🔱┃sentinel

[halcyon vigil]

how do i permanently show all roll ranges

[tardy mirage]

yes it will ... there isnt any restriction other than needing a 2 hander to use it

[fierce harness]

So incredibly lucky lol

[trim basin]

do i continue rerolling affixes on this?

[fierce harness]

There's a setting on gameplay somewhere, iirc

[trim basin]

still got a bunch of failures from nemesis

[short viper]

it seems like a really good hardcore option, if nothing else

[tardy mirage]

that is fair

[fierce harness]

Under gameplay, interface

[trim basin]

actually

this is kinda big right?

all the good void weapons are 2h

[tardy mirage]

probably

thats alot of block chance

[short viper]

the increased armor is huge

[trim basin]

anyone know if this is acceptable or?

[radiant vortex]

ehh playing void on FG is a lil... <_< you really miss the echo on VK

[short viper]

that's the shield i mentioned as basically the main viable option

[tardy mirage]

what about the new shield from woven place

[radiant vortex]

you can do some funny stuff sure but your milage may vary

[fierce harness]

you also lose out on singular purpose 10% more damage

[vestal mirage]

just got 15 stacks of poison at 300 corr and didn't have enough potions or leech to live. lol. like 1.2k damage to me every second

[fierce harness]

Although usually we're not short on that

[trim basin]

i think i continue rerolling? i honestly have no idea how good a nihilis has to be to be better than an omnis

[tardy mirage]

sounds good ... you can use that with the big 2hander

[vast portal]

dang hybrid health didnt hit

[tardy mirage]

or worldsplitter ig

[radiant vortex]

cleanse ailments goes hard for belt

[trim basin]

so uh
what stats are important on nihilis?

[tardy mirage]

was thinking of apathy maw tho

[trim basin]

i assume less armor hurts?

and i assume only having 1% inc health hurts

[wheat light]

look at this sick thing

[silk cedar]

you can use your bricked nemesis egg nihilises to reroll this one

[trim basin]

im aware
i was asking
what stats should i look at

[trim basin]

to know if it's good enough

[halcyon vigil]

chance to ignite.. on a lightning sword..

[silk cedar]

the ones you want

[trim basin]

so
mana, health, armor, res, and skill level

[wheat light]

it gets converted

[tardy mirage]

wish you would have gotten higher skill lvls

[halcyon vigil]

arent all conversions only affecting the trees they're in

[wheat light]

on smite

[trim basin]

holy fk

bad frenzy duration, and bad movespeed
but everything else seems kinda insane

[wheat light]

insane

I need one so bad

[trim basin]

keep?

[peak scroll]

I feel it's a good roll

[wheat light]

I need to grind out a bunch of abby kills

[queen valley]

is advent of the erased a really low drow rate?

[trim basin]

go higher or slam on nihilis?

[short viper]

advent? boots? they're super common

you will be drowning in them if you spec weaver drops on the tree

[trim basin]

got a 137 on another amulet

[queen valley]

i have speced weaver drops in the tree haha, cant get any to drop

[trim basin]

ok so theres one slight problem now that i took off my omnis

[radiant vortex]

lul

[trim basin]

swap crit avoidance for all res?

or is that not worth?

[lethal relic]

you can solve this problem with a couple of idols

[radiant vortex]

is your crit avoid capped

[trim basin]

no

[radiant vortex]

if its not capped at all then yeah cap your resists

[trim basin]

how does reduced extra damage from crits work?

is it actually viable or?

[radiant vortex]

Extremely

You choose one to cap, reduced dmg or avoid

If you're capped at 100% reduced crits are basically just normal hits

[trim basin]

oh good to know! heard it was bad because it just reduced enemys crit multi
(and therefore enemies outscale it)

good to know that's misinfo

[tardy mirage]

they still count as crits tho ... and i think we have some effects that can use that

[radiant vortex]

not on enemies really

[tardy mirage]

i thought we had some when you get critted effects

[radiant vortex]

I can't recall but as long as those aren't massively negative it beats gettin hit for 2x dmg

[tardy mirage]

lol

[radiant vortex]

where'd you hear that lmao

[trim basin]

this discord, back during like 0.8 i think?

[radiant vortex]

Sentinel has pmuch free reduction cap

[trim basin]

mine is minroll and 0fp sadly

but yeah tomorrow's project will be getting a decent greathelm

with some nice t7 %mana preferrably

[vast portal]

pain

[trim basin]

anyways
today was uh
productive in terms of gear?

[fierce harness]

Thoughts on seed of ekkidrasil for erasing strike VK?

[trim basin]

the problem is that youre also using titan heart

like
titan heart has some insane affixes but a really shit base
this has some insane affixes but a really shit base

so together
you just dont have any flat armor

[fierce harness]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. It deletes my armor

Fubgun was running it last I checked tho, wonder what his thoughts are on it

[trim basin]

niice

thats +5 judgement right?

[radiant vortex]

as long as your armour % loss is not greater than the transfer to mana you're pmuch coming out massively on top

you need to have enough mana for that tho

like as long as any hit isn't > 4x of your mana pool (actually a lot more cos endurance) and you have a way to get mana back the helms great defensively

[trim basin]

problem is you just never really get past 33% of your mana

and with 1k mana that means you get an additional 300ish ehp

which seems
not that great?

[queen valley]

what boots should i run for judgement pali?

[radiant vortex]

build dependant sure, I'm always max mana myself but my pools also not that big

[trim basin]

oh we were talking about ES

[tardy mirage]

ic

[radiant vortex]

I do think that 300 extra hitpool is a lot tho

[trim basin]

i think it's much easier to get 300 more max hp

[radiant vortex]

you could also look into scrappin titans heart

[queen valley]

my guide shows advent of the erased but with LP2, but it only has weavers will not LP

[radiant vortex]

Null Portent / Wall of Nothing go hard

[trim basin]

titan's heart gives 40% hp tho
which
tends to be more than 300

[wheat light]

does the 110% increased cost for healing hands on melee hit apply before or after all the -mana cost

[raven jackal]

It seems like most people are playing void knight and paladin. Did forge guard not get much of a change?

[radiant vortex]

Null is 20% and up to 20% less dmg taken for each overcapped res while giving massive leech

[trim basin]

the leech is kinda useless

[gleaming rock]

is exchanging keys for a portal worth it?

[radiant vortex]

Wall gives more chance to take 0 dmg and massive amounts of ward threshold dependant on endurance

[short viper]

FG is just tentative on the damage front and most people are SC players

[trim basin]

since siphon is mandatory either way for the doom chance

[gleaming rock]

ive never dealt with endgame LE

[trim basin]

also
null is only 220 armor

youd still destroy your flat armor that way

[radiant vortex]

titan perfect is 214

[trim basin]

yes, and a sentinel exalt is 700

a sentinel exalt helmet is 550

[radiant vortex]

Don't know your build, don't know your gear, just talkin thru things you can do

and how flat % of reduction isn't always the best when all the sources pmuch stack

[trim basin]

it's basically the standard ES build
i.e. leonine greathelm, titan heart, worldsplitter, siphon+chains

[radiant vortex]

armour is only one layer and it's effectiveness is most important for phys dmg anyway which isn't that massively important <_< (unless you're convertin elements taken to phys)

[trim basin]

well, you see

[radiant vortex]

I repeat Null can get up to 20%

[fierce harness]

Titan is 20% less damage taken, null is 15, but gives way less life, sadly. Also, we already have so much leech on vk that usually you only die to one shots anyway

[radiant vortex]

wrong way around ^

[fierce harness]

Although I've been thinking about whether the swap is worth it as well

[trim basin]

also leonine gives up to 85% reduced damage from crits

as its implicit

[radiant vortex]

I was mainly statin about how good the helm is, titan is a lot simpler and avg better than the other options I'm talking about here

[idle canopy]

rune of havoc can hit on crafted affixes?

[radiant vortex]

Yeah that's my main issue with swappin off it

[peak scroll]

Yes

[radiant vortex]

I got some massive crafted boots w crit reduce I could use but I'd like to keep mountains for the all attri and endurance %

[queen valley]

What boots are people using on judgement build?

