🔱┃sentinel

[orchid juniper]

so for the pure time rot build, what're the optimal rings? Maxroll has some, like, completely random uniques on their aspirational targets, I personally have just been doing double Siphon of Anguish for the leech

[dusky spruce]

idk why but VK does not appeal to me at all haha

can i do something with event horizon

[turbid dome]

Probably

I don’t enjoy using it

But theres gotta be a solid build for it

[polar juniper]

How do you get these. I see a mention of Aberroth, but also a mention of a Woven Echo. I've never done Aberroth

[dusky spruce]

maybe forge strike

[analog stirrup]

for my smite fissure build, should I go block effectiveness or increased healing effectiveness on my shield?

[dusky spruce]

since cast speed dont matter?

[quiet hearth]

shield rush was the only thing I really found that worked remotely well

[turbid dome]

Uber abberoth drop only

[polar juniper]

So pretty much impossible on SSF HC for a casual?

[turbid dome]

If you’ve never done regular abberoth start there

[dusky spruce]

in re to horizon?

[turbid dome]

No, practice regular Abby a lot first

[quiet hearth]

Yeah, because you can skip the AS just by repeatedly pressing the button with no CD, but good lord the desync

[turbid dome]

And probably look up a guide

Would be sad to rip by not knowing mechanics

[dusky spruce]

jeez hahaha

im enjoying judgement but i know i wonna try something diff soon

[peak scroll]

Flames of midnight probably doesn't hurt. Speed is the best stat in game. You already have a lot of pen tho

[dusky spruce]

where does that ring drop?

i need 1

[turbid dome]

Flames of midnight?

[dusky spruce]

yes sir

[orchid juniper]

lastepochtools says aberroth or the harbinger on the Spirits of Fire timeline

[peak scroll]

Harbinger in the spirits of fire is where I got it

[dusky spruce]

ahh i c

[turbid dome]

All the spots to get it

[dusky spruce]

so to farm the harbinger, i keep fighting the mono boss?

and it spawns him each time?

[turbid dome]

Yea

[orchid juniper]

there's also a woven echo

[peak scroll]

Yes and imprint the collapsing horizon echo

[orchid juniper]

to just directly fight the big man

[dusky spruce]

wat does imrpinting the echo do

[peak scroll]

Make it randomly spawn in the web as you clear echos

[polar juniper]

How good/important is prioritizing Immolator's Oblation belt.
It seems nice, but I just cant predict the downside of the self-inflicted Ignites

[turbid dome]

Makes it show up sometimes

So you can find it and not need to place it

[dusky spruce]

oh damn cool

i need a proper weaver tree

mines rubbish lol

[turbid dome]

Mines still on full weaver supply sustain until I have a towering pile of weaver stuff

[dusky spruce]

i jsut want lots of those ghlyphs that leme skip to the boss

[orchid juniper]

honestly though I think I prefer a 2lp siphon over that ring lmao, I've already got pretty excellent pen and the ele resist implicit and leech on siphon feel more useful

[dusky spruce]

wats this do

[turbid dome]

Put item with lp in

It either gets better or explodes

[dusky spruce]

ahh

[turbid dome]

You do get a consolation prize if it explodes

[dusky spruce]

yikes

hand of judgement went from 1lp to 2lp, the rest to 0

[polar juniper]

Is using this regrettable. Sounds good.
I guess downside is the boss of the timeline or something might become unexpectedly overtuned

[orchid juniper]

yeah it's the same odds as if you were rolling a fresh drop, that's expected

[boreal bridge]

anywhere I can check if my skill is 100% crit, I feel I'm overcapped

[dusky spruce]

isnt this the mechanic to catch up for alts?

[devout igloo]

can some progamer warpath enjoyer please take a quick look at my character and tell me some attainable upgrades for now? kinda struggling at finding upgrades atm
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A22lL3zA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 93

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (71) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,917, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 197.97, Regen: 18/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 47 Str / 5 Dex / 1 Int / 10 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 126% / 85% / 110% / 32% / 56% / 80% / 96%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 80%, Threshold: 764
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (23)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 58% (3,931)
▸ Block Chance: 10%, Mitigation: 20% (240)

Used skills:

Warpath / Devouring Orb / Anomaly / Symbols of Hope / Abyssal Echoes

[polar juniper]

Perhaps. I feel like just stacking up a desirebale amount of Corruption on 1 timeline, then spreading it to others is ideal, even on main char

[dusky spruce]

i think u already have a catchup mechanic ofr same char

[peak scroll]

Shattered chains would be my next focus

[dusky spruce]

u can just run 1 echo and the next echo will increase ur corruption alot

[devout igloo]

I've been trying to get that one, but it doesnt seem to drop? killed like 10+ orobysses in total but still nothing lol... is it just those triangle thingie at the end of the echo tree in a mono?

[peak scroll]

Theres a way to farm shades easier let me find the thread

Your clotho roll is pretty poor too I think

[orchid juniper]

weaver node to let shades ambush you helps a little but it's fairly rare

[devout igloo]

yeah the clotho is pretty dog, im spending all my weaver trying to get new ones through the 30% drop rate thingie, probably rolled 20 clothos but all are so bad lol

[limpid marsh]

For anyone who has beat normal abberroth...what level did you attempt him and when did you feel like you were strong enough to attempt it

[peak scroll]

%phys shows up in warpath tooltip but don't think it actually gives us damage

At least it's not supposed to, it's not a phys skill

[devout igloo]

really? jesus fk, then i destroyed a better one that had void dmg

but i destroyed it cuz it said i got a dmg decrease....

i also thought something along those lines, the warpath is void dmg but i got such a big increase from the +%phys dmg so i thought i was wrong

[dusky spruce]

big roll

[waxen nymph]

Yeah the tooltips are definitely wonky
Btw report it in game please

[dusky spruce]

nearly max speed

[waxen nymph]

Max t7 ?

[dusky spruce]

96% is max

rip

[peak scroll]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/LastEpoch/s/OQszXxdKGL

This will let you easily farm shades

[waxen nymph]

Garbage > Shatter it

[dusky spruce]

this is 2% off aswell for 1h

both times 2%

[devout igloo]

thank you bro!!!

[waxen nymph]

Crit multi ?

[dusky spruce]

didnt want that 😦

but all i had

and i didnt wonna wait haha

so just slammed it

[mental echo]

how do i make good use of this xD

[devout igloo]

@peak scroll btw, do you know if someone has gathered data as to whether +%phys dmg works for void knight or no? From what I saw it SEEMS like I still gained a lot of dmg, but im a giga shitter so i might just be coping

[dusky spruce]

i need dat

[mental echo]

base and the rest of mods is garbo

might use it to imprint on a unique

[waxen nymph]

Slam not Imprint

[mental echo]

idk what else to do with it

[waxen fiber]

anyone know if smite isnt working right? my tooltip says ~7.5k dps, but its only hits for like 500ish base, 2k crits

[dusky spruce]

mathac are u judgement

[mental echo]

yah

[dusky spruce]

yea use it on a 1lp unique

[mental echo]

hmm do i just glyph of chaos

[dusky spruce]

or just use it as is

until u get a 1lp null

[mental echo]

i can still put it on a null with 0 forging potential right?

so i can gamba on the bad mods with glyph of chaos

[dusky spruce]

yea

dont think FP matters

i been tryna find 1 of those for ages

[waxen nymph]

Correct

[mental echo]

ah well

got health so W i guess

[dusky spruce]

gud enuff

[peak scroll]

I'm searching for that belt too lol

[dusky spruce]

im usin this lol

[peak scroll]

Not certain but like I said, %phys isn't supposed to work

[waxen nymph]

%Phys is definitely not supposed to work

However tooltips are kind of stupid

[elfin shale]

Is it possible to get to 12 stacks of time rot per hit? Because erasing strike I think has a higher potential damage multiplier than devouring orb, but only for a single hit.

[mental echo]

i was still using one with 5 mana xD

[peak scroll]

Correct, but it is reflecting in tooltip. I could try 2 dif weapons with %void/phys but I've got a lot of %damage already. It prob would be hard to notice

Guess could remove all gear to test later

[waxen nymph]

If you have enough Chance to Time Rot with garanteed TR stack, you can technically do it

[elfin shale]

Also, if I convert bleed to time rot, does it affect the multiplier from rot grip? I presume not

[devout igloo]

Alright yeah, that semi-confirms it, cheers.

