floating around me

[zealous elk]

OH EHG STAFFS PLEASE FIX THE BUG FOR FORGEMASTER'S MIGHT HASTE FOR BLOCK CHANCE!!!

[lilac sparrow]

and they all do void rift damage in one go

[turbid dome]

I don’t think that works with orbiting dorbs

[dense tendon]

the chance to get the affix on the same tier is so bad

[lilac sparrow]

hmm i see it is working

let me check

[turbid dome]

Fair enough

[dense tendon]

and if it has no fp you cant really use it

[turbid dome]

You can use havoc/redemption runes to get the T7s to affixes you want

[dense tendon]

are you mg or cof

[vestal mirage]

ooo could be good

[dense tendon]

i would still imprint that but you could try farming double t7

[vestal mirage]

gl me on redemptions

[turbid dome]

Farmin time

[dense tendon]

if you have like 8 million gold you can go to lightless armor and only click the rune stuff

and the chest duplication stuff

[turbid dome]

Oof

[dense tendon]

it's either prophecies, that arbor thing or farming uber abberoth xd

[vestal mirage]

deadge shield

[turbid dome]

Nice health

[turbid dome]

Rip

[dense tendon]

i think it's 2+ per kill not sure

[vestal mirage]

summoning all of the shades at the same time is so fun

on confluence

[turbid dome]

Ye

WELCOME TO THE ROYAL SHADE RUUUMMMBBBBLLLEEEEEE

[vernal frigate]

@plush orchid got a confluence need?

open invite to everyone

[dense tendon]

im down

[vernal frigate]

ok 2 echoes away i will invite and add

what was your ign again name

confluence all welcome

get your shattered chains !!!!

[vestal mirage]

I'm down tbh

[vernal frigate]

ok 1 sec

tp to me @vestal mirage

[vestal mirage]

ye

[wary dust]

Does "fire penetration with melee attacks" apply to the consecrated ground from judgement or only the hit?

[spring pollen]

What gives more HP, flat health, increased health or hybrid health? All T7

[turbid dome]

Look at the sub skill for the ground and what tags it has

[grizzled lake]

worth it to try and find something to LP this since it's LP3 or nah since the stats are kinda worst than what I have now.

that's a dumb question I guess, since 3 extra stats beat none extra stats

[vernal frigate]

yeah pretty worth

can always reroll the doom you will get a lot of 3lp

[vestal mirage]

you get so many rings you can easily re-roll for 3lp at turtle

[faint scarab]

how would you guys recommend crafting this?

[grizzled lake]

it's more problematic to find a decent exalted ring to use than noth really

[faint scarab]

i really wanna be efficient with this one

[dense tendon]

what mods do you need on it

[turbid dome]

Reroll the exalted affixes until you get +skill levels or %increased health as exalted affixes imo

[faint scarab]

health, mana

skill levels

[vernal frigate]

what build are you core

[turbid dome]

If your feeling lucky you could seal/remove the not exalted affix, apply your favorite skill affix, then use the rune to shuffle the affix tiers

[dense tendon]

i would start with despair then redemption until i hit one usable mod

[faint scarab]

es

[turbid dome]

Levels to erasing strike 👍

[chrome quest]

what do you guys think is the best to put here for judgement build slam?

[grizzled lake]

Erasing Strike VK

[vernal frigate]

str, inc void damage, health

4th mod ele res if you can

[turbid dome]

If by slam you mean a hit build, armor shred is never bad

If your doing the dot aura thing do not put shred there

[grizzled lake]

yeah, that will be a doozy to find, specially one with a t7 somewhere 😄 But I am just getting to corruption 200 so I think more stuff will drop at higher levels if I don't die on them

[vernal frigate]

yeah just hold onto it

[grizzled lake]

Unrelated: I want a void version for Healing Hands because it's ruining my fantasy being a void knight with still a shiny golden skill 😄

[chrome quest]

by slam i actually meant using them with LP item on julra dungeon, not sure how to call it

yeah im using dot judgement

[turbid dome]

Ohhh legendary slam

[grizzled lake]

that slam term comes from POE if I am not mistaken 😄

[granite meteor]

if i slam an exalted item with 2 affixes i want onto a 2LP item and one of the affixes doesn't hit, is there anything i can do to salvage the item?