[boreal bridge]

the great idol purging 😂

[gleaming rock]

American EHG Idol competition

[trim basin]

honestly
probably worth to blacklist non-weaver small idols from the filter

kinda hate how useless they are now

[boreal bridge]

yeah I just filtered it out, but until now I was collecting random trash idols lmao

[radiant vortex]

wish we could like sac them to get weavers

[boreal bridge]

omg YEAH truuuu

like idm if it's like 5 : 1 weaver or smth

[vestal mirage]

gonna be my first time ever attempting abby. time to go in blind 🙂

[boreal bridge]

gd lucck

[paper sonnet]

wtb loot filter

[chilly peak]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[trim basin]

you're in the #🔱┃sentinel channel so youre probably fine

[vale ravine]

For the portent discussion lil bit above: the problem i dont see ppl discussing is the opportunity cost. How many suffix slots which would have been health otherwise are you giving up for 30% all res just to get back to the level of titan's heart, minus 20% increased health

No way it's worth it

[vestal mirage]

can confirm

kinda just facetanked it in normal

[vale ravine]

This is the way lol

[radiant vortex]

on sentinel you can accidentally get 100% in all res

[vale ravine]

Or one shot it with storm crows i guess

[radiant vortex]

<_< it's not that hard

[vale ravine]

Which is 2.5% less dr and 20% less health%? 🙂

The "up to 20" aint free

[radiant vortex]

? 100% with null is 25% above cap which is 12.5%

even I mathed it wrong lmao

[vale ravine]

So, 2.5% less than TH? 🙂

[little oyster]

Is this a debate on null portent vs titan heart?

[radiant vortex]

yeah thats why I was confused

you only need to get to 115% res total and thats not that hard on Sentinel

Sure it's less HP but the final piece is this: weavers HP regen + Hp idols are so good

[fierce harness]

It's also worth pointing out that sentinel already gets some less damage taken mods here and there. This is important cause the more less damage taken you stack the more powerful the mod is, right? Since going from 100% to 80% is a 20% reduction, but going from 95% to 75% is a 79% reduction

[vale ravine]

I mean maybe, but also, do you rly need any regen with HH
If you are making the case for a HHless build that could be something I guess but then i wonder if that would still enable you facetanking abby

[fierce harness]

Assuming those mods are additive

[vestal mirage]

max roll armor but min roll on everything else 😦

[little oyster]

Wait, I believe you, but can you walk me through that math?

[radiant vortex]

I never mentioned HH but I do use it as triggered for hittin more often the heals not that great <_< its more for the electrify stacks and DR from necro / void

[fierce harness]

You have 100% dmg taken. Enemy does 1000, you take 1000.
You have 90% damage taken, enemy does 1000, you take 900.
Comparatively, that's 10% less damage.

You add 10% less damage taken. You have 80% damage taken, enemy does 800. That's 800/900 = 88.88% of what you were taking before.

So adding less damage taken modifiers is stronger the more of them you already have

[fierce harness]

as a response to this

Crazier example, if you have 50% damage reduction, you take 50% of damage. If you add 10% more damage reduction, you take 40% of damage. So instead of 500 you're taking 400, so that's 20% less damage taken by stacking it

[trim basin]

No amulet 😔

[fierce harness]

Assuming, again, that the stat is additive

[vale ravine]

DRs are multiplicative tho but ye

[fierce harness]

Which I'm not 100% sure on

[fierce harness]

Yeah, needed someone to confirm that

[little oyster]

That makes sense. Thank you very much.

[vestal mirage]

How do I get access to the Uber version now that I've killed normal?

[fierce harness]

(this math is also why resistances are so broken. Going from 50% res to 75% is 50% less damage taken from that dmg type)

[trim basin]

No it isnt, in LE

[vestal mirage]

I see. So I'm good to send normal abbys and farm him?

[little oyster]

Being multiplicative just means DR is best when it comes from as many different sources as possible, yes?

[trim basin]

Resists go from -75% to 0%

[radiant vortex]

tbf all this is about "optimizing" which do you really need on 90% of Sentinel builds

[vale ravine]

uhm, no

[trim basin]

Do you want to kill uber abarroth?

[little oyster]

Do I have it backwards?

[radiant vortex]

I tried, he hits hard D:

I do need some dps as well tho, I can't play 'perfect' for 10m

[trim basin]

Yeah thats my point
Theres always a reason to minmax more

[radiant vortex]

or however long it'd take to actually kill him, got like 5% off before I died at best

[fierce harness]

Multiplicative means higher values are better. Two 10% mults will be 90% * 90% which is 81%, so a 19% reduction. a 20% is better than 2 10% when multiplying

[paper sonnet]

any idea why this isnt working? D:

[fierce harness]

oh, I need to go read on how resistances work then

[radiant vortex]

neat

[fierce harness]

Saw the numbers similar to other games so I just assumed it worked like that

[radiant vortex]

sauce

cos thats how that math just works out

[vale ravine]

in POE it does, ye 🙂

[radiant vortex]

If you're at 50% and you go to 75% you are taking half of what you were already taking

[peak smelt]

monsters get up to 75% pen so it ends up to with 75% being basically 0 dr

and at 0 res you take 75% increased

[vale ravine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1b361or/psa_explanation_of_resistances/

[peak smelt]

so low res isn't as heavily punished

[hybrid turtle]

Anyone here ever messed around with Judgments Consecrated Aura?

[radiant vortex]

oh yeah the damn pen thing I don't know how that completely slipped my mind

yeah that changes the math

[hybrid turtle]

Looking at the stats, you could make something okay out of it, not amazing, but decent

[fierce harness]

And pen applies after the cap, so uncapped resistance doesn't affect this, interesting. So it turns out being at 50% is actually 25% more damage taken than 75% lol

[radiant vortex]

I guess for not having played this game for like a year you forget some stuff

[fierce harness]

This kinda stuff is exactly why games probably shouldn't use additive percentages on stats, it leads to the most counter intuitive stat scaling sometimes lol

At least multiplicative stats are intuitive

[radiant vortex]

one could argue additive is more intuitive if you're not math brained <_<

[peak smelt]

I think the whole reason with the innate pen is that you don't get as high difference as in like poe

[radiant vortex]

cos its just 1:1 in this case

[peak smelt]

between 50% 75% and 90%

[trim basin]

Honestly
Go complain in #1210281911872786482
It's communicated horribly, and LE should probably not display their resists exactly like Diablo and poe do if they work differently

[radiant vortex]

yeah and you also don't have to do a lot of scalin behind the scenes like they do in PoE2

[peak smelt]

it is explained if you hover over resists in game pretty sure

either that or in the game guide

[radiant vortex]

to make it less punishing to not cap on low levels while also keepin the scalin

[peak smelt]

I forgot where exactly

[rain wasp]

Good morning! :) I've been following Maxrolls guide for the Jusgement paladin, and have a question about the importance of stacking attack speed, which the build refers to as 'big damage booster' on several occasions. However, it doesn't specify why it's so important. It's a generator & spender build, so I guess attack speed would make generator go faster, but are there any direct synergies between attack speed and the judgement skill itself, outside of just being able to trigger it in rapid succession?

[fierce harness]

It really isn't: you equip an item that says "25% fire resistance" and now you're taking half the damage you were before (because you were at 50% res, now you're at 75%) vs you equip it and take 25% less fire damage

[trim basin]

Sadly you cant assume people read tutorials

Especially not for systems they think they already know

[radiant vortex]

again seeing a stat and having to math that -25 Points off of 50 taken is half dmg

[fierce harness]

Technically they work the same as in PoE, it's just that mobs have inate pen. The guide explains the stat properly and it works exactly like it would in PoE (except edge cases like order of shred vs pen). It's the mobs having inate pen that makes it different lol

[peak smelt]

idk I've played so much poe that I kinda just expect people to be able to read

[radiant vortex]

is not as intuitive naturally as -25 = -25

[peak smelt]

but that's fair, I don't think the res system is that intuitive but I get why they went that route

[radiant vortex]

like I get what you're saying and I do understand the math

I'm just telling you the avg joe doesn't

[left yacht]

decent weapon to start spinning at lvl 70 ?

[peak smelt]

it makes sense if you just think of the capped value as 0

[radiant vortex]

The res system is very much "I have this number so I take that much less, addin to it never changes the value of the addition"

[vast portal]

@worthy pine swapped to vengeance, 100% the move, that's completely unbalanced LOL

[trim basin]

I mean sure, but i wouldn't poe players to read "press left mouse button to move, press right mouse button to attack"
Because they already know that, that's how it works in every other arpg

[fierce harness]

which is why mobs have precisely 75% pen, I assume

Still an easy "gotcha" if you miss it lol

Not that it's the most relevant thing anyway

[worthy pine]

w

[radiant vortex]

if you then think deeper of it at all yeah it makes no sense cos it's actually Res - Enemy Pen not Just your Res

[fierce harness]

It does make me feel less bad about not being capped xD

[gusty plinth]

Hi I just wanted to say sentinel is best class ever, erasing strike is literally best skill I ever played in the games.I love walking up to some big ass mob and just deleting him from this planet, I’ve become so addicted to this game after swapping from warlock even tho warlock is great as well.

