gonna be like 15 smites per second at end game
#🔱┃sentinel
wheat light
runic path
That’s some serious SPS
wheat light
not sure if I want to try smite mtx
alpine canopy
I like how every new patch it’s always back to smite
Always has been
wheat light
maxrolls is fine
topaz owl
maxroll doesn't have a rive levelling guide
it has a bastardized paladin judgement levelling guide
Ideally I want to level as void knight
still orbit
This game is gonna cook in szn 2. Imma cream daddi
dreamy sun
Just do the same thing but don't swap to javelin/judgement
Spec erasing strike instead of javelin and ur gucci
dreamy sun
Ye
cursive compass
VOID RIVE LETS GO
GIGA VOID KNIGHT DEFENSES
chat is this accurate
judgement paladin 0 deaths?
mystic isle
Maxroll tier list has been pretty crap in the past. Better off looking at builds on lastepochtools and making a judgement call on what looks good for HC for yourself
Anything sentinel with a shield will be a pretty safe bet for HC tho
hexed sky
The tier list is usually inaccurate, but i don't necessarily think the builds are 'bad'...
cursive compass
rip void knight 2h axe
dreamy sun
Judgement pally being at the top of that one is prob accurate with how much healing it gets
grim kestrel
AFAIK maxroll were the only ones heavily testing on ptr it should be pretty accurate
analog steppe
*not a ptr
analog steppe
call it CT program, the acronym ptr usually stands for public
south zephyr
Was a joke
slim spire
call it CT program, the acronym ptr usually stands for public
Ct = closed test?
cosmic kelp
Ct = closed test?
Community testers
slim spire
Community testers
How do ehg choose them?
pearl geyser
can triggered abilities echo?
cold glacier
Judgement pally being at the top of that one is prob accurate with how much heal...
in the stacking version just step outside the aoe and die 😂
slim spire
So what are you guys going 1st for weaver? I was initially thinkin loot lizards, but I usually get most of my upgrades from Nemesis, so idk really. Probably just both.
south zephyr
Memory amber, just spec all the memory amber
slim spire
Plus the fact that Nemesis drops have 0 required level mean they're more expensive to sell
south zephyr
Then build out towards what you want
inland quarry
my first weavers will be champions warlords riches
will buy a T7 off trade, and then imprint it hoping that it will drop the T7 sealed, on a good base, with another T7 affix
slim spire
Memory amber, just spec all the memory amber
I'm just concerned if the progress is long-term, meaning you don't max out the tree until super late game. So you basically spent most of your endgame farming ambers instead of actually getting w/e you want
south zephyr
I'm just concerned if the progress is long-term, meaning you don't max out the t...
More amber, more woven echoes, more woven echoes more weaver skill points
orchid flint
so for leveling which is faster hammers or rive? i was leveling a bit with hammers and it was pretty comfy but idk if rive is faster
inland quarry
hammers for me
slim spire
will buy a T7 off trade, and then imprint it hoping that it will drop the T7 sea...
Wait you can get sealed through imprinting? That's awesome
slim spire
so for leveling which is faster hammers or rive? i was leveling a bit with hamme...
1 weapon dependent 1 not
If you have dreamthorn for example, rive is faster
orchid flint
ahh i see so for league start hammers is probably the play
inland quarry
Wait you can get sealed through imprinting? That's awesome
yup
i personally use forged weapons to level
they're cheap and do a TON of damage, especialy single target damage without needing to use the forgeguard node.
slim spire
i personally use forged weapons to level
Same. Vengeance or MS?
inland quarry
warpath
slim spire
Oh ok
inland quarry
that way i just keep spinning and avoid dmg
slim spire
that way i just keep spinning and avoid dmg
Do you run manifest armor btw?
inland quarry
if there is nothing else yea
south zephyr
Feels odd on reflection that more builds don't use MA as a filler since it inherits your stats
slim spire
People have been talking about it, but I don't know what exactly is the best equipment to use to buff him up
lilac sparrow
Mfw the entire sentinel rework is basically VK upgrade
slim spire
Feels odd on reflection that more builds don't use MA as a filler since it inher...
For fw based, your equipment is mostly minion stuff which doesn't get inherited. Or tankability. For non fw based, you don't run minion stuff so your MA dies fast/tickle enemies. That's my thinking anyway
inland quarry
now that I think about it, manifest armor should be pretty damn op now that you can equip a 2h+shield to trigger it
slim spire
I heard about the firebreathing build, but you really need to build around MA for that one
slim spire
now that I think about it, manifest armor should be pretty damn op now that you ...
Why's that? Additional shield = only +tankability right
lilac sparrow
For fw based, your equipment is mostly minion stuff which doesn't get inherited....
Pretty sure forged weapons inherit your weapon stats
inland quarry
but before, you were never able to use a 2H weapon while triggering manifest armor
manifest armor also has your weapon stats so....
slim spire
but before, you were never able to use a 2H weapon while triggering manifest arm...
? Ofc you can
slim spire
Pretty sure forged weapons inherit your weapon stats
Ya I mean you already have 12/15 of them, so 1 more doesn't matter that much especially taking up a skill slot
south zephyr
Why's that? Additional shield = only +tankability right
Also all of your chest/gloves/boots/helmet at 240% efficiency
slim spire
Also all of your chest/gloves/boots/helmet at 240% efficiency
Yes I get that, but what are you wearing exactly for him to boost?
south zephyr
HP and resistances probably
Just seems like there should be some use case
Ehhhh maybe they'll make him an aura bot one day like PoE
south zephyr
Can he get a taunt I can't remember
south zephyr
Hmmm maybe if I ever have a free slot
slim spire
Tbh they don't actually need to change MA
south zephyr
Ehh who I am I kidding I never do
slim spire
They only need to make an equipment with inheritable aura or something
south zephyr
Tbh they don't actually need to change MA
Oh I just meant allow him to inherit more uniques
Like a Volcanus MA would be hilarious
alpine canopy
There's those boots that give a crazy amount of crit multi, also amazing bleed stats on body/helm
slim spire
Like a Volcanus MA would be hilarious
Exactly, he'll be redeemed in my eyes if he can proc stuff properly
slim spire
There's those boots that give a crazy amount of crit multi, also amazing bleed s...
Can you give some example uniques please? I'm always looking to boost my MA
south zephyr
Patch notes: Manifest Armor now inherits more Unique effects and those effects scale with your skill tree where appropriate.
Instant #1 summon in the game and completely brokenly OP
alpine canopy
Can you give some example uniques please? I'm always looking to boost my MA
The boots are the example unique, suloron's I think? The bleed stats are just regular affixes
polar spire
@sharp osprey i saw your post in ask the devs about Torkrefin, this is a new node in vengeance, aka, you can stack phys resist to get pen off both this and tork's
alpine canopy
Falcon fist is also pretty solid for MA/FW
slim spire
Falcon fist is also pretty solid for MA/FW
Ya but you already get FF from Phantom Grips
sharp osprey
<@225931843671687168> i saw your post in ask the devs about Torkrefin, this is a...
👀 PER OVERCAPPED!?!?
Oh this is gonna be splendid.
polar spire
👀 PER OVERCAPPED!?!?
Oh this is gonna be splendid.
correct me if im wrong, but is that what double dipping is?
slim spire
👀 PER OVERCAPPED!?!?
Oh this is gonna be splendid.
Wait do you tend to overcapped phys res? I thought that's the hardest to get
polar spire
2 seperate things benefitting off phys pen based on phys resist
sharp osprey
Wait do you tend to overcapped phys res? I thought that's the hardest to get
I think I had like 150% phys on my lv 84 sentinel.
polar spire
Wait do you tend to overcapped phys res? I thought that's the hardest to get
you can reach it pretty easily if you wanna T5 every slot with it + passives, lmao
you can reach around 500%
alpine canopy
Ya but you already get FF from Phantom Grips
I'm not sure what you mean, it's just a good glove unique to combo with MA or FWs using phantom grip
slim spire
Interesting
slim spire
I'm not sure what you mean, it's just a good glove unique to combo with MA or FW...
I mean you don't need MA to abuse FF
sharp osprey
Wait do you tend to overcapped phys res? I thought that's the hardest to get
for reference, torkrefin does per uncapped. Which maxes out at like 75?