[grizzled lake]

I don't think so

[hybrid turtle]

Ah finally a decent 1 lp shattering

[turbid dome]

I just think of poe slam skills first and crafting slams second

But yeah, close eyes -> slam exalt -> just as Chris intended

[glass pollen]

does anyone know if when using javelin with the auto smite. Is it a bug that the Fissure from Smite doesnt activate? or is that intentional

[dense tendon]

looks intentional

[turbid dome]

Fissure node says “directly casting smite”

[sand gorge]

Slams in Poe were when exalts were how you added random mods

[grizzled lake]

is there a way to get the Shade of Oribos reset faster than doing the whole web until the end after a reset? This is my highest Timeline so I don't have the auto reset that appears after the first echo

[sand gorge]

And it mean you were just yoloing a mod

[turbid dome]

Yea

[turbid dome]

Farm up the shade gauntlet woven echo

[sand gorge]

It usually ended in sadness 😂

[turbid dome]

Or hope the shade trap works a lot

[dense tendon]

well it was random on last epoch too until this season

[turbid dome]

Ah yes I def wanted 1 to 4 fire damage on my pure phys axe

?

Oh legendary slamming right

That was the convo

[glass pollen]

oh got it!

[sand gorge]

Hahaha

[grizzled lake]

what's a shade trap. And I have to find the woven echo then, ty

[steep trail]

is there a faster way to farm Shattered Chains ?

[sand gorge]

CoF with the boss drop rate thing

But it took like 40 shades for me to drop them 😦

[steep trail]

ouch, im MG

[turbid dome]

Shade trap is a node in the upper left of the weaver tree, makes the shade randomly appear in echos

The shade gauntlet woven echo is a special woven echo that needs a node to get (bottom left of the weaver tree)

[steep trail]

i already have that on

and im runing on 1.2kC

[turbid dome]

Other than the shade gauntlet echo, just keep farmin

[steep trail]

so basicly i need to travel far in the monolith to have a chance of getting the drop

[turbid dome]

Yes

[steep trail]

thats annoying

thanks

and you can imprint it ?

in weaver tree ?

[turbid dome]

The shade woven echo? Or the belt

[steep trail]

belt

[turbid dome]

I’d assume so? Tho a lot of people have been saying imprinted stuff doesn’t help boss drops

I haven’t sat there and tested it so not sure

[steep trail]

no i get that, its just for a chance in other situations

like completing an echo

[analog steppe]

any unique that drops from specific locations/bosses only cannot be gotten from imprints

it says so in the tooltip

[turbid dome]

Ah I’m blind

[steep trail]

well shit

i guess theres no shortcuts for this belt

[vestal mirage]

why does my idol just not exist

[silk wasp]

Which?

[turbid dome]

Taxes

[vestal mirage]

already double and triple checked to make sure my filter isn't hiding it

[grizzled lake]

I will bet you money that I will get that block chance on that LP3 Anguish. Or should try it on a LP2 Midnight since there's better chances there

[silk wasp]

Idk, crit and block are both common affixes. The pool is really large though

[vestal mirage]

I've done 10 or so huge idol prophecies so far

nothin

[grizzled lake]

oh there's some logic to the LP stuff? I tought it was totally random aside form the guaranteed affix

[cerulean sorrel]

last phase of abberoth is cancer

100 stacks of DR

literally dont know what to do

[turbid dome]

Bring a last laugh in your backpack and execute him at 20% remaining health

[grizzled lake]

ykw, yolo

[faint scarab]

wait

[cerulean sorrel]

its ok i just killed him with raw gamer ability

[faint scarab]

🧠

[vernal frigate]

got confluence if anyone needs shattered chains or siphons

open for all (leaving in 1 min, got 2 people here)

(it drops for everyone)

[cerulean sorrel]

1lp relic

[prisma surge]

can anyone boots me some lv on alt char?

