🔱┃sentinel

[rapid pecan]

depends for what

for direct, no

[elfin warren]

So Bleeding Heart can be used without downside?

[rapid pecan]

you still get the bleed from heart im pretty sure

as it says cast and not direct cast

[radiant vortex]

no righteous firebrand? 🤔

[eager carbon]

unless the skill has a Spell tag, it won't trigger bleeding heart

[elfin warren]

That's the question, is it counted as a cast when I trigger it through other means?

[rapid pecan]

it says cast

for example for MS

[elfin warren]

hm true

[rapid pecan]

so you would get the bleed

[waxen nymph]

Nah you wont

[eager carbon]

bruh?

its only direct spell casts

[waxen nymph]

You are using Multistrike

[eager carbon]

not trigger effects

[rapid pecan]

are you sure ? im pretty sure i got bleed stacks before when i triggered

[eager carbon]

Multistrike *triggers * smites, the wording is different

You don't *directly * cast has them via the multistrike

[fluid sparrow]

Afaik you can test it in offline mode at the moment? 😛

[rapid pecan]

if i had characters in offline sure 😄

[elfin warren]

Okay perfect. That's what I thought

[hollow folio]

does ravaging aura also scale with increased damage to void cleave, like other DoTs do...? since it is no ailment.

[eager carbon]

no

[waxen nymph]

Its a subskill of VC ,so it does everything VC does
Get 4% Inc Dmg per Str and Vit

[eager carbon]

huh?

[waxen nymph]

That how subskill work

[covert phoenix]

except the more damage to X (timerot or slowed)

timerot was melee damage anyway iirc

[waxen nymph]

Except for More Dmg that depend on a condition of the target indeed

[covert phoenix]

but the more damage to slowed is missed

[hollow folio]

so...

will increased the damage of aura?

[covert phoenix]

that work

[waxen nymph]

Yes

Or should work, if not bugged 💀

[hollow folio]

hehe

[radiant vortex]

also considered grasp of the blood mage over judgement gloves?

[eager carbon]

https://streamable.com/uhoalg

[polar spire]

yea, but crit isnt needed

[radiant vortex]

--> using meme idol for guaranteed
--> stackin to 600+

[polar spire]

:3

[radiant vortex]

I stole some of your passive stuff, tho again I ask why no righteous firebrand?

[polar spire]

i mean could put it in i guess, just gotta figure out what to take out

[radiant vortex]

~75% pen with your healing effectiveness

[polar spire]

i didnt even look at it, because i just remembered it was melee attack speed lol

[sullen jolt]

can you play OFFLINE - I cannot.

[radiant vortex]

conviction is "only" 4% inc and 2% pen per

so I guess from there?

[dire prairie]

start in offline mode

[polar spire]

yea right click on game in steam, properties, and then

[sullen jolt]

thank you!

[sullen jolt]

thanbk you guys!

[polar spire]

see when everyone said "go offline" i thought they meant this, which didnt work lmfao

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-six-going-dark-cod-sergeant-mw-modern-warfare-gif-14985183

[polar spire]

hmmmmmm

maybe i should put more health on

[radiant vortex]

[radiant vortex]

cast on death build

run into boss get hit die cos no hp watch them bleed to death over a year

[polar spire]

i mean, its got 25k+ ehp across the board.... well against hits at least

i'll just slot bleeding heart in, just in case

[fossil musk]

the truth behind that is just that u cant take any unique until good LP so ... xD

[polar spire]

i wonder how orian's sun seal works if your endurance threshold is 5x your max health

[radiant vortex]

i bet it doesn't

[radiant vortex]

we are talking about quite the endish setups on these planners tho <_<

[polar spire]

well we've got a little less than 8 hours till launch, i should stop jankcrafting, i'll do this all night

[radiant vortex]

wait you actually play the game and don't just jankcraft in it as well? <_<

dafuq kind of tryhard nonsense is this

[polar spire]

for every 20 jankcraft builds, i do make the occasional keeper i feel like playing

like my volcanus magma shards/divine bolts proc build i'll be playing

where i proc magma shards and divine bolts off vengeance, riposte, and iron blade

[radiant vortex]

yeah cos that's not at all jank

[polar spire]

i call it, "screen clutter to irritate the full group im playing with"

[radiant vortex]

great, funny, works.. but jank

[polar spire]

oh almost forgot counterattack retribution, that procs magma shards and divine bolts too

[radiant vortex]

I'm gonna have to roll lock start just to test if they actually fixed the fissure dot crashing instances

if they did there went my grp play ruiner

[polar spire]

i'll be playing with a druid and 2 necro's, so i give everyone and their minions 100% inc crit from symbols, and the druids sum sprigg gives everyone 8% flat crit

gonna be really lovely

[terse harness]

Where wrouk and guide 😟

[waxen nymph]

Dont forget Melee HH

[twilit valley]

You guys think a rive build can beat uberoth or better to go ES against uber

[polar spire]

out of ALL the possible minion builds gazzy could play, w h y

[stray plinth]

tankyboy

[terse harness]

To test new things

[polar spire]

of COURSE allie is doing autobomber again

[terse harness]

Her guide has so much text its confusing

[sullen jolt]

well, goodmorning, I am afraid I am back XD how didfficult will it be to get in trade or acqujire solo SOUL BASTION and MONUMENT OF PROTECTION shields?

[polar spire]

autobombers arent very smart, you need lots of text so they dont get lost

[terse harness]

🙃

[vivid adder]

in terms of clear, would you guys say time rot dev orb is better than bleed hammers? just checking other options besides judgment and hammers

[polar spire]

oh hell yea

[radiant vortex]

he loves AW the most

[polar spire]

god i would NOT want to stutter step hammers and its throw animation

[hollow folio]

that won't let me go... so you could also increase the damage of ravaging aura through melee stats (crit multi, etc.), since the aura scales through the initial damage of void cleave? sounds quite over the top...

[vivid adder]

i did like 5 practice runs to act 7 this month but they all were hammers, but i guess i could just level as pala and then later respec VK tho

[sullen jolt]

as compared to shield bash FG - how tanky is ww VK? aside from leech I cannot see anything "tanky"

[polar spire]

lightning electrify smite/electrify healing hand i did a test run with and was just obliterating content

[vivid adder]

idk how good this build is for hcssf

[polar spire]

went into mono's at 30 and cleared till 45 in like 40 min then went back to campaign

[sullen jolt]

where does tankiness of wp vk come from?

[rapid pecan]

who has played VK a lot and give me an honest opinion in my build ?

[radiant vortex]

god damn I really wanted to add some shred armour but 95% healing effectiveness is just too good

[shell wedge]

Existing as vk, is tankiness

There is no need for anything but belief

[polar spire]

VK's are the best floor tanks

[sullen jolt]

floor tanks?

[polar spire]

if you know the ff14 dragoon floor tank meme, VK's are the same

[sullen jolt]

Im afraid I dont

[polar spire]

yea they tank the floor, because they're dead

[sullen jolt]

I am not a naticve spearker of English so there might be things I dont quite get .....

[polar spire]

dragoon has abilities tht make them jump into the sky, but then they're locked in place and can't move, so they get to sit in boss mechanics and get 1 tapped

[sullen jolt]

It means VK is not very tanky?

[polar spire]

yea vk isnt very tanky

if you arent playing hardcore, you're fine

if you have much more experience with the game, and can handle vk in hardcore, you're fine

[sullen jolt]

it took a while, didnt it 😦 need to study ENglish a lot more I guess

[twilit valley]

About to purchase the woven legend pack , looks nice

[sullen jolt]

do u think getting the shields - soul bastion and monumetn of protection will be difficult in trade? @polar spire

[polar spire]

i hope ingame shop gets lots of new items too, im sitting on like 1400 points

[polar spire]

have never played trade and only know things word of mouth from others, but im sure someone else here would know

[sullen jolt]

guys, anyone?

[rapid pecan]

sorry not a trade fan

[fossil musk]

sure tested offline tho and its impossible to play until u have % life lost per second

[errant needle]

Is bleed forge strike warpath a thing? I tried it before the downtime and got to the endgame but didn't have time to mono with it. Anyone tried it before?

[fossil musk]

otherwise divine bolts are not fired

[radiant vortex]

?

[fossil musk]

if u dont heal urself u dont throw divine bolts

[radiant vortex]

with what

[fossil musk]

healing hands

it means if u are full life it doesnt work

[radiant vortex]

well those are just supplamental / for more clear anyway

but that makes grasp of the blood mage even better then, can self dmg with those

[fossil musk]

oh u think so ? Im doing a main divine bolt build

[radiant vortex]

then you just gotta slap drain life stuff on

I'm talking about what I had cooked up

[fossil musk]

Do u have a planner of ur version ?