But this is build enabling right here.
polar spire
i was making a build off it earlier, 8900 health, tork's vengeance, ran Grimoire of Necrotic Elixirs because bad resists, and i had 20k ehp across the board, and I used lunge missing health for self healing
south zephyr
I just hate that FG only have 2 useful affixes off class 😭
south zephyr
for reference, torkrefin does per uncapped. Which maxes out at like 75?
But thi...
Uncapped means EVERYTHING
not up to 75%
sharp osprey
i was making a build off it earlier, 8900 health, tork's vengeance, ran Grimoire...
Oh, that's a good idea.
I just happen to have a 2lp grimore of necrotic elixirs.
polar spire
for reference, torkrefin does per uncapped. Which maxes out at like 75?
But thi...
uncapped includes everything above 0%, overcapped is above 75%
hexed sky
The new node (or changed node?) on Paladin which stacks Bleed Duration per Endurance seems really strong too.
sharp osprey
Uncapped means EVERYTHING
Oh fr?
south zephyr
Yuuup
slim spire
Yes
sharp osprey
Nice.
south zephyr
Super important distinction
alpine canopy
I mean you don't need MA to abuse FF
Sure, but I think most uniques and gear you use for MA can be used in other builds, too
south zephyr
Very often misunderstood
polar spire
i also wonder if they changed uncapped to overcapped because of that
south zephyr
Sure, but I think most uniques and gear you use for MA can be used in other buil...
Original discussion was why not just Slap on MA as a 5th filler skill
south zephyr
i also wonder if they changed uncapped to overcapped because of that
Did they change it everywhere, cause I think it means something different
As in only above 75%
polar spire
The new node (or changed node?) on Paladin which stacks Bleed Duration per Endur...
yea threshold if you put some dodge in build and run mountain boots, haha
sharp osprey
i also wonder if they changed uncapped to overcapped because of that
Would you still use forge strike for this build?
I was thinking of going that route w/ boulderfists (iirc that name)
polar spire
Would you still use forge strike for this build?
I was thinking of going that ro...
this was on a paladin
only paladin can reliably reach the amount of health i had on the build
can you do it with forge strike? sure, but forge strike wants more stun chance
like T7 stun chance
hexed sky
yea threshold if you put some dodge in build and run mountain boots, haha
Use Close Call with it for 40% increased dodge every time you block
polar spire
Would you still use forge strike for this build?
I was thinking of going that ro...
boulderfists don't work
its %inc stun only, melee stun sadly doesnt count
sharp osprey
its %inc stun only, melee stun sadly doesnt count
it doesn't? I've been hearing mixed things on that.
polar spire
i tested it ages ago
sharp osprey
if it doesn't that definitely changes my plan
polar spire
forged strike is my main bleed build
sharp osprey
Ah crap, thanks for the info
polar spire
nothing like popping 8 mill abyssal echoes bleed pops thanks to forge strike
slim spire
forged strike is my main bleed build
Do you play fs with cd or without?
polar spire
Do you play fs with cd or without?
without
hexed sky
What's the best bleed applicator ability for Paladin?
slim spire
If without how do you sustain the mana
polar spire
i use javelin to drop forge strikes mana down by 20
i say this
all the time
so many times
no one listens
JAVELIN
ITS SO GOOD
sharp osprey
nothing like popping 8 mill abyssal echoes bleed pops thanks to forge strike
🤔 I'm thinking of doing Forge strike, with tork and that one shield that grants mana on block.
unless you don't have mana issues with that build?
slim spire
LOL
south zephyr
🤔 I'm thinking of doing Forge strike, with tork and that one shield that grants...
Javelin Mana Cost reduction
polar spire
60% more damage and -20 mana cost
south zephyr
It's 'The Beef™️'
sharp osprey
Javelin Mana Cost reduction
😔 but then I'm using javelin.
polar spire
though you can also run multistrike forgestrike just as well, and it uses off cd forge strikes so you can weave in on cd forge strikes during it
slim spire
i use javelin to drop forge strikes mana down by 20
How do you play it? Left click javelin, right click fs? Then repeat?
polar spire
How do you play it? Left click javelin, right click fs? Then repeat?
yeeeeup
sometimes i take ranged forge strike and play it all at range
its a lot of fun with xithara's amulet, nothing hits you so free 30% more phys
slim spire
Muh 1 button build 
slim spire
sometimes i take ranged forge strike and play it all at range
Ok this feels a lot better I think
Also it's probably going to feel even better with wasd
polar spire
Also it's probably going to feel even better with wasd
oh yea 100%
sharp osprey
oh yea 100%
btw what would you slam on a 1LP torkrefin?
polar spire
though you can also run multistrike forgestrike just as well, and it uses off cd...
@sharp osprey i see those eyes, multistrike forge strike is pretty basic/standard, you run 5/5 time and faith for the 10 mana on hit, and then Fiery Justice in multistrike to forge strike every 4th armament stack, which time and faith covers the 40 mana cost of, and thanks to base 8 mana regen, you can freely weave on cd forge strikes during it
polar spire
btw what would you slam on a 1LP torkrefin?
if you're going to focus on forge strike, T7 %inc stun chance, if you're going to run vengeance.... well that's up to you
for tork's, its either jav forge strike, multistrike forge strike, or vengeance
sharp osprey
if you're going to focus on forge strike, T7 %inc stun chance, if you're going t...
🤔 I'm still pretty early into end game, but I have a T6 flat phys damage, and a t6 stun chance.
Vengeance might be something to look into tho since that new node looks so spicy.
hexed sky
Are there any cool interactions people have found with 2-handers + shield that will only work with Forge Guard?
south zephyr
Join me in the silly FG Javelin/Vengeance/Shield Throw build
polar spire
🤔 I'm still pretty early into end game, but I have a T6 flat phys damage, and a...
ima go out on a limb and assume riposte and iron blade both also benefit from that phys pen node in vengeance, so thats 3 hits making use of it per vengeance
south zephyr
Sigeons Reprisal+Phalanx
polar spire
Are there any cool interactions people have found with 2-handers + shield that w...
bigdick crit multi 2h sword/spear with T7 crit multi slammed on, and then bulwark of the abyss for even more crit multi
south zephyr
Every time something taps you you throw 6 Javelins at it and throw your shield at its fave
polar spire
think i hit around 950% crit multi just messing around with it
south zephyr
The shield then gives you 200% Armor and 40% Phys Pen and you whack it with more Javelins
polar spire
Sigeons Reprisal+Phalanx
dont forget your auto heartseeker helm
and smite throw idols
south zephyr
No
polar spire
and meteor belt so we can constantly be at 0 mana
south zephyr
🗞️🗞️🗞️
quiet hearth
we dont talk about base sent axe throw
hexed sky
bigdick crit multi 2h sword/spear with T7 crit multi slammed on, and then bulwar...
When Forge Guard says shield, does it mean only Shield or also Catalysts?
sharp osprey
dont forget your axe throw gloves
I'm still sad that phantom grip doesn't give your minions the ability to throw axes with those gloves.
polar spire
only shield
south zephyr
Only shield
hexed sky
that's what i figured 😦
south zephyr
we dont talk about base sent axe throw
Good for smite proc WP, that's it
polar spire
i wonder if vk warpath echoes use base sent axe throw
sharp osprey
When Forge Guard says shield, does it mean only Shield or also Catalysts?
2h with catalyst would be fun.
south zephyr
i wonder if vk warpath echoes use base sent axe throw
Forbidden Question
polar spire
i know echoes will shoot out axes if you use vortex pennant
orchid flint
is there a good loot filter for hammer leveling out there?
safe gust
how crazy would it be for me to steal this and make it into an ES build while maintaining the crit rate?
slim spire
ima go out on a limb and assume riposte and iron blade both also benefit from th...
Do iron blade get changed to fire if you take the fire conversion node?
quiet hearth
I literally was about to ask that
short viper
how crazy would it be for me to steal this and make it into an ES build while ma...
I played a version like this on release when HH ward was really strong, it should work alright but i'm not 100% sure the investment is worth it
but i think you can get ward retention and ward per second on the new idol mods
which should help a lot
flint inlet
How does orian's descent interact with julra's stardial if I put int on stardial so that casting Volatile reversal causes me to cause int threshold of orian's descent?
cross threshold*
south zephyr
How does orian's descent interact with julra's stardial if I put int on stardial...