[devout igloo]

tooltips are stupid yeah but seems like the best gauge of damage right now? unless i wanna bust out the excel sheet and do the math, which I absolutely don't want to do🤣

[vale ravine]

it's all about the excel sheet

[peak scroll]

Can just hit a dummy with no gear and 2 same weapons that only have %phys/void to see

Just a bit annoying to set up 2 identical weapons

[dusky spruce]

surely this is useful somewhere?

[forest narwhal]

He had to crit when he was 2nd phase almost ded 😦

[vale ravine]

you dont have any crit immune or blind dropped

[devout igloo]

hahaha hard disagree

[devout igloo]

true true

[forest narwhal]

ye blind dropped cuz I had to dodge stuff for a sec

unlucky the sec I re-apply he manages to crit

[vale ravine]

rip

tbh thats why i will go in with 40% reduction still on boots + orians seal + HH specced for immunity

something gotta be up lol

if he manages to cut through like 6 layers of defenses he deserved to kill me

[forest narwhal]

yeah he hits hard, im at 6k armor, close to 5k hp, 1.8k endurance thresh and still getting clapped xD

[mental echo]

noice last harby down

[vale ravine]

oh he clapped me with 8500 and 5200 HP 😄

[forest narwhal]

I prob need more dmg cuz im taking too long so he fill the map with more stuff

oh lol

[vale ravine]

you need an extra layer for sure but should be fine with it

i mean assuming your playing ES as well

[forest narwhal]

yeah

I tried with warpath and the dmg was a joke lol

[quiet hearth]

I dont know what you were doing then because WP while not the top tier in dps, certainly doesnt lack for dmg

[forest narwhal]

My warpath wasn't maxed, im sure that if I invested as much as I have with ES it wouldve done better

but still its alot weaker than ES for uber

the only pro I see is that it has it easier to dodge so it takes less dmg

[quiet hearth]

So are like, 90% of all skills in the game, that isnt a good bar to use

[forest narwhal]

yeah, and thats why 90% of the skills can't kill uber

they made it so only op builds can clear unless you have super super high invest

[dusky spruce]

is there a glyph or something to add a lil corrptuion quickly to ur mono

or some way

i need like 6 corruption to fight the alst harbinger

and i cbf 2 do a whole timeline

[quiet hearth]

You cant say that because barely anyone has gotten to that point, most end game builds can handle uber ES just does it faster is all

[median tree]

glyph of envy

[dusky spruce]

that adds stability not corruption tho right

[median tree]

oh mb sorry yeah

[vale ravine]

ye sure if you can tank uber theoretically you can kil it too with any skill, but there is a difference between possible and practical
most people wont play a 15 minutes raid boss fight to possibly fail at 13:30 cause forgot to dodge one time, it is not really viable

that said sure there is def more than 2 builds which are viable, but def also not all

[outer kelp]

I think their mistake are the super op builds and high invest is the intended way. They did say that in the trailer that it would take a lot of gearing to kill him. But people just flew by and killed him day 2 🤦‍♂️

[vale ravine]

tbh i dont see a problem with specialized uber builds, poe has that too, it's fine. like storm crows
problem is if your build does everything better and ubers

[quiet hearth]

Most attempts arent taking 15m, and most builds will have enough def to take a few hits. I'm not talking possible, Im saying there is more room than people think because we have more than enough dmg, ubers in any game is a def game. Besides, not every build needs to do ubers, or even harbys and abeeroth.

[vale ravine]

that said i hope they delete storm crows snapshotting it's so stupid

[quiet hearth]

Ah snapshotting

[frosty coral]

https://streamable.com/7g2v7t
Still trying to do pure physical damage, i'm not giving up..... it's so hard tho

[peak scroll]

Snapshotting is generally a silly abuse case whenever it exists

[pallid plover]

Oceareon seems super good.... am i missing something?

compared to flames of midnight and phantom grip

[vale ravine]

rare af but no, it is super good

aight lets farm some anchors with LP lol

aight first floor of the first echo, we done XD

[peak scroll]

At least it's prepped for next item lol

[vale ravine]

ye i mean imma see how many i can get but it's funny 😄

[peak scroll]

1 is still less than 2 😄

[vale ravine]

ye kinda not holding out for that 0.4% or whatever is it

[muted oar]

Is warpath bugged, how can a warpath that hits 6 times a second not sustain 3 void essences?

thats excluding my echos

im hitting like 1 billion times a second

[muted oar]

so u need devouring orbs to expire ig

[vale ravine]

kinda

also isnt warpath technically only hitting once

[quiet hearth]

You mean it only counts as a use of attack on the initial start?

[muted oar]

every dmg instance seems to count as a hit

[waxen fiber]

not sure if related, but when i tried warpath, with healing hands on melee hit, it only procs healing hands once, because its still a singular use of the melee attack

[muted oar]

for stuff like shred etc

[waxen nymph]

You can try hitting the Dummies in the arena

[quiet hearth]

WP hits multiple times, but it only counts 'on use' effects when you first start spinning

[muted oar]

its stacking a lot of armor shred and it's giving me the void essence every 4s as u said

[vale ravine]

okay then ye, it's the CD

[waxen nymph]

Yes 4sec cd and 8 sec duration

[vale ravine]

ye i was the thinking the singular use

that said i def got more than one occassionally while ESing early and not having any points in either dorb, or ES tree, so something is up with that talent

[quiet hearth]

lmao, the bolster node in Smelters is STILL broken xD

[lost basin]

Hi,
Whats the most powerfull, non-specific-gear-dependant mastery atm? Don't care if its broken or op, just need to mindlessly slay

[wide ivy]

yo guys

why does everyone play judgement as dot and not crit

is there like a reason for that

that am unaware of

[quiet hearth]

dot is easy to scale and it's a super chill play style

[polar spire]

i'd say paladin, vk is pretty broken op, but gear reliant, paladin spellcasters arent as reliant, can go smite fissure or multistrike smite

[waxen nymph]

Whats up with it ?

[quiet hearth]

It's not givine endurance threshold

[waxen nymph]

You deal a lot of dmg and you get tons of Healing at the same time while also scaling just Healing Effect

[polar spire]

is it like the res and endurance node in holy aura that mentions endurance threshold but gives endurance?

[small veldt]

Would shock and electrocute counteract each other in a lighting jav build? Or would they complement each other

[lost basin]

Which vk is most broken if yuou have the gear needed? Warpath or erasing strike?

[quiet hearth]

no, it flat out says armor/threshold and doesnt give anything but armor

[polar spire]

not at all, shock reduces defenses, electrocute does damage, electrocute makes use of shock

[polar spire]

erasing strike

warpath isnt even close

[small veldt]

Ta, i've been looking at the boots that adds a chance to shock on lightning damage

[waxen nymph]

Complement
Shock Reduce Lightning Res

[small veldt]

Reason i ask is i have lightning pen as well via execute

[waxen nymph]

Dont need to

Just take this

[polar spire]

so shock has a cap, but its an easy to meet cap with just 1 source of shock chance, pen doesnt have a cap

[waxen nymph]

Solves your Shock and Lightning Shred

[small veldt]

Thank you, i knew i overlooked something

[polar spire]

this passive is so loaded, its going to get nerfed so flipping hard next season

[waxen nymph]

It has to

[polar spire]

theres no shot ehg didnt know that passive was going to be as broken as they did, they prob did it on purpose to let sentinels top the leaderboard for once

[small veldt]

The values will probably be lowered

To 2% per point or something

Still strong, but nowhere as op

[lost basin]

Okay and when you mention paladin, is this the build to go? https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-paladin-guide

[waxen nymph]

I mean thats just 70% Pen for "free"

[polar spire]

i see judgement, no it isnt judgement

judgement isnt used in either builds

[quiet hearth]

Change it to convert the multi, problem solved

[polar spire]

judgement is still plenty strong all on its own

[grim fog]

Brother

Peak Rive

[polar spire]

smite fissure with devotion MIGHT use judgement just to eat its mana pool, but thats it

[grim fog]

I doubled my damage despite being a Void Rive

[muted oar]

Can someone tell why my warpath stops instead of continuing, it's a bug right?

