🔱┃sentinel

[lofty creek]

it will. The issue is how often you'll be attacked in the first place

most mobs in LE don't attack that fast

[slate hatch]

with all the new mob density i dont see it being an issue, weavers tree provides bunch of pack size and champion monsters etc.

[lofty creek]

also idk how ripose interacts at range

e.g. if one of those meteor birds calls down a spell on your head from the edge of the screen, would Riposte still work? 🤷‍♂️

[slate hatch]

yeah idk, never used vengeance before 😄

[unreal monolith]

why most of new items are not cool for build something lol

[slate hatch]

i think its a cool build, i like the idea of being a spartan-like with spear and shield. doesnt always have to be meta for it to be fun 😉

[lofty creek]

new shield is insane wdym

[unreal monolith]

I want just Phalanx

Spartan

[lofty creek]

f***ing busted ass shield

new BiS

[slate hatch]

@lofty creek take a peek if u dont mind https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ALqmvzkQ this does take into account a condition that enemies are within 4m and im pretty sure the block chance doesnt include bc coming from riposte

[crude matrix]

Forge Guard, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (5) / Forge Guard (78) / Paladin (10)

General:

▸ Health: 3,002, Regen: 0/s
▸ Mana: 180.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 170 Str / 25 Dex / 15 Int / 5 Att / 18 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 94% / 91% / 112% / 106% / 98% / 74%
▸ EHP: 19,962 / 19,962 / 19,962 / 36,904 / 21,012 / 19,962 / 19,764

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 61%, Threshold: 670
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (100)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 72% (6,981)
▸ Block Chance: 213%, Mitigation: 39% (1,242)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Void / Melee, Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Vengeance (25)
• Javelin (23)
• Ring Of Shields (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• Bastion of Honour
• Phalanx
• Peak of the Mountain
• Titan Heart
• Immortal Vise
• Blood of the Exile
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[slate hatch]

probably changing volatile to lunge

[lofty creek]

I'm not actually sure the Bastion interaction will work

you'd have to ask a dev

[slate hatch]

like, with overcapped block chance?

[lofty creek]

both overcapped, as well as the conditional block chance it grants

because normally when something scales off of overcapped, it states that it does so clearly

e.g. Frostbite Shackles or Boneclamor Barbute

[unreal monolith]

good luck if you did good build. maybe my build also be good 🙂

[slate hatch]

yeah im concerned about the overcap, didnt see a definitive answer for it yet

[radiant vortex]

only 230 tho? (no idols, no blessings in ss)

who caaares that endu stackin gives no additional dmg

and that str stack will probably be the much more legit avenue

least the block chance ain't conditional to only melee enemies

[analog ingot]

Is there any way to make Event Horizon viable or is the movement/attack speed drawback too strong

[radiant vortex]

it's more the combination of factors

sure its great more dmg but wheres your base, wheres your crit, wheres any shred etc

[lofty creek]

in a game of speed and efficiency? you have your answer.

[slate hatch]

not sure if shots fired at me but thanks for the idea for face of the mountain 😉

[quiet hearth]

You can make a pretty decent build with repeating shield rush and that hammer, but holy dysync batman

[analog ingot]

yeah thats kind of what I figured. It's a cool concept

[quiet hearth]

I never got the chance to build up my crit but when I wasnt dysynced to hell, the dmg was consistant on literally anything

[slate hatch]

just got confirmation that bastion doesnt scale vengeance damage, so ill be swapping to face of the mountain

[quiet hearth]

rainbow rive build go

[stable ice]

any void guard pro here?

i mean void knight xdd

[quiet hearth]

where's engi when you need them

[stable ice]

did u take a look at any maxroll guide? i want to know if the warpath one is not a trap

[grand bear]

Isn't the 1.2 patch supposed to help with that?

[quiet hearth]

wont know until it lands, and I am not gonna be testing that at least the first week

[alpine canopy]

btw, I got around to make my own flavor of void fissure, definitely stole some ideas from your setup, but I like void cleave a lot so I squeezed it in lol ~https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Qdj69VYo

[solid forge]

It's been a while I cam around here. I see pre-patch is already bursting with ideas

[lone flicker]

getting petrified by majasa shield isnt a bad thing?

[shell wedge]

no one's getting petrified

[slow inlet]

Hey any game mech wizards? Does the new Sunforged hammer flat dmg per forged wep get inherited by your forged weapons based on your number of them or do they check independently their own amount of forged weapons?

[wise sonnet]

Thanks for this. Some of the stuff is just things I've overlooked since I've never made my own build. My logic with high attack speed was more ignite stacks, but that was also before I realized other things that would scale my ignite like more damage from skill stuff that I thought was just the hits. Judgment I actually planned to use as utility and supplemental damage, and I saw the mana and figured why not make sure I never have issues. VR I chose as my movement skill a la flame dash for example. Genuinely hate the other sentinel movement options from prior playthrus. Also wasn't aware that armor shred would matter since I'm essentially investing in dot over hit.

[ionic inlet]

No cooldown reduction from items or passives and you could numb lock Sigils to be 2.9 seconds to cast 4 sigil dmg and have 160% chance to be activated again on a rare/boss
Can only have 1 point in 25% cd so can't have 5 sigils it would trigger too soon.

[heady pumice]

what items can "increase area of abilities/melee attacks" roll on?

only gloves?

[south zephyr]

2H weapons

[ionic inlet]

2h weapon, amulet, maybe specific idols too

[south zephyr]

I think Ammy can get generic area can't they?

[eager carbon]

dope

[waxen nymph]

No traversal?

I can't live like this

[alpine canopy]

Unspecced VR

[turbid dome]

Amulet and gloves get AOE for AOE skills

Twohanders gets AOE for melee skills

[eager carbon]

swiftness is enough

you will be running at 120%+

[alpine canopy]

I don't have AE on my bar, but I figure I might replace VC with AE for some bosses maybe

[waxen nymph]

They should be good since they have been tested in the CT

[heady pumice]

so for classes using one handed weapons you only get it on amulets and gloves?

[ionic inlet]

Just fyi area barely won't be noticed with even +50% increased area on most skills

[stable ice]

okay one more question, ill be leveling as paladin up to around lvl 70, and ill be using the loot filter that comes with the leveling guide for sentinel/paladin, im just scared that the loot filter hides good items for the void knight build on my way to 70

its not gonna hide those items right

[heady pumice]

pick a void knight filter and use the leveling guide?

so you can get those affixes

[waxen nymph]

Nothing good enough that you should be scared to loose will drop before you are 70

[stable ice]

if i use the void knight endgame filter im probably not finding anything sueful for the leveling guide no?

[ionic inlet]

When I make a loot filter I'd just see all items and then highlight items that have modifiers I want

[heady pumice]

I used a endgame paladin one and it seems to highlight every item with just 1 good modifier

so everytime a item has something simple as +hp it shows up. So it just hides the ones with 4x bad mods pretty much

[stable ice]

im gonna take a closer look at the sentinel elveling filter now ingame

[south zephyr]

Honestly with the changes to LP slams and Rune of Havoc you should be highlighting every single T7 for a long long time

[heady pumice]

why would you want a T7 if its a mod you'd never use?

or are you talking about T7 mods that you do use?

[polar spire]

That one virgin while leveing: "aw maaan"

[stable ice]

huuh this is in my leveling filter, can someone explain?

[south zephyr]

Because you can shuffle that T7 to a useful mod and guaranteed slam it onto a legendary

[heady pumice]

Sure but then that T7 item must also have a mod that you do want

so i would still hide alot of T7 items if the rest of the mods are unusable

[south zephyr]

Or an empty slot or you can gamble with removal

Since you can reassign affix tiers you can gamble off or look for a 3 affix one, put what you want, havoc a couple of times and have your exact desired affix

[heady pumice]

Sure maybe a little niché that you could do early I guess

[south zephyr]

For low LP required uniques this is probably close to optimal

Should make gearing with 1 and maybe 2 LP legendaries super fast

[heady pumice]

I just assume that you will run out of rune of havocs on decent items way before you have to resort to actually gambling and removing mods,

[south zephyr]

I mean they're as uncommon as runes of ascendance so getting 10-20 with the right farming setup should be quick and for some of the super rare affixes it'll be a lot easier than trying to farm the base T7

[heady pumice]

From what level does T7's start to drop?