Crash to Desktop
Kidding, no idea
flint inlet
so my real question is VR void just before I cast and then if I drink potion to cast it again...now it is fire?
safe gust
I played a version like this on release when HH ward was really strong, it shoul...
is that needed for erasing strike?
short viper
is that needed for erasing strike?
i won't lie to you, i'm just cooked, I thought you meant energy shield lmao
paper sonnet
How hard is to level with warpath?
short viper
but, erasing strike
lucid crag
are you allowed erasing strike with a sceptre
short viper
are you allowed erasing strike with a sceptre
there's a unique item that allows this that i think is a sceptre
short viper
oh wait, erasing strike is fine with a sceptre
i was thinking of void cleave, sorry again
lucid crag
I don't even know if erasing strike is gonna matter too much when decimate kills everything maybe
maybe I can eke out more dps with void beams
quiet hearth
did we ever get an answer about iron blades converting? I dont think it does
alpine canopy
Do iron blade get changed to fire if you take the fire conversion node?
Yes
quiet hearth
glorious
lucid crag
chewy
quiet hearth
we need more blessings
crude matrixBOT
hexed sky
If you're using World splitter i feel like you should be mana stacking, but maybe that's just me
short viper
thoughts? https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ6v8vrB
with mana restore from volatile reversal gone, the method to sustain attack speed ES basically doesn't exist
cloud flume
Whats the meta prediction for sentinel?
short viper
this guy had a 30s aberroth kill with erasing strike, the guide is probably a really good place to start
short viper
Whats the meta prediction for sentinel?
2h and shield forge guard is simply goated, i'm having trouble justifying VK to myself while it exists - but paladin classically has the most innovators so I can see something there blowing up
silk cedar
2/3 time loop (150 mana cost) with < 250 max mana is ambitious yeah
cloud flume
2h and shield forge guard is simply goated, i'm having trouble justifying VK to ...
Whatttt my fav class is gonna be epic? hell yea
lovedddd the minions idea of it
Forgeguard was so much fun
short viper
yeah FG got lovebombed after years of neglect
keen rock
I've been wondering if that new Vengeance Spear + Vengeance summoning Forged Weapons might be good but idk. Maybe? hard to say.
hallow knoll
Idk if I agree with FG being better but you really can't go wrong with Sentinel this patch
cloud flume
No way im missing out on this for FG
hallow knoll
All 3 are fantastic
silk cedar
judgement aura seems pretty decent imo, can get a few million dps that just follows you around, and you're super tanky
I'm probably gonna go erasing strike though
keen rock
judgement seems bananas
hallow knoll
Judgement is the best hardcore build that's for sure
cloud flume
i wanna drop a fat hammer, summon weps, and have them duke it out on mobs
keen rock
even with just like.. 400 mana, the proper aura build is getting to about 7900% added damage per second in the aura
cloud flume
its such a freakin high for me lol
silk cedar
like 1k hp regen, max block, good armor, lots of other DR
hallow knoll
I could never enjoy Judgement because the mapping experience isn't fun but it's a great build
short viper
broadly it's very difficult to consider the implications of everyone being able to guarantee t7 1 mod legendary items , a lot of things were really not worth considering due to the odds on getting the rare mod onto the rare item
silk cedar
If you attunement stack (which you probably want to do anyways), you can unequip weapon using the judgement gloves to get beeg aoe
and with the aura node it should be very good mapping
the build that doesn't pick aura node to try and stack consecrated grounds for more ST dps seems like bait though imo
keen rock
eh, I think the judgement gloves make the aura worse, actually
silk cedar
for better dps you want gloves + weapon (just because you can get 3lp with fire pen + attunement)
for map clear you can unequip wep and get aoe
sudden sigil
ive seen people practicing judgement stacking...the bosses it matters for all just jump around too much to stack and you almost never get the healing from it
aura superior
polar spire
if you run judgement slam you run unarmed with the gloves, if you run aura, you use a wand or sceptre, unarmed is bad on aura
keen rock
The area from gloves is nice, but you don't ened the reduced mana cost (in fact, it's bad), or the melee damage, or the cooldown
hallow knoll
I would love to have a huge Judgement aura that feels good to clear with, dunno if the dps would be good for a setup like that tho
safe gust
with mana restore from volatile reversal gone, the method to sustain attack spee...
yeah, we're getting mana from voidwell from devouring orb and our crits with ES also give us procs for voidwell
keen rock
Oh right, lol, I misunderstood
silk cedar
you only unequip weapon for clearing if you want the extra aoe
safe gust
If you're using World splitter i feel like you should be mana stacking, but mayb...
I think you're right, so I edited it : https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKlG0nGQ
crude matrixBOT
silk cedar
otherwise the gloves are just 2 good stats on top of 3 (maybe even 4) lp
sudden sigil
you can get 50% area from void knight tree now for judgement
polar spire
yea those gloves are easy to get 3/4 lp on, and you can actually find them stupid early in a lvl 10-15 chest room
in the campaign
keen rock
I hadn't considered that. I was looking at Atrophy, but honestly who needs it, weapon+judgegloves legit is better. Thanks for pointing that out
I guess atrophy is fine until you get the gloves, but you should get the gloves pretty quick
much quicker than atrophy unless you have just
silk cedar
the gloves are a common level 24 drop with level 16 effective level for LP
pearl geyser
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/smite-void-knight-guide do you guys think this would be a good start? maybe use palarus's while leveling for additional clear?
keen rock
the wildest luck
sudden sigil
eh id rather have bear set on eternal base since damage is already so high,
hexed sky
your tree need to take Future Mind for the mana recovery on echo and Void Well maybe as well...not sure if it's worth it, but getting Crushing Blows in Forge guard might be nice. It's a big point investment though
silk cedar
if you're using consecrated ground aura bear set doesn't really do anything?
you don't want str, you want attunement
sudden sigil
30 str is alot of armor and a bit of damage for just putting in a few sealed affixes
silk cedar
it's 0 damage
sudden sigil
dont need more damage, i need to not die
polar spire
Or you play the insanely stupid judgement build i cooked up, where judgement hit does 0 damage, and aura is removed from it LOL
keen rock
not dying is ez, just don't be where the damage is. its like flying, just throw yourself at the ground and miss
polar spire
16 attune is gonna be like 2% more damage
Attune also gives mana
silk cedar
nah it's a lot
64% increased damage
12.8 flat damage
mana for some % more damage
polar spire
And you run a fair chunk of % mana
silk cedar
and the penetration too
dense spindle
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/smite-void-knight-guide do you guys t...
if you go for wand + sword might as well just try multistrike smite vk
sudden sigil
yeah i know but you wont get 4 lp so probably gonna lose more mana than you get
silk cedar
oh and you have other attunement scaling nodes, 2% hp regen per attunement & 7 endurance threshold per 2 attunement
polar spire
Here @silk cedar play this one i cooked up at some point, lol https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKlK3pXQ
crude matrixBOT
silk cedar
nah 16 attunement is one of the best mods you can get, and fire pen is huge
sudden sigil
its not that much when you already have like 150-200%
silk cedar
where are you getting 200% fire pen?
keen rock
so I spent some time (too much) trying to find the "best" ability to stack time rot and I still think it might be smite tbh. Manual devouring orb can get some decent numbers, but it requires like.. 10s of set up to get to those numbers, and a bit of maneuvering. Smite is just cast it and you apply a 250% more damage time rot per 100% ignite, and so on.
cursive compass
vengeance can now be converted to void?
its joever
25% free damage reduction
void knight login
keen rock
vengeance seems quite good, and I've never used iron blades. Are iron blades okay now?
short viper
i can't really picture vengeance doing acceptable damage
keen rock
it does rely on block/parry/newspear I think
polar spire
vengeance can now be converted to void?
Yea, ES builds on bosses are happy, since it riposte is setup for 2s, so you can vengeance, es, vengeance, and for 2s after vengeance, riposte is protecting you with a DR buff against next hit
keen rock
Well, unless you're doing ailment, maybe
orchid flint
whats everyone going tomorrow? cof or trade?
keen rock
I'm doing CoF, I just have more fun
polar spire
whats everyone going tomorrow? cof or trade?