[polar spire]

it feels weird using this on an up close build just because of its unique effect, i feel like a at range forge strike would be better

[small veldt]

Also, i just realized, that 5pointer, works so well with

[grim fog]

90 Melee + another 90 melee (last 1 doubled for Rive)

[small veldt]

That grants 1 crit strike multiplier per 2 str

[waxen nymph]

Looks like you ran out of mana for a small moment

[small veldt]

It's a really nice synergy i mean

[muted oar]

yea but thats the point of the passive node right, get void essence refill mana

it's not supposed to cancel ur spin i think

it doesnt usually

[polar spire]

yea i guess i can see that, needles are just stupidly easy to obtain, i have like 20 of them in my stash and really need to just vendor them all lmao

[wide ivy]

whats stopping u from doing that as crit

[outer kelp]

the +4 mana channel increase is more than 4. that's +4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4 mana per channel tick, you stop because your void well can't even keep up with the channel cost anymore.

[muted oar]

It's not been 3 seconds yet so it should refill or?

Its driving me insane

[waxen nymph]

The first procc was fine, the second was just a little late

[median tree]

is aurora time glass worth the crit chance and added health slot in a amulet slot for 2h paladin?

and should i aim for lp farming it or should i be happy with a non lp version?

[grim fog]

if you are Merchant a 14 weave sells for 400 K minim

[waxen nymph]

Lets say you do Crit
HE gives you More Dmg and Pen
But if you do Spell DoT HE gives you Flat Dmg and Pen
And thats better

Also you can stack multiple pools of Dmg under your target

And yourself for multiple healing

[outer kelp]

this is kinda insane (multi smite)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmC8f16B89Y

[small veldt]

Also, i love the ability to graft set effects onto gear

That's one of the greatest things this update. I'll be able to make use of the last bear set bonus

On an item with actual useful stats for me

[boreal bridge]

LF > Small Weaver prophecies pls

[polar spire]

Naaa, im cof, i only keep 15+ weavers will items

[quiet hearth]

how do we get the set shards again?

[polar spire]

Weaver echo

Its a fun one to run too

Just a straight path

I sometimes run it even if i dont have sets to break, its just that much fun

[quiet hearth]

Wonder how common it is, because that's a pretty big gate to that crafting option

[polar spire]

Its sellable on the vendor if i remember right

[quiet hearth]

ah ok that's not bad then

[ionic tusk]

is sentinel really overpowered now? like falconeer and rune master situation

will i be bad playing other characters as alt

[radiant vortex]

nah you'll be fine

[quiet hearth]

Nah, everyone is good there is no class or mastery that is unplayable

[radiant vortex]

sentinel is a tad overtuned but it's not as egregious as falconeer was on launch

Rogue is the worst off (other than falconer cos zhp don't matter if you overscreen clear) I guess, theres no defensive layers and a lot of the possesed mobs hit like a truck and some thru dodge

[polar spire]

Yes, 1000% so, we top the leaderboard right now

I swear to god ehg did it on purpose to throw sentinels a bone this season

[royal valley]

guys what is a good melee build that allows you to "feel the punches in the face" to the enemy. without being super slow clearing?

[ionic tusk]

I see okay

[radiant vortex]

there's very interesting builds for everyone atm

[quiet hearth]

I wonder how long until they unbork the 2h node

[polar spire]

This

[ionic tusk]

my friend is really struggling with his rogue, at start of empowered monos too

[radiant vortex]

a lot of the weaver idols enable some funky stuff, some others from unique buffs, LP slammin in general makes even jank very viable

[ionic tusk]

a bit tuning and it will be good imo, no need to destroy the fclass

[radiant vortex]

how do you mean

other than the haste convertin to block?

[polar spire]

Mastery respecs are pretty cheap, if they wanna try a different build

[ionic tusk]

Dude, Im at 400 corruption right now, and i havent been using symbols of hope since like start of empowered monos

[outer kelp]

Any beginner can slap on anything on their sentinel and they'd perform like the top builds of other classes. Hell I completed campaign + early monos with a firestarter torch I picked up at the starting zone.

[quiet hearth]

I wouldnt say cheap

[ionic tusk]

i just removed it from action bar, appearantly this disables auto acsting

[polar spire]

For friend at lvl 70, it was like 50k

[radiant vortex]

caps out at 1m?

that's pretty cheap

[ionic tusk]

yeah 1m at 100

gold is worthless in cof too

idk about trade prices

[quiet hearth]

mine was almost 300k

[polar spire]

It all goes into me organizing my stash tabs

[grim fog]

Last tier, I just got 70 K damage

[ionic tusk]

I saw someone has sold a double mana idol for 4m here yesterday

i have like 6 of those

💀

[polar spire]

For once in my life, organizing my stash tab

[royal valley]

guys what is a good melee build that allows you to "feel the punches in the face" to the enemy. without being super slow clearing?

[radiant vortex]

Same, I think I'm 5m deep on that at least..

there's just too much 2+ lp stuff I wanna keep D:

[polar spire]

Im sure if all of us had access to selling our cof gear on mg, we'd have like billions of golds worth of items in our stashes, haha

[radiant vortex]

and for build enablers you gotta have 1lp at least to go turtle it

[radiant vortex]

random uniques sell like few thousand at least to vendor

[polar spire]

Because of slotting a unique 3 times in weaver tree, i have multiple 3/4lp items now

Like this season is insanely kind

And coming off of poe2 ruthless, it feels great

[radiant vortex]

I should really slot in some very common items

and just turn them into 4lp like stat boosters

I need to go print some exalteds tho

Apparently that chest cove place + just that one imprint is a giga printer for that

[quiet hearth]

ive used mine for nemmy, it's so nice seeing him almost every mono

[radiant vortex]

the fact you don't like.. lose or have to store the item in the imprint is so forgivin

so many other games would take that as like a sac node where you can't get it back and have to overwrite the imprint when you wanna replace it

[quiet hearth]

Oh, and about the 2h node in sent, apparently it's giving double the penalties when you use it, so -40$ dmg and -20% as

[radiant vortex]

W h a t

No wonder my DPS sucks so bad

[quiet hearth]

and it may also be disabling the other 2h nodes

[radiant vortex]

That.. thats Very worryin

I don't think its the case tho, can't test now atm but I'm fairly sure I got my str and ignite chance from it

I knew only that the haste swap was like weirdly bugged out only workin on some sources

[peak scroll]

If you modify/destroy the item it's reflected in the imprint I believe

[quiet hearth]

I wanna say it was like the pen and 2h crit multi ones it was messing with

[radiant vortex]

ah not using those

Like experimental mod on boots would grant you MS instead, some other sources would just not grant you block, can't recall from quick testing I did if any way to get haste gave block

[quiet hearth]

I know the haste part is 100% not working right for the block conversion

[radiant vortex]

Hmm, will have to test if any of the 2h nodes work later

If no there's 0 reason to stay FG on my build D:

[frozen badger]

how to increase more damage Javelin skill

[oak kite]

which version are u playing

[frozen badger]

my lvl 75 and only have 8k+

1.2

[oak kite]

i mean

[radiant vortex]

[oak kite]

which javelin build

Holy trail, electrify, physical

[frozen badger]

javelin from sentinel

[oak kite]

yes no shit

[quiet hearth]

Alright now, no need to be vulgar

[frozen badger]

electrify, I use divine throw

[oak kite]

^

wats ur weapon like

are u using siege barrage

[frozen badger]

sierpin fractal tree

[oak kite]

yea thats why then

sierpin wants physical crit

and ur playing electric dot

mismatch of weapon and skill scaling

if u go sierpin, dont go divine throws

just siege barrage + crit scaling

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/javelin-paladin-guide

[radiant vortex]

Tu'ranis Bident if you go electrify

[oak kite]

if u want to go divine throw electrify, get weapon with damage over time stuff

[radiant vortex]

or one of the new crafted ones with a champion affix

[oak kite]

like tulrani's bidet yea

u can use a 1h weapon like 1h axe too if u wanna use a shield

with implicit bleed change

since divine throws converts bleed to electrify chance

[median tree]

im doing that exact same build and just now got aurora time's glass. is it really worth the crit chance+health from an exalted amulet?

[oak kite]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/electrify-javelin-paladin-guide a little old but the itemisaion and tree sorta works

[oak kite]

wdym

[radiant vortex]

my only issue here is toucan linkin maxroll

[oak kite]

Finn we dont have pob here

:xdd

[frozen badger]

I only have the weapon. how else ?

[radiant vortex]

letools is right there

[oak kite]

dont go divine throw if u want to use sierpin

for sierpin

[raven jackal]

how is letools better then maxroll?

[limpid knoll]

Man... Every time I go to play sentinel, I'm like, "This time I'm going to try skill that is not warpath", get as far as level 2, and am immediately reminded how much I love warpath, lol.