[vestal mirage]

it's already so fast to level an alt

[grizzled lake]

well. I apparently misplaced the aforementioned ring. fml

[turbid dome]

🫂

[cerulean sorrel]

do i slap t7 mana or t7 melee attack speed? warpath build

[vestal mirage]

time for 5 more huge idol prophecies

surely soon

[bold mulch]

What are generally good affixes for LP rings? Specially phantom grips for FW builds?

[silk wasp]

I use Minion DMG/STR

You can only get minion damage on a couple slots so you kinda have to take it where it comes

[bold mulch]

Nemesis gave me minion damage o my ring so not bad

Why STR?

[cerulean sorrel]

depends how much mana you have

[cerulean sorrel]

507

[silk wasp]

Extra armor and damage for your other moves

[cerulean sorrel]

i'd probably go mana but if you can get it elsewhere then id go attack speed

[quiet hearth]

man, these fateweavers need to be toned back, that stun chance is ridiculous

[bold mulch]

So not attunement them? Thanks

[turbid dome]

Someone didn’t spec the anti stun node

[quiet hearth]

Im not on my sent lol, otherwise I wouldnt have noticed

[turbid dome]

Fair

[vale ravine]

they cant stun you if you erase them from existence before they have a chance to move 👀

[turbid dome]

This guy gets it

[silk wasp]

Depends on how you've built, but probably not. I run 40 att for vengeance weapon gen and the rest goes to strength

A t7 att slam on chest and your two att passives should be enough

[vernal frigate]

confluence here if anyone needs shattered chains/siphons (drops for everyone)

[bold mulch]

I'm using multistrike instead of vengeance for FW generation

[silk wasp]

Then you might not need att at all

[bold mulch]

I thought attunement because of The node that reduces dot, and more FW damage and health

So i can skip attunement them

[grizzled lake]

F**** told you lol

[vernal frigate]

F

[quiet hearth]

Att stacking with Vengeance isnt a bad idea with iron blade

[vernal frigate]

still good atleast u got hp

[grizzled lake]

(the exalted ring was on the crafting screen, thankfully)

[faint scarab]

can i slam a relic from another class onto a relic for my class?

[dense tendon]

yes but if it's a mod for that class only then you cant use it

[ionic inlet]

Time to roll shield bash and use that, it's 10/10 for it

[turbid dome]

I gotta try that some time

[faint scarab]

nice

the 7+6 rogue relic works then

[quiet hearth]

You only need 40 attun to hit 100%, I wanna get a good swordcatcher and use FW for parry chance

[vestal mirage]

what in the hell is this unique

[quiet hearth]

rebuke gaming

[grizzled lake]

lol

[waxen nymph]

I actually have an idea that might use that

[grizzled lake]

you can't use the mod or you can't use the relic at all until you roll that mod out?

[vestal mirage]

vlad cooking?

[cerulean sorrel]

i forgot to equip my ekki for uber and i beat him anyway lol

[ionic inlet]

Melee vit stacking build for sure

[dense tendon]

you cant equip the item

[grizzled lake]

oh shit, ok, that's a bad way to brick shit

[vale ravine]

i mean that's super good for multistrike triggered smite no?

vit, health, more damage, rest are fluff

[ionic inlet]

The amulet? Yea

[silk wasp]

That's what I'm using now

[ionic inlet]

Double stacking health from vit in VK tree and that amulet would be nice

[crimson monolith]

Yall think a manifest armor build could work at all?