[radiant vortex]

which agian I completely forgot about here earlier

reading does help tho

some tooltips are outdated but this game least does a good job about having all of em

[fierce harness]

Completely missing from the guide though, which is supposed to be more thorough, and is where I double checked before writing out the math xD

Will drop it on feedback, since I'm on the discord already

[radiant vortex]

the guide is not at all more thorough

its been neglected so long its just bare bones

[gloomy orchid]

is the % dmg in skill points are all stronger than increase % dmg in gears?

[radiant vortex]

it does say penetration at the end there

which I'd assume would tell you the enemies penetrate 75%

[radiant vortex]

skills usually have more multipliers that are multiplicative with others so they are very important for stackin dmg

but you do also need the increases in gear that add together and then get multiplied

[fierce harness]

The page for pen does include it, but if it's important enough to be on the tooltip, it follows that it should be important enough to be on the guide page. But it's a mute point

[radiant vortex]

oh yeah it is not well communicated at all

[vast portal]

which is why if you simply cap your res and have 0 armor 0 endurance 0 dodge you feel like everything one shots you, because the res just stops penetration not the actual damage theyre usually doing

[rain wasp]

A follow-up questions on the Judgement build. The guide also states "Hold down Vengeance and Judgement at the same time to immediately use Judgement when you have Mana available. Vengeance must be to the right of Judgement on your Action Bar for this to work.". What is the reasoning behind this logic?

[fierce harness]

Getting 750k hits on aberroth (:

[vast portal]

now imagine some armor shred on that thing

[vestal mirage]

can you have a max amount of active prophecies

I'm trying to spend my favor and hit rank 12 lol

[peak scroll]

I assume game will try to cast skill on the left before skills to the right, so every tick/activation it'll check whether judgement can be cast or not

[worthy pine]

there is a max

you can see what you have on the faction menu

[vestal mirage]

gotcha

[fierce harness]

The game tries to proc skills from left to right, yeah

[vestal mirage]

lol

[worthy pine]

ez

[rain wasp]

Aha, ok. I guess that makes sense. Still not sure about the role of bar positioning, though, but that could be an inner logic thing within the game itself.

[vale ravine]

letsgooooo

[vestal mirage]

gzzzzzzz

[chilly peak]

wow

[left ravine]

does the divine catalyst node in healing hands tree make it so that divine bolts take all the nodes in the healing hands tree? for example if i take both divine catalyst and consecrated storm, will my divine bolts not have a chance to electrify on hit?

[fierce harness]

Each time, the game tries to proc your pressed skills from left to right. It procs judgement, then you're locked in judgement animation, so it can't proc vengeance. If you can't use judgement though, the game uses vengeance

[short viper]

fits nicely

[worthy pine]

it's always a scam

[short viper]

i'm starting to understand that

[radiant vortex]

oh it was only 6 chests <_<

[rain wasp]

Where is this done?

[radiant vortex]

did it have a multi use?

I need to go slam some

[short viper]

farsight turtle

[rain wasp]

Ok, that's crystal clear, thanks!

[short viper]

oh it is multi use

i'm so poe brained ive been walking away after one time

that's crazy

[rain wasp]

I've never 'slammed' anything in LE 🙈

[short viper]

2 siphons went to 2lp at least

[left yacht]

so in just swipped to Warpath , is it normal to feel zdps ?

[safe gust]

Imagine forcing extra playtime and grind for no reasonx.x

[short viper]

if you're hit warpath and you're not full crit with good multi, yes

[rain turtle]

Wanted to make a new vk char, to try out erasing strike and maybe warpath, any good twink uniques/ legendaries? Also any guide I can follow?

[rain wasp]

@fierce harness May I trouble you with another question, although not directly related to my build..?

[fierce harness]

Sure. shoot

[left yacht]

it feel so worse than the lvl build

[vast portal]

kestrel with LP1-LP3 is really easy to get and you start zooming

[safe gust]

I think arpg players are too reliant on guides

[rain turtle]

Nice got one with 1lp already. What should I slam on? Also any weapon?

[rain wasp]

Is there a way to see what the icons under a mobs health bar (i.e. ailments, stacks of x/y) mean? I thought they would correspond to symbols/icons in the skilltree, but seems they don't.. Would greatly appreciate some insight!

[vast portal]

if youre going to level VK, slap on something like level of warpath/erasing strike or vitality/strength or something, level of warpath also gives you melee damage increased if you're spinning, and erasing strike does void damage increased

[lament dock]

its not an arpg thing its just how humans are. some are going to read everything, but most aren't and not everyone even has the ability to comprehend what they have read. skill is distributed over a pareto distribution and it applies to pretty much everything

[raven jackal]

In the end people want something that they know will work considering the amount of time spent

[fierce harness]

Most of them are ailments, like bleed, poison, ignite, that kind of stuff. Don't know of a way to check which is which tho, you kinda just learn them as you go

[lament dock]

most people dont really care about the game, they are trying to delete time from their life in a pleasurable way. learning would mean their play is sub optimal and they will feel like shit with their free time

[short viper]

so rr is not ALWAYS a scam

[raven jackal]

Not to mention every single second spent not blasting maps and reading skill points/passive points instead is reducing that progression effectiveness

[rain wasp]

There are so many, though. Hard to know what to look out for, when gauging your build efficiency.

[vast portal]

as someone only about a year into ARPGs I think it's feeling like you have small goals you can reach everytime you play versus the whole "i need to figure out what to do next let me spend my 2 hours free this evening figuring out what is even my next course of action", only to then make a mistake and feel like they've spent days of playtime going nowhere, a guide gives them a direct path to a viable build.

[rain wasp]

Easier said than done when you're a dad with 352 kids and 19 wives.

[left yacht]

any recomandation , just switch from judgment lvling to warpath engame , lvl 70 ,no ger

[vestal mirage]

no idea what is causing it but I keep going invincible.....you can see the damage numbers but I don't take any damage. I have to relog to fix it. It has happened 3 times tonight

[lament dock]

Westie, i definitely had that experience while learning POE. I had to switch to ssf to be forced to actually learn the systems and then the game started to get fun over many seasons of learning

[vast portal]

people can have all the free time in the world and still make ZDPS ZSurvivability builds when not following guides, they exist because so many people use them

[rain wasp]

Very true.

[short viper]

i'm genuinely not too sure, the only skill i really play is rive which is not really what warpath players are looking for

[compact oracle]

how would you guys rank the top sent builds rn? erasing strike / judgement / hammers?

[fierce harness]

A lot more interesting than my bugs, that's for sure. Looks like a ward bug?

[pearl geyser]

the endurance threshold buffing bleed is truely my favorite interaction in the game

[vestal mirage]

no clue

[compact oracle]

thinking of swapping to erasing strike been leveling hammers, seems cool to do so much dmg

[vast portal]

coming back after the first cycle, using guides purely as a way to understand how to scale a build then doing something on my own has been really fun but everyone I know playing is using guides because it's just guaranteed to not waste their valuable time

[rain wasp]

Judgement seems to be popping off well.

[lament dock]

I find a lot of the maxroll guides to be suboptimal. they make pretty generic builds that will sort of work, but nothing seems to ever actually be the crazy broken meta builds that everyone eventually wants to play

[short viper]

erasing strike and judgment are both s tier and fissure smite seems to be easiest to get going on a budget

[lament dock]

like they will get you 70% of the way there, but never be on top

[vestal mirage]

any idea where I'd even report this? not even sure what to say since I don't know what causes it

[vast portal]

we'll find out if my void cleave even makes it a tier or two below erasing strike

[compact oracle]

thinking of going erasing, first season as a sent and I jsut want a afaceroller

[lament dock]

for new players they are going to be better than going in blind, but don't expect to be doing the stuff you see the amazing players who stream they game all day

[compact oracle]

my torment lock (main) in other seasons, just isn't a great boss killer

[vestal mirage]

nvm I found the bug report channel

[fierce harness]

Probably here? https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1216758988687937627

[safe gust]

I mean build gudies are fine
But i see people trying to have guides on how to scale corruption
Or how to do monos.

[short viper]

erasing feels bad to start with until you have a decent mana pool and a solid weapon

[rain wasp]

I think they target things that the average joe finds manageable. When you get to the higher levels, 'smart players' will have learned how to optimize and scale things further.