[median tree]

how is aurora time glass comparable to added health and crit chance from an exalted amulet if i dont have lp on it?

[radiant vortex]

oh least its a lizard build

[median tree]

whats wrong with maxroll?

[frozen badger]

should In stay with FG? or I need to switch to paladin

[oak kite]

depends on how good your exalted is

i wouldnt use without LP tho in general

[radiant vortex]

god its always funny lookin at old guides

5/4 in a node

[median tree]

its a t6 crit chance. i think ill lose 100% javelin crit chance if i swap this amulet which is what's been setting me off

[radiant vortex]

Skills that don't interact at all anymore

[oak kite]

yea dont swap without LP

[raven jackal]

... Thats the build guide you want, thats using an axe on a javelin build.

[gloomy orchid]

whats the best RF build out there

[raven jackal]

Thats confusing to me

[oak kite]

brother ur using a dot

[median tree]

ahh okok should ill look for a 1lp then ty

[oak kite]

u dont care about the flat dmg from spear if u play dot

if u go hit based javelin, then yea use a spear

if u go dot like electrify, the added melee dmg does nothing for u

cuz dots have their own base dmg and scaling

only time u wanna go spear on javelin while playing dot is

[raven jackal]

Thats silly, kinda annoying thats dots dont take the hit of the attack into account

[oak kite]

for holy trail, because then u can use lunge to throw more javelins

but u want judicator unique for it

[radiant vortex]

or you can join me in the deep FG memes

phalanx electrify

[oak kite]

im playing RF sorry

🤢

[radiant vortex]

dot rate capped by enemy attacks

ofc you are you meta slave

[oak kite]

meta
RF

dented

[quiet hearth]

let me tell you about FG memes

[oak kite]

im not playing the D4 ass builder spender build

im doing aura

xdd

[radiant vortex]

anything w judgement is meta

[oak kite]

i got like 600k dot ticks and can face tank abberath nuke so

[radiant vortex]

free dmg while being immortal just from slappin some attunement

[oak kite]

xdd

[radiant vortex]

same tbh

[oak kite]

i just want t7 attunement now on my helm

[radiant vortex]

im listenin

[radiant vortex]

solving for crit reduction without leonin is such a pain but I have some unique helm plans I wanna do...

wonder when we'll get a unique for that helm D:

[oak kite]

ive imprinted everything for leonin helms

[rancid musk]

hi, so changing smite to lightning conversion doesnt change fissure dmg over time to lightning right?

[oak kite]

🤢

still no t7 stat yet

[radiant vortex]

I need to do that yeah

[rancid musk]

at least it looks like it, when i press alt and see tags, it says fire

[radiant vortex]

I mean just get any t7 mod

then roll it

[quiet hearth]

Ruby Fang, scaling ignite, electrify, and poison all at once

[radiant vortex]

I did consider that ngl >_>

[oak kite]

im not spending havocs on a stat

💀

saving those for +4s

[radiant vortex]

you runnin low? you an MG andy with no printin?

[oak kite]

CoF

and ive been spending all my favor on uniques

[radiant vortex]

my issue is if I'm playing FG why would I not play 2h + shield

and if I'm not playing 2h why would I play FG

[oak kite]

trying to fish for +4 judgement weaver relic

[mental echo]

im having bad luck xD

still stuck on +2 judgment

[radiant vortex]

just imprint the weaver relic the prophecy for those sucks

[oak kite]

same

ive gone through dozens

got +4s on so many other skills

[radiant vortex]

the double roll and imprint stack somehow I kept gettin least 18 wills consistently

until I rolled into this +4 smite I got and stopped

[winter jungle]

Not a sentitel but is this any good for any specific build?

for sentinels

[mental echo]

the weaver one is kinda bad no

[radiant vortex]

I'd not use that base hammer but that's good to slam into some vengance memes =P

[quiet hearth]

Each mastery really has it's own nice, right now I think pally is best for it, but FG gets a lot of bleed early

[radiant vortex]

slam it into renegades will and go ham on crit veng

[rancid musk]

u need staff for flat spell dmg

idk about melee

[radiant vortex]

yeah... 2h being borked really puts a damper on a lot

might just go do the Wlock memes now

[quiet hearth]

it really do, hopefully it gets fixed soon

[radiant vortex]

any word from devs on it

[quiet hearth]

I havent seen anything personally yet

[dusky spruce]

does this re-roll the affix that make sthis legendary?

or wat

[strange jolt]

Yes

All modifiers on the item

[dusky spruce]

why cant i put another legendary wing guard in sacrifice spot?

what do i put there?

[oak kite]

u need same or higher Lp sacrifice

[dusky spruce]

same item too?

[oak kite]

yes

[radiant vortex]

you need to put one with same or higher lp / amount of slammed mods

[winter jungle]

Ive been tryna get these smite on throw idols but I havent seen even one dude

[dusky spruce]

they both have 1 mod on them

both legendary

[oak kite]

weird

show screenshots?

[dusky spruce]

or is it cause theyre both legendary?

[radiant vortex]

try puttin in the sac first as well / reopenin the screen

[dusky spruce]

idk i dont understand it haha

ah taht worked

thanks

i had to close no pen it

[radiant vortex]

sometimes its just an ui bug

[dusky spruce]

close and open*

mana 😦

and lost 4% melee speed hahaha

terrible

o well

[oak kite]

xdd

[radiant vortex]

time to go again =P

[rare umbra]

When I apply abyssal decay (via abyss echo) and then proc the dmg with a hit, does that remove the debuff?
EDIT: yes it does, but there's a separate node that prevents hits from proccing the debuff

[dusky spruce]

i got a 0lp pair ima try in an egg

but they suk usually

[radiant vortex]

like okay my whole issue with the phalanx build was scalin dps cos it wasn't really going up that much so I was wondering man I should just go hit based cos the dots ain't really interactin, just have ignite as a supplamental right?

but now hit mods at least just don't work for 2h node?? and there might be an innate doubling up of the less dmg? or is it one or the other @quiet hearth

like I'm so lost now wtf am I doing with this build there's no point keeping the spear if I don't use it to trigger javelin OR boost vengeances own dmg and if I don't have a shield I can't do that cos no way to really get enough block

[quiet hearth]

The jury is still out, some say i's the AS, some say its the dmg penalty, but something is very wrong

[radiant vortex]

the minus to as doesn't really matter to me, thats the whole point

[vale ravine]

hmm

[radiant vortex]

I get enough hits even with 1.2 aps cos of all the stuff that triggers off vengeance
and I go pmuch infinite if enemy hits fast enough to trigger all the ripostes inbetween

[waxen nymph]

SPEED !!!

[vale ravine]

i mean i did want a 2 LP inevitable 😄

[radiant vortex]

The build feels super fun for clear. Its the ST that sucks cos most bosses just run around throwin aoe effects D:

[vale ravine]

i guess it is kinda like thath

[radiant vortex]

what if I just spec the tree into nothing but giga arenas and imprint the 5 orobyss echo

least when I do that I can release all of em at the same time

would imprint rune prison instead but I still haven't friggin found it

[dusk sequoia]

Day 5 of trying to find a suitable dev orb helmet base

[fiery talon]

Hi, newbie here. I love vengeance and rebuke, but struggling to find additional skills to pair with them. Tried both void knight and forge guard but I found their skills to end up taking away from the vengeance/rebuke skills I wanted to use. Anyone got suggestions for build options?

[radiant vortex]

I think you gotta pick which one you want veng or rebuke

[fiery talon]

I mean rebuke's on a cooldown so I can use both. The problem I have is that for example manifest armor, enemies will attack the armor and not me, which lowers my counter attacks/rebuke charging

[radiant vortex]

Thats kind of the point with that one, you being immortal while the armour clears all

[south ledge]

Haha I used the same for leveling, started with blood of the exile (slammed 30% ms as well) then changed to these.
I really had a blast lvling voidknight this season and hit lvl 100 yesterday .

Took me +/- 45 hrs without any min/Max Echo strategies

[radiant vortex]

Do you wanna use Vengeance as your main skill or just another defensive layer @fiery talon

[fiery talon]

main skill I think

Well, if I can, I'd like to get rebuke to do numbers... but it seems like it doesn't charge up a lot of damage

[radiant vortex]

yeah not really its thing

[timber dust]

min rolled af

[radiant vortex]

hey 12% health

[radiant vortex]

a fun variant of Veng is going Volcanus cos Iron Blades count as melee attacks

[fiery talon]

Volcanus eh? which is that, is that an existing build?