[ionic inlet]

And you can get 5 vit 5 spell damage idols for smite

[lilac sparrow]

chat what is your take

[grizzled lake]

It doesn't provide corruption or resets tho

[grizzled lake]

troll, don't feed it

also disable chat 😄

[lilac sparrow]

sometimes you find something funny

lmao

[grizzled lake]

oh wait, they said COMPLETE, not COMPLEX. Ok, I can see a point to be made there since D4 is older by a bit

[crimson monolith]

I enjoy them both tbh

[shrewd sentinel]

holy crap i just got this from a random shade in my map

[lilac sparrow]

diablo 4 had too much bad reviews i didnt bother playing

[shrewd sentinel]

abyssal trap is the best node

[silk wasp]

Shield Throw Manifest should still be good. I've been trying it in my FW build and it hits like a truck but dies really fast without dedicated healing.

[quiet hearth]

now of only we could get more FW

[turbid dome]

Yeah but if your farming shade you get shade drops from the bonus shade from shade trap

[grizzled lake]

samesies, the changes on the battle pass are kinda bad tho

[turbid dome]

Shade trap paying off

[faint scarab]

yes please

[grizzled lake]

wish the screenshots or the echo screen showed the corruption level

[vestal mirage]

I may not kill them that fast but I sure as hell can take a beating

[quiet hearth]

vengeance with 30% parry sound hilarious honestly, go 2h and shield and get max block and just be like, we aint dyin today

[vestal mirage]

sounds fun

[quiet hearth]

couple that with something like wall of nothing for % chance to just take no dmg

[lilac sparrow]

What is this node

Never encountered this yet

[vestal mirage]

confluence of oblivion

[turbid dome]

You need a node in the bottom left of the weaver tree to get it

It’s a woven echo

[shell sedge]

does world splitter work with warpath? I've heard the mana cost aspect doesnt.

but was just random global chat so idk

[dense tendon]

mana cost is always 1

[lilac sparrow]

Pretty sure this is the bis for melee vk

[vestal mirage]

it's bis for erasing

[shell sedge]

rlly? most guides ive seen use needle or apathy

yeah i meant warpath

[turbid dome]

The crit part per mana cost, no, the max mana part yes

Mana cost =\=channel cost =\= mana consumed

[slate delta]

Yea only really big for Erasing Strike

[shell sedge]

ah man thats too bad

[slate delta]

I've seen Warpath builds go Needle

[lilac sparrow]

@quiet hearth https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480944488999813130/1367911085839224852/image.png?ex=68164df9&is=6814fc79&hm=1072d7d25750f55e3d4aadeb2dbfa4ff32c9220e04ea3e8ad624bd6230f9d0c4&

Look what I found in the chat lol

[turbid dome]

Yeah most warpath goes needle so you can cap parry chance

[golden dove]

needle farm made me wanna die so i want maw instead, much nicer

[slate delta]

Warparry

[turbid dome]

Understandable

[slate delta]

How do you farm it?

[lilac sparrow]

Goodluck on needle

[golden dove]

also theres the sceptre variant

[lilac sparrow]

Just go do cemetery

Getting them is easy

[shell sedge]

i dont enjoy warpath as much as i thought, the constant gaining/losing aoe feels bad

so figured world splitter would be perfect

oh well

sadge

[lilac sparrow]

The hardest part is how random affixes you'll get

And if it's something you need

[slate delta]

Cemetery doesn't drop needles, you need a tomb with the correct type of boss

[lilac sparrow]

Ah yeah I mean tomb

[slate delta]

You can swap to Erasing Strike Worldsplitter

[golden dove]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B5zy8lno

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.1

Class:

Sentinel (21) / Void Knight (72) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 4,898, Regen: 29.6/s
▸ Mana: 1,016.97, Regen: 10.16/s
▸ Ward Retention: 20%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 49 Str / 10 Dex / 10 Int / 17 Att / 37 Vit
▸ Resistances: 137% / 105% / 105% / 142% / 97% / 82% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 63%, Threshold: 1,454
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (40)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 68% (5,877)

Used skills:

Abyssal Echoes / Devouring Orb / Warpath / Symbols of Hope / Void Cleave

[shell sedge]

this one for needle farm

[slate delta]

Ye

Lostwood + Shrinemap

[shell sedge]

im just looking for a speedfarm build at this point though

[golden dove]

theres this abomonation farming 1800+

[shell sedge]

got my abom for bossing

[slate delta]

I'm currently running Devouring Orb Autobomber and it's SO GOOD

Allie has an amazing guide on it

[shell sedge]

i ll check it out ty. on the fence with allie but lets see 😄

[slate delta]

Wdym why

[shell sedge]

dogshit poe guides haha, but idk about them in LE so maybe its better

[slate delta]

I mean, I'm no expert, but the guide is extremely thorough, and she's been playing the build since beta

[slate delta]

Never heared about that hm. Got an example?