[left yacht]

its okai thx

[fierce harness]

Do you usually not have the ward number over your ward like this?

[compact oracle]

but once you have good gear, I've heard erasing is jsut SILLY

[vestal mirage]

no, I do usually. not sure why the bar is full but no number is there

def looks like a ward bug

[fierce harness]

That's the only thing that jumped to sight on your clip

[fierce harness]

The bar being full is what makes me think that, yeah

[vestal mirage]

the only ward I get is when my ring procs my symbols

[gusty plinth]

I’m leveling as erasing and I’m having a blast deleting everything on my path so far lvl 70

[lament dock]

@Tord -- agree, they target the casual audience and do a good job with that. Their ambassadors, like raxxanterax do a good job of showcasing their builds as well and drive people to the site. Its good for what its.

[raven jackal]

Judgement just feels clunky with the skill use to get mana back.

[pearl geyser]

hammers feel fun

[raven jackal]

Sure its crazy high damage and overwelming hp regen but its still clunky af and really low area of effect

[pearl geyser]

hammers big aoe

[lament dock]

you can get points into +judgement and scale the aoe size

[raven jackal]

Are hammers really that good? Never really tried it

[pearl geyser]

i like them

[rain wasp]

I think so. I've learned a lot from their guides when I got into ARPGs a few years back.

[pearl geyser]

you fight stuff for about half of their health and then because of the ramping they all of a sudden fall over

[brisk crow]

anyone also notice: Javelin Sacred Forge only boost Judgement aura dmg for like 2-3 sec??

after Javelin cd reset, the dmg boost (60%) gone

[raven jackal]

Vengeance, smelter's wrath and shield throw all got changes/overhauls but it seems nonone is playing it

Is it just cause they are not as fancy or fun?

[pearl geyser]

i use shield throw on the CD for the buff

also vengeance is getting a ton of play

[wheat light]

not the sexiest roll but itl do

[brisk crow]

pretty sexy to me

[rough crown]

Is there many time rot void knights here? can anyone confirm if any chance to slow on hit stacks for Rot Grip damage ? because tool tip says chance to slow with void skills.

[summer flint]

It finally hit for warpath

[pearl geyser]

well then

[fast grotto]

damn nice

[brisk crow]

vally sexy

[vestal mirage]

there's also a massive black circle under my character when the bug is active. super weird

[fast grotto]

damn I havent played much but I gotta say, sigils of hope autocasting for free instead of taking 50% of my apm and mana for no reason feels SO good

[chilly peak]

Always something wrong 😦

[scenic hawk]

anyone know if boss unique drop rate is affected by this?

[summer flint]

its not

[pearl geyser]

no, thats a guaranteed unique

[serene vigil]

Maybe I'm a bit thick but what's the point of the Maxroll leveling guide as a Paladin if I want a Void Knight?
As far as I recall you can't change masteries once picked?

And it says to 'switch' from the leveling guide (paladin) to the void knight guide at level 85

[pearl geyser]

jyou can now

[serene vigil]

Oh shit really?

[pearl geyser]

however, the benefits to leveling as paladin vs vk are greatly overstated imo

yes, really

[young ridge]

is this thing any good?

[pearl geyser]

yes

[serene vigil]

Very cool. Nice that they added it. Never did like 'no take-backs'
Thanks!

[peak scroll]

If it's your first character, the gold cost will probably keep you locked longer than you'd want

Opposed to just leveling as the class you wanted to play

[simple grotto]

Anyone playing dorb time rot and have any tips for starting out?

[turbid dome]

Good weapon

[wheat light]

damn, used one havoc and rolled this

does ES want attunement?

[gusty plinth]

Well I’m assuming u looking at erasing strike vk, some people say it’s useless without worldsplitter (85 unique axe) but that not true at all. If u wanna level up as vk erasing u just need couple different nodes then the end game guides on maxroll and it deletes everything and looks cool

[worthy pine]

havoc runes are insane

[serene vigil]

Thanks! I'm just coming back, only played the game before seasons released I think, just looked for whatever build looked cool to play (previously I was running Falcon, wanted to try something else)

[radiant vortex]

well, there went all my gold, not even enough space <_<

[rain turtle]

Thanks you

[wheat light]

ok time for bed, I used a glyph of envy when I meant to use despair

rip 3mil gold

[pearl geyser]

oh no

[peak scroll]

Big oops

[gusty plinth]

There’s a YouTuber that posted pretty nice way to level up as erasing strike, if u type erasing strike vk Uber abberoth he should pop up and one of his recent videos has a link in description how to easily level up as erasing

[lone flicker]

lmao how they release erasing strike in this state

[vale ravine]

it's almost like it's in the name lol

[pearl geyser]

it does erase stuff

still melee tho (sorta)

[lone flicker]

you guys have a good point

[fierce harness]

15 or so kills, only 2 2LP items 😦

[wheat light]

Lol I have like 20+ kills and zero 2lp

Only 1 shitty nihlis too

[outer kelp]

What other items can resistances while channeling roll on? Just realized it's really all and not just elementel.

[gleaming rock]

better late than never, just beat campaign

[outer kelp]

nvm, figured out how to find affixes in LE tools.

[peak scroll]

Just relic mod right

[outer kelp]

yea, relic only =/

[peak scroll]

One timelines blessing is all res too if you're lacking

[wheat light]

Basically mandatory

[outer kelp]

I'm actually rerolling it rn 😆 I just hate being poisoned and no enemies to leech off of and just die.

[vestal mirage]

Was in a 300 corr echo earlier and I was unlucky enough to get 15 stacks of poison as the mobs died

Spammed my pots and ran to try and find mobs only to die

Gg

[peak scroll]

Belt mod to remove ailment 🙂

[vestal mirage]

Op

Tbh forgot that was a thing. Might have to look into it tomorrow

[peak scroll]

I had one earlier and tried to remove a mod to slam into item and it ofc took to t7 ailment gg

[vestal mirage]

😭

[outer kelp]

Oh that includes dots?

[peak scroll]

The belt mod for remove ailment on potion use yes

[outer kelp]

Cool, thanks!

[dusky spruce]

wats the biggest scaler for judgement build?

[frigid hatch]

Any thoughts on warpath vs multistrike vs vengeance for triggering forge strike?

[tardy mirage]

multistrike can summon 4 at a time ... vengence will make you tankier but slower ... and warpath is 1 button build but horrible summon rate

[scenic hawk]

I cant find a single armor piece with +# erasing strike skill points, and im about to be at aborath this is crazy, is there a way to focus farm a chestplace with that mod?

[gusty plinth]

Have u tried sentinel weaver echo spam ?

[peak scroll]

Sure it's not filtered out somehow?

[tardy mirage]

stick to multistrike ... its the only way to guaruntee you can summon them at a reasonable rate

[peak scroll]

There is node near top of tree to make mages drop more +skill items

[scenic hawk]

tbh forgot those existed just been spamming these

[scenic hawk]

just checked all the trees in sentinel and no +skill nodes

[peak scroll]

I meant in the Weaver Tree there is a node to make them a bit more common from exiled mages. It's at the very top iirc

[fierce harness]

So, are you supposed to be able to constantly attack with erasing strike? I can't quite sustain it with 2 points in time loop, even at 1100 mana. With just 1 point in time loop I can sustain it forever though. I'm moving while attacking (holding w for example) so that devouring orbs proc. Anything else I could be missing?

Really want to be able to put that second point in time loop

[scenic hawk]

thank you, gonna spec that in

[radiant vortex]

okay all echos but Rune Prison found and done <_<

Why isn't that one droppin

[fierce harness]

Now to find a 2LP world splitter

Wish me luck boys

[peak scroll]

Ggs

[fierce harness]

Even had enough forging potential at the end to rune of creating it, so I have 2 shots at it

So 53% chance of success

[vestal mirage]

Damn nice. Gl

I've only found 1 rune of creation so far and I'm level 98

[frigid hatch]

Ah. All the people highest on the ladder seem to be using warpath for whatever reason

[fierce harness]

You can get them easily from prophecies

[vestal mirage]

Til

[peak scroll]

0 here and I'm 96. Going to do some rune farming tomorrow tho for havocs

[vestal mirage]

Not a bad idea. Might do the same

Ill be maxing cof tomorrow 🙂

[fierce harness]

You rarely need to use runes of creation anyway, so at some point put in a rune lens, slap in a couple prophecies and it'll give you enough not to worry about for a while lol

[worldly saffron]

worth the switch to Rahyeh shield ? ( judgement paladin )

reduces 78 to 61% block chance, but 32k to 38k DPS, + the extra judgement point which is nice

[olive fern]

Didn't realise they were that rare and used my only one on an okayish ring at lvl 65 or so 😂 haven't seen another one yet...