[south zephyr]

Not sure, they're common enough in empowered though

[quiet hearth]

It's a shame that getting those harbinger bases is such a pain, some of them are really good

[south zephyr]

Fixed with weaver tree

[quiet hearth]

really? I missed that

[south zephyr]

You can force nemesis to drop one whenever you kill it iirc

Or a couple maybe

[quiet hearth]

i havent looked at the weaver tree too much

ok so you can get more chances but having to have it equipped and kill a harby is still dumb

[eager carbon]

its when he escapes

and you still have to kill a harby to upgrade it

[quiet hearth]

ok, previous message was auto blocked for some reason, but it's not a good design to have to kick your build in the shin for that much rng on a weapon

[eager carbon]

im yet to see 1 planner with such weapon

[quiet hearth]

exactly

But with the FG 2h node, Im lookin at the sun beak 2h axe and just being like hmm

[south zephyr]

Oh huh that is a lot of Crit multi

Wow

[quiet hearth]

And I hate fighting those bosses, the floor is always lava

[eager carbon]

first few are ok, rest is straigth up bullshit

especially the fat one

[south zephyr]

I wonder how much crit multi you could get on Rive with that

Probably a silly amount

[quiet hearth]

im not sure if rive buffs crit multi

[south zephyr]

I think the 2H double stat should

So that'd be like 580% from your weapon alone

With T7

[quiet hearth]

just the axe and the tree

[wheat light]

Sounds juicy for FG with the new 2h+shield passive

[quiet hearth]

That and VC

Or maybe a pally using HH electrify

wait that is melee only not global nvm

Getting a t7 on one of those would be cancerous tho

[south zephyr]

Havoc!

Havoc, havoc, havoc

I really can't stress how crazy that new rune is enough

[quiet hearth]

rune?

[stable ice]

is it possible to combine two different filters?

[south zephyr]

Rune of Havoc, reshuffle the tiers on any exalted item

[turbid dome]

Ye

[quiet hearth]

oooh

[south zephyr]

It's absurdly useful

[obsidian bloom]

anybody have a planner for hammer throw ricochet as the main damage dealer? wondering how viable it is this season

[turbid dome]

I hope their not stupidly rare

[quiet hearth]

they will be, and take all your FP too

[south zephyr]

As rare as rune of ascendance so only moderately so and you can target farm them pretty well

With weavers

[cosmic mist]

You running the boots that give you like 100 crit multi?

[turbid dome]

Oh that’s not that rare sick

[quiet hearth]

I havent gotten that far yet

[eager carbon]

tunk has a calc on havoc

[tribal basin]

Explanation : you will only see high tier Exalted later with another rule that highlights specifically the Affixes/bases you want or high tier Exalteds instead of everything that happens to have a T6 Affix

[eager carbon]

if you wanna test before you get one

[cosmic mist]

Loot filters?
Yes, manually though

[stable ice]

wym manually, i have to redo every single rule bymyself?

[cosmic mist]

Yeah

[tribal basin]

I also have Hide All Exalteds and made Affix/Base categories for things. We have so many Rules for a reason , use them.

[cosmic mist]

It's a lot easier than you think tbf

Just requires like 10-20 minutes of your time

[tribal basin]

because you can basically search for all affixes in the search bar

[quiet hearth]

Make a base one. then clone it as needed for each filter you need

[tribal basin]

like for example , i have a rule that specifically only highlights Items with at least T23 in Affixes

[polar spire]

Thats already too much for most LE players

[candid anchor]

Loot filters are super easy…. It’s just knowing what you want and adjusting as you go/need

[cosmic mist]

True I could kill lagon like once during that time

[stable ice]

this is from the so called endgame filter of my guide, doesnt this mean it will work for leveling campaign as well?

[quiet hearth]

this doesnt include Rives doubling

so add like...another 250?

[heady pumice]

Is stacking crit multi with that low crit chance really worth it?

[quiet hearth]

I literally only have the axe and the boots on

[polar spire]

I should prob find and update my jaspers searing pride rive build that a friend took up to 2500c with

[cosmic mist]

Yeah, if it's a maxroll loot filters it says endgame but shows gear for levelling from as low as like, lvl30 I want to say?

[heady pumice]

Aight, and I dont think that critical multiplyer care about rive, so you would need to add whatever the weapon has again. Since its ability specific

[tribal basin]

the thing that it highlights is mostly gear with Life and resistances

[quiet hearth]

yes, hence why I said add another 250 to that number

[stable ice]

from 0-50 right

[cosmic mist]

Yeah

[stable ice]

so i can actually use this from lvl 1 filter but id have to use this endgame build for leveling as well, thatll work no?

[analog ingot]

Man I cannot decide what build I want to run. Bane of Winter seems really cool as a concept but its another one of those ones that seems kind of at odds with itself. Maybe a void spell build (not with bane of winter), does these multistrike nodes work together?

[south zephyr]

I believe it should

[cosmic mist]

So assuming your filter is from maxroll the levelling filter should mainly just highlight good defensive stats so you can do whatever for levelling and transition to your endgame build around early monolithd

[stable ice]

the problem is the leveling build is as paladin and i 99% sure ill hide allthe good stuff for my warpath vk build

[quiet hearth]

this is with t5s in ever slot and every bit of crit gear I know of

this doesnt include Rives crit multi, thats another 200 min, nor the base crit for the 1-3 hits, or the stacked increased crit from the one node

[turbid dome]

With the new guaranteed affix choice on legendaries, you can slap that exalted flat melee crit onto the planner weapon with no regard for rng

[quiet hearth]

what do you mean legendaries?

[turbid dome]

The pick an affix thing at the eternity cache

[polar spire]

Cant you just add them both, and then turn the leveling one off at 50, and the other one on? You can have multiple filters saved ingame and flip on and off whenever

[quiet hearth]

ah ok, so...with the bases I think I'd land around 70ish crit?

[turbid dome]

Solid

[quiet hearth]

Ive no idea if you could still fit survivability in though

[turbid dome]

Which mastery?

[quiet hearth]

FG, so you'd have the shield at least

[turbid dome]

Cause at the very least 15 points in vk for 10 in abyssal endurance and 5 in the one that gives increased life

Feels weird that theres an increased life node before the mastery cut off chain

[quiet hearth]

I got five in the top three each

[sullen jolt]

hi, I am an old noob with skill issues who loves Jugg archtypes. Shield Bash FG will be okk-ish for endgame? I will play trade - the mace and the shield will be hard to get?

[turbid dome]

Mace?

Shield bash does dual shields now

[sullen jolt]

maxroll says 2h amce and a shield

event horizon

[turbid dome]

Oooooohhhh

[quiet hearth]

what's great about this is the new crit potion belt, I have 438 flat multi, so that means 100% increased potion effect

[sullen jolt]

🤔

[turbid dome]

No idea on that front

[turbid dome]

[quiet hearth]

recover all the ehp

[sullen jolt]

I used to play a little with shield bash long ago and I loved it

[turbid dome]

Ye

[sullen jolt]

so , back to the original question, for an old noob with skill issues will Shield Bash FG be okk for some of the endgmae?

[turbid dome]

I don’t have all the new things with two hander + shield in me head yet

[turbid dome]

Given sentinel buffs overall, yeah imo

Probably gonna want to splash some more points into vk’s tree for 10% increased life

[polar spire]

Thanks to event horizon turbo lowering attack speed, if you played channeled melee healing hands, it can attack 4 times a second and doesnt scale with attack speed, making event horizon hit like a TRUCK

[turbid dome]

True

[polar spire]

Should be fine, yes, way back in the day i got up to 2mill crits with it, now after all the changes and new gear, a shield bash specialized player should be able to get higher with faster attacks

[sullen jolt]

I am na old noob with skill issues though 😄

[polar spire]

Im guessing Event Horizon + Bulwark of the Abyss?

[sullen jolt]

horns of ukherios

[polar spire]

Bulwark will give plenty of crit multi, and then if you tack on healing hand, it'll keep you topped up since bulwark eats health

[polar spire]

Should look into bulwark, it'll give more

That 70% crit multi goes hard, i used to run bulwark for judgement slammer

[sullen jolt]

and warpah vk will be as strong and tanky? single targety vs clear?

[polar spire]

If you get your mitts on a 1lp event horizon, with the new season you'll freely be able to tack on a T7 crit multi or melee phys, and then run bulwark for 70% and sulorons for 70-105%

[quiet hearth]

So I think this is doable but you're gonna be farming all season for it

[turbid dome]

Echos + trigger smites and abyssal echos works great imo

[polar spire]

They're running MG

Far easier in MG

[quiet hearth]

No I mean what I was cooking

[polar spire]

point still stands far easier in MG LOL

[wheat light]

ugh I'm still torn on MG vs CoF

[quiet hearth]

Fair, but you'd need more gold than the rest of the MG with these affixes XD

[polar spire]

CoF for dopamine releases, MG for instant gratification

[sullen jolt]

so for an old noob who will not get all these god tier rolls, affixes what would be a safer bet?

shield bash or warpath on vk

[polar spire]

Naaaa, have you seen all the new content, you could be 90 and still get insane rolls

[turbid dome]

Hammer throw with smite on throwing hit idols

Probably warpath? I haven’t really done much shield bash stuff so I can’t really say

[wheat light]

Like I love trade in arpgs but LE has a bad history of gold being worthless and the market being shit

[polar spire]

That was because of gold dupe exploits though

Pray they dont return

[wheat light]

right

[sullen jolt]

so waht will u suggest , I vwill not lie, I love shield bash - but if VK warpath is better I dont mind going vk. whats less gear dependant?

[wheat light]

I have a feeling its gonna happen again

[hallow knoll]

I'm starting MG, can always swap if things get bad again

[ionic inlet]

@waxen nymph Got this from mike "It's normal, not like ICDRS"
You know what that is?

