🔱┃sentinel

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (35) / Forge Guard (3) / Paladin (75)

General:

▸ Health: 1,626, Regen: 138.77/s
▸ Mana: 215.34, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 227% / 90% / 120% / 0% / 32% / 3% / 24%
▸ EHP: 4,700 / 4,700 / 4,700 / 2,840 / 3,287 / 2,733 / 3,109

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 55%, Threshold: 755
▸ Dodge Chance: 6% (172)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (520)
▸ Block Chance: 63%, Mitigation: 45% (1,631)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Symbols of Hope (29)
• Multistrike (21)
• Healing Hands (21)
• Smite (21)
• Holy Aura (21)

Used unique items:

• Code of an Erased Sentinel
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Firestarter's Torch
• Rahyeh's Light
• Devotion
• Wing Guards

[rancid lantern]

symbol is 25 mana so its a bit of a PITA to spam it

so waiting for 5 stacks seems more reasonable

and you can restore 1 per use

so you only really "wait" for 4

[alpine canopy]

I was also looking at doing a void version and using VR to guarantee echoes, if echoing works decently

[arctic tartan]

Hol up. This phrasing is just "impossible" to trigger, right?

Directly cast Divine Flares which hit a rare enemy or boss have a chance per symbol consumed to recast Divine Flare.
That should be "Divine Flare triggered by directly casting Symbols of Hope", right?

[rancid lantern]

i dont see why the auto cast ones wouldnt work too

[alpine canopy]

Kinda

[radiant vortex]

its so it can't chain off itself

[rancid lantern]

oh right

yeah i think that only works once

I undersand it as just a one time repeat

[arctic tartan]

Yeah, I figure that's the intend of the phrasing but as it is it reads like it's an impossible scenario

[rancid lantern]

ye sounds like a phrasing issue

[gusty abyss]

That is not to bad actually

[radiant vortex]

technically it changes symbols 'combo' from being symbol -> generating -> activate symbol to spend

to symbol -> generating -> divine flare

[rancid lantern]

thats outside of combat, Energized Flare is what im facilitating here

[radiant vortex]

but cos its not actually a combo skill

[rancid lantern]

so you basically smack with multistrike, symbols, repeat

ideally

[radiant vortex]

the language gets mucky when trying to stay uniform with the rest of the game

[alpine canopy]

I'm not sure if that works with all hits or just flare hits, that wording confuses me

[gusty abyss]

but that is with flare only, in density sure, on boss though? 3 times 10% is not going to save it

[rancid lantern]

Multistrike, HH, Smite, Flame Burst

that's a lot of hits

[radiant vortex]

okay so whats like a.. 'good' amount of healing effectiveness

[waxen nymph]

Only Flare

[radiant vortex]

before skills own internals that letools wont track for me

[waxen nymph]

Divine Flare has a chance to gain a Symbol

[rancid lantern]

@waxen nymph ah right

[waxen nymph]

Not you

[alpine canopy]

I was hoping for the fire version to be able to use orian's descent and pop from pack to pack, kill a pack with flare and recharge VR cooldown with a potion and on like that

[gusty abyss]

I missed it as well the first time, that wording is not great

[waxen nymph]

Agree

[alpine canopy]

And for void version just non traversal VR to guarantee echoes

[radiant vortex]

Eh what the hell 1200% healing effectiveness seems decent

[alpine canopy]

Harder to fit orian's descent in the void one due to the int requirement

[waxen nymph]

Why Devotion on Ignite setup ?

[rancid lantern]

just placeholder, ignore that

hmmge

i was kinda hoping on energized flare working with other hits

Thats a bit of a bummer

[alpine canopy]

It's at least a pretty short timeframe between flares once you invest fully

[radiant vortex]

will I throw 15 points to FG just so I can get a minion to use pale ox... >_>

[rancid lantern]

yeah but i either want to maximize flat

or ignite

or electrify ig.

i guess the latter isnt that great here

[slim spire]

DO IT

Manifest armor can be so incredibly tanky

[bitter lintel]

On erasing strike dps. Why does it seem +melee void damage scales more than +melee damage if it has both void and melee tags?

[normal hollow]

is this BOW at 3 LP usable for any build ?

[rancid lantern]

#🔪┃rogue

[radiant vortex]

are you sure its not melee phys

[waxen nymph]

@junior wren @slim spire

Oo

[radiant vortex]

1463% healing effectiveness before countin skills own <_<

[slim spire]

Wait where's that from?

[bitter lintel]

Yes both flat additive. I’m wondering if since my %void damage higher that would make it scale different but I would think both flat void melee and flat melee add first for the base THEN get scaled

[radiant vortex]

yeah but you're not scalin phys dmg

[junior wren]

Volcanus isn't very good

[radiant vortex]

exalted hammer might be quite bis <_< just go for the set item stuff

[bitter lintel]

So +melee flat damage doesn’t matter for erasing strike even with melee tag? Cause that straight physical damage and it would need a “physical” tag to 50:50 split void phys and then scale?

[radiant vortex]

get that +3 limit

[junior wren]

they did the OOPSIE with going fire damage, but FW are physical 😄

[waxen nymph]

Its a nice buff

[waxen nymph]

Yes, also they are playing Void Cleave

[slim spire]

I don't get the Needle recommendation, seems like worse than Apathy's Maw for me?

[waxen nymph]

150 Flat Fire Dmg

[arctic tartan]

+melee flat should be converted to +melee void flat and this scale exactly the same

Added damage without a damage type, such +5 Melee Damage, adds damage of a type that depends on the base damage type of the skill. For example +5 Melee Damage will add 5 Melee Physical Damage to a Physical Melee Attack but 5 Melee Fire Damage to a Fire Melee Attack.

[waxen nymph]

Faster Attack Speed + 9% Base Crit

[slim spire]

Can you please link the guide?

Or is it maxroll?

[waxen nymph]

Its on Maxroll

[slim spire]

Oh ok thanks

[radiant vortex]

yeah I'm askin if he's addin melee phys or just flat <_< cos if it's phys then thats not convertin

[junior wren]

my sheet says, with good affixes it's best in slot. But Weaver's Will 🙂

[waxen nymph]

Also you get Parry

For defense

But yeah, WW is annoying to farm

[analog steppe]

It’s easier now that we don’t need to equip

[junior wren]

the problem was never to equip the item

the problem is having RNG upon RNG upon RNG luck. You need to get high Weaver's Will, then get the correct affixes 2-3 times, then get the correct affix to level up.

[analog steppe]

It’s easier on the other side too, way more drops and chances for higher will amounts

[cerulean dome]

i am probably not alone but I think I have decided to go sentinel yet again..... for the 5th time. javadin lightning. what's the easiest way to geto smite idols early on now? they changed so much none of my previous chars even work lol

[slim spire]

So WW can't have LP at all?

[analog steppe]

I think ppl underestimate how many WW items you can drop with the new tree nodes

[junior wren]

Weaver's Will is LP.

[analog steppe]

WW is a similar mechanic to LP just done differently

With more RNG

[junior wren]

you don't get to choose what affix you slam. RNG chooses for you randomly

[slim spire]

I mean, you can't slam them right

Ya that

[analog steppe]

6% drop rate from every rare mob in echoes is a ton

[waxen nymph]

No real secret
Idols Echo Reward

[cerulean dome]

so we just spamming idol echos and taking the what, grand idol blessing from first mono?

been a while since i played

[waxen nymph]

Never used the blessing tbh

[analog steppe]

If MG just buy em, if CoF can get idol prophecies

[waxen nymph]

But they are fairly easy to get

Sometimes even in the campaign you cn get them

[naive inlet]

Can warpath, orbiting devouring orb and symbols of hope trigger together?

[cerulean dome]

ive never done CoF but MG is just so much more my playstyle of find loot sell loot buy loot finish char -> make new char

[slim spire]

Correct

[worn rapids]

what skill has the best potential to vitality stack with sentinel?

[slim spire]

This is the way of MG

[waxen nymph]

Void Spell get Flat Spell

[analog steppe]

any of the spell or melee void stuff

[waxen nymph]

Not sure what you are asking

[worn rapids]

cool thx

[cerulean dome]

anyone got a cool forge guard cooked up they wanna share?

[paper kettle]

isnt paladin/sentinel GIGA nerfed with the volatile reversal removal? why everyone planning starting those?

[last ember]

Any idea if any erasing strike or bleed javelin builds are gunna be viable for the patch or stll too early

[slim spire]

Because there are multiple pages of changes to them

[elfin warren]

All I see is the Autobomber Devouring Orb build. What we thinking about the selfcast version? https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/time-rot-void-knight-guide

[arctic furnace]

Hey guys! Quick question. If i take a generic 100% more dmg node in a skill’s tree and that skill triggers another skill, i.e. Multistrike proccing smite, does the 100% more dmg apply to smite too?