[shell sedge]

honestly every single poe guide ive seen from her

most recent 0.2 poe 2

[slate delta]

Very precise...

[shell sedge]

but w/e i dont really have a grudge against her. gonna check the autobomber out ty!

[slate delta]

Well I don't know shit about PoE2 so can't comment on that, and I haven't seen any guide from her on PoE1 because I do all my builds myself

[quiet hearth]

really hard to make a bad guide for LE because almost anything can work

[shrewd sentinel]

She just has massive backlash from poe fans because known scammer which makes it hard watching her LE vids

[slate delta]

But she was 1st lvl 100 Sentinel and 30min behind 1st lvl 100 overall in in Tombs of the Erased, so must do something right with the build

[slate delta]

Laughs in SSF

I am unbothered by the trade monkeys

[turbid dome]

Really the biggest problem is a lot of guides don’t show reasonable gear checkpoints

Like stats/gear to have entering monos, entering empowered, at 300 corruption, etc.

[raven vigil]

In the Maxroll Warpath guide, what's the best way to go about capping Reduced bonus damage from crits? I notice the helm has the implicit which goes to 85 but I can't see anywhere else the last 15 is coming from? I read that everyone stats 100% is quite mandatory in high corruption but could be old news?

[shrewd sentinel]

It was scamming a viewer which made it worse but that's not relevant to blessed LE lol

[turbid dome]

You can get a suffix that’s reduced bonus damage taken from crits + armor to finish capping it

[slate delta]

Yea agreed. I feel like I can kinda judge that because of PoE experience with gearing (and this games midgear is very easy to get), but better gear breakpoints is something I found lacking in a few LE builds

[slate delta]

OH SHIT I REMEMBER THAT CLIP

[raven vigil]

Ah on the helm? Wonder why they don't show that

[slate delta]

Yea nvm that was no bueno

[turbid dome]

It can go on a lot of gear slots

They could also be using citadel boots which comes with that stat implicitly

Or their getting it from somewhere on the passive tree

Or they feel tanky enough without fully capping it (this is foolish imo)

[slate delta]

Doesn't VK/Pala normally get 30% crit red on passives? With Leonine helm capping you

[turbid dome]

Pally yeah, I personally don’t on vk cause the passive tree node for it isn’t great if not a dot build imo

[quiet hearth]

leo helm was a mistake

[slate delta]

Yea... wdym 85%?

Not excessive at all lmao

[turbid dome]

Ignoring the crit reduction, it does give more flat armor than basically every body armor in the game (across all classes)

[quiet hearth]

it's TOO good, unless you need a specific helm you wear leo

[turbid dome]

The crit reduction is just a bonus

[slate delta]

Same with the DoT armour body, right?

[turbid dome]

Champ regalia yeah

Armor to dot isn’t bad but good lord the flat armor

[vale ravine]

i mean it actually has valid alternatives now, i would say it's fine. strong but fine
if you are hard thinking about possible tradeoff between an exalt and a unique, game achieved its purposes. i actually think we need more exalt only base types like these, most of the slots are too defacto auto legendary slots

[analog steppe]

hard to ignore the flat armor on both those pieces lol

[quiet hearth]

I know of no other helm that isnt a unique that could trade blows with it

[turbid dome]

Terror crown

[vale ravine]

on pally the fire damage helm is kinda good too

[slate delta]

I feel like the best extra effects (crit red, dot armor, etc) shouldn't be on the highest defense bases.