Full group, all going CoF
sudden sigil
tree gives like 130% fire pen, rest from idols and weapon
silk cedar
tree gives like 50-70 not 130
orchid flint
Full group, all going CoF
Nice. I’m loot horder so mg for me
silk cedar
20% from aura
short viper
ES is possibly one of the best bossing skills because you move freely in between doing damage. I don't think i'll be able to kill uber aberroth with rive even with all the buffs, just because of where i have to be to deal damage
silk cedar
pen idols aren't even that good
polar spire
Theres that new healing effect to fire pen passive
keen rock
Yeah but it's 100->1
polar spire
Yeaaaaaa
orchid flint
ES is possibly one of the best bossing skills because you move freely in between...
btw snap was talking about how his es build in the ct build was doing 150 million dps but he still couldn't kill uber abbertoth
polar spire
Paladins get around 1500% if i remember right
tired sorrel
Nice. I’m loot horder so mg for me
do you mean like it costs you more in stash tab space for CoF vs selling in MG?
keen rock
Man you gotta really be focusing it for 1500, but even still, that's 15%
polar spire
Vk's that run echo healing hands to slam 3 healing hands per hit, can get around 950%
orchid flint
do you mean like it costs you more in stash tab space for CoF vs selling in MG?
no means i just sell it
silk cedar
so that's 10% pen
it's 100 -> 5 so more like 50-70
sudden sigil
you can get 2000% which is 100% pen
cerulean sorrel
Sorry if this has been asked, but i couldnt find an answer. Anyone know if the Anomaly node Void Touched, acts as if +100% chance for time rot for the purposes of the Void Knight passive node Rot Grip?
keen rock
I overlooked the scaling, I was looking at the 1 point effect and for some reason thought it was a.. uhh.. the one where you put 5 points in to get it
forgot the word
sudden sigil
im just t7 healing full
polar spire
Sorry if this has been asked, but i couldnt find an answer. Anyone know if the A...
It might not be a known thing yet till we all get in to play it
short viper
btw snap was talking about how his es build in the ct build was doing 150 millio...
that's pretty crazy, i guess we will probably need some cracked DoT build to make it happen
if only i cared about dots
keen rock
I've never actually fought aberroth, does he have an enrage?
polar spire
I've never actually fought aberroth, does he have an enrage?
Are you asking so you can play a Quin Zdps build?
keen rock
maybe
orchid flint
that's pretty crazy, i guess we will probably need some cracked DoT build to mak...
i think the problem will be mechanics and dodging more one shots possibly
keen rock
maybe I just wanna hang out with him for a few hours
if neither of us can kill each other it'll be like I have a buddy to chill with
polar spire
maybe I just wanna hang out with him for a few hours
That was my old numlock autocast focus build on sorc, i would run up to T4 julra, numlock focus, and then leave my pc for 15-20 min to the kitchen to make food
keen rock
haha
keen rock
It seems cool
Shame it got nerfed
Or maybe its not
idk I don't have a point of reference really
polar spire
What, did they meteor belt it?
keen rock
capped it from 3/s to 1/s iirc
But added 10% more ms
and also made it so you have 50% less mana regen and 50% less armor, actually
polar spire
3/s what?
polar spire
Oh i would actually run channeled LB to remove it from being casted, LB would actually turbo nerf my build
keen rock
I clearly have no idea what's going on with your build, and I love it
polar spire
I clearly have no idea what's going on with your build, and I love it
Theres a talent that'll grant your next cast +16% flat crit, and if you channel focus, it'll stay up the whole channel, but if a LB goes off, it'll consume the buff
keen rock
ah
polar spire
Was something like 100% crit, 700 flat lightning, and 800% crit multi
Mana amulet letting me move during that sounds great
keen rock
Yeah I feel like any channeled skill that can't move is kind in a rough place in ARPGs in general. It either needs to be crazy good or it's gonna be pretty bad, but because of the 'not moving' downside.
inland quarry
would be nice if you can move while in riposte is being channeled, and riposte had no cooldown.
dense spindle
riposte channeled? what did i miss?
keen rock
wait is riposte a channel? I assumed it was a buff
dense spindle
did you want to say rebuke?
orchid flint
im just so tempted to replay electric smite healing hands that build was so fun and now the judgment of storm probably makes the build even more broken
polar spire
You can vengeance a target and then riposte will be at the ready to protect you from the next hit for 2s, so you can vengeance and use other skills during that 2s knowing its there to protect you
keen rock
I got so confused for a moment there
alpine canopy
Sorry if this has been asked, but i couldnt find an answer. Anyone know if the A...
It does not, it just applies one stack of time rot
keen rock
I hope fissure is actually fixed
tired sorrel
what was wrong with fissure?
orchid flint
it was bugged
cerulean sorrel
It does not, it just applies one stack of time rot
ty ❤️ that decides anomly vs holy symbol build for me than easy
keen rock
well the patch notes claim it got corrected from 36% per second to 200% per second, and according to several sources (including Dammitt) lastepochtools is datamined and should be up to date, but still claims it's doing 36% per second
so either it's a typo internally, or not actually fixed, apparently
(from the patch notes)
Fissure’s description has been clarified to state it lasts 3 seconds (incorrectly stated 5), has 200% added damage effectiveness per second (incorrectly stated 36%), and that it consumes mana when triggered (rather than having a mana cost).
tired sorrel
casting void beam on smite will be pretty cool i suppose too
analog steppe
so I spent some time (too much) trying to find the "best" ability to stack time ...
the setup isn't as bad as you think, 8 orbs for maximum power and you have automatic echos after VR, so you basically go VR-orb-VR-orb-VR-orb-VR-orb to generate 8 of them, then throw down the orb to consume them
you can also go for less than 8 orbs, since 5,6,7 orbs are all pretty close in damage to the maximum of 8 just for a slightly smaller area than the screenwide bomb that 8 gets you
keen rock
I guess? But each orb can only benefit from getting younger once. Will that be enough?
analog steppe
the orbs last much longer than they need to, shouldnt have any problem keeping them up until you want to consume
duration is 10s x 1.4 x 1.2 = ~16.some seconds + another 4 from the younger part
keen rock
hmm
analog steppe
if you cant get 8 orbs out in that amount of time, then what are you spending your time doing?
slim spire
How hard is to level with warpath?
Not hard, but hammer is easier
keen rock
I suppose if you're alternating VR's between orbs that might be okay?
analog steppe
yeah you should be, because each VR guarantees the next orb is 2 orbs made
keen rock
wait what, did I miss something in VR
Oh
from the cdr
I thought you were suggesting it would automatically make a second one
analog steppe
Reclaimed Action, when you travel at least 4m your next direct melee attack or spell is guaranteed to echo
keen rock
Oh
that too
huh
Didn't even think of that, clever
Yeah, maybe not as bad as I thought then, I was wrong
quiet hearth
The more dmg from chaining hammers would also apply to dots they inflict yeah?
analog steppe
it does yes, but hammers still aren't as strong as the orb mores i think
quiet hearth
I just wanna check out ignite hammers again is all
slim spire
whats everyone going tomorrow? cof or trade?