[cerulean dome]

pretty sure lightning javadin is GIGABUFFED with easy DoT ST and screenwide lightning snaps for clear.

[paper kettle]

ye, and I'm too dumb to understand most of them haha

[naive inlet]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oRWmYNYA something like this for the skills

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (78) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,630, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 158.51, Regen: 13.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 9 Att / 17 Vit
▸ Resistances: 56% / 24% / 24% / 40% / 72% / 17% / 17%
▸ EHP: 1,588 / 1,251 / 1,251 / 1,473 / 1,931 / 1,196 / 1,196

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 34%, Threshold: 498

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Spell, DoT, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/4,Passive)

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Abyssal Echoes (20)
• Devouring Orb (20)
• Anomaly (20)
• Symbols of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

None

[analog steppe]

All consuming will be the way to go for Time Rot builds imo, it’s got good mores and huge aoe

[slim spire]

Hmmmmmm

Using purely FS to get to max FW is a strange strat, ngl

[waxen nymph]

Forge Strike is the best skill to get Forged Weapons

Since you can summon multiples on 1 use

[urban hull]

No, it just works with new skill effects in the tree itself (like fissure for smite). The triggered skill dmg is only based on it's own skill tree

[slim spire]

You only summon multiples vs multiple enemies

On 1 vs 1, it's almost as slow as warpath

Especially with cd

[arctic tartan]

Is multistrike weaving into fs a good way?

Since there is this node on MS that makes forge strike summon extra

[waxen nymph]

Yes very

[slim spire]

Yes it's the fastest way

To summon fw

[arctic tartan]

Hah. Now I feel smart

[slim spire]

Without presummoning them

[arctic tartan]

Figured that out all on my own

[waxen nymph]

Also this

Thats 40% chance to summon a Forged Weapon with Vengeance at 40+ Att

[frank steppe]

Question, I'm new to LE and looking at erasing strike. Dark World Splitter, does it drop from Harbinger of Hatred in the Black Sun? Or does it drop from Reign of Dragons as it's a polearm?

[slim spire]

Yeah he get that, but above he said he only use Vengeance as filler

Just conflicting a bit

But he does get the +chance in FS

But he doesn't get the no cd node

Idk

[woven temple]

easy just roll 500 of these and dump 1500 runes of weaver into making it less of a slog and you will maybe get your item

but probably not

they promised us a way to make rolling WW less of a crapshoot - I'm not seeing it anywhere, do you?

[junior wren]

yeah, meanwhile I can just slam a 3LP apathy, or buy an exalted odachi

[woven temple]

yea

[slim spire]

Well they promised us a lot of things

[woven temple]

LIKE MAKING THE INCREASED REWARDS LENS BASELINE

[slim spire]

It's time for you to join the dark side

We got 0 gold uniques here

[polar spire]

If you use lastepochtools.com it tells you at the bottom of an items card

[keen hare]

What?

[woven temple]

you have no power here!

[slim spire]

Oh hi, I got some questions about you guide

[keen hare]

You take the no cd node

[slim spire]

Mb, missed that

[junior wren]

Amarathy, how confident are you in getting the Clotho's rolled as shown in that guide? 😄

[slim spire]

Anyway, are you really going to generate your fw's purely using fs? How are you sustaining the mana for the 0cd spamming?

[frank steppe]

Thank you.

[waxen nymph]

👀

[keen hare]

It's target farmable so easy to farm a lot of them.

As with most ww items, you'll probably end up getting dual t7

[waxen nymph]

Amarathy biggest problem is being in Australia ...I cant watch his streams anymore

[shell wedge]

@naive inlet a small problem with warpath using warrior's fury is you'll hit some serious mana issues even with good regen and void well

you'll get very few dOrbs since warpath will just consume all of your mana

[keen hare]

actually i moved to the UK but too busy to stream now and i'm heading back to aus for holidays on the 17th 😦

[junior wren]

I think the amounts of skill points on forge strike don't fit.
Starter and Endgame: 2+2 rings + 2 body armor affix + 3 set bonus = 29
Aspirational: 2+2 rings + 2 body armor, but no more set bonus = 26

[keen hare]

you basically use FS a few times at the start of a mono or boss and then never again

[naive inlet]

I see. Ill prob try pathing for the dark nexus node

[slim spire]

But when you use fs in a 1on1 fight, you gotta hit 12 times in a row using it to generate all your dps, which then disappear pretty fast due to shrapnel

[waxen nymph]

Great !! Cant wait to catch you on stream

[polar spire]

Or, and hear me out, you use javelin inbetween forge strike uses

[shell wedge]

If you don't run Warrior's Fury, you're good to go without dark nexus.

[little temple]

No need to put 5 points into it though. 2 points and 45% reduced channel cost make it managable

[keen hare]

they last longer than you think with shrapnel

[shell wedge]

I would take juggernaut stance in every single warpath build, it is so valuable

[woeful storm]

does VK's echo work with indirect uses for direct only guys

[polar spire]

I miss the stances

[shell wedge]

20% block is invaluable, very difficult to get anywhere else outside of shields

[polar spire]

It was what, juggernaut, ephemeral, and ravager?

Back in the old days of sentinel when the ravager aura on void cleave was its own toggleable ability

[shell wedge]

this is more manageable

gives you block and mana with a lot less downside

2 points in quickwind to negate warpaths minus speed

[waxen nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[slim spire]

Do you have test server access? Have you tried using vengeance 100% to generate fw?

[polar spire]

Juggernaut was essentially anvil stance in fg, but wtf did ephemeral do

Give us that back but 70% more

[slim spire]

Current health is not too bad

Wait it got nerfed?

[polar spire]

It got removed

[waxen nymph]

removed

[polar spire]

Is what happened

[slim spire]

Too stronk? 🤣

[polar spire]

I cant remember the reasonings

Juggernaut stance gone too

Ravager stance cooked into void cleave

[shell wedge]

ephemeral stance would've been great sadge

[keen hare]

yes and you can but why not just use FS to build up when it ramps faster?

[waxen nymph]

Not very interactive, and didnt have a skill tree too at the time

There were quite a few skills with no skill tree

[polar spire]

I miss my skill tree less, symbols of hope

[slim spire]

Mainly mana issue, I'm not able to sustain consecutive FS especially in 1on1 situation. I don't know if it's just a 1.2 vs 1.1 thing, but I've asked around here and nobody is able to sustain no cd fs as well without the reversal

[polar spire]

Sigils*

Dam its already wearing me down

[polar spire]

J a v e l i n

I mean you dont have to use it

But its sitting right there

[keen hare]

again, once you hit 12 weapons, you just can use veng to maintain that. Mana never becomes and issues again, and you can always just use venge instead of FS on the ramp if you do run oom and it'll give you mana back

[grand pagoda]

Oh Javelin +.+

[polar spire]

But then you're using shrapnel on that veng ramp

Mana skill issue

[slim spire]

Yes you've told me about javelin, but it's a bandaid, not a fix 🤣

[polar spire]

Hey it adds 60% more to fs too

[slim spire]

I want my 1 button builds maam

[polar spire]

Honestly if you're stacking attune you should have enough mana

My volcanus fire vengeance starter for this season will have 280 mana just from attune stacking

[slim spire]

Yeah it's probably just a difference between late endgame vs early endgame

[pliant fractal]

anyone got an update to 1.2 bleed hammerdin build/guide for a starter build?

[polar spire]

Maybe you can grab the champion sealed item node on the tree and slot in a chest or helm with double mana prefixes to get as a sealed affix slot? That might help

The weaver tree

[slim spire]

I guess it's not becoming an issue for you due to the difference in our equipment I guess. Anyway 1 more question. Healing Hands. Why exactly do you take the jumping thing over this? It's such a ridiculous sustain

[slim spire]

Ya for 1.2 I'm going all out

So should have no problem reaching proper late endgame

[keen hare]

HH is a small dash, VR moves you across the map and gives great buffs, the guide says in several spots that you can use what you want, but sustain should come from your gloves

[winter copper]

The LEGEND

kekeke

[polar spire]

If you're running a forged weapons build i recommend falcon fists, they're quite easy to get 3/4 lp on

[slim spire]

Yeah the guide uses falcon fist, leeching

[polar spire]

Honestly i just use falcon fists on like 80% of my builds now LOL

[junior wren]

they should rename it to anything-other-than-falcon fists

[polar spire]

its like old meteor belt all over again, if you tell the devs, they'll remove the melee fire and attack speed and buff the rest of the stats

[slim spire]

Interesting. Ok then, I guess I use HH first until I slam the falcon then. Let me totally study the guide before I get back to you. Thanks for answering my questions. You're actually a pretty cool guy

[keen hare]

np ❤️

just ping me in here if there are more q's so others can see. It can be tricky when i'm coming from a place of having playtested a lot of this stuff CT but can't reveal stuff because of NDA but there will be a 2 min game play video getting added to teh guide on the 17th

all proceeds go towards buying me a new graphics card so I can move off the lowest quality settings

[analog steppe]

I don’t think falcon fists being a nice melee gloves slot is a bad thing

[polar spire]

AMD

[polar spire]

I use a 6800XT i bought on its launch for $300, runs the game all ultra on 2k

[slim spire]

What's the original vision for the falcon fist actually?