[polar spire]

ive just now realized that thanks to vengeance and counterattack retribution, im putting out more divine bolts than a HH divine bolts build

[sullen jolt]

these shields are supposedly day1 -2 trash nobody uses xd

[polar spire]

Melee HH with paladin passives dishes out 8 bolts, Spell HH with paladin passives dishes out 7, Vengeance paladin dishes out 3, but has 4 attacks that proc it, so its 12

[sullen jolt]

ok, so how owul;d you rank Bleed Paladin / hammers/ vs shield bash FG in terms of : 1. survivability, 2. clear speed 3. single tawrget dmg 4. noob friendliness

I am on the fence between the two

in fav of a pally - healing aura

[polar spire]

too tired to answer that, and waking up in 6 hours for launch, but good luck

[arctic tartan]

Electrocute Javelin Paladin not on the list?

[fossil musk]

but bro

[eager carbon]

bleed hammers is ez mode, easily playable from start

[fossil musk]

the important thing is not how much bolt u throw

its how much dmg they do

melee hh is shit for this

[arctic tartan]

From what I've seen so far that looks like it'd do pretty decent in all 4 categories

[eager carbon]

shield bash takes a bit of investment, something you probably won't have right on the get go

[polar spire]

are you running immolator's oblation for +40 flat?

[fossil musk]

idc about that its just that if u dont scale healing effectiveness

which give u 400 flat dmg

its garbage

[sullen jolt]

both capabe of doing some endgame though? jus y / n pls

[fossil musk]

and u cant do it as melee

[polar spire]

i have always hated hammer throw, so i know nothing on that

[hallow knoll]

Damn here I thought I was the only one that hated using it

Hammers are good though, they won't disappoint if you like the playstyle

[elfin warren]

Prayge that the servers wont crumble tonight.

[polar spire]

i read that they swapped to a new service provider for servers, and have a new guy completely dedicated to server stability

[unkempt void]

I think it would be tough to have no issues

There is a lot of people about to log in

[slim spire]

They said a lot of things also before 1.0 launch

Of course I'm praying for them

[polar spire]

that was on them for underestimating how many players streamers can bring in

i think this time they'll underestimate how many players absolutely hate the new poe2 league and are coming over

[slim spire]

"But the daily player count for LE is just a few thousand, how bad can it be?!"

[polar spire]

It doesnt help that that old scifi fps mmo Defiance, got the rights bought by a new studio and they're releasing the game on the 18th, so i kinda wanna play that too

[fossil musk]

did u like poe2 ?

[polar spire]

I got 2 80's on the new league, it was alright, i really enjoyed playing thorns

[dry pier]

really? I still got my boxed copy of it ha

[slim spire]

I highly enjoyed poe2 before they absolutely murdered my minions at endgame

[polar spire]

Yea a studio called Fawkes is bringing it back, and its the old defiance, not the 2050 one

Poe2 EA launch was fantastic, this new league not so much

[polar spire]

I only knew about it because i played Rift which had a collab with Defiance, im just happy to play a game that shutdown again

[dry pier]

yea, it was a fun game till there was nothing to do

[elfin warren]

Got a free PoE2 key due to my PoE1 spendings. It's still a long road till 1.0 but I absolutely hate the whole game philosophy rn. And they let PoE1 die.

[cursive compass]

Who is going forge guard

[elfin warren]

Removed PoE from my favourites in my Steam library after fun 3k hours sadge

[slim spire]

Me

[cursive compass]

Forge weapons?

[slim spire]

Yessir

[cursive compass]

I wanted to do them too

But VK void rive / vengeance has been cooked hard

VK gonna shine like the red sun

[slim spire]

Be strong

[cursive compass]

Big hard choice

Vengeance Can now echo and void damage

But gives 18% damage reduction

BIG

[slim spire]

Yes vengeance can also summon forged weapons now

[cursive compass]

Pog

[slim spire]

With all the dr goodness

[cursive compass]

Pog

Honestly

I am happy for the forge guard family too

With big ass block

Forge guard also have nice DR in tree

[slim spire]

Ikr

Logically just that 1 node (2h/shield) is so strong that ehg thought fg doesn't need anything else

That's why there's only 1 line in the patch for fg, and tons for others

[waxen nymph]

FG got big changes in the patch 1.1

[slim spire]

Shhh I'm puffing copium now

[radiant vortex]

oh sorry got into a deadlock match | very much wip / aspirational
~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7ZvV9gQ

[waxen nymph]

Btw twitch drops have started

[radiant vortex]

whos even streamin

[waxen nymph]

Dunno

Picked a random

Set it at 1%

[radiant vortex]

you can just mute the tab on your browser

wait are there different drops for subbin? <_<

[waxen nymph]

Purple Maelstrom

[radiant vortex]

Purchase 1 new recurring or gift subscription and claim the reward Corrupted Maelstrom

[waxen nymph]

Doesnt work with Prime

[radiant vortex]

don't have prime anyway

is there a showcase somewhere of what purple mael looks like

[waxen nymph]

Check AAron Arpg

He showcase a bunch of MTX

[radiant vortex]

that's a long time for the clearly best mtx for the most useless of skills

Watch for 6 hours and claim the reward Blue Rip Blood

[urban bay]

what are we rolling today? haven't played sentinel since alpha or something

[radiant vortex]

manifest armour forgebreath only

[scenic gyro]

@waxen nymph Happy Patch Day 🎉🥰

[cosmic jetty]

Guys, for Devouring Orb vk what are the differences between dot version with time rot and hit version with smite? Like a better or worse clear/single target/tank? Or are they just different flavor? They both seem very similar in playstyle and I can't decide which one to play :x

[waxen nymph]

Hard to say without being able to play them ^^

[obsidian bloom]

can anybody comment on this crit ricochet hammer throw build I cooked up? any advise?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/o3pDVnEA

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (15) / Forge Guard (73) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 3,335, Regen: 37/s
▸ Mana: 122.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 52 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 81% / 81% / 91% / 88% / 99% / 95%
▸ EHP: 15,921 / 15,921 / 15,921 / 23,515 / 16,759 / 15,921 / 15,921

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 54%, Threshold: 667
▸ Dodge Chance: 7% (208)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 57% (4,007)
▸ Block Chance: 71%, Mitigation: 60% (3,099)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire, Void / Spell, Throwing, DoT

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (26)
• Shield Throw (24)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Smite (21)
• Ring Of Shields (21)

Used unique items:

• Countenance of Majasa
• Thorn Slinger
• Li'raka's Claws
• Razorfall
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[waxen nymph]

Looks good

I would not take this

Very unreliable

This is safer

[obsidian bloom]

thanks!

[radiant vortex]

by the point random mob is stunned it's also dead, by the point a boss is stunned it isn't

[waxen nymph]

Stunning is hard to reliably do

Bosses have so much hp

[obsidian bloom]

that 150% looked juicy

[waxen nymph]

It does

But will be hard to use properly

[obsidian bloom]

gotcha, appreciate it, thanks!

[waxen nymph]

One last thing

You dont have a lot of Flat Throwing Dmg

Relic, Belt, Amu and Rings

Youshould aim fore more

[ionic inlet]

@waxen nymph Updated meme
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A2GMwy0Q

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Paladin (93)

General:

▸ Health: 2,910, Regen: 235.98/s
▸ Mana: 428.93, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 18/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 87 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 201% / 106% / 81% / 80% / 67% / 102% / 73%
▸ EHP: 8,154 / 8,154 / 8,154 / 11,981 / 7,550 / 8,154 / 7,994

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 52%, Threshold: 790
▸ Armor Mitigation: 61% (4,538)
▸ Block Chance: 30%, Mitigation: 34% (925)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Immolator's Oblation (20/20), Divine Essence (3/3), Frenzy, Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Smite (21)
• Symbols of Hope (29)
• Healing Hands (25)
• Judgement (22)
• Holy Aura (21)

Used unique items:

• Immolator's Oblation
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Grasp of the Blood Mage
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Yulia's Path
• Rahyeh's Light

[stray plinth]

how meme u would rate it

[radiant vortex]

worrysome levels

[stray plinth]

i like it

full paladin

[ionic inlet]

If I could I'd spent 50 more points in paladin tree, so many good nodes

[stray plinth]

real and true

it s kinda rf with an activ

[ionic inlet]

Symbols of hope bomba out of 10

[waxen nymph]

Looks nice !!