Mg here, academically interested in the effect of tax on item prices
analog steppe
the biggest hammer more for ailments previously got nerfed to hit only
keen rock
oh it did?
analog steppe
the chance to deal double damage got changed to hits
keen rock
I thought that was always the case
quiet hearth
so did I
analog steppe
was it? could be wrong on it being a change then
regardless, chaining doesnt do ailments as well as spiral anyways
quiet hearth
I dont see that change in the patch notes
analog steppe
so even with the extra more i think spiraling is better for ignite
quiet hearth
Probobly, but that doesnt mean I wont try it anyway
analog steppe
hmm
interesting...
the patch notes specify that the chaining effect is a "more hit" but the tools and datamines doesnt have hit in the text
quiet hearth
Well that is an issue
analog steppe
vs this text
quiet hearth
Right, that is definitely conflicting
keen rock
So I've never actually used Abyssal Echoes before. The "Screaming Rifts" node (Abyssal Echoes now creates an Abyssal Rift at the target location that casts Abyssal Echoes for you 3 times), does that trigger the "Directly using.." from Embrace the Darkness/Nether Coating
quiet hearth
I dont think so, as I understand it only the initial burst does
because otherwise the ignite nodes would be so good
keen rock
tsk that's exactly what I was thinking, too
quiet hearth
the still inherit all your other ignite stuff, so they can add a decent amount of stacks
keen rock
Because abyssal echoes can get 80% more and 40% more and if you can make it actually hit (Potent Corruption), and remove the cooldown, you could get 5 hits of effectively 250% more damage per cast. Then you just need ailment chance.
urban moon
What do people think of the new rework for sentinel?
keen rock
looks fun
quiet hearth
potent corruption only affects the initial one sadly
keen rock
what a shame.
urban moon
Haven't really played since my playthrough at release and was waiting to play again after the rework. Sentinel for life!
quiet hearth
Anything on that tree that says initial burst, will work that way. I honestly think it should be removed, it's old design and doesnt fit with the reworks the other skills have
slim spire
Is this boots really -phys res??
keen rock
yarp
urban moon
Are ward builds still overpowered or did they get nerfed?
keen rock
health got buffed, ward got nerfed, numbers seem fine
urban moon
Nice
keen rock
eh, maybe to some people?
quiet hearth
eh, it's not that hard to get around honestly
keen rock
certain builds can get tons of damage from multi
slim spire
How is res calculated again? Max 75, min?
alpine canopy
No minimum res
cursive compass
VK seems pretty bossy for void themed enemies
man its so hard
forge guard and vk seems to have pretty good defenses
keen rock
it all seems very good
cursive compass
what do
keen rock
coin flip
alpine canopy
it does yes, but hammers still aren't as strong as the orb mores i think
Right, chaining hammers are decently good for time rot still. Shield rush isn't a ton lower than 8-dorb thing and significantly simpler, too.
alpine canopy
So how good is this really?
Very, also it just got a bit of a buff
It's the cornerstone of pretty much every MA build that isn't forge breath
slim spire
Very, also it just got a bit of a buff
Ooo nice
slim spire
It's the cornerstone of pretty much every MA build that isn't forge breath
Do you have a sample build?
Also does anyone know if above triggers double smite?
quiet hearth
it should, you just replaced your swords with smites
keen rock
Eh, I'd guess it still only smites one time
slim spire
it should, you just replaced your swords with smites
Ya but a youtuber said it doesn't trigger double smite
So has anyone tested it this patch?
keen rock
Because you're replacing the swords with a different weapon doing a different attack, not hitting with twice as many swords
and the patch isn't out yet
alpine canopy
Do you have a sample build?
Not on hand, no. But if you find any melee crit or bleed MA builds, they'll probably use that tech
keen rock
Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah, it's been there for a while
slim spire
Smite conversion as well
alpine canopy
I don't think it makes double smites, but I don't remember for sure tbh
keen rock
Yeah, multistrike smite has been a thing, I suspect someone would have probably noticed? But maybe it's worth testing sometime.
keen rock
Typically no
keen rock
If a skill doesn't have a skill tree, it often gets the benefit of the skill that casts it (these are called subskills). If it DOES have its own tree, it instead just uses that
slim spire
Ok makes sense
quiet hearth
flat mana cost and reductions are done after any mana efficiency correct?
alpine canopy
flat mana cost and reductions are done after any mana efficiency correct?
Before, like damage calcs (+/- first, then multipliers)
alpine canopy
Time and faith is great, but when it doesn't fit in the build it do be rough
quiet hearth
It doesnt, Im seeing how far I could push abyssal echo ignite
alpine canopy
Oh yeah, AE eats mana
quiet hearth
If I've done my math right I need 27/sec to keep up with casting once a second, and that's doable I think with the right gear
alpine canopy
And if you go full fire then you also lose out on void spell efficiency idols
quiet hearth
I forget those are a thing
alpine canopy
Yeah, 27 is definitely doable
quiet hearth
I wish they would update AE for it's riders to not apply just to the initial cast
Ok, so I need those efficiency idols hands down
paper sonnet
How shit is to lvl with warpath?
scenic gyro
It's good enough with few points invested
jaunty acorn
How shit is to lvl with warpath?
just level with hammer and switch around 50
hexed sky
it works fine. movement speed can feel a bit slow until you get some specc'd. make sure you grab the channel cost reduction nodes and it'll feel easier to use
paper sonnet
just level with hammer and switch around 50
Nah
quiet hearth
pretty much once you get the mana cost managable, it'sfine
paper sonnet
Hate hammer
jaunty acorn
fair
quiet hearth
it's not the most damaging but being able to move and attack is very nice that early
paper sonnet
Sweet
quiet hearth
anyone gonna try out smelters now?
sharp osprey
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ6vJGjB
rough draft for my fg, feedback would be awesome. 
crude matrixBOT
alpine canopy
anyone gonna try out smelters now?
Vaguely considering doing an axe volley dex stacker, if that counts
hearty mulch
Anyone thinking of running Manifest Armor?
spring pollen
Sorry if said already but do we know what time the s2 drop is?
sharp osprey
Sorry if said already but do we know what time the s2 drop is?
noon est tmr.
or er, 12 hours exactly from now.
spring pollen
Awesome tyvm
sharp osprey
Anyone thinking of running Manifest Armor?
I'm not, but it might be decent.
scenic gyro
Vaguely considering doing an axe volley dex stacker, if that counts
What's your starter sir 🥰
alpine canopy
What's your starter sir 🥰
VK for sure, tentatively planning on ES time rot, but might pivot to void spell DOT or void flare instead
quiet hearth
Dex stack, you could get like 1k more at 100 dex XD
alpine canopy
What are you going to be rolling?
quiet hearth
I wonder if they fixed the bolster node
alpine canopy
Dex stack, you could get like 1k more at 100 dex XD
Isn't it so silly? Lol, my thought was running mourningfrost with bane of winter
scenic gyro
What are you going to be rolling?
I'm a legacy Andy, I'm gonna min max warpath smite and dive right into endgame. Won't stop until I get Uberoth with that build
quiet hearth
I hate that furnace doesnt have more dmg to it
alpine canopy
I'm a legacy Andy, I'm gonna min max warpath smite and dive right into endgame. ...
Best of luck on the murder hunt!
Uber Aberroth gonna be beefy
quiet hearth
Subskills inherit the stat scaling of the skill they are in right?
alpine canopy
I hate that furnace doesnt have more dmg to it
Apparently it just failed to do damage before and that's getting fixed... which explains why when I tried it a while back, it just tickled. I wonder if it'll be usable at all now
alpine canopy
Subskills inherit the stat scaling of the skill they are in right?
Yes
quiet hearth
so str stack to boost furnace got it
gusty bronze
so lava burst about to go brrr right?
quiet hearth
nah this is inside smelters
also, the furnace node requires 2pts to move left and it's a 1pt node lol
hexed sky
i think that may have been on purpose since that node doesn't work for furnace.
cobalt blade
I see smelter 
quiet hearth
I just dont think you can get enough juice to make furnace hurt anything
slim spire
What's the relation between warpath & attack speed?
Also if you do attack faster with attack speed, do you summon forged weapons faster with higher as?
harsh cradle
im looking at making a time rot build for season 2 (real original I know). Rot grip says it boosts time rot based on global chance to slow with void skills. Does that mean something like the rending maw (devouring orbs have a 100% chance to slow) doesnt increase rot grips damage?
silk cedar
Typically those nodes look at your character's stats (i.e. chance to slow on hit + chance to slow on hit with void skills), not at the specific skill that applied the effect.
harsh cradle
hmm, i wonder whats gonna be a more intersting time rot dorb build then, smite or abyssal echoes
tired sorrel
Since getting 12 stacks of time rot should’t be too difficult, seems like the trick to time rot builds will be the gear choices that capitalize on rot grip bonuses
topaz owl
yo is there a attack without moving option like in poe
analog steppe
100%, it will all be about building Rot Grips mores the highest possible
I do imagine there will be a balancing act between getting more Slow Chance over Time Rot Chance where you get more damage but less stack generation to where you might not hit 12 as fast
the way optimization works with multiplicatives is you want them all as equal as possible, and one of the major slots for both stats is idol suffix
so you do have to make the choice between slow chance and time rot chance
heady mountain
Is erasing strike void knight something I can go for ? I saw on payroll it was in the top tier and I have to say it looked interesting. Just not sure how reliable the guides there are for the next season. It did say it's updated tho
slim spire
yo is there a attack without moving option like in poe
Right click?
slim spire
There's also going to be wasd after this
turbid dome
Is erasing strike void knight something I can go for ? I saw on payroll it was i...
yes erasing strike is good
your not going to be able to use just erasing strike till late game tho
heady mountain
yes erasing strike is good
your not going to be able to use just erasing strike...