[analog steppe]

It’s not like the actual falcon fists build is any good haha, I mean I was able to push 300 with it but that was with ultra optimized gear (31 points in cinder strike lol)

[slim spire]

Like what is its archetype

[polar spire]

Same as its been, unless you mean meteor belt

Old meteor belt had flat crit on it

[slim spire]

Which build is it built for

[polar spire]

Uhhhh rogue fire skill

[analog steppe]

I mean the actual falcon fists build is unarmed melee cinder strike on rogue

[polar spire]

Cant remember name

[slim spire]

Oh really

[analog steppe]

It just has mana issues

[slim spire]

So it's this right?

[polar spire]

Its like our paladins judgement fist gloves

[analog steppe]

That are really hard to solve

[slim spire]

I see

[polar spire]

I just dont understand why meteor belt had its flat crit removed and then phantom grip rings are allowed to exist

[slim spire]

So it boosts the falcon as well? That's the minions

[slim spire]

Shhhh

[polar spire]

I use double phantom grips on sorc builds lol

Free crit and % mana

[slim spire]

Well ya, do you want to use red rings instead?

[mellow willow]

took all the names

[polar spire]

Why take a melee crit affix on a sentinel weapon when i can run double phantom grips

[slim spire]

It's good to have cheap alternatives

[vital horizon]

is poe2 that bad? seems to have a healthy playerbase rn

[slim spire]

Nah latest patches are pretty ok

[polar spire]

Current league is P A I N

[slim spire]

I would like to believe they are ok due to last epoch

[polar spire]

I got 2 80's on it, but holy

[mellow willow]

idk, 90% retention in a league where they have 65% negative steam reviews and everyone is shitting on them. Its super suspicious, best PoE 1 leaggues didnt have that good retention

[polar spire]

Poe2 launch was far better, current league feels like ruthless

The difference between poe2 ruthless and last epoch with all loot lizard nodes taken in weaver tree gonna feel goooooood

[mellow willow]

dont like lizards at all

[slim spire]

So what else are you getting for your weaver?

[polar spire]

Champ spawns and echo completion runes, glyphs, gold

Most of the fill slots

[slim spire]

No arena?

[analog steppe]

At the start I’m gonna just fill out all the memory amber economy nodes

[polar spire]

I hate arena

Unless im doing a specifically arena tailored build

[analog steppe]

Champions synergize best with the new super arenas

[slim spire]

I think this is correct, but I don't like having to work first before I can play

It feels like cof waiting for rank 12 before you can do prophecies

[analog steppe]

It helps that I’m gonna want a ton of amber for my gear

[polar spire]

Same, but i feel 10-15ish hours of that will be more than enough

[analog steppe]

So I’m getting both progression in the tree and on gear

Because the idol enchants are important to my build

[polar spire]

I should go back and look at weaver tree so i can make a season starter for myself

[mellow willow]

hate that chapter

[slim spire]

So other than that?

[analog steppe]

Idk might change it up a bunch once I get further

[polar spire]

Dam grandpa, is that system shock?

[analog steppe]

Grabbing WW nodes until I get a good code relic, probably the champion stuff afterwards

All the imprint ones seem good to grab

[polar spire]

I like all but the champion sealed one

[analog steppe]

Maybe go to the right cluster to turn off bad reward types

I like the champion imprint because I’m using reforged set items so a good high tier sealed affix will be best in slot for them

Less important if you are using more legendaries

[polar spire]

Go arena build and turn off all but arena keys, imagine an echo web and its nothing but arena's, just arena's overflowing out of your pockets and they're all super arena's

[analog steppe]

I imagine I’ll be respeccing the tree often

[polar spire]

This actually makes a lot more sense

And makes me glad to see that slot now that i realize its there as a bonus for set reforged gear

Man they really cooked

[grand bear]

Oops all arena

[analog steppe]

I will probably take the more exiled mages and exiled spawn champions nodes

As additional ways to get them

[polar spire]

The node that causes a champion to spawn that is angy with exiled mages

Love it

[grand bear]

Retaliate build with fast rare node 😎

[polar spire]

Oblivion wave relic with double orian seal divine flare rings

Afk in arena while spam healing and dropping into threshold and everything dying

Can run vacuum suck numlock autocast rive to pull in far ranged enemies

[vernal frigate]

[polar spire]

I called it Toilet Gladiator

[quasi totem]

Do you think ~700% minion health is enough for forged weapons? I know they tend to be a little fragile on some bosses

[polar spire]

the fact forged weapons have an under 1 min duration, i feel like 300% is enough and you'll just be constantly spawning them throughout the fight

[vernal frigate]

anyone else planning to go shadow beacon Erasing Strike? Seems like everyone is going world splitter. Been following this person for a while now and they say shadow beacon is more accessible + more boss damage but the clear is slower than world splitter (for obvious reasons) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMmkX_BZiG8

[polar spire]

nice i was asking earlier if shadow beacon might see a comeback or not with dorb changes

i dont like vk at all, but i mean they made this unique and no one ever touched the thing

[vernal frigate]

there is this but ES uses the orbiting orbs on autocast

like pure melee ES, no cd

[terse harness]

does ricochet work with catapult node?

nvm it doesnt

[polar spire]

divine fury and siege barrage?

[terse harness]

im just looking alternate way to play hammers at start without touching spiraling coz its boring

prolly going for chain

[slim spire]

They are already buffed so much in 1.2, health-wise, even a few hundred is enough. And you get 200 from passive tree

[flint inlet]

forgemaster's might changes converts haste to block chance...any way to overcome this little problem?

[vale ravine]

problem with bacon is no VC, but it's not the end of the world you just turn HH into a movment skill and add dorb instead of VC probably
wouldnt necessarily say "more boss damage", world splitter gives the crit inbuilt, bacon the flat, it's kind of a wash?

it is def a nice option tho if you can get a 2 LP early, but i feel like it competes with maw for the "weapon you get before splitter" spot rather than with splitter itself

[slim spire]

Sure. Don't take it

[flint inlet]

I can tolerate other downsides but zooming around is a must for a build

[south zephyr]

Optimize for boot move speed

[polar spire]

swiftness gloves exist

[quasi totem]

Maybe I'll swap out some of the minion health on my gear then, maybe add more Attunement or something

[south zephyr]

Also swiftness

[polar spire]

no one really took haste on anything anyways, so not missing out much here

[south zephyr]

Should be able to hit like 60-80% MS I think

[slim spire]

You can get perma haste before?

[south zephyr]

Might do Crab ring honestly unless you've got a free pair of red rings

[polar spire]

my smite teleport on a 4s cd wont need to worry about zoomies

[south zephyr]

Perma-ish

[flint inlet]

I usually play rogue but gonna try sentinel this season hence my concern

[vernal frigate]

yeah thats my plan, HH and dorb. Im able to hit 87% crit without enchanted idols so with a few t3 idols i should be capped

[flint inlet]

I tried to play ES VK last season with worldsplitter but majorly sucked at it.

[vale ravine]

the extra 5% base crit on tree and guaranteed 1 LP slam def opens things up ye

[vernal frigate]

for sure

easy mana on everything

[vale ravine]

how can you suck at "spam one screen clear skill" build 😄

[vernal frigate]

😆

[flint inlet]

my ES din't clear anything:(

[vale ravine]

how 👀

[vernal frigate]

gotta keep vengeance DR up thats the difference 😎 (copium)

[slim spire]

I guess it's more like spam a skill with long cd but nothing die

[flint inlet]

I killed aberoth on bleed hammerdin so it's not like I totally suck

But ES VK just din't click.