I would max this

For more cast speed

[obsidian bloom]

is this node worth chasing? or too much points?

[ionic inlet]

Judgement ok or should I do more changes, like Eruption, less area or something?

[ionic inlet]

Riiight forgot it gave cast speed!

[waxen nymph]

I would take all the Dmg

ALL THE DMG

[stray plinth]

with no area i think its kinda meh no ?

[ionic inlet]

^ My thought too

[stray plinth]

but duration

maybe u can drob that

[ionic inlet]

1000% dmg is 0 damage if they're not in the bubble

[frozen marsh]

how is blessed hammer leveling? can i go blessed hammer until 70? didnt decide what to play

[covert phoenix]

imo

[waxen nymph]

Its nice but its far away

[covert phoenix]

they completely screwed the balance on judgement with their change on pious offering

I don't think they realized what they did

[waxen nymph]

That way you are in Range for Divine Flare 😏

[waxen nymph]

?

[ionic inlet]

Yes 100%
Hammers have always been great for leveling

[covert phoenix]

Let's say you were a judgement which wasn't really mana stacking, just taking 1/5 pious offering in order to get the no cooldown node

[ionic inlet]

Will have to see what it feels like but yeah, ALL THE DAMAGE is very neat

[frozen marsh]

chance to ign*bleed go go right?

[waxen nymph]

It used to be the same number but consume all your mana before

[covert phoenix]

Before, judgement was costing you 20% of current mana +55 mana in order to get 27,5% + 10% current mana more damage

[stray plinth]

the mana spend thing dosnt go on the aura or groudn right ? just the hit

[ionic inlet]

Should be great!

[covert phoenix]

now, it costs 5% current mana + 55 mana in order to get 110% +10% current mana more damage

[waxen nymph]

It does, its a generic More Dmg

[stray plinth]

huh, okay that is crazy

[covert phoenix]

except the 55 base mana were giving 27.5% more damage, not 110

it's free 65% more damage for even less mana consumed

yes, it's roughly the same if you are manastacking and go ham 5/5 pious offering

if you intend to spam? It's a gigantic buff

[waxen nymph]

This used to be in the game

Before 1.1

[covert phoenix]

yes

and they nerfed it for a reason

[waxen nymph]

But now you can onbly consume 1/4 of your mana

[covert phoenix]

i'm not talking about mana stacking judgement here

[waxen nymph]

So its still 1/4 of the more Dmg from before 1.1

[radiant vortex]

god good ol full mana send into VR

that stuff HIT

[stray plinth]

So Catzy, simbol bomber as starter ?

[ionic inlet]

Yes and I'm spamming healing hands to cast bolts that goes everywhere

[ionic inlet]

I've probably too low mana regen for this, most likely gonna go 1-2 points in Pious or something.
Will the aura always ignite enemies?

[stray plinth]

gigalow ignite with 20mil hits

is fine right

[obsidian bloom]

would it be worth dropping smite for symbols of hope maybe? I put in smite as reflex but it may not be worth for a throwing build

[ionic inlet]

I saw it might have 100% chance to ignite with aura ^^

But it say "hits" so not sure

[stray plinth]

now paly need a note that lets him ingite with dmg overtime

balenced for suuure

[ionic inlet]

It's probably fine, would hit a lot of times per second with other skills anyway. Potential!!?

[stray plinth]

that is what i mean , maybe throw duration out and max the dmg with ignite thing

mana thingy idk about , would be much dmg

but having no area, meh - and extra skill point hard to get cuz symbols bonus lvl q.q

now i think about a pure aura build xD

[ionic inlet]

5 seconds instead of 8 would hurt, mega mana cost xD

If you were to do a aura build you can get your mana back eeeeeasy by spamming smite (with mana gained on smite on chest)

[stray plinth]

but if it does enough dmg , not sure about that

would be comfy for sure to run around with that aura

[ionic inlet]

You don't need extra symbols mod, it's a test anyway. 1 more sigil probably won't matter that much

[stray plinth]

well that would free up 4 lvl

DMG

[analog tide]

Can someone please explain difference between "cooldown recovery speed +100%" vs "no cooldown" (in forge strike tree)?. Doesnt 100% cooldown recovery mean no cooldown?

its the "lightforge" and "beneath solarum" nodes

[ionic inlet]

The only thing you would need for this build is something that damages you, possibly some health converted to ward or something.

[waxen nymph]

Don't you have some ignite chance somewhere? With how many hit you are going to do it should be easy

[ionic inlet]

Yeah I thought about it after don't worry about it xD

Would be nice if the aura always ignited as well, says hit though so probably doesn't.

[stray plinth]

aura should not, cuz dmg overtime no hit

only if aura changes it for some weird reason

[ionic inlet]

Yeah got 12% ignite chance from holy aura ^^

[stray plinth]

more dmg with bit area

[covert phoenix]

cooldown recovery divides the cooldown by 1+CDR

so 100% cooldown recovery is 50% cd

[stray plinth]

btw , does unarmed mean also no shield ? or just no weapon?

[analog tide]

thank you!

[covert phoenix]

shield and catalyst allowed

[stray plinth]

got it , ty

[analog tide]

was gonna do a warpath minion build but now maybe doing forge strike since it scales with attunement so it helps forge strike and minion dmg

well minion stats

plus forge strike base is 2 dmg, warpath is 1

[ionic inlet]

Unarmed if you have weapon in off-hand? 😏

[stray plinth]

if i throw my shield, am i rly unarmed ?

[ionic inlet]

Enemies: Look he's unarmed hahaha gets shield in their face

[stray plinth]

bonk

[mortal rapids]

So we think chain hammer worth playing with?

[ionic inlet]

Yes even when it's a cooldown skill

[stray plinth]

Just spam it

[covert phoenix]

just noticed with the new blade storm, you can trigger flame burst from holy aura twice per swing haha

not sure if it can scale properly tho

[astral lintel]

Tfw you cant decide between sentienl classes so im probably gonna reroll 3 times during campaign

[slim spire]

Tbf you don't hit the boss with your warpath, you just summon from a safe distance

[analog tide]

So then its logical to use warpath purely to summon and not worry about scaling it with strength?

and also as defensive for more block or get out of bad stuff sorta thing?

[slim spire]

Yes

[radiant vortex]

nah you do both

safest place is under boss anyway

[slim spire]

No man your warpath tickle the boss, literally

[analog tide]

i believe maxing the node means you can summon once every 2 sec of spinning right?

how does that "fee" in a practical sense

is that too slow?

[slim spire]

Nah it's fine

[analog tide]

feel*

[slim spire]

It feels slow if your whole army got wiped out by the tribeam for example

[analog tide]

how does it compare vs forge strike?

[slim spire]

But against stuff like other bosses & mapclear, it's fast enough

[analog tide]

maybe im just dumb but im trying to make forge strike work but dont see any guides

[slim spire]

Fs is faster if you can proc on multiple enemies at once, since each of them will summon once

However warpath will presummon all the time

Hence ensuring you having your full army all the time with you

[analog tide]

oh so i can warpath on an empty map and summon vs forge strike i need to hit an enemy?

[slim spire]

Correct

[analog tide]

oh so you could presummon a bunch of minions before going uyp to a boss for example

vs forge strike youll be at 0 at start of fight

[slim spire]

Correct

[analog tide]

so since were logically, in this context, considering warpath mainly for minion support, does it not make sense to use the new 2h+shield passive in FG tree? For this warpath summon build im talking about?

[stray plinth]

dosnt work on the aura right

[fair hollow]

for ppl interested the Spell Manifest Armor Pally build for s2 is in #🎥┃video-shoutout tought it was a quick 10 min video but turned into 52 min explanation 💀

[stray plinth]

quick lil thing

[slim spire]

If you are super good at weaving and avoiding enemy attacks, you don't need the shield. Since you lose dmg. Most people are not that good tho, so the 2h shield node is super good

[queen glade]

Bro literally everyone and their mom is playing void damage sentinels this time around, the gear will be.. expensive lmao

[stray plinth]

the reason why u dont play trade

[analog tide]

i dont care enough to learn all the values for MG

ill go cof

[queen glade]

Thé reason I DO go MG, I will sell all of it and play something off meta hue

Can't imagine playing an ARPG without being able to trade unfortunately 😭

[bleak yew]

is there a list of good uniques you can get in early game ?