Yah I saw thst I picked a leveling guide for sentinel and then hopefully get through to thhe campaign smooth
turbid dome
Yah I saw thst I picked a leveling guide for sentinel and then hopefully get thr...
that should be good then
and if you dont like it respec is cheap + encouraged
heady mountain
Yah I was trying to decide btw earthstrikneor support
But I don't have friends so 
harsh cradle
its interesting how few abilities trigger rot grip.
Abyssal Echoes 'embrace the darkness' is +20% attack speed
Anomaly 'manipulation' is +20% attack / cast speed
Rebuke is +20% attack / cast speed
Smite is +20% attack / cast speed
i cant find a single global slow chance or time rot chance on abiltiies
analog steppe
well yeah not many skills give global effects to begin with
harsh cradle
yeah
analog steppe
its ok though, we can get the multipliers pretty damn high with gear alone
heady mountain
Are the loot filters and the guides good ? I'm honestly getting confused if I try to make one so for now I just took one for leveling and one for earthstrike that I found
warped vigil
I really would like to see barrage Javelin with divine fury
covert phoenix
its interesting how few abilities trigger rot grip.
Abyssal Echoes 'embrace th...
abyssal echoes has one
warped vigil
Are the loot filters and the guides good ? I'm honestly getting confused if I tr...
If it’s your first time playing none of that really matters. The campaign is hilariously easy until maybe lagon
Better to actually read items and understand what works for your build, most of the fun is making your own imo
turbid dome
Are the loot filters and the guides good ? I'm honestly getting confused if I tr...
Play the game for a bit, then go look up guides on how to make a loot filter
It sucks basically sitting there and learning for like 30 minutes but it’s very worth it
echo cosmos
Doesn’t loot filter just make it to where you only get loot for your character
harsh cradle
hot take i think like 99% of builds work pretty well. If you want to push past 300 corruption you might need to have a deep understanding of builds or whatever, but unless you are doing that just take abilities that look cool and have synergies with each other
analog steppe
I prefer building a loot filter myself as well, the act of going through and making it teaches you so much about your build and the game
red wolf
Planning to go VK this patch, i made a build planner but spell damage calculations are not there. I can only gauge time rot (it's a dot build). How much should i see there on time rot damage to decide if it's good or not?
I mean, should i aim at 5k, 10k, 100k - just an indication.
analog steppe
-40k, my planner hit towards 70k with more optimal but not perfect gear
dry pier
40k on the offense tab?
analog steppe
really depends on what vehicle you choose to apply with though since that won’t be factored into the planners numbers
turbid dome
Doesn’t loot filter just make it to where you only get loot for your character
Entirely depends on how you set up the filter
It’s more just picking what items you don’t want to see when they drop and recoloring the labels on stuff you do really want
Ie: hide low level weapon bases, but if they have an exalted affix I want, show them
analog steppe
my filters are very simple usually, hide all, show items with affixes I want, highlight exalts with multi or T7, highlight exalts of stuff I want, highlight the uniques I’m trying to CoF for
turbid dome
Yeah always a few rules for what your currently looking for
I make those ones pink
radiant vortex
I can't use my simplest filter anymore which is just show stuff that has t6/t7 of mods I wanna see rest are garbo who'd want those
analog steppe
The act of going through and picking the affixes you want to see is great for exploring in your mind the build you are trying follow and understanding it
radiant vortex
cos if there's a t7 mod and any of the mods I want present there's a chance to flip now and even a single mod t7 is value cos you can just choose to slam that on a 1lp
dry pier
just make up your own filter as you go, its not hard to do, and this games item filter is the best out of any arpg, its so easy to make filters on the fly
covert phoenix
just noticed the maxroll calculator is completely bugged and show wildly incorrect values
like, since when shield wall gives 20% block chance???????
robust lake
rn its 1-pointer, in 1.2 its 4-pointer, opportunity cost, working as intended, both letools and maxroll show 1.2 values already
tired sorrel
i wonder if Burst of Speed in Rebuke would be a nice way to juice Rot Grip
robust lake
or I might have been imagining things, re-checking it right now and it gives 8% block, 2% per point o_O
slim spire
Just sharing info on loot filter, since you guys have been discussing it earlier
Would hate to miss out sealed items
fluid sparrow
like, since when shield wall gives 20% block chance???????
The whole node is I think incorrectly set up... Health gain on block gives 10 per point in their planner, while it should be 4...
covert phoenix
Also, Vessel of strife is giving 66% life regen as ward in maxroll, despite showing 40%...
pretty amateurish...
fluid sparrow
Do both work on imported game data? Or "manual" input? (both meaning maxroll and tools)
worn garden
Also, Vessel of strife is giving 66% life regen as ward in maxroll, despite show...
must be certain sections then, it displays properly on the ones I checked.
covert phoenix
.............................. Where this 30% block chance is supposed to come from
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/akbyu00o#4 the one I checked for vessel @worn garden
robust lake
we'll get there, when servers get revived
covert phoenix
spring atlas
anyone know if disentegrating aura on hammer throw is any good for leveling
worn garden
.............................. Where this 30% block chance is supposed to come f...
le tools was having issues as well, if you see any issues on either platform feel free to message mcfluffin for maxroll, and dammit for letools, they encourage feed back
covert phoenix
Yeah, but it's not just a tool issue
the build has 10% block chance and goes clotho needle
worn garden
regardless, let them know
drowsy dagger
So for devouring orb, doing crit with self cast smite.
Any opinion on javelin battlestandard (for added auto cast of smite) vs using symbols of hope?
Im thinking mostly for dmg (prolly mainly boss)
lilac sparrow
Exploding devouring orb looks fun NGL
halcyon vigil
are we hype for void knight vroskis?
lilac sparrow
I mean the sentinel rework is tldr void knight rework itself
astral lintel
Does erasing strike works as leveling? Does vk has aby good leveling build?
lilac sparrow
Idk man
slim spire
Does erasing strike works as leveling? Does vk has aby good leveling build?
Literally every skill work for levelling
Some faster than others
lilac sparrow
I just use warpath with bumblebee then go straight to monolith
As soon as I get there
Then skip the story
lucid crag
crude matrixBOT
lilac sparrow
Not gonna use reversal for movement?
lucid crag
I guess
dry pier
i think something like that would die if it got sneezed on
lilac sparrow
Does erasing strike do some spell dmg tho
radiant vortex
I also love the crafted set gear in what looks like barely into monos
lilac sparrow
Your build looks spell casting base
lucid crag
you cast smite and gaspar procs this
lucid crag
Your build looks spell casting base
spell dmg I would imagine leveling for tomorrow
bcz you get a line to executing a bunch of enemies spawning void beams
for low cost
lilac sparrow
Yeah that's my idea too
For exploding devouring orb
Exploding devouring orb have very low cdr
lucid crag
I might do melee if orb isn't good enough
lilac sparrow
You spam it
lucid crag
did the link bork or do you have no gloves on this
I just put in the main pieces
framework
and decimate has 8x multiplier so any spell dmg added gets scaled to hell
covert phoenix
and decimate has 8x multiplier so any spell dmg added gets scaled to hell
not really, no
lucid crag
y
covert phoenix
I wish people would stop just looking at damage effectiveness, and start to think how it's supposed to scale
radiant vortex
yeah, grand idols have an enchanted mod for more of that
lilac sparrow
VK scales with vitality
covert phoenix
Let's pretend you are able to trigger reliably 3x decimate every 2s.
that's 1200% damage effectiveness per second
lucid crag
on top of crit
radiant vortex
VK scales with vitality
for melee mainly
jolly kestrel
Forge guard question for forged weapons. Are the attack speed and aoe increase nodes for forged weapon, from forged strike, universal to all summoned weapon or only applied to forged weapons summoned by forged strike, i pressed alt and all nodes other than the 2 mentioned above relating to forged weapon are universal buffs. Is it done on purpose or is it a forgetful mistake to add the alt description?