[slim spire]

Come on dude you don't suck

Maybe the build's equipment is not endgame enough

[vale ravine]

it happens, we have plenty of good builds now to choose from

and the spam ES def not a starter, needs gear

[slim spire]

Exactly

[polar spire]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A8dawYVA
if anyone wants a build idea, or to look at for something similar to their own, my season starter will be a Volcanus proc build that uses Vengeance, plus its riposte, plus its iron blade and counterattack retribution to proc Volcanus magma shards, holy aura flame burst, and divine bolts. High self healing/leech

[crude matrix]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (20) / Forge Guard (5) / Paladin (58)

General:

▸ Health: 3,034, Regen: 182.32/s
▸ Mana: 270.51, Regen: 10.4/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 66 Att / 6 Vit
▸ Resistances: 112% / 112% / 112% / 82% / 94% / 83% / 84%
▸ EHP: 8,390 / 8,390 / 8,390 / 11,088 / 8,831 / 8,390 / 8,390

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 60%, Threshold: 1,385
▸ Armor Mitigation: 46% (2,767)

Damage Types:

▸ Fire / Spell, Melee

Buffs:

▸ Immolator's Oblation (20/20), Frenzy, Holy Aura (Passive), Symbols of Hope (5/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Smite (20)
• Healing Hands (22)
• Vengeance (24)
• Symbols of Hope (28)
• Holy Aura (20)

Used unique items:

• Volcanus
• Logi's Hunger
• Falcon Fists
• Immolator's Oblation
• Orian's Sun Seal
• Orian's Sun Seal

[slim spire]

Niiice

Magma Shards 0 cd?

[polar spire]

yea

[slim spire]

Wow

[polar spire]

you can clutter your screen to lagout hell with it

divine bolts too

[vernal frigate]

ruh roh

[polar spire]

iron blade can stack and proc multiple holy aura flame bursts on multiple targets at the same time

its just a screen clutter build honestly, go irritate your friends

im running it in a full group on season start

[slim spire]

Huh double sun seal stack?

Why don't you use Phantom Grips tho /s

[polar spire]

i could honestly trade out 1 ring for a phantom grip

[slim spire]

It's just a joke!

[polar spire]

no i mean i contemplated that while building it

[slim spire]

Serious question tho, is double sun seal really the best? You are still limited by cd right, and surely there's some other damage rings that you can use for the build

Wait nvm

[polar spire]

i mean its all stats i use, i could prob trade out for a sunwreath

[slim spire]

Cd is very short now

I thought it's still 18 sec

[junior wren]

your smite is self-cast once for the buff?

[polar spire]

yea i love smite teleport

and for the buff

[slim spire]

You can perma Sigil now, that's pretty cool

Sigil activation I mean

[polar spire]

im prob 1 of few that loves smite as mobility than the other skills

you can easily swap smite out with void cleave if you wanted

[quiet hearth]

Depends on who you talk to, I personally think it is fundamentally broken at the design level and nothing they have done has addressed that core issue.

[quasi totem]

Do you think 8% fire pen is better than 120% elemental dot? The planner doesn't really give you a great way to calculate that. Pen is generally more important if you have a lot of damage from other sources, yea?

[junior wren]

I have to try it out someday

[polar spire]

yup, you should see jaspers searing pride with T7 ele dot on a rive with foe cleaver, becomes 1400% ele dot

[sullen jolt]

hi guys, paladin with hammers or forge guard with this shield attack /forgot the name/ will it be viable fr some of the endgame content?

[wheat light]

god I just want the map grind of poe1, nothing has topped that ever

hoping the woven echo stuff will make LE endgame better

[quiet hearth]

I hated the map grind, but there was just enough stuff there to not really worry about it in the end. I dont like the mono grind either, but the shared monos definitely will help with that. I personally think they should just slow regular progress down a bit and let us share all of them but time will tell with this last change.

[polar spire]

i like that mono's have an alternate path

you can just not ever do lagon if you dont want

[quiet hearth]

I kill him out of spite

[scenic gyro]

you have to on reset to enable blessings

[wheat light]

wait so cant you spread your highest corruption with the new glyph or am I reading it wrong?

[polar spire]

yea but its typically that first go around through normal mono's where i see most people get stuck when their builds arent more fine tuned yet

even though lagon is just, dont sit in shit

i cant wait to watch hardcore sentinels vr into lagon laser

[scenic gyro]

the most annoying thing about him is the phasing/time waste, the mechanics are alright

[wheat light]

thats why Im going pally without vr

[quiet hearth]

Nah, it's more than that, you misread one laser and 90% of people are toast

You either play on eggshels or build so fat you can tank anything, there is no inbetween with that fight

[wheat light]

and eventually 100% block

[polar spire]

give me poe2 thorns and i'll sit in that laser

[quiet hearth]

that'll never happen, they hate that idea, I personally think grim dawn has done thorns the best

[wheat light]

only thing Im torn about is CoF or MG. On one hand, going CoF and seeing how far I can go is very rewarding. On the otherhand, MG for double 1lp red rings etc

[polar spire]

oh thats right grim dawn

[south zephyr]

Damage reflect Sigeons Build Activate

[polar spire]

when i think of arpgs that did thorns well, i always think of d3 crusader, completely forget about grim dawn

[wheat light]

yeah 100%. there's that shield throw poison retal build that slaaaaps

[vital horizon]

Jav: Divine Throws: bleed and ignite -> electrify chance. Does anyone know if this also adds the bleed/ignite damage or just the chance?

[polar spire]

i hear the best way to play this is with a spriggan primalist friend that just spam stacks you with thorn shields

[polar spire]

just the chance

[south zephyr]

Probably but I don't really play MP

[vital horizon]

so building bleed/ignite damage when using this is not useful?

[polar spire]

with how much support for mp this game has, im surprised more people dont

[polar spire]

yurp

[vital horizon]

ty!

[south zephyr]

I have 5 jobs and 14 children, scheduling with other people is a hassle

[silk crystal]

Anyone planning on still using judgement with the changes?

[polar spire]

paladin is stupid strong with javelin now, that new crit multi to lightning damage passive enables hybrid crit/dot super successfully

[vital horizon]

I'm planning on going a lightning dot paladin to start

[polar spire]

i know there was someone earlier that was cooking a self made aura dot

they were using judgement gloves though, which aura dot actually wants a weapon, its slammer that wants unarmed

[vital horizon]

if I had to pick between electrify chance and shock chance, which one is generally better? sorry, i'm new here, just trying to make myself a little build to start with

[wheat light]

electrify

if you're a lightning dot build

[polar spire]

electrify is the dot, shock just lowers resists, has reduced effect vs bosses, and has a max stack count

[vital horizon]

got it, makes sense, thanks

[silk crystal]

Yeah that’s what I was planning as well stack giga mana and get mana when you smite use firestarter torch for the extra more multi to fire at like 1500 mana it’s something like 800% more damage with that one node

[vital horizon]

yeah, I wasn't sure how valuable the negative lightning resistance was in LE

[quiet hearth]

I should try that rainbow elemental dot build again with these changes

[polar spire]

while decent and 1 source of shock is plenty, lightning pen will go harder

elemental dot on stuff like rings, amulet, belt, and then weapon if it supports it, is also strong

you could run a mean lightning spear and seal shock chance on it and be set with that

like that looks good to me

the random crit multi is for paladins Judgement of the Storm passive tree talent

reduced bonus crit damage taken could be replaced with all att, or frailty/slow on hit

or even shock if you dont wanna seal it

[quiet hearth]

we realy need more chance to electrify affixes

[obsidian tide]

well most skills have conversion

smite and javelin at least

[quiet hearth]

So do fire skills

[junior wren]

isn't 800% electrify enough for you?

[quiet hearth]

considering how high the other affixes can go, yes

[junior wren]

"other" ?

I don't play ailment builds much, how high can others go?

[quiet hearth]

ignite, frostbite, poison, ect

[wheat light]

I'm just glad electrify multi strike will be good (maybe great)

[strong plume]

@waxen nymph can you link me whatever void fissure thing you were making I'm curious what you were cooking

[river sierra]

so for most electrify damage do u want: Shock, shred lightning res, lightning pen, shred armor?

[quiet hearth]

Oh yeah, MS is gonna be eating good

[river sierra]

Or do any of those otherlap

[polar spire]

yes on first 3, shred armor doesnt help

[river sierra]

shred doesnt help for dot?

[polar spire]

shred armor is just phys

if i remember right

sec

[junior wren]

you won't see the electrify chance in there. It doesn't show converted from skills.

[silent wind]

yo. anyone has a good sentinel leveling build?