[burnt surge]

lightning javadin for meeeee

[stray plinth]

i love finding my stuff myself and LE gives such a good option with it

s2 makes it even better

but that is why there is options ofr both

[queen glade]

Oh yeah LE definitely has the best SSF experience

[analog tide]

another question if you dont mind. So i can then use warpath after your suggestions but still prioritize attunement for the minions right?

[radiant vortex]

yeah you don't need to do any dmg with warpath

just use it for its ease of trigger and defensives while using it

[analog tide]

ok

is there a recommended shield for this type of minion build?

[bleak yew]

are most of you just following maxroll lvl guide ? (Hammers into Javelin into MS ?)

[analog tide]

and 2h i guess

[radiant vortex]

not really an explicit shield, just whats best defenisvely I believe <_<

[analog tide]

i was thinking maybe sword catcher to give minions frenzy?

like sword catcher and horns or bastion?

just to get as much defense i guess

[radiant vortex]

depends a little on what path you're optimizing dps

are you doing dots or hit

[atomic wren]

For the new temporal reversal combo with devouring orb....the one where it can make devouring orb "younger",doesnt that mean with enough cooldown reduction you can have LOTS of permanent devouring orb if you have enough mana to cast them?

[narrow valley]

hopefully smite is not that much stronger than not smite on dot/ vit caster

[analog tide]

i guess whats stronger in a minion build for forge guard- flat, bleed, or ignite?

[narrow valley]

because smiting just doesn't sound as cool

as deleting someone from existence

[sharp ibex]

hows this work? just smite in, consecrate, losing health makes Seal go off on purpose?

something like that?

[ionic inlet]

Judgement for aura, Smite in, Symbol of Hope booooom and main attack with Healing Hands to spawn 100 divine bolts

[sharp ibex]

thats fckn sweet

[stray plinth]

that build for sure sounds fun

[stray plinth]

looks nice for sure

bit worried about how the area feels without the items

[fair hollow]

the echo gameplay showed in video was with 0 area increase on gear forgot to mention that

[stray plinth]

ah aight

[mystic venture]

Hello there. Question about these two skills. If I picked Temporal Warrior, does it now get additional void damage if I use swords?

[stray plinth]

well with area on gloves and amulet it would be pretty f ing big ngl

[waxen nymph]

No, Flat Dmg that has a type never get converted

[rapid slate]

Not me, I want to go Rive focus with the 2h node into healing hands. It’s a solid build to carry me I reckon to 300-400 corruption

[waxen nymph]

Correct

[stray plinth]

would have been fun tho , omega RF

obv that not and why but still

[waxen nymph]

Oh wait

Sorry

[mystic venture]

I see. Thanks. Also, I'm guessing Weapon Specialist is additive because it says "additional". So, if I still use swords it's not that big of a loss?

[waxen nymph]

Misread, the area does get bigger

You dont get flat Dmg though

Sorry

[stray plinth]

hmmm

maybe it is on the table then

[waxen nymph]

Yes it adds Flat Dmg

[stray plinth]

meme city ?

[waxen nymph]

Its actually pretty strong to clear echoes because you can get Flat Dmg elsewhere > Healing Effect

And now that HE also gives Fire Pen

[fossil musk]

Damn I have football when it launches

hopefully guys u cant play and when I come back its ON

[waxen nymph]

You might want to change that statement 👀

[fossil musk]

Ok sorry !

Tho u have the name of the most hated champ on league of legends

https://tenor.com/view/путин-putin-greetings-приветствие-машет-gif-13885829740937561891

and also :

[waxen nymph]

Actually, my name come from the French Translation of the main Character in Golden Sun

[stray plinth]

i have the impaler in mind with that name

[waxen nymph]

Not sure why they didnt stick with Isaac

[stray plinth]

both neat imo

[waxen nymph]

Fun Fact n2
I am a Urgot main 🦀 💀

[stray plinth]

i got the double whammy, even tho they both kinda nice

[fossil musk]

Damn this game seems good I should test it

[stray plinth]

oh a crabster

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/urgot-crab-rave-crab-lo-l-memes-gif-13492300

[stray plinth]

know the old urgot ?

[waxen nymph]

Yes, but didnt like it

They reworked him the same season I started to play ranked
Tried him , loved him

[loud lark]

when is game gonna be available?

[waxen nymph]

4h30min

[stray plinth]

New is for sure cooler

old was cancer

even tho it fits lul

[alpine canopy]

Oh weird, I would have never guessed that

[waxen nymph]

Btw lovely peoples, Twitch Drops up already

[alpine canopy]

They are great

[stray plinth]

on an omega Aura build, should i stack idols with he or others with the new flat spell statt, not ez

[waxen nymph]

HE gives more Flat I believe

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/william-dafoe-connoisseur-something-of-gif-22824550

[stray plinth]

should be right

and also pen

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[stray plinth]

and everything

the world

[vivid adder]

do we know how much mastery respec cost at lvl 50ish? i saw 1mil at lvl 100 so i can assume it could be like 500k for 50?

[stray plinth]

should be reasonable

[stray plinth]

thats nice

[ionic inlet]

Meme build #2 Disintegrated Aura Hammer throw spiral WHICH is using the giga mana cost converted to more multipliers
(Atm auras have 29,6 more multiplier!)

[vivid adder]

oh wow, didnt saw that, so i can pretty much level as pala and respec vk later freely

[waxen nymph]

Its stronk AF

Maybe not AF but its strong and got better

[inland quarry]

how will you sustain mana?

[ionic inlet]

Finally viable shield

[waxen nymph]

On Hammer Throw Void Dot ?

[inland quarry]

yea

[waxen nymph]

Why ?

[stray plinth]

more mana cost

[alpine canopy]

Also viable with world splitter maybe 😁

[waxen nymph]

Abberoth Command wayyyyy to good there

[inland quarry]

oh but i thought they wanted to use more mana to get more dmg

[ionic inlet]

Haven't gotten very far yet but smite would give mana on cast (from helmet) aaaaand smite would also make void beams

[waxen nymph]

Smite deals Spell Dmg
Hammer Void Dot is a Throwing DoT

Meh

[ionic inlet]

You would stack +throwing and DoT, would work for both no? 😄

[alpine canopy]

Yeah, for that build for sure

[waxen nymph]

You wont have Flat Dmg for Smite

[alpine canopy]

+throwing doesn't help smite

[ionic inlet]

Not good enough?

Yeah I know but could try to work something out surely

[alpine canopy]

Not ideal with a bunch of affixes used for throwing probably

[lean scarab]

Phy Javelin or Electrify Javelin which one ll be better? whats your opinions?

[ionic inlet]

Could technically use void cleave to get +100 throwing but would miss out on a good weapon and in this case more mana cost is great

[waxen nymph]

Lightning looks cooler

[alpine canopy]

Electrify looks cooler, not sure which is better. Bleed probably a little harder to build.

[waxen nymph]

The sceptre allows VC without a 2h and also makes it instant cast

[ionic inlet]

Oh right you are, I know maybe 10% of void skills. Real challenge for sure

[lean scarab]

phys one is not bleed its hit based one with sierpin'n fractal tree

[radiant vortex]

phalanx trigger javelin apparently has no mana cost

so...

[alpine canopy]

Oh, then electrify all the way

You'd want sierpin for bleed, too

[lean scarab]

the one im talking about is from maxroll crit scaling hit damage

[fossil musk]

is there any global loot filter that I can use

[waxen nymph]

Not sure

[fossil musk]

or in this game better going for a specific one ?

[waxen nymph]

Dragon Bone Axe is really hard to beat

[stray plinth]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXwamqwB

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Paladin (92)

General:

▸ Health: 4,317, Regen: 297.54/s
▸ Mana: 416.08, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 95 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 253% / 122% / 97% / 77% / 89% / 84% / 77%
▸ EHP: 13,354 / 13,354 / 13,354 / 20,297 / 13,354 / 13,354 / 13,354

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 71%, Threshold: 1,113
▸ Armor Mitigation: 63% (4,945)
▸ Block Chance: 30%, Mitigation: 34% (925)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Divine Essence (3/3), Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Smite (21)
• Symbols of Hope (23)
• Healing Hands (25)
• Judgement (26)
• Holy Aura (21)

Used unique items:

• Orian's Sun Seal
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Yulia's Path
• Rahyeh's Light
• Hand of Judgement

[eternal dawn]

Does anyone know of any good sources of ignite duration for paladin?