[modest root]

judgement or warpath?

[scenic gyro]

the moment you realize you have been running around with red rings without 180 attributes for the past 100h

fcking kill me

[heavy topaz]

About to run temp sanctum for this guy. Should I put 90% inc void damage or 100 life? I'm warpath

[knotty harbor]

if I want to use divine bolt as main damage source, would you recommend direct cast of hh, melee hit or the idol as the source of divine bolt?

[fierce harness]

Generally you're short on survivability more often than short on damage, so I'd go with life. But if you feel like you're immortal but taking too long to kill stuff, go for damage

[heavy topaz]

Life it is. Thanks!

[modest root]

Which is better? Judgement Paladin or Warpath Void?

[heavy topaz]

Spin2Win

[ornate sentinel]

Does anyone know if fissures from smite stacks?

[fierce harness]

What corruption would you guys go up to to try and farm 2lp World Splitters?

Actually dumb question, answer is probably "as high as you can go" lol

[pearl geyser]

its actually "as as you can go while going fast"

[fierce harness]

Fair, but part of the strat will be spamming a million of the harbinger fight woven echo, so 🤷

[radiant vortex]

I believe the chance caps out

yeah

drop chance that is, so whatever required minimum for that is

[chilly peak]

U can spam Abberoth too

[radiant vortex]

at that point cos you got "infinite" tries I think fastest kills corruption is your "best" bet

[fierce harness]

Yup, just spent my 20 eyes to get 7 world splitters, not too bad, but only 1 even had lp lol

unfort, but that's how farming goes

[chilly peak]

Mah, i snipe only 1lp for melee void damage and i will see if i get better

[radiant vortex]

there is that nemesis tower echo as well

to spam feed your splitters into

[outer kelp]

What could be a fun build with this?

[fierce harness]

Yeah, plan is every 1LP goes into the spinner to see if it rolls up to 2LP, every 0LP goes into nemesis to either hit 2 mods and divine my 2LP, hit 2LP, or just die lol

[radiant vortex]

takin this makes that place also just spam feed you weapons

[radiant vortex]

@polar spire did a funny lookin vengeance spammer

blade assault and riposte are both melee attacks which can trigger the magma shards

so you vengeance they riposte you, both trigger blade assaults (which are ranged but count as melee btw) and suddenly there's shards everywhere

[outer kelp]

That sounds really wacky cool.

[tight sage]

Man Judgement Paladin is hella OP and fun 😄 I just realized I have 0 deaths at level 92. Should've started in Hardcore I guess. Definitely wasn't aiming to be deathless. It just... happens with this build

[radiant vortex]

everytime pearls drops I think to myself, maybe I should just let nihilis go...

then I'm reminded of my giga rolls :D

[vale ravine]

hmm. uber abby flail one tapped me from 5300 HP and 60 endurance lol
i guess more farming is in order

[radiant vortex]

... you mean the basic attack? <_<

[vale ravine]

the 4 quick strikes in different quadrants

[chilly peak]

oof, that was a big damage

[radiant vortex]

huh, I could tank that

[vale ravine]

damage was more than fine tho just need to survive. def using my 3 LP orian seal now in the second ring slot

[radiant vortex]

I mostly died whenever he's movin around and I gotta chase to be able to vengeance again >_>

Orians is freaking busted man, it's more ehp than red ring

[vale ravine]

ye if i get a good roll can prob go up to 8500-9k armor, endurance capped and 5600 HP with it, plus the DR on demand

[gusty bronze]

whats the easiest way to boost HP? chest/helm? or where should i put +hp mods

[vale ravine]

if that doesnt do it I guess i actually need to play mechanics lol

[radiant vortex]

DR / ward / heal massively yeah

can set it up to return 6% of hp per symbol (so 30%) as ward and heal for 20% of max on activate

[vale ravine]

ye might be the play, throwing in some increased damage

[queen valley]

what boots should i run for judgement build?

[livid knot]

Hello guys I have a question with Void Knight build which is stronger for the high corruption 2k+, Erasing Strike or Warpath? Thanks in advance!

[cerulean sorrel]

okei?

[fluid sparrow]

Is there a secret to finding the woven echo with the exiled mages... or specific location? Been killing mages ... a lot, helped by the tree, but can't seem to see it drop, i saw someone say "oh i got 6+ already", means I am incredibly unlucky or?

[waxen nymph]

Is it not available in Masque's Shop ?

[fluid sparrow]

Not yet

rank 8, or I am looking over it

Think it is one of these two?

right side is the brink one for sure

[waxen nymph]

Oh I dont know, I am rank 5 ^^

[fluid sparrow]

they don't all become available

[waxen nymph]

In the shop ? Really ??

[fluid sparrow]

yeah cuz some are specific

like bottom one on the last column, without spoiling, is specific to something

Maybe next rank

next rank adds 2,, then 3... but I suspect them to be the last column only

unsure if someone else can show which one it is I am missing? which position 😛

[fierce harness]

Humm, if havoc manages to swap T7 and T6 around, is this better than t7 void + t5 attack speed?

I feel like T6 crit has to be better than T5 speed

[outer kelp]

how much mana do I need before I can switch to spamming erasing strike?

[vernal frigate]

like 600 ish to feel OK

its pretty easy because the axe itself give slike +50% mana

[left yacht]

any tree to follow ?

[outer kelp]

Thanks. I'm already at 470 so jsut the axe then

[vernal frigate]

yeah easy as then

biiiiiig

[vale ravine]

phat

[waxen nymph]

For 1 echo I think its around 500

[terse burrow]

ah.. never gets old

[boreal bridge]

shopping day 😄

[ebon patrol]

I think I might swap to shield throw FG soon, just so I don't have to keep trying to buy gear for extremely popular builds like the paladin and VK setups

[boreal bridge]

embrace the capt america

[ebon patrol]

it's a shame that FG still kinda feels like he lacks identity compared to the other 2. I really wish the devs just went all in on the minion aspect tbh

[terse burrow]

b-b.... buying gear?

CoF is love
CoF is life

[ebon patrol]

disgusting. imagine having to go and find your gear yourself from...ugh...dedicated drop enemies

like some sort of peasant

no I need to be able to immidiately complete my gear setup within 5 mins of swapping to a build

thank you

[terse burrow]

"Water? you mean like froma toilet?"

[heavy topaz]

Ya tbh no point in playing trading in this game CoF is so good

[radiant vortex]

thats neat

[ebon patrol]

gross

[acoustic sapphire]

target farming a item and it saying 1/700 drop chance isnt "so good" cof should be buffed and easier to obtain best items

[terse burrow]

when slamming chest armor, it doesnt have to be for my class, right?

[lofty creek]

CoF will never, ever match trade

you cannot have a system match the drops of 10s of thousands of players without either nerfing THEM to the ground, or buffing CoF drop rates to the order of thousands of percent

both of which are stupid

[lofty creek]

do not play ST FG unless you have a good Sigeon's and at least half a dozen of the weaver flat reflect idols

it will feel dogshit otherwise

[acoustic sapphire]

cof should get buffed

[lofty creek]

git gud tbh

[acoustic sapphire]

1/700 drop is cooked

on a targeted item lol

[lofty creek]

clearly someone has never played ARPGs before

🤷‍♂️

[acoustic sapphire]

no skill

[upbeat pagoda]

Any of you cutie sentinels doing erasing strike

[boreal bridge]

true, I feel Forge strike should get 100% Forge Weap summon, and reduce % if want more summons per Forge Strike or smth like that

[untold shadow]

hello, does smite trigger healing hands?

[umbral pagoda]

Judgement Aura Paladin or Bleed Hammerdin Paladin which is better at endgame ?

[lofty creek]

yeah there's a node for it

[untold shadow]

do you know what it is called?

[raven jackal]

Forge guard did get changes to the fire slam attack

However it seems that the other two are just way more popular

Void knight and pally that is

I am really quite surprised tho that judgement build was popular at all considering its clunky mana gain

having to attack with a different skill to generate mana to then attack with judgement more does feel really off

[rigid pawn]

for endgame would you guys recommend paladin or VK?