[river sierra]

armor yea so less effective for ele dmg?

but still another multi

[wheat light]

It's hits only

[junior wren]

just based on that picture alone, your electrify has 759%

[river sierra]

ahhhhh

[quiet hearth]

im aware, this doesnt include the HH bonus or Rives bonus from my weapon, this is literally just the base

[river sierra]

okay great tbh i was having a hard time fitting shred

[quiet hearth]

So since Im Rive/Hh, those numbers are essentially doubled

[polar spire]

anything hammer throw related, rive, or javelin holy trail are all newbie sentinel leveling starters

[wheat light]

Rive with ignite/bleed on a 2h absolutely slaps until javelin

[silent wind]

i'm not noob in LE but didn't play a ton. It's my first Sentinel and I will do Electric Javelin smite

[quiet hearth]

it continues to slap, it never stops

[silent wind]

idk if you need to build with anything until you can transition to javelin or just level with something easy and then when reach monoliths respec all for javelin

[polar spire]

so paladin electrify javelin with smite on throw idols and then lightning smites? sure that works

[river sierra]

idols have a cap to how many smites can be triggered iirc

[polar spire]

you can level javelins fine

[polar spire]

i think it was like 10 per 2s or something like that?

[wicked monolith]

Armor doesn't mitigate dot damage so shred armor does nothing for electrify

[wicked monolith]

Unless I'm mistaken, but I don't think I am

[silent wind]

Pinchingloaf build basically

[polar spire]

idk what that is, its a very standard build

[silent wind]

should I trust Maxroll for leveling builds?

[polar spire]

maxroll is fine, lastepochtools is also fine, or you can hit up dr3adful's videos

[turbid dome]

Only way it would is if a mob got armor applies to dots

[silent wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XpPNdPYFsg

[orchid flint]

electrify paladin was already good and now its god tier

[polar spire]

yea so thats just super standard jav/smite setup

[polar spire]

yup

[orchid flint]

i loved the smite electrify build i played that during 1.0

but the keeping mana low was so annoying

[polar spire]

i imagine direct cast smite with HH electrify is strong as well

[hallow knoll]

Yeah I think if I calculated the math right you can get insane dot ticks, build is gonna be cracked

[orchid flint]

yeah thats what i played and the clear and single target was amazing

[polar spire]

lightning smite has been for years, considered to be the strongest smite over void and fire

think that still holds true

[hallow knoll]

should be even better with the buffs

so yeah

[orchid flint]

holy winds is what gave it god tier clear

that build is just even more broken now

[hallow knoll]

smite with healing hands is what I played during 1.0 and it's probably top 5 builds ever in this game for me

[polar spire]

makes sense, i remember 1.0 and before 1.0 peoples tooltip dps for lightning smite being in the millions

[orchid flint]

yeah but with devoution it was annoying to keep your mana low sometimes

[terse harness]

Im going healing hands

[polar spire]

event horizon with melee channeled healing hands feels like it would be strong af, since it super nerfs your attack speed, but melee channeled HH hits 4 times per sec and doesnt scale with as

[hallow knoll]

it could be annoying, you had to spam sigils before a monolith

I think now we have to use judgement to mana dump

[polar spire]

judgement slammers setting up for a full minute before running over and critting bosses for 50mill +

you had to run shield bash because it gave 20% flat crit

[hallow knoll]

I kinda wanna try messing around with divine bolts again

that 60% more multiplier it got sounds pretty insane

[polar spire]

can put in work with a volcanus and add magma shards to that as well

[hallow knoll]

could do channeled HH since you don't need AS

[polar spire]

i feel like thats better with bigger slower weapons

like a lightning HH stormbreaker

[hallow knoll]

I really hate the attack speed nerf from virtue of patience

[junior wren]

so I'm looking at void knight now. Erasing node Time Loop says "consumes mana to cause additional echoes". How does that work?
Normally echo is a chance. So it sounds like you get guaranteed echoes?

[hallow knoll]

wish they would swap the order of it and seraph blade

like why do I need to take -16% attack speed just to play melee

[lunar hazel]

I don't see you complaining about the bigger dmg increase.

[hallow knoll]

more multiplier is obviously good but less attack speed makes the skill feel bad to use unless you have insane amounts of AS on gear

that's pretty obvious to anyone that's played the skill I would think

[lunar hazel]

that's the kind of melee skill they want it to be though

Several hard hitting slower skills are popular so I wouldn't say everyone agrees slower only feels worse.

[sullen jolt]

guys, shiedl bash as main or paladin hammers okk in new league for endgame?

[quiet hearth]

Slow only feels worse when the payoff isn't there, and ES can have a really good payoff

Shield bash not so much as you really want that 1h axe but hammers definitely

speaking of shield bash I gotta run the numbers on that crit potion belt

[hallow knoll]

HH melee really isn't that type of melee skill imo

[lunar hazel]

The node being there instead of reverse order is saying that it is a little bit that kind of melee.

[orchid flint]

its so hard deciding a build. i wanna play void smite but also witchfire warlock looks cool

[spring pollen]

What would you use for mana gain in this setup? I’m curious as to how a channel HH with sun forge hammer and smelters wrath setup could work 🙂

Actually now I think about it, would be hard to maintain FWs with channel HH and not vengeance or MS

[scenic gyro]

why not both

[orchid flint]

what to start with lol

[analog steppe]

Probably start smite, it’s less gear reliant I bet

[scenic gyro]

well vk is gonna be bonkers

[orchid flint]

yeah vk is probably the best mastery in 1.2 lol

[analog steppe]

I’ll probably be starting smite until I get the gear needed for timerot orb

[urban phoenix]

I think i'm just gonna forged weapons right out of the gate with its 30% dmg boost early.

[quiet hearth]

I wonder how much crit multi you need to outscale that -20/-10 on titan grip

[robust lake]

all of it

[obsidian tide]

what I mean is javelin and smite convert ignite from all sources to electrify

(sorry that was one hour ago ><)

[quiet hearth]

I just dont know if I can scale enough to make this cleaver solution worth being hit based, I want that Int for ward retention

[quiet hearth]

right, but other skills do that too AND have affixes, Im just wanting some so I can do some goofy builds

[obsidian tide]

iirc you can add bleed chance and ignite chance as both convert for javelin

[quiet hearth]

I guess I dont really need if I run wall of nothing and just scale end thresh

[obsidian tide]

not sure for smite though

[quiet hearth]

just have enough ward threshold that it never goes down, vs scaling % ward ret

just with the wall of nothing, I think I could hit 1k ward constantly without much issue

[turbid dome]

hp regen + that one relic time?

[robust lake]

vessel of strife 2-3LP farm loginn

[quiet hearth]

I wanna use cleaver solution for more ward retention, I just dont know if the dps would be enough

[stable ice]

hanyone got a void knight leveling build?

[south zephyr]

Enjoy the next 50 years

[robust lake]

u dont wanna go Cleaver for wep dmg lol u go when u scale stats or some other thing

[south zephyr]

Ehhhh actually 1/3000 isn't that bad

[robust lake]

u could I guess

[quiet hearth]

I am aware, I want that int for ward retention, I just dont know if I could hit reasonable dps

[south zephyr]

Get Rive, get double 2H stats nodes, hit things

[quiet hearth]

^

[stable ice]

oook

[quiet hearth]

No for real, they are being 100% serious, it's that braindead easy

[south zephyr]

It's actually surprisingly powerful, take double 2H, Void conversion, spec passive tree leech and get as much health and some movement skill

[stable ice]

ooook

[south zephyr]

Man I wish I could post a howler monkey gif

[stable ice]

i want to follow this warpath endgame build on maxroll can i easily transiition into it ?

[cursive compass]

we are LOGIN IN VOID KNIGHT RIV

[strong plume]

In case you all missed it - I asked Mike to confirm this too:

Future Focus in Volatile Reversal - WILL - restore mana as if you jumped back in time.

[south zephyr]

I'm playing legacy and made a very silly Hammer of Lorent 4 LP twink 2H for leveling

Does 1k a bit at like level 10

[cursive compass]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B5Wm33XA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (30) / Void Knight (67)

General:

▸ Health: 1,866, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 20 Vit
▸ Resistances: 12% / 0% / 0% / 20% / 32% / 20% / 20%
▸ EHP: 1,935 / 1,882 / 1,882 / 1,837 / 2,321 / 1,628 / 1,628

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 373
▸ Armor Mitigation: 19% (715)

Damage Types:

▸ Void / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Rive (20)
• Void Cleave (20)

Used unique items:

• Immortal Vise
• Apathy's Maw

[cursive compass]

defenses looking BIG

[south zephyr]

Immortal vise... Well as long as you're planning on that being the end

[hidden dock]

Need endurance

[cursive compass]

easy to get

[cursive compass]

i guess thats just boss fight gloves

[south zephyr]

That's the last boss of the season gloves

[hidden dock]

And 500% res

[south zephyr]

I mean the build only has the 2 uniques and no other gear slotted

[cursive compass]

res doesnt matter

[south zephyr]

Plenty of build space lol

[cursive compass]

ah yeah its unfinished in gear

but damage taken reduced looks good

[stable ice]

is this looking alright? @south zephyr

this is not rive

[cursive compass]

almost like druid

[stable ice]

but i wanna play warpath anyway later

[cursive compass]

without the 70% DR

0 deaths

baby

[south zephyr]

Druid DR is meme, or at least painfully inconvenient to play

[south zephyr]

Yes but you still start with Rive and probably Lunge until you can get this online at roughly level 35-40

[stable ice]

ooo ok

[south zephyr]

Warpath is very point hungry to get all the buffs up and running

[covert phoenix]

dr?