[waxen nymph]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/search?query=ignite duration&in_description=1&exact_match=0

[eternal dawn]

other than the chest and helmet affix

ooh thx

[fossil musk]

in sentinel what counts as a buff please ?

like if I take nodes buff in shield throw does it counts as a buff ?

[waxen nymph]

Need the buff tag

[fossil musk]

so there is no way to add the buff tag ?

[waxen nymph]

Jav with Banner
Holy Aura
Symbols
HH

[stray plinth]

did some plan a fullout multistrike build so far?

[summer lake]

Is Rive still plenty fine for progression or early leveling? Cba to fully respec

[waxen nymph]

Yes

[waxen nymph]

Smite or Pure Melee ?

[sinful basalt]

hammer is so strong specially with + throw dmg and stuff ya can find on gear that i'd still go hammer basicalyl all the time for levelling

[stray plinth]

rly as dmg skill, but smite version could also be fun

full out extra blades in idols and stuff

[grand bear]

wat

[summer lake]

Hmm. I’m more familiar with Rive. How far can hammer go before you need to respec to the proper build?

[waxen nymph]

Monos easily

[fluid sparrow]

One more question about All Consuming Devouring Orbs, how easy is it to get 8 orbs close enough to overlap in area and then be consumed? Or noone has a clue 😄

[stark birch]

What do you guys think will be the best endgame sentinel build this league?

[sinful basalt]

it doesn't ya can say hammer forever if a want LOL it cane asily be a proper build

specailly hammer throw aura/dot looks promising

[sudden sigil]

i wouldnt go hammer the whole way because if you happen to not get the throwing affixes it becomes pain

[sinful basalt]

depends on what's broken/busted and how long ittakes for the devs to fix said broken/busted things, warpath looks busted for example

[sinful basalt]

still has quite good dmg even without all the throwing stuff, ya just go aura and ya stillsc ale off void/dmg over time etc

[radiant vortex]

unarmed judgement clearly

[sinful basalt]

need to live test to have any clue how we'll manage orbs

[waxen nymph]

Just get bleed

[sinful basalt]

or this too ye i have no experience with it though

[fluid sparrow]

THought so 😄 thx 😄

[waxen nymph]

You get this early and its easy

Go Spiral Hammer, done

[sudden sigil]

yeah ill just stick with spells

[atomic bear]

I do not have a numpad on my keyboard, but I thought the devs stated numlock was no longer a thing or needed etc? The guide I want to build says "You will need to Num Lock Anomaly or else you will need to use extra buttons" does anyone know if I can get around this without a numpad?

[analog steppe]

VR brings them all together where you can then pop them all at once

[summer lake]

Oh 😅

[analog steppe]

We’ve seen them use it in the interviews and videos

[waxen nymph]

They cant remove numlock because its a window OS thing
They try to design skill in a way you dont want to numlock them
Otherwise just leave your finger pressing the key

[lofty creek]

Num lock trick was more used for Sigils of Hope, that's gone

Symbols don't require it anymore

[waxen nymph]

Anomaly is nice with numlock too

[lofty creek]

Yeah it is once you get the CDR going

[radiant vortex]

numlock warpath

[atomic bear]

Oof, i dont have a numpad though. I feel like it will leave me at a huge dps disadvantage

[waxen nymph]

Just press the key

[lofty creek]

You get used to hitting the button every 5sec it's not that hard

[stable ice]

i found this on youtube

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXwDOqwB

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (72) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,613, Regen: 26/s
▸ Mana: 118.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 32 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 13 Vit
▸ Resistances: 66% / 34% / 34% / 86% / 79% / 31% / 49%
▸ EHP: 2,666 / 2,417 / 2,417 / 2,766 / 3,141 / 1,658 / 1,895

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 570
▸ Armor Mitigation: 25% (1,099)
▸ Block Chance: 3%, Mitigation: 5% (30)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Warpath (21)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Symbols of Hope (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)
• Anomaly (21)

Used unique items:

• Fighting Chance

This build has a guide:

Void Knight Warpath Leveling Guide | Spin2Win From Campaign To Endgame! | LE 1.2 by Squirrely

[stable ice]

its for leveling as void knight warpath

what do u think looks fine right?

[waxen nymph]

OOF

[stable ice]

?

[sinful basalt]

warpath during campaign has kinda low st though but it should work?

[radiant vortex]

for prosperity

[stable ice]

u realize the armor equiped is fr lvl 10 etc right

[waxen nymph]

Also Warpath doesnt have a lot of Dmg early
I would not recommand

[stable ice]

okay

[sinful basalt]

yep not alot of early scaling

[waxen nymph]

Rive + HH looks a lot better for Lvling, if you want melee

[stable ice]

at around lvl 70 itll be fine tho right, its not like a giga endgame skill?

[waxen nymph]

Warpath is good later, but requires work to get started imo

[sinful basalt]

correct

but prolly until late lv 50-60

[stable ice]

okay thats fine yea i guess i level as paladin then

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A2Gxxb0Q

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (20) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (55)

General:

▸ Health: 1,284, Regen: 56.43/s
▸ Mana: 195.51, Regen: 12.74/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 18 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 107% / 75% / 75% / 117% / 72% / 112% / 24%
▸ EHP: 1,949 / 1,941 / 1,941 / 2,121 / 1,992 / 1,949 / 1,289

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 510
▸ Armor Mitigation: 10% (258)
▸ Block Chance: 19%, Mitigation: 20% (245)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (20)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Symbols of Hope (20)
• Shield Rush (20)

Used unique items:

• Avarice

[stable ice]

this

?

[ionic inlet]

I wish warpath had more incentive to stop spinning

[waxen nymph]

Warrior Fury + Warslash

[fluid sparrow]

Wondering if anyone used MultiStrike during campaign...if it was ok for clearing... thus with the new node it might also be good during bosses of campaign?

[covert phoenix]

i'm not seeing the combo

[waxen nymph]

For Void Dot Hammer ??

[covert phoenix]

for with the 50% increased manacost shield

[ionic inlet]

Cause of this

[covert phoenix]

right

[waxen nymph]

Oh!

But that shield will nuke your Mana , dont recommand it on that build

[atomic bear]

For leveling, is it essentially best practice to make it to holy trail javelin and utilize that? I want to go hammers but it almost seems like I don't utilize them much?

[sinful basalt]

who told you holy trail ajvelin's the only way?

it's def not

hammer is eprfectly fine, rave is, warpath "can work but has low scaling" from lv 30 or so ya can go smtie with the smite scaling from vit node plenty of stuff that outperforms or eprforms similarly to javelin

[ionic inlet]

Only made it 43 mana cost so far and smite would so far give back 15 mana but the whole idea was to nuke your mana, get mega damage and get it back fast with smite cause of Devotion 🤣

[sudden sigil]

holy trail got kinda worse with the patch, you can try smite fissure if you want a ground dot for leveling

[left coyote]

Prob maxroll guide

[waxen nymph]

What got changed ?

[sudden sigil]

didnt get compensated as much for volatile reversal loss

[ionic inlet]

From 59 -> 43 mana cost is only a 8% more multiplier loss

[sudden sigil]

especially while leveling its pretty bad now

[atomic bear]

Sorry no one said its the only way, I just thought holy trail kind of cleared screens while leveling. Maybe I'll just utilize hammers the whole way? I assumed with hammers I'd go OOM a lot

[void cradle]

Anyone have experience with early end game erasing strike? I want to try it this cycle but I'm concerned that without decent gear it will be a struggle. My question then is what is the likelihood it would be smoother to level as something else then transition after?

[eternal dawn]

it'll probably still be fine for leveling when paired with judgment aura. It's just a little boring imo

[left coyote]

Just use whatever skill you enjoy. A little slower start is np tbh

[waxen nymph]

Could make it really good imo

[sudden sigil]

you dont really get healing effect while leveling tho

[radiant vortex]

just slap attunement on any piece of gear you find

[waxen nymph]

Wow !!

Didnt see that

[radiant vortex]

its clear wasn't really changed, its just you need to solve for mana back

[waxen nymph]

What the heck

Free 15% More Dmg for Paladin

[ionic inlet]

I think it was 10 before Tombs season

[sudden sigil]

huge leveling nerf there as well

[waxen nymph]

Its was Increased Dmg

[ionic inlet]

Was it?

[gusty abyss]

Yeah, 100% at max hp

[ionic inlet]

Even more of a reason to go SoH 💣

[stray plinth]

That s good, without that paly would be weak

[radiant vortex]

oh wait no you don't need to solve for mana only cd is the limiter

[covert phoenix]

Honestly, I completely missed crushing blows

[radiant vortex]

they made it free thats neat

[covert phoenix]

it's pretty good, went +41% more damage on my erasing strike nuking combo build

38M dps on paper now

[analog tide]

What type is stronger in a warpath minion build for forge guard- flat, bleed, or ignite?