[scenic hawk]

what build

[boreal bridge]

imo just play wat looks fun to u

[rigid pawn]

No a build in particular, just a general question

[scenic hawk]

whichever looks cooler then

[rigid pawn]

Ive been enjoying the judgement with healing hands build but I wonder if its any good later on

[scenic hawk]

VK ES is highly dependant on getting end end game gear so it doesnt feel as good as pala early, especially until you get void well

but after you screen wipe with one button

so thats cool

[boreal bridge]

has anyone meme'd [Forgemaster Might] passive? 2H + Shield gaming lool

[raven jackal]

It really doesnt seem that popular

Out of the other classes, forge guard is nowhere near as played

[lofty creek]

FG is more than viable endgame

I'm at 500c+ rn

[boreal bridge]

think the 20% less is quite a big hit to dmg

[lofty creek]

deleted Aberroth a few times (normal)

[lofty creek]

it's not, I use it

[boreal bridge]

ooh?

[primal socket]

Anyone know if the haste change on that talent works? I feel like haste still gives me movementspeed

[lofty creek]

FG has a higher maxhit vs oneshots than either Pally or VK

idk about sustain, I think Pally shenanigans win out

[raven jackal]

I think its more of a why. Judge pally is basicly an unkillable god of damage and void knight can erase the entire screen

[lofty creek]

Haste does not give you movespeed with it, the SHRINE however does

[lofty creek]

let's fight Aberroth anytime if you wanna see FG damage 🙂

[primal socket]

I use quicksilver coil and I get 30% movement speed when I hit enemies

And I use a 2h weapon and shield

[lofty creek]

huh, that's wild

[boreal bridge]

wat weap are u using

[lofty creek]

it clearly says it shouldn't work

[lofty creek]

Sierpin + Shield

[primal socket]

Yea, I wonder if the conversion doesn't happen, I don't get any block chance

[lofty creek]

personally I have like 76% movespeed so idc about Haste anymore

that + unspecced VR is enough to zoom

[primal socket]

I'm using quicksilver coil and the speed gloves 😄 121% with haste feels good

[lofty creek]

that's pretty solid yeah

I can't give up my gloves or my rings though

throwing build

[primal socket]

ah yea I'm still in my levelling setup, not sure where to go from here

playing multistrike forge strike, but I worry that a pure crit setup might lack damage later

[lofty creek]

but yeah if anyone thinks FG doesn't have damage / isn't tanky enough / doesn't farm quick enough, feel free to party up to see live demo, IGN is AnomanderRake

[raven jackal]

I wonder. Does it just not look cool

[primal socket]

I think it might be a class fantasy thing. I love big bulky characters with heavy weapons, and FG is the epitomy of that. 2H plus shield, launching giant fiery spears at enemies from the sky

But visually I agree, FG could get a little more oomph compared to VK or pally

By the way, any of you have a recommended 2h unique for multistrike forge strike? Currently I am using Orb Weavers fang with T7 attack speed, which is pretty fun, but I feel like it will fall off fairly hard eventually

[simple grotto]

Anyone have any tips for time rot devouring orb?

[restive sundial]

Why do people convert Smite damage from Fire to Electric, I am trying to look at some builds but I can not see any specific reason for them to do so

[raven jackal]

Cause this is the meta amulet for the build

[boreal bridge]

if I have enough of this does it become 100% lmao

[restive sundial]

I missed the Lightning part of the amulet, I am blind

[daring lion]

Yes actually

[left yacht]

anyone willing to help a new warpath enjoyer with his question ?

[boreal bridge]

altho I think [Sigeon's Reprisal] with reflect weaver will ultimately be the better choice right

[wind seal]

wtf

1lp ?

[lofty creek]

Fair warning: you need a LOT of those idols for the skill to feel good

ST's lack of shotgun compared to the other throwing skills is really dogshit

Bounce from allies + Ring of Shields only does so much

[lofty creek]

Nemesis egg'd

[boreal bridge]

I'm not in emp mono yet, so slowly building up my weaver idol collection atm hahah

[lofty creek]

No shot it's natty drop

[lofty creek]

Yeah fair

Just saying from personal experience, tried it briefly

[wind seal]

chest after echo completion

[lofty creek]

God damn bro

Buy a lottery ticket

Gods smiling upon you today

[boreal bridge]

altho my build is really coming together, still need some adjustments

still trying out using [Volatile Reversal] for it's Frenzy + Traversal to see how it plays

Frenzy isn't that great of a buff, huh?

[primal socket]

I mean attack speed buffs are attack speed buffs, frenzy's problem tends to be uptime

[boreal bridge]

yeah tru

[gloomy orchid]

how to improve tankiness? i keep dying from the 10 harbringer weaver map at 400c

[valid ridge]

These two items together are absolutely strong and insane with multistrike who proc healing hand in melee

The number of smite per second is ridiculous

You need this nod from multistrike

[steel solstice]

Hi there, Do we have a Lightning build?
One is is able to clear all content, i´m kinda bugged down with the hammerdin and i´m not really a Void knight guy

[primal socket]

Is mantle of the pale ox just flat out superior to titan heart as long as you have at least ring of shields?

Not sure how to rate the DR from titan heart against the damage "passing on"

[broken flame]

vs

is it time to get off the sceptre?

[left yacht]

i feel kinda lost about what to do , only lvl 74 , not sure what to focus on that early

[cerulean sorrel]

What’s the max level?

[modest root]

which would be better for judgement paladin?

[broken flame]

the >more damage on the sceptre is good ive been using it for a long while now

[modest root]

oke oke so the rare one right? thank you

[broken flame]

the fire starter torch

the one with >more damage on it

[fair delta]

Guys whats better for endgame, judgement Paladin or void knight? Just got into Monoliths and i wanna Focus on one now

[crude pawn]

guys what u think does more dmg in the endgame? shield throw bleed or raw dmg shield throw with going crit?

[waxen nymph]

Crit

[modest root]

oohh okok thank you

[crude pawn]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QW5eVE4o this is my shield throw pala right now. i know bad gear ^^ and a mix of crit and bleed ^^ what should i rpelace hammer throw with? some move skill? or is there anything for dmg?

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 73

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (10) / Paladin (55)

General:

▸ Health: 1,349, Regen: 57.32/s
▸ Mana: 130.87, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 37 Str / 9 Dex / 12 Int / 10 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 175% / 128% / 108% / 34% / 47% / 44% / 44%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 59%, Threshold: 669
▸ Dodge Chance: 3% (75)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 43% (2,014)
▸ Block Chance: 65%, Mitigation: 43% (1,164)

Used skills:

Shield Throw / Hammer Throw / Smite / Symbols of Hope / Holy Aura

[waxen nymph]

Manifest Armor for the bounce ?

[fresh heart]

does anyone know if bastion of honour works with phalanx?

[lofty creek]

that fight is genuinely harder than Aberroth

idk why, but their HP and damage is overtuned to hell and back

[crude pawn]

uhm what bounce?

[waxen nymph]

Ricochet

[waxen nymph]

Doesnt work

[lofty creek]

I tried it earlier and ate this damage through 100% block chance and 55% effectiveness on top of Titan Heart and general FG DR

[fresh heart]

😔

[waxen nymph]

Its conditionnal Block

[lofty creek]

oh and Frailty on the mob too obv

[misty gull]

This is probably a dumb question, but I have a couple of Tu'Rani's and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth using since it converts to lightning, but I'm already using the lightning conversion node in the Javelin tree? Is Tu'Rani's mostly used for the lightning pen in that case?

[crude pawn]

cant find any ricochet in manifest armor tree

[lofty creek]

if you're building for Electrify, the Weaver sword outshines it by a mile and a half

while allowing you to use a shield

[waxen nymph]

This allow to ricochet on your allies

[steep cloud]

(just found this while searching about it) They I think did not... it seems to always give a flat 7 points of threshold, tho it seems/sounds like it used to give none at all soo they tried at least lol

[waxen nymph]

Is it that good ?

[lofty creek]

have you seen Deias' build

[primal zodiac]

would anyone be able to help me refine this build? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BGa6yEjA

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 69

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (31) / Forge Guard (51)

General:

▸ Health: 1,564, Regen: 22.71/s
▸ Mana: 108.85, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 46 Str / 0 Dex / 5 Int / 12 Att / 36 Vit
▸ Resistances: 162% / 94% / 126% / 91% / 94% / 127% / 98%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 313
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (21)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 52% (2,711)
▸ Block Chance: 27%, Mitigation: 45% (1,253)

Used skills:

Warpath / Rive / Forge Strike / Manifest Armor / Shield Rush

[lofty creek]

it's absolutely insane

[waxen nymph]

No,

[sick halo]

which gloves? both gets me to 100% crit, vk warpath

[lofty creek]

@half reef build planner pl0x, demonstrate to Vlad the power of Electrify

[misty gull]

How do you use javelin with the weaver sword? I'm not sure i understand

I thought javelin required spears

[waxen nymph]

Dont need a spear

[misty gull]

omg

it's "if you have a spear equipped"

i misunderstood this entire time

that opens a lot of possibility oooo

[waxen nymph]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BEklkLjA

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (85)

General:

▸ Health: 3,648, Regen: 368.44/s
▸ Mana: 334.76, Regen: 13.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 24%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 20 Str / 12 Dex / 12 Int / 62 Att / 25 Vit
▸ Resistances: 113% / 129% / 119% / 99% / 95% / 82% / 116%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 1,298
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (48)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 78% (10,807)
▸ Block Chance: 97%, Mitigation: 59% (2,942)

Used skills:

Javelin / Holy Aura / Symbols of Hope / Lunge / Smite

[waxen nymph]

This one ?