[south zephyr]

Damage reduction on leaving transform

[covert phoenix]

oh right

[south zephyr]

The main thing is you want to have Devouring Orb autocast AND the +Spell damage and Mana Cost reduction Warpath nodes before you try to make it your main thing

Once those two are working it should be awesome

[stable ice]

okay cool

[robust lake]

just get a Dreamthorn from first nemesis at like level 12 and spin straight into level 50s xdd

[south zephyr]

Also if it tells you to waste points converting warpath to void you should probably ignore that since it's just there to scale your spell damage, base crit and defenses.

You can take the 'echo' node though

Just I don't think you need anything after that

Oh, unless it's trying to scale time rot

[rocky tendon]

I swear low level nemesis uniques are weighted to stuff you don’t want, so trolly

[south zephyr]

In which case do take the void conversion

[stable ice]

does the void knight passive tree look different after the patch?

[south zephyr]

Yeah there's some changes that are missing from this

[stable ice]

yea this is outdated

[robust lake]

find zeh difference ._,

[stable ice]

maybe i should jsut level as paladin and follow the maxroll leveling guide?

and then at lvl 70 switch to void knight?

[orchid flint]

you can level as void knight

[robust lake]

probably wont notice the difference unless ure really into minmaxin

[stable ice]

mhhhhhh

or i just use this

from the endgame guide

[orchid flint]

just play hammers until like lvl 40 and swap to smite devouring orb vk

[stable ice]

for endgame i wanna play warpath

[orchid flint]

you can probably just lvl with warpath. the smite devouring orb is good to farm gear for whatever you're going to play late game

for me im going to use the smite devouring orb to farm world splitter than swap to es

[wise rune]

Levelling with warpath works perfectly fine

[stable ice]

okay

[orchid flint]

warpath probably will be the best all arounder tbh

[knotty wadi]

Any guesses on whether the auto shield throw effect on Sigeon’s will override the cooldown from the Siege Breaker node?

[stable ice]

what do u think of this

starting

[south zephyr]

It does 😈

Sig Vengeance Phalanx

I will be testing this day 1

[winter copper]

Is this ice veins

[knotty wadi]

That’s badass if true. Definitely looking forward to trying this out

[orchid flint]

yeah lol can tell by the formatting xD

[bitter lintel]

Honestly I saw that guide and suggestion but after practice run to like lvl 50 last couple nights it was easy as shit to level and just use warpath/estrike/cleave. Sucks to HAVE to use 2hand axe for those but feels great if you have a decent find early

[stable ice]

okay

[ripe cargo]

atrocious

[stable ice]

u mean either of warpath estrike cleave

or all?

[ripe cargo]

like activley bad

go for fire trail

[stable ice]

okay

[ripe cargo]

than amna cost than move speed and ignite chance as you see fit

that's how you level warpath

[south zephyr]

My only point is that very early, like pre 20-25 Warpath OOMs you really fast

[ripe cargo]

yeah

[stable ice]

ahhhhhhhh

[ripe cargo]

you just use two skills at that point

[robust lake]

just take the -mana nodes off the bat, should be relatively easy to sustain before u start triggering smites or some other stuff

[south zephyr]

Yeah previously suggested running rive until WP and dOrb got properly specced

[wise rune]

If you get a palarus drop early then smite warpath is an incredible levelling option

[south zephyr]

With cost reduction yes it's incredible up to like 350c

[wise rune]

Or if you're playing legacy and just have one in your stash

[stable ice]

and following this paladin guide on maxroll until like lvl 70 would be a bad idea cause of the gold cost for respecc?

[marble topaz]

I was told the respec cost is relatively affordable. 50k at 60, 100k at 70, plus passive reallocation. Might need to run a few gold monoliths but if you save while leveling you should be fine

[wise rune]

Playing a different build for leveling is fine

[marble topaz]

Mcfluffin personally told me he was leveling as paladin and respeccing to vk

[stable ice]

who is mcfluffin

[south zephyr]

Paladin is super nice for built in resists

[marble topaz]

Streamer and guide writer

[stable ice]

when do u stop leveling? i know u can level up to 100

[ripe cargo]

it does no damage than is the problem

[stable ice]

but when do u swap

[ripe cargo]

warpath doesn't do veryt good damage in reality

[south zephyr]

70 is a reasonable breakpoint

[marble topaz]

Around 70 is when I’ll swap to vk

[south zephyr]

Yeah it's mostly an enabler

But oh boy is it great at enabling

[ripe cargo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXwDdZ6B heres how i usually level vk's

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (23)

General:

▸ Health: 1,276, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 102.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 1 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 32% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 32% / 2% / 2%
▸ EHP: 938 / 767 / 767 / 767 / 938 / 776 / 776

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 255

Damage Types:

▸ Physical, Fire, Void / Melee

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Warpath (20)
• Rive (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Lunge (20)

Used unique items:

None

[candid lintel]

Does anyone have a lightning Java loot filter or will I have to make my own

[ripe cargo]

sorry for the curse

[south zephyr]

+50 flat spell damage and/or 20% block chance is just nice

[ripe cargo]

but forbidden knowledgte should be known

[stable ice]

okay i will do this then, the thing is, i dont want to make my own loot filter, theres a loot filter for the paladin leveling guide that end around lvl 70, but by that point i should have found nice stuff for the void knight warpath build, but those drops probably were hidden cause i was using the leveling filter from paladin, or no?

[south zephyr]

Might try running a wand+Bulwark for an easy 95% block chance VK

[ripe cargo]

its very funny to me that you can get like

almost through the entire game as vk

without specing void damage

[quiet hearth]

how about VC where you scale fire damage WITH void damage XD

[mellow willow]

how do i migrate AF or CF character to regular?

i wonder if after inevitable death in HC race i can just go to merchant guild softcore

but i dont see an option to migrate

[clever hazel]

that screenshot seems to indicate you're not on a CF or AF character

[robust lake]

ehh, it kinda falls off at level 20+ but until then you can probably get a solid 2H or some scepter with flat

[ripe cargo]

incredibly funny shame theres no support for the build.

[robust lake]

eh can u even migrate, i forgor how that stuff works lmao

[mellow willow]

is it temporarily disabled, or never worked or sth?

[stable ice]

any of u prefer to play on controller?

[clever hazel]

warpath can do good damage directly, you kinda need to take the node that ramps its mana cost up though and use rive or something to generate mana every so often

[quiet hearth]

ignite vk incoming

[stable ice]

did u take a look at the warpath maxroll guide?

[clever hazel]

have you tried logging in to that character and then checking the settings menu challenges?

[orchid flint]

yes i play on the controller

[clever hazel]

no? I almost never read maxroll guides

[ripe cargo]

i figuredd it out it's for eclipse

[stable ice]

on pc?

[ripe cargo]

its specifically eclipse

[orchid flint]

yes

[ripe cargo]

you go erasing strike void cleave dot

and erasing strike can finally go dot

[stable ice]

okay ima check it out for warpath seems nice controller

[ripe cargo]

so its a real build now

[orchid flint]

there are a lot of builds good on controller. smite is another one

[lilac sparrow]

since elemental damage is converted to void damage

[stable ice]

ah ok just curious what ud thinkabout the warpath build guide on maxroll

[quiet hearth]

right but we have new toys and passives now so Im wondering how it will feel

[lilac sparrow]

its pretty much safe to take the node that reduces elemental res

[sullen jolt]

guys, shield bash on FG or hammers / javellin on Paladin will be endgame viable and noob friendly?

[mellow willow]

ye lol, u need to be logged into cahracter

[south zephyr]

Still want to cap those though

[lilac sparrow]

id rather get hp

[robust lake]

yes 😌

[lilac sparrow]

there's also the new hybrid affix

hp + regen

[robust lake]

and its insaaaane

[clever hazel]

I generally consider their endgame guides a decent point of reference, but completely insane to use as your only source of info; they make mistakes all the time and have plenty of bias that makes them overlook stuff, same as any other build guide creators

[sullen jolt]

so which one would be more noob friendly?