[polar spire]

Well the fact you want an event horizon on shield bash, probably warpath vk, and far easier for an old noob to pull off. I've helped setup warpath builds in the past for disabled gamers that could only play with 1 hand, and only 2 working fingers, if they can do it, you can do it

[sullen jolt]

I am not a good gamer, I need a lot of room for errors and I easily get distracted XD

[waxen nymph]

@alpine canopy
Need you on this one

[polar spire]

Though warpath vk is outside me, as i hate vk

[turbid dome]

Damn

[turbid dome]

Spin at things and trigger a bajillion things

[polar spire]

Oh these were old farts too, and they did fine, compared to season 2 giving so much free shit, this season will be far easier for you to get what you want compared to what they went through

[sullen jolt]

And I loove shield bash 😉

[ionic inlet]

Calling the cavalry
This was my Q btw
"Some questions regarding Symbols of Hope; Does Gain Rate have the same formula as Cooldown recovery? (Cd / 1 + increased cd)

Is the gain rate (Symbols Of Hope Gain Rate on the tree) actually "increased gain rate", just like the rings and idols or is it different?"

[sullen jolt]

THius weapon will be difficult to get in trade?

for shield bash?

[polar spire]

Event Horizon? Most likely

And you wont see it until probably a good week into the season

If not more

[sullen jolt]

and the two shield old version?

[polar spire]

No idea on that

But you can still run cooldown shield bash on warpath, cooldown shield bash has 100% stun chance on bosses, and you can completely skip a bosses mechanic by just face checking them with your shield

[turbid dome]

That’s a harbringer drop so yeah

[sullen jolt]

thats pretty good news!

[sullen jolt]

and this two shield version?

[analog ingot]

How does abyssal echos stack? Is it just a separate instance of abyssal decay per echos cast?

[turbid dome]

Two shield uses the main hand shield and the horn of <fat zombie dragon name here> so I think it’s easier

[polar spire]

Before the cooldown increase on shield bash, i remember 2 players running high cdr shield bash and stunlocking bosses to death, with the change, i think you need 3 shield bash players to perma stunlock bosses now

[sullen jolt]

this si from maxroll about vk wp :

does it hold tru?

good clear sped and good single target?

[turbid dome]

Which part? The dot from abyssal echos is called abyssal decay and caps at 1

Other parts of its tree does stack

[turbid dome]

Yeah you spin and go in a line at enemies

[polar spire]

I dont understand the mana investment, but the gear dependancy should be super tame, vk warpath is popular, so the items required should be super available, and cheap because of that

[sullen jolt]

I loved ww barb in d3 and had a hard time with it in d2r so abandonded him 😦

perfect - so WW barb it is!

[turbid dome]

I think mana investment for it just means get mana investment so you can move points out of the reduced channel cost nodes

[sullen jolt]

and maybe shield bash as second 😄

[turbid dome]

Can always respec once you have the fancy gear

[polar spire]

That would make more sense then

[sullen jolt]

maxroll i s good ?

[south zephyr]

It's also like literally one T5 helmet affix

[turbid dome]

Solid guides all around yeah

[south zephyr]

Reduces channel cost goes brrrrt

They're... Okay

[turbid dome]

Never the best but solid

[analog ingot]

Just curious how it interacts with echos and such, especially since there's a passive node for extra echo chance for AE

[sullen jolt]

so basicalyy ww vk will pull off some endgame content? not all - some

[south zephyr]

Don't take their endgame gear at face value, a lot of it is quite aspirational

[polar spire]

I prefer lastepochtools over maxroll, but maxroll is more than fine. Just make sure you dont make the mistake of using icy veins builds, they're ALWAYS trash

[sudden sigil]

you need a good chunk of mana to keep this up

[sullen jolt]

so I will just circle back here for help gear - wise I guess; you have been really helpful and patient! thank you!

[south zephyr]

Yeah Maxroll is fine, LETools from a trustworthy creator is great, IcyVeins is... Just dont

[sullen jolt]

can u link please not-maxroll based vk ww guide?

[south zephyr]

You need infinite mana technically but there's some okay solutions, Void Well I. Particular

[polar spire]

Its surprising to me how many players are looking at warriors fury now, no one ever paid it any attention in the past

[turbid dome]

It does depend on how you spec it, like its armor shred node applies from both yours and your echo using it

The abyssal decay duration basically gets reset so it’s slightly longer (due to it capping at one stack)

Echoing it gets a lot better if you turn it into a hit

[sudden sigil]

easier void essence gain this patch i guess

[south zephyr]

Not seeing any updated ones on LETools yet

[polar spire]

All i know is always take at least 1 point of giant splitter on vk warpath, since the echo's will end with that extra hit

[waxen nymph]

Its smth about ICDRS and CDRS being multiplicative
But I never know what stats is what, where, who, why, how did it get there ?

[sullen jolt]

i have a general idea then. what about survivability if WW VK? glass cannon? defence through offence xd?

[ionic inlet]

Made it from easy to plan to ah yeah I just need ?????? and I'm good

[south zephyr]

Defence through lots of leech and health I'm thinking

[polar spire]

Go ask dr3ad, he'll probably know, and if he doesnt, you get to freely tease him with how many hours he has in the game

[waxen nymph]

Anyway, you want all of it

[sullen jolt]

so not a glass cannon dying to a stiff wind?

I love tanky specs

[south zephyr]

Very much not

You can get a ton of leech and double health from Vitality

[sullen jolt]

I have just got hyped xd

[waxen nymph]

Like I know this one is ICDRS
So its multiplicative of CDRS from the gear

[sullen jolt]

I will stop poe2 for le then

[south zephyr]

And 3 Vitality gives 1% More melee damage

[waxen nymph]

Dont ask

[south zephyr]

Quite possibly to stack up to 5K+ HP I'd think

May want to look at Apostates Sanctuary for the extra health from Vitality

[turbid dome]

Not double health from vit but still more

[south zephyr]

Double with Apostates

[turbid dome]

A joke planner I made hit over 10k health

[ionic inlet]

Ah yes the 5 letter thing

[turbid dome]

6 +2 + 2

[south zephyr]

+2 Passive and +2 from Amulet

[polar spire]

Isnt like 100% recovery 50%, 200% is 75%, 300% is 87.5% and so on?

[south zephyr]

Oh wait I thought Vit was base 4

My bad

[turbid dome]

Nah you good

[waxen nymph]

Thats CDRS yes
But somehow ICDRS is different
I dont know, its stupid and I dont like it

[turbid dome]

It’s still a lot of flat hp

[sullen jolt]

what time does the league start tiomorow for Europe?

[turbid dome]

Go to the last epoch website

[south zephyr]

24 hours and 20 minutes from now

[turbid dome]

There’s a count down timer

[turbid dome]

This works too

[sullen jolt]

cool, so mor or less this time tomorrow!

[polar spire]

EHG old code goes brrr

[turbid dome]

Yea

[sullen jolt]

I hate when season starts 10 - 11 pm

[waxen nymph]

Asking me about ICDRS is like asking Mike about Spark Charge and Shadow Dagger
Its weird stuff that respect no rules and do weird shenanigans

[sullen jolt]

like poe

[ionic inlet]

Is cdrs cool down reduction and icdrs increased cool down reduction or is that the big question

[turbid dome]

It’s nice that it starts at noon for me

[sullen jolt]

lucky u!

[short viper]

the prejudice has always been evident but it's something else to see it said out in the open like this 😔

[turbid dome]

[waxen nymph]

CoolDown Reduction Speed
Increased CoolDown Reduction Speed

[turbid dome]

2 years of games starting at like 3 am for me is paying off

[polar spire]

Wdym, i always talk about how much i hate vk

I just dislike the playstyle and how its abilities function

[warped blade]

we spin we win

[turbid dome]

Amadora is a professional hater and I gotta respect it

[analog ingot]

How is ravaging aura these days

[polar spire]

You say "these days" like you remember the old times of Ravager Stance

[analog ingot]

Yeah fair enough, I just havnt heard/seen it since like 1.0

[polar spire]

Gimme Ephemeral Stance

[turbid dome]

Rav aura got a unique

I think it still has the problem of scaling

[ionic inlet]

Ah right

[wheat light]

Yes, shun the heretics. Paladin is the only righteous mastery

So glad VR isn't a mandatory skill anymore

[turbid dome]

Real

[south zephyr]

Very real

[turbid dome]

But now 15 points into vk for less dmg taken and 10% increased max health

[south zephyr]

Moving power off VR was a great decision

[turbid dome]

[south zephyr]

Siiigh

I mean you're not wrong

[wheat light]

I'm so hyped for multi strike smite shenanigans

The numbers look insane

[polar spire]

I only ever ran it for mana chuggers, my support/healer abyssal echoes spammer no longer exists because of the change

[ionic inlet]

Ok ok I get it, yeah this is tricky to apply.
Yeah makes sense. Technically it would have gain rate even faster than 0.7 a second I'd assume @waxen nymph

[polar spire]

Volcanus, Alluvion, and Judicator should go hard on that

[wheat light]

I'm going electrify version.

The crit multi -> dot multi is too good to not try

[polar spire]

So double aurelis?