[covert phoenix]

what kind of minion? Forged weapons?

[waxen nymph]

@crimson rover I dont know if its good

But its an idea

[analog tide]

i was thinking foprged weapons yes but also ring of sheilds and manifest armor

[waxen nymph]

Having a sword allow you to use this too

[covert phoenix]

for forged weapons, you are using void cleave for +flat fire damage and it's by far the best way to scale it

[crimson rover]

very easy to get this weapon going as well

[eternal dawn]

Does anyone mind looking over my Searing Pride Paladin build? I wanna try boosting the EHP since I think(?) the damage is good enough - https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Brdnpz4A

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (10) / Forge Guard (25) / Paladin (58)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Used skills:

• Rive (21)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Symbols of Hope (24)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• Jasper's Searing Pride
• Maehlin's Hubris
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Titan Heart
• Sunwreath
• Throne of Ambition

[analog tide]

like as in dont bother at all with warpath?

[waxen nymph]

Crit Chance+ Flat Spell

[crimson rover]

but what else would you use to make using this weapon worthwhile+str stacking

i dont think lava burst alone is enough

divine flare?

[odd mist]

Quick question, whats the go to spec for easy spin2win?

[noble zenith]

VK or paladin

[waxen nymph]

Smite

[waxen nymph]

With Smite Idols

[elfin warren]

What's the science behind the fact that the workday is twice as long as usual on release days? I just want to play Void Knight

[eternal dawn]

that scales the hit damage no? not ignite?

or am i misreading

oh wait its' rive hits

[covert phoenix]

nvm, missed it was ignite

[waxen nymph]

Yes Hit Dmg only

[eternal dawn]

oh

[crimson rover]

but smite doesnt scale with str does it

[odd mist]

Is VK or Pala faster movement wise?

[covert phoenix]

though it was hit rive

mb mb

[waxen nymph]

With Palarus it get Flat Dmg per Str

Also its a really strong Spell

[eternal dawn]

yeah I wanna scale the ignite and since it has a bunch of extra melee damage, boost the lacerate too

[covert phoenix]

honestly, for melee ailment sentinel

I don't think multistrike can be beaten

[ionic inlet]

Memes, 242 throwing (342 if cleave) and 87 flat spell

[covert phoenix]

even with searing pride

[eternal dawn]

why's that?

[covert phoenix]

rive doesn't have a lot of more damage

and it's hitting once

[waxen nymph]

Also be careful, the Jasper Stack dont get double by Rive

[covert phoenix]

even with its fast attack speed

while multistrike has gigantic more multipliers all around

and is hitting 5 times per swing

[radiant vortex]

hmmm... do I wanna actually go full crafted zerricks on this weird ass elecrtify set <_<

[eternal dawn]

does it hit the same target you're hitting or can it spread for packs? One of the reasons i like Rive so much is because of the pull from the Challenge node

makes mapping comfy

[waxen nymph]

Can go both

[covert phoenix]

with bladestorm, it's spread for pack, concentrated for single target

[analog tide]

is multistrike sorta like barb frenzy from diablo 2/3?

[waxen nymph]

Basic behavior is spread

[covert phoenix]

best of both world

[eternal dawn]

That sounds good

[rigid dragon]

just checking the packs, if i buy one that is the second tier then later when i want to buy the fourth tier pack do i get a cost reduction like poe or no its full price for all of them

[analog tide]

Would this work? Multistrike with the forge strike node to summon minions?

[covert phoenix]

5 multistrike hit, with +60% more damage and +100% more damage

and 30% on the main hit but pretty ignorable

[eternal dawn]

so all 5 can hit a single target and they'll all apply ignite?

as in it's a melee attack from myself?

[covert phoenix]

yes

[eternal dawn]

Lol

Yeah I'll try that

I don't think i'll miss lacerate too much

[waxen nymph]

Sword on kill is nice but its so far away

[eternal dawn]

the attack speed reduction is a little sad though

i wish staves could have melee attack speed on them

[summer lake]

Hmm I think Rive with VK and Bleed chance should be fine to get me through to respec 🤝

[buoyant estuary]

What do yall think, would it be to mana intensive to run a devouring orb warpath (that triggers smite ) build ?

[scenic gyro]

@gusty abyss someone is calling you xD

[south zephyr]

Yes but theres plenty of ways to offset

[gusty abyss]

On vk it will be fine with the void well passive

[buoyant estuary]

I know there where plenty of smite idols too but ill be damed if i remember havent played much since launch

[gusty abyss]

Dorb can generate the required charges as well

[buoyant estuary]

I also gotta check on what the build will scale, vit, spell, void, and what skill would be the main dmg dealer

[noble zenith]

anyone got a clean bleed hammer leveling loot filter?

[arctic tartan]

@fair hollow Experimental affixes can no longer be sealed

[covert phoenix]

you can pick it with 21 skill points and all multipliers

[buoyant estuary]

Ill make a sentinel for sure, idk how it will turn out, i think we also got something that changed javeli ? A uinque maybe i sont remember

[scenic gyro]

they can?

like any other affix

[arctic tartan]

Developer note and clarification regarding previously given incorrect information: Rune of Research was previously guaranteed and the only way to seal an Experimental affix. Experimental affixes cannot be obtained as shards, which means that Experimental affixes are no longer able to be sealed. We felt this a safe trade-off for the ability to more easily target Experimental affixes on good item bases and the ability to increase them to higher tiers using Rune of Havoc.

Per patch notes

[scenic gyro]

huh

[analog steppe]

Crafting requires shards unless you are using a rune

[scenic gyro]

oh right, that makes sense then

ty for the info, i didnt plan for that

[buoyant estuary]

Ah btw i remember there was a node to make holy hands a space laser and it was buged, was that fixed since launch?

[slim spire]

Full price as there's no upgrading iirc

[arctic tartan]

Might be a couple planners out there with those affixes sealed. I only stumbled upon the info when I looked up how you can get them nowadays

[covert phoenix]

Also, imo, you should give up on the gloves and get falcon fists instead

you are losing a bit of ignite chance, that you make up from the attack speed

and you are freeing ton of passive points

[slim spire]

Yes it's the fastest way currently to summon fw without presummoning them

[analog tide]

is that faster than the warpath summong you mentioned earlier?

[analog steppe]

I think it’s still unknown if Warlords Riches can seal experimentals, my assumption is not but who can tell

[slim spire]

1 is pre summoning, another is in battle summoning

[fair hollow]

ah ty for the info! i did not now that

[arctic tartan]

Build is ruined 😦 we lose 7-8 attunement.

[analog tide]

Srulz thank you for answering all my questions

[fair hollow]

nah we can get champion affix version on ring instead

[analog tide]

in a multistrike forge strike minion build- would you prioritize multistrike or forge strike levels on the chest?

[arctic tartan]

I was being hyperbolic, but good to know that it can drop on rings too

[slim spire]

If your fw got wiped due to boss mechanic, multistrike is faster. Otherwise presummoning is better as you start battle with full army

[slim spire]

Both are useless really, since you are not lacking points for those. 1st get mantle of the ox. Then slam w/e t7 you want.

[analog tide]

in this context we'd still attunement > strngth, to benefit minions right?

[slim spire]

Yes

[eternal dawn]

yeah it'll save up some passive points too. What about wing guards? It's more attack speed than falcon fists

[analog tide]

you're a legend thank you

[slim spire]

Np

[eternal dawn]

just probably won't get a 2lp wing guard lol

[slim spire]

Not with that attitude 🤣

[eternal dawn]

i mean it's possible, just 0.96% possible

I'd probably buy it anyway

[arctic tartan]

At least you can keep rerolling nowadays with the turtle

If you roll zero you can egg 'em

[slim spire]

Just go mg, have gold np

[eternal dawn]

trueee

honestly i'm happy with what i'm looking at i'm just more concerned about the dot and one shot ehp

[sinful basalt]

anybody thinkering with mana cost increase void hammer throw aura yet? if so wanna talk a lil?

[arctic tartan]

@fair hollow How do you plan on leveling the build? MA ASAP or something else and transition into MA when you can get all the essential nodesß

[analog tide]

@slim spire would you recommend immortal vice or julra gloves?