[south zephyr]

Javadin

By a mile

point click delete

Holy trail

[clever hazel]

you should only really trust a build guide implicitly when it's written by somebody that plays that one specific build a LOT tbh

[robust lake]

paladin is generally more noob friendly I'd say 🤔 shield bash needs lotsa crit to start dealing dmg, with pally u just cruise

[winter copper]

Its good can be imroved with some qol loss

[sullen jolt]

will I be able to do some endgame??

[stable ice]

u looked at it? wym qol loss

[polar spire]

If you play javelin -20 mana on next melee + ranged forge strike, you can tack on HH to proc on the ranged forgestrikes to keep minions alive

[clever hazel]

like cookbook with scorpion beastmaster as an example

[polar spire]

Jav, fs, jav, fs

[south zephyr]

Yep should be fine for endgame

[winter copper]

U can make it work with maxed out warriors fury but it will not be afk hold one button do one echo build

[south zephyr]

Not sure about high pinnacle content

[lilac sparrow]

corruption 1k build

[polar spire]

Leaves FS at a 15 mana cost, but if you're building attune anyways, as you should be, the 8 mana regen mitigates it a bit

[robust lake]

uber abbyy gonna be a softcore boss for a while hopefully xdd

[stable ice]

yea for sure its not gonna be a fluent i guess

[winter copper]

Dps and tank> qol

[robust lake]

who am I kidding doe lol

[stable ice]

but maybe the damage is even without it crazy high

[lilac sparrow]

anyone excited for tomorrow?

[stable ice]

tomorrow is wednesday so no

[sullen jolt]

and VK? spin to win?

[lilac sparrow]

why hate wednesday

[stable ice]

because its not thursday

[lilac sparrow]

today is wednesday tho

😦

[south zephyr]

Couple ways to build that, caster with dOrb/Smite should be great I think

[lilac sparrow]

tomorrow is thursday

[south zephyr]

Not top tier but I imagine it should be pinnacle viable

[stable ice]

nope

[south zephyr]

Tons of sustain and tank options

[stable ice]

today is dienstag

[uneven gorge]

I hate thursdays

[lilac sparrow]

what is dienstag

[sullen jolt]

ok, my safest bet would be the Java Pally I guess?

and Totems? i love totems.

[quiet hearth]

Jav pally, Hammerdin, VK echo Rive, all good starters

[lilac sparrow]

wait

[south zephyr]

Yep and if you want to swap later you can since mastery respec now exists

[sullen jolt]

and Totems?

[lilac sparrow]

does rive have void damage?

[stable ice]

i just have one questino

[south zephyr]

IDK ask the primalist?

[south zephyr]

Full conversion baby

[quiet hearth]

Totems arne't bad but not as easy as the things I mentioned imo

[stable ice]

anyone able to look at a loot filter and tell me if ill be able to find weapon/gear for the warpath void knight endgame build?

[lilac sparrow]

oh it does now?

neat

[sullen jolt]

I loved nova hameer back in the day ; and spiraling too. Javelin looks good as good defences.

[upbeat relic]

I remember playing a really fun smite hammerdin during 1.0. Did that get nuked with patch?

[robust lake]

we lost some damage from VR rework thats about it, still super good

[south zephyr]

I'm testing out Jav/shield throw hybrid starting week I'll probably post how it goes

[sullen jolt]

I dod hammers with smite idols

[south zephyr]

Sigeons reprisal+ Phalanx on FG

[south zephyr]

Nope should still be great

[upbeat relic]

Yeah that’s what it was. Need to find the old guide.

[south zephyr]

Just old news and we're on the new hotness

[lilac sparrow]

you mean storm totem build with its bug

[sullen jolt]

nope. just pure totems

[lilac sparrow]

other totems are subpar

[south zephyr]

Thorn Totem spriggans are all right

[lilac sparrow]

only storm totem deals real dmg

[gloomy jasper]

Multistrike smite, w/ HH, divine bolt, and holy aura for fire burst, too jank or just crazy enough to work?

[south zephyr]

Not great, but okay

[south zephyr]

Should be great

HH doubles as traversal

[lilac sparrow]

tbh i use this build only to level up

[waxen tendon]

Latter half sounds jank. Multistrike smite is my own starter

[lilac sparrow]

till i transition

[quiet hearth]

Im also wondering how flame whip feels with the dmg eff changes to it

[south zephyr]

Multi, Smite, Holy Aura, HH, Symbols

[lilac sparrow]

with the unique amulet

[polar spire]

Should go great, shield throw has a crapton of solid utility + ricochet heal

[lilac sparrow]

its really good

[gloomy jasper]

That was the plan

[waxen tendon]

Yeah same

[ripe cargo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/QJYmqGwA

[crude matrix]

Void Knight, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

Sentinel (26) / Void Knight (67) / Paladin (15)

General:

▸ Health: 1,979, Regen: 28/s
▸ Mana: 112.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 19 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 6 Att / 28 Vit
▸ Resistances: 87% / 15% / 15% / 0% / 72% / 28% / 28%
▸ EHP: 3,070 / 2,550 / 2,550 / 1,617 / 3,366 / 1,887 / 1,887

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 40%, Threshold: 605
▸ Armor Mitigation: 6% (139)

Damage Types:

▸ Void, Fire, Physical / Spell, Melee, DoT

Buffs:

▸ Symbols of Hope (1/5,Passive)

Used skills:

• Abyssal Echoes (20)
• Void Cleave (20)
• Lunge (20)
• Symbols of Hope (20)
• Anomaly (20)

Used unique items:

• Eternal Eclipse

[ripe cargo]

the fact that this isn't activley bad

hurts my soul

this should be terrible

[polar spire]

Like straight up if you're high dex, a xithara's amulet + shield throw heal should be more than enough to keep you topped up

Sierpin's + xithara

[quiet hearth]

Just stack void dmg for your other skills and the ignites from VC have enough pen they are gonna hurt

Honestly that really works for an abberath sceptre build

[ripe cargo]

yeah thats essentially whats going on

[bitter lintel]

In coop is loot shared or individual?

[polar spire]

Individual, so set those loot filters to keep in mind of friends builds

You can trade freely in co-op

Long as you're with each other

Then the longer you play with one another you get special tokens that allow you to send that friend gear if you dont play with one another

[south zephyr]

Forgot that existed tbh and no sierpin for me sadly

[polar spire]

So the leveling journey will get you tokens, and then by mid-late endgame as people start splitting off, you'll hae tokens to give each other loot

[south zephyr]

HH plus vengeance should make that workable though

[polar spire]

Why no sierpin?

Unless you're playing lightning

[ripe cargo]

i hate that you can get almost enough cooldown for eclipse off base items alone

that's so stupid

[polar spire]

But even then that together with divine fury is more forking

[sand wolf]

is there any reason to go -not paladin- for javelin?

[viscid garnet]

Alright chat what FG builds have been cooked up so far

[ocean bobcat]

is there any manifested armor build?

[viscid garnet]

Anything not Forged Weapons based?

[south zephyr]

Phalanx FG

It's a meme but it's my meme

Gonna go max siege barrage to rain down 6 Javs every time something touches me

[river sierra]

Does the increased smite damage idol affix apply to dots (electrify) applied by smite similar to how the sacrifice node does?

[polar spire]

Non-lightning stuff sure, theres also the bottom nodes in the tree that give more damage to something like forge strike and -20 mana cost on next melee, you can weave javelins inbetween forge strike uses

If you play minion forge guard, you'll typically stack attune, which banner jav goes well with

Jav banners dash to banner is a mobility skill that doesnt share cooldown with other travel skills, allowing you to run 2 mobility skills

A spell based VK can run jav banner smites

[radiant vortex]

banner throw jump lunge goes fast af

shame you either need a target or the helm

[ocean bobcat]

is Manifest Armor minion build viable for high corruption?

[polar spire]

If manifest armor is the sole choice and not forged weapons, yes, play paladin and run manifest as a spell build that spams forgebreath

Wrouk always takes the #1 sentinel leaderboard spot with that

[ocean bobcat]

does he have any build?

[polar spire]

I believe hes making a new one tailor made for 1.2

[ocean bobcat]

I hope so xd

[polar spire]

I remember him saying he'd drop a video in #🎥┃video-shoutout when its ready

So check in there if he has or not

[arctic tartan]

He even wants to make a video on it. It'll be released "soon"

[ocean bobcat]

whats his youtube name?

Wrouk?