[crude pawn]

hmm interesting lets see if i can get enough points to spec it. thats my shiel dthrow tree with 4 points missing cause i respecced them out of fleet of feet for the haste. anythign u see i could also respec?

[lofty creek]

yeah

that one

it kinda stomps shit

[waxen nymph]

Are you playing it ?

Did she say how much Corruption she is doing ?

[lofty creek]

she is, I duod with her for quite a few hours, we did Aberroth together

uhh idk what corruption she's at now, I'm at 550 so she must be 700+ I think? she's a few hours ahead at any rate

[waxen nymph]

I do look juicy

[lofty creek]

our duo Aberroth kill was idiotically easy

[waxen nymph]

What I am taking from this planner is I need those freaking boots if I want to play jav

[lofty creek]

yeah if you're taking Divine Fury then mana management would be a pain without those boots

my build on the other hand doesn't need that at all

[waxen nymph]

What are you playin ?

[lofty creek]

I can just throw Javelins all ady

I'm playing this: https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olZeLROQ

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 95

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (68) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 3,132, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 126.98, Regen: 8.8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 16%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 38 Str / 40 Dex / 8 Int / 10 Att / 15 Vit
▸ Resistances: 153% / 62% / 113% / 90% / 96% / 53% / 80%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 49%, Threshold: 910
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (160)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 58% (4,016)
▸ Block Chance: 91%, Mitigation: 49% (1,910)

Used skills:

Javelin / Shield Throw / Ring Of Shields / Symbols of Hope / Smite

[waxen nymph]

I was planning on this but changed my mind last second

Should not have

[lofty creek]

farming up the Sierpin was agony

but after that it's been smooth sailing

[waxen nymph]

Oo

You went Lightning ? Why ?

[scenic hawk]

erasing strike da goat

[rigid pawn]

javelin seems like a strong skill to clear maps

🤔

[waxen nymph]

It also a nice Single Target with Siege Barrage

[primal zodiac]

is this build worth continuing or should I swap over to a more meta pick?

[waxen nymph]

Why Lightning ?

[lofty creek]

slightly higher scaling than phys eventually

because there is a flat lightning damage added to Javelin affix for helm

which I'm now trying to get

• it makes shock a damage multiplier

[lofty creek]

single target = 1500% added damage effectiveness kekw

[waxen nymph]

But Armor Shred is better, and Colossus gives a lot of Pen too

[lofty creek]

I am using those too

naturally, hit based build

I keep throwing ST off CD on bosses and champs

Colossus, Frenzy

[waxen nymph]

But rn you are kinda hurting yourself by converting

[lofty creek]

what makes you say that?

[waxen nymph]

You dont have the Flat on your gear

[crude pawn]

@waxen nymph can u recommend a weapon for crit shield throw? i was thinking maybe monument of protection?

[waxen nymph]

So you dont benefit (for most of your dmg) from the pen from Colossus and Sierpin

[lofty creek]

wha

[waxen nymph]

Also you have a Phys Sierpin

[lofty creek]

my rings, gloves, belt?

[lofty creek]

the Sierpin's damage is converted from the node, as is its shred

I tested with and without the conversion node on dummy, damage went up

[waxen nymph]

What ?

[lofty creek]

yes

[waxen nymph]

Its not shred its pen

Phys Pen

It doesnt get converted

[lofty creek]

oh true

hmmm

[waxen nymph]

Phys Shred

[lofty creek]

but damage number still go up

for sure, I tested it on the dummy

[waxen nymph]

Also the Flat stays Phys

The Flat Phys I should say

[lofty creek]

🤔

I'm gonna test on the dummy again

but I'm dead certain there's a gain

[waxen nymph]

Maybe I am wrong and this is enough to warrant the swap

But then I would remove Colossus

[slate owl]

are you more likely to get a leonine greathelm in a specific timeline (because of the type of mobs spawning there) or is it completely random ?

can't see the info on lastepochtools

[waxen nymph]

Random

[radiant vortex]

5 points off

[slate owl]

timeline choice only matter for the type of unique echo rewards then, and blessings ? Trying to decide which one I should focus first to raise corruption

[oak kite]

ye, and harbinger loot too

[lofty creek]

still like it for the armor

[waxen nymph]

Sorry I kind a missed you

[simple grotto]

Anyone have any thoughts on dorb time rot vk?

[waxen nymph]

True

@primal zodiac What are we looking at ?

Ignite Rive ?

[primal zodiac]

ignite warpath

rive is just for singletarget (and generate mana if needed)

[waxen nymph]

oO

Why ForgeStrike ?

[primal zodiac]

summong forged weapons

[waxen nymph]

Why Manifest Armor ?

[primal zodiac]

more ignite

[waxen nymph]

Are you doing a Minion Build ?

Or a You build ?

[primal zodiac]

mostly me

the minions help to add ignite stacks

[lofty creek]

can we upload short vids in this channel

[waxen nymph]

Then I would drop the Minion all together

[waxen nymph]

Probably

[primal zodiac]

interesting

what skills would I use instead?

[waxen nymph]

Symbol of Hope is great

[primal zodiac]

oh dang, so it is

i was thinking of changing to a 1h axe instead, since that can get meteor champion affix

[waxen nymph]

Also if you are going Ignite I feel like Rive would be a better choice

[primal zodiac]

yeah but spin to win with warpath

[waxen nymph]

Thats great but hard to get

[waxen nymph]

Yeah I know ^^

Rive is great because
1 it doubles the stats
2 It can trigger Healing Hands for an extra Melee Hit

[fluid sparrow]

Grmbl, Soulfire Siege Golems don't count for prophecy 😦 - even if there is no condition

Why did I pick Siege Golem and Immortal eye even... horrible to find 😄

[lofty creek]

ok time to test phys vs lightning again, this time I record it

[waxen nymph]

Also this doesnt affect your Ignites

[severe narwhal]

how does taking hammer nova and orbiting hammers work again?

[waxen nymph]

Neither does this

[primal zodiac]

i see

[waxen nymph]

99% Sure nova wins

[lofty creek]

idk about orbit but spiral > nova just because of shotgun

[waxen nymph]

This is a great tanky node

[primal zodiac]

yeah i was planning on taking that soon

[half reef]

Please grab it from Spheare, I just dragged my ass up two flights of stairs with a cane

[severe narwhal]

oh even if it did spiral you wouldnt get the double hammers

[waxen nymph]

I believe they are talking about if you specced the 2

[lofty creek]

oh ok

[lofty creek]

ripperoni, it's ok, Vlad has it

[simple grotto]

Does nobody here play devouring orb time rot?

[lofty creek]

just tell me what corruption you at rn

[waxen nymph]

Not played

[simple grotto]

I've been trying to see how others feel about it so far and haven't gotten a single response all day lol

[radiant vortex]

now I need some dps...

[lofty creek]

I think Zizaran is playing it?

could ask in his stream or Discord

[simple grotto]

He didn't reply when I asked and rightfully so, he gets bombarded with questions

[half reef]

Just slightly under 500, I could have pushed another 200+ today easily but I got distracted a lot and friends invited me and Dream to some B4B.

[lofty creek]

oh ok

thought you were ahead of me

[half reef]

I was until I started gambling constantly

[waxen nymph]

You can ask your question here anyway

[half reef]

I'm in Weaver hell

[lofty creek]

clip 1: lightning

[waxen nymph]

We might have the answer

@simple grotto

[half reef]

I have decided to take the L and just try to get to rank 12 so I can buy a relic because EHG clearly has it out for me lmao

[lofty creek]

clip 2: without the conversion node alone

the difference is pretty clear Vlad

[waxen nymph]

Yep Phys Better 😏

[lofty creek]

wha

it's not though?