lilac sparrow
It have cool down of 4 seconds tho
lucid crag
set gives you half cd
lilac sparrow
for melee mainly
Pretty sure all vk spells are vitality
radiant vortex
go harder
covert phoenix
let's say you are casting smite 3 time per second with blinding flash and sacrifice. That's 2362% damage effectiveness per second
decimate is just that bad
lucid crag
I'm not casting smite 3 times a sec
covert phoenix
and 3 smites per second is super low
radiant vortex
Pretty sure all vk spells are vitality
oh yeah sure, I was just thinkin of the main passive
covert phoenix
you can reach like 10-15 smites per second on various setups
lucid crag
I'm taking the node that tps you to cursor
lilac sparrow
:thonk
radiant vortex
comparison is the thief of joy, if sheep wants to min max decimate it's a good goal to have
mellow bobcat
I see some multi-strike smite builds running Code of an Erased Sentinel. The -3 mana cost to melee skills, how does that affect the build considering that multi-strike costs 0 mana and Smite not being a melee skill...
lilac sparrow
Sounds BRICKED
covert phoenix
I see some multi-strike smite builds running Code of an Erased Sentinel. The -3 ...
it doesn't, pay your bladestorm mana tax properly
radiant vortex
it's already a lot better than my void cleave meme where the max hit rate I have is 2 and there's no 'free' 800% dmg scalin
covert phoenix
it's already a lot better than my void cleave meme where the max hit rate I have...
void cleave is hitting several magnitudes harder than decimate lol
waxen nymph
I see some multi-strike smite builds running Code of an Erased Sentinel. The -3 ...
Doesn't work
Smite is not affected and Blade Storm is mana consumed so not affected
lilac sparrow
Iirc there are skills that amplify next void cleave
lucid crag
does penetrate have a cap in this game then
covert phoenix
no
waxen nymph
No
mellow bobcat
Doesn't work
Smite is not affected and Blade Storm is mana consumed so not affec...
okay, so it's not a very strong unique for it. Thanks.
lilac sparrow
So does getting as much penetrate as I can is a good idea
radiant vortex
void cleave is hitting several magnitudes harder than decimate lol
not the way I'm doing it D:
lucid crag
I'll just usher myself into a warlock league again
waxen nymph
okay, so it's not a very strong unique for it. Thanks.
+1 skill and Armor dot is nice
lilac sparrow
My time rot will have lots of vid penetration
Btw what are ways to gain more time rot chance
radiant vortex
meme forever
lilac sparrow
Is there affix to it
mellow bobcat
+1 skill and Armor dot is nice
yeah would run it if it dropped, but there's other options out there as well then
fluid sparrow
On idols I think there was an affix
lucid crag
like if the decimate idea is bad because it gets outclassed then I'll just play warlock shenanigans because its visual popcorn and I like it too much
waxen nymph
So does getting as much penetrate as I can is a good idea
Yes, on Dot build it's your main extra scaling. On Hit Build you want some pen and Crit scaling
fluid sparrow
and passive tree
waxen nymph
Is there affix to it
Affix and idols iirc
radiant vortex
tree, idol, neck
fluid sparrow
maybe on on relic/body/helmet as well, unsure if that was chance or dmg
waxen nymph
Check the planner I am not sure
fluid sparrow
(be sure to select "basic")
lilac sparrow
Some skills generate multiple stacks in one hit for time rot
lucid crag
is there a shotgun on voidcleave or something that makes it outscale decimate
lilac sparrow
Does it mean 100% time rot chance per stack or what
fluid sparrow
100% = 1 stack guarantueed
105% = 1 stack g. and 5% for another.
Like all ailments (I think?)
And it has cap of 12
lucid crag
is there a shotgun on voidcleave or something that makes it outscale decimate
@covert phoenix
covert phoenix
is there a shotgun on voidcleave or something that makes it outscale decimate
Just a skill tree, and it's good enough
radiant vortex
warpath setting up 🤢
lucid crag
so I guess decimate won't work on this setup because I'm suboptimally casting smite
and smite becomes weak because its fire
fluid sparrow
Can convert it to void if you want, it should be in the tree now?
lucid crag
but that deletes the gaspar interaction
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
lucid crag
they clearly want you to do something with it but this build is bricked
lilac sparrow
Only very few set items are good to use
lucid crag
guess I'll do something like phys warlock or the standard issue
rapid pecan
do you guys think this will be okay with the MS changes ?
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/planner/m55sv0la
lilac sparrow
I'd use forgotten knight shield and locket for that delicious 50% void penetration
lucid crag
because you just slot in 30% free penetration huhuhuh
fluid sparrow
There are so many other sentinel options though 😛
lucid crag
I didn't notice the 50% pen
lilac sparrow
I've always wanted to use this skill if it only got void scaling before
Now it do
What axe is good with it
lucid crag
30% mana efficiency lets you do some silly shit with warlock though
dry pier
i actually been working on my starter rive, timerot build for the last lil bit, no idea if its good tho https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BaKNGzxA
crude matrixBOT
fluid sparrow
Damn, I already forgot how amazing it will be that 1LP uniques will be able to pick a guarantueed affix ..... probably gonna be amazed once more when I get there in game 😄
arctic tartan
i actually been working on my starter rive, timerot build for the last lil bit, ...
I'm pretty sure that Blademaster in the sentinel tree is always worth the 10 point investment to get there.
Also vipertail
dry pier
i agree with ya, thanks for the feed back, just gotta figure out where to get the points to get it
polar spire
the fact this doesnt say mage locked, but i cant roll it onto a belt on sentinel is wild
@willow wedge ^
slim spire
Forge guard question for forged weapons. Are the attack speed and aoe increase n...
Probably a mistake. All forged weapons from all sources are equal
You can ask in ask dev ofc
polar spire
Probably a mistake. All forged weapons from all sources are equal
this is quite the lie
sometimes they're axes and slightly better than their brothers
arctic tartan
Some weapons are more equal than others
slim spire
this is quite the lie
I regret to inform that you are technically correct
polar spire
I regret to inform that you are technically correct
:D
covert phoenix
sometimes they're axes and slightly better than their brothers
It's not a lie
these axes are just more equal than the others
polar spire
i swear to god there was an enchanted idol affix that gave flat spell, and additional flat spell while wielding an axe and now i can't find it
slim spire
Tbf the axes barely look like axes
I would throw all the money if they make actual forged weapons mtx
polar spire
i ended up changing my mind to making something stupid after remembering a very very old item that no one uses anymore
polar spire
I just talked about it yeah it goes kinda hard
was gonna run that on fg multismite with the fire/necrotic 2h axe
but ive now changed my mind because of the super old thing i just remembered
radiant vortex
did you mean pyre from soulfire? <_<
fossil musk
Guys I wanna start divine bolt build how is it atm ?
radiant vortex
Lookin good
polar spire
ooo i should run divine bolts with what im doing
radiant vortex
I believe so
fossil musk
melee version right ?
radiant vortex
That I don't know, I like hh as a spell more
version I made uses mad alchemists ladle
radiant vortex
callin it the Mad Ladle Din
rapid pecan
oh divine bolts on melee that goes into my build too forgot that
fossil musk
version I made uses mad alchemists ladle
I saw it on many build but btw there isnt better weapon for it ?
radiant vortex
probably yeah but its the funniest to me
rapid pecan
i would just go multistrike speced into void smite and stack vit+str
radiant vortex
I'm not sure how convertin to melee interacts with the divine bolt node on HH >_>
fossil musk
i would just go multistrike speced into void smite and stack vit+str
not the same build tho
rapid pecan
true
fossil musk
attunement needed for divine bolt
radiant vortex
so doing melee I'd probably change hh to a trigger and just slap with with another hit skill
rapid pecan
well yeah if you go for only divine bolt yeah you need that
polar spire
so doing melee I'd probably change hh to a trigger and just slap with with anoth...