[turbid dome]

On one hand yeah, on the other it’s nice that the heavy armor in an arpg actually makes you the tankiest

[slate delta]

Shields do it well I'd say. Ironglass and Dawn are at the very top for raw stats, and Mountain/Carapace have great extra implicits

[vale ravine]

and the best exalt base types are competing against legendaries, not other exalts tbh

[turbid dome]

Ironglass hard sweeps dawn

[slate delta]

Same with Praetorian/Spidersilk

[turbid dome]

+5% block chance > 400 block effectiveness

[slate delta]

Yea sure I'm not experienced enough for that consideration. Still raw stats as a tradeoff for extra effect

[turbid dome]

Fair point

[slate delta]

And... in terms of raw shield effect I feel like it's hard to outperform Countenance of Majasa

[vestal mirage]

I love lizards

[analog steppe]

the thing with bases is they are done by level mostly, for the helmets there are only 1 base for the high levels so thats why they are so much better than the others, while shields have more high level bases overall (not split amonst the classes)

[turbid dome]

True

That’s also true

[slate delta]

Literally Ironglass with extra up to 600 block effect AND the DoT scaling

Like.... bruh?

[vale ravine]

wanted to say shield slot just became de facto legendary spot this patch 😄

[slate delta]

That thing can get 2620 Block Effect and 61% Block Chance

[turbid dome]

Most classes only really have 3 late game armor bases

• highest level
• second highest level
• some middle level base that has the most armor and/or a very helpful bonus stat

[slate delta]

I feel like Rayeh's Light isn't good enough. They should turn the 25% less fire dmg on block to generic less fire dmg to make the Orian's Eye combo more exciting (/s)

[vale ravine]

real problem is not having insanely strong bases, it's using them for giga juiced unqiues because then there is no tradeoff to consider

[turbid dome]

Yea

Tbh my favorite armor base choice has got to be on mage

[slate delta]

I desperately need to play a mage

The only non-sentinel I've played is Explosive Trap + Detonating Arrow

I wanted to play something else and got bullied into trying Devouring VK autobomber instead

Which... well. The build is stupid and amazing

[turbid dome]

mage has so many armor bases that are all good choices (based on build)

[slate delta]

But it's really haltering me from getting a better grasp of the game as a whole

[turbid dome]

and the highest armor is such an earlier level than the others ones

[quiet hearth]

mystic plate is so good

[turbid dome]

yea

[vale ravine]

like there is no universe where you wouldnt use coutenance if you like ironglass shield
and then they made it effective LP level 40 for some reason lol

[quiet hearth]

like bases need a rework, some just are not up to snuff, especially 2h

[turbid dome]

my guess is that the woven echo was suppose to be rarer

[hybrid turtle]

Well, they could just reduce DoT damage across the board and remove countenance again if they wanted to be smart

[quiet hearth]

Dots are too good at killing players, they will never go away

[hybrid turtle]

Would help other classes AND would make shield slot less dominated by a single shield

[turbid dome]

didn't they already super nerf dots for this patch

[hybrid turtle]

Sure doesn't feel like it

[quiet hearth]

They did, you actually have time to press your cleanse button now xD

[hybrid turtle]

I have silly amount of DoT defense and %DR and they still hurt a lot

[vale ravine]

i thkn the DOT is fine, just rebase it from ironglass so you now have a choice to make. do i struggle and need to invest into block chance capping hard but mitigate DOTs, or get easy block chance but need to look for DOT mitigation elsewhere

[worn ledge]

Hey guys, I'm trying to optimize my build for my Forge Guard, and could use some advice on gear.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oler5gOA
I'm a forged weapon/ring of shields guy, focused on fire damage. I've determined through testing, that Melee attack speed is the most important thing on my weapon, but I really don't know whether I should prioritize +melee fire damage or increased fire damage (since the +melee fire damage would affect the forged weapons, but the increased fire damage might have some effects on the shield(?) - still not 100% sure how these things interact.
Any advice is appreciated.