[radiant vortex]

god I might not even try to make a forged weapon / bee army build at this point

[slim spire]

Neither, use falcon fists

[radiant vortex]

I already have 6 valid builds, making a 7th and I still got one more idea I wanna see if i can get on paper before I try to make a minion army better than ghazzy without even lookin at what he did

[slim spire]

Do you want a spoiler?

[analog tide]

Are there breakpoints in last epoch that affect attack speeds? Sorta like in Diablo 2 with zealers?

[radiant vortex]

I mean the answer is ofc yes

[slim spire]

He ran a cookie cutter fw build

[radiant vortex]

I just might not bother, running out of time before launch and I gotta go to the shops >_>

[slim spire]

Which mean it's probably going to be meta now

[analog tide]

and is there a point where diminishing returns kicks in?

for melee attack speed

[slim spire]

@alpine canopy do you know this?

[buoyant estuary]

Anyone has any cool ideas to build around this ? Gotta check javelin nodes , but idk how viable its for bossing as u need to be hit to trigger it

[analog tide]

im thinking maybe not since i think the reason there were BPs in diablo 2 was because of limitations of the engine, that was over 20 years ago

[slim spire]

I honestly have never heard of it

[fair hollow]

i like to play it as soon as i get MA but im not racing or anything

[ionic inlet]

No you can attack 10 times/second and it's fine, nothing in the game that would reduce it or anything

[arctic tartan]

Are the nodes on the skills laid out in the recommended order?

[ionic inlet]

I'm certain there's youtube videos for it already, using vengeance

[covert phoenix]

wing guard is a lot weaker than falconfist because 1-2 LP is everything you can reasonnable expect while falcon can get 3LP fairly reliably

[buoyant estuary]

How can it be the item is not live yet?

[ionic inlet]

As a theory craft and explaining the build

[buoyant estuary]

Ah , i see

[eternal dawn]

a 2lp wing guards should be better if i can get it from the merchants guild i imagine?

i tend to play merchants guild

[fair hollow]

probably not, go for forge breath and the cd nodes then move towards weapon and try to have some cast speed on gloves fast

[covert phoenix]

depends on if you have a 3rd affix you want or not

[eternal dawn]

probably attack speed, damage over time and life i imagine

[covert phoenix]

also, change your idols, you have some pretty good weaver affixes, like 20% ignite chance and some fire pen on stout

[ionic inlet]

We should have pins of theory crafts planners

[eternal dawn]

oh yeah i haven't looked at the new affixes yet thanks

[arctic tartan]

Do you not have your own discord in which you have a thread with all the yoinked planners and guides you consider?

[eternal dawn]

i wonder how hard they'll be to get

[slim spire]

Can I use your build with snapshot manifest armor, but a normal fw build? I understand that it will be weaker

[covert phoenix]

both affixes are common rarity

who knows about the rarity of the idols themselves

[fair hollow]

yes

[ionic inlet]

No but good idea, I just have this and they're my own. Haven't really found something else to just yoink

[fair hollow]

i do hope they remove the fiing snapshotting in s3

[slim spire]

Haha me too, that's why I play fw anyway

Since it's so hard to snapshot fw

[waxen nymph]

Just make a macro to hot swap your gear ^^

[fair hollow]

build was designed to not need it luckily

[slim spire]

Are you trying to get me banned from the game mr moderator?!

[ionic inlet]

I did the hammer thing, I mean it's pretty solid I must say 😂

[rapid pecan]

i got a similar build using that

[analog tide]

dumb question- but if you are doing say a melee fire build, and you have +melee cold damage on a weapon, what does that do? Does it do nothing if you arent using a skill with a melee cold tag?

[arctic tartan]

Nothing

[slim spire]

?

[slim spire]

Flat damage you mean?

It just add to your damage

[analog tide]

yeah flat

[radiant vortex]

apparently the triggered javelin is 'bugd' to be 0 cost

[rapid pecan]

flat dmg always converts to teh dmg type the skill does

[radiant vortex]

but its also staying 0 for 1.2

[rapid pecan]

as far as i know

[analog tide]

like call of the tundra helmet for example

[radiant vortex]

so that means go go spam electrify

[ionic inlet]

Mike said they would correct it for the launch ^^

[analog tide]

it adds "+10-18 cold melee damage"

[ionic inlet]

Aka cost mana

[stable ice]

can someone take a look at my loot filter pls

[buoyant estuary]

I have seen no info or builds around it , was reading skills to make my own, its a pain on phone

[radiant vortex]

aww shucks

[slim spire]

Yeah that means you will deal an additional 10-18 cold dmg

[radiant vortex]

when did they change their mind D:

last posts I saw were about not switching it

[slim spire]

I just watched perry's vid

[radiant vortex]

eh whatever I'm spammin vengance to get mana back anyway it'll still work >_>

[slim spire]

Saying they won't fix it

[eternal dawn]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oYMVNDlo ok i'm mostly happy with this now

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (8) / Forge Guard (25) / Paladin (58)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Used skills:

• Multistrike (21)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Symbols of Hope (24)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• Jasper's Searing Pride
• Falcon Fists
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Titan Heart
• Sunwreath
• Throne of Ambition

[buoyant estuary]

True

[eternal dawn]

maybe i can find a way to slot in a 2nd sunwreath

it's just getting tight on resistances

[covert phoenix]

also

since multistrike is doing 5 hits and hh one

[arctic stone]

Any prebuild for fissure paladin lvling plz ?

[covert phoenix]

you can spec into the holy aura fireburst which also proc every hit

@eternal dawn

[slim spire]

Is this an item?

[rigid dragon]

Can someone confirm so I can let a mate know. COF and MG can you still do them with weaver stuff

[ionic inlet]

Sorry sorry false alarm they changed their mind, I didn't see it!

[covert phoenix]

no, it's holy aura

[ionic inlet]

Sorry didn't see they changed their mind

[buoyant estuary]

Thats nice

[radiant vortex]

woo victory

[eternal dawn]

that's gonna be nuts with siege barrage surely

[buoyant estuary]

But will it still be good enought dmg wise

[south zephyr]

Yeeeeessss

[radiant vortex]

now I can drop the 5 points I was gonna use anyway hey wait a second

[slim spire]

Oh ok, never had a paladin before. That's good to know

[radiant vortex]

like it being free is like 99% not at all the point

[ionic inlet]

Exactly Voodou 😄

[spring pollen]

Anyone used detonating ground on forge strike? I haven’t seen many people using it but looks like it would be an ok damage boost

[buoyant estuary]

Also what kinda class do u want to run for it? Paladin? The javelin trigger build

[eternal dawn]

yeah that'll be an extra ignite

[south zephyr]

Now you can weave Jav and Vengeance

Sick

[covert phoenix]

it's not insane because it's not melee, but it's still free damage for 1 point

[analog tide]

@slim spire for this multistrike forge strike minion build, would you prioritize manifest armor or healing hands levels on helmet?

[slim spire]

If you really have to choose between those 2, healing hands is better

[ionic inlet]

Is there a way to post a message with LEtools not popping up?

[haughty shadow]

Who else took vacation time for this?

[south zephyr]

Put it at the start of the message I think

[slim spire]

Me lol

[eternal dawn]

man a 100% more damage node on multistrike

i was so focused on rives pull

[analog tide]

@slim spire would this build proc healing hands with the melee node? I wouldnt need to do the seraph blade node for HH would I?

[slim spire]

There's a LOT of more stuff in multistrike tree btw

[radiant vortex]

why would I weave when I can just spam hit veng which trigger blade assaults and hh and hh off of the ba, which all trigger divine bolts and they all stack electrify

[south zephyr]

Oh NVM I'm doing a pure phys hit build not electrify

[radiant vortex]

19 + 40% for ~ 27 mana per javelin even if it cost mana you'd only need to hit 3 times with veng to get all mana back

[stable ice]

i tryd to merge 1 leveling filter with some rules of my endgame filter
does this look like itll work?

[slim spire]

You can combine both. I usually do

[radiant vortex]

I'd have more colours

[analog tide]

@slim spire can you explain why seraph blade would be needed? Wouldnt multistrike be proccing HH via the 100% melee node anyhow?

[eternal dawn]

yeah i'm focusing on max stacks, attack speed and damage. I'm hoping time and faith will be enough to keep my mana topped up while proccing healing hands

[slim spire]

Just extra damage

[radiant vortex]

make big upgrades pop out, early upgrades small text and noticable but not loud colour, etc. etc.