Im making a spam spellcast HH build right now
fossil musk
so doing melee I'd probably change hh to a trigger and just slap with with anoth...
u have to cast hh directly for divine bolt
fossil musk
oh well I wanted both otherwise I think procs from hh is way better
since he doesnt have any limit
from tree its 2 divine bolt per sec max
radiant vortex
yeah but if you change HH to a melee attack it doesn't provide spell dmg anymore
covert phoenix
from tree its 2 divine bolt per sec max
weird flex but ok
radiant vortex
which means your bolts will do a lot less dmg I'd wager
polar spire
Did yall know if you play VK HH, and convert HH to melee, and then grab the 100% chance to cast HH on melee, you can also echo the initial HH to hit 3 HH's per hit? VK's can get up to somewhere around 900% healing effect
fossil musk
yeah but if you change HH to a melee attack it doesn't provide spell dmg anymore
everything that I need to know
thanks
cancel completly melee build
radiant vortex
I'd assume thats how it works I don't KNOW mind you
polar spire
If you make HH 0 mana cost, you can still take its nodes for additional bolts, and then grab the idols that fire divine bolts on 0 mana cost skill
For spell, as for melee HH, then its just even better
I cant remember if the paladin divine bolts passive is on direct melee attack or any melee attack, if its any, then you can run Spell HH, and then pick up Counterattack Retribution in base sentinel talents
radiant vortex
oh god damn it I forgot about the 0 cost cast
radiant vortex
I cant remember if the paladin divine bolts passive is on direct melee attack or...
hit enemy with a melee attack
fossil musk
If you make HH 0 mana cost, you can still take its nodes for additional bolts, a...
on planner tho I dont find those idols
are they removed ?
rapid pecan
they are 1x4
polar spire
Whichever is the vertical one
And yea i shoulda known any melee attack, im literally running vengeance this season, because counterattack, riposte, and ironblades will all proc melee divine bolts
In fact, i should rearrange my idols again
polar spire
Maybe go ambition for the 40% more fire damage
lilac sparrow
Did yall know if you play VK HH, and convert HH to melee, and then grab the 100%...
Actually sounds good to use with rive
willow wedge
<@349260203134418946> ^
Why am I mentioned exactly? -_-
polar spire
Actually sounds good to use with rive
Doesnt work in that case
sharp osprey
Whichever is the vertical one
Pretty early draft but could I get your thoughts on this? Using mostly gear I already have or could I think make. https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q0aJaVdB
crude matrixBOT
lilac sparrow
Why tho
polar spire
Why am I mentioned exactly? -_-
Letools champion belt affix for lightning blast isnt class locked, but cant roll it on a sentinel belt
lilac sparrow
Ain't rive melee
willow wedge
Hm, why can't you? It's a sealed affix, so it's available only as sealed one. I was able to add it without trouble.
polar spire
Kddjfiahfoenciajfbwodjenfiejfnek sealed affixes god dammitt
polar spire
Hm, why can't you? It's a sealed affix, so it's available only as sealed one. I ...
Sorrrryyyytyyykmwkfjshfiajcj
radiant vortex
polar spire
Why am I mentioned exactly? -_-
because we love you and pray you arent lonely in these trying times
crimson rover
Join me in the silly FG Javelin/Vengeance/Shield Throw build
tell me more
polar spire
Pretty early draft but could I get your thoughts on this? Using mostly gear I al...
I see shield rush
Is this being played offline?
eager carbon
gl getting this idol
sharp osprey
Is this being played offline?
🤔 no online. Is there a bug with shield rush?
rapid pecan
gl getting this idol
seems possible
eager carbon
yup
buoyant vale
Anyone knows a void knight leveling guide for 1.2? Maxroll suggests starting as a paladin, but i pefer not to respec
polar spire
🤔 no online. Is there a bug with shield rush?
It has crazy horrid desync in online, imagine how much worse it'll be on season launch with how many people are coming here from poe2 kek
rapid pecan
Anyone knows a void knight leveling guide for 1.2? Maxroll suggests starting as ...
Rive, warpath take your pick
sharp osprey
It has crazy horrid desync in online, imagine how much worse it'll be on season ...
💀 oh god that's a good point.
radiant vortex
gl getting this idol
- Easy
- wheres the chance numbers at
polar spire
💀 oh god that's a good point.
When shield rush is working correctly and not desyncing, its actually one of the best dps skills in sentinels entire kit
vernal frigate
t7 both enchants keep dreamin buddy.... (i hope we both get them 🙏 )
eager carbon
tunklab
radiant vortex
Its just showing what can be @vernal frigate
small veldt
Is it a common issue with movement skills?
polar spire
Its just showing what can be <@122501883725217792>
Just shield rush if you have it set to 0 cd, and werebears rampage if its also set to 0 cd
small veldt
I think primalist leap has a similar issue where you just get stuck in the air
radiant vortex
t5s fine
vernal frigate
ik just messin with ya... they look so nice though
yeah
from the dev stream u get t2 minimum, then just need 8 weavers touch
vernal frigate
polar spire
I think primalist leap has a similar issue where you just get stuck in the air
Primalist leap is fine, or at least, werebear leap is, werebear leap is typically my season starter
small veldt
Primalist leap is fine, or at least, werebear leap is, werebear leap is typicall...
Yeah, i'm talking the main primalist leap, not werebear one. Gotten stuck mid leap more than once
polar spire
Yeah, i'm talking the main primalist leap, not werebear one. Gotten stuck mid le...
Yea i can see that then, hopefully the change to skills like that where you can now bend the fabric of time, to wrap around corners mid leap will fix your issue
radiant vortex
is this for the idols or just general WW items
eager carbon
idols only
radiant vortex
cos the idol enchantin is on the bench where you can just kind of infinite roll
eager carbon
WW is completely different
radiant vortex
as long as you got the currency
I ask cos I don't recall it being said that there's a corruption scalin to that stuff
radiant vortex
better odds than some of the LP I've farmed thus far
eager carbon
you have more chance at a 1lp red ring than this
radiant vortex
I mean if you don't count drop chance then yeah by several magnitudes
but worse than 4lp qs which I have gotten tho <_<
also again, slappin enchant is just a numbers game you can't really brick it
you just keep going until you hit
urban bay
Man I want volatile reversal to be like flicker strike, how low can you get cooldowns reduced?
fossil musk
Why everybody use that and why its broken plz ?
radiant vortex
base crit mad stats I guess
fossil musk
oh u wanna scale divine bolt crits ?
radiant vortex
if you're hit based you always wanna add crit
waxen nymph
Why everybody use that and why its broken plz ?
Base Crit, Cast Speed, Res, Attribute
fossil musk
damn need to take this then :
waxen nymph
You just need one with not the element you are using
Like you do Fire, take Cold / Lightning
rapid pecan
does anyone know where can i turn off tutorials ?
waxen nymph
Otherwise you are killing your dmg for half the time
waxen nymph
does anyone know where can i turn off tutorials ?
Option menu
waxen nymph
I dont play with a shield then ?
Up to you
fossil musk
dont rly know tankiness I need yet but seems hard to play without shield especially as sentinel
radiant vortex
going Rahyeh instead is valid
waxen nymph
This off hand is a lot of dmg
fossil musk
but on other hands it allows me to remove all block passives
waxen nymph
Also Attunement is ward, and cast speed is also more Ward
radiant vortex
tank vs dps should always be the choice
if you can get both from the same slot it's better
polar spire
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8dXlvgA
aight, made HH spammer with an old idol no one uses anymore
crude matrixBOT
polar spire
javelin's sole purpose, is the fact taking the banner node adds the buff tag, boosting HH's damage by another 20%
but also its a mobility skill too
radiant vortex
I had to do a triple take on that trinity
radiant vortex
I was like "how you having 2 ambitions"
fossil musk
also if I remember well (didnt play since release)
there is a relic slot for sentinel broken
unique one
Yeaaaaaaaah
THAT FOOR HC
mamaaaaaaaa
waxen nymph
If you are doing Divine Bolts, you might want to consider Twisted Heart
fossil musk
If you are doing Divine Bolts, you might want to consider Twisted Heart
I see seems good but idk when u switch to ward defense
and when u have enough "ward defense"
eager carbon
you really wanna take homeward, HH aiming is horrendous
also you need to heal yourself for bolts to proc
fossil musk
also you need to heal yourself for bolts to proc
that is solved by affixe on gloves lose x% life par sec
fossil musk
you really wanna take homeward, HH aiming is horrendous
what is homeward ?
elfin warren
When I trigger Smite with Multistrike, does this count as if I cast it?
fossil musk
When I trigger Smite with Multistrike, does this count as if I cast it?
no direct cast