[wheat light]

Aurelis plus shield

[polar spire]

Yea i did make a double aurelis for specifically that

[wheat light]

Majasa shield OP

[polar spire]

3800% lightning dot

[wheat light]

I think it might be possible to tank Uber dots with enough gear on pally

[polar spire]

My new judgement build i setup should be able to breeze through that

[sullen jolt]

the problem with maxroll guide is i see a lot of over 20 points allocated in skills......

[wheat light]

Yeah you get plus skills fairly easily now

With the guaranteed lp change

[analog ingot]

Man, VK has so many good passives

[sullen jolt]

lp change? what does lp stand for?

[wheat light]

Legendary potential

[sullen jolt]

so now get ger with it ....a lot of hurdles....

[waxen nymph]

You can garantied 1 Affix on your slam

[wheat light]

I mean that's all arpgs ever, it's about finding loot to get stronger

[short viper]

there's less hurdles to following a guide than ever, being able to guarantee 1 affix is really too game changing to even explain in short form

[polar spire]

@short viper i may hate vk's, but i'll put a solid in for them

[warped blade]

yea so we can automatically get full melee crit chance on our apathys maw first try

[short viper]

ephemeral stance got scrapped so long ago didn't it lol

[polar spire]

Yes

[turbid dome]

❤️

[short viper]

the forge guard stance survived a lot longer iirc

[polar spire]

It was what, 70% inc void and phys but you lose 7% current health per sec

[turbid dome]

Next forge guard needs a transformation skill where they jump into a mech suit

[polar spire]

Became anvil stance kinda, didnt it?

[tired sorrel]

so true

[short viper]

ah yeah

i miss anvil stance lmao

[polar spire]

The amount of times i want to use transformation uniques on sentinel

[turbid dome]

Is that good or bad

[polar spire]

Ah yes, lets continue putting EHG through the path of "they dont know wtf they're doing with forge guard" at this point its a test mastery for wacky shit

[turbid dome]

Have the mech count as a minion too

[polar spire]

I want a unique that turns forged weapons into mini manifest armors, similar to the golem skill acolytes have where theres 2, but they're smol

[turbid dome]

I want that now too

[tired sorrel]

so if we take Seraphs Blade and Cleric’s Hammer in HH I’m assuming we call proc a lot of Divine Bolts using the new passives. I hope I’m not wrong.

[polar spire]

Even if they took a 70% hit to damage, where they'd only deal 30% damage, and you can only summon half as many as you have forged weapons, it'd still be better. Lock it to forge guard so paladin can't run ut

[analog ingot]

That'd be cool as hell

[turbid dome]

That would give a real front line commander vibes

Like when your playing conquerer’s blade

[polar spire]

would 100% need to lock it to forge guard though, because i know full well @fair hollow would go batshit with it on paladin if he could

[turbid dome]

Hey I would figure out a way to play it on vk

Also while the new convert incoming ele dmg to void is significantly better for vk, I am going to miss void flux just randomly yeeting things away when I get low

[waxen nymph]

I believe so

[south zephyr]

The less void damage shield is gonna be so good with that

[turbid dome]

Yes

[polar spire]

i like that the node that reduced block chance for increased void damage is gone

bring back shield vk's

[river sierra]

Does the "reduced damage taken on block" affix work as a seperate DR multiplier if u have 100% block?

[turbid dome]

Funny enough if you search block in the LE tools search passive tree thing, it still highlights singular purpose

[polar spire]

you have 100% block mitigation?

[south zephyr]

I believe so, only works on hit damage

[polar spire]

100% block chance isnt 100% mitigation

[south zephyr]

I think he meant block chance

[river sierra]

no i meant chance, like ur block effectiveness and this affix are different?

[south zephyr]

Since then it always procs since you always block

[turbid dome]

It should be separate from your block effectiveness mitigation

[polar spire]

also didnt someone put in the math and find out you can achieve 91% block chance with the slab?

[turbid dome]

Yea

[river sierra]

gotcha, so it would be block effective dr, then the affix dr applies after?

im wording this poorly

[polar spire]

yea i feel like the affix works like a "more" multiplier in a way, and comes last

[river sierra]

if i have 100% chance to block, does this work as just a reduced damage mod

ok great

[polar spire]

yes

[river sierra]

sounds bis

[turbid dome]

Block is very very good at keeping you not dead

Which tbh I think twohander + shield forge guard is gonna be very strong this patch

Sure not as much damage as just a two hander but your just as tanky as a one hander + shield with a bigger damage number

[polar spire]

last epoch, the game with more defensive layers than any other arpg ive ever played, the game where you can run 0% resists across the board, and still be tanky af if you layer other defenses

[turbid dome]

Cause 1% res is actually 1% res

[polar spire]

poe players crying right now

[turbid dome]

Doesn’t follow the standard of each extra point being worth more than the last

[turbid dome]

[analog ingot]

I assume the "+1% dmg for each +1% increased move speed" on vaions chariot boots works with haste?

[alpine canopy]

My Mike translation skills are failing me here, I'm not sure what he means here

[south zephyr]

Yep

[alpine canopy]

Maybe he means the gain rate is normal, but what most people care about is time to gain, which would be calculated like CDRS

[ionic inlet]

@waxen nymph Every passive thing from symbols of hope is neglected right, if you want it to just deal damage? (So covenant of light is excluded - increassed effect of symbols)

[polar spire]

also has anyone else noticed there is now a 2nd node for smelters that increases the charging time, and a node leading to it increases endurance threshold by 75% while charging, and this now makes me wanna run symbols righteous fire on it

[analog ingot]

Seems like a strong combo with that new relic that gives perma haste

[vapid sun]

Hello just want to make sure, does the warpath warslash more damage part affect ailments applied by warslash?

[ionic inlet]

I am cooking Toast

[polar spire]

all more multipliers in warpath as a whole should affect anything hit by the warslash

the warslash is just a free bonus hit

perfect for vk echo's

[turbid dome]

Don’t plan on having that given it’s an uber drop

[analog ingot]

Oh is it?

dang, good to know

[alpine canopy]

🔥 Ahhhh 🔥

[south zephyr]

Yeah won't get it til you're already done

[turbid dome]

The relic and gloves are uber drops yeah

[scenic gyro]

we broke into the 24h bois lets gooooooo

[polar spire]

oh its off uber ab? that makes FAR more sense now

[south zephyr]

Yeah no way those could come from anywhere else tbh

[turbid dome]

Shattered worlds and the whatever 30% of hits taken is now over time gloves

[south zephyr]

They're way too strong otherwise

[alpine canopy]

Flare does look real spicy tho for real

[polar spire]

there are 2 of those gloves

i just now saw the 2nd one

[vapid sun]

thanks i get that, but if i apply time rot via warslash. does that time rot get affected by the "more warslash dmg"?

[turbid dome]

Immortal Vise is the uber one

[alpine canopy]

fwiw, I've been calculating assuming all gain rates as increased and calculating the time to gain each symbol similar to a cooldown with CDRS

[ionic inlet]

Mikes answer didn't help a whole lot.
You have to either manually cast it every 2,8 seconds or num lock it to auto cast every 2,8 BUT it will have more cooldown than it has sigils

[polar spire]

now that i look at it, no idea, it doesnt mention "hit" but the "slash damage per second" leaves me confused on it

[polar spire]

pop that into #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[turbid dome]

🔥 + 🍞 = father toast

[ionic inlet]

If you wanna see the incomplete thing I have so far I can link hmm

[alpine canopy]

For max DPS, you will not be able to numlock it. However, you really don't get much dps out of the 5th symbol and actually lose a little dps with the 4th symbol - but it does take some CDRS investment to pop it on every 3rd

[ionic inlet]

Too be fair could ditch the 5th to get more Healing effect ==== damage !

[alpine canopy]

Popping on every 3rd symbol is very close to the dps of popping every 5th

But! It depends on how echoing works for void flare. If echoing is good, you'll want to guarantee every flare echoes via VR's bonus

[vapid sun]

Had the same thought process there, it doesnt say hit. but it isnt exactly generic more dmg. the ask the dev channel hasn't answered yet so i tried asking in the sentinel text channel.

[ionic inlet]

Some parts are weird though, cause some stuff say BEFORE and AFTER. Idk what would count for the spell.

Symbol echoing? Why didn't I think of that, although max echo is what, 30%?

[waxen nymph]

I think it's still good

It should give you faster rate

Possible more aoe

[alpine canopy]

VR has a node that guarantees an echo with your next skill

[ionic inlet]

If it does, mm m m mmm, better questionmark.

[polar spire]

i wouldnt be surprised if mike is checking the code himself LOL

[ionic inlet]

If it does, question is.. When would this apply in the calculation and how good would it be haha

I really want to drop the 56% gain rate and have 13 or 26% to cast bolts - I'm stacking cast speed with Healing Hands, like a lot

[dawn grotto]

pretty nooby question but is there a way how to set hammer throw to just stand when I use it? if I put my mouse cursor to far and press hammer throw then my character "move" and then throw hammer which is kind of ehhh

[waxen nymph]

In the option menu

[polar spire]

yea should be a setting for that

pretty standard arpg mechanic nowadays

either a setting or a keybind

[turbid dome]

I can not wait for Wasd 2morrow

[polar spire]

apparently, in 7 hours streamers can start streaming the game, even if it isnt playable, and twitch drops will be available for that

[cloud tundra]

I've looked into the build-planner for voidknight and find the new Passives and skill-changes pretty awesome.