[junior wren]

to do that, you should grab the % more damage nodes and wield a mace

[radiant vortex]

it's a unique 2h sword

[fiery talon]

Oh I see

[vale ravine]

i would give you this if i could lol

[radiant vortex]

15% chance to cast "magma shards" on melee hit

[fiery talon]

Will that increase the damage it charges or just increase the base damage of the skill?

either is good but I'd love if I could get it to scale with the amount of damage I absorb or something

[radiant vortex]

you hit a guy, they hit you, both your hit and riposte trigger iron blades and all 3 different melee hits can trigger magma shards

[fiery talon]

that sounds super fun

I also took the axe throwing on hit trait cuz I thought it might trigger with the ripostes but idk if it does actually?

[radiant vortex]

slot in counter attack for retribution on base sentinel tree

and while runnin around you'll randomly melee someone back and trigger volcanus

[fiery talon]

yep I maxed that all out haha

[timber dust]

how do you even farm more harby keys

[radiant vortex]

it can but that has a 1s cd

[fiery talon]

any reliable way to get volcanus?

[junior wren]

"damage it charges"? riposte should be a subskill of vengeance, so all of them should affect riposte

[fiery talon]

Oh no sorry I was talking about rebuke for that

[radiant vortex]

he was talkin about rebuke

[south ledge]

I tried to piece a smelters wrath FG together after leveling with voidknight:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Bxr3wYRA
I actually managed to kill aberroth first try with this build already. Any advice on how to improve? Specific uniques or different passives/skills?

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (73) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 2,297, Regen: 73.28/s
▸ Mana: 248.33, Regen: 17.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 88 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 21 Vit
▸ Resistances: 108% / 125% / 136% / 83% / 85% / 94% / 68%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 70%, Threshold: 650
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (79)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 77% (9,382)
▸ Block Chance: 90%, Mitigation: 31% (753)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 37%

Used skills:

Ring Of Shields / Healing Hands / Symbols of Hope / Vengeance / Smelter's Wrath

[junior wren]

ah yeah my bad, I should'e specified, the mace is for vengeance 😄

[radiant vortex]

it's a fairly common drop, go to reign of dragons to focus swords

once you get one you can imprint on the weaver tree to get a lot more and start fishing for high lp

[fiery talon]

Ok I'm not even there yet but I'll keep it in mind, thanks

I'm still leveling haha

[slim spire]

Man so many FG builds are using the tree. I know it's good, but the loss of ~150 fire damage on void cleave seem fatal

[fiery talon]

I'm just trying to figure out what other skills would be good. I use lunge for movement at least...

[slim spire]

Any way of swapping weapons easily?

[radiant vortex]

plan to play FG or?

[fiery talon]

honestly I'm not sure. there's some useful passives but I'm not crazy about it's abilities

[radiant vortex]

theres fun stuff you can do but yeah

[raven jackal]

Anyone got gameplay vids on how the smelters wrath plays like?

[radiant vortex]

youtube.com

[junior wren]

Riposte oriented Vengeance would look something like this. Riposte is physical, Iron Blade is physical, so I'm keeping Vengeance physical too.

[raven jackal]

sure but not exactly gonna be for this season

since basicly noone is playing it

[fiery talon]

Yeah that looks quite similar to mine. I just put more armor shred on the iron blades so far

[slim spire]

How's the build?

[junior wren]

I don't play it, ask Passion Punkin 😄

[warm wasp]

to you warpath enjoyers: I'd like to follow maxroll's warpath build but I'm nervous about switching too early, is the build completely bricked if you can't afford all the gear?

[fiery talon]

For those nodes which say "vengeance deals more damage" does that also apply to the riposte damage?

[junior wren]

yeah it should

[vale ravine]

bruh why do i get the stuff i dont need...

[fiery talon]

Oh ok cool I was holding off on slotting those cuz I wasn't certain

[radiant vortex]

the additional riposte nodes go hard for any clear btw

cos you will not hit fast enough vs mobs to have riposte constantly up without em

[junior wren]

true, chances are you will be hit more often

[radiant vortex]

with +2 every hit is 3 ripostes charged and the enemy will spend them immediately

[gloomy orchid]

1.5m relax aura build, just walk around and collect loot lol

[fiery talon]

yeah I noticed you need a certain amount of attack speed to keep riposte up in a horde of mobs

It's a really fun build tho I love vengeance and rebuke

I guess rebuke is the "oh shit" button more than anything tho

[radiant vortex]

I thought takin the swap node also swaps riposte and blades to fire D:

cos they're subskills

[south ledge]

I can see why, because the skills itself is very clunky.
The numbers are fine tho. With my current pieced together setup it hits for 4.6m already at dummy.

[zealous junco]

Err? What is that haha. I want it!

[slim spire]

My personal advice to you is to level as w/e skill you want to play endgame. If you switch too late for example, you may need more gold than you currently have. Even if a bit early you may burn unneeded gold. Early game is easy enough to level with any skills.

[radiant vortex]

molten riposte would make no sense if it didn't

[junior wren]

well it doesn't say anything about swapping ripostes or iron blades

[slim spire]

Someone here told me it does

[radiant vortex]

thats just how it usually works tho

its inconsitency in some of the tooltips sure

[junior wren]

like, if you swap Rive to Void, Energy Wave will be Void? 😄

I remember the recently bugfixed Fissure so I'm skeptical

[zealous junco]

Yo all you Sentinel Chads. What endgame version of Sent should i make 🙂 I dont know what one is the best all rounder... @gloomy orchid whats you character name so i can look at what ya got on haha

[tame glacier]

Can someone take a quick look at my VK ES build, I'm getting a bit desperate with Uber Abbaroth. Where can I just squeeze out some damage and extra mana without making the defense worse?

I'm so close to a kill, but there's still a little bit missing.

https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/Dolewan/character/DolewanVK12

[gloomy orchid]

consecration aura damage per tick, lazy build just walk around and everyone dies

[vale ravine]

how do you feel about conditional defenses 😄

[radiant vortex]

just swap in last laugh if you get him to 20%

[heady mountain]

that harbinger of tyranny is so dumb <.<

[winter jungle]

Can i not drop sentinel idols if im a rogue? I been looking for them but no luck?

[radiant vortex]

you can but theres class weightin

[peak scroll]

Does the aura have decent aoe size? I've never looked at the build but I do enjoy rf

[raven jackal]

Wow i can see why noone bothers with smelters wrath. The animainion for it is just horriable. Just looks like the character is trying to take a shit but is constipated.

[radiant vortex]

also make sure your filter isn't hidin em @winter jungle

[junior wren]

well, that minion spell damage affix on your weapon sure is one place 😄

[winter jungle]

nah its at the top of the filter, I thought it was that at first 😭 but class weighting makes sense

[tame glacier]

had 2/3 chance to get something good... but it had to take the worst mod ^^

[gloomy orchid]

very small size unless u get area effect affixes

[tame glacier]

What would be the exact idea?

[peak scroll]

That's what I thought thanks

[vale ravine]

i see you have blind already, so if you want to risk it could swap in Ekki helm
also im not sure if you are crit capped?

[tame glacier]

im crit capped when he gets debuffed by the bubble

[junior wren]

crit capped when he gets debuffed by the bubble?

[tame glacier]

I got a 2LP Ekki Helmet with T7 Mana and % mana on it in my stash but im not a fan of it because it removes my mana even faster^^

[radiant vortex]

are you CoF?

[tame glacier]

Anomaly

[vale ravine]

what am i missing

[radiant vortex]

1 symbol

[vale ravine]

he only has 4 specced

[keen jewel]

wow looks really tanky

has anyone made it to uber aberroth with judgement aura build?

[tame glacier]

you are missing nothing, but im missing 6% 🤣

[winter jungle]

yea

[mental echo]

normal abberoth down

[radiant vortex]

Then get prophecies for the correct size idol you want

[keen jewel]

what corruption are you at for normal abby?

[mental echo]

just killed him for first time at 300

[junior wren]

VK passives?

[vale ravine]

that said not sure you can squeeze out mroe damage. last laugh basically
would rather focus on solving whats killing you, damage should be more than enough

[keen jewel]

oh, nice

[mental echo]

hmm what timeline do i farm on judgment pala

[tacit zealot]

whats the best way to get ward retention for a fire based healing hands pally?