[stable ice]

theres more rules here

[eternal dawn]

i might actually turn healing hands into a move skill so i can have more uptime on frenzy from volatile reversal

[ionic inlet]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QnEP9KaA
Memebuild Hammer throw AURA : Mana Spender/Generator that would feel good.
For those who's interested in memes.

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (25) / Void Knight (63) / Forge Guard (25)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Physical / Melee, Spell, Throwing, DoT

Used skills:

• Hammer Throw (20)
• Smite (20)
• Shield Rush (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Devouring Orb (20)

Used unique items:

• Aberroth's Command
• Horns of Uhkeiros
• Devotion
• Carcinization of Momentum
• Brewmaster's Buckle
• The Inevitable
• Atrophy

[analog tide]

does it add to minion melee dmg too?

[slim spire]

Nope, it's just a nice to have thing

[radiant vortex]

now theres a god damn tech

[stable ice]

but it looks alright or? most of my endgame filters are the top ones

[slim spire]

Coz you have more than enough points with 20 for hh

That's why I don't recommend you going for +skills on fw build

You don't have any bottleneck in skill points generally

[radiant vortex]

forge strike really needs more nodes for the weapons themselves

[analog tide]

prioritize attunement then if i have to choose

[fringe fog]

yo the World Splitter only the lvl100 Harbinger drop ?

[analog tide]

on helm and chest

[narrow valley]

does anyone know in VR taking the node that makes the second jump also jump forward disables the "while you are able to jump backwards" nodes?

[knotty plover]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oNVnbmNo
thoughts on things i missed in terms of extra power for a build like this?

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Forge Guard (78) / Paladin (15)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee

Used skills:

• Multistrike (24)
• Forge Strike (29)
• Lunge (22)
• Ring Of Shields (24)
• Symbols of Hope (28)

Used unique items:

• Omnis
• Countenance of Majasa
• Phantom Grip
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Maehlin's Hubris
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Shattered Worlds

[slim spire]

Sure, you don't HAVE to go attunement unlike a vengeance build for example, you can maybe focus on crit multi/chance for example

[analog tide]

but wouldnt that be focusing on personal dmg when minions have higher potential output?

[slim spire]

I think as long as you're not converting to smite, it should be more than enough for bladestorm

[narrow valley]

dropped regardless of level and corr, just less likely

[slim spire]

I mean on your weapon

[analog tide]

oh yes ok

[slim spire]

Remember if you die, nothing else matters

Don't go crazy on minion damage if it means lower survivability

[warped blade]

What matters is emotional pain is gone

[slim spire]

Forged weapons come and go

[warped blade]

🙂

[slim spire]

But you only have 1 life

[rapid pecan]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/l41or0o7#1
this should come online pretty fast right ?

[ionic inlet]

I did a build for it, I think it can be very strong, just need devotion for it

[fringe fog]

Does the World Splitter only drop from level 100 Harbingers?

[slim spire]

Lunge? Wow. You should go Void Cleave for a shitton of flat damage.

[analog tide]

@slim spire phantom grip, sunwreath, orion rings. Which would be best for this build?

[slim spire]

2 phantom grips

Bis

They're the reason why you use falcon fists in the first place

[analog tide]

its all making sense now

https://tenor.com/view/talos-talosian-star-trem-star-trek-big-head-gif-12496470

[narrow valley]

anyone know if this node disables the "when you are able to travel backwards" nodes?

[radiant vortex]

it does

[eternal dawn]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QWJDN5dA ok i think i'm done with this. Even threw in a 1lp oceareon for good measure 😂

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (8) / Forge Guard (25) / Paladin (59)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Melee, Spell

Used skills:

• Multistrike (21)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Symbols of Hope (24)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• Jasper's Searing Pride
• Falcon Fists
• Fiery Dragon Shoes
• Titan Heart
• Sunwreath
• Oceareon
• Throne of Ambition

[eternal dawn]

I'll just level a bleed paladin until i get jaspers

or fire melee idk

[radiant vortex]

with 2 do you get 2x bonus from the gloves? <_<

I always assumed that mod don't stack

[astral lintel]

Is warpath VK a good starter? Thought about erasing strike but its basically a stat stacker and these are reliant on gear

[sinful basalt]

it's feasable but warpath early has poor scaling aka it'll be slower, it's better to transition into it

[slim spire]

They stack

[radiant vortex]

oh okay I hadth been making some suboptimal doodoo then

[astral lintel]

Any skill good for vk leveling ans early monos then?

[radiant vortex]

warpath automatin void casts should scale quite easily <_<

[sinful basalt]

hammer throw is probably one of the strognest options, but one can use flame trail javelin, rave, one can go inot smite (when ya get the smite vit stacking node)

[sinful basalt]

you need to be quite up there level wise to be able to start that

[buoyant estuary]

So i was thinking about the phalanx build, going forge guard ( you can use the node to wield the spear whit a shield bonus to all throw dmg nodes), stacking physical dmg, throw dmg, phisical shred and bleeds, i saw nodes in javelin and i think some pasived in skilltree that have more dmg for mana increasw but since its free theres no downside, also would u spec vengeance into the upper side to have 3 ripostes instead of 1 , also on base sentinel it has riposte nodes , seems like a legit build

[analog tide]

@slim spire what would be better in this build? Symbols or ring of shields?

[eternal dawn]

i can't wait to press holy aura for the 50% more ignite damage

[analog tide]

ive got botyh but need to drop 1 to get forge strike

[radiant vortex]

you get echoes 10 points in, then orb 5 after that and you're suddenly spinin and autobombin thru the echoes

[astral lintel]

Afaik hammer Throw was buffed in void version or am i trippin

[radiant vortex]

the base sentinel isn't riposte
yeah if you wanna trigger javelin go for more riposte nodes
sounds neat hf

[buoyant estuary]

Wasnt there idols to prock smite whit throws, and u can go void smite to mix whit void hammers

[slim spire]

Symbols

[buoyant estuary]

Yeh now that u can respec masgery its going to be more fun to build around, thanks

[sinful basalt]

you can yes but it's probably better to go hammer aura

[analog steppe]

The only problem I see with phalanx builds is it will be awful for bosses

[turbid dome]

Ye idols with smite on throwing hit

[slim spire]

The issue with building around riposte is bosses only attack you with hard but slow hits usually

[buoyant estuary]

Yes cuz u gotta be hit to prock and u dont want to be hit tjat mich by bosses

[analog steppe]

So don’t plan on beating uber abberoth with it lol

[slim spire]

So you are not going to output your full dps potential

[buoyant estuary]

Im dumb the skill from sentinel is retribution not riposte that u can trigger

[radiant vortex]

based on?

[waxen nymph]

InvoKer Fire Ring Set Shard is really good for Ignite

[radiant vortex]

like sure if you're doing nothing else than trying to riposte trigger javelin it'll suck

[buoyant estuary]

I tought riposte and retribution where the same skill feelsbad

[quiet onyx]

Hey there, any ideas about how well should perform Void Knight in 1.2 ?
I don't want to spoil myself with reading guides, and wanted to play a void/shadow theme class.
Though, i would prefer to know if i'm going for something bad ^^

[covert phoenix]

doctrine of the anvil is negative damage in multistrike

@eternal dawn

[waxen nymph]

Stronk

[eternal dawn]

not worth it for the extra hit?

[tiny mist]

whats the best slot to get flat mana regen?

[covert phoenix]

on a regular build, it's barely 5% damage, in your, it's 5% more damage AND -12% weapon stacks

go get the additional swords on kill

[waxen nymph]

Belt I would say

[buoyant estuary]

I wonder, how about adding hammers to the riposte javelin build as that one will use 0 mana amyway for extra dmg, might as well if u spec fogeeguard for throw dmg and shield whit 2hand?

[covert phoenix]

there is no such thing as flat mana regen

[waxen nymph]

OOps

Didnt see the Flat here

[eternal dawn]

Victory strikes?

[covert phoenix]

yes

[ionic inlet]

Can someone please play the void hammer aura so I can play the sigil bomba, I can't play both

[eternal dawn]

i was unsure if it'd count the ignite as it killing it

[tiny mist]

thats painful

[covert phoenix]

either get +1 level as sealed affix, or remove 5% attack speed

[neat sierra]

what's the best skill for mana generating to dump with forge strike spam

[narrow valley]

I mean as VK I'm too used to void essence mana regen that "flat mana regen" actually makes sense

[eternal dawn]

sealed affix is a shout

[south zephyr]

Vengeance or Javelin

[tiny mist]

so you can only boost your measily 8 mana p/s by % increases?