So the Idea for a better Shadow Beacon build pops back up into my head. does anyone find an idea for it? I was thinking about erasing-strike voidbeam spammer, coupled with dev-orbs (also as a dot use) and using smite as a spammer. Or maybe multistrike with void-smite as a sword-procc?

I'm not yet ready with a planner for the idea.

Any Thoughts on it?

[polar spire]

search "shadow beacon" top right, ive seen a few people talk about it

[analog ingot]

I've been making a build for pretty much exactly this so far today

[cloud tundra]

and it seems the "all the points into VK" seems also pretty obvious

[cloud tundra]

love it. I was playing it in 1.1 and it was fun. played it on crit. but with all the DoT changes...

[keen rock]

So who's excited for what skills? I've been making about 3 builds a day but I'm digging what I see for Sentinel, and I've never really done sentinel, so I think todays the day.

[hidden dock]

Going to make a true eternal spin to win, never have to push another button as the entire world gets beaten up by my balls and my big rod

[keen rock]

hah

[cloud tundra]

would you go smite useage to get more void beams? or do you go another route?

[hidden dock]

well the only other way to get void beams is well two skills

both with cooldowns

(well erasing strike can get it turned off but otherwise yeah)

(and I guess so can shield rush but then it costs %hp and that doesn't seem worth)

[keen rock]

Yeah I was looking at a void DoT build but I'm not quite sure. Orbs can do DoT, but it's spell damage near enemies. Smite->Fissure can do DoT, but you usually don't wanna be terribly close. Are the time rot changes enough to make it good? Because I kinda was thinking that too, but I wasn't sure the best skill to apply it. Spin2Win could get stacks quickly with extra duration, but it's a little light on damage multipliers. I feel like Rive is weirdly decent, but I don't see much synergy with other skills..

[hidden dock]

Time Rot can do funny things

I made a Time Rot build then went to slip and forgot it (and forgot to save it lol)

It had some pretty funny numbers

[shell wedge]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZ6V0v8B

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (87) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (3)

General:

▸ Health: 2,552, Regen: 56/s
▸ Mana: 189.51, Regen: 11.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 9 Str / 7 Dex / 7 Int / 7 Att / 106 Vit
▸ Resistances: 83% / 83% / 83% / 70% / 69% / 126% / 126%
▸ EHP: 12,809 / 12,809 / 12,809 / 19,186 / 14,188 / 11,430 / 11,430

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 36%, Threshold: 765
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,238)
▸ Block Chance: 64%, Mitigation: 60% (3,048)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Frenzy, Haste, Inspiration, Void Essence (3/3), Warpath

Used skills:

• Warpath (21)
• Devouring Orb (25)
• Anomaly (21)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Volatile Reversal (21)

Used unique items:

• Countenance of Majasa
• Siphon of Anguish
• Brewmaster's Buckle
• Shattered Worlds
• Siphon of Anguish
• Atrophy

[hidden dock]

and keeping it at 10 stacks was trivial

[shell wedge]

here is a dOrb time rot dot build

time rot is slowly climbing as I minorly edit it over time

55k time rot atm

[analog ingot]

I was mostly using smite via multistrike. Honestly the void beams was just sort of because I dont really know what to do as the last skill so I just put erasing strike cause it was cheap due to shadow beacon and for "free" beams and an execute

[shell wedge]

but it's closer to like 65-70k

[hidden dock]

I got mine to 100k in theory

[shell wedge]

without dOrb suffering

[hidden dock]

But in reality most things die before that ticks

[keen rock]

I mean there's a couple considerations; penetration, duration, and actual sustainable stats for time rot

[cloud tundra]

hm... yeah. something aroudn that. i need to look into it

[hidden dock]

Well new time rot is weird

you don't actaully need much duration

[covert phoenix]

why pick this shield over 36% more damage

[keen rock]

Yeah you want to stack chance and aspd/cspd, and slow chance too

[hidden dock]

since you can just keep sustaining the 10

^

[frozen bluff]

is timerot warpath a thing?

[shell wedge]

yes

timerot, warpath and dOrb kind of work together

[hidden dock]

the awkardest thing is actaully the "Throw attack speed"

[shell wedge]

very well

[stable ice]

anyone able to help me combine 2 filters?

[alpine canopy]

Oh yeah, and symbols passive buff effect is at a minimum some additional damage

[hidden dock]

since it means anything that's not generic attack speed is dead

[keen rock]

yeah I noticed that

[frozen bluff]

do you have a basic build for it, I want to try and make one but would love a guideline in case I mess up

[shell wedge]

my link is a bit up, you can just edit whatever you want on it.

[hidden dock]

my kingdom for Skill Speed Dronus

[keen rock]

Hah no kidding

[shell wedge]

Frenzy and Time Bubble are your best friend

[frozen bluff]

This one right?

[hidden dock]

yeeeep

[shell wedge]

ye

[keen rock]

you can actually get generic aspd/cspd on the forgotten knight sword

[frozen bluff]

tysm

[keen rock]

It's still not a great weapon buuut

[hidden dock]

Yeah but then you're stuck using a sword

[covert phoenix]

this shield is a super weird choice

[frozen bluff]

how does timerot work with warpath and devouring orb? Just curious on the synergy.

[hidden dock]

And frankly 2h is best option

TImerot is amazing with warpath

[keen rock]

For timerot? 2h is? Is dual wield not comparable?

[covert phoenix]

double siphon is even weirder

[shell wedge]

Warpath has a void line, which gives you timerot, also free 20% block

[hidden dock]

AND 50% void damage

[analog ingot]

Isn't the eruption node for dorbs not good? It doesn't explode, it shoots a spread of projectiles that mostly miss or something like that?

[hidden dock]

(int's global increased but you take it)

[covert phoenix]

warpath doesn't give timerot

[hidden dock]

apoclypse whirl

+30%

[shell wedge]

^

[hidden dock]

(also bleed and ingite converted)

[covert phoenix]

... it's not global

therefore it's worthless

[hidden dock]

so path of fire also helps

[shell wedge]

no, but because you're spinning, it's just another avenue to proc it

[hidden dock]

incorrect, it doesn't help with OTHER sources

[covert phoenix]

you are incorrect

[hidden dock]

what you're ultimately after is 10 stacks wtih whirling

[covert phoenix]

timerot chance on skill tree doesn't do anything

[keen rock]

something I've never been clear on, regarding void rift. How does that work? If you have 3 active devouring orbs, and something dies nearby, do all 3 void rift something? Or does only 1? Do all three grow their "size and damage" of the void rift at the same time?

[covert phoenix]

except the one in abyssal echoes

which is global

and that you cleverly avoided

[hidden dock]

I mean you always take echos with warpath

you generate them for free...

[covert phoenix]

yes, and since it's not ignite, nobody care about your weak timerot stacks

[ionic inlet]

Very minimal but yeah, actually using Holy Aura to get more dmg and buff healing hands bolts even more, cause of the "lvl buff skills is applied to more multiplier"

[covert phoenix]

only the timerot stacks from big skills are relevant

[hidden dock]

timerot warpath build probably just doesn't bother with devouring orb

OR

only uses it if you have 90 vit

and just use it to constantly summon exploding orbs for stacks of Judgement (and Void Adept)

(or if you can't fit another useful skill in there)

such as symbols if you can fit it

[keen rock]

How does the void rift damage/area growth work? And do multiple orbs each void rift if something nearby dies?

[frozen bluff]

I am confused so does timerot and devouring not work with warpath?

[hidden dock]

timerot is great for warpath

and warpath is great for timerot

[covert phoenix]

no

[analog tide]

What is potentially stronger- a forge guard 2h+ shield build focused on minion ignite/bleed dmg with attunement stacking and using warpath vs forge guard 2h+shield focused on personal warpath damage and strength but also using minions

[frozen bluff]

😭

[hidden dock]

devouring orbs are great... for hit warpath

[covert phoenix]

people saying warpath timerot is a thing are the people who don't understand scaling

timerot is looking for skills with a lot of "more multipliers" in it, and currently, it's devouring orb

[keen rock]

@Keyen warpath's timerot GAINS the benefit of the timerot bonuses in the passive tree, but it does not CONTRIBUTE to the benefits in the passive tree

[covert phoenix]

not sure what you means by the "benefits of the timerot bonus", but if you mean rot grip, you are wrong

[keen rock]

No I'm not

[covert phoenix]

of course you are

[keen rock]

unless Rot Grip is different from literally

every other passive in the entire game

[covert phoenix]

rot grip is using your global chance

not the chance of the skill used

[keen rock]

Yes, you need to read the full sentence I said

[shell wedge]

The point of warpath isn't to do time rot, it can do timerot, but that is not it's main function. It is simply to spin and provide block chance, it is not to scale time rot.