[radiant vortex]

aura or hit

[tame glacier]

my missing player skills kills me.

Is there a way to enamble animation canceling? the ES slam takes so long, and abbaroth catches me all the time ..

[timber dust]

isnt nihil like super common with cof,

[radiant vortex]

moar attunement =P

[mental echo]

hit

[tacit zealot]

attunement is mana no?

[radiant vortex]

it double scales your HH

healing effectiveness from pala passive and HHs nodes

[timber dust]

paly just double dips

[tacit zealot]

yes....i asked for ward retention

on items

[radiant vortex]

who needs retention when you can generate 50k

[tacit zealot]

50k? bs

maybe before the ward nerf when i was getting 80k+ lol

[radiant vortex]

well not anymore, probably closer to 15k now max

[junior wren]

ah it throws me off how they fixed symbols of hope showing in LET caclulations, but anomaly does not show

[radiant vortex]

I know a friend with barely into monos who I boosted was giving me 5k

[vale ravine]

dont think you can cancel per se, but could adapt your playstyle a little bit maybe? instead of spamming all the time could focus on burst windows around anomaly, pop it, dodge to get frenzy from nihilis
squeeze in more into these windows when you are attacking faster and focus on mechs outside of it

and/or attack speed on gloves i guess lol

[tacit zealot]

yeah im currently peaking at 6.5-7k ward but theres still plenty of times where i get a small stun and its enough to remove 3/4th of my ward because it goes down so quickly

[radiant vortex]

idols have the new retention mod, as do amulets, can't recall if any other bases... there's some uniques as well

[left parcel]

Belts I think?

[radiant vortex]

wall of nothing is massive amounts, can also go for the mountain boots with that chest if you got any extra dex/dodge

[tacit zealot]

frostbites last line is perfect but the rest is garbage for my build

[abstract yoke]

does raw level on skills affect its dmg? so for example does level 20 unspecced vengeance have higher damage than level 1 vengeance?

[radiant vortex]

no

[junior wren]

@tacit zealot not sure what FinnBear is talking about, but Vessel and Strands of Souls are your best bet outside of Frostbite gloves

Aurora amulet too

[radiant vortex]

Ward retention man

Ward threshold can be crafted and rising threshold helps with retention math

[tame glacier]

is there a better ring as "Flame of Midnight" with more Damage?

[junior wren]

well you recommended wall of nothing which has 0 ward retention 😄 it does have ward threshold though, but if he's a low HP build the amount will not be amazing.

[primal socket]

Are any of y'all playing Crit Forge Strike? I'm playing it with multistrike rn but I feel like it will fall off quite hard in higher corruption and ALL the builds I've seen center around forged weapons

[radiant vortex]

Rising threshold is also great for just having more pool for if / when you get stunned

shouldn't be too many points to solve for not being stunned on pally tho >_>

[vale ravine]

oce probably

[tacit zealot]

im doing divine bolts pally so always full hp but with most of my gear needing uniques and no lp dropping reliably my defence is shockingly shit lol

[junior wren]

you see, his problem isn't getting more pool. He can go bonkers in a few seconds. His problem is, it disappears in seconds.

[vale ravine]

if you want to go glass cannon

[tacit zealot]

less than seconds haha

[timber dust]

20 abby kills 1 nihil on cof

rip

[junior wren]

I'm a divine bolt pally too, so I should know 😄

[mental echo]

normal? xD

[tame glacier]

oce?

[tacit zealot]

damage isnt an issue (this is out of battle with no holy aura or anything applying

[mental echo]

dayum im still missing alot

[fossil widget]

Anyone using javelin smite build? Curious how it works overall

[mental echo]

im at 555% LUL

[vale ravine]

ocearon

[tacit zealot]

adorned idols?

[mental echo]

nope not yet

i just killed my first normal aberoth so now i can farm good gear

[radiant vortex]

you do also get ward retention from just int btw

[junior wren]

wish we could grab ward retention on idols just like acolyte :F

[tacit zealot]

3 adorned (2x2) with healing eff
4 small all with the new hybrid healing eff
2 humble for hybrid spell damage will replace with a unique when i get it. that gives a 200% ish

[vale ravine]

TL;DR crit cap, could upgrade your splitter and siphon, Ekki may help you tank shit you couldnt avoid
could get more flat from passive tree but that will come at a cost

[radiant vortex]

threshold helps tho

can get quite a bit of that

[tacit zealot]

yeah im using battle standard node in javelin for the attunement > damage scaling so no room for int

[radiant vortex]

plenty of stuff with all attributes

[tacit zealot]

not that i can fit in the build

unique reliant

[zealous junco]

damn haha. thay RF build must be super neiche 😦 only found one vid on it haha

[junior wren]

You don't understand the problem. We go from 0 to 8k ward in 3-4 seconds. We want the Ward to stay longer than it does now.
Adding threshold moves this to 1k to 9k in 3-4 seconds, but it still evaporates away.

[vale ravine]

waht is up with my nihilis drops lol

[mental echo]

so guy just drop a 2LP nihil

[junior wren]

you need either ward per second, or ward retention (and primarily ward retention stat) to slow down the decay

[tacit zealot]

once i get +4 holy aura ill be getting those retention nodes also

[mental echo]

im still missing so much good gear

[radiant vortex]

Threshold cuts decay down by its relative amount

[fast tundra]

I mean you can, its just infinitely more annoying

[mental echo]

like every peace of gear needs upgrades but im so unlucky with drops

[radiant vortex]

Sure here the case is that you get so much ward rising the threshold relatively is too high an opportunity cost

[tacit zealot]

im using the health for ward affix in mine so exang for now till i can make the experimental gloves with t7 cast speed

[fast tundra]

1×1 small weaver idols roll it

After all

Its about same value you just get other secondary mods that arent as great

[mental echo]

why do people use this on judgement btw

[tacit zealot]

all i get are these ones XD

[junior wren]

no, acolytes get it as a suffix on their 2x2. We have to trade our %inc healing idol for it 🙂

[mental echo]

seems to me the only thing that you benefit from is the strenght and +1

[junior wren]

judgement is a spell, and the relic has implicit 20% health

[mental echo]

yah i know but thats all it gives

[tacit zealot]

if only soulfire wasnt better for us lol

[radiant vortex]

huh kinda goes hard

[junior wren]

show me a relic that gives 20% HP, 16 STR, +1 skill and generates ward each time you use your main attack skill 😄

[mental echo]

it doesnt give ward tho

[junior wren]

but yes, technically you're correct, that is all it gives 😄

[mental echo]

cuz that doesnt work with judgement

[junior wren]

why not?

[mental echo]

idk but it aint giving me ward

[tacit zealot]

does with healing hands

if you have the ward nodes scaled and the health up front lol

[junior wren]

well if it doesn't generate ward, then judgement shouldn't have the spell tag it has

[tacit zealot]

you also need to heal for the ward to activate

[mental echo]

hmm only for self casted hands tho

[gloomy orchid]

what is the maximum +skill one can get?

[radiant vortex]

judgement is a lil weird in that its both an attack and a spell

so you hit with it and that makes a spell effect

[mental echo]

so that relic gives me +1 18% life and strenght

[tacit zealot]

then 1 stat from an exalted

[junior wren]

depends on the skill. if you mean generic + all skills, then maybe +3?

+4, there's that axe

[radiant vortex]

+2 amulet +1 generic relic, +1 axe/sword

[fast tundra]

True, didnt realise they are both prefixes on small idols

[tacit zealot]

what was the other item you suggested besides the strand belt? anything for retention in gloves besides frostbite?

[gloomy orchid]

for judgement

[mental echo]

hmm

[junior wren]

vessel of strife, aurora's time glass

[mental echo]

guess im just trying to farm shattered worlds then

[radiant vortex]

+7 at least

[gloomy orchid]

wow 5 from relic and where else?

[radiant vortex]

+4-5 easily

[junior wren]

+5 on relic, +2 on body armor, +1 on weapon, +1 shield, +2 on amulet, so 31?

[radiant vortex]

So many skills where gettin more than +5 feels so excessive

[mental echo]

why would you go to 31 for judgement tho

not much you can take if you go hit judgement

[radiant vortex]

fun

[junior wren]

judgement is THE skill you want as many points as possible. so many good nodes on that tree

[tacit zealot]

whats your work around so far?