[polar spire]

No idea

[arctic tartan]

I poked him about it earlier today

Me neither, he said he hasn't done videos before

[ocean bobcat]

ohh

okey

[short viper]

making videos takes a ton of effort, i don't blame him

[polar spire]

But manifest armor itself can shotgun forgebreath half your screen with 100% crit chance and hits between 300-800k crits

[arctic tartan]

@fair hollow Gib video! (Or channel to subscribe to)

[forest narwhal]

Is maxroll warpath build a good starter?

[ocean bobcat]

will return tomorrow and see if there is 1 xd

[short viper]

link it

[stable ice]

how much gold do u have around level 70?

[forest narwhal]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/echo-warpath-void-knight-guide

[short viper]

normally i would just say no but i'm giving maxroll another chance lol

[polar spire]

If not buying stash tabs, typically 500k-1mill

[radiant vortex]

15 bullion

[polar spire]

If buying stash tabs, closer to 300k-500k

[radiant vortex]

what else you doing with that gold than just buying stash tabs

[stable ice]

so respeccing for 100k gold at 70 is no problem at all right

[polar spire]

Speaking of, do stash tabs still cap at 100k or naa?

[radiant vortex]

don't recall at all

[polar spire]

Golem dungeon vault gold sink

[radiant vortex]

before you got least 15 tabs? <_<

[polar spire]

Oh yea totally, lvl 100 full respec is like 250k, chump change

[sacred eagle]

Hey there ! new player here with a question regarding warpath and channelcost. I dont get the channel cost itself. it says 18 but if i hold down the button i loose those 18 in about idk 3 seconds. how is this calculated exactly ? because it just says channel cost and nothing else. there is also nothing regarding channel or channel cost in the ingame gameguide

[radiant vortex]

you ain't got enough gold to even really gamba before that

[short viper]

I think it depends on your other experience with the game, if you are a first timer it's probably a fine struggle but like, someone who's played another class will prob not have fun leaguestarting warpath

[stable ice]

really?

[polar spire]

With some of those new weaver tree gold drops i wouldnt be so sure anymore

Its looking like SO MUCH GOLD

pockets overfilling

[stable ice]

u dont recommend to go warpath build at around lvl 70?

[radiant vortex]

I mean you can afford to buy like ~15 tabs before you have enough gold to really gamba

that stuff just means you get there quicker

And at that point the cost of tabs is trivial

oh neat keyring means no need for keytab anymore

[viscid garnet]

Channeling warpath does not stop ur passive mana regen

Which is 8mana/sec base

[short viper]

I spent 8 years playing cyclone in POE so i tried my ass off to make warpath feel decent but it's basically just not designed to do enough damage to compete with the other skills. that's not to say you can't make it work , but the same investment will get you further doing something else is all

[marble topaz]

I think channel cost is per second? Could be wrong.

[lilac sparrow]

what?

[polar spire]

I feel like spellbased warpath or procpath works better here

[forest narwhal]

But aren't they changing warpath? like the void scaling and stuff

[polar spire]

Though dual sword/sceptre crit/ignite warpath has been decent for the last 5 years

[lilac sparrow]

warpath looks really good for proc ailment

[radiant vortex]

it's been nearly that 8 years since pure attack cyclone was any actual good in poe either

[stable ice]

that statement is surprising because maxroll writers put warpath void knight at S tier in both endgame&corruption and also on the speed clear list at S tier

[radiant vortex]

90% of use cases are proc generator

[short viper]

settlers introduced the mace enchant that made hit cyclone good again

[radiant vortex]

settlers has been going on for a year I have on purpose forgot everything about it

out of pure spite my brain rewrote those neurons

[polar spire]

Your first mistake is following tierlists

Or build crafters saying S tier

Lmao

[arctic tartan]

😢 it'll be rough returning after such a long time

[covert phoenix]

I mean

I tried to open 20 maxrolls builds

every. single. one. of. them. had. "AMAZING DPS" in pros.

[shadow cove]

We should not listen to the people that have been playing the content since like january

[radiant vortex]

also relatively speaking I don't think some x dmg multi on cyclone had anything on Infinite LS

[stable ice]

lol

[radiant vortex]

the general powerspike from settlers was so huge cyclone was relatively shit even with that mod

[stable ice]

yea right 😂

[radiant vortex]

they are optimized for search results

[short viper]

perhaps maxroll has improved but at the moment i trust it about as far as i can throw the servers its hosted on

[polar spire]

God i still remember when icy veins starting making last epoch builds, and they were so incredibly brain dead god awful builds, i was like "stay in your lane icy veins, stick to wow"

[radiant vortex]

I trust no build guides, if my own trashfire screw around wont work then the skill clearly just needs buffs

that or I just steal a concept from Ama here <_<

[polar spire]

I think the best part of guides it to instead use another players idea for a playstyle as a template and then building off of it the way you want it to work

[covert phoenix]

The worst part is even if you pretend "of course, duh, if they hadn't amazing dps, they wouldn't feature it", it's missing the point. "AMAZING DPS" 4M dps build is not the same as "AMAZING DPS" 60M build

[radiant vortex]

As I said yeah lmao

[polar spire]

Thats why over the years ive theorycrafted mega jank builds and posted them here, it was mainly for others to template off of, or see combo's for their own builds they may have missed

[shadow cove]

I mean if they both clear the hardest stuff, is it wrong?

[radiant vortex]

higher number activate monkey brain better

[shadow cove]

I need to one shot mobs BETTER

[polar spire]

What about bee rogue lots of little numbers?

[shadow cove]

Stacking up that target dummy number

[radiant vortex]

if build good why number not bigger

[polar spire]

Necromancer is all about having lots of minions, but bee rogue can have 10x as many minions

[radiant vortex]

there is a critical mass where sheer quanitity of numbers trumps over the size of one

zoo on necro sucks tho

all its buffs are too individual

[polar spire]

Bee rogue can run poison/bleed, frostbite/bleed, ignite/bleed, and go over the max on each in seconds

Its what, stacks up to 200 you can see?

Bee rogue will hit that visual cap in seconds

[robust lake]

my pallys at 500k dps and I delete 900c bosses xdd

[shadow cove]

But why not 100m dps!

[robust lake]

bleeds are hard to scale man xdd

[polar spire]

If you play crit bee's and tack on armor shred, you'll watch a boss slowly trickle to 70% and then instantly drop dead

[shadow cove]

Theyre allergic to bees, leave them alone

[radiant vortex]

god so glad they're takin off boss ward from so many of em

[robust lake]

do they

[polar spire]

Armor shred is something forged weapons builds really need to consider

[radiant vortex]

esp cos that stuff did not decay as it was stated

[covert phoenix]

My point is using some hyperboles instead of actual range of damage is stupid and can't really help the reader

"average mobility" on a build with no traversal and 40% ms always crack me up

[polar spire]

That one armor shred minion mace is actually stupid powerful on bee's and forged weapons, but no one ever runs it

[radiant vortex]

40% ms huge

Me over here considering doing a warpath forgeguard

[quiet hearth]

the issue with shred is how quickly you can hit the cap, you need so little of it

[radiant vortex]

lil bit of -20% less ms, less dmg

[robust lake]

they are kinda right doe, in LE it matters little whether its big or smol cuz 99% of guide followers won't hit that spot where they need that dps

[polar spire]

Isnt normal non-elemental armor shred unlimited?

[short viper]

you're thinking of resist shred, armour shred stacks really high

[quiet hearth]

The effective cap, those diminishing returns kick in really fast

[polar spire]

Armor shred is insane on crit minions

[short viper]

technically unlimited but you don't need more than 110-120 stacks iirc

[covert phoenix]

it does softcap extremely hard

[quiet hearth]

yeah I know there is a sweet spot and its surprisingly easy to hit, especially for FW

[sudden cradle]

What sets are you paladins planning to experiment with?

[covert phoenix]

100 stacks is 77% more physical, 400 is 84% more damage

[radiant vortex]

remember the good ol days of resist shred..

[covert phoenix]

10000 stacks would be 85%

[robust lake]

no sets for me until I reroll VK I guess

[quiet hearth]

Ruby Fang set is always the answer

[robust lake]

that worked both ways, having -100 poison res felt... not good

[polar spire]

But when bee rogues can summon out anywhere between 50-100 bee's, lots of flat minion damage and armor shred goes so hard

[south zephyr]

Ahhh was gonna say nothing, but ruby fang might be funny

[radiant vortex]

stop talking about that build

[polar spire]

Forge guard can run bee's too

Or volatile zombs

[quiet hearth]

I will never stop talking about it

[polar spire]

😄

[robust lake]

bees and squirrels and hammers

yass

[polar spire]

Ruby fang actually goes hard

[quiet hearth]

it shouldnt, my gods it shouldnt