[south zephyr]

Yeah but Warpath has almost no DoT More scaling

So any stacks it inflicts are useless

[covert phoenix]

your sentence explained nothing therefore I made a clear assumption that you validated right after

[hidden dock]

and... orb has one

[south zephyr]

It's good for block chance, and flat spell damage on spell hit builds, but terrible for DoT builds

[keen rock]

I said that the extra timerot that is applied by warpath (eg, the +30% chance from Apocalypse Whirl) gains the benefits that are granted by Rot Grip, but that extra +30% chance does not contribute to the bonuses in Rot Grip because it is local chance

[south zephyr]

And QoL with constant movement

[hidden dock]

^

[south zephyr]

For brainless playstyle

[hidden dock]

manual casting devouring orb suuucks

[covert phoenix]

but in which universe stacks applied by warpath are relevant?

[hidden dock]

well how are you applying them?

[south zephyr]

Ideally it will never apply TimeRot since the stacks it would put on deal very little damage compared to any other skill

Is Keyens point

I think

[shell wedge]

I assume like any smart development, any stronger dot that appears overtakes the weak dots, so warpath isn't to apply timerot, it is just to move and provide block. So that your dOrb can apply the Time Rot stacks.

[keen rock]

In universes where you are not able to maintain max stats otherwise

[south zephyr]

Probably shouldn't speak for others

[covert phoenix]

ok, so you are talking about timerot warpath, why bother pretending it's not?

[hidden dock]

???

I never did

[south zephyr]

Basically the TimeRot node is wasted, or should be with a solid skill for applying, like dOrb

[hidden dock]

ONly time I talked about non-DoT warpath was answering someone's question

[keen rock]

Warpath doesn't have huge damage multipliers, admittedly, but you could potentially eek out an 80% more damage from Whirling Steel. Not as high as some other skills, but still not nothing.

[shell wedge]

time rot node is literally on the path to auto casting abyssal echos

so it is not wasted

[south zephyr]

'Several people are typing' strikes again

[covert phoenix]

devouring orb is x10 damage multiplier, so yes, 80% is nothing

[south zephyr]

Ahhh hadn't checked the build if it's for AE autocast that's fine

[keen rock]

Where are you getting 10x?

[covert phoenix]

from devouring orb

[robust lake]

warpath bad, both hit and dot

[hidden dock]

and to be fair, I alreayd pointed out that part of warpath IS abyssal echos

[south zephyr]

Probably all consuming

[hidden dock]

you mean 1.1x

[south zephyr]

WP is alright for Smite Proc

[hidden dock]

vs 80% increased

[covert phoenix]

no

I mean what I said

[keen rock]

Where are you getting 10x?

[hidden dock]

^

[covert phoenix]

with 8 orbs

[hidden dock]

most of the modifers are for HIT damage

my guy

[hidden dock]

that's -6% per node

[hidden dock]

and more HIT damage

eternal decay yes

[covert phoenix]

where do you see hit damage

nowhere

[quiet hearth]

I wish judgement was the special skill for pally instead of the aura

[shell wedge]

it is both hit and dot, and minus ailment

[hidden dock]

time rot is ailment...

[shell wedge]

But the issue here is that we are never directly casting dOrb in this hypotheical build

since we are just spinning

[south zephyr]

Key tends to be a hard optimizer FYI

[covert phoenix]

(1.7/1.2 being the base 20% pen)

[hidden dock]

plus you're still stuck direct casting dOrb and ew

[south zephyr]

I expect the build will perform fine up through moderately high corruption

[shell wedge]

how does all consuming work with dark moon?

[keen rock]

What's the 1,7 and 1,2 in there?

I get the others

[shell wedge]

"When you directly cast non-oribiting"

[hidden dock]

so in short, it doesn't

[covert phoenix]

50% pen assuming you shred 20%

[keen rock]

Ah

That's all interesting sure

[hidden dock]

hence me me saying "stuck direct casting" and thus "ew"

[south zephyr]

VR orb pull should make it feel all right

[keen rock]

and you'll be applying 1 time rot a second at 10x damage, which, again, isn't nothing. But maybe not as great as you think.

[hidden dock]

I mean technically they'll have the mini orbs which can apply

if they're getting the shred node

[shell wedge]

also it is not 10x it is 4.6x for timerot

[south zephyr]

Quite a bit more with global time rot chance and some AE shenanigans probably

[south zephyr]

?

How ya figure?

[keen rock]

Nah, global time rot chance doesn't apply to Devouring Orb unless you're hitting with it

[south zephyr]

He already accounted for the less ailment

[shell wedge]

Since the ailment less is 6% per dOrb

[keen rock]

So I guess if you dunk it on them, sure

[shell wedge]

you're right

[keen rock]

He already added the 6% less in the above math

[shell wedge]

I'm silly

[south zephyr]

AE rift trigger shenanigans

And temporal velocity

[keen rock]

Ahh, I see. So AE chain cast to void rift

[south zephyr]

You can get a lot of hits out fast

[spiral sun]

Heyo -- which sent builds are you all going towards initially?

[keen rock]

Well, credit where it's do, potentially good damage, very active

[shell wedge]

just not fit for a spin to win build

[keen rock]

just gotta cast dorb 10 times, then abyssal rift 10 times

and you'll be doing tons of damage

[south zephyr]

Like I said, hard optimizer, not going to be able to pass up the 10x

[hidden dock]

Eh

[keen rock]

Is it optimized if it takes 10 seconds to do damage?

[south zephyr]

Quite a bit less than that with echoes optimization and some other tricks

[hidden dock]

Are you actually making up any time?

[shell wedge]

I just wanted to design something 99% afkable

[crisp sequoia]

Anyone think there will be a decent erasing strike time rot build? I have seen a few builds focused on time rot and a few focused on erasing strike, but nothing combing the two.

[hidden dock]

since you have to hard cast orbs each couple packs?

[south zephyr]

And the build should work great for that

I do agree with him on using Forgotten Knight Shield though

[hidden dock]

I guess it might be good for bossing

[south zephyr]

The less void damage on hit is amazing with ele void conversion

Also 36% more damage is nice

[shell wedge]

I will try both the set and majasa shield

[hidden dock]

using a shield in VK should be a bannable offense tbh

[shell wedge]

probably have a shield swap for bosses

[hidden dock]

maybe even straigth up account deletion offense

[shell wedge]

just swap to a shield with the set effect for bosses

[south zephyr]

Shush non VK Caster

[hidden dock]

If we had a fun Spell to cast maybe

but orbs are the height of busy work and echoes get boring after a bit

[shell wedge]

amadora put together a funny build yesterday, I think that'll be my backup build when I tire of VK

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ompKbKrB a bit changed from the original

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (28) / Paladin (65)

General:

▸ Health: 2,550, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 1,817.38, Regen: 9.84/s
▸ Ward Retention: 42%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 7 Dex / 21 Int / 100 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 120% / 110% / 100% / 36% / 94% / 68% / 104%
▸ EHP: 15,018 / 15,018 / 15,018 / 13,474 / 15,808 / 14,035 / 15,018

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 41%, Threshold: 675
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 38% (2,089)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Lightning, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Frenzy, Haste, Inspiration, Holy Aura (Active)

Used skills:

• Lunge (21)
• Holy Aura (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Smite (25)
• Judgement (21)

Used unique items:

• Devotion
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Hand of Judgement
• Shattered Worlds

[hidden dock]

also Erasing Strike is a spell

Even if the game refuses to accept it

[quiet hearth]

engi, Im fooling around with tht dumb build and forgive me for what I am about to do

[south zephyr]

Orb Smite WP is on my list to try

50 flat spell damage and easy block cap is a sweet combo

[shell wedge]

judgment suck whole screen every second, proc smite and generate all of the ward

[south zephyr]

Unlimited Tank Works

[hidden dock]

but yeah my initial build is technically a spell build wince the real star will be auto-casted hit dOrb

(mostly so I can get those hit nodes behind teh orbit and auto-cast is right next to it so why not)

[turbid dome]

Which dumb build

The 10,000+ health one?

[analog tide]

Can a warpath build focused on personal warpath dmg be really that good? What about a new 1.2 FG build with 2h+shield and high block, smite proc, minion proc etc

[quiet hearth]

the usual one I yammer about, I just realized that erasing strike has a node that says 75% more dot dmg and 50% more dmg in general

[turbid dome]

Yes

[hidden dock]

damn what's the eHP there?

[south zephyr]

IME it is vastly better as a combination of buff and proc skill rather than scaling damage itself

You probably can make a workable build that way though

[quiet hearth]

so, if I spec into no CD, I can stack time rot,poison, ignite, electrify all at once now

[gloomy jasper]

Phalanx + Sigeons auto throw javelins and shields, too jank?

[south zephyr]

It's my plan

Should be funny

Maybe even good

[hidden dock]

get the axe throw stuff too

[south zephyr]

Get the Damage reflect idols for +15 Flat shield throw damage

[hidden dock]

just for more auto throws

[south zephyr]

Lots of them

[turbid dome]

Bonk… bonk… bonk

[south zephyr]

Take Siege Barrage and the next node for +6 Javelins and pray your mana survived

[turbid dome]

I like the idea

[quiet hearth]

just dump the entire mana pool on someone and watch them fizzle

[turbid dome]

World splitter for infinite mana?