[junior wren]

I added some HP regen and Vessel is producing ward per second

[fast tundra]

I dropped a 2 lp vessel yesterday just going in there to legendary some boots rq lmao

[mental echo]

hmm

[radiant vortex]

HH also can be made to benefit from all your buff skills levels

[tacit zealot]

why not soulfire relic?

whats in your glove slot?

ya know what link me your current setup

[mental echo]

wait wich body gives +2

[junior wren]

in my glove slot? some trash, 2lp falcon fists with t5 attack speed

[mental echo]

also you can get +2 from weapon

if you get a good scissors

[tacit zealot]

attack speed? i thought you was div bolts pally

[radiant vortex]

wings is +2 fire melee I'm assumin

[junior wren]

yes i am, but melee divine bolts 🙂

[tacit zealot]

ahh im caster

[junior wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3XtN-_NOZU link in desc

[mental echo]

ah yah wings is +2 yah

[junior wren]

that's right the new sword gives +2. And I forgot the old sword, naal's, which also gives +2 😄

so dual wield over weapon+shield

[tacit zealot]

i know smite is good damage but if your main skill is healing hands why not do javelin for the extra "buff" damage node scaling?

[radiant vortex]

whaat no bolt on 0 cost

psojed why you no meme :D

[junior wren]

I tried it. It barely procced, and it's bugged 😄

[radiant vortex]

13% for 1x4s not enough for you

[junior wren]

it always fires the bolts from idol proc to the right side regardless of where the enemy stands

[radiant vortex]

you do do it

[junior wren]

I proc smite with palarus, so I get the buff anyway. And I removed javelin in favor of judgement aura

[tacit zealot]

they dont get the buff tags though do they?

[radiant vortex]

smites? no no no

I meant the javelin, you turn it into a banner to get the buff tag

[tacit zealot]

my smites through javelin lol

[radiant vortex]

if you're using it, I like it for the movement more than anything

[tacit zealot]

yes finn i know lol thats also what im saying

[radiant vortex]

banner jump not being a traversal is so sweet

[tacit zealot]

i was asking pso why they didnt go it for the buff tag on hh XD

i dont use it for traversal though

[radiant vortex]

he just said: judgement aura

[tacit zealot]

not yet anyway i have a 0lp imolators so only cdr is boots/tree

[junior wren]

oh, because I have enough damage to comfortably clear monos with bolts, but bossing is slow. as evidenced by that video 😄

[strong plume]

Alright done editting and uploading the Major Update for the Void Forge Guard Shield Throw build: https://youtu.be/nxcdLfhsCLA

[tacit zealot]

yes and you replied to me about the buff after he mentioned it and answered lol

im not new finn im just exploring options outside of what im used to with this build XD

[mental echo]

fak i kinda have to swap now

[gentle falcon]

Ahh man if you wanna just delete that its ok

[tacit zealot]

healing hands has been my go to starter since the skill released but ive always built the same way so trying to see what else is fun and available haha

[radiant vortex]

you were caster right

[mental echo]

i prefer scissors tho

more attackspeed and +2

[junior wren]

it's good you did. The skill is bugged every season in different ways, and only the caster version was rather unaffected

[radiant vortex]

doing crit? new gloves go hard on paper

[small veldt]

Which ones?

[radiant vortex]

+4% crit chance, dmg taken over time, get hit for x of mana cost

[small veldt]

Is elcoe's innovation a trap for crit based builds or actually sorta pog?

[radiant vortex]

Grasp of the Blood MAge

[tacit zealot]

not really a fan of melee unless its Righteous "judgement haha

[radiant vortex]

that was the name

[junior wren]

it is kinda annoying to avoid some attacks, where I could just stand AFK previously 😄

[radiant vortex]

can't relate

[tacit zealot]

oh i know i did div bolts pally in 1.0 and could generate 100k+ ward. so much it would over lap on the ward bar and start again so always looked like i had 2-5k ward when i had far more than that haha

then 1.1 hit and i felt it and was like yeah, nahh and went onto other games till 1.2

[small veldt]

Is this something that'd be of use for crit lightning jav?

[junior wren]

it was still pretty OP in 1.1. Even with synthesis of light bugged and requiring 100% instead of 10%

[radiant vortex]

for any crit build pmuch

[tacit zealot]

but dont wanna do a 1:1 recreation so im trying to focus other priorities like full healing eff instead of full fire damage and going more crit multi than i did before

[radiant vortex]

you rockin grasp of the blood mages turtle?

[small veldt]

Ta, trying to work out how my item economy looks of normal items vs uniques

[tacit zealot]

only sat at 41% crit though since im now using a shield instead of a crit implicit offhand

[tacit zealot]

nah judgement gloves atm for the fire pen/attunement

[small veldt]

Don't want to go to heavy on uniques

[radiant vortex]

ah yeah makes sense

[tacit zealot]

ran out of fp trying to get a low tier on the freeze to seal

[small veldt]

Also i have chest, gloves and helmet so i can utilize the last bear set bonus

That 30 strenght is nice on the 3 set

[tacit zealot]

im more than happy to change gloves though its just a BIS ive found atm

[junior wren]

nice

I should fix my gloves too

[tacit zealot]

a lil throwing speed wouldnt be bad for the javelin

atm with no retention i lose over half my ward just placing it down again lol

[lethal needle]

Does anyone know if auto cast smites can echo if they've been converted to void?

[tacit zealot]

wouldnt that be acting like an echo procing an echo which isnt possible?

[lethal needle]

I have no idea

[polar spire]

echoes are only on direct uses

[tacit zealot]

i dont do void knight so i dont know myself lol

[radiant vortex]

I theorycrafted this mess pre launch
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaKNWnNA

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (25) / Paladin (68)

General:

▸ Health: 1,913, Regen: 236.07/s
▸ Mana: 408.64, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 101 Att / 7 Vit
▸ Resistances: 204% / 91% / 91% / 94% / 106% / 110% / 97%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 756
▸ Armor Mitigation: 58% (4,162)
▸ Block Chance: 57%, Mitigation: 43% (1,505)

Used skills:

Javelin / Judgement / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[radiant vortex]

Mad Lad-ledin

[tacit zealot]

put tilde or something in front of the link so it doesnt post the bot

not now but in future

[lethal needle]

Ok, thank you!

[radiant vortex]

I know I forgot :(

on phone is hard

[fiery talon]

Oh I think I just figured out a good way to use rebuke aggressively, you don't really need to charge it up unless you're intentionally blocking hits, you can also use it to do a combo like lunge > vengeance to get ripostes up > rebuke (tap or hold briefly) and it'll burst a whole group

[radiant vortex]

as long as it works for you thats good

[tacit zealot]

why phantom?

[radiant vortex]

give me a sec to try and recall wtf I was thinkin 2 weeks back

[radiant vortex]

oh okay yeah this build used to have manifest armour and the new ox chest

so I kind of just forgot some minion stuff on it pmuch only to boost base crit

[tacit zealot]

also why DOT on chest and not hybrid?

[radiant vortex]

cos mistake I guess? >_>

[heady warren]

does judgement conc ground stack?

[radiant vortex]

like logis and phantom are there pmuch only for + to base crit for ease of cappin

[tacit zealot]

you've had to focus a lot of resistances where i havent yet im overcapped but idk why lol

[crude pawn]

WTF i got there

[tacit zealot]

#👑┃item-showcase

[radiant vortex]

just sentinel things

[tacit zealot]

its my shield, ammy and relic

ive been neglecting suffixes unless its like hybrid damage or pen lol

[radiant vortex]

What I'm currently rockin ingame
~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BElNlgeQ

[tacit zealot]

for a totally different build altogether

[radiant vortex]

yeah the earlier link was a theorycraft

I went with a phalanx electrify stacker which I have been able to tank everything to the 750 corruption I'm at now

My dps however suuuuuuucks

[small veldt]

Concentration does nothing if you don't use the active effect of holy aura right?