I'm hitting 200k+ crits with lightning, 190k with phys

[waxen nymph]

😏

Phys Better

[lofty creek]

kekw

[waxen nymph]

[lofty creek]

now I need to run a mono to get that point back

lamo

[steel solstice]

Hey everyone! A while back there was a Lightning Caster Paladin build making the rounds, and it was honestly pretty awesome. I’ve never been a big fan of melee builds, and that lightning aesthetic really clicked with me. Just wondering—has anyone been experimenting with something similar this season?

[waxen nymph]

[lofty creek]

Dr3ad has a video about smite caster paladin

it's pretty absurdly strong

[waxen nymph]

Go check Dread on yt
He made a Smite Dot Paladin

[half reef]

Fissure Smite is kinda nuts rn yea

Anyway imma try to sleep for a bit. Breaking bones take a lot outta ya.

[waxen nymph]

The void one is sooo prutty

Its purple and make little wave

[lofty creek]

BRO

[keen jewel]

how does the stat, armor mitigation also applies to damage over time work?

[tranquil gazelle]

my guess is that armor is a % reduction of hits, the game applies a fraction of that to each DoT instance ?

[keen jewel]

so it applies the stat to my damage over time?

[waxen nymph]

No, to the Dmg over Time you recieve

[lofty creek]

actually insane

[keen jewel]

ohhh, I see, thanks

[waxen nymph]

Jeez

[lofty creek]

best part, I creation'd the ring before using it so I have another for any other good ring I find

[waxen nymph]

For your 3lp Ocearon

[lofty creek]

kek

surely

surely right

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-happily-baby-cute-close-eyes-gif-20852145

Praying for you

[primal zodiac]

ok vlad I've played around a bit with your suggestions

how's this? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZremMjB

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 69

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Forge Guard (50) / Paladin (20)

General:

▸ Health: 1,587, Regen: 40.72/s
▸ Mana: 108.85, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 10%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 53 Str / 0 Dex / 5 Int / 12 Att / 39 Vit
▸ Resistances: 171% / 103% / 135% / 91% / 94% / 130% / 101%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 31%, Threshold: 467
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (21)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 56% (3,051)
▸ Block Chance: 39%, Mitigation: 51% (1,683)

Used skills:

Warpath / Rive / Forge Strike / Symbols of Hope / Shield Rush

[primal zodiac]

not sure what to replace forge strike with tho

[waxen nymph]

Ring of Shield for Tankiness

[echo rapids]

Hi, any build for newbie trying HC? or Judgement is the way

[upbeat pagoda]

how are rogues right now compared sents in terms of dps and survability

[radiant vortex]

better in every way

[crude pawn]

hmm this or some fancy exalted weapon for shield throw? since shield throw scales with block and block effect i think this could be good right?

[waxen nymph]

Yep, you can get %Crit, Crit Multi or %Dmg

[crude pawn]

so exalted weapon better?

[thick wave]

Im still sad the guide is so badly made that i just dont get how to scale that build, i switched to a pure void smite caster now

[waxen nymph]

I watched his vids (all 3 of them) and found it pretty clear

What did you get ?

[radiant vortex]

5m still to kill abby

[upbeat pagoda]

the rogues are better in every way? or you just joking

[waxen nymph]

You need Flat Spell Dmg, % Inc Dmg Lightning (Ele Dot is better) and Crit Multi for the new Pala Passives

[radiant vortex]

can tank everything tho >_> so I guess thats fine

[lofty creek]

Abby does not take 5m on Sentinels omegalol

Maybe if you're playing some unoptimized build sure

Or if you're severely undergeared

[waxen nymph]

Dont say that

[upbeat pagoda]

uber abby baby

[lofty creek]

Edited

[thick wave]

He is very VERY unclear about what uniques to strive for and what stats to get on gear. His lootfilter also doesnt help with how unclear it is made for whats good and bad

[green jetty]

so i pushed the black sun to 250 corruption farming my axe, now ive gone to next zone my first orobyss is gonna add too much corruption to the timeline, is there a way to add a bit less?

[radiant vortex]

<_< I'm doing my own FG phalanx electrify stackin memes over here having a blast

If abby stopped chargin around and hit me instead it'd go a lot faster

[waxen nymph]

Did you watch the last video ?

[thick wave]

Yes

[waxen nymph]

Devotion is must have
The rest is up to you

Sure Dread isnt going to hold your hand until your character is finished

[thick wave]

Im very new to the game, just had one character in 1.0. And for that, i am already doing "better" on a maxroll guide just by virtue of getting what i need

[waxen nymph]

Not his style of content

[radiant vortex]

what if I become a patron

will he hold my hand then

[waxen nymph]

Very unlikely

[thick wave]

Yeah, but the guide is just .... sloppy? At least explain clearly what stats you want etc. and not just yap about 1 unique and how good the build is

[radiant vortex]

oh julra droppin exalted rings today

[oak kite]

is this hot for judgement aura

[radiant vortex]

it's quite hot

[dusky spruce]

any1 running judgement?

[waxen nymph]

So I am re watching the lastest Smite Video from Dread
He is going over every piece of gear why he has it

[dusky spruce]

tryna figure out what to 2lp on the flame belt from flame dungeon

double hp?

[radiant vortex]

hybrid health prio I'd guess

[harsh nova]

can go with ailment cleanse other than hp

[oak kite]

🤢 non aura judgement?

[harsh nova]

gonna actually have to farm these this patch it looks like

1/390 fml

[oak kite]

why tho

wat build even uses those

[harsh nova]

mine will

:))

crit void smite

[radiant vortex]

man should I swap to ignite only or just go hit based instead... <_<

If I stacked throne of ambition <_<

[analog pasture]

well.. whats the best way to farm wrongwrap ? 😐 did already 40 plus prophecies and forced stolen lance timeline without any lucky lol

[radiant vortex]

keep doing that until one drops then imprint it on all slots 4 weaver

[harsh nova]

imprinting is the best thing in this game

i got 5 omnividence from imprinting yesterday alone

but you need ur first

[radiant vortex]

Ppl kept dupin for MG so EHG decided to make it permanent

[tall warren]

Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone knows why the Warpath tooltip damage doesn't increase beyond ~3 ticks when using Warrior's Fury (1 point)? Shouldn't we be gaining +20% damage each second?

[harsh nova]

rare world uniques like red ring were impossible for mg to get, but trivial for cof so glad they did something

[primal onyx]

I wanted to play FG shield throw just to realize pally shield throw might just be better

[willow smelt]

Let me get this straight, if I use Judgement's Righteous Decree talent, the Smites that are cast do not also cast Fissure correct?

[waxen nymph]

Fissure requires a Direct cast from Smite

[willow smelt]

That's insanely lame...

[waxen nymph]

🤷 I like it
Gives finally a reason to self cast Smite

[junior wren]

my reason to self-cast smite was ward gen from procced healing hands 🤔

[willow smelt]

I think there should be a unique that enables Auto-Casted Smite to proc it's potential procs.

Then we could get really stupid with it and have Judgement auto-bombing builds.

Judgement casts 4 Smites, which each cast 4 Fissures and 4 Healing Hands

[junior wren]

but you need to use judgement, so it wouldnt be auto anything

[lofty creek]

Hit based Javelin is pretty absurd

Nailed Aberroth with it even before getting a bunch of crazy upgrades

[willow smelt]

I mean, you just hold the Judgement key and walk around. It's pretty automatic from there lol

[radiant vortex]

I'm on my own FG Phalanx stuff and I kind of don't wanna swap off it too much

[lofty creek]

Incredibly easy to crit cap

[lofty creek]

I am also on Jav Phalanx FG

Except I'm crit

[radiant vortex]

would not mind doing hit based instead but the whole point is just stand there tankin everything and auto siege barrage clears

[lofty creek]

You're electrify

Same

Block cap, Titan Heart, armor shenanigans, armor to dot, Majasa shield

[radiant vortex]

Hmmm... I guess I'll slam one of the 3lps I have with hit mods instead of dot and see how it goes

[lofty creek]

[radiant vortex]

I'm on Null and weaver shield

150% block chance atm, kind of wasted more multiplier for vengeance

[lofty creek]

This is my damage on the dummy

[radiant vortex]

but wanting to be hit I don't want majasas random stun while clearin nor do I need the less dot mod on it

[waxen nymph]

Anyone tried Null Portent + Foot of the Mountain + Close Call ? ^^

[lofty creek]

I want to use Null Portent but I genuinely think it'll be a net downgrade for me vs my 75% hp Titan Heart

Sadeg