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 84

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2.2

Class:

Sentinel (22) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (65) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,773, Regen: 98.37/s
▸ Mana: 191.39, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 37 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 40 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 134% / 46% / 59% / 55% / 77% / 68% / 104%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 35%, Threshold: 355
▸ Armor Mitigation: 59% (3,840)
▸ Block Chance: 61%, Mitigation: 37% (923)

Used skills:

Vengeance / Healing Hands / Forge Strike / Lunge / Ring Of Shields

[slate delta]

Rarity is a secondary consideration with the imprint slots being a thing

[hybrid turtle]

I mean, removing countenance and then slashing DoT damage by 20% would be the same for us but also help other classes

[quiet hearth]

does the % chance to not be take dmg on a hit stack with ekki and wall, or are they seperate instances?

[vale ravine]

it's a boss drop tho

[turbid dome]

I have recently learned, inprinting doesn't do anything with boss drops

[slate delta]

Nooo imprinting the echo

[turbid dome]

oh

[slate delta]

You are completely right of course

mb

[vale ravine]

oh ye for sure

[turbid dome]

shenanigans

[vale ravine]

and tbh even a 2LP is giga OP 😄

[hybrid turtle]

It's really bloody rare though, I've found 2 of the drops, only reason I've had so many of them is because of imprint

[analog steppe]

they did mess up with the LPL of that item they admitted it

[slate delta]

2LP is also brazenly easy

On Majasa

[analog steppe]

its going to be nerfed heavily in the next patch in terms of LPL

[vale ravine]

lpl 100 fo sho

[analog steppe]

they dont want to change it this season tho

[hybrid turtle]

Eh I can live with only 1 LP for block chance, though

[slate delta]

So I need to get 77 block duo asap so I can keep it

[hybrid turtle]

The rest is just a nice bonus to have

[vale ravine]

ye, that's the thing. even 1lp you will use it 😄

[hybrid turtle]

That's why I said the thing about removing the shield and nerfing dots :

[turbid dome]

Tbh a lot of uniques feel hella stronger now with the guaranteed legendary affix choice

Baseline power is up

No awkward phase of grinding to get the correct slam on a 1lp item

[slate delta]

Yea 1LP items are 4x more likely to get perfect slams

4x is a pretty good buff xD

[vale ravine]

ye which is why strong exalt bases are fine imo, coming back to full circle. we need more max level strong bases which give stats as implicits you can hardly get from affixes

[hybrid turtle]

That phase sucked, tbh

[dreamy sun]

It really messed up the gear progression though

[hybrid turtle]

I stopped playing several times after being screwed over and over in temporal sanctum

[median monolith]

So I've fought maybe 8 empowered "Black Sun" Timelines, with maybe 7-9 "Collapsing Horizon". I have yet to see a World Spitter. Is this just unlucky?

[hybrid turtle]

There's only so many streaks of bad rng one can take, lol

[dreamy sun]

1lp everything is too easy, and then suddenly you hit a wall where for most of your stuff 2lp is not only rare but now also has a chance of not hitting the second affix you wanted

[quiet hearth]

I agree, more good bases will open up more builds we need more niche not loess

[median monolith]

The guide states it drops 10% to 22% of the time with increased item rarity.

[hybrid turtle]

That's true, it shifted the issue a bit further, but then again, you rarely do need multi LP items for anything in this game

Except uber abby

[turbid dome]

Bad luck then I guess

[hybrid turtle]

That one feels multi LP required

[median monolith]

Fair thanks

[turbid dome]

Sanity check, the harby who drops it is the one your fighting right

[median monolith]

There's different Harbs for Black Sun?

[slate delta]

World Splitter is Black Sun ye

[turbid dome]

No, one harb per timeline

[median monolith]

It's the one who slams

[slate delta]

TImeline is correct

Black Sun also has Atrophyyyyy <3

[turbid dome]

Just wanted to sanity check to make sure you were farming the right spot

[vale ravine]

just do the farm on higher rarity you will drop boatloads

first one takes awhile

[slate delta]

"Oops, farmed Fall of the Black Empire instead haha"