[tacit zealot]

~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A662zeLA

thats me currently

[fiery talon]

the unique relic is the better option for rebuke, yeah? I can't imagine one extra level of rebuke adding much compared to that unique

[tacit zealot]

ignore blessings lol ive not farmed other timelines

just spirit of fire for 1lp firey dragon boots so i can slam more move speed on them

[lilac sparrow]

https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/59218081153847922/AB9684E2C6EFEC28D7CFEABCF7752169AACCB428/

is this good

[tacit zealot]

left one is more survivability because of the resistences and the increased armour on implicit. the unique one only has health regen the rest is for damage. so it depends what you feel you need

it also depends where you allocate the +1 and on the off chance you're able to find more shards to upgrade that +1 will go to +2 at t5

[polar spire]

The right one, as rebuke makes you tanky enough, though it cant get LP, and i strongly recommend all resists while channeling on relics, if you're going for a dps rebuke build lol

[tacit zealot]

you'll most likely find better than both soon though

[fiery talon]

I'm pretty beefy at this point in the campaign, so I'll just stash the +1rebuke and maybe forge it or shatter it later

[polar spire]

You can get a stronger version of the flower relic off the soul gambler in the fire dungeon

Its phys/fire spells, all the same affixes

And that one can get lp

Theres also a rebuke amulet

[radiant vortex]

cool stuff, I personally like the lil +3% block chance here and there nodes too much to ignore em but I guess you got shield mainly for the spell dmg

[small veldt]

What options for transversal skills does paladin have, i'm not seeing any good options. I'm not using a shield so that's not viable

[polar spire]

Shield rush, lunge, healing hands, void cleave, javelin, smite, uhhhh i cant brain right now i know im missing one

[silk wasp]

Reversal

[tacit zealot]

yeah i was gonna focus armour/ward stacking for my defence instead of block since the nodes later in the pally tree which used to have extra block was changed. ill be going rahyeh light like you did though but for the affixes rather than the block/shield combo specifically

[polar spire]

Actually javelins traversal isnt traversal tagged, so you can run it with a traversal and have 2 mobility skills

[radiant vortex]

I'd drop points off VK until you got holy precision capped tho

[small veldt]

Oh! I was spelling traversal wrong...

[polar spire]

Healing hands traversal is bugged and lets you run through walls
Smites requires a target but lets you teleport through walls and over gaps

[small veldt]

That's why i wasn't getting any results

[heady warren]

anyone got info on this?

[small veldt]

I use idols to trigger smite

[dense ocean]

i dont see myself replacing it any time soon 🥲

[small veldt]

So won't have the points for that

[fiery talon]

That sounds very good, definitely gotta get my hands on that

[small veldt]

I'll go HH

[polar spire]

The traversal is on direct casts, if you're auto casting it its fine, but if direct casting, then nada

[radiant vortex]

not all tho, like just everything above 15 required for the point bonus

[tacit zealot]

ive been here on 41% crit wondering why tf im so low..........i thought i took that node -_- thanks for pointing it out hahahah

[fiery talon]

I love vengeance and rebuke so I wanna stack them as much as I can, having a lot of success using rebuke aggressively now too

[radiant vortex]

the res + bonus are solid af

[small veldt]

I'm also specced into the lightning side of the tree of smite

So i doubt i have the points to get the traversal

[polar spire]

Ive done a purely rebuke spellcaster before, it gets +20 flat damage per hit taken, kinda rough to build around
Bottom right of rives tree makes it do a spell based wave every few attacks, works great on Jaspers Searing Pride Rive

[fiery talon]

Yeah, maybe if you scale enough phys spell damage that flat damage bonus can scale decently? might be worth experimenting with at least

[polar spire]

Ive done it, the problem is it requires you to be hit a lot within 4s
A LOT

[fiery talon]

I've found that using lunge and then holding it in the middle of a horde for like half a second to a second and then releasing is actually a really powerful combo

[radiant vortex]

just show em your dm's and you'll get assaulted

[fiery talon]

And then in like situations where you won't be hit as frequently you can use vengeance + rebuke to tank a big hit and still deal ok damage

[polar spire]

?

[radiant vortex]

bad joke

ignore me

[earnest bay]

Question about vengeance, the build guide suggests switching from multistrike to vengeance when I get the armor affix that regens mana with vengeance is there a real benefit to switching because I have the affix now

[small veldt]

This is what i'm prolly going to run. Still tweaking my "ideal" setup as i know this many t7 affixes is unreal
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Apw74Kdo

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (24) / Paladin (69)

General:

▸ Health: 3,418, Regen: 140.97/s
▸ Mana: 156.36, Regen: 11.17/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 85 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 111% / 93% / 6% / 85% / 51% / 107%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 69%, Threshold: 1,066
▸ Armor Mitigation: 70% (6,570)

Used skills:

Javelin / Holy Aura / Smite / Symbols of Hope / Healing Hands

[small veldt]

I'm also still tweaking all of the stats etc

[polar spire]

If its 1 t7 per slot, thats fine, almost all my pieces on my current build have T7's
Hell my boots have double T7 suffixes

[fiery talon]

I don't follow a build guide so I couldn't tell you but my impression so far is that vengeance will do better numbers assuming 1: you can attack fast enough to keep riposte up for the amount of attacks you are taking and 2: the amount of enemies/how fast attacks are hitting you

so it's a situationally very powerful skill

[radiant vortex]

alignment would be such a sweet sweet passive to take if you didn't have to take the -mana cost to get the divine bolt nodes on HH...

[unique lily]

is 100% void dmg blessing or 40% crit mult better

for es

[small veldt]

Stupid discord

Replied to the wrong person

Or not

[small veldt]

Ye, just being upfront and realistic. Some of the t7's are also bloody rare like t7 % health

[radiant vortex]

anyone know of any way to increase HH's mana cost by like 4 points

[earnest bay]

I’m really only using multistrike to regenerate mana and generate ward when I need it. Judgment melts absolutely everything in my path.

[tacit zealot]

yeah they clearly knew how we would think hahaha

[radiant vortex]

wait isn't there a shield for this

[polar spire]

True, i see T7 flat health FAR more than i see % health

[keen jewel]

I've been doing barnacle woven thing but sentinel one seems better

[polar spire]

My boots have T7 crit avoid and hybrid health

[tacit zealot]

wtf thats not what i want..........if retention maybe..............

[radiant vortex]

both help tho

r6 max only tho

[tacit zealot]

not the retention

[small veldt]

Also, 412% lightning damage is on the low end

[hollow echo]

man I thought I was doing damage with my acolyte

but then I leveled VK

[tacit zealot]

thats me idle

[hollow echo]

[radiant vortex]

yeah could be 965

imagine

Giga

[polar spire]

If lightning fissure, yes, if multistrike smite, no

[tacit zealot]

oof

now you mention it

[small veldt]

Lightning javelin

Lightning javelin crit

[fiery talon]

Oh are you talking about the uh "Time and Faith" sentinel passive?

[polar spire]

Ive no idea for that one, im at like 300% lightning damage and breeze through 700c right now with multistrike smite

[small veldt]

Nice

[radiant vortex]

what if...

wait what order are incs calced

is it before or after flat reduces

[tacit zealot]

if only i didnt need the crit

[radiant vortex]

get the +base gloves and that node on tree

[small veldt]

Wait, it just hit me, turani's directly buffs my smite damage

[tacit zealot]

need cast speed and the experimental ward affix for gloves

[slate owl]

have you tried uberroth ?

[tacit zealot]

so i can replace exang for more defences

[radiant vortex]

if inc cost is calced after flat reductions then that shield doesn't put hh to 10 with divine bolts node

[raven jackal]

Is lighting smite just way better then fire smite?

[earnest bay]

Yeah, I just realized that it procs with vengeance as well

[radiant vortex]

the base is common, 2lp shouldn't be hard

[polar spire]

Nope, too busy farming loot i dont need because i love the lil dopamine rush

[raven jackal]

As in orders of magnitude better.

[small veldt]

That last part and a good amount of haste, means that that's A LOT of added damage to smite

[slate owl]

do you have a planner ? I'm curious about MS Smite and how it plays with decent gear

[small veldt]

Haste/throwing speed

[tacit zealot]

tech?

[polar spire]

Nope, its so dirt easy to setup that ive just been winging it, it doesnt need a planner

[radiant vortex]

stop linkin this spear makes me feel bad about my phalanx memes

:D

[small veldt]

Hah, don't have it yet lol

[tacit zealot]

would make the "less" cast speed node more valuable also

[small veldt]

But i'd love to have it

[radiant vortex]

I mean sure if you wanna limit your cast rate // not scale cast rate

the node after that goes hard but it can't crit I believe

the auto beam thing

[tacit zealot]

you'd be trading cast speed for a shit tonne more damage though since you take the less cast speed node which doesnt affect for a big chunk to dps and then you get the +10 mana cost for the inc eff node

[radiant vortex]

eeyup

if it works, not sure if cost per second = mana cost for the sake of that node