[spiral sun]

I'm going the CDR route on that, was mucking around yesterday and found minions were preventing sigeon procs. Ensured Rygar was disabled, anyone have experience w/ this?

[quiet hearth]

nah gotta use the dumb set sadly, if only there was a way to convert ES to fire we'd be cooking

[south zephyr]

Use Symbols instead of RoS?

[spiral sun]

Yeah had both, dumped the RoS entirely, felt better.

[turbid dome]

Real

[quiet hearth]

But Ive got 500% time rot chance without gear

[south zephyr]

RoS can block hits and you want to be hit

Anti-synergy

[shell wedge]

1k more multi time rot sounds fun

[south zephyr]

Vengeance Jav Shield Throw HH and Symbols

Symbols makes block capping trivial

Opens up some affix space

[spiral sun]

Yup, I had RoS because I was greedy with Block Effectiveness for Crit Multi conversion, but not worth it.

[quiet hearth]

Ive been tinkering because of the changes, with echoes and vengeance spam I legit thing I can get almost to 200 stacks of at least 4 dots

[hidden dock]

yeah symbols is how I got my paladin vengeance build up to 100% block

(and almost all the block effectiveness I really need)

[south zephyr]

Pally Vengeance? Doing Flame Burst Divine Volcanus or something?

Wait not Volc

[hidden dock]

no that's for coward

[south zephyr]

Need Shield

[hidden dock]

I use shield

because game is coward and won't let me dual wield vengeance mace

[south zephyr]

Ohhhhh

Lmao pure Vengeance

[hidden dock]

(I can be trust with +10 to a skill)

[gloomy jasper]

I was initially thought lunge, but I assume HH is autotriggered + traversal

[south zephyr]

I wonder if that's workable

[hidden dock]

it's stupidly tanky

even at 2.7k I have 50k eHP

(well 25k vs non-phys/phys DoT)

[south zephyr]

Does that include the Vengeance DR?

[hidden dock]

no

[south zephyr]

So more like 75K

[hidden dock]

but I took the one that reduces it to 18% anyways

so I can triple riposte

[south zephyr]

Bolster

Additional 25%

For everything I think

Including DoT

[hidden dock]

.> <.<

So I didn't take that

[south zephyr]

Fail

[hidden dock]

I went into armor shred instead

[south zephyr]

Do not pass go

[hidden dock]

mind you mostly because I wasn't scaling crit

my main issue is that I only have 1000% phys and 175 flat

[south zephyr]

Hmmm 1750 is sad

[hidden dock]

(and vengeance itself gets next to nothing)

well I guess it gets 50% more but yeah

[south zephyr]

Yeah but you want to be at like 20k+ to feel good

[hidden dock]

mm

well like I said triple riposte

[south zephyr]

At least for 300c+

Oh and 15% more from pally

[hidden dock]

so I guess technically it's what, that 50% more and then x3 at the end

oh that too

[gloomy jasper]

Was what I was thinking for vengeance

[hidden dock]

oh wait that's factoered in

[gloomy jasper]

The aspd is something that I am reconsidering

[hidden dock]

ah I have disarmeing at 2

and gladiator at 3

so actually it's 50% more, 45% more and 20% more

oh and then 60% more

[fluid sparrow]

I do want to ask... Will it be easy to cast 8 easily? Just wondering etc! (Haven't played much with devouring orb, so no clue)

[hidden dock]

because of the node to the right

that's mine

using mace and at 100% block I'd be stupid not to get the two nodes

[ionic inlet]

@alpine canopy @waxen nymph Ok I think this is the best you can do, all uniques fits really nicely as well.

Behold! Explosive Symbols Of Hope with Divine Bolts across your screen
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QdjwN3ao

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Paladin (93)

General:

▸ Health: 2,767, Regen: 236.9/s
▸ Mana: 492.46, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 136%, Regen: 18/s
▸ Attributes: 31 Str / 15 Dex / 62 Int / 88 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 101% / 81% / 81% / 80% / 67% / 81% / 77%
▸ EHP: 7,040 / 7,040 / 7,040 / 10,852 / 6,519 / 7,040 / 7,040

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 698
▸ Dodge Chance: 2% (60)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 64% (5,119)
▸ Block Chance: 20%, Mitigation: 25% (450)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Throwing

Buffs:

▸ Divine Essence (3/3), Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Smite (21)
• Symbols of Hope (29)
• Healing Hands (25)
• Javelin (21)
• Holy Aura (21)

Used unique items:

• Orian's Descent
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Dominance of the Tundra
• Swaddling of the Erased
• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Blood of the Exile
• Mad Alchemist's Ladle
• Flayer's Pride

[hidden dock]

I could probably take out shred chance and 1 armor shred booster for the defense node

if I get a max roll mace I'd put the armor shred booster back at 2

[gloomy jasper]

Ah yeah, there is a slight diff since my plan was w/ phalanx spear, so gladiator is useless

[hidden dock]

the real funny is the build having an endurance threshold of 1283 lmao

[gloomy jasper]

(Without iron blade bleed investment)

[hidden dock]

(1222 at average rolls and 1161 at min)

(min rolls hurt the most however lol my eHP craters if I I have absolute min rolls lol)

(meanwhile max rolls don't do much really)

also I guess I have a little extra damage coming from healing hands

which is just constantly procing

(I had nothing better to do with a skill slot so why not free constant heals?)

[covert phoenix]

You use reversal for guaranteed echo, so in final you need to cast 4 spheres before eating them

[gloomy jasper]

HH too good for cheap

[hidden dock]

yeah

well no

it honestly doesn't do a LOT for me

does make me take -10% void and necrotic tho

[south zephyr]

Healing, an extra melee hit and damage reduction

[hidden dock]

so I'm slightly harder to kill

[south zephyr]

It's not nothing

[polar spire]

[south zephyr]

Also a traversal skill

[hidden dock]

yeah not nothing just not like game changing

not for me

I'm not selfcasting lmao

[covert phoenix]

+1 melee hit is pretty busted

unless WP builds...

[hidden dock]

it's casting on vengeance/riposte lol

[south zephyr]

Ooooh and on Riposte is a lot

Wait does it trigger on Riposte?

[shell wedge]

Amadora, it is a funny build, I want to see it succeed

[south zephyr]

I wouldn't think it did

[hidden dock]

it triggers 100% on melee hit

[polar spire]

iron blades are also great if you run anything that procs on melee hits like a on melee attack effect on unique weapons, or even just divine bolts in paladin, or holy aura flame burst in paladin, all can proc off iron blades

[hidden dock]

It BETTER or my riposte does no damage

[south zephyr]

I really hope they make Build Selector a thing one day

[hidden dock]

also 63% more damage from that one that gets bonus damage from buff levels lmao

[polar spire]

jank builds like this are my forte

[waxen nymph]

Not sure at all Madle is the play here

You have 46 Flat Spell for Divine Flare and Smite

[hidden dock]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ApDjxxwA if you want to tweak it newbosauras

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (39) / Forge Guard (8) / Paladin (58)

General:

▸ Health: 2,732, Regen: 355.2/s
▸ Mana: 142.51, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 12%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 94 Str / 6 Dex / 6 Int / 11 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 122% / 90% / 90% / 85% / 91% / 68% / 68%
▸ EHP: 25,965 / 25,965 / 25,965 / 52,823 / 25,965 / 24,266 / 24,266

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 66%, Threshold: 1,222
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (24)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 78% (10,142)
▸ Block Chance: 102%, Mitigation: 57% (2,730)

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire / Melee, Spell

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (5/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Vengeance (29)
• Holy Aura (21)
• Symbols of Hope (21)
• Lunge (21)
• Healing Hands (21)

Used unique items:

• Renegade's Will
• Code of an Erased Sentinel

[hidden dock]

it's very much jank/a meme (and yes I know I left a lot of slots open in my idols, that's on purpose)

[keen rock]

Okay so maybe I'm missing something but is judgement->consecrated aura potentially quite good now?
Aura is added 375%/s base, then the judgement skill is Anointed (* 2) Purifying Flame (* 2.2) Pious Offering ( * 3, at just 400 max mana) Javelin->Sacred Forge (* 1.6) for a 12s duration aura?
Otherwise, 7920%/s?

and it gets +1 flat per 5% healing effectiveness, which you can get everywhere

[ionic inlet]

Yes but I could make use of the int I had to get a ridiculous amount of cast speed.
From other things I looked at I could get about 45 more flat by using some other wand, and I'd lose out on the 48% more

[hidden dock]

(the passive tree was also left efforted because I just wanted to mess wtih the skills lol)

[waxen nymph]

48% More of is 0 is still 0 😏

It looks nice

[ionic inlet]

[keen rock]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oz5qNknB
Maybe I'm crazy

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Paladin (91)

General:

▸ Health: 3,818, Regen: 889.44/s
▸ Mana: 839.86, Regen: 10.32/s
▸ Ward Retention: 6%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 6 Str / 3 Dex / 3 Int / 138 Att / 23 Vit
▸ Resistances: 241% / 94% / 124% / 78% / 82% / 81% / 81%
▸ EHP: 19,862 / 19,862 / 19,862 / 33,415 / 19,862 / 19,862 / 19,862

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 62%, Threshold: 1,749
▸ Armor Mitigation: 69% (6,308)
▸ Block Chance: 68%, Mitigation: 44% (1,535)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, Throwing, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Javelin (20)
• Judgement (21)
• Smite (20)
• Symbols of Hope (22)
• Healing Hands (20)

Used unique items:

• Orian's Sun Seal
• Rahyeh's Light
• Devotion
• Firestarter's Torch
• Atrophy
• Brewmaster's Buckle

[waxen nymph]

I have a few questions but I need to clean my kitchen and dinner table first

[polar spire]

its always been good, even after both nerfs judgement got, which were mainly for its slam side of things, i remember people doing 300k dps with the aura

[ionic inlet]

Just keep in mind that cast speed would be all your damage rather than cast once every second or something

[south zephyr]

Is it sad I'm super hype for skill mtx

[keen rock]

not at all, support the game if you love it

[ionic inlet]

Yeah dw ask when you got time

[keen rock]

(and can afford it)

[polar spire]

if it makes you super hype, that just means they did a good job on it, and are deserving of it

[south zephyr]

Rainbow Smite color the screen

[polar spire]

i hope we get twitch drops with purple skill mtx each season

[sudden sigil]

yeah thats my starter, with the mana change its real easy to keep up max power even with like 1k mana

[keen rock]

Yeah. And you can combine it with Smite-Fissure + Devotion. Dump mana on big aura, regain mana with smite having increased cast speed and damage.

[sudden sigil]

ill be going vengeance over smite though

[keen rock]

That'll work just fine

[hidden dock]

vengeance can regen stupid amounts of mana if you spec for it

[orchid flint]

ready to download tomorrow's patch

[hidden dock]

I left myself 8 points to fix mana if it becomes a problem

(also to get another 10% missing hp heal lmao)

[alpine canopy]

I concur with the ladle comments

[hidden dock]

also rude

it's 50% more of 1750 😐

[south zephyr]

Different convo chaos

[warped blade]

heck yea lets go

[south zephyr]

Wait outside time and faith is there other Mana Regen in Vengeance?

[hidden dock]

chest

[sudden sigil]

chest prefix and sentinel tree = 27 mana per vengeance

[hidden dock]

I thought about taking it over some strength

[orchid flint]

nice upload lol

[hidden dock]

even the T5+time and faith is probably enough for me

or even neither

since my only costs are activating symbols/aura/using lunge to last hit/traverse

(the real benefit for me is even more healing)

[south zephyr]

Oh that's silly

And probably unnecessary

[hidden dock]

if I end up NOT needing mana regen (or even -cost on hands... but that's unlikely? I'd need to it to be at least 2 or less even with the node)

then I could take Prayer of the fallen for more damage/healing

but it's increased not more so I'd only take it if I had no need of the mana at all

I did always wonder, does Divine Catalsyt and Seraph blade interact?

like does it make it scale with melee? pretty sure no but never tested

[sudden sigil]

think you just lose the scaling completely

[polar spire]

i have never seen an upload speed higher than 20mbps no matter where ive lived or what internet package i got

[sudden sigil]

divine bolt scales but it never converts to melee

[orchid flint]

need fiber for upload speed

[hidden dock]

that's what i figured

and since all spell damage scaling is converted to melee scaling it just ends up with nothing

[shell wedge]

I did a thing

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8dVJZVA we're at like 500k time rot damage, silly erasing strike

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (77) / Paladin (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,218, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 199.51, Regen: 11.6/s
▸ Ward Retention: 14%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 7 Dex / 7 Int / 12 Att / 8 Vit
▸ Resistances: 104% / 124% / 84% / 20% / 40% / 8% / 48%
▸ EHP: 2,646 / 2,646 / 2,646 / 2,256 / 2,612 / 1,605 / 2,110

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 400
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (28)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 44% (2,619)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 26%

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Frenzy, Haste, Inspiration, Void Essence (3/3)

Used skills:

• Erasing Strike (25)
• Anomaly (21)
• Abyssal Echoes (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Lunge (24)

Used unique items:

• Shattered Worlds
• Siphon of Anguish
• Siphon of Anguish
• Atrophy
• Paranoia

[shell wedge]

it's missing another 800% more multi in it's calculations

[analog steppe]

you know the set doesnt work like that right?

[shell wedge]

I'm not using the set

I only want the void damage

not any of the set bonuses

[cerulean sorrel]

Yo gamers, is warpath leveling still mad slow compared to erasing strike or rive?

[waxen nymph]

Yeah dw ask when you got time

[south zephyr]

Unless twink gear, yeah probably

[ionic inlet]

Hater! I really liked I could double dip with everything even the int from that belt, felt really nice.
Didn't feel like I had a bunch of options when it came to the wand

@waxen nymph Seems like I don't have permission to write in those x)

[waxen nymph]

Wow weird

[analog steppe]

wheres your extra 800 more coming from?

[shell wedge]

erasing strike has 400% chance to time rot

and as it is the source of time rot

[analog steppe]

that doesnt count

[south zephyr]

Not global I don't think

And it only counts Global

[ionic inlet]

What did you post in the thread?

[shell wedge]

I see

[polar spire]

i see that good doctor thread lmao

[waxen nymph]

So Self Cast Smite + HH ? and a touch of Divine Flare

[analog steppe]

skill based time rot chance is not factored into the passive

[last ember]

This looks pretty cool

[polar spire]

@ judd

[timid pendant]

What's the paladin build that was featured in the trailer of throwing lightning spears?

[analog steppe]

also personally I wouldnt planner with shattered worlds ever

[south zephyr]

Leeching 250k sounds good

[ionic inlet]

Oh well it's doable if you swap around the points a bit, but I tried to only cast HH -> Divine bolts and smite would be triggered from belt and jav

[analog steppe]

gotta beat uber aberroth to get it >.< so might as well planner for beating him in the first place

[waxen nymph]

Oh wait, you just cast HH and have Javcasting Smite for you ??

[hidden dock]

I already beat him 5 times

[shell wedge]

@analog steppe It's just a silly lil theorycraft

[ionic inlet]

Maybe a bit of both, work in progress I suppose.

[analog steppe]

i know its silly, but even my silly theorycraft time rot planners have their limits 😛

[polar spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/AKlK3pXQ
@slow plaza you should play this jank paladin i made, that removes judgement hit damage and aura, to vacuum suck enemies on screen in, slam down lightning electrify smites, and uses the % mana consume to keep mana low for devotion. has ward on traversal on boots to gen 3000+ ward per lunge, and double lunge charges

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (28) / Paladin (65)

General:

▸ Health: 2,513, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 1,653.12, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 30%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 15 Int / 70 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 96% / 86% / 116% / 76% / 94% / 76% / 78%
▸ EHP: 13,057 / 13,057 / 13,057 / 16,059 / 13,744 / 13,057 / 13,057

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 29%, Threshold: 652
▸ Armor Mitigation: 36% (1,917)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Lightning, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Frenzy, Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Lunge (20)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Healing Hands (20)
• Smite (24)
• Judgement (20)

Used unique items:

• Devotion
• Phantom Grip
• Phantom Grip
• Hand of Judgement
• Stormcarved Testament

[ionic inlet]

Yes (and the belt will cast smite as well on HH procs)

[analog steppe]

and I think putting a 1 LP uberroth drop is beyond silly

[waxen nymph]

Btw for Divine Bolts you need to heal yourself and you cannot heal yourself if you are at full life

You need a way to never be full life

[analog steppe]

let alone a 2

[shell wedge]

and even then shattered world doesn't add too much, since it doesn't amplify frenzy in the calc

[ionic inlet]

Oh really now

[waxen nymph]

Usually the Low Life Affixe

[south zephyr]

Sacrifice ftw

Or blood mage

[shell wedge]

Just swapped it to erased sentinel, easy

[hidden dock]

I just prefer to kill allies

[waxen nymph]

Yeah Blood Mage Gloves would be sweet

[ionic inlet]

I don't remember that part? It just worked last time I just spammed it to test

[hidden dock]

so I can get my 100% healing

[ionic inlet]

The ward tech needed you to lose life iirc

[polar spire]

the new blood mage gloves activate so much new fun stuff, since its self damage, even though not a hit, but self DAMAGE and not a health consume, actually activates so much stuff

[south zephyr]

Genuinely curious about what

I'm unfamiliar with that tech

[waxen nymph]

Yup

[terse hedge]

is Divine Flare going to actually do damage? or just a meme?

[ionic inlet]

And for bolt, that I didn't know, hm ok

[polar spire]

for one, its fantastic for endurance threshold orian seal divine flare spamming

[analog steppe]

14 tier weavers idols should also be toned down in planners lol... we have the odds for them now

[ionic inlet]

I sure as heck tried to scale it

[waxen nymph]

I think it can be nice

[polar spire]

blood mage gloves gives righteous fire